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Paul
We are being hypnotized by people like this. News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely.
Top Lobster
Oh, yeah, dude, some Nephilim.
Paul
It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying what happened to the home of the brave.
JT
These.
Paul
They controlling us now when no one's talking about how they made us finally slaves and everybody's just walking around heading the clouds and want to wake up.
David Lee Corbo
To a dead in the grave.
Paul
Finally, we need to be ready to raise up. Welcome to the end of day, everybody.
JT
He. He goes on to say that he believes. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, you actually watched it earlier and kind of saw it twice, because we watched it before the show that. That the UFOs and these aliens are Nephilim. But can you explain what that means? What is that?
Paul
Well, for the record, Clinton, Nephilim, Yeah.
JT
I am a Nephilim. But also for the record, I did not know even what the word was until about a year ago. My buddy Top Lassa, who's absolutely obsessed with the Nephilim, he has a show called Nephilim Death Squad. Him and Raven, they talk about the Nephilim all the time. What the Nephilim are.
Paul
We had them on the show here talking about the. The Neph. And I think that was our biggest show. Yeah, I think we had like, what, 9,000 viewers watching live on that. It was an interesting conversation because we were also able to tie it into Tucker Carlson, that's been dropping little hints about this for a very long time. Right.
JT
So what it is, is from the Bible. Apparently there's stories of these. These giants that are the offspring of angels that have fallen to Earth and human beings. And that's what the Nephilim are.
Top Lobster
Guys, it's really nice to see my children talking about the Nephilim.
David Lee Corbo
This is how.
Paul
These are good.
Top Lobster
These are our friends, like homies in real life. And we went on their show and we were just like, letting them know about what was going on. And they're very political beings. So, Dave, you know, do an intro, and then we're like, let's run.
David Lee Corbo
It's fascinating to see the direction that the conversation is gone in. Welcome, guys, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven, that is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. And today we have two guests with us, two returning guests actually, from probably two of our most popular episodes. Let's start by introducing Paul of Understanding Conspiracy. And then we'll get into introducing JT follows JC Paul, can you let the people know where it is that they can find your work and what it is you focus on?
JT
Sure.
Paul
You can find me on YouTube under understanding conspiracy. I've been on there for about 10 years now, just getting involved in every conspiracy you can ever imagine. But I am predominantly known for the Nephilim looked like clowns theory, which we've talked about quite a few times now together. But I'm also known nowadays for sharing ideas surrounding probably what we're going to talk about today, which is that the, the millennial reign of Christ may have already happened. And it's a very contentious, fast growing topic which is capturing the imaginations of thousands of researchers. And you know how it goes in the conspiracy world. Every four years or so there's a big topic that changes everything. It seems like this is the next one. So I'm also talking about that.
Top Lobster
So you're talking about the little season, right? That's what that is.
JT
Mm, yeah.
Paul
Okay.
Top Lobster
Yeah, man, I just heard of that the other day and I was like, oh, what?
David Lee Corbo
That's why I reached out to Paul because shout out to MK Ryan. He's a big fan of both our shows. Awesome guy. And he's been messaging me saying, you need to have Paul on to talk about the little season. So I'm really glad we're gonna get into that today. We're gonna talk about a little bit of this Nephilim stuff and then we'll move into it. But before we do, jt, can you let everyone know where it is they can find you and what your work focuses on?
JT
Well, yeah, I'm, I'm on YouTube as well. JT follows JC I'm on Instagram, Tick tock, Joe Telford on Facebook. I'm kind of on all the social media apps. If you look for me, I did a movie actually called Ancient Angels which focuses on angels and Nephilim. So if you guys are interested, interested in that, it's kind of actually funny watching that clip. You could. Sometimes we forget like when we get into this space how little most people know about this. And so we, we kind of give a big overview of the, of the topic. And you know, especially if you, like, you have people in your life who have no idea, like they have to be explained. In the Bible, angels had sex with women and they produce Giants, like the people who have never heard that. You send this to them and they'll find like, oh, that makes sense. And so, yeah, yeah, one more time.
David Lee Corbo
What'S the name of that documentary and where can they find it?
JT
It's called Ancient Angels. Obviously it's a play off Ancient Aliens, where the show where everything that we can't explain is explained by aliens. We do almost the same things that we say, Angels, nephilim, I mean, but. But it's, it's more true to the stories, like, because those guys say, well, maybe these guys were just too primitive to know who they were dealing with and what they called gods were actually aliens. Obviously we say, no, they were gods. They were sons of God, as talked about in the book of job and Genesis 6.
Top Lobster
It's interesting how, like, you just basically covered the same thing that Tucker Carlson is covering, but Tucker does it in this trepidatious way because he's from the mainstream media. So he's like, this is gonna sound really crazy as I say this, but I thought he put it kind of eloquently. And I have a, I have a clip pulled up. I'm not sure if this, it's like a 15 minute segment where he goes in. I'm not even sure he names the Nephilim, but he describes them in detail. And let's just play that so you guys could hear this because it's like, it's a, it's a strange thing to see come almost full circle where the talking head that, you know, was breaking, was breaking down like Russia gate on Trump and kind of telling the truth at the time is now doing this thing. So, like, where, where do we put this as conspiracy theorists or human beings in general. But here, here's the video.
JT
You truly don't want to know anymore about it.
Raven
No, I think I know. I think I know what's up. So I can't prove it. So probably not going to articulate it, but I think I know what's up. Yeah, but can you articulate it? Well, I think it's, I think it's a, you know, I think it's a really old story. You know, I think it's a really old story. So that's what I think.
JT
What is it?
