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Nephilim Death Squad
The Free Range MK-Ultra Chickens w/ Grey Area Monarch
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In this explosive episode of Nephilim Death Squad, The Raven and Top Lobsta sit down with Grey Area Monarch, co-founder of OrganizedSafety.org, to expose the dark reality behind MK-Ultra, Project Monarch, and the GATE Program. Grey pulls back the...
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David Lee Corbo
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven that is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. Before we get into today's guest, a little reminder. Sometime around the half an hour mark, we're going live exclusively to Patreon.com forward slash, Nephilim death Squad.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Join the podcast.
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David Lee Corbo
Join the Pop cap, the blop, the black, the pod Lap. If you want to continue watching the episode, this is where you want to be. Ad free viewing experiences. Early access. Two episodes. Early access to Bohemian Grove Tickets when they drop. We're looking at the first week of March. Tentatively. Tentatively. All right. But we're figuring it out, and things are going. We'll have a VIP day. We'll have the main performance day. You want to be there for your tickets. There's also a discount code off of merchandise from Top lobster dot com. Which shirt are you wearing? Oh, MK Ultra Chickens. Free range MK Ultra Chickens.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Let's just do this. Yeah. Free range MK Ultra Chickens pertains to today. This. I actually chose it for today.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh, you did that on purpose. Yeah. That's an. All right.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
I know. Like, I'm like. I have an idea what we're going to talk about today. It's this. You're not wearing any merch.
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David Lee Corbo
I really like the way it matches you. I'm gonna get. I'm gonna risk giving you a compliment. Look at that. Perfect.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
It's crazy because. No, no. It's almost unfair. I designed the shirt with those sneakers in mind.
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David Lee Corbo
Today's guest, despicable Dude.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Let's carry Gray area. Monarch is with us today. It's going to be a great episode. What's up, Gray? How you doing, man? What's up?
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Gray Area Monarch
How y' all doing? Thank you for having me.
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David Lee Corbo
I'm sorry that we just talked about his sneak.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
That.
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David Lee Corbo
That. That's. That's a. I can't. I almost can't imagine going on.
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Gray Area Monarch
Got a little matching going on.
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David Lee Corbo
Don't. Don't feed into him, please. Great, great. Before we get into this conversation.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Nice.
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David Lee Corbo
Right it's nice. It's actually terrible. It's diabolical. He's designing the T shirts after the sneakers that he owns.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
This man, this man is dressed like wallpaper right now as rude. That's very rude. Great. Tell us a little. Tell us a little bit about yourself, man. Welcome to the show.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, where can people find you? What do you do?
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Gray Area Monarch
What's up? Yeah, I mean, you can find me at Gray Area Monarch on X. And, you know, I co founded Organized Safety, which essentially right now is just a intake form. Organized safety.org and what that is, is that is an end to end encrypted anonymous platform to where survivors of MK Ultra and related projects, insiders, whistleblowers, defectors, specialists, anybody with information can make anonymous reports, person interest, locations of interest, other reports of interest, or just click Help Organize Safety if you, you know, want to help out the cause. But essentially what we've created is an anonymous intake platform and you can opt in for notification if information you submit is cooperated. So know a lot of people behind the scenes, you have, you have all these issues like, you know, whether it be Epstein, whether it be Nygard, whether it be Nassar, right. With the, you know, the Olympic gymnast, whether it be Sand Dusky with the wrestlers, whether it be the Catholic Church, whether it be the boy scouts with 80,000 victims, whether it be all of this that's been going on getting covered up under the rug because individually people got singled out and quashed. Right. And just covered up. What we got is to where behind the scenes, anonymously, people can collaborate and, and unite and build up cases, whether it be blind, whether it be a preponderance of evidence for civil cases, whether it be burden of proof for criminal cases, and kind of get that evidence built up with other people before deciding to come forward. And that way you can do it in a more effective way. And then in addition, you're just kind of helping people that are really fighting for the cause put together and map the network and, you know, kind of apply pressure in different ways on the back end. So. So we've been running that privately for over a decade. I'm teamed with people that have been doing it for over three decades. And we're just, you know, really making the push for actionable solutions and doing something with the information that we all have and kind of unifying as. As safely and as effectively as possible.
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David Lee Corbo
That.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
I love that. Yeah, no, because. Well, I got a couple questions like, I guess the first one is what gets you into it, but also Want to give you kudos, you and your wife. Emma is. Emma.
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Gray Area Monarch
Emma.
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David Lee Corbo
Catherine.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Emma Catherine, yeah. She does a lot of work with SRA victims and victims of this kind of abuse, which is just like I, I listen in to a lot of the spaces and I'm like, it's rough, dude.
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David Lee Corbo
It's heavy. It's heavy. Yeah, yeah.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
And I've heard you a couple times, I think, most most recently on Tinfoil Hat. So I'm a little familiar with your story. I'm interested to get into it. How do you get into this? What makes you open up a website like this a decade ago? Because this is a. It's a dangerous thing to do.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, sure.
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Gray Area Monarch
Yeah. So I mean, you know, just bird's eye view. So, you know, like many people, I had a up childhood, you know, one, I was a Jehovah's Witness. I was raised Jehovah's Witness, which is, you know, right. Weird, right, to say.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, my wife's an ex Jehovah's Witness.
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Gray Area Monarch
Yeah. So yeah, you get it. You know, pretty controlled situation, like a lot of these. And then other than that, unfortunately, you know, I just had a horrible childhood where I was subject to a lot of abuse. You know, as a male, what did I do? Naturally turned that to anger. Right. Turn that to drive, you know, and, you know, try to become successful and, you know, even got into elements of the criminal underworld. Long story short, all I really wanted to do was bad people up, like, you know, like. And it got to the point to where, like, I was kind of wanting to do that as legitimately as possible. I had a lot of family, friends and people that kind of came into my life, especially around my teen years and, you know, had kind of helped me out in different ways. Long story short, I tried to join the clandestine services when this all came to fruition in my early 20s. Long story short, as soon as I got sworn in off books and was a knock right non official cover embedded in the criminal underworld, a lot of personal favors started coming into the equation. Uh, it was incredibly dirty, more than I could ever imagine. Um, and simultaneously and, and you know, my status in the legal underworld off books was being leveraged against me to do these personal favors. Um, simultaneously I found out, hey, my childhood wasn't just random horrible abuse. Um, I actually had been through a behavioral modification program. I had been brainwashed. And you know, this all just came just to a horrible, uh, you know, violent collision of, you know, my own personalities in my head. You know, I found out I had split personalities Again, had been through this and you know, things went real bad. So anyways, long story short, I was legitimately imprisoned. I was falsely imprisoned as well due to clerical errors when I tried to whistleblow on this. Finally when I got released, got my record fixed, I gathered with other people that had, you know, also kind of helped me out of the program and helped me find out that I was in the program in the first place. And I kind of piggybacked and expounded on the work of Valerie wolf at the 1995 achre, that's the advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experimentation at a presidential hearing in 1995. Valerie Wolfe was a therapist who presented evidence from 40 nationwide therapists and hundreds of their clients that was blindly cooperating, meaning their information matched without them knowing each other. And there was non public details that were brought forward. And you know, it's about child mind control, about behavioral modification, about MK Ultra and MK Ultra research derived programs that were operational and ongoing. So essentially we said, okay, this is what we need to do. We need to build up this cooperative evidence, this cooperative testimony, blindly cooperative from people that don't know each other and how can we do this? So I started networking with nationwide trauma therapists. This is where a lot of these people surface, you know, and then just other insiders, other specialists, other survivors. I had already been plugged into the network so knew a lot of people that were still in the system but disillusioned with it and were happy to, you know, do anything they could, right, to take a shot back at it. So anyways, over time it evolved to where we first were like, you know, getting specific survivor information and stuff like that. Obviously for safety reasons that didn't, you know, that wasn't the best way to go. So over time it evolved to, hey, you know, you know, we're going to get information of the locations, the perpetrators, you know, of certain program aspects that are non public. And it evolved into this intake form to where people can submit anonymously, but then they can create like a new email address and opt in to be notified. So if someone names someone, someone, a perpetrator someone names a specific location, a specific program aspects especially things that are, aren't public, right? Because if you name the Clintons, right, that's one thing, right? Every, you know, hey, you're piggybacking stuff. But if you name someone that isn't public, that hasn't been accused publicly and then 10 other people name it, well that's starting to have some strong validity, you know. So then obviously that happens. We have people then at Organized Safety Liaison will vet everybody and then connect people you know in the background, get together and decide, hey, do we want to pursue this? Do you know what are the criminal statutes that may have been broken? Is there a civil case which is less, you know, which is a lower level of evidence that's needed, you know, to be successful and just, you know, mapping out the network and seeing what we can do, you know, a lot of briefing bureaucrats on the back end and trying to find pockets of people that are, aren't shit and you know, that will actually stand up and do the right thing, which is, you know, few and far between in the world of bureaucrats and politicians. And even at the top level is specific areas of law enforcement. Because a lot of these areas are compromised with red tape by design by the, or actually by personnel and strategic positions. But yeah, so anyways, my direct involvement, that's what led me to it. Not giving a, about any of the consequences, anything. Deciding to do it as safe and effective as possible to cover my ass, but also willing to take any risks. You know, you would have to kill me to shut me up. You have to kill me to stop me. You know, I don't care. This stuff has gone on long enough. It's. If people look into where these survivors surface, the hard information of the therapeutic community which are actively targeted as well, if speak out, you know, whether it be their licenses or other even dirtier aspects to shut them up, you know, there's, it's clear that there needs to be some sort of actionable situation, like someone needs to be doing something. So I started, you know, I'm very, a solution oriented, right. So you know, I just put it together along again with other people that have been doing this for three decades. So now, you know, it's gone on for a little bit over a decade and in 2022 we started bringing it public to where there's a form a website people can just go to instead of like on the back end networking through the therapeutic community and specialists and, and so on and so forth.
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David Lee Corbo
What, what program were you a part of when you were a child that you ended up finding out later on in life? And did you ever find out how you came to be inserted into that program?
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Gray Area Monarch
Yeah. So here's the deal is there's a lot of programs and I'm not going to be naming things that aren't public because that kills the validity and taints kind of like, you know, kind of like the way we vet people if they name it behind the scenes. Right. But the one that is public is Monarch. Again, that's been water down, like greatly. And we can kind of get into what Monarch is because there's Monarch mind control, which really builds off like artichoke and has like different exact mind control mechanisms in there. But Monarch itself is actually a breeding and placement program. But so I was a part of.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
What do you mean by breeding?
