Spirit Realm Shenanigans w/ Seth Kicklighter

Summary

Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad – “Spirit Realm Shenanigans w/ Seth Kicklighter”

Date: March 28, 2026
Hosts: David Lee Corbo (“the Raven”) & Top Lobsta
Guest: Seth Kicklighter (Author of Spirit Realm Shenanigans)

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Episode Overview

This episode features Seth Kicklighter, author of Spirit Realm Shenanigans, for a deep, comedic, and provocative exploration into the fabrications of the spirit realm and the mechanisms of spiritual deception. Through a biblical lens, the hosts and guest break down how non-physical entities create intensely detailed simulated experiences—out-of-body adventures, past life memories, spirit releasement therapy, and more—all serving a grand supernatural con, and why Christians and spiritual seekers alike should reconsider the sources of their mystical experiences.

The trio blends personal testimony, biblical exegesis, lore from famous occult books, and plenty of humor to interrogate the limits of the supernatural. Key themes include: the simulation-like abilities of spirits, the mechanics of consent in spiritual experiences, parallels to biblical accounts of deception, and the impending “Great Deception” in eschatological prophecy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Seth’s Book & Online Presence

• Seth’s book, Spirit Realm Shenanigans: An Unhinged Rant Exposing the Psychic Fabrications of Discarnate Dweebs and Nephilim Nitwits, is available on Amazon and direct through his Payhip (with “schizo autograph”). [03:47]
  • Seth recently lost his original Twitter/X account to hackers and can now be found at @SethLehem_ (underscore).
  • “It’s the account that says ‘my account was hacked, this is my work, I’m pissed,’ with three angry emojis, man. That’s me.” – Seth [05:50]
• Seth points out he wrote the book for New Agers, Gnostics, and Christians who want to “reverse engineer spiritual deception.” [44:24, 125:15]

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2. Primary Theories from “Spirit Realm Shenanigans”

• Theory 1: Vision Control & Simulation
  • Demonic (or “discarnate”/new age) entities possess the ability to fabricate visionary realms—so real, detailed, and immersive that the experiencer cannot tell the difference between these spirit-crafted simulations and physical reality. [06:17, 07:12]
  • This applies to out-of-body experiences, past life regressions, children’s past life “memories,” and remote viewing.
  • “Remote viewing is lower CPU usage…much less immersive than astral travel. If they can do this for astral travel…they can easily do this for all the data funneled in RV data.” – Seth [07:10]
• Theory 2: Spirit Releasement Therapy (SRT) and False Healing
  • SRT (popular in the 90s/2000s) involves “delivering” or “healing” through visions, but Seth claims these are staged: demons masquerade as ghosts, aliens, soul fragments, etc., to ensnare and program the individual. The “healing” is a short-term placebo; you get temporary relief only because you accept their story, moving further from biblical truth. [09:55–14:26, 17:11]
  • Seth critiques practitioners like Dan Duvall for integrating these methods into Christian deliverance, often unwittingly embedding demonic deception. [11:41–13:05]

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3. Out-of-Body Experiences & Spirit Simulation

• Key Excerpts from Occult Literature:
  • Robert Monroe: Reports being placed in “simulations” by his “guides” that are undetectable from reality, repeatedly programmed for desired behaviors or emotional outcomes. [22:50, 25:53]
    • “Yet once in the simulation, it became absolutely and totally real, and I lived it. If I did not come up with the desired action, the simulation would be repeated until I did…” – Monroe (read by Seth) [25:01]
  • Kurt Leland: Describes being instantly transported into hyper-immersive, dream-like alternate worlds (e.g., turning into a blade of grass, a bee, or being trapped in a crayon-drawn cartoon) by guides for lessons. The line between dream and simulation is erased. [30:31–35:15, 81:52–83:58]
    • “All you had to do was realize the utter impossibility of everything around you you were perceiving and tell yourself you must be dreaming. That’s how you escape.” (Leland’s “guide”) [40:30]
• Total Visionary Control:
  • These entities can create entire cosmologies tailored to the seeker’s beliefs—New Age, pre-Adamic memories, aliens, ascended masters, whatever lures you in and distances you from the truth. [13:44, 14:03]
  • “They selectively feed…this phenomenon will present itself as whatever you’re most willing to accept at any given moment.” – David [13:44]
  • “Anything to get you into channeling…as long as you’re doing that, they don’t care what you believe as long as it’s not fully the Bible.” – Seth [14:03]

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4. Dreams, Consent, and Psychological Manipulation

• Consent Mechanisms:
  • repeated dream or out-of-body-state “petitions” for consent or participation (even during sleep), especially with intrusive encounters (e.g., recurring sexual dreams, visions of fake loved ones, “incubus” events) [27:07]
    • “A lot of it’s consent harvesting attempts…if you respond to it and you don’t say, ‘I rebuke you in the name of the Lord,’ then maybe your full personality might need some rework.” – Seth [27:09]
  • Holy Spirit and prayer offers a layer of protection, especially when not engaging in direct divination; those who seek contact invite greater deception. [58:36]
    • “If you’re doing divination and choosing it and you’re deceived, you’re on your own. That’s the difference.” – Seth [58:36]
• False Autonomy & Guidance:
  • Simulated spirit landscapes always include a “guide”—may appear as anything (animal, person, color, etc.), but control your lucidity, perception, and experience. [86:52–88:32]

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5. Memory Implants, Rote Downloads & The Akashic Records

• Downloads (“Rotes”):
  • Spirits can instantly transfer knowledge or complete, immersive memories—often fabricating entire past lives, trauma, or emotional experiences that feel genuinely lived. [45:11–45:54]
  • “Not only just downloads of information, but it can also be an instant transfer to a simulation.” – Seth [45:52]
• Akashic Records:
  • Supposed “universal memory banks” accessed during these events can fill in blanks, alter perceptions, or simulate your entire life down to minute details. Seth argues this is a product of the demonic hive mind and data-collection, not literal access to true histories. [65:29–66:56]
    • “The entire history of humankind and Earth is available to them in the most minute detail…Akashic records, which is a bunch of, you know, we’ll get into…” – Seth [65:29]

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6. Simulation Theory & Modern Parallels

• Video games, VR, and AI are cited as both a reflection and a precursor to spiritual deception; our drive towards immersive “realities” is spiritually mirrored in these astral operations. [52:25–53:20]
  • “Once you get that mark of the beast, you’re going to get all these downloads of past life memories, I bet, yeah.” – Seth [53:06]

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7. Biblical Parallel: Direct Scriptural Support

• Micaiah’s Vision (1 Kings 22 / 2 Chronicles 18):
  • Seth uses this OT story as the best biblical evidence for his theory: God’s heavenly council discusses how to deal with Ahab; a spirit volunteers to be “a lying spirit in the mouths of all his [Ahab’s] prophets,” leading to mass visionary deception among pagan seers.
  • “If an angel can come down and get 400 prophets to say the same exact thing and have the same vision, remote viewing-style, what does that mean about spiritual influences on psychic information? In the Bible, they tell you that it’s possible…” – Seth [132:28]
• Emphasizes that God allows deception as a matter of the heart and consent, but also always presents a remnant of truth—a free will choice.

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8. Near-Death Experiences, Implants, & Shamanic Dismemberment

• Many NDEs, “alien abductions,” or shamanic ritual experiences are the same: elaborate, fabricated astral realms and false memory implantation, often tailored to beliefs and expectations (evidence drawn from books, testimonies, and his own trials). [114:14–125:14]
  • “What do you think about those NDEs where it’s all love and light…no sense of Jesus? …That’s a conclusion—disinformation right there.” – Seth [117:42]
• Initiatory Trauma:
  • Traditional shamanic “dismemberment” and “rebirth” are recast as demonic initiations granting “psychic powers” through possession and soul fragmentation mechanics.

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9. Modern Eschatology (“The Great Deception”)

• Seth, David, and Top Lobsta speculate on an imminent, orchestrated alien deception: “bad cop” aliens (grays, reptilians) attack or take blame for events, while “good cop” aliens (Nordics/Pleiadians—likely to present as Jesus/ascended master) arrive as saviors. This is the grand “end times delusion” (referencing 2 Thessalonians 2).
  • “The great deception is not far away at all.” – Seth [135:27]
  • “They’re gonna say the Gnostics are here to give us the truth…it’s creating your heroes and villains.” – Seth [120:16]
• Tied into Messiah 2030 and biblical prophecy timelines (Gog-Magog war), with alien “disclosure” being used to explain supernatural acts attributed to God in the Middle East. [137:06–144:08]
  • “…aliens will take the blame for God’s supernatural hand in saving Israel and they’ll secularize the event that way so God’s interpretation is out…” – Seth [143:56]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Simulation Ability:
  • “It was based on their ability to create and place into a human consciousness—mine—an earth type situation so real and so overwhelming that I could not tell reality from illusion...” – Robert Monroe excerpt [25:01], read by Seth
• On Consent:
  • “If you’re doing divination and choosing it and you’re deceived, you’re on your own. That’s the difference.” – Seth [58:36]
• On SRT/Deliverance Deception:
  • “Demons masking as ghosts, there’ll be aliens because there’s so many out there…they will also be soul fragments, parts of yourself that you need to reintegrate…” – Seth [10:21]
• On Angelic vs. Demonic Guidance:
  • “If you’re not filled with the Holy Spirit, if it’s not Jesus, it’s going to be something else steering you.” – David [58:03]
• On Current Alien/Disclosure Psyop:
  • “I think bad aliens, bad cop are going to show up and take credit for God’s supernatural hand, claim ownership of the Jews—oh, the Jews are our proxies…” – Seth [145:04]
• On Simulation Irony:
  • “You can’t even go to the astral to escape propaganda…” – David [55:02]
• On Writing the Book:
  • “I spent like 60 hours a week on it for eight months, straight, with almost no breaks…” – Seth [89:59]
• Comedy & Tone:
  • (Describing simulated abuse in the astral) “Thousands of hands reaching out to touch me…all of these I am, we are and emotion…from the bittersweet smell of success to the pain of parting…Does that help you?” – Seth reading Monroe [93:23]
  • “They literally gave him this…it’s just creepy, man. Like, they have nothing, thousands of hands. They’re showing him a vision of like all his little, like, their, his Borg is all collected together in a little, like, wormy barrel…” – Seth [93:27]

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Timestamps of Major Sections

• [03:47] Seth explains where to find his book and new social accounts
• [06:17] Seth's two main theories: simulation ability and spirit releasement
• [13:44] Custom tailoring of spiritual visions by entities – deception model
• [22:50] Direct readings from Robert Monroe/Simulated realities
• [30:31–41:27] Leland’s “astral escape room” / complete simulated dreamworlds
• [65:29–66:56] On memory access, Akashic records, & data collection
• [86:52–88:32] Focus 27 – personal astral “heavens” always include a guide
• [114:14–125:14] NDE/abduction/shamanic dismemberment as deceptive astral operations
• [127:13–132:20] 1 Kings 22/2 Chr 18—biblical support for spiritual vision control
• [137:06–144:08] Eschatology, Messiah 2030, alien deception, Trump/White Hats
• [149:07] Closing remarks, book promo, future topics

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Further Reading / References (as discussed):

• Spirit Realm Shenanigans by Seth Kicklighter (Amazon, Payhip, free audiobook – YouTube “Spirit Realm Shenanigans Audiobook!”)
• Robert Monroe, Kurt Leland, Emmanuel Swedenborg, Robert Bruce, William Buhlman – key sources on OBE/astral lore
• Brian Nichols – Hydroplate Theory (Young Earth Creationism)
• Messiah 2030 video series [Parts 1–3]
• 1 Kings 22 / 2 Chronicles 18 – “vision control” in the Bible

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Final Takeaways

• Spirit entities are not just tricksters but are capable of generating entire immersive worlds and lifetimes to entrap the seeker—nothing received outside of Christ can be trusted.
• Consent is repeatedly harvested—through ritual, divination, or even passivity in dreams.
• Experiences of healing, powers, or revelation from non-biblical sources are to be regarded with extreme caution and skepticism.
• The mechanisms of deception outlined in spiritual literature strongly parallel both ancient biblical warnings and the developing landscape of modern paranormal phenomena—including alien/ET disclosure.
• Expect further escalation as prophetic timelines, world events, and the “Great Deception” converge: “Stay curious, stay dangerous.”

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Where to Find Seth:

• Instagram/Twitter: @SethLehem_
• Book: Spirit Realm Shenanigans (Amazon, Payhip)
• Free Audiobook: YouTube (“Spirit Realm Shenanigans Audiobook!”)
• Next appearances: Forbidden Knowledge Podcast, possibly The Confessionals

Closing words:
Reach out if you or anyone you know has encountered “Pleiadian Jesus” in a dream, and for New Agers/Gnostics—Seth offers a $1,000 bet if Spirit Realm Shenanigans doesn’t at least move the dial.

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“They’re just playing characters, they’re putting on a show – the healing is real to a degree, but it’s temporary…anything to get you into channeling…as long as you’re doing that, they don’t care what you believe as long as it’s not fully the Bible.” – Seth Kicklighter [14:03]

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For more—Part 2 is coming soon!

Transcript

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[Seth Kicklighter]

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[Seth Kicklighter]

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[Seth Kicklighter]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Seth Kicklighter]

No, you don't understand. It went perfectly.

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[Seth Kicklighter]

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Nothing went wrong. So what's the problem? That is the problem. Nothing in my life goes as smoothly. I'm waiting for the catch. Maybe there's no catch.

[Seth Kicklighter]

That's exactly what a catch would want me to think.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Seth Kicklighter]

I need to knock on wood. Do we have wood? Is this table wood?

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[Seth Kicklighter]

Okay.

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[Seth Kicklighter]

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[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Seth Kicklighter]

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[David Lee Corbo]

When the last trumpet sounds and the heavens crack. Block, block, block, block.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Level Death.

[David Lee Corbo]

They said we are early. Welcome BL ladies and gentlemen to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven. That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. Before we show you the camera where the other guest is, we're going to tell you where to pay. It's patreon.com/now/nephilim death Squad. You'll gain early access to episodes ad free listening viewing experiences. I gotta actually put the viewing part up there. People are getting really upset. And that's on me. But you will get early. I haven't done anything. I took a nap today. Bohemian Grove. You'll get tickets to that place when where that event when it happens, when David gets on it, when I wake up for my next nap. Also discount codes off merchandise toplopster.com you where you can't get the shirt that top is wearing. He loves to wear the shirts that you can't get.

[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Top Lobster]

We have a fun guest today.

[David Lee Corbo]

We do have a fun guest today.

[Top Lobster]

Talking to him like, what about him? While he's sitting there.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

In this very small room joining.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's a big room. People say it looks bigger on camera. It's very small room. Seth Kick Lighter, author of Spirit Realm Shenanigans. I'm gonna read the subtitle here. An unhinged rant exploring the psychic fabrication using. My mistake, I suck the psychic fabrications of discarnate dweebs and nephilim nitwits. Before we get into it, where can people find this book?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Dude, it is on Amazon. You can buy directly from me. Schizo autograph signed copy if you buy through my payhip. It's all in my link tree which is on my social media bio. But I need to let people know I got hacked yesterday because I'm a dumbo and I clicked a link and I lost $70 and I needed that money. Click the link. But I forg him, of course.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So I had to make a new social media on X. My now my Instagram, which is more for my photography stuff is Seth Lehem underscore. And now my new Twitter is Seth Lehem underscore. I had to take the underscore now on X.

[David Lee Corbo]

Damn.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Under set kick. Now there's two accounts. One with like 800 followers almost one with like 12. I'm the 12. The other. The other guys might even win 1200. No, I have like 800.

[David Lee Corbo]

Just 12. Just 12 regular people.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I didn't ramp up that fast. I'm not that successful. Successful one and the two after this, I'll. I'll double it.

[David Lee Corbo]

I bet I'm gonna go follow you right now.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It's pretty sad right now.

[David Lee Corbo]

Damn, dude, look at you right here.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You had a verified account.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's crazy too, because you had a verified account.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I did, yeah. I had the whole thing. And I'm contacting the help support from the robots who are dealing with it. They're not. They're not. Apparently very keen to get back to you quickly and they want to ruin my life, so I'm just gonna.

[Top Lobster]

Those are Indians.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, No, I know.

[Seth Kicklighter]

There are a couple habibis that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I'm trying to be nice and patient, but I'm getting. This is bad timing because I wanted

[David Lee Corbo]

to promote my whole little H1B1. But they'll get around to it. Probably not. They won't get around to it. It's a shame, man, because I'm trying

[Seth Kicklighter]

to move on and just let God take me. With where the waves.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right. Okay, well, I have to find you Seth Lehem with an underscore.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Correct one. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Sethem.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah. Nope.

[David Lee Corbo]

Do I spell things wrong? Oh, Seth Lehem with an underscore. And so. So tell us a little bit about. We're gonna get into this big conversation. I see you have plenty of notes. You've actually worn that I cannot.

[Top Lobster]

If you guys look at the screen here, we have it pulled up. So go ahead and, and follow.

[David Lee Corbo]

The problem is it's identical to the last one in all of its aesthetics. It just doesn't have a. A, what do you call it? Blue check mark. Yeah. So that's the differentiation.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, it's the account that says my account was hacked. This is my work. I'm pissed with the three angry emojis, man. That's me. The other one's.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay, great. Yeah, retweet that so that people can see the correct Seth Lehem.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So.

[David Lee Corbo]

So I know you have a lot of notes and we've been warned to shut the hell up because he's got a lot of stuff that he wants to get through. Yeah, I like to talk. I know I. I have to try to tone it down, but give us a thousand foot overview. What are we going to be getting into today?

[Seth Kicklighter]

I'm going to endlessly rant off topic here, but so I'm going over my two main theories in the book. The primary one, which they're related to each other, but the primary one is that demonic entities or you know, if you're new age or gnostic and believe there's all these sorts of spiritual entities, whoever they are, all have the ability to completely impress upon you visions, grandiose visions, where every little detail, incredibly to a detail, every little detail is controlled. And I think this is the mechanism they use for not only out of body travel, which is all fake and gay, as you guys might say. And then they also apply to past life regression memories where you divinate through divination you access them through hypnoaggression or even children's past life memories, which we're going to try to get that to that near the end if we can. And how they're impressed upon children. And that's really dark and weird.

[David Lee Corbo]

So wait, so you're saying they. They can. You're talking about fabricating the entire world is completely fabricated. Does that apply to remote viewers who

[Seth Kicklighter]

are viewing all the data?

[David Lee Corbo]

Interesting.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Remote viewing is lower. I like to call it like lower CPU usage. It's much less immersive than astral travel. So if they can do this for astral travel, which I will prove very quickly to you, they can easily do this for all the data funneling in RV data. And a lot of it's impression based and download based of just intuitive knowing that is very powerful. And once you realize how calculated the control goes is there it kind of factors into every single thing. Because when you're out of body, they control your intuition, your perception, your. They guide your. Like they tell you, they admit to it. The out of body travels that people use for reference to go, I want to try this. I want to do this. And I did it. I went out of body like 80 times. My bad. I didn't know it was wrong. Whoops. I didn't know. And then they pulled me out a couple times. Don't nap anymore because of that. So damn.

[David Lee Corbo]

Wait, I got to be careful with weirdly.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Naps is like a ritual thing for me when you. It's weird. I don't. It's like a consent.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't like the whole napping. Don't. Don't besmirch napping.

[Top Lobster]

Naps are consent.

[Seth Kicklighter]

No, it's complicated. I might get into that later.

[David Lee Corbo]

You given consent?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Because I used to. Yeah, it's like a ritual. I did it on purpose. I slept five hours a night, four hours a night because a book told me to. A channeled entity. Because I'm retarded. I believed it. And they told me to sleep less and nap occasionally and you'll get out of your body real easy. And they were right. Oh, because it's the ritual of doing that I can feel.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, I'm already upset because I have so many questions I want to ask. But I have to allow him to get through this.

[Top Lobster]

Well, I wanna. Before you do start. How did you. How do you. How does one get into this and how does one start writing this book at this length? I mean you've compiled a lot of it seems like your writings and A lot of it seems like stories that you're compiling, and it's.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It's a lot of excerpts, and it's a lot of just explaining lore itself. And then it's my analysis and comparison comparing to other lore and how they can't coexist with each other without being. The only explanation for all of it coexisting is it's a coordinated operation with vision control. And that is something I will prove very quickly when I get into the details, but because I'm going to read excerpts from the lore now. The excerpts are in my book, so it's from my book, but I'm reading excerpts from a lot of. It's going to be from Robert Monroe's trilogy.

[David Lee Corbo]

Can I touch your notes?

[Seth Kicklighter]

You can touch them, but you can't be careful.

[David Lee Corbo]

Look at that. I mean, this is like.

[Seth Kicklighter]

We're not going to get through it all.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, it's not embarrassing at all.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I wanted to be prepared. I know I'm a little youngster and I'm a goofball, so people are going to take it seriously until I get into it more. Well, it's a big concept.

[David Lee Corbo]

You're a listener of the show, correct?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

So you've heard a lot of the things. The audience has heard a lot of the things. And I. It's not really about the. This is form over function. Right. It's not the form that the information comes in, it's the function. And people will be able to determine whether or not this adheres to patterns that people who are more intelligent than us have come on the show and laid out. And. And I have a feeling, just based off of what you're saying, it's evoked a lot of questions already that I don't want to start uncorking, but I can tell this is going to be really fascinating. So. So, I mean, man, start wherever the hell you'd like to start.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Well, I want to talk about vision. No, concept number two, and the theory of that. And then break that down, and then we'll get into the vision control stuff. So the second theory I'm presenting in my book breaks down the channeled spirit releasement therapy methodology of, you know, largely popularized in the 90s and 2000s. I don't know if it's big anymore. No one talks about it. Upsets me that it's not a talking point anywhere unless you're looking for it. Spirit releasement therapy, which I'll explain what it is later.

