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Nephilim Death Squad – The Book of Daniel Part 5: Prince of Persia vs Michael the Archangel w/ Matt Hepner

Podcast: Nephilim Death Squad (TopLobsta Productions)
Episode date: October 24, 2025
Hosts: TopLobsta & David Lee Corbo aka "The Raven"
Guest: Matt Hepner
Theme: A deep-dive into Daniel Chapters 10-12 – exploring biblical prophecy, spiritual warfare, the “Prince of Persia,” Michael the Archangel, and the larger implications for understanding conspiracy, spiritual reality, and who can be part of God’s kingdom.

Episode Overview

This episode continues the Nephilim Death Squad's sequential journey through the Book of Daniel, taking a sharp focus on Daniel 10–12. The crew, with guest Matt Hepner, dissects the mystical and prophetic vision where Daniel witnesses cosmic spiritual battle: heavenly messengers delayed by the “Prince of Persia” and ultimately aided by the archangel Michael. Along the way, the conversation veers into practical theology, conspiracy theory at the intersection of faith, the pitfalls of modern church culture, and the nature of true spiritual authority and awakening. The style is irreverent, personal, and marked by both humor and sincerity.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Blue Letter Bible Controversy and Podcasting Culture

[03:30–08:50]

The hosts disclose a recent dustup with "Blue Letter Bible": they produced an episode promoting the tool, but management requested it be pulled due to the show's edgy tone and language.
Matt defends BLB as a valuable resource, while the crew debate why a Bible search engine would shy away from supporting conspiracy-themed Christian media.
- "Blue Letter Bible is the ultimate research tool. And so, like, I don't know. It's just weird for me because if they were like the local Baptist church, it's one thing... but it's a search engine for the Bible." (Matt, 07:05)
The segment reveals broader commentary about the 501c3 church industrial complex and a lament that American church culture prefers “cupcakes” to “rough around the edges” believers.
Quote:
“The kingdom of God is looking for hard hitting, like people who are rough around the edges and people who are willing to get things done. And I think the Bible is over and over and over with examples of that.” – Matt [11:36]

2. Daniel 10: Daniel’s Vision and Spiritual Warfare

[12:50–41:00]

The crew recaps the transition from Daniel’s previous prophecies to Chapter 10. Daniel, after fasting three weeks (“ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth…”), receives a stunning vision.
Daniel’s experience is paralleled to modern spiritual “loneliness”: true spiritual depth is often isolating.
- “If people are going to walk with God… it’s going to be a lonely walk. I just want to say that. I just want to make that clear to people because I think there’s people who think they’re going to be… super close to God… and they’re going to have a ton of friends. Biblically, it’s not really like that.” – Matt [21:41]
Daniel’s companions flee in terror—spiritual encounters can be deeply unsettling. The story is compared to UFO encounters and “things that shatter ordinary perception.”
- “Like, when the sky gets split and the natural realm just gets split and the spirit realm enters… Like, we don’t have a grid for this.” – Matt [24:05]

3. The Prince of Persia, Michael, and Unseen Warfare

[28:01–47:33]

The key event: Daniel’s prayer is answered after 21 days, but the angelic messenger was delayed by “the prince of the kingdom of Persia”—an interpretation of territorial spiritual powers.
Michael the Archangel intervenes, revealing a spiritual war playing out above geo-political history.
- “It’s not because it takes 21 days to get from heaven to earth, okay? It’s because the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me 21 days.” – Matt [29:03]
Daniel’s “one man’s prayer shakes heaven.” The group reflects on the radical, underestimated power of intercessory prayer, contrasting it with contemporary weak “prayer lives.”
- “There’s a man on the earth praying… One dude is praying, and it’s moved heaven… Heaven’s on the move because of this one guy praying.” – Matt [30:01]
Metaphor: The spirit realm has “legalities,” “courtrooms,” and “battlefields”—not just abstract spiritualism, but structured conflict influencing earth.
“For whatever reason, like, legally, the Prince of Persia was able to hold up this messenger. And then Michael came through. I don’t think Michael came to… make a deal or talk through it. I think he came through and just was like—like, boom, he’s through.” – Matt [35:18]

4. Who is Israel? Angels, Mormons, and Spiritual Identity

[47:18–54:00]

The passage’s reference to “Michael, your prince” launches debate on Michael’s role as angelic “patron” over Israel, and the demarcation between nations and their spiritual authorities.
- “So, again, I know how you guys are about Israel, but just understand, if you’re fighting against Israel and you don’t like Israel, Michael’s their prince. So, if you want to be, like, against Michael, be my guy.” – Matt [47:18]
Offshoot: Discussion of spiritual claims of other faiths (especially Mormonism/Joseph Smith).
- “Like, none of that matters, dude. Like, we have a Bible, bro. People adding to it or saying stuff or saying God’s not the only God… whoa, I’m not getting into all…” – Matt [38:09]

5. Idols, Testimonies & the Nature of Authentic Faith

[54:00–61:36]

Debate on Christian symbols: is wearing a cross or distributing plastic “Jesus” erasers a valid testimony?
- Matt is uncompromising: "If you need that for people to know that you’re a Christian, you should be checking yourself. For me, personally, I don’t really wear any things that like, say I’m a Christian… If your claim is that the living God lives inside of you, you should [have the] raddest coffee shop in town. Like, what are we talking about?” [58:22–59:09]
The group critiques performative Christianity vs. living faith—with personal stories about Christians being poor witnesses in daily life (e.g., stingy tipping at restaurants while leaving crosses as “testimony”).
“I’m over the church not acting like the church. That’s all I’m saying.” – Matt [58:13]

6. Daniel 11–12: Prophecy, History & End Times

[62:02–113:48]

Matt reads selections from Daniel 11–12, focusing on the vision’s prophetic sweep: empires rising (Persia, Greece, Egypt), the “abomination of desolation,” and the coming of the ultimate evil ruler (“the king will do as he pleases, exalting himself…”).
Discussion on the cyclical nature of prophecy: Is Daniel describing events fulfilled under Antiochus Epiphanes, or also end-time Antichrist? The “already/not yet” aspect of biblical history.
Key Focus: The dividing line at history’s end—those who know their God vs. those who don’t; the promise of resurrection—some to everlasting life, some to everlasting contempt.
- “He will flatter and win over those who have violated the covenant. But the people who know their God will be strong and will resist him.” (Daniel 11:32) – Matt emphasizes, "It doesn't say the people who have perfect doctrine… People who know their God. Like, that's it." [75:43]
Existential reflection: The necessity of picking a side, being “light” in escalating darkness, and not losing focus by obsessing over things you can’t control (politics, timelines, etc.)

7. Philosophical & Practical Takeaways

[117:48–End]

Matt wraps up with an exhortation:
“The time of the end is gonna come… your time is short. Dark is going to get dark, light is going to get light. And you got to pick a side and you got to be a part of the game. Like, you got to get in the game. There's an entire body dependent on you to take your role in the body… You gotta get with God and figure out your destiny. And you've got to be reading a Bible. You've got to be reading it every day, man…” [117:48]
The group closes with gratitude for community and encouragement for listeners to seek authentic, committed spiritual life—not just surface acts or tribalism.

Memorable Quotes

“When the sky gets split and the natural realm just gets split and the spirit realm enters. Like, we don’t have a grid for this.” – Matt [24:05]
“Heaven’s on the move because of this one guy praying.” – Matt [30:01]
“The kingdom of God is looking for hard hitting, like people who are rough around the edges and people who are willing to get things done.” – Matt [11:36]
“If your claim is that the living God lives inside of you, you should [have the] raddest coffee shop in town.” – Matt [59:06]
“People who know their God will be strong and will resist him.” (on Daniel 11:32) [75:43]
“Dark is going to get dark and light's going to get light, and light gets lighter in a dark place to begin with, and the light's going to be lighter.” – Matt [113:11]
“The time of the end is gonna come… and you got to be a part of the game. You gotta get in the game. There's an entire body dependent on you to take your role in the body…” – Matt [117:48]

Key Timestamps

[03:30] – Blue Letter Bible controversy, 501c3 critique
[11:36] – "Cupcakes" vs. biblical heroes & the kingdom of God
[21:41] – On spiritual loneliness
[24:05] – Spiritual perception and cosmic “quakes”
[29:03] – Prince of Persia – spiritual war & delayed prayer
[35:18] – Legal structures in the spirit realm
[47:18] – Michael the Archangel’s relationship to Israel
[54:00] – Crosses, icons, and Christian "testimony"
[62:02] – Daniel 11–12: reading and unpacking
[75:43] – "Those who know their God..." (Daniel 11:32)
[99:35] – Resurrection: "some to everlasting life, some to contempt"
[113:11] – Escalating light and darkness, exhortation to choose sides
[117:48] – Final exhortation: “get in the game,” take your spiritual role seriously

Final Thoughts

This episode of Nephilim Death Squad delivers its trademark blend of biblical literacy, irreverence, and spiritual provocation. By using Daniel’s visions as a launchpad, the hosts break down complex issues surrounding spiritual warfare, authentic faith, cultural Christianity, and the urgency of choosing sides in a fracturing world. The chemistry between hosts and guest produces both comic relief and moments of piercing sincerity—an ideal listen for conspiracy-curious, spiritually restless, or devoutly unconventional seekers.

Listen if you want:

A unique, unvarnished take on Daniel’s prophecies
Honest wrestling with what it means to be spiritual, weird, or “rough around the edges” in the church
Practical exhortation to live out personal faith—no matter how odd your story is

Skip if you’re seeking:

Mainstream, sanitized apologetics
A strictly academic or reverent tone
“Safe” and controversy-free Bible study

