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The Divine Feminine and Alien Abductions w/ Fringe
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The Divine Feminine isn’t what you think — and it may be the most dangerous deception in modern UFO disclosure. In this gripping episode of Nephilim Death Squad, we’re joined by Fringe for a firsthand, testimony-driven breakdown of alien abductions,...
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I can't believe they're having a gender reveal for their dog.
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This is a breed reveal. Oh. So, yeah, they're finding out the breed of the puppy they're rescuing.
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They never went away. They're still here today.
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Squad, nebulum death squad. Death squad. That's fun. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, aka the Raven, that is Top Lobster, aka Mr. Nasty. Before we get into today's show, a little reminder, a place you can Support us is patreon.com/now/ephilim Death Squad. Sign up for whatever tier you'd like. You'll gain early access to episodes, unedited versions as well as.
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Well, is this one coming out or is this going to be behind the payroll in perpetuity?
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Are we gonna. Oh, you're talking about that one that's on the screen right there. I guess we gotta rush that one. A lot of the Patreon members would have saw that.
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No, no, no, because I'm not gonna do what he says.
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You want to build suspense?
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No, I just don't like that he said we're not gonna release it. So maybe we won't now.
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Maybe we'll never release it. Well, I don't know. I don't think he wants us to release it now. Anyway, guys, go to patreon.com that's a great place to support us. Forward Slash Nephilim Death Squad. Also discount codes off of merchandise and top lobster dot com.
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That's right. New T shirt there.
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Oh, I love that one. Show that off. That's a dope one. That was a great idea. And you're. You're fast on the trigger, dude.
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Yeah, there you go.
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It's the Epstein list. I like that. All the, all the points are numbered 33.
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Why not? Yeah, why not? We'll see who's gonna wear this in public. That's always a fun dare, guys. Follow us on Facebook, follow us on Instagram, follow us on audio. Give us a five star review.
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That would be nice. We never asked for that. No, no, now we're after it. Now guys, please give us a five star review. That would be massively helpful. So yesterday we had this discussion with Timothy Alberino. A lot of people on the Patreon would have seen that. And it was a little bit hard to get any points across. I don't know. It was, it was, it was. There was a lot of words being thrown around, not a lot of points being made. And we're really. It's an important topic to us here on Nephilim Death Squad is the disclosure that's coming. And so it just turns out that the way the shows are stacked up, a lot of the coming shows are on this topic of disclosure. As interesting as that episode was yesterday, I'm more excited for today's episode. So we've bought back Fringe to the show to talk about this alien deception, this big disclosure deception, and specifically the divine feminine aspect of the deception, which Fringe has personal experience with. And it doesn't get more important than that, that, that testimony based pov. So. But before we get into that Fringe, thank you for coming on the show. Where can people find your work? And I know we talked about it earlier, one of these places is X. You've been killing it on X. And that's where the conversation is happening. So you know X. Where else can people find you?
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That's about it. So most of most everything I put out is on X. And you can follow me@fringe.com and thank you so much, you guys, for having me on again. I appreciate being here.
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Well, we, you and I were having this discussion because a lot of the information that's really hyper relevant to the disclosure, you know, deception, that's just kind of what I'm calling it now is happening on X. Right? That's like the, the, where the, everything is flowing right out of the tap. And I've been seeing you saying in my opinion, all the right stuff precautioning people about what the official narrative is. And a lot of these people that are involved in the narrative are also big accounts on X. So, so you're going right to where they're having these conversations and you're giving pushback directly to them. And, and these are people like the Steven Greers or the, the Bledsoe's, Chris and Ryan, which we brought them up recently on the show. And there is a real divide. Luis Elizondo is one of these people, maybe even Albarino. And there's been a divide, you know, that seems to be the status quo. These names that I've just named within the disclosure operation, these are the people that have been elevated and, and their opinions seem to count for more at least on, on the official narrative end. And the, the dissenting opinion is coming from people like you. There's also a couple other folks. Red Panda Koala is a good one. Chupacabra is a good one.
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Jay Anderson a bit, I'm not, I'm not too sure.
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It's hard because I'm kind of watching this, like you don't really know where everybody stands, but I am watching this, this battle happen. But, but one of the people whose opinions not only is rooted in, in personal testimony but also in good information is yours. So I reached out to you and I, and you know, you're out of where you typically are and it was a little bit hard but I said this is important. I think the timing is important. It feels like the timing is important. It feels like it's right on the horizon. And by this I mean like, you know, they're going to try to launch the narrative and steer opinions in a really big way. And so maybe it's up to people like us to, to push back against it just like you've been doing on X. And so I just want to thank you for making it happen because I know it wasn't like necessarily something that was easy but you agreed that it was important. So we're here, we're doing it. I want to get straight into your own experience, the testimony first because you've had first hand experience with specifically the Divine Feminine. What does that look like for you? When does that start? What do you want to, what do you want to say about that?
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So first I, I think it is a really important conversation. I think it's going to be, it's got to be the conversation of the year. We have BLEDSOE prediction, his 2026 prediction. We're, we're here 2026. And so this is either going to happen or it won't. His prediction involves this entity he refers to as the Lady. Apparently this lady has told him that she is also Hathor, that she is also Mother Mary, that she is also Isis and Demeter, and she's actually staking claim to all of these so called divine feminine apparitions and goddesses, things that have happened over the years. So this is coming from her through Bledsoe. So this is not my claim or your claim. This is her claim. And so we're at 2026. I think it's going to be very important year. I do unfortunately have some personal experience with this entity referred to, commonly referred to as the Lady. She also calls herself Haor. That comes from Bledsoe himself. Gotten a lot of pushback on that. No, he's never said that. No, in fact he has. He just recently said it. I think he was on American Alchemy this last week and he recently said it. So he has said it. It has come out of his mouth. An entity calling herself Hathor is not my idea of the Divine feminine. But that's going to be up to each person to decide for themselves. If Bledsoe's prediction comes true and this is a year of some type of. He calls it a new knowledge. He has also mentioned that she is going to usher in a thousand years of peace. That sounds very suspicious to me. But this is going to be something that could be coming our way this year. Whatever it is, whatever it looks like, it's a very important conversation. So yes, I do have personal experience with this entity and I'm just going to say an entity presenting in a very similar way as the Divine Feminine. It was October, November of 2022 and I had gone from being a very extreme conservative, Christian Calvinist God of sovereign over all things type of person to. And it's a long story I don't need to get into today, but I've talked about it in other places. So to finding myself pretty neck deep in the New Age movement. And there was a day where I was in the shower and I was, I was wide awake, but I was in the shower. I was actually experiencing a low point that I don't need to get into, but I was feeling distraught, distressed down. And I was praying and I prayed to. My words were the authentic God, the authentic Holy Spirit. And then because I had gotten into the New Age, I actually said my authentic higher self. So at this point I had become convinced that there was a Higher aspect of our being, possibly, you know, in the spirit realm, which we don't even have to talk about that term since we just had. You just had Timothy Albarino on yesterday. But I had become convinced that there was such a thing as a higher self. And so I, I was doing this prayer, I was wide awake, and I suddenly have this experience where my body, I. I slough off snakeskin off of my body, and I watch it go down the drain. And I'm thinking, you know, okay, like this is, this is getting wild. And almost simultaneously, this beautiful blonde woman with, in my case, her hair. Hair was in an updo. She had high cheekbones, blue eyes, and I think she even had a little tiara on the top of her head. She. And there's no other word for it, she downloads herself into my body. So this is almost a simultaneous thing where I'm shedding this snake skin and she downloads herself into my body. And initially I had a very.
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Whoa.
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Kind of reaction and then almost a. Like an overwhelming power. I. I understand. I've heard Jake Barber explain it as this feminine goddess, ultra power, ultra love type of thing that only lasted maybe an instant because I immediately thought to myself, what did I just do? Did I just download an alien into my body? Like it was a super weird, creepy experience. And then I actually end up convincing myself that I had downloaded my higher self. So I just thought, okay, this has to be my higher self. I was praying and I'm kind of trying to just comfort myself and talk myself into this. This has to be my higher self. Heaven forbid I've been possessed by something terrible or, or an alien being or something like this. So I spend the next three days with this divine feminine entity in my body. I know she's there. I can feel her in there. I can see, I can feel her thoughts, I can hear her thoughts. I can feel her looking out of my eyes. Yes, this falls into that woo category of complete insanity. I'm just telling you my story. What happened to me. Belief is neither expected nor required from you or your audience. But this is, this is what happened. For three days, I could feel her looking out of my eyes. I realized that she's very cunning, very intelligent, very powerful, and this whole like, oh, you know, divine feminine was gone in about. It was an instant. It was gone so fast. So she kind of settles into my. My being, into my body, into my mind, and I felt her very strongly for that first three days, and then she just kind of settled in. And I almost want to describe it as just Settling into the background almost like a software program had been installed. And so this leads into an incredible time of, in my, my life of having her basically installed in my body. I am also experiencing the abduction phenomenon. And I end up in a very, a period of what I perceive as a battle over my, my very soul.
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Okay, can we.
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Long story.
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No, this is perfect. I, I want to unpack a little bit of this before we go any further. Number one, you said that you believed for a time that this was your higher self. And I just want to point out really for the audience's sake that there that pattern again of an entity benefiting from you believing it is you. So this is the same thing that we see in the progression of schizophrenia, which in, in our opinion is a spiritual disposition and not some sort of a clinical diagnosis. These intrusive thoughts, they gain a foothold, a stronghold in you the more you identify with them. So when a thought comes across your awareness and it says a thing about you that is perceptive because they know you intimately, they're watching you. And then you identify with it. Let's just say something simple. A lot of people have had this like you're worthless or nobody loves you. That's like a big one, right? And then it's, it's in your voice, it's in your internal monologue and you believe that that's you.
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And that allows you also presenting examples of why as if it's going through like a Rolodex in your head of this is why. You remember you did this. You remember somebody said this to you. I just have a question about. Because when this entity comes and downloads itself into you, is there any inclination of you being able to do that on, on its side to understand what it's doing? Or is it just completely a one way street where it's in your brain and that's it in the back seat or in the driving seat of your, your body.