[David Lee Corbo]

But it's spirit releasement therapy.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yes, it's. And there's manuals on this. There's full book manuals that I've read and I've dissected and cross examined with other books. So whenever you compare that. It's a false healing method where demons are basically masking themselves as characters so they play and all channeled work. You know, you have demons masking as ghosts often, or they'll sometimes claim to be demons, but they'll themselves to be, you know, a different level of intelligence and give you a different image of who they are. There'll be aliens, all sorts of aliens, because there's so many out there. And they will also be soul fragments, parts of yourself that are split off that you need to reintegrate.

[David Lee Corbo]

That that's essentially work, right?

[Seth Kicklighter]

I guess you would call it that as well. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Is that like the idea of like a demon, like having to integrate the demon?

[Seth Kicklighter]

You have to, you have to ask for it. Why do you have to ask for it? And then you have people. Now I got to legally be careful here because I don't want to get anybody trouble, especially myself. But you, but you have Christian Deliverance method methodology like those of. I focus on heavily Dan Duvall. And you know, these are opinions

[Top Lobster]

on the confessionals. He's like, he kind of looks like me, now that you mentioned it.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Don't say that.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's short.

[Top Lobster]

He's short. Okay, well.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And you're like medium as hell.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right. Hell. All right, cool. So. So Dan Duvall, you have a, A sort of what, a gripe with his.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I have a major gripe. And I, I. He's the most defamed person in my book. Attemptively at least. And, and I say that legally, safely, because they're all things that he said. I'm taking. I'm taking. Absorbs. That's from words. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, he do look a little familiar.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Like he's got that tone a little bit. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

He was on the confessionals talking about portals.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He's blowing up right now on Taylor.

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[Seth Kicklighter]

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[Seth Kicklighter]

I would love to go on the show, but he's had Dan Duvall on four times and a lot of other people who I disagree with, which is fine. A lot of opinions out there. What do I know? But Dan Duvall's been on four times. He's blown up, getting a lot of views, a lot of love. His new book, talking about pre ademic memories is getting really big and that's an interesting concept. And pre ademic memories, which by the way, he accesses via these same methods SRT does through a hypno regression type state trans state. And they access them through getting controlled visions and they never get past life memories because they don't believe in that. But whenever you do past life regression through a New age therapist, you will absolutely get past life memories and you will never hear once of a predomic memory ever. A little weird how they don't.

[David Lee Corbo]

They selectively feed. This is, this is kind of what Nathaniel Gillis talks about.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

This phenomenon will present itself as whatever you're most willing to accept at any given moment. So if you're a New Ager.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Deception.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, right. If you're a New Ager, then it's going to feed you that kind of. If you're into pre ademic societies and, and ancestral memories or whatever, then it'll give you those.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Anything to get you into channeling into accessing spirit information. As long as you're doing that, they don't care what you believe as long as it's not fully the Bible.

[David Lee Corbo]

Because it's a, it's a matter of consent.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, yeah. And it's a matter of them getting in their claws deeper and giving you more disinformation. So it's very elaborate. The SRT stuff gets very elaborate. We're saving that for the second half. I'm going to try to do the out of body, you know, proving that the vision control is real. And then you'll get into the.

[Top Lobster]

Hey, don't, don't, don't rush.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, we got time today. I got time today.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Also. Present, present what you present will take a minute.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's fine.

[Top Lobster]

It doesn't matter if we have to do it. Second part.

[David Lee Corbo]

We can. And bring that microphone. Remember what did I say?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Get fisted. Get fist myself.

[David Lee Corbo]

Get fisted. Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Code. I'd rather get fisted than fist myself. It seems more romantic.

[Top Lobster]

Get this later outside. Explain. Just like explain yourself. Don't feel like you skipped over anything.

[David Lee Corbo]

Don't feel like you got a rush. We got time.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I'm gonna do my best with keeping that in mind. So yeah, I'm gonna finish up that whole thing. But basically it's a whole theatrical thing. They're playing characters, they're putting on a show. And here's the big thing. The healing is real to a degree. Not really. It's temporary usually. But the healing is real in the sense that right after this healing, not only will they have so matt like full experience visions, like a remote viewer vision, whenever they are doing this healing, they will. Anything they're channeling, they will have a vision at the same time matching what they're saying. That's the thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

So can. Can you give an example of some of those like visions? What are people seeing?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yes, and now I'll get into it more later, of course. But for example, they'll do a group exorcism of spirits in the spirit realm by accessing one spirit and getting that demon who is now on your team. He's a good guy now because you converted him to whatever the light being stuff. And then he will inch. He will bring about a bunch of his guys. He'll say, summon your other friends, your colleagues, your demonic peers. But they are non biblical demons, by the way. And they will all show up. And then you will do a group entity release where you will send them all to the light by capturing them with angels, metaphysically, by ordering angels to capture them. It's a whole thing you're not seeing, but they're seeing it in their mind's eye. They're seeing a whole vision. And sometimes they will see, they will describe a thick black like lava, like goo forming. Not literally, but it will look like that because there's millions of demons coming to them, getting trapped. They believe they're seeing millions of demons come at them at once. And it's so many that it looks like black goo and they're getting a vision at the same time.

[David Lee Corbo]

But you're saying that's one example. One of the. So kind of what you're painting here is when people talk about simulation theory, it's like in this channeled realm, in this non physical realm, these things have the ability to create what is effectively

[Seth Kicklighter]

literally anything they want. Simulation, theory, seamlessly, more seamlessly than anybody can fathom. Which is why I want to get into the excerpts because they will explain that the control is beyond masterful. And if you factor that in, everything else makes sense in a deceptive model.

[David Lee Corbo]

And so one more time before we go on, what does this encompass? This encompasses remote viewing. This encompasses.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Cover everything. I cover mostly out of body work. That's the best chapter evidence wise. And then the spirit releasement therapy stuff combined with Dan Duvall and other practitioners healing methodology which proves that they're just. I didn't say before but they're basically laying off pressure after they heal you because guess what, you just bought into their bullshit.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, they're the ones putting the pressure

[Seth Kicklighter]

and then they relieve it. Right. When you buy into the story and then it validates it. No. And then they, and a lot of people say it comes back later much worse or different things, but it's better for them to lay off. It's not costing them anything to lay off of you. And then they're. In return you're buying into their story which then furthers you from Christianity. If it's, if it's Dan Duvall, he's a Christian, he's doing it with Christians. But they're getting into mysticism and divination and things that drift you and they believe in literal aliens instead of, you know, nephilim hybrid meat suits which I'm gonna meet. Suit guy. Sorry. They, they push all that lore because if they maybe they can't stop you from being saved, but they can stop you from saving others. So it's all beneficial to their agenda and they're very elaborate with their planning and once you see the lies you can reverse engineer a lot of truths from that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Do you think so? I think a lot of people in this space and I wonder if you think Dan Duvall fits this. I don't really know much about his work. I might have heard that confessional like 40 hours. It's.

[Seth Kicklighter]

There's a lot there.

[David Lee Corbo]

So in your estimation do you think this is a guy who is purposely going forward and deceiving or do you think he's been bought into a deception and he's convinced of what he's initially I think deceived.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Useful idiot type scenario. And. But then here's the thing. When I get into the specifics like his teaching others to integrate their soul which is, you know, integrating demons. Once integrate your soul, we have to consent. You have to ask them to. You have to beg them to. And they will. You don't have to beg.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know, what is he saying that. What does it mean to integrate?

[Seth Kicklighter]

I don't give it too much. But. But he basically teaches people that his spiritual drought ended, by the way, whenever he integrated his soul. And he's never had a problem spiritually accessing information since then. And he had his own pre ademic memory, and then boom, he can access other people's predomic memories. And he thinks God's divinely planning it out for him, but really it's demons playing a game with him over time to get him to develop this whole cosmology that is expansive and aligning. He uses the same terms like ascended masters. He encounters ascended masters.

[David Lee Corbo]

He says ascended.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He uses those terms like theosophical.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know, that's sketchy. Exactly. He does say ascended masters around me. Yeah, Fighting words. Yeah, like that.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He uses the terminology, though, and it's slightly rebranded, largely. And you know, the pre ademic memories, like I said, is a rebranding of reincarnation memories. And how are they accessing these immersive emotional memories that have an effect on the people experiencing it if they're not controlled? Deeply ingrained visions, impressions, and the download of information alongside it is also a factor you have to keep in mind because they're like, oh, I just know that this is the truth and I know this is me, and I know that was my ex lover in a past life. And boom, boom, I just knew it.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's what it really comes down to.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But it's all orchestrated and guess what? You consented to it when you did that practice. So that's where it's like you want to. You want to get power and learn all these occult secrets. Oh, you'll learn them, but they ain't gonna be true. You asked for it. That's what God's kind of saying, I think. And I got scripture to back it up. We're gonna get into First Kings 22, near the end of the out of body stuff. And that is the best example in the Bible, proving my theory, I think. Okay, and we'll get into that, of course, because people don't talk about that ever for some reason, but it's a big story. But yeah, let me get into it, because I'm taking forever.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, go ahead. We got plenty of time. So let's. So let's get to it.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You know, I almost asked you guys to let me play the audiobook versions of the excerpts because I pick funny voices for all the people I'm mocking. And they. And it's. It's pretty fun, but it's a little bit distracting and obnoxious, but it's also funny. So we might not do that, but if you want to edit it later.

[David Lee Corbo]

So there's an audio version of it.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Audiobook. Full book is 34 hours.

[David Lee Corbo]

Nice. All right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And it's funny voices all throughout. I promise they're a little annoying and grating, but that's the point of making fun of them. So I thought it'd be appropriate.

[Top Lobster]

First kings 22.

[Seth Kicklighter]

22. And it's revolution repeated in second chronicles 18. They basically say the same story. Again, it's my favorite story, honestly. Just because it's relevant, I guess, to me.

[Top Lobster]

I think we did a Bible study on this. On this chapter recently, but. Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

All right. Okay. My mouth's getting dry. I'm gonna take care of those.

[David Lee Corbo]

Did you. You have. All right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I have water. I'm good. Thank you for checking in on me. That's so sweet of you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Gotta make sure you hydrate.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So I'm gonna start with the hardcore stuff, like direct admissions from spirit guide. So this is. I'm in. Robert Monroe's out of body work, and I'll be switching between his work. I do an entire breakdown on his whole three books. And then I do an entire breakdown on Kurt Leland's otherware, which he is a Monroe Institute contributor. And he got trained by Monroe Institute, and he's like. He wrote a whole book. Big time out of Body guy. He's up in the field.

[Top Lobster]

So the Monroe Institute is where the Bledsows are.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I love that place.

[Top Lobster]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah. No, they. Everybody goes to get their psychic abilities trained there. It's a great time.

[David Lee Corbo]

Shout out to the Bledsoast.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Check it out. So, yeah, I'm gonna be reading excerpts from Robert Monroe's work, and Leland's going back and forth mostly. And then I'll do a little bit of people outside of that who I cover less but are integral, like Emmanuel Swedenborg from the 1700s and goes on watching.

[David Lee Corbo]

Where can I get this audio?

[Seth Kicklighter]

It's on YouTube. Spirit realm shenanigans, exclamation mark. The audiobook, exclamation mark. And then it's separated by chat.

[David Lee Corbo]

So you did your own audiobook and then you put it on? I did.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I did an AI demon thing because I. My roommate was doing the voice, the main voice for the most of the book. Now the excerpts is my roommate, but he does a Great, hilarious voice for it. But it's also kind of like serious and soothing.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But it's funny and. And that's the most of the book. But he. I use an AI to replicate his voice because he was taking forever. He doesn't know how to read, so.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, he has a great voice.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, I get it. I get it.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Understand.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right, so go on.

[Seth Kicklighter]

All right, so I'm gonna read the first two excerpts I'm reading. The second one's kind of the longest one I'll be hitting. So give me. Give me some time.

[David Lee Corbo]

Go for it.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But they're back to back. And I think these are the most flat admissions of what's the going on here. That the ability is possible. So basically Monroe's out of body at this moment. And he is. What is he doing? He's hanging out with his intelligent species. He calls it inspec. That's it's his guide. But his guide, he later finds out is him from the future. And it's his godhead. It's a whole thing. So he's talking to his guide and his guide is like telling him he's gonna put him through this simulation. So I'm just gonna read the excerpt, actually.

[David Lee Corbo]

Go ahead.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So this is Bob Monroe's own words from book two.

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[Seth Kicklighter]

Our journeys. A favorite and quick learn forever method of theirs was simulation. It was based on their ability to create and place into a human consciousness. Mine or an earth type situation so real and so overwhelming that I could not tell reality from illusion. I do not know the limits of such Simulation, but talent or technology. Nor do I know the extent to which they employ the technique. It may only be in my particular case, but I doubt it. The potentials of its application in other ways begs for broad speculation. In my own pattern, it was usually applied as an instant cleanup method of minor emotional patterns that blocked or distorted my clarity of perception or my stability. Usually I was unaware of such dysfunction. They would note it and offer to take care of the problem. I would be informed that the lesson that was about to take place with my consent. Yet once in the simulation, it became absolutely and totally real. And I lived it. If I did not come up with the desired action, the simulation would be repeated until I did. Even in the reception, I couldn't break through the reality of the simulation. Yet once the training sequence was completed, I then knew what it was for. To pose questions about motives seemed irrelevant. Or perhaps I didn't want to endanger the good thing I had going for me. Those are his own words, bro. That's wild.

[Top Lobster]

Well, didn't we. We just heard. I think Nancy was telling us a story about.

[David Lee Corbo]

Nancy.

[Top Lobster]

Nancy about something similar where you're kind of in this realm and there might not be a thing to do.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh no.

[Top Lobster]

Atma was saying the same story as well. Like yeah, he's in a.

[David Lee Corbo]

In a.

[Top Lobster]

Some sort of a sleep realm or he's going there and the objective is unclear in some of the places that he's going in. Oh yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And.

[Top Lobster]

And it's just like. Well, just keep going.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, he's like.

[Top Lobster]

Sometimes I get an odd feeling, but there's no. Nothing to do. Maybe I leave, maybe I stay, maybe I.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You'll be guided to a situation real quick. It reminds me it's a good time.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, yeah, apparently not. Apparently very little. The. So when. When I have a dream sometimes, you know, it's like I'll notice that there is something petitioning me. Like something wants. You said he's repeating this until he gets to. Until he.

[Seth Kicklighter]

They're programming certain behavior and. Yeah, and. And concepts of certain philosophical things. They're programming like mental in him basically so that it can process into his other work.

[David Lee Corbo]

It reminds me of like when people have repetitive dreams or repetitive nightmares or. Or things like that. As if there's like a goal here. The goal is to get you to go through this simulated reality and what. Maybe eventually choose the correct thing and then the simulation is done and they've got the correct. What would you call it? Behavioral trait programmed in the individual. And then we can go on to something different, like I'll have.

[Seth Kicklighter]

If not just to traumatize, you know,

[David Lee Corbo]

could be just to dramatize. Yeah. But I have that one where it's like there's constantly a woman trying to petition me. I had it recently, really recently, and I was really annoyed. I'm sitting at a table and they. They keep sitting X's from my past next to me. And each one gets, like, a little about this one.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And each one gets, like, a little bit better, like a little bit comfier. But I'm still like, there's something wrong. I have, like this looming feeling of guilt. And then eventually, on my left side, as opposed to my right, my wife is sat down. And then I feel, like, relieved. And I feel happy and comfortable. And then I. I choose her. And then I'm relieved even in the choosing. But this thing keeps happening, like, throughout my entire life. It's. I don't know.

[Seth Kicklighter]

A lot of it's consent harvesting attempts too.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And people go, it's not fair to get consent dreams. And I'm like, well, it's a gradual degrees thing. And I think it's. And I. And I think people are like, oh, it's not really fair. I'm not really conscious. I'm not lucid. But at the same time, I. I kind of understand God's structure of that whole system just because it's. It's kind of like ingrained in your personality, how you respond to these things. So it's still part of who you are. If you're like a sexual deviant, you're having all these sex dreams and.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Incubus characters coming to you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You know, if you respond to it and you don't say, I rebuke the name of the Lord, then maybe your, you know, full personality might need some rework.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Because your subconscious is just an extension.

[David Lee Corbo]

Things that you do in your physical life that are the consents that you give and then you're waiting.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Like the dreams, I think you don't get a huge amount of consent from. You're not gonna get abducted because you got.

[David Lee Corbo]

But it doesn't matter because you already gave them.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Gradual. Yeah, but it's gradual. So it's. It's a whole thing. And, you know, demonology is a little complex, but it's simple. Once you know, the more you sin, the more you go against God's covenant, the more you're opening doors, more access. It's literally like a back and forth, back, whatever degree you're going. Interesting. That's what I believe so.

[David Lee Corbo]

I think that, you know, practically as. As I've seen it applied, that's. That's how it functions as far as.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Which is the most fair universe structure ever, by the way. Shout out to Yahweh.

[Top Lobster]

I've had some instances where I could like I woke up from a dream, but I was able to pick up back in the dream right where I left off. That's interesting because I wanted to go. I don't even remember what I was doing, but I wanted that I wanted to keep doing that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Would you say that these things are constructing even your dream realm?

[Seth Kicklighter]

I don't think every dream, but I think repeating dreams more than likely. I think more vivid ones. Absolutely. If they're super vivid and you remember them and there's something important happening them, or maybe not important because it can be just consent harvesting in really dumb, elaborate ways which Vicky or Joy. Vicky Joel Anderson talks about. Yeah, shout out. But I don't think it's ever dream now. I don't think they have the manpower. I think they actually have. This is. I don't think they're unlimited in numbers.

[David Lee Corbo]

And you're. In your estimation, is there ever good things at work that are. Because I mean in the Bible, right, you're getting. Men get dreams and visions.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I believe that. I just think that that's much less common as the angelic slash God side is much less intrusive and interventionist on a number scale by far, demons are 99 of the time plus in these encounters. Now if your divination seeking it out, boom. It's demonic in my opinion. But if it's coming to you, it's more than likely demonic and it could be angelic, but you have to judge it by its fruits. And does it further the kingdom in any way? Does it help anybody in Christ? Does it do any of that? Right. If it does not have any furthering that, then God wouldn't have done it. So that's what I personally believe. Okay, now we got to move on.

[David Lee Corbo]

Please go on. I'm sorry I said I was gonna interview or.

[Seth Kicklighter]

No, you're good. That was a good. That was a good banter. We got. We got it.

[David Lee Corbo]

So this is a banter at a minimum.

[Top Lobster]

We might need Seth in. In studio like all the time.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Just be like. All right, that's it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Let's wrap it up. Wrap it up.

[Top Lobster]

Wrap up the banter.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I'm available for hire. No, I'm not. So yeah. I just want to clarify though. In the simulation, he admits it's. He can't distinguish it from reality. We'll get into another one where it's another simulation from Leland. But he admits that, and he admits he doesn't know how much they use it and that we should probably speculate on what this could mean for other, you know, realms of avenues of exploration. So he admits to that and he says he didn't want to endanger the good thing he had going for him. As in, he doesn't know if he should question this, but he's having a fun time, so might as well keep it up.

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[Seth Kicklighter]

He said that? His own words. Just saying. So now we're going to Kurt Leland's astral escape room situation. Which this is a bit longer of a. I gotta guide you through this one. But it's gonna be. It's gonna be. This is gonna be this one of the silliest. There you go again.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm practicing. Right. All right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

All right. And go. So I gotta. Before I read the quotes, I gotta guide you through it a little bit because there's a lot of. This is a long, you know, segment that I'm cutting up and shortening. So Leland is out of body and his guides are telling him, hey, we got a test for you. We're gonna put you through the simulation. They're admitting it's a simulation. And your task is to escape. You know, not like, you know, an escape room, but it's like metaphysical as. So it's more. It's more like mind puzzle shit. It's gonna be a really stupid ending though. Anyway, so he's sent to this. What seems to be. He thinks it's like 1600 era Italy and he's in a castle. And this castle room he's in is there. There's no door. So it's not like a copy and paste of a relocation. It's. There's no door. And then it is. He's dressed up all silly like 1600s Italy, whatever. And then he is looking at a table with a drawing on. It's an architects like drawing. And he thinks, oh, I must be an architect. It's so real and so immersive. He thinks he's reliving a past life memory of being an architect. Which is weird because you don't have autonomy in a past life memory. That's retarded. So he says. He says I looked down at the drawing table where I found a complex perspective study of a cathedral drawn in ink on a piece of parchment. The sketch was in the style of the Renaissance. Could this be in a past life, one in which I'd been an artist or an architectural draftsman? So that's him questioning. He doesn't know what's going on. And then he says, as I, as instructed, I looked for clues. A quick scan showed me that there was no door. Perhaps it was concealed, like a trap door. After all, I seem prisoner of sorts. And then he says, a bit later, I looked down at the drawing table again. The architectural rendering was gone. In its place I found a piece of typing paper turned sideways. On it was a child's crown drawing of a landscape. A bright blue sky with a smiling sun and puffy white clouds, green grass and a poorly drawn cow grazing by a med by a metal gate. Before I had a chance to act myself, before I had a chance to ask myself what such a drawing was doing in the Renaissance, however, I found myself inside it. A real life figure projected into a cartoon. A wind of colors flew by the sunset and the crescent moon lying on its side rose up. The moon had a big nose and was wearing a nightcap. A music box began to play Beautiful Dreamer and the moon started to sing along in the voice of Frank Sinatra. A chorus line of five pointed stars world and jigged between verses, occasionally chiming in. The brown cow never moved, however. It remained frozen mid chew, grass dangling from its mouth, faintly pathetic. The sun and the moon seemed to be attached to a revolving wheel that kept spinning faster and faster. Day alternate day alternated with night so rapidly that they blurred together, flickering like a strobe light. And then just as suddenly as I'd been whisked into the child's drawing, I was outside again, seated at the drawing table. The architectural rendering had appeared. That's the level of control I'm talking about.

