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Nephilim Death Squad
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Where it all began: David Corbo and TopLobsta dive into a no-holds-barred conversation that gave birth to the Nephilim Death Squad podcast. From unraveling conspiracies to debating the supernatural, this groundbreaking discussion became the catalyst...
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Conspiracy Theorist
Are being hypnotized by people like this. News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely incredible.
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Top Lobster
Oh yeah, dude, there's some nephilim shit.
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David
It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit. What happened to the home of the brave? These mother taking tons now when no one's talking about how they made us try to be slaves and everybody's just walking around head in the closet, wanna wake up to a dead in the grave fighting.
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Public Investing Representative
It's too late.
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David
We need to be ready to raise up. Welcome to the end of days, everybody.
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Top Lobster
Well, well, well, here we are again. Another episode of the Top Lobster Show. And this is going to be a simulcast or a swap cast, however we want to call it. We. You were actually messaging me before that. You kind of wanted to do like a big. A conglomeration of. Of the meeting of minds of people and have like a. Have like a. Like a really cool, like, you know, a mixing of whatever we believe and whatever we think. And I think that that's a good idea. So this could be the start of something really cool. I'm excited. I'm joined by David, host of the Ravens Watch. Tell us a little bit about yourself. I'm sure that a lot of my. A lot of my audience has probably seen me retweet you at least.
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David
Yeah, I appreciate that. By the way. It's always nice to get a little love from people that you respect. So I have been a podcaster for probably like seven years, but I stuck primarily to comedy and I was always immersed behind the scenes and sort of conspiracy theories and the paranormal. And I never pulled the trigger on it. And I think I was just kind of being a bitch about it and I didn't want to. I thought it wasn't going to be well received. So I figured instead of harassing like my immediate family about, you know, the Illuminati and lizard people in Bigfoot, that I would finally take to the Internet and do it. And so far it's been well received. So the Ravens Watch is a combination of people who are experts in their field, whether it be something occult or esoteric, something conspiratorial, or people who have had personal experiences that are paranormal or supernatural.
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Top Lobster
Nice. Speaking of. So this, my show doesn't really cover this the conspiratorial as much. What are your, what are your thoughts on Maui? What's going on in Hawaii?
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David
So, so Maui for sure. You know, you had Biden just kind of use that, that verbiage of laser focus, right, when he's talking about the whole Maui situation. And then you have this weird shit where Mountain Dew, right, do being an acronym for direct energy weapons. And they've got all these cryptic kind of apocalyptic flavors. You know, whatever, it's Code Red or Maui Burst or something like that. So as far as I'm concerned, it looks to me like they, they leveled Maui and they're going to turn it into a smart city. And these people like Oprah and these, these big named elites, they've already got their claws in the corpse of Maui. It's still smoldering and they've already got plans for it. And if you watch the videos, man, these people are all saying the weirdest shit. I know it's easy to Photoshop a beam of light, you know, next to a fire or a burning building. So I can't say definitively that those pictures are real. But you, you combine that with how, you know, we just gave Ukraine billions of dollars and all sudden we can't do anything but give these poor people in Hawaii 700 bucks. And I think that it's just clear the board and let the elites move in. I think that's what's going on.
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Top Lobster
I did see that the 700 is like, it's like, I guess their version of the little stimulus check. You're like, hey, you know, hold that. You could buy some spam with that or whatever the. You guys do in Hawaii, man. You know, it really, that one got my conspiracy bone going because I really, I've been, I've been like, not drawing away from it, but like just more interested in, in other things. But I do see this stuff and I saw that and I was like, oh, like, I want to believe everything they're saying about it. But in the end of the day, it could be direct energy weapons. It could just have been a natural disaster. And, you know, compiled with everything else, like all the other and bad planning that happened. But what's definitely true is it's a money grab or a land grab at least, like you were saying that I know for sure in the end. So we'll see how this all plays out. I'm. I'm pretty sure, pretty sure that those people are going to be screwed. And we were actually talking about Owen Benjamin before in the chat, but he brought Up a good point. These were the same people that were horrible on Covid, that were just rule followers, get the vaccine, do what they say, wear the mask. And now look at how that's repaid you. So it's kind of, I'm not, I, I wouldn't celebrate it, but it's. It's kind of like, all right, I'm not going to come out to really defend you either. Take your 700 bucks and, and go to fucking New York or wherever they're going to fly you to next. That's it.
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David
Yeah. I used to live in Las Vegas, and when I was in Vegas, there was a bunch of people that would often protest about just kind of the. There was a lot of, I don't know what you would call it, people leaving Hawaii because of how expensive it got. And these folks were out on the, on the corners with picket signs and they're talking about the price of everything and how bad it's gotten and how, you know, basically Hawaii is becoming the sanctuary for the elite. They're buying up all the land, they're driving up the prices of everything and they're driving the locals out. And I don't know, man, that's kind of the last straw on the camel's back. I think the locals are out. I think that's it.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, they burnt, they burned them. If you don't leave after that, that's like after the Jewish space lasers. You're like, yo, you know what? I think I'm going to rebuild somewhere else.
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David
Yeah. Yeah. When Mountain Dew has plans to level your farm and it, and it comes true, it's time to slide.
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Top Lobster
I think it's just so incredible. And you know what? I believe the Mountain Dew thing I saw, I saw something else about Trump recently with the Space Force, and I'm just like, hold on. You know what, man? Sign me up. I'm like, I'm ready to put that back in my veins. It's been three years since I've heard any kind, any kind of crazy ass conspiracies like this. And I'm just like, you know what? At this point, whatever, let's.
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David
I like the crazy ones, man. I see you, you're kind of, you know, in this, in the trenches with a broadsword, swinging it around in these kind of political corners. And I, and I like what you do because it's really just dunking on people, but, like, I can't even be in the political realm. The, the jargon is so fucking boring. I just want, I want Mountain Dew satellites Shooting lasers at Hawaiian people. That's what I. I want that more than I want to listen to about Biden. You know, I have my. My politics that I listen to, but I don't talk about it because it's. It's so boring. I want lizard people, man. I want cool. I don't want Biden falling up and down the stairs.
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Top Lobster
I want Nephilim. I want fallen angels. I want the days of Noah. This. You're right. It's boring. It's so boring. That's what. Sometimes they still come to my Twitter page and they're like, hey, Top, what do you think about the non aggression principle? And I'm like, why. Why are you asking me? Have you not been seeing what I've been doing lately? It's completely schizophrenic. My body of work has been tremendous the last year, and you're going to ask me about what I think about this. This new policy? I don't care. Like, I agree. I'd be drinking Mountain Dew right now. Look, I'm drinking Canada Dry. I hate Canada, but I'd be drinking Mountain Dew right now. If they put their fucking name on their. Their space laser and said, yeah, we did it and we'll do it again, I'd be like, hell, yeah.
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David
If they came out, dude, and they admitted it, I'd have to. Just off of principle, I'd have to go and grab a code red because just. Just the balls that it tastes to go like, yeah, dude, we've been putting all that Mountain Dew money into space lasers. And we did what we said we were going to do. You just didn't read the cans. I'd be like, fuck, man. That's Revelation of the method.
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Top Lobster
We burned it. Wasn't it extreme? You're like, yeah, it was kind of extreme, actually. I like that.
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David
Gnarly.