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[00:01]
Matt
Hey, this is Sarah. Look, I'm standing out front of a.m. p.m. Right now and well, you're sweet and all, but I found something more fulfilling. Even kind of cheesy. But I like it. Sure, you met some of my dietary needs, but they've just got it all. So farewell, Oatmeal. So long, you strange soggy. Break up with bland breakfast and taste AM PM's bacon, egg and cheese biscuit.
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Top Lobster
Made with ktree eggs, smoked bacon and.
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Matt
Melty cheese on a buttery biscuit. AM P M. Too much. Good stuff.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What do you think makes the perfect snack?
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Top Lobster
Hmm, it's gotta be when I'm really.
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Matt
Craving it and it's convenient.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Could you be more specific? When it's cravenient. Okay, like a freshly baked cookie made.
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Matt
With real butter available right down the street at a.m. p.m. Or a savory breakfast sandwich I can grab in just a second at AM pm.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm seeing a pattern here.
[00:48]
Matt
Well, yeah, we're talking about what I.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Crave, which is anything from AM pm.
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Matt
What more could you want? Stop by AMPM where the snacks and drinks are perfectly craveable and convenient.
[00:57]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's cravenience.
[00:58]
Matt
It's AMPM Too much. Good stuff. Limu Emu and Doug, here we have.
[01:04]
Top Lobster
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[01:07]
Matt
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Top Lobster
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Matt
Fascinating. It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us?
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Matt
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[01:31]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven. That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. With all of the tchotchkes and the decor on his side of the room and not my side of the room. Before we get into today's episode, I just want to tell you guys where you can support us. And that is patreon.com forward/nephilim death Squad. We're not gonna. This episode goes out in its entirety. But if you were looking, how do I support? Maybe if I want to make a five figure donation to the boys. How would I do that? Patreon.com forward/nephilimdesk early access to episodes ad free viewing experiences. Early access to Bohemian Grove tickets. When they drop. They are dropping. First week of March is what we're looking at. It's gonna be a VIP day And a big performance day. If you want to be a part of it, Patreon's where you're gonna want to be. Also, discount codes off of merchandise from Toplopsa.com show them what we got. All kinds of stuff.
[02:18]
Top Lobster
All kinds of stuff. I feel bad. I just chastised Matt over here. It's like, don't tap on the table. We can't tap on the table. But you can get this really neat. It's all in the.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, I'm wearing that one. I even got the matching shoes.
[02:29]
Matt
It does look like you.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It looks a lot like David has a.
[02:31]
Top Lobster
He has got a real problem.
[02:32]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[02:33]
Top Lobster
Matching. Let's just go. Matt's here.
[02:35]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Matt.
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Top Lobster
Dave has a problem with Matt. Do me a favor. Look at his shoes.
[02:39]
Matt
Are they already starting with the face thing? I'm not doing.
[02:42]
Top Lobster
You're starting with the face.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, you're starting, and you end with the face thing. You begin with it, you end in it. It's also the middle part.
[02:48]
Top Lobster
His shoes never match his clothes.
[02:49]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, my shoes do. I don't know if you could see these.
[02:52]
Matt
That you played for the Steelers. That's not matching anything, dude.
[02:54]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, it is.
[02:55]
Matt
Can you show.
[02:56]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I got these on, right? And they're super dope. Right? But then if you look at. Look at the shoes he's wearing. Look at the shoes the egg is wearing.
[03:03]
Top Lobster
I mean. But no, he keeps coming in very disrespectfully with, like, he's wearing, like, a sloppy gray T shirt.
[03:09]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah. Matches with sketchers.
[03:11]
Matt
It's a wife beater.
[03:12]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And it's. No, no. We're talking about your thing. Ladies and gentlemen, we'd like to start a fund, and that is get Matt out of Skechers fund.
[03:19]
Top Lobster
Well, listen, our fans would. They would gladly donate.
[03:23]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Some of them will even donate as much as to the. Before we get into the book of Daniel, we have to. We have to talk about something. There's a bit of an elephant in the room, and that elephant is. We recently did an episode. It was a blue letter Bible.
[03:35]
Top Lobster
Oh, we're really just gonna do it.
[03:37]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm doing it. I don't care.
[03:38]
Matt
You are the one who said, let's not bring it.
[03:40]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But we're gonna be reasonable about it. We're gonna be gentlemen about it. We're gonna be kind and. And all these other things. But Blue letter Bible. We did an episode, and look.
[03:47]
Matt
Which I love.
[03:48]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
They never commissioned.
[03:49]
Matt
I'm incredibly grateful for.
[03:50]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
They never said, hey, guys, do a thing for us. We were just highlighting how cool of a tool Blue Letter Bible is. And I still believe that it is. One thing led to another. The episode worked its way up. Management and. And they eventually became aware of the episode. Now, it's my understanding, lots of people that were not in the upper echelons of the 501C3 system that, you know, is Blue Letter Bible, whatever, they loved it. Once it got to those guys, they said, denounce, denounce, denounce, disavow, disavow.
[04:17]
Top Lobster
And I get it.
[04:18]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
They asked us to pull the episode down, so we had to pull the episode down.
[04:21]
Matt
Now, did we pull it down?
[04:23]
Top Lobster
I pulled it down.
[04:24]
Matt
We might be still available for Patreon people, though.
[04:27]
Top Lobster
Yeah, I mean, I might pull it down there too, because we don't want.
[04:29]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Anybody to know about Letter Bible here.
[04:32]
Top Lobster
Our patrons are generous.
[04:33]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
They're very generous. Here's what I want to say. This is the part that really kind of bums me out. If there was any part of this that bums me out. I understand. We're off putting, right? Yeah. I make a great effort to be off putting. So when it. When it happens, I go, really nailed it. But the thing that kind of bums me out is it's come to our understanding that a lot of people who support nds.
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Top Lobster
Hey, could you pass me one of those things over there?
[04:51]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Little tchotchkes. Look at this beautiful thing that I have. You can have one.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, that's the one I wanted.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So. So it's come to my understanding that people who support NDS have went out of their way because you guys are awesome. To support Blue Letter Bible. Now, some people have made sizable donations, the biggest donations, because NDS fans are the best.
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Top Lobster
I don't think this is even true. Like, the.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He could be lying.
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Matt
Oh, you guys saw the text thread? Like, no, I know. We had a phone conversation, and I just. You said you weren't gonna bring it up. You were the one who was like, no, don't bring it.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, because we talked about a lot.
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Top Lobster
Here's the thing. This is a conspiracy show first and foremost.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So you think it's a conspiracy that they.
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Top Lobster
I don't even think it was a real place.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's true.
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Matt
It's totally a real place.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Apparently, this donation, what we have, you're.
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Matt
In a different time zone. Like, that's what's intriguing about it was he was giving a Dude was watching nds, he loves Blue Letter Bible, and he threw him some cash, and that's awesome.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Some cash is an understatement. We're talking worth of a donation here, among other donations that came from a lot of other people. And I just want those people to be aware that they don't really mess with nds. So the money that you gave to the organization that we supported then, I.
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Matt
Do think is a great.
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Top Lobster
Wasn't me.
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Matt
Do we start over? What do we do now?
[05:59]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Nope. I'm just saying it.
[06:01]
Top Lobster
Should we edit the episode?
[06:02]
Matt
Do we nix it now? No, I just don't want to put them on blast like that. Plus, I don't know that it was even okay that we said that there was a donor, because that's kind of rude of me, because the guy was like, hey, man, we got some.
[06:11]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, the donors are my homies. It is what it is. And they actually reached out to us and told us. There was like five different people that reached out to us that told us. I made that up. I just wanted to soften the blow down. Whoever.
[06:20]
Top Lobster
I just wanted to read the book of Daniel.
[06:21]
Matt
All right, all right.
[06:22]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So. So to the people who supported, who liked the episode.
[06:25]
Top Lobster
Wait.
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Matt
But I feel like that was so unclear. What just happened. You just kind of like. And so anybody watching is probably like, wait, so what happened?
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So basically what they just told us to take down the episode. They didn't like that there was some swearing in our intro. They didn't like that there was a gunshot in the intro.
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Matt
Like, no, I didn't. Nobody knows that. I didn't. Nobody knows that it was that. It was just that, like, they had some issues.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He goes, clarify. And then you clarify. And he goes like, no, no, because.
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Matt
I want to clarify, not unclarify. So they. So, yeah, they just wanted to distance themselves from it, which for all of us, like, that's no shocker, right? Like, normally it's no shot normal 501c3 people, they don't want to be associated with the shoulder.
[06:59]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Honestly, it was. It was a shock that you ever recommended that this happen and that you thought that it would go well.
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Matt
Well, I don't care. Like, to me, Blue Letter Bible is a. If it's for anybody, it's for conspiracy theory people. Because what apparently people do is research. So, like, yeah, Blue Letter Bible is the ultimate research tool. And so, like, I don't know. It's just weird for me because if they were like the local Baptist church, it's one thing, and they don't want to be associated with conspiracy theory stuff, but it's a search engine for the Bible.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't think it's weird.
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Matt
Well, there's like, why?
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Who.
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Matt
Who would you not want to be associated with? I would want to be associated with everybody in the universe. If I'm a Bible search engine, I'd want, like, wild people checking it, normal people checking it, like, whatever. Yeah, but I've told you guys before, I have loved ones people checking it. If I send them an episode, they're like, yeah, I'm not even gonna watch this because I can't get through the intro.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Which is fine and it's understandable. But what I want to tell people now is if you were using letter Bible before now, what you're gonna have to do is you're have to personally message me. I will translate the things for you. I cannot tell you guys.
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Matt
Just don't remember what it was like to be like a normal person. Like, I remember I've never been where you just, like, believe that you news and you just believe what's going on. And so people who live in that world. I'm not offended if they see the intro and they're like, no, who's offended?
[08:09]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm not offended.
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Top Lobster
I thought the intro was the least offensive part of the show. But here's what I will say about the blue letter Bible people.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right, take it easy.
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Top Lobster
I didn't even say anything.
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Matt
This is where it gets serious. No, but when you come in, it is kind of.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Because now I'm gonna tell you. Okay, I think that they have sinned, meaning they missed the mark.
[08:26]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay. They're big archery fans. Yeah.
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Top Lobster
When I was talking to Jake, I was like, do you know this person? Do you know that person? Do you know this person? And they're like, no, no, no. And I was like, incredible. Because they make up millions and millions of views of people who use your product specifically. And you don't know them. You've missed the mark. They're not in touch with the people who are actually using to the streets. And it is what it is. I don't really have much more to say about it. Good luck.
[08:49]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, shout out to blue letter Bible. All right, so let's get into the continuation of the Book of.
[08:53]
Top Lobster
Am I off? There is a little.
[08:55]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We're making.
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Matt
No, it's just hard for me because it's this thing that's had this huge impact on my life. Dude, I love them. And then if they did that, I'm not saying I'm, like, disappointed. I just. Like, we talked about it earlier. Like, we had to have some biblical context for this dude. Like, Jesus comes onto the earth, he can Pick anybody he wants. He picks this dude, Peter, who's not afraid to cut a dude's head off.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like.
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Matt
Like, they're in the garden. And Peter goes for his sword. It's not a fairy tale. He goes for his sword. He goes to chop a dude's head off.
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Top Lobster
Yeah.
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Matt
And he. And the dude bobs and weaves a little bit, and he just gets the ear. Right.
[09:27]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Right.
[09:27]
Matt
But, like, this is the type of dude that Jesus is. Like, I want him in my camp. Like, I want him on the team.
[09:32]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[09:32]
Matt
So, like, this whole thing, guys got a strong. We don't want, like, offensive people or people who are a little off the rocker a little bit. Like, I'm just saying it's not biblical, bro. Like, look at the. Look at the apostle Paul. Like, he's hailing men and women off to prison. He's going in their house and pulling them off and taking them to prison before he comes to know the Lord. And then look at his life when he comes to know the Lord. That's not a normal sweet 501C3. Like, chick fil a happy hits bumper sticker, no cuss words type of people. So, like, the church should be willing to associate with people people. But the blue letter Bibles are a little wild.
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Top Lobster
I like how everything you said was fine, but he was like, you're talking about food now.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, the Chick Fil a thing, you need to. You need to relax a little bit on that. But they're not a church.
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Matt
You know what I'm talking about?
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah. They're not a church, though.
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Matt
I know what. I guess maybe they are, right? Like, if we've been watching the Nathan Apfeld thing, the religious business, like, he's showing that everything is listed as a church because then you don't have to list out. You're like, is that the case?
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't know that they're. I'm not saying that.
[10:22]
Matt
I don't know. I don't know. But nevertheless, they're obviously American church culture people, which is cool. It's whatever. Like, there's nothing wrong with that. But those are the type of people that wouldn't want to be associated with a show like this.
[10:33]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You know what? I think we need to get it.
[10:34]
Top Lobster
Well, so the previous episode, Jacob Israel did bring up a good point about. About Peter. And Peter, he didn't do the right thing when he attacked this guy, although that's in his character. So he went off, he took that, and he was like, listen, he wasn't supposed to do that. Jesus condemned Him. And then Peter also did deny Jesus three times after. But I said, yeah, but then. But Jesus chose Peter, knowing he do those things to build his church upon. He named him the rock. And it's like there's something about that character where I'm not saying that person should stay there. I'm not saying that, like, I'm right for doing the show and perhaps like, our journey's not over here, but I think that, that the people who should know better should be able to look at this and be like, okay, there's something there. You know what I mean? Rather than hit it with the stick, push it away. I think it's really stupid.
[11:19]
Matt
I don't think we have any issue with a football team, like, getting a guy on the team like Bill Romanowski. I used to hate him when played on the Broncos, but I used to. Then I was a Raider fan back in the day. And then they got him on the Raiders. He'd like spit in people's face and stuff. So you hated him when he was on the enemy's team, but when he was on your team, you loved him. And I know this is super offensive.
[11:36]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Wow.
[11:37]
Matt
But like, look at Samson. Samson's in Hebrews 11. There's not just a story about Samson and Judges. Samson's in Hebrews 11. So just chew on that for a minute and just come to terms with the reality that God's putting together an army. He's putting together a team. He's not looking for sweet little cupcakes. Like, I get it. That the 501C3 system with announcements, five songs and a speech is looking for sweet little, little cupcakes to come in and be in their little group and sit in the little chairs and have a nice little comfortable, luxurious time. But that's not the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God is looking for hard hitting, like people who are rough around the edges and people who are willing to get things done. And I think the Bible is over and over and over with examples of that. And I just think people need to come to terms with that.
[12:18]
Top Lobster
Look at the screen right now. Look at the glow. It looks good. Oh, my God.
[12:21]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It looks good.
[12:21]
Top Lobster
The man is.
[12:22]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He looks a little. But it looks good.
[12:24]
Matt
This man is aura. Yeah. I love this.
[12:27]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right, all right, let's. Can we read the Bible instead of you getting really bad?
[12:30]
Matt
You guys have to do stuff.
[12:32]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, we already finished that.
[12:33]
Matt
Okay.
[12:34]
Top Lobster
I found, I found a good website.
[12:35]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
If you could redirect that five figure donation. Okay. Please continue.
[12:39]
Matt
Okay. Daniel, chapter 10. So we just wrapped up nine because we're in 10.
[12:42]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can you do an 11? Can you do a little recap?
[12:45]
Matt
We're doing 10, 11 and 12.
[12:47]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Daniel was.
[12:47]
Matt
Why do you never. You do so many shows that. This show with me is.
[12:51]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can you talk it to the microphone?
[12:52]
Matt
And it hurts.
[12:52]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I wish you would do that. So Daniel talked about the beast, right. And these different things that he's seeing and, and that was the last one that we got into. And. And he kind of came out the other end being like, don't know, dog.
[13:02]
Matt
Okay, I see what you did there. You talked about the beast. Cuz that's like all through though.
[13:06]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That, that theme comes over and it's just like the same thing, but through different interpretations, different visions of it.
[13:12]
Top Lobster
Why do we have two Bibles here? You got the big Bible, you got this other.
[13:15]
Matt
I just feel like chapter 11 goes long. It goes very long and it spells out a very. That like, I just don't want it to drag on and people like what in the King James are gonna be like, what? So I just bought NLT because it's a little bit clearer to read through.
[13:28]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay, well I don't want this whole episode to be about Blue Letter Bible and how they, they spiked us. So can we, can we keep.
[13:32]
Matt
Why did you just bring it back up?
[13:34]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, because I felt like that you were about to and I just wanted you off.
[13:36]
Matt
I love blue letter Bible. Grateful for them.
[13:39]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Let's do another episode for them.
[13:41]
Matt
And I feel like the story's not over. I think, you know, like give this some time and especially as you guys kind of move and shift and they move and shift and maybe, you know, everybody will come to.
[13:49]
Top Lobster
Hey, you know, maybe, maybe we could redirect that five figure donation to his sneaker. No, we do our own blue letter Bible where we don't do that stuff. Oh, oh, oh. What we.
[14:00]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So me and you, you send us the thing we out.
[14:03]
Matt
You said I'm like more than a guest. We know, but he just literally it's.
[14:07]
Top Lobster
Going to be called the standard Bible.
[14:09]
Matt
Can we come to terms like, am I just a guest or am I like kind of part of the team? I'm not saying I'm like original member of the team. It's like a band where they. There's the original question, then they bring in another guy. He's not like one of the founding members, but he's part of the team.
[14:22]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how I feel about what some people Were pretty upset with you on your last episode. I remember. What about? I think it was how angry you look all the time.
[14:29]
Matt
I'm gonna get the picture of him going in the chat. Did he just.
[14:32]
Top Lobster
Yes.
[14:33]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's. Nobody's gonna use that as a meme. We actually use Matt's angry face as a meme. It's on Twitter. You're not even on Twitter. That meme is on Twitter.
[14:40]
Matt
Okay, just to be clear, my mom said that when I was a little kid, that when I'd get my hair cut, that I would just kind of, like, scowl like that. So it's just a thing. It's just a thing. Daniel, chapter 10, verse 1. In the third year of Cyrus, king of Persia, a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Beltechazar. And the thing was true, but the time appointed was long, and he understood the thing and had understanding of the vision.
[15:01]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Dude, I kind of already want to stop you. I'm sorry. Wait. In. In the time of King Cyrus of Persia, a thing was revealed to Daniel, and the thing's name was Belteshazzar. That sounds so.
[15:12]
Matt
No, the thing. No, it doesn't Say.
[15:14]
Top Lobster
You're not reading it right. Look at it.
[15:15]
Matt
His name was Belteshazzar.
[15:17]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's.
[15:17]
Matt
Yeah, there we go. Yeah. No. Okay, let's have a little respect here.
[15:21]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Please don't show that.
[15:22]
Matt
Cyrus, king of Persia. We already talked about Darius the Mead. So the Medes and Persians, that was the empire ruling at the time. For whatever reason. It's referencing Cyrus per. Of Persia, But Darius the Mead. The same team.
[15:33]
Top Lobster
There's supposed to get water or something. What happened?
[15:36]
Matt
Somebody get it? Do you. Did you text them or you.
[15:38]
Top Lobster
I don't have.
[15:39]
Matt
We need a bell.
[15:39]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like, if we had a string that we could pull, and the string ran across the ceiling into the shop and we could ring it for. For a drink. That would be great.
[15:46]
Top Lobster
Yeah.