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Well, it's, it's a bit of a mutual exchange. I, I wouldn't argue the power structure there. This entity would. Had much more power than I had. That was evident. But it's a bit of a mutual exchange. I could feel her personality, I could feel her essence that her energy of what she was all about. And again I, I wanted this to be my higher self. And I, and I really talked myself into that because I immediately so that there was that first, just initial almost that moment like I've heard Jake, Barbara discussed this, this goddess, divine, feminine moment. But immediately I knew something was wrong. And My mind said, did I just download an alien? And then I start talking. My, no, this has to be my higher self. This has to be me. This has to be me, but not me. This has to be just the better version of me. And it was just. I think it was just a coping mechanism because I had to have her exercised in 2024. I went to an exorcism over this. I mean, this was no joke.
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That's interesting. Well, okay, so before we move on, then, I wanted to go back into the moment where this happens, where you're. You're appealing to the authentic Holy Spirit, the authentic God. Is there anything, in your opinion. I know you said you had gotten into the new age. Anything specific, or was it an amalgamation of things that gave this thing access to you, that allowed this to happen, that facilitated it? What. What line did you cross, if you're aware of it at all, where this thing had the right to do that?
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All of them. I crossed all of the lines. This was 100% on me. This was something I did. I went from being a super conservative Christian. I would never think about engaging in any type of new age practices. And I. By this time, I had. I had engaged in all of them. And I think specifically this prayer opened me up to the download. I'm sure she didn't just come out of nowhere. She was probably lurking for quite some time. I also have a bit of an interesting family history with this entity. So my biological father getting into my entire story would be a real stretch for this time. But just quickly, as quickly as I can make it. My biological father was involved in a human trafficking ring. And he. I later come to find out that he was. He had seen the lady, so he had had experience with the lady, and he had had an experience with this other entity called Denino de Atocha. And he had decided that Christ was not real and not true and that he had been shown the real Christ and that it was this entity that he calls Danino. And so my. My biological father already had previous experience with these entities. I believe he was in a bargain with these entities. He said that these entities had saved his life many times and that he would follow them to the ends of the earth. So that's the. The history. My. He was involved in the occult, and he had. He had been channeling. He had been engaged in paranormal activities. He describes a time of levitating in his backyard. He had been in communication with aliens who called himself angels, by the way. So he had all of this in his history And I've now spoken to many, many researchers over the years, and the first thing they asked me is, who in your family was involved in the OCC cult, who was making bargains with entities? And right away, that just jumps out at me. My biological father. And I've been told he probably. I. I was probably. And I know this sounds ridiculous to some people, but there are a lot of covenants and contracts and permissions that we're giving to these entities. We don't like that. I don't like it, but it is what it is.
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Yeah.
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And most likely I was already signed over to these entities without even knowing it, and that opening was just there. Now, I been surrounded by entities since I was a child, but this, the lady specifically, and this Denino, he was involved in. They were probably just lurking and waiting for the opportunity. I. I will probably never know.
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I. I don't want to go into this too much, but the last time you came on the show, you and I had a discussion after the show where I told you some of my experiences. The audience knows my experiences, and they are aware that my grandmother was also some sort of practicing. She wouldn't like the term witch, but, you know, it's involved in some sort of pagan rituals. And. And, you know, I've had abduction experiences. You said something unsettling, which is, it's likely still happening to me. I don't think that it is. I. I think I've gone to some pretty great lengths to break any agreements and bonds and generational iniquities and everything. But to your point, those contracts and rights do exist from previous generations. We've been. Those debts have been paid through the blood of Christ, and we can break them. I think some bonds may be harder to break than others. Some bonds might be deeper rooted, but in the Bible, it talks about generational iniquity up to seven generations.
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Some bonds might have to break doing certain rituals. You know, Jesus mentioned that these come out with fasting.
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Right, Right.
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So it's like, I don't know, depending on the type of covenant that was made, perhaps you have to do a certain thing to break it. But perhaps your story here reminds me a little bit about what Vicky Joy Anderson had told us about her father. That her father had rights over her, so he was able to step in the. In the gap for her.
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Yeah. Advocate for her.
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Yeah. And there's something very powerful in the spiritual realm which may or may not exist. According to somebody. There's. There are strong implications for your father or your father figure signing something away or being like. Like maintaining custody over you. So if that was abdicated, there's. I don't know, there's a contract.
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Well, think about a marriage ceremony where a father gives a daughter away.
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Right, right.
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He has the right to do that. I think the. We underplay the spiritual implications of that. But when I was younger, I. I had in that house where my grandmother lived and practiced all her, you know, whatever she was doing. I had a woman's voice in my head when I was very young, and I've never been able to place that. I don't know who that was, why that happened, or anything like that. And it never happened again. That's why I thought I was going to be schizophrenic for a long time, because my aunt was schizophrenic. And. But it onsets by 30 in men, and if you don't have it by then, you're probably not going to get it. We'll see. I just want to also note that the way that you described her is very similar to the way, like, Pleiadians are described. Right. And that's an interesting thing that we're, I think, going to see play out is a division in good aliens versus bad aliens. And I think the Pleiadians or the Tall Nords are going to fall in the good camp. But I do believe that this is a. A large deception. And so I think even the Bledsoes will kind of tell you, like, oh, the Pleiadians good, you know, the Grays bad.
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So I think that that's why, like, toward the end, I don't mean to, like, recap the episode, but toward the end, he was intent on us picking a side.
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Yeah.
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If you had to choose. And I told him, you. Yeah, because I'm not going to choose. Like, clearly both of these sides are not good.
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Well, that's. When we asked him, we said, is there. Is there a neutral side? Is there a good, bad and a good side and a bad side? And is there a neutral side? And he said, yes. And then we said, well, Jesus says, if you are not with me, then you're against me, and thereby there is no neutral side. He just made a bunch of words at that. That didn't really make a slippery.
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It's a slippery game we're about to play.
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Yes. So, okay, let's. Let's go back to where we left off. Now, afterwards, you experience a bunch of abductions and. And you know, we've talked about your story before. I don't want to make you rehash all the details. I, I just. This firsthand experience with this feminine, divine feminine deception is, Is hugely important right now. So, you know, feel free to not have to dive into the entire length of the abduction experiences where you left off.
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You were saying that you felt like you were in a battle for your soul at some point.
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Right. Which is the important part. And, and I'll try to make it short, but after this thing downloads itself into my body, and, you know, we could call it a possession, the words might be different, but it's essentially the same thing. This thing has installed itself into my programming, basically. And during this time there was a lot of other things going on. However, I believe that because this entity was literally inside my body or downloaded or running this software program, I enter into a period of significant, a spiritual warfare. And the bottom line is, is this entity? And this is my perception of my own experiences. This entity, along with. I was getting a lot of downloads, a lot of lessons. I was still experiencing your typical alien abduction. I was. Now, by this time early the next year, I was experiencing demonic activity. And all of this was working toward. I'll just. I'll just say it. The aliens, including this, the lady and this divine feminine, wanted me to go down the gnostic eluciferian road. And this is also now what I'm seeing with Bledsoe. This same is. Is it the same entity? I will never know. Whatever this archetype is, whatever this divine feminine goddess is, many, many people in the UFO community have seen her. Many experiencers, many abductees have seen her. She's all over the place. And we are now hearing Bledsoe say that he thinks she might be Sophia. And we hear Ryan and Chris speaking in a very gnostic way. Well, this was my experience as well. It might sound foreign or silly to some people to say, oh, the aliens try to change my religion. But I have a whole hour video on how I was walked down this path from super conservative, the most conservative type of Christian I could possibly be, down this gnostic Luciferian route. And it ended with me rejecting a lot of these ideas, realizing that they were number one. They're all on the same team. This is my experience. I'm saying this from my personal experience. And I'm also speaking about the abduction research and speaking to other abductees. To think that there is a good side and a bad side to these aliens, they are all on the same team. I would be very, very cautious. And if any alien presents itself as the good guy, it's probably just a good cop, bad cop, or a lesser of two evils. If we have. We were going to choose a side, I would choose no side. I would choose none of their sides. And I think it's very important that we speak about these things before we might actually have to make a decision like this. And so my experiences. They're all on the same team. Are aliens. Demonstration. No, they are not. But they are working all on the same team toward a common goal. And that is this goal of it's, it's spiritual warfare. They want every one of us away from the only true God of the universe and they want us down either the new age or this Gnosticism, the Luciferianism. It's a very complicated story, but I can tell you that after I made my decision and I was up against this weird deadline, I had to. I was pushed to make a decision. I kind of felt like a ping pong ball. I didn't have just the negative experiences. I was also having positive experiences as well. Not with aliens, but I knew I had to make a decision. And I made a decision in the day after I wrote in my journal that I made a decision the very next day. I woke up on the table in a medical environment with an entity at my feet. And I was. I was filleted open. My guts were open from my belly button all the way down. This was a. A trauma. It was a punishment. It was just made known to me that I had gone against the agenda. I had made the wrong decision. I had made the decision they were not too happy with and I was now going to be punished for it. And that, that is a whole other story in and of itself. But my, my very, the very short, the shortest story is that this lady downloaded herself into my body and became part of this agenda of turning me away from what I believe is the true creator of the universe and Christ into this very narcissistic Gnosticism, this Luciferianism. Lucifer is the good guy. And I have a whole list of the things that, that they wanted me to believe. And it was anything and everything except for biblical Christianity.
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That. Okay, so that is, I just want to say just, just to give that overview. Right. You have this entity in you. Because I was going to ask this question. What is the goal? You're saying the goal is to enlighten you, Right? In so many words, and which is very appealing sounding, especially if you're in the conspiracy realm. This is something that I was just having a discussion with Matt about. I'm. I've been fading away from this for the past maybe, let's say like three months or something like that, where I've, I've realized that this, this path leads exactly where you're talking about fringe. The God of this realm is, you know, the demiurge. It's Yaldaboath. This is a prison. And that Lucifer was the good guy for rebelling against God. And, and, and that's not even the true guy. All these, all these different things happen. And that there's a cautionary tale in the Bible that, you know, it's, it's lean not on your own understanding. And it's because we're only here for this limited amount of time and, you know, whatever it is, 100 years if we're lucky, God talks to Job and, and, and when he's sort of consoling him or asking him why he's allowing his homies to trash them, he goes, you know, where were you when I was laying the foundations of the earth? In other words, like, you're here for such a short amount of time. It's, it's a, it's a flip of a moment. You don't understand what's happening here. You don't understand this grand plan. Faith in God is necessary, but these things take advantage of a system, or not a system, but a nature within us. And that nature is like, based in pride, but it's also based in temperance.