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Top Lobster
Oh, yeah, that's on brand for me. But. All right, enough of the small talk, man. We. You have some. You have some, like, really interesting stories. We've been talking for a long time. Before I started the show, maybe even before you started your show, you were just, like, interested in some of the. What I've been like, I like what you're putting down. I was like, I like what you're putting down. So you were telling me some stuff, and I kind of want you to get into it and let's go wherever this conversation goes. I know you have a couple of story. A couple of stories, but I want to hear what you're saying. Take your time. Tell the story. And I might interrupt you because I might have some questions. So tell me what's going on in your life? What has happened to you?
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David
So I never really looked at my life as being very paranormal, right until I started doing the show. And I laid out a couple of stories on the first episode. And I think what happens is there's so much space between events that you don't look at your life as being supernatural or, you know, having these experiences, but when you put them all next to each other and you get rid of all the gaps of time in between, you realize, like, okay, yeah, maybe shit was a little weird. So as far as I can remember, you know, some of my earliest memories were of strange things. My grandmother, she was a medium and she had sort of crystal balls and things of that nature. And I would find out later on in life that she. She thinks she was abducted by aliens on a regular basis since childhood. And it really, you know, deeply disturbed her.
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David
Cocktail I used to live in this house in Elizabeth, New Jersey, and it was the first house on Railway Avenue. And for those of you that don't know, Raway Avenue was, like, the main road in Elizabeth. And this house was old, man. Like really old. It looked like a castle when I was a kid. I'm sure now it doesn't. Although it's a lawyer's office now. When I was a kid, it was creepy. You know, big pine trees in the front, casting shadows constantly on the house, lion statues. And the front entrance and everything about it was real old. And I have this aunt, and we would later find out that she was schizophrenic. So in that context, this makes a little bit more sense. But one day I'm hanging out, my aunt is watching me and her two kids, and she tells me I must have been, like, 4 or 5 years old. She tells me to go and get the silverware drawer, which is a weird request, but I remember it really well. So I go to the kitchen and I kind of work the drawer out. And as I'm walking back to her, all of a sudden, I hear a woman's voice. But I don't hear it with my ears. Like, I. You know, it was so clear that I. I knew that I hadn't heard this with my ears. And this story stayed in the back of my mind. I'm 33 now, and so I think I finally made the cut for, like, if schizophrenia was gonna be a thing. I'm good now. But I was worried, man, for. For a long time that I was going to have some sort of episode because of this. So I hear this. This woman's voice.
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Top Lobster
Is that really, like. Like the science behind it because. Or is that just bro science? We just say, let's go with that.
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David
Gotta be bro science. But it's. It's my understanding that there is a window from, like, 23 to, like. I think it may be, like, 29 or 30, something like that. And if I'm off, it's only by a couple of years. And it's basically where. If you have a propensity for schizophrenia, then it's going to manifest within that time frame. And also, if you have, you know, latent schizophrenia, even smoking weed can trigger it, apparently. So these are all things that I read because I was. I was afraid of this, and I smoked a lot of weed. And that was on purpose. It was for science. I was like, I'm gonna find out if I'm schizophrenic I'm gonna. I'm smoking up weed. I'm gonna find out, and nothing ever happened. And so, like, I can't even tell you, like, how much of a kind of relief it is because you just. You never know, because her kids, they got it. And this is my mom's sister, you know, so this voice, it's a woman's voice as I'm holding this drawer full of silverware. And it goes. It just kind of without emotion, it goes, you're gonna drop it. And it was so loud and clear. And I remember the very next thing that happened was kind of like, I don't know, this. This noise, like a. And reality became distorted and started to twist. And I did drop that, and the whole hallway kind of twisted, and everything went dark. I dropped the silverware drawer, and my aunt pops up, and she, as far as I'm remembering, kicked the shit out of me. It wasn't like a super brutal ass whooping, but, you know, I got, like, a spanking or whatever for dropping the thing. And so that house that I was living in, there was always these rumors that it was haunted, especially after my grandmother passed, which was either that year or the next year. Any kind of bump would be explained away as, like, oh, that's just Grandma. She's just chilling, just stomping around upstairs. And as a kid, you're like, it's soothing, but also, you know, disturbing at the same time. But that was kind of the earliest thing that I could remember, and it was impactful enough. And mind you, like, I'm in a house where my grandmother thinks she's being abducted, and my aunt is schizophrenic. She's, you know, told me where. She's like, I see the devil, and I can smell the devil. And I'm like, well, what's the devil smell like?
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Top Lobster
She.
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David
And she said sulfur and. And rotting flesh or some like that. Like, that's what she would tell me. So there's a lot of weird going on there.
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Top Lobster
But, you know, but I will tell you, like. So you said you had a. Like, this kind of. When you dropped the silverware, you felt like the earth was like. Like just morphing or. I would get that, too, when I was a. When I was a child. But I remember every time I'd get it, I'd be sitting there watching the Yankee game with my dad and my uncle. They'd be behind me, and I would hear, like, John Sterling or Michael K. Whoever's talking, and it would. It would Turn into, like, this. It's hard to explain. It was like a morphing, like, inner ear type of thing. And it was very disorienting. And it's one of those things where I'm like, either something like, either I'm dying or this just happens, and that's fine. But I. I'm not sure what to make of it, but it almost felt like, like. Like kind of like hearing into, like, another. Another dimension or like another. A frequency that I wasn't supposed to be hearing. And as I got older, that stopped. I guess my third eye kind of closed. But it is interesting to. To hear like. Like that kind of experience come coming from someone else. It could have been. Who knows? Yeah.
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David
Yeah. You know, there's that whole expression of, like, kids are more sensitive.
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Top Lobster
Yeah.
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David
And so. And then you kind of said, like, you know, your third eye closing. I do think that something happens. I don't know if it's the rigidity of society and. And sort of logic taking over the brain that shuts that other part off. Like, I remember I had a dream when I was a kid that I. I was glowing. Like, I had a sheen to me, like a golden sheen. And I was actually in Florida, where I am now, and I'm, like, climbing up this ladder into the sky. And when I. I don't know if it was the same dream or if it was a separate day. And I had another dream where I came back down, but I wasn't shiny anymore. And the way I. I kind of quantified that, I was like. Maybe that was because I was, like, 6 when I had that dream. It's like, maybe that's when logic kicks in. You know, maybe that's the beginning of you kind of closing that connection. Because at some point it has to go away, Right? They say kids have this connection to the other side or the spiritual realm or whatever it is. And it doesn't last forever, clearly. Unless you're some unfortunate dude who's still seeing dead people. But, you know, I think that maybe there is something that happens, and I kind of equate it to school. It's like when you sit down in the rigidity of school and you finally give in. Like, you know, you're showing up here every day. You know, math is important now. You know that you have to read and you have to write. And once you accept that, I think that's when it really starts to change for you. But that's a.
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Top Lobster
That's an interesting thought, because school. School, along with, like, other kind of Government, government programs like, I don't know, maybe fluoride in the water or the, the slow poisoning of your food or like, why, why would there be toxins in a receipt that every time you grab it, it just like increases your. It disrupts your endocrine. Endocrine system. There's no, there's no reason for it. You can make paper and ink much cheaper. It doesn't have to be toxic. But it's like, you start to really think, like it's probably all is, you know, a concerted effort to, to cover that or thicken that, that veil, you know, put another veil in between you and wherever you were as a child. So maybe just like prolonged exposure to whatever they're shooting in the air, it's like that kind of closes you off. I. I've been, I've been thinking about that a lot lately. When you, when you think about like fallen angels, Nephilim, and, and what the point of what, what Lucifer is trying to do here or what the devil is trying to do here is all he's trying to do is subvert what God created. That's the best he can hope for. He can take some souls with them. In the end, he knows he won't win. But for now, he could just make things as miserable as possible. So every little drop of sand that kind of separates us from the spiritual world or, or that our third eye is staying open and kind of experiencing these other things. I'm like, you know, it's the Jews. It's. It's some, it's somebody it there. But. But it's not, it's not all random coincidence. It seems like a concerted effort to constantly close, close people's eyes more and more. And now nowadays they've just gotten crazy with it where they're like, here, put this poison. Take a hamburger. You know, here's a hundred dollars or whatever. It's like, it's just. It's ridiculous. That's my, that's my theory. So I think, I think you're onto something there.
