The Book of Revelation Series Part XXIII w/ Ed Mabrie

Summary

Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad – "The Book of Revelation Series Part XXIII w/ Ed Mabry"

Release Date: January 17, 2025
Host/Author: TopLobsta Productions
Guests: Ed Mabry, David Lee Corbo (Raven)

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I. Introduction

In this 23rd installment of the "Book of Revelation Series," hosts Top Lobster and David Lee Corbo (also known as Raven) are joined once again by guest Ed Mabry. The trio delves deep into the intricate descriptions of Revelation Chapter 21, exploring the profound implications of the New Heaven and New Earth through a biblical and conspiratorial lens. The episode intertwines theological insights with personal anecdotes, offering listeners a comprehensive understanding of the eschatological visions presented in the Book of Revelation.

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II. Exploring Revelation Chapter 21

A. New Heaven and New Earth

Ed Mabry opens the discussion by reading and interpreting Revelation Chapter 21, where John envisions a "new heaven and a new Earth." Mabry explains:

Ed Mabry [10:28]: "They saw a new heaven and a new Earth. That means the old heaven and old Earth passed away."

He connects this transformation to biblical references in 2 Peter, emphasizing the total renewal of creation where the former corrupt aspects are eradicated.

B. The New Jerusalem: Structure and Significance

A significant portion of the episode focuses on the physical and symbolic structure of the New Jerusalem.

• Size and Dimensions:

  Mabry discusses the city's colossal dimensions as described in the scripture, translating biblical measurements into contemporary terms to illustrate its vastness.

  Ed Mabry [48:46]: "It's going to take up over a third of the size of the United States."

• Architectural Features:

  The city is portrayed as a four-square structure, potentially a cube or pyramid, with walls of transparent gold and twelve gates made of single pearls—symbolizing inclusivity and purity.

  Top Lobster [25:23]: "It feels like you could do a pilgrimage to this city and walk around the gates like a portal."

• Gates and Foundations:

  Each gate bears the name of one of the twelve tribes of Israel, representing the divine connection between the Hebrew tribes and the broader nations. The twelve foundations are adorned with precious stones, each corresponding to an apostle, symbolizing the foundation of faith upon which the city rests.

  Ed Mabry [86:22]: "Each one has one of our names on a stone."

C. Theological Implications on Time and Eternity

The hosts delve into the nature of time in eternity, contrasting human linear perception with divine simultaneity.

Ed Mabry [32:21]: "Eternity is a constant present. We're always in the present. We're not saying, 'Hey, what I'm going to do next week.'"

This discussion highlights the belief that eternal life involves a perpetual state of being intertwined with God's presence, devoid of the linear progression of time experienced on Earth.

D. Governance and Organization in New Jerusalem

Mabry speculates on the societal structure within the New Jerusalem, suggesting a division into nations led by mature believers who facilitate growth and understanding among less experienced individuals.

Ed Mabry [73:12]: "These leaders are going to be the ones shepherding people, these groups based on their needs."

He envisions a harmonious society where leaders are not overbearing but are instead facilitators of communal and spiritual development.

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III. Notable Quotes

Throughout the episode, several poignant quotes encapsulate the hosts' interpretations and insights:

• Ed Mabry [00:00]: "We are being hypnotized by people like this. Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers."

• David Lee Corbo [21:40]: "Imagine if the oceans weren't here right now, imagine how much land we'd have."

• Top Lobster [85:18]: "The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner of the room."

• Ed Mabry [86:22]: "We'll be able to fully experience God. He won't be holding anything back from us for our safety."

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IV. Conclusion and Future Directions

As the episode nears its end, the hosts announce upcoming content:

• Bible Study Group: Ed Mabry introduces a new Bible study series scheduled to start on February 16th, aimed at mature Christians seeking a deeper understanding of the scriptures from a supernatural perspective.

  Ed Mabry [97:07]: "My opinion is that's when I get into my crazy wild theory that may or may not be even remotely true, but it's speculation and we're going to do that."

• Future Episodes: The discussion will continue with more detailed explorations of the New Jerusalem and eventual conclusions wrapping up the Revelation series.

• Support and Resources: Listeners are encouraged to support the podcast through Patreon and access additional resources at FaithByReason.net.

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V. Additional Remarks

Interspersed with theological discussions are personal anecdotes from the hosts about their experiences with modern societal issues, such as the pervasive nature of pornography and its spiritual implications. While these stories provide a personal touch, the primary focus remains on the biblical interpretations of Revelation.

Ed Mabry emphasizes the importance of discerning information and maintaining spiritual integrity in a world rife with misinformation and spiritual deception.

Ed Mabry [75:50]: "If you know, Ed, but going against, going against Fauci."

The episode concludes with a reminder of their upcoming Bible study and a call to remain vigilant against societal and spiritual manipulations.

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Transcript

[Ed Mabry]

We are being hypnotized by people like this. Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, yeah, dude, there's some Nephilim shit.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's like we all know what's going down but no one's saying to what happened to the home of the brave? These take control us now when no one's talking about how they made us f they slaves and everybody's just walking around heading the clouds I want to wake up to a dead in the grave but it's too late we need to be ready to raise up. Welcome to the end of day Everybody is slave.

[Ed Mabry]

Only some are aware that the government.

[David Lee Corbo]

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven that is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. Before we get into today's episode, I'd just like to remind everybody that a great way to support this show, if you're looking to do so, is to go over to patreon.com backslash nephilim death squad. Sign up at whatever tier you want, and you get a bunch of varying perks. Discount codes off of merchandise from Top Lobster.com early access to episodes before they drop ad, free viewing experiences, and more. A great way to support the show and a great community to be a part of. Also, don't forget to go to top lobster.com because we now have our dangerous holsters. They are up on the front page of Top lobster dot com. We're collaborating with Snappy Holsters to bring you guys a very cool product. For those of you that are conceal and carry holders, this might be something that you might want to get yourself. Look at it. It's beautiful, isn't it? Guys? Today is Friday, and Fridays are for the Lord. So we are continuing with our Book of Revelation series, episode number 23, joined once again by Ed Mabry. We keep taking too much time off in between these things, and I got to admit, I get to miss an Ed. I really do. I enjoy our conversations. We're. We're 20 minutes late because every time we get together, we're just chatting it up. But if you.

[Ed Mabry]

Well, what. I need to start coming on earlier. I usually come on, like, right around the time you're supposed to start. I need to just come on. And so I apologize.

[David Lee Corbo]

We do the same Thing we, we don't hop in until like it's like five minutes till the show starts and then we sit in the chair.

[Ed Mabry]

So I'll come a little earlier so we can get our chatting out of the way so we can start on time.

[David Lee Corbo]

So people, yes, we'll need about an extra half an hour. Ed, let them know because you got some new things that you're cooking. I know you started your Patreon, so let's, let's tell people where they can find you and where they can support you.

[Ed Mabry]

Right. So the main place to find me is as you see here, face by Reason.net. that is where all my, all my stuff is generally speaking. But as you probably see it at the, at the top there, I've just started a Patreon, so I'm doing it for a couple reasons. Number one, it's a way for folks to support the show and I appreciate the support. And, and for that, you know, it's not, you're not just getting, you're not just giving me money for nothing. I want to give you guys some things in return. So if you are at the, at the red tier, the, the, the, the low, the tier one, you get the information. I put out the content before anyone else. Like for example, my Patreon, some people already signed up. They got the, the latest in the Genesis series last week and I'm getting that before it even goes on my website or on YouTube. So it's going to be public in about, in another week. But Patreons get it first. They also get bonus content that I'm not releasing. There's, there's one coming up next week that I already recorded. I'm going to put it up. And this is all about discernment, how to tell false prophets from people who actually have real prophetic information because there's a ton of them out there in social media who are saying they got this word from God about what's going to happen in 2025 and all this kind of stuff. And so I'm giving you some rules to use when to discern these, the real people from the false ones. And, and, and you know how to assess that out. So that's another. So, and I'll be doing bonus content regularly and also I'm doing Q&As. So every week you, you sign up at this five dollar tier, send me your questions and every week I will do a video where I answer your questions. So that's what you get. So you get all that for the low, low price. Of $5. If you want to jump up a tier, you, in addition to everything you get in the first tier, you also get to be a part of the Bible study that, that we do every month, just a few times. And people have really been interested in it because it's something I did, I've been doing as a private group. We've been doing it for like five years, refining it and it, and, and now I'm ready to let the. More people see it because it, it's just, it was a group. It was like my private church, not my private church. It was like, it was, it was a church service that I did with, with a group of people, with a group of friends. And now we think we have it to the point where we're ready to let other people join. And the special thing about it is that we go through the entire Bible in one year, but we, we do it from the spiritual standpoint. We focus on the spiritual realm, not on the terrestrial realm. Because if you aren't looking into the supernatural world, you're missing at least 80% of what's going on in the Bible. And that's why a lot of people don't get why God does what he does, what his will is. Because you're looking at it from the point of view that this is our story. It's not our story, it's God's story. The other thing we do is we read this book, the Bible, as if we've never read it before. We get rid of all of our preconceived notions of what you were taught about God, what your opinions, your prejudices about whatever, and we just read it like we're reading it for the first time and we read it in chronological order because the, the way, the way that our, the books of the Bible are, are laid out in our canon is not in chronological order. Like the Book of Job, for example, is in the middle of the Old Testament, but it actually occurs during the Genesis narrative. It will be covering that during the Genesis series.

[David Lee Corbo]

Are you, Ed, are you starting over fresh? Because you said you get to the point where you're willing to. Okay, you are starting fresh, obviously, I might join you because.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, yeah, we do it every year. We start, for, we go, we go from, from February to January. So actually this Sunday, I'm doing the last one with my current group. We're wrapping up Revelation actually this coming Sunday. And then we're going to start all over again in February. And that's when everyone can come aboard. February 16th.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm totally joining. I'm totally joining because I've been looking for a good Bible study. There was a time where, like, I wanted to try, but I don't know what I'm doing. You know what I mean? So I'm like, I want to be with a group. I'd rather have somebody else read it and then we can kind of go over it together. So that's, that's great. I'm, I'm 100 going to be there. I've been thinking about this for, for a couple of weeks now, your, your Bible study, and it's good to know that you're starting February.

[Top Lobster]

You started.

[Ed Mabry]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[Top Lobster]

No, David had like a little Bible series on Nephilim Death Squad. He got maybe two episodes in. He struggled with a lot of the words, if they were more than like seven letters.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, it was really that anything under six letters. Under six letters is okay. Six letters. I kind of can get it sometimes. Seven letters is simply no hope. And it turns out a lot of seven and above letters in the Bible.

[Ed Mabry]

There are those. And so, so in addition to. So the way the Bible study is laid out, it's an hour, one half hour. It's just me doing an overview of, of the subject matter, then the next half hour or more if we go that way. But I want to try to cap it at. If people can leave after the next half hour. But that's, that's more of discussion Q A. You have questions, you want to talk about some things. Some things weren't clear. We go through that. And if it goes longer, it goes longer. But, you know, very cool. It's that hour.

[David Lee Corbo]

And the first one is the six. You said February 16, 16?

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, yeah, the third. Yeah, I think that's the third Sunday and it's at 10:00am Pacific Time. So make sure you're. You know, I know a lot of people around the country. That's the earliest I actually want to do it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Wait, what time is it?

[Ed Mabry]

So that'll be. So it'll.

[David Lee Corbo]

So what you said 10pm right now? 10am 10am yeah. That's not bad. Yeah, I could do that. That's great. That's great. I'm really looking forward to that. I'm excited.

[Ed Mabry]

You can access to the tools that we have some resources that have everything laid out so you can read through it. And you. There are different levels if you just want to read everything. You can read the whole Bible or you can read the highlights. And there's also video highlights and there's. And there's Summaries. So if you just want to, if you want to take just like the easiest path, if you don't have a lot of time, you can just read the summary, the, the, the, the subject summaries and the videos and you're good. If you want to dive in and go first by first, you can do that too. And that's all laid out on the first page. So once you sign up for it, you get access to that tool, those resources. And then, you know, once a month we, I give, I give you my overview and summary. We talk it through and then we go into the next month and we do it. And every year new, I get new insights from, from God about stuff. And so it's always going to be new. So I would suggest just keep. It's still different every year and people have told me that it's changed their lives.

