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TIME CAPSULE - 034: Have the Nephilim Stolen our Birthright? w/ Timothy Alberino
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Exploring Nephilim, Ancient Civilizations, and Alien Realms with Timothy Alberino In this episode, the hosts delve into a fascinating conversation with Timothy Alberino, an author, researcher, and expert on ancient civilizations, biblical studies, and...
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David Lee Corbel
What's up, guys? We're back again. I'm here with David Lee Corbel. He's going to run us through this ad read. Go ahead, Dave.
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Top Lobsta
What's going on, guys? Guys, before we start the show, don't forget to go to toplopsa.com click on the upper hand, left hand corner on the menu and go to the drop down that says Brand. You'll find Nephilim Death Squad merch under there where we've got all of our super dope designs. A couple of my personal favorites are the red heifer end times shirt. I think it's an appropriate shirt to be wearing lately. How cool would it be if they're sacrificing a red heifer on live TV and you're wearing the shirt? Or if you're one of the couples that listen to the show? Because we do have couples that listen to this show. There's a. There's an actual romantic element to Nephilim Death Squad. So maybe then the best shirt for you is Nephilim and chill. If you and the lady are watching the show together, what a better shirt than that? And if you're looking for a conversation starter, my personal choice would be the Ask me about the Nephilim shirt. If you really want to get into terribly awkward situations where you suddenly have to explain the sons and daughters of. Or the daughters of man having sex with fallen angels and giving birth to Nephilim, the. Then that's the shirt for you guys.
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David Lee Corbel
Don't forget this one here will actually be at the Sam Tripley show. I have a couple of these. So when you're out there to see us, I. I'm. I'm bringing some merch. Is going to be scattered like some stickers. Some of this stuff. I'm actually going to have some shepherd slings come through. Don't forget about.
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Top Lobsta
You're gonna have some. You're gonna have shepherd slings.
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David Lee Corbel
Listen, be professional. Join the telegram, guys. We'll see you in a minute. We're gonna start the show.
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Timothy Albarino
All right? We are being hypnotized by people like this. News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely. Oh, yeah, dude, this some Nephilim. It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying what happened.
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Top Lobsta
To the home of the brave?
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Timothy Albarino
These. They control us. Now. When no one's talking about how they made us fall, they slaves and everybody's just walking around heading the clouds and want to wake up to a dead in the grave. Finally too late. We need to be ready to raise up.
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Top Lobsta
Welcome to the end of day, everybody. Welcome back to Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven. That's top lobster. And today we are joined by Timothy Albarino. Mr. Albarino, can you tell the audience a little bit about what it is that you do and where they can find your work?
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Timothy Albarino
It's a very entertaining intro you have there. I'm an author, researcher and explorer, lecturer, filmmaker. And you can find my work on YouTube, I'm on social media, Twitter and Instagram. I have a website, timothy alvino.com I've made films, I've written a book called Birthright. So I'm kind of, I'm all over the place and doing a lot of different things, so. But I talk about, I research topics related to biblical studies, UFOs, giants, ancient civilizations, alternative theories and alternative history, etc.
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David Lee Corbel
You know, Tim, one of the questions I always have is how did you, how did, how does one get into this? I know how I kind of got into it. We kind of, we kind of get pushed in by like maybe circumstances in our lives where you start to notice for us the Christian religion more in a more intimate way, in a more real way. So I went down this rabbit hole. But how does someone like you become basically like a Indiana Jones? Where do you, where do you start off on your life going down this path?
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Timothy Albarino
Well, I dropped out of high school when I was 18. Dropped, dropped out, slash. Got kicked out of high school when I was 18 years old and I moved to the Amazon Basin, Peru. And that's kind of where things began for me. I lived in Peru for a decade, then I came back to the States and I was living in Cleveland, Ohio for a couple of years. That's where I was born and raised. Cleveland, Ohio. And I ended up interfacing with a gentleman named Steve Quayle, who's also in this Nephilim space, you might say. And I ended up moving out to Bozeman, Montana to work with Steve. We created a company called Gen6 Productions and we began to produce some documentary films and did some other things, conferences and, and the like. And so that's kind of what launched me, I would say, in a professional manner. I've always been interested in these kinds of topics. But it became kind of a career for me when I moved out to Bozeman and began to work with Steve Quayle.
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David Lee Corbel
Interesting. You know, over the weekend, I was. I was on Netflix and I kind of just put on Noah. Never seen it before with, with Russell Crowe. And it's. I'm just glad that there's people like you. We've got like, La Marzulli and, you know, other people, Gary Wayne, who's writing these books that are telling the story much closer to what actually happened than, you know, the Hollywood version of it where it's. I watched a couple minutes and it seems like they're trying to depict the, the watchers or the fallen and in a good light. It's almost like, you know, like the classic inversion of what the truth would be. And I turned it off. But, yeah, thank you for, for covering this stuff and, you know, shedding some knowledge on. On us because we, we have no idea what we're doing here.
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Timothy Albarino
It was a wasted opportunity. They had a. They had. They had an opportunity to depict. Depict the anti diluvian world in a. In a more realistic way and to tell the story as it is written in Genesis 6 and book of Enoch and other extra biblical texts. And they chose to do something completely fantasy, Fantasy, fanciful. Excuse me. And it was a missed opportunity and it ended up being a, you know, very lackluster film.
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David Lee Corbel
Yes, I think that I wouldn't. People wouldn't call it a missed opportunity. So, yeah, it's. I feel like that is letting whoever is in charge of these things off the hook. And in a way also, as I was listening to some of your previous interviews recently, where we're talking about the government, if we just kind of keep letting them off the hook as if, like, oh, you know, they're just kind of. They're just trying to suppress as much as they can. To me, it doesn't seem that way as a conspiracy theory.
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Top Lobsta
It's almost like damage control.
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David Lee Corbel
It's damage control. They know that. They know what the story is. Clearly they've read it and they, and they poured a pretty large budget into it and decided to tell something that wasn't the story, in my opinion, is what it seems like. Because why would you avoid this? It's the greatest story ever told. Why would I change it?
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Timothy Albarino
Well, I, I don't know that I would go down the conspiratorial route with the Noah story. I think they make. I mean, anyone who's been paying attention for the last five years, 10 years to Hollywood, they've been making really bad decisions about a lot of stories and many Stories that don't have anything to do with the biblical narrative. There's just a lack of creativity. And you have, you always, they always want to diverge from these, from the original narrative and try and create something unique and different. And in this case, you're right. They, they abandoned one of the most interesting, interesting stories ever told for a ridiculous concoction that was, that was frankly boring.
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Top Lobsta
You touched on it for a second there, this idea that they had an opportunity to pant the, paint this era in time in a much more fascinating way. And when people think of the story of Noah's ark, it's kind of like from, from the outside looking in, if you're not really paying attention, I would say the general consensus is what, like, man was corrupt, and so God chose, you know, one man in particular to save a bunch of animals, get them on an ark, and then he punished the world for man's corruption. But there's a lot more going on there. There's a lot more detail and it's a lot more interesting. And I think that we've kind of had these stories, maybe whitewashed isn't the best term, but watered down. Watered down for sure. They're, they're much less potent than they actually are. If you're paying attention, what is your contention about maybe what it looked like in the days of Noah?
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Timothy Albarino
Well, you know, the, the story of Noah's very, very old story. It's, it was present in ancient Mesopotamia, of course, that I believe, and depending on who you talk to, most scholars would say that the biblical account of Noah is a derivation of the more ancient Mesopotamian account. I would actually take the opposite view. I think that the Mesopotamian count is a derivation from the original account, which comes from the antediluvian world and was passed down through no. And his sons, and then, and then became corrupted during the rise of Sumer in Acadia. But it, it's interesting because you know that, that, that Noah figure in the Mesopotamian account is Utnapishtim. And you find this Noah character all over the world in many different mythologies of variegated cultures across the globe. And, and, but it's always the same kind of story. There's a, there's a global cataclysm, there's a cat, there's a terrible cataclysm, and then there's a remnant of, of mankind that survives and, and has to repopulate the Earth. It's amazing. There are, there are hundreds and hundreds of iterations of the Noah story. I subscribe to the biblical narrative. And as I said, as I alluded to, I believe that the, the Genesis account is, is the original narrative. Whether or not the book of Genesis was penned before or after the Mesopotamian accounts is irrelevant. The oral tradition, I believe, of Noah and his sons that we have in the, in the Genesis account is the original story. So I'm sorry, I lost the rest, the rest of your question there.
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Top Lobsta
This actually does bring something to mind where it's like, do you think that this is one man whose name is changed throughout these stories? An event that took place one time that has changed throughout all these different cultures? Or we just had Vicki Joy Anderson, who is an author who works with Elle Marzulli. She was just on the show the other day, and she said something that I thought was really interesting. It was this idea that the way that God sent the symbol of the rainbow and promised not to flood the world again, the way that she interpreted it and she said it was just something that she. She was kind of kicking around. This concept of it struck her as, you wouldn't flood the world once and then just say, hey, hey, I'll never do it again. It was almost as if, like, this is something that had happened. Do you think that there's room for Noah almost being an archetype? Like, this may have happened several times, and maybe for some reason there is just this formula almost where God picks a man, has the same thing happen again, and then this time is like. And like I said, this isn't something that she was putting a lot of stock into. It was just an interesting thing. And now that I'm hearing you say it, it's like, well, maybe there's room for. This is a multiple occurrence, which is why it echoes through so many different cultures. And, and maybe it's not necessarily the same man with different names from different cultures, but actually different instances, different moments in time where the same thing happened again. Do you think there's any room for that?
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Timothy Albarino
I would say that all of these various stories around the world have one original source. But I would also concede that I do believe that the Earth had been catastrophically destroyed previous. Previous to the flood of Noah and indeed from, in my estimation, previous to the creation of mankind. So I believe in a pre Adamic cataclysm that rocked the Earth, that something happened. Something else is going on here before the creation of mankind and the inception of mankind, and that it was even. It was, it was an even greater cataclysm in that context. So I do subscribe to multiple cataclysms going back in, into the past. I don't believe that the Flood of no was the first. Certainly in my mind there was a pre Adamic cataclysm and there's lots of reasons why I believe that and I detail why I believe that.
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David Lee Corbel
My book Birthright well, they say, I don't know, I don't know the exact number, but I think they attribute 4,000 or some odd years to when Adam would have been around. What's the time frame on that?
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Timothy Albarino
You mean from Adam to the flood?
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David Lee Corbel
From Adam to now?
