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TIME CAPSULE - 016: The Truth About Schizophrenia w/ Dr. Jerry Marzinsky
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Jerry Marzinski
We are being hypnotized by people like this. News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely. Oh yeah, dude, there's some Nephilim shit. It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying what happened to the home of the brave. These, they control this now when no one's talking about how they made us fighting they slaves. And everybody's just walking around heading the clock. Want to wake up to a dead in the grave finally too late.
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David Lee Corbeau
We need to be ready to raise us.
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Jerry Marzinski
Welcome to the end of days.
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David Lee Corbeau
Everybody is slaves. Only some are aware that the government releasing Po. Welcome back everyone to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. We have a very exciting episode. I know I say it's exciting because I know that Top and I are personally excited and I know that a lot of our fans have probably heard us bring this up ad nauseam at this point. I think we might have mentioned this gentleman maybe in the past five episodes alone. And I know that you guys were talking off air about how much his work has this interesting overlay over the things that we're discovering, Top and I, as we go through this show. So I am David Lee Corbeau, AKA the Raven. This is Top Lobster. And we are finally joined today by Mr. Jerry Marzinski. Mr. Marczinski, would you mind introducing yourself a little bit to the audience and letting them know where they could find your work?
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Jerry Marzinski
Okay. I'm a retired licensed psychotherapist with over 35 years of experience in working with thought processes of the psychotic and criminally insane in some of the most volatile psychiatric institutions in the nation. I've held positions as second lieutenant in the Arizona Civil Air Patrol, Assistant Scoutmaster. My formal academic training comprises a BA in Psychology from Temple University, master's degree in rehab counseling from the University of Georgia, and two years of PhD studying of psychology program. I'm the co author of An Amazing Journey into the Psychotic Mind Breaking the Spell of the Ivory Tower. And I've been on the front lines in mental health for a long time and I've seen what's going on and it's a. It's a frigging joke what they're doing. This drug infused merry go round of the mental health system that doesn't cure anybody or anything. That's making these the psychiatric mafia and big Pharma, billions of dollars a year. It's crazy what they're doing now, Jerry.
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Top Lobster
Just to jump straight into it. You think they're doing this for money or other, like, more nefarious purposes? Because obviously your work kind of goes from scientific to, like, right into supernatural and the occult. And a better question for you, was that a shock for you when that first happened? Because I can imagine most people who are going into the, like, the education field, especially to become a doctor. You're very, like, literary. What's in this book, taking that very serious. My wife is an rn, so, like, I know how that kind of mind operates. And then to be confronted with what you were confronted with, what's that. What's that like for you?
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Jerry Marzinski
Oh, when I realized that the voices that schizophrenics were hearing were actually entities, it was a major shock. You know, I actually shut down for a day when. When. When that happened. And then being threatened by the voices was. It was another. Another shock. I didn't want to believe that these voices were hallucinate, you know, were entities, you know, when I. When I first came out of graduate school, like everybody else, I believed that these things were hallucinations, because that's what the book said. You know, all the psychology books, all the. All the. Yeah, the voices. Schizophrenics here are hallucinations. When I got onto the front lines, things took a very different turn when I. When I could see what's happening with my own eyes, you know, and when I first started at Central State Hospital, which was the largest psychiatric hospital on the planet at the time, there were 10,000 patients there. When I got there, it was like a sea of mental illness. But for somebody who was an adrenaline junkie and interested in abnormal psychology, it was. For me, it was like a candy store, you know, a strange candy store. So here I could see.
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Top Lobster
I can see the type of person you are now, Jerry. Because my wife, immediately after graduating, she went into the ER and described it much like you describe it, but I'm like. I asked her, why do you keep going back there? And it's kind of like I did. There's something about it, like the people that work there and retire from there. She no longer does it, thank God. But there's something about that that draws a certain personality type. So I'm noting that.
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Jerry Marzinski
Oh, Yeah, I spent 10 years working in big hospital ERs in the last 10 years of my formal work before I went into my own private practice. And it wasn't boring. It wasn't ever boring, There was always something happening. So for an adrenaline junkie, it's one of the places to be. But when I got to this large state hospital, I noticed that the voices that these schizophrenics were hearing weren't what I thought they were. I mean, when they say they're hallucinations and that's all they said in the psych books. Oh, yeah, they're hallucinations. And you think of a hallucination as something that's crazy and random and makes no sense. You know, it's just all over the place. No, it wasn't like that at all. What I first noticed was that these schizophrenics were carrying on long, involved, coherent conversations with their voices. They were conversations and arguments, and they weren't at all random or like word salad. I mean, they were perfectly coherent. So what it sounded like was if you're listening to somebody talk on the telephone and you only can hear one side of the conversation. So I could hear these guys conversing with these voices and responding to them, but I couldn't hear what the voices were saying. So that struck me as odd. Another thing that struck me as odd was nobody in that entire hospital was interested in what the voices were telling these people. Nobody. I mean, here's hundreds, many hundreds of staff there. I mean, the place sprawled over, I think it was over 3,000 acres they had assigned to that hospital. There were over 200 buildings. And I never saw anybody curious about what those voices were telling these people except me. And I'd asked all the psychiatrists I worked with, I asked psychologists, I said, what are the voices? What are they telling these people? And they would just say, well, they're hallucinations, which is what they were taught in college. That's what they taught in medical school, but they haven't done any research on them whatsoever. It's just like the arrogant psychiatric mafia and big pharma have, you know, like the high priest of ancient Egypt have just come out and goes, we hereby declare that the voices are hallucinations because we say so without any research into it whatsoever.
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David Lee Corbeau
Is there a fear from the clinical side of things that communicating with, or not necessarily communicating with, but entertaining the dialogue. What's the dialogue about? What are they communicating about? That that somehow feeds into what they would consider an illusion and that it could further progress or further spiral the situation. So it's really almost a liability aspect where I guess the practitioner wouldn't want to be liable for, you know, increasing the delusions and and so, you know, by that virtue, then these are just. It doesn't matter what they're saying, what the conversations are about. They're strictly hallucinations and let's continue forward.
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Jerry Marzinski
That's exactly right. And that's what the morons say. But that's not the truth of the matter at all. Okay? And I got called up twice by psychiatrists for asking patients to tell me what their voices were telling me. And that's exactly what I was told the first one. The voices don't like people asking about them. So they will steer people away from those that are asking about them, or they will act up because they don't want to. They want to be seen as part of the person's psyche, as part of their thought stream. And that's what's so dangerous about them, because they sound just like the person's. The thousands of thoughts that run through a person's head every day, except the content is very different, the intention is very different. But if it's schizophrenic, I've talked to several of them. They ask. They're as curious about what the voices are as I was. And they would ask the voices, what are you? Who are you? And the response was, we are you. They want them to believe that those voices that they're hearing are coming from them and belong to them. If they believe that, they will turn into the voices and be psychotic. It's a very dangerous situation once those voices start, because they sound just like the thousands of other voices that the person hears in his head every day. We all hear a voice in our head talking to us all the time. Everybody does. The question is never asked. Who's listening? You're hearing that voice, but who's listening to it and how much of it is true. Well, there's another layer when it comes to schizophrenia. Those voices sound just like the thousands of voices that are running through your head every day. I mean, they sound the same. They have access to the person's memory. They can pull up every rotten thing that that person's ever done and rub it in his face until they turn them negative. So what they are, they're parasites. They have to turn the person emotional state negative before they can take the energy. Now, that's another thing that psychiatry doesn't see either, that there's a one to one correlation between these, the voices coming and the person's energy being drained down to nothing. And they don't just have schizophrenics.
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Top Lobster
Are you talking about, like, physical energy or Something like loosh.
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Jerry Marzinski
Well, loosh. Now, you can look at it as loose, but it turns into physical energy because these guys can't even get out of bed. So I've talked to a number of them that, you know, that they had an appointment in the morning, and they were so drained after a night of being attacked by the voices, they couldn't even get out of bed. So these things are feeding off of these people. And like I said, they don't just hit schizophrenics. They control them more than they do most people, but they hit us all. So, you know, you might have been walking down the sidewalk one day and some guy irritates you or something, and here's this thought comes into your mind to beat the crap out of him or whack him up the head with a baseball bat. Or you might be standing on a bridge and you go, I wonder what it would like to do? To be. To jump. Or why don't you just turn into oncoming traffic? Those kind of thoughts, they don't come from you. Matter of fact, Emmanuel Swedenborg says none of your thoughts come from you. You decide what thoughts you want to attend to.
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Top Lobster
Let me propose something to you. There's a cliff in California. I believe it's called Suicide cliff. Right. They found out. Well, people would go there, they'd stop at this gas station, and people that weren't suicidal, a lot of them would just commit suicide. But the engineers and scientists or whatever found out that something about the. What's the word? Like the acoustics, the acoustic resonance of this cove that people were in, it would draw them like it would want to. It would make them want to commit suicide or at least have these thoughts. Have you ever thought about some, like just geographical locations, acoustics, frequencies that would enhance the ability for these entities to come through faster or perhaps like the really bad ones hang out there, you know what I mean? Like, why. Why would this be happening?