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Gray Area Monarch
So I mean, you know, people are line bred, like just like working dogs are bred, right? Just like, you know, horses are bred, you know, just like different things there. People are being bred selectively. A large part of that is disassociation is hereditary. But there's also, like, traits, there's aptitudes, there are things that are passed down. You know, just like if your last name's Baker somewhere back there in the generation, right. Maybe your people were bakers, maybe your people were blacksmiths. You get it? So, yeah, no, there's a breeding program to. Where people are generationally bred and there'll be subtle, you know, interferences and, you know, intercessions where, you know, things happen. Right. There's breeding programs that exist. I mean, it's just a thing and placement, obviously, you know, just like monarchs rule territories, there's placements whether people be placed in legislative, executive and judicial to unite the powers that are meant to be separate within a corrupt group. Right. So they can get their way. Or whether people are placed in, you know, as a newscaster, as an anchor. Right. If people are placed for a major podcast or if people are placed, you know, into the sports world, whatever it is. So it's breeding.
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David Lee Corbo
But these things, they're done in a way, right? Where like when you imagine a breeding program, you almost imagine people locked in a facility, you know, going through this is much more like to, you know, to kind of pay homage to the shirt. Like a free range situation where these people have to be able to live a life that at least affords them the illusion that this isn't the case, that they're controlling it yeah, because I think if you, you know, people do escape from it and they do say, like I was part of a family that, you know, engages in this sort of thing. NATHAN REYNOLDS but the best operation is one where like, you know, a child can reach adulthood and have very little inclination that that was the case. Or at least if they do have an inclination, certainly not to the scale that it actually happened to them. So it's like a free range situation, right? I mean these, these aren't, you know.
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Gray Area Monarch
By large and far. By large and far, yes, it's a free range situation. If you want to equate to that. There is, you know, deep underground military bases. There's like specific lockdown programs and labs with controls and isolated situations, all that that, you know, wouldn't be Monarch as much. Monarch. Yes, it's much more free range situation. Really. What is it to just stall? It's, you know, to where the, you know, the sum of the pieces is more than. More than just what they add up to be individually. Yes, it is. It's a self replicating machine. It's a self replicating, self enforcing autonomous machine that's meant to span generations. Right. Anybody's expendable. People have hierarchies programmed within them and the most suitable goes in to fill a spot when someone is removed from it. Yes, it's a free reign situation. There's very subtle interference. You know, there's, you know, a lot of matchmaking. I mean if you even look in some parts of the world, it's typical for like cultures to join families and to kind of arrange marriages and things like this. Well, if you get into high up families, you know, even in the U.S. still, that's not so far fetched to where like people are kind of routed together. But you have a lot, you know, especially in recent years, it's went from a little bit more for situations and routed situations to where now even, you know, at the cutting edge. People that have been in these programs, you know, they are subconsciously routed to fertility clinics. Right. And then you have a fertility, you have fertility fraud. A lot of is going on which feeds into this breeding program. But yeah, most people, 99 of people in Monarch are not aware. There is the 1% that actually do become aware. And they go through a process called going conscious, which is essentially completing the cycle and then stepping into this. And that tends to be the most psychopathic, most successful on people at the tip of the pyramid. They do consciously step into this and then know what they're involved with.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Like a Charles Manson.
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Gray Area Monarch
But the majority of. No, Charles Manson would not. Even if he.
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David Lee Corbo
We're talking about. About, like, world leaders, maybe.
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Gray Area Monarch
Right, about world leaders. We're talking about industry moguls, stuff like this. Yeah, like. Like, essentially, like, people get forced to do, like, a certain ritual as a kid. Right? Like, just like, take this, for example. You have, like, Amish people, they go through Rum Springa. You know. You know what that is? To where.
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David Lee Corbo
I'm actually not familiar with Rum Springer.
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Gray Area Monarch
So people, when they come of age, they'll have a chance to go into society and experience that, and then they can change and live it.
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David Lee Corbo
Or.
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Gray Area Monarch
Or that Catholics get confirmed. Right. You have, like, different cultures to where children are kind of forced into it. Then as an adult, when they come of age, there's, like, a rite of passage where they can decide to do it. So in Monarch, there's actually a step, too, to where, like, people that have went through it, if they've been chosen, if they've been vetted and they fit, you know, they tick all the psychopathic boxes and, you know, they think they can actually bring them into the fold, right into the club and actually, like, consciously. Because if you get involved at a certain level, there's no way to hide it and to not realize what you're a part of. Like, right. If you go into this full time and you're 24 7, like, making dirty moves, like, you have to be read in. You have to be aware, and you have to decide to do this because there is justification and there is, like, you know, a way to look at things to where, like, this makes sense. Right. Even the evil people, like, don't look at themselves, like the worst pieces of. Even if on aspects they do, like, right. They. They justify what they do. So, like, there. There's actually a process in going conscious. Essentially, one of the most major rituals that people go through as a child to where they're forced to do it and maybe a hand is. And, you know, helping them along to do something. They revisit that ritual, and then they are, you know, the orchestrator of it. And then they take charge and lead it. And then when they do that, essentially, it connects neuron pathways just like, you know, smell or remind something or this and that. Yeah. Going conscious is essentially a specific ritual that they revisit and take charge in and orchestrate it and control it. And then they kind of step into the fold and go through this and. And yes. And then at that point, they kind of have, like, a merging of, you know, the back end and the fore end. So, yes, there are people that do become aware of this. And I know we got into this from the breeding program, but. Yeah. So 99 of people are unaware what they're a part of. They're largely subconsciously manipulated. Even if some of that, like. Even if it's kind of like from a split personality that takes orders but kind of lives in the subconscious when it's not pulled up in a. In a certain circumstance. Right. So most people are unaware, but there is a minority that are actually, you know, the head orchestrators of this that do become fully conscious and know what they're involved in. But. Yeah, so the breeding is. Is covertly orchestrated for by large and far.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Would you say people like Sabrina Carpenter are conscious of this? I mean, this is just one person that's come across our table that seems like she's been accused of being bred into this to fulfill this role. And then the moves that they make going forward from now till who knows how far this person will go. They're conscious of what they're doing, and they understand their role in it. And another person that sort of comes to mind in this possible program is maybe even, like, Erica Kirk. Somebody mentioned her in the chat. Yeah, just another person that I'm looking at that comes from this odd family background is.
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David Lee Corbo
She's on tv. She's on, like, Love Island. No, it's not Love Island. I've been saying Love Island. It's another one I forget, with the Summer House, you know, which is like a big Netflix show. And. And yeah, a lot of it is really strange. If you look into her, she's.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
She's part of that music video. Really did it for soulless symbolism. I'm just kind of like, that's just.
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David Lee Corbo
Which one. Is that the Sabrina Carpenter one?
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
No, Erica Kirk was in a music video that she, like, she's by where the Vegas shooting was.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh, yeah. So she's in the music video.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
She blinds past Summer House.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
On Fremont Street. There's. She zip lines past, like, a huge 9, 10. That must have been the time when she does it. But that's also the day that her husband. And I'm just like.
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David Lee Corbo
She's also in Donald Trump's, like, modeling agency. Very weird, but a lot of weird.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Definitely somebody that is like.
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Gray Area Monarch
Like you're saying her. Her. Erica Kirk's Family Ties. You know, you. You have some serious boxes ticked.
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David Lee Corbo
Okay.
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Gray Area Monarch
When you're getting into the Raytheon, you're getting into all that. And here's the thing is, like, a lot of this conditioning. You know, obviously you have age old occult stuff like that's been going on. And you have family dynasties in the same bloodlines which you know, kind of like makes some people turned off. They have a hang up about that. But it's like, hey, you know, family dynasties have been running things for a long time, right. So you have like age old occult methods are brought into this. But really on the MK Ultra aspect really got industrialized post World War II, right. And a lot of these techniques were brought forth into the military intelligence industrial complex is specifically safeguarding certain programs like, like our nuclear programs, Manhattan Project, so on and so forth. Because they can't just trust people not to talk, right? So like there's certain conditioning. You have different levels. You have behavioral modification that just encourages silence and compliance and then have some fail safes to where people self regulate. If they disclose unauthorized information, they'll have some post hypnotic suggestions that basically make them go crazy and confuse their disclosure and discredit themselves. And then if that doesn't work, you know, kind of suicide themselves, something like this. But then you have your full blown Manchurian Candidate programming. So Erica Kirk, just coming from a family that was high up in this. It's not just personnel in these black projects and you know, this, this, you know, national security, you know, intertwined, you know, non governmental organizations, it's also their families. Okay, this is no joke. Like this is just the way it is in these people, you know, are brought through similar institutions and they're you know, brought up through the same pipelines. So yeah, I'd be looking at her for this as far as. Okay, so is she one that would go conscious? Sabrina Carpenter, much less likely to be going conscious. What for? And how much is she really controlling? She's used by far and large as a puppet. No offense.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, she says she claims that she doesn't know like the nature of like she's doing a music video. It's got like this, this homage to a. Basically a movie about a pedophilic relationship between a, you know, a dude and a young girl.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Lolita, right?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, Lolita. And she's like, oh, I didn't even know that. So it's like just to, to add to what you're saying, it's like she just seems like she's. Yeah, but I'm maybe in the fame.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
And I guess the question is like how much of I I didn't know. And then it's like, oh, so just coincidence upon coincidence is like at some.
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Gray Area Monarch
Point you are getting into the industry. I mean, you have some people that literally just listen to their manager, listen to the directors, listen to producers, have some people that they pair with and work with and trust them as a creative designer. Then you have some people that really want to take charge and get intertwined and then they go on to become a producer, a director themselves. Right, so you know actors, some people. Yes, exactly. They go on to take full creative ownership and that's always verified with them. They go do it. They're much more likely to actually go conscious and consciously be a part of this. You, other, other people, you know, they're just tunnel vision. They just focus on their specific role in this and let other people manage it down to the creativity. Right. So like what exactly is she doing? I don't know because I'm not very familiar with her, but what loosely I am. I don't think she's one of those that's like OCD managing every detail to herself and very insistive of that. And I don't think she's going in the pipeline to where she wants to be a producer, a director, a writer and kind of control this. Right, but you have some people that do go on to do that. Now, Erica Kirk, she's being groomed and stepping into the role to have a lot of sway and a lot of position that. Or is she just really a puppet and listening to everybody around her and completely managed? I don't know and I haven't really went into this enough to look at it, but it just at a glance, from what little I do know, Erica Kirk would be much more of a likely candidate for going conscious and stepping into a role than I think Sabrina Carpenter would. And that's just completely, you know me, just. I would agree with that. Little I do know.
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David Lee Corbo
I would agree with that. I, I want to ask you about this.
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David Lee Corbo
You know, sort of the patterns that emerge when you have this data chunking website like you do and there's all this testimony coming through and certainly you have consistent patterns emerging. I'd Imagine that's part of your vetting process too, if this starts to adhere to what a bunch of other people are saying. But before we get there, there is, I understand, the psychological component of maybe, let's say, inducing trauma to cause a disassociative state. And when that happens, a second programmable personality emerges. I think that the Project Monarch symbol of the butterfly is meant to represent the hemispheres of the brain. Right. The wings of the butterfly. And there's something about, like, Hemi sinking and, and, and really, like, there's this scientific slash psychological manipulation of the human condition that allows for, like, a plethora of things, whether it's a Manchurian Candidate or, you know, you name it, that all makes sense. But then there is this other component that people in the research field, if they want to maintain credibility, don't touch that much. And that component is the spiritual component. And when you get to that, it, it looks a lot like demonic possession. It looks a lot like channeling entities.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
And talking about binaural beats, like all.