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Timothy Albarino
Oh, well, this is controversial because most Christians are under the impression that when you go to the Genesis 5 genealogy which lists the genealogy of the pre flood, pre flood patriarchs beginning with no one, ending rather beginning with Adam and ending with Noah and his sons, most Christians will read this genealogy as if it is a, as if it's linear, if it's, if it's written in a linear fashion. And it, there's, there's a, there's a lot of problems with that, that rendering of the text. First of all, the first problem that we have to deal with is that we have the, the Masoretic text. Today we are all reading the Masoretic text. And the Masoretic, the Masorites, they for some reason decided to subtract 100 years off of each of the lifespans of those patriarchs from Adam to Noah, which significantly reduced that period of time from Adam to Noah by some 1500, 1200 years or so. Well, the, the, we know that the Masorites sort of circumcised the lifespans of the patriarchs because in the Septuagint, in the Septuagint you have, which I think is the original rendering, you have 100 additional years under the, under the lives of each one of those patriarchs. Why the Masorites would have done it, who knows? They had their own, they had their own theological positions that they were wanting to reinforce. There were certain theological topics and themes that they wanted to suppress. And so that's the, the first problem that we run into when we try and make a linear calculation from Adam to Noah. The second problem is that clearly I think what we have in that genealogy is what's, what's referred to as telescoping. And, and telescoping means that, that, you know, you imagine a telescope and, and that telescope will fold down into, into a smaller artifact. And so basically what scholars mean by telescoping is rather than, rather than account for all of the individuals in this family line, they remove certain numbers of them so that they can fit the genealogy in a nice neat number. And this was, this was the, Reaching a particular numerical value was very important to ancient writers, especially the writers of, of the Hebrew, Hebrew, Old Testament numerology was exceedingly important. It, the number itself was part of the message, it was a part of the communication. And so you find this, this is a known fact. Scholars know that you find this phenomenon of telescoping in other genealogies in the Bible. It's, it's, this isn't speculation. This is happening. The writers, the, the Hebrew writers would routinely engage in this sort of thing, you know, remove certain people from a genealogy in order to, in order to reach a particular number. Again, because this numerology was very important to them. So I think we, we have some telescoping going on in the account of, in the genealogy of the pre flood patriarchs. There were probably more where we assume that that genealogy represents the father to the firstborn son and so on all the way down through the line, the genealogical record. But that I think is a, it's an assumption at best. And I think that in reality we're probably looking at a whole lot longer period of time than Christians are accustomed to accounting for or to contemplating in regard to the antediluvian world, from the creation of Adam to the flood of Noah. I would say thousands of years transpired, perhaps many thousands of years. I think that the flood of Noah probably took place sometime around 10,000 BC. Now this is a, a modification to my own view, even the view I put forward in my book Birthright. I have, since the publishing of that book, modified my view, altered my view based on new information that I was only slightly aware of at the time. And there was an event that took place. There was clearly some sort of a cataclysm that happened around 10,000 BC. Indeed, when you look at the megaliths all around the world, so many of them seem to point to that very period of time based on their alignments with celestial phenomena. And this is of course, the field of archaeoastronomy. Looking at an archaeological ruin and then using the timepiece, that celestial timepiece, to figure out when this, this, let's say, megalithic site aligned with a particular sign, zodiacal sign or a particular constellation. And, and so many same, the same.
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Top Lobsta
Thing that they used for the Sphinx facing the constellation of Leo. Yes, that would be precisely.
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Timothy Albarino
Okay, Precisely. This works because of axial procession, because the earth is tilted and, and wobbles. And so this this was known to the ancients. And they all use the same, they all base, they all use the same timepiece and that. We call that the zodiac. And the Hebrews called that the Matsaroth. And it's the same thing. It's the same signs. It's the, the, the zodiac is of course, divided into 12 houses and each house is represented by a different sign. And this is how the ages were measured and, and by many, many different cultures, including.
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Top Lobsta
This may be going in a different direction, but it's something that I was actually thinking about very recently. So it's interesting that we're here talking about it, but there was a time when I came to understand that a 13th Zodiac had been introduced and it was Ophiuchus, a man struggling with a serpent and, or wrestling with a serpent. And then that kind of just fell out of the, the kind of, you know, zeitgeist of awareness. I wonder if, if you know anything about that or how that applies, because there was this, I think around maybe 2000 and 2013, 2014, suddenly there was the introduction of this 13th constellation. For a brief time that never seemed to really stick around or be anything of any significance. But I do remember it was called Ophiuchus. And I do remember it was a man wrestling with a serpent.
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Timothy Albarino
I don't recall that. I've only been aware of 12. And this is, this certainly understand the ancient understanding is 12. There's 12 ages and those ages correspond to the, what's called a great year, which is the, the completing the, the full wobble of the Earth axial procession. And again, all the ancients knew this. So I don't know. Not sure how we got onto Zodiac.
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Top Lobsta
That was. That's all right. That might have just been me. If we were already lost in the woods, I made sure to derail us.
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Timothy Albarino
We were talking about the Sphinx being aligned to the Leo and, and that, you know, that was sometime around 10,000 BC. And not only the Sphinx in, in Egypt, but also in Peru. I believe that the, that the city of Cusco, for example, and this, this is, was confirmed through the research of my, my friend and colleague Andre Sadas, who's an archaeoastronomer who figured out that the city of Cusco was founded in 10,000 BC based on the alignment of the megaliths. I think there, I think that 10,000 BC is probably when that the cataclysm occurred. So you're looking at some 12,000 years ago, which of course aligns with the younger Dryas impact hypothesis that Graham Hancock has made famous and Randall Carlson and the younger Dries impact Hypothesis posits that 12, 000 years ago around 10000 BC there was an earth shattering cataclysm and that that resulted from a, an, an asteroid impact on the North American ice sheets, the Laurentide ice sheet to be specific and perhaps other, other locations in North America was in fact not just one impact but a series of impacts because there was a large asteroid that broke up, that broke up and, and broke up in orbit and fragments of it bombarded the Earth and that, that was, that precipitated this, this cataclysm that, that annihilated humanity, that destroyed much of the life on Earth megafauna, certainly the megaphone extinction and, and, and almost entirely eradicated the human species. I think that, that, that is the cataclysm the Noahic Flood. I believe that that is the cataclysm that all of these other ancient civilizations refer to and that it, and that it in fact did happen sometime around 10,000 BC. So I would push the flood of Noah back to 10,000 BC and again the only contention that Christians can, can make in regard to this, this time frame is, but the Genesis 5 genealogy only allows for however many years it is. I don't remember off top of my head basically to 3300 BC thereabouts would have been the flood of no. According to that calculation. And it's just, it's, it's very, it's not a, it's a tenuous position because again the Masoretic text for some reason subtracted 100 years off of the lifespans of the patriarch. So you have to start there. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna fall back to the Septuagint before I'm gonna. The Septuagint as I said, has 100 additional years on the lifespans of those patriarchs. And I'm, I'm going to put more confidence in the, in the reckoning of the Septuagint than in the Masoretic text. So that's again the first problem and the second problem is this issue of telescoping. So it's not as concrete as most Christians think it is. It's just not at all, it's completely up for debate. And, and again you have to take into account the, the megaliths are I think the remnant. They're, the, they're, it's all that's left from the antediluvian world. That's all that could have survived of These massive megalithic foundations. And so you have to take into account the, the archaeo. Astronomical alignments of these megaliths, because they're, they're very precisely aligned. You can't just discount that data because, you know, your mass, your Masoretic Bible says there were this many years from Noah to, from Adam to Noah. No, you have to take the compendium of evidence and, and use the correct measurements. And the correct measurement of time is the zodiacal ages. So, so anyway, 10,000 BC, that's when I would, I would push the flood back. And this is. If this is an amendment to the way I used to think years ago. I've, I've, as I said, since I published my book, I've, I've amended this position.
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David Lee Corbel
Well, you know, good on you, man. Because a lot of what, A lot of what is wrong with humanity now, or at least current, the current civilization is people kind of pick a side and then they get married to it. Can't let that die. So good on you for having, you know, continuing your research and, and changing your mind. I wanted to ask, so after this flood, how do these guys survive? Because I know that there's, there's accounts, there's definitely one that I, I'm pretty sure is verifiable. We're talking about the, the giant from Afghanistan. This is just one. But we know that they are still Nephilim around.
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Timothy Albarino
You know, this is an ongoing debate. How did the Nephilim survive the flood? And the older I get, the more irrelevant it seems. Depends on how you view the flood. First of all, you. There's a lot of good scholarship in regard to the flood of Noah not being.
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Top Lobsta
Global.
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Timothy Albarino
And what I mean by global is not every single mountain on planet Earth was submerged in water. There are several there. I would. There. There are basically three positions. On the flood of Noah. You have what, what would might be considered the traditional position, at least the traditional Protestant position, which would be that the flood of Noah was global and that every mountain peak was covered in water all over the Earth. That would be the traditional view. Then I would say that another view would be a local flood theory in which the Levant, the Fertile Crescent, was flooded, and it was a local phenomenon, a local cataclysm. And that was the known world to the people at the time. And so that's, you know, that's the local flood hypothesis. And then there's one that I think is kind of in between. And this is the one that I subscribe to, which is a global cataclysm hypothesis. In other words, the entire Earth was rocked by cataclysm. Every continent was affected by this cataclysm and it had dire effects all over the Earth. Not just, not just in in regard to flooding by the way. If indeed we're talking about a an asteroid impact or a series of asteroid impacts on the ice sheets, in, on the North American ice sheets, then obviously you would have flooding for sure. But you would also have, you would also have raging forest fires everywhere all over the Earth as the fragments, the, the molten hot fragments of the impacts are discharged for for miles, perhaps even thousands of miles and landing in force and setting those force ablaze. So you would have mass burning of the, of the forests on Earth, all over the Earth. And you would also obviously have floods, you would have earthquakes, you would have. There would be, there would be the fallout would be considerable and it would manifest in many different ways. Not just flooding and it would affect the whole Earth. These the, the temperature and what's the word I'm looking for here? Saltiness, salinity of the oceans would would be altered. The, the, it would probably have launched the Earth into an, something like a nuclear winter. Something approximating a nuclear winter. So you would have a, you would have this, you would have the, the, the massive forest fires and, and you would have a super heating of the atmosphere around the impact area. So you would have like things would be vaporized. But then right after all of this you would. The Earth would be plunged into a deep freeze because of all of the debris that's thrown up into the atmosphere, blocking the sun and creating, creating a, a kind of nuclear winter. So it would have been absolutely devastating. The entire globe would have been devastated by the cataclysm. So I subscribe to this view that the entire world was affected by the cataclysm. Civilization, especially in in an ancient context was founded. The great cities were usually founded on the banks of rivers or or on the, or in the coastal areas. And these are precisely the areas that would have been submerged. There would have been, you know, mile high tidal waves generated from these impacts and from the, all of that ice. The melt of the ice water rather the the freshwater melt from the, from the glaciers. You would have had. You would have had just devastating flooding. If if you lived anywhere near the sea, your city would be underwater. But if you're more inland, you would have perhaps been more affected by the, the, the wildfires and the earthquake.
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David Lee Corbel
Economic. I mean to think that there wasn't you know, it's kind of some sort of Advanced economics and trade going on, agriculture going on back then, all that stuff is even today, if that's slightly, slightly disrupted, you're looking at a, you know, mass deaths. They I, they were talking about if the Internet goes down, people are going to die in problem. It's, you know, it's just the tiniest little, you know, push of a button.
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Timothy Albarino
That's right.
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Top Lobsta
It's still in our nature.
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Timothy Albarino
Right.
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Top Lobsta
We're doing the same thing. All of our cities are still coastal. You know what I mean? It's like all we are is one oceanic cataclysm away from destroying these coastal cities.
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Timothy Albarino
And what happens when the animals die because you have a mass, you have a mass die off of the fauna and you're talking about, you're talking about a, A, an extinction level event that's unfolding in the world and then you know, all of the repercussions. You, it would be very, very difficult to survive, very difficult to survive under those circumstances. So again, I subscribe to that view which is kind of in the middle of the local flood and the global flood. And people of course will raise contentions immediately and say, doesn't the Bible say every mountain was underwater and so on and so forth and the waters covered the whole earth? The answer is yes and no. There are again the, the scholarship is when, if you read the papers on the, on the, on the, on the extension, the extent of the flood, you're going to find various opinions by many different scholars based on the terminology. So no, it's not, it's not black and forth. It's not black and white as people suppose. Just like the genealogy, the pre flood patriarchal genealogy. You know, we want, for some reason we, we so many Christians and I'm a Christian, we have this need for things to be, for things to be simplified and, and concrete black and white and, and we for some reason people need it to be that way. But the, but the reality is it's not, it's not so many things that we think are concrete are not in regard to the Old Testament. And again there's a lot of scholarship on the flood of Noah and there's a lot of different positions or at least a few different positions with a lot of commentary and you could, if you take the text and I'm not a scholar, I'm not an ancient language expert but if you, but I've read the work by, I've read a lot of the scholarly articles and you could we have a particular rendering in, in our Bibles in regard to the Flood of Noah. But you could easily derive a different rendering and based on the, based on the way the words that are used in Hebrew and Aramaic and so forth. So it's, it's just not as simple as people think. So that's a very long answer to your original question, which was how could have, let's say the Nephilim survived? Well, there's, there's a variety of answers, and it depends on, it depends on where you fall in, in terms of the extent of the flood. If you believe that the flood of Noah was in fact global and every mountain was underwater, Mount Everest was underwater. If that's, if that's what you believe, you have to, you have to account for some things if that's what you believe. Like how, how did the, how did the aquatic life survive? It wasn't on the ark. And if you take salt, if you take creatures who, who are equipped to live in the ocean in that saltwater environment, and you suddenly dilute that saltwater environment, those creatures are going to die. So you have to account for the oceanic life, the aquatic life surviving in those circumstances. And the ecosystem is, is intricately connected. You know, you can't have one ecosystem survive and all the other ones collapse.