[David Lee Corbo]

I want to ask. Ask a question.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Go for it. Why?

[David Lee Corbo]

I love. I love how this dude is so willing. So many people are willing to say, oh, this must be me in a past life. It's a romanticizing. It's. I think it's an I'm special thing. There's just something about that.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Maybe it was intuitively impressed upon him

[David Lee Corbo]

as well that could be the case. And I love how he does not at all assume and I guess obviously

[Seth Kicklighter]

because they're doing this for years with the same gods, you trust them, you got to keep that in mind, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

But there's no assumption of that whatsoever. When it is, if, if it's a crude drawing, a child's drawing, there's no part of you that like feels like maybe I was the child that drew this. Maybe I was the child that envisioned this. And it's just like this is just a child's drawing. A crude drawing with a cow eating the grass. But outside of it, in the locked up tower, that must be a past life experience. I don't know. It's just, to me it's, it's, it's constant. In my opinion, Besides the trusting, the entities, people trying to impart some sort of like heavy spiritual, gifted meaning upon their lives. Like it's often fat women that tend to believe that they were Cleopatra in a past life. You know what I mean?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, they're all high priestesses in Egypt. Every single one. There's somebody. I have a whole 20 pages on that actually.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's what I'm saying. So like there's just something that just, it gives your life this special dynamic. And so you want to claim like, oh, this must be my ancestors, this must be me. In a past life is a powerful

[Seth Kicklighter]

weapon, feeds into pride, which is like the most dangerous because we've all dealt with that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh yeah, the special thing is like, that's the, the real poisonous pill.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And that's why it works. People want more. They're like, I need more of these past life memories because my life sucks. That's what's going on. Yeah, yeah, I gotta. This isn't done though.

[David Lee Corbo]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So he's in the child's drawing. He gets pulled out instantly. Keep in mind it's an instant transfer. We'll get into more of that later. But they're capable of instant transfers to these elaborate realms. Boom. Making a singing stars and moon and flipping day and night instantly. Like that's the level of control we're talking about. So keep that in mind with everything else we're going through because that says a lot. And then people go, no, this is a dream he had. No, there's an entity communicating with him and having a cohesive like storyline throughout his years of projections.

[David Lee Corbo]

And how long is he doing this? Do you know?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Decades. And he wrote this book after I think a decade or so of his work, but at least a decade, decade and a half. And he has seminars online that I've watched. And he's like out there, like he's, he's not like just some crazy dude. This is all cohesive in my model. First of all, you know, they're not all. Everybody's subconscious isn't manipulating everybody in a cohesive way across the entire world, by the way, which is what you'd have to believe to think this is not real. You know, so anyway, it's not done. So he says, what happened? So he. He momentarily forgets this is not the quote. But then remembers why he's there to escape because he's getting lost in it. His lucidity is getting lower over time, which they control your lucidity. They're doing that on purpose to. With him. So shortly after, more unproductive brainstorming because he remembers, oh, wait, this is why I'm here. He keeps forgetting and remembering why he's there, because he's getting lost in it. He. Another instant shift takes place right after this, after he's in the Italy room in 1600. So now it says, the study vanished, and I found myself wandering through a desert. With a clarity of logic that startled me, I resolved to seek out the witches and warlocks who must have been responsible for this bizarre change of scenery. Perhaps they could tell me how to escape this reality in which I've been imprisoned. I walked and walked. The desert remained featureless as it had been when I first arrived. But he says I was lost. But that didn't stop me. I kept on walking anyway. Suddenly my perspective shifted. I seemed to be seeing myself from far away, looking down on myself as I walked. The desert planet I was walking on was so small that it spun beneath my feet with every step. I was wholly responsible for its rotation. I panicked. I began to feel that I would be trapped inside this barren reality, wherever and whatever it was, forever, without transition. I found myself back in the architect's study. Not done, but that's, you know, that's where it's going. So they can make you on a little planet with its own gravitational force, and you're a giant on it. Like, that's how fucking crazy. They're crazy creative. I gotta give them that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, it's.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It's creative.

[David Lee Corbo]

That forgetting and remembering thing is a theme in dreams a lot.

[Top Lobster]

Is it creativity? Because it seems like nonsensical almost. AI.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, well, when you get into the entirety of it, it's. It is creative and it's. It's a perfect alternate. Not this. Not the simulation, but the cosmology they build with the false realms, which. I'm saying the false realms are the same thing. It's a fabricated Dream. But people believe it's real places. And once you realize it's all fabricated in a very genius way to create this cosmology, it. I. I'm not saying. I'm not trying to give, you know, any credit to them, but I'm just saying, like, it is the perfect assumption considering what they have to work with. And I think that's, you know, always been the greater plan to see which side you gravitate towards truth or, you know, deception. But anyway, we're gonna move on. So I say this is not a quote, he. But he truly seems to forget why he's there. And eventually a concealed door opens, because there was no door. Now the door opens and a woman walks in, getting lost in character again. He assumes he's the Count of Monte Cristo. He forgets who he is and thinks he's living a past life as the Count of Monte Cristo.

[Top Lobster]

Sorry. Sorry to interrupt. So not only are they manipulating his surroundings, but they're even manipulating his Persona,

[Seth Kicklighter]

his perception of who he is. His thoughts, his intrusive thoughts are moment to moment, though.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like, it's fleeting.

[Seth Kicklighter]

They pick when they want to do it. They don't always do that because it would be too much, but they. At certain times, I'm picking aggressive times.

[Top Lobster]

Do you think that that's like a. Like their power capability kind of thing? Like.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Absolutely.

[Top Lobster]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Absolutely.

[Top Lobster]

No, no, I mean, like. Like, they'd have to exert a lot more power to manipulate.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And if they can do this in the astral, with this degree of simulation in a physical way, remote viewing is nothing. Channeling is nothing. It's just words. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Remote viewing is just replicating.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It's much less sensory, immersive. It's. It's. It's similar things, you know, you get visuals, you get auditory, you get impressions.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But it's mostly download information and a little bit of visual goals. So if they can do this, remote viewing is nothing. It's easy for them. So I make that point too, because it's all connected.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's. That's.

[Top Lobster]

That's.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So we're. But we're. This one's almost done.

[Top Lobster]

I do have another question, but. No, no, go ahead.

[Seth Kicklighter]

No, I sounded like I had an attitude then, but I didn't.

[Top Lobster]

I sounded afterward because it'll. I think it'll lead into a little bit of a longer conversation.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Okay, perfect. Well, this one's almost done, so. Yeah. He forgets who he is. Thinks he's a manager. Connie Christo. And I bet that was impressed upon him. And then the lady comes in and she is. What is she doing? She's a chosen form to connect with him. And she's his guide, basically masking as this random woman. And she says he's not doing a good job escaping and that he's getting more and more immersed in the false reality, which I think was always the plan and they wanted him to fail. And then he says, let or no? She says, let me ask you something. The instructor said, where on earth are you able to walk through a crayon drawing while the sun smiles at you and the moon starts singing? Your study contains bits and pieces from every historic period from the last 500 years. We threw in everything but the kitchen sink to get you to realize this was a dream. And we finally had to put that in too. All you had to do was realize the utter impossibility of everything around you you were perceiving and tell yourself you must be dreaming. That's how you escape, is just realize.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, the finger count. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

So is this. Do you think that they're doing this on purpose though, to like, belittle him and make him dependent on them?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Dependent, yes. That's a big part of this. And we'll get more of that later. But like dependent for guidance throughout the realm.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, because if they can control his perception and his awareness of reality.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Couldn't it be that they're just dumbing him down to such a degree?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Absolutely.

[David Lee Corbo]

And then coming up to him and going, look at how much of a dummy you are.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Here's the big thing I didn't talk about. And they admit to this. They claim that they're. Monroe and Leland claim that their lucidity levels seems to be, you know, dwindling in these simulated realities, but in the regular out of body state, which is. Is totally different. They claim that they don't have that problem. Now. I don't think that's because they're. The whole point of that is so that they can go see your lucidity is up only in the simulations. And when you're outside that, they're controlling the whole thing. But when you're outside of that, that's how you know it's real. So that's how they. Because otherwise they'd be revealing too much by admitting this. It's. It's elaborate, but they. So I think that's the whole point of that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And really they control your lucidity the whole time because it does seem to fluctuate in other areas. They just don't talk about it as much.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's interesting.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But in the simulations, boom. They get lost in it real quick. Like a dream. Dream.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know, I had that recently where I had this dream. And I remember when I. When I'm going in the mighty name of Jesus. And I keep saying this over and over again because I'm having something that feels negative. Yeah. And I.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But I.

[David Lee Corbo]

But I can't. I actually have to. I'm, like, struggling in this dream. I'm like, what am I saying? What am I saying? What am I trying to convey? Like, I was. I was really struggling with trying to.

[Top Lobster]

We were comparing it to, like, that Eggman game and SEGA Genesis where it's like. Like, what am I supposed to do here?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

What's the level?

[David Lee Corbo]

There was something, like I was dumbed down to some degree where I couldn't. I. I was, on repeat, saying a thing, but I couldn't conceptualize what it was that I was trying to convey. And I knew that it was important. Like, if I'm just saying the mighty name of Jesus to stop and experience, you know, they don't want you to

[Seth Kicklighter]

do that, so they'll slow you down if they can.

[David Lee Corbo]

And they were slowing me down, if that's what was going on in the sense of, like, what are you saying? You're just saying, like, a bunch of noises. And I'm like, what am I saying?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Like, what am I saying? It's funny. It was hard.

[David Lee Corbo]

It was hard.

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[Seth Kicklighter]

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[Seth Kicklighter]

Anyways, we're gonna move on to rote simulation, which is. I try to go in order of things that are correlated with each other, but it's gonna. It's gonna fluctuate.

[Top Lobster]

The question before we forget, what kind of. What kind of power they. I don't know. Is it like an electricity kind of power? What are they doing to power this simulation? What do they need?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Well, it's not technology, and some people might disagree with that, but I. I think it's incredibly clear once you read the work. What I'm presenting here that it's, it's just consciousness. And are you going out of body, leaving your body, or are they coming in and doing it? If they can come to your dreams and you're not leaving your body necessarily, who. And maybe both is happening? Who knows? I don't think it matters because you're not really going to the places they're taking you. It's all fabricated anyway, so it doesn't totally matter in my opinion. But as far as the power goes, I think it's just consciousness control. It's an ability that God endowed them with. And I've, you know, I talk about that in the outro chapter and why I think that is in the deeper big picture to that. But I, I think he. I think God allowed it as this is the tool deception. But it plays into our hearts because everything we're getting out of these false deceptions is because for the most part, we sought them out. Yeah, for the most part. I'm not gonna say everything, but for the most part we sought them out. People are deceived, and I feel bad for people who are deceived, who are good people. But that's why I wrote this, because I wrote it mostly for New Agers and Gnostics.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Because Christians, yeah, can use it as like, like, you know, battle information of reverse engineering deception, no doubt, but. And a lot of them believe in reincarnation apparently, which is. I break that down quite a bit. But yeah, I wrote it for New Agers and Gnostics who are in this realm and I was in that realm for a while. I didn't really identify with it too much, but I read all the lore. I read like 89.

[David Lee Corbo]

This is the idea that you would have these experiences and you would say,

[Top Lobster]

came out of it, kept the hair.

[David Lee Corbo]

You would say like, oh, Christianity in the Bible doesn't address this. These are just simple people who have simplified this. But I have access to this. I'm going to these realms, I'm having these experiences.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Theosophy is all about experience.

[David Lee Corbo]

But if you can like pull those people, you say, hey, yeah, yeah, your experience is real, you're having it. But it's not real tangible. It's not real in, in the sense that it's nothing beyond a simulation that these things are generating for you.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yes.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Okay, so we're gonna go on to the rote thing. So Row is Bob Monroe's kind of his own word. He created for a thought ball energy packet, a download. It's basically a download that any entity in The Astral can give any entity in the astral world. And so basically it is. It can be just information, like a complex topic. Instead of communicating with you back and forth, there's like, here, take this. And you'll understand it immediately. So it can be easy disinformation there because you plant a whole bunch at once. Yeah. Which a lot of abductees and, you know, fringe and everybody talks about, oh, I gotta download. I instantly knew all these complex things and I forgot it maybe somewhat, but I, I instantly knew all these things that happens.

[David Lee Corbo]

All that's the same thing for the guy who made the Matrix. He's like, okay, you mean to download,

[Top Lobster]

are they able to take that back?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Back.

[Top Lobster]

Once they give it to you, can they take that packet back?

[Seth Kicklighter]

You know, a lot of it when it's super dense, like fades, kind of like a dream. Some of it's retained, but the details might fade. But here's what I'm gonna get into is it's not only just downloads of information. And I don't think taking it back to real, it's like, you get it, you got it. It's not like you can access, go in and just pick it out like a file. I mean, I guess you could if they wanted you to, but it's all controlled by them. Like I said, it's not your access case. They're going through it and we'll get to the Akashic record stuff.

[Top Lobster]

Randy Goodwin, who we spoke with about sra, when he, he says he like helps people get delivered from some of this programming

[Seth Kicklighter]

through the Astral.

[Top Lobster]

I, I don't know, people do that

[Seth Kicklighter]

shaman thing, more of the.

[David Lee Corbo]

I think it's more organic. Ritual abuse.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yes, he kind of.

[Top Lobster]

But he does it through, you know, like regular deliverance.

[Seth Kicklighter]

There's all sorts of different types and subcategories of deliverance. And I talk about that in the Book of how even people doing regular deliverance and regular exorcisms, I believe, are being deceived. And, you know, the, the demons are acting out as well there. They act in everything. When they possess people, they're acting. When they're doing these simulations, they're acting

[David Lee Corbo]

funny because actors are possessed.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah. All right, there you go. This guy knows. So I don't think every demon interaction is necessarily a full orchestrated thing, but I think a lot of it is. And they're teaching the exorcisms their methodology because they don't get their methodology fully from the Bible. They get it from trial and error from exorcisms, which means they can be taught methodology, which is what is happening. And that's the dandy ball thing for sure. But we'll get into that more later.

[Top Lobster]

Super deceptive. Yeah. Anyway, the guy says he's. These people are just concerned about recovering whatever they've put.

[David Lee Corbo]

They're more like their intellectual property or some like that.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, like the programming. Programming that they've put into this person. Once they release, they're like. They come back, they take it. They're like, all right, next subject.

[David Lee Corbo]

I struggle with that.

[Seth Kicklighter]

That's. That's for another time. And I'm not. I gotta make sure I know what you're saying before I say anything. But. Okay, if it's regarding, like soul fragments and stuff, which we're gonna get into later, let me know if it matches up. But. Okay, it's. It's largely a deception. Okay, but. Which is sad because the SR people have had enough to deal with and now they're getting deceived through these healing mechanisms, which is really up. Which is why I'm, you know, talking about this stuff. So the rote thing is a download, but it can also be an instant transfer to a simulation. Which they don't call it a simulation. It's just. You're in a row wrote, but in this route that Bob gets. I call him Bob. Robert Monroe. I call him Bob.

[David Lee Corbo]

Down the book he meets.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He meets the astral entity named Z55/LOU. L, O, U, all caps. That's dumb. And name.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's his name. What was it? One more time.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Z55/LOU. But Lou.

[David Lee Corbo]

It feels like they're like they're trying to make aliens.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, but it's like. It's like. Yeah, but it doesn't like, register as, like, legitimate at all. Anyway. So this character is like explaining to him what. What happened to him in his past life on a different planet.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, Giving him the whole thing.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He's like. He's like, what happened? And he's like, I don't want to explain it. Just take this. And it's a row. And he instantly gets transferred to a simulation. And in the simulation, he is walking around for a few minutes as a person in a body and then. Or in a fake body, but, you know, it feels real, like I said. Said. And he's walking around and he's in. And he seems to blend in. So either he's in his body or somebody else's body who looks like the species that lives there. But he says they're all humanoid and it looks like Earth, but not Quite like Earth. It's a little weird, but it's similar. So he's walking around and he encounters some people and has some awkward interactions back and forth and encounters some military types. Like it's, it's basically like Earth. Slightly Earth, slightly different ultra universe vibe. And then a tsunami comes and wipes the whole place out. And he, he dies in the simulation and then comes out and then that's his friend going, see, I died in that tsunami. And now you understand because I gave you the simulation so you can understand. Why don't you just say you Dinosunami.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, why don't you have to put him through that?

[Seth Kicklighter]

And it's. And it was like physically affected him. He's like, oh, freaked out. Then he comes back and he's like, oh, oh.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, it's that much more likely that he's going to internalize that.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, there you go.

[David Lee Corbo]

Exactly.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It's all about. It's unnecessary completely. But you know, that's how you communicate in the astral. You just traumatize each other with fake death.

[David Lee Corbo]

Trauma bonding, baby.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Hey, you know, it seems to be effective, right? All right, so that's another thing they do. And I'm not going to get into the whole story because it's super convoluted and too much, but in a later part where he's hanging out with this character he names bb and then there's another character, Aa. That's what they go by. I don't know if that's their name. I think he just chose those names. Annoying. It's annoying to use in the book because it's like Bob and BB and then I make up names for his, for his characters, his guides and stuff. And they're silly.

[Top Lobster]

It's like, it is so low effort. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

It feels like they have no respect for you. Like, what's your name? They're like Zimbab, Bubbly, whatever.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Well, they didn't pick this guy because he's like, you know, mentally the most strong suited. You know what I'm saying? So you gotta keep that in mind. They're picking a useful idiot who's gonna do whatever they say. So in a later part you have. I call it Rotion, like Inception, because he goes into a row where his friends trying to describe to him what his story is, is. And he goes into this row and he's living it like he's that person. And then seeing their whole interaction they had with their story. And then inside that route, another character gives the guy he's playing a rote and then he goes inside that one. Inside the other rope. So it's like. Yeah. And. And he's going inside another one. And. Which basically means you can probably, you know, Russian doll that thing and go. Infinity. Yeah. On a technical term. And that is. He's not going into another one. He's really just switching you.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's all.

[Seth Kicklighter]

That's all it is. But they want you to believe and it creates perception.

[David Lee Corbo]

You have to back out of all of them.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yes. Right. And that's. There's some weird. There. We'll get into later. I talk about my own stuff. But it's. It is absolutely just switching. And it seems like you're going inside another one. And that's what you are impressed upon to feel. Yeah. And it's all cohesive.

[David Lee Corbo]

I've been there before. And I remember the fear that was evoked. And like, knowing that every time I wake up, I'm still in one. You know what I mean? And it's like, not really sweaty.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Just think about. I gotta take.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, go ahead. Take that off. And. What time is it? I think this is gonna be. Oh, no, it's. Never mind. I was gonna say we could open those doors soon, but. Right. A worship group or something outside. I don't know.

[Top Lobster]

I don't know what they're doing back there.

[David Lee Corbo]

Who knows? They might blow the shofar while we're on the show. It. Don't be alarmed if it happens. No big deal. Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So look at the shirt. Look at my face. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

I already checked out the shirt. I appreciate the.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Out of it. Yeah. I wanted to make a.

[Top Lobster]

They used to wrestle at

[Seth Kicklighter]

the joke. Oh, really?

[David Lee Corbo]

It's the same dudes. That. That's where we had the last. Bohemian Grove is. They were.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. We were thinking about having those guys there.

[David Lee Corbo]

I was gonna pull the knife out.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Now I got a booger. Nancy, don't. Don't point that. Okay.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, please focus. In.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Pull.

[David Lee Corbo]

Go in tight On.

[Top Lobster]

On.

[David Lee Corbo]

Seth. No, no.

[Seth Kicklighter]

My reputation.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right, so go on.

[Seth Kicklighter]

All right. So the rotion thing was, you know, funky. And then moving on from that is page 166. So this is Leland's work. And he talks about going into. I call it astral propaganda thing. What is page 166? Give me a second. Second.

[David Lee Corbo]

Go ahead. That's all right. Like, this would be a good time for me to interrupt. But I don't. You know what? I do wonder if we're being primed for this sort of deception with video games.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, I mean, sure.

[David Lee Corbo]

Or if we're emulating, you know, like sometimes systems on Earth emulate like heavenly systems. And I'm not saying like their deceptions are heavenly systems, but the idea that we're here creating entire simulations that are more and more immersive, that are more and more like reality. You know what happens when you cross this line, right? We're going towards this like transhumanism thing or being plugged, if you remember Mother horse eyes. There's a version of reality we're all plugged into like this VR simulator at all times. It's just interesting to me that they're using effectively that to deceive us on all these levels.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Once you get that mark of the beast, you're going to get all these downloads of past life memories, I bet. Yeah. Bottom dollar.

[David Lee Corbo]

As long as we don't have microtransactions in the DLCs for reality, I guess everybody will be fine.

[Top Lobster]

There will be.