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Like in our inability to experience the eternal and just. But, but it's also a great thing to, to be experiencing time. I was late to the podcast today. Not so great. It was great, but the, the, the constrictions of time, I think make, make life worth living, you know?
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Yeah.
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If, if it was like open ended and everything had already happened and was already happening and is happening currently, it would just kind of be a mishmash of bullshit.
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Yeah. I would say we're blessed to have this experience and go through the seasons of life.
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Yeah. But there obviously, and the limitations are like how we. I border up ad nauseam at this point. But like the people are experiencing, you know, they're experiencing malfeasance from their leaders or their, their judges or their prophets, and they ask for a king because it has to happen now because they're living in this time frame. I'm guilty of it. You are too. Sure. So we need it now. But that's like, that's where the deception really comes in.
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Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's. The trick of it is accepting your, your limitations and accepting that you can't know a thing, but they do. They hijack that desire, and then they give us this. This false binary. And I'm. I'm more and more aware of this false binary as we go forward in time. The same way you have a left versus right, or Republican versus Democrat, or this versus that, or every movie serves you up a very clear bad guy. It was the same way that they're designing this thing. There are good guys, they are Pleiadians, there are bad guys, there are. They are grays. And. And you have to pick a side, and you're chosen and you're special, and you've been tasked to bring out this thing and spread this knowledge. And this is all going to end in a great battle between the. The good aliens and the bad aliens. And then we'll go, you know, forward and live happily ever after. It's like, yeah, Hollywood has done a number on priming that part of our brain. I think that's part of the prop. The, the. The thing that the propaganda machine serves to do to us.
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Yeah. I mean, where, where people build on stories.
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Right.
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So we kind of want that ending. Or you want that finality where there's, like, the resolution. Even in music, you want that. You want it to come back to the. To the one, the home base. So everybody could just go, ah. They train you as children. As a matter of fact. I don't know if you know this, but when you're in assembly, they go 4, 4, 5 on the chords, and that means stand up. And then five, four. And that means sit down.
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Oh.
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It's a reversal of the.
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B
Do you remember that being in, like, auditorium?
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A
No, I mean, I never noticed it.
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B
Yeah, that's what they do. But it's. It's tied to me. It's tied to everything. But we want that resolution, and they're.
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A
Gonna give it to us. These things will give it to us. They'll give us the. The coveted information. They'll make us the heroes of the story. Right. They'll give us a very clear good guy versus bad guy thing. And they'll give us something that's compelling, which is like, the big thing that they're hiding is God is actually the bad guy. It's like, what a twist. M. Night Shyamalan couldn't have written that better. That's fantastic. We love that. Yeah, that's a. It's a hijacking of our own psychology. So I just wanted to point that out.
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C
Yeah. So this is a very complicated and long story. I'm just Trying to make it short, but the these entities. And I'm just going to give my personal opinion, but my opinion comes from a lot of experience, unfortunately, hundreds and hundreds of contacts with these entities. I would be very cautious believing any of these entities. I am not convinced there is one single alien. Quotes that's a good guy. Could there be. I wouldn't totally take it off the table, but just because of their nature, because of how they were made and their functionality, what they were created for, I would be very suspicious of any alien claiming to be a good guy. And I think it's going to be a good cop back cop thing. And again, in my own experience and in the abduction research, we see time and time again these entities all working together. And so they're working together toward a common goal. This has to do with some type of hijacking of the human soul. This is what they are fascinated with. And I think they're all on the same team. That's my personal opinion. And it's from a lot of experience. I have experience with them pretending to be one thing and then actually turning into something else. And so at this point it would almost be like if an alien tried to convince me that they were a good guy. It would be like me trying to convince you that Mickey Mouse is actually in the Mickey Mouse suit at Disneyland. So as an adult, you. There's no way I could convince you that there's not a, you know, someone inside that Mickey Mouse costume. But if you're four years old, the four year old believes that that's actually Mickey Mouse, you know, shaking their hand and giving them a hug. But once I've seen behind the scenes and kind of seen how the sausage was made, I would have a very hard time with any alien pretending to presenting as a good guy.
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A
Have you had experience fringe with the array of, of, you know, alien species, as I guess we would, we would currently describe them?
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C
Yes, you know, just all the different kinds. Not all the different kinds. My absolute least experience is actually with the mantid type, which is kind of at the top of that food chain or that's at least what it appears to be. But the grays and the, the all different sizes of grays, a lot of hybrids, again the demonic entities, reptilian entities, all kinds of different types. And I've been in that environment so much that I've absorbed a lot of. Of what, just what's going on in their heads. I mean, one of them was living in my body and so I have absorbed just a lot and I've gotten taught, I've been, I've gotten taught lessons and I've gotten a lot of downloads. I've been given a lot of, you know, secret knowledge. And granted, it could all be a lie, because I always, I always take that into consideration. But being in that telepathic environment, I can't help but absorb some of what's going on, even when they're blocking their thoughts. So just take it for whatever it's worth. It's my personal opinion. Don't make deals with any of these entities.
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A
I will. I, I want to ask you one more question on that topic, just due to your personal experience. And then I kind of want to move on to these things that are developing right now in the UAP space with the Bledsos and the Divine Feminine and.
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B
Well, I also have a question too, but.
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A
Okay, so my, my question is, do you think that this sounds plausible, this thing that I'm about to lay out to you? We, we talked to Karen Wilkinson, who's also an abductee victim, and she has an experience where she sees the Grays discarded like, like meat suits that are no longer in, you know, that are, aren't functioning. And, and she lays this out. I talked to her on the phone yesterday and she, she said, it's funny that I had mentioned this because she wrote about it in a recent article. This idea that you would take the grays and paint them as bad guys and then you would liberate us or save us from them, when in reality they are a form of biomechanical technology that doesn't have a spirit or anything like that. It's not sentient until something engages with it and then it just carries out whatever task it's, it's, you know, dictated to carry out. And so if we are going to come to some point, and the reason I'm asking is because we might come to this point and this is something that people should consider if we are to come to a point where we're rescued from them effectively. What might have just happened is somebody destroyed their toys in front of us and said, we saved you from our toys.
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C
Oh, entirely possible. I mean, there's so many opinions on what the Grays are, but that's definitely on the table. I believe that these aliens can and do use the Grays and others, including the Reptilians, as avatars. And so the, we have to look at what's the intelligence behind these so called aliens. And I would definitely leave that on the table as a possibility.
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A
Okay, what was the Question that you.
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B
Wanted to ask, just to backtrack that you said when they flayed you open, take, like, to take your guts out, like sort of like some C section in a way, was that, do you think that that was an illusion, like, as a threat, or do you think that that actually happens, like in, that actually happened in, in the physical and they were able to patch you up in some way that's like, non recognizable after?
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C
Yeah, Per. And that's a great question. And my answer is I don't know. And so when I woke up from that incident, this happened in the middle of the night. Number one, when I woke up on the table, I was conscious, so I was awake. It would be like you waking up at the dentist's office or waking up during a surgery because the anesthesia didn't quite work, and you wake up. And I woke up and I just went, I, I cursed. I said, what the f is going on? And this entity said, what, do you just want me to leave you like this? And I said, well, of course not, and put it back. Yeah, I, I, I mean, I can't. I actually cried when I was telling this story just last week. And so I know it sounds, you know, just, you know, like it was something clinical, but this, this was not clinical. This was a trauma.
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A
They wanted you to see this.
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C
Oh, absolutely. The entities later sent me a vision on how this happened. It's something I won't even discuss on a live, live stream. And so, and, and I will add that this entity at the table, at the, at the bottom of the table actually later told me that he was baphomet. And so this was purposeful. They wanted me to believe that I was being punished for my choices. Now, to answer your question, when I woke up the next morning from this incident, I had petechiae on the inside of my thighs, and my belly was red, but I didn't have any scars from this. Now, the abduction research shows that they can perform extraordinary surgeries, and they have this tool that just kind of sews you up, almost like a little laser. So is it possible that that actually physically happened? Yes. It's also possible that it was just a projection. It's possible that they just put that into my mind. Now, that my physical body actually had marks from this incident is something that could also be written off. That doesn't mean it was a physical incident. We're aware, we're probably all three of us aware that hypnotists can make a person believe that they're being burned with Cigarettes. And, and that will show up on the skin.
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B
Yeah.
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C
And so I am in an interesting place right now because I've, I've run the gamut on this. Is this physical? There are times I'm convinced it's physical, there are times I'm convinced it's not. And I, and I land somewhere in the middle. I think there is a mystery between. I, I know that these words probably got thrown around yesterday between the spiritual realm and the physical realm. There's just no other words for it. I'm not a physicist. I don't know what's actually happening. I just use these words, try to make an attempt to convey my own experiences. And so there is a mysterious overlap between these worlds. And I think it's something that we don't quite yet understand where they can take our astral bodies out of our physical bodies and we can return with marks. And I believe they also take our physical bodies at times when they're taking. There's just too much in the abduction research that shows that at least some of this is physical.
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A
Yeah.
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C
So in this particular case, my answer is I don't know. Now, I've had, and I've had other experiences where I'm fairly well convinced it was physical because something was different physically. In this case, I just don't know. I don't know if they wanted me. I, I, I usually say either this happened or they want me to believe this happened because they're capable of extreme projection into our minds. They're capable of, of making us see things that are not there at all. Now, I did get decent at being able to see through a lot of this illusion, but that doesn't mean, I mean these entities are much more powerful than I am. That doesn't mean that they weren't able to convince me of this. There's also no, I'll, I'll just, I'll just leave it there.
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A
Well, I just want to say that is consistent with the body of like, testimony from experiencers where this is kind of all over the map. It seems spiritual at moments, it seems very physical at moments. You have pregnancies, you have implants, etc, but then you have experiences that seem very real. And then the experiencer will then look around their physical surroundings after they wake up and confirm like, no, I don't think there's any way that could have happened just based off of the evidence that it didn't leave. And so this is a multifaceted, multi layered thing. And I wonder before we depart. I know I said that was Gonna be my last question. Was there ever any presence of humans, military personnel, medical personnel, science community, things like that? That's something that does seem to emerge as a pattern within abductee testimony.