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David Lee Corbo
Sorts of things like that. And it's like, you know, I, I have a lot of respect for these people that are delving into this field, especially trying to bring attention to the people, the victims of these programs. But, and it's, you know, it's even called satanic ritual abuse. But the most credible researchers out there have it, the, the deck stacked against them because as soon as you start talking about demonic possession, entities, channeling any of these things, you're going to start to lose credibility. But it's a huge component.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
I'm sure if you brought that, like, if you led with that, with some of the people that are giving you this evidence into your website, they'd probably be like, this guy's crazy. Because it's like, if you see that at the bottom, I think you have to ease people into that.
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David Lee Corbo
I mean, I imagine the, the victims have experienced it, and probably a lot of them are like, it's one thing to say, hey, I was part of this shady program that the government is funding and it's operating in this way. Right. You know, in front of us, but we're not willing to look at it. It's another thing to say, and by the way, the things that I've experienced are in many cases inherently demonic. So can you talk a little bit about that spiritual component? How does that apply? Is that something that really does poke its head up as often as maybe a couple of crazy dudes think it does?
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Gray Area Monarch
Yeah. So, I mean, here's the thing is, because I mean, obviously, and I hate using cliche terms like rabbit hole, but this is a whole rabbit hole. This is a whole topic of itself. And there's many different ways to understand it. I mean, just like, you know, you take religion, you have a wide variety of beliefs and like no one really, there are some people that stigmatize people, but like there's some really out there religious beliefs. And if you get to the core of these different religious ideologies, I mean, it kind of gets out there in each one in its own way really. So what do people believe? Here's just one for, you know, one aspect way to look at it is a lot of people grow up believing in Santa Claus, right? Okay, well, people that are brought up in this different, more tribal culture that are, you know, taught different things in this, they may have grown up going through certain initiations and going through certain rituals and rites of passage and so on and so forth to where they did invocations in a ritualistic ceremony. And they believe that they became inhabited with certain, you know, entities, with certain parasitic entities, with certain energetic viruses that they in infested themselves, they infected themselves with certain parasitic entities that they infested themselves with and so on and so forth. So now is the reality to that. It doesn't matter if there's reality too or not. Because if you get a little kid and you hypnotize him and he grow and you grow up believing that he's filled with satanic power, that little kid is going to be hell to deal with regardless. There's a placebo effect if it's not a real effect. So really what does it matter in the long term now? Okay, so is this stuff real? Is it out there? I mean, you know, we see this much of the spectrum, right? Of, of, you know, this much of the spectrum, right? You don't see the data flowing to your phone. You, you don't see a lot. You don't even see what's microscopic, such as parasites and stuff like this. So are there other forces out there and all that? I mean, I think that most people that partake in any mainstream religion would say yes, that there are on different levels. Now the nomenclature, the way that you describe is the way that you articulate that would be a lot of turn offs for people. But a lot of people describe the same thing in many different ways. Is there a spiritual component to this? Yes. Is it real? It's real as much that it affects people, whether this actual external spiritual entities and you know, consciousness that's affecting people. Or it's just internal placebo and just dark neuroscience mechanisms and behavioral neuroscience applied. To me, it doesn't matter because there is an effect of it. So you know, you can go on all day and go down that rabbit hole and have a deep understanding and this intertwined in religious ideology. But again, to me it doesn't matter because the point is that it has an effect and if you take a little kid and raise him a certain way, he's going to adhere to that in some way, shape or, or form.
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David Lee Corbo
I, I, I do want to talk about this a little bit more before we jump over because I agree it is such a, you know, yeah, rabbit hole is a fair terminology and it leads to so many different doorways. We've been talking about it in the past few episodes a lot. Nathaniel Gillis has a really good interpretation of these things, I think. And it's this idea, he calls it the phenomenon and it is willing to take form that is relevant to what you're most likely going to believe. And throughout this research of the MK Ultra programs, Project Monarch, the Gates program, anything like this, you get a plethora of different things. You get certainly demonic encounters. Right. But you also get very, what would you call it? Culture specific ones to your point, like the Egyptian Ennead, even though that's a little bit strange because that's a long since gone culture. But somehow this phenomenon has decided that maybe an individual will be more receptive to this. So being the nine gods that ruled over Egypt, that's one that keeps getting channeled or keeps getting bumped into. Certainly now with the popularization of, of, you know, UFOs, alien grays, that phenomenon popularized not only through, you know, strange happenings and, and UFO abductee testimony, but also through Hollywood. So it's really fleshed it out in people's minds like what this sort of thing looks like. So a lot of these people are also claiming this. I wonder, before we depart from this, could you say in your data chunking which of these things is coming up most often? And, and I'm not saying that it is thereby definitively that thing, but I think it's an interesting piece of information.
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Gray Area Monarch
Sure. So I mean, you know, it, it depends like with the age, with the age of the person that's involved. You know, kind of the younger, most contemporary thing is definitely more getting into like a more stricter alien, whether it be grays and you know, Nordics and things like this. That comes up a lot, you know, a little bit older. You definitely have a lot of The Egyptian rights and things like this. Getting in really broadly involved across the spectrum is a lot of this, like, kind of like, kind of like earth kind of like spirits and kind of like, you know, just, just really, you. You have a. You have a lot of people using different terms across the. Across different times to explain the same entities. Because a lot of these entities have different names across different cultures and things like this. But yeah, by large and far, the more younger, more contemporary thing is definitely pushing more into the alien, grays, Nordics and that sort of thing. And kind of like, you know, kind of like a, you know, ancient aliens sort of sort of aspect, right? And then a little bit further is more going into like, just, you know, the spirits and stuff like this. The basis for this, here's the other thing is that you have trends in the data from people that are kind of more newly aware subjects. And then you have people that say, at the more extreme spectrum have been through like disassociative trauma therapy for like a decade, right? So a lot of these people that have been through dissociative trauma therapy for a decade are finding out, hey, you know, I went through this, this specific function, and this was brainwashing. And essentially I was put through a hero's journey and I was, you know, drugged. And, you know, I had this technology, that Stanley Coren helmet, the God helmet, you know, kind of like, you know, manipulate my brain. And then I kind of went through this whole experience and vision and this was all inside. And then, you know, it's kind of like, you know, you find that these things are taking form of like, how, how it is effective to suggest to them. Well, it's funny because, you know, there's Ericksonian hypnosis, which is really going with someone, an Eric Sony script, kind of goes with their psyche because you don't want to go against the, the flow, right? You want to kind of go like, what do they already believe in with this? What can you piggyback on and ride with kind of like a keto? You're using their own movement against them, right? Because if you have to fight them tooth and nail and go against every single aspect, they're more likely going to break through and not agree with it. But if you go like, with it and then kind of try to steer their already, you know, existing beliefs, right, and their, you know, kind of tendencies, then it's a lot more effective. But, you know, really, like, you're. You're getting into this, like, by large and far, you're looking at anokian right? You're. That this is. Is really, really, really common. And you're looking at Solomon magic. You're looking at, you know, you're looking at the 72. Yes. Like this is, this is the basis because, you know, and you can look at biblical times, like, oh, Solomon, you can say, oh, the Solomon of the temple is the mind, isn't that. Well, really what this is is like, you know, I equate these people to cosmic fishermans, to where, you know, you'll have the five senses, right? And just like a fisherman will make a lure and craft it to catch a specific fish. These people, you know, will have a certain color, which colors are also on frequencies. You have different sound, a different hymn, different frequencies. They align these frequencies. You have a certain act or a sin, if you will. You have certain visual stimuli. You do all these different stimuli and then you go cosmic fishing for a certain thing that's out there, right? And essentially all these seals, what they do is they correspond to parts of the brain. Autonomous. Autonomous systems. You have just the different parts of the brain or corresponds to different demons that you can invoke and then you can kind of gain mastery over these parts of the brain and processes that are usually subconsciously and autonomously regulated. So a lot of this is kind of like brain hacking, if you will, right? To where you just go through this very weird trauma. But it's like a five pin. You have your five senses. It's like a five pin lock to where you have. Your pins are all aligned different than you go in and turn. And it opens that part of the mind and you have access to it. And you can kind of make subtle changes, change the, the settings. Right? So, yeah, but, so what you're really getting to across the board is you're looking at, you know, Solomon's Goetia, you're looking at the Lesser Key of Solomon. And then you're looking at the legiment and the Lego mention. I don't know the standard terms for these things, but you're looking at all that Solomon magic is. Is definitely the one. And then the Nokian. The Nokian system of protocols of communication, the Nokian magic, which is, you know, kind of like the baseline for a lot of these hermetic societies and stuff like that. This is what you see.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
We accidentally figured that out. We had a guy, Citizen Dion. Oh yeah, you remember this? He. He claims to be one of the people that were doing crop circles in the UK. He says 80 of them are done by people. And we were kind of like investigating further, like, well, why are you drawing these signs? Like where you. And. And he says he's getting them as downloads. And I ended up showing him like a, a chart of the lesser keys of Solomon, of the sigils on there. And I go, does. He didn't know what it was because I cut off the, like the words. Yeah, yeah. He's just showing him sigils. And I was like, do you recognize any of these? I was like, yeah, made that one. That one. I was like, you ever put one of those on the floor? He said, yeah, I put that one on the floor. And I'm like, why? He's like, I just came like a download. They draw it out. And I was like, okay, interesting. Anyway, and be like, I don't want to alarm you, but it's looking like, looking like sigils for demons, dog.
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David Lee Corbo
This is, this is a huge problem. Maybe, maybe that's not the best way to phrase it, but it's like you're dealing with. People have just become comfortable with hearing out victims of satanic ritual abuse, let's say. And you know, they're accepting it, okay, something's happening. You don't have so many people coming forward telling the same story. And then especially with like this kind of believe victims culture, I think we've really opened up the doors, you know, for better or for worse for hearing these people's stories. But it's like to then layer on to the public, this is Solomonistic sigil magic. You know what I mean? It's like. But it's like over and over again, that's where it ends up going. And it's an uphill battle. I, I don't know what this looks like going forward. You know, these people need to have their story shared. People need to be aware of this. But it is so much more bizarre. I mean, once you're immersed in it, once you understand it, you're like, no, this isn't bizarre. I can see the functionality. I understand how this thing works. But when you remove the entire thing from the public awareness, it's like, damn, dude. Okay, yeah, sure, these people are getting abused, you know, and there's a. There's a ritualistic element to it, all these things. And people are going, well, I don't believe that the rituals are. Are really happening, but I do believe that these people are being abused. In other words, the validity of the rituals. I don't know where to place that, but these people are clearly being abused. And it's like, okay, now sit down, buckle up, because the rituals are very real. And this is going back to, yeah, Babylonian magic, and that is Enochian. I mean, it's like, it's. That's a real hard pill for people to swallow. I don't know what that conversation looks like going forward, but look, we're at the 38 minute mark. I'd love to get your thoughts on that afterwards, but we got to kick off these poor people. Guys, if you want to watch this episode, patreon.com forward slash, Nephilim Desquads where you want to be. Otherwise, give it a week or so and the episode will release in its entirety. But it's gonna have to be a little censored for YouTube because they're gonna kick us out. So goodbye, guys, we'll see you later. So, yeah, I mean, maybe you could speak to that. And. And then after that, I want to get into this. The patterns that emerge, the stories that people are telling in this data that you're collecting from these experiences, how much.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
How much you're actually allowed to say.