[15:46]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay. So in the third year of King Cyrus, a thing was revealed to Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazar. And the thing was true, but the time appointed was long, and he understood the thing and had understanding of the vision. Man, that. I'm sorry, that just really confuses me.
[16:06]
Matt
Well, it's. It's intriguing because this one, he's. He has understanding. Remember in 827.
[16:11]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't.
[16:11]
Matt
We read that. Like, he didn't understand it. We were kind of making the point that, like, there's all these dudes that have the charts and the graphs and the calendars and they so called understand everything. Sure. Like, Daniel didn't understand it. Okay, so this one he kind of understand English.
[16:24]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Says raven is a. Hey, that's not nice, Jason.
[16:26]
Matt
What? Did he say something?
[16:28]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He said that Raven is. I'll allow it.
[16:30]
Matt
Okay. In those days, I, Daniel, was mourning three full weeks. I ate no pleasant bread. Neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth. Neither did I anoint myself at all till the three whole weeks were fulfilled.
[16:41]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
This is.
[16:42]
Matt
There's a lot in this, too. So he didn't eat pleasant bread, he didn't drink wine, and he didn't eat meat.
[16:48]
Top Lobster
He didn't anoint himself. What does that mean?
[16:50]
Matt
He didn't use, like, lotions. He didn't use anything that brought, like, comfort. Dude, he was mourning. And the real intriguing thing here is like, did God put that on him? Did God be like, hey, dude, there's something you need to be sensitive to right now, and it's going to be subtle, and I just need you in like a very, very humble, low place right now. Oh, we got to go to the camera.
[17:11]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We got to go to the camera.
[17:12]
Matt
Hold on a second. He was asking the door.
[17:14]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Come on in. Wait, where's the. You got to get the logo in the.
[17:18]
Top Lobster
You're good. Thank you. Thank you very much.
[17:20]
Matt
Okay, that's a little much.
[17:21]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We were just showing how it. Thank you very much. No, this one's for me, guys. Shout out to standard coffee shop.
[17:27]
Top Lobster
Thank you.
[17:28]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I do have a question for the audience. Really quickly. You, as a. As a Christ loving conspiracy theorists, why are you not drinking coffee from the standard coffee shop? And I don't want an answer from that, from the chat. I just want you guys to think about.
[17:40]
Top Lobster
Don't put your heavy elbow on my laptop.
[17:42]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Get your useless laptop out of here.
[17:44]
Top Lobster
It's just like.
[17:45]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, I mean, it's in my elbow space. Please take it away. Okay, I'm sorry, Matt, for the interruption. Go ahead.
[17:51]
Matt
So, okay, so what it does mean is that. Thank you for that.
[17:54]
Top Lobster
Oh, this is great.
[17:55]
Matt
So what it does mean is that during certain times, he was eating meat and he was.
[18:03]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
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[18:30]
Matt
Visit energytrust.org eating flesh. He was eating meat, and he was eating pleasant bread. And he also was drinking wine, which I know some church folks are going to get offended by that. But if he was refraining from pleasant bread, meat and wine, that means in his normal life, he was drinking wine. So people are offended by that. But that's just what the scripture says. Another thing to note here.
[18:53]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is it offensive to drink wine?
[18:54]
Matt
Some people, man. So another thing in here is that this is a form of a fast. Some people are like, no, it's only a fast if you eat nothing. That's not true, man. Like this dude. Anytime you refrain from food that's available to you, that's a fast, right? Like, Paul talked about starvings and fastings. So starving is when you don't have access to food. I'm not going to get into that with you right now. Fasting is when you do have access to food and you refrain from it. And it can be on a high level, to a low level. It could be like, nothing, like eating nothing, or it could be just refraining from, like, luxurious foods. And that's what Daniel was doing for three full weeks. And. And then in the. In the 24th day of the first month, as I was by the side of the great river, which is Hitekel, which they say is the Tigris river, then I lifted up my eyes and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Ufaz. His body also was like the barrel in his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in color to polished brass. And the voice of his words, like the voice of a multitude.
[19:59]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is there, like, a source we could use to figure out, like, what barrel means? It'll be great if we had a tool to use.
[20:05]
Matt
Well, b e the whole show.
[20:07]
Top Lobster
Yl I like the voice. His. The voice of his words were like the voice of a multitude. It's. I mean, we've. We've seen it in movies where, like, someone will talk to a person that. It's just like, like seven voices, dude.
[20:20]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I was listening to an episode just yesterday where a guy encountered something and he's like. And when it spoke to me, it spoke to me like 50 different voices all at once. But I am fascinated.
[20:31]
Top Lobster
You remember that. That recording that we heard of from Lauren from.
[20:35]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, that was horrifying.
[20:37]
Top Lobster
Yeah, it's a. It's a crazy recording. The dude.
[20:39]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, that's interesting. Beryl is a transparent pale green, blue or yellow mineral.
[20:44]
Matt
We're not getting into the rocks, dude. Like the urum and the thumum and the whole thing on the breastplate.
[20:48]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What's the matter with the rocks? You got a problem with.
[20:50]
Matt
No, it's heavy, bro. That's a heavy.
[20:52]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, that's what we talked about with Ed May remember the importance of gemstones, you know, sort of in their significance is applied to various things throughout the Bible. The code of many colors, the. The foundations of New Jerusalem things.
[21:04]
Matt
This is another thing that's getting hijacked by the New Age. They're getting the crystal hijacking, dude. They be hijacking.
[21:09]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And I like a crystal. I like a good crystal, but they do be hijacking him.
[21:14]
Matt
Okay, so it looks like some people would think this is none other than the Lord Jesus. Like, this is the same view that John had in the island of Patmos in the book of Revelation. But Daniel says this. And I, Daniel alone saw the vision. For the men that were with me saw not the vision, but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves. Therefore, I was left alone. I guess I do want to say this, actually right now.
[21:39]
Top Lobster
You can say whatever you want.
[21:40]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Get it off your chest. What about the.
[21:41]
Matt
If people are going to walk with God? No, not that it's going to be a lonely walk. I just want to say that. I just want to make that clear to people because I think there's people who think they're going to be, like, super close to God and they're going to be this one who's, like, close to him and loves him, and they're going to have a ton of friends. And I'm just saying, biblically, it's not really like that, dude. Like. Like a lot of times people who walk with God, they walk alone.
[22:02]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We're with you and stuff.
[22:03]
Top Lobster
Well, Daniel, super close to God.
[22:05]
Matt
You guys are my guys.
[22:06]
Top Lobster
Okay?
[22:06]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That felt.
[22:07]
Top Lobster
Daniel's super close to God. And there's only 12 chapters here of, like, instances in which he had people around him. Well, I mean, just like instances in which he's interacting with in a meaningful way. He seems like he's kind of like, alone for.
[22:20]
Matt
Bro, look at a lot of people, dude. Like Paul, when he gets converted, he goes off to Arabia for three years. He's alone.
[22:25]
Top Lobster
Like, Matt, look at you.
[22:28]
Matt
Moses, bro, he comes out of Egypt, right? He goes to kill the man. Pharaoh finds out about it. Moses flees. He's on the backside of the desert for 40 years alone. And I just. I don't know. Like, people just think, like, it's going to be playtime. They're going to be best friends with all these people. I'm just saying, like, the man of God, this is only for people who are going to hear it, where this is going to matter for. It's not going to matter for everybody. But people who are serious about their walk with God, like, don't be offended if it's a lonely walk. That's all I'm saying.
[22:53]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What do you think happens here? Because he says they don't share in the vision, but they still flee. So what is it that they're experiencing that makes them flee?
[23:02]
Matt
Did they hear the voice? Hold on, let's look.
[23:04]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Because it says that they don't hear it.
[23:06]
Matt
I think they heard the voice. It's similar to when Paul gets struck down on the Damascus road. The dudes with him, same thing. Like, they. They could hear the voice but didn't see the vision. I hope I'm not.
[23:19]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So he says, I, Daniel alone saw the vision, for the men that were with me saw not the vision. Oh, but a great quaking fell upon them, so they fled to hide themselves. That's either them trembling with fear or them feeling a physical shaking of the earth.
[23:33]
Top Lobster
I really wish we had a tool that we could look up.
[23:35]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like it was a tool. Yeah, but I mean, you know, are.
[23:38]
Matt
We gonna do this forever now?
[23:39]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We're just crazy, honestly.
[23:42]
Top Lobster
It's up to you. It's up to you if we're gonna do this forever.
[23:45]
Matt
Who, the fans?
[23:46]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, we'll stop when you ask us to stop.
[23:50]
Matt
I love how the raven was like, nah, man, we're just not gonna bring.
[23:52]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We're just playing.
[23:53]
Matt
And then he totally brought it up.
[23:54]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, well, you. Anyway, so. So, but that's interesting there.
[23:57]
Top Lobster
What do you think is gonna be me?
[23:59]
Matt
I, dude, spirit realm. Like, cut through. Like, cut through the natural realm.
[24:03]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And they were like, it was there.
[24:05]
Matt
And, like, although they couldn't see it, Daniel was the only one that could, like, see. And maybe it even means, like, comprehend it. Like, maybe Daniel's the only one that could, like, comprehend what was happening. And these dudes were just like, yo, we don't have any reference points for this. Like, when the sky gets split and the natural realm just gets split and the spirit realm enters. Like, we don't have a grid for this. Like, we. We don't know what's going on.
[24:22]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So they just abandoned the home, terrified. That's, like, what happened. What was that dude that got hit with the blast from the ufo? Remember that story top? It was like, him and a bunch of other country boys out on a road, and it was one of the really early abduction experiences. But one thing leads to another. He ends up getting abducted right in front of them, and they all flee, and then they feel, like, remorseful for having fled. And he does, like, reappear later on, but he is.
[24:44]
Top Lobster
Yeah, that's the story where they. They kind of accuse the friends for.
[24:47]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
A while of murdering.
[24:48]
Top Lobster
Murdering the dude.
[24:48]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, basically moral of the story is supernatural stuff pops off the homies. They slide.
[24:54]
Top Lobster
Well, I mean. Yeah, exactly. No, it's. And this is.
[24:57]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You got. If you got supernatural, I'd be like.
[25:00]
Top Lobster
David'S out here, if you guys know. But my aunt, the same one with the roof, the whole thing. I was hanging out with her yesterday, and she saw a mothership. Yeah, like, her and my uncle. I know it's a real story, but yesterday. No, I'll show you.
[25:13]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Go ahead, make the face. Just.
[25:14]
Matt
No, I'm just asking. Why did you just make a face on the mothership yesterday? Or you're saying she told the story yesterday of something she saw, like, 10 years ago?
[25:20]
Top Lobster
No, it just reminded me of. Because she had told me this story a while ago. Here you go. Check that out. Matt, because you're an unbeliever. That's the New York Post from, like, the 1980s.
[25:28]
Matt
Onions report, 11th hour.
[25:31]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, look at the way he.
[25:34]
Top Lobster
Close Encounters Over Brooklyn. Was it a bird? Was it a plane? Was it a ufo? Everybody in Brooklyn saw this thing.
[25:40]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
His ability to lie, disturbing. It's crazy.
[25:42]
Matt
It was on show him the Thing. So. Yeah.
[25:44]
Top Lobster
Yeah, it was. It's a different article, though. This is a newspaper.
[25:46]
Matt
Okay. I was just reading the big.
[25:48]
Top Lobster
They have. Yeah, this is really the. The one here that you're going to want to read that whole thing. But basically, in. When was this. This is in 1978.
[25:57]
Matt
Okay. I'm not. I'm not trying to, like, make the funny face at that. I just was. I don't think you're ever trying to finish my story.
[26:03]
Top Lobster
So a UFO zipped across all of Brooklyn. Everybody saw it. Nobody said anything until the next morning when they were. Someone was on the radio, and the jockey was like, hey, did anyone see anything in the sky? And then people start calling in, and I asked my uncle, I said, what happened? They look out their balcony. They see it eye level. They say, this thing is, like, spinning, like. Like light spinning around It. And it's as big as a four lane, as wide as a four lane intersection, where they're. Where they're at. And I go, well, what did you do? And they said it zipped away. And then I. Then they just sat down and watched Jeopardy. And went to sleep. Didn't. Didn't even address it. So it's like how people react to these supernatural events is like.
[26:41]
Matt
Seems a little strange, but.
[26:43]
Top Lobster
Yeah, it's like. It's almost like your mind doesn't know where to put it. So he's just like, whatever. And then they just back out. That's all I did.
[26:49]
Matt
I see. Yeah.
[26:49]
Top Lobster
You know, they're like, I don't know how to.
[26:50]
Matt
Well, they went a little more than that, though. They were like shaking and terrified.
[26:53]
Top Lobster
Yeah. Yeah. So. But you don't know exactly what you're going to do because stuff.
[26:57]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I know what I'm going to do.
[26:58]
Matt
Yeah. Sorry for the face.
[26:59]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's fine.
[26:59]
Matt
Okay. Therefore I was left alone and saw this great vision. And there remained no strength in me. For my comeliness was turned in me into corruption. And I retained no strength. Yet heard I the voice of his words. And when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face and my face toward the ground. And behold, a hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands. And he said unto me, oh, Daniel, a man greatly beloved. Understand the words that I speak unto thee and stand upright, for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling.
[27:28]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is this the second time that Daniel's phone, like, like multiple times?
[27:31]
Matt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[27:32]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He just like. Like straight up passing out. So.
[27:34]
Matt
Yeah, so he's an og though. This is not like a rookie guy who just.
[27:38]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, this is like so old news that he's like, I'll have a nap.
[27:40]
Matt
No, no, I'm saying no matter what, like, it's still be. It's still so powerful. That's like when angels show up and they say, don't fear, like, not take a nap. That's why it's always a little weird when you get in the church circles and people are like, yeah, an angel visited me yesterday and the day before that too, and I had all these conversations. Like, yeah, I don't know, man. Like, probably when visionary stuff happens, people are terrified.
[27:59]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[28:01]
Matt
Okay, so then, yo, this gets. This gets wild. Okay, so verse 12. Then said he unto me. Fear not, Daniel, for from the first day that you did set your heart to understand and to chasten yourself before thy God. Thy words were heard, and I'm come for thy words.
[28:16]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Damn. So is he basically saying, like, since the first day you purposed yourself into the service of God, I. I've been what I. I come for?
[28:24]
Top Lobster
That's been praying for three weeks?
[28:26]
Matt
Right?
[28:26]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We.
[28:26]
Matt
We. The what? We opened up with that. He said he's been praying for three weeks, for 21 days. This is the 21th day. 21st day.
[28:33]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
21.
[28:34]
Top Lobster
Get this guy out of here.
[28:35]
Matt
21 day.
[28:36]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
[28:38]
Top Lobster
To Tohua Bo.
[28:39]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
To who? Bohu, baby.
[28:41]
Matt
Oh, no. I'm not doing this.
[28:42]
Top Lobster
So he started moving from day one, he's like, we heard you. We started moving.
[28:45]
Matt
Moving. Right, right. But it takes 21 days to get from the spirit realm to the natural realm.
[28:48]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's crazy. That's a long time.
[28:50]
Top Lobster
Was he taking Spirit Airlines?
[28:51]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Ooh, could be Spirit Airlines.
[28:53]
Matt
No, you guys, come on. You got to pay attention. You should have a Bible open in front of you. It's not because it takes 21 days to get from heaven to earth, okay? It's because the prince of the kingdom of persia withstood me 21 days.
[29:04]
Top Lobster
Damn dog.
[29:04]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is that the next line?
[29:05]
Matt
Come on.
[29:06]
Top Lobster
Yeah, we know the story. Yeah, yeah, we're letting you. We're letting you.
[29:09]
Matt
No, he's. He doesn't. He's got like.
[29:11]
Top Lobster
Like you don't know the story.
[29:12]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, I know the story.
[29:14]
Matt
He blanked for a minute.
[29:15]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I did blank.
[29:15]
Matt
It's okay. You're my guy.
[29:17]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's okay. Unbelievable. Look at these. Bible shaming me. I can't read.
[29:23]
Matt
So there's a lot here. There's a lot here. Yeah, there's a lot here. There's a messenger. We don't. We don't know. He's not named. In chapter 10, you assume it's Gabriel, like, if you've been tracking with the whole thing. But. So who knows? Maybe it's Gabriel, maybe it's not. But there's some messenger sent from heaven that, like, I don't know. This is just heavy to me because it's like, you hear this. There's a man on the earth praying. This has nothing to do with a war. Like, the Daniel represents Israel. There's no. Israel's not in war. There's not some crazy thing going on. It's just a normal day. One dude, not like a legion of dudes, not like a full army. One dude is praying, and it's moved heaven.
[30:01]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[30:02]
Matt
Now. Now. Heaven's on the move because of this one guy praying. And I just. Like, when I read this, I'm like, my prayer life is so weak, dude. Like, like my whole, like my whole understanding of prayer and my whole practice of prayer is so weak. And I just think maybe we've got to come to terms with like, exactly what's happening in prayer or what's possible in prayer and what's like, the reality of prayer, and it might make us proud. Me pray different. I just. I don't know. I just feel like, a little weak when I read that.
[30:36]
Top Lobster
Why do you think. Why do you think he was. It almost seems like there was a signal put out for him to pray in this manner.
[30:45]
Matt
Good point. Yeah.
[30:46]
Top Lobster
And then he did it because he felt it and he listened, then he did it. And then the guy was like, all right, then I'll move. But it's like he was cold, right? Because he's.
[30:52]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He's almost like a different kind of prayer.
[30:54]
Top Lobster
Well, yeah. I mean, from the beginning of the chapter, he is. He's mourning for three weeks and. And he's like fasting and he's not doing any. Something was.
[31:01]
Matt
We don't know, though. We don't know. Like, yeah, may. It seems like maybe put like a something on him. Something on him to just make him heavy for him to be like, okay, what. What is this? And only spiritually sensitive people would even notice, you know? He was like, okay, it's not business as usual right now. Like, this is not mowing the lawn and washing the car and playing the Facebook and doing the tick tock.
[31:21]
Top Lobster
Like, something's the Kardashians, right?
[31:24]
Matt
Yeah, there's something.
[31:25]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Steven.
[31:26]
Matt
Something's different right now. I wasn't going to say it. He's saying something's different. I don't know what's going on, but let me get at God. Like, let me get at God right now.
[31:34]
Top Lobster
Well, I think people feel like this all the time, though. People feel. I don't know everybody, but people feel that. The heaviness. Or they're like, oh, I'm in a funk.
[31:41]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Right? Yeah, yeah.
[31:43]
Top Lobster
It's like, well, what the hell does that mean? Daniel's gonna fast and pray? I guess that's what they're telling. Like, maybe that's what this means.
[31:48]
Matt
Fast and pray, dude. Fasting and praying is a great reset. Dude. Fasting is a great reset for your spirit and it's humbling yourself before go.
[31:55]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
When you fast. Are you doing like a. Because, you know, we were talking about the nature of Fasting before. Are you doing, like a no food?
[32:02]
Matt
I don't. I mean, I've done 24 hours with no food. I don't do. That's not much. But I've done a 21 day fruit and vegetable fast that, like, changed my life.
[32:09]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Interesting.
[32:11]
Matt
That completely changed. That's what it was called. Yeah. Because, like, he ate fruit and veg in chapter one.
[32:15]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay.
[32:15]
Matt
But, yeah, it was crazy. It was like, early on in the game too, because it was like. Well, my church was doing it. This church I was going to at the time was, like, doing a fast. And I, like. I think I was like, watering a plant with the hose in the front yard and a guy drove by too fast and I was like, hey, slow down. And then I was like, oh, you're.
[32:34]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
One of those people.
[32:34]
Matt
No, that's what I. Yeah, I was like, dude, no. I was like, what is going on? Like, what is happening to me? Like, I'm just turning into this, like, dad. I got the little kids and I'm just grumpy.
[32:44]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Making the face, dude.
[32:46]
Matt
Like, in a neighborhood, like, yelling at the guy. I was like, what's happened in my life? And I was like, no, man, I'm too hard for this, bro. Like, I stayed up eight days when I was 15 on meth. You know what I'm saying? I got kicked out of my house. I was 15. Like, I went to work full time when I was 16, and now I'm just turning into this soft guy, like, yelling at people, driving too fast.
[33:01]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, how fast was too fast?
[33:02]
Matt
I don't even remember. I just remember feeling, like, weird about it. And right then they were. They said, hey, we're gonna do this 21 day fruit and vegetable fast. I was like, I'm doing it. I gotta do something hard.
[33:11]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I just drinking, just crushing.
[33:12]
Matt
Yeah. I can't just be like this. No, I didn't drink any V8s, bro.
[33:15]
Top Lobster
Yeah.
[33:15]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like the tomato juice.
[33:16]
Top Lobster
You know how many. You know how much fruit and vegetables you could buy with.
[33:19]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, my God. Yeah. Anybody wants to donate to.
[33:22]
Matt
Okay. But anyway, I'm just saying, in that fast, bro. Like, and I lost, like £25. I'm not. That wasn't like. It was. It wasn't in. No. Yeah, no, I was in good shape, dude. I had a six pack when I started. I'm just saying, were you like, you.
[33:35]
Top Lobster
Are now or like.
[33:36]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Because you could lose a few.
[33:37]
Matt
Probably about what I am now, dude. Probably a little bit heavy. I'm just a little. It was an intense fast, bro.
[33:42]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[33:42]
Matt
And like, every night, crazy stuff was happening.
[33:45]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like, what kind of stuff?
[33:46]
Matt
Just intense.
[33:47]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Were you serious?
[33:48]
Top Lobster
Were you clear?
[33:50]
Matt
Because you love to say all your life, like, dreams and stuff, and I'm just like, I'm not.
[33:54]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I love to see my.
[33:55]
Matt
But just that stuff for me is kind of, like, super personal with me and God.
[33:58]
Top Lobster
I do need a button.
[33:59]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We need the button. Can you hit the dreams button? Does she have one? She doesn't have one.
[34:03]
Top Lobster
I agree with you, though. He told me personally. Thanks, Nancy. He's like, this guy got too many dreams. And I'm like, I think you're right.
[34:10]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's not my. It's not my fault. I just have a dream.
[34:12]
Top Lobster