[David Lee Corbo]

I hope all the dangerous retards in the audience. Look, man, it would be really cool to, to go and be a part of this together. Xerox. Thank you for the one dog donation. I thought this was timeline cleanse. Who are these other guys? No, not timeline cleanse. Dramatically different show. But yeah, I hope that I. Ideally I would love to. To show up and bring a bunch of the gang with me. So hopefully we could do that. I'll be subbing to the Patreon and looking forward to that. Man, you guys are here.

[Top Lobster]

If you're here right now, this is 10:30am Your time, right?

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

So you can make it.

[Ed Mabry]

It'll be the same time on again on every third Sunday. And you get weekly notes so you get a bunch of stuff so you'll, you'll be pretty, you'll be very prepared for what's going on. And so we. I know, I know it's a lot to get through the Bible and thank you. I know. I don't know. It's not to get to the Bible in one year. So obviously we're not going to. We can't get into every nook and cranny. But you can through that through the resource. But I'm just, I'm giving overview of the. Of the big points that are going to really help you understand what God's story is and what he wants for from us. And that's the huge thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

I love that. That's great, man. I'm really excited. I'm looking forward to that. So, all right, let's get into. Where are we going today, Ed?

[Ed Mabry]

We are, we're. We're nearing the end. We're Almost at the end, but we're at the good stuff. We are, you know, all the bad stuff out of the way, the judgments and, and hell and everything. And so last time we talked about what Heaven, the myths about heaven, slash New Jerusalem and what, you know, what, what they, what it is, what it isn't, what we're going to be, some of the stuff we're going to be doing there. And now we are actually going to go into chapter 21 of Revelation and we're going to look at the physical description of the New Jerusalem and, and why it's laid out the way it is. And, and we'll see if we have time to get into some of the stuff we'll be doing while we're there. And my, my wild theory, we don't get it this time, we'll get it next week. Which I'm right. I'm okay with that because I want to keep stressing this out. I don't want this to end.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, you know, we were talking before the show. There's other stuff on the horizon that we could be doing, but, you know, this is just one of my favorite things that we, we put out to the world. And so also not looking forward to it ending, but still looking forward to the information. So let's go.

[Ed Mabry]

So if you want to pull up, I don't know, top. If you want to pull it up or I can. I can go to Bible Gateway because I didn't have it up.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, I got it up.

[Ed Mabry]

Okay. Okay, cool. All right. So I'm just, I'm probably just gonna, instead of reading it all, I'm gonna read a chunk of it, then kind of, then kind of talk about what's going on here. I think it might be the best way instead of just giving a big reading download. Okay. And I saw. This is chapter 21. So this is chronologically in, in this. In the rep. In this point of Revelation. This is the Great White Throne Judgment, where all the people who rejected God's provision have, have been, you know, judged. And they're separate. They're eternally separated. We talked about that a couple episodes ago. So here we go. And I saw a new heaven and a new Earth. For the first heaven and the first earth are passed away, and there was no more sea. And I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, behold, the tabernacle of God is with men. And he will dwell with them. And he. And they shall be his people. And God himself shall be with them and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears in their eyes. There should be no more death, sorrow, or crying. Neither shall there be any more pain. For the former things are passed away. And he has sat on the throne, said, behold, I make all things new. And he said to me, right, these words are true and faithful. And he said to me, is done. I'm the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end. I will give it to them who's at thirst fountains of water freely. Let's just talk about that. If you want to scroll back up. So he sees a new heaven and a new Earth. So that means that the, the old again, the old heaven, old Earth passed away. We saw at the beginning of the. The Great White Throne judgment, it said that when God began his final judgment, he said that, you know, the earth and heavens, before the face of God, they fled away and there was no room left with it. So that means that this Earth, that we're on the heavens in this. And in this time, in this case, the heavens don't mean the spiritual realm, it means the sky and space, if you believe in space. I'm not going to get to the flatter stuff here. I'm gonna. There'll be another flat earth reference that I'm gonna make again later. Again, I'm ambivalent about flat earth, but if you believe in it, cool. If you don't, it's fine. But this earth, this realm is going to pass away. We also see in the book of Peter, I think in Second Peter, Peter talks about how, you know, the. A fire is going to consume everything. Everything is going to melt away. All the elements are going to melt away. So everything is going to be gone. This is controversial for some reason. I don't understand why people have a problem with it. But there are some people who you will see who are Christians, who will debate whether or not this is the earth and heavens being destroyed or if they're just replenished.

[David Lee Corbo]

Because it's interesting that they say there's no more C. I. I wonder what your thoughts on that, Ed. Is that like.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, I'm gonna get to that in just a sec. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna catch up to you, Dave. So they're they. Because they, because their verses that heaven and earth will never pass away. Well, what that means is the heavens and the earth, you have to look at it in the sense of, of what God said in Genesis 1:1 in the beginning. God created the heavens and the earth. What he said by that, he doesn't. That doesn't just mean the physical planet or plane or whatever. We live on Earth. The word erat means material realm. The heavens is a spiritual realm. Earth are the rots. It's a material realm. When. So when in that sense, when he says the heavens and earth will never pass away, that means there will, there will always be a, A forever. There will always be a spiritual and physical realm, not necessarily this particular land that we're on. So yeah, it's going to go away and there's a reason and we're going to see that when we get to some other verses, we're going to see that it's going to be absolutely necessary there to be a new Earth. So getting to what you're saying, David, about there's no more sea, that means there's going to be no more oceans. There'll still be water. Maybe we saw a few verses down that there's going to be fountains of water. So I think there'll still be rivers and lakes and things like that, but there won't be any more sea. Why? Well, on the original Earth that we'll be. That we're talking. We'll be talking about in the Genesis series I'm doing, there weren't any oceans. There was no Pacific or Atlantic oceans.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, that's crazy. My, my mind was kind of going there when it's talking about the Earth being formless.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, well, that's part of it. But when he, when he recreated it, when he, when Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, there weren't any. There were, there were no oceans. There weren't oceans until after the flood. Wow. Yeah, there weren't. So that means there was a huge amount of land that people could, that human beings could occupy. So obviously we have a. Considerably less on our current Earth. But. And actually, Lucas, you're right, there is a reason why the oceans are considered evil because that is where certain spiritual entities who, who fell were imprisoned. They're imprisoned in the sea. The sea is always.

[Top Lobster]

With the UFOs coming out of the ocean.

[David Lee Corbo]

This kind of isn't Leviathan.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, Leviathan. Yeah, yeah. Leviathan is imprisoned in the sea. We're going to talk about Leviathan in. When we get to Genesis chapter one, verse two, because there's some interesting stuff there that unless you know the. Understand the Hebrew and some Ugaritic references, there's actually, there's actually an image there in Genesis chapter one, verse two of God slaying. A, a water dragon, the Leviathan or tm.

[Top Lobster]

I did not know that. Wait. And the earth was formed without void and darkness upon the face of the deep.

[Ed Mabry]

The word deep is the word to ohm.

[Top Lobster]

Get the hell out of here.

[Ed Mabry]

And that tion can actually be. If you go to the Ugaritic text, it's, it's the word Tiamat. Tiamat was a seven headed dragon in, in, in ancient, in ancient Eucharitic legends. So I'm, that's a whole other thing that we'll, I'll save for the Genesis series. We'll talk about it maybe in a few weeks. But he's, he's. It says the spirit of God was hovering over the waters. The water. The word waters is the word miasma which means chaos. So waters, seas represents chaos. So there was some type of rebellion early on. I'm getting way into, deep into the Genesis. There was some type of rebellion early on that I'll detail my Genesis series. And this chaos dragon, this Leviathan, this Tiamat was defeated and the spirit of God is standing over him in a position of, of beating him. Like God just kicked this dragon's ass and now he has to recreate the Earth. So enough of Genesis, let's get back to revelation.

[Top Lobster]

No, but I was going to say when, when they refer to the ocean, they refer to it in the feminine. And the feminine is usually correlated with chaos, whereas the masculine would be correlated with order. So. Makes sense.

[Ed Mabry]

Exactly. So there's no more c. And the reason. And again that's because there doesn't. There's no need for that. There's no more chaos and there's no more need to use that to imprison any fallen entities because there won't be any. And what that also means again is that this new Earth will, will have a ton more land space now our current Earth. Yeah, go ahead.

[Top Lobster]

So like no more salt water because there's really no reason for brackish water.

[Ed Mabry]

Right? It's like, no, it doesn't do any good for anyone. You can't drink it. It's, you know, if you drink it you're going to throw up or, or you're going to go off poop out the other end perhaps.

[David Lee Corbo]

I gotta say top, that was like a really good point by the way. The whole like, you know, so these things are imprisoned under the Oceans and, and top is like, yeah, that's where the UFOs are coming out of. Right. It's like is that possible to like.

[Top Lobster]

Now let's again we're gonna. You got one verse in, barely. Is it possible that the reason the water would need to be brackish or like salt water? Would that maybe because, like, water would be some kind of a conduit that, I mean, doesn't like, like, don't spiritual entities use water in some sort of way? But if, I wonder if it's like, if it has saline and I mean, if it has salt in it, would that change the composition of it in order to trap something or to mess this up?

[Ed Mabry]

Salt water is considered dead water. Living water is fresh water. What do you have in. Over in. In Israel right now that was, you know, even the Dead Sea during the time of Jesus, although, I mean, during the time of the patriarchs, up until now you have the Dead Sea. Why does it call it that? Because it's, it's. The more salt, the less life that can be there. Interestingly, the Dead Sea is starting to become. Starting to become less salvinated. And you, you're starting to see fish in there. And that's actually a prophecy that in the end times the Dead Sea will actually start to come to life. That's a whole other thing. But there are some videos. You can go to YouTube and you'll find this. It's a lady who does a really good job of showing that, you know, in certain areas of the Dead Sea, fish are coming back. So.

[David Lee Corbo]

Sorry, look, I know this is going to be totally schizo, but, yeah, there is like an association with running water, fresh running water and, and portals. And I think it's worth noting that, like, within ceremony, when you're, when you're a ritual, when you're calling on some demonic entity, you entrap them with what, salt? Yeah, that's how you do it. You, you provide or you prevent them from crossing barriers, crossing portals. You put it in a doorway to keep it from entering through that portal. If they're trapped beneath an entire body of salt water, maybe there is like an alchemical sort of a reason why.

[Ed Mabry]

Salt is significantly in our purely physical realm. Salt, sodium is. Is it. You know, it's their electrolytes. They conduct electricity. You know, salt, potassium. You know, we call them electrolytes for a reason. I mean, that's because they, they help in our, in the, you know, our bodies are electric and having the right amount of electrolytes help those, those functions. Like when you, when your muscles contract, obviously there's electricity going through that. And so. And if you don't have enough electrolytes, you know, you're going to get cramps because your muscles are. Can't function correctly. So salt is an inverter light. It conducts a form of electric power. So that could be part of it as well. What did you call retained salt of the earth?

[Top Lobster]

Right. Like when I back in the day when I burned down David's ancestors homestead, I salted the land after. So they can't grow anything.

[David Lee Corbo]

So nothing can grow.

[Ed Mabry]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's interesting. That's interesting. There feels like there's something there. And unfortunately between Top and I that.

[Top Lobster]

We could use Gatorade interchangeably with holy water. Is that what you're saying?