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David Lee Corbo
Because how much you're allowed to say. Yeah, but it's like the reason I want to get into that is because I see interviews and I see people talking about it, and then I see people's ears perk up. Wait, what? That thing happened to me. I was part of this program. I wore these headphones, I drank the drink. You know what I'm saying?
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Like, oh, yeah, the buzzer. Like the dot. My doctor did the buzzer.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, I remember the things, the big goofy headphones. You know, they looked at me, they were like, you're retarded. We don't need you. So they just gave me the headphones. I never drank the drink, but I want to get into sort of these elements. But first, let's talk about, you know, that. That whole thing, explaining to somebody who's come to the table to have this conversation. I'll hear you out. And it ends in this is Solomonistic sigil magic.
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Gray Area Monarch
Yeah. So, I mean, honestly, like, you know, when I'm briefing people Going into it that's, you know, I go into that less. Why? Because it's, you know, people have, people have hang ups. You know, I start off by like briefing people with like the 20 minute testimony at the 1995 achre, the presidential Hearing Committee, you know, to where the therapist and then two subjects brought forth testimony and you know, they submitted blindly Corroborating testimony from 40 therapists and hundreds of clients. Right. And then kind of go forward to like, you know, Collins, Ross, the CIA, Drs. Bluebird, you know, that's, you know, built on, you know, tens of thousands of freedom information documents and things that we know, you know, without, without a doubt. And then just going into, hey, you know, a lot of this is covered up. And there are elements of the therapeutic community, dissociative trauma therapists and specialists that deal with organized extreme abuse. And what this is, this is a form of brainwashing. And there's counterintelligence methods applied to specifically off put people so people will not want to hear, so people will have hang ups. It, it goes into taboo and cliches. But you know, essentially what this is is using dark neuroscience and applying it in as unethically as possible behavioral dark neuroscience. And people are being brainwashed. Like, you know, here's where you can get the information. There are campaigns specifically to smear this information from coming out, but you can't argue with blindly cooperating data. And there is a history of this coming out in very credible circumstances from credible parties. Again, also depending on who I'm showing this to, there are groups of people with packages that we have built up. Packages meaning, say we have 2, 3, 10 people that have some cooperating information. You know, people. And we're talking about people that are, you know, current senior project managers at Raytheon. We have, you know, people in NASA, we have people that are celebrities in the music industry. We have actors, things like this to where they have agreed that on extremely controlled circumstances with people that were vetted, we will show on a case by case basis the testimony and the supporting evidence and other verifiable information of packages to specific people to show them. Like, hey, these people are saying this. Why would all these people say the same thing who didn't know each other? And we're putting this, this together to paint the picture like, obviously this is a large program that's ongoing. You know, how does it look when we go into the ritualistic element? I mean, again, I, I do that lesser. Some people believe in that and kind of go into it. You know, if they already believe into it, it's believe it, it's already a little bit easier. But otherwise I just focus on the dark neuroscience aspect because I mean people are affected by specific trauma. It just corresponds to different parts of the brain symbology, all this, you know things are rooted in just like octagons in red. You know, even if they don't have the word stop like you might automatically respond to that because it's been drilled in from young. I mean it's just taking advantage of certain things. It's a lot of neuro linguistic protocol. It's just a lot of the way the symbology and pre linguistic things that are embedded in you from birth just due to the environment affect you. Like it's, it's just really simple actually if you break it down how it affects you like you know to address this you don't have to believe or don't have to have a deep understanding all this. You know for people to heal. Yes, all elements do need to be addressed because not only are, do they use very scientific methods and stuff like this. Yes there is heavy, you know, involvement of mysticism and it goes into the beliefs because they use every single, they use the, absolutely anything that can be used. They, they touch on that. Right. So yes for survivors healing that needs to be addressed but for people to recognize the validity of this and then address this actionably, they don't have to agree or understand every single aspect aspect and I don't ask them to so I don't always go into that if it comes up. Yeah, we discuss it but you know it's one of those things that you can get lost on and again you know I, I don't push for anything other than action on verifiable data so you know that, that's really what it is. But I have a very down to earth briefing process where I walk people through kind of like the checkpoints from Paper Clip show link the involvement from Paperclip to Iran Contra to now, the UAP involvement, you know from the 1995 achre to some of these books written based on Freedom of Information act documents to now the current testimony and the packages that we have ready to show people behind the scenes.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
I got a. A couple of questions, but I'm not. I'm not even sure where I want to because the next couple of questions could lead this wildly in one direction or another, but.
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David Lee Corbo
All right.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
We spoke with the guy, Randy Goodman. He's an SRA Deliverance minister. And something he said kind of like always, I, I ask it or I mention it all the time. He says when he's doing the deliverance with the people who have been subjected to satanic ritual abuse, if they are delivered, it's all good, and sometimes they can go on to lead a somewhat normal life, meaning, like they could they have broken whatever programming and they're able to now function in a different way. And I go, well, this seems dangerous for you. And he says, it's fine so long as these entities, quote, not, not even necessarily like spiritual entities, but like, even government entities, like dark actors, something. He's like, they get their package back or their, like their information packet, almost.
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David Lee Corbo
Like their program that they put in. The way he likened it was like, is if you're putting like, like a.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Chip in someone's head and they're like.
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David Lee Corbo
Get back my chip.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Yeah. I'm like, do you mean like a folder? Like, what do they have information? He was like, no, it's not. They just get their information back. If they can get their whatever back for the, to put in the next person or for confidentiality, they don't bother with him. Because I was saying, you know, if you're like tampering with their system, deprogramming people, or at least trying to tampering with government property. Yeah, yeah. What the hell does that mean, in your opinion, where these people are getting back their intellectual property from a subject? And how does that even work?
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Gray Area Monarch
Yeah, I mean, I mean, in my experience, I don't completely agree with that statement. I mean, here's what it is, because, you know, I, I deal with tons of Deliverance ministers, you know, therapists across the board. Again, they're using everything. And, and here's the deal. Is, okay, who is he dealing with? Is he dealing with people? Because you have a huge amount of people that have went through this base level, but a lot of this, again, when it got industrialized Post World War II paperclip through the NDEA, you know, here in the US through the National Defense Education act, and then just stemming to where all the Proxies and there's kind of like, you know, self regulating, self replicating mechanisms that are, you know, making these subjects, you know, they all get this base programming, go through this base trauma that the government doesn't want to do itself, right. And keeps their hands clean. And then they can pull from that pool of abused children, right. Like, you know, they have even like the government through clandestine services is teaching pedophiles no mark torture methods like spin programming to where they can create this traumatic base that then they can grab certain subjects from it later and pull them into the program. So like, okay, who is this guy going through this deliverance ministry with? You know, he's helping these people perhaps face this trauma and release this. And yes, whether you see the entities as real or not, the, the, the point is, is that there is such power and control that is demonstrated to these people when they're young. They might not be able to face it on their own. So going through and using a higher power to release this especially is allowing that psychological mechanism for them to release it themselves. And you know, whether it's real, okay? So the real that is happening through the higher power and through, you know, whether it be through the power of Jesus or whether it be through other deliverance methods, you know, so it can be real, it can be not. But the point is, so like these people that he's, you know, doing deliverance ministry to, are these active assets that are really like enrolled like as an operational asset that's being utilized common, or is it just kind of like a reserve sleeper force that not necessarily has ever been activated or upkeep and isn't like currently really enrolled in operational programs? So, so that, that's the aspect because like, it's all going to depend on who you mess with, how useful was this person and how deeply are they involved? Because if you touch through certain people, like, yeah, there's gonna be lash back, okay, like, and one that's already like individually installed in specific people to where they may sabotage or do it themselves or something like that, then you have the localized network, right. Of people that are directly handling them and also ultimately responsible. And punishment would befall them as well if their asset gets out and leaks information and then you have, you know, through the top as well. So like, if you go barking up the wrong tree and you mess with the wrong people, you better believe there's going to be some lash back. You know, the other thing is through this like deliverance ministry and stuff, you got to understand, especially when people get into like the government level program till they're in active operations. There is a method to where like these people go through this. And there's a surface level integration that allows people to think they're healed and free and they have a slight change, but the underlying mechanisms aren't actually undone. They don't have the 1800 numbers that change on a basis according to the day that they can call in and report. They don't have the access of where they can be activated in those codes and that layered mechanism. Like, you know, so it's like how free are these people actually? Right. So like as far as he's talking about, these people get their packets back and stuff like that. What are you talking about? Talking about? No, that's, I have no idea. The way I see it, that's not an actual thing like that. You know, like if these people are free and all that, like there's not like a set amount of spirits that they can send out that inhabit these people and then they're going to come back to base and be used on another person. It's not like you're pulling these chips out of the people's head and like, okay, we got to reuse this chip because we have a finite number of chips. That's not a thing.
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David Lee Corbo
That's interesting. Have you ever seen the film Weapons? It's a new one. It's got, you know, sort of this, this idea of like witchcraft done to children in a public school system that causes them to become like weapons when activated and they're just not hiding it anymore.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
It's. It's kind of hilarious.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. And there's all these things. I don't know if operation paperclip was 48 or 45, but I've kind of drew this connection to, to, you know, it almost seems like they're hinting at Operation Paperclip in the back of the film because I can't watch anything anymore without looking at all like the crap that they're trying to say in the background. And it's like they keep showing you images of 1948. It's like written on a chalkboard. It shows up on a pamphlet. It's over and over again. And then you're also getting these concepts of parasites that also keep coming up in the background. Parasites, parasitic, you know, relationships. They're talking about Cordyceps mushrooms creating a, a parasitic relationship with their host, all this other stuff. And then you're seeing in the background also information about whales and their communication through frequency. And so these three elements, right? Operation paperclip frequency, frequency, conductivity. And also parasites comes up a lot over and over again. And we're talking about like recognizing patterns. You've got all this data coming in. I'm sure these patterns are emerging. I wonder, are you finding. Because in our research we're finding the prevalence of a frequency conducting technology. And that doesn't necessarily have to be like a chip, but it could be just this strange piece of metal, obviously people that are abducted by like aliens, which I think the alien abductee phenomenon plugs into this pretty tightly.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
I mean, we started off looking up Indrija Buharish and his patent on the, the dental tooth implant that they were using for some sort of voice to skull technology. And from there we were like, what the, you know, and it just, you go down the rabbit hole again and it seems as if they've gotten a lot better at this stuff.
