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The Columbine Massacre W/ Austin Picard
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In this explosive episode of Nephilim Death Squad, Austin Picard returns to break down the dark truth behind the Columbine Massacre—military intelligence ties, psychological operations, “the influencer industrial complex,” satanic power structures,...
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven, AKA New haircut. Looking super handsome, super cool shirt. Don't call me haircut. That's not nice. Stop producing me today.
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My bad. What's up Tank Top?
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That's Top Lobster. The father of calling me Tank Top. Before we get into today's guest, a little reminder. We're gonna go live exclusively to Patreon.com forward slash Nephilim death Squad at the half an hour mark. If you want to continue engaging in the live chat watching this episode, gaining early access to episodes before the general public as well as ad free listening experiences. Plus, do it there, do it there. Early dibs on tickets to Bohemian Grove, which will happen the first Friday and Saturday of March here at the Standard Coffee Shop, which is where we come in at you. Oh hey, look at that.
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From first, first post, there are tagged post a man tightly tied in with our current guest.
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Wow, that is true.
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That's an interesting, it's an interesting thing.
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That we look at what ecosystem is developing here.
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Let's introduce the guest.
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Oh, well, all right. Toplapse.com also joining us today is Austin. Oh, wait up.
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We actually could. Sound effects are back.
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We got our buttons back, baby. Thank you for joining us once again, Austin. It's always awesome to hang out with Austin.
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Austin.
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Awesome. Austin. Austin. Before we get into the conversation, let's talk a little bit about where people can find you and what it is that you do, baby.
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Awesome, brother. You already know, boys. I love you and I appreciate you.
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No, we love you, dude.
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It's, it's always a good time every time we get a chance to have a conversation. And you guys kind of, you at least ground me in a way that I think is necessary at certain points during my, my kind of avenue of thought because unfortunately it was hilarious. I did an interview the other day with the Jackman Brothers and, and my wife tells me, she calls me, she calls me just before, uh, we go live, right? And she says, stay on task. You know, this is who grounds me in, in my day to day sort of reality and lifestyle. So again, it's, it's important, I think, to connect yourself with someone who understands who you are, but also wants to bring the best out of you in a certain way. And I think, man, over the course of my lifetime, just as far as my limited experience, like, I very much developed this, this kind of philosophy of eradicating the dead weight just in terms of not, not necessarily claiming that I'm not willing to, you know, have conversations and relationships with people who, who are obviously in dire need of some, you know, maybe they're in some sort of pit of despair in a way due to certain decisions they, they made along, you know, the. Just kind of, yeah, that, that strange experience we all go through as, as we, we learn who we are in a certain way. And I think that's the most important part is to reflect on what moral values you kind of really can stand on, principally. And, and so, yeah, I just, I love being able to engage with people that I know have, have good intentions and, and I can kind of see just the, just the good hearts behind, you know, the personality. And I think whenever that shines through, you know, you, you've definitely found yourself in, in kind of this opportunistic, you know, just position that you should take advantage of, you know, and, and I just, but, but not take for granted, you know, and I think that that's the other thing is that I just really, I really have grown to respect the relationships that I've cultivated over the. Just doing the podcast in itself and, and I always.
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Have you been doing this, Austin?
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It was April 2023, I think. So you've made not very long good.
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Friends with good people.
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Really quick a speed run.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Through the process.
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Yeah man. It's really all due to Sam honestly. You brought him up and, and I, I always try and reference how much he's done for me. Just opening the door and, and kind of introducing me to people just through, through being willing to have that open minded and objective conversation with, with basically anyone he finds interesting. And, and, and that in itself the law of abundance is, is something. Yeah I very much admire and, and try and live by that in a certain way as well. And so yeah, I, I just think there are always, and I've said this before, I mean there are plenty of seats at the table. You just have to kind of put in the effort and, and, and the commitment and, and be, you know, in a way disciplined enough to, to kind of pursue things in an objective way. And that's where most people, I think the, there's an appetite, a very, you know, large appetite for, for genuine authenticity and, and anytime. This is my biggest frustration in terms of like the, in the influencer industrial complex that's being.
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Oh, I like that. The influencer industrial complex part of it.
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Yeah, we are though. But it's strange because I feel like we're kind of surrounded at this current moment and just by limited hangouts and, and sort of misdirection, social engineering tactics of, of control and deception and they're being so efficiently, you know, leveraged against us and implemented at a certain, at a certain level. I, I see people like that are so prominent in this, in this sort of environment, like a Candace Owens, right. Who's who's kind of taking the spotlight in a certain way and setting the narrative in in my opinion as far as. Also Brad brought up to me the concept of her essentially kind of you know, being the justification basically for a crackdown, a further crackdown on, on, you know, just influencers in general and content creators who, who are providing dissenting opinions and dissenting voices by way of like, like.
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So because she's talking about Israel or because she's talking about even like lizard people, right? Because she kind of had a reptilians kind of a thing lately, it is.
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A Funny, like, that little overlap into conspiracy. It's allowed them to be like, Candace is out of her mind. She's completely crazy. She said xyz. I mean, maybe some of the things that she said has been outlandish. A lot of it has been salacious, I would say, where she's like, you got to tune in to today's episode because we're going to blow the roof off of whatever.
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The Jews.
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Yeah, again, the Jews. And. And then she'll. Yeah, she'll slip in the lizard people. And when I saw that clip, I said, hey, maybe not.
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I went, not bad. I kind of like it. I'm not. Not mad at it.
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Hey, it opens the door. I. I do believe that. But. But yeah, it's very interesting to me because Tucker's kind of following that very similar path. Right. And I will argue that Tucker went there first. Right.
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Because think about when he's talking about the Nephilim. He's talking about.
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This is when we first, like, started the show. Yeah, the meme Nephilim shit was something that we were doing. And then we saw that, like, start moving through the zeitgeist. And it was. It was a weird thing to. Not to be, like, we did it.
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But, like, we were over the target.
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And it was honestly, like, there was a weird time, man, before I even knew you guys, right. I. I knew of Nephilim Death Squad, basically, and. And. And I just saw, you know, obviously, I think it was probably through Sam, that. That I directly, you know, came across your content. But as soon as I did it just, you know, as far as resonating with me in terms of the taboo subjects that you seem to be willing to approach in this, like, I mentioned, objective manner where you. You bring light to the conversation in a way that's very necessary. And I think that's. That's important, people. I've kind of been reinterpreting the clown pill as of late in. In my own sort of way. It's not necessarily the traditional use of the term, but. But essentially my new interpretation is basically just we're. We're intended to. Now, I appreciate the kind of clown pill aspect of. Of bringing humor to the equation because it's. It's very necessary throughout the process of demoralization. Right.
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And it's.
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It's funny too, because, like, the clown pill is something that we've been getting away from as we got into the coffee shop.
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We're getting back in. Can we get back in?
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We're trying to. But it's like this Guy Matt Hepner, really kind of took clown pill, and he just embodied it.
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Yeah. And I think that's probably it. It' working with a guy who's always.
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Overbearing, always joke time with him.
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Constantly joke time.
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Yeah.
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And it's like, we can't really get a word in edgewise.
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Nothing or, like, talk about anything serious. Yeah, yeah.
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It's kind of, you know, what. Did I. Did I sin?
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Are we the serious ones in the room? I think that's what's going on.
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Look at me. Yeah, I'm the serious.
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I'm the serious one now.
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Oh, my God.
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I get it. Well, look, I mean, I think you're absolutely right, though. The. The. The humor has to. Because there are so many things that are propositioning you at any given moment. And the proposition is be sad, be upset, be in despair, be demoralized, like you said. And I refuse. I refuse to be demoralized. Why would. I mean, you know, that's right, Tank Top. Don't call me Tank Top, don't call me Haircut, and don't call me them in conjunction. But, yeah, I. I just feel like, you know, we believe in God. That's. That's. Jesus Christ is in many ways the cornerstone. This is a foundation that we built this whole thing on.
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How.
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How am I going to have despair? How am I going to be sad knowing that, you know, this all ends with God winning? And it's like. I think that it's constantly. You know, we talk about it. The Bible tells you to fear not. Not giving into fear is a. Is a huge. What would you call it? Like, it's like a rule on this show. It's principle. It's a principle that we stand on. And so knowing that and then looking around at all the. That's constantly telling you be. And I look at sadness, and I look at anger as akin to fear, because it emerges in different ways. You know, some people, they get afraid, and that'll. That'll evoke sadness within them, and some people get afraid, and that'll evoke anger in them. So I try to stay away from all that because I'm not going to give in to that. The world wants you to be afraid, and I don't think you should. So, yeah, comedy takes the piss out of that, brother.
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That's the. I think that's the true underlying goal in terms of the social engineering and the. The mind virus contagion that has been very much conditioned into the vast majority of the general public. And. But as far as with. With Candace. I explained it as Candace Owens came to me in a dream and told me that Israel killed Charlie Kirk just because.
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I get my information.
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Yeah, but you're just for me. If, if something feels too, too low frequency and easy in terms of embracing that narrative, I feel like the critical thinking aspect of remaining skeptical matters more than anything. And, and especially when you're waiting through this, you know, very well manufactured disinformation campaign which, which I do believe she's a key part of. And this doesn't mean she doesn't reference things that, that are of high importance and even make legitimate points that are credible as well.
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That's a good.
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I think she does because I do. Well, I think there's a level of. Now see, this is just my opinion. Obviously I'm speculating. I don't know her but I do believe there is plenty of evidence tying her back to, to the Tavistock Institute and essentially being in an arranged marriage with her now husband and basically he's tied to military intelligence and, and, and really the same company that, that financed Tucker's new show is also directly connected into this same network. And so it seems like when she had the epiphany and the vision to go to London. Right. It turns out with Charlie, by the way, she, that's where she, she inevitably at one point the claim is she was one of the founding Freemasons of Turning Point usa. And so I, I definitely. Yes, yes.
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Black people in.
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I didn't know that. That's fun, dude.
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No, actually, I worked. I worked with a black guy that was a freemason.
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Shaq is a Freemason. But I thought they just let him in because he's 17ft tall and they had no option.
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Nephilim stuff.
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Yeah, he crushed him with his.
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Sorry. Please continue. This is.
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Oh, you're good.
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Joke time with this guy. Sorry. I'm very.