[Ed Mabry]

We could try. You'll push the demon's thirst. Oh, and if they use that. What's in there? What's that? That thing that, that Red Die 5. That was just banned. Maybe that's. Maybe that'll like, you know, that probably is people.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't know if it kills spirits. Definitely kills people.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Extra.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah. So. So, yeah, so there's no more c. So in addition to there not being a place to imprison these entities because there's no need for it to imprison them again, it also means gonna be a massive amount of land. And I mean even today, even, you know, in our current Earth, there's massive amounts of land. You know, that's why overpopulation, those. That's such a crock. I mean, you know, but I mean imagine if, if we had. If the oceans weren't here right now, imagine how much land we'd have. But now this new earth is going to be bigger. And I'm. I'll show why in a few verses. But the new earth is going to be bigger than the old earth. It has to be. And so there's going to be a ton, a ton of room. So you. We don't have to worry in the, in the new Earth about, you know, overcrowding.

[David Lee Corbo]

That sounds nice. So you mean to tell me there's not going to be any. There's no cities in, in Newark? There's no Newark, New Jersey or, or anything like that. That's. I'm really looking forward to that.

[Ed Mabry]

I don't think. I think there's going to be. Again, I don't know. This, this is total speculation. I think the new Jerusalem will be the only organized city. I think every. The rest is going to be the way God originally intended for us. And we'll have. There'll be homes there. You can build your. A domicile, but I don't think we'll be organized into these Cities like, you know, I live near San Francisco. You know, I. My family's down in la. It's not going to be. I don't think it's going to be concentrated like that because nothing good ever happens in cities. You look in the Bible, aside from the New Jerusalem, cities are always bad. I mean, when you get too many people together in one space, you know, because we. I don't think we're ever meant to be concentrated like that. I think we were meant to have a large plot of land that we call our own, that we can make our own and use our own uniqueness and you can visit other people's lands. But I don't think we're ever meant to be crowded into these, like, you know, tiny areas, certainly not stacked on.

[David Lee Corbo]

Top of each other.

[Top Lobster]

You know, we were talking about. I don't know if it was us. Were we talking about Adam and his commission that God said, now go and be fruitful, multiply and like, basically blanket the Earth. So if human beings are this, like, source of weird source of electricity and spirituality or whatever the hell we are, and we're like all around the Earth coding it, think about like this kind of weird grid, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

No, I prefer all across the Earth.

[Top Lobster]

All across. Okay, whatever we want to say.

[Ed Mabry]

Yes.

[David Lee Corbo]

Not like this, but like this, like a blanket.

[Top Lobster]

Either way, we can't get off of it. Like, what happens when you concentrate too much in one area and that's like glowing blue or. Or there's not in any area. Like you'll get an area like a desert, which are usually haunted, you know. Yeah, there's nothing there. There's no electricity, no spark of God. So it's like, yeah, it would make sense that we're supposed to spread out equally among the Earth and kind of do our thing.

[Ed Mabry]

Yes, he commanded Adam and Eve and you know, then that's what he. That's what he commanded after Babel. I mean, after Noah, he said, go out. And they didn't do it. They concentrated in Babel. And obviously that. That made God angry enough to say, okay, I'm gonna have to confuse your languages because you're not going to do it on your own. So if you have to make it so that you don' Next to you. So you have to spread out and with the people who. Whose language you do understand, because we naturally, we want to congregate and God wants us to spread out. And so any. So all right, now we get to verse two, and you saw the newsroom coming. Coming down out of heaven, prepared us as a bride to work for her husband. So obviously John is, is talking about the beauty of the city. We're going to see it described a few verses down. But what's interesting is that it never, my old mentor Chuck Missler would say, would emphasize that it says that New Jerusalem's coming down from heaven, but it never says it lands. So he speculates that the New Jerusalem might be a floating city. Interesting. I, I, I don't think he's correct. He could be, but I don't think he's correct on that because when we get down to the description a little later, you're going to see it has foundations. And I don't think there's a point in having a foundation stone for a city if it's floating in the air. But I could be wrong too, and Chuck could be right, and maybe it is floating in the air. But that'll be interesting if it is. But yeah, my opinion is that it comes down and actually lands on the new Earth. But if it float, if it's floating, that just adds a lot of, you know, different color to, to what it's going to be like.

[Top Lobster]

It would, it would provide a strange veracity to the inner earth theory or hollow earth theory. If, like, you've got a new Jerusalem that just kind of goes over or around. It would make sense for it being much larger if it had to go around or over because it's got to cover that surface area. But then what happens to the bottom part? Just, it's just there.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, I, that, that's what I, that's where I struggle with it being a floating city. Because again, the foundations are meant to be, again, to anchor something to the ground. So, well, it's not, it's not a big deal, but it's just something that, you know, if someone has a different opinion, I'm cool.

[Top Lobster]

But it definitely goes over, I think.

[Ed Mabry]

Yes.

[Top Lobster]

My question is how much space is in between? You know, like, if this is over, like that part that the original Earth then stays, it stays there round or flat or whatever it is. And this thing is on it. Either flat on it or there's space. Because if there's space, that, that would imply you could do something there. Like you could be on there still. I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't think you'd want to live there. You'd be void of sunlight.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah. And you'd be like, if this thing ever gonna fall on me? But yeah, I don't think so. It's an intriguing thought, but I think it's going to be on ph anchored to the earth. And then so, so three and so first three basically says that God will be with men. This gets back to what I talked about last time. And the whole purpose of the eternity is that it's going to be Eden again. What was Eden like? Eden was God dwelling with man. That's what God will get, what he wants. What he wanted in the beginning was to dwell with man. He told Adam and Eve, you know, during the day, rule the earth, you know, spread out, you know, command everything. You're in my image, you know, you bear my image. Creation will obey you. Then in the cool of the day, let's walk and talk, let's hang out. Tell me your stories. That's what God has always wanted and now he's getting it until the tabernacle of God. And the tabernacle doesn't necessarily. Yeah, exactly, yeah, we're salt of the earth. The tabernacle doesn't, doesn't necessarily mean a physical building. Although the new Jerusalem will be the quote unquote tabernacle. But to tabernacle with someone just means you're going to dwell with them. Like if you have a house guest, your house guest is tabernacling with you. He's coming in and he's hanging out with you. And so God will individually hang out with us because he's omnipresent. That's how he can talk to all of us at the same time. He's. I think God is, is, is with us right now, listening to what we're saying. And he's also answering, listening to someone's prayers in Sri Lanka. And he's also, you know, healing someone in, you know, somewhere in, in, in wherever in Romania or whatever. So he's omnipresence. That means that we will, he will tabernacle with us. We'll, we'll be hanging out with him. The next verse says that he will wipe all the tears from our eyes. And we talked about this last time. Why would there be tears? There'll be no more death, obviously. There'll be no more sorrow or crying. Neither be any more pain for all the former things that passed away. And so again it says. So we can move on to verse five. He says, behold, I make all things new and write these words of truth and faithful. And I'm the alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. And I will give all of them who at thirst a fountains fountain of the water of life. And I was wrong. He didn't say the wiping away that. Yeah, you got it up. Wipe away all the tears from your eyes. Why would there be tears? We talked about this last time. I think there's two reasons. One, I think there's going to be tears for the people who we love who aren't going to be there. Right. But I think, but that's. I think those tears are going to be wiped away and comforted immediately. And I. After death is going to be no more sorrow. So he's going to wipe away your tears, meaning he is going to comfort you and just let you know that this is, this is just. It's what it is. You're sad that your loved ones may be friends, maybe family. I mean, I have family who have passed away who. I know they weren't believers, and that makes me sad now. It's going to be even sadder when I know that they're not going to be there. I have friends now who I. I won't say I've given up on them, but. And I still work on. But I know that they have made it up in their mind that, you know, I'm just not going to, to be a part of this. I'm not going to be a part of Christianity. And it's gonna, it's gonna be sad for.

[Top Lobster]

Initially, let me ask. So this is, this is kind of crazy. And it's outside of the thought of like, traditional Christian thought, but I was talking with my parents about this idea. Like, we were looking at the Hebrew translation of the word eternity. And that word said the definition of it was something to the effect of like an indescribable amount of time or like an undeterminable. Like it's just so vast that we don't even know how to measure it. And so I was thinking about that, and when it says, like, you know, you'll be in. You'll be in heaven for eternity with God, if you're a believer, that implies that other. That other people would be in hell or show or not show up, but, you know, another place that is.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

For an eternity. For an eternity. But that's like, it just means it's an indeterminable amount of time. But it is an amount of time.

[Ed Mabry]

So it is. So it's. It's not. And this is really tough for us because physical time, which, you know, I, I talked about him in, in the, the revelation. I'm sorry. In the Genesis 1 that's out for my Patreons now and it'll be dropping on, on my free feeds next week. We talk about what Time is, there's physical time and that's the time we are bound by and where we can't move back and forth. It only goes in one direction and we're bound by it. Now time is a measurement of a sequence of events. So will there be time in eternity? Well there has to be because things are going to happen after the other. But I think there's going to be. We're going to experience time in a different way. And again, it's tough to describe. The best way I could describe it of eternity is a constant present. We're, we're always in the present. We're not saying hey, you know what I'm going to do next week? No, you're already doing it. It's like a story that was when we went over Genesis, excuse me, Revelation chapter 12. And because I think that's a, a kind of a insight into how God sees time or experiences time. And because you have the story of the woman clothing the sun with the moon under a feed the 12 stars. She's giving birth the to a man child who's caught up to heaven. Another dragon trying to devour the child at the same time and he's. His tail is drawing a third of the stars. Earth, all you know the woman is Israel. The man child who she's pregnant with and giving birth to is Jesus. The dragon is obviously Satan. But it's all happening at once. And that's like 5, 000 years of history of this all happening at once. Israel, Jesus coming, ascending to heaven, dragon trying to devour him or stop Jesus's return. The stars being cast down from heaven. That's all it's all, it's a sequence of events but it's. But God is seeing it all at the same time. It's the way we see a story. We talked about it before you look at, think about your favorite movie. You can see the sequence of it, but you see it all at the same time. So that's the closest equivalent. It's a clumsy equivalent because it's really. We can't wrap our minds around it. But that's the closest equivalent I can give you to what eternity is going to be like. It's going to be happening, happened and is happen and will happen at the same time. It's really weird. But again we're going to be existing in such a higher dimensional plane, it can't make sense to us now in our three, our four dimensional world. But if, when we're, if we're in 11 dimensions, I think it's then it can theoretically make more sense.

[Top Lobster]

And not, not to. I don't want to get too caught up on this, but I was kind of like arguing the point with my parents more about the people that do go to this other place.

[Ed Mabry]

Okay.

[Top Lobster]

And they're there for an eternity. I was like, if it's an indescribable, indescribable amount of time, it's an amount of time. Are they. So if it's an amount of time, it's an amount of time that means that it ends, that it stops at some point. Like, is there another. You know, is there another time for them to then be able to, like, try again? That, that's like, it's a crazy idea. But if, if that's what that word means, and that means that it does imply that there would be an amount of time for these people who, who were lost at some point. Maybe that's why he wipes the tears from your eyes. Like, hey, they get a second shot. Don't worry about it. I don't have no idea.

[David Lee Corbo]

The short answer is if the way that they like. So, and it's going to be a really sloppy analogy, but it seems like that's, it's the best that we could do in this case because we're three dimensional entities. But like in Dragon Ball Z, there's a hyperbolic time chamber, and it's just a place where you go where time happens differently. So the people on the outside experience these folks being gone in this chamber for an hour, but the people that are inside the chamber are gone for years. And so, you know, I just wonder if it's one of those things where it's like, if you are relegated to the time that we're in now and you go to a place of suffering, well, then you experience time in this way. But we might be sitting on the outside. This is like the idea of God wiping away your tears. We might be looking at that and being like, well, they're going to be out any second now, so it's not that bad. But they are experiencing torture. Yeah. They're experiencing thousands of years of basically distance from God and left to come to terms with the fact that they belong there, that they have, you know, sinned and they haven't, you know, seeked out redemption. Yeah, Mr. Popo's torture chamber. That's a much better way of describing it. So I just wonder if maybe that that's what the nature of it is. Like, let's say we get whisked out and we are now extra dimensional entities, but they are not. So they're still here in this drudgery, going through this suffering, feeling alone. But in the grand scheme of things, they're already there and they're already, they're also simultaneously suffering. You know what I mean? Like time would be really confusing.