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Jerry Marzinski
I don't know, but I've heard of something similar. They called it the dog suicide bridge. I think it's in the uk, you know, where dogs just leap off of that bridge to their deaths and nobody can explain why.
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David Lee Corbeau
Yeah, there was some sort of a. We were talking to a guest and we got onto the track of infrasound and how some. Some animals can emit such a low frequency that it actually causes a feeling of dread in human beings. And that sort of mirrors this experience. When people have a. Maybe like a sleep paralysis experience, there's often this sort of vibrational almost an electric buzzing, a sensation that's accompanied with a tremendous feeling of dread. And so we went down this interesting path about how various frequencies can produce different emotional states. But. But very high dramatic emotional states. For example, the fact that you would never experience that level of dread that you would in a sleep paralysis episode with some sort of, you know, shadow entity that these people describe. Oftentimes that that feeling of dread simply never manifests itself in waking life in any other situation. And so whatever these entities operate through, it often seems like they could sort of evoke high level emotional states, whether it's rage or sadness or. Or fear. Right. And you're talking about how these things, they will put you to your lowest and feed off of that energy. They're sort of a reciprocal event taking place where they can make you feel that way. And then they feed off of it. And it's a cycle. And then they do this essentially until they drain you. But, Dr. Marzinski, I do want to mention to you, and I wanted to get your thoughts on it. I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this. I talk about it often on my show. My aunt is a schizophrenic and multiple personality disorder. And she has had a lot of very uncanny experiences that I think I find maybe my. The rest of my family is uncomfortable talking about sort of things like precognition. She seems to have an ability at times, or at least there are anecdotal stories where she knows something seemingly like, insignificant that is about to happen and then does take place. And it's never like, groundbreaking, you know, but she does seem to have, like, this little uncanny window into future events. And like I said, they're never like big, tremendous events. They're seemingly insignificant. But she does seem to know them sometimes. She also has this experience where she will smell a sort of a sulfuric smell. And then this is her cue that some entity is around. She calls it the devil. But the way that she smells it or the way that she describes the scent is often the way that other people who have experiences run ins with various entities. And we're talking from, you know, someone who is sort of a victim of, like, a demonic encounter that they find very difficult to explain. But oftentimes they will say that it was first caught on to as far as their senses by a smell, a sulfuric smell, something rotten accompanied with a sulfuric smell. And also, people who experience cryptids, interestingly enough, will also describe a very similar smell. And my aunt, she also has this. These events where she's been able to find things. For example, like she'd be in the care of another aunt of mine, but she'd know exactly where to find sort of gold. So if my aunt had stashed away her jewelry for fear that my schizophrenic aunt was going to find it and do something, she'd know where to find it. And, you know, she claimed that it was basically the voices that told her, but nobody was willing to really have those conversations with her. It was just very short lived, you know. Oh, the voices. You know, I could, I would overhear it as a child. Oh, how did she find the gold? I thought you hid it. I thought you hid your jewelry. She said that the voices told her where it was and then there's no explanation for that. And people find that very uncomfortable. I know in your work this is something that you've come across. Maybe I'm speaking out of, out of school here, but I do believe you've described things as precognition and also the ability to find things that otherwise they shouldn't have been able to. And I wonder maybe if you could talk a little bit about that.
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Jerry Marzinski
Yeah, well, first of all, multiple personality and schizophrenia are two very different things, okay? The multiple personality, it's like they are actually different, objective, different personalities. So one personality could be violently allergic to shrimp, and another personality in that same same person could eat shrimp and not be affected at all. I mean, so it's that big of a difference. These are individual personalities. Do you mean like schizophrenia is a different thing?
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Top Lobster
Is that like an actual physical reaction to shrimp or would it just be a psychosomatic?
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Jerry Marzinski
No, no, it would be an actual physical allergic reaction to shrimp. You know, one person breaks out in hives, one personality, the other personality can eat shrimp fine, and there's no reaction whatsoever in the same body. So it's a totally different phenomena than schizophrenia. Schizophrenia, they, it started out, I mean, it means split mind, that's what it means. But the, it's characterized by these entities, these voices that the psychiatric mafia insists are hallucinations. But they know stuff. I mean, I've talked to especially meth addicts when they run out of meth. The voices would tell them where to go and when to be there, and some stranger would show up with meth. Add one prisoner, tell him, watch out for this guy over here, he's going to assault you. And a day or two later that happened. So they know stuff that the person himself doesn't know, and they use that to get their Claws in the person, like, well, see, we can do this for you. And once they get your trust, then they got you. They're feeding off you. They are parasites. And the voices never say anything good. It's always bad stuff. It's like, you're no good. You're rotten, you're ugly, you're stupid, nobody likes you. You're, you know, every rotten thing that you could think of. Those voices tell these people. So they really bring them down into dumps. And once they, once they get them down there, then there's a one to one correspondence between the voices coming and their energy disappearing. So these things are parasites and they feed off of all of us. Not, not just schizophrenics. You know, you start thinking a negative thought, you know, you ask yourself, well, where does that come from? I mean, where, where does your thought stream come from? It wasn't there when you were born. You know, where do thoughts come from? I mean, nobody's ever dug into a person's brain and found the thought in there. So your brain is like a radio, a radio receiver. It's turned to a certain frequency. The schizophrenics are turned to a very low frequency and the voices want to keep them there. So even if they try to, you know, do these, what do they call them? These, where you repeat a positive phrase or something like that, the voices turn it back. Yeah, mantra or something like that. The voices turn it back down. Okay, so you ask yourself, well, where do thoughts come from? That's never addressed by psychiatry or psychology. Neither is any spiritual matter. We're all spiritual beings. That's completely ignored by psychiatry and psychology. You know, big pharma treats us like biological machines. Those drugs that they're dishing out are for the most part very toxic, especially the antipsychotic drugs. They rot your brain out with long term use and they lie about it. You know, they won't tell the patient how dangerous these drugs are. The antipsychotic drugs are some of the most dangerous drugs used in medicine today. And when they found out.
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David Lee Corbeau
I'm sorry to interrupt, but my aunt, she would actually neglect her medication. So when she was on her medication, you know, you could have a conversation with her, but the way she described it was like a sort of a dulling effect, almost as if these things are like sedatives. It's like we can't really identify the problem, we can't solve it, we can't fix it. And so let's.
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Top Lobster
Mute.
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David Lee Corbeau
Yes, exactly. And so negative. Yes. And that was so negative for her that she would rather have the, the, the experience of multiple personalities than to be on the, on the medication. And so yeah, that's we, it's like a terrible band aid that is not at all addressing the actual issue. We just sedate them.
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Jerry Marzinski
That's right. And the side effects are awful. They're just God awful. And they don't even tell the person the worst of them. You know, they'll tell them, oh, it'll blur your vision, there will be sexual dysfunction, you'll feel a little, you know, drugged up, you'll be a little groggy. You know the common side effects, they'll tell the patient, but they won't tell them, hey, with long term use, it's going to rot out your brain, it's going to rot out your central nervous system, it's going to rot out your peripheral nervous system. They don't put any of that out. They don't tell them about the acnesia and the nervous disorders that it causes. Matter of fact, at the state hospital and some private hospitals, that's all they know to do is to drug these people. So when these side effects, these nasty neurological side effects start, they'll give them another drug to sedate them more so they're not feeling the side effects from the antipsychotics so that their, their brain is continually being rotted out. There's permanent neurological damage and they're giving them stuff like what is it? Cogentin to mask that, that neurological damage. You know, these people are. And they know they're not curing anything. They know it, they're not curing anything. They're taught in, in college that this is all there is. You know, that these drugs are all there is. There's a number of different energetic therapies coming out right now that will deal with most psychological problems that the big pharma and psychiatry and psychology don't want you to know about. One of which is the Mace energy method. You know, it's invented in Australia and it will handle most psychological problems and get rid of them, cure them in a couple of sessions just like that.
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Top Lobster
What exactly is it? Is it like a frequency machine?
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Jerry Marzinski
It's, it's an energetic therapy. So your thoughts are energetic, your, your, your memory is energetic, your feelings are energetic, you know, so your memory is energetic. So it will go in there and it will, it will defuse the traumas that caused these problems. Now it's great with depression, it's great with neurosis, it's great with anxiety. It's great for kind of ptsd, you know, most common psychological problem. It's having a little bit of more trouble with, with schizophrenia because those voices are. Are different entities, but it will remove the trauma that they feed off of. So even though in a lot of cases it won't. It won't completely cure schizophrenia, it'll make it a lot better, you know, and then once you educate the person as to what's actually going on, that this isn't a biochemical imbalance as the big pharma made up. That was a complete fabrication. This biochemical imbalance crap. First they started off blaming the mothers. Say, oh, mothers did something wrong, and that's why the kids are becoming schizophrenic. But everybody could see that the mothers were going, no, no, we didn't do anything wrong. Look, I mean, you know, we were great parents and the kid became schizophrenic anyway. So what they had to do was boost it up into an area where people couldn't see or verify what they were saying. So then they started with this genetic garbage. Oh, it's a genetic disorder, you know, and, and they, they're still touting that. I mean, even today, they're still. They're still touting that. And, and it's been proved completely wrong.