Raven
Well, one, you know, I'm a Christian and I am fairly sincere about it. I try to be sincere about it, more sincere than ever, for sure. But one thing that you notice about all, every world religion I'm familiar with, I'm interested in that topic. There are commonalities between Religions, you know, Jesus is unique. And I believe in Jesus, so I'm not, I don't believe in any kind of pantheology. Okay. I don't think they're all equal or anything like that. I think mine is correct. I think that, Sorry, but there are commonalities that are very striking between all world religions I'm aware of, and all creation myths. And one of them, and this is of course true for Christianity, very true, is that the belief that supernatural beings take physical form, they all believe that the Greek myths, Jesus most famously, but that they take physical form. That they're not just like some ethereal, they're not just shadows floating around, specters, fog, that they're physical, like they're as real as the arm of your chair and that they reproduce with people. Again, Christianity believes that Jesus immaculate conception spirit reproduces with human woman. That's what the story is. And it's described in Genesis as well, in Genesis 6. Again, it's not just the religion of the ancient Hebrews or the religion of the modern Christians. It's Hinduism as well. And the animist religions, the religions, to the extent we understand them or know about them, of the American Indians, all the same. So if every culture in the world that we know about has left any kind of written or physical record is reaching the same conclusions about something, maybe there's something there.
Top Lobster
Right.
David Lee Corbo
Fascinating. I, you know, my, my initial. I'm trepidatious you use that word to describe his approach in this conference conversation. And I've come to be pretty comfortable with the idea that Tucker is into sort of cabalist, you know, Jewish mysticism. And he's famously pictured with the, the red cabal bracelet. And so I find this fascinating. I don't know how you jump from that to saying that I'm a Christian, I believe in Christ. I don't know that I would disagree vehemently with anything that he said there. You might be able to get him on some semantics, maybe in the way that he described things, but not in a way that I would feel, you know, comfortable being an authority speaking on and correcting him. So it's just interesting because he didn't really say. You'd have to watch the entire interview, which I guess was on the show, on Ryan show. I'm sure it's, it's a damn near two hour long interview, but this isn't the first time that Tucker's done this. And I got to admit that it's almost given me pause because if it wasn't for especially Having done this show, collecting this, this large body of evidence from all these people, you know, you guys are amongst those. As previous guests we've done, I don't know, probably closing on, on 40 episodes, most of which are, you know, the biblical lens being what you would use to see our modern day existence and conspiracy theory and all these different things through. So we're well familiar with the topic, but still hearing Tucker Carlson present this on such a large stage as the Sean Ryan show makes me go like, oh, where am I going? What am I saying? Because why is this, why are my thoughts now in alignment with, with him? And I think that we've said it a lot on this show and I don't think that Tucker Carlson is, is, is beyond redemption. Who knows what he's had in his personal life. He may have had a shift. I don't know. That's just speculation. And you know, I don't think that he's beyond redemption. So maybe this is truth for him or maybe this is one of those things where it's like the best lie is one that maintains as closely parallel to the truth as possible. You want in order to sell a lie, it to be comprised of 99 truth and then you deviate on a very important 1%. So who knows? But I'd be interested in hearing, you know, everybody else's thoughts on really, what do you make of, of Tucker saying this? We can, let's start with, with jt.
JT
Well, you know, it's interesting. We actually did a show, you know, months ago when he went on Roseanne and that's when like him and Roseanne. I think that was the first time he mentioned it. If he had, I hadn't heard it before. And my buddy, a friend from high school actually sent it to me, knowing this kind of stuff I talk about on my podcast. And I was, yeah, so a lot of people came at me and said, oh, don't you know he wears the red race? Don't you know the, that he's not one of us? And this is controlled opposition. It's all the things. And I said that's probably true. I mean, that could be true. But it's still significant that he's saying this publicly because he, you know, he's a serious person, obviously certain, you know, if you're the wrong political persuasion, you don't take him serious. But like most people would consider he was just literally on Fox News not that long ago. Yeah, as you said, he's talking about like major political issues. So the fact that he's saying this for one. Most of the things I've heard him say regarding this topic, I think that he's mostly right. I mean, again, like, you're talking about the small nuances of how he phrases things. But I, I have wondered when he was just on Rogan and he was talking about that aliens are. Don't come from outer space, he was saying they come from inside the earth in the ocean. And I was like, he's really saying like something that's biblically true would be like that. You know, like if you like, think about the biblical cosmology, you have the water, the deep is connected with the underworld. And like, if he's talking about spiritual beings. Yeah, he, what he's saying is, is correct. So the real question is why is.
Paul
He saying this now?
JT
Yes. And, and I think that's, I guess that's the thing we, we won't really know. But I mean, I, I think it's awesome honestly, that he's talking like this because, because the things we've been talking about. Yeah. That have remained on the outskirts of, of tick tock in, you know, and YouTube and, and podcasts is now like, I mean, it's, it's becoming mainstream. And yeah, like, I, but yeah, I, I think it's interesting for sure. I mean, you guys can. Paul, what do you think?
Paul
Again, I don't, I don't want to assume malevolence. I'd rather assume ignorance formula. Evans. I, I hope he has our best interest at heart, but I remember your video where you were showing his talk with Roseanne Barr, and I made my own video, kind of, after listening to it, kind of asking these questions like, why. Why is Tucker Carlson, of all people, saying the word nephilim? I know this is somebody with a huge following, you know, so it's influential. And I've heard about the red bracelet thing as well, and I've had many comments thrown at me saying the exact same thing. You can't trust this guy. Guy as far as you can throw him or control the position. And again, that's probably true. I mean, realistically, that is probably what's actually going on. But I'm gonna, I'm gonna keep watching and I'm seeing more. He's saying more and more things more often. And again, I can't really fault anything he's saying. What he's saying is completely biblical and matches up with what we've been talking about for so long. And I couldn't help but think of the phrase of, you know, they will give Us, our leaders. That's how the controllers work. You know, they will give us our figureheads, our talking heads. They will control the opposition. And it is kind of true in the sense that are they just like a soft disclosure? It's kind of like a coup. They're taking over our talking points. They're taking them and controlling the thought processes behind them through trustworthy soft speaking characters who, who have been home names for so long, like Tucker Carlson. People got warmed up to him already. It's kind of like we trust him. He, he has our best interest. He's one of us now. He's free from the system. You know, it's that kind of thing. So when he talks about these things and we should listen to what he has to say, and I'm waiting for him to take the information, then start steering it in that direction where we don't want him to go with it, that's got to be coming eventually. So let's, let's sit back and see if that does happen. But I don't, I don't know. I mean this came off the back of the sighting that happened where there was like lines of police cars outside that shopping mall because everyone supposedly was Miami. Giants everywhere or something like, you know, it's all kind of happening at once when these things happen, happened. I think we have to take a step back as conspiracy theorists, researchers and look at the big picture in the narrative. What else has been happening around this time? And it does seem like there is a, an externalization of the hierarchy situation going on. They're letting people know the truth now. Slowly, this drip feeding out by Tucker Carlson saying the word Nephilim here and Roseanne Barr saying it over there and a glimpse of the news people, scared, claiming to see giants over here. Just little things like that happening every now and then and it feels like they are bringing themselves out.