[Ed Mabry]

Maybe it's the other way around. Maybe that's the mercy. Maybe the mercy is that we experience 10,000 years and for them it's only like a day. So they're only suffering for a day while we're enjoying pleasure for and you know, joy for 10,000 years. I don't know. The short answer is I don't know. And the Bible isn't clear on it. There are, there are theories and when I get to my crazy theory next week maybe, because I have a thought again, and when I, and I want to preface this before next week, this is not based, this is very, very likely based on the Bible. This is just, it's gonna be my conjecture. So don't say you blasphemer. No, I'm not. I just.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, oftentimes, Ed, your conjecture is, is a lot of fun and it's.

[Top Lobster]

We're allowed to think here, you know.

[Ed Mabry]

You'Re allowed to think. I welcome it. And that's, and that's the kind of stuff that you'll probably get on the Patreon when I, I'll feel more free to give like my really wacky theories, but I want to kind of stick to, you know, verse by verse stuff on the free feed. But I'll get to my, you know, other stuff commentary on, on the Patreon that, that might even get me banned off of YouTube because I already have to strike. I already have two strikes against me.

[David Lee Corbo]

I just want to remind everybody that when the six for stupid stuff, man.

[Ed Mabry]

I got a strike because I, the first time I got a strike. What are both the same reason I got us right, Because I very lightly compared the COVID injections to the mark of the beast. Because what I, I didn't say they were, they were nothing market. But what I said was, you know, my theory is that it's going to change your, that the market, the beast will change your DNA. And what I basically said is that the injections show that we have the technology already to affect your DNA. And when I said that, and they said that's medical misinformation and I got a strike and I was bad.

[Top Lobster]

I'm going to argue with you, Ed. How dare you go against science right now? Because it's clear that that's misinformation. And we're here and I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

If you know this, Ed, but going against, going against Fauci.

[Ed Mabry]

I am, I, I am anti. Yeah, I went anti science. I mean, I, you know, you got to believe the science. Trust the science. You know, just believe. Just believe.

[Top Lobster]

Yes, at Nephilim Death Squad, we obey, submit and comply to the science. So I want the YouTube sensors to know that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Shout out to Pfizer and Moderna, by the way, some of my favorite companies.

[Ed Mabry]

I've learned my lesson. I will never, ever question the science again. The science is right.

[David Lee Corbo]

Please have mercy on us. But before we go on, I just want to remind everybody that's listening now, because it's grown since the beginning of the show. I'm going to be in this bible study, so. Patreon.com faithby Reason I highly recommend to the dangerous listening sign up and then we can hang out and we can do Bible studies together on the 16th of February. I'm looking really forward to that.

[Top Lobster]

It is growing. Okay, very nice, Very nice.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, it's going to me. Yeah, it's. This is the first time I've talked about it on this show, but I think just people who were expecting it. I mentioned briefly that I was going to do one and folks have already come aboard and I've done. I've just, I did a quick video on my YouTube channel for it and on my faithorason.net but yeah, come aboard. I mean, I'd love to have you. And yeah, you're going to get some good information. So. Okay, where do we go? So. Oh, great. So, yeah, so behold, I make all things new. And so this is just John, what you're going to see throughout this is the apostle John is just overwhelmed. So he keeps repeating himself, which, which I understand. He's a teacher like me. And we tend to repeat ourselves and we want, we really want you to understand it. So John is just overwhelmed. So let's go to verse seven. Yeah. He overcomes will inherit all things. I will be his God, he will be my son. A good, you know, beautiful overview statement. But the fearful, unbelieving Abomina, whoremongers, sorcerers, adulterers and lawyers would have their place in this. In the second death, the lake of fire. So he's saying there's no, there's not going to be any evil there. Then here's, this is interesting, verse nine. There came to me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials or bowls of the seven last Place the bowls of wrath and talked to me, saying, come here and I will show you the bride, the lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain and showed me the great city, the holy Jerusalem. Again, descending from the. From God. So I want to talk about these two verses before we get to the description. So one of the. First of all, we know that again, there's not going to be any evil in. In new Jerusalem. Verse 8 makes that pretty clear. Verse 9, the angel who talks to John happens to be one of the angels that poured out the bowls of. One of the bowls of wrath that where God judged all the evil in the world. Why would this. Why would God choose this angel to talk to John? I think it's my opinion is that he's trying to say that the same God who judges is also the same God who rewards, the same God who has no tolerance for evil. It's also the same God who's going to bring you eternal joy. Because people have this idea that, you know, God, the God, the Father, Jehovah, Yahweh is like the vengeful one and Jesus is the sweet, nice guy. And honestly, it's just more the other way around. I think that the God of the Bible, the. The Father God is the. Is more tolerant than Jesus. If you read the way Jesus behaved in the Gospels, he was. He was impatient. He called his disciples stupid. He said, you guys are slow of learning. How long am I going to be with you? You idiots don't get it. Jesus was hardcore. He. He's the one who beat people out of the temple when they were the money changers. He. He made a whip. He went in here and just kicked the crap out of them and overturned their tables. That's. We had, you know, the idea we have of Jesus of this, you know, hippie and. And with long hair and white robes, saying, peace and love, brother. No, that's not who Jesus really was. Jesus was.

[Top Lobster]

Does it say that he made the whip?

[Ed Mabry]

Yes, he. He took court. It says, okay, literally, he took rope and tied knots into it.

[Top Lobster]

That's a lot different than finding one and then being like, hold on a second.

[Ed Mabry]

He said, I'm gonna make sure that I got the whipping stick.

[David Lee Corbo]

So in my mind, it's like Jesus tying knots in a rope. Like, muttering, I'm coming, baby, I'm coming. Go ahead, let me see. You keep that energy. When I show up like that. That's very. Okay. Okay.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah. So that's a whole other thing. Like, I think I might do a Jesus study after Genesis. We'll see what happens. He said, dad has mercy me. I. You got five minutes of mercy with a rope. You got to finish tying this rope to get the money changed out. The temple.

[David Lee Corbo]

Get your Jesus [e-mail].

[Ed Mabry]

Dude, you got to do it. Oh, my go.

[David Lee Corbo]

Coming soon, guys.

[Ed Mabry]

Coming soon. All right, so. All right, so he takes. So. So this angel, the angel at the wrath of the same was going to show him the. The new Jerusalem coming down out of heaven. So let's go to verse 11. They said, he having the glory of God, her light was like. Was like stone most precious, even like a Jasper stone, clear as crystal. And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and the gates, at the gates twelve angels. And written thereon were the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel. So it has twelve gates, and each gate has one of the tribes of Israel written on it. Three gates on the east, north, south and west. And on the wall of the city. And on the wall of the city had 12 foundations. And on them were the 12 apostles of the Lamb. And he talked to me. And he who talked to me had a golden reed measure the city. And the gates are up, and the walls are up. So he's measuring the city. And the city lies four square, and the length is as tall as it is as long as it is high. And he measures the city with a read 12, 000 furlongs furlong. Excuse me. The length and the breadth and the height are all equal. And he measures the wall 344 cubits according to the measure of a man, and that is of. Of an. Of an angel, of a messenger. And the building of the wall was of Jasper. The city was a pure gold, like to clear glass. The foundations of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. I'm going to mess up some of these pronunciations. Some of them we took me. Oh, yeah. The foundation was Jasper. The second was sapphire, the third chalcedony, the fourth emerald, the fifth sardonyx, the sixth sardis, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth barrel, the ninth of topaz. Screw that.

[David Lee Corbo]

The 11th thing about this, we. We talked to a guy named Justin Brown of the Promethean Lens podcast. And. And he talks about this coat of many colors that Joseph had, and he makes an argument, a pretty compelling one, that it was actually the priestly robes stripped off the nakash in the garden. And. And you know, that that robe seemingly was adorned with, you know, all of These various gemstones itself. And I just wonder if there's a. There's something that we don't understand because I do kind of think that there's room for like, alchemy. Like, there is room to sort of manipulate the. The foundational elements of this realm that we live in. And I think that that is probably what gives abilities to some of these more magical artifacts throughout history. Right? Like the idea of the Ark of the Covenant, like, there's, there's something in its makeup, the way that it was created that allows it to. To do these things. And I just find it interesting that, you know, whenever the Bible mentions something now, I'm like, that's on purpose, right? When the Bible goes like, Esau was hairy, I'm like, well, he must have been pretty hairy then for the Bible to be like, no dog. Like, he was hairy like garbage.

[Ed Mabry]

I mean, that's. This dude was like. Or he was like. He was like Bigfoot. I've heard some weird theories that he was. That what was Esau and Nephilim.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right, Right. And so when you have the Bible going out of its way to list all of these various gemstones that the foundations of this city are made of, I'm like, maybe that is the propulsion mechanism for the city or something like, you know what I mean? Like, that gives it the ability to fly. I don't think that, like, God has the ability to do anything in this realm, but I think he uses the, the elements of the thing that he created. You know, it, it's. It's. And so, you know, maybe that's the method by which this thing is. Is given levity.

[Ed Mabry]

Well, let's keep in mind something that, that magic, so called magic exists. How do we know this? And because in the Book of Enoch, we see that the fallen angels, fallen Elohim, they taught people enchantments, they taught them magic, which means it really is. Now, we're not supposed to use it in, in the way that these, that the fallen angels want us to, but there is some type. There is. Again, it's, it's. It's difficult to talk about without. I don't want to sound like pagan and, and all that kind of stuff, but, you know, there is something to it like crystals and things. Some of these crystals I have, like next to my bed right now. I have certain of these crystals, and I have them there not because I'm praying to them, but because some of them absorb electromagnetic, negative electromagnetic radiation. So I have it near me because I want to make sure that when I'm asleep that all the negative EMF fields that are in all of our homes are not affecting me.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right?

[Ed Mabry]

No. Am I performing a magic ritual? No, I'm just using what this, these crystals, natural ability to, you know, absorb harmful radiation just to protect myself, because that's naturally what they're, what they can do.

[David Lee Corbo]

So, yeah, I think we've lost a lot of that.

[Ed Mabry]

Like, like, I think we have.

[David Lee Corbo]

Because, and I've talked about it before, because it feels like Jesus was in very many ways, it seems like everything the same way, like mankind became corrupted in our genealogy, I think everything. And it talks about that too, right? As far as like chimeric animals and even plant life and things like that. But I think that so much, even the sciences were so corrupted that it was like we need to go back to like the basics almost. You know, and so Jesus gives us that pathway through. We no longer need all this extra augmented stuff. But I don't know if, if God creates something and, and, and they invert it, it doesn't necessarily mean that that thing is, is bad. But it just. Right now it probably is because our understanding of it is so far from the root that if we tried to use it, we would end up probably screwing ourselves over. Once again.

[Ed Mabry]

It's how you use something. Like if I take the crystal that's next to my bed and I just keep it on my nightstand to protect me, I'm not doing anything wrong. But if I take and I pray to, and try to, you know, you know, do some type and control someone's mind, well, yeah, that's different. It's what you do with it. And I think that God gave us everything on this earth. When he said, he said it was good, all of his creation was good. It, he gave it to us for us. Another idea of that is, is like herbs. He says, you know, he gave us the herbs to heal us. And you know, there, we know that there are herbs that can actually heal you, but there are also people who use some of these herbs in ritualistic stuff. You know, you, some people burn sage to do other ritual cleansing or whatever offerings, right? So you can misuse it, but that doesn't mean, just because you misuse something doesn't mean it's bad for you. I mean, a great example is, is cannabis. If you, you can abuse it, but it can also help if you, if you use it the right way, which is that, you know, so, but then, but then man will screw it up and take, you know, a poppy seed and turn it into Freaking heroin, which was never what it was intended to be. But a poppy, the poppy seed can actually relieve some pain. But if you, you know, refine it and screw with it now it's something that's going to make you an addict, which is not what God intended.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right. It's a beautiful thing where you have somebody back in the day who has an injury and then all of a sudden is granted relief from this plant. And then fast forward 20, 25 and you have Kensington Avenue in Philly where it's just a bunch of fentanyl zombies. And you go, we're probably, probably using that the wrong way now.