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David
Yeah. You know, it's funny. I won't even touch receipts. I get mad, like, I'll kind of like a psychopath. I'll grab them, I'll pinch them, and then I'll put the shit like in the plastic bag, you know? And I get mad if the Walmart dude makes me pull it back out to show him. These are precious seconds, bro. I don't know how long it takes for this shit to seep into my bloodstream. I think what they're banking on is for you to put that bitch in your pocket. And, you know, now it's pressed up against your leg and you're, you know, it's hot out and everything. And so that shit is seeping into you. But I think in regards to the whole, you know, Satan's plan, when I was a kid, I became so obsessed with conspiracy theories and I always had that problem of who is they? You know, every would say that who's they? Who's the they that's doing this? That's putting chemtrails, that's doing that. And it was like, you can't pin it down to one organization or something like that. The only thing that would be able to execute a plan this well thought out and this, this long of a game with this many elements at play.
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David
My opinion, is the devil. There's no way that you're. And I wasn't a religious person up until pretty recently, and it was because all this shit led me to believe that. I'm like, there's nobody. There's nobody. I don't care who it is. Biden has not got the longevity. He's never going to see the fruits of his labor, you know, from a. For a program or a deception that started so long ago and that's still going on now and is still going to continue into the future. Men come and go, but. But something else doesn't.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, it's. I mean, it goes back to the. To the Garden of Eden. It's like, well, what was the point of deceiving Eve? It's just. It's just constant. Constant, like inception. Constant. What's. What's the correct word? Just. Just like throwing a monkey wrench in. In whatever humans are doing. And God's kind of like. That's the interesting, interesting thing about God, in my view, because I. I was religious then I kind of fell away from the church, and then I sort of got back into it. And in, like, 2018, when this is, like, all over the place. But when the IDW started, remember that? The dark web, Intellectual dark web with all these. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I kind of rejected Sam Harris correctly. Kind of went the Jordan Peterson route, which is why you have the top lobster name. And.
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David
No, I was guessing that. I guess that I was like, this motherfucker read Peterson. And this is a Peterson thing. That's.
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Top Lobster
I only read one chapter, the first chapter, and I stopped. That's all you need to know. I read that in the forward. I was like, I can't really read. But these ideas kind of got me drawn closer to the idea of God because I was. I was very mad at the church. I was. There's a whole thing. I'll tell the story one day. Anyway, so it got me back into God, but I was believing the Bible in a. In a. Like a metaphorical sense. Whereas if you've ever seen any of Peterson's lectures where he goes through Genesis, and now I think he does Exodus as well. He breaks it down, and you can really read every scripture. And he. And he. He breaks it down at a psychological level, and it's fascinating, and there's a lot that you could learn from that. And I was like, oh, that's what the Bible is. It's. It's a thing that's here, and it's lessons passed down. So we should read them because they still pertain to today. And I think I'm still right. That is 100, right? Jordan Peterson is right. Yes. But I didn't believe that the Bible was a literal thing. Like, I was like, oh, Jonah, in the belly of the whale. He would have surely been dissolved, you know, by the stomach acids and all. I was like, maybe, or maybe you're an idiot and this world is more fantastical than you can imagine. Maybe, just maybe, maybe my tiny little brain can't fathom what is possible because God would want it to be possible. So that kind of opened up my eyes to what. What we're doing here. And I don't even know where I started. So please pick me up. I'm lost.
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David
Well, no, bro, it's funny because as you're saying that, I'm like, God damn. Like, we went through a very similar thing because I was very much into Peterson. I have 12 rules for life and then 12 more rules to antidote for chaos or whatever it was. And I very much bought into this idea of, like, oh, the Bible is an amalgamation of allegories and metaphors that are, you know, very intertwined with how to be in this realm. Right. In order to. What does he always say? It's like, that's what's good for you, but it's good for your family, and it's good for your block, and it's good for your community, and it's good for the whole world. Like, you got to think in that sort of a way. And so I could see that. I subscribe to that, too. But then I think another thing you and I have in common is Tony Merkel, who does the confessionals. And it's like the guy. Once you listen to enough paranormal testimonies from people and you start to see nuggets of consistencies, meaning, like, patterns, right? These people, what did they share in common in their experience? Well, there's a lot of elements that people who have paranormal experiences share in common. And that starts to suggest that it's much less of a personal experience that's just caused by, you know, your own psyche, your own hallucinogenic state, because you're in sleep paralysis, whatever the hell it is. There's something else going on. And that coupled with the whole. The symbolism is everywhere. It's in the music, it's. It's. In the movies. It's. It's all over Hollywood. The elites are always signaling with these different symbols. And you start to put these things together in a pile on the floor, and you stare at it, and this pile is in the shape of the devil. And so, you know, if you. If you. If you have that side of the coin, well, Then the other side is, is surely real as well. And so, yeah, I think where I deviate from Peterson these days is that now there's, it's, it's an alchemical, symbolic book. And it, it does have these allegories and it does have these metaphors, but I think it's incredibly sophisticated because it's several things at once. It's not just allegories and it's not just a historical telling. It's. It is like people say, like, the Bible is alive. And I used to be like, that is such a fucking silly thing. It's a book, bro. But like, I see now what they mean. It's not a one dimensional thing. It's not just words on a page. There is. And then you take into consideration the numerical value of everything, right? Like gematria and everything.
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Top Lobster
Yeah.
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David
And then it's like, holy shit, this. There's something really wild about this book. And so, yeah, I think it's just funny to hear you say Peterson. And it's funny because I did. I was like, is that what the fucking lobster thing is? Is he, is he part of the dominance hierarchy?
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Top Lobster
I'm at the top of the baby boy. There you go, bro. I'm killing it up here.
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David
So I want to get into one of these other stories because it's, you know, we got about, what, 45 minutes left. So.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, before, before you go, I wanted to bring up the Tony Merkel thing again. It was, it's, it's very interesting about that, that one guy, because my faith, I thought my faith was good. My faith is even stronger. And, and it's not even from going to church. It's. It's hearing that guy's testimony because he's, he's talking to all kinds of people and he's still coming at it from this Christian point of view, rationalizing it in the, in terms of, you know, in. Under the lens of a Christian. And it just makes the most sense of anything that I've seen. And now, like you said, I've seen the other side of it and I know for sure there's something more going on. You know, people will be like, oh, we have to, you know, so hand wave. The spirituality aside, there's, what about this? What about that? And I just look at them. I laugh or I'll mock them online because it's so obvious now after, after Covid, it's like this world is so completely spiritual. If you don't know, if you're not sensing this now, it might be too late. You Might be one of those people that are just going to be lost in the ether. You're. You're behind it. But. So go ahead, tell us more about your. Your spiritual story, your journey there.