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C
Right. And that's what I actually stopped myself from going down that road just because again, we don't have, you know, time for my entire story, but there's an MK Ultra component to this. Possibly in one of my last very traumatic incidents, these creatures were calling me by a number. And I have since learned that that's very common for an MK Ultra program. So that, that would definitely be a human factor. I have had experiences where I believed. So remember, hybrids look human. The new, the late stage hybrids look human.
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A
Yeah, they've really kind of polished that what used to be off putting big black eyed children has now been pretty well refined.
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B
Good for them.
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A
Yeah, good. They made progress.
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B
Some upgrades.
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C
So the late stage hybrids, they look very human, but they're telepathic. And so I can sometimes tell the difference. Not all the time, but sometimes I could tell the difference. If it's communicating telepathically, it's probably not a human. And then there are other times when I. So I have seen humans, what I believed were humans, but they could have been hybrids. And these were two occasions where I was being punished for not going with the program. And this is going to fall into that. Was this an illusion? Is this what they wanted me to believe? Or did this actually happen? Category 2 times where I saw what appeared to be humans in tan uniforms. I call it Walmart Tactical. They were in contractor type uniforms with the, with the short sleeve tan shirts and the khakis. But they had long guns. Unusual for the so called aliens to have long guns. And so this was, these were two incidents where people were being lined up and disintegrated with a wand. Some type of technology, some type of device. And so were those humans? Did that even happen? I mean, when it happened, they certainly wanted me to believe because they wanted me to believe I was next. I was being threatened with this in this scenario. And so were those humans. They could have been hybrids pretending to be humans. So in those two cases, those that did not fit into a typical hybrid behavior. So they could have been humans, but I just don't know. It could have been that it didn't even happen and they wanted me to believe it did. So there's a lot of that that happens with abductees where like you said, I, I wake up in the morning and I determine was I was that physical, was that Spiritual. I'll let me quickly say that my dealing with my own experiences has been a process. And since 2023 I've been trying to stop any interaction with the phenomenon whatsoever was physical abduction or an astral abduction. I've been trying to stop it. And I am happy to report in the last several weeks I seem to have been successful. I never thought I would get to this day and I, however long it lasts, I'm happy with it. And that success has largely, I believe. Well, number one, I will not take away from having the exorcism dedicated prayer. This is a long, long game. Again, those, those covenants and, and you know, disavowing any covenants, any permissions, making sure throughout the day that I'm not giving any extra permissions or any extra consent. I have upped the iron in my body, which is something that's recommended by Steve Mara, who's a paranormal investigator. And I have put cameras throughout my house. And these cameras that are very simple cameras, it's not like they can't be overcome, but they're very simple cameras that are not reliant on electricity because they have a battery backup and they have a SIM card and so they're not just recording to the cloud. So the WI fi doesn't matter. So if the electricity or the WI fi are interfered with, these cameras just keep going. Now, could the so called aliens blow up the cameras? Yes, but how many times can they blow up the cameras and still maintain any type of covertness or positive deniability? And so kind of getting back to that original question, if cameras are stopping my perception of being taken out of my bed and undergoing gynecological procedures and undergoing the, you know, being involved in this so called hybrid breeding program, whatever this is, if a camera can stop that activity, at least my perception of that activity is it more physical than I ever want it to believe. So I'm right there now. And again, I don't know, is it that in order to take the spiritual or astral body out of our bodies, maybe they need a technology that has to be right there bedside, potentially, I don't know. So there's something about the cameras recording my physical environment that is stopping my perception of being abducted.
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A
So I can see that correlation that you're drawing. That's, that's a, I don't want to call it a one to one, but I mean, yeah, I wouldn't, I would have a problem quantifying that any other way. If a physical technology being present has affected this phenomenon, then you Know is what would, what would that matter if this was purely physical? I mean a spiritual. If this was purely astral or something of that nature, it was happening in a dreamscape or whatever you want to say, what then? Would this, would this matter at all? But I'm glad to hear.
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B
Doesn't that idea though, like, really give you pause when. So it's like obviously now for the last, I don't know, since like Roswell, these operations, since the 50s, I'd say. Right. Since the creation of Israel and everything, these operations have been clandestine and they have, they have to be done in secret. But what we're pushing toward now and you know, like they're celebrating like Lou Elizondo getting disclosure. And I'm like, yeah, but on the other. And I'm not saying to hold this stuff back, but I'm saying on the other side of that, what does that mean for these entities at work?
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A
Yeah.
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B
If there is then disclosure and everybody knows, does that just mean that they're free to do what they want?
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A
I wonder how that changes. Yeah, the phenomenon itself.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Interesting thought.
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B
It operates out in the open. Now that we know that it exists, there's like not a taboo around it or how does that change it?
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A
Well, yeah, I mean, it starts to open up the door too to this conversation about the technological aspect. Like, if this is a physical thing, then it opens up the door to, to time dilation, which is an alleged technology they've had access to for quite some time. And all of the frequency based technology. We talk quite a bit fringe on this show about the implication of frequency based technology, not just for doing wild things to people like what we've seen in Venezuela where they're bleeding from the eyes or what the hell ever when, when we went in there. But also that these entities seem to operate through frequency and that the brain is a sort of receiver of frequencies and waves. And if you can change the frequency that the brain is tuning into, then you might be able to sync it up with one where we're suddenly more receptive to these entities. Or you could alter us in such a way as to fill us with fear, paralyze us any number of things. And if frequency really is that powerful, well, I'm sure with a little bit of research you'd find that there's a correlation between frequency and time. And then that opens up the door for any number of things. Now we have time manipulation, we have paralysis, we have all these different things. The ability to manipulate our fundamental perception of, of our physical reality. And I Don't think in a way that's hallucinogen based. It's not a hallucination. It's not something that's not there. It's simply a perception thing. We're suddenly aware of a thing that is there. Maybe not always physical, maybe the frequency allows it to be physical. But they've had access to this. You know, we've been looking at work as far back as 1947 where. Where this starts to poke its head up. And so, yeah, the modern day 2020, that they wouldn't have a well polished version of that if they ever did have the ability to do that. That would explain if it is physical, how is it so dynamic and bizarre? It's like. Well, it seems to be. Frequency is really at the base of it.
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B
The idea of it operating of a bit of time dilation being a result of frequency freaks me out because frequency is a result of time. Like how things vibrate. The quickness and.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And the speed in which they vibrate is all about time. If you remove that from it, then it's not frequency anymore or vibration. It's. I don't know what it is. And now that. Now we're just like into the complete upside down.
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A
Well. Well, this actually goes into perfectly what I wanted to ask. I want to step out of the. The realm of your experiences because, friends, you've talked about them a lot. You've talked about them on our show and I highly recommend people go and, and listen to your testimonies because you'll get a deeper firsthand understanding of this phenomenon. But I wanted to get your thoughts on the. The phenomenon that's unrolling in the public eye. And one of the things I wanted to start with before we get into all the other crazy stuff about the Bledsoe's and everything, but the CE5 app, this is something that is. Is that Stephen Greer? Yeah, it is Stephen Greer. Right. And he's horrifying looking and I think.
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B
Is he the only guy that did? I'm sure that.
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A
I'm sure other people have done it, but the CE5 app is his app and what it does is it allows people to. To call into this physical realm orbs. And I guess with some reliability. I don't know to what degree. We've got a lot of thoughts on it, but I'd like to get your thoughts on. On that one in particular.
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C
Where do you want me to go with that? Are you just wondering do I think that's a real thing or what? I just think about.
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A
I Guess what I'll do is I'll tell you a little bit about what we know. We had a gentleman right into the show who used to mess with binaural beats and Hemi syncing, and in particular, he would dial them into a specific hertz, and he found that some were more effective than others. Now, one of them ended up being really effective, and it resulted in alien abduction experiences, demonic encounters, sleep paralysis, the whole shebang. And he happens to say that the very hertz that the CE5 app is tuned to is that same hertz. And also that it is basically a Binaural Beats app. And so it seems fringe that what people are experiencing with the orbs, which is what he said he also experienced in his own research, is the same thing that opens the door to this whole horrifying experience.
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C
It is. It is the same thing. I tell people that if you are an adult and you want to do CE5, as long as you are duly informed of the consequences, then you're an adult, Go, do, go do you. But unfortunately, what happens, and this is something that gets a lot of pushback. But once you've talked to as many people as I've talked to, including, you know, you're getting stories also from this other guest, you'll understand that this is not an uncommon story. It's just that people don't want to admit it. And so, so many times. First of all, 90% of what people are seeing out in the skies, in my personal opinion, is not anomalous. But when we get down to doing CE5 and calling in these orbs and calling in, it's just a contact modality and trying to get in touch with these entities. A lot of times, not always. A lot of times it ends badly. A lot of times people end up with orbs in their home and with shadow people in their home with their children being attacked. I have been in touch with a person whose child perceived an abduction by a reptilian from having contact with these orbs. And it, it's just, to me, it's just the no go zone. If you're an adult and you're single and you don't have a family and that's what you want to do, I can't stop you as long as you're informed. The problem is, is people like Greer do not tell anyone about this. They just want you to go out and get on your. Get on the app and do the binaural beats and try to contact entities. And if you're of any interest whatsoever to these entities, Though they will come for you. And no warnings whatsoever that this can impact not only you, but your family and your children. And it. And it could be. It could go on for a long time. It could be lifelong after that, depending on what interest they have in you.
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A
Horrible that is that. That this guy is out there promoting a thing that, like, could result in what most people would say is. Is the most horrifying experience of their life. I had a couple of brief, you know, brushings with this kind of phenomenon, and I've described it to the audience before. The fear that comes out of it is. It transcends, like, regular fear. I've been in, like, sticky situations throughout my life, you know, really scary crap. The fear that's associated with this is like mortal doom. It's doom. It's hard to even quantify or put that in words. It's. I wouldn't have understood it unless I experienced it. And you're. You're telling people like, yo, sign up to this app, download it on your iPhone. You know, think about those. Those medicine commercials where it's like, side effects. Cancer.
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C
Yeah.
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A
It's like, side effects may include the scariest that's ever happened to you in your entire life. It's.
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B
It's crazy. The range of binaural beats or like, what do they be called? Like, cochlear non. Non linearity is what it would be called. It's like, you know, two beats, they are close enough that your brain perceives them as the same thing, but then it starts making up in between. That's kind of what's. What's happening, and then that can draw in orbs or whatever. But like, you're describing that. That. That happened to you because of a fan.