[Ed Mabry]

Probably. Probably top. Let's go back. It's one more verse I want to read, then I'll give you my idea of what this is all about. And that is. Okay, so we all have all the stones and then 20, 21, the 12 gates were 12 pearls. And every several gate was one pearl and the street was pure gold and it was transparent as glass. So what do we have here? We have a city that is walled. It's a walled city with 12 foundations. 12 gates. The gates have, are made of a pearl which. A single pearl. Which means that's a hell of a big ass oyster that they got this thing out of because it's made, it says it's made of a single oyster which. A single pearl. Which is interesting because pearls only come from oysters. So I don't know, maybe there's some giant oysters hanging out somewhere that got used to make the city.

[Top Lobster]

So it looks like it appears to me, I mean look, look at this thing. It's like a, a portal of some type. Like if, if this was in front of you and this kind of crazy swirl was the gate to get in, I would, I would call that a portal.

[Ed Mabry]

Interesting. I thought about it that way. That's interesting. So the size of the city. Let's talk about the size of it first before we get to the gates and the foundations. I think that's some. Something really relevatory there. So it's basically, you have all the furlongs and unless you're a horse race, someone new to horse race, you probably know how big a furlong is. Basically it, it's 15, 000 miles.

[David Lee Corbo]

Wow.

[Ed Mabry]

Geez. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Excuse me. 1500, excuse me. 1500 miles all the way across. So if you take the foundation of it, the square, the bottom is going to be a square. Definitely. It would take up over a third of the size of the United States.

[David Lee Corbo]

Wow.

[Ed Mabry]

If you go to my Revelation series on faith by reason dot net. I actually have a, in the video, I have a picture of someone who outlies how much of the space of the United States the foundation of the New Jerusalem would take up. It would take up like all the east coast all and all the way from like the east coast to roughly like Nebraska.

[David Lee Corbo]

Damn.

[Ed Mabry]

It's going to be a huge, huge city. And so it's going to be 15, 100 miles square. So all square and high. And that's one of the reasons why it, the Earth has to be bigger. Because if, let's say the Earth is a globe, it wouldn't fit because it would, it wouldn't fit on the curve. It wouldn't be flat. It'll be too big to fit on the curve even. But even if the Earth is, is, is a plane, it would be so hot, it would be beyond the breath the, the, the atmosphere. Now granted, we probably won't be breathing the same way we do in our current bodies, but again, it, it would be beyond the atmosphere of our current Earth. So this new Earth is going to have to be bigger just to accommodate this one gigantic city that's again, a little more than a third of the size of the United States. And interesting, some people say that we know that this is going to be square. It's laid out four square, which means it's going to be a square on the bottom. But it doesn't necessarily say it's a square on the top. Some people think the New Jerusalem is a pyramid because a pyramid can still be, you know, still have the same height. It just comes to a point. I find that fascinating because of what we, what we've learned about pyramids and how they are conductors of energy and how there and top, you just talk about the portal aspect of it. So pyramids have a lot of supernatural energy about them. So it could be, it might be, it could be a square. So it's either going to be a cube or a pyramid. And you know, the Bible doesn't specifically say, but I, I find it intrigued. I find the possibility of it being a pyramid very intriguing. And I put both of those images on, on my video on, on Faith by reason dot net. So let's talk about the walls and the gates and the, and the foundations. Here's the question. Why would the New Jerusalem need to have walls and gates?

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Ed Mabry]

If you look at a city back in that time, the walls were defensive. There was, they were, they were to keep out invaders. They were to keep, when the city Was attacked. The walls are what protected you. I mean, you've seen like, you know, the old, if you looked at, you know, any type of medieval media or Game of Thrones or anything like that, you saw that all these cities had, these cities had walls around to keep the invaders out. And they had gates. And the gates were where people could come and go. But the gates were always barred. They were guards at the gates. Why with the new Jerusalem, if all evil has been punished and it's somewhere else over, it's separated from God, what do you need these walls for? But let's describe the walls. The walls are made of transparent gold. Gold. If you know the pure. The gold is. The pure pure, completely pure gold is actually transparent. You can see through it. So you have a wall around the city that you can see through. What's the point of that? Why does it, why does it have those gates? Why are they made of pearls? Why are the names of the twelve tribes of Israel on them? The foundation with all those stones? And those stones are, I think they represent different types of light. Because when we talk about how God is light, it's not just bright white light. I think it's multi colored light. It's, it's, it's, there's the, the heavens, the whole spectrum. Yeah, exactly, the whole spectrum. I think that's what these stones represent is the entire spectrum of light. All light's going to be there because white technically has all. The white light has all the other lights in it. Once you go, once it becomes dimmer, as it were, then that's when you start seeing reds and blues and things like that. So. But the foundation has the twelve. The names of the twelve apostles. What does this mean? I think I'll give my overview statement, then I'll explain what I mean. I think that the city and the way it's laid out represents the story of Jehovah. It's Jehovah's story in the city form. So every time you see the city, you're going to see Jehovah's story. What do I mean by that? What's the foundation? The foundation of the apostles? The pot. What did the apostles do? They spread the word of God. The word of God is Jesus, the Logos. In the beginning was the Word, the Word with God? The Word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. So the foundation of Jehovah's story is Jesus. It's the word you have. The city is. So there are gates to the city. Why are there gates and the gates Are. It says, we'll see later. It says the gates are always open, which means you can, you can freely go in and out. So the foundation is Jesus, the word see and. And in the city is where God will dwell. You can go into the city anytime you want, but you have to be intentional. The wall is around it because you can in this transparent. So you can see into the city. You. So you can see. So everyone can see God right now. But if you want to enter into God's presence, you have to be intentional. You have to go through the gate. You can't just walk any. You can't just get to God any way you want. You can see him, but you have to get to him. You have to be intentional and go through the gate. What are the gates? The gates have the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. The twelve tribes of Israel and how salvation comes through the Jews. The God says, Paul says specifically salvation is of. Or. Or. The origin of salvation is through the Jews, the 12 tribes of Israel. That's where Jesus was a. He was a Jew. So you get to God by going through the 12 tribes of Israel. That's what the Old Testament is all about. That's how you get to God is through the Jews. However, those gates are all made of pearl. What is the significance of that? Pearls come from oysters. Oysters are not kosher. There. That represents the Gentiles. So the gates have the names of the Jews on them, the Israelites on them. But they're for all the nations because they're made up of pearl. So you can. So the foundation is Jesus. You can see what you can see through the transparency where that God is available. Everyone can see God. If you want to get to God, you have to be intentional. You have to go through the gate. The gate is the Old Testament, the prophecies about Jesus, but it's for the Gentiles. And so that's. So when you look at all of that, that is the entire story of God. God says, come to me. Everyone is invited, but you have to want it. It's based on the. It's based on my. On the word of God. Salvation is through the testimony the Testament of the Jews, but it's for all the Gentiles. So for eternity we will see the story of God in represented by the city.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's funny, that's interesting because a lot of the time lately we've been talking about this idea that the nature of reality is fractal and, and you know, so you have like these stories of Christ in the stars. But you also have the stories of Christ in, like, you know, the biology of mankind. And then that. I've become pretty comfortable with the idea that if one side is. Is all about rituals and ceremony, then maybe that's not necessarily a bad thing. Rituals and ceremony aren't a bad thing. It's just how you do things in a spiritual realm, in this physical, you know, planet that we inhabit. And so I just. It, to me, it. It's like it's all symbolism and it's all. I don't know, it's hard to explain, but like, there's a fractal nature even in that, right. Where it's like now the story is being told on a physical scale on a. On a landmass with a. With a city on it.

[Top Lobster]

It feels like you could. You can do a pilgrimage to this city and walk around the gates. Like I, you can go in if you want, but you can walk around the gates and see through these walls as if they were like a TV or projector of some kind. Like, I want to know what happened here. Like, what happened with. And it's just like a. Keep walking and you'll, you'll see this whole story. Otherwise God will have to answer this question billions and billions of times. Like.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I love that too, because it's like we, we are living in a story. We are living in. In a script. Right? And then to see the manifestation of that in a physical way, how it actually happened.

[Ed Mabry]

Right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

It's gonna be. It's an eternal memorial. It's like, you know, when you go to. When you go to Washington D.C. and you see all these statues and all these kinds. Yes, it's, it's. That's what it is like the Washington Monument, which, I mean, that's a bad example because that's an obelisk. But it's just when you, when you go to the new Jerusalem, you say, yep, this is God's story. This is what he was doing for, you know, from the beginning up till now. And he's. And he finally gets what he wants. Now in the city, it's going to be all the rooms. Like when you go to the Gospel of John, chapter 14, it says, you know, let not your heart be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions or many rooms. We're each going to have a room in the new Jerusalem. That's one of the reasons why it's so big now. We won't always live there, but that's where we'll come. We'll probably come there for. As you were saying, Raven, for ceremonial reasons, we'll probably come to the city because again, that's where. That's where God's throne is. We'll come there. We'll stay in our particular room in there. It's. And then we'll probably go back out to the rest of the earth to our. Our plot of land there or elsewhere. And that's where we're going to get into my crazy theory next week. Week. So we'll come and go as we please, and we'll have a special place for it. And I think that all. All the bricks in that walls in, in those walls, I think each one of them is going to have one of our names on it because we saw earlier in the book of. Of. In the book of Revelation, it says that. I think it was to the church at Philadelphia, or maybe starting. Forgive me, but our names are written on a stone. And I think, what, what if those stones are the stones that make up the wall of this massive city? So each one of us has our name on a stone.

[David Lee Corbo]

I like that. You know, it's. It's got a kind of a beautiful tinge to it.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, it does. So let's keep going. I think we can get through it. So. And again, in. The gate should not be shut at all by day. There should be no night there. So that's interesting. As I said, the gates won't be shut, so which gives a wire the gates. Again, it's just, it's not for defensive reasons. It's just to show that this is Jehovah's story. The gate to, to get to God is never closed at this point. Everyone's welcome. You just have to be intentional. To get, to get to him, you have to go through, through the Old Testament Jews and then also obviously the New Testament, and there should be no night there. So the question is, is there no night at all in. On the whole earth, or is there just no night in the new Jerusalem? Not sure. Either way, it's. It's. It's pretty cool if there's no night at all. Which makes. Makes sense because if God will dwell there and God is light and he. So there's no darkness in him, then there can never be any darkness. There'll never be any night. Because how do we measure night? We measure it by the sun going down and coming back or around or whatever, however you want to see it. But it says there will be no, there won't be A sun. There, there will be no more.

[David Lee Corbo]

People look at the moon as if it's actually a negative thing.

[Ed Mabry]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like, you know, you mean, number one, a never ending amount of theories about the nature of the moon and what it actually is. Some sort of artificial satellite that these things watch us from. Allegedly. But also that the light is, is different that comes off the moon. I've heard people describe it as like putrid and decaying. It's, it's like a dead light.

[Ed Mabry]

Yes, it's like, it's like a cold light.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. So it seems that there's actually like a negative connotation with that. So if that actually is a negative thing, then to have that be removed would make sense.

[Ed Mabry]

Well, and the reason that we have night is for recovery. Night tells our bodies and the bodies of animals to sleep so that we can repair. We're going to have new bodies that won't need the same kind of reparation of, of repairing of reparations. So there won't be any need for that. So there'll be no, they'll, you know, need. There'll be no sun, no moon. There won't be needed. We won't need the. Because, you know, God's going to be our light. So, you know, of course the sun's beneficial, you know, vitamin D and all the other beneficial things of the sun and, and the moon, although it has a negative connotation, it also, it, you know, controls the tides. But hey, we'll be in the oceans.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, that's a good point too.

[Ed Mabry]

And again, we won't need to have that recovery period because we'll have, we'll be in these higher dimensional bodies and.