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David
Well, before I do, I just want to say I agree entirely with that. And that last sentiment worries me a little bit. Right? Is it like, is the gate closed? Can we get anybody new on the hook? Or are we only getting people that are already half in, half out? And then you can convince those folks? Because I. I do think that as things kind of come to a head there, there's going to be a huge body of people that just are gonna deny until their last breath. You know what I mean? And I don't know what. That's why I'm happy to do the show. I'm happy to do the Ravens Watch because, you know, the. The whole job of the show is kind of shine a light on the darkness and show people, like, there's a lot to all this. And it's not just conspiracy theory. It's not just meant to be thrown away, and it's not just new age spirituality. Like, no, there is a paranormal biblical context. You could look at these things through. But so one of the real big things that I would say, this is a huge one for me. It felt really personal. It felt like this was one of the first things that showed me the world is way stranger than I had imagined. And, you know, as a teenager, I. I can't speak for everybody, but I feel like I can speak for, like, teenage dudes. We want, like, mystery and adventure. We want. We want pussy, we want weed, and we want mystery and adventure. Right? And so I had this. This set of circumstances show up on my doorstep one day, and it felt like this big call to adventure. So when I was a kid, my mom dated a guy. He was basically my stepdad. They stayed together for nearly 10 years. And his mother was, for all intents and purposes, my grandmother. She was an awesome lady. Her name was Barbara. And she was, like, to this day, my moral compass. Like, she really was focused on raising me into a good person. And she had this story that she would share with me. And it's funny. It's actually one of the things I noticed in your. In your first episode with your aunt, she. She dropped something. I had to hit you up. I was like, bro, this is. I know what she's talking about. So basically, she would tell me these stories.
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Top Lobster
She said that that's what she saw.
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Top Lobster
I think she said that the hat was slightly smaller, but yes, there's, there's variations to them.
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David
I had like a dude on just yesterday and then I had another person on episode four and they described this guy, he's similar but he has a slight outfit change. But a lot of people that are in the paranormal kind of world are familiar with this term. But he used to tell me or she used to tell me stories of the hat man. So what would happen to Barbara? And this is pre Internet, right? We didn't have the ability to like go and find a community of people who had these experiences. She didn't know anything. There was books written about it or nothing like that. She's old school lady, Polish lady from Elizabeth, New Jersey, like you know, just tough as nails, but had weird stories. So she would tell me these stories. She'd wake up in the middle of the night and she'd be unable to move and she'd be filled with terror and there would be a man standing in her room. If he's in the doorway, if he's in the corner of the room, if he's at the foot of her bed, it's always the same dude. And it's this guy in sort of a duster coat and a wide brimmed hat, kind of like a fedora, not quite a cowboy hat, somewhere in between, but. And you couldn't see his face and you couldn't see any features, really. You could just see the silhouette. And so she would tell me these stories. They were horrifying. I was like 8 years old. I have an 8 year old now. I'm not telling him this, but she didn't have any reservations. She told me. And one of the stories in particular was about how one night she had a sister and they shared a room, and in the same night they saw the entity. So they didn't communicate with one each other because what would happen was they would often kind of just be frozen in fear with the blanket over their face. And they'd stay like that until either the sun came up or they fell asleep. So they weren't really like popping their heads out and being like, do you see this? Like, they were terrified.
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Top Lobster
Yeah.
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David
And they're talking about it one morning at the breakfast table and they're kind of doing it in hushed tones. And I think it's just, you know, they probably thought their mom was going to dismiss it or something like that. And then suddenly the mom chimes in and she says she saw it too. In the same night, separate bedroom. So as a kid, I don't take this in. In a. Not that I had the ability to, but I certainly didn't take it in a psychological way. You don't see a thing. And then have two other people confirm it, and one of them is your mother in the next bedroom over. You know, so to me, this is a real thing. And she said she saw it into adulthood. So fast forward a little bit to about 16 years old and my mom and this guy are no longer together. And I'm. I'm talking to an aunt of mine and she's saying that my grandmother, who passed away when I was six, she used to have these. These episodes where this bright white ball of light would rise up in her bedroom window at night and she'd be unable to move and she'd start screaming for her mother. And by the time mom got upstairs, the light would go away as if it was playing a game on her. And, you know, they would leave and then a couple of minutes later the thing would come back. And so that's all I had to start with. But what my aunt told me was, oh, and there was a book she read and she thinks that the book explained her experiences. But she begged your. My mother, her daughter, not to read it.
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Top Lobster
So what's the name of the book?
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David
I go to my. Well, that's number one, right? Number one. I'm like, what's the name of the book? So I go to my mom, I ask her, she spills it, no problem. And it's called Communion by Whitley Striber. So they made a movie out of it. Christopher Walkins is in it. He's the main guy. And. And so I set out to Barnes and Nobles, and I, you know, I'm like a six tag. I know money. So I steal the thing. And I never had sought out a book on my own. I was basically, you stole it.
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Top Lobster
So you didn't have to touch the receipt. Just.
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David
That's because they were doing the receipt paper. And I was like, no, dude, I'm not doing that. But I never had sought out a book on my own. You know what I mean? I'm 16 years old. I had no intentions of reading anything, but this was really interesting to me. So I read this thing, and it's basically this guy collecting firsthand encounters, people's testimonies of alien abductions. But it's got all the same elements that Barbara told me. And that's what really threw me for a loop. Barbara and my grandma never met. They didn't know each other, right? So we have the paralysis, right? When you're getting abducted, there's a paralysis. There's the presence of shadow beings, shadow people. And this is all really familiar stuff to people who are into this sort of thing. I've heard this ad nauseam. By this point, there's often an inexplicably bright white light. So there's all these connections, right? And then I think even in the book.
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Top Lobster
And lost time, yeah, there was a.
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David
Lot of lost time. Now, Barbara or my grandma hadn't really described lost time, although my grandmother, she died when I was sick, so I never really got to ask her anything, these questions. But Barbara, she didn't describe lost time. She just described this menacing dude in a duster coat. It looks like Zorro. You remember the old Zorro? Was that Antonio Bandeira Banderas? Yeah. I fucking love that movie. I saw it recently, had three stars. I was like, three stars? This was solid.
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David
I'm seeing all these connections in the book and I'm like, I gotta take to the Internet and start trying to figure this out. And the whole thing is basically, you know, you're being abducted. That's what the it is. And I had, for those of you listening, on episode four, I had an author, her name was Vicki Joy Anderson, and she's an expert in sleep paralysis and shadow entities. And she said some deeply upsetting. I'm not going to spoil it for anybody. If you want to go listen, go check it out. It's episode number four. But at the end when she starts to say what it means to have these experiences, it's not great.
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Top Lobster
So I missed this episode. So. God damn it.
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David
Okay, yeah, you gotta check it out. And your aunt, if she's interested, because you know, she talks a lot about the hat man in this episode. So basically I start to see all these connections and I take to the Internet and I find thousands and thousands of people having the same experience. So this is where it gets even weirder. I, I, I recognize the potential for this being a psychological experience. Right. I get that your body is going to put you in a state of paralysis so that you don't act out your dreams. I also get that waking up in that state might make you afraid because it's new. And I know that you're on the cusp of sleep. And so there's a hallucinogenic aspect to dreams. Maybe you could be projecting images around the room in the shadows. I'm aware of all this. I'm also aware that the more you look into this, you're gonna have a nightmare about it. You know what I mean? Like, it's like if you're watching nothing but Freddy Krueger movies, you're gonna have a Freddy Krueger nightmare eventually.
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Top Lobster
Well, it's.
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David
Which.