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David Lee Corbeau
So, Marzinski, is there a correlation that's been found between childhood trauma and schizophrenia?
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Jerry Marzinski
Yeah, there's a correlation between all kinds of trauma and schizophrenia. You know, there's usually with schizophrenics, you'll find, uh, severe physical, emotional, psychological abuse, sexual abuse. It's there. I mean, virtually all psychological problems are caused by some kind of trauma. You can be linked to some kind of trauma. And that Mace. Mace does great about keeping. Getting rid of those things. You want to know more about it? There's a website, it's called. It's www.macenergymethod.com. backslash about backslash.
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Top Lobster
Okay, I'm definitely gonna check. Check that out. Let me, let me ask. I mean, when I, you know, I'm like, I'm more of a political guy, or at least I was. And then I started to figure out the kind of like, energy. Energy stuff and, and this, you know, conspiracy minded stuff. And when I look at like, certain events, 9, 11 Covid a huge one. These are trauma events. And in my opinion, most likely done on purpose to feed on our.
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Jerry Marzinski
And so is war.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. Oh, that's a huge one.
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Jerry Marzinski
All the worst that they constantly keep running.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, it's just Demoral. I called it demoralization before, but now I'm thinking just straight trauma. And it kind of does make sense if, if you are, let's say like a lower vibrational entity that is in charge of this large apparatus called the government. And you kind of wanted to produce more ways for other entities to get into your general population of 300 million plus people. And then you combine that with antipsychotics, which is what you were just talking about, and it's. I feel like that creates the world we have today where you're taking like half the people off the grid, then the other half, you're trying to drive them to insanity. You know, the ones that you haven't dulled down. Then there's a small remnant of us who are kind of seeing through the bullshit and still have our minds about us, you know, as of right now, man, this is. It doesn't look very good.
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Jerry Marzinski
No, that's exactly right. Matter of fact, we've identified some 20, 23 patterns that these voices run. Now the deal is if they're running fixed, repeatable, non variable patterns, they can't be hallucinations, which the psychiatric mafia is insisting, with no research into the matter whatsoever, they're just declaring that these things are hallucinations. And what's interesting is that these patterns that these psychotic voices run are the same patterns that we're hearing over the television every day from the mainstream media right now. And I'll run through some of them for you. Negativity. The voices are consistently, persistently negative. They don't say anything good. You turn on the television and it's constantly bad news. This person died, that person died. People shot. Many people died in the war. It's all bad news being broadcast constantly, all the time. Their voices are anti religious. They can't stand the 23rd Psalm. They can't stand the person going to church. They can't stand them reading the Bible. They can't stand them talking to preachers or being anywhere around the priest. What hallucination would do that? Why aren't they, if they're hallucinations, why aren't they all over the place? Why aren't some positive, why aren't some negative, why aren't some neutral, why aren't they all over the place like regular hallucinations? They're not. They're consistently negative. And you can see this for yourself. Anybody who works with these people, anybody who has a schizophrenic family member can see this for themselves. You can see these things for yourself. They foster and create negative emotion. They don't ever say anything good to the person. It's all bad stuff. They're creating that negative emotion because that's what they feed off of. And then their energy level drops once these voices attack them. There's a one to one correlation between being attacked by these voices and their energy being drained. So they're parasites. And they're not just hitting schizophrenics, they're hitting all of us. You know, any negative thought you have about yourself or anybody else is put into your head by the dark side. Your brain is actually like a radio receiver. You decide what show you want to listen to. And if you're tuned to the negative stuff, that's what you're going to get. So these things are parasites. And people who are schizophrenics need to understand that these voices are feeding off of them. They're not there to help them, you know, they're there to drive them crazy and suck their energy. They get louder when ignored. I remember at the state hospital one day I was in with a psychiatrist and patient. The patient was complaining about the voices and the psychiatrist said, oh, they're just hallucinations, just ignore them. So I called that guy in a week later and I, you know, I didn't know anything much back then and I said, how's that working for you? You know, when you ignore the voices, what happens? He said, it's not working at all. They get louder. And that's a consistent thing. You can talk to all of them. If they try to ignore the voices, the voices get louder. They will not be ignored. They foster self destructive or self defeating behavior. They're always putting these people up to sabotaging themselves, to getting themselves in trouble, to getting themselves thrown in jail or prison. Once they get them thrown in prison and the prisons have become the state hospitals now since they closed all the state hospitals. So they're putting all the schizophrenics in there now and they're being abused and threatened and terrorized by some of these other gangster inmates. And then when their sentence is up, they release them with two weeks of medicine and 50 bucks and said, okay, you're free. You know, they're in much worse shape than they ever went in there on. So the prisons are generating worse and worse criminals. You know, I've seen them release people that I knew would kill somebody in six months, but their sentence was up, they're done. And rehabilitation in the prisons is a joke. It used to exist back, you know, 10 or 20 years ago. They used to have rehabilitation programs. Now they have virtually nothing. And the private prisons are even worse. They're just holding tanks. They don't do anything. They don't do any kind of treatment, they don't do any kind of groups. They're just friggin stagnant holding tanks for these people, you know. And they pay off the legislators and go, oh yeah, we can keep your people imprisoned for cheaper than anybody else. Because they don't do anything for them. They're just sitting there rotting away. So the voices demand the attention of the victim. You know, they maneuver for increased control over the victims, just like the government does. More and more control all the time. They gaslight their victims. Government's good at that. They manipulate perception. Government's good at that. Now one thing they do have, they have complete access to the schizophrenic's memory. Because these are energetic entities. They can go in there and they can pull up every rotten thing that person ever did and start rubbing it in their faces. You remember when you did this? Remember when you hurt this guy? Remember when you did that? And that generates negative emotional energy also. They've even found stuff that the person forgot about 10 years ago. They brought it up.
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David Lee Corbeau
Dr. Marzinski does. This correlation I find really interesting, and I'm glad you brought this up again, because I had written it down. You mentioned it earlier, them having access to the memories and sort of throwing past trespasses in the victim's face. Right. As, as a manipulation tool. And so it's, I guess it demoralizes them. It gives them, you know, it's going to produce more negative energy, thereby more control over the victim. And this reminds me very much of, you know, we could just look to the Exorcist film where. And there's plenty of them. They've made this movie ad nauseam over and over again. And there's always the, the, the person who's been possessed by this entity has somehow the ability to recall something about, let's say, for example, the priest who is praying over them, trying to exorcise the demon. Suddenly this person turns to them and knows a thing that they've done in the past and wields it against them in this moment. Yes, exactly. And I recently had a guest on my other show and he was talking about. He made a church in Alberta, Canada, and there's a really big drug issue out there. And he was trying to help, you know, remedy this. And one of the things that he would see is these people who were on drugs. From his perspective, he felt like they were possessed. And you know, but once again, this line right, between mental illness and demonic possession and the way that he's describing them to me is very accusatory. So even at the lower stages of, of really rampant drug use, often a user will turn very negatively towards anybody who would interact with them and use sort of accusatory language. And at its highest stages, where it really, drug abuse really looks like high level mental illness, really looks like demonic possession, there is a lot of this sort of mirrored interaction between all three of them where the, the common thread is this accusatory nature. And it got me thinking about, I, I'm not a biblical theology theologian by any means, but I just have to.
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Top Lobster
Say Satan, Satan is the accuser.
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David Lee Corbeau
Yeah, right. So, boom, through, through all of these things. That's the common line, Satan the accuser. And you can see this behavior across all of these. And then that right there obviously is something that human beings have been struggling with since our inception. It's, you know, it's in our book. And, and to me, that jumps out as a really important piece of this puzzle. When you start to ask the question, why is this a common thread? Does that, does that resonate with you at all?