Top Lobster
And the demon face, I don't you guys remember that?
JT
That was. Yeah, for sure.
Paul
Exactly. And that fit with my research perfectly because they literally look like big giant smiling lizard clowns. You know, that's what they were going for. And it's. But why start releasing this information now? Well, you have to remember as well. Alice Bailey did write a book called called the Externalization of the Hierarchy which explains and talks about the coming of a world teacher in 2025. And she wrote this a long time ago, you know, and she's claiming by the time it gets to this point the, the masses will have been initiated into the mystery, wisdom, occult level to what they want them to know in preparation for this world teacher to come onto the stage and start basically talking about Luciferianism, but masks as New age philosophy, you know, and that's. And she is a Luciferian. She. She was there to create the Lucist Trust, as it's known today. She did. Had a magazine called Lucifer. You know, this is what she did back in the day. And this world teacher that we're about to see on the stage, you know, it's. It's probably going to be like a Jesus type character. It's going to be something similar, you know, and if that's just a year away and now they're talking about highly spiritual biblical concepts like demons and the Nephilim. Them. Something, something's. Something's wrong, something's weird.
Top Lobster
It's weird juxtaposition of that. And if you watch the rest of this is about 15 minutes of this interview where they're talking specifically about the Nephilim. And he talks about from 1945 till current day. And he's saying how spirituality is basically ignored. And. And there's an op being run on us. Then he also does a little quip in there, like. And I know a thing or two about running ops. It's like, yeah, you do. You know, you do. You've been like. Even though, you know, he's kind of telling us the truth in Fox News, he. There's still. It's still tainted with this, you know, whatever narrative he likes to push. But he's saying from 1945, the dropping of the A bomb, till now, there's been a denial of spiritualism or spirituality or the Bible or however you want to see it. And now it's almost like he's kicking that door open or he's. He's the guy that's just creaking it and just opening it, opening it slightly for people to come in. So if we are gearing up towards. I named the episode the Nephilim Return. It was just being a little cheeky and fun. But if we are gearing up towards this, does it start here and does it have to. It does have to open up to the people. The people do have to be aware of what's going on because there's going to be a lot of strange things happening in end times or. I mean, Paul, you might. You might just come here and blow our minds and tell us that we're a thousand years past end times even.
JT
Like. Yeah, you mean when Jesus was around the earth? No, but I was. I want to go back to what Paul said, I think I want to change my answer to what Paul said because what he's saying is, because I started to think about it like that there's this groundswell, obviously. I mean again, I, I think all of us, as you do this, it's, it's easy to get tunnel vision and forget what, as I said, you don't really know what everyone else knows about this. But I mean I've had major big hit videos on these social media apps talking about Nephilim. All my friends have. I mean, so how many, like literally billions of people have heard about the Nephilim on Tick Tock, on Instagram, on Facebook, on YouTube. And then it's like, so there's this groundswell of, of increased knowledge and awareness of this topic. And maybe somebody says we need to get out ahead of this, we need to get our guy, we're going to make, we're going to stage a co op of this and then we are going to lead it. Because you have a lot of people who know just very little about this. So obviously Tucker Carlson and even us, we'd say yes, I haven't heard him say anything really wrong yet. But then maybe one day he does start saying things that are wrong and by then it's like, who's going to, who they going to believe Paul from understanding Conspiracy going to believe me over Tucker Carlson? It's like this guy is obviously well respected and he knows what they know and he's got a better voice. And I agree with him on his politics too.
David Lee Corbo
We talk about, on this show very often about how there's no such thing as an effective organic grassroots movement since I, you know, God knows how long ago that hasn't been co opted by some intelligence agency. As soon as it becomes viable and promising, they're going to co opt and steer the movement. You might look at this Nephilim narrative. Certainly we were inspired by not only the evidence for their existence, but also previous content creators who were talking about these things in such a compelling way they, that this story clicked and, and settled in pieces of a puzzle so effectively that it was like, it's time to start talking about this. So in that way. And then of course the, the, the, at least for our show, the rapid fan base that it's developed is certainly indicative that this resonates with people. So I would imagine that, yeah, this is something that they'd want to co op my thing. And, and this is just speculation, but I always kind of imagine that especially with the, what I would consider an alien deception that they were going to try to take these, this seemed like the simplest path they were going to take these ancient biblical adversaries of humanity, and they were going to rebrand them as benevolent space beings who are highly technologically advanced and, and for some reason have a benevolence that makes them interested in us not destroying our own planet, destroying one another in mutually assured nuclear destruction. And so they were going to intervene on behalf of mankind out of sheer benevolence and no other reason. And that, that was a very compelling way to, to take these entities and like I said, rebrand them. Now I look at what Tucker's saying and I'm going, well, this is, I got to admit, this is a little left field. This is, I don't think you can effectively do that anymore. If you start to call them Nephilim and, and people begin to understand that these are ancient biblical adversarial entities, then they're not going to, to trust him. The only thing that I, that I almost see left on the plate if you were going to deceive people with this, and, and this is only in my limited thought in this moment, is that you're going to cue people into a Luciferian idea that they were justified, that the fallen were justified, and that God is wrong, and that the rebellion against God is actually something to be looked kindly upon and that these, these spirits should be. Because I guess when it comes to, we talk about on this show all the time, it's consent, right? Especially when dealing with these spirits, these entities. Consent is everything. Can you consent to, to something that has been falsified? In other words, if, if I present you a proposition, but I've lied in the fine print, are you truly consenting to that proposition? Maybe they have to tell you their nature in order for you to truly consent. So maybe the goal is expose them for what they truly are. But then let's work a narrative that you want to be on the side of these entities so that your consent actually matters.