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David Lee Corbo
Stuff. Yeah, it's gotten to the point where I, I'm, I'm actively suspecting that one of the points of like the vaccine program is to get these, these known heavy metals to cross the blood brain barrier so that they can settle there. And it's like the most effective version of metal based frequency conducting technology. But it's straight to your brain instead of to your tooth or something.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Everybody.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, and it's in everybody. And so then, you know, you get into the telepathy tapes and these non verbal autistic kids and now they're communicating telepathically. I don't, I don't want to go there. But where I do want to go is in your data, in your research. How often does the idea of like an implant come up at all?
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Gray Area Monarch
Oh, so the implants are, you know, almost especially if they're used at a certain level, implant standard, whether it be a real implant or whether it be, you know, fake pseudo surgery that made them think they have an implant. So they think that they are constantly being monitored by an all powerful entity. And this goes hand in hand with what's called report programming. Because like the number one thing there's base programming. People if they're going to get used in this, they have to have successful base programming. And base programming is essentially like there's like a, a stop halt command. So like they don't hurt their programmer or anything like that. Especially for males, right? And then you have, and then you have essentially a gamma disinformation which is like unauthorized disclosure. If you go outside of this compartmented, you know, neural network or whatever you want to call. There's, there's different terminology again, you know, that they will essentially, you know, ab react and like you know, start injecting nonsensical information or even sensical information that's irrelevant, right? To confuse their disclosure. Gamma disinformation then omega, which is you know, kind of like suicide programming and stuff like that. So you have your fail safes that are installed, you have your stop halt, you have your disinformation and then self harm fail safes, it's super priority subjects. It goes from self harm to homicide and stuff like that. And then also apart from that is you have your report mechanisms and the self reporting mechanisms is to where the people will essentially monitor themselves and report on any information. You know, with there's unauthorized disclosures, especially externally. But even internally if there's breaches in this neural network, right in this self contained situation, if people start remembering too much in the middle of the night especially they'll report on themselves. And this can happen through phones and stuff like that and get wiped and all that. So people go through this base program coming. So you know, part of this is, is often an implant. Here's the thing is nowadays especially if they went in the government end implants are pretty standard and they have them so microscopic. And there's different types of implants. You have implants that got much smaller over time to now there's like, unfortunately like it literally is self assembling nanites and stuff like this. But just to let you know too this is identified, identifiable. If they have real implants this can be done is they go either in a Faraday cage or an anechoic chamber which, which is expensive and hard to get into. But essentially you can use a spectrum analyzer which sees all the frequency bands and stuff like this. Now these implants by default are dormant so they won't just be broadcasting a signal. But if you know we have certain bands of frequencies and these bands I want you to know some are registered in NATO, some are Naval Research Lab, there's a few others that I'm not going to get into that, aren't public. But what can happen is you can burst a certain frequency at them and specifically at the point in their body where there is an implant or just generally. And then what happens is that implant will become powered and will burst back. And what they do is they burst kind of like in a morse code. But it's a different encrypted mechanism, right? So like it is a verifiable situation. If you get these people isolate where you can isolate the frequencies, have a spectrum analyzer and then burst the frequency at them, it can make this implant come out of its dormant state and burst back. So this, there is monitoring, there is implants, it is a thing. But also there's definitely a lot of fake implants and there's a lot of, of processes to where people go through this. So they think they're being monitored and they think they're powerless. And then this also reinforces the part to where hey, they better tell on themselves so they face less of a punishment than if the people see it and they didn't report on themselves. Right. Because like, you know, there's part of them that's made responsible. But it's not just technological implants. Also what's really heavily utilized is that there are deliberate parasites use and even cultured parasites. And there's also fungal networks. And you can even look in Department of Energy has a patent specifically for fungal networks. And if you think about this, it's very interesting because you go into like, and you go into autistic kids and stuff like this that you know, have these things and like, okay, so the human brain is capable of a lot of things, right? And we only use a certain percent and stuff like this. So maybe there is dormant parts from way back before we had developed in certain ways or whatever, before we were modified, whatever you want to believe there's different parts of the brain that have different abilities. You have a fungal network, it goes in. What does it do? It maps out everything. You have parasites, just like parasites will control animals and guide them to places to do and stuff like that. What do they do? They map out parts of the brain and then they can stimulate parts of the brain, take control of the host. So what a lot of these actual age old occult techniques do, but also what the government's learning to do from some of this is they use this fungal infection, they use this parasitic infestation to essentially to essentially map out and then essentially nest in certain parts of the brain which then become controllable. Or utilizable. Right. And then they can kind of like that creates a mechanism to where they can control it and access it. And then also some of these parasites and some of these fungal networks also respond to frequency and aid transmission in different ways.
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David Lee Corbo
So yeah, okay, this is, is, this is perfect. This is plugging exactly into where I was about to go. And this is just, just to, for the audience sake. Doe funded research at Oak Ridge in 2019. It's just a, a Google search, not to pull it up, but led by ornl, which I guess is a, a scientific research. And yeah, they're, they're doing it specifically on the symbiotic relationship between plants and, and soil fungi. But the way that they, they communicate, that neural network that kind of became really popular actually was a huge talking point on, on Rogan, which you're talking about big podcasters that, you know, end up in a weird space. Rogan, we kind of call him like the modern day Laurel Canyon. You know what I mean?
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Where was it? Edgewood, you said?
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Gray Area Monarch
Oh, Oak Ridge.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Oak Ridge.
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David Lee Corbo
Oak Ridge, yeah. Yeah, yep, yep.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Is Oak Ridge the place where they.
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David Lee Corbo
Have the hydron collider, the hydrant?
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Yeah.
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Gray Area Monarch
Okay.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah. So now, okay, we're talking parasites. We're talking fungal networks of communication. Parasites that hijack the mind and can control the host. Tell it to go do this, Tell it to go do that. And even the frequency conducting technology. Just to go back to the whole alien abductee thing, we listened to somebody recently. This comes up very often. They claim to have been a lifelong abductee victim. They don't see it as being a victim. They see it as like being super cool, whatever. But they were given an implant at a young age. That implant allows for two way communication. Both, you know, auditory, but also it shares the visual cortex between them and another entity. Tall Nords, you mentioned them before. That's apparently what's going on here. But this isn't an isolated situation. So people will often talk about these, these implants creating that, that form of communication. So we've got parasites that are telling you what to do. Right. We have frequency conducting technology that is putting you in a two way communication with entities. We're also talking about a fungal network that communicates. There's a lot of communication. There's a lot of. This is bringing me right to what I wanted to ask you. On this show. We're very comfortable with the idea that schizophrenia is not at all what we're being led to believe by the medical industry. But schizophrenia is Actually an external thing communicating or maybe it could be, but it's outside of your own psyche. In other words, it's not you that is experiencing a chemical brain imbalance of some sort, that this is actually something communicating with these individuals. I got to imagine schizophrenia comes up a lot in these testimonies that you're receiving.
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Gray Area Monarch
Yeah, I mean, you know, there's a large part of people when they saw, you know, official help that they were, you know, diagnosed with schizophrenia and you know, medicated and stuff like that. So yeah, I mean schizophrenia comes up constantly. I mean, you know, a lot of people start, you know, self diagnosing when they start finding out something's wrong and all that. And they say, oh, I might be schizophrenic when they look it up and stuff like this. But yeah, there's, I mean definitely is a relationship with schizophrenia. And what's funny too, because schizophrenia is what split mind, you know, if look into exactly what it is. So you know, whether you go to dissociation or whatever and you know, it's. It's funny because even the memory and stuff like this, there's a lot of thoughts that like the, the brain is kind of like a switchboard and a lot of this is non localized and it's actually yes there and information is coming in and out and there's even been events with like people like brain damage and stuff like this, which you're missing parts of their brain and then shouldn't have access to certain memories and things like this. There's even.
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David Lee Corbo
Or they have like they'll learn a new language or something. Yeah, or they learn a skill. There's suddenly a, a savant and at the piano or they're a mathematician.
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Gray Area Monarch
Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Really good podcaster.
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Gray Area Monarch
Some weird relationships. And I do want to mention though, so like you know, you have your fungal aspect, you have your parasitic aspect, you have the technology aspect. All this is being researched. Why? Because just like with MK Ultra with 149 sub projects that we know of, they research every single modality and every single thing. These all these things are, are being researched. What's the most effective? Okay, what are the pros and cons? Is this interruptible like this? Can people flush the parasites out? Can people zap the technology with this and get rid of it? Is this technology detectable? Is this have its pros and cons? Are there certain genetic factors that anchor in more with other people there's a predispic, predispositions to things being more effective. And then some companies just want their own proprietary thing because, you know, some of this information is split up and there's different factions that you know, have advanced in different areas. Right. So you know, a lot of these things are just overlapping things. Right. Because if you, you know, have a dog and you really want to get them and you put a GPS tracker on them.
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David Lee Corbo
Right.
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Gray Area Monarch
Like that's one aspect. But like, okay, what if happens and they slip the collar off and they don't have the GBS tracker, Is there another thing we can do to make him identifiable? Then he has a chip in them too so they can get scanned. Like what all, you know, so as many layered things you can have, you want to stack them. But also there's just different facets of research and they all have their benefits of their pros and they all their cons.
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David Lee Corbo
So this is something that's ruled out that MK Free Range, MK Ultra chickens, right?
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
If you have this many modalities, this is something that you could really implement at scale.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
But what is it? Yeah, what is the purpose of.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
From Operation Paperclip. To go from these, I guess these like isolated incidents of just Manchurian candidates. Not necessarily isolated, but in a much smaller of a scope to proliferating it across I guess the entire world. But definitely America. I know America seems like ground zero for this, this program. Why everybody, why spread this out so thin? Why. Why make everybody susceptible to some form of this? I mean like you, you watch children's television and just the switching of the scenes every three seconds is a form of mind control. The flicker rate of your light bulb or even your tv, it's. It's making you suggestible to whatever. And then that's. We're not even mentioning the things that are inside of your body that are convinced. You know, we're convincing you. Whether you're eating it, breathing it or injecting it. Why spread it to this, this large of a level?