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Jerry Marzinski
That resonates right on 100%. And the worst drug out there is meth. You know, I've seen more prisoners go psychotic on meth than any other drug out there. I mean, it's a very dangerous drug. The prisoners called it the devil's drug. When I was working psych in the prison system, they'd start off and, you know, feel great. They felt like Superman. They didn't sleep, they got a lot done, felt wonderful. And then when they crashed, it was awful. And then they started hearing the voices, you know, telling them rotten things about themselves. And they go, oh, that's just a hallucination. It'll go away. And when they came down, it did. And it might have gone away maybe another 20 times or 30 times or something, and then one day it didn't. They were psychotic, as psychotic as anybody in the, in the psychiatric hospital. It makes people crazy and they stay crazy. It doesn't go away. You know, so if they start hearing voices and it doesn't go away within six months, there's a very good chance they're going to be psychotic for the rest of their lives. Meth is a very, very dangerous drug. You know, it opens you up to these, these negative entities like no other drug out there. And it's coming across the border, you know, blessed by our Government at this time. By the time, you know, it's just. It's just. It's just coming by the truckload over the border. That tells you something about our government at the present time. Yeah. And Ritland, you know, they're putting. They're putting more and more kids on Ritland. I mean, they got. They got tens of thousands of kids on Ritalin now and maybe even more. I have the statistics somewhere, but, you know, and they move on. They move on from that. I asked prisoners who were put on Ritalin as kids, you know, well, you were feeling as good as you had in a long time. You were able to concentrate. Why did you keep taking more and more meth? Their answer was, I don't know. They're drugging kids at an enormous rate right now.
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David Lee Corbeau
Marcinski, was that something that you saw with meth users? Was that accusatory nature? Because I also feel like there's something that happens when people get addicted to really hard drugs, like. Like meth and things like that, where anybody who seeks to help them is somehow turned into the enemy. And so when I think of, like, the accusatory nature, I also think of that. Was that something that you saw particularly with meth?
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Jerry Marzinski
That's what I saw with meth and I saw with schizophrenia. You know, the voices are telling the person that anybody who's trying to help them is their enemy. You know, so that's. That's particularly difficult for moms and dads who have schizophrenic kids because they don't realize that. They don't. For the most part, they don't realize that those voices are entities trying to take over their kid. And the worst thing they can do is allow them to sit in their bedrooms by themselves listening to the voices. But the voices make it so miserable for the parents that a lot of times they just give up and say, yeah, go sit in your room and leave us alone.
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Top Lobster
It's an epidemic. Jerry, let me tell you a story about a guy that we just met to maybe even last episode, I don't remember. He was. He went on a journey similar to what you're talking about, using a drug and looking for answers from the other side. The drug was mushrooms. But what the story turns out that he told us is that he did make contact with entities from the other side, but they've been giving him advice, and it's been exactly the opposite of the. The traits that you just described with the schizophrenic entities. They're. They're giving him advice. They're helping him with diet, they're helping him with life stuff. They're saying, don't work this job. Go here. And he came on. He's fully convinced that he's communicating with them. And another overlap. There was. He was taking a lot of mushrooms to contact these things. Whenever they decided, they would give him a nudge. Hey, we want to talk. Get the mushrooms now. He says he doesn't have to anymore. He got to.
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David Lee Corbeau
I would like to also toss in there. They were pushing him. Oddly enough, this is the only time I've ever heard this. Pushing him towards Jesus and the church. Yes. And now he's. He's an avid churchgoer, prays on a regular basis, has an incredibly healthy lifestyle, has improved by almost all metrics. And. And I've just never heard any. Any of these entities that you would contact through drug use. And I'm certainly not advocating it for anybody. And. And I don't believe he did either. He even said that specifically. He said, don't do this because it's, you know, intense and horrifying in many ways, I suppose. But I've never heard anything point the user towards Christ and towards the church. That was very interesting.
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Jerry Marzinski
Well, I've heard some of these voices do that. Now, this is the first time I've ever heard of a positive outcome. Because what they do, in most cases, they'll start out positive. You know, like, I'm a spirit. I can. I know stuff that you don't. I can help you out. I can tell you where you lost that kind of stuff. And once they hooked them, then they turn on them, you know, so they want to get them hooked. And believing that they're. This is a positive entity that can help them out from the other side, like their guardian angel or Christ or something like that. Once they get them believing in them, then they turn on them and ravage them. So this is a. This is the only case, what you're telling me is the only case I've ever heard where something like that came through, except for maybe that Seth material or something like that. It's very, very rare. Usually it's the other way around, where they'll tell them, oh, I'm Christ, or I'm a positive spirit. I can help you out. And then they turn on them. So you got to be very careful with that because they want to get your trust. And once you let them in, then you've given them permission, and then you can't get rid of them. It's very difficult.
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Top Lobster
That's A hermetic principle. Would you in your studies, like what's the. Because there has to be some kind of solution, right? People aren't just left out to dry, and medication's not one of them. What have you seen?
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Jerry Marzinski
Well, the first thing people need to realize is that these aren't hallucinations and that these toxic drugs that psychiatrists are feeding these people aren't getting rid of anything. They're just, they're just, you know, like you guys said, they're major tranquilizers. All they do is dumb them down. They don't cure anything. And neither do there any depressants or any anxiety agents. They're. All they're doing is drugging the brain. So the first thing they need to understand is that these things are entities. They are not hallucinations. That they are not the person, that the voices they hear in their head do not belong to them. They come from these entities and they are marked by usually negative stuff about the person themselves or people around them. And their intent is not the same as the intent of the person themselves. That's the first thing that has to be done. And the mainstream media, big pharma, they're making over $4 billion a year on antipsychotic drugs. They don't want this information out. They're not trying to help anybody. They're not trying to cure anybody. They're trying to sell drugs. That's all they want. They could care less whether they work or not. And they've got the entire human race under their thumb. The entire Western world is believing they're bullcrap. Oh yeah. We're the only people who can treat schizophrenia. We're the mental health specialists of the world, you know, and you look at their, you would think that schizophrenics have a suicide rate of three to five times higher than the normal population. You would expect that from schizophrenics. Psychiatrists also have that same number of suicides. They're virtually identical to that of the schizophrenics. Three to five times that of the normal population. These are the people who are running the mental health system in the United States. Not only the United States, all over the western world. They're curing nothing.
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Top Lobster
They're, they're also, they're also making the most contact with these entities. If this was radiation, you know, and someone was like just green glowing and the doctors are sitting there next to him, it's like, you're gonna get that dude. Especially if you don't know what you're dealing in, which is like one of the most important things in life in general. This is, this whole thing is very special, spiritual. If you don't know that, that it's spiritual, then you're going to be like, I don't know, trust a plan with Q. Or you're going to be like, I'm going to go over here and cut my dick off. Because people said so. You got no, you're flying blind. And most doctors are. It's baffling.
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Jerry Marzinski
That's exactly right. That's a good. And that's why doctors, especially psychiatrists, are attacked by their patients more than virtually any other doctors. And, and I remember seeing that when I got to Central State Hospital, psychiatrists were always getting slugged. It was more than psych nurses, it was more than psychologists, counselors. Their assault rate was virtually identical to that of attendants who were working 24 hours a day on the wards with these psychotic people. And I think they were a little bit afraid of these people. So they didn't want you irritating them at all because you could never predict what they were going to do. So they didn't want anybody asking questions that would irritate the voices. So you look at the overall. So here's psychiatry, the psychiatric mafia and big pharma saying we're the only people that can treat mental illness. We're the experts. You look at what they're doing. I mean, last year there was 49,200 people in the United States committed suicide in 2002. 2022. That's almost 50,000 people killed themselves in the United States alone. And this is with more antipsychotic and psychiatric drugs than have ever existed on the planet in the history of mankind. And this is happening year after year after year after year. So what's the report card on these guys? You know, I'd give them an F. You know, the CDC reports 132 people in the US kill themselves every day with more psychiatric drugs on the planet than ever before ever. So only 50, 50,000 people died in the Vietnam War that lasted 10 years. And you got almost 50,000 people killing themselves every year, year after year after year, taking these friggin antidepressant drugs that don't work worth a crap and make them feel like crap. The MESA Energy Method could handle this. They could fix these people, but they won't promote it. Between 2000 and 2018, the suicide rates increased 37%. They're going up and up and up. Every year they're going up. And according to the cdc. The US suicide rates have reached the highest level since World War II. And this is with more psychiatrists and psychologists being in existence than ever before. Does this look like it constitutes an effective mental health system? It's garbage. It's a drug fueled merry go round that just goes round and round and round. I've seen it in the private psychiatric hospitals. I've seen it in the state hospitals. I've seen it in the mental health centers. They bring these people in, they milk them for all the insurance they got. They fill them full of these toxic psych drugs with nasty side effects. They release them six months later, they go off these drugs because they can't stand them anymore. They go psychotic again. They go back to the hospital and the merry go round goes around again, fleecing them for eight to $10,000 every time it spins. And then they complain about the medical cost and the US being out of control. I would give these psychiatrists and this western mental health system an F. A solid F minus. They're worthless. They're more than worthless.
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Top Lobster
See, I disagree, Jerry. I'd give them an A because if you're looking at something like this, it doesn't appear. Like you said, the correlation between psychologists, mental health psychologists and, and suicide is on like a consistent level, spiking up together. I was like, yeah, if I wanted this to look this way, I would keep building this medical system. If I. There's no. At this point, there's so much evidence, like we'll talk about the COVID vaccine or whatever. There's so much evidence where it's like, it's clearly dangerous, clearly bad, but they keep pushing it almost as if the desired outcome is, you know, what they're at. So, yeah, A plus for these guys for doing whatever evil shit that they're doing for.