Top Lobster
It's not really a narrative, but like you see throughout the Bible, Moses goes up against 10 Commandments, comes down, they're worshiping something else. It's not. And it's not because they just decided to stray away from God, but that something else was giving them something and.
David Lee Corbo
That something else didn't trick them. It didn't need to trick.
Top Lobster
Well, it was Moloch. They built the cow. They know what it is.
JT
Can I give you a biblical story that I like to bring up in this situation is the story of Balaam and was it Balak? And so Balaam, so Balak the king, when they're going into Canaan, he wants them to curse the Israelites. And but, but he, but Balaam cannot curse what God has blessed. So he tries like three times. He ends up blessing them three times later in the story, what he ends up doing is he ends up tricking the Israelites into worshiping BAAL of Peor. And so it's a thing where, you know, like in the book of Deuteronomy, and obviously they, they even have, like, we're going to be blessed if we do these things, and we're going to be cursed if we do these things. So what he got them to do was to curse themselves. So they had, they went to some kind of like, obviously sounds like crazy festival where they're having sex with like, probably the temple prostitutes and doing all the things. And so unknowingly they worshiped BAAL of Peor and cursed themselves. And they obviously, they all got death for that. So what they, so they were tricked in a way. I don't think they knew they were intending to go worship another God. But what they did was they should have known better than what they did. They knew what they were doing was wrong, but they didn't know the level of sin they were committing. And I think that's. That is. That is why they were supposed to be vigilant when, yeah, they might be lying to you, but they're kind of telling like, you, they're the warning signs are there for, you know, you're, you know, you're doing something that's this not of God. And so when it went, well, I was tricked. It's like the Faustine bargain. Well, I mean, so the Devil lied to you. Yeah, that's, that's what he's going to do. So, like, you should have known better to make deals or accept deals from, you know, the devil, basically.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, I, I imagine that there are varying degrees of, like I was saying, if, if consent is important and you're lying in such a way that is what's a lie that you might tell that is easily perceived as a lie. But if you want to go ahead and do this thing that is a sin, that lie grants you enough comfort where you're like, oh, yeah, I didn't, I didn't see through that. So I, I don't know. I mean, honestly, at this point in the game, it's all speculation. Right. We don't know where this whole Tucker Carlson thing is going, but it is fascinating to Watch it unravel. Because it wasn't on my bingo card.
JT
That I was just gonna, I was just gonna say that a possibility could be that there's. There's still a wide swath of the population who's not going to fall for aliens because they don't believe in them. So what if, what if you say, you just. Again, like if we get into a semantic thing like this go back into the ancient aliens thing. Oh, well, somebody calls them gods. Somebody, somebody calls them aliens. Some people call them angels, some people call them aliens. Like, okay, so even us, biblically, we'd say that the morning stars, the sons of God, are not from Earth. So technically they are not from here. They're. They're aliens.
David Lee Corbo
Right?
JT
You know, so we get into semantics. So, like, maybe the real trick is when something shows up, call them whatever you want. You're going to be afraid because if you're a religious person, you'll believe in angels and Nephilim, and if you're a science person, you'll believe in the aliens.
Paul
To me, I have a bit of a different take on all of this these days in light of this new theory going around about the millennial reign already happening and. Oh, please tell us, are you sure?
JT
Yes, yes.
David Lee Corbo
Let's get into the meat of this.
Paul
Are you, are you sure you want to hear this? I don't know. I don't know. Because, you know, we know there's been an agenda to program the masses to prepare for an alien invasion for over 100 years, since the War of the Worlds and all this. You know, people were literally shooting at grain towers when that radio broadcast went out because they thought tripods were invading, because they legitimately believe it was a real broadcast saying aliens have been invaded. You know, and it never stopped from there. There's been nothing but a barrage of alien invasion related media just bombarding us and bombarding every generation for over 100 years. They want us to believe aliens are out there and about to invade. But at the same time, we also know you can't really keep the cat in the box when it comes to the truth of demons and Nephilim and biblical history. So we're seeing these narratives where they're trying to control that now and they are letting you know it's demons, it's not really aliens, you know, And I think they're setting demons up to, to fail. I think the demons have a role to play in all of this. And I think they are going to reveal themselves and they are going to be defeated. And that's their job to do that, to be defeated. That's kind of the point of all of this. And there will be a savior. There'll be something that saves us from, from the evil invading aliens. If you still stubbornly don't want to believe in the, the spiritual side of things, you'll stick to aliens. But if you are, like I said, Christians who believe in the nephilim and demons, then something's going to come and defeat the demons. And most Christians are waiting for Jesus to return to do just that, you know, And I'm sure there'll be a savior who will appear, who appears to have defeated the demons and established a new reign of some kind, works peace and sound security and everything's wonderful, you know, because all evil has been destroyed or something, I don't know.
David Lee Corbo
But start to play into this idea of something that I'm, I'm pretty unfamiliar with, but I do see occasionally people who I, I, I respect because the information that they put out is, is, you know, considerable. I've seen this idea of a, of a false sort of apocalypse, one that would be, and, and I've never, I haven't had time to look into it, but I find it fascinating. And now as you're starting to describe this, I'm going, oh, that's interesting. Could we have sort of, let's not even call it an apocalypse, but like you're describing a false savior, almost a false flag event, right? Except it's, it's a spiritual one, it's not a geopolitical one.