Me and David did have competing dreams.
[34:14]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That happened.
[34:15]
Top Lobster
Yeah.
[34:15]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
When I blocked it out of my memory.
[34:19]
Top Lobster
We did not competing.
[34:21]
Matt
This is, like, one of the heaviest passages.
[34:22]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can you just read?
[34:23]
Matt
Yeah. Okay. So the prince of the kingdom of persia withstood me 21 days. This is the. This is an angel, bro. This is a. This is a representative of the kingdom of God in the spirit realm. And he's saying, dude, there's this creature in the spirit realm called the prince of the kingdom of Persia. That's so powerful. He kept me back for 21 days. But lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, and I remained there with the kings of Persia. Now I'm come to make you understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days. So. This is a lot, dude. This is a lot.
[34:53]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So, the latter days. What days is he talking about here?
[34:57]
Matt
Well, we'll get it. We'll get into it.
[34:59]
Top Lobster
13. We're talking about 13 still. There's so much in there. All right. This guy withstood him. Michael came, and then he remained there with the kings of Persia. Doing what?
[35:10]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Chilling.
[35:11]
Matt
I don't know, dude. Like, there, like, there's a spirit realm that I know everybody wants to just think it's like, la, la, la. Like, flu. Like, no, there's.
[35:18]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Everybody.
[35:19]
Matt
There's a thing going on in the spirit realm that was not going to be any different from, like, we have, like, courtrooms here. And, like, we have legalities. Like, we, like. We have laws. We have stuff going on in the natural realm. Same thing's going on in the spirit realm. For whatever reason, like, legally, the Prince of Persia was able to hold up this messenger. And then Michael came through. I don't think Michael came to, like, play games. Yeah, I don't think he came to, like, make a deal or talk through it. I think he came through and Just was like. Like, boom, he's through.
[35:50]
Top Lobster
Well, no, it doesn't say that. It says, he withstood me, but Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me. And then the next sentence is, and I remain there with the kings of Persia. It's like, if you have a messenger that's running through a battlefield and he's got, like, an important scroll, and he stopped by a kingdom, and the guy's like, you're gonna stay in one of these chambers for a little while until you figure out if you're a spy.
[36:11]
Matt
Yes.
[36:11]
Top Lobster
Like, what do you got? Like, so this. This messenger angel is holding something that's important. And. And basically this kingdom is like, what is that?
[36:18]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You could have this one, right? That's crazy.
[36:21]
Matt
Yes, dude, I love. Yeah, yeah. So it's like a messenger, he's running. He's got this scroll, and they're like, no, no, you're not getting through with the scroll. Where they, like, show us the scroll.
[36:30]
Top Lobster
Exactly. They probably want to see the scroll because it's significant. And I wonder if they did see it, and even if they did, would they have been able to translate it? Because Daniel can't even translate what. What's in this. Right? I mean, kind of.
[36:42]
Matt
Well, no. I mean, it says he had understanding on this one because it. Because it's. All. This is leading up to, like, chapter 11, where he goes through what the vision is.
[36:51]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But yeah, about the Mormons.
[36:52]
Matt
No, it's just heavy, though.
[36:54]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Latter Days. No, Latter Day Saints.
[36:57]
Matt
It's just heavy, though.
[36:58]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
How do you feel about the Mormons?
[37:02]
Top Lobster
He doesn't like the Mormons. I get it.
[37:04]
Matt
No. One of the intriguing things, though, is that, like, if you read any of the old Methodist circuit riders, which. Those are, like, legit men of God. The old Methodist circuit riders, like John Wesley in the Homies, would be so upset to see the modern Methodist Church. But the OG Methodist Church was like, John Wesley would set up circuit riders, basically, like representatives in territories, and they'd have a horse and a Bible, like, that's it. And they would have to claim that territory for the kingdom of God. I forget who it was. It might have been Peter Cartwright. It was one of the ones that was, like, out west, I think, like, ran into the dude, Joseph Smith, and was like, yo, this is a snake oil salesman. I've ever seen one. Like, if I've ever seen that about Joseph. This guy is, like a shyster.
[37:45]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You don't think something happened to him? A young Joseph Smith? I'm not saying that it was it was something.
[37:49]
Matt
You're, like, pro Mormon. I didn't realize. That's the thing that I always think about.
[37:54]
Top Lobster
No, I think. I think that he was in contact. Like, I think that Angel Moroni, whatever he was talking to, I think that was real. You determine what the nature of that angel is, though. Yeah.
[38:05]
Matt
Wait, you guys are offended to.
[38:07]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No. Well, I would.
[38:08]
Matt
I would appreciate if you would.
[38:10]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
If you would treat them with a little bit more respect.
[38:12]
Matt
Yeah. The Angel Jabroni. It doesn't matter, bro. Like, none of that matters, dude. Like, we have a Bible, bro. People adding to it or saying stuff or saying, God's not the only God. Like, whoa, I'm not getting into all.
[38:23]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is that what they say?
[38:24]
Matt
Yeah, God. And there is no other. I say the end from the beginning.
[38:30]
Top Lobster
All right.
[38:30]
Matt
Anyway, I'm not getting. But there's tons of Mormons I know and love. We've talked about this before. There's tons of Catholic people I know and loves. My favorite people on the planet.
[38:37]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I didn't know you had great disdain for the Mormons.
[38:40]
Matt
No, I have great love for the kingdom of God. And then I. And then I hate, like, all the other stuff. That's a faker of it, bro. But I love the humans. Like, I went to high school with tons of Mormons are like, the nicest people, bro. Like the nicest people. Family people.
[38:54]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So you love Mormons?
[38:55]
Matt
Yeah.
[38:56]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right, so what's the problem?
[38:57]
Matt
Quit jamming me up, man.
[38:59]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Stop getting jammed up so easy.
[39:01]
Matt
It's a fair statement.
[39:03]
Top Lobster
Do you see what he does, though?
[39:04]
Matt
Why is he like that?
[39:05]
Top Lobster
I don't know. He does it to me all the time. There you go.
[39:07]
Matt
I love this guy, though. Do you know we talked on the phone for an hour the other day? Did I tell you that? But he's offended by it.
[39:13]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can we. Tell me.
[39:15]
Top Lobster
I kind of want to talk about that. What was the conversation?
[39:17]
Matt
He talked for an hour.
[39:18]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm not gonna lie to you. I am gassy right now, okay? I am doing everything I can go and come back. No, I just said gassy, not solids. I just got no liquids. There's no solids. There's just gases.
[39:30]
Matt
This is so inappropriate.
[39:31]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can you please continue reading?
[39:32]
Matt
The.
[39:33]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Don't tell me.
[39:33]
Top Lobster
I get why Blue letter Bible doesn't want to mess with this show. You know what?
[39:36]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Blue Letter Bible, I forgive you.
[39:37]
Matt
Okay? The prince of the kingdom of persia withstood me 21 days. But lo, Michael, one of the chief princes came to help me, and I remained there with the kings of Persia. So, yeah, he remained there. But now I'm come to make you understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days. And thy people is isra. So I know you guys get funny about Israel, but, like, he gets funny. It all revolves around Israel.
[39:57]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
God bless Israel. I pray that they realize that Jesus Christ is the Messiah.
[40:02]
Top Lobster
My kids are not going to die for Israel.
[40:03]
Matt
But, yes, okay, that's right.
[40:06]
Top Lobster
That's fair.
[40:07]
Matt
For yet the vision is for many days. And when he had spoken such words unto me, I set my face towards the ground, and I became dumb. And behold, one like the similitude of the sons of men, touched my lips. Then I opened my mouth and spoke and said unto him that stood before me, oh, my Lord, by the vision, my sorrows are turned upon me, and I have retained no strength. For how can the servant of this, my Lord, talk with this, my Lord?
[40:27]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Wait, what?
[40:28]
Top Lobster
Hold on. Or how can the servant of this.
[40:30]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
How can the service of the.
[40:32]
Matt
Like, the plain English. He's just saying, how can I talk to you like you're in the spirit realm.
[40:36]
Top Lobster
Oh, I understand.
[40:38]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is. Is he having an actual dialogue, or. He's. He's praying.
[40:42]
Matt
He's communicating with this. With this angel, with this messenger.
[40:46]
Top Lobster
He's asking, how is this possible right now?
[40:48]
Matt
Yeah.
[40:48]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I feel like the angel should be like, you're missing the point, dog. It's happening. So the real point is. Wait, what, does he go on and say it?
[40:55]
Matt
Yeah, yeah, you're right on it, man. You're, like, locked in right now.
[40:58]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm just saying, if I was talking to an angel, how is this happening?
[41:03]
Top Lobster
I'd be like, what do you got.
[41:04]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
To say, dude, he's gas.
[41:05]
Matt
Say that now. But you don't know, bro. That was me showing up, and you're terrified. You. I mean, we don't know what we would do.
[41:12]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Whatever, Maybe you.
[41:13]
Matt
Okay.
[41:15]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, thank you, Jason English, for the $2 donation for absolutely nothing.
[41:18]
Top Lobster
That's a real Nancy. The Very, very good. Pulling up. But you should have played the sound.
[41:21]
Matt
It just happened. It was so quick. You guys are on Nancy. If she doesn't do stuff in, like, a half a second.
[41:26]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't think Nancy has the sound. Make sure it's not on loop, because she'll play it on loop.
[41:29]
Top Lobster
Hold on.
[41:30]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Let's give her a second. There it is.
[41:32]
Top Lobster
And it's on loop.
[41:32]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Thanks, Nance.
[41:33]
Top Lobster
Very good. Okay.
[41:35]
Matt
Okay.
[41:35]
Top Lobster
That was distracting. I'm sorry.
[41:37]
Matt
Thank you, Jason English I've been getting off track, too.
[41:39]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, you're. You're distracting.
[41:41]
Matt
I'M sorry, you're distracting.
[41:43]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Please focus.
[41:43]
Matt
And just so everybody knows in the chat, like, I love the Raven. I know you guys have those funny memes where it said, like, they're not memes.
[41:49]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
They're observations about how angry you look.
[41:51]
Matt
Matt says there's no dumb questions. And then it says, any question Raven asked. And then it shows, like, my face, like, he's asking dumb questions. I love that.
[41:59]
Top Lobster
I like the Raven's my guy.
[42:01]
Matt
And we spoke for an hour.
[42:03]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Who made the judge? Somebody made him as a judge. And it's very funny.
[42:05]
Top Lobster
Yeah.
[42:06]
Matt
You guys did that?
[42:07]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, no, that was a fan that did that. Somebody with keen observation skills who said, very judgmental.
[42:13]
Matt
How can this. For how can the servant of this my Lord? Talk with this my Lord? For as for me, straightway, there remained no strength in me. Neither is there breath left in me. Then there came again and touched me one, like the appearance of a man. And he strengthened me and said, oh, man. Greatly beloved. There it is again with Daniel.
[42:32]
Top Lobster
Not baby.
[42:33]
Matt
Yeah. They're like, bro. In the heavenly realm, Daniel, like, we watch you. We love you. You're like, you're loved in the eternal realm.
[42:38]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But homie had to actually be like, here's some strength.
[42:41]
Matt
You're. Yes.
[42:41]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You're falling apart right now.
[42:42]
Matt
Well, you're in the natural realm, dude. You guys have fragile bodies that die.
[42:45]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So he's talking to this one, and then another one appears to him, and he's like, here you go. And he gives him the pizzazz and, you know, juices him up.
[42:51]
Matt
Yeah.
[42:52]
Top Lobster
They're like, we're a fan, but chill out.
[42:53]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Hits him with a little hgh.
[42:54]
Matt
Well, I mean, think about these things. They've. They've existed for who knows how many thousands of years or whatever, and they're dealing with these frail, fragile creatures that have a spirit locked in a flesh body, like an eagle stuck in a cage. But they know we have a spirit that they can, like, engage with with, and they're just trying to communicate with us. Like, bro, let me help you out real quick so we can communicate. That's kind of a rad superpower.
[43:13]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That is pretty cool.
[43:15]
Matt
So then there came again and touched me one, like the appearance of a man. He strengthened me and said, oh, man. Greatly beloved, fear not. Peace be unto thee. Be strong. Yeah, be strong. And when he had spoken unto me, I was strengthened. What?
[43:26]
Top Lobster
Yeah.
[43:26]
Matt
Instead, let my Lord speak, for thou has strengthened me. If you got to get gassy, go.
[43:32]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm not gas.
[43:33]
Matt
Because I feel like you got to do it and then come back.
[43:34]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I just think it's funny where he's just like, be strong. Yeah.
[43:36]
Top Lobster
Okay, hold on, guys. I dig this T shirt. Get gassy.
[43:39]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Get gassy. I. I am constantly gassy. I would like to be ungassy.
[43:44]
Matt
This is what you meant when you said it's going to be like a hybrid Bible study. Like, now I get it now. I was like, no, no, it's just gonna be a Bible study. You're like, yeah, it's gonna be a hybrid Bible study.
[43:51]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I've been to your Bible study where you were teaching these young lads.
[43:53]
Top Lobster
And I was not about it even. They weren't about it.
[43:56]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
They were like, very serious. And I'm like, don't you guys ask silly questions.
[43:59]
Top Lobster
Don't you think. Don't you think this may have happened? They all looked at every single one.
[44:02]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Of them go, is he allowed to do that?
[44:04]
Top Lobster
Yeah, they didn't like to ask questions. They really didn't like you guys.
[44:07]
Matt
Yeah, well, they. Well, dude, top over analytical, bro. He was just like analyzing.
[44:12]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We got questions, though.
[44:13]
Top Lobster
No, I seen the whole thing.
[44:14]
Matt
He was just kind of like going.
[44:15]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like this, hey, make sure there's no witchcraft going on or anything like that. You know what I'm saying? Stop. Is hyper vigilant about witchcraft. What?
[44:22]
Top Lobster
There was no.
[44:24]
Matt
There wasn't.
[44:25]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
There wasn't until you came in with shorts.
[44:27]
Top Lobster
We're not doing this.
[44:28]
Matt
Verse 20, said, he knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee. This is why I was worried about you guys doing two shows back to back today. You were going to get, like, way out.
[44:36]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, dude, I've had two lattes.
[44:38]
Matt
Then said, he knows wherefore I come unto thee. And now will I return to fight with the Prince of Persia. And when I'm gone forth, lo, the prince of Greece shall come.
[44:47]
Top Lobster
Oh, so he's gonna kill.
[44:47]
Matt
This is a lot. This is a lot, bro. Like, so he says, hey, man, I got through. Remember? Like you said, Michael came through, but then he stood there with the princess of Persia for a while. But he says, okay, now I got through. I got the scroll. I'm gonna explain things to you, but.
[45:00]
Top Lobster
When I'm done, I gotta kill that guy.
[45:02]
Matt
I'm gonna go back with the Prince of Persia. But then when I'm gone, crazy stuff's going to happen in the spirit realm, like Persia and Greece. Neither one of them is on our team, but they're going to fight. The prince of Greece is going to come, which is everything we've already been reading, right with all these beasts that. It goes. Babylon, Medes and Persians, then Greece, then Rome. And so this is the whole thing. This is happening in the unseen realm. These wars are being waged in the unseen realm, and they're just kind of playing out in the earth. Earth. And this is what people have a.
[45:32]
Top Lobster
Hard time with because Daniel already know that part of the profit. I think we read that part.
[45:35]
Matt
Yeah.
[45:36]
Top Lobster
Okay. So he's telling him. He's like, yeah, that part that you saw, that's. That's now. That's like, I'm gonna leave and this is gonna happen now. That part.
[45:40]
Matt
Well, degrees thing doesn't happen right now. He's just. He's saying that, like, that's gonna happen in the future. Which, again, he keeps saying the same thing kind of over and over and in different ways. But this is a thing that people don't understand today because they're so caught up in, like, the Twitter cycle and, like, the stuff. I'm like, you guys. I love how you guys both like, what? No, we're not. I'm not. Quiet.
[46:01]
Top Lobster
Laura Loomers tweeting a lot of rec stuff.
[46:03]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
God bless her.
[46:04]
Matt
Yeah, okay. Okay. But anyway, what I was trying to say was that all these things are playing out in the unseen realm, and we have to be aware of that, dude. It's like, none. None of this stuff is happening. Like, it's not like, the. Dude, Putin went again, went into Ukraine, and something didn't happen in the unseen realm.
[46:24]
Top Lobster
Michael Heiser and his wife Lana, right?
[46:27]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is it Lana?
[46:30]
Matt
Don't. Why do you guys do this, man? I'm not doing this. You made up that name, Dude, I.
[46:35]
Top Lobster
Don'T remember her name. Nobody does.
[46:37]
Matt
So I'm not. I'm not doing this, dude. So all I'm saying is we all need to be aware that all this stuff is happening in the unseen realm, and then it plays out in the natural realm. Like, none of this stuff's just happening in the natural realm.
[46:48]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What do you think is happening in the unseen realm right now?
[46:51]
Matt
I don't know. In this room? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
[46:58]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right. Just thought maybe you knew.
[47:00]
Top Lobster
Anything good? I'd say good.
[47:01]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Probably some good stuff. A few good things.
[47:07]
Top Lobster
Maybe. They're probably. They're probably, like, sitting over there and, like, they're getting this whole thing wrong. Stupid.
[47:12]
Matt
No, no, there's nothing. We don't have any opinion on this. We're just talking about exactly what's happening.
[47:15]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I got a pain. Opinions.
[47:17]
Matt
Well, go ahead and say them.
[47:18]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Then not right now.
[47:19]
Matt
Okay. But I. Show what. But I will show you, you that which is noted in the scripture of truth. And there is none that holds with me in these things, but Michael, your prince. So, again, I know how you guys are about Israel, but just understand, if you're fighting against Israel and you don't like Israel, Michael's their prince. So, like, if you want to be, like, against Michael, be my guy.
[47:38]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's interesting, because when this guy gave his. Remember, he was doing his thing Trump, and he was just like, we prayed to the Archangel Michael. Remember that?
[47:45]
Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah.
[47:46]
Matt
Like one of the first episodes I was ever on, we were talking about that.
[47:49]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah. That's a fascinating thing to, you know.
[47:52]
Top Lobster
See, I feel like my interpretation of this is grossly misinterpreted about Israel.
[47:58]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, your fiery hatred for Israel.
[48:00]
Top Lobster
It's not that. I just don't. I don't even know.
[48:02]
Matt
You just are, like, say rude things like, in the Twitter, though, because you, like, get it going and. Yeah, it gets, like, a lot of likes and stuff.
[48:08]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, I mean, sometimes it's fun.
[48:10]
Top Lobster
Sometimes you got to tell the truth. People be lying.
[48:14]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
They do be lying.
[48:15]
Top Lobster
Yeah.
[48:15]
Matt
They might be bots, though, like, trying to control their conversation.
[48:18]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Laura might be a boss.
[48:19]
Matt
Stop. She's a dear friend of mine, and.
[48:21]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
She'S a wonderful person.
[48:22]
Matt
This coffee shop. She's not a bot.
[48:24]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I bet you she's very funny. You think?
[48:27]
Top Lobster
What I'm saying is, I don't. I don't really know what Israel is, so.
[48:29]
Matt
What do you mean? We study it biblically, bro. Like, I don't. You guys are always like, oh, Israel in the last five days on Twitter. No. Oh, Israel in the last five years. No. What's Israel in the last. You don't even look at my tweeters.
[48:40]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I make jokes about farts. I make jokes about cats.
[48:45]
Matt
I'm just saying we need a biblical view of Israel.
[48:47]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You keep throwing me into this. Into this bucket with this.
[48:49]
Matt
What do you mean?
[48:50]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So anti Israel.
[48:51]
Top Lobster
That's not true.
[48:51]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And then you don't even look at my Twitter feed. My Twitter feed is a silly good time.
[48:55]
Matt
It probably is. I'm going to keep reading, though, because you guys aren't ready for 11, verse one. It's not. There's really not a break. There's really not a break here. He's just talking like there's a chapter break, but there's not really a story break. It's the same angel speaking. It's the same messenger speaking.
[49:10]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
This is presumably Gabriel.
[49:13]
Matt
Could be. Could I don't know. I kind of think it is, but maybe it's not because he would have named himself.
[49:18]
Top Lobster
Let me ask you, is Gabriel the. The messenger angel for Israel? Like, how Michael is the.
[49:24]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is the.
[49:25]
Matt
It sure seems that way. He shows up to deliver messages to Daniel. He shows up to Mary. He shows up to Zachariah, the. The father of John the Baptist. Like, yeah, it seems like he's showing up to announce things. He's like the herald of the kingdom of God. And then Michael is just like the soldier, like, the fiery warrior of the kingdom of God. So. So that's what it looks like.
[49:46]
Top Lobster
That's a good way to prove who, like, the. The Jewish people are. Like, if somebody could, like, be like, yo, Gabriel came to me and be like, all right, that guy's Jewish. And then we can figure that out.
[49:55]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, if we should.
[49:56]
Top Lobster
Oh, that's interesting because, like, if they're not going to come to other people, that's like their. Their tribe. I think this is the big question, but whatever, let's keep reading.
[50:02]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's fine.
[50:02]
Matt
That's an intriguing statement by you. And I don't want to unpack it, but it's intriguing statement. Okay. 11.
[50:08]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
1.
[50:08]
Matt
Also, I. In the first year of Darius, the.
[50:10]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Me.
[50:11]
Matt
Even I, this angel who came to help Daniel right here and is helping out Israel and specifically Daniel. Even I stood to confirm and strengthen him.
[50:20]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Darius.
[50:21]
Matt
Yeah. So, like, dude, God is just operating in the unseen realm, like setting up and tearing down kingdoms, bro.
[50:26]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's why Darius crushed.
[50:28]
Matt
And I think it might have been heavy for Daniel because at this time, they're thinking, everything revolves around Israel. And God's saying like, yeah, yeah, everything revolves around Israel. But I'm the God of all the nations and I control all of his history.
[50:39]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So he says, Stacks Farmstead says this is the best kind of Bible study.
[50:43]
Top Lobster
The gassy kind.
[50:44]
Matt
Did he say that?
[50:45]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah. Stacks Farmstead's awesome. I love that.
[50:47]
Matt
Just gone, like, way off track.
[50:48]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
How's your little girl, Stacks? I hope she's crushing or.
[50:50]
Matt
No.
[50:50]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Stack's little girl had surgery. I think it was last year.
[50:53]
Top Lobster
Oh, that's right.