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David Lee Corbeau
For executing an effective plan. One of the medical aspects of this.
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Jerry Marzinski
An effective deleterious plan to destroy the human race. They get an A plus for that.
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David Lee Corbeau
Yeah, they're doing.
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Jerry Marzinski
For drugging down the entire population of the western world. I mean they're.
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David Lee Corbeau
Everybody's on SSRIs.
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Jerry Marzinski
That's right. And that don't work. They're making again at $14 billion a year selling those and 14 billion for antipsychotic drugs. We're talking billion, not million, billion.
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David Lee Corbeau
And then when you come rise. It's actually causing people to have psychotic events.
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Top Lobster
Man. Guys, the Nazis won World War II. This is like the Nazis, World War II. They're in contact with some kind of entities and they're actually in control. Of this government that's doing this. That's the only way any of this shit makes sense. Otherwise, your own government hates you.
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David Lee Corbeau
There's an aspect of this that I really want to talk about, which is the fact that this entire time, schizophrenia and diseases that are mental health, diseases that are like it, are often described as hereditary and that would need to be completely revamped through this scope. When I was younger, I explained to you that my aunt has these issues. And I actually was in her presence one day. I was very young. I was a toddler. And she was. This is before, I think she was fully diagnosed. And we just kind of thought, like, you know, she's a little bit off. She had a weird request. She asked for me to grab her the silverware drawer. So I go to grab her the silverware drawer. I'm maybe five and. Strange request. I. I managed to pull it out of the. The drawer, the. You know, the entire thing. And I'm walking down the hallway with it, and I suddenly hear a voice. I hear a woman's voice, and it sounds like it doesn't come from my ears. I knew this even as a child. I didn't hear it with my ears, but I heard it very loud and clear just within my own head. But it was distinguishable as not my own voice. This was a woman's voice. She was monotone, not angry, not happy, none of that. And she told me, as very matter of factly, that I was going to drop the drawer. And suddenly everything became sort of distorted and like, I got vertigo. I would say. Yeah, like vertigo. And I dropped the drawer, and the. The noise of the drawer snapped me out of it. And my aunt was furious. And it was a whole thing. But because of that event, I was worried for my entire life that I was going to be schizophrenic. And I became aware peripherally of this idea that there is sort of a. An age marker. 26 to 20, 29 or something like that. If. If it doesn't manifest itself by then, you're good. So, honestly, I didn't talk about it for a long time until I got over that hump. And, you know, nothing ever happened since. Everything's good. I'm now 33 years old. But hereditary is not the way that we should be looking at this situation.
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Jerry Marzinski
It's not that they haven't found any evidence of hereditary, but what they have found is something called familiar spirit. Spirits that run in the family. Okay, so the schizophrenic creates the conditions in the child or family member for these entities to move in. You know, there is no genetic marker for these things that's been disproven. There is no biochemical imbalance, which is what they're still teaching in the universities. I mean, psychiatrists are still graduating thinking that schizophrenia is due to a biochemical imbalance in the brain. That was made up in the 70s, I think by Eli Lilly. When they came out with Prozac, they needed something to explain why their anti psych or their antidepressant drug had an effect. So they go, well, it must be some kind of chemical something. So they made up this chemical imbalance theory and they're still selling it today, even though it's been disproven over and over.
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David Lee Corbeau
There's no actual study. Right. There's no. Like, in order to prove that there's a chemical imbalance of the brain, you would almost need to have a sample of a brain. And I would imagine, I mean, I'm clearly no chemist or biologist, but you would need to do something on a physical level to determine what the normal levels of cortisol. And there's been no studies that were conducted like that that showed anything.
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Jerry Marzinski
And that's one of the first things. Yeah, that's one of the first things I noticed when I went to work at the state hospital. They never gave any kind of test to determine what was out of balance or by how much ever. And I'm like, well, if there's a biochemical imbalance, how come they're not given some kind of lab work? Why not some kind of EEG or EKG or some kind of test to determine what chemicals are out of balance by how much. And they're still not doing it, even though they'll tell you it's a chemical imbalance. And you go to your psychiatrist, you ask them, how do you know it's a chemical imbalance? What's out of balance by how much? They have no idea. I mean, it's just like throwing a dartboard. They go, well, we'll start with this drug and then we'll see how that does. And if that doesn't work, we'll try another one and we'll try another one. They'll just go around the whole circle of drugs until they find one that seems to work the best. They have no idea what the chemical balance of the brain actually is. They don't know.
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David Lee Corbeau
They don't know anything.
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Jerry Marzinski
Bull crap.
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Top Lobster
It's incompetent bullcrap. They did this to my wife. She. She had, she had to get some. Some shot. I forgot what it was for a virus that she's already had to work in a medical setting, and this is just vaccine stuff. And she goes, well, I've actually had this virus, so I probably have titers to it. Can you check my titers before you just jab me up with whatever? And they're like, the fuck are you talking about? Just take this shot. Like, there's not even a thought. And they could measure this very easily with a blood test, so something else is a little more obscure from the brain. They're like, we're not going to do that shit. Just like, whatever.
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David Lee Corbeau
When I was a kid. When I was a kid, I was diagnosed with adhd. This is how they diagnosed me. They brought me into an office, therapist, whatever it was. They sat down with me and my mother. I'm like, maybe this is unbelievable. They looked at me and they're like, yeah, checks out. No, I'm sitting there with my. My mom and. And the therapist or the psychologist, I'm not too sure which one actually, you know, oversees this. Hands me a packet of math problems. And I think I was maybe like 12 or 11. And he hands me a packet of math problems, sits me down, tells me to complete them to the best of my abilities. While that's happening, he's discussing me and my performance in school with my mother in front of me, which is very distracting. So I'm listening to what they're talking about, and I'm trying my best to fill out my inability to complete the packet to whatever standard that they expected me to be able to complete. It was enough for them to put me on Adderall. And so for my. I think I would have been 13 years old. That's eighth grade for my eighth grade experience. I was on Adderall for a majority of that year based off of just anecdotal stories about my inability to focus in class and then my inability to finish a math packet in a timely fashion while they talked about me in front of me. That was how I was. And then essentially put me on meth.
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Top Lobster
Jerry, is this applicable, like, to. If we're to create another Nuremberg trial? Like, I don't want to implicate you in it, but, like, man, there's so many people guilty of just that story right there is baffling. They're like, hey, kid, we're going to ruin your life if you don't do these mad problems within a certain amount of time. And then they just go ahead and do it.
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Jerry Marzinski
Let me tell you how Bad. It actually is. And these are old stats. These are very old stats. These are from 2017. It's much higher right now. In 2017, more than 7.2 million kids have been put on psychiatric drugs. Okay, more than. It's like over 622,000 of these children are under the age of five, under the age of five on these major psychiatric drugs. Over 80,000 are on ADHD drugs, which leads to meth in a lot of cases. Over 38,000 of these kids under the age of 5 are on antidepressant drugs. Here's the side effects of antidepressant. Nausea, weight gain, trouble sleeping, dry mouth, blurred vision, dizziness, anxiety, headache, diarrhea, constipation, sexual problems, fatigue, tremors, increased swelling, lower alcohol content, bleeding, lower sodium levels, vomiting, restlessness, muscle cramps and seizures. And they're putting these kids on these antidepressant drugs. And you wonder, does this help anything?
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David Lee Corbeau
Maybe? These effects that I experienced, these side effects that I experienced, I would imagine that they line up with meth. So what I experienced three things definitively was dramatic weight loss, loss of appetite, and increased irritability. And so that year, I got into an incredible amount of fights. I actually had to go to the scared straight program in order to graduate from middle school into high school. And to me, that sounds like, I imagine meth addicts are pretty irritable. And I also see them getting very thin, and they don't seem to be focused on eating very much.
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Jerry Marzinski
No. So, you know, with somebody who really has adhd, you give them Ritalin or Adderall and they fall asleep. It's the exact opposite. So you were misdiagnosed and they kept you on an amphetamine as a kid for that, that length of time. Get the amount of kids that are on antipsychotic drugs. Over 85,000 kids are on antipsychotic drugs. These are the drugs I was telling you about that destroy the person's brain. So they're rotting out the brains of little kids that are under the inflammation. That's in 2017. That's in 2017, and it's much higher.
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Top Lobster
Now imagine right after Covid that spike. Jesus Christ.
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Jerry Marzinski
Over 389,000 are in anti anxiety drugs which are addicting. These are kids. These people have no morals whatsoever. I mean, it's incredible what they're doing.
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David Lee Corbeau
The root of this is to get children to adhere to a failing public schooling system. Right. This school system is broken. The general public schooling system across the US is broken in so many different ways. Children Are not finding it to be engaging. It's not fruitful. They're not. They. They don't want to be there. Right? This is essentially. Many children describe it as prison, right? This is a pseudo prison system. And because your child will not bend to the rules and adhere to the system properly, then you go to a medical professional who says, put your kid on meth.