[David Lee Corbo]

There will be. Dude, you're right. All right, go on.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Absolutely believe that. But yeah, I call this immersive astral propaganda. And this is a quote from Leland's book. He says, and he says the facilitators, and that's just another name for a certain type of guide. He has like categories of them.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And he says later, they might all be the same thing actually, but he has all these categories. He says the facilitators fulfill a variety of functions in the after death zone depending on the station to which they've been assigned. Thus they may be broken down into subgroups identified by the specific tasks which they perform. One night my guide arranged for me to watch a documentary in the Astral that prov that provided an overview of these tasks.

[David Lee Corbo]

Can't just take a route for that or whatever the hell it's called.

[Top Lobster]

Regular show.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So he says, I was brought to an area of non physical reality that I perceived as a conference room large enough to seat a dozen people at several small round tables. At first I seemed to be merely watching it. Moments later, I was actually inside it. It personally witnessing the things it described while a voice explained what I was seeing. Geez, yeah. So that's, that's another thing. And now there's 22 pages of what he sees in the national propaganda. And it is so up actual propaganda. I want to go into it so bad, but we don't have time. But it's like, can you give us

[David Lee Corbo]

a thousand foot over? What's the nature of it? You can't give us a shortage.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Basically, they described to him the process of what happens to they call shades, but it's ghosts. Whatever happens to your soul after death into the process you go through to basically be healed from your problems.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But they go through a whole, like.

[David Lee Corbo]

Isn't that once again, like shadow work?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Integrating the shadow in the after death zone. And they're, they're. They go into 22 pages and it's crazy. The. They say it is horrifying.

[Top Lobster]

You know what it's like? It's like that episode of Rick and my favorite episode of Rick and Morty where they're doing the intergalactic tv.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, true.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah. It's really funny.

[Top Lobster]

Just whatever.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. I just love the idea that you can. You can't even go to the astral to escape propaganda. Like, they still have it.

[Seth Kicklighter]

That's crazy. We got more, though. I'm not done.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, go for it.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Not even close. So I call this next one Gentle but Firm Hands.

[Cole Swindell]

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[Seth Kicklighter]

Good luck.

[Cole Swindell]

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[Seth Kicklighter]

CHUMBA Casino this is Monroe's first book, and he says one of the greatest enigmas of this whole affair is that someone, or more than one, has been helping me from time to time in such experimentation. Perhaps they are with me every time and I'm just not aware of them. I do not know who these helpers are or why they are helping me. They certainly do not seem to be guardian angels. Their system seems to be more of their choosing and deliberation than mine. They are rarely friendly in the sense that we understand the term. The feeling of gentle but firm hands on each side of me was very strong. The same hands turning me around to leave. Much as one steers, a blind person could not have been more vivid.

[David Lee Corbo]

And he's experiencing this while he's in these altered realms.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, like I said, you have autonomy to a degree. They control what you do, where you go for the most part. And then they let you think you have autonomy, let you roam around, but they're guiding you intuitively to go some places. And they're also physically pushing you around in the astral. And they're Invisible.

[David Lee Corbo]

That once again, does remind me of, of just certain dreams where, like, you, you know, when you become kind of sentient in a dream, like, you're still being guided. Yeah. You're still like, you've been doing a whole bunch of. You've been contact. Communicating with a whole bunch of people. You've been on, on a mission or whatever. And then all of a sudden you're like, wait, what the hell am I doing?

[Top Lobster]

This is the idea about, like being retarded that we joke about?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

I think it's important because when you're being, you're being unpredictable, and if you're being unpredictable, you're not going to be compliant when they're just guiding you down a hallway. Yeah, you might do a flip.

[David Lee Corbo]

I heard somebody recently talk about that, like this shirking off this predictability model by, you know, basically being filled with the Holy Spirit and going where God compels you to go. You know, that's how you're going to get through it. I've been saying something very similar, but somebody said it better than me. Many such cases, but please continue.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, well, this one is in the same vein. It's very similar, I would say. I call it supermind Take the Wheel. Appropriately titled. It says, your destination seems to be grounded completely within the framework of your innermost constant motivations, emotions and desires. You may not consciously want to go there, but you have no choice. Your supermind, in parentheses soul, is stronger and usually makes the decision for you. Again, admitting I don't have full control. These people do. But I trust them.

[David Lee Corbo]

This is interesting because it's almost like if you don't, don't give your life over to God, like something's going to steer you. Even if you're in this astral dreamscape, whatever the hell it is, you put

[Seth Kicklighter]

your faith in them fully. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

So it's like you have to. You're going to be filled with some spirit. It has to be the Holy Spirit. You have to be servant to something. If it's not Jesus, it's going to be something else that's going to be steering you. I wonder if, if the functionality of giving your life over to Christ actually does bleed into these things where it's like if you're in this, this dreamscape that they've created, good luck steering my, my, you know, my, my actions in my astral body or what the hell ever. I've given my life over to Christ and, you know, I'm. I'm obeying the Holy Spirit.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Thank you, Joy Anderson. Talks about her dream harassment. She's not doing divination. Keep in mind, which would change things if she was. They would be much more control because they're getting consent that way. But when she's attacked in the astral, in the dreamscape, she talks about how she can sometimes gain autonomy or the. That her father will be sent messages from some spiritual source telling him to pray over her and whom she saved. So there's people working on the good side. Of course. But if you're doing divination and choosing it and you're deceived, you're on your own. That's the difference. So if you're a victim to harassment, it's. And you have the Holy Spirit, it's. It's different. It's not the same thing.

[Top Lobster]

When you said there are people working on the good side, what do you.

[David Lee Corbo]

I meant black.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Black angels. They're like the globetrotters, but invisible.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Or, you know, God directly, but he sends them all. It's all. It's all connected.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah. But I don't like to say NHI because that secularizes it too much.

[David Lee Corbo]

This goes to your chapter on. On rebranding Biblical terminology.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, well, I don't have a whole chapter on that, but I have a. I talk about that throughout the book.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

How, like, in healing methods, like Daniel Ball, he'll, you know, use biblical terminology to re. To morph things into a different meaning. They don't mean and all exegesis of it. And also, like, certain words in the Bible that I think are just mistranslated. Poorly.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Top Lobster]

I like how Seth is chosen. He's like, you know what? This guy. This guy.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, God. If you look at. I'd, like, call him out really hard and just yell at him for, like, one page. This is where I get in the legal trouble, though, with this part. But it's so.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I don't think. I think. As long as you say no homo at the end or whatever in Minecraft, no homo in my house.

[Seth Kicklighter]

This is me just yelling him in all caps for, like, a full paragraph, so.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, I see it in all caps.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Hey, Dan.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, you.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Very Tim Robinson. Awkward.

[Top Lobster]

Go buy that book, guys.

[David Lee Corbo]

Don't sue me.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, I need. I don't. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And you know what? You. Dan Duvall.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. You know, I don't even like this guy.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't know anything about him. I'll kill him.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I'm gonna film it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Joking. It's a joke. I wouldn't kill. I don't even know who he is. He looks a lot like you. It's, you know, you could take him out.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He's short. All right, so we're gonna move on to. Oh yeah, I got a couple more in that same section where I just lost a page. So in this section, these are four different quotes I just strung together. And they are all from Bob. They're from Bob. And it's him talking about how his Monroe Institute was around. Oh, actually, no, no, it's not about that. That's later. Okay. So these are conclusions he's made about the NHI he's interacting with.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

From his experiences and talking to other people. He says they can check, they can at will change the temperature of the. Of that visited human body. Notice how easily any potential anxieties or fears are overcome by simply a pattern of radiating emanating emotional radiation from strangers. Hear about the whole radiated love thing from.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, that's where I was going to ask. Because a lot of people will. You know, Jake Barber, for example, right, retrieving his egg and all of a sudden he's like, oh, it gets blapped up with love.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He's got, he's getting astrally fisted. He's like, I love this. And then you have angels in the Bible though, when, guess what happens when people, when they're visiting people, what do they always say? Day?

[David Lee Corbo]

They're like, don't fear. Fear not.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You know, because they're not with your chemicals and making you not be fearful. They're letting you come to that conclusion on your own.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's a great thing for that because you see,

[Seth Kicklighter]

yeah, they're not. But they could easily take over you, just like these demons can, but they don't because that's manipulation.

[David Lee Corbo]

So they're like, stop it, relax.

[Top Lobster]

What is it about their composition then that makes you feel. Because we were just reading the fact

[David Lee Corbo]

that they would show up. I mean, think about that. Something that's non human just showed up in your immediate vicinity. It's communicating with you. It probably looks. Looks insane.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Probably feels beefy as hell. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

It also feels. It's probably got some energy exchange. That's what I'm thinking. Radiating off of it.

[Top Lobster]

There must be some. Something like coming off of it. Because whenever, on a visual level alone, probably.

[David Lee Corbo]

I think so, yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

An emanation of vibe, you know.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But they're not controlling your chemicals, even though they have the power to just like these entities.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's like if you've ever been next to a buffalo and you're like this thing could kill me.

[Top Lobster]

Like vibrating.

[David Lee Corbo]

You could feel that this thing could kill you instantly. If an angel know entered this, you know, realm right here, right in front of us, we'd all be like, oh, there's no amount of us that's gonna take this thing. And it would have to because so we would feel like, oh, dude, if this thing wanted to, it could kill us right now. And it'd be like, chill out, don't be a about it. Or totally kill you. But they'd be like, oh, love beam. And that would be gay. Yeah, we'd be like, I love you, you greasy dude. You know what?

[Top Lobster]

I don't like this guy. His name, it's bride Ministries. I don't like the idea of Christ.

[David Lee Corbo]

And. Yeah, it just sounds weird. Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Now that I've always been felt the same. But it's. It's supposed to be wholesome. But he's rooting for me, you know?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Trying to find his.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I got more. I'm gonna keep going. He's like five, two tops, bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, I don't know if that's true. That's an opinion.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I gotta be careful in Minecraft. So. Yeah, these are a couple more quotes. Same same section. Not only can they utilize the vocal cords and the breathing apparatus, but they also have total access to the memory storage lodged in. The individual admitted total access to memory, which I already knew.

[David Lee Corbo]

But is that true? I always assumed they just had like, it was a familiar spirit thing. They've seen so much about your life, they know your experience.

[Seth Kicklighter]

They can prophesize through mediums about things in your life because they are the biggest data collectors on the planet and they data. And they're also a Borg hive mind, by the way, which we'll get into later.

[Top Lobster]

Right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And because of their hive mind and data collection, they have instant access to all information and basically a AI computer. And they can, if they have all the data of your thoughts and memories of everybody on Earth or at least the people who are maybe open. I don't know if holy spirit people are protected. Protected, maybe, but to a degree. But they can access all the memories of pretty much everybody. And if they had all that and the data of where you're going to be when they can prophesy a lot of things through mediums that seem like they're telling the future and can access the future and they want you to believe they're time travelers and the aliens are time travelers and all. Psyop and I have a whole chapter on that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, if Cliff heist probability Machine can scrape data off the Internet and come up with things that do come to pass.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And you only look at the hits, too. There's a lot of misses. So.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, that's true.

[Seth Kicklighter]

True.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, that happens in the alien abduction experience, by the way. It's like they make all these predictions about these calamities that are coming in the future. And ever since, like, the 50s, 60s, and onward, those dates have changed.

[Seth Kicklighter]

They don't know they're not time travelers. They would know better.

[David Lee Corbo]

Those. They're calamities. You know what these people say, though? They're like, well, they stopped that one, but there's like a whole ass other one now.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Well, you can't get through.

[Top Lobster]

They have these ideas, which is why they, like, they've emulated Jesus Christ in a bunch of different ways, but they never get the details correct.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Correct.

[Top Lobster]

They understand that, like the rough outline, but they. Yeah, they're not time travelers. They just kind of have these ideas. Maybe data compilations.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Data compilation heavy.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. Interesting.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. And then do the same thing.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Prophesying of the demonic side. I don't think they can access the future at all. I think that's a bunch of. A lot of people think they really can.

[David Lee Corbo]

But if you can get enough data, you can get a pretty good shot.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, they could break biblical prophecy if they could do that. And they can't do and think about.

[Top Lobster]

I think Marzinski has explained it as well as, like. Kind of like they have, like this Rolodex of your head. Of your mind.

[David Lee Corbo]

Mind.

[Top Lobster]

Like when they. Yeah, when they have access to you, for some reason, they can just kind of pull this out and say, that's what you're afraid of. Hearing your insecurities. Okay, interesting. Let's continue.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah. So one more quote here. The entire history of humankind and Earth is available to them in the most minute detail if needed. Akashic records, which is a bunch of, you know, we'll get into. Yeah, but. So, yeah, I'm gonna go to the next section, page 146. And then this is Bob talking about him. Him accessing the Akashic records of his own life. Like his. His own memories. Yeah, yeah. He's like, looking in himself, you know, no homo. And he says, big homo. Yeah, well, technically.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And he says, as he's looking into himself for these memories, he goes, I immediately encounter the expected. A layer or file library or mainframe containing every moment of my life to date, with more pouring in that matched every. With more pouring in that matched exactly my thoughts and actions as I conducted the investigation. This was far more than memory as we consciously think of it. Upon selection of any given point in the past, I relived the event in every detail down to each minute, sensory input, thought and emotion. I soon realized super memory was not altogether pleasurable. With such an intense hindsight, one becomes all too painfully and sadly aware of the many irrational decisions made, the stupid mistakes and the missed opportunities.

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[Seth Kicklighter]

he's reliving his own life. Not a past life, his own life. Memory in full, every sensory detail and has perfect memory of it now, is he. Are those perfect details? Are they filled in gaps from the demonic who are just filling in the gaps, or they accessing true memories? I think it's the latter, but it could be either technically and it doesn't matter. Better the fact that he. But he's going to experience that and he might forget the details and then when he remembers them in his memory reliving, he'll go, oh, yeah, I remember that. That totally happened. And it's all these, like, awkward things and you're like, oh, it's too. It's too much. It's. I don't want to access this. And it deters you from, like, seeking further, but it lets you know all consciousness is connected and everybody can access whatever they want at all times. It's the Akashic record. Yeah, that's the whole point.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's the universal hive mind. Universal consciousness.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Right.

[Top Lobster]

In your opinion, is this what the telepathy tape kids are.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Don't, don't let me go on a tangent about it, but I do have a chapter on it and it's my least confident chapter because there's so much conflicting data and I could probably figure more out if I read more. But I've. I've. I've listened to the whole telepathy tapes. I've read Joe and Franco's or I've listened to his couple of podcasts. I've not read his book. I have it. And I'm waiting to read that because I've listened to other podcasts saying things like James and Franco with Christian children.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Or Christian parents, or maybe not even Christian, but they're saying stuff about Jesus and encounters with Jesus and the hill, and I'm not going to say I'm 100 on it, but I know for a fact there's deceptions going on there and that demons will masquerade as Jesus and angels. Absolutely. And some of these kids are deceived in the new age. And some of these kids are Christian and they're saying a lot of pro Jesus stuff, which I love, but are those fake Jesuses or some fake. Some are, but they talk about going to heaven and they talk about dogs having guardian angels and they talk dogs having guardian angels with names like Vixen. I'm not joking, joking. And I have. And they talk about going to heaven and Mother Mary escorted them there. Okay. And they held Mother Mary's hand. And then one quote from a child. And the mother's very nice. And she did this podcast, very nice people. I'm not trying to talk, but she says that her, her child who went, or maybe some other child, one of these kids, it's lovely tape kids, went to the astral boom, goes to heaven every night for a couple weeks, which I don't know how that furthers the kingdom. Maybe it does. They have a hard life. Maybe it's for that, I don't know. But they go there escorted by Mother Mary and then they. They were talking to God but they eventually couldn't hear him because they're getting drowned out by all the noisy angels. They're talking over God and no one talks over God and that's just a fact. And even if they were, you're gonna hear God when he's talking to you. So he said, I couldn't hear God. That sounds like fake as hell. And I don't buy it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Dude, I had. So there's this guy here, Richard Gordon, he is the executive producer of the Galileo Project, okay. Author of five best selling books, yada, yada. And he goes. So he goes. The telepathy tapes introduced us to the children of the hill. I have access.

[Top Lobster]

Oh yeah, I saw this guy.

[David Lee Corbo]

And they will answer some of your questions.

[Seth Kicklighter]

They love answer questions.

[David Lee Corbo]

He answered my question. It was weird.

[Top Lobster]

What do you say?

[David Lee Corbo]

So he goes, ask a question about ancient mysteries, nature consciousness, please. Nothing personal or predictive. I said, why are you gay? I said, why are you gay? No, I said, why were the stories of the interactions with Jesus Christ omitted? And what I meant were omissions from the telepathy tapes.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

But he actually answered in some weird ass. I don't have to go through the whole thing. But he says, ellie, which I guess is one of the kids.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And then this is, this is how all the answers start from the hill. Long stillness, something careful forming, dot, dot, dot. And then it goes. This reads almost like AI. He goes, this is a question about power more than about theology. Pause this, you know, this like, like stop as if you're doing like old, old timey communications. And I don't know, I think Morse code had stopping it or something like that. The canonical, canonical gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were selected from a much larger body of text in the Council of Nicaea in 325ce. But it's just like he goes on his whole thing and I'm like are kids giving you this? Like this sounds kind of like. And he goes, why it was omitted. What was omitted and why. Then he goes on to the Gnostic gospels and he continues on and I saw something interesting at the end. He goes this. That story is not specific to Christianity is a recurring pattern of every tradition where genuine mystical experiences meet institutional preservation. The experience survives. It always has. It finds new vessels from the hill. It is finding them now.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Hey Seth, what's up?

[Top Lobster]

It looks like any kind of retard could have his best selling book.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I guess so I got a chance. I'm trying man.

[David Lee Corbo]

I feel like this dude is straight up lying.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, yeah, I don't know, maybe not.

[Top Lobster]

Dude, sorry about the tangent.

[Seth Kicklighter]

No, you're good. And I have potentially darker thoughts in the entire thing there, but I don't want to get into that now.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm gonna forward this to you. You check it out on your own time. Please do because it might bear something interesting. I can't read and so. All right, so. So please continue.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So then we're going to Leland's work again and he talks about the three types of shadow worlds. Now I'm just gonna read it, I'll get into analysis. But he says, says they're waiting for a bus, an astrobus. They're waiting for the. For a bus to the alternate was worlds where they'll experience what things would have been like had they made other choices at major turning points in their lives on Earth. The other two lines are of benefit to the living and rather than the dead referring to the astral visitors that are there, which is not many because it's mostly ghosts because they're dead. So he says the alternate is worlds may be visited by people who want to see what the present would be like if they had made a different decision at some point in the past. Past alternate will be worlds give them a chance to see what consequences might develop from A decision currently under consideration. And he says the alternate WAS system is the only one of the three shadow world lines that gets much use these days. People have forgotten that they can have travel to the shadow world to help them make decisions about how to lead their lives, programming. But you got to keep in mind here, this is something that's only in Leland's work. And out of all the astral travelers out there, Monroe, Brian, or Robert Bruce, Swedenborg, Bowman, William Bowman, all these people, they never talk about this. This is only so.

[David Lee Corbo]

This could be just a product of him having an infatuation with his own regrets, maybe, let's say. And so it fabricates this thing for him uniquely.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It could be, but. And I'm not sure, I'm not saying he's the only one who's ever got this. I'm just saying why is this major thing not talked about by any of the international travels where they talk about everything? Everything. It just sounds. It just sounds weird.

[David Lee Corbo]

It also seems like it's the opposite of faith in the Lord.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, yeah. Well, everything they do is the immersion. They kind of capture that theme perfectly all the time. Now, another interesting thing about this is that. What the hell was I gonna say? Let me refer to my notes. Yeah. He says the guides tell him that the asylums in our world, all the crazy people, totally not schizophrenics. Harassed spiritually by demons. Totally not that. That. He says that they are a lot. Most. Not most, but a lot of them are victims to the spirit realm world where they go to the shadow worlds without proper guidance, reinforcing the idea of needing guides, which. They're always there, but he's reinforcing. Hey, don't try to stray away from us.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's like a 99.

[Top Lobster]

Truth and a lie, right?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, something like that. And. And then he says that a lot of those people are people who went crazy because they forgot after going to the shadow world so much. They forgot what passed past, future and present was even when they're in their body. And I'm like, so that's covering up for demonic harassment at the same time as it's making the lamest excuse ever for all these crazy people.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's also saying that you should. So there's this idea, like, I remember I used to subscribe to it. Like, oh, schizophrenics would be shamans and leaders in. In other spiritual leaders jacked in. So it's like, okay, that's an interesting thing to say because these people, as in my estimation now, are demonically. Oppressed and possessed. Yeah, but you want us to believe, you know, in the new age movements or whatever, that these people are actually, I guess, spiritual authorities.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Enlightened.

[David Lee Corbo]

They're enlightened.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

The. Is that noise?

[Seth Kicklighter]

I farted.

[David Lee Corbo]

Damn, dog, that's a long fort.

[Top Lobster]

And blowing the chauffeur. I don't know what the hell that is.

[David Lee Corbo]

They are blowing the chauffeur.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, hell, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, that's what's happening. Damn.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

Gonna fall down, beat our asses. Jeez, dude. So crazy.

[Seth Kicklighter]

We ain't done. Not even close.

[David Lee Corbo]

Go on, go on.

[Seth Kicklighter]

We're going to Robert Bruce's work, which he is a different Bob. And he. I talk about him near the end of this chapter and he talks about. There's two things I want to get into. He talks about. Let me just read it. It's crazy. He says the projector then moves into the target rather than passing.

[David Lee Corbo]

Shoot.

[Seth Kicklighter]

What?

[David Lee Corbo]

Wait.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, rather than passing through it. It. This seems to be the trick to the subconscious mind into creating a virtual astral realm around the projected double, identical to that shown in the picture and mirror being approached. He's saying when you jump into a mirror, you can be in a reverse world. Right when you come out like a portal. And I've done this, by the way. I'll talk about it. No, no, sorry, sorry, I'm reading the.