Paul
There's, well, there's many, there's many ways they could play this card. This is, this is the issue. I can't give you the definitive script of what's, how this is going to go down. They have A to Z of scripts to choose from and they'll pick whichever one works at the time, when necessary, based on what's, what went down, how people reacted. This isn't just a cut and dry. There's one plan here. They, they have multiple plans. They could just play at any moment. And all the programming for each individual plan has been laid out before us for a long time. And we've been in the game of decoding the media and finding the symbols and signs and the predictive programming, you know, and what they're trying to do for us. And we know there's a transhumanist agenda in some way to merge mankind with machine, or in some way to develop a super intelligence through artificial intelligence which will create some kind of systematic control or net over humanity where you can't break out of it. We know that's already well underway anyway since Minority Report came out as a film, and Price prior to that, you know, they've been building that. And the transhumanist agenda is clearly at play in cahoots with the AI agenda as well. So something's going on there. We know there's some weird black goose symbolism constantly being thrown at us. So they're working to do a programmable matter in some weird way which will then shape reality and what we perceive to be something that it really isn't. They can meld reality to be whatever they want it to be. We know there's something weird and trippy going on with cern, and we know there's something odd happening with reality itself. Itself. When it comes to things like the Mandela effect, depending on where you want to go with that constant idea, something weird is going on on a quantum level where reality is malleable now and it's not quite as cut and dry as most people would like to believe.
David Lee Corbo
I would agree with that disturbing sentiment that. That somehow reality is more malleable. Yeah, that. I would agree with that.
Paul
But that's what I'm saying. If you look at movies over the past 100 years, they've been pre programming us with a lot of agendas and plays, plays that cards, cards they could play. You know, they've been softly prepping our spongy brains with these ideas. So it's in there when it goes down. So we've already been pre programmed to react the way they want us to react when those things happen. And aliens is a big one of them. But obviously me and Joe have been talking about this theory, this idea that, well, if the millennial kingdom has already been established on Earth and we can see remnants of that everywhere, when you actually pay attention, it's what most non Christians would call the Tartarian Empire. What we're doing is reinterpreting that, as this is evidence that Christ physically reigned on Earth for a thousand years. If that has already come and gone, which we can get into the details afterwards. But just to get this alien point out the way, if that's already come and gone, then there is no tribulation event that's truly about to happen. That's already happened before his return over a thousand years ago. What we're living in is a time called the Little Season of Satan, which happens just after the millennial reign ends. And if we're living in that time, whatever's about to Come. It seems, it seems like they're prepping people for tribulation and Christ's return. But it cannot be that if it's already happened. But it seems like they're going to make it look like that's happening to the best of their ability. And the alien invasion is a part of that process. It seems that's the card they're going to play to make it seem like in some way, shape or form, we're stuck in some kind of biblical tribulation event. And the world Savior will appear, who's obviously a false savior. This is what we're talking about here. This isn't good. But most people have been prepped to believe perhaps it's Jesus. Maybe they'll even fake a rapture event of some kind. I don't know what's going to happen because even that's not a fully biblical concept anyway. The Rapture, you know, it was invented in like the 1800s as a theology but futurist doctrine, which is this idea that it's just around the corner, Christ is about to return again, is a relatively new doctrine which was established in about the 1800s again. And if you. And Joe's done some great work in this, Sos Alpha talked. And actually there's quite a handful of channels now, about 20 solid channels out there, who have shown that around the mid-1700s, something, something weird went down.
JT
There's a shift, a big shift. All the revolutions basically started.
Paul
Then everything happened. And if you look at the Statue of Liberty, it's quite literally Lucifer with the chains broken at their feet, you know, and it's Independence Day. Was independence from what exactly were told the British, you know, was it perhaps freedom from the millennial reign? Was this, that shift that happened in that mid-1700s? Was it a shift in power? Because there was a vacuum left behind from Christ and his saints who would have ruled for those thousand years once they left. Something had to fill that void. And there was a power struggle. All the revolutions, all the wars, all these things kicked off. Then kingdom against kingdom, empire against empire.
JT
Isn't. It isn't interesting in America that they had the Gads and flag was like the, the, the thing don't tread on me, the coiled serpent. When like literally In Luke chapter 10, Jesus gives the apostles the, the authority to tread on serpents and scorpions and they're, that's like, that's like literally the flag that we're shown that like conservatives put on their pickup trucks.
David Lee Corbo
Guys, it's making too, too much sense.
Paul
But let's let's get back to the alien invasion story. Well, yeah, exactly. Let's think of the alien invasion. That card now has a completely different light.
JT
I've got. When you're done, I've got, I've got the perfect movie segue, this.
Paul
But it has to be seen now in a completely different light. You can't just take it for granted that, oh, well, it's just some, some silly idea or it's just some evil plan to the Antichrist is going to pull or something like that. I don't think so. I think we have to consider where is Jesus now? Because it doesn't say he leaves necessarily or his kingdom ends. It's just that he kind of hands over the earth to Satan during that time.
JT
Or he allow. He allows. Yeah, yeah. In Revelation, chapter 20, like there's a, there's a thousand years. And the real. I think the big distinction in the thousand years is Satan is bound for a thousand years. He lets him out and he allows him to deceive. Jesus is still on the throne. Yeah, so, yeah, don't. Yeah, so I, we're on that belief that. But yes. So he doesn't. Right.
Top Lobster
So this is after Jesus. There's been a trial. Jesus has reclaimed the birthright of, of Earth, of humans. So this is his. But they still. That, that part always bothered me is like, so then you're going to let this guy still run free, but then after a thousand years, then he comes.