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Top Lobster
It's almost like one government institutional system that is a failure or a complete success. Failure feeds the other. Like in the education system, we can talk all day about what's wrong with it. I homeschool my kids because I don't fuck with that stuff. But it's like, yeah, it's a failure done on purpose to feed the next thing almost. It's disgusting. It's horrific. I mean, they want you dead and they want to have sex with your children. And they think it's funny is what constantly comes in my brain whenever I think about this. They think it's funny.
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Jerry Marzinski
Yeah. The duplicity is incredible. Especially with their dsm. This the bible. It's the bible for psychology and psychiatry. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders completely made up. All these mental illnesses are completely drained up by this. This panel of psychiatrists that meets every couple of years. And they just make these things up. They vote them in and they vote them out. You know, it's a complete work of fiction. There is no test to test for any of the mental disorders in this group in this book. And it looks impressive. You open it up and here's all these numbers in subcategories. And it looks like some scientific thing. It's far from it. It's a joke, you know, it's a series of behaviors that these people have pathologized. So every single one of the more than 296 psychiatric disorders in the DSM 5 and later have been completely made up. The list of fabricated mental disorders appear to be increasing astronomically with each edition of the dsm. They make more of them all the time. They have to use these. These categories to charge insurance companies, you know. In 1952, the DSM listed 106 psychiatric disorders. In 1980, there were 256 of them. DSM 5 lists 297. And they appear to be fabricating more with every addition. Two thirds of the psychiatrists on the board that are making these things up are associated with big pharma. They're getting kickbacks from big pharma. Not One of these 297 medical disorders has a defining lab test or any other kind of test to diagnose what these things are. There are no blood tests. There's no lab tests. There's no X rays. These are just classes of behaviors that are made up by psychiatrists and voted to be a mental disorder.
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David Lee Corbeau
I think what's worse right now too is that. Talk about a layup for the pharmaceutical industry and the medical apparatus that surrounds it is that we are now in this epidemic of. I don't know if you guys have noticed this. I notice it constantly. People who are more than happy to self diagnose. There's like sort of a cult of personality that's developed around relating to or. Or you know, claiming to. Oh, that's. That's like. I can't tell you. Tick tock is inundated with. This is how to know that you have adhd. Not only that. This is what if you have this going on in your life or that going on and it's some of the most benign, inconsequential things that they'll go. This means that you have ADHD or this means that you have. That people are. There is a sort of a reward system, a cultural reward system set up around self identifying as having a mental illness. This is something that I've noticed like is rampant. As somebody who was diagnosed when I was a kid, I find it horrible to just hear this. There's almost a. It's almost become a fad. Well, that's like you think an accurate way to put it.
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Top Lobster
What's that called? Is it Munchausen syndrome where you have proxy.
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Jerry Marzinski
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. Well, you have someone abducted and then eventually they start to defend you. They start to defend their abductor or abuser. It's kind of like what's happening.
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David Lee Corbeau
Yeah, it's leech trolls in the chat actually just said it's social contagion. I think that is. That's what it's become. These obscure, hard to diagnose. No, no. No tests, no background for it. No actual evidence that there's a chemical imbalance. These things have become social contagion. And that is. I mean we're not only Are we one of. It's only us. And I believe. Where do they film Lord of the Rings? Not Australia. There's another place. I forget what it is. But there's only two. New Zealand. New Zealand and the US Are the only two countries as far as I'm concerned. I don't know if it's changed since I learned this. That actually advertise for pharmaceuticals. And so the. This is a payday for for you're doing the work of these, you know, pseudo intellectuals, these, these medical professionals who would be diagnosing it. You're doing it for them. And you, you go to them and you go, well, now it's not well, I saw a commercial and the commercial said if you experience A, B, C and D, you may be, you know, you may have this disease and may be eligible for this medication. Now it's not even that. Now it's happening for free. Nobody has to pay. The advertisers, tiktokers are doing it. It's on social media. These people who aren't even paid by the industry are telling you that this is sentient.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, they got the ball rolling.
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David Lee Corbeau
Exactly.
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Top Lobster
Mr. Marzinski, there's a great question here in the chat. I just wanted to ask you this. They said, thoughts on Christians using the name and authority of Jesus to cast out demons. There are many videos of this deliverance online and it's compelling. And one of the episodes I was listening with Tony Merkel, guy had a sleep paralysis entity on him. He like mumbled the Lord's Prayer and he said it was similar to throwing a flash, a flash bomb in the room of how the entity reacted to him. Just like violence.
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Jerry Marzinski
That's exactly right. I've seen it over and over again. They can't stand the 23rd Psalm. It's like burning them with a blowtorch. You know, Psalm 91. They can't stand. They can't stand going to church. You know, I did a little study on that once when I was in the state hospital. If the voices were very weak and the person went to church, they shut up. They didn't say anything when they got in the church. If they were moderate strength, they would just babble on so the person couldn't hear what the preacher was saying. They're very strong. They would drive them out of the church, they'd jump in there and they would run out. But yeah, why would a hallucination be anti religious? Why would they react so vehemently to the 23rd Psalm? I had one patient describe, he said that they react to the 23rd Psalm like worms thrown on a hot frying pan. And several, several others of them have, have affirmed that they can't stand the 23rd Psalm. Why would a hallucination do that? Why would a hallucination be consistently negative? Why wouldn't it be random? Why wouldn't it be all over the place? I mean, these things, if they're running patterns, they can't be hallucinations that's all there is to it. There's a pattern to them. Something is holding them to that pattern. Something is proliferating that pattern. The psychiatry just doesn't want to hear it. Neither does psychology. Even though you know those traits, those aspects that I read you about, that's, you know, what they're doing is, you know, the voices are energetic entities. What they're doing is like if you've got a magnet, a big magnet, you can't see that magnetic field. You can't hear it, you can't feel it, you can't taste it, you can't touch it. For all practical purposes, for you, it doesn't exist. So you get a bottle of iron filings and you put it on top of that magnetic field. Now you can see the outline of the magnetic field. Those patterns that I was reading to you. And we only read maybe 10 of them. There's 23 or more. Those are the iron filings for these schizophrenic entities. That's the operational definition. That's what they are. That's how they operate. And what psychiatry is trying to do is like pouring Thorazine on top of a magnetic field and expecting it to dissipate that field. You know, it doesn't work. These are energetic entities. They are not physical. They don't respond to physical drugs. What they're doing is dumbing down the brain, so the whole body just becomes numb. You know, these people are just zombies and it's ridiculous. And that the number of different mental illnesses that they make up every year is. I mean, look at some of these mental illnesses. Mathematics disorder is one of the ones that are in. You don't get, you don't do mathematics, you don't like mathematics. You got a mathematics disorder. Probably one of the first ones that got the worst case of that. Caffeine intoxication disorder. You know, you drink too much caffeine. Oh, you've got caffeine intoxication disorder. Kids that are fighting with each other, they're diagnosed sibling relational disorder, sexual disorientation, disturbance or homosexuality. Another one, here's Florence syndrome. Being overwhelmed by the beauty, such as Florence, Italy. The symptoms are fainting and dizziness. The treatment is antidepressant drugs. Honest to God, this is garbage that these people are coming up with. Paris syndrome. Japanese patients experience this visiting Paris. Southern Bell syndrome, I think they had in there for a while. This is. You put 10 of them in a room and you give them a semi complex diagnosis. You're not going to get the same diagnosis from them. It's completely subjective.
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Top Lobster
You said that they're saying homosexuality is a disorder because they can't figure out why. What do you think about this, the whole transgender thing that's happening here? Because that has a very high suicide rate as well. And it's also one of these things where. Wouldn't be surprised if most of these people are having a. I mean, clearly you're having a second dialogue in your head. Right? Something is telling you.
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David Lee Corbeau
Right. And it's telling you that you're not good enough the way that you are. Right. And so it kind of matches that. That characteristic there as well.
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Jerry Marzinski
Yeah, but you look at that in the normal, average day person with their thought stream. How many of them in our normal thought stream are hearing stuff like that? You know, oh, you're not good enough. That thought stream that you're listening to all day long, every day, is telling you stuff that you already know. It's telling you bad stuff about yourself. But who. Who's the one listening? If you think that thought stream is you who's listening to it, it's not you.
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Top Lobster
Are you. The more you, like, feed into it, the larger you open this portal for maybe more things to come in. Or. Do you think some people are susceptible to. I guess we talked about the familial. The familial thing where they might be more susceptible to the same entities or similar ones that are affecting their family, or perhaps even psychologists that are around this. They're constantly physically around these other people. You might be, you know, just being spoken to or, you know, touched by these things. Maybe there's something about the six feet that they were doing during COVID Right. Like, everybody stays six feet away. Keep your demons on that side of the room. Your demons on that side of the room.