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Hey, the boule is real, and I think there are, you know, sort of racial factions of secret societies and fraternal organizations that are obviously, you know, just utilized in this very prominent fashion in terms of running domestic operations. That definitely occurred as far as Kamala Harris was tied back to this freemasonic police force, right. That essentially was. Was a fake police force that had even outfitted old police cars to. To look as if they were still, you know, active and. And, you know, legitimately an actual police vehicle, you know, at that moment. And then they would dress up as police officers and go around raiding various organizations and businesses and. And then kind of, uh, you know, in some sort of, uh, mafia sort of tactic, right. Forced them into submission in a way and. And to become a part of the network and. And sort of utilize them for protection in the area. But that definitely happened, and it was proven. And when one of the individuals who was tied back to Kamala was actually exposed and inevitably claimed when he blew the whistle that he was. Yes, a part of the boule had constructed this freemasonic police force because they claimed they. They could function within all these various jurisdictions, even internationally. Going down to Mexico and that. Yeah, it was very interesting when. When it. They were actually. The authorities cracked down on this when it was exposed, but the individual, it was essentially covered up because the individual who blew the whistle. I forget his name now, but he. He basically winds up. He. First of all, he claims they're going to kill me, and then he winds up dead. Right. Worst case of suicide you've ever seen, dude.
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You hear so many stories of that, by the way, where it's like there's a psychological break, and among all the chaos, they might manage to mutter something like, they're going to kill me. I think Martin Lawrence, like, famously on the set of Blue Streak, yeah, Dude runs out, he's in his, like, tank top and underwear, and he's waving a gun, and he's saying, they're trying to kill him. And, you know, they basically called it, like, a manic episode. And then, you know, whatever, they subdued him, I guess, and then they were like, let's Finish Blue Streak and you know, and it was a great movie.
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My God. I do believe that there are many different assets within Hollywood that are clearly kind of managed and, and handled. They have handlers that are assigned to them. That was something that Candace actually said recently. Right. Which, which was the fact that she believes she and, and Charlie were assigned at a specific moment in time. And, and that was around when they were kind of orchestrating that meeting with Kanye, which is very interesting because that plays perfectly into that of Harley Pasternak and, and the, the sort of military intelligence, chemical warfare, you know, mind war operative that was basically the handler of Kanye and said, you know. Right. Threatened to send him back to Zombieland. Play dates with the kids will never be the same. They, I mean, that it's hard to dismiss, especially seeing his, his recent meeting with that Kabbalistic rabbi from Morocco.
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Yeah. Where he's kissing his hand and everything.
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Right.
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It's the same rabbi that LeBron James met with, right?
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Yep, exactly. Yeah. While he was doing that major Nike deal. Apparently negotiating that contract in like 2010 or something.
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Yeah. LeBron James is supposed to be part of the Boule Society as well.
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You know, I had. So in, in this coffee shop, there's a lot of like older Christian people and I have conversations with a lot of them. And just yesterday we had a conversation with a nice guy named Norm.
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Yeah. How you were talking to him. A conversation. You talked to him for like two hours.
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I let him say what he's saying because I, I do agree, like I'm, I'm conflicted with the part of biblical Israel because I'm like, clearly there is a covenant. If the Bible says there's a covenant between God and these people, fine. But then I'm like, what about the crimes? And he's like, what crimes? And I'm just like laying them out. And the dude's looking at me, he's like. And I'm like, yeah, dog. He's like this crime, you know. Kanye west just met with the rabbi and apologized to him.
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For all the stuff that he tweeted, like why is that?
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That was the deal. Like I don't know. Is that what's supposed to.
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I have not been given a satisfactory answer. So there's two things, there's always these two things in my mind.
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I thought it was a sneaker merge that he was doing with the rabbi. Sneaker collaboration with the rabbi. I don't know what it was. That's interesting.
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I, I, but yeah, there's no satisfactory answer. And there's real. No, I haven't been given a reason why we should accept the crimes of these people. But, but as we're reading the Bible because this is what we've been focusing on now. We've been reading the Bible, focusing on these studies. There's a lot of stuff about God's chosen people that is true. But we just read through a passage where God's chosen people got eaten by the ground. Yeah. The ground opened up, ate them up and shut its mouth. And I was like, those are Jews too. Yeah. And then, then we read another passage where they were like, yeah, how are we gonna lie to this guy? So that way everybody here dies.
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Yeah. Well that's the thing. Is it? I don't think we're meant to not criticize them.
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No, we're not meant, we're meant to not.
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But you're not supposed to curse him and that's a different thing. Talked about that a bunch and we're.
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Not cursing them like right on.
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But you dumb.
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Figure out that Jesus Christ is your Lord and savior and you guys missed the whole Messiah thing. But I mean like you're not supposed to, you're not supposed to curse him. But throughout the Bible. Yeah, they, they do. It's just been horrific shit.
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F
It's fun walking that line now in real life with people because a lot of people don't have access to people like Austin Picard who's going to like lay out foundationally why all the crimes of Israel.
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I just think. Yeah, go ahead. I, I just thought that with, with the modern state of Israel, I, I view it's a strategic blurring of the lines between religion and politics by design. And in, in my mind, I see it as, as hijacking really, the, the almost kind of a false representation of the Jewish people even at large. And I think that, that, that you know, just fundamentally kind of dumbing it down to a level where you, you blame the average Jewish peasant class for, for the, the just totalitarian dystopian sort of policies that have come out of the modern state of Israel. I think you're missing the boat and that that's a low hanging fruit in a serious way to the point to where you will fall into a trap ideologically and you will blame a collective group for, for things that they're not directly responsible for and that that in itself is a huge mistake. And I think, you know, it's led people who I very much admire and respect into that sort of mentality and outlook and perspective and, and as if if the modern, even if the modern state of Israel didn't exist in this moment, all of our problems would go away. And that is just such a misconception in my opinion. And I see, you know, I view it as they're deliberately attempting to manufacture a false prophecy. And that doesn't make a true, you know, legitimate divine prophecy, you know, in any way. It doesn't discredit it in any real way. I think it.
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No, but I would, I would agree with you, Austin. It does look like they're manufacturing prophecy on a lot of different levels.
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Can you manufacture a prophecy?
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Well, that, that's the question is like, just because it's made by a man, is it not? Or is it the fulfillment of prophecy? But it seems pretty clear to me that on many levels they are orchestrating elements, prophetic elements.
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Did they orchestrate the Columbine?
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Hey man, I will say there is a Jewish component that I was unaware of in terms.
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I don't want to know. I mean, because it's. Do you see the problem here? I'm trying to be better, but it's just like, just being blapped by.
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Oh, I mean, yeah, I mean, unless he's going to tell us that the whole thing was about foreskin and the missing foreskin of the Columbine shooters, I don't think it's a, you know, I think it's everything you look in there's going to be these little elements. So, yeah, we're trying to be better but you still got to say what it is. Yeah.
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Oh yeah. I think that it was very strange that I discovered that there's a connection to Dylan Klebold. Basically his mother was, was from this very prominent Jewish family. And it was very strange because also there's this obvious and, and very clear just kind of. I described it as the crossroads between Columbine and 911 and, and it really blows me away as far as Columbine happening in April 19th of 1999 and, and then obviously not long after we have 911 take place. And, and I think knowing the background of, of Eric Harris's father, Wayne Harris, who's directly, you know, involved with military intelligence, even working for Flight Safety Services Corporation, which would train some of the 911 hijackers in their flight simulation program. And he, he was very much a part of that. And I think there's no coincidence in terms of also John Bennett Ramsey, who was the father of JonBenet Ramsey, was also in that same exact area. And, and you know, the head of a, of an organization that was directly utilizing the same flight simulation software of that of Flight Safety Safety Services Corporation, which is just fascinating in itself. You know, let alone Dylan Klebold's born on 9 11, September 11th. Then you have Eric Harris fast fantasizing in his journal, right. His diary about him and, and Dylan essentially escaping after, because basically it was supposed to. Columbine was intentionally. Well, if we're to believe the official narrative in terms of the, what their intention was with the actual operation itself or the mass shooting, they wanted it to initially be a bombing and only secondarily a shooting, because they wanted to actually. That's why they had developed over 99 different bombs, dry ice bombs, pipe bombs, propane bombs. And they had rigged up the school, which is fascinating in itself because they is still very much like not very well documented as far as how the school was actually rigged with these bombs because again, allegedly wer believed that they rigged the school that morning, which, I mean, that's, that's ridiculous to me as far as them not being noticed by any of the authorities at the school. None of the students noticed anything even in, in the exact same moment where they allegedly were seen on the cameras bringing in their black bags which had some of the pipe bombs and some of their guns in them. They, they allegedly put those bags with the rest of the students backpacks and things like that. But the exact, the moment where that footage was was actually, you know, just caught by the, the surveillance cameras at the school happened to be when the custodian and janitor of the school decided to swap the tape out at that exact moment. So we don't have the actual footage of that taking place, which we would have had, allegedly. And so, again, I watch all the surveillance tapes from the cafeteria, which is where the. It was the cafeteria in the library where the majority of the deaths took place. And they were kind of on top of each other. The library was above the cafeteria. And that's why you see one of the victims who's, like, climbing out of one of the broken windows on the top floor of the cafe of the library, and he's just dangling there until the authorities actually go and. And pull him out. But it's. It's super nuts. And just seeing how the response itself was ridiculous as far as, like, they didn't even enter the school for hours. You know, it was around four hours. Yeah.
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Can we rewind for a second? Because you touched on something there that's super fascinating. And it's an element that has appeared before, and it's this situation where some sort of. I don't know how you would describe it. Well, you said that it was JonBenet Ramsey's father was involved. And I want to go back to that and talk about how that was. I just want to. I think it bears reiteration, but also, what's that situation where it was, like, the fathers of, like, the Sandy Hook shooter and like the. I think it was like the Batman, the Aurora, Colorado shooter. Yeah. And it was like both of these dudes, both fathers of these people were involved in some sort of a. I think it was like a court case revolving around video game violence or something to that can do. You know what I'm talking about?
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D
Because I'm. No, definitely. I actually went on Tinfoil Hat the last time with Brad to discuss this exact same subject. As far as the LIBOR connection.
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F
Shout out to libor. Shout out to Brad Binkley.
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E
Oh, back on.
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D
Yeah, yeah.
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F
These guys are. You guys are killers. Oh, what one. I mean, again, really quick plug. I know we're gonna do a lot of plugs. You didn't mention it. We asked you to do a plug and you were like, I just really like you guys.