JT
Back and that's the question, like, why? Yeah, I think that's, I think that's what we said. A lot of us who have researched this, especially who, like, who believes the, the futurist view that all this stuff is about to happen. When you read Revelation 20, I said, I always struggle with that. Wait a minute. So he throws. So after Armageddon, they throw the beast and the false prophet in the lake of fire, but they take the devil and stick him in the bottomless pit and then he's allowed to come out again. I always thought, like, why doesn't he just throw him in the lake of fire too? And then how does he deceive the nations if Jesus is ruling, like, everyone thinks he's going to rule. And I think that's why we're asking these questions of like, well, if he deceives the nations again, maybe it's not as simple as everyone thinks it's going to be. Because everyone is so sure that, well, I'm not going to be tricked. And it's like, well, he deceives the nations to make war against Jesus and the saints an unwinnable battle. You know, like, obviously he can't win. He knows he can't win. Like, he knows all this stuff's gonna happen, but he. But yet he still tricks the nations to go fight against Jesus anyways.
Paul
Well, this is the point. Fighting against Jesus is the actual end game of the Bible of Revelation. You know, it's after the thousand years Satan's released. He gathers an army after deceiving all of the nations to make war with the camp of saints. That's what it says now. Now we're starting to talk in the realms of cosmic battles here beyond biblical galactic proportions. You know, we're talking about alien stuff.
David Lee Corbo
I think Top's about to go to the same place that I'm about to go. Go ahead.
Top Lobster
Maybe not, but what does this do? So if we're past the tribulation and we're past the first return of Christ, what does that do to the Jews? What are we talking about with these people here?
JT
Oh, you want to go there? I would say that, I would say that biblically, that, that there's no Jew nor Greek, no slave nor free. No, we're all one in Christ Jesus. So, so that the people who try to talk about replacement theology, it's the covenants have been replaced. There's no way to the Father except through Jesus. So obviously the people in that land, whoever they're related to, they still need Jesus. And they're not God's chosen people when they're in open rebellion against him. I mean, I think that's the thing that's like the modern church is, is so woefully wrong about the things Jesus was saying when he was saying them. That's why when Jesus. I guess I posted a clip on my, my Instagram yesterday. It was like from the movie Jesus of Nazareth. And so when Jesus is telling the Pharisees, you guys are going to hell, like, how are you going to escape? Escape damnation. You see these stones in this temple? There'll be not one left upon another. And he's saying in this generation, this is going to happen. Like, literally, that's what Matthew 24 is about. The apostles say when. And so because of all the things. And obviously then he gets into the parables, how they kill God's son. What's, what's the, what's. What's God going to do? He's going to take their vineyard and he's going to give it to others. Like, that's why he's Saying that's, that's the abomination of desolation, is that they nailed God's son to a cross. And then what happens after that? Judgment comes. In 70 AD all the things Jesus said were going to happen happened. Then after that, you have the persecution of the early church. All the things happen. It's like that was the great tribulation that people are, like, looking for when they're saying, I wonder when there's going to be a one world government. There was a one world government back in Jesus day. It was called Rome. Right? That was the beast. I believe that that was the beast. The harlot, the, the scarlet woman was Jerusalem. She's the one who was made desolate, was burned by fire by the beast who hated her. I mean, like, all those things have happened. And I think that. So what we're seeing today, I believe that most of the things we're talking about is this is the tail wagging the dog. So it's like putting out a carrot of some kind of future eschatology. Oh, look, they're going to build the Third Temple. Oh, maybe their Antichrist is going to go into it. Oh, maybe this is going to happen. Maybe, maybe it's nephilim. Tucker Carlson, like, he's kind of hinting at these things that could be end times. Things when we're looking over here, when the real thing is, like, they're talking about stuff in the North Pole, like they're going to be World War III at the North Pole. When, like, we get further into this. Like that could, that could literally be where. Where's Jesus at? He could be somewhere in the north. The Bible talks about the north Mount Zion. People talk, you know, tie that into the North Pole, Rupus negra. Like, that's why our compasses point north. And, and all the things, it's like that you're looking for certain signs. But that's. That could be maybe why, when it really is toward the end, people won't even believe it because they'll be like, wait a minute, an Antichrist hasn't been revealed yet. Where's the mark of the beast? This, this can't be the end because these prophecies have not been fulfilled. The gospel hasn't been preached throughout the whole nations, even though in Colossians 3. Was it Colossians 1:23, it says that every creature under heaven has heard the gospel, like, so literally in the Bible, it already says that happened. And. But people are teaching people in churches that these things need to happen. And then Jesus can come back.
Top Lobster
So if you see missionaries are a waste of time.
JT
What's that?
Top Lobster
Missionaries are a waste of time. And I agree.
JT
Well, I think most people. I mean, obviously the best you can reach people is your own community. I mean, people still need to know. But the point is that when it comes to certain things need to happen, those things happen, and they happened a long time ago. Like, and I, and I. So I think that that's the main part is like that when you see something so on the nose, like the red heifers. So like literally they're talking about the red heifers going up, being sent over to, you know, Israel and that that's what caused the war in Gaza. Now really, the. The cows caused this war?
David Lee Corbo
Well, wasn't there some representative of Hamas that said that part of the reason that they flew people in on paper airplanes was because of the red heifer prophecy or something to that?
JT
Yes, that's what I'm saying. Like, it. Doesn't that seem like it's a little bit on the nose where, like, I.
David Lee Corbo
Can get behind the idea? Like as you guys are saying this, the way I look at things as they unfold is like, oh, I see the poetry in that. And that would not. That would be. Because if you start to look at the story of mankind as like the greatest story ever told, then you kind of go like, oh, okay, I could see that happening. Right. So when you're talking about, you know, especially what Paul mentioned before, which I found fascinating was Tartaria being evidence of Jesus having already been here, that Tartaria has never. People find it fascinating. And I agree, sure, it's fascinating and it does nothing for me until you said that. Then all of a sudden I'm like, Tartaria just became one of the most fascinating things to me ever. Whereas before I. I couldn't get give less of a care about it at all. It's just not possible. I really didn't. It just never resonated. People said, oh, you should have somebody that. Does Tartaria have him on the show. Doesn't do anything for me. I'm not interested. However, that angle becomes entirely fascinating. I. I wonder not to, you know, derail too much, but is what sort of evidence have you found that supports this idea? Either. Either one of you, I don't know which one of you guys has done more on this Tartaria topic.