[50:54]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But I heard she recovered. Well. Hope she's doing good, dude.
[50:57]
Top Lobster
Yeah. I don't know. I mean, if we're interrupting Matt too much, let us know. How. He's got two Bibles now. He's got.
[51:02]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He's got a boat on the second Bible.
[51:03]
Matt
That's what he said you're interrupting.
[51:05]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Are any of them. Do any of them have blue letters?
[51:06]
Top Lobster
Let me ask you something. You got one Bible, A straight Bible. You got two Bibles?
[51:09]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What's that, binary Bibles?
[51:12]
Matt
No, no, it just means one is in plain English. Because I'm going to read straight through chapter 11.
[51:16]
Top Lobster
Another question that I have. Maybe you can answer this for me. I know you're not supposed to put other stuff on top of the Bible.
[51:23]
Matt
And I was offended by that. Where did you hear that? That you're not supposed to put stuff on top of.
[51:26]
Top Lobster
Somebody always told me that if I have a Bible in my house, it's always, I never put anything on top.
[51:31]
Matt
I don't either, but people mock me for that.
[51:32]
Top Lobster
If you put another Bible on top.
[51:33]
Matt
Of the Bible, that's.
[51:34]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay. Well, okay, yeah.
[51:36]
Top Lobster
Okay, cool.
[51:37]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All those are.
[51:37]
Matt
Yeah, that's hilarious. I've never heard anybody say that.
[51:41]
Top Lobster
No, it's. It is kind of.
[51:42]
Matt
What if it's in your backpack and then you lean over and something falls on top? I'm like, no, no, it's not like that. I'm not going to put my phone on top of my Bible.
[51:49]
Top Lobster
That. I did that the other day. I went into the bathroom, I came.
[51:52]
Matt
Out and I was like, yeah, that's hilarious.
[51:55]
Top Lobster
Didn't like that.
[51:55]
Matt
Hilarious.
[51:56]
Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah.
[51:56]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, good.
[51:57]
Matt
But I'm not starting a new denomination based on that. Like, it's fine if people set stuff on their Bible. I'm just saying, like, yeah, that's funny that you said that. And I feel the same way.
[52:04]
Top Lobster
I'm a little uncomfortable right now because he's got two on one. But that's.
[52:08]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You're definitely double stacking Bibles.
[52:09]
Matt
Can Raven read or no? You shouldn't have him read.
[52:11]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay.
[52:12]
Top Lobster
It's like, it's like that kid in class, you know?
[52:15]
Matt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[52:15]
Top Lobster
And then, and then Cat.
[52:22]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm a great reader. I'm a great.
[52:24]
Matt
Okay, I'm just going. I'm just gonna read straight through. If you guys wanted to interrupt, that's fine.
[52:28]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like, he's like, I'm not gonna stop.
[52:29]
Top Lobster
Before we. Before we do that, there was a question for you.
[52:32]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Go ahead. Oh, let's do that. Because he's about to go straight through it.
[52:35]
Top Lobster
Yeah.
[52:35]
Matt
So if we have any long story that it's like, okay, it tells this long story of history of stuff that actually did happen. But, like, it's a lot to unpack and I'm not a specialist on unpacking all this, dude. So.
[52:46]
Top Lobster
Okay, so there's two, like, two comments here for you. One, I have a handful of streams I enjoy, but Owen. And this, this one Here are my top.
[52:55]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Wow, that's high praise.
[52:56]
Top Lobster
That's Annie.
[52:57]
Matt
Wait, but me and Owen Benjamin are, like, homies, though, right? Even though.
[53:00]
Top Lobster
Oh, you guys are gonna love. You're gonna meet him.
[53:02]
Matt
He's a food forest guy.
[53:03]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[53:04]
Top Lobster
Full farm, dude.
[53:05]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He also doesn't scrub beneath his fingernails before he comes on a podcast, and I think it's. He does it.
[53:09]
Matt
You only have that if you have good soil.
[53:11]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's not.
[53:12]
Matt
People who are. Sandy Florida soil. They don't get, like, dirty fans that.
[53:16]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Are like, I work on a produce farm and. And I do what's called scrubbing my fingers.
[53:22]
Matt
And you don't see it doesn't have organic matter.
[53:25]
Top Lobster
Greg said, is it possible? If possible, can you ask Matt what are his thoughts on the cross? Like wearing it as jewelry or having one in your house on the wall? Is this worshiping an idol? Also, what if there's a little tiny eraser Jesus this.
[53:39]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, yeah.
[53:40]
Top Lobster
What are your thoughts on.
[53:41]
Matt
Nobody asked that. You just put. Turn that in, Dude, I'm not doing that.
[53:44]
Top Lobster
Top. Top comment.
[53:46]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, I have a couple little erases.
[53:49]
Matt
Part about the Jesus eraser is not.
[53:50]
Top Lobster
I mean, it's kind of the same thing, though.
[53:52]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's not really the same question.
[53:53]
Matt
No, those are demeaning, dude. Those are incredibly. If I find another one of those things in the shop, I'm going to.
[53:59]
Top Lobster
He lost it on me. It was.
[54:00]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You got upset. You're always upset. So that's not the first time I.
[54:04]
Matt
Ever saw one of those. Somebody was like, like, here, do you need a little Jesus in your life? And it was like this little thing, and I looked at and I was like, yeah, that's not what that means. If you need Jesus, what did you do?
[54:13]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Did you rebuke them?
[54:14]
Matt
No, I just said, that's not what that means. And then you don't see it as.
[54:17]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like, a nice gesture.
[54:18]
Matt
Can I just say the thing? You're always like, I want to know.
[54:21]
Top Lobster
Shut up, David.
[54:22]
Matt
So then she's like, oh, well, it's a testimony. And I said, well, you should get born again. And then you'd have a testimony. Like, you shouldn't just be handing out these little idols.
[54:29]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
How is that a testimony?
[54:30]
Matt
I don't know. It's like, that's what people think, though. They think that they, like, wear a shirt that says Jesus on it, that it's a testimony, or they think they have this little statue that's a testimony. Like, I remember being in Bible studies where the lady was, like, super nasty to the Waitress. This is a thing that really, like, burns me up.
[54:47]
Top Lobster
Doing Bible study in a restaurant.
[54:49]
Matt
Grinding gears. No, hold on. Everywhere Jess and I go, which isn't very far, but we go to some places and we talk to, like, waiters and waitresses stuff. And I do have a habit of asking about, like, the church people when they eat at a restaurant, because I'm.
[55:02]
Top Lobster
Just intrigued by the church people. They suck, right?
[55:04]
Matt
Nasty.
[55:04]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's what he does.
[55:05]
Matt
They never tip, and they're just mean. Mean and nasty to people.
[55:07]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's kind of an old person thing. I don't know if that's a church.
[55:09]
Matt
No, no. These people, like, everywhere we go, it's the same story. But anyway, we were in a Bible study where the lady was like. She told this story how she was super nasty to the waitress, but then at the end, left her across for the tip. Damn. And I was like, that's crazy, dude. Like, you're just making people hate.
[55:25]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, they're gonna go, I don't want to be like that.
[55:27]
Matt
They don't want anything to do with the church, bro. That acts like that.
[55:30]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
My wife says the same thing, though. She. She used to be a Jehovah's Witness. And she goes like. They'll go, what?
[55:34]
Matt
When were you gonna divulge that info, bro? You knew that.
[55:38]
Top Lobster
Me, I. I thought he said it.
[55:40]
Matt
He says he never tells me anything I do.
[55:43]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You just don't pay attention. So. But she'll say, like, when they all go out, because they'll go to church, and then they'll all go out to eat. And, like, none of them. None of them tip. And they're very rude to. The JWs are rude, J Dubs? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're very. Well, I mean, you know, in a. I used to.
[55:56]
Matt
Restaurant setting back in the day in Starbucks, actually, in Cali.
[55:59]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[55:59]
Matt
Not the nicest people. That's the weird thing, bro, with these cults, man. It's like. It's some of them.
[56:04]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[56:04]
Matt
People.
[56:04]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, there was cults. I agree with that.
[56:06]
Top Lobster
But.
[56:07]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But I don't understand, because what is testimony? I thought testimony was a personal story.
[56:13]
Matt
Amen.
[56:13]
Top Lobster
But the cross.
[56:14]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But this little doohickey is a testimony that makes sense.
[56:16]
Matt
That's what people are saying is like, yeah, this is my witness. Like, this is my way to, like, get across to people, to witness to people. Like, the people that hand out tracks. They're saying, this is my witness. This is my testimony. That's what I'm saying. Like, get born again then, oh, no, I've been in Church for 20 years. I got baptized 20 years ago. No, no, but get born again, and then you'll have a test testimony, and then you'll actually have something to say. You'll actually be able to tell people what the blood of Christ has done in your life and who you are now because of it.
[56:40]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So you're saying get baptized.
[56:42]
Top Lobster
I get. I get where you're at with it. I just think it's neat. I like. I really do like it.
[56:47]
Matt
Are you being serious? You're, like, down for the little Jesus statue.
[56:51]
Top Lobster
That's like, I like it.
[56:52]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, what's the. What's the harm? Tell us what the harm is. We don't know.
[56:54]
Top Lobster
The harm is just explained.
[56:55]
Matt
It's meaningful. Well, the harm is it's meaningless, potentially. It could be looked at as an idol. That's. That's another thing. But.
[57:02]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But if you don't look at it like that, it's just this little dude that's like, up.
[57:05]
Top Lobster
Look at that.
[57:05]
Matt
It's just a mockery, bro. When I look at thing. The reality of human history and the reality of everything in the universe. The king of the universe, and we've reduced him to. Did you say it was an eraser?
[57:15]
Top Lobster
It was an eraser.
[57:15]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is it an eraser?
[57:16]
Matt
Yeah, bro.
[57:17]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I've never tried to erase.
[57:18]
Matt
Like, I want to. I want to throw that at somebody.
[57:20]
Top Lobster
When I look at it, though, you're.
[57:21]
Matt
Gonna take his head and, like, rob. Like, I'm like, I'll be real with you.
[57:24]
Top Lobster
I'd never do that to the Jesus eraser. But when I look at it, I go, please, I love that guy. That's what I think right away, because.
[57:30]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
There'S so many little doohickeys in the house, right? Like, little doohickeys here and there. Yeah, look, he's making faces.
[57:36]
Matt
I just think it's humiliating to the body of Christ. Like, that's all we got. Like, that's all we got these little rubber things. Like what?
[57:44]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay, so what about the cross?
[57:45]
Top Lobster
If that's your only thing. If that's your only thing, I get it. I get exactly where you're coming from. And, like, approaching someone with that, only I get. Get it for me, when I look at it, I just go, what were.
[57:55]
Matt
Those made for then if it wasn't made for that?
[57:57]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't know.
[57:57]
Matt
That's what it was made for. It was made for people that don't have a testimony that go sit in a thing on Sunday and watch a show, and they go around and instead of actually living A spirit filled life and actually having an impact on the society around them because they're filled with the spirit of God. They're reduced to just giving this little thing and giving bad tips to people.
[58:13]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I feel like you're.
[58:13]
Matt
And I'm over it. Like, I'm over that whole scene, bro. Like, I'm over the church not acting like the church. That. That's all I'm saying.
[58:18]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Saying, so what about the cross and wearing one and stuff like that?
[58:23]
Matt
I'm down for whatever for even like, yeah, the cross. I don't, I don't wear crosses or have crosses in my house or anything like that. But.
[58:30]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But if you do, you can't stand that.
[58:32]
Matt
No, I just think people need to have like, if you have to in public, like have a cross for people to know you're a Christian. I'm just not a big fan of that. I'm not, I'm not saying if you wear a cross then you're a fake Christian. I'm not saying that. I'm saying if you need that for people to know that you're a Christian, you should be checking yourself. For me, personally, I don't really wear any things that like, say I'm a Christian. Clearly we don't decorate the coffee shop in any way that you would walk in and think it was like a Christian coffee shop.
[58:59]
Top Lobster
I knew right away you would.
[59:00]
Matt
No, you didn't. You just walked in and you were like, yo, you may have. Because you're like, yo, this is a rad shop. Like, if these guys claim only a.
[59:07]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Christian could make a shop this rad.
[59:09]
Matt
Yeah, that's all jokes now. So it's like. No, the point is, is like if your claim is that the living God lives inside of you, you should. Raddest coffee shop in town. Like, what are we talking about? You shouldn't have some dusty old coffee shop that's janky. And the church crowd comes in and supports you even though it's janky because you're a Christian. It's not what it should be. Dude. It should be like the raddest coffee shop in town. Because your claim is that the spirit of God lives inside you. So of course we do everything rad.
[59:36]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Which once again brings about if, if you identify as a rad individual, why are you not as a rad individual? I'll give from the standard question my.
[59:43]
Top Lobster
Opinion on the cross. I don't like wearing it or even having it in my house because I think it's like it show. It shows, I guess, the sacrifice. But it kind of like, I'm like. I think about it. I'm like, this is probably the most horrific part. Like, I don't. I don't like to relive the.
[59:58]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
If we were going to do something.
[59:59]
Top Lobster
Cool, it could open cave or like a small. With nothing inside, a small eraser of Jesus Christ.
[60:04]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That'd be cool. But I do. I do think it's interesting how we focus mostly on the cross.
[60:09]
Matt
I guess there's nothing wrong with the little statue. It's just. It just reminds me of the state of the modern American church. Every time I see it, I get it.
[60:16]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But doesn't it. Doesn't it seem strange that we focus so much on the cross when it's like a symbol of. Of what he did for us? But then it's like, you know, it's. It's a symbol of a place where Christ spent some time.
[60:26]
Top Lobster
What about the fish?
[60:27]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like, well, what about the open and empty cave where his body wasn't found because he was resurrected? Like, that, to me, is. That's super dope.
[60:35]
Top Lobster
We got to read the Bible.
[60:36]
Matt
I'm happy to be reminded of the cross. I love to be reminded of the cross. I'd love to regularly think like, like, like, if we talk about conspiracy theories, there will never be a crazier conspiracy theory than. The creator of the universe came down to the earth, man, let people spit in his face and rip his beard out and died a bloody, torturous death and hung on a cross to buy me back from the dead. Because that's what he valued my soul at. That's what he valued the relationship with me at, was he was willing to pay the most valuable substance in the universe by the death of the cross to buy me back from the dead. I always want to be reminded of that. I don't personally have a cross, like, on the wall or on a shirt or on a necklace to remind me. It's just a thing that I kind of try to remember. Like, even me and Top were talking this morning about something where he felt like maybe he got done dirty in some certain situation. And I just said, yeah, I don't know, man. When I'm in those scenarios, I like to just, like, take it up to Jesus and sort of communicate with God about it. And then I just imagined him saying, like, oh, you poor little baby. That's so sad.
[61:36]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Funny, yeah.
[61:37]
Matt
You got treated so bad down there. Hey, did you see what they did to me when I was down?
[61:41]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
They ripped my beard.
[61:42]
Matt
And then I'm just kind of like, Embarrassed whenever I take that to God like that. Because I'm like, yeah, dude, he did the whole thing at the cross. Like, whatever happens to me in this life is not that bad.
[61:51]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right?
[61:52]
Matt
And Top was like, yeah, yeah, I agree with that.
[61:55]
Top Lobster
But these people got to pay.
[61:58]
Matt
He is so like that. He's so like that.
[62:01]
Top Lobster
All right, Larry, let's continue reading, please.
[62:03]
Matt
I'm going to just read straight through. You guys stop me whenever. But it has to go straight through. Otherwise we're just going to get hungry. Hung up, dude. Now then, I will reveal the truth to you. Three months, three more Persian kings will reign to be succeeded by a fourth, far richer than the others. He will use his wealth to stir up everyone to fight against the kingdom of Greece. I think that was Xerxes. I'm not going to keep interrupting, though. Then a mighty king will rise to power who will rule with great authority. I think that's the Greece empire.
[62:28]
Top Lobster
Xerxes is with, like, Esther. Is that Xerxes with King Leonidas, dude.
[62:32]
Matt
Yeah, he's in that time period. Yeah.
[62:33]
Top Lobster
Gotcha.
[62:34]
Matt
300. It's a solid.
[62:35]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I love that movie.
[62:36]
Matt
Okay, so then. So then a mighty king will rise to power. Who role. It looks like that's Alexander the Great with. With great authority. And accomplish everything he sets out to do. But at the height of his power, his kingdom will be broken apart and divided into four parts. We already went over that a couple chapters back, right. That Alexander the Great's generals. Yeah. Broke into four different things. Like, Daniel had another vision about that, but this. He's having the same thing just in another vision. His kingdom will be broken apart and divided into four parts. It will not be ruled by the king's descendants. Nor will the kingdom hold the authority it once had. For his empire will be uprooted and given to others. We're lord. Losing him. We're losing him. You see him?
[63:12]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I did a yawn.
[63:14]
Matt
I know, but you're kind of.
[63:16]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I'm here. I just had a lot of NyQuil last night. I was a little under the weather and now I can't.
[63:20]
Matt
Can we get you anything on the.
[63:21]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, dude, I had two lattes.
[63:23]
Matt
Okay. The king of the south will increase in power. But one of his own officials will become more powerful than he and will rule his kingdom with great strength. Some years later, an alliance will be formed between the king of the north and the king of the South. The daughter of the king of the south will be given in marriage to the king of the north to secure the Alliance. But she will lose her influence over him. And so will her father. So will her father. Father. She will be abandoned along with her supporters. But when one of her relatives becomes king of the south, he will raise an army and enter the fortress of the king of the north and defeat him. When he returns to Egypt, he'll carry back their idols with him, along with the little Jesus statues.
[63:55]
Top Lobster
Did we.
[63:56]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Did we read something like this already?
[63:58]
Matt
Yeah, we read it in Bible study at my house.
[64:01]
Top Lobster
A chest full of erasers.
[64:03]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
A chest full of eraser Jesus idols.
[64:05]
Matt
When he returns to Egypt, he'll carry back their idols with them, along with priceless articles of gold and silver for some years after. Afterward, he will leave the king of the north alone.
[64:13]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's interesting. This is where my son was just like, so which one is the good? Which one's good? The king of the south or the king of the north?
[64:19]
Matt
Hold on, I got notes back from Daniel 8. So when Alexander the Great split up, when he died, the four generals that took over Greece was. Cassander took over, like, Macedonia and Greece. Lysimachus took over, like, Asia Minor. Seleucius took over, like, from Syria to India, which ended up being like, the Syrian Empire. Empire. And then Ptolemy took over, like, Egypt to the south. So when it's talking about the north and the south, the north is Seleucius, in the south is Ptolemy. Just. Just so anybody, you're like, we're reading all this and people are like, what's going on? This. These are historical figures. This really has happened now, but it hadn't happened yet at this time. It's just Daniel is, like, spelling out history before it happens. That's why people think that Daniel's a forgery, because it's so accurate. It said it was everything so, like, in advance to such precision that they're like, there's no way this guy knew this.
[65:11]
Top Lobster
Do we have any. Do you have any evidence as to the time period that it was written? Is there anything to, like, solidify that?
[65:18]
Matt
If I remember right, they pin it at like 700 BC. But no, I don't have it in front of me. And we could probably Google it or whatever. But I think the Blue Letter Bible has it. I mean, it's definitely in the time period where, like, it's. It's right after Jeremiah. I mean, it goes like Isaiah, Jeremiah. Who else would have been in that? Ezekiel would have been in that time period. But, yeah, they've been taking off. I mean, Esther happened somewhere in this time period too. So, yeah, I mean, we could look it up. I just don't know. Off the top of my head. He's doing it. We're losing.
[65:54]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm just having a yawn, man.
[65:55]
Matt
Can you get a coffee?
[65:56]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I had a coffee. No, I don't need an energy drink.
[66:00]
Top Lobster
You can just ask. You can just shout out and they'll bring.
[66:03]
Matt
She's right there.
[66:03]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We need a. A. Like a. Like a.
[66:06]
Matt
We're not going to degrade the people that work here like that.
[66:08]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Dude, you're not just going to watch.
[66:09]
Matt
String and Hey, get in here. Bring me a drink.
[66:12]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What's so degrading about that sound? That's a nice.
[66:15]
Top Lobster
They're very nice people out there.
[66:16]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, we don't shout at them either.
[66:17]
Top Lobster
If it's Mason, maybe, but not.
[66:19]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We can. Yeah, all right, fine. We'll get a bell.
[66:21]
Matt
Big Bird will do it. Okay. Verse 9 Later, the king of the north will invade the realm of the King of the south, but will soon return to his own land. However, the sons of the King of the north will assemble a mighty army that will advance like a flood and carry the battle as far as the enemy's forehead fortress. Then, in a rage, the King of the south will rally against the vast forces assembled by the King of the north and will defeat them. After the enemy army is swept away, the King of the south will be filled with pride and will execute many thousands of his enemies. But his success will be short lived. A few years later, the King of the north will return with a fully equipped army far greater than before. At that time, there will be a general uprising against the King of the South. Violent men among your own people will join them in fulfillment of the vision, but they will not succeed. Then the King of the north will come and lay siege to to a fortified city and capture it. The best troops of the south will not be able to stand in the face of the onslaught. The King of the north will march onward unopposed. None will be able to stop him. He will pause in the glorious land of Israel, intent on destroying it. He will make plans to come with the might of his entire kingdom and will form an alliance with the King of the South. He will give him a daughter in marriage in order to overthrow the kingdom from within. But his plan will fail. After this, he will turn his attention to the coastland and conquer many cities. But a commander from another land will put an end to his insolence and cause him to retreat and shoot shame. He'll take refuge in his own fortresses, but will stumble and fall and Be seen no more. His successor will send out a tax collector to maintain the royal splendor. But after a very brief reign, he will die, though not from anger or in battle. The next to come to power will be a despicable man who is not in line for royal succession. He will slip in when least expected and take over the kingdom by flattery and intrigue.
[67:50]
Top Lobster
This is very specific.
[67:51]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Dude, I was going to say that. Super specific.
[67:52]
Matt