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A
Oh, yeah. Who was that that told us that? Was that Vicki Joy Anderson?
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B
I think so. Yeah.
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A
There was this idea that your fan. Because I'm. I sleep with a fan. And. And some of them, you know, not for any. It's not on purpose, but that droning of the fan actually can act as a binaural beat and it can hemi sync you in your sleep.
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B
Right.
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A
Which can then facilitate, you know, whatever access these things need. And it happened. Do this to you?
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B
It happened to me as a kid. I think I told you.
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A
Oh, yeah, yeah. With the tv, with.
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B
Yeah. Like the Yankees. Michael K. Specifically Michael K. He's talking and something about maybe the, like, I don't know, the music that was playing behind him as he's introducing the Yankees. And I'd sit there with my uncle and My dad and I'd have this like, like this out of body experience. And I remember vividly seeing everything from the corner of the room and I'm like, I am not in my body. I'm feeling like vibrating in a way. But I knew better than to like, I could have left the house and went anywhere, but I knew better and I was like, I was terrified. There wasn't anything bad specifically there, but I wouldn't stray too far from where I was.
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A
Dude, I just saw the craziest thing in the comments though. Pandafly said in Twin Peaks, which is that David lynch film, it's like critically acclaimed, highly occultic. The demon in the show comes through the ceiling fan noise.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Damn.
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A
David lynch over the target. That's, that's remarkable. That's remarkable. I just think it's a, it's a crazy thing because people want to have a profound experience with the supernatural or something that is beyond what the materialist paradigm tells us exists. And so I can see in that way, like the CE5 app is interesting, right? You mean to tell me that with some level of reliability I can summon a ufo? And this guy is, you know, he's on the, about the biggest stages you're allowed to be on until they do the full disclosure thing, because the government is controlling the drip of this information and so they allow you to get on this stage and that stage. But man, what a horrifying thing. If that's truly just putting you on the same wavelength that these entities exist on and then it gives them access to you. People are, are unwittingly signing up for the most, you know, and this comes from pretty much every testimonial that people have when it comes to this, the most horrifying you'll ever experience.
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C
And there's no warning level. So you guys were joking about the commercials. Look, adults can go out, they can bungee jump, you could skydive, you could do all kinds of things that are dangerous physically to your physical health. But, but there's a warning label and what Greer is doing, and so many advocates for Greer are saying, just go out, you can contact a ufo and there's no discussion whatsoever of any repercussions that might happen. It doesn't happen to everyone, but we've seen in the UFO community, people fascinated with these orbs go into psychology, psychosis, end up in a mental institution, losing a job, losing their marriage, losing their children. And so this is a, it's a serious thing to contact these entities. It's not like there's Any guarantee? I, I think we hear a lot from these so called psionic assets. Oh, you just have to elevate your frequency and elevate your vibration and project gratitude out into the universe and you're going to contact something good. And yet we have stories of them being abducted and having scoop marks taken out of their own bodies. Now they can get that Stockholm syndrome thing we do to protect ourselves and pretend that that was okay. But specifically speaking of a green Beret who's a psionic asset, he is literally a trained killer of men, a trained warrior, saying it was totally fine, you know, that the aliens abducted me and have scoop marks out of my body. I mean, what is that? That's derangement. In my personal opinion. You know, that's some type of mind control, some type of Stockholm syndrome that is taking over to make excuses for what happens when we engage in these types of activities.
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A
Yeah, it's, I think also the thing that they do is they kind of embed a lot of these abductee victims with this notion of being special. You're special, you're chosen. And that really does a number on us because we all want to be special. We all want to be chosen, especially because, you know, not only is that a natural inclination within us, but Hollywood gives us that constantly. Every good piece of media has a chosen, special character that's going to save and do the thing. And then to have this experience and then to be told that you're special, it's like, I don't think you can put a measure on how much we're willing to go through to preserve that notion that, that we're special or we're chosen. And even if that means justifying the scoops taken out of your body or any number of things horrifying, horrifying things that happen to people, you know, we'll, we'll keep it going just to keep that narrative alive in our hearts that we're just, we're special and, and we're chosen. Fringe. One of the things that comes up a lot is this idea of soul harvesting. That that's what a lot of these entities are after. Do you, do you give that much credit?
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C
I do give it a lot of credit, unfortunately. So this is kind of what woke me up from my own stupor, which was I initially thought what was happening to me. I initially thought these were ETS from outer space, ETS from other planets. And I kind of bought into the whole idea that they were just upgrading their own DNA, you know, they were going to help us A little. And then we were going to help them a little. Even though it was super weird and awkward and bizarre, I thought they were ETS from outer space. And then sometime in November or December of 2022, I start realizing that this agenda is much more nefarious than what it appeared to be. And I realized that they are actually transferring my soul out of my body. This is something that a lot of Christians have a very difficult time with. I've been said, it's been said to me, only God has authority over your soul. Okay, well tell that to the aliens with the technology that can take me out of my body against my will. And I, it was just known. And so being in this telepathic environment, I tried to explain earlier, I'm picking up on some of their agenda and their thoughts and, and you know, what, what their motives etc were. And what I was picking up on was they were very interested in the human soul. There was some type of a reverse engineering program going on where they were trying to create the soul either for themselves, almost like a mimicry of a soul. They were trying to figure out our soul. I called it a reverse engineering program in my journal. And then if they weren't able to do that, they were going to hijack our souls and, or trap us. And so this is an entire agenda. It's not just one thing. And throughout the abduction research, you will see this fascination with the human soul and this idea that they are possibly trying to hijack our souls, maybe to trojan horse their way into, you know, the third heaven. Just all kinds of interesting things coming, coming up about the soul. And then there's the idea that they're actually siphoning our soul energy from us to use it in their technology. So it's multifaceted. But in my personal opinion, it, there's something there. And this is what sent me over the edge of realizing these are not ETS from other planets. Now, I don't discount the possibility of ETS from other planets, but what I was dealing with did not appear to be ETS from other planets. And they did seem to have this agenda with the human soul. So I don't discount that whatsoever.
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A
You know, that would explain the fear, because the fear is like it's, it's of, it's the doom of your mortal soul is, is how a lot of people would explain it. It's certainly what I would. It wasn't a fear of my physical body. It was doom. Like doom is not something. Death and doom are a little bit different. You know what I mean, and. And, yeah, I mean, it would explain why every alarm is going off in you, even alarms that don't typically go off in you at all if you're in just regular physical danger. This is something else. Something profound, you know, something funny, like.
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B
A side story, but pertaining. One of my friends, famous artist, he had. He committed suicide. And it was like a. It was a pretty long path from, like, abandoning. Abandoning. Not abandoning his family, but, like, distancing himself from family to, like, this deep depression. And who knows who. Who knows which one of his friends had anything to do with it. But at his wake at the funeral, I was there and I was talking to friends that we didn't know, but he knew from the community. All like, you know, hoity toity, these kind of. It's the art community in New York City. And one of the guys, he was like, yeah, yeah, I was real close. And if I was just with him before he died, I was like, what's your name? And this guy said his name was Loosh.
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A
What the hell?
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B
Yeah, yeah. And it was only like a couple years later that I kind of like, you know, Sam Tripoli talking about it. And, yeah, I was just like, loose. Huh? And you were close to this guy. And then, like, it's just bizarre. But a lot of these events on the world stage that happen, like, I'm. I'm. I perceive we've been perceiving for a long time. You can feel when humanity is, like, down.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Sometimes humanity's up. Like, you go outside and for whatever reason, it's like, ringing like a bell. Yeah, I think that's the. The natural state of humanity, and you need somebody to turn up the fear or turn up the trauma for this to come down, but you certainly feel it. And it's not even necessarily being online and seeing all the crap.
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A
Well, no, I mean, but the Charlie Kirk thing did that. That was like a really. Whatever that was, you know, whatever the event was for all these different people, the conspiracies aside, it was. You could feel the spiritual waves from that. And I. I can't help but wonder, too, because within demon experiences, I have said ad nauseam on this show that I believe that these entities feed off of negative spiritual energy, like fear, depression, anxiety.
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B
Well, it's like worship, right? I mean, it's. It's almost like worship. Like you're getting. You're giving something that attention.
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A
Yeah. I mean, well, fringe. You said at the top of the show that when you had this experience, you were in a low place and you didn't elaborate, but I've, I've also had that. So when I was in the low place is when I saw an entity. And in hindsight, I felt as though I had been feeding it like that, that low place, that negative energy was feeding this thing. So I wonder then if they're siphoning off our soul. If emotion is, is an expression of the soul. It's an, it's an energy that pours off the soul. And maybe that's why you get that, that overlap there where, I mean, these things are all demonic, like you said, doesn't mean that they're all demons. Meaning specifically, you know, if you subscribe to the, the disembodied spirits of the nephilim, they don't have to be the same exact entity, but they are of that alignment. They are demonic. They're against the kingdom of God. And I think that in that body of entities there is a lot of them that feed off of that kind of a thing. And that's why they work, by the way, to get you to these low points. I heard somebody say that the reason this might have been somebody chatting it up in our telegram chat. And I was, I was watching and the notifications roll in, but they'll often push a person to suicide. And it's not just that as the ends, it's the emotional bomb that goes off around it. Yes. So among the family and the friends now it's a buffet for these things. They, they swarm after that. So I think that, you know, it's over and over again you see the overlap. And this is what really frustrated me with, with Timothy Albarino is he's trying to draw this separation between the alien.
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B
His name on this show.
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A
I know, I know, but it's still fresh. The wound is still fresh. But it's frustrating because he tries to draw such a stark contrast between these two phenomenon, the, the alien phenomenon and the demonic phenomenon. And it's like. But all the elements are the same. It's just slightly different language used to describe the process, but it's like the goals are all the same. It's, it's all, all feeding off of this negative energy and, and it, you know, loose would apply to both aspects, the alien aspect and the demonic aspect. And it's because they're the, the same thing. In, in my opinion, I wanted to. Go ahead.