[David Lee Corbo]

God will be the light, the moon, representing like the divine feminine, which is like, it links into Lilith. Right. They call Lilith in the Bible. It seems when they describe the night monster that they're actually talking about something akin to, to Lilith.

[Ed Mabry]

And so I'm doing an episode on that as a bonus episode of my Patreons on, on Lilith when we get to the Adam and Eve portion of Genesis. But yeah, go ahead.

[Top Lobster]

Can, can you address this? So this guy is saying we're reading the Bible, but we're not reading it as like a metaphorical translation, we're reading it. Is that what it actually says? So this guy's disagreeing. He says no night equals no dark darkness. Darkness means death. So it means eternal life.

[Ed Mabry]

It can mean, it can mean multiple. It can be more than one thing. It also, you know, night can mean, I don't, Well, I don't think night means death because there was night, there was day and night before original sin, and there was no death, no physical, mortal death before original sin.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Ed Mabry]

So you can use night as a, as a symbol of it, but, you know, we don't die at night. We. I think we replenish.

[Top Lobster]

Why would you use night as a symbol of death? When they do mention death. Death here, you know, it's like.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, I, I don't know. I'm just saying. I, I don't want to completely dismiss what, what the listener was saying, but I, I don't see. I, I don't think that you can. All you can see because sometimes night is spoken of negatively in the Bible. So I, so there may be a point there, but I, I think if that's a part, if that is a point, if that is a point of it, I think it's a minor point. I think the, the biggest point is that there'll be no need for restoration and that there will be no time where we are not in the light of God and not, not in the presence of God. God. So I mean darkness again. You know, the people who are going to be away, separated from God for eternity, they'll be in eternal darkness. So, so in that sense, you can't say darkness is a, can be a symbol of eternal. Can be a symbol of eternal death. I don't think the night necessarily means death, but I think darkness can. And since night is dark to a degree, there's. The moon is still out, so there is some light, but the people who are going to be separated are going to be in darkness with no light whatsoever. Suffer not even the light of a moon and stars.

[Top Lobster]

A quick aside in Mr. Popo's torture chamber. It's always white. It's always bright white. There is no night time. It's just vast arrays of white. The landscape is white.

[Ed Mabry]

Well, I think it's torture because sleep deprivation is torture for us right now. You know, if people, if you, if you were in, like, what was it, Guantanamo Bay, one of the things they would do is they would. Could put the people in, in these rooms that were fluorescent lights all the time. They could not sleep. And that, that messes you up because, you know, without REM sleep and deep sleep, you don't recover. So it's torture.

[David Lee Corbo]

I wonder what Mr. Popo knew. What are your secrets, Mr. Popo? Okay, all right, so.

[Ed Mabry]

And they will. It will bring the glory and honor of the nations into it. Wait, and, and I'll get back to that initial in no wise be anything that defiles or, or works abominations or makes a lie or, or. But only they that written the last book of life. Again, this is John reiterating for like the third time that nothing evil is going to be there and that only those who are believers will be in this realm. So bring the glory and honor of nations into it. Well, that means that they're going to be nations in, In. In on this new earth.

[David Lee Corbo]

Interesting that also there's still some sort of room because it talks about they're not being evil in the city and.

[Ed Mabry]

There won't be evil anywhere, but there will be nations. And so there will be people who, you know, and what nations are, are. I guess they're just going to be gatherings of people who have a singular purpose. But, but they're not going to be. I, I think this is part of the reward that certain believers are going to get that they're going to be over some. I think they're going to have that in the millennial reign. But it looks like they're also going to be people who are going to have certain authority in the. Yeah, kings of the earth. Yeah, they're going to be people who have, who have authority in the new Jerusalem, and they're going to be people who have, who, who have earned it. I'm sure, like, you know, the disciples will be among them, the. Some of the other great men and women of God and probably people we've never heard of who have done great things in the name of God. They're going to be rewarded by leading. So basically what they're going to be doing, these kings are going to be leading. They're not going to be dominating. Don't, don't think of them as the politicians and kings that we have to this day who dominate others. The definition of a leader. And I think we talked about this, maybe we talked about this one times when we had John Lenhardt on. But the definition of a leader is someone who facilitates the purpose and progress of others. A leader is not about him, him or herself. A leader is about others. So these leaders, these kings, their job is not going to be, hey, bring me Gloria. I'm such a great king, you're going to be saying, no, how can I help you grow? I've grown. I've grown. So I've grew so much, you know, when I was alive that I'm. I want to help others grow. I want to help, you know, people who, who did not get as much knowledge as I did when I was on Earth. I want to lead a group and I'm going to help them grow. So I think that's what these kings, these leaders are going to be. They're going to be nations. Maybe these nations are different levels, advanced ones who are, who only need, you know, a certain amount of teaching. And maybe there's some who are really young, just made up of really young Christians, maybe, you know, babies who were aborted, maybe people who became Christians on their deathbed who don't know very much. They're going to need a different type of leader who's going to just break everything down to them. And so that's, so that nation will just be of those. But if you're more advanced, you don't need to be in that nation. You need to be in a nation that's going to give you different types of information and different types of growth opportunities. So that's a possibility for what those, these different nations are going to be like. Again, speculation. I don't know for sure, but this is just, you know, a thought. But it could be, I could be completely wrong.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, that's a lot of what. There was a time when I, I kind of, I guess in, in a childlike outlook would have, would have assumed like oh, when you die, you suddenly know there's no more secrets. You know everything, you know, you go and, and then God's like, here you go, here's all this stuff you've been worrying about. But then even just given actual near death experiences, it's like people come back, they've gleamed some sort of information. They certainly don't have a handle on everything. And it wasn't like, you know, you don't get stories where it's like, and I knew everything, everything made sense and I, all the mysteries were unlocked. It's like, like, you know, and, and that I, I kind of appreciate that because whatever comes next is a lot longer than whatever we're doing here. So the idea that we just graduate to that and then know everything, I would very much like the learning to continue.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, we talked about this a couple weeks ago. That was one of the myths that we're just going to get this download of information, we're suddenly going to know everything. There's nothing biblical about that. In fact, I could argue that there's a part of the Bible that says the opposite. And that is Revelation, chapter 1, verse 1. The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right?

[Ed Mabry]

God, when Jesus ascended to heaven. Now before this, when he was, you know, in Eternity past, he was with God. And once he knew everything, but he voluntarily gave that up to become a human being. So the baby Jesus didn't know, you know, all the secrets of the universe. It says very clearly that he grew that. That Jesus, as he became, grew into adulthood. He grew in knowledge and grace and favor with God and men. So, I mean, that Jesus was learning stuff. God was teaching him stuff. But in his 33 years, God didn't have time to teach him everything. So when he gets to heaven, God has to reveal stuff back to him that he already knew before. So, so what that means that. So if Jesus has to go to heaven and he learned stuff from God, you think we're not gonna.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right, right.

[Top Lobster]

Man, his. The first 30 years of his life is just kind of a blank page, you know?

[Ed Mabry]

Well, the first. Yeah, the first three years he was learning, God was teaching him all this stuff. He was teaching him a bunch of stuff that he. In those last three years of his ministry, that's when he was teaching, you know, the Beatitudes and the Parables and all this kind of. He was. He was telling everyone what God had taught him to. That. To that point. But keep in mind, there was, you know, thousands, many, many thousands of years of information, plus whatever was going on before creation that he, God, had to give him back. So I think we're going to learn, and we'll have eternity to learn and grow. And I think we. We have time to get into a little bit the first half of. Of chapter 22, because that's all that also pertains to what's going on in New Jerusalem. So tough. You want to pull that up? Chapter 22. Did we get to the end of 21?

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

Okay, good. Okay. And he showed me a pure river of water, of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God. And of the la. The midst of the street. On either side of the river, there was a tree of life, which bear 12 manner of fruits that yielded her fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. Interesting. There will be no more curse but the throne of God, and the Lamb shall be in it, and his servants shall serve him. And they will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. And again, there will be no night there, no need for candle, nor neither light of the sun, for the Lord gives him light. John, reiterating again, verse six, he says to me, these things are faithful and true. The Lord God of the holy prophets and his angels showed these things to his servants. So John's wrapping, about to wrap it up. So I want to talk about these first four verses. There's a river, pure river of the water of life from the throne of God. That throne will be in the new Jerusalem. And there will be the Tree of Life. What is it? What is the Tree of Life in the river of life, therefore. Well, it says that in, in the end of verse two, that these leaves of the trees for the healing of the nations. So there's going to be healing? Why would there need to be healing? Because there's going to be. There will be damage. What kind of damage? As we grow, there's going to be mistakes. We talked about this a couple weeks ago. We're going to be sinless. We're not going to make. We're not going to make sense because sin is intentionally doing what you know is wrong. A mistake is just. Is being wrong innocently. We can make mistakes, but. And we'll heal from it because we're going to be growing and learning and as we grow and learn, there's going to be some painful aspects. So anytime you grow, there's some pain involved and. But it's going to be healed by these, by the trees of these nations. I'm sorry, excuse me, by the leaves of these trees. And they're going to heal the nations. So if my hypothesis is correct, that these nations are going to be areas where people are learning and growing well, those nations are going to be. Need to be some healing because there may be some disagreements, there may be, you know, some pain of learning and those leaves are there to heal them. And I think that might be more symbolic than physical. It may not be people rubbing leaves on us per se, but I think I. It could be literal, and I tend to default to the literal. But this could also be symbolic, allegorical of how these leaves, when you come to the New Jerusalem, you're going to get this healing of any of the pain you're going through as you grow. And the Tree of Life is going to be there to freely eat of it and that remember that Tree of Life was in the Garden of Eden. Everyone focuses on the tree of the knowledge of Good needle. But the Tree of Life is there and it also physically heals. So we're going to have physical bodies. So they're resurrection bodies. But what if we. I don't know. Maybe there's. Maybe we'll do damage. Maybe we'll fall off some and hurt our arm. I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's interesting that it goes on repairs, like, oh, there's going to be 12 fruits and that every month you're going to be able to pick these fruits. That's interesting.

[Ed Mabry]

That's, that's time you're saying.

[Top Lobster]

So there's, there's 12 fruits for. There would. Yeah, there's 12 for each of the nate of the nations. Which are the, those nations are going to be, I assume the, the tribes of Israel. Like that's like how you, how these nations would be divided, right?

[Ed Mabry]

I don't know. It could be, but it's not specific there. It could be the name, it could be more, it could be like a ton of nations. I mean it's gonna be a lot of land space and I don't know. These nations are going to be organized under a leader and as I said previously, I think these leaders are going to be the ones that are shepherding people, these groups based on, you know, their needs. So there may be more than 12, there may be hundreds, thousands of them.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, because I'm just stuck on the. And the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations and there were 12 manner of the leaves of the tree.

[Ed Mabry]

Right? Yeah, they're 12 proofs.

[Top Lobster]

Gotcha.

[Ed Mabry]

They're 12 types of fruits. Doesn't mean they're just 12 nations.

[Top Lobster]

Right, right.