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David Lee Corbel
So might be, I might be just speaking out of my, my ass here, but what's the salinity like? Salinity like in the ocean as you grow deeper, because when you start to get to, like, deep sea fishing, you're pulling stuff up that looks historic. I mean, ancient.
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Timothy Albarino
I don't know.
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Top Lobsta
Prehistoric.
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Timothy Albarino
Yeah, I don't know. I just know that the ecosystem is very delicate. It's very delicate. It cannot, you know, you can destroy an ecosystem by just modifying a few factors. You can devastate an ecosystem. It's very delicate. So. And if you're talking about a global flood where every square inch of the ground is covered with water, there's, it's just, there's no way. I mean, what are these sea creatures really going to survive on when the ecosystem on land has collapsed, is gone? It's just, it's really untenable if you think about it. So, so again, if you subscribe to this notion that every single mountain, every square inch of planet Earth was underwater, then you really only left with a couple of options in regard to how the Nephilim. We know how Noah and his family made it through the flood. They were divinely, providentially protected. They were, they were carried through the flood, and we know that. But what about the nephilim? Well, you, you, you you have to subscribe to really one of two scenarios. One is that there was another incursion which is called the second incursion, that the, that the what happened in Genesis 6, at Genesis 6 affair reoccurred. It happened again. I have a problem with that because the consequence was so severe, the punishment was so severe after the first incident that it's hard to imagine a group of watchers getting together and repeating it right away. It just was so severe and the judgment against the Watchers was, was evident. It was seen by the rest of the heavenly host. So it's very difficult for me to imagine that just, just happened again. And, and there is no account of a second incursion. Why would there be such a detailed account of the first one but not the second one? Where's the second incursion? Show me in any biblical or extra biblical text, where's the second incursion? It's just not there. It's non existent. So I don't know.
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David Lee Corbel
Quick question. So after the Watchers are judged and some are locked up, how many are locked up? How many are.
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Timothy Albarino
There's 200 watchers and they're all condemned and imprisoned. All of them. Even Lucifer, well he wasn't a part of those Watchers. That's a different scenario. So returning to this, to finish this thought answer, to finish the, answering your previous question. So there's the second incursion and then the other, the other hypothesis, if you subscribe to every square inch of the Earth being underwater, is that the genetic markers of the giants of the Nephilim made it through the flood via the genomes of Noah's sons, or more specifically Noah's son's wives, and even more specifically Ham and, and his wife and, and their offspring. So okay, that's a possibility. I, I, that is plausible certainly. But if you subscribe to my position, a local flood, or to my position, which would be a global cataclysm.
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Top Lobsta
Then.
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Timothy Albarino
The answer is actually even, even simpler. There were places on Earth that were less affected, that were more survivor survivable. Although nearly all of humanity was destroyed, indeed nearly all of the animals. There might have been pockets, places on Earth where the Nephilim, the offspring of the Watchers and, and, and other kinds of creatures, might have been able to survive that where the ecosystem was still intact and it, and it, it was much less devastated by the cataclysm. So that's a very simple answer. And, and again, everyone's going to want to go back to the Masoretic text and say, but it says, you know, they're gonna, in, they're going to say, it says in, you know, this verse and this verse that everything that had breath and every mountain. And I'm just telling everyone right now that it's not as cut and dry as you think. You see, I'm not a scholar. I'm assuming you guys are not scholars. We are casual Bible readers.
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David Lee Corbel
How could you tell?
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Timothy Albarino
We are casual Bible readers and including myself, but we have access to scholarship, to the individuals whose careers are to, to learn these dead languages and understand the different meanings and potential meanings of things and, and to avail ourselves of their work. And when you do that, you realize it's just as I said, not as cut and dry as you think there is. There's a lot of possibility, there's a lot of flexibility in these stories. Now lest anyone accuse me of not believing in the Bible, I absolutely subscribe to the biblical narrative and I don't think there's any leeway as it pertains to the Gospel of Christ that is cut and dry. So don't think that I'm extending this flexibility in the, the biblical flood narrative or the genealogy of, of the pre flood patriarchs to the Gospel of Christ. Certainly not. That's a completely different situation for many reasons. So. And you asked the question that I don't recall, you had another question. Oh, that's right. And that's a good question because there are some confusion here and people might be wondering where I'm deriving some of my understanding of this material from the, everyone knows that the, the Genesis 6 account is, is like two sentences, right? The Genesis account is not the full account obviously of the pre flood world. There was one that precedes it from which the Genesis account is, is drawing. And that's clear. That's evident for many reasons. And I believe that among other manuscripts, the Book of Enoch I think is central here to understanding the first Enoch, specifically the reality and the historic, the historicity of the antediluvian world. And so when you talk about the watchers and how many watchers were there, you, you can't reference anything in the biblical text. You have to go to the Book of Enoch.
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David Lee Corbel
Well, they say a third person, but that could be. Who knows?
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Timothy Albarino
Well, the biblical text, you know, it makes this reference to a third of the angels. There's a lot of contention around this. Some people think that that's a future thing. So that's, that's a separate, that's a separate issue. When you talk specifically about Genesis 6 and the Watchers you're referencing specifically 200 Watchers who descended to the earth in the days of Jared 200. And all 200 of those watchers are, are bound in chains and darkness, as Peter and Jude allude to, and, and will be in this condition until the Great Judgment. And this is another misconception here. There is no indication either in the biblical text, and certainly not in the Book of Enoch, that any of these watchers are going to be released at the end of the age. They are. They are bound until the, as the Book of Enoch puts it, are bound until the age is fully consummated, until the Great Judgment. So there is no release of the watchers. Those 200 watchers are bound in Tartarus, as Peter says. So, and in regard to the, in regard to this, this character that we in the west call Satan, indeed the New Testament also references him as Satan. This character is not necessarily directly involved in the sin of the watchers. Now, he may be indirectly involved and there. But we would have to speculate about that. He may be indirectly involved. And there is some, some indication in First Enoch that that may be the case, but that's also questionable for other reasons.
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David Lee Corbel
Does that mean. Sorry to interrupt, but does that mean that he, he didn't, he didn't take part in, in bearing offspring with the, with the, the men, the daughters of men? Is that what you're saying?
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Timothy Albarino
No, he did not. Unless. Unless you want Semjaza slash Azazel with Satan. And, and some, some scholars do. I personally do not. But you'll find scholars who will say that Simjaza or Azazel are in fact Satan. That's, that, that's this Satanic figure that we find in the New Testament. I do not believe that. There's several reasons why I don't believe that. But it's important to understand because now we're delving into the Book of Enoch from which the, the story of the Watchers is derived. Primarily, you. There's. It's a. It. The narrative in First Enoch is a composite. It's very clearly a composite narrative. It's not one narrative. There were perhaps a handful of oral traditions or manuscripts that were combined together. And I'm not even talking about second and Third Enoch. That's completely different topic. I'm just talking about within 1st Enoch. And this becomes evident when you realize that as you're reading through First Enoch, sometimes Semjaza or he has different renderings of his name based on which edition you're reading the Book of Enoch, sometimes Simjaza is depicted as the or semi Jazza, sometimes his name is rendered, is depicted as the ringleader, and sometimes Azazel, this other Watcher, as Azel. And then also there's the possibility that these are distinct figures. And I think they are. I don't think they're the same person. I think these are two distinct Watchers, Sanjaz and Azazel. And I don't think either of them are this, this figure of Satan that we have in the New Testament. I think that he's the original rebel. His defection from the kingdom happened long before the episode with the Watchers. In fact, you know, he is that serpent of old, the dragon and the devil who was in Eden. And, and so he was a rebel and a defector before the Watchers because he was in Eden, the garden of God. So there is. And I would, I would argue that there was already a group of defected, let's call them defected sons of God, apostate sons of God inhabiting the earth before the advent of the Watchers. In other words, these 200 watchers, this was a completely separate episode of defection, of rebellion. And so, you know, sometimes all of these different bad actors in the biblical narrative are conflated, but I think that we can, we can see different episodes and different characters involved. However, I will say that I do believe that whereas this figure we call Satan was not directly involved in the sin of the Watchers, I do think he was indirectly involved. In other words, he may have been involved in tempting the Watchers, convincing them to do what they did, but he did not himself copulate with a human female and, and thereby pro. Generate human hybrid offspring. That is evident because all of the Watchers, Simjazelle and the rest of them were all condemned. They were all bound in chains and, and are awaiting the day, the day of judgment, the final judgment. And if that were the case, if, if Satan were involved in that group, then he would also be bound in chains. And, and that does not correlate to certainly the New Testament where we read that Satan goes around like a roaring lion seeking who he might devour, right? This idea that the devil is still very much active in the world and, and is tempting. And I mean, he's with Jesus in the desert, in the wilderness, tempting the Son of God. So he's clearly not in chains, in Tartarus, in Hades and, you know, the underworld, what have you. So, but that's an important clarification, I.
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David Lee Corbel
Think, and it makes, you know, it actually makes a lot of sense, because there's rules, there are spiritual rules that these beings must play by. Even, even the devil himself, you read the book of Job. It's constantly, he's constantly getting consent, can I do this, can I then do that? And it's like, yeah, but he's asking first. He's not just doing so. He's, he's, he's a, you know, he's a clever fellow and. Yeah. Wow, that's a, that's actually a very interesting way to look at it. He's the worst, he's not the worst of the, of these fallen angels. He's just.
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Timothy Albarino
Well, he might be, but he's not, he wasn't condemned with the Watchers. He wasn't involved in their episode directly. And, and, and in regard to the, the account in Job, you know, there's, again, going back to the scholarly material, there is contention there as well in regard to who that figure is, if that is in fact Satan with a capital A S or a Satan, because Satan is not a. It does not really become a proper title until the New Testament. In the Old Testament there are multiple Satans. And so it's, it's, it's, it's all very nebulous in the Old Testament. So. But I do believe that it's clear, it's clear if you read in the biblical narrative that this original rebel, Satan with a capital S is permitted to tempt. That that is his role. That is, you may, you might consider it to be his, his obligation at this point that he is. That he is permitted to tempt. And, and again, he, he clearly does so with, with Jesus and he wanted to sift Peter, if you recall. So that's an, that's an ongoing function of, of the Devil with a capital D. Satan with a capital S. And I keep saying that because those who are familiar with some of the scholarship in the Old Testament will understand that, that there are devils and Satans. That's not always referencing just one particular individual.
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Top Lobsta
Satan being more of a descriptive. That means the, the adversary.
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David Lee Corbel
Somebody said Satan, Christ, Job, titles and angels as well. Angel means messenger. It's kind of what you're doing, right?