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C
I'll just tell you what I believe these entities are. And this came from a lot of just being in their environment. Downloads lessons, just, you know, neck deep with these things. And I think I mentioned on the show last time, I believe these entities were specifically created to be able to interfere with us in our physical realm. And again, I'm going to use those words because there's really no other way for me to express it. I think these entities were created by the fallen, which to me are more spiritual entities. We don't have to define the word today, but they're less physical entities and they are high, high, high up in the hierarchy. And the, they created through, I think hybridization thousands of years ago. They started this and they have perfected it over time. And I believe they created these entities to specifically interact with us in the physical realm and to carry out this demonic, for lack of a better term, agenda against humanity. And so they are very much on the same team. They, their bosses are the higher up, spiritual, more spiritual, less physical entities on that food chain. And so to me, they are very much on the same team. Yes. Are they, they are different, but they are working together toward a common goal and agenda which is just getting each and every human soul away from God. That's, that's their entire agenda. Now are there other sub agendas? Sure, you know, power and control, you know, maybe food, you know, all kinds of different things that might be playing into, you know, the sub agendas. But the main agenda is to get us away from God.
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A
Yeah, I, I think that's beautifully put and, and there is a simplicity in it. And I think that within this community of, of conspiracy and, and UAP discussion, people are arguing, it's like the elephant in the room and you're arguing about the leg and what is this thing? And, and a lot of people need to zoom out because if we're on the cusp of some actual disclosure, and God knows, we've all been waiting for disclosure for however long now, decades for some and you know, shorter times for, for others, but it doesn't matter. It seems like that's goal, it's what we're going towards. And I, I do believe that one, we're gonna have to tango with it. And the minutia, what's the propulsion methodology? Is it an additional element to the periodic table of elements? And what star system is it? Zeta Reticuli and all this crap is not going to save you. You need a big picture, you need to zoom out. And I think what you just said lays it out perfectly and really highlights a lot of my frustration that I've been experiencing lately with people that I kind of, you know, there's nothing wrong with, with delving in the minutia and exploring it. But you need to often zoom out and remember that what we're dealing with is in opposition to the kingdom of God and you need to be grounded in Jesus Christ. Yes.
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C
That is the only thing that matters. And I appreciate, you know, everybody has their thing. I appreciate people who want to know about the physics and the quantum physics and the propulsion and how are they working these ships and all this. It doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter to me now. It would matter if we were able to reverse engineer something to be a weapon against them. It would matter if we could take them down with their own technology. Then it would matter to me. And I. I hope and pray there are other people working behind the scenes on that for the benefit of humankind. Unfortunately, I think most of our black programs are not going to benefit us at all. But. And I hope that that's there. But the bottom line is, is that these entities are very deceptive. They're manipulative. They will meet you wherever you're at, and they will try to get you away from. From aligning with the most high God. That's the bottom line. There are this. This is a battle of the gods, and everyone knows it. Everyone behind the scenes in ufology knows it's a battle of the gods. They have chosen their sides. There are some people who are trying to get out, you know, of. Of bargains that they've made with these entities. But the thing is, is that they all know it. And yet they come. They come onto podcasts, so they come on to. Very rarely would they come into a space. But they, they speak on podcasts and they don't tell us what's going on behind the scenes. They don't tell us this is a battle for the human soul. But any person who has seen behind the curtain absolutely knows this. They just don't want to say it. They want to call people like me crazy.
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A
Well, we do get some of them that are a little bit more deceived than others. There are people that experience it and they come out the other end. Like, the Bledsows are a perfect example. You know, I saw Ryan Bledsoe say something to the effect of, like, only entities of light are allowed in this realm. Which is just a wild thing to say. But I guess what happens is maybe, maybe you can. Let's give Ryan a little bit of credit here. If what Fringe is saying is true, and I, I suspect it is likely true, on, on specifically the point of the hybridization program being started so long ago, and being perfected. Now, what means. What that means is you now have, like, physical hybrid creatures that can exist perfectly well in this physical realm. And so maybe, maybe angels of God, let's say, that are still in the grace of the Lord can come into this realm where these other fallen can't just pop into the physical realm. Maybe that maybe, you know, he could have been told something very close to the truth mixed in there with some lies. But he uses that to dismiss the idea of, like, grays and things like that. And. And this is all about the goddess. This is all about the lady, whatever that is. So I do think that you can come out being deceived, but it's like, yeah, they're gonna do that. They're gonna tell you you're special. They're gonna tell you something that's very close to the truth, but not quite, because, you know, that's how you create the best lie. On the topic of the Bledsows and. And Chris in particular, you mentioned American Alchemy before, which is fascinating. I had never heard of the show, and I said it on my previous show.
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B
Seem to come up out of nowhere. Right.
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A
Well, I. I said that's my awareness of a thing is by no means a marker of its success or how widespread it is, but I said that I had never heard of American Alchemy. And the chat unanimously said that they had never heard of American Alchemy.
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B
Millions of followers.
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C
Yeah.
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B
They seem to come out of nowhere.
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A
Well, somebody recently, like, one time in the YouTube comment on that episode was like, how have you not heard of American Alchemy? It's the biggest thing in the uap, maybe. Whatever. I have no idea. All I know is the dude interviewed, like, Joe Rogan, and I was like, who the hell is this? And then it's just been a cascade of big names ever since then. Chris Bledsoe's on this show. He's talking about the lady. The many names, as you laid out earlier, Fringe, Hathor and Isis and. And even Mother Mary, which is, you know, it bears repeating. Interesting. During a time when the Vatican or. Or the Catholic Church comes out and says, mary is co Redeemer alongside Christ.
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C
Oh, did that actually happen?
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A
Yes. Isn't that funny timing.
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C
I missed it.
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A
Oh, yeah. And don't worry about it. It's not important. God's important.
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C
Jesus Christ.
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A
But. And then he's also talking about Sophia, which is this gnostic belief that it's a counterpart to Jesus Christ, thereby giving the divine feminine some grounding in scripture. If you believe in that. Then if you go like, oh, this is real. And you know, he's now saying that I don't know if this comes by way of either. The orb that he had a picture of, which we looked at the video footage on, on the other show that I do, the Raven. And inside this orb, for those who aren't aware, there's supposed to be this number, this discernible number inside the orb. Maybe there's a video. I haven't seen the video that we watched on the show that at no point was there anything discernible. It felt as though we took a screenshot and then ran it through AI and said, you know, clarify, clarify. What do you, what do you. You know how the old CSI enhance, enhance, enhance, until it just made up its own. Maybe there was a discernible image in that orb, but that was a series of numbers, 03, 05 or some crap like that. And then people started to speculate about dates in regards to that. And then he comes out and he says that. I don't know if it was with the, the help of the lady, but there's. He's been shown something about Easter 2026, and this is based off of the star Regulus Irregulus. I've never heard it pronounced, I've only read it. I don't know how to phonetically pronounce it and its alignment with the Sphinx. And when this happens, we're going to experience a profound increase in information and knowledge. Things will be revealed to us, you know, that kind of a thing, but also possibly even the return of Jesus Christ. So. So we have something to look forward to. This Easter, you know, in the conspiracy world and in the UAP world, date setting is a moronic endeavor historically. But I have been wrong before when I mocked a thing and I didn't think that it was. And then it ended up being so. And, and in my instance, that was covet. I thought, no, this isn't the thing that is gonna, you know, it's not the bio engineered thing that's gonna. Whatever, we gotta censor this. And then it ended up being. It ended up locking the world down and I was mocking it leading up to it. So I have been wrong. It's gonna happen again, and it's happened a lot before. What are your thoughts on this, this idea of the potential return of Christ, the alignment of the Sphinx and Regulus Irregulus and, and just all of these things that are coming as great revelations from, from Chris Bledsoe in, in a bit of A whirlwind lately.
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C
So I have a lot of thoughts on Bledso and on his story. First of all, Bledsoe is the best person to tell the story of Bledsoe. I'm just on the outside looking in. I can only make observations from the outside looking in. But if you look at how this whole thing started, Bledsoe was abducted and he had four hours of missing time. If you listen to his regression of this incident, he was screaming, he was afraid, he had been paralyzed, his son had been paralyzed and trapped by entities. And so the story actually starts out like any other abduction story that we've ever heard, very similar. And then over the years, he ends up having contact with this entity who he calls the Lady. And we now know he's admitted himself, this is. She's calling herself Hathor and Isis and Demeter and the. The Virgin Mary. And he has said, I don't talk about those other things anymore. I only talk about the lady and what her message is. And so this entity has told Chris that Chris made a bargain on that ship while he was abducted and that he had an agreement to fulfill and that Chris's job is to present the phenomenon as benevolent. This is his job, and this is the agreement that he made with the lady. And that if the lady, if he, if Chris does do that job, that the lady will protect him and his family and allow him to film these orbs. So we have Chris making this prediction about 20, 26. And listen, we've all seen these dates come and go. If this lady is as powerful as she is coming across. So think about, there's a gal, her name is Rebecca Greenwood and she was on Tony Merkel show. She wrote the book Dethroning the Queen of Heaven. And it's her opinion, so she believes that this is a very ancient principality and she might have some power. It's her opinion that the final battle we read about in the book of Revelation will involve this entity, this, this divine feminine. So I take this entity very seriously. I take his predictions very seriously. We have seen these types of dates come and go. So Chris is saying that he, for the longest time he thought it was going to be fall and that these are actually astrologers telling him that what he got from the lady, which is this interesting alignment that's supposed to happen, that it's actually astrologers and maybe even NASA giving him these dates as to when these alignments are going to happen. So it's not actually Chris saying it, but he's just relaying the information. That it's supposed to be either Easter 2026 or in the fall. So I asked myself, and. And he does say there's going to be a time of trouble, and then we will have almost like a great awakening, for lack of a better. Better words. He says it's a great knowledge that's going to come to us and that this entity is going to usher in a thousand years of peace. Okay, that has red flags all over it. He wants to call her Sophia. He's become very Gnostic. He's trying to say that the lady taught him that religion isn't really what he thought it was. And it sounds like it's getting into that, you know, world religion, always lead, all paths lead to the same place type of thing. It sounds like what he's coming up with. And so, yes, we've seen these dates come and go. We might see these dates come and go. These entities lie, cheat, steal, manipulate, deceive. That's all they do. However, I also believe at some point these prophecies are going to happen. Is it going to be now? In our lifetimes? Is it a thousand years from now? I don't know. But could she potentially be a part of fulfilling some of these prophecies? She's presenting herself as an Antichrist. No entity says, I'm here to usher in a thousand years of peace, unless you're Christ. And so she's telling him she's the Holy Spirit and that she's coming to. To usher in a thousand years of peace. That's very concerning. Is this an ancient principality with some power? Is she going to show up? Is she going to bring, you know, an armada with her in the sky? Is she going to be showing this signs and wonders? I don't know. 20, 26 could pass, and maybe nothing happens at all. So if this does happen, my message is just be very careful aligning yourself with any of these entities. I do believe it has implications for the afterlife. I think there's going to be a test of allegiance here when it comes to this battle of the gods that we might see. Maybe we see it, maybe we don't. Another thousand, two thousand years could pass. We never see it. But if we do see it, and if this Bledso entity does present herself as this beautiful Palladian goddess who's going to bring all the light and love to the world. Please, just stop, take a deep breath and do some research and ask yourself if you want to align yourself with Hathor, the Egyptian goddess who's pretending to be the Holy Spirit.