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Top Lobster
It's also that. Have you considered this when you started your show? The reason I didn't start my show as quickly as I did, number one, that guy Jinx is a dick. He said, you know, he was working on a video for me that didn't pan out, but it was also the hesitancy to start it because it's. This is a door that you're opening, you know, and I'm fully aware that it's like, do I want to look on the other side of this door? And obviously, the answer is yes. But what. What looks back? What comes back? Are you. Are you in a good place mentally, spiritually to do this? So, yeah, that's. That's a big thing. Even people like listening to this. Once you're. Once your mind is open to this stuff, you are now. You're now sending out a signal that, like, not. Not just to other people, but to other dimensions, probably other things that, like, this person is a beacon. They're. They're aware of what's going on here, you know, and it's. It's one of these lines that you got to walk because if you're not aware of what's going on here, then you're vax to the max and you're probably dead at 30. Heart attack, or, you know, just. Or just an NPC walking aimlessly thinking that, you know, God's not real, the Bible's fake, or this is all, you know, we live in a. In infinitesimal space, and we're just a speck. That's not the truth either. So which way? Which way, Western men? Which way do you want to go? I. I've chosen.
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David
Yeah, It's. It is a slippery slope. And since I've started doing the show, things have in some ways ramped up. But When I say ramped up, I mean, like, there's a hierarchy to these entities. And I think I've seen some before and then I've seen some lower end stuff, kind of shadow people. So my dreams have gotten a little bit weird and I've had some experiences around the house, but I don't make any sort of illusions about it. Like if anything's going wrong, I invoke the name of Christ and I try to be right with God. We all falter. And so I'm better other times than I am, you know, sometimes. But I do think that it wasn't really hesitancy because of the, the fear of sort of staring into the abyss and the abyss staring back. It was really hesitancy because I didn't know that I was equipped to talk about it. You know, like, I can speak well and I can regurgitate some information. But like, when you see the caliber of people that are in the space that know their, and do their homework, I, I had these sort of reservations about like, what do I have to offer? And I realize that I'm not offering me, I'm offering the guests. So if you watch my show, it's very much guest centric. Like I don't really chime in. I let them do their thing. I took that note from Tony Merkel. I think he does a fantastic job of that is like letting people share their testimony. So. And then if I recognize somebody needs a hand with the conversation, I'll pop in. So the show is not about me, and I think that's how I got over that hump. But honestly, the main way, the main function is, is going with Christ, invoking the name of Christ, trying to live right. Because I don't think you're in much of a good solid standing to invoke the name of Christ if you just suck ass and you're not doing the right thing. But I think the other thing about it too is like, if not this, then what else? Like, what are we doing here? You know, we pretend that this is not a spiritual realm, that this isn't, you know, a sort of a place of spiritual warfare. Some of us pretend that, and then those of us who know that that's true, well, then you have a problem. You know that, right? You know that this is spiritual warfare. You see all The, I, since 16 years old, I'm looking at conspiracy theories and symbols and all this crap and Illuminati this and Reptilians that. And like, you don't, I don't think you get to know, for example, myself personally. I didn't. I'm not allowed to know what I know and not partake. You know what I mean? It feels hypocritical. It's like there's an arena, and I'm. I'm opting out of the arena. Like, I don't even believe. I believe that politics is sort of a rubber mask, you know, and that it's. It's a. It's a puppeteering dance. And then behind the politics, there's something much more nefarious going on. And I have that on good authority. It's not just like a hunch that I have. And so if I. If I think that within myself I know that, then who am I to opt out? That. That's like the biggest pussy move in my book is like, all this that I know. You know, if you bump into me in a supermarket and you want to shoot small talk, you'll be entirely underwhelmed by me. But if you bump into me somewhere and all sudden you start talking this. You're gonna be like, oh, my God, this guy. I have useless. What I thought was useless information. And this is the only context in which I'm useful outside of, you know, welding and being a husband and a father. Like, this is. I'm. I'm a. If I opt out. So I think that that's really where it comes from. But, you know, so like I was saying, I have this. This notion that, like, if I keep, like you said, looking into the abyss, it's going to look back at some point. But I also knew that that could just be. You know, I had dreams of Super Mario when I was a kid, and I played a lot of Super Mario. So, you know, it's hard to say which one's happening. So, sure enough, though, one night the does happen, and I wake up and I realize I'm paralyzed. And when you wake up in this state, like, your brain is. Is firing on all cylinders, which is the weird thing, you know, it's not like I wasn't drowsy. I was like, oh, this is happening. And I went through some stuff to kind of calm myself down. Like, all right, we expected this. And I'm looking around the room because your eyeballs work. You know, nothing else works. And suddenly I see the shadow of a man walk across my room. And as soon as that happens, I'm hit with this unbelievable layer of fear. Like, it doesn't even make sense how afraid I was. You know, I. We've all been in scary situations this was like. I can only equate it to, like, fear for my mortal soul. I was experiencing doom. Like the. The sensation of doom. And I was also experiencing this sensation of being electrocuted or. Or vibrating. Like a intense buzzing sound. Kind of locked my arms out, locked my legs out. This only lasts for like a two to three second count, right? I hit with this feeling.
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Top Lobster
You want to interject when. When I was younger. That's another thing that. It's like, the more I think about it, it is that, like, it's a light vibration, almost paralysis, but feeling like. Like I'm shaking, but I'm awake, I'm conscious, that my father and my uncle in the room. So, man, what the fuck happened? Yeah, okay, go ahead, go ahead.
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David
Well, they say that Vicki Joy Anderson, episode four, she talks about something that even the Confessionals has mentioned. It's like this infrasound thing. It's the beginning of it. This vibration is the beginning of something trying to happen to you. And for me, it was like I didn't have a option to. Somebody hit the button and it fully sent me. So I have this buzzing, I have this fear. And then suddenly I black out. I come back too, and I'm now on the opposite side of the bed. My girlfriend, who I was dating at the time, her feet are by my head, but everything looks right, the room still looks right. Everything's normal. And then all of a sudden, this massive, bright white light. Like, unbelievably bright. And this is shit you'll see over and over again. Like, you'll hear these descriptions over again, the buzzing, the light, you know, being moved around and shit. So this light comes pouring out of the closet. There's no light switch or nothing. There's no light bulb in there. And it's so bright, it. Once again, my body locks up, this electric buzzing sound happens, and then I pass out. And so that's literally the end of that experience. There's nothing left there. It's just. I wake up in the morning and I'm like, man, like, I thought it was gonna happen. And it did happen. But the only takeaway that I really have.
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Top Lobster
Why'd you think it was gonna happen?
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David
Because I was looking at the. So much like, I became. I get obsessive over things. So, like, it works really well for learning. Like, I taught myself how to weld and, you know, I excelled at boxing and Muay Thai and all this. I grab onto something and I go really hard, and then I kind of like fall off of it and I Just know, like the way I sunk my teeth into this whole sleep paralysis, like I was anything that was there to absorb. In 2006, 2007, on the Internet. I absorbed it. I got it all. I covered everything. I watched every YouTube video I was up until like, you know, 2, 3 in the morning every night. Just the glow of the screen on my face. My girlfriend's behind me sleeping because I was. I was homeless from like 17 to about 21. And so I had all the time in the world. So I'm dating this girl and she's letting me crash at her place. And I'm just. I didn't have a computer, you know, I didn't have a cell phone or nothing. So she, her house was the portal to information. So while I was supposed to be dating this girl, I was just picking apart the seams of the, of this realm. You know what I mean?