[David Lee Corbo]

Bro, you're not gonna talk about it?

[Seth Kicklighter]

No, he's okay right now. Sorry, I'm. They're connected. I'm talking about entering paintings. And then we're gonna do mirror, portal.

[David Lee Corbo]

The fuck is this, Super Mario 64?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, I know. Right, right. No, so he's about entering a painting. So he's saying. Sorry, I got sidetracked there. When you go. When you project, go towards the poster or painting, keeping your mind blank. Don't think about what you were doing. Just gaze into it and move towards it. That's hard. As right as you approach in this, in this way, your subconscious mind will be tricked into creating an astral realm exactly like the poster. Just move up into the poster. It's like stepping into another world. Everything in this world will be exactly like in the poster. It will appear to be a normal three dimensional world world. An exact copy, indistinguishable from reality. To customize this world, this. Okay. To customize this world, cut and paste small pictures of things. People. Things are people you want to find in this world when you're there to enter it. If you cut out a small picture of someone Living or dead, your subconscious will create a thought form shell of them and they will be there waiting for you. This may be an excellent way of communicating with those who have died, but

[David Lee Corbo]

it's not your subconscious that's creating them.

[Seth Kicklighter]

That's what they rather you believe. Believe because thought forms or, or that you're contacting a real entity. He says both can happen. He says either your subconscious will create it totally on, you know, entity hijacked into you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Or it might be the real person. So he literally says, cut out pictures and put it on a poster and you'll go find that person there. That's some scary.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's crazy.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You know how you go to a

[David Lee Corbo]

girl's room when you're like a teenager, you're dating a chick and she's got like an image board where she's cut out all these celebrities and pasted them onto some and she's going to sleep looking at that thing. Yeah. She's probably astral projected into some fake generated demonic realm filled with celebrities. That's crazy.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And it's showing the capabilities more really, and the control they have. And then he talks about mirror portals, which he says, avoid windows and mirrors during real time projections. Which means before you go into realms, when you're in the real world, floating around real world. But it's, it's also fake.

[David Lee Corbo]

Why would they do. Why would you do that? You get trapped in them.

[Seth Kicklighter]

No, I'm getting there. All right. So he says, as well as any other highly reflective surfaces, Even still water that is reflecting the sky passing through a reflection can shift you out of a real time and into a mirror image world, into an anomaly. This is in principle very much like how virtual reality projection works. Once inside an anomaly, it can be difficult to return to the true real time zone without returning to the physical body. Use walls, ceilings and doors wherever possible to maintain the real time aspect of your projection. Even looking into a mirror or reflection is a potential hindrance to the integrity of a real time projection. Projection. It is very easily easy to unintentionally slip into a reflection without noticing the shift out of real time into an anomalous copy of it. I thought this was when I read it. He's just making up now. So I try it when I go out of body and I'm like, this is gonna be hilarious.

[David Lee Corbo]

I like. He goes there, he's like, I don't believe this one aspect myself for my body.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So I go and do that and I have a big mirror in my room where I'm Doing this. I'm like, perfect. So I go and jump into it, not even thinking it'll happen. But I already have the idea in my mind. Mind. And the expectation, yeah, that in mind. I already consented in that sense. Not that you really need any extra consent when you're going out of body. So I went through that mirror, dude. And instead of. I thought I was going to go outside through the. Through the wall and be outside my house, but I go through that thing and come out as if I just went through a portal and I'm in a reverse image. Exactly copy realm. And I've instantly. It's like a weird feeling like. Because you're like what? Like everything just turns off. And I'm in this room all the time. So I'm thinking it just gave me the darkest vibes. And I get real scared instantly. You know, they're jacking and making me scared because I never get scared. Scared, obviously.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right. Until they start jacking or not exactly get jacked in. When they start jacking in you.

[Top Lobster]

Do you think. You think that you were in this realm because you read about that or is that just.

[David Lee Corbo]

Is that a literal principle?

[Seth Kicklighter]

If I didn't have the idea in mind and know about it, it might have not happened.

[David Lee Corbo]

But it.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But since I had the expectation they were like, it, we'll do it. Why not?

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And they wanted to prove to me it was true. I would believe everything else he says.

[David Lee Corbo]

Toy Joe says, this sounds like why Indians don't want their pictures taken. And it is interesting though because I was thinking about that the other day. I have a Polaroid. That's crazy thing now. Now. And when we went camping, I was taking pictures of my family. And there's something a little bit more special about having a little physical Polaroid. And. But I was looking at it and it was like so reminiscent of the polaroids of the 90s, you know, the physical pictures of the 90s. And I was like, there is something spooky about this. And then I remembered like, yeah, Native Americans don't like having their pictures taken because they think that a piece of your soul stays behind in it or something. I think it's retarded and drunk.

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Top Lobster]

Well, we have to talk about that.

[Seth Kicklighter]

That's a good point.

[Top Lobster]

Could be.

[David Lee Corbo]

Could be retarded and drunk.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So I did that whole thing and I went through it and I immediately. My thoughts that are running through my head. I freak out because I'm getting like anxiety now. I'm astral panicking. And I'm thinking, wait, if I go into my. I see my body, reverse body. I'm like, if I go into that guy, am I going to come out crippled and gay and maybe right handed? Because I'm left handed.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, man.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I was like, like. And I was like, do I have to start, you know, cheating on my girlfriend at the time with a slightly different woman? Like, who's like.

[David Lee Corbo]

I was also left handed.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Exactly. And. And all these thoughts are going through my head and I go back through the mirror, come back into the normal realm and I jump into my body. I was like, that was a close one, guys. Almost got lost.

[David Lee Corbo]

So do you think a layer of deceptive perception, like you didn't have to backtrack out of that mirror. You didn't have to.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I don't know. I could have gone back to my body probably fine.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm obviously trying to find out though.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But I don't know if they would have allowed it. They might have just not let me go in. Because it's not.

[Commercial Announcer]

Not.

[Seth Kicklighter]

They're creating the projection. It couldn't. You know what I'm saying?

[David Lee Corbo]

It's not working. You got to go back to the mirror.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And I went. Yeah, exactly. So that's what I did. And I was so scared I was going to be trapped in this reverse image universe. It was the most thought. It's gone through my head, all that.

[David Lee Corbo]

I love how horrifying. Slightly backward is. That's why toad is so off putting. Yeah, yeah. No, but just going into a place that's like the same Candy Valley, but just different in that way that it's mirrored is like, I can't be here. I can't be here. Please don't let me be here. That's interesting.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You're gonna love this next one I turn. I call this one I turned you into grass and you ate that up.

[David Lee Corbo]

And that's the name of the chapter.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It's a sub chapter. There's like sub.

[Cole Swindell]

Okay.

[David Lee Corbo]

Got you guys a ton of them.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I organized the book Very well. Except my whole presentation's out of order as well.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, I. I couldn't tell.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I put it. Thank you.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's very good.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So he says, this is Bob. No, Leland.

[Top Lobster]

This is Bob.

[Seth Kicklighter]

This is Leland. He says, as if in an unusually vivid dream, I became a single blade of grass. A strong wind blows me this way and that. I feel exhilarated all at once. I beat. This is. I know it's gay as hell.

[David Lee Corbo]

I just love you. Like, hey, turn. Turn him into grass. Turn him into grass right now. That sucks.

[Seth Kicklighter]

What's next? Single self organism. So he says. All at once, I became aware that I'm surrounded by millions of other grass blades. I make. And I make a startling realization. I can simultaneously maintain an awareness of myself as a single blade of grass grass and as a multitude of grass blades. Borg. Borg. Normalization. Yet my unique beingness has a precise location within the vast tapestry of grass that surrounds me. Very good. The Overseer says, you learn quickly. We've designed a set of images and sensations in order to illustrate certain aspects of the human condition. He says, our intention is to show you how the evolution of human consciousness looks from our perspective. Because if you subscribe to reincarnation. We came from grass. Maybe rocks before that. And then you're in a bee and then you're in a bird.

[Top Lobster]

Right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And then you're in a dolphin. And then you go back to a cockroach. And then you go up. Up to an elephant if you're lucky.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. You could screw up and go back to.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, you go back. You downgrade.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Maybe not actually. But they push that whole thing. Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

And that's what they believe in. In the Vedic system.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's like all of that idea, if you really mess up, you don't get your karma right in this one. You're gonna be a blade of grass again.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah. Well, usually you don't downgrade from. But some people push that. So the thing is they. They push the lore in all sorts of different areas. They don't have to be cohesive.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Because you subscribe to whatever you want to. To. People will pick and choose what they like. And then they don't think people are going to cross reference these.

[David Lee Corbo]

And they give you like this really big impression that is unique to you. So then it doesn't. There's no talking you down off that.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Off that ledge. Okay, so he's grass. And I'm gonna not read excerpts because it's too much. But I'm gonna skip through and just say that this happened. And then he gets turned into a bee. And he feels the sensations. He has the impressions. He goes to a beehive. He's hanging out with bees. It feels like you're a bee.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Like it's that detail.

[David Lee Corbo]

We was bees.

[Seth Kicklighter]

We was bees.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And then he. After that, they turned him into a. Where the hell was it? He's a B. Then he's a raspberry, which is a kind of a downgrade. And then he's a human gardener in the garden, interacting with all these multiple things.

[Top Lobster]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And then. So that's what happens to Leland. And then Bob, which. I'm not going to talk about it in detail, but he talks about the same thing where he's metaphysically transported by his guy to the year 3000 to hang out with his buddies in the future. And the whole year 3000 thing is a crazy rabbit hole, which we're not going to get into. Sorry. And then he talks about how he got turned into a. Not turned into, but like his friends made him experience the lives. Same thing. Okay, as a leaf and then a panther and then a bird. And it all felt real, as far as you can imagine.

[David Lee Corbo]

So do you think when people are having it, like, I. When I did mushrooms, I had an experience where, like, oh, I could just sense this connectivity to all, you know, living things.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, the. The drug. Yeah. They downloaded heavy of you on drugs.

[David Lee Corbo]

A minor version of that, yes.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It's the. They're implanting the. They're planting the seed in your head as much as they can. Hallucinations might be guided by them as well. People get past life memories. Memories.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

On these drugs, if you're. Now you're consenting with a sort of a ritual when you're taking drugs. So I don't think you're gonna be protected by angels necessarily.

[David Lee Corbo]

Little poop fungus area, so.

[Top Lobster]

Well, that.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's why.

[Top Lobster]

That's why it is like a ritualization. Especially the ayahuasca trips. They do their whole ceremony before you do this.

[Seth Kicklighter]

All the initiates are doing psychedelics.

[David Lee Corbo]

I didn't do like a whole ceremony, and I didn't go in with this huge intent. And so I got like this really minor version of like, oh, I'm all connected in some kind of way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I hear that all the time. Like, I just understood what universal love is all about. I'm like, that's gay and lame. Stop it. We're moving on. Now, this is. This is a fun one. This is where Bob, in his. I think Third book talks about his focus levels and he basically breaks it down. Focus 10, 12, 15, 21, 22. They skip a couple numbers, but he describes these as different axises to consciousness realms.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It's crazy. I shouldn't have. I should have went right into it. Yeah, you got to do it right next time.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's not my microphone. So you can burp into that one.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Okay. Yeah. So he describes his focus levels and when you get to focus 27 he describes us as the park or reception center. A human created beautiful non physical area where guides help newly deceased people and where advanced explorers out of body travelers build their own spaces. It's the hub of Monroe's later work. Now this is.

[David Lee Corbo]

Sounds like the hill.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It could be, but it. I don't want to say that for sure but I'm. We'll maybe get to that later.

[David Lee Corbo]

They put the non verbal autistic kids in their own section and you have to minimize the stimuli. So it's literally just a hill.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It's like these guys.

[Top Lobster]

These guys smell like

[Seth Kicklighter]

they don't get any billings.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, you don't want to give them too much.

[Seth Kicklighter]

They'll freak out. So this is a quote from the book about it. And he says each individual is. Each individual is invited to create his own personal and special place within focus 27.

[David Lee Corbo]

Face yourself.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, it's a. It's Mormon heaven is create your own universe. It's near your own God. So it's a place. Quote.

[David Lee Corbo]

A place you can pull that thing but grab that thing.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I'm grabbing it. Yeah, bring it on.

[David Lee Corbo]

I just gotta make sure that you grab it. If you fist yourself, you know, and then that's good.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, that feels right. Okay, so focus 27. A place which the traveler may return at will. The forms of these places take are as varied and unique as the participants themselves. Ranging from log cabins by quiet streams to clumps of trees. South sea islands. Palaces of crystal. Lame. And something of corners of one is heart that looked like an M. Anyway,

[David Lee Corbo]

Palaces of Chris sounds very like.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Well, you know when people get alien planet past life memories when they're on an alien planet they talk about palaces of Chris Crystal.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah. Interesting, huh? So. And they talk about how great it was in the society was amazing and everything's perfect.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's a great way to like fool humans into thinking something super advanced is like you like a couch, see through, make it out of crystal.

[Seth Kicklighter]

No problem.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's like that's an advanced couch.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

You like a building, make it out of crystal. Advanced building.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

What is Dubai?

[Seth Kicklighter]

So a following quote in the same section says the guidance may be requested according to our participants. Participants in many different forms. It may appear externally or sensed internally. It may be constant through all the experiences or may change from time to time. Reports include mention of a glowing white shape, an individual called Sam, a hooded figure who revealed himself as a famous film star, a little dog, the color blue, a human hand, and voices saying, we are here. Some participants do not see Guidance as separate from themselves in any way. Guidance and I are one, as one reports says, saying that while they're in this created, fabricated world where they can make whatever they want, it's your. It's your lucid dream world. You also always have an entity present guiding you.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's interesting.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You're never alone.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, that's what I was looking for. I'm like, looking for a Sam the Blue man, but instead I've got a black guy who plays blues. Oh, there is Sam the Blue Eagle from the Muppets. What is that we are here thing?

[Top Lobster]

Reminds me of that Dr. Seuss book, Horton Hears a who.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Tiny. Impressive. It's a great story. He's probably on shrooms, too.

[David Lee Corbo]

Peak Dr. Seuss. All right, all right, all right, all right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

We moving. We got the. Yeah. So the reason I'm talking about that is he goes there. Monroe visits somebody else's personal created world, right? And it's his friend Charlie who died, and it's totally him and not a demon portraying a vision of Charlie. Oh, no. So he goes there, and he's hanging out with Charlie. And his. Charlie is. He doesn't want to reincarnate yet. He's like, I don't care about all that. I'm just gonna hang out my own dream world. Why wouldn't I? And it's. It's all, you know, personal pleasure, whatever you want, whenever you want.

[David Lee Corbo]

So he's just chilling. He's having a good time.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He's having a good time. And he's got a thought form wife. And I have a page and a half big excerpt as a. I'm doing a commercial, and it's a fake little comedic bit about it. It's very up. So I gotta buy the book to get that, but it's hilarious.

[David Lee Corbo]

That does sound like something. They made a bad sitcom book.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Got commercials. Commercials in it. Yeah. Like fake little bits. Like comedic bits.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, all right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

They're a little cringy sometimes, but usually they're kind of fun.

[David Lee Corbo]

I like that. Lean into the cringe show.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I know sometimes I wrote this thing really fast and on accelerated rate. It's crazy.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's insane that you. I've been trying to write a book. I got three pages in, and I haven't picked it up in.

[Seth Kicklighter]

In a long time. I spent like 60 hours a week on it for eight months straight with almost no breaks. So I cut down my work hours just so I could finish it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Is that what it takes to write a book?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Well, I. I went crazy and I wrote a long book, and it's actually 600 pages if you have regular size 4 font. So maybe 550.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, what the hell?

[Seth Kicklighter]

I gotta flex on y'.

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[Seth Kicklighter]

I got to.

[David Lee Corbo]

And I made the fonts, like, super

[Seth Kicklighter]

big fit it without making it two volumes, and I was like, I gotta shrink it. Old people.

[David Lee Corbo]

You have a book, but then you've got a book of notes.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Well, I wanted to do this thing right, man. I know you guys are deflowering me on air.

[Top Lobster]

I got crazy.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It's gonna. This. Listen, we're not even on the second half, man. We're. Well, we're. I gotta move faster.

[David Lee Corbo]

Guys, you gotta please stop interrupting us. Okay?

[Seth Kicklighter]

This one's creepy as. Okay, this one is so messed up. I don't like it, but it's funny. All right, so Bob is describing that. I'm trying to summarize it, right? He's talking to his godhead, His. His higher self, right? And they're talking to him and being like, you're the last final piece to our collection. Like, you're the one who's gonna figure it out. He's like, figure what out? And they're basically telling he's got to find a new, like, universe, alternate reality or planet, whatever, to find a new species to incarnate. It's up to him.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's special. Yeah. Yeah. And he said.

[Seth Kicklighter]

They even tell him. They're like, there's another you incarnated right now. You're sharing a soul with someone incarnated right now on the Earth, and she's our backup plan. But you're the real one. They even say that y. You know, he got blabbed for sure. So he's saying that. So they're telling him that he needs to do all this stuff, and he's getting like, this is a lot of pressure on. Yeah, there's a lot of pressure on my astral shoulders right now. And they're like, no, no, we'll calm you down. It's okay, baby. Come here. Yeah, so they do some Wawa stuff. And they say, we can help you with that. We can show you a sample of the support you have here, here in our own cluster. Do you wish to see this? And before I go on. This is his godhead, which is a culmination of. They claim over a thousand incarnations of Bob in the past and future because they're outside of time.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's so crazy.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He goes, how many of there. Yeah, one point has. How many of there are you in there? They go, we stopped counting after a thousand. Shut the up.

[David Lee Corbo]

You can know.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You know everything. You can't give me a number that's. So that's a rounded off fake number.

[David Lee Corbo]

They're asking him for his consent too. Do you want to know which?

[Seth Kicklighter]

They don't need to ask. Yeah, it's additional. Yeah, it's a dish.

[David Lee Corbo]

It sounds. Riding a dog.

[Top Lobster]

It sounds like Rick and Morty. This just sounds like Rick and Morty. Yeah. What you're describing, like, nothing really makes sense. It's all kind of like loose around the edges.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's super sci fi.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Super sci fi.

[Top Lobster]

It's fun.

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[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, it's fun.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, I had a fun time with this stuff.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's fun. All right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So they're. They're saying, we're going to show you a shamble, a shampoo, a sample of our support. So they're going to show him a vision that is their support. And it's creepy as hell. So he's like, do you wish to see this? He goes, please. And he. This is him describing the vision. And he. He says it weirdly and loosely with like dots in between them. So it's like different thoughts. So just keep in mind. It's weird. Thousands of hands reaching out to touch me Me eyes staring at me with joy and hope. Overwhelming radiance I know is love sweeping over me into every part of my being. All of these I am, we are and emotion. From the bittersweet smell of success to the pain of parting mixed with fun and laughter. The anger of ignorance, the blindness of belief without foundation. The beauty, the sound of singing voices. And then his godhead says, does that help you? He goes, it does. Is there more?

[David Lee Corbo]

Damn, bro. Already? So they just hit him with the bukkake?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Of everything, dude.

[Seth Kicklighter]

They Literally gave him this. It's just creepy, man. Like, I get there, they have nothing, thousands of hands. They're showing him a vision of like all his little like their. His Borg is all collected together in a little like wormy barrel. And they're like, hey, we love you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Once you consolidate all these thousands of use, you get to come.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Non physical, I guess.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, you're gonna get to come. That's crazy. That's so crazy too. How simple are we where it's like, you're special. Don't you want to come? Like, yeah, dude, please let me score it. I just need to score. Oh my God.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And we're moving. So I call this section. Bob has defeated God, which is, you know, a big and you know, false statement of course.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But he basically, not much later, after this event that I just talked about, Bob is hanging out in the astral when, you know, doing his thing unaccompanied apparently. And he is suddenly unable to travel or move. And he's frozen in place.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay, okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Which is a very meta sleep paralysis thing going on. And he hears a voice in his head which is described as cold and admontary.

[David Lee Corbo]

Which, you know, what does that mean?

[Seth Kicklighter]

That's what he says. And I'm assuming it just means like

[David Lee Corbo]

cold and, you know, emotionless maybe.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, like just kind of a dick. But not like emotionally like intense, just.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah. That's almost indifferent.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say that. Okay, so this is God, apparently, God or entity claiming to be God, saying, I am the Lord thy God, whom you serve. Pulling the thighs out. Very kjv. I like it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah. That is a great way of like, really?

[Seth Kicklighter]

You're like, well, this must be the guy.

[David Lee Corbo]

Literally. No, there's no way you can just make that up.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, no one talks like that. So he says. He's describing it loosely again, like the last vision. And he says, a feeling of intense pressure, as if I am dissolving now. I am water in water. My lungs are full of water. I must have air. Get rid of the water. No, it can't be. It isn't so. There is no water. I have no lungs. I am being made to think this is where I am. It is an influence. I know it is not. So the pressure releases. I can feel feel. I can feel fingers of energy probing. Okay. For the core of me. I can stop this close. The receptors close tight. I remember how. And then God says, you do not remember. You do not remember. He screams it. He's screaming and God's looking like A little right now, yeah. Not really, but.