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Jerry Marzinski
Well, that was part of the separation thing. And. And the psychotic voices do the same thing, you know, Stay away from me. I'm going to lock myself in my room. I don't want anything to do with you. I don't want to talk to people. I don't want to do anything. So separation is one of the things that they're after.
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David Lee Corbeau
Dr. Marzinsk, we're coming to this hour and a half point. And I really do think it would be appropriate to discuss. We discussed Psalms 22. Right. And how these. These entities. Okay, 43, 23. Oh, 23. That's what I. My mistake. What have you found in your practice that actually works for. And I imagine it's not a cure. All right. You're not going to find a solution necessarily. But clearly the pharmaceutical industry has failed us miserably. Is there anything in your experience that will actually.
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Jerry Marzinski
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbeau
Really? Right. What is it that will alleviate these experiences for these folks?
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Jerry Marzinski
The first one we talked about earlier, they have to realize that these. What the psychiatric mafia is telling them is a lie, you know, and what the pharmaceutical industry is telling them is a lie. These voices are not hallucinations. They are entities. They're parasitic entities. They are putting bad thoughts in your head to create the negative lower vibration so they can feed off of you. You know, if you had a. If you had a leech on you, you wouldn't just sit there and look at it. You'd want to get rid of it. The voices get furious. When I was working in the emergency rooms, you know, the patients that I felt I could trust, I would tell them what the voices were, and that helped them immensely. Now then they realize it's not them, it's something outside of them. Because the voices, when the prisoners would ask them, who are you? What are you? The voice would say, we are you. They want you to believe that they are you, that they're part of your thought stream, that you're going nuts, and they are these, these. These voices you hear in your head are actually you. They're not. There's got to be a separation. That's got to be done first. The second thing to realize is that they're liars. They lie about everything. They don't tell the truth about hardly anything. You know, 98% of what they tell people are lies. So Sherry, my co author in this book, if you want to know more about this stuff, you know how we came to the conclusion, you can go get this off Amazon. You can get it off our website@jerrymarzinski.com. there's a lot more information there. But Sherry came up with the idea that, well, she cured herself this way is by every time the voices told her some bullcrap, she say, that's a lie. That's a lie. That's a lie. And 98% of the time it was a lie. Okay, so if you don't believe what they're saying, they can't get you. They have to get you to believe what they're saying. So those are two things that can be done.
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Top Lobster
Jerry, when you're.
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Jerry Marzinski
There's a lot more.
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Top Lobster
I know, I'm sorry, but when you're telling your patients this, like, how to. How. What's. Not just the success rate, but, like, I could imagine this could get really Tricky for these people, especially if you're at like a low energy level and you're telling something like, I'm on to you, there's probably gonna be some kind of a fight. And oh yeah, some people fight going on.
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Jerry Marzinski
There's. There's a fight going on all the time. Because at some level the person realizes that they're being pulled in a direction they don't want to go. That the only time there might not be a fight is the ones who believe. So did another study on what these people believe. The ones who believe what psychiatry is telling, that these are hallucinations. There's nothing they can do about them except take their toxic medications. They're the ones that are the worst off. They're the ones that are least likely to succeed. Succeed. Then there's a middle group that are going, well, I don't know what they are. I'm not sure what they are. You know, they haven't made the decision that they're hallucinations. You know, and then there's the third group that the group that has the most chance to succeed are the ones that realize that these voices are not them, they're not who they are, they're coming from somewhere else and that they're the enemy they need to be fought against. Because what they're trying to do is take more and more control over the person constantly. And if they can get you in prison in a negative environment like that, that's a hogs trough. The prisons are a hog trough for these things. You can feel it soon as you walk in the door. I worked 18 years in the psychology department of a major state prison. And you could feel it as soon as you walk in the gate. It's just like, oh, you know, the prisons don't cure anything. They're. They're graduate schools for criminals.
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David Lee Corbeau
At the end of the day, this is all a form of we're experiencing spiritual warfare. And if you're not aware that you're engaged in warfare, well, then you cannot mount a defense or an offense or anything. You're just victimized. You're just a sitting duck. Right. And so I could see that as being the most integral, the most important aspect of all this is to switch the mindset over from being a passive victim, you know, of your own psychology and into a much more proactive mode of you're actually being influenced by something that's not yourself. And I think that that is also it probably, if you can accept that comes with this really high level of vindication. Right. Because previously You've been told on every level that this is just you. There is no validity to this. This doesn't exist, actually, except for in your own mind. When I imagine for these people this feels very real. And so it's a level of self betrayal, right? To have to come to terms with the fact that this is just a hallucination that is incredibly demoralizing, you know, because then you now have to operate from a playing field of my perspective is incredibly faulty and unreliable. I cannot trust my own senses or myself. And it's isolating and it's demoralizing. And to turn and say, no, something is happening to you, this is very real. You're being influenced by something that does not have your best intentions and in fact is, you know, waging war against you has to give back an incredible amount of agency to these people.
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Jerry Marzinski
Yes. And it does. And they see I've had people contact me in, in my private practice that, you know, they, they said once I found out that it wasn't me, that was enough, I could handle it from there. Wow. You know, it's incredibly liberating for them to know that it's not them. Because we're taught from the time we're kids that every thought that comes into your mind belongs to you. And that's far from the truth. Emmanuel Swedenborg, Christian mystic, says none of your thoughts are yours. They come in either from heaven or they come in from hell. And you're the ones who chooses which ones you're going to pay attention to. And that the schizophrenic voices want to keep you tuned to the negative ones. You know, they increase your paranoia. They tell you people are after you, that, you know, they can, they have, some of them have incredible power. You know, they can do bad things. I could feel them when, when I was working in the ear. I couldn't see them, I couldn't hear them, but boy, I could feel. It was like this icky, electrical, cold, electrical energy. There was no other feeling like it. You know, when they were really mad at me, I could really, I could really feel. Was a little spooky, but yeah, they, you know, the first time I saw they were running these patterns real quick. So what I started doing was throwing monkey wrenches into the patterns when I was working in the, in the state prison because in the state hospital I couldn't experiment much because if they told the psychiatrist I was threatened. I had to keep a real low profile in the prison. I had a group of prisoners around me all the time who would Tell me in real time what the voices were saying so I could try all kinds of stuff with them. So I do all these experiments. I'd say, here, try this. Come back in a week and tell me what happened. That went on for years, you know, close to 18 years. And I'd find all these things that. That would mess up their patterns. And then one day, they started coming in and going, the voices don't like what you're doing. You know, they don't like. They don't like you. They don't want us coming here. They're telling me not to come here to blow it off, that you're crazy, you're stupid. Don't come here. And that. I found that interesting. One after another would start saying, the voices don't like you. They don't like what you're doing. Then one day, one guy turned around in the doorway and he said, you realize what you're doing is dangerous, don't you? Messing with the voices. And I just looked at him. I'd never thought about it. Well, they're stuck in their heads. They can't come out and get me. They're stuck in their heads. But I listened to it. I mean, I kept it in the back of my mind because it was so odd. I mean, he just turned around as he was about to leave. He looked me straight in the eye and he goes, you realize what you're doing is dangerous, don't you? And I just stared at him like, no, I hadn't considered that. So that same guy came back a few weeks later without a. Without a pass, knocked on my door in the psych department. He said, the voices want to talk to you. Now, that had never happened before. I'd never spoken to them directly. It was always. The patient would tell me, the voices are telling me this. This is what they're saying. And then I'd tell him, well, go tell them to stick their head in the toilet or whatever. I mean, it would go that way. They never spoke to me directly. And this guy. And I asked this guy said, they want to talk to me personally. He said, yeah, they want to talk to you personally. And that kind of took me aback. This is where my denial system completely collapsed. I mean, it was already in shambles because I had overwhelming evidence that these things were. They were entities. They weren't hallucinations. But I kept denying it. I didn't want to see it. I didn't want to hear it. I didn't want to. I didn't want to go there, you know, So I kept pushing it off and pushing it off and, oh, it's something with their subconscious. So I invited this guy in and we both sat down. I said, okay, what do they got to say? And these words came out of his mouth. You have no right to interfere with our way of life. Boom. My head just exploded. It was like, so they are entities. They aren't something. They. They are separate entities in this guy's. And this guy went, that wasn't me, that was them. You know, was it a threat?
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Top Lobster
Like, you have no right, or they just, like, were they complaining?
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David Lee Corbeau
Like they thought that would work?