Paul
We've both done a lot. And what I can do is I can just, I can read to you the words of Jesus himself. First of all, and just. This is the biblical evidence. We have the scripture we have. Which. Which basically explains that even Jesus himself was saying, I am coming back very soon, not in 2000 years. So first of all, the. These are the basics, okay? So I'll just read to you every little thing here. So, Matthew 16:28. Verily, I say unto you, there'll be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom. Now, that's pretty straightforward, you know, Mark 9. 1. And he said unto them, verily I say unto you that there'll be some that stand here which shall not taste of death till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power. So in another perspective, same thing. Luke 9:27. But I tell of you the truth, there'll be some standing here that shall not taste of death till they see the kingdom of God. Matthew 10:23. But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye to another. For verily I say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel till the son of man become. That's pretty. That's pretty sudden. That's not. In 2000 years. That's like.
JT
Like a thief in the night.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, well, yeah, that's within these dudes lifetimes. Like, some of these people standing here are gonna live to see this.
JT
Well, I mean, it's like, it's obviously the implication that some of them will be dead before he comes back. So.
David Lee Corbo
Right.
JT
Like, so when. So when people try to say. Some people will say, oh, he's talking about the Transfiguration, which literally, it's like the next chapter, they go up, they see a glorified version of Jesus. Like, he shows him, kind of reveals what he actually looks like. And they'll say, oh, that's what he was talking about. But nobody's dead at that point.
Paul
No, that's not a king. That's not a kingdom.
JT
No, it's not.
Paul
No. As well. And he's pretty clear with his language here. He repeats it three times in three of the different synoptic gospels. Here. This is not like just a throwaway comment. Romans 3, 11, 13. And that knowing the time, that now it is high time to wake out of sleep, for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. So right around the corner, that's Paul telling you this is. It's about to happen. Time is extremely short.
JT
Right.
Paul
This is not for a generation in the future. First Peter 4, 7. But the end of all things is at hand. Be therefore sober, and watch Unto prayer. So right around the corner in first Peter, you know, this generation shall not pass till all these things are fulfilled. That's Matthew 24:34. This generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled.
JT
All these things, all of them.
Paul
Matthew 23. All these things shall come upon the this generation. For the Luke 21:22. For these be the days of vengeance that all things which are written may be fulfilled. These are the days. Not millennia, not centuries, not decades. These are the days. It's coming now. The very, very immediate. No, it says here Matthew 26:64. Jesus told Caiaphas that he himself would see Jesus coming in the clouds of heaven. He's telling this priest, you will see me come back with my kingdom. In the end, you'll be alive to witness it happening. Now if we go off the futurist eschatology, that all that is just symbolic. And he was talking about us now living during the time of Facebook and Twitter and social media, you know, and it's kind of. You're making Jesus out to be a liar because he was not lying when he said he meant it. It. I'm coming in this lifetime, you will see me. The time is at hand. It is now. I have come to end all things now. That's why I'm here.
JT
You know, Was it even in. In the book of Daniel? So Daniel gets the end times prophecy and. And Gabriel tells him, shut up the words of this prophecy until the times of the end. So when Jesus is in the with suit Jesus out there preaching in Matthew 24, he's quoting from Daniel. So shut up this prophecy till the end. And then Jesus is quoting from it. And then the book of Revelation, chapter 22, it says, do not seal up this prophecy because the time is at hand.
Paul
That's 2210. Yeah. And he also says at the start of Revelation, Revelation 1:1, things which must shortly come to pass. Yeah, okay. Obviously all the tribulation stuff we have is in Revelation. So the very first line in the book that these futurists are basing their futurist eschatology upon tells them it was shortly coming to pass during the time it was written by John in Patmos. You know, it says here Revelations 1:3. The time is at hand. Revelations 1:7. Behold, he cometh in the clouds and every eye shall see him. And they also which pierced him. Those who pierced him with the spear on the cross will also see him.
JT
Yeah, maybe like, maybe like the Romans in the. Yeah, like who did it?
David Lee Corbo
This is something that I, I think is Actually, fascinating to your point is that the narrative with Tartaria is that, you know, the Tartarians were this advanced civilization and any remnants of their civilization was destroyed in an effort to wipe these people from the history books. And when you consider the scale of the Tartarian empire and how much work had to be put into destroying this entire empire so that nobody would notice it, you know, I. That to me is like, well, maybe, but if you go, somebody had a vested interest in hiding the evidence that the kingdom of God was here, like, okay, that is a much more. That's a task that merits the level that they would have had to have gone through. You know what I mean? Like, it's one thing to try to erase a people from the history books. And you go, like, man, that's kind of a lot to do. And for what we now know the Tartarians existed, or, you know, the Tartarians we now know they existed. And, and to what end? What, what secret were they hiding that was so important that now that we know they existed, it's virtually changed nothing, right? But this, this would change everything. This would make this unbelievable deception that is coming down the pipe fall apart, right? Because if, if the evidence was everywhere that this already happened, well, then you wouldn't be able to trick people. So in order to, you know, for Satan to, to deceive people in this times, it's like, yeah, we have to wipe out this massive empire that was like, a lot of people who are into Tartaria would tell you this is the biggest empire that ever existed. Or, or, you know, as far as they've discovered to this extent so far, who knows how much hasn't been discovered?
Top Lobster
What does it mean, what does it mean when he says that God will rule with an iron rod for these thousand years?