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Top Lobster
Just haunting her house. Like the, the portal. The portal. Again, like this is a very Tony Merkel thing. It's an interesting word to use there. And my, my aunt brought it up. She doesn't watch any of this, but she had said right in the beginning she was like, I feel like, I feel like I'm like a portal to these things. And when she said that, I was like, oh, you know, I was like, here we go. Like we're about to hear something. It's very it. Maybe, maybe like you opening yourself up to the stuff, studying it, you are creating like some kind of beacon. Like you're, you know, we are, I think we are special in a way where we, we probably can do this. We probably knew how to do this, forgot how to do this. But when you start to look into this stuff, something in your brain might open up and that might open up some kind of small portal. And then these guys are just like, oh, portal here, I'm just going to go ahead and pass on through. What's going to pass through? Who the hell knows? But that's. It seems an awful, like an awful lot like what you're describing. And at least it kind of like coincides with my theory there.
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David
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David
You know, I had this guy on yesterday. His. The episode's going to drop soon. His name is Paul of Understanding Conspiracies and the. I never done an episode with somebody where I felt so stupid and so inarticulate. Like he was just so good. I was like, you want my show, dude? You want to just do my show? Because he was so good. He's. He. His content is amazing. And you should check out the episode when it drops because it's all about the Nephilim and this clown connection.
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Top Lobster
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David
He. And I know it sounds crazy, but he connects the. The aesthetic of the archetype of a clown to a Nephilim and how a clown is a symbol of a nephilim. And I know it sounds crazy. I can't. I can't verbalize it like he does. But what he said at the end was, these things will. Can be cast out in the name of Christ, right? But they will continually come back and try you. And until this emptiness inside you is filled with the Holy Spirit, they're going to try to be. They're. They're going to try to fill you, bro. They're gonna. They're gonna keep showing up. They're gonna keep trying to fill you unless you ask the Holy Spirit into yourself. And so that kind of makes sense to me because so much of this dark entity is about not letting it in. It always wants to get in. You have to give it permission, you have to open the door, you have to engage in dialogue with it. So there's something that it's trying to get into. And then of course, you know, it's. It's not a leap to think about things like possession and like that. But I thought that was really interesting. The way he put it was like, until you fill that, we all have a void in us. And until you fill it with the Holy Spirit, something is going to continuously try and you can continuously cast it out, but you're only. It's like your front door is kicked open and you got to continuously go and guard it, but you're not repairing the door. You know what I mean? And so, yeah, every night something's going to come and test you. And sure, you can send it packing, but it's going to keep trying until you fix the door.
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Top Lobster
So it's very interesting to think of these, These entities as. Because like, you know, you think of like a, a dark spirit or a passenger or whatever, maybe a demon even. And you're like, these things are wild. But they have these rules, these kind of mortal rules where like you must invite them in or in the Bible, I, I think it was a legion, the demon legion, where Jesus, Jesus sees him and he's like, what are you doing, man? And, and they have like, you know, they palaver, they have a conversation and he's like, I know the deal, I know who you are. Could you put me in those pigs? And he's like, yeah, sure, go on the pigs. And it's like there is like. It's not just like a wild thing. There's like an intelligence here and, and it's, it's funny to see people just completely ignore it, just move on with life and this is not happening, you know.
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David
Well, I think that's all by design, right? It's like crush you with every aspect of life, your. Your. Your finances and your work life and your, you know, just everything. Societal pressures. It's. It's really well crafted, you know, that's what there's. People of the school have thought of coincidence, you know, which is where you definitely get that whole. We all came from a. Something the size of the head of a pin and it exploded into everything that will ever exist. And it was just a coincidence that all these elements lined up and created. Okay, fine, yeah, you can have that. But from where I'm standing, It doesn't make sense for it to be coincidence. And then you have to kind of tip your hat to the really. One, the elegant design of the universe. But then two, the elegant design of the deception is fucking bananas, dude. Like, it's so well crafted, it works better than any well oiled machine you're ever going to come across. You know, I say it oftentimes because I, I think like the, the, the conspiracy community is so fractured, we're all arguing, like, is it Flat Earth? Is it Hollow Earth? Is the lizard people real? Are the aliens aliens? Are they demons? And we all, like, fight amongst each other. And I, I'm like, man, we're all victims to the greatest propaganda machine that the world has ever known. And there's never been one so sophisticated. And we're all subjected to it. But you only have 10 minutes, so you want to go. So I gotta get this story in because this is like, go ahead. Yeah, me. This is, I, I call it like the, the one thing I can contribute, right, like, to the community is my own testimony. And this is where I turned a corner and I was like, oh, yeah, Christ is real. So me and my family, my wife and my son, we. We pack up everything into a Hyundai Elantra and we drive from New Jersey to Las Vegas. So we're gonna go hack out a life in Las Vegas. It's 42 hours and we get there and everything's real cool. I land with my cousin. It's good to see him. Haven't seen him with a long time in a long time. And, you know, get a job and everything's pretty cool, but it just doesn't feel like home. And, you know, my wife misses her side of the family and I'm missing like, my friends and everything from back home. And then we end up having an illness in the family and it brings us back to New Jersey. And even though we had enough reason, I couldn't help but feel like I, I took advantage of that reason when it showed itself. Like, I was glad to see it. You're like, whoo, finally a reason so I don't have to be a. I can just say, oh, we had to go back. You know, that's what I felt like. I felt like I was defeated and I saw an out and I took the out. And so when we get back to New Jersey, we land with the in laws, and the in laws are Jehovah Witnesses, and it's real hard to. I wasn't raised religious and they don't like swearing and the conversation is very sterile and I don't do that. I'm so bad with that. I like a real conversation. I can't do that sterilized kind of formalities thing. And but this is all excuses. What I should have done was I should have just rose to the occasion, been a good son in law, you know, landed there for a little bit, got up on our feet and then got out into an apartment and thanked these wonderful people for giving us a place to stay and you know, taking care of us while we were there. Instead, like a bum, I like, I became a recluse and I went inward and I, I stayed in the room all day. So I'd go to work and I'd come back home. I'd go to the one bedroom that all of us are in. There's two air mattresses, one for my son, one for me and my wife. And I'm just playing red Dead Redemption 2 all day. And you know, nighttime rolls around, I go to sleep, wake up in the morning, rinse and repeat. I'm not having conversations. My son and my wife are downstairs with the family laughing and talking. My wife is embarrassed because I'm not there by her side. Instead I'm reclusive. I'm up in this. So, you know, you start to have all these things seep into you, right? Like anxiety and anger and depression, resent and all this shit, you know. And I think that those emotions, that state of mind, that's energy for these things to feed off. Today's episode is brought to you by purge store.com. what if I told you that more people have died from parasites than have ever died from war? What if I told you that diseases like cancer, multiple sclerosis, acne, rosacea and rheumatoid arthritis can all be treated with parasite medication. Rid your body of these all too common parasites by using Purge Parasite Cleanse. Purge Parasite Cleanse is made with ingredients like zinc, carrot powder, garlic, black walnut. These are all natural ingredients that keep you safe while killing the parasite parasites. 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So I pop up and I look out the window. Nobody's there at all. Like, all right, I've been into this shit my whole life, right? So I didn't even get to escape that one incident without being like, was that knocking on me? You know what I mean? Like, was something knocking on me? Because it wasn't knocking on the door. Nobody else noticed it. My wife didn't budge. Nobody in the house got up to check the door. So I go back to sleep. As soon as I doze off, boom, boom, boom, boom. I get up, there's nothing there. I look out the window. Nobody else notices it. Now I'm really kind of reinforcing that. Like, is somebody knocking on me? And I fall asleep. Happens a third time. This time I just pop my eyes open. Like, I'm not even. I'm not gonna get up. I know it's not real. I know now that it's me, it's not the door. I don't know what that means, you know, doing a lot of speculating. And it's hard to get back to sleep. But it. It's scary. That morning comes and I don't talk about it. 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Cocktail playing Red Dead Redemption is great fucking game. And I go to sleep that night, and now I'm waking up to it feels like something is pulling my arm off the bed and into the air. So I pull my arm back. I'm like, what the fuck? And I fall back asleep. I've obviously known about the first night and the knocking, right?