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E
I like, Go to.
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F
Go to. I guess the. Whatever this is podcast that's only on your Patreon, right?
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D
Yes. Yeah, yeah, It's.
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F
This is Brad Binkley. This is Austin Picard and Sam Tripoli. What a crazy.
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E
What a great show that put behind a paywall. No, I'm glad that you know. Good Put it behind a paywall. It's worth the money. But that's a damn good show, dude.
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D
Yeah, Been talking about. I know at one point he had mentioned we should start like slow releasing the, the earlier episodes at a certain point. So that, that'll be cool. Yeah, I think we should probably end up doing that. Drive a little bit more attention to it as well. But, but yeah, it's, it's a blessing, man. I couldn't be more grateful for that. Just having that opportunity. And then also just, man, there's just something about the two of them. They, they. I couldn't feel more like I'm just having a conversation with my friends, you know, with my buddies. And it's very similar to, to whenever we have conversations, you know, it's like. And I, I kind of in, in many ways, as ridiculous as it sounds, I, I see a little bit of myself and Sam occasionally, which is hilarious as far as the self critical nature of, of, you know, kind of overly criticizing yourself in almost a self defeating way. And I'm not, I'm not condemning him or, you know, or, or in any way judging him, but because I suffer from the exact same plight as in, in terms of just, you know, I have goals of discussing certain things whenever I go on a show. And, and if I don't necessarily get there, I, I have this feeling of failure, you know, and, and it's almost like it's only what I know I left on the table at a certain level, which, which is frustrating because it seems like the vast majority of the audience seems to have a positive reaction and, and that's really what matters, dude. Yeah.
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F
Honestly, a lot of it is our fault because we just had you on the LIBOR scandal and I'm like, well, let's play.
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E
Well, that's, I was just putting it here just to keep it. But I, I do want to talk about this a little bit, which is.
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F
Weird, like doing damage to it. Just constant derailment.
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E
But I do want to suck off Sam Tripley for a second because, oh, it's huge. That guy paved the way for guys like us.
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F
You know, I was just talking to Frank in the front. There's a guy who gave us a large donation. He's not, not like a wealthy man, but in the coffee shop. So we were doing and he's like, yeah, I just like to practice abundance. And I was like, there's a guy.
- [33:19]
E
Yep.
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F
Named Sam Tripoli. He's kind of wrong and that's. But he's, he has practiced abundance everywhere he goes that's what I do too. Because he does it and then it comes back and it's like, it's almost such a greedy, it's like a greedy thing to do because it does come back because like I know it's going to work. So I'm like, yeah, I'm going to keep doing that.
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E
But that's an example of that. And we were having this conversation on my solo show and somebody was just.
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F
Like, on your show?
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E
My show on the Raven. And, and somebody in the chat was just like, love, Sam.
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I can't wait till he stops posting smut.
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F
And I was just like, dude, I.
- [34:53]
E
Gotta be honest with you, you know, because they're looking at it through the Christian lens and I'm like, honestly, he's not gonna stop. Well, he's not. Cause he's addicted. No, but. But he's more of a Christian than most of the Christians that I actually know in real life. And it's like he could be a gatekeeper, which is hilarious when people accuse him of being a gatekeeper because as far as I'm concerned, he's not keeping the gate. He's literally got his foot in it and he's holding it open for everybody and he's like, come on dude, come on. And he platforms so many of us and he's such a genuine guy and he's such a good guy and he helps out so much. And I'm like, no, this is not like you Know, whatever your struggle is with whatever your thing is, if his is big Booty Latinas, then so be it. But. But that guy is a guy that.
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F
Is, I will say, a story. And it's not to throw or anyone under the bus, because I. I really like. I. I like, like xg. But I know that there was a point. I think I've even heard it on the. On their show where XG had brought up to Sam. He's like, hey, like, with us specifically. He's like, are we sure that we want to, like, oh, without.
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E
With nds?
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D
Yeah.
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F
He's like, like, we're pushing audiences to other people.
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E
Yeah.
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F
And he's like, and they have a good show and they might go there and not come back. And Sam was like, oh, man, you're a Mexican. No, but Sam took him because it's. It's actually. It's a smart inclination because xgs. XG is a really smart dude. He is really, with podcasting, he's worked hard, and he's like, he understands, like, the funneling of audiences. And Sam just like, we don't do that here. Like, we just keep. We. We're gonna grow and other people will grow also. Yeah, we don't do that. He's like, I'm not looking at that. And actually was like, okay, but that's.
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E
What happens is, is Sam helps us grow. Then Sam literally headlines our live events. Like, I was like, I'm always gonna look to that dude as, like, you know, one of. You know, in a lot of ways, one of my heroes. I listened to Sam Tripley for a long time before I finally got the balls to. To make a conspiracy show.
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D
The ball.
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E
The singular ball characters.
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F
That's not going to be, you know, that was on.
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E
We're going to be critical and, you know, tell the truth here. So. Yeah, I just want to, like. So happy that you linked up with him.
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F
Yep.
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E
So happy that you linked up with him. It is. Is an awesome show.
- [37:04]
F
The Libor scandal.
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E
The Libor scandal. Let's move on to the Libor scandal because I can't get the taste of Sam Tripley's penis out of my mouth now.
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F
So.
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E
So. So I was asking you, because there's this theme, obviously, with the parents and then the shooters, and then you're talking about the parent and then JonBenet Ramsey, and it's like, what the hell is going on? What do these people do with their kids? Can you talk about the Libor scandal a little bit?
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D
Definitely. And, well, we should definitely get into the reason why? As well, the conceptual kind of. Really, it feels like the conceptual strategic outcome of. Of sacrificing your children in this sort of.
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E
Hold on. I'm sorry. I got to interrupt him again. I do want to. I have to address this chat. I would like to ask you nicely, please. Goes on watching if this is true. I would love for you to find the moment, if this actually happened, where Tripoli is talking about. I'm not doing brogrove on Rogan's if that's true.
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D
That's recently. Go back on Rogan.
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E
I don't know. I don't know.
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D
But.
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E
But this guy's the homie. Goes on watching. And he's been saying that he remembers it, but. And I don't know if that's true. I would love to see that clip.
- [38:12]
F
This is one of those things where if you keep saying a lie, it becomes true. That kind of thing.
- [38:16]
E
All good. I hope he helps us to accomplish that. So goes on watching. Consider this my. My official asking nicely. So. So go on. I'm sorry.
- [38:24]
D
No, you're good. That's the policy. I took whenever William Ramsey suggested to me that. That you remember Edgar Madison Welch, the. The Pizzagate shooter who went into comment. Ping pong pizza. Who after just getting back from Haiti and whose father ran the production company in Hollywood known as Forever Young Productions. Right. Which is just insane, knowing the. The Haiti child trafficking connection to Laura Silsby and every other.
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E
That information is enough for me to believe him.
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D
But it was. It was that. I believe 100 man. And I think it's. It's proven. But the. The connection that he had suggested was that Edgar Madison Welch, who died, by the way, not too long ago, a couple years maybe at most. Probably not even that long. In a routine traffic stop. Right. He ends up getting shot to death by one of the. The officers on scene. And it seemed very. Just convenient. But it turns out William said Edgar Madison Welch could be the brother of Haley Welch Hawk to a girl. And I was like, dude, it would.
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F
After he told me that, I just.
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D
Took it to Tinfoil Hat. Didn't try and confirm it at all. I was like, hell, yeah, we're running with this one.
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F
You know what I mean?
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D
But I had to. It's too good. But anyway, I thought that was hilarious. And then Bonnie Blue as well, she had mentioned something in a podcast, and it drove a lot of attention at the time about how her father was actually Jimmy Savile.
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E
Wait, the. The. The Thousand Penises girl.
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D
Yes, that.
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F
Yeah, that girl.
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D
Yeah.
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E
So she had mentioned in a podcast that her father was Jimmy Savile.
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D
I just said so directly.
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F
The guest that's coming on next sent me a video saying that Joe Rogan is like Aleister Crowley and they do like an overface. I don't care what happens. I believe it.
- [40:20]
E
Well, did you see when I did an overlap, I did an overlap of Trump's face and Aleister Crowley's face, and they're perfect. And I was just like goofing around. And then after I did it, I was like, that's kind of crazy though. So, you know, I think if you lay over people's faces, but who knows? That's fascinating though.
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D
She says, right, dude, I saw the same thing with. I just saw a picture of J.D. vance overlaid with Michael Aquino.
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E
Like, I'm gonna start overlaying my face with like high profile shooters triangles. I think I'm gender inverted because I think I have a theory that like, just human faces will kind of, if you overlap them, they'll make a third face and you'll go look. And it's like, I think actually that's just what's happening here. So who knows?
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D
I do really believe there's. There's actively still to this very day, you know, well, entrenched systematic programs involving breeding experiments. And I think that this provides individual operatives with undocumented children to a certain extent as well. And this is for experimental reasons as well as abuse, as well as potentially even farming for the enterprise itself as far as organ harvesting and, and things of that nature. Because so many of the children, victims who were aging out of like the Detroit network, let's say, they would inevitably be hypnotized, taken to a club where they're sadistically abused, and then to their final destination where they're essentially murdered in the context of a snuff film to then. And usually in the fashion of an occult ritual sacrifice, which is always seemingly a part of this. And I remember the. It was the order of Abraxas, the, the. Which they call Abrasax, that specific local chapter in, in Belgium. And it was the high priestess. Yeah, exactly. And. And it was the high priestess of that order who had ordered a child. And well, they. Whenever the authorities raided their property of. Of this cult in the area, I think Charleroi or. I can't remember where it was actually. But still when they raid the property, they find jars of blood. They find right, this. This obviously what looked to be some sort of sacrificial altar. Then they have. They had linked an old abandoned mine Shaft to this network where they were taking these children to then further abuse them. They said they had underground facilities where they were then offering up subscription model abuse to, to various pedophile, you know, perpetrators who would then go and exploit the children, you know, at every level they desired. And that in itself is just like one. That is the most extraordinarily disturbing story and case that I've ever studied in my life, which is that of the Detroit case. But I will say, man.
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F
Yeah, the subscription model, right?
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E
Yeah, yeah.
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F
But you know why?
- [43:19]
E
Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, subscription models, guys, if you want.
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F
To continue to abuse, well.
- [43:29]
E
Say that it's like Christian show.
- [43:32]
F
No way. But there's a caveat.