[Ed Mabry]

And I think that we're still going to be in a 12 month. The way we're going to measure time in this sequence is still going to be some form of a 12 month cycle.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know, I'm not saying that this is the connection at all, but it does bring to mind this idea that like, you know, in the Amazon they, they use a combination of indigenous plant leaves in order to produce ayahuasca, which they, I wouldn't recommend doing it, but it's, they, they, it's a, it's a healing process for them. Right. And now we in the west are like utilizing things like ayahuasca trips and such to heal people of like psychological issues, ptsd, depression, anxiety that like. And I just wonder, it's like when you hear the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations, in what way would they be utilized? I don't know. And, and I don't know if that's such a stretch just because of that whole fractal nature again. Right. It's like these plants and, and, and, and fruits and such are here for us to use one way or another. We could use them badly and then we can go to a realm and we can communicate with disembodied spirits that wish us ill will. But the point of the, the fact of the matter is we can do this and go to another realm in, in the form of ayahuasca. So I, I just wonder if it's maybe something like that.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, it could be. I mean we, we really don't know. And I think that, so the question might be why would God tell us, give us this, in this, these images and not tell us exactly what they mean? I think it's for the same reason he doesn't tell us a lot about angels, the Elohim, because, you know, we were screwed up. We would worship them. In the Bible proper we were only given the names of two angels, Michael and Gabriel. Now there are a few more that are named in, in the book of Enoch, but there are countless angels. They all have names. Why we only know two of them? Because God knows that we'll worship them because we've done it in the past. That's like the more information I give you, the more opportunity you're going to screw it up. I'm gonna be very judicious in what I tell you because you're going to corrupt it. So I think that, that how, how are the leads going to be used? I don't know. I think if we knew, if God said you're going to take this leaf and make a pulses out of it and you're going to drink it. Oh really? Let's do that with the leaf. We find out, then we're going to end up with, like you said, with ayahuasca and heroin and stuff like that. Because he knows that we are going to take anything that's good and we're going to corrupt it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right, Right.

[Ed Mabry]

And also remember we're in spiritual warfare right now. We. And there's counterintelligence happening.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes.

[Ed Mabry]

And what if the, the, the evil angels know too much about what the New Jerusalem, New Jerusalem is going to be like and they use that to their advantage and they corrupt that. So I think God has to be very judicious in what he says because again, we don't know a lot about heaven. We don't know a lot about the New Jerusalem. And I think that's not because God wants to hide it from us, but because he knows that the more it's not like, like I've got, you know, I have a 10 year old and an 8 year old. I. There's certain things I'm not going to tell them right now. Now.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Ed Mabry]

Because you know, you know, they're not ready for It, I'm not going to tell them about sex. I mean, my 10 year old, I mean, in a couple years I'm gonna have to start talking to him about it, but I'm not going to tell my 8 year old, hey, here's when a man and a woman want to get together, they take off their clothes. They do that. I'm not gonna. It's not that it's a bad thing. I mean, in the right context, you know, sex is a beautiful thing, but he ain't ready to hear it. And if he hears it for me right now, it's gonna mess him up. He shouldn't be seeing pornography right now. He shouldn't be seeing a naked woman right now because it's going to screw him up. So I think the same thing with God. God knows right now we are children, we cannot, there's information we cannot handle, so we can only hint at it. So I can just tell my, my son that, you know, one day you're going to find the right woman and you're going to have a beautiful life together. And that's all I can tell them right now. I can't tell them the mechanics of everything that's going to go on with it. So I think we have to take that tactic.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, a lot of it has to do with our own filter that it passes through. You know what I mean? Because I was just thinking about that as you were saying that. I'm like, if I told that to my son, who's 9, it would just pass through the wrong filter entirely and he would misinterpret every aspect of it, you know, every inch along the way.

[Ed Mabry]

I'll tell you a personal story because this is something that John Linhart and I, we're working on for maybe later next year. We want to come up with some courses to help people with, you know, certain, like, mental health struggles that we have. And one of them is pornography for men. I mean, we all know it's a horror. It's, it's tough. And I think that if, and, and John helped me, we all, we've all been exposed to it and we've all had the issues and some of the ways that John and his team have come up with have really helped a lot of men because it's mostly a man thing. Women do it to a degree, but it's just mostly a man thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

And, but my story that I have is that the first time I was exposed to it, it was by accident when I was 8 years old. We Were. It was, there was a rainstorm and I was with my grandmother at the time. We had. There was a rainstorm and it was a lot of wind. It blew a bunch of stuff out, you know, from everywhere. And my grandmother tells me, you know, go out and rake up some, break up the leaves, clean up our yard. So I'll go out there and one of the things that had blown away towards into our yard was a page from Hustler magazine.

[David Lee Corbo]

Wow.

[Ed Mabry]

Like, what's this? Yeah, and I see this, I'm like, you know, you know, Hustler, they don't. Hustler's like the gynecological view. So I look down, I see this. I see something I'd never seen before. And I was like, whoa, what is this? And again, even at eight years old, it was. Oh. Something inside me said, this is, this is something I did. Yeah, I know what to do. But I mean, I can right now, I can see that image in my head because it was such an indelible imprint on my eight year old psyche.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

That's how strong this is. And of course it led to the next thing. So the next thing you know, you know, my, my friends are bringing their, their father's Playboys to the bathroom. We look at them and then, you know, you go to the next stage where you get in high school and you get a, you know, I'm older than you guys. We had. It was videotapes and CDs back then. And then you go, you keep going to the point where right now porn is so easy to get. It's just, it's nuts.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's a disaster.

[Ed Mabry]

It's a disaster.

[David Lee Corbo]

I have like, yeah, you have to.

[Ed Mabry]

Work to get porn. Back when I was young. Now you can just get a million hours of it, literally for free.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. That's why, like, my, my son is 9. He doesn't have Internet access at all. And I'm realizing, like, I don't know when I was exposed to, I was exposed to a lot of things, like, way too early. And every once in a while I look at him and I'm like, I'm pretty sure I'm like beating some sort of record here. Like, this kid's not been exposed to anything yet. You know, it's not like he, he doesn't have he. If he does, I almost feel like I'd have seen a change in him. Because if it happens, it's got to happen on his friend's time.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. There's just something he would detect just a little bit. And I'm like, no, he's still running around, just head in the clouds, innocent as ever, you know.

[Ed Mabry]

And it's like, I love that my son, when we're watching a, you know, a TV movie or something and the man or woman kiss, he covers his eyes.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, I'll do that. I cover his eyes. I don't let him see anything like that.

[Ed Mabry]

You know, he covers his own eyes. My youngest, he's like, oh, I don't want to see that. That's gross. Like, yes, it's. Keep it gross for as long.

[David Lee Corbo]

Good, good. Super gross. Disgusting. Don't worry about that at all. We're doing something irreparable to. To the kids and. And it's, you know, it's not good.

[Top Lobster]

It's Merkel. Merkel was saying on his show that someone had told him that he was like a higher up exec in the porn industry. And he was like, some of these girls that are doing this stuff aren't even people. They're like literal succubus demons. And every time you do this, you like offering a sacrifice to them. And I'm like, ah, dude. I was like, I kind of believe it. It feels that way.

[David Lee Corbo]

There's certainly a spiritual exchange.

[Ed Mabry]

That's.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's for sure. Yeah, that's for sure.

[Ed Mabry]

Wow, that's deep. That's.

[Top Lobster]

What we're saying is like, watch the homemade stuff. If you.

[Ed Mabry]

Don'T do that.

[Top Lobster]

It's probably demons too, dog.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know, I. The same thing happened to me though. Somebody in the chat said, we've all found. I think it might have been Lucas said, we've all found. Yeah, a bag of magazines in the woods and stuff. It's like, yeah, I found it in a. We were dumpster diving as kids because we found out that 711 threw out all their Game Informer, like their video game magazines. They just chuck them in the dumpster when they're done. So, you know, somebody told us that and we went and sure enough, all the magazines were in the dumpster, but all the magazines were in the dumpster and. And, you know, not good. It's. It's a disaster. Exposing children to those sorts of things.

[Ed Mabry]

When I'm. When I moved in with my. When I was 13, I moved in with my mom and my stepdad and, you know, I was cleaning out the garage. I don't know why this happens when I'm cleaning stuff, but then I run into my stepdad's stash of.

[David Lee Corbo]

There it goes. Yep.

[Ed Mabry]

Innocently. I wasn't even. I Wasn't trying to clean out the garage and there, there's his stash. I'm like, oh, well, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

The next thing you know, you're sitting there. I, I remember pulling those out of the. And they're just all, we spread them all out on the pavement. It's just me and a bunch of like a gang of 10 year olds just staring at this on the pavement. Well, would you look at that? Would you look at that? Like cars are driving by. We're all just staring at it on the floor.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, it's addictive.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

It tempted the freaking angels, right? I mean, they came down and it's, it's the power of the vajayjay.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yep.

[Ed Mabry]

Wow.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's it. That's it. I, you know, try to keep your kids from it as long as you possibly can. It's a, it's a, almost an uphill battle for sure.

[Top Lobster]

Such a weird thing because when you do look at it objectively, which I have done a couple of times now, I'm like, this thing is kind of goofy.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

In my, my bachelor party, you know, I went to, we went to New Orleans, which is, you know, one of my favorite cities. I just love the food and the culture of New Orleans. And that's what I wanted. I just wanted to hang out with my buddies and just eat good food, you know, drink, you know, Taiwan on with some, you know, get some good, get some Sazeracs and whatever and just, you know, enjoy the culture. But of course, on the last night, they're like, let's go to a strip club. I'm like, I don't want to do that guy.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm out of.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, I've, I go and I went. And you know, they were doing, they were doing their thing. They were having a good time. I'm looking at them and I, I did something that they don't do. I like look these women in the eye. I just looked at them. And when I did that, I'm like, you know what? These women don't want to be here. Here. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

You could tell.

[Ed Mabry]

I can look in your eye and tell you you don't want to be here. You're not happy. Yeah, you, you, you're just doing this, you're doing it for the money, which I get.

[David Lee Corbo]

A horrifying exchange.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

On all levels.

[Ed Mabry]

And it was such a turn off. And I have not, I've not been to one since because it's just like, this is sad. It really is. These, are these women. No little girl grows up Saying, you know what I want to do when I grow up? I want to, you know, take off my clothes and dance in front of a bunch of. A bunch of leering.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, but feminism wants to convince you that that's empowering. Shout out to Smurfy. I also have never been in a strip club. I just couldn't imagine, you know, because it's just the met. The fact of the matter of paying somebody to pretend they like you, right.

[Ed Mabry]

It's. It's pathetic for. Almost sad for the women. It's pathetic for the men.

[Top Lobster]

The men in the strip club is like watching Michael Jordan in Space Jam, like, at the end, where they're like, you're gonna be in this. In the chains, and you're going to be playing basketball forever. That's. That's exactly what it is. Very sad.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't even, like, you know, when I go to a. When I. When I go to a restaurant and the server is, like, overly nice to me, I'm like, you're only doing this because you want a tip. And, you know, you appreciate the nice, so I can't do that. Don't pretend to be. You know, I would much rather you not have to pretend to like somebody. That's not a good thing. And then, of course. Yeah, I just. So look, look, I have to address this because. Because Ed is, like, looking at this. They keep calling me master, and I just want to say. And I keep having to say it. These people don't actually respect me. They just know that one day somebody's gonna look at that and go, like, what is this guy doing?

[Ed Mabry]

And.

[David Lee Corbo]

And like, yeah, to their credit, it's. It's gonna be very funny. People think that I'm a cult leader.

[Top Lobster]

Flamboyantly dressed straight man with, like.

[Ed Mabry]

Putting the ball in your mouth. I think it's time to wrap it up.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's not good. It's not Good. Let's get it. 100. Bite me in the ass.

[Top Lobster]

Can we. Can we just discuss this last one, verse four here real quick? Or, you know, three and four.

[Ed Mabry]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's interesting.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

I had a dream last night, Ed, and. And. And this made me think about it. Number four, where it says his name shall be on their foreheads. I had a dream where I. I was, like, having a dialogue, and I could almost see, like, a man's face. And then I woke up because somebody touched my forehead. And when I woke up, there was nothing there. But in my mind, I. I was like. I was just Having a conversation with God. And that's literally the end of the entire experience. But that was like what was lingering my head was. I was talking to God and then I woke up because something touched me on my forehead. But there was. I can, like the, even the spot that I'm touching, I. It's like, you know, you can remember. It was right there. Very strange. But I just saw that, right? It says, and they shall see his face and his name shall be in. In their foreheads, honor. In.

[Ed Mabry]

In. And that's specific. So let me talk about both halves of this verse so that you'll see his face. What that means is that we will be able to experience the full presence of God.

[David Lee Corbo]

We'll be interesting.