[David Lee Corbo]

Not really.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah. I'm sorry. And he says, but I do. I remember the tests. They were so real. I am ready for this demanding energy. It cannot harm me. But what is this? This? What God can this be? It cannot harm or affect me. You're in an astral headlock. What are you talking about? So then he's saying, God says, do you not accept me as your God? And he goes, the idea of a God that threatens amuses me. I let this idea flow out. God says, do you not fear me? I really. And then he says, bob, I release a picture of me blowing apart again and again into a million fragments and reconstructing after every explosion. Okay. And then God says, you are damned. You are no more than wasted energy of me who is your Lord. Lord. And then Bob says, or narration. The energy fades to a tiny point and vanishes. He just defeated God.

[Top Lobster]

What?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Without? So far, but I got a lot to go.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Goodbye. Matt. Matt. Bye, man. He offered to sit down, but we also. I don't know how to select an additional camera from this vantage point.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He gets in my lap. I don't mind.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's a really straight. It feels like a psychedelic experience. Periods.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Well, dude, this whole thing, and this is to remind people, this is the level of detail they're capable effortlessly of.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's what you were talking about earlier, where it's like people that don't think you were saying this off camera, people that don't think these things can, like, present to you an image of Jesus.

[Seth Kicklighter]

They think, even Christians believe, a lot of them, that the astral is real and that you're just not supposed to go there. It's like, no, it's fake. And if it's real, then it doesn't coincide with biblical cosmology whatsoever. So you have to keep that in mind.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's fascinating.

[Seth Kicklighter]

They just don't know about it because they're not reading these books like my dumbass did. So, yeah, he basically. Quickly. Now, why does releasing this mental fart make God disappear? God of the universe, apparently. Now, this is not. I'm not going to cover other ones probably, but this is not the only time in the book where they go through an elaborate means to make you think less of God and try to paint.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's exactly what it sounds like just happened there.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yes. And also, he sounds pathetic as hell the way they're making him portray. Yeah, and he's. Bob's batting a thousand. Nothing can hurt him.

[David Lee Corbo]

Bob sounds Like a pathetic self assured, though.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, but he's. You know, he. He has. Has a. He would disagree with you. Of course. Now this is. This is part of their bad press campaign for God. Not that they believe God is the true God. They think there's other gods above him. You know, they. Sophia. But it's funny that they're. They're still trying to defame him in many ways. And they do it a lot. And this is in many elaborate ways. And one I really want to get to. The crab walkers, but we're not going to do that right now.

[David Lee Corbo]

The crab walk?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Don't get me started. It's just in my title. Crabs.

[David Lee Corbo]

Fine.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Okay, so we're gonna move on. That one sounds crazy.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, we got through a page. The front page.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It gets quicker in a way, but. Okay, it doesn't in other ways. I'm sorry, but I promise it's worth it.

[David Lee Corbo]

It is both slow and fast.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Simultaneously.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, I'm sure. So this one I call memory theft in the astral hot tub. So this is where Leland is going through the astral. And he's in this healing center. And in the healing center, there's nice things like a spa. Okay, astral spa.

[Top Lobster]

Nice.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Where there's astral water on your astral body that's heated up in the astral, you know, whatever. Yeah, but some of it's sometimes physical. It's weird. So he's. He's in this area and then he says he sees this ghost they call Shades. He sees this ghost and she's reliving her past life memories and he gets sucked into it. So he says a shade was seated by the side of the plunge. She was unaware of my presence, yet I had no trouble reading her thoughts. She was about to go back into the memories of a particular time in her life. Life. Apparently, the function of the spa region was to give Shades an opportunity to heal themselves by remembering difficult events and figuring out why they occurred. Somehow I accompanied the woman into her memories with. With both of us, which both of us experienced as if they were happening right now for the first time. And he's reliving it just like it's a powerful. His own experience. And all he had to do was be near her. She didn't initiate it. She doesn't know he's there, he says. And he gets pulled in. And was guided there the whole time. Obviously in construction. But.

[David Lee Corbo]

So then to me, it seems reasonable that she doesn't exist in any meaningful way.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Or she's, you know, a demon casted. As a character. But either way, they can see it's the same. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Same function as a painting.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

On the wall is. Is what she serves, essentially. Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And gets him. And guess what? Boom. Instant transfer to this past life memory that he's reliving of hers. So. But it feels like his own. That's that it's so. It's so powerful. Powerful. And that keeps in mind when people have past life memories, oh, they felt so real. I just knew. And I'm like, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

But that doesn't dawn on him that this feels so real that it puts.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He's been doing this for years with the same group of guides. It's. He's trust them. Man, that's crazy. Experiencing consciousness. It's not weird.

[David Lee Corbo]

It just seems like a guy that would come to the conclusion at least to ask the reasonable question of if this feels so convincing, what do I make of the other things that I thought were actually my own past life?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Well, that would require realizing your entire years of dedication to this practice. Practice is actually evil and highly elaborately deceptive. Not a good pill to, you know,

[David Lee Corbo]

swallow after 10 years. Yeah. Or whatever the hell it is.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Okay, but we're gonna go to page 140. Oh, this is a good one. So Bob. We're back to Bob, and he is hanging out with his godhead, you know, his thousand other selves.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah. Nothing better than just hanging out with a thousand use that would suck. Be being in a room of a thousand mes. And they're all going, multitudes. The multitudes of us.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Let's chant in unison. Yeah. So before I'm gonna read that quote, though, basically his. His godhead is offering him. There's like one person in the godhead that comes out and is like a representative and they can swap. So there's one of the people that was his past life coming out, and then they swap and a new one comes out, and it's Ashenin. And Ashenin is the name that his guide referred to Bob as earlier. Black. A monk. So probably black. Yes.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So basically he was told earlier in the book, oh, you used to be ashen in a past life. And he was a monk, and he was like the most spiritually advanced version of you. So he's cool. So they're referring to him as his coolest self, saying, Bob, you're not quite up there.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's so crazy. Yeah, it was like the other ones came before you. They were better than you. So he, by the way, pretty much jerked him off in the previous One. When a thousand of him. I was just going back to that thing where it's like. Like, you know, the multitudes of hymns started rubbing his body and. And I don't know if.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, you might have missed that one.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, you weren't here for that. I think you were here for that. And. And. And, you know, it is gay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yes.

[David Lee Corbo]

But they're. They're basically saying, like, you have a mission and it should. You do. Well, is masturbation gay? I suppose if. If it's done.

[Seth Kicklighter]

If I film it and someone's watching or anything like that. Probably, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, if you're touching dick. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

But if you're touching your own, what

[Seth Kicklighter]

are you thinking about? Out.

[David Lee Corbo]

It depends on what you like more. Holding your dick. It depends on which part of the process you like more. Okay. Please continue.

[Seth Kicklighter]

No, you're good. No, I'm a fan. So he's. So now Ashenine, his cooler version self in the Godhead rotates out. He's talking to that guy. Yeah. So that guy pretty much immediately says, hey. And I'm not quoting verbatim, but he says, hey, do you want any, like, spiritual abilities besides going out of body? And Bob is like. Like, go. He literally basically says, no, I think I'm good. I got enough going on with the actual stuff. And that's true. He got. He's got plenty going on. He don't need more. And I respect that. He's like. He's not all powerful, you know, in that sense. He don't want all that. But then that character, the ashen Bob Godhead, says immediately, we did not believe those were needed. Okay, why? You ask? And then he. He says, but if you want one of us to use your body and talk while you go somewhere else, just relax and go to sleep.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, God possess you.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah. He just asked him flat out, and he says, if you want, by the way, just go to sleep. And. And he. They asked for consent because to get fully possessed, you do need to consent directly to it. That is clear. And hostage to the Devil by Malachi Martin. The Greatest Book of All Time, maybe. No, like this.

[Top Lobster]

This is their M.O.

[Seth Kicklighter]

yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Angels or these entities. It's always like, yo, let me borrow your coat.

[David Lee Corbo]

So you're special. You have a mission. Then they jerk you off and get you sleepy. And then they're like, hey, we can take it from here. Here.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And they're laughing at you the whole time, which is sad.

[David Lee Corbo]

Turn them into a piece of grass.

[Top Lobster]

There's a thing where they cross a line.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Homeless people Behavior. Yeah. That's what they're exhibiting here. Like, let me hold that.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And it's like, hold what? My body?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Yeah. You must be sleepy. You just got jerked off by a thousand use. You know how exhausting it is being grass. Take a bath, take a breather. Have a nap. Have a. Have a nap. Apparently that's dangerous.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Well, I gotta be careful.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right, don't nap. You can't nap.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, so I didn't finish that one. So they asked him to possess him. They just said, go to sleep and just let us know. And then he goes. Bob says, no, I don't want to be a channel. That's not a route to freedom as I see it. Which is the nicest letdown to being at.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, look, I know you want to enter me.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And they're basically like, you know, I'll do anything. I'll for you, bro. Just go to sleep. I'll take your. I'll come back. I'll wipe good. I'll wipe it real good. I'm sure they're saying, you know, know. Yeah, well, I'm all about it, bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, you gotta have a bidet. You can't just.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, yeah, that's right.

[Top Lobster]

I'm pro.

[David Lee Corbo]

We don't have a bidet here at the shop. We should get one.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Gotta get clean, bro.

[Top Lobster]

We'll work on that.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

If we write that down, I think we're done with the out of body chapter, but we're gonna move to stuff correlated to it heavily. And I talked to you about this a bit earlier.

[David Lee Corbo]

Don't forget, fist yourself.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

I just put every once in a while, the comments they want to hear you get louder.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So, you know, oh, well, I'll just start yelling too.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's. Whatever.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So now we're over the chauffeur.

[David Lee Corbo]

They're doing.

[Top Lobster]

They're doing construction. They're building a dentist office over there.

[Seth Kicklighter]

The devil's at work to stop this from getting out.

[David Lee Corbo]

I thought it was. I thought it was them blowing the horn this whole time.

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[David Lee Corbo]

I was like, hey, shut up.

[Seth Kicklighter]

All right, so we're going to my literal Nightmare Fuel chapter, which is the dream hijacking stuff.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And I talk a lot about Vicki Joe Anderson and her working here. Shout out Vicki, love you.

[David Lee Corbo]

She corrected.

[Seth Kicklighter]

She's, she's literally, she's very nice. She started my book. I don't know if she made it far but she's, she's very supportive and I'm taking her work here. This is not my work. But she talks about the fabricated room scenario in her dream hijacking stuff where she's getting sleep paralysis. And she says she's interviewed tons of people who've had the same experience. Not just her, but she's had maybe thousands of experiences over like her decades of her life. And she talks about the scenario where you get sleep paralysis and you're in a. You're witnessing shadow people hat man stuff of that nature. Maybe aliens for some people. You'll see a lot of apparitions doing a lot of impossible things and you'll feel the choking sensation or the being sat on sensation which is, you know, obnoxious to be sat on. Yeah, but they describe feeling choked, all this stuff. And that's a thing that millions of people probably have described or at least hundreds of thousands. There's testimonies everywhere.

[David Lee Corbo]

They said I'm very real thing.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I've had it a handful of times back when I was hanging out with demons like our retard. But you know, we're back, we're back, we're back and we're better, we're healed. So Anderson talks about how they. She believes because she believes that they are fabricating this false room that you think you're waking up and seeing this apparition but really you're dreaming still. Still. And they recreated the dream room to look exactly like your room. That's all discrepancies though. And then they hack. They can have more conscious control over your sensations.

[David Lee Corbo]

What do you think is about? Or do they just.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I'm gonna get into that. So no, I don't think they suck. Well, I do, but not in that way.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right. Not at making room.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So what I think because people go, oh well a window might be a few feet away from where it's supposed to be or an object in the room that's not supposed to be there, is there or a color will be different. Stuff like that, like slightly, slight, slight subtle differences. But everything else is perfect. Now keep in mind in this state you're in fear and it's usually dark and you can't see much. But after having a ton of them, she's witnessed enough instances. So I don't think, I think Joy

[David Lee Corbo]

Anderson high level pattern recognizer yes, she

[Top Lobster]

has to be careful with that.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah. That leads dangerous in this country.

[Top Lobster]

So Florida specifically.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Right. So. So that happens. And she believes this based on the discrepancies that other people described in her. So it seems pretty verifiable to be the same thing. Thing is simulation crafting.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right, okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

That I talk about throughout the book. So it's the same.

[David Lee Corbo]

We go into the mansion. You know, it is like people will have this dream where the mansion made of like a bunch of different rooms and there's a bunch of different going on. It's almost like. It's almost like a.

[Seth Kicklighter]

With different doorways to different areas. Yeah, I would say it's the same thing. It's just they create. They can create it as looking as anything they want. So the mansion thing is just a, you know, is a device to take you to different areas.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Top Lobster]

So his house.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Regarding the. Regarding the. A fabricated room scenario. So I think sleep paralysis, demons and these visualizations, I'm not saying nothing can manifest physically. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying I think a lot of them, if not the majority of sleep paralysis. When you're having these visions of things, you are asleep. And that's what she says. This is her thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

I would agree with that.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And you're. But you feel like you're awake and it's real and you just can't move your body. But you feel sensations that are indistinguishable from real. So just if anybody's experienced that, that's how you know you can know. Okay, well that's crazy that they have.

[David Lee Corbo]

That people have dreams. When you get hurt in your dream

[Seth Kicklighter]

and it hurts like.

[David Lee Corbo]

Hey, Hill.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yes, right.

[David Lee Corbo]

So it's like, why wouldn't.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It doesn't always, but it can. So they have. I think it's selective control. Now, are the discrepancies in the room, are they off? Because they're bad at recreating the room perfectly and they're just not quite detail oriented in every way. With everything else we've seen here, I don't think that's the case. I think it's a. I think it's a legality thing. They have to leave clues and they have. They already leave enough clues in the astral as we're picking up here, they're playing in your face. But when it comes to the dream stuff, I think they have to leave clues so that you have a shot of seeing it as a deception. Because if there's no chance of you seeing it as deception because it's so perfect, then it's not really fair. And I think this is completely against free will. Yeah. And also if you're not going out of body and doing divination and you're just a victim to harassment at this point, you. That's also a form of protection in a way. Oh, we'll leave clues because they have to. I don't know if it changes with different people who've given away their consents too much maybe. But for people like her who's, you know, saved Christian and holy Spirit and endowed and all that stuff. Stuff, you would imagine she has some level of protection which is true if her testimonies are true.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So I think that's a big deal and totally matches up. And it's the same mechanism. Out of body, dream, past life memories, doesn't matter. It's all connected.

[David Lee Corbo]

That really throws into flux then all the alien abduction stuff because there are.

[Seth Kicklighter]

There is actual abductions. Yes. And physical.

[David Lee Corbo]

There's a. Yeah, there's a. There's a small margin for like people getting implants and things like that or like the pregnation thing for. For Karen Wilkinson. But it sounds to me like it happens far and few in between and that mostly this is going to happen in the astral realm that they've created.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You know, I don't want to put numbers on it, but I think it's could be half and half. But I think a lot of physical is going on and I'm team meat suit theory, you know.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, I think there's definitely room for that. I just don't know how many.

[Seth Kicklighter]

The. The hybrid children thing is the element. And now are they creating that whole lore and fabricating it to create a device of literal aliens? It's. I think it's possible. I'm not going to say I lean on it. I lean on towards literal abductions, but they have the ability to fabricate these fake abductions. So realistically, when people get regressed memory memories of their abduction memories, are they hijacked? I think they can be. And I think there's discrepancies with the methodology. Like David Jacobs has a more tight methodology than other people in lighter trance states, the deeper trance states. I don't trust those at all. If they're pushing new age stuff too much, it could be aliens on board telling them new age stuff. Or it could be a completely fabricated thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

You don't know who you said Vicki Joy Anderson. Who are some other people you think has have a good handle analysis?

[Seth Kicklighter]

I love fringe.

[David Lee Corbo]

Fringe is great.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Fringe is amazing. I think she's. She's. I send her messages occasionally. She's very nice and we talk about these things. Who else do I love?

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[David Lee Corbo]

I. Look, it's a short list. Struggling.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I know. I like you guys a lot. Not biased at all.

[David Lee Corbo]

I wasn't fishing for that, but I'll take it.

[Seth Kicklighter]

No, I had to put it out there. Who else do I listen to? Oh, I. I mean, I. I watched the confessionals. I love Tony Merkel. I think he's a little bit too trusting and nice like people like Dan Duvall. Other than that, I think his analysis is pretty good. I like the guy who just went on confessionals. Jamie W. Oh, yeah, Walden.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's been.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He's great.

[David Lee Corbo]

Finally finished that episode today, actually.

[Seth Kicklighter]

No, I think too, it's great.

[David Lee Corbo]

There's a. There's another one.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, that's right.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's right. I gotta listen to that. So I listen to my public one

[Seth Kicklighter]

and I was like, this dude, that guy's on it.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's not like he's saying anything that a lot of us aren't saying. He has an excellent delivery method.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh.

[David Lee Corbo]

He says it in such a way that you can have. Have average people, normies listen to that. And it would plant so many great seeds. I'm not saying they would get it all at once because it's a lot to take in all at once. But the seeds that he plants are fantastic.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, it's like a. Not polished, but delivered extremely well.

[David Lee Corbo]

Extremely well. He's got a great thousand foot overview on it. Some people are in the minutiae of a thing, you know, I don't think we're so much minutia guys. Maybe a little bit more than others,

[Top Lobster]

but I'd say like color commentary.

[Seth Kicklighter]

We're colorful.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Technically speaking. No, no.

[Top Lobster]

You have a play by play left right hook, you know.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And then you have the color and the color is kind of like.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Describing the characteristics and fun stuff like, that's my job. That's kind of what we're doing here. And then some other guys are more play by play. He was doing a very good play by play kind of thing, but walk me through it. But listen, some people are at where they're at because they're really good.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

All right.

[Top Lobster]

YouTube shows test.

[David Lee Corbo]

So four people. He likes four people. That's good.

[Seth Kicklighter]

All right, so let's. I got a shout out.

[David Lee Corbo]

I love that GU Hinton dude. Every time we talk about something on an episode, Nick Hinton ends up talking about it on his timeline. And I want to get him on the show. And he always says he'll come on the show.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He was just around here, I think.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, he's. He said he would come on in spring. I don't know when that's gonna happen, but recently we talked about, like, this International Spring spider. I don't ever. In Florida, the interdimensional spider sleep paralysis. We talked about that really badly. It was just like, I couldn't remember anything about it. Then, like that same week, he just comes out, out with thread after thread after thread after thread on these interdimensional spider creatures and Asmodeus and all this other crap. And I'm like, man, like, I want to talk to. But it's just. It's impossible to. To get him on one of these days.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He's on a spiritual journey. I respect it. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

He says basically he. He hit me up at one point not too long ago, and he was like, my. My pastor says I need to start going out and doing shows again, so I'm gonna come on. And I was like, doors open, dude. But, you know, now's the time.

[Seth Kicklighter]

The time is now. You know, doesn't seem like there's a lot of time left.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, better. It was my opinion.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I'm all over that. But no, no worries there. Everything's got. Everything's good, guys.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, well, you know, on God's time. Right? So that's.

[Top Lobster]

That's pretty much it. If he came on earlier, the things

[David Lee Corbo]

we would have spoken to about him

[Top Lobster]

would have been juvenile.

[David Lee Corbo]

Honestly, the longer he takes, the better it is because it's just going to be more fascinating stuff to talk about. So.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Divine timing.

[David Lee Corbo]

Divine timing. Yeah. All right, so please continue.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So now we're going to move to the. I'm just doing quick little ones on the later chapters, but not heavy focus on them. The NDE chapter, which is called Near Death. Nonsense. Nonsense.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, that's Interesting.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I have. This section is called Welcoming Committee. So this is not a fan of Jimmy.

[Top Lobster]

What's his name?

[David Lee Corbo]

Jimmy Corsetti.

[Top Lobster]

Jimmy Akin.

[David Lee Corbo]

Who the is Jimmy Corsetti?

[Seth Kicklighter]

He's the. He's the comedian. No, he's. No, he's the guy who pushes the. Not the pyramid stuff as much, but the Atlantis was the eye of the Sahara thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He's big on that.

[Top Lobster]

Jimmy.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He's not spiritually aware of things.

[Top Lobster]

Jimmy's the guy with the hat. He does NDE stuff.

[David Lee Corbo]

I like him. He's nice. Nice guy.

[Top Lobster]

He was.

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[Seth Kicklighter]

Okay, well, my NDE hookup, who I'm plagiarizing here, but I'm giving credit, is Sean Tabit. And he talks about this on confessionals and other podcasts.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And he has a case study with Brian Melvin, which. Brian Melvin's case study of an NDE is where he was in this. He died. He went to this kind of like. I think he described it as like a childhood home of his. Okay. Where it looked. It had that like, peaceful childhood home vibe. And then he sees his loved ones there who are dead, and he's like, hanging out with them. They're like, hey, we're so happy to see you. It's so chilling.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And they're all vibing, and I don't know how long they start jerking him off. Yeah, they start jerking them off. And then he finishes and once he's done and they collect his sperm, then they go, okay, now for the twist. And then they. They instantly everything melts around them and it turns into a hellish atmosphere. I don't remember the details, but they

[Top Lobster]

really jerk him off. It's like a thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, dude, he just rolls at the punch. Just hit you with such a. A roll with the punch.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Because of Bob. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, dude, Bob, I've got.

[Seth Kicklighter]

All right.

[David Lee Corbo]

I knew where the deception was. He said afterwards came the twist, but everybody knows the twist happens before you go. All right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

If you're lucky.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

No, but. So. So it starts fading.