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E
Yes. Okay, so, so it's nice if you, if you guys want to continue watching this, it'll release in its entirety in about a week. But if you want to keep watching it right now, engaging the live chat, etc. Etc. Patreon.com forward/nephilim death Squad is where you want to go. Or you can go over to Austin's YouTube page and subscribe. Don't be an asshole. Subscribe and it'll continue streaming on his page. So if you're a Patreon poor and you can't afford it because you're disgusting and you don't have the fund and whatever, whatever. We'll go on over to Austin the underclass podcast.
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F
But we are watching. We are watching. I'm watching. That number. It doesn't go up, we're going to cut it off there too.
- [44:10]
E
Yeah, 100. If that number doesn't go up, we're going to remember that you people suck. All right, guys. So yeah, I mean, subscription based abuse is what this is, right?
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D
And I promise you, I'll tell you about Libor. But just on that point, as far as the subscription model, it looks like this, this is, this applies to the wider underground pedophile network that I think is, is again, it's been very well facilitated by what I believe to be the nexus of, of this sort of coexisting, you know, strategic kind of deliberate system of, of trafficking abuse and every other thing you could imagine under the sun essentially in this depraved sort of way. And, and what you see is, is essentially there's a connection to. So North Fox island, right? Was. Was an island off the coast of Michigan that, that essentially was. Was. Was hosting human hunting parties by an individual, a prominent pedophile by the name of Francis Sheldon. And he, he inevitably, he was like a sort of an Epstein type in A way but I think even more powerful, which is why he escaped any, any sort of justice or accountability and because inevitably he is ongoing, he, he escapes the country and flies to the Netherlands where they have these very suspect pedophile laws that seem to allow for grooming and, and certain abuse to take place with underage children as long as they have parental consent. And even then the process of proving parental consent within the court system in the Netherlands is, is very difficult. One of the most difficult things you honestly, it feels like the system itself is structured for that very reason to benefit and insulate all of these prominent, you know, perpetrators from any accountability taking place. But what they were offering.
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D
And by the way, Francis Sheldon later up he resurfaces later on at some child care organization, an orphanage with little boys on his lap. So clearly he was, he was still effectively pursuing the very same, you know, depraved, sinister proclivities. But, but that was what was being offered in Padika magazine was one of the, the publications that were being utilized to advertise in the back for this pedophile industry using code words and things like that. But basically they were offering the human honey. The human, yeah, human honeypots. But the human hunting parties were being offered as a part of this subscription based model and being advertised in this way as well. And so it makes a lot of sense when that, that specific network through investigating the Oakland county child killer case, you, you discover that this is a wider Network that doesn't only, you know, suggest that this is obviously, you know, kind of isolated to this one case or this one scandal. It seems like this, this provided us with another credible window into the truly entrenched system itself. And, and, and so as you, you have the coexisting of organized crime organ, you know, syndicates just kind of running plausible deniability cutouts on behalf of the intelligence apparatus. And, and this is the way of the world. I mean, this has been happening for far too long.
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E
And because it's our speculation that, you know, they're doing subscription based child trauma crap and, you know, in underground facilities, and then that's just conspiracy theory until you find some rabbit hole that actually leads you to the conclusion that that is the case. But it's, it's, it's so rampant. We were just talking about it the other day. Amanda Bynes comes out and she goes, dan Schneider impregnated me at 13. Which is, you know, Dan Schneider being the Nickelodeon executive. And, and then when you think about that whole, I mean, that's like, you know, because we're talking about underground crap. This is happening in the surface, on the surface, right in our faces, in our entertainment. And it reminded me of that Drake Bell situation where Drake Bell was part of a documentary. I forgot what it was called, but it was all about how he was abused by like his management. Well, interestingly enough, that documentary is released in like 2024, the one about Drake Bell being abused. And Drake Bell himself is in Mexico in the previous years under a name Drake Campana, which just means Bell in Spanish, right? Which is hilarious. But the reason he flees to Mexico is because he is dealing with sexual assault charges. He's being accused of grooming and sexually abusing a minor. And this case takes place in like 2021. And he goes through the whole thing and there's a settlement. And basically the charges that he gets stuck with is like, okay, it was true, but he didn't get hit with sexual assault. Instead he got hit with some really convoluted charge, right? And it was like, if you read the charge, you'd be like, I don't even know what that actually means. And then after that whole case settles in like 2022, then two years later he comes out with a documentary and goes, but they did it. To me, it's so rampant in just, you know, Hollywood spheres, high end political spheres, anybody of influence and power. It's like, it's not a conspiracy theory. People get really weird too. They'll still say that despite having the Epstein thing, which maybe we could talk about that a little bit. Whatever the hell is going on, the developments with the Epstein files. A who A whole, you know, just constantly dangling this carrot in front of your face. But it's, if you pay attention to any of these child stars, it's, it's obvious in so many ways, in the biggest ones. So I just think that that's wild because, you know, homeboy was going through the process, getting accused of it, settles in court, and then all of a sudden comes out with a documentary about how it happened to him. I'm like, that's an unbelievable level of damage control.
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D
Oh yeah. And, and you talk about Amanda being forcefully impregnated basically at 13. Like there's, there's plenty of examples of, of throughout the networks of abuse, like Regina Loof and the ex dossier for, for the Detroit Affair, just legitimately being forced to, to perform abortions, you know, after being impregnated by abusers. And then they also, because she was kind of a generational asset of the network, her grandmother had actually kind of forced her into it from a very early age and, and allowed. Even gave a, a key to the household that Regina lived in to her abuser who would pick her up and, and trigger her altars into essentially behaving in certain submissive ways. And yeah, they, you know, it was so much worse than that, man. Just reading through the bestiality, you know, these, these young girls. Yeah, man, I mean, I'm telling you, pregnant girls who are being forcefully kind of just forced into miscarriages through the abuse. It's, it's, I'm telling you, man, it's something that you don't even want to honestly overexpose yourself to the details because it's something I'll never forget.
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You know, it's hard, man, because, you know, we talk about these things. We talked earlier about how comedy time.
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Really helps to sort of swallow the pill. But yeah, you're right, you can't look at it too much. I mean, we're talking inescapable situations in underground tunnel systems and military bases, and then we're talking about dangling it right in front of your face. Somebody in the chat said Jamie Lynn Spears. Same thing happened to Jamie Lynn Spears, Britney Spears younger sister. You look at all these people. Amanda Bynes lost her mind. Britney Spears lost her mind. These people are just destroyed from this trauma. And it's happening not only in these inescapable situations, underground, it's happening right in your face. And these people are having breakdowns and they're asking for help. And the media and the paparazzi paints them like crazy people.
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F
That's like the most bizarre part, right. That like they have, they have made an example of the people who do it and they put them on in center stage.
- [54:05]
E
Yep.
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F
And how crazy is it for everyone to see? And then there are varying levels and there are people in these like underground caves which we don't really necessarily get to see. But then there are these mid level people. And I think the columbine shooters might fall into that sort of category of this, this like mid level. We know who they are, but they're not quite celebrities. They're not. I wouldn't call them celebrities, but like they are of men of renown.
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D
Oh, man.
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E
I guess. Could you call that a. Is that a Nepo baby?
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F
What do you make of that? Like that, that sweep? Like it's like a generational sweep where it's like almost like they're telling us like, yeah, like we're so blatant with it that we can do it to every level of society.
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E
And then they go, yeah, go ahead, ask for help.
- [54:47]
F
Ask some questions.
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E
Well, they put them out there, like you said, ask for help. Go on, tell the world you need help. See how many people respond.
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D
Right? Yeah. And I think that obviously they, they were basically immortalized, the two shooters, Derek or Eric and Dylan. Right. And. And I think that you, you have to this day, you have kind of this faction of this digital avenue, which seems to be a radicalization pipeline that's been very well established and I, I think by design as well, just considering utilizing a discord. Right. How often you see that now in the modern mass shoot those or, or even just discord. Yeah, even the conversation logs and things of that nature, like with Tyler Robinson and, and his furry fetish friend Lance. Lance Twigs, who has just disappeared off the face of the earth. And, and seems probably due to the fact that they're in protective custody for the feds, is, is my opinion, because I read about. Yeah, yeah, they're in Valhalla with Charlie, man. But, but I will say that it, that it's, it's interesting to, to realize the, because the Columbine effect itself, right. Just the, the phenomenon that, that followed and, and the concept, it really introduced the concept of, of a mass shooting into the, into public consciousness really in, in many ways put it in vogue. Yeah. And, and so I just see so much of this, you know, being a perfect example of, of the kind of underhanded level of, of, let's say I, I, I explained it in my episode as, as essentially the facade of virtue. Right. That, that these authorities kind of utilize as, as a mask. Right. And, and I, I explained it as this facade of virtue drenched in moral corruption reflects the cunning nature of our unending adversary. And, and that is really my opinion in terms of the common enemy that we all do share. And, and the political partisan lens that I think is, is a major mistake that many people make on a daily basis due to their social engineering conditioning at such an effective and efficient level. But before I forget though, I got to tell you about Libor. So, so I don't. That's right, that's right.
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E
Tell us about Libor. And then I have another derailment after this, but please go ahead. Let's talk about Libor a little bit.
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D
Because that sounds good. So this was obviously a manipulation of the international finance rate at the time, which, which was very interesting. It was especially considering this happened in 2012 following the major economic crisis in the housing market of 08. Right. The major bubble pop. And, and so it seemed like there, there were, were all these various investigations that were being conducted in terms of this, the just financial industry and, and how there was obvious corruption in regard to kind of setting the stage for the economic crisis and the crash itself, but then choosing the winners and losers and the ultimate consequential outcome on the back of that very financial crisis that was kind of strategically always. We have this boom bust cycle and it's obviously we, we know if you study the creature from Jekyll island and, and you realize what the Federal Reserve has truly done to the banking system and, and in, in the US and undermining the, the value of the dollar. And all along the way while, while introducing this intellectual or intelligence cut out, I mean in terms of Bitcoin and the digital currency which is really going to lead us into the totalitarian technocratic state. Right. But so the Libor scandal, essentially you have all of these corrupt fraudulent trades that were being conducted leading up to the crash with all of these. And, and so you have significant fines for these major financial organizations at the highest level of the industry. And so there is a court case that's essentially set up in 2012. And this is very. As far as just. There's no way this is a coincidence because this is a direct connection between both fathers of Adam Lanza and James Holmes. And essentially so insane.