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A
Well, so I think, you know, on this show, we, we mock a lot of things and we, we mock date setting, but you should always be aware of these things. And the reason that we mock it, I think, is twofold. One, because a lot of them, they come and they don't pass, you know, none of them. Well, I mean, there are some things, I, I suppose if you went back and you say, yeah, but it's like rather insignificant things, you know, not like big events. But the other thing is we don't, we don't black pill, you know, so I'm never going to tell the audience to be afraid of a thing. But you're absolutely right. Fringe. Pump the brakes, you know, be grounded in God and don't fall for this, this sort of a thing. But there are so many details that, that do support this. I mean, the divine feminine is something we've been talking about a lot on this show. If you're somebody like me who enjoys kind of the subliminal messaging side symbolism that like, Hollywood will push or, or the super bowl will push. Well, you've. We've been getting a lot of this, like, divine feminine symbolism over and over again. The last super bowl that happened in Caesar Superdome, for example. Donald Trump was the first sitting president to ever be at one. And when I looked forward to the, you know, the Masonic brainwashing halftime thing, I, I was disappointed because I found that it was basically just divine feminine symbolism, which is like, you know, you could do kind of the rise of feminism and the, the feminization of men and things of that nature. And it took a while before I realized that it was a little bit bigger than that. And then Stranger Things, which is a big cultural phenomenon, is filled with this whole divine feminine thing because the hero figures, the. The strongest characters in the end to stand against what actually turns out to be an inversion of a Christ figure. And the big baddie behind the scenes is a representation of the demiurge, right? The, like actual God, but it's inverted and it's, it's evil. And then there's another bad guy that is it in the flesh. And he goes about filling his 12 disciples with his spirit. And it goes over a lot of people's heads, went over my head. So we did a show on it. So they've effectively inverted Christ and the Father and they've made them the villains. And all the people that stand against him are all girls who are using psychic powers, demonic powers, because there is one male figure who's allowed to fight back, and he's a gay guy and he's using. Basically he's using demons. He's been possessed, he's been tormented and abused in his childhood, grows up to be a gay man, but then can use the powers of the demons that abused him in his childhood. So there's all these inversions, there's all this divine feminine energy going on. And if you look back to, I would say one of the biggest events in the conspiracy world is Jack Parsons, who is the. The father of modern day rocketry, works for Jet Propulsion Laboratories, is a subcontractor for NASA, and he's in the desert with L. Ron Hubbard, who is the. The head figure in Scientology. And they're in the deserts trying to summon, through the works of Aleister Crowley, an entity into this realm that's called Babylon. And Babylon in Thelema represents basically the divine feminine. It's supposed to usher in this. This age for women of liberation and things of that nature. And if you just look at the culture that we've been subjected to for, you know, a few generations now, it is the. The feminizing of men, the demonizing of masculinity, and the rise of feminism to the point where it has created what masquerades as a culture of tolerance and acceptance and love, but instead is this inverted, debaucherous, immoral, really disgusting kind of culture that's pushed. And so all the signs are there. Fringe is what I'm saying. The cultural signs are there, the conspiracy signs are there. And then you have this big event on the horizon. And I, I do think it fits and it's worth mentioning. We kind of obsessed over this egg that. That was discovered. Okay, find me. I tried to be in there. I obsessed over the egg that was, you know, airlifted out by the helicopter, by the guy who, when he did it, was filled with the goddess energy. So that's an interesting thing to note there. But that egg, you know, is called the cosmic egg, and it basically is at the cornerstone of many mythos of antiquity. And it has to do with the creation mythos of a lot of pagan cultures. And just to summarize it, rather, the world is birthed from this cosmic egg. And sometimes the egg makes up the firmament, the shell of the egg makes up the firmament, and beneath the egg makes up the world. But oftentimes, especially within the Egyptian pantheon, what emerges from that egg is a goddess. And that goddess then gives birth to the world somehow in some shape or form. And, you know, it's a little bit different in every mythos but it's either there are no entities present and the egg itself just opens and it is the firmament and it is earth, or a goddess emerges and creates it. And so, you know, I, I don't think that was an accident. I think that that moment happened on purpose and I don't think that, you know, Caesar's Superdome, where this divine feminine halftime show happened in what looks like an egg. That's what Caesar's Superdome looks like from an aerial view. I don't think that was an accident either. I think there has been ceremony after ceremony and ritual after ritual pushing us. There's been a, a Galactic Federation of Light angle that's been bolstering this, you know, telling people that they're soon going to be liberated and that there is a conglomeration of good aliens. And by the way, it always speaks from the POV of, of the feminine. It's always a maternal sounding voice. If they do it on YouTube or otherwise, it's always from the point of view of some sweet, caring, maternal figure that's going to, you know, just hold on, Earth. We're going to liberate you from this thing. Every angle that you look at, if you dig just a little bit, you can find evidence of this divine feminine. So, yeah, I agree, you know, it may not happen, and I'm not telling people that it's going to happen, but I'm just saying there is an overwhelming amount of bizarre evidence. And people who have been watching this show know that we've been harping continuously on this divine feminine aspect over and over again. I, I don't. It gives me a bit of an uneasy feeling, I suppose, in my spirit is, is what I'm trying to say, maybe something worth looking at. If you were going to look anything in the conspiratorial world, look at that and see if those elements make sense to you. And if it does, you know, this is something that you should pray on and you should ask God for guidance on and you should learn to protect yourself and resist it. And I think what you'll find is if you start to look into the things that are aimed at you in your life, whether it's media and music and video games and this and that, like, it's all there. It's all petitioning you constantly.
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B
It's, it's weird because in, in a way, like opposing this system, this divine feminine system, which I, I used to do a lot more, but I think, I think you've already like, nailed all of every single corner of It. But by opposing it and putting that to rest, you're bringing about the thing that will kill it. And we know what will kill it.
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A
Oh, the beast system.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like this, the. The Whore of Babylon goes away. And we're watching that and we're supposed to want this thing to go away, but as we push it away, what replaces it is this final thing. And I don't know what that looks like, but again, it's just more of like. It's more of like an invitation because of this curiosity. Like we were given a time frame and we go, I can't do this anymore. I need my Netflix back. Need some better stories in my life. So we push that out. But what replaces it will be that final iteration. I don't know.
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A
I saw somebody in the chat say it is interesting to note that, like, one of the bigger conspiracies about Easter is that it's actually a fertility holiday surrounding the. The goddess Ishtar.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Who is one of these interchangeable characters, I'd imagine so. You know, just another anecdotal straw on the camel's back. And I'm not saying that it's going to break, but I'm just saying, isn't that fascinating?
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B
Something, something else I did want to add. I wasn't aware of Bledsoe's story. It's sad being told, like the whole freak out and then being told that he, like, you agreed. So now you get to, I don't know, tell the story about these orbs. But we interviewed Colin a long time ago. He's a friend of the show.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And he has a similar story where they're. They basically had him on an operating table of some sort and he's freaking out and they told him, calm down, you consented to this. And his story is that he was upgraded for some type of a war. So it's just like it's consistently this. I think still to this day, he thinks it's.
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A
It's good.
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B
Yeah. It's a good thing that's happening or has. Has happened to him.
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A
But because he's been chosen, upgraded, he's agreed.
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C
Right. And. And we're indoctrinated as abductees. We are indoctrinated with alien propaganda. And then it's actually our job to go out and spread alien propaganda. The abductees job is to usher in all of the alien propaganda that's possible. The aliens are the good guys. They're here to save us. We need to raise our vibration, all of that kind of stuff. It's just all alien propaganda. But that's our job. And so, and it's very hard to break away from that, from that mind control and from the propaganda. And look, in Chris's case they told him from, he was from some star past Andromeda or some kind of nonsense like that. So that his pre story is all typical alien propaganda from abductions. So then we want to separate the lady out of it, which we can't do because the lady actually takes credit for causing, for sending these creatures. So remember, his whole family was plagued with shadow people after his abduction. We know, we don't know where there are other abductions before. I mean the research shows that he was likely an abductee as a child, but we don't know that his family's plagued by, by shadow people. And the lady actually takes credit for that. She says, I orchestrated all of these things in your life to get to this point where he, he's crying out again in that weird desperation sadness that seems to attract these things. And yeah, she tells him, you made an agreement. Well, that's alien propaganda. That's what the aliens tell every single abductee. You consented to this in a previous life or you consented to this when you were four years old. You know, you have a previous life contract. It, if it was coming from anywhere else we would all recognize it for the propaganda it is. But because it's coming from the so called aliens, you know, we want to accept it as true. So it's unfortunate but, and I'm with you, we, you know, I'm, I'm not even, I don't even know If I'm a 50 50. Like could something happen? Maybe it will, maybe it won't. I would like to know what's going to happen to his devotees if 2026 passes and nothing happens. If the lady does not show up. You know, he has people who write to him for healings and ask him to pray for them. I mean this is a pretty serious, I mean I would call it a cult. It's a pretty serious thing that's happening with people. He's going to make a movie. And so remember his job is to spread, spread the word that in the words are this type of phenomenon is benevolent and if people believe it's not benevolent then we're going to go down a very bad road. So this is his job is to spread this message. He's doing a, he's, he's doing pretty good, pretty good with it. I mean we'll see 2026 will probably come and go and nothing happens. And then we have to ask ourselves, well, okay, did she lie to you, Chris? You know, were you manipulated or. She has enough power to actually make something happen this year, and I don't know the answer to that. Most of the time, these dates from these prophets, they come and they go, and absolutely nothing happens. So that's probably where we're at. But if the final battle is potentially between this divine feminine energy, this Sophia, you know, the Hathor like you talked about, Elron Hubbard, who was invoking Haor himself in the blood ritual. So this is my personal opinion. You know, there's a lot of connections there. There's a lot of overlap with this entity. Maybe she shows up. Who knows?