Well, they say this has to do with Antiochus Epiphanies and all this stuff. Stuff like, does happen. The abomination of desolation. Like, it takes place. He slaughters the pig on the altar.
[68:01]
Top Lobster
This is the guy that walks into the Holy of holies.
[68:03]
Matt
I forget. Yeah. Antiochus Epiphanies. Yeah.
[68:06]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's not there, though. Desolation. What is it called? The abomination of desolation.
[68:09]
Matt
But. But it's weird because as we read this and as this unfolds, it's like, wait, is he talking about this thing that already happened? Or he's talking about this future event with the Antichrist, and it looks like it's one of those things in the Bible. Yes.
[68:21]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Sort of cyclical nature of things.
[68:23]
Matt
And so we just learned. Like, I don't necessarily. Like I said, I'm not a master of charts and graphs and calend. And spelling out exactly how this goes down.
[68:29]
Top Lobster
I'm not straight Bible.
[68:30]
Matt
Yeah. So. But I like to pull from this. Like, I want to. I want to be like, okay, watch out for the dudes who, like, take over and they're just looking for flatteries, like, their butt kissers. Like, there's something about that. Like, it's our entire political system today. The dude said Nero. Yeah. It looks like there's ties.
[68:47]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's man brew, dude.
[68:48]
Matt
Is it? Man, that's my guys. Thanks for the.
[68:53]
Top Lobster
Thanks for the headphones.
[68:54]
Matt
Anyway, yeah, like, that's a great point. Is that, like, there's all these things in history that people are able to point to and say, this is that.
[68:59]
Top Lobster
Well, Nancy pulled something up.
[69:01]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Nancy, what is it?
[69:02]
Top Lobster
I can't read it.
[69:03]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What does it say? The conflict between the King of the north, which is the What? Salina.
[69:10]
Matt
Oh, 305 before Christ to 167 before Christ. Yeah, that's like, when that was going down. But when Daniel prophesies, it is even before that.
[69:18]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Nancy.
[69:21]
Matt
Nancy's the best.
[69:22]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
She is the best. We like to.
[69:24]
Matt
Nancy.
[69:25]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right.
[69:25]
Matt
Okay.
[69:26]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Stop distracting us, Nancy.
[69:29]
Matt
The next to come to power will be a despicable man. Who is not in line for royal succession. He'll slip in when least expected and take over the kingdom by flattery and intrigue. Before him, great armies will be struck away, including a covenant prince with deceitful promises. He'll make various alliances. He'll become strong despite having only a handful of false followers. Without warning, he will enter the richest areas of the land, then will. Then he will distribute among his followers the plunder and wealth of the rich, something his predecessors had never done. He will plot the overthrow of strongholds, but this will last for only a short while. Then he will stir up his courage and raise a great army against the King of the South. The King of the south will go to battle with a mighty army, but to no avail, for there will be plots against him. His own household will cause his downfall. His army will be swept away and many will be killed.
[70:12]
Top Lobster
Killed.
[70:13]
Matt
Seeking nothing but each other's harm, these kings will plot against each other at the conference table, attempting to deceive each other. Like that just seems like something that could be in, like, today's news, bro. Like, if Trump and G are, like, sitting down at a table and they're, like, being cordial and, like, working through stuff, but really they just want each other's harm. Yeah.
[70:30]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
For no other reason except for just.
[70:32]
Matt
Yeah. These things don't change. Like, like, whatever. Like, like the way man acts doesn't change, but it will make no difference. For the end will come at the appointed time. So we just read that whole thing and God's just like. Just everybody's clear, like, I' when all this is going to happen.
[70:45]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[70:46]
Matt
The king of the north will then return home with great riches on the way. He'll set himself against the people of the Holy Covenant, doing much damage before continuing his journey. Then at the appointed time, God's in control. He will once again invade the south. But this time the result will be different. For warships from western coastlands will scare him off and he'll be withdrawn and he will withdraw and return home. They say Rome actually did that. They say that's what happened in that scenario with Antiochus Epiphanies is that Rome showed up and they were like, yeah, no, you're not coming in. But he will vent his anger against the people of the Holy Covenant and reward those who forsake the covenant. So, like, he went into Israel and like anybody who would plot against Israel, he'd reward them. But he was, like, trying to kill off, like, the real. The real Israel is what history says. That's when he Showed up. And it looks like that's when the abomination of desolation took place. His army will take over the temple for fortress, pollute the sanctuary, put a stop to the daily sacrifices, and set up the sacrilegious object that causes desecration.
[71:44]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
The sacrilegious object that causes desecration. What is that?
[71:48]
Matt
That's what is referred to as the abomination of desolation. And I'm pretty sure I should have looked this up before we did this, but I'm pretty sure Jesus refers to that as a future event. So that's what I'm saying is, like, these things happen in history and they have a later fulfillment as well.
[72:04]
Top Lobster
It means a very sinful, sinful man made God, so.
[72:07]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, that's interesting.
[72:08]
Matt
They say he slaughtered a pig in the. In the temple.
[72:11]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
A very sinful man made God, though. That's. That's a fascinating concept, like an AI, but. Oh, you said it, dude. I was gonna say. Yeah, you were. You said it, though, dude.
[72:19]
Matt
You're slow right now, though. I'm a little bit, yeah. Normally you would be first.
[72:22]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, I had a lot of nyquil last night.
[72:24]
Top Lobster
He said that. He said that five times.
[72:26]
Matt
I know, but that's why I said, if you don't want to do two shows today.
[72:28]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, dude, we gotta get to. We gotta do. This is important. Okay?
[72:32]
Top Lobster
We're behind on content now. I don't know if you've noticed this boring. Minus one on.
[72:37]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, because this guy lost his license.
[72:39]
Top Lobster
No, it's a whole thing. Oh, there you go. Yeah, that's a whole thing too. Guys, I lost my license, but we're good. I got it back. Yeah, we're fine. That's a real story comp.
[72:48]
Matt
It's a very intriguing time that he supposedly lost it.
[72:51]
Top Lobster
Why I'd get. You were telling me. Don't you think it's weird? Like, you're telling me a conspiracy theory about myself and saying, don't I think it's weird? I'm like, no, that actually happened to me. It was.
[72:58]
Matt
That's what you do. Like, oh, this conspiracy theory. This happened. Like, no, some things are just a coincidence, man.
[73:05]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Wait, so are you. Are you advocating for conspiracy?
[73:07]
Top Lobster
So why would you think I. Why would I have lost my license for. No, literally no reason. Yo, the reason I went there, they were like, oh, something happened.
[73:14]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It was pretty messed up.
[73:15]
Top Lobster
Listen to this. I went to the dmv and I was like. So first I went to the New York dmv, called them, finally got in touch they were like, nah, play your. Your license good on us.
[73:23]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Why are you looking like, don't make that face.
[73:25]
Top Lobster
Then I went to the. Because it was a lady just wearing her nails on the desk.
[73:29]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, she had long nails.
[73:31]
Top Lobster
Yeah. So then I go to the Florida God bless her. And. And. And they go, I. I say, well, this is what's going on. And they go, yeah, yeah, no, we have the paperwork that we needed for you and we can see it in the system. And I was like, well, what the hell is the problem? Why would you pull me over and take my license? And they go, oh, well, it wasn't applied. So basically, like, you take your mouse clicker and you. And you drag it over and then it's applied. Replied. And I was like, how the hell am I supposed to do that? And why didn't you do that six or seven months ago? And they're like, yeah, I don't know, but you're good here.
[73:58]
Matt
Okay, but all I'm saying is, like, crazy the way you had, like, a normal explanation, even though it looked a little conspiratory.
[74:04]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't think it looks conspiratorial.
[74:05]
Matt
Yes, it does. He. As soon as he got the thing to make all these.
[74:08]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[74:09]
Matt
He automatically was just unavailable. It's the same way where he's like, yeah, Laura Loomer went on the show and started talking. Nice.
[74:16]
Top Lobster
These are.
[74:16]
Matt
I'm like, okay, but that doesn't mean she's a bad person. Yeah. You don't understand. This happen with this guy.
[74:21]
Top Lobster
We're going to be making so much stuff. It's going to be. Dude, I'm telling you, it is weird. Yeah, it's going to.
[74:26]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That can't. That camera's your.
[74:28]
Top Lobster
Actually, Matt.
[74:28]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Jeez.
[74:29]
Top Lobster
Whatever. All right, guys, this is.
[74:31]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But it is. I do find it interesting because he's like, oh, got this laser machine. Sorry.
[74:34]
Matt
Exactly. But everything's not a conspiracy.
[74:38]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's kind of a conspiracy. I. I'll give you that.
[74:40]
Matt
I think maybe he did have his license.
[74:42]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I think he had his license the entire time.
[74:43]
Top Lobster
Yeah, I can prove it. I can prove it.
[74:45]
Matt
No, no, we're going on verse 32. He will flatter and win over those who have violated the covenant. But the people who know their God.
[74:50]
Top Lobster
Will be strong and will resist my new license picture. So I actually had to go.
[74:54]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's funny because there's a shadow behind your head that makes it look like you've got a curly mullet.
[74:57]
Top Lobster
Yeah, it's bad. She was like. I sat down in the chair and she's like, take a picture. And I took it. And she's like, is this good? And I said, I don't care. Yeah, get me out of here.
[75:06]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Do you smile when somebody says, like, we're to take a picture of you for your license? Do you smile?
[75:10]
Matt
No, it's just. He's very like.
[75:11]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He's very like.
[75:12]
Top Lobster
He's after. You've taken it away from me in the most embarrassing way.
[75:15]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Manner. Sure, but that lady that took your picture didn't do it. She's just a lady.
[75:18]
Top Lobster
She did.
[75:19]
Matt
He doesn't care, though. He doesn't care. Whoever.
[75:21]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Whoever's in the way. Whoever's in the way gets it. Yeah, I get it.
[75:24]
Top Lobster
That was very nice. I just said, yes, it's fine. Let's keep it moving.
[75:27]
Matt
His army will take over the temple fortress, pollute the sanctuary, put a stop to the daily sacrifices, and set up the sacrilegious object that causes desecration. He'll flatter and win over those who have violated the covenant. But the people who know their God. I'm just saying it doesn't say the people who have, like, perfect doctrine.
[75:44]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[75:44]
Matt
Or the people who have great theology.
[75:46]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[75:47]
Matt
Or the people who never missed the Sunday show.
[75:49]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It says the people who know the most about conspiracies.
[75:52]
Matt
No, people who know their God. Like, that's it. Like, that's it.
[75:56]
Top Lobster
I guess this is a weak point. Someone in. In your library had asked me. They're like, who is God?
[76:02]
Matt
You are so offended by that.
[76:04]
Top Lobster
No, no, I wasn't.
[76:05]
Matt
Because he's a sweet lady.
[76:06]
Top Lobster
I'm offended because I couldn't get you. Because I couldn't answer. I couldn't answer. Answered. I was like, that's. That's a complex question you're asking me. What is God? It's like, how do you explain it? Do you. But what she's asking me is, do you know God?
[76:16]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's like asking me like, who. Who are you? And I think I do.
[76:20]
Top Lobster
I think I do. I think I'm start. I'm getting better understanding every day. But I'm just like, man, she has.
[76:24]
Matt
A thick Filipino accent. And so it's just kind of like. Yeah, like the way she words questions might be a little different than she's.
[76:31]
Top Lobster
Like, who is God?
[76:31]
Matt
Yeah, but that's just, you know, her thing, bro. But I'm just trying to talk.
[76:34]
Top Lobster
I couldn't answer it, though.
[76:36]
Matt
She takes tons of rice to the Philippines, bro. When she gets there, and takes care of poor people. She's actually a really sweet I just.
[76:41]
Top Lobster
Heard that rice is actually a fake food.
[76:42]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It is a fake food. You know, like the vast majority of his plastic. Oh, my God.
[76:46]
Top Lobster
Yeah.
[76:46]
Matt
It's not.
[76:46]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, dude.
[76:47]
Top Lobster
Dude, you got.
[76:48]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You're not even up on the stuff. You're just eating plastic.
[76:51]
Top Lobster
You're not on Twitter.
[76:52]
Matt
I don't eat rice. I mean, I eat some.
[76:54]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, well, you're eating some plastic then.
[76:56]
Top Lobster
So who is God? What is it? So this is the question. Yeah, see, if some. If I ask you, who's God? Matt, answer it. It's a hard question, dude.
[77:03]
Matt
I mean, I just start with the creator of the universe. I think I cultivated that from the scripture because, like, dudes, when they would pray, would recognize him as the creator of everything first.
[77:11]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Sure, yeah. That's important.
[77:11]
Matt
So I don't know. That's kind of where I start. And then I kind of go into, like. I don't know when, if it's just me, I just go into, like, this private thing. It's like the stuff that only me and him know. So he's like this one that only, like, you know, you have your life when you're like a little kid, and then anything that happened with, like, your mom and dad and your siblings, like, they're the only people in the universe that know about your life.
[77:31]
Top Lobster
Sure.
[77:31]
Matt
Then you kind of go to, you know, elementary school, you got a group of people. Then you go to junior high, you got another group of people. Maybe some of the same. High school, maybe some of the same, but different people. Then you're like a grown up and you're like, doing your thing. Then you find a wife, then you have kids, the only one. And then you're, like, kind of separated from the people you were with in your house as a child. And it's kind of separate. The only one who was with you the whole time is God. Like, that's like this rad thing is like, yo. The only one who really knows me, who, like, really knows, knows what's gone on, is just God. And we have, like, this secret thing. Me and him have this secret thing where, like, stuff happens and, you know, like, a thing happens. Maybe nobody else in the universe will understand it but me and God. Like, yeah, bro, did you. You just.
[78:14]
Top Lobster
People just walked into my coffee shop.
[78:17]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's what you told God when we showed up.
[78:19]
Top Lobster
Yeah. I'm gonna open up a podcast.
[78:20]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm thinking that I'm gonna do a podcast.
[78:22]
Matt
No, but I definitely was like, God, what do you want me to do with this?
[78:24]
Top Lobster
I'm gonna pressure this guy.
[78:26]
Matt
Like, I really like this guy. But, like, I don't know. It's, like, kind of strange. And then they're just, like, ready to open a podcast studio.
[78:35]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Top was called me. He's like, I don't know, man. I. This is scary. I'm scared about doing this because, you know, it's like, it's a lot to put on.
[78:41]
Top Lobster
No, he wasn't.
[78:42]
Matt
Dude, he totally pushed it and pushed it with Jedi, like, mind tricks.
[78:48]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And.
[78:48]
Matt
Then he would do reverse psychology. Like, yeah, no, I don't know if you really want to do this. I was like, yeah, I never said I did. Like, are you talking about.
[78:53]
Top Lobster
Like, he keeps scowling. He.
[78:54]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He would call me up and he'd be like, I don't think this guy knows what this means. And, like, open up a thing in his style and. But he wants to do it.
[79:00]
Matt
Can I just say something, though? This has been, like, the funnest thing. I'm so glad that all this is happening. No, not to be. No, not to be, like, too, like, a much of a fan or whatever, but this is, like, the coolest, funnest thing. I'm so glad that, like, we're doing this.
[79:13]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Even though I like to say more decor, though, right?
[79:15]
Matt
Yeah. I like to say mean stuff when we're texting and, like, say mean jokes to you guys because I feel like I have to be witty and, like, on my feet because you guys, like, sharp and witty with the joke jokes. But I really am grateful, honestly.
[79:25]
Top Lobster
We're just feeling a little gassy right now.
[79:26]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I was going to say that.
[79:28]
Matt
Just go, dude. Go and come back. Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword or they will be jailed and robbed. Remember when I was talking about, like, retirement?
[79:40]
Top Lobster
Oh, yeah, yeah.
[79:41]
Matt
No, this is where it comes from, bro. Look, the people who know their God will be strong and will resist him, this Antichrist. Like, maybe this is to talking about many Antichrists, plural, but maybe it's talking about the Antichrist, right? The people who know their God will be strong and will resist him. Wise leaders will give instruction to many. But these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed. That's what I'm saying. In retirement. I'm not looking to go golfing and go on cruise.
[80:07]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You're looking to get decapitated.
[80:09]
Matt
Yeah, I'm looking to, like, preach the gospel and go hard all the way to the end. Like, dealing with people who are like, you think. Think it's once saved, always Saved. Because I want to just get the insurance and do whatever I want. What? No, go hard.
[80:21]
Top Lobster
The T shirt is retirement plan in the. Dude.
[80:24]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah. In the guillotine. Honestly, my only thing is I just hope it's sharp and I hope it's fast. You know what I mean? Like, I don't want to, like, get filleted, like, have my.
[80:33]
Matt
I don't either. I don't want to die like that. But I'm just saying, I also don't want it to be envisioning for my life, like, if I can keep my.
[80:39]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Pants on when it happens. And I. Because. Because there's a lot of naked stuff that happens. Like you torture people. You take.
[80:44]
Matt
Do this.
[80:45]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm just saying, like, if my. If I leave this place and my head rolls and I'm proclaiming Jesus Christ, you know, as it tumbles to the.
[80:52]
Matt
Ground, it's over, bro. And then you're in the eternal world.
[80:54]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I will feel a little bit bummed out, though, if I. If, like, they take my skin away from me or.
[80:59]
Matt
That's fair. That'd be rough. Yeah.
[81:00]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And also, like, if I'm like, grown.
[81:02]
Top Lobster
Attached to my skin.
[81:03]
Matt
No, no. I think about that too. That would be sucky, the whole torture thing or whatever. But it's like, bro, it's so temperate.
[81:09]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What if they made you naked, but they did something with your hands where you couldn't get cover yourself?
[81:13]
Matt
I don't know why he ruins the moment like this. He makes it like so.
[81:16]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And then everybody sees it and you're like, no. And you want to cover it.
[81:19]
Top Lobster
But this isn't a game.
[81:20]
Matt
What's going on with this guy?
[81:22]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm just naming things that would bum me out a little bit. I mean, I'd still do it.
[81:24]
Top Lobster
Talking about our 401k retirement plan and you're here joking?
[81:27]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I mean, I'm just trying to imagine what it might be like.
[81:30]
Top Lobster
Matt, Matthew, please, can you keep reading?
[81:32]
Matt
Yeah. Wise leaders will give instructions to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and rob, robbed. During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere. Oh, does people know what they're signing up for when they come to Christ? I just don't think people have been told this, dude, like, this is what you're signing up for. There's going to be a bunch of fakers. There's going to be a bunch of hypocrites. During these persecutions, little help will arrive and many who join them will not Be sincere.
[82:00]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[82:01]
Matt
And then Jesus comes on the scene and all of his preaching is against. Hypocrites. Hypocrites. Like, I. I don't know. I just don't know if people understand what they're signing up for when they come to Christ.
[82:10]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I didn't know that.
[82:11]
Matt
And I've.
[82:11]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I've seen that lately, I guess, what with the, you know, entering the 501c3 thing, because I wasn't raised in the church, but now I. So I. I came into it as an extremist. You know what I mean?
[82:21]
Matt
And I'm shocked to hear that.
[82:22]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And I see it and I go, okay, yeah, based. I get it. But then I look around and I'm like, oh, these other people that are, like, claiming to be about this thing. Like, I don't know.
[82:31]
Matt
Yeah, he's in the room, but not in the room.
[82:33]
Top Lobster
Yeah, he's doing the thing again.
[82:34]
Matt
Raised by wolves.
[82:35]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't know, man. I was just saying something. Can you keep reading?
[82:39]
Matt
Do you think he was raised by wolves? I have this sneaking suspicion that, like.
[82:43]
Top Lobster
I don't know what he was raised by, to be honest. Sometimes I think about it. The microphone. See? See what I mean? This is what a wolf would do.
[82:50]
Matt
Exactly.
[82:52]
Top Lobster
Right on, brother.
[82:54]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Come on, come on, please stop. You know, do the thing. Read.
[82:58]
Matt
During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere. That's kind of too heavy of a passage to be joking like that, but it's. It's just is what it is. And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way. They will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end. For the appointed time is still to come. The king will do as he pleases, exalting himself and claiming to be greater than every God, even blaspheming the God of gods. He will succeed, but only until the time of wrath is completed for what has been determined.
[83:27]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm sorry, can I just interrupt again?
[83:28]
Matt
Yeah.
[83:29]
Top Lobster
Oh, boy.
[83:29]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That right there. There, going back up a little bit. Even. Even greater than the God of gods, right? When people, you know, don't realize, like, there are other gods, but this is the God, right? Like, it's there over and over again. So it's. It's strange to me when you should introduce that concept to a. You know, we're like. We believe that the pantheons were real, but they're not God. They are these lowercase g gods, lower than God. And they go, oh, that's strange. I'm like, it says it, like, over and over.
[84:00]
Matt
Strange. You're saying, like modern 501C3.
[84:02]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, a lot of people. Yeah, we'll. We'll reject that. And I'm like, that's very strange.
[84:06]
Matt
It's Bible ignorance, bro. There's just like, I'm, I'm telling you because I work in a coffee shop, like, the number one problem, Bible ignorance, dude. I don't care if people have been in church 40, 50, 60 years, it's still. Bible ignorance is the number one issue in the church today.
[84:21]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's crazy to me because it seems to come up pretty open often. God of Gods.
[84:24]
Matt
Of course it does. It's just laughed off because we're such a materialistic, superficial, like, we're just silly geese. Shallow society that all we think of is, like, material stuff. That's why Jesus said, you can't serve God and mammon, dude, because the material gain from money is just so. Just takes you so far away from God.
[84:42]
Top Lobster
I mean, when we first started the show, Tucker Carlson was on our show. An interview. No, he was on an interview and he was talking about the intentional discrepancy that this, today's society has made to differentiate the spiritual realm from the. The natural realm or the physical realm. And I was like, coming from Tucker Crossing, like, what the hell are you talking about, dude? And then he went on to describe how it happened. And you're like, yeah, that's actually just.
[85:06]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Weird when it comes from him because.
[85:07]
Top Lobster
I'm like, it's weird. Like you, you should be a talking head on Fox News. Not necessarily talking about this stuff, but.
[85:13]
Matt