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By the way, when I, when I first heard of this, I was like, number one, how have I not heard about this? And number two, how could this ever, ever be presented to the public as coincidence?
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D
Exactly. And, and you know, I think most of it was essentially memory hold after they tried to kind of counteract the, the exposure of, of this specific kind of avenue of, of what was being just brought to public attention in this sort of transparent way. But it was very much just. It looked like the Mockingbird media kind of globbed on to that, that narrative in a way to misdirect the public and, and also sort of false debunking as well, which took took place at one point, which was proven to be a just legitimate lie and, and an attempt at, at kind of damage control. But, but that typically happens in these cases, so it didn't shock me at all. But they're both set to testify basically the fathers of James Holmes and Adam Lanza. Right. And this is so crazy to me because if you, if you understand who, who James Holmes family was, then you realize that he has a direct connection to his grandfather being among military intelligence, even being trained at the Monterey Language Institute, which is the same institution where Lee Harvey Oswald was trained to speak such fluent Russian before he went into the fake defector program at Atsugi Air Force Base in Japan, where he stationed with Kerry Thornley, who would then create the new age discordianism, religious occult, you know, kind of organization. And, and by the way, write a book called the Idol warriors, which predicted all of this just before JFK was assassinated, came out that very year in 63. And it documents essentially the exact same story of Lee Harvey Oswald defecting to, to the Soviet Union is essentially this, this story and, and then coming back and committing a targeted assassination on the President that was in this book called the Idol Warriors. And he was then later named by Garrison. Right, Jim Garrison, throughout the investigation of JFK's assassination as being one of the clear and obvious. What's it called when. Oh and oh, what is it called? There's a term for it. Um, whenever he was, he was, uh, it's not imposter, damn it. It's, uh, Lee Harvey Oswald had multiple people who were essentially trying to impersonator. Thank you. Oh, my God, I was losing my mind. So anyway, yeah, basically Garrison named Kerry Thornley as one of Oswald's impersonators leading up to the Dallas. Right. Assassination. And he was the one who was kind of spotted in. In, I believe, in New Orleans at a time because he worked, by the way, he worked out of Guy Bannister's office at the same time Lee Harvey Oswald did, which the intelligence connection to 544 Camp street, which was a Naval intelligence operation where they planned the assassination and where Lee Harvey Oswald would be strategically kind of put into position in. In terms of when he gets caught on camera handing out flyers for the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. And that in itself is. Is. And. And then he even does like a major media debate with a huge personality that. That was in favor of. I believe maybe he opposed Castro and, and Oswald was taking the kind of the counter points in, in attempting to debate that. I can't recall now. It could have been vice versa. But either way, you can see he's. He's a deliberate asset of the intelligence community being kind of strategically positioned before they hang him out to dry and crucify him as a patsy. And so anyway, it always blew my mind that, that, you know, you had such a direct connection to even the individual who, who incorporated the process Church of the Final Judgment in Louisiana. He. He was also directly affiliated with David Ferry, with Guy Bannister, with all the same people with Kerry Thornley. And they were all members of this kind of priesthood where they practice black magic. And they had hit. They had manuals, mind control manuals that discuss hypnotism as, as a clear and obvious, you know, just strategic method, right with the. With utilizing a perfect chemical recipe to kind of put you in that. A suggestible state and keep you in a dissociative state while they program you. I think that's what I was. I mentioned the Discord chat because I was kind of like, time is precious.
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C
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D
Just I was kind of weighing the, the conceptual idea of like a strategic intelligence operation in regard to mind control being leveraged in modern day and utilizing some of these social media even you know what chat or what is Discord's just like essentially communication, supposedly private chat.
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E
Not a private chat, but yeah. Encrypted. Is it, Is it encrypted?
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D
I don't think, I don't think so but, but who knows? I think maybe you could, you could have an encrypted private discord server. But I definitely, I was just considering the, the notion that what, what if, let's say some sort of young person who fits the perfect character profile is, is then on a short list of being a priority target and then they, they may be kind of seduce them into joining a private Discord chat server and then maybe you then have a one on one with some sort of mind manipulator, a social engineer, psychological warfare operative who's going to present you with certain videos. And at first they might not seem like there's anything you know, that's, that's potentially just let's say just as far as like the, the I don't know, criminal intent being obvious in terms of what they're attempting to do as far as the psychological manipulation aspect of it. But then you, you clearly could potentially just imagine a reality where some of the videos could, could even be layered with, with subliminal programming and then who knows what it takes to leverage or, or just tap into electromagnetic radio frequency system. I know they can do this with your phone at this point. As far as even when you have your phone turned off, when you used to be able to remove the battery, the NSA could still turn on your phone, activate it whenever they so choose to. And, and I think that that is interesting because I also imagine we should all probably try and insulate ourselves from EMF as much as possible because I definitely have read studies about how it disrupts your REM sleep, all these various things that it affects your psychological ass cancer.
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E
I'm sure.
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D
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised but, but yeah, I just kind of, I just.
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E
Want to say on that topic of like Discord and being subjected to that kind of stuff. It is like you start with an individual who probably has a record of, of trauma. Very. This kind of goes into the whole free range MK Ultra victims, things that we talk about, you know, the, the prerequisite is, is trauma. If you can get somebody who is, is, you know, traumatized and also has a, some sort of a military intelligent relative, that helps a lot because then you have an in, but you have this person. And if you can, because the, I guess the, the discord is really there to radicalize them. You know, you've got a candidate and then you're, you're remote traumatizing them. So we always use this euphemism of like, where you used to have like let's say Clockwork Orange where you strip them, you know, their, their eyeballs open and you subject them to all of this really radical media, you no longer have to do that. And in fact, if you can just pre select a traumatized individual and then funnel them into some sort of a discord group and then remotely you're just sitting there doing effectively the same thing. You're subjecting them to this thing. Partly you're, you're hoping for the straw that breaks the camel's back. If they're already, you know, a victim of childhood trauma, then there's a higher likelihood that they're on disassociative SSRIs.
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D
Exactly.
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E
So that, you know, increases the level of programmability. So that's where you're talking to them and you're implanting these ideas. So you're subjecting them to the, the radicalizing imagery. You're feeding them these narratives to which they're highly susceptible because of the disassociative SSRIs. And they're already a traumatized individual, so they're kind of on the cusp of something. Then all you have to do is just do one of those kind of honeypot operations where you, you figure out how to get a gun in their hand, you know what I mean? One way or another. And it's a well oiled machine works. Works super good.
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D
Oh, no doubt. And I think, and also, yeah, I.
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E
Realized they were doing that to me on timeline cleanse. That's what the chat was doing. I don't know how much of the chat was actually working for the feds, but they were just subjecting me gore videos all the time. And it's like, so you don't need that, that room with the tv. I mean the Internet is a never ending source of gore and trauma and that's not a problem. You can get your hands on that pretty easily. So yeah, I think it's all done.
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D
That way now definitely. And, but as far as just James Holmes father, I do think it's, it's still important to at least provide the details. As far as the connection there to live Libor. And it was Dr. Robert Holmes, all right, he receives a PhD in statistics in 81 from Berkeley University of California Berkeley. And then he gets a job at the San Diego based HNC Software and Corporation. Right? And this is from 2000 to 2002 when he was apparently running this neural network company in, in DARPA, even beginning in 98, worked alongside this, this specific agency developing quadronic neural networks which would allow MA to interpret oral and visual stimuli to think like humans. So we are, we already have a kind of a strange connection to what seems like sort of transhumanism in a way. But definitely as far as programming there's, there's an insane connection to the, this DARPA program that essentially was, was trying to create uh, the perfect soldier. Right? And uh, it's, it's very strange because uh, I'm trying to, trying to recall the name of the actual program because it, that in itself was kind of, you know, very straightforward and in your face and, and you know, brazen in terms of what they were truly attempting to achieve. But, but I will say that that alone is, is fascinating. And then you have this quadronic concept being developed by HNC Software's chief scientist and co founder Robert Hecht Nielsen. And so HNC then merges with this Minneapolis based Fair Isaac Corporation, which would be fico. So this is very interesting because this is a computer analysis and decision making company. But it's very obviously if you understand the FICO score connection to just the individual citizens financial score and, and as far as their debt debt and, and things of that nature being considered and, and in terms of receiving loans and things of that nature. Right. Obviously your FICO score matters and so it, it directly affects the average individual as far as how they're, they're, you know, they're able to engage within the financial system itself. And so then you have emerging with as far as Holmes when he was 20, just James Holmes. He worked as a camp counselor at Camp Max Strauss of the Jewish Big Brothers and Sisters of Los Angeles. And he apparently even this is according to the Jewish Journal. Among other tasks, Holmes helped to teach boys between the ages of 7 to 10 in archery. This is very interesting to me because he later would be a part of the, the DARPA program which I had had mentioned. His father was obviously working alongside DARPA for quite some time before any of this actually took place. But so James Holmes also happens to be the grandson of Lieutenant colonel Robert Holmes who is one of the first Turkish language graduates of the Army Language School later becoming the Defense Language Institute in Monterey California. As I mentioned about the Lee Harvey Oswald connection, but you have graduating from the Turkish language class in 1948, the grandfather Robert Holmes spent a career in the army which included more than a few intelligence related assignments as well. So typically you would have apparently these military intelligence officers, they would be very well uh, at least fluent in, in Turkish and served uh, he, he served with both the Defense Intelligence Agency and the Central Intelligence Agency at the U. S. Embassy in Ankara or the Consulate General and Istanbul apparently. So this is his grandfather. And so then you have this, this individual at the Salk Institute named Terrence Sejnowski. And uh, it looks like because you have uh, James Holmes studying at this, this institute right this uh, Salk Institute which has, they run all these DARPA programs. And so it looks like when he is, is studying at the Salk Institute, the director was running a computational neurobiology laboratory and he was, he was involved with. And so it looks like you also have an interview with the Cognitive Science online in, in 2008 and they, they made a comment about recent studies of the human brain. And so this cognitive psychology researcher at the intelligence community linked RAND Corporation which has a strong footprint in Laurel Canyon. I remember when I covered that actually they're, they're very geographically close to that of the Lookout Mountain Laboratory which I think obviously thousands of Hollywood films were produced there. I honestly believe that was the location the moon landing was, was filmed at as well. And there was actually whistleblowers one, one of the. So whenever Lookout Mountain Laboratory was sold privately and out from under the kind of intelligence or control of, of the, the property itself, it went into private ownership. And the individual who, who claimed the property blew the whistle saying that he found leftover basically production equipment for the moon landing on one of the stages and, and Lookout Mount laboratory which I did find interesting. But anyway, I know but yeah, anyway the last point with, with James Holmes here is, is that uh, you had uh, there was artificial intelligence being very much uh, you know, pursued as a part of this uh, DARPA program that he was involved with at the Salk Institute.