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Timothy Albarino
The, the, the, the, the word Satan means adversary and a couple of other words as well that, that you, you might use. But adversary is basically what it boils down to. So, and again, in the New Testament we have the identification of like a capital S, Satan, who's the chief of the rebels, the angelic rebels. And that certainly is true. And I make a very strong case for that in my book Birthright, and, and I subscribe to that notion. I think he is the, the, the, the principal rebel and, and perhaps even the first, probably the first. And, and he is involved in this narrative very, very intimately. In fact, I would say there again a lot of contention around this statement as well. But I would say that it is that individual, that very individual, the dragon, who I, I, I use the dragon moniker in my book more than any other. That, that this capital S, Satan figure was in fact the beguiler of Eve in Eden. He was the serpent. It's not a talking snake. I think we all understand that at this point. It was him. And, and he was permitted to do that for very particular reasons. But I would also say that Eden is largely, the Eden story is largely an allegory. So anyway.
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Top Lobsta
I, I wanted to touch on something I've heard you discuss before, and I always wanted the opportunity to hear you elaborate if there was any elaboration to be made. But I believe it was actually on the podcast Blurry Creatures, which is a tremendous show. Highly recommend everybody go check out those guys. You were discussing your conversations with people in Peru and you said that the government of Peru had become very touch and go with visitors of your nature because of the series Ancient Aliens. Basically they had become upset with this idea that you or any other potential visitor might be there to try to paint some, some picture that would be, you know, adapted to a History Channel series. And because of this, you, you, you found some resistance in trying to do a lot of the things that you set out to do while you were there. And you mentioned that the narrative you will get from the government of Peru on how their megalithic structures were made would be one thing, but that if you asked someone who was more local and more native in their, in, I suppose, their family's genealogy, what the origin of these megalithic structures would have been. They would tell you that a race of giants built the megalithic structures, but who at some point became cannibalistic in nature and then were punished by being wiped out with a series of, or a flood water. And I wonder if, I'm sure I butchered that to some degree. If you could add some clarification to that. The nature of these giants, who they were in relation to the Peruvian people, just maybe a little bit more fleshing out of what it is that they believe the origins of their megalithic structures truly were.
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Timothy Albarino
Okay, yes, the Ministry of Culture in Peru is very irritated with the Ancient Aliens narrative. I don't really subscribe to the ancient aliens narrative. Although I always say that the premise of the theory is true, but that's about it. The. The tendency in Peru among archaeologists and historians is to attribute many of the most, in fact, of the megaliths that you find throughout that land in the Andes to the Inca, that they were these master masons, that the Inca built the megaliths. And whether it be Sacsaywaman in Cusco, Ojante, Tambo, or Machu Picchu, the foundations of Machu Picchu are indeed megalithic. So the conventional narrative is that the Inca built all of this. And it's true that if the guides and the archaeologists and the historians overhear you discussing an alternative view, whether you're walking around with your own group or you're just standing there talking to somebody, observing the walls, it's not uncommon for them to display some degree of hostility. I encountered such hostility in. In fact, we were very close. My group was very close to getting thrown out of Machu Picchu last time we were there. And the reason why is because there's a particular stone structure in Machu Picchu called the Inti Watana. And the Inti Watana is basically a timepiece. It's a solar timepiece. And it's. It's got very intricate cuts in it. It's. I believe it's granite, and it. It's. It's devised to make calcul calculations based on the shadows that are cast from the sun. And they call it the. There it is. They call it the hitching post of the sun because it was. It was a solar timepiece. And I became aware before I went to Peru with this. I. I took a group to Peru with, by the way, blurry creatures. It was. We did a Peru trip last year. I went with Nate and Luke from Blurry Creatures and, And a group of about 40 people went with us. And we were touring Machu Picchu and. And I was. I was talking. Me and. Me and my colleague Andres Adasme, who I previously mentioned, were kind of guiding our group around Machu Picchu. And I had become aware previous to this trip that it appears, apparently they have discovered. I believe it's in Turkey, another Inti Watana. But it's, It's. It's very similar. I've seen pictures of it, and it's very similar to the one in Machu Picchu, and it appears to have the same function. It. It looks like a solar device, a device that's. That was used to. To make calculations based on the movements of the sun. So that obviously is very intriguing because if. If it's true that there's an Inti Watana in Turkey, then that is proof positive that the Inca did not build Machu Picchu because they were in Rome, in Turkey, as far as I know, there were no Inca in Turkey. So I was discussing this with my group, and we weren't. We weren't. They. For some reason, they, they close off the area where the Intihuatana is at Machu Picchu. Now in the afternoon, it's only open in the morning for whatever reason, and we couldn't go up there because we were in the afternoon. And. And so we were sort of standing at a different part of the. Of the citadel, and I was pointing up to it, talking and discussing the Inti Watana, the Intiwantana and the. And the one in Turkey, and there happened to be a guide standing. There wasn't. He was not part of our group. He was a. What would you call him? I mean, he was, he was a. He was a. One of the official guides, but he was also there to kind of like, in, like, in a guard capacity, also walking around, making sure people aren't climbing around on the megaliths and, and, and also eavesdropping and listening to what's being said, because they do that at Machu Picchu. But he's an official, an official employee, and he heard me talking about this, and I was speaking English. He spoke English and, and making some commentary in Spanish as well. And he literally walked up to us and started waving his hands and saying, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. You can't say that. You can't say that. Who are you? What gives you the authority to say something like that? Are you a guide? Or do you have permission to. To basically to say the things you're saying? And I looked at him and I said, I. I don't think I need permission to express an opinion about these stones. And I, I even said to him, I said, what. What are we, North Korea? I mean, I'm not allowed to have my own thoughts about this. And what I'm saying is he contended.
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Top Lobsta
The information, he didn't like it at.
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Timothy Albarino
All, that we were. That, that I was saying that I. That I was suggesting that there was a. There was an Inti.1 Intijuatana artifact somewhere other than Machu Picchu or Peru. And, and, and suggesting thereby that. That Machu Picchu was not, in fact, built by the Inca, that it was built by some other more ancient civilization, a lost civilization. And and it clearly. And it clearly was not built by the Inca. The foundations of Machu Picchu are megalithic. And then you see where the Inca repaired those foundations and built on top of them, and it's obviously inferior. So they found Machu Picchu and they built it up again. And Machu Picchu, by the way, that's not the original name. The natives called it Ijampu. And Ijampu means the abode of the gods or the dwelling of the gods. And why would they say that? Why would they call this the abode of the gods? Because of the megalithic ruins. So the Inca, I think, very clearly found Machu Picchu in a ruined state, saw the megalithic foundations and. And assumed that the gods had built this place and had inhabited it. And so obviously, they were the offspring of the gods, the Inca, in their minds. And. And so this was their legacy, this was their heritage. And so, of course, they're going to rebuild it and reoccupy it being the offspring of the gods. And I think the name, the original name for the site reflects that. Ijampu, the abode of the gods. So, but long story short, this. This individual became very hostile with us, me and Andres, and threatened to kick us out and ban us for life and was basically pushing us out of the complex just because we were saying, suggesting that, you know, the things I had, I. I've said. So there's definitely.
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Top Lobsta
This is not something that they're doing because somehow what you're saying is. Is dangerous, but more so because they're so sick and tired with this potential, like, ancient aliens narrative and the west coming over and turning, you know, their culture into a history. That's what this derives from. This.
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Timothy Albarino
That's part of it, certainly. It's certainly part of. But also there's a sanctioned narrative, and it's, you know, in this day and age, they accuse you of racism if you say that the Inca didn't build this, you know, you. They'll tell you you're stripping us. You're. Why are you trying to strip us of our heritage? Which is funny, because the Peruvians are not the descendants of the Inca. They're not. So when they say this is our heritage, it's really not their heritage. The Inca subjugated their people. The Inca were a bloodline. They were. They look different. I mean, you look at a picture of Altawapa on. Pull up an image of Altahualpa on Google. He was the. The Sapa Inca, the. The Inca emperor. When the Spanish arrived, when When Francisco Pizarro arrived to Peru during the conquest of Peru, he has a mustache and he's described by the chroniclers as being more fair skinned and taller than the other. This is not a, this is not commentary on race. This is just historical fact. And so the Inca were a bloodline. It is not accurate to call all of the inhabitants of the Inca empire as, as Inca, to, to denominate them all as Inca. Rather, all of these different tribes were subjugated by the Inca and the Inca were a very particular bloodline. They were, it was the royal family. Only the royal family were the Inca and everyone else was whatever the tribe. They happened to be in fact in the city of Cusco. City of Cusco is divided into four quarters, just like the empire at large, the Tawantinsuyu, which had four sectors. And, and the, and those sectors, by the way, correspond to the way that the city of Cusco is divided. And I have this whole. There's a lot you could say there, but. And in each sector, each tribe that lived in the city of Cusco subjugated. The Inca had to live and were confined to their sector of the city. And by law, they had to dress in their serum in their tribal garb. So they had to dress the way their tribal people traditionally dress and they had to stay in their sector. They were not Inca. They were subjugated by the Inca. The Inca lived in the palaces. So, and some people believe that the Inca, that at least some of the Inca had elongated skulls, that, that that particular race was an elongated skull race. I don't know. I haven't personally seen evidence of this. The images of the Inca kings, of the Inca princes and kings kind of negates that theory because none of them depict any of the Inca with elongated skulls. However, there are some indications that that might be true. And I saw you pulled up some pictures of Alta Walpole. There's a couple in particular where he has, he has a mustache and some where he doesn't, but there's a, a couple where he has a mustache. Mustache. And I saw one of Wasar that you pulled up. Waskar doesn't have a mustache, but half brother. There he is, he's got a little.
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David Lee Corbel
Little dust, he got a little stash.
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Top Lobsta
Does have a little mustache. What ultimately became of the actual Inca bloodline?
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Timothy Albarino
They were now, they were completely annihilated. Genocide. The Inca were genocided. So this, it's a false notion in Peru that, you know, the Peruvians hail from the Inca. They don't. They come from the other tribes that were subjugated by the Inca and, and, and that's not to disparage the Peruvian people at all. These were, all of these other tribes were remarkable in their own way. But the Inca empire, the Inca lineage is gone. It was, it was very purposely eradicated by the Spanish. So I don't know why we went down that path.
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Top Lobsta
But originally going in this direction of whether or not there is. I guess it would have been the stories from the Inca that the megalithic site that they built upon were actually built by a race of giants.
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Timothy Albarino
The Inca have no commentary. Well, they don't have any writing. They don't have any writing. They have what's called kiputs and they have Upana as well. Upana was their, was their system, their mathematical system. A kipus was there, you might call it writing, but it's not writing. It's, it's, you've probably seen it. It's like knots. It's strings with knots in it. And this was a very, very, very sophisticated form of communication. And only the Inca priests and, and the, and the royal bloodline were privy to quipus. They're the only ones who could read it. And so there was no writing. So we don't know what the Incas say about anything. We can't read kipus, so we don't know. We do know, however, what the Aymara people who are up in, in the, in the north by south, rather, they're south of Cusco by Puno. They inhabited that area very, very ancient people, the Aymada people and the Quechua people. The Quechua were the inhabitants around the Cusco. And the Ketchuans say that before the Inca came, that the walls of Sacsaywaman, the megalithic sites, the, that you find in the Andes, were constructed by the offspring of the gods, the giants. They'll say that the giants built them.
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Top Lobsta
That's what they said, the offspring of the gods.