What if he's just waking up, up, though, or. I don't know what you're talking about.
[85:16]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Cabala bracelet.
[85:17]
Top Lobster
I think. I think he's a dude that has known. But when you're on these networks, you're allowed to say so much. You just read the script.
[85:22]
Matt
I don't think a lot of people know, dude.
[85:24]
Top Lobster
I think he did. I think he knows people. Yeah, I mean, he's. He even has some stories about being like, like physical scratches from some kind.
[85:32]
Matt
Well, he was like a Grateful Dead guy too. So I'm sure he was effing around in the spirit realm with like, some intriguing stuff. But that doesn't mean that once he became a professional and got on a hamster wheel and go, go, go, rush, rush, rush. Job, job, work, work, work. That like, you forget. Yeah, you'll just lose all of that. You'll just. You're just like, no, dude, I'm just like making as much money as possible between now and Friday, and then I'm gonna do it again next Friday.
[85:52]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Do you love Tucker Carlson?
[85:54]
Matt
No. I mean, I think he's kind of an intriguing dude. I don't know a whole lot about him, but I think he's pretty. When I first saw him, he was on, like, cnn. I thought. I remember thinking, like, the Fox News guy's kind of intrigued.
[86:03]
Top Lobster
He had the bow tie on cnn.
[86:05]
Matt
It was kind of intriguing. He's like, with all these people who are not having the same view as him, and he's just, like, running ragged on these people. I was like, that's kind of cool. But then, yeah, I didn't really track with them on the Fox thing or now. He's got a cool show, though, that I see sometimes.
[86:19]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right, well, I don't know.
[86:20]
Top Lobster
This just. It's just interesting that he. He brought that into the mainstream consciousness again, rebroad that back and put it in people's faces in a big way, saying, like, hey, this understanding of the spiritual realm has been stripped from you on purpose.
[86:33]
Matt
So you think there's, like, an awakening going on right now with, like, normal people, like, common people.
[86:37]
Top Lobster
Yeah, but we talk about it all the time on the show. There is an awakening happening, but an awakening to what is the question.
[86:42]
Matt
Sure.
[86:43]
Top Lobster
We're trying to move the ball a little as much as we can to, like. Because people are going to wake up no matter what that's happening. And it's almost like on purpose. So it's like, well, what are you going to wake up to? Are you going to wake up and be lied to and led in the wrong direction? Most likely, yes.
[86:56]
Matt
Right. But that's like, where do you go, dude? Like what? Like, if you're a serious. You want to get right with God, like, where do you go? The local 5, 501 C3. I'm not saying don't go. I'm just saying you better get locked into a Bible first.
[87:06]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's a better launching pad for coming to God in a. In a more concise way than some of the other things. My wife, she keeps. My wife, she keeps showing me. She's like, I'm on Tick Tock and I have to select, like, I don't want to see this in my feed. And Tick Tock's like, oh, okay. And then still puts it in her feed and it's like, witchcraft.
[87:24]
Matt
Okay, but at some point, like, get off Tick Tock.
[87:27]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Probably.
[87:28]
Matt
But I'm gonna, like, at some point, probably, like, soon. Like, I do. I Do the gram for the business business. And I do it for like the food forest. Just to like keep track of like what stuff's right you food forest. But I like to just like post a thing and get out of there. But I always catch myself all of a sudden I'm five minutes going like, I'm like, dude, that's five minutes I'll never get back. And I don't care about any of this stuff. I don't care about any of the things. I just.
[87:50]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
This is a good question. So it's like I like I'm listening to another show and they're saying the same thing and I'm like, oh, that's kind of odd and serendipitous. But they're like, yeah, there is a huge wave of paganism and witchcraft craft and it's coming from Tik Tok. Tik Tok is like promoting it rampantly, especially to, to young kids. And it's like so obvious. In my opinion going to a 501C3 church is a much better option than being inundated to spirituality via Tik Tok. Because they're obviously all messed up and then you kind of figure out where you're going from there.
[88:22]
Matt
I mean, but if you're not reading a Bible, it doesn't matter. Well, completely irrelevant.
[88:26]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
There's Bible's there, I think. And you might pick one up and read it.
[88:29]
Matt
I know, but that's almost like allergy shots, bro. Like when you go in for allergy shots, they hit you with a low dose of the thing you're allergic to over and over and over. So that when the real thing hits, it has no effect on you. Like, like that's what you don't want to happen. You don't want to go into this 501C3 system and just get this low dose over and over and over and over and over and over until you're like, yeah, like the real thing will have no effect.
[88:52]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Honestly, it does show up banger testing testimony from people who were involved in witchcraft. And then we're like, oh my God, I've been so wrong. And then they come to Christ and then they have this real testimony that's not a little rubber guy that's used to erase things. And when they share it, it's a lot more potent.
[89:06]
Matt
So where does God send those people to hell? I think when we open the library, like our thought was like, lord, if you got real ones like that you want and you need a place to send them, you could send them here. That's kind of our thought was, like, you don't just want to freeze them out in the 501C3 system. You don't just to want someone like, this dude's on fire for God, like had a real conversion, really wants to know the Lord, and they've got no options. They're just going to go in and sing the songs and do the speech.
[89:28]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And some of the songs are really great.
[89:30]
Matt
Maybe the MC tells a couple of jokes because it's not like heaven and hell's at stake here. It's not like men's souls hanging the balance. Let's just tell a couple jokes. So. Which is kind of what we do here too. But it's on another level to reach another group. Like in the church service. It's like part of the show. And it's just weird. It's just the whole thing's weird. And you. There needs to be a place for real ones. And that's I'm hoping is happening, happening. Like if there is a great awakening happening now, it's like real ones are raking up, waking up. Because we need real ones in the army of God.
[89:56]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Real ones.
[89:57]
Top Lobster
It's happening. It's just a matter of where you're going to steer it to if you. If you have the ability to do so.
[90:03]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right, well, you're getting awfully distracted.
[90:05]
Matt
All right, where are we at? Verse 36?
[90:08]
Top Lobster
I. I can't tell because it's a different translation.
[90:10]
Matt
The king will do as he pleases, exalting himself and claiming to be greater than every God, even blaspheming the God of gods. He will succeed, but only until the time of wrath is completed. For what has been determined will surely take place. He have no respect for the gods of his ancestors or for the God loved by women.
[90:25]
Top Lobster
What's that mean?
[90:26]
Matt
I don't want to get into that or for any other God, for he will boast that he is greater than them all. Go ahead.
[90:31]
Top Lobster
They calling him gay?
[90:32]
Matt
It seems that way. Like my Buddy Israel that you said you were going to reach out to have on the show, but you never did. He.
[90:38]
Top Lobster
Well, the last guy we reached out to, I mean, we had a guy.
[90:41]
Matt
What?
[90:41]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah. You were like, have this guy from Blue Letter. All right, go on.
[90:44]
Top Lobster
Yeah, Now I get it, though.
[90:45]
Matt
Anyway, he says that, like, yeah, it's McCracken, Macron. And like Macron. That. That's his take on it is that.
[90:50]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It is Macron.
[90:51]
Matt
Yeah. You guys would love to have this dude on. You could talk about so many Things, bro. No, Macron won't come on.
[90:58]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But you don't know that.
[90:59]
Top Lobster
Oh, because of the implications with his wife and.
[91:02]
Matt
Yeah. That he doesn't like females. He likes males.
[91:05]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Sure, sure.
[91:07]
Matt
So anyway, that's just an intriguing thing. I wish you'd reach out to the dude and have him on. Like, you guys could have a ton of stuff to talk about. But he'll have no respect for the gods of his ancestors or for the God loved by women, or for any other God, for he will boast that he is in the mall. This is another dude.
[91:20]
Top Lobster
You know what? I was talking to my wife. My wife, my wife about this. Again, a departure. But I don't care.
[91:28]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Don't look at your phone.
[91:29]
Top Lobster
The Super Bowl. The super bowl has that dude. Bad Bunny.
[91:32]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, Bad Boonie.
[91:33]
Top Lobster
Yeah. When I look at him, I get why he's there. He's a big star. A lot of people do like him. I don't understand why women like him. Because he is this. He's like a guy. He's got a beard, but he's very effeminate. Almost like Prince. Like Prince plays. He played an androgynous role.
[91:48]
Matt
Wait, Bad Bunny is like a feminine dude?
[91:50]
Top Lobster
Oh, yeah.
[91:51]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He's gay.
[91:51]
Matt
You know, hardcore Puerto Rican rapper.
[91:53]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I feel like that's the same thing.
[91:55]
Top Lobster
It's super. Like, bro.
[91:56]
Matt
What? Anytime I ever see Bad Bunny, it's like something.
[91:59]
Top Lobster
His name is Bad Bunny and he's a cross dress.
[92:02]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can you bring up some images of Bad Bunny?
[92:04]
Matt
No, I don't want to see it. I don't want to see that. Like, ruins it. I always thought this dude, Bad Bunny, was like, NWA of Puerto Rico.
[92:09]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You know what's really funny about. I noticed this about you.
[92:12]
Top Lobster
What about me? You.
[92:13]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You will fumble the word women very often, and you will say woman as plural. And it's very funny, and it brings me great joy.
[92:20]
Top Lobster
Woman. Woman.
[92:21]
Matt
I don't know.
[92:22]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Women. Women versus woman, singular versus plural.
[92:27]
Matt
When you use that.
[92:28]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's funny when you. When he goes to say women plural, he says woman, and it's. It's actually fantastic.
[92:34]
Matt
It's totally inappropriate.
[92:35]
Top Lobster
Yeah.
[92:35]
Matt
These are not beyond right now.
[92:36]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, it's fine. It's just. It's just a dude.
[92:38]
Top Lobster
You have to make the example that this dude is like Nancy.
[92:41]
Matt
Anyway, get on the battle.
[92:42]
Top Lobster
The God of. The God of. The God of woman. It's an interesting thing. And I was dissecting with my wife, and she's like, whatever you say, sweetie. But I was like, why are women so attracted to this and they do this thing. Him, Prince. There's other people that do this.
[92:54]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Think about hair metal in the 80s, right?
[92:55]
Top Lobster
Hair metal in the 80s.
[92:56]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Kiss.
[92:57]
Top Lobster
It's very, like, effeminate almost. And they're. They're portraying themselves as this, like, weird androgynous figure that is almost like God, like, or something like that.
[93:06]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Interesting.
[93:06]
Top Lobster
But it represents a woman. But they're also representing. Representing the masculine as well.
[93:10]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Right.
[93:10]
Top Lobster
It's very strange, but I. I recognize what they're doing. And you see women fall for this. Women, women, woman, Whatever, dude. You see them. You see them constantly falling all over themselves for this when it's conventionally not.
[93:25]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What they're after, what they're actually attracted to. Yeah, well, that's like when feminism tells men to get in touch with their feminine side. And then women will secretly go online and be like, when my husband cried, it really turns me off from him. And it's like, that's funny.
[93:38]
Top Lobster
But that's the God that is the God of woman that we're just. That. I think that they're talking about that weird underlying thing. It's always there.
[93:45]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And.
[93:46]
Top Lobster
And you can never. I can never really put my finger on it, but it's there, and I don't like it.
[93:50]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Did you pay attention to any. That you were texting, like, it.
[93:52]
Top Lobster
He was these guys.
[93:55]
Matt
But you brought. You did bring up a point like that. The feminist movement, like, destroyed women, dude. Like, the whole, like. And women. Yeah, the household. Household. Like, not like it used to be back in the day. Like a husband and a wife. They were both around the house. Like, they both had a thing like it. Like, it wasn't, like, going to work for the man. Right. Both around then there came a time period where the man went off to work, but at least the mom was still home and taking care of the house and stuff. Then they took the mom out. Not enough wealthy women, they're, like, super successful, and they're like, yo, I wish I would have just been a mom. Like, I would. Like, like, that's what I really wanted to. To do. And I got so serious about my career that, like, I didn't have kids. And then by the time I figured out, it was too late. And now, like, I'm older, and I really wish I would have just been a mom. I see that that's a common thing.
[94:41]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, yeah.
[94:41]
Matt
And that's just the way the spirit realm, like, dupes people.
[94:43]
Top Lobster
A lot of people aren't ready to have that. But that's like a 1913 discussion when you're talking about the creation of the Federal reserve. And then 1919, when you're talking about Woodrow Wilson and. And women's. Woman's rights. Most of them didn't want it. And then they kind of just made it happen. But that's where the implicate. That's where. That's where it's all instituted. 1913, the Federal Reserve and then taxation goes up, doubles. They realize that, oh, wow, we have half the people that we can tax.
[95:07]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's it. Yeah.
[95:08]
Top Lobster
Also double up that family income. And at the same. It's the same guy that did both of these things at the same time. It's the same movement moving in the same direction. And then look at the destabilization behind.
[95:18]
Matt
That guy is Satan. Like, behind all this stuff is the lowercase.
[95:21]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
How do we get this world state to raise these children if mom in the way. Mom, get in there. Let's take a little taxi.
[95:27]
Top Lobster
Get a messy. This. This discussion could really anger a lot of people. But it's like, it's just one of those things, especially women's. When you spell it out, you go, oh, my God, that was really nefarious.
[95:36]
Matt
What did Andre from Outcast say? This next line could put a pause to half of the applause. That's what he was saying was something offensive to females, bro.
[95:43]
Top Lobster
But I like that. Yeah, yeah, we make women mad.
[95:46]
Matt
Instead of these. He will worship the God of fortresses, a God his ancestors never knew, and lavish on him gold, silver, precious stones, and expensive kings gifts, claiming this foreign God's help. He will attack the strongest fortresses. He will honor those who submit to him, appointing them to positions of authority and dividing the land among them as their reward. Then, at the time of the end, the king of the south will attack the king of the north. The king of the north will storm out with chariots, charioteers and a vast navy. He'll invade various lands and sweep through them like a flood. He will enter the glorious land of Israel and many nations will fall. This is intriguing, but Moab Edom and the best part of Amman, which is Jordan, will assume escape. And he will conquer many countries. And even Egypt will not escape. He will gain control over the gold, silver, and treasures of Egypt, and the Libyans and Ethiopians will be his servants. But then news from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in great anger to destroy and obliterate many. He will stop between the glorious holy mountain and the sea and will pitch his royal tents. But while he is there, his time will Suddenly run out and no one will help help him. At that time, Michael the archangel, who stands guard over your nation will arise. He's speaking to Daniel.
[96:56]
Top Lobster
We're in the next chapter, huh?
[96:58]
Matt
Yeah. Chapter 12, verse one at that. It's. It's short. That's what I'm saying. This all has to go in order. You can't, like, drop this off for another episode. Are you gonna say we have to end right now?
[97:07]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, no, but, like, you know, it won't.
[97:09]
Top Lobster
Let me go.
[97:09]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Speed it up.
[97:10]
Matt
Oh, okay. My bad. I just felt like you were, like, getting a sidetracked and talking about bad bunnies and.
[97:14]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, you were the one who was.
[97:15]
Top Lobster
Like, the way the. The Internet works is I can't turn a page. I got to find a button. Yeah, and sometimes these websites are not as intuitive, Right? Yeah, so.
[97:25]
Matt
So we, like, downgraded what we're using.
[97:27]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, actually, I think this one is actually better. This is much better.
[97:31]
Top Lobster
Still not as intuitive. We should make our own app. We should make our own website app of the things that we want to see with it now.
[97:36]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
This is crazy. That's way too much.
[97:38]
Matt
Like you said when we had them on. You're like, wow, this is incredible. It's quite an undertaking to do.
[97:42]
Top Lobster
This goes a long way.
[97:43]
Matt
I'm just saying at that time, Michael the archangel, who stands guard over your nation. So. So that's what Michael does. He watches over Israel. Whether you like Israel or hate Israel, whatever.
[97:54]
Top Lobster
I don't hate Israel.
[97:56]
Matt
I'm not saying you. I'm saying whoever. If there's like a couple hundred people listening to the show, that those people hate Israel. Yeah, like, I'm just telling those people, like, okay, no problem. I'm just saying that Michael stands guard over the nation of Israel. That's all I'm saying.
[98:12]
Top Lobster
Who stands guard over the nation of America?
[98:14]
Matt
Yeah, great question, bro. There is a. You guys probably know the name, right?
[98:18]
Top Lobster
Of the Moloch. But here's the thing, though. The nation of Israel. The nation of America is being like. The political nation of America is being influenced by the nation of Israel. So shouldn't it bear better fruit?
[98:31]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Where's our fruit?
[98:32]
Top Lobster
Where's our good fruit, dog?
[98:33]
Matt
You, bro, you hate. I'm like this.
[98:35]
Top Lobster
No, I don't. I don't hate it. I don't hate it.
[98:37]
Matt
What nation is bearing good fruit on the. The planet.
[98:39]
Top Lobster
Shouldn't Israel there.
[98:41]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Look, everybody in the chat is like, I love Israel. So what's the problem? Who are you talking to? You think we're terrible okay, that's different.
[98:51]
Matt
The dude's name is Eloim. I'm not doing this.
[98:53]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, but Makabala says, no, I don't hate the people of Israel.
[98:57]
Top Lobster
We like the people of Israel.
[98:58]
Matt
Yeah, yeah. Nobody's saying there's not a deep state in every nation, including Israel. And nobody's saying, like, although scripture, Israel wasn't doing bad.
[99:04]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But you're like, nds hates Israel nds other people that love nds hate you say that.
[99:09]
Matt
Make the point that, like, there's a God over that nation and there's an archangel over that nation. That's all I'm saying.
[99:14]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay. Well, it's just.
[99:15]
Matt
At that time, Michael, the archangel who stands guard over your nation will arise. Then there will be a time of anguish greater than any since nations first came into existence. So this has to be talking about the end. End. But at that time, every one of your people whose name is written in the book will be rescued. Many of those whose bodies lie dead and buried will rise up, some to everlasting life and some to shame and. And everlasting disgrace.
[99:36]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is that raptured?
[99:40]
Matt
No.
[99:40]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
If your name's written in the book of life, you should.
[99:42]
Top Lobster
They'll be rescued, taken out of trouble.
[99:44]
Matt
As many of those whose bodies lie dead.
[99:47]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, wait, before that.
[99:49]
Matt
But at that time, every one of your people whose name is written in the book will be rescued.
[99:53]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And then what about the dead bodies?
[99:56]
Matt
Many of those whose bodies lie dead and buried will rise up, some to everlasting life and some to shame.
[100:00]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So we're talking about a supernatural event where people who. Whose names are written in the book of life, if their dead bodies are in the street, they're going to reanimate.
[100:08]
Matt
I don't think that's about dead bodies in the street.
[100:09]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But that's what it said, right?
[100:11]
Matt
No, no, it just said dead bodies. But I like what you're alluding to. The two witnesses that their. Their dead bodies will be in the street.
[100:16]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I mean, it sounds like a supernatural event. Sounds like rapture plugs in pretty well.
[100:19]
Matt
Could, yeah.
[100:20]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Rapture. Yay or nay. You big fan?
[100:22]
Matt
Or the resurrection. Like, could be. It could be either. Could be people getting blasted on your view. You. Yeah.
[100:28]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What do you think?
[100:29]
Top Lobster
Well, I mean, the translation here is they'll awake to be awake and aroused, show signs of waking. So what does that. What is that? Is it speaking about the living or is it speaking about.
[100:40]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What are you using to find those translations?
[100:43]
Top Lobster
A website. Okay, there's a website.
[100:46]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right.
[100:48]
Matt
Yeah. It says at that time Thy people shall be delivered. Everyone that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep or they're dead, and the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
[101:00]
Top Lobster
Many of them that sleep.
[101:01]
Matt
But regardless, I just. People have this misconception about eternal life. Eternal life's not a. Not a time period. Every spirit's going to exist. It's saying that. It's clear right here. Everlasting life or everlasting contempt. So I think some people think like, oh, eternal life is a. Is a time period. No, that's not what it's talking to. It's a state of life, eternal life. And Jesus says it is to know God and to know Jesus, like, that's eternal life. So we enter into eternal life now. Now. But every spirit is going to exist forever. That's a lot. So I know some people are like, oh, no, they won't be in this state of whatever they want to call it torment. But that seems to be exactly what the Bible spells out, the state of torment.
[101:48]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, you're taking shots.
[101:50]
Matt
No, I'm just saying that that's. That that's definitely a thing. It talks about the state of torment. Now we can. Exactly. We can talk about what that is. We can talk about if there's different levels.
[101:59]
Top Lobster
Levels.
[101:59]
Matt
There is a judgment. We talked about the judgment. And the books are opened and the dead are judged out of those books, plural. Okay. So it seems reasonable that everybody's not going to have the same judgment in.
[102:11]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
The lake of fire, isn't it? Couldn't, like, sort of torment be a. A distance from God? Not knowing God, not being in God's light. Is that a form of. Sure, because it is.
[102:22]
Top Lobster
Where do you.
[102:22]
Matt
If you want torment to be a thing? Like. Like whatever.
[102:25]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I really want it to be a thing. I really want torment to be a thing. I really want the eternal torture of a. Of a person for the sins they've committed and not repented for. And not knowing Christ.
[102:35]
Top Lobster
Toil, loss.
[102:35]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Toil, loss. Okay, so pain, right? Are we. Are we.
[102:39]
Matt
So if you're saying all that is. Is separation from God, maybe.
[102:42]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What do you think it is?
[102:43]
Matt
I mean, I think it's what Jesus says it is, man. Like the fire that never dies, the worm that never dies, man.
[102:48]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So it's like, hot.
[102:51]
Top Lobster
Well, I mean, think about. Think about these. The heavenly. Only the. The angels, the Elohim. It seems like when they're close to him, these things are, like, wonderful. But when they get Drawn away from them. Look at how they're represented today. Whether they really are represented like that, but like as like these decrepit things, these like this evil looking thing, this dragon. They're further from God. So maybe they're like physically representing what that feels like.
[103:14]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't know.
[103:15]
Matt
I don't know.
[103:15]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I wish I would say something, but he's like, what do you mean?