[Ed Mabry]

See him as he is. Because remember, we may have talked about this before, like when Moses asked to see God and God's like, no man can see me and live because you know, he's at. He's at pure, like that pure energy. But you know, Moses could see the back. God hit him in a cliff and in the cliff of a mountain. And you can see him pass by eye. We'll be able to see him full on because we will occupy the same space. We will be like him in the sense that we will be able to actually see his face. That doesn't necessarily mean that he has a. Eyes, nose, mouth, maybe, maybe. But what I'm thinking is we will be able to see his full countenance. We'll be able to fully experience him. He won't be. He won't be holding anything back from us for our safety. We'll be able to fully experience God. I think that's going to be unbelievable because you know, you have the, you know, the source of all information, the, the eternal light. It's beyond our comprehension, but we'll be able to comprehend him and our name will be in. In. In their foreheads. What that hearkens back to is the. The Shema, which is, you know, the, the. The hero Israel, the Lord your God is one. And you will, you know, that's what all Jews are supposed to recite. And it says you're supposed to put the Shema, which is, you know, it was basically the first of the ten commandments. You put it on your doorpost and you also have it in your right hand and in your forehead. Now that doesn't mean that the ancient Israelites were walking around with this, with this written on their forehead. It was in their foreheads. It was in their mind, in your right hand. So your right hand is what you is your action, your forehead is, is your mind. So when it says keep my law, he might keep the Shema in your right hand. And your forehead, which is. It vividly says that in Leviticus and in Deuteronomy it's saying that keep the word of God, the presence of God in your mind and in your right hand. And so it means your actions should be all about God and your mind should be focused on God. So the name, when it comes to.

[David Lee Corbo]

The mark of the beast. Right, because it's like instead you're putting the beast's name there.

[Ed Mabry]

Right, Exactly. Even though I think the mark of the beast will be physical, I. I think it also will be, remember, because that's all Satan does. He mimics God.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Ed Mabry]

So he's mimicking it in that same way. That's why the mark will be in the right hand in their forehead. So I think it will be worshiping. That's what you do with your head. But I also think it's going to be a physical mark that's going to, you know, make changes to you.

[Top Lobster]

This calls to the idea of the pineal gland too. Like, you know how the new age will be like enlightenment.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's like, like, yeah, third eye closed situation.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, yeah, I hear about that a lot and I'm still, I haven't studied it, but I, but people say you're like pineal glands calcified. Like, why is that? Why does it have so much bloody calcium in it? I don't, I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

It produces dimethyltryptamine. Right. Which is responsible for these like really wild experiences where you can seemingly realm shift depending on if you smoke it. But yeah, I mean, what's interesting about it is that even in it. So it does have the makeup of an eye. Like the gland is, is got some anatomy about it that is close to an eye, like in, in lizards. It actually has a retina and a lens. And I, you, I used to own a bearded dragon. You could look between their eyes on the top of their head and you could see a small foggy lens. Yeah, yeah. So this thing is very much like an eye in its nature. So I, I find that fascinating. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

[Ed Mabry]

It just might. I mean, I need to do some study on the pine o gland because I, I've kind of shied away from. Because it seems so occulty. But again, like we've been saying before, a lot of these things are just corrupted forms of good things. So if it's in your body. It's good, it's for, it's for you, but it's, but maybe they've corrupted it. Maybe. They've definitely corrupted it. So, and again, I have to admit that, you know, growing up, I shied away from anything that wreaked of the occult because I did not want to be a part of it. But, but as I've grown, I have to have to come to the realization that everything that God made, he made good. He made it for our benefit. But it can be corrupted by evil and we need to separate the corruption from the truth and from the reality.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, right.

[Ed Mabry]

So I'm not going to open my pineal gland in order to, you know, do whatever and go into spiritual planes and do things I'm not supposed to do. But I need to know where that line of demarcation is so I don't cross over it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, I, I started my whole journey like looking at the occult and everything. And what's clear to me is like, there's definitely something there. It's not like theories and, and practices that don't yield any results. Like there, there, there seems to be something really spiritual about us. It just sucks because Christianity, and maybe for a good reason, I'm not saying that, that they were wrong in this, but it's like it has stepped back away from those things so dramatically. And I think it's wise to focus on Christ, but I don't think it's wise to say that these things are not real because then what happens if somebody discovers that they are? Well, then they feel as though they've been lied to.

[Ed Mabry]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

And that's probably the same.

[Top Lobster]

Same reason you don't show your kid porn when you're explaining the birds and the bees. Right. It's kind of like a little too much. You'll, that's, yeah, it is.

[Ed Mabry]

I think for, I think if you're a younger Christian, if you're just getting into it, I think you should stay as far away from that as possible. But I think once you've grown, I, I, then I think that's, that that may be a little safer for you to, to go deeper into some of these areas and which again, that's, that's what faith by reason, faith is not for like baby Christians. It's for, you know, Nephilim Death squad is not for baby Chris. It's for people who are, who want to go deeper and are mature enough for it. Because if you're not mature enough where I think Paul said this himself, Paul said, don't be a stumbling block to, you know, to younger Christians. So, you know, it's. Remember it was the, the part about eating meat, sacrificed idols, and Paul said, if you're a mature Christian, yeah, go ahead and eat it, because, you know you're not. You can eat the meat because, you know it's just meat. But if you're a young Christian, don't stay away from that. Don't eat that meat because you may be leading them astray. Because that young Christian might say, well, I guess it's okay to. To, you know, do these. This idol. Idol worship because there's mature Christians doing it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. I would never let you, like, drive a car without first understanding all the ways in which a car accident can happen and how to be safe inside the car. Right. So, yeah, it's kind of like that.

[Top Lobster]

We'Re running up on time that we got to get out of here. Definitely. But I wanted to ask you this because now that we're on this, just before you popped on, on the stream, I was talking to Raven and I said, should we be, like, not making this show not about who we are, but should we be tailoring it more toward the average church going Christian? Because is this show for somebody who already is in their faith and is like, possibly having more questions about it? But also, I understand sometimes we say some things like, especially when it's just me and David, we go off the rails, and I can't help it. So I'm like, should we tone that back? And we decided. We're like, no, I don't care. Like, listen, you gotta. This is who we are. And if we do it any other way, it's gonna be bad. But you know what top is this show for necessarily for people who are in church that are. Because there's a lot of people that are like, I'm not in church and I had no real spirituality. But like, like this helped me kind of make heads and tails. And it's like a. It's a jumping on point, but it's a hard one.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Top Lobster]

Because we're talking about occult stuff and you could feel real before Ed answers that.

[David Lee Corbo]

I just want to say, like, when I make content, I don't do this on purpose, but it just so turns out that I make content for me. In other words, like, I am that person who is told that these things aren't valid occult things. And the more I'm looking at them, the more I'm like, no, there's something here, and I don't have any answers for it. From a Christian source. And now I get to make content like that from that perspective. And, and so I recognize that if I were have stumbled upon this show when I was a kid, I never did anything. I never was a practicing occultist or anything like that. And I was never an atheist either. But this would have been a lifeline to me.

[Ed Mabry]

So here's two answers. One is faith by reason. I started. It's for more mature Christians. It's. And I did it specifically because, like you just said, Raven, I made it for me, for people who are on my journey because I figured there had to be. There are lots of stuff that's for younger Christians. There's, I think most stuff out there is for Christians who are only at a certain level, but there's a dearth of information, not very much for Christians who want to go deeper. So I did make it for that. That said, there are two things that I'm doing right now that will be for younger Christians, I think the Bible study, for one. I think if you're mature or young, the fact that we're going into this with no preconceived notions in my Patreon Bible study, that can be for younger Christians. And the Q A thing that I, that I'm going to start, I want us to do with, with John pretty soon is going to be where people just ask whatever question you have. It can be a complex question or an, a basic question. I'm not going to say, oh, that's, that's, that's. I don't. Why was he born of a virgin? That's a basic question. I'm not going to, you know, shun that. That's. It's a good question that a young Christian might have. And I'll be happy to answer any of those questions, you know, through the, the show that we'll be doing in the future as well as, you know, what's on my Patreon right now. But I, I don't, I, I don't dumb it down. I really don't. And that's why I want the Q A for people who are like, well, this is a little too much. Can you bring it down? That's when I'll maybe bring it down a little bit more. But, but my audience, the audience that I'm cultivating, the niche is for Christians who have a little level of maturity and they want to keep going beyond what they're getting maybe from their church, because if you go to a big church, they have to service a lot of people. And, you know, the stuff we talk about is maybe only going to appeal to maybe 10 of that church necessarily.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right. And it's a lot of unpacking about the minutia of strange things to people and it. Yet it doesn't become conducive to a larger audience. But I think like, at the end of the day, I have to focus on pursuing the truth and I can't focus on passing it through a filter. You know, like, this isn't a difficult show for me to do because all it requires is like, you know, probably shouldn't swear that much or get too obtuse and that. Honestly, I'm not really like that. My Twitter profile is inflammatory, but that's because of the nature of Twitter in my own, you know, expression. I'm not really like that. And so if I had to start then passing it through a filter, it would affect the message. And I'm only in it for the truth. That's, that's all I'm looking for. And so I think that's what makes this thing go is other people who are also looking for the truth and, and really aren't concerned with whether or not I'm Joel Olsteening it up and, and passing it through one thing while clearly being something else. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

So if, if this, if this is steak, Joel Osteen is like breast milk.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes. Well, careful. There's some people that are into that. Shout out toad. Okay.

[Top Lobster]

My co host too.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay, we got to bring it in for a landing show in, in five minutes. So. And one more time, let the audience know where they can find next week.

[Top Lobster]

What are we doing next week?

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yes, that's right.

[Top Lobster]

God will.

[Ed Mabry]

Next week we're going to talk about more detail about what we'll be doing in, in the new Jerusalem. My opinion is that's when I get into my. My crazy wild theory that may or may not be even remotely true, but it's speculation and we're going to do that. And then following that, we'll probably. I'll do just a conclusion episode where I just bring everything together from, from chapter one to chapter 22 and we'll talk through it.

[Top Lobster]

Okay, perfect. And speaking of the of Joel Osteen, where can they find you? Ed?

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, that's crazy. Looking.net is is my main channel. This is my Patreon, which I just launched, and I'd love for you guys to be a part of it. At the, the tier one level, you get bonus content, you get your Q and A's answered, you get, you get everything before anyone else is going to be on Patreon for weeks, maybe even months depending on it, before I released to the general public. And at the blue tier, you're part of that Bible study. We call it the Jehovah Story Book Club where we read the Bible like a novel that you've never read before. We take it from the supernatural point of view. We go through the entire Bible in one year. And you have access to resources with summaries and videos and deep dives and commentary that you have access to that. And yeah, it's, it's. It's been life changing for a lot of people. Folks have been asking me for it. I've been doing it for about five years now and this is the first time I opening it up to people outside of the private group that I've been doing it with. So I'd love for you guys to come aboard and be a part of it. I, I promise you it's going to change your relationship with God. I promise you that. There's stuff here that you will not hear anyplace else because I've never heard of anyplace else.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm excited, man. I've been looking for a good Bible study and you know, I, I don't want to go and, and do one with people I'm not familiar with. I'd rather hang with, with, with, with friends of the show. So I'm looking forward to it. I'm definitely going to be there. I hope a lot of the, the people listening and watching will, will join us.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, I'm going to be putting this on. I'm going to have to put this in the description so it's clickable because I didn't add that to this. But yeah, it'll be there when you guys re watch it on audio or whatever, go there, scroll down and it'll be a hyperlink. You could just click it one. I know you guys are lazy. Just press it.

[Ed Mabry]

That's all you got to do.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's all you got to do. I hope. I look forward to hanging out with you guys and doing a Little Bible Study. February 16th.

[Top Lobster]

All right, let's wrap it up because I gotta pee. So.

[Ed Mabry]

Okay.

[Top Lobster]

All right, thank you again. We'll see you next week. Don't forget to obey, submit and comply. Goodbye.

[Ed Mabry]

The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see to go because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening. And they have.