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Timothy Albarino
Right. So the, so Sacsaywaman, for example, if you ask, and you can still find them in Cusco, the, the older Ketchuan people, some of them don't even speak Spanish. They only speak Quechua. And if you were to ask them who built these megalithic walls, they would tell you that they were built by giants. So that's the, the lore of the pre Inca people. The, the, and again, the Inca never actually claimed that they built them. So all of the, the walls around Machu Picchu, all of the, rather, what am I saying here? All of the megalithic foundations of Cusco when you're actually walking in the city, I'm not talking about Sacsay woman now, which is a mile outside of the city. It's kind of really part of Cusco. But when you're walking downtown, in downtown Cusco in the middle of the city and you're walking through the streets, which is really remarkable because as you're walking through the streets, you, you are bounded by massive, exquisite megalithic walls. And they're the majority of them, if not all of them, the, the largest ones are made of green diorite. And I know that the original megalithic foundations of, of Cusco are green diorite. I know that for a fact. So somebody was building there long before the Inca. The Inca, what they received was a legacy. They received information and knowledge from an older culture. Now the Inca were very sophisticated masons. They were excellent masons. I always call the Inca the Romans of, of South America. They very much like the Romans were, were incredible masons and they, they were, they built amazing aqueduct aqueducts just like the Romans, different kinds of aqueducts. So they were, they were ingenious, they were ingenious farmers. I mean they, they invented some, some absolutely incredible agricultural technologies and they were a very sophisticated, remarkable civilization. So I'm not trying to take anything away from the Inca.
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David Lee Corbel
Would you say invented or imparted?
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Timothy Albarino
I would say that the, in this, the Inca were in possession of unusual knowledge. That's evident. But they didn't build the megaliths. And let's, let's take one example in particular. The walls of Sacsaiwaman. You go to Peru, Cusco, rather you go to the walls of Sacsaiwaman. Some of the most impressive megalithic walls, maybe the most impressive megalithic walls on Earth. And everybody says they were built by the Inca. Where's the proof that they were built by the Inca nun? There is no proof. The doorways at Sacsaiwaman, and this is not always the case with megaliths, by the way, but the doorways at Sacsaiwaman are immense. They're built for nine. You could, a nine foot tall person, even a ten foot tall person in some cases can pass through those doorways. And you'll notice the steps, the steps that go up through the citadel of Sacsaiwaman are spaced unusually far apart. So I'm six foot one. My, my stride, those stairs were not built for a guy of my size. If, if, if those stairs were, were built the way we build stairs, where you sort of take a stride on each step, then you're looking at a nine foot tall guy, which would correspond to the doors. And I think Sacsay Woman is unique in, in this aspect that looks like it was built for very large people, whereas Ojantaitambo doesn't, by the way, which is also an exquisite megalithic site. But in the case of Sacsaiwaman, it does. And what's, what's really important is to understand that there is no direct evidence that the Inca built Sacsaiwama. None. In fact, there is direct evidence to the contrary that's never, never been published officially. I have a friend, a good friend of mine named Anselm P. Rambla, who's a Spanish explorer and has, has, has done archaeology. He's not an archaeologist, but he's worked with archaeology. He's had an archaeologist on his team and they were given permission to excavate around Sacsai Woman. And it's all documented. And when they were, they were digging into the foundations of Sacsay Woman. And when they went deep into the foundations, because a lot of that citadel is still buried. When they dug down deep into the foundations, he discovered pre Incan artifacts. That's it. That's it. That's conclusive evidence that the Inca didn't build Sacsaiwaman, that somebody else did, because you have pre Inca artifacts at the foundation, which means that those walls were standing when a pre Incan civilization occupied that area before the Inca.
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Top Lobsta
So what happens when their historical centers get a hold of that sort of information?
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Timothy Albarino
Well, they'll never, they'll never concede that in Peru because their whole, the whole industry, the tourism industry is, is established on the Inca empire. So they want all of these major sites to be Inca. Not everything. You know, you have the Moche civilization, you have the Paraca civil, you have all different kinds of civilizations that have their own ruins. But, but, but as it pertains to Cusco in the, in the Andes mountains, it's the Inca, it's the Inca empire. And to attribute the walls of Sacsaiwaman to a pre Incan culture, it's almost sacrilegious to them and it deflates their narrative. And I'm not saying that an inferior pre Inca culture built those walls. What I'm saying is that an inferior pre Inca culture inhabited that area while those walls were standing. Those walls, in my estimation, were built in the antediluvian age by a remarkable civilization that was destroyed in the cataclysm. And, and they were using the same kind of technology and knowledge seen all over the world on every continent. So the Point is that we, there's artifacts. Anselm documented the artifacts, he took pictures. There are archaeologists on the scene, there were pot, there's pottery shards, there's artifacts of pre Incan civilizations down. When you dig down into the strata and you get down to the foundations. So, so that right there is, is evidence that, that the Inca didn't build those walls. But, but you'll never see that, you'll never hear that. In fact, here in the United States, I'm probably the only person who knows, but Anselm Piramala has documented it and, and, and did great work over there and I could talk for hours about, about Anselm Pirambla. But so that just gives you an idea of, of how misconstrued some of these megalithic sites are in regard to their, in regard to the conventional narrative that's, that's literally just concocted to explain their existence. And there's so, there's so much you could, you could say about these megalithic sites. I do believe that there, there was a post flood culture that could still build megaliths on a smaller scale. There was one, the Phoenicians, but aside from the Phoenicians, by the way, who built Solomon's temple, the Phoenicians who circumvented, circumnavigated Africa, the Phoenicians who built the battleships and so much of the great palaces in Egypt. The Phoenicians. The Phoenicians are an important key to unlocking some of the mysteries of the post flood ancient world. But the Phoenicians, they were the only ones in a post flood context, as far as I can tell, who could approximate the skill, the abilities of the masons that, that preceded them in the, in the antediluvian world. And, and also by the way, the Phoenicians, there were giants among the Phoenicians and they had a cult of giant worship.
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David Lee Corbel
Now do you think? So I was, that was the question I was actually going to ask. Is it, was it, is it the people or is it the knowledge that they then are imparted by their predecessors or their lowercase g gods? Because it kind of just draws some overlaps with, for me, with what's been going on with the UFO narrative where, where reverse engineering, some of this stuff that has been left behind crashed here purposefully or whatever you'd like to think about it. We are working with this technology. It's, it's of my opinion that we're using it right now to talk because I Don't know exactly where you are, but David's about two hours from where I am. And this is a miracle. None of this stuff is even connected with, with wire. It's kind of going through the air somehow. Where do, where do aliens fall into this for you?
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Timothy Albarino
Or at least you mean specifically? Are you talking about in an ancient context or are you talking about like, just in general?
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David Lee Corbel
Yeah, the current. Well, whatever, whatever the narrative is today.
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Timothy Albarino
Okay, let me put that, let me, let me address both, both of those things. First, in an ancient context, I said that the, the premise of ancient aliens is true. The premise, the premise of ancient aliens is that mankind has been in contact with extraterrestrial beings since the beginning. That's a, that is a biblical fact. That's a biblical fact. That's not ancient astronaut theory. That is a biblical fact fact. Now they get out, they get off into the weeds after that. But, but I, but I want everyone to realize that that is indeed true. Now that does not mean that aliens built the pyramids or aliens built this or that. No, no, that I think is ridiculous, so I'll leave that there. But in regard to the phenomenon today, I think it's, it's evident that there is an alien presence. And I use the word alien very purposely. Alien simply means, let's make it, let's make it specific to sentient beings, okay? Because you can have an amoeba on Mars that's technically an alien species. Right. In regard to conscious beings, alien is simply a race of conscious beings that is not us, that is not the human species. So any conscious beings that inhabit the Earth that are not the human race are alien to the human race. Now that, that applies whether those creatures, whether those entities are from Mars or whether they're from the Earth or whether they're from some extra dimensional reality. Right? So that that term applies. Extraterrestrial is much more definitive. Extraterrestrial is a being whose provenance is not planet Earth. So that's different. So an extraterrestrial is not from here. Now, you could have extraterrestrial beings who have been inhabiting the Earth longer than the human species, right? They would still be extraterrestrial if they did, if they didn't originate here, even if they've been inhabiting the planet longer than us. That's an important thing to keep in mind when you, when you, when you are exposed to the, the many, many different theories of, in, in the, in ufology, in regard to these entities, in regard to these, the alien presence, as I call it, so there is an alien presence. There's no question that there's an alien presence. The nature of that presence, the provenance of those beings, that can be debated. And I don't know if I'm answering your question, but you know, there's a whole lot of, and I'm sure in the, in the, in the comments of these kinds of discussions, you're going to get the usual fare. You're gonna, you're gonna get the people who say not the, the aliens are just extraterrestrial, extra dimensionals, not extraterrestrial, extra dimensional or aliens are just demons, blah, blah, blah. Those are very easy, simple explanations for something that's very complex and therefore those are very inaccurate explanations. So there's this contention that this alien presence, these entities with whom humanity is interacting and interacting today in a very physical way, we're talking about physical craft, reverse engineering of tangible technology, interfacing with physical beings. That's the kind of interaction I'm talking about. Not like psychic interaction or something like that. I'm talking about physical interaction. There's this notion that people want to write off what's called the extraterrestrial hypothesis, completely write it off and say, no, no, no, these are extra dimensionals or ultra terrestrials or, you know, again, they come from the inner Earth, whatever. The problem is that we know that the craft, their craft is capable of traversing outer space and obviously I'm going to be triggering all the flat Earthers here, but that their craft is capable of, of, of traversing through our upper atmosphere and in, in and outside of the atmosphere of Earth. We know that because there have been credible, legitimate video evidence and photographic evidence, evidence of, of UFO craft, including saucers out there. So it's. So for me, I'm going to say that the alien presence is at least extraterrestrial. Why do I say that? Because if they can fly around in the, in, in, in the, in outer space, then what's going to inhibit them from flying to Mars or having a base on Mars or originating from Mars or any of the other planets in our solar system? Nothing is the answer. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. So I think at least we're dealing with extraterrestrials in the sense that they're not originally from the Earth. Now, are they inhabiting the Earth? And you know, there could be very various groups here, but are they inhabiting the Earth? I think the answer there is also clearly yes, because I think it's. If you do, if you delve into, deep into ufology, you're going to encounter, I think sufficient evidence to deduce that. Let's be specific to gray aliens, for example. Gray aliens have bases in the Earth and under the sea. I think that's evident. So they're here and they're both inhabiting the Earth and also have the capability to go elsewhere, presumably in the, in the solar system. So, so you see, you have a very complex picture here. There are no easy answers in regard to extra. And I know you didn't ask me this question, but this is where my brain went for whatever reason in regard to extra. Extra, extra dimensional hypotheses. I'm open to this. Certainly. I do believe there are more than. I subscribe to the, to, to the extra spatial hypothesis. In other words, that there are more than three dimensions, physical dimensions, something like string theory, where there's, you know, 10 different dimensions to our reality that we currently reside in that we just can't perceive. So I do subscribe to that. I don't subscribe to alternate world theory. I don't subscribe to the notion that there are multi, a multiverse, which obviously the MCU and so many of the popular movies that have come out in the last 10 years have, have made, made great use of this multiverse idea.
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Top Lobsta
Yeah, that premise really caught fire, huh?