[David Lee Corbo]

Crazy.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It starts. I'm keeping it PG as hell. Relativity. It's crazy. Read the. Buy the book if you want the

[David Lee Corbo]

rated R. Read the Bible if you want me to not say these things.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, God, don't make me do that. All right, so he says these loved ones who seem all friendly and perfect transition. And the whole setting around him transitions instantly into. Into. He says they. He describes them as, quote, serpic, like demonic kind of creatures. And the childhood childhood home transformed into a poorly air conditioned Hell, my words. And then so basically. And then he gets resuscitated a bit after that and he's back. So think. So this Sean Tabit says this. He says, okay, well if that's the case, how many people are having NDEs and then getting resuscitated before the transition happened?

[David Lee Corbo]

That's a great question.

[Seth Kicklighter]

That's. That's crazy because there's a lot of new age promoting ones and some of them promote very biblical themes, which I by, you know, judging by the fruits, I don't think that's it. Yeah, I don't think demons will give a completely biblical nd to you. I really don't.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, no.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So I think, I think they have control over souls maybe who aren't saved.

[David Lee Corbo]

And that's Christ is there.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

And it's entirely biblical Christ.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like a pretty good.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Or they'll give you a different price.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah. They'll give you. If he shows up, he's got silver boots and he's got a blue suit

[Seth Kicklighter]

on and you got, if you got a top hat.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, you just, you said you saw

[David Lee Corbo]

like a. I did see Pleiadian multiplaying.

[Seth Kicklighter]

We gotta talk about that.

[Top Lobster]

One of my oldest dreams was seeing Jesus as he's entering, you know, you know, Palm Sunday. He's entering, they're throwing the palms in front of him before he gets crucified on a Duncan. And I look at him, I'm like, it's not Jesus. Like something about this dream. Like I was able to tell from afar. Just a spectator.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And it's just like, I wonder how many of those are. I mean, it's just, it's probably most of these experiences that are not coming from God.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I would say, I would say most. Just like anything in the. It sucks psychic information realm. It's. God is not going to be intrusive that much. He's going to do things to further his kingdom. Kingdom. And if it's just making you have a cool time or see something interesting and like I said, if you're seeking it by divination of any kind, it's demonic.

[David Lee Corbo]

What about those, those near death experiences where it's like love and light and everything feels good and there's no maybe. Like there's a vague presence of people. But then the, the overwhelming thing is like, not yet.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Well, guess what? Those people realize they don't need to be saved by Jesus and they come back thinking, oh, I didn't need to do all that. Perfect.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'll tell people, oh, that's interesting.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's all that's fascinating, I think.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Show them a good time. And then, boom, you come back and think, well, I wasn't saved by Jesus, so I guess that heaven is dumb as hell. That's a conclusion disinformation right there.

[David Lee Corbo]

What do you think about the whole. So I. Yeah, I had a dream, and for whatever reason, you know, all I really remember was an impression. The name Jesus associated with an image, and the image was basically Pleiadian Jesus. And I don't think.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I think that's coming, baby.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, I don't think that. I saw that. That and believed it. I don't think that. That impression.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But they wanted to put it on you.

[David Lee Corbo]

It was an impression that was put on me, and I rejected it.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I was like, I don't know that I thought that would work on you, but maybe crazy ideas coming out when I was just talking about that yesterday and, you know, I've been talking about this. I think they're gonna.

[David Lee Corbo]

I just think it's crazy. Like, what?

[Top Lobster]

Almost the same dream, but different setting. I see the. You see the Jesus, but you see the fake, the Antichrist. Like, it's just like, yeah, that's not him.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You ain't the only one getting that, I guarantee you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, so many people are getting there.

[Top Lobster]

And a lot of ways, who's believing?

[David Lee Corbo]

I mean, the blue is like this kind of blue. Like, the eyes were like. I remember that was about the strangest part to me, wasn't how Pleiadian Jesus, fake Jesus looked, but how blue. What a strange shade of blue his eyes were. And then I could still see them. And I was left with this impression that it was watching me, you know, for some time or whatever. I don't care. It wasn't filled with fear, none of that. But I. I was a little offended. Like, why the would you think that I would fall for Pleiadian Jesus, baby?

[Top Lobster]

Well, the way your hair, the way you do you talk.

[David Lee Corbo]

The nose ring.

[Top Lobster]

The nose ring. They're like this guy they keep.

[David Lee Corbo]

They keep visiting.

[Seth Kicklighter]

They're not watching.

[David Lee Corbo]

Pretty close enough, though, because I've been making fun of Pleiadian Jesus for a minute and. Yeah, I don't know. So. So what do you think about Pleiadian Jesus?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Well, I want to get into my actual, you know, eschatological predictions at the end of this. Okay.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Because I. I think it's very important

[David Lee Corbo]

you keep your secrets.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But I do believe that there will be. Be some if they don't bring a Pleiadian Jesus out. They are going to program. The idea of Jesus was either one of us or he followed the. He taught the Gnostic.

[David Lee Corbo]

He was an ascended master.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He taught the Gnostic ideas that we're going to promote because I think the New Age will be defeated as sort of. That'll be the deception model where everybody goes, oh, we're deceived by the aliens pushing the aliens and the Jews pushing the, you know, New Age stuff, you know, the proxies. And then they're going to say, the Gnostics are here to give us the truth. And that's going to be. It's going to be like setting up the great reset people like Claw, Schwarzenegger, Schwab, just to be defeated by the Trumpster Maga people, which is like, Schwab is your enemies and villains.

[David Lee Corbo]

I was listening to Jamie Walden say, it's like, it's such an obvious. He looks like a supervillain, looks like a bad guy.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You would look at him and ignore the people defeating him.

[David Lee Corbo]

Exactly.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You know, it's creating your heroes and villains. And that's what happened with Trump.

[David Lee Corbo]

He man said. He said, if. If Pleiadian Jesus showed up with dancing tents, then I'd be gotten. Then. Then I would be deceived. If I wanted to ask so bad.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Our.

[David Lee Corbo]

Our guest this morning. Morning, when he was in dancing, I wanted to ask about the dancing tents, but I thought he would think I was. So I was like, I'm just gonna keep this one to myself. But yeah, if you wanted to see me, Pleiadian Jesus in an array of dancing tents. And I'm going, yeah, dude, I guess sign me up for the silver booth.

[Top Lobster]

Throw a charter school in there.

[David Lee Corbo]

Does it come with some silver boots? I think that would be. We should dress up like Pleiadians on this show. It's so easy. Blue jumpsuit, silver boots. Let's do that. All right, all right. Continue, please.

[Seth Kicklighter]

If anybody has any Pleiadian Jesus dreams, please reach out. Oh.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, that's a great.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Collect them.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, that's an interesting put.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Little. A little.

[David Lee Corbo]

I think you guys are. But I want to hear about it.

[Seth Kicklighter]

All right, all right, we're moving. Hey, we're almost done with the astral travel stuff. We're going to do one more and then the Bible stuff, and then it's going. And then we're going to go. We're going to try to move on. If y' all need to cut it off, let me know. No, no, I'm feeling, I'm feeling. I'm on The.

[David Lee Corbo]

We got a little bit more time now, which is two hour. Oh, my phone's dead.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I. I could go for four or six, but I know you guys have lives.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I mean, I. I can say I'm thoroughly enjoying this, Seth. And I don't know how far you are. How. How far are you out of ten time from. From here?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Like, how long did it. Two and a half.

[David Lee Corbo]

Two and a half hours?

[Seth Kicklighter]

That's nothing, bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right? I mean, the dude wrote a whole book.

[Seth Kicklighter]

In six months, drive to Atlanta, like, multiple times. I'll drive there and back in one day to go shoot a concert. I go there five hours. I shoot a concert for 15 minutes. You get three songs to shoot, and then I come back and in the same day, and I'd be. I'd feel like, you know, black.

[David Lee Corbo]

You black.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I. I have. Okay, I'm not supposed to say this, all right? But I haven't been with a white woman, and I don't know how long. I'm celibate as right now. But if.

[David Lee Corbo]

Was it you traveling. But so. So here. What I want to say is you have. You're welcome here for a part two.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Okay.

[David Lee Corbo]

You're welcome here for a part two. So. So cut me off whenever, knowing that, you know, I. I would say we got about a half hour more. We could probably stretch it for about.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Well, I'm not gonna. Well, then I know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna finish the astral travel stuff, and then I'm gonna get into maybe my eschatological stuff and we'll rant for a bit. But the second. Second part I was gonna get into is a little bit more convoluted and complex to get into. So I don't want to start now if it's gonna be.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay, good.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah. So that'll be. And I'll. I'll do a reminder of what that is later so we can. On Dan again.

[Top Lobster]

I just love that you.

[David Lee Corbo]

So this one guy, Tyler reddick here

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[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah,

[David Lee Corbo]

stupid name.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So. There's so many more things in here that I'm not covering. It's sad, shamanic death and dismemberment. I talk about my adjacent chapter near the end where it's a bunch of random stuff amalgamated Together. And this is a shamanic culture thing that's not exclusive to them, but other people do it. But it's. It's heavy in their culture with their, you know, spiritual experiences. And it's called death and dismemberment initiation. And it's where a soon to be shaman will get initiated via getting a vision or an out of body experience or dream. All arms of the same beast. Same thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And they're getting a vision where usually they are chopped up into pieces. Their astral body, it feels kind of real for quite a few of them. And then they will get their flesh stripped from their bones. That's fun. And then they will get sometimes eaten by these entities. And these entities visiting them are trained spirits, higher ascended spirits, their ancestors. On occasion they go for the ancestor angle too. And they will have this experience and then when they're done, they come back to their body and boom, they have psychic abilities. Because they merge with a demon. It's an initiative and you consent to it beforehand. And it sometimes happens when they're very ill. And fever states, which, you know, has trance states involved in heavy fevers and stuff. Yeah, Connected fever dreams.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Theta brainwave state stuff, you know what I mean? Okay, so it's, it's. But it happens for shamans and other cultures of like witch doctor type, whatever the hell. More third world vibes, I guess. But they do that. And first of all, you can get spiritual powers via meditation and via Kundalini yoga and.

[David Lee Corbo]

But are they spiritual powers?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Well, they're merging with demons who are giving them psychic abilities, which. By psychic abilities. It's really just.

[David Lee Corbo]

They do not. Like when you say that.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like when you tell New Age practitioners. When you tell like witches. Yeah, like, look, the reason that you're having these experiences that you perceive as powers is actually because demons are facilitating a bunch of different. By acting.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It sounds very hokey to the end. To the unaware.

[David Lee Corbo]

It sounds. Yeah, it sounds like.

[Top Lobster]

Oh yeah, but you call a demon a parasite. They don't. Don't like that either.

[David Lee Corbo]

They don't really have any right. Interfering with their way of life. Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

How dare you. Oh, please, before I forget, I need to mention. I wanted to mention this at the beginning. I. Because you brought up new agents and trying to convince them. By the way, this is written for you New Agers. Okay. Agnostics.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's important, man.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I'm doing. This is real. I have it on my page. But now I have a new page, so we'll figure it out. It's on My link tree, the rules. I'm doing a thousand dollar bet. If you read my book and complete and you don't convert to Christianity or,

[David Lee Corbo]

Or, oh, well, there's no way to

[Seth Kicklighter]

prove you just got scammed out of $70 or whatever. I'm not the guy maybe should be saying this, this is dumb. But if you read my book and you don't convert to Christianity, so no Christians allowed. Or even if you. If you believe me and you just don't want to convert out of spite, that doesn't count. But if, basically, if I convince you of this reality, of this going on, these theories, then you. If I don't convince you, you get a thousand dollars. And I have all my money invested gold and silver years ago. So I am sitting up. Okay.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So I can afford to do this. And I have so far got a few Gnostics to turn their heads.

[David Lee Corbo]

Are you trying to brag to the people that stole your account? Hurting for money? He could pay that money if you needed to get it back.

[Seth Kicklighter]

That's right. And I didn't want to out of spite.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's right.

[Top Lobster]

Are you on the Patreon?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yes, I am.

[Top Lobster]

Did you see the latest episode? It was just me.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And I'm not keeping up lately because I've been studying my own to be ready.

[Top Lobster]

It's funny that you're here today because we're. Well, David was arguing with some new Age. Yeah, she was in the church chat, in the live chat, because we were on Twitter or something like that. And I'm talking to her and David's calling her fat.

[David Lee Corbo]

I did not call her fat.

[Top Lobster]

But I was wondering, I was like, man, what is a good way to reach these people? Because I don't know how to speak the language. Like, I understand what they're going through.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, I know the language. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

So it's interesting that you're here. Well, really, Danielle, Elf star or whatever the. Your name is.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I know that one. You know, you know, I've seen y' all talk about it. I've seen on Twitter. I've been around, man. Yeah, I got to restart, man. I'm saying.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, I don't think he missed anything too big except for me regressing, probably.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, we've regressed in these.

[David Lee Corbo]

In these past few days, but. All right, all right. Please continue. You had a ch.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So we're sorry. The. So, yeah. Thousand dollar dip bet. Real deal. Take my money, please. But you have to call me and, like, I have to quiz you to make sure you're not cheating me. Like, few questions. It'll be easy, I promise. Just to make sure you're not like. Totally. Okay, so you have.

[David Lee Corbo]

People are gonna lie.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Just basic questions. Okay, so that's a real bet. Thousand dollars. Send it to your astral. No, your astral.

[David Lee Corbo]

Your astral wallet.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, I'm losing track. But send it to people, you know, who you want to convert aggressively. All right, so now we're. Okay. Bible time. Let's go. So this is chapter seven or eight, and it's about First Kings 22, which is a story repeated in Second Chronicles 18. Now, I know it by heart, but I just want to pull it up.

[Top Lobster]

Go ahead, then.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So this is. Is the most important story in the

[David Lee Corbo]

Bible related to a chapter on numerology or a sub chapter on numerology.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, that's a good one. Said it's nerd. You wouldn't like it. So I call this chapter Micaiah's Mic Drop Intellectually pants in king. And it's. It's a good one. So if you don't know the story, I'm going to just quickly tell it best I can. King Ahab is the northern king of Israel at a certain time, and the southern tribe, Judah, is. You know, the two tribes are.

[David Lee Corbo]

Are.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Their king is Jehoshaphat. And I believe their kids are married, so they're in laws now.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And Ahab wants to go attack and pillage. I'm saying it wrong. Probably Ramoth, Gilead. And he asks the southern tribe, King Jehosphat, he's like, hey, join up with me. We're gonna go attack these. We're gonna kill them. We're gonna take their stuff. And he's like, I don't know. Is. Is God. Is Yahweh cool with it or is he about it? And he's like, can we, like, consult the prophets made, baby? And then Ahab's like, sure, whatever. Fine. I'll get my four. Literally 400 prophets. That's a real number. Not an exaggeration. He gets 400 of the local pagan prophets who are seeking divination. They're not chosen by God. Different. Different vibe. So he gets his 400 pagan worshipers and he says he asked them what's gonna happen if they go to war. And they all say the same thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's gonna crush.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You're gonna. They're remote viewers is what they are. They're. They're getting a vision and they tell them, you're gonna crush. You're gonna be great. You're gonna Be successful, blah, blah, blah. And then Ahab's like, see, I told you. We got 400 validate. 400 people validating it. How could you. How could you mess with that?

[David Lee Corbo]

Got 400 fat named Danielle lined up telling you all this.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And Jehoshaphat, knowing Danielle is a lion and fat, he goes. He goes, we have to. We have to do something about this. He's like, what? Maybe one more prophet of the one true God? Because he's not totally sure if these are real deal guys. And he's like, one more. And then Ahab's like, fine, dude. Like, I'll get Makai. Micaiah, I don't like his ass because he's prophesied bad fortune to me in the past, which is basically saying, I'm not going to tell you what I want to hear. And probably a true prophet of God. So he. This guy goes fetches Micaiah. And the guy fetching him says, hey, stick with the plan. Don't veer off in your own thing. We're going to do this. Don't with it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And then he's like, I'll tell him what God tells me, you know, Amen. And he goes, there. And Ahab's like, all right, Prophesy good fortune, brother. And he sarcastically roast him. And he's like, you're gonna be fine. You're gonna kick ass. And he's being sarcastic. And then Ahab's like, you, I know you're playing games with me. Tell me the truth. And then, boom. God locks in and gives him a vision. And this vision. So this vision he gets is he sees the heavenly council hanging out. He sees God, however that visually looks. And he sees the angels communing around a circle, and they're saying they're trying to figure out, how can we deal with Ahab, who's going to get all his people up and killed. How can we get him out of here? He needs to stop. Stop. Like, he's. He's damaging the Israelites too much. But they're not going to go in and kill him. You know, they allow free will to exist, and they influence to a degree where you're, you know, catering to your heart's desires, but they have rules, so they're following these rules. And the council's speaking to each other, and God's like, what do we do? He knows what to do, but he's letting his creation play it out. He's a real one, you know, his kids. You fight each other. So one angel goes, I'll do it. I'll go down there and be a lion spirit in the 400. In the 400 pregnancy prophets.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'll be one of those fat Danielle. Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So this is an angel on the good side saying, I'm going to come deceive you. And you say, oh, angels don't receive. And it's like, well, first of all, divination, you asked for it. Second of all, it's not God doing it, says man. But it's not deception. And we'll get to why in a second.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's also kind of giving you what you desperately want more than the truth.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Exactly. So the thing is, God deceives him initially with this action, but does it really? Because he then tells him the truth through Micaiah and gives him a chance to go, okay. Makai goes, basically, you can choose the truth or you can choose your own desires and your own passion.

[Top Lobster]

And they know what the truth is. That's why they asked. That's why they asked Makaya 400. They're like, this isn't. Yeah, this ain't it.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

They looked at the 400. They were like, look at that.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He wanted to convince Jehoshaphat. Ahab's already decided. Right. But he thought, maybe I can change his mind. So he gave him a free will option. He said, I'm gonna give Ahab the truth. So he did with his vision. So he tells him that and then basically tells you and glosses over initially. And I've heard only Hydra talk about this story, but not this element. And the element of, okay, well, if an angel can come down and get 400 prophets, say the same exact thing and have the same vision, remote viewing style, which is probably what it was implied. What does that mean about spiritual influences on psychic information? In the Bible they tell you that it's possible, but you have to read between the lines and go, wait a minute. That's what it's saying.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It's not even hard to figure out. You just have to really look at it. So that's validation to the abilities they have.

[David Lee Corbo]

Sure.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Not the out of body stuff, but it's the next door neighbor of it. It's remote viewing and it's downloaded information, knowledge and alongside probably a vision that went with it.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's interesting. That's interesting. Because if that happens, it's like everything that we attribute to a demonic spirit, whether it's, you know, a vision or something like that, doesn't necessarily have to be at all. It could be an angelic spirit that you've given A bunch of consents. You love something worldly. You want something more than you want the truth, more than you love God, more than you want to be, more than you want to die to yourself. Yourself. It'll give you what you want.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And I lean on the idea. Demons take care of most of that. But I think that it definitely happens in cases like these to pursue it. You know, this is creating a biblical story as well, a narrative. That's important. Yeah, it's an important thing. So it's a world.

[David Lee Corbo]

Not a world war, but.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah. So it's. It's bigger potatoes. Yeah. You know?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

So, well, that this also happens to Saul, right?

[Seth Kicklighter]

He goes to the witch of Endor.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, well, not just the witch of Endor, but he's. He is. It's prophesied on him that, like, yo, you're gonna spot spiral, and no matter how much I tell you, you're gonna spiral, you're not gonna come out of it. So it's just like, he's like, allowing you to continue to spiral until you kill yourself, basically.

[David Lee Corbo]

But that's.

[Top Lobster]

Man, it's. It's almost. It's not predeterminism. It's just like, hey, this is what's gonna happen, man. And I'm sorry, but, you know, this

[David Lee Corbo]

is what you chose.

[Top Lobster]

Here's your opportunities to come out of it. And it's just like, man, some people just don't. That's.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's hard. I can't ever say, God won't give you what you want.

[Top Lobster]

That's heavy. Yeah, that's heavy.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Free world universe. You know, I think it's fair. I think it's very, very fair, considering bigger picture. So. Yeah, that story, I think, validates my whole vision thing alone. You know, I didn't. Yeah, but all that other stuff is going. This is the people that the new ages of gnostics look to for cosmo cosmological information. And it lines up with channeled information, which, by the way, the details very strongly. And that's more so in the second part with the spirit releasement therapy stuff. You'll hear more about that and how they vary. But you got to keep in mind, people are like, why don't they stick to one story story? And it's like, well, first of all, they got to cater to people and make sure they, you know, attribute to stuff that they know they will fall for. But also, why didn't demons create one counter religion to Christianity? Why did they create so many?

[Top Lobster]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, because it's money.

[Seth Kicklighter]

The waters make Christianity, one in a giant barrel. But most of them are reincarnation based.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, that's why right now, as we're, as we're, you know, going towards this whole alien disclosure thing. I've already seen, I've seen the sentiments and this has been around for a while. If you think about like the film Zeitgeist, even before that, obviously. But if you look at the sentiment online that's boiling to the top right now where it's like Christianity is just a retelling of, you know, a real event that did take place. But that immaculate conception and all this, this has already happened. So you could either say this is a, a retelling of the Osiris, Horus and Isis story, or you can say this is just Jesus is one of many, many Christ figures, you know, that came and ascended. Matt figures, figures that, that was, you know, one of many. And they're all these ascended masters who have tried over and over again to impart some message on humanity, but they fail every time and we reject them. But that just makes him one of a multitude of, of different messianic figures.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Absolutely.

[David Lee Corbo]

And so, yeah, that. But I see that really loud right now, really loud right now as we move towards probably Pleiadian Jesus or what the hell. Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

The great deception is not far away at all.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's exciting.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm pumped about it.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh yeah. I mean, you can be. We can really testify pretty hardcore right now.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, man.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right, well, so, all right, I guess as we bring it in for a landing, is there anything else you wanted to, to slap on the top of that?