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D
And so it does seem like yeah, they, they definitely learned how to. Because this was the man. Let me. Let me pull the. Because Anchor's Medical center right where where he was also working at the medical campus in Denver. This is where he was studying when he was actually receiving all of the. The. The ammunition and the, the various bombs that he would set up in his apartment and things of that nature. And this is a campus and no red flags were raised. No one, you know, called this into concern in any real way. It's just strange that this was obviously conducted under the nose of the authorities involved on this campus. And, and yeah, nothing nothing was really came of that in any real way either. But but yeah, so anyway, it's, it's fascinating to see that you have these ridiculous connections to. To James Holmes grandfather who, who also was was very much I think involved in the path of his father of James Holmes father. And so the, the LIBOR connection really comes in the form of. Of because if you remember the, so the James Holmes Aurora massacre, the shooting at the. At the cinema 16, it looks like that all happened within a couple of months of. Of Sandy Hook would would come just directly after that event. And so that alone is. Is fascinating to me. It was December 14, 2012 when Sandy Hook happened. And and so it makes. It's just kind of the timing of. It is very very much uh, such aspect in my mind.
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E
But not just the timing right Austin, but the, the. The magnitude as far as cultural impact goes.
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D
Oh, no doubt. Yes. And and also, I mean I, I talked to this individual. His name's J.J. vance. He does a show called Operation GCD. He's a super interesting guy. He was like a private investigator for a time and he had apparently gone through some sort of course at Sandy Hook High School. And I was talking to him about this the other day and I asked him because I've been under the impression for a long time that that was not an operating elementary school at the time whenever the, the actual mass shooting event took place. And, and it's very interesting to actually see how the parking lot was clearly not in. In in any way was it. Was it structured or at least like. I believe it wasn't staged as if it was an active parking lot right then.
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E
And so you had totally overgrown and unkept and.
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D
Right.
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E
Wasn't that like the whole. It was in a state of kind of like not dilapidation but it was, it wasn't being taken care of. Didn't look active.
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D
Right? Exactly. And yeah, it was I think just seeing both fathers expect expected to testify in the LIBOR scandal. It was set for June of 2008 and that's the exact month that obviously Aurora happens. And so they no longer testified at the libor. Yeah, so I mean as far as the court case itself, it was essentially just undermined in, in broad daylight and no one, nothing really came of it except for a few, there were only a handful of low level financial kind of. Well, it was members of a few different financial companies that were involved in the market crash that effectively had, they did a little prison time for insider trading, but that was it. And so you, you really had no, no legal consequences in regard to this. And, and so Adam Lanza's father, Peter Lanza, he was the VP and, and tax director at GE Financial and the father of James Holmes. Robert Holmes was the lead scientist for the credit score company fico as I mentioned. Now both of them are set to testify before the U S. Senate in the ongoing Libor scandal in 2012 in June. And so this is when I think it's important to understand that what LIBOR is really, I, I had mentioned it's rigging in the international interest rate. But so Libor was for a time I think they, they changed it. Now I believe the standard has shifted. I forget what the new they, they called it something different now. So it's no longer Libor as, as the effective standard in terms of, of, of managing the financial industry internationally. And so this is how I, I believe many of these, the Western alliance countries who control the banking system, this is, this is what you do. It's the confessions of an economic hitman just kind of coming to fruition. And, and so yeah, I think seeing this and then understanding that, that Libor is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. That alone. Right. Is a major implication as far as just kind of controlling and manipulating, you know, international finance. And so you have 16 international banks which were implicated in this scandal. They were accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. And HSBC which was the company that, that Robert Holmes worked for had was already fined 1.9 billion and 3 of their low level traders were arrested. So that was the extent of the accountability. And, and yeah, Robert Holmes and Peter Lanza just escaped any, any sort of public. Let's say they definitely didn't actually in any way, you know, have to, to testify publicly or, or Also even make a statement which is just in itself. How is, how does that come to pass? You know, so what, what do we.
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E
I mean it looks like then time.
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E
This is the trade.
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D
It feels like it, it feels like there's, there's also. And I wonder because if, if you're. Is it was. Was it a green light sacrifice their children to, to manipulate them and control them in, in the context of, of exposing the scandal or was it you know, James Holmes or Robert Holmes and Peter Lanza were actively a part of this, this very network that we speak on in terms of the underlying power cabal who are running these domestic operations in, in a clandestine way. And, and are they kind of willing and able which I see so often.
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E
What I'm. Well that's what I'm leaning towards. And the reason is, is because how long it takes like you have to have this history of like trauma and disassociative substances and you know what I mean, it's not like you could just do this to any person. They have to be a candidate for. You know, there's a, there's a selection process for a reason. There's programs like whatever the gifted and talented programs or there's you know, processes that you know, these MK Ultra programs or their subsidiary, subsidiary programs put you through. There's a process, it's an entire thing. It's not just like you can pluck any rando off the streets. So I mean given their, their how would you say this the magnitude of the things that they were involved in. And I would imagine that this is a process that those kids, their kids were groomed for.
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D
Yes I do. I definitely believe this. And you mentioned the gifted program. Well, Dylan Klebold happened to be a member of the CHIPS program which is very strange.
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E
Straight into your.
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D
Oh, and that by the way, it was like nanobots and even nanobot particles are allegedly a part of this, this program actively in modern day where, where they can introduce this into your system and then kind of remotely trigger you as a Manchurian Candidate of some kind. And, and that makes a lot more sense to me, especially after I. I researched that. Of. Was it Dr. Robert Duncan, I believe his name was. And I think I mentioned this, this to you guys once before because of how fascinating and extraordinary the connection is to modern Manchurian candidates. And, and this never, never seemingly, you know, being halted as, as far as the. The. Yeah. The COVID operational standpoint of things. It seems like with the vast majority of these programs that have been publicly exposed with this false sense of transparency. I mean, we. We've pointed to that of the church committee hearings and allegedly Frank Church. Church was sexually blackmailed by Claudia Mullen and, And which was a child human honeypot created by the intelligence apparatus and trained at a. At a remote location in. In the woods where with what she claimed to have been 70 other young child victims who were all conditioned into how they could sexually please an adult while also kind of pulling in information from them in this kind of, uh, yeah, deliberate, uh, deceptive way. And so it does look as if this has been long standing, you know, and, and there's no way that's my thing is.
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E
So Uncle Ted here, which is a great username, says, and all of them were in therapy before, meaning the. The two boys were in therapy before. I'd be interested if you can go back and track the careers of their fathers. Which one came first? Did their. The birth of their children come first or were they successful and then their children were born? Because a lot of this, what seems to be therapy, the rapist, the therapist, is actually like a selection process. You know, we talked to William Ramsey not long ago, and it was like on this kind of Manchurian Candidate. And we talked about the film. I think it was just called like, Manchurian Candidate or something like that. And you can see that when these programs were developed is around the same time that we start to initiate these, you know, medical health professionals, when we start to create, you know, professions like therapists and psychologists, and we start prescribing SSRIs. But the way he frames it, it looks like a lot of them were. They worked in tandem with these programs, and they were meant to be sort of the selectors. They were out there putting the feelers out, knowingly or unknowingly, to try to find who would be a good fit for these, you know, these intelligence operations where they're trying to disassociate and program individuals. And so it's like, what happened? Did you have a kid? Did you get tied up in a. In a In a therapy program with your kid, did somebody eventually come to you and go, they're a good candidate for xyz? And then did eventually something happen where you were given a way to success if your kids were allowed to be rolled into this program? Something to that effect, I suspect, is what actually took place.
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D
Absolutely. I think it's kind of proven through the lens of, of Wayne Harris, Eric Harris's father, because the, I mean, that is where the Plattsburgh connection comes into play. But, but also it's. It's important to understand that, you know, a lot of Eric's background was kind of strategically memory hold in a way. And I think it's because it was far too convenient to, to in terms of just obviously just forcing the official narrative to kind of. Of disintegrate before your eyes and fall apart in every way. And I think that just understanding where, where Eric or Wayne Harris kind of comes into play as far as he. He was. He was involved with military intelligence. Right? And. And I think that in itself is very important because he, he obviously was. It was Wayne and Kathy Harris were, were his parents. And, uh, he had a brother as well that was like three years older than him. But Wayne, his father had spent the vast majority of his life basically as a pilot, right. For the Air Force and, and running these transport planes. And so he's stationed at like eight different bases throughout his, his military career. He starts out in Kansas, he goes to Ohio and Michigan and New York. And all of those locations, I think, perfectly represent the geographical footprint of, of the networks that he very well could have been affiliated with in terms of just. I, I think he had far more of a role to play in the lead up to 911 than people would understand. And that's why the Flight Safety Services Corporation connection is, is very important. But he was allegedly forced into retirement due to cutbacks in the military budget. And, and he's stationed at Plattsburgh Air Force Base. And this is in upstate New York. And in 1993 he served, I believe, after serving 20 years in the military. Right. This is when the family moves to Jefferson county, where he. He got the job in. In Colorado at Flight Safety Services Corporation in Inglewood, which is where he was from. Actually. He grew up there. So that in itself, Littleton. Littleton is like a. It's been described as a safe community. Right. Which I thought was interesting itself as far as how these clandestine operations are truly greenlit in these various locations. I think they have to have a sort of a vital footprint in that area. To, to allow the facilitation of the clandestine operation to, to basically be efficiently conducted and, and also have the individual assets in place to misdirect the public whenever they're. They're poking holes in that official narrative, which is. Is. Is clearly expected if you're, if you're attempting to run some sort of. I explained it as what looks to me like a modern gladio operation in, in many ways utilizing the strategy of tension. Right. Not only to effectively, you know, lay the groundwork to influence the general public, to basically support anti gun legislation. And, and I think that, that, that was pivotal. And as far as many of these mass shootings, because there are layered agendas playing out and, and they will always kind of fully exploit those avenues, in my opinion, and, and push further the agenda into a dystopian direction, which is always the goal. And so he gets this job at Flight Safety Services Corporation. But it, it's interesting because Wayne, it's. It's very strange as far as the entire family is described as being essentially like the picture perfect family, right, by some of the neighbors. But many of the witness testimonies come from members of the military who were stationed with him at Plattsburgh during the time. And, and I also think it's very strange that Plattsburgh, while they were even still stationed there, was basically shut down as a mill, as an active military base. And so that makes a lot more sense because it has an 18 layer subterranean bunker system at the facility, which is where I believe a lot of the, you know, behavioral modification experimentation took place, according to some of the whistleblowers who were a part of the programs. You had scientists who came out and claimed to be ethically opposed to what was being conducted in those subterranean levels of, of the Plattsburgh military base, which again, makes a lot of sense. But, but I will say that you had members of like Eric's former friends because he, he was even a part of like the Plattsburgh Little Little League team at like 12 years old, I believe. And, and one of the friends said after the shooting that grew up with him that his mouth just dropped. Right? He was a typical kid. He didn't seem anything like what is portrayed on tv, which is strange. But you also have additional connections to witnesses who claim to have been a part of the experimentation with. With Eric and that he had even made a statement before, prior to them moving to Littleton, that, that he had. He was tired of. Of the kind of enduring such. Such just extraordinary levels of. Of experimentation at a points Where I believe he was even sexually abused potentially by one of the scientists who were conducting this. But so it looks like time is.