[103:18]
Matt
No, I just said it. What do you. Dude, no, that's. I said it.
[103:21]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[103:22]
Matt
What are you looking for?
[103:23]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't know because people are like, it's gonna hurt.
[103:25]
Top Lobster
Matt, let me ask you something real quick. Can I ask you something?
[103:28]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah. Oh yeah.
[103:29]
Top Lobster
Okay. Do you think. Do you think everybody has a soul? Every single person, like right now, today?
[103:33]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Do you think he's asking you about NPCs?
[103:35]
Top Lobster
NPCs.
[103:35]
Matt
Every. Oh, I don't know, you're saying like there's entities on the earth walking. So for like may not be this. The scripture is clear that a human, a descendant of Adam.
[103:42]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[103:43]
Matt
Which is what the Bible's about. Which is what Jesus died for. Descendants of Adam. Right.
[103:48]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay.
[103:48]
Matt
Those are made of spirit, soul and body. Whatever you're talking about. For maybe the MK Ultra.
[103:53]
Top Lobster
No, I'm just talking about like empty vessels just walking around. Like you see a lot of us.
[103:57]
Matt
I don't know enough about the stuff, but it wouldn't surprise me.
[104:00]
Top Lobster
You ever met somebody like walk through and you go, oh my God, is there any. Is there any light behind the eyes there?
[104:05]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's a good T shirt. I don't know enough about the stuff.
[104:08]
Top Lobster
That's not a good T shirt.
[104:09]
Matt
No, I. You guys are all like, suck. You guys know all the current events. Like you guys.
[104:13]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't know anything.
[104:14]
Matt
I don't know any of the stuff, but if you're saying like walking or around that are non human, I'd say yeah, the Bible would support that.
[104:20]
Top Lobster
I've just met too many people that I wouldn't even say they're non human people.
[104:24]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That was a toad moment that they.
[104:25]
Top Lobster
Come and when I see them I go, oh my God. Like, is there anything here? Is there anything? Can. Can this be woken up or is just like an empty vessel just like taking up space? Is there. Are they making more souls or did they just fill one? They're like, we just need a meat suit. And the guy just walks around and he does his job.
[104:43]
Matt
Job.
[104:43]
Top Lobster
His 9 to 5,501c3 pay tax, whatever.
[104:47]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It is, plays the show. The big show, plays the show.
[104:49]
Top Lobster
The smoke machine the lights.
[104:50]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, that's. I don't know. We're just trying to cater to you. Anything to make you stop making the faces really, is what we're trying to do. All right, let's get. Can we have to bring this in for. No, I do. I have to take my son to parent teacher night.
[105:01]
Top Lobster
No matter.
[105:02]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I got to figure out.
[105:02]
Matt
Oh, no, we're not doing these long episodes anymore.
[105:05]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, there are a little long.
[105:06]
Top Lobster
How long are our podcasts supposed to be?
[105:09]
Matt
This is the end of Daniel, bro. This is a big deal that we went all the way through.
[105:13]
Top Lobster
Take your time.
[105:13]
Matt
Verse 3. And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament. And they that turn many to righteousness as the stars forever and ever.
[105:21]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You think the earth is flat.
[105:22]
Matt
I just love this because I'm not even gonna. I'm not doing this. I love this because it's like this picture of, like, the evil is gonna get more evil. Yeah. The good is gonna get more good, man. I like that. One of the things I like about the dude, Trump. I'm not gonna get in with you guys, but I'm gonna get more. Is that he did start to say things in such a way where you did have to make up your mind.
[105:41]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So you love them.
[105:42]
Matt
You did have to make up your mind and say, damn. Like, that's a thing. And I do have to pick a side here, and that's great, because, like, the worst thing that could happen is all of humanity just kind of goes through the fog of war and just goes right off the cliff forever.
[105:53]
Top Lobster
One of these never. I worked in. When I was working in the MTA underground, swinging a hammer and stuff, working with tough dudes and tough, tough dudes. Trump gets elected. When he initially gets elected, this. This same dude screwed. Screamed down the tracks. I thought. I thought it got his leg cut off.
[106:09]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What do you do? Like, he was on his phone.
[106:14]
Top Lobster
Ripping at the shirt. Whatever.
[106:15]
Matt
So mad.
[106:16]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So mad.
[106:17]
Top Lobster
Like, he was like, they're gonna put us in chains. And I was like, I don't. I'm not sure.
[106:20]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Call that guy up and be like, how the chains. No.
[106:22]
Top Lobster
So one day I'm talking to him, and I go. He's like, what do you think about Trump, player? And I'm just. I go, playboy. I go, trump is like. I. I said the same thing you said. I, like, I appreciate him because he's a polarizing figure, and he's, like, polarizing, rising. What do you mean, polarizing? And I was like, polarizing black and white. Like. Like, he makes things black and white. Yeah, there is no.
[106:39]
Matt
The whole planet owes him a debt of gratitude for that. I'm not saying he's a good guy, bad guy or whatever. I'm saying nobody was ever saying the thing said he. He came out and said the things that like, needed to be said and he put light on issues that were in the dark. I appreciate that, people. Yeah, same that guess side. Like the number one thing that we'll look back on and appreciate him was the things he brought to light. Now I know there's people like, he's a liar. He doesn't bring anything like. That's fine, that's fine, whatever. I'm just saying he exposed so many things. Like just even think about this phrase called the fake news, bro.
[107:11]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, yeah.
[107:12]
Matt
Like when he first came on the scene, people believed the news back then.
[107:14]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[107:15]
Matt
You didn't know about that. Like the average person thought like CNN and Fox News was like the real news, dude. Now nobody believes the news.
[107:22]
Top Lobster
Half the people that I knew, maybe more, are legitimate crazy, crazy people. You'd never know unless you have that figure that kind of comes and just delineates.
[107:31]
Matt
Right.
[107:31]
Top Lobster
And it's like, oh my God. And it's horrible because I guess maybe they were always like that. I think we were talking about this on the phone call before. I was like, well, what's in this person's heart? Is it always like that?
[107:40]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can it change?
[107:41]
Top Lobster
Trump was one of these people who kind of just sifted and.
[107:43]
Matt
Yeah, I love that. Yeah, yeah, I'm grateful for that.
[107:46]
Top Lobster
Yeah, the pieces are on the board that. That's grateful. I'm grateful for that.
[107:50]
Matt
Same.
[107:50]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right.
[107:51]
Matt
Many of those whose bodies lie dead and buried will rise up, some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting disgrace. Those who are wise will shine as bright as the sky. And those who lead many to righteousness will shine like the stars forever. But you, Daniel, keep this prophecy a secret. Seal up the book until the time of the end when many will rush here and there and knowledge will increase. Like, a lot of people tie that to this time period because there's never been like, you think about a kid right now, like, how many questions I asked my parents or just grown ups in general, and they just gave me a BS answer just to get me off their back, which I don't blame them for that. Like a kid now can get an answer to anything. Like at his fingertip. Knowledge is so accessible right now.
[108:27]
Top Lobster
Travel.
[108:28]
Matt
Then I, Daniel, looked and saw two others standing on opposite Banks of the river. One of them asked a man dressed in linen who is now standing above the river. So there's one on each side of the river and one standing above the river. How long will it be until these shocking events are over? The man dressed in linen who is standing above the river raised both his hands toward heaven and took a solemn oath by the one who lives forever, saying, it will go on for a time. Times and half a time. When the shattering of the holy peoples has finally come to an end. That's a wild statement. When the shattering of the holy peoples has finally come to an end, all these things will have happened. I heard what he said, but I did not understand what he meant. So I asked, how will all this finally end, my Lord? But he said, go now, Daniel, for what I have said is kept secret and sealed until the time of the end.
[109:14]
Top Lobster
If you didn't get it, get out of here.
[109:16]
Matt
Many will be purified, cleansed, and refined by these trials, but the wicked will continue in their wickedness, and none of them will understand. Dude, that's a heavy statement about how understanding in the spirit realm works. It's not according to, like, intellect.
[109:29]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[109:30]
Matt
Or education.
[109:30]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's interesting because you. You meet people where you're like, I can show you a thing, and it just seems to not mean anything to you, and you just can't see it. You can't understand it. Like, that's. That's frustrating to me because I'm a guy. Guy that really enjoys when you have that moment with somebody where they go, oh, I get it. And if you can't. Some people just can't do that at all. And that's. That's really. I mean, that goes. Npc, maybe. Npc, I don't know.
[109:52]
Matt
No, they're normal humans, but they're just blinded. Yeah. Which is okay. We have to deal with them like that. We can't get mad at them for that. We have to understand we're dealing with blind people. You're gonna be mean to a blind guy. I know you probably might. Yeah.
[110:05]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But I'm just saying as I possibly can. But you don't really see them.
[110:09]
Matt
You'd be kind to blind people and you. You wouldn't hold them accountable because, like, why didn't you see that stop sign? Like, why didn't you stop? It's like, no, they can't see the stop sign. No.
[110:15]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I think it's important to ask them, though.
[110:17]
Top Lobster
The problem is, though, if you're. If you're guiding you. But, hey, blind man, there's a stop sign there. And they go, this guy's an idiot. Thinks there's a stop sign there. Everyone laugh at him and everyone else.
[110:24]
Matt
I know, but you hate those people. I'm like, no, I get it. I get it, man.
[110:28]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Tap has a hatred.
[110:29]
Top Lobster
I don't have a hatred. I just go, let him walk into the.
[110:33]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
For the audience. Blind people are Jews in this analogy.
[110:36]
Top Lobster
No.
[110:37]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay, okay, fine.
[110:38]
Matt
This is so inappropriate. I wish he would just go deal with the gas and come back.
[110:41]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I am.
[110:42]
Matt
Only those who arise wise will know what it means. From the time the daily sacrifice is stopped and the sacrilegious object that causes desecration is set up to be worshiped, there will be 1290 days.
[110:53]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's very specific.
[110:54]
Matt
And blessed are those who wait and remain until the end of the 1335 days.
[110:58]
Top Lobster
Huh?
[110:59]
Matt
As for you, Daniel, go your way until the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the day days, you will rise again to receive the inheritance set aside for you.
[111:07]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You think the length of the tribulation.
[111:09]
Top Lobster
Is this why they, like, they. They play around with the dates? This is why they keep changing the time?
[111:13]
Matt
I don't know, but I read a thing like this, and I just like, the dude sums it up at the end. Whoever Daniel's talking to, this angel at the end. As for you, go your way until the end. Like, Daniel, you got to do what you got to do in your generation. Like, if you want to make, build charts and graphs and timelines and prove to everybody that you're right with your doctrine and your theology about how the rapture happens and then the tribulation. And this is like, that's great. That's great. Have a good time doing it. But you better just focus on what your job is and your generation and where you live. And don't get so consumed by these things that you don't have any power over, because people are doing that in all the things they're consumed. In the tweeter chat, they just want to tweet the stuff. And it's like, no, no, no. You could be handling business in your life.
[111:53]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I see a lot of that.
[111:54]
Top Lobster
I'm trying to handle my business, Matt.
[111:55]
Matt
But, oh, the Republicans did.
[111:57]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't know that they ever suspended his license.
[111:59]
Matt
Yeah, like the guy who switched screaming and saying, oh, Trump, now we're going to be in chains. It's like, bro, you're using that mental capacity for. You could be using that mental capacity to better your life and, like, do good in your life for your Life and your family, but you're consuming yourself with these things you have no control over.
[112:13]
Top Lobster
Well, to be fair, when talking about mental capacity, he got. He was going to punch me because I said polarizing. He didn't know what the word meant.
[112:19]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Ah, that's probably the problem.
[112:20]
Top Lobster
He thought that I was, like, praising him. I was like, no, no, that's not what the word means. Like, here it is. If we look it up. We looked it up and he was like, oh, yeah, true.
[112:26]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Little Webster dictionary saved you from being stabbed in a subway.
[112:28]
Matt
See what I'm saying? Like, the big takeaway here for me. I don't know. I feel like you weren't really pay attention toward the end because you lost your. No, I was doing two shows, which I said was a bad idea to be.
[112:37]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Sometimes you do three shows.
[112:38]
Top Lobster
You want to do another show, we do another show.
[112:40]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'll do another show right now.
[112:41]
Matt
I'll do right now.
[112:41]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That length of time is fascinating to me, though. Are we talking about the tribulation? Because I've heard that expression is blessed are those who endure to the end.
[112:48]
Matt
Amen.
[112:49]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And that's the second time. So I think it says that in Revelation, but it also says that here, which is obviously talking about the same.
[112:54]
Matt
Kind of event in Revelation. This is a lot of times. To he that overcomes. To he that overcomes, overcomes. To he that overcomes says that a lot. I think Jesus in another place, not in the book of Revelation, but one of the Gospels said to he, he that endures to the end shall be saved.
[113:06]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's very interesting.
[113:07]
Matt
But, yeah, don't do that anymore. No, you said I could, like, have.
[113:10]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You could fidget, but you can't.
[113:12]
Matt
But the bottom line is that, like, the dark is going to get dark. I don't know who's. Who's. The 1300 days, the 1200 days. I don't know. I don't know. But in general, this pattern is going to exist. Dark is going to get dark and light's going to get light, and light gets lighter in a dark place to begin with, and the light's going to be lighter. So I just want to be focused on that, and I want to make sure that I'm not looking like the dark. Like, I don't want to be blending in with whatever society in the world is doing. Because we are clearly two different things. Like, we are clearly two totally different polarized things. Like, the light is totally this thing that's totally different from the dark.
[113:48]
Top Lobster
Yeah.
[113:49]
Matt
And the closer we get to a World like that. Then the closer we're getting to the.
[113:52]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
End, I appreciate when. When. I guess it's similar to the Trump thing. It's like, now I know the darker it gets, the more obvious it gets where you're supposed to be standing.
[114:00]
Top Lobster
I think this is what gets me in trouble. Maybe this is what gets us in trouble. I don't. I mean, we're never in trouble. It's not that I'm stupid, but I act as if everything is very black and white. You know how I feel about things. I'll tell you exactly how I feel. And people, they want the flowery language, I suppose they want the gray. They want the nice little engravements, nicer in the gray.
[114:19]
Matt
But I'm like.
[114:19]
Top Lobster
I'm like, no, I'm gonna tell you this, or I'm telling you that. That and. And people don't seem to like it. But as we move forward, that's the. Those are the people that I like to deal with, the people that'll just say what it is. It's like, great, perfect. Now we know this information, we can move forward and do more things rather than being in this wishy wash. Yeah.
[114:35]
Matt
I have a loved one who says, like, you know, whether you want abortion to be legal or illegal, like, that's whatever, but we need to call it babies.
[114:44]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, like, language.
[114:46]
Matt
Yeah, that's his thing. He's like, it's no problem. If you want to vote for it, it's okay, but we have to call it what it is. Like, and. And I'm not even. He's in this. Dude, I love this guy. He's like, I'm not even arguing with you. Like, I'm not a female.
[114:56]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, but let's not pretend.
[114:57]
Matt
But let's. Let's make sure we're calling it what it is. It is babies. And as long as you want to vote for that, no problem. We can have that discussion. But we have to call things what they are. Yeah, that's what you're saying. I like that, too. Like, let's just be straight.
[115:07]
Top Lobster
You're going to be mad about. You're going to be mad at me for saying the thing like, what it is.
[115:12]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You don't want to deal with conviction, because once things are defined, defined accurately, well, then you have to have conviction in. In your, you know, adherence to one side or another. But if it's all gray and it's all amorphous, well, then there's no conviction. And, you know, it's a diffusion of responsibility. You know what I mean?
[115:27]
Matt
Diffusion.
[115:28]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's what I said.
[115:28]
Top Lobster
Yeah. So I guess as we. As we really start to define terms, this is. We're talking about the light and the dark, these things become more obvious. So we're moving towards. We're moving towards, I guess, fulfilling the prophecy by being specific, by being. Being offensive in some ways, by. By laying things out on the table and saying, this is what it actually is. And that. That's how, I guess, how Jesus operated.
[115:51]
Matt
He didn't beat around the bush with people.
[115:53]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
[115:53]
Top Lobster
So. So do you think? Yeah. So then does God want us to. God wants us to do that.
[115:59]
Matt
Yeah. I mean, Jesus, dude, Jesus was the most blunt man to ever live. I mean, like, he would say stuff. He would generalize entire generations. He'd say, what's this generation like? They're like little kids at the market and say, oh, we played our instruments for you and you didn't dance. We wept for you, but you didn't mourn.
[116:15]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like, there was not one sack.
[116:17]
Matt
But he didn't stop to say, no, I don't mean everybody in this generation. Like, he. Like, he took it for granted that people had a brain and understood that. He's generalizing, but making the broad statement about the entire generation of the day he lived in.
[116:29]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's interesting.
[116:30]
Matt
Like, people today just can't handle that. They think. Especially a pastor, they think. They think they have to go now. I don't mean everybody. I don't mean everybody in this generation or Lord didn't care about that. He'd say, what are the Pharisees like? He'd say, the Pharisees like this. And then boom, he'd blast them. And he never stopped to say, now I know there's some good ones.
[116:46]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Not every Pharisees.
[116:47]
Matt
Nicodemus is my guy. They're not all. He didn't do that, bro. He didn't have any concern for, like, oh, your feelings are hurt by what I'm saying.
[116:54]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's interesting.
[116:55]
Matt
No concern for that, bro. Like, that's a modern American church thing. Or maybe. And the church is probably just getting it from the culture. They're not obviously, getting it from the. The Bible. They're getting it from the culture of like, oh, I don't want to hurt feelings. Because usually truth is what hurts feelings. That's my own personal experience. People have been the most mad at me or had their feelings the most hurt. It's been just because of truth. It hasn't been because of, like, some crazy thing. It's like you're saying a very plain, honest True thing. That's when people really lose their mind.
[117:22]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, that is true. I can think that from experience.
[117:25]
Top Lobster
That's a good spot. Give them, give them your. Let them know something. Yeah, tell them about truth, man.
[117:31]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Tell him about the truth. Well, he kind of just did, but you could do it again.
[117:34]
Matt
Wait, I can just say whatever I want at the end? Because we're closing up.
[117:37]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm thinking about changing this rule because he asked about it every time and I'm thinking, no, say what we want.
[117:41]
Matt
I just feel like I said a lot of stuff and you got me like sidetracked.
[117:44]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
If you don't have any, anything, Wrap it up.
[117:46]
Top Lobster
We have two cameras on you, so wrap it up. Go ahead.
[117:48]
Matt
Okay, I would like to say this. Then. The time of the end is gonna come. Like, whether you live in the time of the end. I know we're like, oh, you think we're in the end times? You think we're in the last, last days. Like, it's coming no matter what. Your life is coming to an end no matter what. Like, you're like, your life could be at an end today, but let's say you live a full life. You live 120 years. Like that's going to come like that and it's going to be gone. And so your time is short. Dark is going to get dark, light is going to get light. And you got to pick a side and you got to be a part of the game. Like, you got to get in the game. There's an entire body dependent on you to take your role in the body. Like if you have a body body and there's eyeballs and kneecaps and elbows and fingernails and all this stuff, and then the leg just isn't there. The body's screwed because that part isn't there. So people have to take up their role. People have to get with God, find out their God given destiny. And if you want to read about that, you can see it in two Timothy 1, 8 and 9, you've been saved and called with a holy calling in Christ Jesus before the world began. Like, you've got to take up that role. Like, you've got to get with God and figure out your destiny. And you've got to be reading a Bible. You've got to be reading it every day, man. And I'm not trying to put you down if you're not. Because it's a journey, because you start in the beginning. It's just like working out or running or anything else. But you got to get on the journey of reading the scripture every day and cultivating that relationship with God so you can be that part of the body that you're called to be because we're dependent on you.
[119:14]
Top Lobster
Well said, Matthew.
[119:15]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Guys, come and see Matthew, Matt, and us when we're here at the Standard coffee shop. I just want to say thank you to the people who've been dropping by, which actually has been happening. I didn't expect it to happen so fast, and I didn't expect to have this many people.
[119:26]
Top Lobster
We're gonna be doing a cool thing. Like, I'm just gonna make a bunch of these. Whatever kind of like little knickknacks I feel like making. I'm gonna make them. If you come by the.
[119:34]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
The.
[119:34]
Top Lobster
The studio, take a selfie in the selfie. If you post it on your social media, we'll, you know, we'll give this stuff out to you.
[119:40]
Matt
John Bunyan was a tinkerer. They called him a tinkerer.
[119:43]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't know who that is.
[119:43]
Top Lobster
I wish.
[119:44]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I wish you wouldn't say that.
[119:45]
Matt
Dude, I gotta get you guys some bunion books. Barely read Pilgrim's Progress.
[119:49]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, dude. Guys, come here. Take selfies, hang out with Matt. Tell him to lighten up on his facial expressions and. And enjoy some coffee. It's really good coffee, actually.
[119:58]
Top Lobster
Yes, please. Drink a drink a coffee. But, guys, until the next episode, I think we'll be back here Friday, but maybe do something tomorrow as well.
[120:04]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, we got to do Neph to America. We got to do Chronicles.
[120:07]
Matt
Yeah, we do.
[120:08]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We got to do Chronicles.
[120:09]
Matt
Yeah, we do.
[120:10]
Top Lobster
Obey, submit, and comply. See you later.
[120:12]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is.
[120:15]
Matt
A oblong box in the corner of the room.
[120:18]
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
[120:22]
Matt
You can persuade this that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of it.
[120:36]
Top Lobster
And they have.