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Top Lobster
So now you're putting it together.
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David
Yeah. And it's. It's really upsetting. Like, it's really upsetting. So fall back asleep. Happens again. My arm gets pulled again, bro. It is the most. Like, I don't want to. I didn't want to think about any of this.
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Top Lobster
Like, it's a very dude thing to do. Like a guy thing. Like if you're sick, you're just kind of like, you know what? Like, I've been limping for a year and my knee might be broken, but I'm like, it, whatever. Maybe it'll get better. But I'm not going to the doctor.
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David
That's what it is. Now I just limp. This is how I walk.
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David
So it happens again to my arm, right? So that's two times on the arm. Now I tuck my arms under the blanket like a child. Right? Because I'm like. I can't. It's like you put the blanket over your head and it's like, nothing can kill me if I'm in a blanket, so nothing can pull my arm if it's in the blanket. So I got my arms bundled up, and now my leg. Something grabs my ankle and pulls my leg off the bed. Oh, and when you wake up, bro, it is. It's. It's pitch black in the room. Everybody's still sleeping. You can't see the, like, greasy demon, but you feel like it's there. And it's just you in the dark thinking about your leg and thinking about your arm and thinking that the shadow is real shadowy. It's more shadowy than usual, you know, but there's nothing to do about it. So I fall back as. Actually, I go on my phone for a really long time, almost till the sun comes up. And then I fall asleep for about an hour or two. And then I go to fucking work in the morning. So now we're on to night three. Night three is a big fucking problem. So what ends up happening is I have a nightmare right after my ritual of bring me my plate so that I could play fucking Red Dead Redemption. And I go to sleep, I have this nightmare that I'm in this room and I can see only one thing. And it's a, you know, kind of a dude standing in the middle of the room. When I say dude, he's just. He's got two legs, two arms and a head. Like, that's about as much of a dude that he was. And he's got skin like a slug. You're from New York, right? So you guys had this slugs too? They were like gray and black. Yeah, like cheetah almost cheetah print looking.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah.
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David
So his skin looked like that, but it wasn't slimy. And so it's all gray and then black cheetah print blotches. And he's kind of jacked. Not like super jacked, but he's thick. Like, I remember being intimidated by him, like, on a physical level. Like, oh, this dude could me up. And he's got, like, these bottom canines, they come over his lip, so the. On the bottom jaw, they're coming up out of his mouth. And he's got eyes like maraschino cherries. Like, they're so bright red. And he is, like, kind of like heaving. Like, he's so this thing. I. It looked like if rage was, you know, rage incarnate. Like if rage was a creature this thing was rage. And that's all the dream was, right? And then around his legs, there's, like, this swirling black mist. So it's in a mostly dark room, but he's kind of illuminated. I could see him. There's no, like, light source. It's a dream. None of it makes sense. And he's got this smoke all around his legs, and it's real thick, like. Like thick mist. And he's just staring at me and heaving. Like his chest is rising and falling, rising and falling. So I wake up and my wife tells me that she had a nightmare. Like, we wake up in the morning, and it's normal. I don't want to tell her about my nightmare. I've still not told her. And she starts telling me about a nightmare she had. So as soon as she says she had a nightmare, I'm like, okay. Like, I'm ready to, you know, But I'm not telling her what I saw. So she says that she was paralyzed and couldn't move anything but her eyes. And she could look over to me and see a monster on my chest with bright red, glowing eyes pinning me into the bed.
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Top Lobster
Oh.
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David
Yeah, bro. I'm up. Like, when she says this, I'm up. I'm not happy, and I'm real conflicted because.
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Top Lobster
Do you tell her no, though, right?
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David
Because why the would you tell her does it. You're gonna feed into it. You're gonna upset her, and then you have to get to sleep that night. I'm still thinking, like, I can handle this. That's how my dude brain works is like, I'm not doing anything proactive, but I could handle this, bro. Like, if I could just get through another night and, you know, everything will return to normal. So I just keep it to myself. So the fourth night rolls around, and my wife. I have no. Nothing happens. My wife wakes me up in the morning, though, to show me, like, a video that she took of my neck. Like, my jugular, where you would take. Your pulse, is throbbing. So it's like I'm having some sort of really intense dream to the point where before she wakes me up, she wants to show me this. How wild it is. So she takes the video, and then she wakes me up. So as I'm watching this video, suddenly my son pops up out of bed crying. Immediately. Like, you know, when. When the kid wakes up crying, it's because of a nightmare, you know, not like, he woke up and couldn't find somebody. Like, we were sitting right there. He was crying and sat up like, all pretty much at the same time. And so we console him, and we're like, hey, buddy, it's okay. It's okay. And then he tells us that he had this nightmare that a monster with red glowing eyes was after him.
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Top Lobster
Wow.
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David
So you know this.
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Top Lobster
That's like. It's a problem. That's like that dog man story. I was thinking, is this. Is this like a hairless dog man? But that's that dog man story from the Tony Merkel show where the guy had the dream and he ended up with scratches on his back. And then him and his son saw this thing physically. So, like, manifesting itself in. In multiple realms for you. Luckily, it was just. It's just like in. In the dream space, but in three separate occasions or your wife was awake when. When she saw you with this thing on your chest, she experienced.
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David
She doesn't. I don't think she knew how to articulate it because she wasn't somebody who had sleep paralysis. So I think if. If I went back and asked her right now, I. I feel as though she would say, like, that's the only time she's ever had it. So when you say, are you awake? It's like, I think that I was awake in my sleep paralysis experience. And a lot of people who have it say that they're awake. But, like, you could also see how you might not think that because it's totally not a normal waking state. And so, yeah, she had paralysis and she looked over and saw that. So, you know, I. I don't know if that means that it bled over into. Into the waking realm or if, you know, she was still in between enough that the veil was thin. But when I tell you that I. I went into problem solving mode so quick, like, this was no longer a thing that I could let slide, and I had to address the situation. And, like, if you're asking me right now, ask anybody. Like, what do you do in that situation? Yeah, you might have some goofy people. Look, man, I'm not saying that people are goofy if they want to wave sage around. I'm not waving sage around. I don't give a. I'm gonna go towards the. The most pure and good thing that I can think of. And so maybe a lot of other people would. Had other routes of recourse, but I. I didn't. I was, like, grasping for straws, man. But it felt like an emergency. Like, I cannot let this go on any longer. For me, it was one thing. For my wife, it was a totally other thing. But once it extended to my son, who was only probably about four or five at the time, I, I recognize, like, holy, this is an emergency and I have to do something immediately. So, you know, it becomes in a way almost anticlimactic. The, the night of the fifth night, I prayed to Christ to protect myself and my family and. And that was it. It stopped on a dime. And we're talking four nights of tormenting. And on the fifth night it was done.
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Top Lobster
I bet you that prayer, I bet you that prayer was pure as hell, man. It was fluff in there.