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Timothy Albarino
Yeah, way too much too. Because if they're conflating a bunch of different theories, the multiverse is different than, than an alternative world theory. It's, it's not the same and it's not the same as hyperspace theory, which is what I said that extras there are extra spatial dimensions to the reality that we inhabit. That's called hyperspace. And I, I believe in hyperspace. I think that's, I think that's part of the fundamental reality of, of our world that we inhabit. But, but this idea of multiverse, that's completely different. That is a totally different idea. And then obviously alternate realities, alternate worlds are, are worlds that are not within our, are not within the known universe. They're like they're outside of the known universe. These are all different ideas. They really are. They're different theories that, that movies just, they just compress them all together and they confuse the hell out of everybody. And so when someone says, oh, these are extra dimensional beings, well, what exactly do you mean by extra dimension? Are you saying that they're coming from a multiverse? Are you saying they're coming from like an alternate universe, like Narnia? Are you saying that they're able to access the full spectrum of hyperspace, of our hyperspace? Reality, but that's still our universe, mind you. That's still our universe. What are you saying? And the reality is that most people who use that term don't have any idea what they're saying. And so they take this, and forgive me for the rant here, but they take this very plausible rational explanation, the extra terrestrial hypothesis, and they throw it in the garbage in favor of an extra dimensional hypothesis which they do not understand and nobody really does because we've never seen another dimension. We have no idea what another dimension looks like or what, what entities coming from another dimension would look like or how they would act or how they would operate. We have no idea because all, all bets are off. When you talk about a multiverse, for example, you could be talking about a plane of existence where all of the laws of physics are different. I do not subscribe to that. I do not believe that's real. That is fantasy as far as I'm concerned. So, so if that's the case, then all you, this is a realm of speculation that, that requires imagination really. And, and I'm not discounting that there's, there's maybe something to this extra dimensional hypothesis, not multiverse and not alternative world theory. I, I reject those two on biblical grounds. And that's another conversation. Hyperspatial reality. Yes. And so these are, it's very important that, that, that people don't try and simplify something that's very complex because you lose the granularity of it. You, It's a very low resolution perspective. And so in regard to who these entities are, well, there's things that we know about. I'm not sure if this was even your question. There's things that we know about them. We know that they have nuts and bolts, bolts, technology that we can recover and reverse engineer. And people might say, well, what makes you think you know that we know that and you can spend three hours explaining why it's, it's, it's really conclusive that that's the fact that that's reality. We know they're physical beings, at least some of them. We know that they're using technology. We know that they die and it can be killed, in fact. So, so we're dealing with a physical reality and they are, are abiding by at least some of what we understand as the laws of physics. They're not entering into our reality and doing whatever they want, like, like, like the genie from Aladdin. So we know these things. And so the, the extra, and we, as I said before, we also know that Their capabilities are such that they can easily maneuver outside of our atmosphere. And just as, Just as they have bases on the Earth, it. It, it seems rational to conclude that they have bases elsewhere in the solar system. They certainly have the technology apparently, to, To. To traverse the air in the same way that they traverse the water. This is apparent and even in the documentation that's been released by the government. When a saucer goes into the sea, when it goes into the water, it moves through the water in the same way it moves through the air. In other words, the water, there is no impedance or the water whatsoever because it's not moving.
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David Lee Corbel
It's. I'm sorry, it's like the technology is kind of like actually dragging it forward rather than propelling it forward. That's at least what I've understood from Bob Lazar and what he said.
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Timothy Albarino
The space time, Space time, it's not moving. It's. It's not moving through matter. It's moving space time around it. Mm. So that's why it's moving the atmosphere around it. It's moving. It's bending space time. So water and air, it doesn't matter.
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Top Lobsta
Because it's literally bending, removing all resistance. There's no resistance, there's no friction.
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Timothy Albarino
Right. It's not moving through the air, it's not actually moving through the water. It's moving that matter around it.
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David Lee Corbel
Mr. Albarino, before, because I want to respect your time, and we've actually gone five minutes over them.
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Timothy Albarino
I. Sorry, I apologize for this. This rant.
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Top Lobsta
Fantastic. No, no, no, hey, we're just doing this for your sake.
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David Lee Corbel
I got time for it.
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Timothy Albarino
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbel
I don't. I want to respect. It's. It's amazing that you came on here to talk with us to begin with. So I do thank you for that. Tremendous. Thank you. Where do you put the idea. Sorry, just before, you know, you have to go, or anything. Where do you put the idea of accounts saying when people are being abducted or experiencing sleep paralysis, the name of Jesus Christ breaks that. That occurrence from happening?
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Timothy Albarino
I would never discount that and I would never. I would never accuse somebody of lying. They tell me that, that, that that is, has happened. However, the problem is that we have a lot of data from abductees accrued over decades by competent researchers. And within this body of data, there are many, many, many accounts. I shouldn't say many, many, many. There are numerous accounts in which. In which Christians are enthusiastically rebuking their abductees, abductors, rather, in the name of Jesus, to no effect.
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David Lee Corbel
Interesting.
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Timothy Albarino
And in Fact, there are some very interesting scenarios in which one case, for example, I believe this is in the work, Carla Turner, the late Dr. Carla Turner, in which an individual is rebuking the abductors in the name of Jesus, vociferously, enthusiastically, and the Grays simply disappear for a minute and come back with Jesus. And Jesus says, no, it's okay, they're with me. Obviously not Christ, but, but a, a, a. In other words, they saw that the abduction, the abductee was distraught, was rebuking them in the name of Jesus. So they wanted to diffuse this abductees panic and fear. And so they bring in a Jesus like figure, probably a hybrid that with. And I believe this figure had blonde hair and a beard and bright blue eyes and, and was, was comforting this abductee saying, no, it's okay, they're with me. They're not here to harm you. They work for me. That sort of thing. So there's all kinds of stuff like that I've heard. I'm not saying that was Jesus. I'm saying that was, that was a. Yeah, that was a deception even from.
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David Lee Corbel
One of our members. I believe stories similar to that where they will have. It almost seems like it's within the rules for them to replicate or deceive, just so long as they can get the consent to do so.
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Timothy Albarino
Well, I've got, you know, so that's, that's what I told you there, and there may be something what you just said, but there's, there's. What I just cited is stuff that is a particular story that comes out of the data that comes out of, out of the abduction material. But then, then I also have plenty of people who I know personally, people who I can attest to that are genuine, sincere believers in Christ who are abductees and who rebuke and, and so forth, and, and to no avail. They get abducted. But, but here's the, here's the main thing, okay? And this is what people, this gets lost in the conversation. Most abductees are already incapacitated before the Grays arrive. You don't even have an opportunity to rebuke. You're already incapacitated in most cases. In fact, if the Grays are going to come abduct you in most cases, not always, but in most cases, before they arrive, you're out of it. You're already ready to go, so to speak, they come and they collect you. They've already incapacitated you, most likely through the implants. So this notion that the Grays show up and you have all this energy to be able to, you know, rebuke and this and that and.
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David Lee Corbel
Sorry, wait a second.
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Timothy Albarino
You just.
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David Lee Corbel
Most likely, most likely through the implants, just gloss over that. What are you saying?
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Timothy Albarino
The implants that the grays implant the abductees with very small, about the size of pill technological device. And I think that part of it could have many functions. But, but one of the, one of the most obvious functions would be to control the nervous system and, and other functions of the human body and mind and to render the abductee in a state of, in a state of compliance. Right. Or, or, or, or incapacitation. In other words, you show up, the grays show up and the abductee is just out of it, ready to go and they come and collect the abductee. And that's not always the case. And it depends by the way, the proximity of the craft has a lot to do with this. So can we hold that thought for a minute? Can I take a one minute break?
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Top Lobsta
Absolutely.
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Timothy Albarino
All right.
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David Lee Corbel
Absolutely.
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Timothy Albarino
Talk amongst yourselves. All right.
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Top Lobsta
This would be a good time to toss up our ad.
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Timothy Albarino
This is.
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David Lee Corbel
Yeah, well, toss up the ad. This is a great episode so far.
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Timothy Albarino
I don't even know.
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David Lee Corbel
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Timothy Albarino
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David Lee Corbel
Jacob, I will say you're correct, but we're not so sub 100. We have over 100 on rumble and from Twitter. The total count probably right now is 500 something whatever. So it's spread out among a couple of places. Mr. Albarino's back.
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Timothy Albarino
I'm back.
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David Lee Corbel
Smooth transition.
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Top Lobsta
That was perfect timing. We had the opportunity to run an ad and so what were we talking about before we dismounted here?
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Timothy Albarino
We were talking about rebuking aliens in the name of Jesus. I think that's what you're talking about.
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David Lee Corbel
The question I had here. So what do you, in your opinion, what is their intention? Because every time I look at it, it does seem malicious in some sort of way. Like being being abducted in general is malicious. It kind of goes against code. It's, it's kidnapping goes against our code of ethics. So what are these things doing in your opinion?
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Timothy Albarino
Well, I would subscribe to Dr. Jacobs final analysis, which is planetary acquisition. I believe that the Grays are interested in planetary acquisition.
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Top Lobsta
Geez.
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Timothy Albarino
And, and that is their ultimate goal. And I always liken them to the antithesis of the board from Star Trek. So in other words, the opposite of the Borg. And if Trekkies out there will understand what I'm saying. The Borg were this, were this. They were cyborgs. And, and they would, they would, they would subdue and assimilate other civilizations into their own collective. So they would take all of the civilizational knowledge and technology and incorporate into their cyborg collective and do so overtly. A hostile, overt takeover. Right, where the Grays are the opposite of that. The Grays do the very opposite. The Grays assimilate themselves, themselves into your civilization and take over in a subversive way, a covert way, by, by. And when I say assimilate themselves into your civilization, also they assimilate themselves into your genome. So they create hybrids that are advanced hybrids that are, that are nearly indistinguishable from, from, from regular human beings. And for what purpose? I mean, we could speculate maybe some of the, some of the. Why they might, why they might do this. Many different reasons. But ultimately, ultimately, I think the overarching objective here is planetary acquisition. So, and that is the grace.
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David Lee Corbel
Now does, it does overlap with, I mean, what were the intentions of, of the fallen, of the original watches when they, they intermingle with men? It was to Taint a gene pool. It was for dominion over Earth to take our birthright like these. These motives seem to overlap. Would you consider current aliens, extraterrestrials to be some sort of nephilim?
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Timothy Albarino
No, I don't think so, no. Because, I mean, that's kind of an interesting question, but it's a loaded question. I.
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David Lee Corbel
Sorry, I'll be back one sec.
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Timothy Albarino
I can, I can say that with confidence that aliens, the grays, let's be specific. So the, the grays. So when I say aliens, I mean I'm talking about the grays. Aliens are not demons. That is a, that is a false equivalency. They are not demons. And, and, and, and the reason why people get all up in arms about that statement is because they have a, they have a westernized perspective of what a demon is. And, and, and it's very, it's very ambiguous. It's a, it's an amorphous thing, evil, malevolent, grotesque creature. That's what it means to the Western, in the Western Christian mind. But that's invented. That is that, that is the product of medieval Christianity. If you're going to, in your statement, aliens are demons. If, if what you mean by demons is the biblical sense of demon, then, then you're only, then you're only talking about the, the disembodied spirits of dead giants, the, the spirits of the nephilim, which are the unclean spirits in the New Testament. That's it. And those are the inhabiting spirits. Those are the, the possessing spirits. And we know how those spirits manifest in the world. We know when those spirits inhabit somebody, that person is lost to madness. They have epilepsy. Epilepsy. How do you say that? They're throwing themselves in the New Testament of the fire, rolling around, foaming from the mouth, screaming, breaking chains. These are unhinged. These individuals are unhinged when they're inhabited by these demons. And so, you know, all you have to really do is, is analyze the disposition of the gray alien over and against the disposition of an unclean spirit in the New Testament. And you tell me, do these things look similar? And the answer is no, they couldn't be. They couldn't be more dissimilar. Gray aliens are dispassionate and robotic and, and very, very much controlled beings who, who do not display. They're not emotive. They don't display emotion. On the other hand, you have unclean spirits of the New Testament demons which are, as I said, unhinged and ravenous and screaming and Writhing. And people say, well, the gray aliens are the meat suits for the demons. But that doesn't make any sense either because you're dealing with the same problem. Why would these unclean spirits manifest in one way a human being and in a completely opposite way in a gray alien? Somebody explained that to me. Look, if you're going to concoct a theory, fine, but the theory's got to be rational. I mean, it's got to be.