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E
Wayne Harris, his friends didn't pick up on it. We're talking a sophisticated version of creating that secondary programmable personality, right? Because it's like they're not even seeing him as, as they just see him as a normal kid. So it's jaw dropping like you said, for them to have seen what it all came to be. So this is like they've really segmented and created this programmable personality because that's what happens in the disassociative state is that this secondary programmable personality emerges. And then ideally, you know, if you want to do like a patsy or you want to do like a Manchurian Candidate, you keep them separate. And so to his friends, he doesn't even look any different. He looks just like a normal kid.
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D
And I think there was a very unique brand of programming that we've seen too, too often as far as the character profiles of these, these mass shooters and, and that, that involves like this strange sort of like Aryan neo Nazi ideology that they kind of attach to it, which is very interesting. And it comes back up in terms of the Star Chamber and the leadership that were wearing Nazi uniforms while they were abusing children in a breeding experiment, but also choosing which children they would, they would tap for future leadership in, in the White Eagle Underground, which we'll get to which, which basically the, the point being is that it was genealogical. That as far as like the genealogy of the individual is, is how they would go through the process in deciding and choosing. You would become a future leader of the White Eagle Underground and, and be a member potentially of the Star Chamber, which is the upper echelon and leadership faction of the organization itself. But anyway, that plays into it. But, but what were they looking for, Janet? Medically? Yeah, See, that's the strange part. Even, even the mother, who, who her name was Belinda Schultz, she I believe was, was strategically targeted due to her genealogical background by the cult Itself which it was described within police documents as being a cult, but they said a cult filled with rogue intelligence operatives, which in my opinion, and they. They even say in international as well. So Russian. There was some russian influence, but this was far more considered to be rogue intelligence officials from the u. S. Military intelligence apparatus that had gone rogue and were running this network. This is through the lens, though, of a local. A local investigator who I believe was far in, far too over his head, essentially. He was. He was. He was in over his head. He wasn't quite understanding the scope. Scope of this network that he had stumbled upon. And therefore he's trying to make sense of this in. In his. In his internal documents that he's recording. Right. The. The criminal witness accounts or just the witness accounts as well. But yeah, I'll talk about that right after I. I discussed plattsburgh just to finish that point of the mind control nature of. Of what truly could have happened to eric harris because again, his father, decorated air force, you know, officer, and. And later on even was apparently considered very exceptional and as far as his leadership capabilities and was trusted by the u. S. Air force with some of its most highly classified projects, including the B1 bomber and its newest electronic warfare aircraft that was being used over kosovo at the time. And so that all was. Was interesting as well. But Dylan klebold's mother, she. Her name is sue klebold, and she claimed that she was told military documents on brainwashing techniques, otherwise known as mind control manuals had been discovered in the harris family home. So that already implicates the. The possibility that the father had already been a kind of, let's say, trained in some of these sophisticated methods of psychological programming and mind control manipulation. And so it does look like he was potentially really trained in that. In that behavioral modification program when. When he was at the military base in plattsburgh or before that even, I believe it was. I'm trying to remember now, which military base it was that he was connected to directly and potentially being trained in the behavioral modification program. But again, this was more. It was more or less not entirely substantiated, let's say. Right. But it was still allegations that. That caught my attention directly because it seems to reinforce the. The narrative that I believe there's plenty of credible evidence to point to. And so, yeah, it's. She claimed specifically when she talked to the guardian as recent as 2016. Right. That basically we'd heard a rumor that military training materials on brainwashing techniques had been found in nurse's home which obviously she claimed had refueled her and her husband's belief that Dylan had been just another victim of the Columbine massacre. And, and it kind of makes sense because I talked to a few different Columbine students who allegedly were. Were at the school whenever this took place. And from their accounts, Dylan and Eric, they like Eric, shifted in personality just before the event kind of was triggered. But for the most part, they were all described as just regular kids that in no way seem to. To be capable of such, you know, just, just such extraordinary levels of violence. Right. And, and that's what I think potentially after going through some of it and reading what feels like was perfectly concocted FBI as far as, like the FBI's writer room, it feels like this is fan fiction at a certain level, and it perfectly reinforces the official narrative. And so because I feel like Dylan and Eric were far more likely to have been in this sort of dream state where they felt like they were, you know, engaging in a video game. And that seems to be almost the psychological, let's say, just the position that many of these Manchurian victims, while they're in this dissociative state, find themselves in this kind of dream state. So none of it feels real. And, and as much as they created the, the WAD levels which were diagrams of the school which were on Doom, right, Like Doom WAD levels. They played Quake and stuff like that. It felt like that could easily be some sort of Sirhan Sirhan reinforcing the programming at a real additional layer to where you're actively walking through the school in a video game committing this violence and let alone the. The Columbine tapes and the Hitman for Hire, where they're filming from their production. Film production class. Eric and Dylan have a camera from their class at Columbine in the school where they're filming each other as hitmen for hire and black trench coats who. A bullied kid at the school who's one of their friends. I think it was Chris Morris who played the bullied kid in the. In the actual video, Hitman for Hire is trying to hire. Is trying to hire Dylan and Eric to kill one of the bullies at the school. And so he asked him how he wants to do it. How do you want to. How do you want to. How do you want us to actually effectively, you know, kill this. This target? And he. He requests a bombing, right? And, and that alone was. Was very interesting because it's leading up to the event. And, and also there's clearly direct connections to FBI. The son of the FBI investigator who led the investigation into Columbine produced that. That video with Eric and Dylan, which ultimately led to them committing a shooting in the school. And also at the end, it concludes with the entire school blowing up and being destroyed, which was allegedly the goal.
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That's so. So we. We talked to. Because there's just like, so many layers of programming to this. We talked to Tom Althouse, who was the original creator of the Matrix and before. What are the ladies. Yeah, respect their genders, please. Basically stole his idea. And he talks about to what extent the FBI was interested in his works and all these things.
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Like, stole their ideas is kind of not the correct term. It was more like the agency got hold of the script or this is how the story goes. They liked it. They wanted something with it. But they realized Tom wasn't the guy that was gonna. You know, he's creative, so he's not gonna play around with whatever they wanted.
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Because they did want to change a lot about it.
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So they had the Wachowski brothers come in, and these were just the guys.
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That were gonna do Don't Dead name them. But that's so.
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I'm sorry.
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Yeah. Geez, man. But one of the things that he talks about was how strange it was to watch his own creation go on and become sort of like the inspiration for a lot of really horrifying things. Well, the trench coat and. And its utilization within these mass shootings.
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That scene. Yeah.
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And that was the Wachowski brothers that did it. Because he was like, they. He was like. We were like, tom, were they supposed to look dumb? And he's like, no, dude, they were never supposed to look dumb. Like, they weren't supposed to wear trench coats and shit. That was something that. But the Kowski or the Wachowski brothers put in.
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It's a very interesting wrinkle to put in because that. That scene when, you know, they ask him. They're like, you have any weapons? And he's just. Yeah, with the trench coats. And that's so.
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But it's.
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It was never supposed to be there. And it's like.
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And then it becomes like the costume for school shooters.
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Absolutely. Yeah. That is fascinating. I think the. You know, it's kind of the revelation of the Method, in a way, and in terms of how they utilize Hollywood propaganda to. To reinforce a lot of the, you know, agenda items that they hope the subconscious minds of the general public will embrace. And. And that's what. That's what I find so interesting about. About the kind of Conditioning through Hollywood that is so effective. Right. And and I do see just as far as the Trench Coat Mafia and that's the direct, in as far as the direct connection, I I believe it was a local network of, of essentially having an avenue to procure child assets or young, younger assets that, that they could then kind of have. Yeah, just, just gain easier access to these, these specific character profiles that would fit for, for the strategic operation that you're hoping to pursue. And it looks like the Trench Coat Mafia was dabbling in occultism. I believe certain factions of the Trench Coat Mafia were far more violent. At least you know, romanticized, you know, kind of violent radical action as, as a solution of some kind to just kind of, I think accelerate in, in many ways you see the accelerationist philosophy play into it, which, which really plagues the modern mass shooter in a way, which is the fact that. Awesome sounds good, but it's a fact that basically time is precious and so are our pets.