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David
Yeah, no, bro, it was desperate. I thought a lot about specifically what I wanted to say because I felt like it was important that I asked very clearly. Like, I need protection for myself, for my wife and for my son and anybody else in this house. And this thing, you know, I, I need it to be gone and it needs to stop. And you know, from that point on, I was never religious. But like, I feel like a real. If I ever like sleep on the idea of Christ, you know what I mean? Like, if you were like, oh, what do you think about, like, I'm not technically a Christian because I'm not a practicing Christian, I don't go to a church. But like, I'll never deny the name of Christ. There's no way. Because if you would have felt how desperate I felt, it would be insulting to ever be so low and to call out in such desperation and then to just as soon as is convenient, drop the idea and be like, oh yeah, Christ. I don't know, maybe he was a dude, maybe he wasn't. Like, I don't know. I know that Christ is something a hundred percent, A hundred percent. And I'll never deny that because I, if I'm ever that level of a fool, then, you know, I deserve whatever's coming to me because that was, that was a low point, man. And you know, I bought all that on myself. It was like I could have rose to the occasion. I could have been a better father, a better husband, a better son in law. I could have been more grateful. I could have.
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David
Swallowed my pride and just engaged with these folks who are putting me up and taking care of me and my family. You know what I mean? Like, I could have done so many other things, but instead I took the cowards route. And you don't get away from that. You know, that internal narrator chews you apart. No matter how much I was into the game and like that, like I knew what I was doing, you don't escape that kind of. And so, you know, all of that I bought on myself. But what I like to say is that it was the. It was the ultimate blessing because the person that I am, like, I. I always say to people, like, I came to Christ, but I came through the back door. And the back door is like the occult and the paranormal and, and you know, like that. And I don't know, it just, it feels like I said just insulting to ever deny just even the concept of Christ that. That specifically to me. Because like I said, I'm not a practicing Christian. I don't read the Bible. I have a Bible, but the language is. So I'm basically retarded. So like I can read, you know, if it's worded well. But as soon as you start telling me about this dude lived for 900 years and he had 17 kids with names you've never heard of and you're not even sure how to pronounce them. And then they had 17 kids, like, the whole opening, like, you know, Genesis or whatever.
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Top Lobster
He got this and he got that.
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David
Very difficult.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, give me the Cliff Notes. I'm God. That's the thing, too. When you're praying it. When you're praying to God, it's kind of like. It's like. Like you said, how am I going to phrase this? And it's almost like, you know what I'm here for. Like, I. I know that I should pray to you, but you know exactly what I need and what I. It's. It's a very, like, it's. It's a backwards. It's a backwards way of thinking for me because it's like I'm trying to craft it perfectly for somebody who can. Can express my thoughts in. In a language that. That doesn't exist, you know?
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David
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. That's a great story, dude. I love that. Real quick, I'm actually going through, you know, my son. I was on the Elijah Schaefer show the other day on Friday, and my son woke up in one of these night terrors again, where he wakes up and he's not quite awake, not quite asleep. And it was so bad that my wife was like, you got to come in here. And I just logged off. This is a huge. This like half a million followers or something on the show. And I was like, I gotta go. And I logged off and I went in there and it was like. It was a probably an hour or two hour ordeal. And it's not the first time, but it's been a while since it's happened. And I'm just, you know, what, what do you do with this kind of situation? Do you deal with it logically or.
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How old is your son?
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David
And so he's got no real ability to vocalize what it is that's upset him. In the dream, he.
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Top Lobster
When he comes out of it, he doesn't even know that he was doing this. It's very bizarre. It could just be, you know, night terrors. They call it WebMD. Right. Or it could be something else. I don't. I'm undecided. But it's. It's. It freaks me out a little bit. And it's been, it's been, you know, it's. It's not just like, recently, like, oh, well, you started the show. No, he's done this before. This has happened before. And it's just. But every time it happens, it doesn't rub me the right Way spiritually. I'm like, something is going on, you know, with this kid.
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David
Do you pray on it?
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Top Lobster
Yeah, I do. Is the prayer sincere? I'm not sure. I think, I think that I have to. You got to pray and really ask yourself, like, are you being sincere here? Are you coming? That's why I said when you prayed, you were you, that that prayer was like straight from the heart. Because if that stopped, that came directly from your soul. That's like an animalistic thing that came out of you. And it was like, it must stop now and felt like that. Yeah, exactly. I'm not, I guess I'm not at that point yet. But how do you get to that point? Do you, do I, you know, do you just talk to God like, it must stop now? And he's like, you don't mean it like that. You know what I mean? There's, there's levels to it. And I'm trying to figure it out. I'm trying to figure.
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David
Well, you know, I lost my train of thought before, but it just came back to me when you were saying that the, it was, it was a blessing because of the, the way my mind works. Like since I was of the paranormal and conspiratorial. I had to, I had to, I had to see, I had to see that. Yeah, Like, I had to see that in order to get to that place. You know what, you know what I mean? So, like, even though it was evil and it was malicious and it was terrifying, thank God for it because it, it, like I said, it made me turn that corner. I think Christianity and Catholicism, they drop the ball a lot. The church drops the ball a lot. They don't talk about the supernatural and the paranormal. They dismiss that and you get like a homogenized, sterilized version of this supernatural book that, like we said before, it's, it's alive on multiple dimensions. Right? It's, it's an allegory, but it's also a record of historical events. But it's also like this, this thing that speaks to the soul. The church doesn't do that. And I think everybody comes to God in their own time, in their own way. And like, this is what I needed. It was a tailored experience for me because even the fact that it was happening to me wasn't enough because my own self preservation skills are trash. You know, I have a lump on my nut right now. I gotta go check out at the doctors. I keep putting this off. I lost, I got, I had cancer. I have one ball. I'm much Faster now. But I have one nut, and I'm experiencing it right now where I'm like, I can't take care of myself. It has to happen to somebody else close to me for me to really light a fire under my ass or the fact that it happened to me and I was able to see it. I think that was the key. I saw it. So when my wife described it and my son described it, it all clicked together. I saw this thing, and even when I saw it, it wasn't enough. And when my wife saw it, it still wasn't enough because I didn't want to instill fear. But when my son saw it, I didn't have the luxury anymore of disbelief. I didn't have the luxury of. Of not wanting to instill fear. That was gone. Fear had been instilled, and it was like, time to act. And that's what. So when you said that whole desperation thing coming from the soul, like, I was desperate as a dude. Like, I had to get something going immediately. I couldn't allow it to go on for one more night. You know, I wasn't like, ah, maybe he saw some. And it wasn't that, you know, or.
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Top Lobster
This ends now.
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David
Yeah, this is exactly. This ends now. Exactly.
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Top Lobster
That's incredible. Listen, man, I think this has been a great conversation. And I told you I had. I had like an hour because I gotta go get my wife. We. We're gonna put a pin in this. We'll put a pin in this conversation. Maybe we'll do it on your show next time you host your show. And I'll re. Listen to this and we'll pick up exactly where. Where we're leaving off now, because I. I could talk to you for another two hours, but. I know, I know, listen, I'm scared of, you know, demons and stuff like this, but my wife, she'll rip my head off. So. So listen, tell us. Tell. Tell my people where they could find you, where they could follow you. I'm gonna put all your stuff in the description when I. When I have the time to update this stuff. Go ahead, man.
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David
So you guys can find me on YouTube and on Spotify, at the Ravenswatch. You can find me on Instagram at the Ravenswatch, although Instagram is dead and it's kind of boring. But if you want to interact with me and bounce anything off me, you can always find me at David Underscore, Lee Underscore Corbo. That's C O, R, B O. You can find me there on Twitter. And I do a lot of my interacting on there. And if you have some sort of story or you know, anything that you'd want to throw at me, you can always email me at the ravenswatch777mail.com Hell yeah man.
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Top Lobster
Hell yeah. Thank you again for coming and talking with me. This was a. This is great. We're going to do it again. We're gonna do it again. This is the Top Lobster show episode three, I think. Thank you for. Thanks for listening guys and we'll see you. We'll see you next time. Peace out.
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