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A
Well, yeah, I. I do want to say, on the topic of. Of the Bledsoon, maybe after this, we'll start bringing it in for a landing, but it is. It's. It's sad, right? It's a horrifying experience. And not only is it a horrifying experience for you, they've taken your son, they're doing things to your family. So when I talked about how scary this experience is for. For the individual, you know, in my own experience, I was able to contain it until it happened to my. My wife, too. And then. And then, even then, I was still. Okay, We've got a. You know, you're in problem solving mode. What do I do about this thing that's happening? It's. It's intangible, it's spiritual. Is it even real?
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B
I wonder, fast, if you would have, like, stalled a bit longer, if you would have been presented some sort of a choice or a way to make.
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A
It stop, at least, or a deal.
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B
From. Yeah, from it.
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A
I don't know. But it moved on to my son. And that was like. I mean, it's like you have a thing. It's. It's so horrifying, and you think you can't get any worse, and it gets worse, and you think it can't get any worse, and it gets even worse. Now it's happening to people that you're supposed to protect. So in that way, I have a lot of. I appealed to Jesus Christ in a desperate way, and it changed my life forever. And in fact, it's. It's probably the most pivotal moment that ends up putting me here, you know, talking to people like you and making this show. But I have a great deal of sympathy for that level of fear. You know, we're just going through our lives. We're just working jobs And. And trying to get along, and that's hard enough and stressful enough and traumatic enough for this sort of thing to happen, and you don't know who to turn to. And if you're not grounded in Christ, you're lost in the ocean. So, yeah, man. I mean, I've made fun of him. I've done my show, the Raven, where I've made fun of Ryan. Bled so relentlessly well, and it's what I do. It's just in my nature to mock things. It's who I am. But, you know, just to peel that back for a second, I. There's no way to convey to the audience or anybody how. How horrifying horror is not even the word of a situation that must be. They've taken you, they've taken your son, Things are happening to your family, and you see a way out, and it's. It's. It's packaged nice, right? Like it is packaged nice. And you're looking for relief. You're looking for a thing to. To. To. To lean on any glimmer of hope. And this thing goes, yeah, I got it for you. I got some hope. All this will stop. Just go out and spread this good news. This good news. Like, yeah, man, I mean, I'm gonna mock you still. You know what I mean? I'm still gonna do shows. I'm gonna make fun of the bledsos, but, like, dude, I do not envy them. I don't remember.
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C
She presented herself as the Holy Spirit, and this man was a Christian. And by the way, this man was rejected by his church because of this incident. So they basically right into her arms, right? And I'm sure he thinks he's doing the right thing. I was presented with so many, so much of the same thing. You know, this is actually Christianity. It's just a little bit more modern view. It's more repackaged, you know, and then going down that road of the Gnosticism and the Luciferianism, it was the same programming that was coming from at least one side of it was this entity downloaded itself into my body. So this seems to be her program, its program. We don't know what entities are behind this divine feminine imposter of the Holy Spirit. What's powering her up, what's propping her up? What's behind that entity? I can tell you that I have encountered an extremely powerful entity, way much more powerful than this divine feminine thing that downloaded herself into my body. And it's downright frightening how much power this thing had. So much so that it didn't even have to show its power. It was just known how much power was inherent in this thing. And so I think that in my personal opinion, someday the prophecies and the Christian scriptures will come true. The book of Revelation. It will happen. Are we being set up for that right now? I don't know. This could just be some other whack job who was contacted by the aliens who say they're coming and, you know, or the Hale Bop Comet, you know, all these conspiracies, and then none of it happens. And sometimes ends in tragedy. But the date could come and go. I don't know. But the way he's setting her up with this thousand years of peace and all this kind of nonsense that's coming.
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A
Out, which, by the way, it's an inversion of the millennial reign of Christ.
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C
Absolutely. Telling us she's the Holy Spirit. Yeah. I just want to say, hey, if it happens, please take a step back. Do not follow the prophet. Do not follow the entity. Just stop and ask yourself, does any of this smell right at all?
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A
Yeah, well, I think that's really important to be saying right now. I don't know where this goes, but.
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B
Isn'T it crazy, like, to be in the church your whole life and then something tell you that it is the Holy Spirit and you believe it with your whole heart? It's a. It's a huge problem. And I think maybe the church was right for kicking him out. You know, biblically, it's. It's harsh, but that's kind of what it says.
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A
Well, they're also not armed to help him. The average church, armed to deal. I mean, think about our church.
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B
They're not, but they. Their instruction is to kick him out.
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A
Oh, yeah. He's gonna start spreading New Age Gnosticism within the church.
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B
Yeah. Yeah. And you haven't armed your church, most likely, with the ability to battle this nonsense, but they. The door should still be open for him after he's. Maybe after 20, 26, and you lose your following and you've been beat up by life because nothing really came true. Hopefully somebody welcomes you back in.
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A
I was watching a video of him, and I was like, this dude's likable.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Chris Bledsoe is. Is a likable dude. He's just got, like, a way about him. I was making fun of his son, primarily, and then when I watched a Chris Bled Bledsoe video, because I wasn't previously aware of him, I was like, this is. This is a likable guy, you know, It's a huge bummer when you were saying, I didn't know that. I mean, I, you know, obviously I knew something happened to him and he's in contact with that. I didn't know that happened to him. And yeah, it's just like you listen to a lot of testimony.
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C
For me, it's an important message that I went from being the most conservative, Bible believing Christian that I could possibly have been. And next thing I knew, I was straight up into the new age. And at my. I'm 57 years old, you guys. I was over 50 years old when I changed my life pattern, my thinking, and I was open up, open to this type of thing. And so it can happen to anybody and it can happen to Christians. And so many Christians think, oh, if you just had enough faith, it wouldn't be happening. Or if you just hadn't done this or that, it wouldn't be happening. And that's all a bunch of nonsense. It can happen to anyone. And we are all vulnerable to this deception that might be coming our way. It's coming into a lot of people's lives daily, you know, through this alien propaganda, through the new age propaganda. But it, it could come through in a very big way. Maybe in our lifetimes, maybe not. I don't know. I don't, I don't make predictions. I don't set dates. I just observe, you know, and if.
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B
People, if people are listening now and they're like, well, not me, if you can't feel that pull, if you don't feel that from time to time you're not paying attention, that's probably, that's probably a really dangerous place to be because there is a constant pull. There is always something in the, in the back of your mind. Like, even though I do know this very real truth, if this thing does reveal itself, like, put your. Really try to be objective with yourself. If that thing is there and it is presenting you a deal and this is like realer than real life, what are you going to do when it's time to, when it's time to actually make that decision?
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A
It's going to show you incredible things.
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B
It'll show you incredible things. And most people, I mean, you know, even situationally, they're like, I would do this. And it's like, well, when presented in real life. No, you wouldn't. And this is just rhetorical stuff. Like, what would you say? Would you say no to a deal? Would you say, when the mob comes for you, this is all light stuff and people follow all the time. This is going to be really heavy and people aren't ready. People also don't really. You know, we could read the Bible as much as we want, but you have to kind of like understand who God is. And I still don't all the time. I feel like you have to constantly like talk and reintroduce yourself to God to understand what he is so that you stay in relationship with him. Because when you don't, it's, it's a weird thing. Like you kind of like forget and stray.
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A
Forget the face of your father.
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B
Forget the face of your father. Yeah, it's very easy to do.
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A
Yeah, I, you know, who knows, maybe if I had gone an extra day after that event with my son, I would have been offered like a deal, but I folded and, and appealed to Jesus Christ too quickly, you know, because that came on the tail end of 15 years of conspiracy sleuthing and new age information and all this crap.
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B
Probably didn't think you would do that.
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A
They probably didn't think I would fold so fast or they probably didn't think.
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B
You, you even had that in your, your playbook.
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A
I mean, I didn't, I wasn't raised that way. It wasn't something that I had ever seriously went into. It was just like it messed with my kid and I had no other recourse. But you know, something else I want to say too, I think they never.
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B
Know what this guy's going to say. I mean, that's, that's really what it comes down to.
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A
I do think that this phenomenon has a handle and this, this might be like self congratulatory, but this is something that I hear a lot and it makes sense because a lot of the people that this happens to are charismatic in some way, shape or form and can be a good mouthpiece. I think they pick people who would be a problem if they were on the other side. Those are like the, the main targets. And maybe that's just me trying to give myself a pat on the back or, or, but like we have these conversations with people that have went through this, or I listen to testimony from people that have gone through this and they, I, I often think to myself, well, like, yeah, this is somebody you want to try to get on your side because they have a way with speaking or they have a way with presenting things, or they have a fire in their heart for, you know, that ends up being a little bit. What's the word you want to follow it? An influence. An influencer says really stupid shitty word, influencer. But there is A type. A character type for that, a. A set of attributes. And I think that, you know, they're looking for mouthpieces. Are they going to pick people that are mutes? No, they're going to pick people that have a certain, you know, knack for speech or that have a. A certain charisma about them. That would be a good addition to it. And so. And I think that a lot of those times those people are targeted since childhood. So, you know, maybe that's part of the determining factor. Who knows? But I think that's a good place to leave it. Fringe. I want to thank you for your time. I want to thank you for talking about this in this time. Super important. And I hope that this serves somebody. I hope that it orients them the right way and that maybe you're out there listening and you were new age curious. It's enticing, and there's a lot of fantastic things, and who doesn't want to be special? But maybe you heard this and this spoke to something that you knew in your heart was true. I think a lot of us have that. We know in our heart there's something wrong here. You know, maybe even Chris Bledsoe has that in his heart. I'm sure he does. But, you know, we. You operate in the physical, material realm, and you got to make choices. Maybe you're making the wrong choice. You can unmake that. Luckily, our God is the God of forgiveness, and so, you know, come out of her because it's about to get real, in my opinion. So thank you, Fringe. Before we go, where can people find.
- [112:45]
C
You on x fringe.com x Twitter. That's where I'm at. And thanks, you guys. I appreciate being here.
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A
Thank you very much. I appreciate you. All right, let's get out here.
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B
Absolutely, guys. Thank you again. Great episode. And don't forget to obey, submit, and comply. We'll see you later.
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C
Death.
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A
When the last trumpet sound in the heaven.