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Gray Area Monarch
Well, and just to touch on this. And there's patents to support some of these flicker rates and different things that you Know to where the TV even right. Will kind of put you in a trance and stuff like this. This, there's, there's different aspects of this. Well, I mean here's the thing is the people doing this, what do they want? They want power and control. One, this is the top down approach. The people that get the Manchurian candidate level programming tend to be the people in positions of power and governance and the people with influence. So you get your top 1% like the Military Aged, the number one show for military aged male demographic, right. They'll want that person as a mentoring candidate, you know, whether it be the president or governors and senators, they want those people as maturing candidates. There's decisions, affects others, you know, and so people in positions of power and influence, they'll have the most programming so they can have control over the others. And it's not feasible to do that to everybody. Now obviously they're implementing this in a more widespread area and down to controlling social media, algorithms, stuff like this. Also hand in hand he goes with the flicker rate and different things in the different scenes in, in the shows. It's also lowering attention Spanish, which you know, it controls the way they get information. But so here's the thing is they want to control the populace. They want the populace to be okay and they don't want to have to fight them hand and foot. They want worker ants, they want two classes, a master class and a slave class. They want people to rule over because you got to have that contrast, otherwise you're nothing special, right? If everybody's on the same foot so you got to have that contrast. But like they want control, they want, you know, unquestioned, all encompassing control of people. So if you don't get them when you're young and you don't have exercise that control over the populace, they're not going to be subservient, they're not going to be efficient, they're not going to do what you want because these people also want to progress. So say, hey, we're going to roll out this technology. But this technology is a double edged sword that can even be used against us, just like the Internet, right? So what do they do? They put different steps in place to say hey, we can do this. But still we need to have the populace under our thumb. Hey, we want to do this, we need to build this new technology, we need worker ants to do this, we need worker bees to do this. So we'll get the populace to do this, but we need to control them and make sure they stay in their box. We want them to own nothing and be happy. Want them with the low attention span, they want, we want them to do their assigned roles. So it's just all about exercising that control and power. Because they still want, they want to rule, they want power, they want control, but they also want progress and to build and they have to control the community also. The community that's not controlled becomes a risk because again, when they have access to all these different, different things, you know, they could make waves and, and you know, unite again. So like they have to have. I mean, why wouldn't you want to affect the populace with this? If you're the type of person that wants to exercise power and control and wants everybody to do what, you know, what you say and work for you and work towards the goals that you want, you need to control them. Otherwise, one, you know, you can't do what you want. And two is they might turn against you. Right. Especially when they find this out in this age of interconnectivity.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, trauma has a great way of making something. I mean, you don't have to think about it on like such a psycholog advanced way that these programs are looking at it. It's like if you traumatize an animal, it becomes very submissive and it'll do what you say. And then, you know, obviously there's all kinds of layers of benefits on top of that. You can keep going further. But yeah, as far as suggestibility, willingness to give in to fear, which is something that we're constantly inundated with. You know, best example, you go back to after 9, 11, and it was like terrorism. I swear they had an issue that went out and said, you need to say the phrase terrorism at least once every two minutes. And it was like this constant threat read off to them. Today's threat level. Orange. It's an orange. Remember that back in the day they would do those orange threat levels or whatever they would tell you the likelihood of getting it just seems bombed.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Yeah, I, I understand, I understand what you're saying. Like, yeah, you would want that.
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David Lee Corbo
But you keep them in fear and then you go, one day you go, hey, here's a solution.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
But it's the point of diminishing returns. Like we're reaching that point of diminishing returns where you're continually trauma, fear, basing an entire generation of people until they don't. It's, it doesn't seem to be, I mean, I guess maybe some new iterations of the mind control work, but every time I look around me I'm like, more people seem to be aware of the techniques than ever. And it's like, you guys seem like you're losing control. When you were good before, before you wanted to take the whole. The whole chessboard.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, that's like when we were talking to Danny yesterday, and she's like, is that the case or are we just in, like, a really unique echo chamber on Twitter? Is this a representation of the. Always been.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
It's people.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, we're in Florida, so I look. But I told you, you know, I went back to New Jersey, and they're like, you know, they don't know anything at all. And I'm like, okay, you know, we haven't made as much progress as I thought. Maybe a little bit it. But I think that that's. That's got to be it. I mean, even. Even just on the utilitarian thing, it's like, if you want to invade a foreign country, you first have to traumatize us, constantly inundating us with all kinds of horrifying crap. I mean, you know, the Charlie Kirk thing is like, you know, if you want to spur some sort of a movement, if you want to subvert and create a revolution here in America. And I'm not saying, you know, you could say whatever you want about Charlie Kirk's death. Death. That image of him lurched over and. And all that blood pouring out of his neck is like. I mean, the first couple of days afterwards, that's. They no longer have to strap us in the chair Clockwork Orange style and peel our eyelids open. We're just willingly doing it with this little black box in our face, just watching this dude bleed out over and over again. It's like, you know, but I want to get into the Gates program. We don't have a tremendous amount of time left. And this is something that's really fascinating. It's. It's become kind of viral, at least in our corner of conspiracy realm. Right. Certain corners of X or what have you. And it's hard to say definitively what it is. You get a lot of really fun stuff. One of the examples I like to use is there's like a YouTuber. He was kind of really early on the YouTube wave, so he's famous. I don't know his name, but he's got a big show, had a lady come on, she comes on, starts talking about MK Ultra, and he experienced. I'm sorry, he started talking about the Gates program, and he experienced what a lot of people on the Internet have been experiencing. And that is Hearing the details of what the GATES program is like and realizing that he had been subjected to it on some level or another. And I think a lot of us understand a lot of the elements, some of us have experienced more than others. But by the end of it, he was left basically shocked that he's like, oh my God, I've been through this thing. From where I'm sitting, it kind of looks like maybe a selection process. What, what is the GATES program? Where is it happening and what, what's the point?
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Gray Area Monarch
Yeah, so I mean, when you get into gate, we're talking about gifted and talented. You know, there's going to be a bunch of names for this. Early on it was mgm, you got tag, you got gate, you got High cap, you have Core, you have Encore. You have so many different names, regional equivalents. We're talking about gifted and talented education, we're talking about enrichment, we're talking about pull out programs. And really this goes hand in hand with other programs too, into vocational stuff like this. But this was made under the National Defense Education act, okay? And you know, following Sputnik in this whole Cold War era, we created the National Defense Education Act. In, in response, we had to make sure that all of our people are prepared, you know, for national defense, hence National Defense Education act, okay? So, you know, what this really made was funding for one was Project Talent, which. Project Talent basically identifies candidates that would go into GATE and other things, right? And it's also a lifelong monitoring thing. Project Talent also hand in hand, that was made by John C. Flanagan. The funny thing is John C. Flanagan was selecting the combat fighter pilots before this, right? So in World War II and, and other things in the military, he selected combat fighter pilots, which is one of the most like, stranded, strenuous jobs and also in charge of some of the most expensive equipment that you could up. And you know, they don't want that, right? So, so Project Talent, John C. Flanagan, is, is finding these people, right? And then as with Project Talent's plan program, which was computerized curriculum, okay? Now it's not always the whole curriculum adjusted. It might just be that people are took out for a GATE class or a pull out enrichment class or regional equivalent, whatever, but some people actually skip grades. Some people went into a whole separate thing, right? Even different magnet schools or, or different things like this, right? So anyways, the Project Talent goes hand in hand with gate. That's the selection and all that. Then in gate, yes, this, a lot of people, you know, with the headphones, you know, with the Zener Cards with the pink drink with all this. Like this was another step in the selection process in finding people that were suitable to then funnel to further program. You know, and it wasn't just psi testing because I know a lot of people in a lot of way this is presented is that hey, this was testing for psi and all that. Yes, that that's a major aspect of it. And just to touch on the psi aspect, one one of the godfathers grandfathers of Gate is John C. Gowen. And what he does, if you look it up this. He wrote a few books and he like taxonomy of consciousness. Essentially what he took was age old mysticism and occult initiations and different aspects of. Of these disassociative trance states and their qualities as they related to phenomena. And what he did was he basically switched up the nomenclature to very scientific articulation and, and wrote it so it could be into a curriculum. At the same time it gets into Dabrowski. You have Dabrowski and what he, Dabrowski is known for is they called it positive disintegration. And what positive disintegration is, is using trauma to disassociate. So essentially like it's showed with a pyramid to where a pyramid's made. But at first there's five levels. At first what it is is bricks all over the place to where completely shattered it just like you shattered the mind of someone young. And it's disintegrated. They have a disintegrated psyche. And then you build it back in structured form to your own whim to serve a purpose. Right. So you know it goes. So the gifted and talented education actually goes in hand in hand with Dabrowski's positive disintegration and 5 phase of consciousness to where they are taking them through a specific protocol and development, specific curriculum to build them a certain way. And again you know, with the Gowan's curriculum of all these different occult initiations and mysticism and all this wrote in a scientific nomenclature. It's integrating this into the curriculum and kind of building people up. It's occult path working is literally what this is. It's so it's just taking people through this. Just like you know, you have Babylonian blasphemy of Egyptian mystery, you have these school mystery schools. Right, right. It's kind of like teaching the same thing just in modern day time. So you have that aspect but see along with this is you have a lot of people to where like in gifted and talented it's not just about stem. It's not just about mathematics and sciences and technology. Right. Engineering. You also have people that are really valued for the arts. Right. In this right brain material. And this right brain isn't just also conducive to psi and phenomena. The right brain is very conducive to to brainwashing.
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Gray Area Monarch
A lot of these people, that's what's not talked about publicly is through this GATE process. It's not just that they were going through psi testing and that sort of thing. Some of these people were being funneled off and turned into full blown Manchurian candidates. This goes hand in hand with programs such as in contemporary times you had DARPA had this program called called Engage E N G A G E. So and what that was was the K through 12 they were especially integrating technology into the classroom. You had advanced learning solutions, game based learning things to really get children involved and to be able to really learn in a way that they are really invested in it. Right. You're really passionate about it. So video games is one of them. So you have companies like Cubic. Cubic has a lot of game based learning solutions. They're used a lot of these space camps, things like this. Again touching back to Andrea Proharic, you know that started the space kids and all this. So anyways Cubic, right was involved with GATE and involved with a lot of this technology and game based learning at the same time. Cubic after 911 also acquired Abraxas. Abraxas is. Is all I know, right?
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David Lee Corbo
Is yeah, it's just like the, the.
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Gray Area Monarch
Person that owns a Braxton, this was is his name was literally Richard Helms. I mean you know, go back to MK Ultra, right? His name was Richard Helms as well. So anyways this guy is old spy master. You have all these OGs from the clandestine services and all that in Abraxas and Abraxas what they were were responsible for among other things was they would form the covers for Knox for non official covers. They would craft those. They get this top secret programs through. They are crafting the knock covers. So what they did was the same company that's involved with the selection through GATE and then the training of them in game based solutions involving these military platforms. Just like some of these first person shooters and stuff. Again that actually goes back to darpa. Some of these DARPA developed platforms which people don't know about this like this all goes back to. So essentially the same company Cubic that was made with through DARPA's engaged to use their technology training kids in gay in and stem and the kids that were selected and funneled off to this, they also at the same time were funneling and routing these people and grooming them to be unwitting non official cover. So they would kind of like set them on a pipeline and path, give them opportunities. Specifically intelligent poor people that don't have otherwise opportunities and are more apt to take this opportunity. Right. Especially if they have parents that could get out of the way or parents that would comply or parents that they could control some way. So the same company that was involved with training these, these kids and using their technology also was crafting their cover unbeknownst to the kids. So it's just all a program, not just to test people for psi, but to brainwash people and to place them. It's all about placement. And again we need that for national defense on a certain level. But it just goes so far beyond that because they're using torturous methods to groom people. And then also if you get to the top of this, it's corrupt people that are misusing assets and just it's the whole corrupt agenda of globalist. It's not for the us it's not for humanity, it's for some corrupt, you know, bloodthirsty power hungry, you know, warmongers.