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D
It's just interesting to me because it looks like the Trench Coat Mafia was, was once again they, they were effectively holding initiatory blood rituals where, where they were forcing some of the individuals who were attempting to become initiated within the Trenchcoat Mafia. And according to one of the child or children witnesses who were basically interviewed by an investigator in El Paso county, which is nearby Columbine in Littleton, he, he knew Eric and Dylan and had seen them at a couple of Trench Coat Mafia parties at a few different houses. One of which was, was known to have been in front of a school and, and, and near a park. So I found that interesting as well. Just as far as the, the operational standpoint of, of pursuing an avenue to, to you know, once again find yourself in a place where you will be overexposed to children in this way. And but yeah, it's, it's, it's crazy because it looks like they were actually having them slice themselves like cut their, their forearms and they would have to shed blood as if they believed that they were modern day vampires. Allegedly is is what they claimed. And that this was in some sort of sense, which by the way, it made me think that I had read somewhere recently that basically in. Involved in the layered programming of mind control, they. They will strategically place these fail safes in, in terms of the programming because obviously there's a shelf life, allegedly. And as far as the programming is concerned and, and if it's not reinforced at certain pivotal moments, then you will wake up to your programming, allegedly. And this makes a lot of sense in terms of the Manchurian Candidate film because if you remember, obviously they, they had, they had, they had positioned Raymond Shaw who was, who was obviously the main character who had gone through some sort of sexual trauma with, with a strange Oedipus complex with his mother. Angela Lansbury's character, who's. This is obviously, you know, a prominent aristocratic sort of dynastic family that is implementing a coup in real time. And it seems like what, what is interesting to me more than any of it is is basically that whenever he's triggered at the bar, he's sitting there at the bar and he gets a phone call and they ask, is this Raymond Shaw? And, and once he, he confirms that it is, they. They trigger his first layer of programming by suggesting you should pass the time by playing a game of solitaire layer. And so instantly that layer is triggered. And then as he witnesses the queen of diamonds, the first queen of diamonds he sees triggers the secondary layer of programming. And then as he sees the next, at least two, I think queen of diamonds, I believe it was then he, he, he instantly is, is in such a suggestible dissociative state that he, he's not even present. He doesn't even recognize and acknowledge Frank Sinatra's character when he walks into the bar. And then once he sees the, the queen of Car, you know, the, the, the card of, of the queen of diamonds again, he leaves the bar and goes straight to the lake and jumps in the lake and fully submerges himself, not knowing as to why when he wakes up, he had no knowledge as to how he got there. And that in itself makes sense as far as how you would, you know, trigger a Manchurian and that this, this, this sense. But yeah, it looks like as far as just these very reliable claims coming from the Plattsburgh Air Force Base where Harris's family was located at the time, claimed that by the age of 10, Harris was drafted into these behavioral modification programs underway there. And basically, were you, were you saying.
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That the, were you part of these programs?
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The cutting, the cutting was, was part of the trigger mechanism or do you think?
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D
Yes. Yeah, that was the point I was going to make was, was essentially what the individuals cutting themselves would help trigger them back into their dissociative state and they would they would reject essentially these returning memories, which is very interesting how how this would provide them with this subconscious kind of misdirection where they had no ability as soon as they committed self harm in that way. And it would trigger that layer of reinforcing the programming. And so that that in itself was. Was fascinating to me just as far as seeing the connection directly to that of the. The higher as far as just the. The more exclusive membership of the Trench Coat Mafia, which were obviously, you know, only the initiated who went through the blood ritual would actually be a part of the. The leadership of the Trench Coat Mafia. So that in itself is fascinating to me as well as the level of connections to the blackjack pizza restaurant that they were working at at the time, which again I had mentioned the subway shop murders that happened 10 months after Columbine because there was an investigation where all of these allegations were being made that it was. It was the hub of a drug trafficking operation that was flooding drugs into into the area. And so if the subway shop that's just two miles from Columbine is is effectively implicated as as being one of the strategic hubs of this network, then how could we not imagine the blackjack pizza restaurant that they worked at where the the owner actually blew up dry ice bombs in the bathroom and and they in no way were were raising red flags for for the boys as as they were clearly, you know, kind of they were engaging in some very strange experiments behind the blackjack pizza as well. And they had this fascination with fireworks where they would. They would host these firework displays on top of the roof and and one of the owners was would take his daughter there apparently. But very strange, but I will say I didn't Unfortunately I haven't gotten to. Dude. I think it's so critical to actually discuss the the layered operational standpoint of what was being cond in terms of Blackjack pizza. And then the wider network of the the Brotherhood of the White Temple and the White Eagle Underground. All of this matters. And I also think they they were conditioning the children for years ahead of time at Columbine specifically which who knows. It could Columbine could be a strategic operational.
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E
The, the. The shooters or just the the general.
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D
The general population of the school. So not only was there a death education program which had been implemented at the school even.
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E
Education program.
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F
Okay, Austin, what The. This is what happens every time we. Every time we talk to him. And it's not your fault. This is our fault.
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E
Death education.
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F
We catch up with Austin.
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E
Yeah.
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F
For 30 minutes. Then we tell him to tell us about everything else that he knows.
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D
Yeah.
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E
And he knows that.
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F
Then we ask him to tell us about the topic, and then we end up doing a part two, and then we derail.
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D
Can we do a part two, please?
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This I don't know if we could do this coming week, because Thanksgiving's coming up.
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F
Because with this episode we've covered. I mean, you had to cover the LIBOR scandal in order to really properly explain just the first part of the Columbine. The Columbine massacre. And now we have to go into this next part dealing with.
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E
I have different societies. I have this stuff pulled up about Madeleine McCain, the little girl who went missing in. In Portugal, and how Ghislaine Maxwell seems to like, fit the image of the person that allegedly kidnapped her and all this different stuff. And Austin is really the only person that I care to. Because I don't really. I'm to the point. I don't give a shit about Epstein unless I'm hearing somebody that I actually trust has done research and understands it. And I wanted to go down that we have to do a part two. Yeah, we have to do a part two. Look, Austin, we have another guest coming in really soon, so unfortunately, we have to prematurely end this one. I don't know if I should ask you for your plugs.
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D
Hey, I'll keep it.
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E
Sure.
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D
I'll keep it short, I promise. There. But it was hilarious, though, because I had intended on. On dropping a bomb to start the episode in terms of this John Wayne Gacy connection that I discovered that just fell into my lap recently in the past few days, because I had come on prior to this and talked to you guys about obviously, serial killers just fundamentally disappearing around the same time. Mass shooters just happen to surface and. And create this new cultural phenomena. But. But it's fascinating to me because I mentioned John Wayne Gacy being this kind of also fall guy. Patsy cut out for the. The wider network to essentially take the fall. And, you know, I believe he kidnapped Johnny. Gosh. The. The paperboy fetish was essentially ordered through him in a certain way. But then also, here's the craziest part. And then I'll drop it and I'll let you guys go show. It's basically that John Wayne Gacy, his first victim. So you guys remember Paul Benassi, right? He was the Franklin scandal victim who's got on the record about Michael Aquino. He was a victim of Lawrence E. King of the Franklin Omaha, you know, credit union scandal. And. And basically he was even at the foundation of nambla, right. The North American Man Boy Love association with members of the Catholic clergy in Boston, Massachusetts. But it turns out that. That he. He claimed that he was well aware that John Wayne Gacy potentially abducted Johnny. Gosh. But then what I also found out, and this is. There's no way this is coincidental. It looks like Paul Benassi's mother. So the very first victim of John Wayne Gacy was a kid by the name of Tim McCoy. That was. That was Paul Benassi's stepbrother. What? Dude, this is like.
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E
This gets into the serial killer thing and like. What? Yes. Oh, my God, bro.
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D
I know, man. It's insane. So, yeah, anyway, when we end this.
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E
Go into our calendly and find a soon open date. Please don't. Don't ask us. Just go in there, find one.
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F
Like I told you, like, he always asks. He's like, hey, I got something.
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E
Stop asking us. You just. You like, are one of the few people just get schedule yourself.
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D
Yeah.
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F
Nobody else do that.
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E
Don't. No. Nobody else do that.
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D
Yeah, no, dude. Okay, I'll. I'll leave you guys with just the fact that I appreciate you so much and. And I can't thank you guys enough, man. I'm so grateful that. That I have these opportunities that you guys let me on to have these conversations and that you're willing to let me go a little schizo occasionally. And I apologize for that. But I think it's. It's.
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E
At least I like it.
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D
It's a good time, right? I mean, but. But yeah, it's nothing but love on this end, you guys. And. And I appreciate you, you know, just so you're aware.
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F
Yo, listen, Austin, I feel like one.
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E
Of our favorite people.
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F
Yeah. But in. In the last couple of months, we've been so busy, like, doing the studio, I feel like the show has been moving not necessarily in another direction, but we've been doing like, we've been doing a lot of biblical stuff, a lot of Bible studies. Like. Like, I guess I've been solidifying my relationship with God and that thing there. We've gotten away from that commute. I mean, after the whole Tower gang thing and all this stuff, I've gotten away from that community that I really like. So, like, if we haven't been as present on Twitter or whatever, it's not because we're like. We're just like, we're spread 15 different ways, but we're building. We're building, and we want to bring you guys along. We're gonna bring you guys along with us.
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E
Well, yeah, I mean, that's a.
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D
We're.
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E
We talked about in the last episode we were with you on. We're doing Bohemian Groove.
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F
Bear with us in this time of. Yeah.
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E
First Friday and Saturday of March. I hope you're here, and I hope you're here for the VIP day. I hope you're here for the performance day. I know our audience loves you, and they're gonna want to see you and touch you and harass you in real life.
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D
I'll be there, man. Man, just tell me the date and I'll. I'll be there for sure.
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E
That's it, man. Well, like I said, first Friday and Saturday in March. We'll be seeing you soon, dude. Yeah, man.
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F
And guys, once again, like I always say, go to. Go to Austin's YouTube page. Follow him there. Go to his. Where I have this right here.
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D
Here we go.
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F
Go to his Patreon as well. Please support him there. So that way, you know, when you. When you support creators, they're able to do a little bit more creating rather than, you know, the ins and outs of life. And we appreciate you guys for doing that, so thank you for supporting us. But go support him, too, because this guy's actually, like, doing real, real work stuff that we could. We can piggyback off.
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D
Man. Yeah, what you guys are doing, it. It honestly inspires me, man, and, And I just appreciate, you know, having this relationship with you guys. I think the dynamic is. Is very special and valuable and, and, yeah, people are desperate, man, just to feel like, not represented, but at a certain level, to have your ideas represented, I think, and, And. And coming from, you know, a truly, just genuinely ethical standpoint, I think where you. You have. Have the best of intentions. So that's what I respect and admire the most out of you guys. Your drive and. And willingness to. To just grow. You know, it's like if you're not attempting to grow every day at every level of who you are as a person, you're going to be taking steps back. That's just, I think, the way the world is. It's how it happens. And so you have to be actively reflecting on who you are and who you hope to become. So, yeah, nothing but love, brother. Appreciate you guys.
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F
Amen, brother. Guys, we'll see you in a couple of minutes. Until then, don't forget to obey. Submit and comply. Goodbye.
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D
Sa.