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Jerry Marzinski
Well, it blew my mind. I mean, I shut down the office. I didn't see anybody the rest of that day. It was like my denial system had completely collapsed, you know, and it took me a few weeks to kind of, kind of shake that off. But I knew at that point that these were entities. They weren't hallucinations. They weren't some figment of the subconscious mind. They weren't some, you know, made up bullcrap that they were actual entities that. That could think and could speak and could reason to some degree. So that didn't stop me. You know, it just shook me up really bad. I mean, it shook me up. My denial says now I'm dealing with entities, but I didn't have any map, any cognitive map of where I was going or the territory I was entering into or what the roadmap was. It was just complete, unexplored territory. I had no idea where I was going, and there was nobody to talk to. I couldn't talk to anybody about any of this stuff. I had to keep it to myself. And there were times I felt like I was going crazy. So the next big thing that happened is this same guy. I was reading a book called the Voice of Knowledge by Miguel Ruiz. I mean, anybody who's interested in mental health ought to read this. And it was talking about these things being entity, parasitic entities. And I called this guy back in again. It was weeks later. And I started, I said, I want your opinion of what this guy had to say. And I had a paragraph kind of highlighted. And I did that all the time. I would bring stuff in. I would ask schizophrenics thousands of questions about everything. I mean, constantly I was asking questions, and, you know, they trusted me, and I was getting a lot of information.
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Top Lobster
It would have been a great podcast. You messed up, man. This is number one.
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Jerry Marzinski
Well, you know what? I do have transcripts. I have word to word transcripts. We can do that another time to actually take you there. But what happened this time was the same guy that, that warned me, you know, what you're doing is dangerous. I said, I'd like your opinion on this. This. This shaman is saying these things are parasitic entities. You know, I didn't, I didn't say that at the time, but I'd like your opinion of this. I started reading it. And when it got to the point where it, it actually spoke about these voices being parasitic entities, he. He got glazed over. He sat there just like a zombie, you know, I looked up at him and I'm like, what are you thinking? He's just staring at me. And then I heard this. This. This crackle rubbed behind my head. It was like. It sounded just like a electrical welding torch, you know, that kind of crackle. It was a loud electrical crackle. And it exploded right from behind my head. And I'm like, what? You know, like, what the hell's happening? And then I hear it jump to the wall on my right hand side and it's crackling loudly. And I'm staring at the wall where the noise is coming from. But I was afraid to take my, my vision off of this guy because I was thinking he's going to attack. So I pushed my chair against the wall just in case he does, so I could kick him off. Because all they had was female guards in the medical unit at that time. They would have been useless in a fight. So I'm switching my attention between him and this crackle and it's going up my right hand office wall. Like crack, crack, crack, crack, crack. I don't see anything, I don't smell anything. I just hear it and it's very loud and it's persisting. And I'm swinging my attention between him and this crackle. It goes up to the top of the ceiling and then starts cutting over the ceiling to the left, over to the left wall so I could see the patient. And I could see that I could hear the crackling at the same time. I couldn't see anything. But it went on for a good minute or two. I mean, it wasn't just brief. It just kept going on and on and on. And then it started coming down the left hand wall right for me because I was up against the left hand wall and it jumps into this Rubbermaid trash can to my left and it's crackling in that trash can. And I bend over and I look and there's nothing in there that the inmate porter had cleaned it the night before. It's completely empty. And this thing, whatever it is, is crackling in there, but I don't see anything. And I'm like, blown away. I'm like, what the frick is going on? And I'm like, blown away. And then this guy slowly gets up and he goes, I gotta leave. And I'm like, yes, go, Get. Get the hell out of here, man. Go. You know, like, you know, And I was just so relieved to see him leave the office and walk down the hall. So after he left, I searched the walls. I mean, is there any burn marks? Is there any evidence of what I just heard? Of course, I couldn't tell anybody about this, you know, there's nobody. They think I was a nutcase, you know. So after. After I checked the walls, I didn't see any burn marks or any evidence that anything had ever happened. I walked out into the hallway and I started looking at all the doctors and nurses offices. Nobody was in there. There was no cause for this, you know, And I'm just completely blown away. I mean, I didn't see anybody the rest of that day. I just closed my door and canceled all my appointments. And my mind was just warped. It took me three or four months to get enough courage to call this guy back, you know, and I eventually did. He looked good when he came through the door. I thought he'd be a wreck. I thought he'd be a total wreck, you know, And I told him that. I said, you look good. He goes, no, I've been doing what you told me. I haven't gotten rid of them, but I'm able to hold them off to a certain point degree, you know, so they haven't taken over, but I haven't gotten rid of them. And I said. I said, well, sit down. I want to ask you some questions. I said, you remember the last time you were in here? Did you hear that crackling noise? He goes, yeah, I heard it. He said, but I was surprised you did. And I said, you know, what the blazes was that? And he said, that's them. I said, them who? The voices. He goes, yeah, they were the voices. And I said, well, what in the dickens were they doing? He said, they were trying to scare you off. And I said, they did one hell of a job of it, you know. So, yeah, we talked a little bit more and, you know, that's the first time I've ever experienced anything like that. And I was shooken up because it's like I have no cognitive map of where this is going. Where's this going So I, he. I said, you look. You looked really strange when you left my office. I mean, you look like a zombie. I said, what were the voices telling you at the time you got up and left my office? He said, they were telling me to go get a shank and stick it in your gut. Holy shit. And I'm thinking, oh, he wouldn't do that. I've been working with him for six months. He wouldn't do anything like that. He's an okay guy, although he's a little small. Strange. He wouldn't do that. And I said, well, why didn't you do it? And he said, I couldn't find one and nobody would give me one. That warped my head. And I'm like going, where is this going? I don't have any map of this territory. I don't know what this is. It's like entering, you know. Must have been like when Columbus sailed for the New World or something. I mean, it was like, where am I going? And I couldn't talk to anybody about this. There was nobody to ask. There was nobody to talk to. Finally, maybe a few years later, my co author for the book, I'd known her for 10 years before I started telling her one day about a patient I was working with. And she goes, oh, I know all about that. I heard voices when I was a young woman. And I'm like, I can't believe it. So I started hammering her with all kinds of questions that only somebody who heard the voices would be able to answer. And bam, bam, bam. One after another, one after another, she answered those questions. There was no doubt that she had experienced the voices. And she's one of the most spiritual people I've ever known. Sherry Sweeney, my co author in the book An Amazing Journey into the Psychotic Mind. And then I had somebody I could finally talk to about the voices she understood, you know. So I couldn't talk to my wife because she'd go, oh, no. You know, the other. You shouldn't be poking into the heads of these psychotic killers. Don't do that. I'm just bad. So I couldn't talk to her. I couldn't talk to, you know, my psych friends because they didn't believe in that. They all believed that the voices were hallucinations. I had nobody to talk to for years. And there were times like. Like this where I felt I was actually going crazy. You know, it was very, very isolating. Very, very lonely place to be. Wow.
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Top Lobster
Well, Jerry, we're coming up on time here, and let me just say something to you. I mean, I'm obviously younger and way less educated than you. But I feel like all that craziness that you felt is going to be. Obviously it's going to be fully redeemed, if not already in your eyes. As we get to the times of like, you know, things will be as they were in the days of Noah. This sort of stuff that we're quickly coming upon this time where people are. I feel like people are waking up and also realizing this from. From your point of view. They're seeing what you saw 20, 30 years ago. And unfortunately, it wasn't your time back then. But I feel like it. Unfortunately, it might be our time. So thank you for like, coming on. And this is just a fat we. I feel like I could talk to you for another five hours. But it's. What a fascinating subject and like, what you're doing to kind of enlighten the people listening and just anyone who can hear what you're saying of what is going on today and how. How much is proliferated and where we're headed and perhaps a way to. To. To battle it. You know, I think that's the most important thing.
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Jerry Marzinski
Well, people can go to my website@jerrymarzinski.com then go to articles. There's three things that they can do themselves there. Okay. Now don't forget about mace. I mean, psychiatry should be replaced by this Mace energy method. I mean, it actually works and it works quickly. And it actually solves and gets rid of psychological problems. Again, there's. The website is www.masenergymethod.com about. There's mace therapists there, including myself.
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Top Lobster
This will be. I'm gonna. If you could send me the links, I think you might have already. I'm gonna put this in the. In the description to all the videos so people can just go and click. Because I know people are lazy typing stuff in. But this. It's important.
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Jerry Marzinski
Okay, I'll send it to you.
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Top Lobster
Thank you.
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Jerry Marzinski
I appreciate that. Okay, guys, thanks for. Thanks for having me on. Maybe someday in the future we can. We'll go through those transcripts so you could actually see what these conversations between what the system considered criminally insane patients and myself looked like. It's fascinating stuff I would be up to.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. Thank you again. And I'm gonna let you get out of here, man. David. Anywhere. Anything you want to plug before we go?
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David Lee Corbeau
No, just thank you for your time, Dr. Marzinski. This was genuinely a pleasure.
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Top Lobster
A dream come true.
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Jerry Marzinski
Okay, send me. Send me a link when you have it, guys.
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Top Lobster
All right, we'll do. Thank you. Have. Have a good day, guys. We'll see you soon. Peace out.
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David Lee Corbeau
The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is.
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Jerry Marzinski
A oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade it that what they see with their eyes is what. What there is to see because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening. And they have.