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Top Lobsta
Would it be because the. If these were to be sort of a biotech meat suit, that they are limited in their capacity for expression in comparison to God's creation.
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Timothy Albarino
Why? And number one, why? Number two, why do they want to be in there?
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David Lee Corbel
I don't think they do.
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Timothy Albarino
Why would they want to be in there? Gray aliens don't even have sexual organs.
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Top Lobsta
The theory would go that they are. They're, I suppose, entrapped in this realm. Right. Tartarus. And that they cannot. Almost like Al Capone controlling the mob from prison, where he can't be on the outside, but he can still kind of pull the strings. And so the idea is that who's El Capone scenario. Al Capone, I suppose, would be like the fallen. Right. And so that through some technological means. No, like the Fallen that are locked in Tartarus.
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Timothy Albarino
Okay, so the watch.
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Top Lobsta
So, yeah, the Watchers. I'm sorry. And so the idea would be that they can enter this realm through. Through some limited technological means outside of just inhabiting a person, possessing a person, that they can, I suppose, get here through technology. Right. Sometimes Top and I talk about how it seems as though if you go back through history, there are always these moments where society is pushed forward a little bit through some sort of technological advancement, and that oftentimes it comes in the form of like some lowercase G. God teaching you agriculture, Teaching of people agriculture. Or you know, fast forward to the Roswell crash. Whether or not, like Top alluded to earlier, that was on purpose or not isn't really the point. The point is we recovered some technology from that and that maybe that that technology informs the technology that we use today. And so if you're going, this is obviously theory, right? We have no tangible evidence to support this theory. But the idea is that maybe there has always been a push to get society to a technological level advanced enough that something on the other side of the veil could utilize this technology. You know, you look at situations like Stargates, and I know I'm dragging you into the weeds here and kind of unprovable. Welcome to the show Jargon. Welcome to the show.
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Timothy Albarino
Right. Myself, so, so, you know, I have a hard time.
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David Lee Corbel
I have a hard time putting, like biblically putting where these, these aliens would fall because they're certainly important in how the next couple of years are going to play out. Like, there's a. There's just been too much, like in the past hundred years, too much back and forth and like, like just dangling around this ufo, extra. Extraterrestrial, extra dimensional. It seems like we're, we're being prepared for something. Something's about to happen tonight and it seems big.
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Timothy Albarino
How vivid would your portrait of reality be if you were limited to three crayons. Crayons to color in that reality? Say you were, you were coloring a portrait of reality, trying to be as accurate as possible, but you're limited to three, let's say markers, three different colors. Okay. That's what we're dealing with right now. So we, the Christian community, because, and rightly so, we are based, we are anchored into the biblical narrative. We assume that everything that happens around us in the universe has a direct explanation inside of this text, the 66 books of the Bible. So every kind of being that one might encounter in the universe, therefore, would have to be an angel, a demon, a human or God, basically. Right. And so that's what I'm talking about. So you've got like four colors here that you can use to color in this portrait of reality. And, and it's just, it's just woefully inaccurate. So, so we have this desire and we feel that we are constrained to explain everything, all of reality, the compendium of reality, using four terms, let's be more specific, the compendium of all consciousness in the universe. We feel constrained to describe all of it with four angel, demon, human, God. And I'm saying that is woefully inaccurate. I think we can, we can disabuse ourselves of this constraint. We can take the word demon and we can apply it accurately to where we see demons in the New Testament, the Old Testament. New Testament, really, and understand that that's a thing. And then we can take this term angel, not fallen angel, by the way. That's. I understand what the term means, but that's not a biblical term. So you take this term angel or sons of God, and we can slot that over here where it's appropriate because we can understand it in regard to the biblical narrative. God, obviously, that's an easy one, right? And then human beings, that's easy too. We can put all of those in their places and then allow for a whole panoply of other things to exist also. And I think that we have to do that. So we. There is no reason in my mind, there's no. There's no rational, no justifiable rationale in my mind to. To associate a New Testament unclean spirit, which is a demon, with a gray alien. I don't have to make that association. I'm not compelled to make that association. What is a gray alien? A gray alien is a gray alien. That's what it is. Now, is it entirely biological? Probably not. Is it entirely mechanical or the product of artificial intelligence? Probably not. It's probably a composite. I would say it's likely a composite. It's some sort of a. A cybernetic biological creature. Possibly there's an AI hive mind there. Maybe. I don't know. Nobody does. It is physical. Is it a meat suit? Is it just a suit for something? Well, I don't know as maybe, but that's. That's just. I mean, there's. There's no way to answer that question definitively one way or another. But we. What. What we can. What we can understand is the disposition of the gray. What. What is it like? What does it do? Can you kill it so we. We can answer those three questions definitively? It's dispassionate and robotic. It. The grays are. Are occupied for the most part, with. With processing abductees. And yes, you can kill them. Now, are you going to be able to? No. But yes, you can, because they die. So I have a friend who is an abductee who reached out and grabbed a gray by the neck and squeezed its neck to choke it, but she went unconscious, which is always going to be the case. But let's assume that maybe this gray, for whatever reason, could not incapacitate her. Could she have choked that thing to death or snapped its neck? I'm sure she could have. So. So these are things we know. If and when I say we know, I'm of course referencing the abduction material and people who are being abducted who continue to talk.
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Top Lobsta
So it feels like, Tim, if we just turn this corner within the scientific community and we started dedicating resources to being able to resist the mechanism that they use to cast us into a hypnosis state or put, you know, put us into a paralysis state, whatever it is, that we could head kick the little ones, leg kick the tall, skinny ones, and end this entire situation. That if they just didn't have that one, because everything is like they are weak and thin. And frail. And oftentimes when people come to. I've heard stories where they seem worried, they seem frantic, they want to make you go back to.
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Timothy Albarino
Oh, yes, I've heard.
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Top Lobsta
To sleep.
- [116:46]
Timothy Albarino
Yes, there's, there's, there's historical accounts of that. And then I've also heard several counts of that from, from modern day abductees. You could resolve this whole problem with the shotgun if you could. If you could. If you could interrupt their technology if. When they came to get you, rather than you being, which is almost always the case, incapacitated, laying on your bed, can't move. Rather than that they come in and you're. I mean, if you, if you could, if you could interfere with the control mechanism. Problem is part of it is telepathic control. But, but, but let's say if you could interfere with this mechanism, because part of it I think is. I think a big part of it, the majority of the control mechanism is the implant. But also that there's telepathic control exerted on the abduct as well. Let's say you were impervious to the telepathic control and you've been able to disrupt that technological interference. You're gonna, you could, you could, you could dis. Dispatch with the Grays until they deploy whatever technology they have from their craft and, you know, and incinerate you. But you could, you could blow the heads off of these things. Yes, I have no doubt. And now would they bleed red blood? Probably not. They're not. They're not like us in that sense, you know. So these are probably clones. Okay, so they're biological cybernetic clones. And the real, I think organic creatures are the insectilins. Those are probably organic ones. Maybe those things bleed a little more like we do, but.
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Top Lobsta
And those seem a little bit more.
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David Lee Corbel
Formidable and like Reptilians. Possibly. Would you consider Reptilians in the same category?
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Timothy Albarino
No, I think Reptilian, something else.
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David Lee Corbel
But it's so crazy, dude.
- [118:35]
Timothy Albarino
It's like.
- [118:36]
David Lee Corbel
Because you, you're right. I want to put this in a nice little box, right? I want to put them. Okay, these are demons. We can deal with it now. Let's move forward.
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Top Lobsta
But I want to shotgun blast the box.
- [118:46]
Timothy Albarino
Quantum physics in a nice little box.
- [118:48]
David Lee Corbel
No, exactly.
- [118:49]
Timothy Albarino
I mean, I don't know.
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Top Lobsta
It depends on if you're looking on the. Looking in the box or not looking.
- [118:55]
Timothy Albarino
What I'm.
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David Lee Corbel
What I'm saying is putting God in a box. You absolutely cannot. And you've kind of broken down that wall for us again. Thank you for that.
- [119:04]
Timothy Albarino
You just can't.
- [119:04]
David Lee Corbel
There's just infinite possibilities of what is going on, and it's way worse than we think.
- [119:09]
Timothy Albarino
My slogan is embrace the complexity. Don't try and simplify it. Don't be a reductionist. Don't try and simplify it. Don't, don't take these few words that you have at your disposal for the biblical narrative and try to, and try to explain everything going on with them. That's infantile. And there's no, there's no commandment to do such a thing. There's, there's no, there's, there's no reason why someone who subscribes to the gospel of Christ should feel constrained to do such a thing. I certainly don't. A gray alien is a gray alien. And, and why does it have to have anything to do whatsoever with a demon, number one, or with watchers, number two? It. Now can we understand, can we, can we make an evaluation in regard to their, to their, let's say, morality, and that's probably not the best word that I'm looking for here, but, but yes, we can what, look at all morality. What they're doing is nefarious. Yeah. And what they're doing, they're not asking our permission to do it. I mean, not each individual abductee. They're not. Apparently nothing they're doing is beneficial to us. It's. It's invasive. It's intrusive. There isn't, There aren't any real abductees, not contactees, abductees who want to be abducted that I know of or have ever heard of. You know, it's, it's. People are being taken against their will. And, and, and obviously this is nefarious. Obviously this is an enemy. This is an enemy. And, and that's it. I mean, there's not a whole lot more we can know than this is what they act like. This is what they do. And based on what they, what they act like, their disposition and what they do, we can, we can make certain determinative. Determinative statements like their physical. And they're nefarious. And again, we're referencing specifically the grace. So they're deceptive. Certainly they're deceptive. They, they create screen memories in the minds of the abductees so they can't remember the abduction episodes. They, so they're screwing with your mind. They're screw. They're. They're implanting their fetuses into the wombs of our females. That's pretty dastardly if you ask me. That's, that's, that's, you know, that's pretty cunning and, and certainly, certainly infringes on any, any notion of human freedom. And, and, you know, it's, it's contrary to our will, certainly. So it's not difficult to draw what I think is the obvious conclusion that the Grays are little evil bastards. And I would say more, more specifically, the Insectiles are evil bastards, because the Grays. I'm not sure if the Grays are even conscious. They may be. They very well, maybe, I don't know, but I, I'm pretty sure the Insectiles are. So for those who don't know, the Insectolins are the managers of the abduction program. If you're abducted, brought onto a craft, sometimes you'll encounter them, but they are the managers. They're the ones controlling the Grays now. Somebody controlling the insect lens. Maybe, maybe, maybe the Nordics are. I don't know, but I think we're dealing with at least four kinds of beings, probably more. But I, I think I can say pretty concretely that we're dealing with four. And I was pleased that my friend Richard Dolan actually has the same assessment. We're dealing with Insectilens, we're dealing with Grays, and the Gray faction really does include the Encyclopens. But let's, for the sake of clarity, the Insectlines, the Grays, the Reptilians and the Nordics. And I happen to believe that the Nordics are the angelic race. Could be wrong, but that's what I think. So these things are very likely real. The grace, it's a stone cold fact.
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David Lee Corbel
So if you're saying they're an angelic race, are you saying like, what, what exactly does that mean? And then that, that also. Does that lend itself to these other things being possibly like, like I was saying before, influenced by something that's not angelic?
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Timothy Albarino
I'm not sure I followed the question.
- [123:51]
David Lee Corbel
If so, if one is an angelic race, what do you mean by that?
- [123:55]
Timothy Albarino
Well, I heard of these beings as the elder race. In other words, they're older than the human species. These would be the sons of God. And, and if you read my book, you'll understand why I say this. They look like us, rather we look like them because we're sons of God as well. We're supposed to be. So we're. They were.
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Top Lobsta
They're.