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David Lee Corbo
So anyways, well, speaking of really cool stuff, I was doing a little bit of research here because I'm wondering like, you know, you hear certain elements in regards to what they're looking for, what the perfect candidate is for, for this sort of a thing. And genetics comes up obviously quite a bit. But one of them that is lesser known that popped up on my radar not long ago was this idea of heterochromia. And as I'm doing research here I just want to shout out Emma because if you just do a little bit like I'm trying to look for it and it's hard for me to find anything and I go, well what about grok? Like what is grok? The all knowing, you know, intellect, entity, Grock. What does GROK have to say about it? And all the sources that are getting pulled are from Emma's substack which is. I just think that's really cool because it just goes to show the impact of the work that you guys are doing is. It's, it, it is making a difference. And so you know, you start to look into this and it talks about Mengele which I, I know that there was, you know, this idea that Joseph Mengele who's, who's known as what. What was his, his name. He was like angel of Death. Yeah. Is obsessed with a number of things. Twins comes up quite a bit. But also heterochromia comes up a little bit. And I'm, I'm wondering is that something in your research that has come up this heterochromia aspect and if so what seems to be the implication? Why?
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Gray Area Monarch
Yeah, so central heterochromia specifically. There's other aspects too. But central heterochromia super common with subjects in this that have been through this, this and that specifically seems to relate to the theta programming. Theta programming and the psi aspect. As far as exactly why and what the connection is, I, you know that's not my field and I don't have the full information on that. All I can say is that there is absolutely a strong correlation with psi phenomena with theta programming and central heterochromia specifically. I can say that definitively is. Yeah. As far as getting into. Into why and stuff like that, I would be wildly speculating.
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David Lee Corbo
That's. It's strange. I know there's not much to do there but the idea that some sort of a psy related, you know, anything would manifest as a partial eye color. It's just strange. Like he's just talking about anatomy and biology.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
It's the chemical, it's going to be the chemical makeup.
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Gray Area Monarch
Is there another correlation where there's an eye color but that does that go hand in hand with another genetic trait that it's related to that we don't know? I mean there, there could be something else there as well. Not just the eye color. That could just be a tell. I really don't know. Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
I would imagine also that Mangala's interest in the whole twins thing would have been the psychic connection. Right. Because that's, that seems to be. It's very common that you'll have twins and they share some sort of not a hive mind. Right. But like you know there, there, there's a quantum entanglement.
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Gray Area Monarch
But also here's another aspect is if you have twins, you have a, have a control for if you're Doing experiments on one, you have a control and then you have.
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David Lee Corbo
Right.
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Gray Area Monarch
The experiment. So that would be really good, especially when you're looking at like, threshold testing and things like that. So. Because, you know, in any experiment, if you really want to know what you do, you can do anything to anybody. But how do you gauge that results to. Compared to how they were going to develop? If you didn't do anything, if you have a twin and you take one, but then you do experiment with the other, you have a control in an experiment and then you have, you know, the one you.
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David Lee Corbo
Man, that's very smart, but very dark. Super dark. So, so these elements that, that show themselves, and I have somewhere where I want to go with this ultimately, but these elements that show themselves in the Gates program, you know, these, these sort of tests, maybe we could talk about those a little bit and, and what it seems that the purpose of them may be certainly the, the frequency in the headphones, because I remember that, but I, but I, I don't know if I was subjected to the same thing or if that was just a run of the mill hearing test. I'm sure there are run of the mill hearing tests. I don't know why you would give them the children, but I remember sort of the monotone voice going like, you know, maybe it was like, click a button if you could hear this. Hit the button. If you could hear the tone, type of deal. And like, yeah, I was subjected to the tones and whatever. But as that applies to the Gates program, what would the significance would that be? And then like also this thing, this pink drink, because I know it's, it's probably something that you deal with a lot, Gray, but it's like for people who are just getting this on their radar, are those are relatable? Right. Because it seems to be in the public school system, we were subjected to this to some degree. And that relatability creates a lot of fascination around the phenomenon and a lot of questions. What, what, what was this pink drink that people were choking down? What might have been the purpose of that? This, this tone that they're subjected to? And what other kind of, you know, seemingly innocuous things were people subjected to that ended up being part of a pattern for the Gates program?
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Gray Area Monarch
Right. So, you know, also the thing that goes hand in hand with this, a lot of times when people were brought to like a, you know, very dim room and went through this, there would be someone from outside the school a lot of times that was coming in to administer these, administer these tests, you know, so what was the pink drink? Was there a temporary memory loss agent? Was there something else? Kind of like you have an MRI with contrast and you'll take something so it can show up and then they're, you know, also have a scanning device in the room, right? When it gets to the hearing element, is it like seeing, you know, what frequency range someone can hear in and then also knowing that no matter what, the brain can still interpret it even if they don't audibly consciously interpret it? You know, it's kind of, I think, testing thresholds and also testing susceptibility. You know, is there something else in there? Was there a sub audible suggestion that was put in there? And then if kids say certain things, you know, even the person, person administering the test wouldn't have to know all the details of it. They say, hey, if this comes up, then this person, you know, passes or this person rates this, right? So there could be, you know, sub audible suggestions. They could be testing the thresholds of, you know, the frequency, you know, of, you know, what they can hear the threshold if they're able to hear it or not. And just deeming if they're suitable. Right? Just deeming how suggestible they are deeming, you know, the, the bandwidth width of the frequency that they can hear in and things like this. Either way, I mean, 100, I don't know all the exact details of it. What I do know is that, you know, that was kind of the vetting screening process and that some people were then selected and funneled further into sub projects or other, other issues. You know, it also could be pretense to say, oh, hey, you have a hearing problem. Oh, you have this, oh, we need to put you to this vocational therapy. We need to do this and be a pretense for, you know, funneling you to another class or another aspect. You know, it kind of opens the door to a few things. Yeah, I don't have all the specific details on exactly what it was, but I do know that it was a step in the screening and vetting process. And then, you know, certain children were selected to get routed in other places from there deeper into the actual program.
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David Lee Corbo
One of the other things that comes up quite a bit, and I heard somebody talking about this, that what they thought the point of the GATES program was. And you know, it does seem that you're looking for a level of eligibility.
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Right, but the other thing is they connected it to this idea of the alien graze. And I know, we just talked about this. You know, what the phenomenon will present itself as what you're more likely to believe or what you've been sort of programmed. Doesn't have to be directly, it could just be culturally. Right. The age bracket that you broke it down into, I think is very telling. Older people kind of going towards this like Egyptian aspect, younger people going towards this. And there's a plethora of things. You have ascended masters and spirit guides.
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It's funny too. You could even locate the, the changeover in the zeitgeist from Puharich bringing in Geller to, you know, manifest the UFO Roswell movement. And then from there you have that generation on pretty much talking about aliens. Aliens. But before it is the, the Indian.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah, it's like, it's like old people get this. Right.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, this, this kid that's listening to this story as, as this woman is explaining, well, these are the elements. And he goes, oh my God, I've had that happen. And then she goes, this is, you know what I think it is. And he's like, wait a second. I've always had an obsession with aliens, with UFOs. And I've, I've experienced abductions, right. Sleep paralysis. And that is, you know, on this show we talk about, this asleep paralysis phenomenon is very strange. These days I'm much more looking to just the whole thing is calling it a phenomenon because the overlap between a sleep paralysis experience, an alien abduction experience, old hag, you name it. The only thing that changes, all the elements are the same. There's a paralysis aspect. There's a unbelievable level of fear. There seems to be an accompanying of maybe a vibration or a frequency or an electrocuting kind of a feeling that keeps you paralyzed. But the thing that changes is just like what's doing it to you, which is odd. You know, it just seems to be morphing.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
It Goes from like incubus demon to I've heard stories of like Fred Flintstone.
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David Lee Corbo
All kinds of crap, whatever you're. Yeah. Especially for children. It's like, what are you gonna believe it? Disney, Fred Flintstone, Disney characters.
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Gray Area Monarch
Disney characters, yeah. And what I meant too, also with the Egyptian. A lot of the Egyptian rights, also a lot of older people are very druidic and they have a lot of like earth based spirits and stuff like that. That's a huge thing. I was, I couldn't find the word in my head. Druidic.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Nature familiars. Nature spirits.
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Gray Area Monarch
Right, exactly, exactly. Yes.
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David Lee Corbo
And that makes a lot of sense too. If you think about like the hippie movement and everything. Right. You're really like getting in touch with the earth. It is that whole idea of like tree hugging hippie was a cultural phenomenon that would have certainly flavored people's opinions of the spiritual, if that's what you want to call it. It for an entire generation with the.
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Gray Area Monarch
Timeline, what you'll definitely see is what. Where it seems to trend in the data of what they're experiencing. There's a lot of external reinforcement, for sure. There's definitely a relation there.
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David Lee Corbo
So. So where do you fall on it? Great. Because it's like I understand like the idea of like tulpas and everything and you can give sort of attention to a thing and, and maybe the individual human's ability to manifest a thing. And I, and I know you're saying that it doesn't matter. I agree with that. It doesn't really matter because the point is it's still happening to you. But if you had to put your money on one side or the other, is this an external intelligent force or is this something that is purely concocted by the human psyche as a manifestation of our own, you know, desire for control. Who knows anything like that?
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Gray Area Monarch
Where if you had to pick or what's the nature? What's the nature of existence? You know, Grigory Gore, what everybody believes in. What. What is that? I mean, here's in my personal belief and my personal thing is, is that the people that run the world, right. And well, here's one thing, let me touch on this is when you get in deep hypnosis, there's positive hallucinations and negative hallucinations and again, everything's Ericsonian to where there's a script that goes with your psyche. That's the way it works. And this is people hypnotizing people and stuff like this. So already like you have that human element of it. Now what do I believe? I believe that, that going back to Babylonian blasphemy, to Egyptian mystery, to all this, the people that run the world and their family dynasties and the priest class, the ruling class and the priest class, I believe that they commune often using conduits because it's dangerous and can essentially drive someone crazy and it also can go bad, but also because you need to have certain purity or these things that you get in touch with will just, you know, eat you alive. But I believe that these things have been communing through communication protocols with entities with consciousness that's out there. That's usual a non physical presenting, but, but that there is consciousness out there. And I think this consciousness is so intelligent that it uses whatever works against us, okay, A lot of ways that we've learned to do to each other. Because what better way to control someone than a way that's agreeable to them. Piggyback on their, on their momentum where they're already going, piggyback on their desires, piggyback on their understanding instead of start from scratch, right? You work with what's already proven to work and then piggyback on that. So I believe that there is consciousnesses out there that are so intelligent that are completely controlling our ruling and priest class and using them as playthings and also using them as proxies to thus in turn control the people. So yes, I believe that there are some, some intelligences out there that manifest in whatever way suits them, them whatever way suits the cause. And they can be a wide grade. They are the great deceivers, okay. And that, you know, they're just doing whatever they can to get their way, you know, to play with the people. And the people are nothing to them. We are ants. That's what I believe. And I believe that, you know, largely these generational elements of dynasties of a ruling and priest class have continuously engaged with them and then passed down these parasitic infestations and then brought their children through initiations to infect themselves energetically with these viruses and then, you know, take these things into them and agree and continue the cycle. So I, yeah, I believe that there is specific bloodlines and people that are continuously infested with these parasites that are infected with this energetic virus and that even have over time developed in certain ways, such as the reptilian brain more than other people who, who have developed in other ways. Right. And that these people are used as proxies to control the people from the top down. So yeah, I believe that there is intelligence and entities out there that are using just a bag of tricks and deceiving the people and using whatever way, shape and form to present that makes sense and is most effective and efficient for that time period.