[Seth Kicklighter]

I did, I did. I. I was gonna do it after my second part, but you know what, we're gonna come back and take care of that. I, I wanted to talk about eschatological stuff, which we kind about of talked just drifted into, and only because I egotistically want to give a reason to validate my work. And if I have any and I, if I'm wrong, it doesn't mean my other shit's wrong. It just means I want to put something out there that I think is very legitimate and if it happens any way close to it, it can bring attention to my work, which is very important because I want to get this word out. I think the whole vision concept, if people understand that it explains reincarnation memories, which we didn't touch on in detail, but the evidence is there, it's important. My book on how it's the same thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

And like we said, we're gonna have you back? Yes, for a second one. So that we can.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So we'll talk about that later. But it's gonna be a good time.

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[Seth Kicklighter]

CHUMBA CASINO but we'll get in the reincarnation stuff. But for now, I. I got so much notes on this part, I can remember most of it. So, yeah, I think we are approaching the great deception. I think I. I'm not going to get into too much detail on it, but I think the Messiah. Do you know Messiah 23rd? Is that. Yeah. Did you watch it?

[David Lee Corbo]

No, I watched. It's pretty long. Yeah, I watched like the first two hours, I think, and it was interesting.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Did it hit you though, at all?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, there was some fascinating stuff in there. It wasn't something that I bought hook, line and sinker.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You won't after just one. I'm telling you. Okay, Now, I hate to be that person who goes, oh, this biblical decoding is totally like getting this timeline right and all these things. I, I hate to be that guy. It sounds blasphemous. It sounds very ignorant.

[Top Lobster]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

People go, you don't know the day or the hour. And what they. They have. They've spent 30 minutes on that in part two. Yeah, 30 minutes on that. How hermeneutically and contextually that is taken out of context. And I agree with them. And I'm not going to try to explain it here.

[David Lee Corbo]

Is this the idea of like you don't know the day or the hour, but you might know like the season he was taught?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yes, but it's, it's. It's deeper than that. They talk about it for 30 minutes, I promise you. Part two, I believe, I think it

[David Lee Corbo]

was in the beginning. I remember seeing that. And like they have a separate video on it.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But it's not part one, it's part two. I'm pretty sure. I'm telling you this is. Even if the timeline's wrong, the thing that I love about it is it's the most mind blowing evidence of God's power and structure of the narrative. The world world. I'm also a young Earther, which did not happen until pretty recently. And I have done a lot she's

[David Lee Corbo]

saying like 6,000 year old hydroplate theory,

[Seth Kicklighter]

baby, look it up. Watch. Brian Nichols Hydroplate Theory I watched it three times. I kind of understand 70 of it. It now. Young Earth is, I think provable in a lot of ways now. And the flood being much crazier than people can imagine accounts for the apparent aging of the universe. And there's a whole bunch of layers there. And I think age was cooked into the universe as far as like lights being far away in stars and stuff. I think that's totally doable. He baked agent to Adam by the

[David Lee Corbo]

way, what about that idea that Ed Mabry has about the slowing of the speed of light, how and how it affects carbon dating?

[Seth Kicklighter]

I've heard about it. I don't. I think carbon dating is after 4, 000 years and there's a whole bunch of reasons for that I'm not going to explain.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, he actually said something pretty interesting about how it alters carbon dating because if the speed of light was faster back then, what you see in the carbon record would look like it took place a lot longer ago. But it really didn't at all. It was just that the, the speed of light was faster and is degrading. And so it's very possible.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I'm not going to claim to know all about that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But yeah, I think the Messiah 2030 timeline, I do subscribe to it. I think it's accurate. And the information in there, even if it's wrong, the prophetic information about dates and times and how the Bible's perfectly predicted thing, things 490 years in, in advance. Perfectly. And then 2,000 years in advance.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, I saw that.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And also, if that timeline's correct, Jesus is returning on his 2000 year anniversary of his crucifixion by the year, not the month. And there's some beauty to that which aligns with the days, a thousand years principle, which also aligns with the whole, you know, 6,000 year old earth thing, which I do subscribe to. And then the thousand year millennial kingdom, it's, it's archetypal, archetypal pattern of the days of creation, six days, seventh day rest, millennial kingdom, it's the same thing. And people go, oh, 10,000 years. They're like, it doesn't line up with the art as much of it. I think anyway, God's capable of all this. I think. So I subscribe to the, that besides 2030 places. Abomination, desolation, if that's more literal or, or metaphorical because the two verses that describe it say let the reader understand which is making the claim. I believe that it is probably more nuanced than the initial interpretation. And they also push a 3.5 year tribulation out of 7. They say the first 3.5 was cut off in Jesus ministry and then it pauses and that sounds terrible to people right now they hate me right now they're screaming at me. But I, I'm not going to explain it here. It's going to take too long and I don't fully, fully memorize it. But watch the presentation and tell me it's. It's in part three. Okay, it is, it is a very good explanation. And if people believe the seven year time when it's really 3.5, that'll throw off a lot of people, by the way, because people are like, I don't understand. This doesn't line up with scripture. And it's a deception. It's the common belief for a reason. I believe anyway, so that's a big part of it. And I believe that Gog and Magog has to happen before that starts, which is they say March 27th, 20th next year, which they code out of the Bible. And that you're probably thinking how the fuck could you do that? Watch the six hour thing and tell me otherwise. That's homework if you want to do. Yeah, there is a very good argument for it. So it. Let's just say that's the truth. We already know things are coming up soon regardless.

[David Lee Corbo]

Seems that way. Alien stuff you believe like a fabricated apocalyptic scenario.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You know, I think I'm just gonna tell you what I think with this and we'll veer off if we want, but I think that Gaga Magog is happening in the next. I'm gonna say between June and end of the year. Okay, maybe. Maybe a little bit after, but.

[David Lee Corbo]

And who are the two?

[Seth Kicklighter]

You know that it says in the Bible, if I'm remembering correctly, Russia, Iran, Turkey, coalition, and then some other little areas coalitions, but between them like bricks and. Yeah, sounds like that. So it's that they get together and they go and invade Israel and people have a whole discrepancy on oh, who's really Israel. We can get into the whole Idumean angle all we want, but don't have time for that. Let's move on. I think it is describing that country in the Prof. Prophetic sense in Ezekiel 38 and it seems to be lining up that way right now pretty perfectly. And the hatred amongst Jews in the world is growing and it's semi justified but also it's part of a psyop.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So you got to understand that if that happens, I think the Bledsoe prophecies and the Striber, you know, which coincides prophecies, I think they're the other side of that coin.

[David Lee Corbo]

What was Stryber's prophecy?

[Seth Kicklighter]

I don't remember it for detail. I just remember he said the same things as Bloodstone. People were saying that I'm so I'm

[David Lee Corbo]

saying in, in terms of the Red Angeles.

[Seth Kicklighter]

No, I think it was more of the alien showing up. Iran and. Yeah, Iran and Israel.

[David Lee Corbo]

I think that is accurate.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Which they've been exchanging missiles, but it didn't say immediately. And I think that's, you know, I think it's still going to happen. Now if that's true, if Bledsoe is right, which he's the chosen prophet for the new age or maybe Gnostic side of it, he seems more new age. His son is more Gnostic. I don't know. I gotta confirm that. But I think that whenever that happens, God says in the Bible that he's going to supernaturally save Israel, not because they deserve it. And that's very clear when you read the scripture. And people are going to get mad about it and people already hate Jews right now, so they're going to be like, why did God do that? Or they're going to believe it's aliens because guess what? Whenever he supernaturally saves them, he says with weather events like hail and with what earthquake? And he says he's going to confuse everybody and scare them so much that they're going to start shooting each other. The coalition going in. So they're going to kill their own people and they're, you know, people in their partnerships and they're going to kill each other in mass and that they're going to be picking up those bodies for years.

[David Lee Corbo]

So we do have that. By the way, Whitley Striver, he actually just tweeted about it on March 2. He said, I almost never talk about any communication I have with nhi, but I will do it in this case. I was told that this, there was a concern that a war between Iran and the west might expand into a nuclear conflict.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Now where are you getting this information about the confusion, the, the bodies being picked up and all that? This is a. The prophecy from Whitley Schreiber or not?

[Seth Kicklighter]

No, that's more biblical. And I'm going off A memory here. And I don't have every part memorized. Parts. Other parts I have memorized more accurately. But I believe the Bible says they'll be picking up the bodies of this Gog and Magog for years. And maybe I'm remembering the wrong thing or the next Gog Magog because they talk about it in the Satan's little season and thing and maybe they're trying to convince people that that's happening now so that you can think that Jesus is gonna return his pleading. But anyway, so I promise I'm. I'm trying to finish.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, go ahead. Don't worry, you don't gotta rush.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I think that aliens will take the blame for God's supernatural hand in saving saving Israel and that they'll secularize the event that way so God's interpretation is out. People will know the truth, but a lot of people won't. They'll fall for the deception.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, Jesus is real.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But yeah, I think the bad cop aliens are the ones gonna show up to for this and they're going to claim ownership of the Jews.

[David Lee Corbo]

And you think those are probably going to be maybe the Grays or something like that.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Braves Reptilians, maybe man's had thrown in there. They're all bad compared to the Nordics who are the only good cops really. Yeah, in the, in the lore.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And there's conflicting data on them because they go all over the place with it and you have Georgiani saying crazy ass. And he's an. By the way, really rude to me when I brought.

[David Lee Corbo]

Wait, wait, wait. Isn't that the guy from.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He's blowing up right now. He's a genius with his wordsmithing but he's an kind of looks like the

[Top Lobster]

guy from the Seinfeld.

[Seth Kicklighter]

He looks like a little gremlin. Yeah, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Goblin boy.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I'm talking. That's right. Don't get a lawyer involved. Yeah, he was really mean to me in a space. I asked him a question on and he like didn't even answer it. I brought up the vision thing. Like, hey, if this is real, you're using this information as your whole framework. And he was like, that's a horrendous idea. Doesn't even make any sense. He's like, get someone smart up here. You're stupid. And I was like. And I'm paraphrasing slightly, but he was mean.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's not nice.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Anyway, so Gaga Magog, I think bad aliens, bad, bad cop are going to show up and take credit for God's supernatural hand claim. Ownership of the Jews were there pro. Oh, the Jews are our proxies. That explains why they've been overtaking the earth. Yeah, they've been the infiltrators for aliens. Whether they're hybrids or just chosen for whatever reason it's gonna be. I think that's gonna happen and I think that you're gonna have the good cop aliens show up soon after the white boys. Yeah, the ones that look like me, but a little bit prettier by the way.

[David Lee Corbo]

You get that inside the, the abductee testimony where they say like, like the, the grays are the satanic element, people that are interacting with the Pleiadians and that there's, you know, a war in exchange. And I do believe even within the Cliff high prediction model, there's something about good aliens destroying bad aliens and that he thinks in his estimation the bad ones are the great.

[Seth Kicklighter]

There can't be one faction if they want to create this narrative.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's just a little bit left hand path. Right hand path.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So they're going to create that narrative and they already have seated it heavily and yeah, I think the Nordics are gonna be the good guys. And if you listen. How much do you guys know about secret space program lore?

[David Lee Corbo]

It depends. What are you asking, my super soldiers?

[Seth Kicklighter]

The, like the, the memory retrieval, which I think is all vision based, it's the same thing as past life memories. And they talk about this program. I've listened to 60 hours at least of testimony of these people. Gez, it's, it's too much. It's. It's up and, and I've read a few books and it is the most. You can get a lot of truth from reverse engineering the lies in that stuff. And I did a lot of work in there and I only have like 10 pages in my book about it, but I talk about how it's the same patterns as past life memories and it's implanted false memories and they're very traumatic and very real and people. And it's. Do you. You don't know what happens in SSP Memories?

[David Lee Corbo]

No.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Okay. Well, basically they. They're given 20 years of service in space with working. Oh yeah, yeah. And then there. And then their time traveled back to right when they left.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, right when they left.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And their age regressed.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

With technology.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

So that's what they believe. And they're. And I think think it's just, you know, memory implantation.

[Top Lobster]

That was the hip hop dude, one of those hip hop dancers. You remember that? No, like David Wilcox.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, oh, yeah, that's right.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, we made fun of him.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, of course. No, we're familiar. There's at least three of them that we know.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. But then people.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Multiple tests. Hey, dude, when you get into the hours and hours of that stuff, it is the. They say and I'll get into it more next time because it's very, very important. And they. They also say QAnon. They say just like Q and on. On. Trump is working with the white hats. They all say this.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yep.

[Seth Kicklighter]

They say that he is. They pre programmed this before he's even president a second time. They say that he's working with the white hats and that he is Tyler

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[Seth Kicklighter]

Working with the Nordics and that he's part of disclosure and guess, guess who's disclosing pretty soon.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, he's trying.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It's happening. They're fulfilling the prophecy. Close.

[David Lee Corbo]

And then all of a sudden he's.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It's all timing. They have to. They have to skirt around it.

[David Lee Corbo]

But what they'll reserve said severance. If you've ever watched the film Severance, that's like this.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It's a great show. It's a.

[David Lee Corbo]

It is a great show.

[Top Lobster]

What do you think about Nightmare Melania?

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah. I mean, she plays a role in this. She seems spooky as hell to me.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I mean, she is, you know, maximum spooky, no doubt.

[David Lee Corbo]

But yeah, genius level visa. She's constantly talking through her outfits and like.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah, I don't think she much of an integral hand. Maybe, but okay. Is she possessed by demons? My bottom dollar.

[David Lee Corbo]

You think she's Pleiadian? I swear to God, she got some work done, then I'm gonna say she's Pleiadian. They're gonna roll her out. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm looking for silver boots and a blue outfit over here, man. All right. Yeah, I think that's pretty similar to the way that I expect things. And to be fair, that's a lot of what Alvarino said on this show, which I think he's. He's over the target in that regard. Where the Pleiadians are going to position themselves as good guys.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Guys.

[David Lee Corbo]

Grays are gonna be the bad guys. We're gonna watch a fake war take place. And we're gonna have some fake savior figures and all that figures.

[Seth Kicklighter]

It supports the government institution for releasing disclosed information such as Trump specifically. And. And a lot of the whistleblowers that are very media friendly.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we have interesting times ahead of us.

[Top Lobster]

The more we. The more we learn about this stuff, the more, the less I know.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, that's what the. No, no.

[Top Lobster]

The less I know what Timothy Albarino, like, what he actually thinks.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if he knows because

[Top Lobster]

he's like, yeah, I agree with all this. And I'm like. But like, why do we disagree?

[David Lee Corbo]

I have no idea. It doesn't matter at this point, but

[Top Lobster]

it really doesn't matter.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, man. This is a great episode. Yeah, you did a good job, dude.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I feel awesome.

[David Lee Corbo]

This is your first time?

[Seth Kicklighter]

This is my first time talking on camera on your pop cap.

[David Lee Corbo]

It is a pop cap.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I'm deflowered now.

[David Lee Corbo]

Where are people gonna find you if they want to have you on the. On their podcast?

[Seth Kicklighter]

I mean, you can email [e-mail]. that was my photography email. I haven't changed it. And if. Or reach out to me on Instagram. Seth Lehem School.

[David Lee Corbo]

Sounds like you gotta get some official set up.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I have another interview scheduled in a few days from now on Forbidden Knowledge. Oh, that's.

[David Lee Corbo]

I love that dude. He's great.

[Seth Kicklighter]

But I don't think he's a Christian, so I'm gonna be. I'm gonna go hard on him.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's Christian, curious.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, he had a reptilian experience. I'm gonna get him, bro. I'm gonna get it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Ask him about his reptilian experience.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I will try to remember that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah. He's a great dude, though.

[Seth Kicklighter]

No, but he seems nice. I'm going on there and then I have plans to do one with another friend who I don't know if y' all heard of, but. And then I'm trying to get on confessionals. Nathaniel Gillis messaged me the other day.

[David Lee Corbo]

Hell yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

The other day on Instagram. I've for a while. He goes, we need to talk. I love your work. And I go, you know about my work.

[David Lee Corbo]

Let's go.

[Seth Kicklighter]

And then I go, he's like, yes. And I love it. And then, then he. I don't want to say what he said to me because it's too private, but he said something really dramatic. And then I was like, oh, my God, don't say that. And it was Very, you know, emotional. And that's so cool. Yes. Yes. And then I responded to him, and I'm saying all those things like, oh, we need to talk. I got to talk about this isn't this. And I need you to use you. I need to use our new friendship.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Get me on confessionals. Yeah. And then he. And then he was. And then he didn't open it yet. That was like. Yeah, that was like two days ago.

[David Lee Corbo]

Tony does what Tony wants to do.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I love you, Tony. I'm a big fan.

[David Lee Corbo]

I think Tony would enjoy your work, though. That's for sure.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I. I think so, too. And I need to defame Dan Duval, and that's the best place to do it.

[David Lee Corbo]

And we're gonna kill you, Dan Duvall.

[Seth Kicklighter]

We're gonna. We're gonna murder you dead with weapons.

[Top Lobster]

I think after this, a lot more people are gonna know your work and take it serious, because it's. It's always a mixed bag.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Like, when we invite somebody and we're not exactly sure, like, we've never seen you. You talk.

[David Lee Corbo]

I've had people be like, hey, I got a book. And then I've looked through the book, and I'd be like, this is. This is actually crazy. This is absolutely crazy.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And it just comes from, like, the angle of all the people you've talked about being deceived by this entire.

[Seth Kicklighter]

As was I. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And I get it, but, you know,

[Top Lobster]

our email is filled with that. Yeah, it's. It's crazy how many. But, man, I'm glad that we had you on, because you're bringing a wealth of knowledge, and part two is going to be great, man.

[David Lee Corbo]

You're.

[Top Lobster]

You're well researched.

[David Lee Corbo]

We have to ask this, by the way. This is maybe this. Well, we'll ask you that. But this merits at least one can of cat food. This was first official booking. Nancy, what did you think of the episode?

[Seth Kicklighter]

It was great.

[David Lee Corbo]

You did great.

[Seth Kicklighter]

That's good. I love to hear it. Thank you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Fancy Feast or Meow makes

[Seth Kicklighter]

Fancy Feast, please.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay. She's a fancy girl.

[Top Lobster]

One can, one can, one can.

[David Lee Corbo]

Let's.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Let's wrap it up.

[David Lee Corbo]

Ask him.

[Top Lobster]

Don't be rude.

[David Lee Corbo]

Are you having fun?

[Seth Kicklighter]

I'm having a great time. Hell, yeah. I've been big fan for a while. Not to kiss ass or nothing. Okay. I've been wanting to do this, and I was like, this is the perfect place to be deflowered on podcast. I was going to do my own and just release it and basically be this amalgamated together. But I don't like talking to myself. I sound really awkward and cringy and it's, it's gross.

[Top Lobster]

That's why I don't do, I don't do solo shows.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I'm not kind of hard. I don't like it.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm not bothered by any of my,

[Seth Kicklighter]

I'm just going to use, this is my thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I really hope you get to, to other shows and, and, and this is all very solid information and I agree. I, I, I don't know that I found anything I, I've disagreed with so far. We have to wait till episode two.

[Seth Kicklighter]

You got to do some reading, man. You got some homework.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, honestly, we, we could use this as like a reference material. Not just.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, yeah, I say, we say it's our work.

[Seth Kicklighter]

No, but that I'm cool with it.

[Top Lobster]

The story, the stories in here, they, they go, they go right in line with like an episode of Chronicles.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Chronicles.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh yeah, they do.

[Top Lobster]

Like you can open this up and

[Seth Kicklighter]

they'll make you giggle and they'll make

[Top Lobster]

you giggle and you can kind of read it, extrapolate on it, have some fun with it. If we don't have emails. A useful tool here.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh yeah, yeah, maybe we do a little bit of that. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Shenanigans Chronicle. Shenanigans.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Shenanigans, bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

What's the name of the book? And, and where can people get it?

[Seth Kicklighter]

Spirit Realm Shenanigans and Unhinged Rant Exposing the Psychic fabrications of Discarnate dweebs and nephilim nitwits. And you can buy it on Amazon. Amazon? It's hardcover and soft and you can buy it on payhip through my link tree directly. Linktree slash Sethlehem, I'm pretty sure. And I have a bunch of other stuff linked there. The audiobook's free and the audiobook's 34 hours and organized. And it's got silly voices in it much sillier than mine. You'll have a good time with it, but it's dense and hard to absorb. So get on there, find my accounts, follow me. I need a new following. It's, it's been imploded by the Indian man who took my money. And I link, I link other. My favorite work like hydro plate theory and 2030. Well, now it's a big deal to

[David Lee Corbo]

me now that the Indians have, have done you a disservice. I, I want to say to all, by the way. Oh no, all Indians. I want the dangerous retards. Guys, let's try to do something Cool. Let's see if we can't go to that Amazon page and spam that with five star ratings.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Give me some reviews, please.

[David Lee Corbo]

And tweak that algorithm a little bit because this is a banger. And I'm really looking forward to to part two. I'm glad that we did this, man. This is cool.

[Seth Kicklighter]

Oh, yeah, man. I'm excited for round two, man. I got a lot to go.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right.

[Top Lobster]

Excellent. Guys. That was Seth. That was Seth Kickliter.

[Seth Kicklighter]

I did a real name.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's a Crazy German or something. Made it German.

[Top Lobster]

Crazy guys. Until next time, don't forget to obey. Submit and comply. We'll see.

[David Lee Corbo]

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[Seth Kicklighter]

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