- [124:13]
Timothy Albarino
We're part of the same family now. There are apostate sons, many apostate human sons, and certainly a lot of apostate. Angelic sons. Now, because I use the word angelic, I'm not, that doesn't mean ethereal. So it, it's, and people say, well, aren't they spiritual beings? Yes, fine, but what is spiritual? Because spiritual is not supernatural, by the way. Supernatural is a contrivance. There is no such word in the Hebrew Bible or in the New Testament. Doesn't exist word. Supernatural is not a biblical term. Much like fallen angel. These are not biblical terms. Now I get what people mean by both supernatural and fallen angel, but these are not biblical terms. Supernatural means above or beyond nature. And I don't think that, I don't think, I think there's one being who's above and beyond nature and that's God. Everything else is within the universe and has to abide by the laws, the same laws of physics and is all connected synergistically. That's Colossians 1:15, by the way. So, so the, the, these are, these are a race of beings who exist in the, in the universe who are not human, but are, are affiliated with the human race because they are members of the family. And what do I mean by that? I mean they're, they're members of the divine family. This is a biblical concept. They're called sons of God. We, we're also called sons of God who were given power to become sons of God according to Jesus. That's called the resurrection. So we're on the path to being returned to the father's house and becoming sons of God again, like Adam was, and being reunited with our family, that is our older siblings, our elder siblings, the elder race. But that's not to say that all of these older siblings are good. No, they're clearly not. A lot of them are apostate, just like a lot of human beings are, are trash. Okay, an apostate and evil. So this is, I, I, when you, there are some very unhelpful terms I think that have, you know, caused a lot of confusion. And, and one of those terms is supernatural. I don't, I don't, I don't take issue if people use the term supernatural because I know what they mean. But I think that word is engenders a lot more confusion than it does clarity. So don't misunderstand me when I say an angelic race. I'm not talking about some ethereal, supernatural genie thing. I'm talking about a race, a bona fide race of beings who pre exist us and who have, and who hail from a civilization that is much more advanced than ours. Indeed I would say this is the Kingdom of Heaven. So they're in play and have been in place since the beginning. That's why the premise of Ancient, Ancient aliens is in fact accurate. So they're in play. There's no question. If you subscribe to the Bible, then you know they're in play. The Grays, the Reptilians, Insectlyns. I think the evidence is very. Is overwhelming really, in regard to the existence of the Grays. In regard to the existence of the Reptilians, not so much. Although I do subscribe to the notion that such a race exists. Now where are they from? Are they extraterrestrial? Or are they. Are they a primordial terrestrial race that's been here always, These, these, these Reptilians? I don't know. I suspect that that might be true. So, you know, it's complex and, and it's like there's no way you can really simplify something so complex. You just have to it do deal with it and embrace the complexity and then, you know, stop trying to stop limiting yourself to three markers, three crayons, when, when attempting to color in the contours of reality.
- [128:21]
David Lee Corbel
Excellent. Absolutely excellent. I love, I like, I like doing our show where we can go off the rails, but I like it even more when somebody can come on and really, you know, give me something that's going. That I'm going to think about for the next week, probably a month or so, and really chew on this. Thank you for, thanks for doing that, man. And thank you for coming on. I think I want to respect your time again. We said it like an hour and a half when we, before we started and we're like 210. I hope you didn't have anything to do.
- [128:51]
Timothy Albarino
It was my own doing. And let me, let me, let me make it clear, by the way, that I do believe that. I do believe that Nephilim are still around. Giants. You mentioned earlier the Kandahar giant story. I'm telling you that's that that story is 100 true. Or at least, at least the, the, the elements of that story are 100 true, let's say. I. So I do believe that Nephilim are still around. It's not that I don't. That I don't believe in Nephilim and I do believe that. That the unclean spirits, the, the, the, the. These, the, the spirits of dead Nephilim are still around and still demon possession is, Is actually real. Although I don't think it occurs as much people think, but, but because There's a limited amount of these things. So, yes, all of that's real. So I'm not saying. No, that's not really real. And only aliens are real. No, no, that's not what I'm saying at all. Those things are real and they have their place in their category. There's no reason to assume that these other things are even directly associated with those. Might they be? Maybe, maybe. I haven't heard any compelling theories, though. However, again, to just highlight this last thing I do believe now, if you want to say, are aliens fallen angels? Now that's an interesting question. That's different than the question. Are. Aren't angel. Aren't aliens just demons? That. That's an irrational.
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David Lee Corbel
That's not the question. I would. I would pose. It would. It would be more our aliens. Nephilim being product of. The product of fallen angels and something.
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Top Lobsta
Yeah, a product somehow in relation.
- [130:31]
Timothy Albarino
Well, I mean, so, so, so this is part of this, what I was about to say. So, so our what, some of what we're calling aliens and extraterrestrials are those, quote, unquote, fallen angels? I think the answer to that question is absolutely yes. Not the grays, though. Are the grays created by, manufactured by the quote, unquote, fallen angels? Very possibly. Very possibly. Are the insectiles the fallen angels? No, no, that's something else. Are they created or controlled by, quote, unquote. I hate the term fallen angels. I'm using it for clarity's sake. Are they controlled by or created by the fallen angels? Potentially? That's absolutely a plausible theory. And, and I think there may be some truth there. I don't know. But, but so, so hopefully this, this is making sense to people. I just don't think that aliens are demons in the biblical sense. Doesn't make any sense.
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David Lee Corbel
It's important. And again, so the last sentence that you said there, we, we. This is what we've been talking about. We completely agree. The only thing that we've been doing is explaining it like a bunch of retards. It's. It's important to differentiate because it's true.
- [131:50]
Timothy Albarino
Like if we put out my drink.
- [131:52]
David Lee Corbel
If, if we're going to be battling.
- [131:54]
Timothy Albarino
What certainly is an enemy, like a bunch of retards. I mean.
- [131:59]
David Lee Corbel
That'S what I specialize in. I mean, you got no idea, Tim.
- [132:02]
Timothy Albarino
It's.
- [132:02]
Top Lobsta
It's kind of our thing now.
- [132:04]
Timothy Albarino
People are going to fixate. Now people are going to. They're going to discount everything we said and just fixate on the fact that we Use the term.
- [132:10]
David Lee Corbel
No, this is what I said, not Tim, but if you're going to. Like I, like you were saying, they're certainly an enemy or an adversary. It should, we should be specific about what they are. If there indeed is some kind of a culmination coming to a head or a battle or something with them, mixing them up doesn't really help. Being specific about what they are, what they do, their intentions, their motives, they're very, they're all very different. So yeah, we should, for the listener base, take that into account. Swallow your ego or whatever you were thinking before, take into account what he's saying.
- [132:44]
Timothy Albarino
There's a lot of things out there. You know, Bigfoot's out there somewhere. So, you know, I mean, we're not, we're not the only players in the game, okay? We're not the only conscious beings in the universe. That doesn't change the narrative of, of the Bible and it absolutely does not change or alter the gospel of Christ at all. And for some reason people think, think it does. It does. Not at all. I mean, there's something called sons of God, angels, that doesn't change the gospel. They're non human, extraterrestrial, sentient beings, full stop. They are. There's no, no one could. I don't care who you are, how many letters you have in front of your name. There's no getting around the fact that angels in the biblical sense are extraterrestrial. That is a, that is a fact. So, and I think, I think, you know, put a little bit of thought into it. Most people would, would agree obviously, that that's the case. Angels were not created on planet Earth. And, and anyone who thinks they were is just. I don't know where they, I don't know where they would, where they would draw that from. That, that, that, that, that would be a very, that would be a very extra biblical conclusion, certainly to think that angels derive or, or were, are earthborn creatures. They clearly are not. Right? So there it is. I mean, that's, that class of, of beings breaks that paradigm immediately. So if you people who say, well, wait a minute, if aliens exist, then what about this or what about that? Well, you already have that problem with angels. You already have it alien. The existence of other beings. Doesn't, doesn't. Is not a new problem. You already have that problem with the angelic race. So, and it's very clear that, that Jesus did not die for the angels. He died for the human species, for the sons and daughters of Adam. So that, that's A imagined obstacle here. And even the Catholic Church is, is wrestling with, with this imagined obstacle. It's, it's, it's, it's irrelevant really, because the, the, we've, we've been, we've been unintentionally, unconsciously grappling with this very, for many centuries. There are other extraterrestrial sentient beings in the universe, period. There are no one, no, no, no Bible literate Christian could ever, ever contend with that statement.
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David Lee Corbel
And to further your point, like you said, it doesn't weaken the narrative of the Bible. I think it actually strengthens it because there is something about our birthright and what we're given and what everything else in play here wants. Because everything, want, everything that you've been describing seems to want one thing, this similar thing, and it's been given to us and then even further consecrated, given to us even further by sending his son to die for us. So it's a very interesting thing to really.
- [136:20]
Timothy Albarino
I would encourage people to read my book Birthright. If you're confused, if you're wondering, if you think I'm a heretic or whatever, go read Birthright. I, I, I take great pains in that book to, to describe as, as articulately as I possibly can my thought process here. And I think, you know, for, for people who are confused, I think it would help a lot if you really want to understand where I'm coming from here because I, I provide all of the, all of the scriptural references and, and you'll see, you'll see what I mean. Which you can get on Amazon, by the way.
- [137:04]
David Lee Corbel
Yeah, I, we actually have your links in the, in the description for all the videos here. So I have the book right here. Please go pick that up. I, I, you're probably working on other stuff. Tell the people where they could find you and anything else that you want to let them know.
- [137:22]
Timothy Albarino
I have a website, Timothy Albrino.com YouTube channel Timothy Alvarino Instagram at Timothy Albrino and X at Timothy Albrino. Those are the places you can find me. Subscribe to my mailing list, my email list on my website. I've got some stuff coming out soon, some, some new stuff. I've been working on a lot of stuff and I've got some exciting projects that I'm, I'm concluding and that are going to be released before long. So subscribing to my YouTube channel is also a great way to, all of it, the social media stuff and, and the mailing email list. If you, if you want to follow me?
- [138:05]
David Lee Corbel
Absolutely. Yeah, guys, please do. I know I get a lot of. I. I get a lot of worth out of following you and what you're doing. And I'm glad to see that you're, like even more active on X. I feel like that's where a lot of the new dialogue is going to be taking place. And again, thank you for coming and talking to us. You probably shouldn't have.
- [138:26]
Timothy Albarino
I knew I liked you guys immediately when I saw your intro.
- [138:30]
David Lee Corbel
Hell yeah. Yeah, we like Vinnie, Padman.
- [138:33]
Top Lobsta
We always trick people on the way in.
- [138:35]
Timothy Albarino
Yeah, David, it's my pleasure.
- [138:38]
David Lee Corbel
Thanks for having me on at any time. I mean, if you have anything new, hopefully we can grow the show to a point where it's even more respectable for. For someone like you to come on and maybe we can introduce you to people that don't know you for some reason that if they know us and not you. But anytime. Again, guys, end of the month, catch us with. We're doing a show with Sam tripoli. Go to toplopsa.com follow us on social medias. David, anything?
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Timothy Albarino
Yeah.
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Top Lobsta
Don't forget to go to Sam tripoli.com click on March 30th. Come see us in Summerfield and don't forget to go to our patreon.com nephilimdeathsquad Sign up for our super secret show which is going to be. We have to announce when that's going to happen. Super secret show on Patreon only. And also our telegram. Come hang out with us. We've developed quite an awesome community there. I love that little group. It's growing every day and it's really cool. So if you want to be a part of the conversation, come hang out with us in telegram. That's it.
- [139:35]
David Lee Corbel
Absolutely. All right, guys, Peace out.
- [139:37]
Timothy Albarino
All right.
- [139:37]
Top Lobsta
The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is.
- [139:40]
Timothy Albarino
A oblong box in the corner of of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see because they'll lack in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening. And they have.