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David Lee Corbo
I wonder then where you put us in that equation, because you said they look at us like ants and things like that, but there's also this parasitic relationship where they need us. They need something from us. We talk often on this show to friend of the show, Dr. Jerry Marzinski, who's a clinical psychologist, and he dealt, dealt specifically with schizophrenia. He was in the field for like 35 years. And everybody drink, everybody drink. We mentioned him quite a bit. And, and one of the things that he said, a story that he shared was he started talking to patients in a prison setting where they allowed him to. Because in a medical industry, they're not really, you know, like a medical setting. They're like, don't give in to the delusions. You're going to feed into it and you're going to make this so. But in the prison system, they don't care. So he starts to speculate on whether or not these things are actually external to the individual, that they're not just auditory and visual hallucinations, and decides to start recommending to the patients, hey, talk to them like, deal with them like they're external to you. And then he would say things like, can I talk to the voices when talking to a patient? And for a long while, they, they were really, you know, they would reject that. And he would say things like, well, what do the voices think about me? And they would go, they're not happy with the idea that you're addressing them that way. Eventually, one day there's like a bit of a breakthrough and one of the patients tells him that the voices are telling Dr. Marzinski that he has no, no right to interfere with their way of life. Now that's interesting. We'll put that to the side for a second. There's another individual who I communicated with, who wrote into me, claimed to have a symbiotic or parasitic relationship with an entity. There was a sort of a Faustian bargain, I guess you could say, where this thing gave to him success with women and a couple of other things, information being one of them. And, and what it got in return was a sort of a loose deal. It would be able to feed off of his energy and also experience these him. And, and, and so he was allowed to ask it questions. And you know, this is just a story. Who, who knows what it's true. It might have been true to the individual. And. But does that mean that it's actually how things went down either way? One of the things that I found interesting was this entity told him that it existence was parasitic and that eventually they came to go separate ways. He asked it to leave. It was sad about the situation, but was willing to leave and basically expressed to him that without a host it would eventually cease to exist altogether. And so let's just suspend disbelief for a second here and go, okay. Parasites comes up constantly. Parasitic relationship. They seem to feed off of us. I'm willing to accept that idea. Loosh seems to be a theme that pops up quite a bit. I've experienced it myself. I'll put my chips there. These things seem to need us in some way shape or form. And yeah, they do manipulate world events. They co opt our leaders and our priest class like you've said. And they're nefarious and they're horrifying.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
They don't like to be called parasites.
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David Lee Corbo
They don't like to be called parasites. That seems to be true. And they, they seem like they might not be doing so well if we don't give them what they want. What they want? What do they want from us? What are we? Is what I'm getting at. We seem to be small in comparison to them, but they're going through unbelievable lengths to do this to us and have done so for quite a long time.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
It's a great question. What. What are we if we're this like biomechanical machine that can be hacked in such a deep and intrinsic way? Like just the techniques of the last hour and a half that you've been explaining to us. Some of this stuff. I'm gonna have to re watch the episode because it just goes. It goes over my head because it's.
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David Lee Corbo
Crazy, but it's a lot of work. That's clear. Yeah, it's a ton of work to suck on us. What the hell are we?
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Gray Area Monarch
Well, we are, you know, we are hosts. We are vehicles there they can use to interface and experience through different senses that they don't as readily have as disembodied spirits as disembodied parasitic entities. Right. They are living vicariously through us. Right? I mean, I mean, what do you want? We are different from them, right? They already have their existence. They're using us as a vehicle, as a meat suit. And they can interface reality with reality in a different way and experience things. Because what, what is existence other than a set of experience? I mean, I, I don't know. I mean that's, that's the way I've always seen it. You know, they just. What other point is there to do anything? You want to experience it, you want to live it. You know, just like if we do something, you know, you do different things. You know, whether you hop in a car and you get to experience going fast and around town faster or, you know, or whatever. But you know, you get to hop in a human body and you get to taste, you know, you get to touch, you get to smell, you get to live and, and have that experience. Maybe you can even experience sadness maybe, you know, and you can usually experience that in their knows. But I think it's just a, it's just a suit, a vehicle to interface and experience differently from what they do.
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David Lee Corbo
Just flesh interfaces.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
It's like, it reminds me of that, that scene in the Matrix where the, the bold guy, forget Cipher, I think his name is. He's like, yeah, I know the steak is fake, but he's sold out.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
His people just to go back and, and experience.
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David Lee Corbo
That's interesting. Cipher being.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh, that's a, that's, that is interesting.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
That's one of that. Yeah, that's one of the most profound. I mean obviously that movie was stolen.
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David Lee Corbo
But yeah, we still stole it from Tom old house.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
But I, I do really enjoy that and how it pertains to this idea of, I don't know, we're constantly being sold that the psychedelic realm is like, wow, when you go there, it's this, it's that, it's this. And that's like, well Adam, why are you trying so hard to manipulate and, and experience here?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, it seems like they're, they, they live a, an existence that is void of that. And that's, that's exactly it. Right, so demonic possession is. You want to engage in the sins of flesh. You're doing it through us. Somebody gets possessed and what do they do? It's, it's self destructive tendencies. It's sex, it's drug use, it's violence, it's all the extremes. It's like they're waiting desperately to break through. And when they break through, they're like, gotta interact with this realm. Realm. Gotta interact with this realm in an insane way because they're just hungry for it constantly. Gray, I want to respect your time and. And, you know, with that, we're gonna come to the final question of the show. It feels like a heavy one in this one, given.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
I really wonder. I've been thinking since the beginning, it's.
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David Lee Corbo
Like, what is he gonna say, dude, given what you do? But at the end of the show, we always ask, you know, our. Our guests this and. And we always get interesting answers.
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Do you like how I match my shoes with my shirt?
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David Lee Corbo
Nobody likes how you match your shoes.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
That's not the question.
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David Lee Corbo
I still can't believe that, dude. The question is, are you having fun?
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Gray Area Monarch
Am I having fun? Yeah, I have fun. I mean, you know, it. It is. It is what it is. You know, I was probably having more fun in a lot of ways when I was carefree before. I kind of woke up to some things that I don't feel right about. Right. But I still, I make time to have balance in my life. Life and, and to have fun in life and to enjoy things. You have to, you know, as much as, you know, everything is right now, and these concerns are right now. I've learned to be in it for the long haul. It's a marathon, not a sprint. So I do make sure that I enjoy things and that I take some times, you know, to have fun and to have enjoyment, because we need it. Otherwise, you know, what is life, Right? So, yeah, I have fun.
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David Lee Corbo
What the hell does a dude like you do for fun? Like, what is your. Like, do you have a hobby that.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Goes around town real fast?
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David Lee Corbo
That's it. You drive fast.
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Gray Area Monarch
You have to be a lot more fun. I'll be honest. I used to be a lot more fun. I used to be a lot more fun.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, I don't know, maybe you're doing.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Important work, dude, but it's heavy work. You and your wife, but you guys.
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David Lee Corbo
Don'T forget to have fun. You gotta have some sort of fun things.
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Gray Area Monarch
For me, it's a simple thing. Things for me, you know, some nice food, you know, and then, you know, play with the dog, you know, and go out and enjoy time with the gal, you know?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, there you go. I mean, keep it simple. I. I appreciate that.
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Gray Area Monarch
Listen, man, I've lived a wild already, so, you know, I've got a lot.
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David Lee Corbo
Of that behind you got it out.
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Gray Area Monarch
Of your System and I've already busted my body up a little bit, so, you know, I try to keep it chill now.
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David Lee Corbo
All right, well, listen, man, thank you for your time. Before we get out of here, where can everybody find your work? Where can they go and, and support you? This is important. Important.
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Gray Area Monarch
Yeah, I mean, you can find me at Gray Area Monarch on X. And you know, obviously if you have any information to submit, again, that's organized safety.org organized safety.org I also highly suggest, encourage people to go support my wife, Emma Catherine on X. She is the Emmapreneur and you can find her on YouTube and rumble at the Imagination Podcast. She's got over 200 individual survivors with full length testimony. Over 300 episodes, including on Tuesday kind of do movie nights where there's like throwbacks to, you know, old interviews and you know, radio shows that are lesser known that really go in depth with like the mind control, behavior modification, MK Ultra stuff. And also she's got an absolutely wonderful sub stack. And on the sub stack you can also find summaries of episodes. So you can kind of like get through. You have an episode outline, you have the introduction excerpt because she's like famous for her introductions of people that kind of go things and then the overall summary. So in the substack, it's absolutely wonderful. And yeah, you can find a lot of, a lot of good things. And you know, and also the substack, nothing will ever be behind a paywall with her. But you know, if you're in the. So you know, we ask that you subscribe and share and all that's free. You know, if you're in the position to and want to support the causes, that's great. You know, you know, we do what we can and you know, go hard for the people. So, you know, if y' all want to support the cause, please do so. Yep. And same thing, you can go to Organized Safety if you want to help that cause. Just go to organize safety.org and along with the person interest, location interest or general interest, general report of interest, you can also go to help organize safety. So that's there as well.
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So that's awesome, guys. If you like, I mean, we bring you regurgitated information, but if you like people actually doing research, doing research, compiling real life. Life, real life information, examples and talking to people, helping consider not. I mean, we're paying for Netflix and like that. Yeah, I get it, I get it. Hey, whatever.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, guys go.
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No, don't do that.
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David Lee Corbo
What Netflix does, man.
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Co-host (possibly Adam or similar)
Go support good people. Gray. Thank you for coming on man. I'm glad brother. It's been a while coming but I'm glad we did this. And guys, until next time, don't forget to obey, submit and comply. We'll see you later.
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Gray Area Monarch
The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a problem box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade what they see with.
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Their eyes is what there is to.
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Gray Area Monarch
See.
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