Paul
Well, this is the argument. Was he talking about a physical rule on Earth or is it a spiritual one? And this is where a lot of Christians differ and argue about what it meant to have a millennial reign. And now there's, there's a, there's a kingdom, an eternal kingdom, and then there's a millennial reign on Earth. A thousand years. Now that's finite. A thousand years, last I checked, has a beginning and an end. It starts with one, it ends with a thousand. It's not an infinite kingdom that goes on forever everlasting as the eternal kingdom of Jesus Christ actually is in heaven, in the right hand of God, the throne of God. You know, they're two different things. And I think a lot of, a lot of Christians, conflate the two together. And they believe when Jesus came, you know, to establish his millennial reign, that was to establish an eternal kingdom and that everything will be perfect forever once he comes and everything's perfect and there's nothing else happens after that. Full stop. Done. Let's close the book. Let's not keep reading Revelation and see what it says in the end. A lot of people have believed and have been preached that once Christ returns, everything's perfect forever. Done. Nothing else happens, you know, but what the book tells you is no, there's a physical rule of some kind in which the spirit saints will rule for a thousand years with Christ. There's a resurrection that takes place. And it seems like these saints are resurrected, you know, the martyrs for Christ. And it seems like there's thousands of them, from what we're gathering. The number is quite large, but it's not in the millions, you know, it's a. It's a group that is enough to rule the earth and kind of be like bishops or generals for Christ in his kingdom, you know, they're just below him. There is knights, could you say? They're the ones that he has given authority over lands and places for. And you find all these cathedrals everywhere are named after saints, you know, primarily. And it's possible that those were the hubs where they would dominate and rule over specific areas on behalf of Jesus, who appeared to be, in some very literal sense, ruling on earth as a king, as a ruler with an iron rod, not as like a voted in representative of humanity as a ruler, you know, a despot if there ever was one. Essentially, he is. He is in control. He is in charge. He is the boss. It's his way or the highway situation, you know, it's not like, oh, well, you can. You can do what you want and there's no consequences. I'm an easygoing leader. You know, this is. This is Jesus come to establish his law on earth. And it's kind of if you don't go my way, there's consequences. And we can read into the scriptures in there. I think it's. Is it Zephaniah? I can't remember. I've got it written down somewhere. But it's talking of a time where, you know, Christ will rule on earth and people will have to make pilgrimages to go and see him. And at least once a year, they'll have to go up to Mount Zion and pay respects to him as the king, as God as king on earth. And those nations who do not make the pilgrimage will suffer extreme droughts. There are consequences for not going along with it. We find vast swaths of the earth that are just tundra deserts all over the place. Is it possible these are the nations who didn't make those pilgrimages and we're just seeing the remnants of extreme droughts for these times. He seems like he did have a physical rule of some kind, but then people argue, well, he was actually ruling from heaven in some kind of weird ethereal sense. In Mount Zion, it wasn't. You couldn't actually see it. You know, and people try and make excuses, uses. But from what the evidences we seem to be uncovering is no, this was a literal thousand year physical kingdom that was established on the Earth. Infrastructure was built, canals were built, cities were built, which are magnificent.
JT
Make no sense. They make no sense.
Paul
Yeah, like they do not fit. People with horses and buggies should not have built these.
David Lee Corbo
So can I make two points to that then? There are two things that I want to say. Both of them contribute to this. One is the existence of these, you know, these Gothic cathedrals, which all it takes is just a lie to, you know, in, in regards to when they were erected. They have a geometry to them and a structure is such that we've, we've lost the ability to build structures like this. One of the most famous stories, you know, regarding these Gothic cathedrals is that a woman who was recording the sound of the organ playing within the cathedral, then took that music and plugged it into a resonance plate where you put salt on it. And all of a sudden the salt arranges itself into the same geometric pattern that the windows of the cathedral.
JT
Yeah.
David Lee Corbo
How do we even. We do not have the ability to do that. Although if you're talking about the kingdom of God, then all of a sudden that starts to plug in. Well, and the other thing that I think lends itself to this is I'm having like a little bit of a crisis as you guys are talking, because.
Top Lobster
I'm like, yeah, me too. I can see we're doing an entire book of Revelation series. I was like, should we throw this thing out?
David Lee Corbo
Just gonna throw it away?
JT
Re examine it.
Paul
Re examine it. I did, I did warn you. I did try.
David Lee Corbo
I mean, for us, it's fantastic. For the audience, I'm sure they're having strokes.
JT
There's a lot of, a lot of people screaming into their. To their radios. Heretic.
David Lee Corbo
Yes, exactly. But you know the other thing, this.
Top Lobster
Guy doesn't know what he's talking about. He has no idea. This show the show Nephilim Death Squad is like, if you have information, we want you to come and share. And this is. This is biblical information. I'm open to hearing it. If you change my mind, that then screw me, right? But if. Then good job, then. Then, yeah, I mean, I'm, I. I'm enjoying it.
Paul
So go ahead.
JT
One thing. One thing I want to go to. Go ahead. Oh, you said you had one more thing. Go ahead.
David Lee Corbo
Well, the. The other thing is that I, from where I'm sitting, recognize that it looks as though the elites, right, for lack of a better term, whatever the hell you want to call them, are manufacturing end times prophecy. There are things that are happening that are coming to pass that I recognize as being manufactured. And blatantly. And so I go for a while, I kind of go, well, you know, maybe there is this desire to almost be an accelerationist. Maybe if you can bring about the end times, then knowing when it can happen, or at least forcing it to happen, will give you somewhat of an upper hand. Even though we know how the story. Story ends. But, like, this makes a lot more sense. You're manufacturing end times prophecy so that to the average person, it looks as though we are experiencing, you know, the book of Revelation manifesting in our generation.
JT
Right?
Paul
That is.
JT
So they. They manipulate people through fear. Right? So, like, again, as I was saying with Tucker is like, so if you don't believe in aliens, well, I can make you afraid. You believe in demons, don't you? Then you believe in fallen angels. Hey, we could do that too. So what I want to say, go back to one thing you said, though. I said, I'm on the same page with you. The mud flood, Tartaria, the old world buildings, whatever you want to call it, did not move me until. It's like, it's the why that matters. So why would they lie about that? And I said, and if you have looked into Tartary or Old World mud flood, the. The long. The. The rabbit hole is deep. And it's. Obviously it's. There's. In. Trying to piece this together is difficult, but what we know is there was something that happened probably late 1700s, maybe early 1800s. We're not really sure about the timeline, but it looked like there was some kind of cataclysm. That's why buildings are, like, buried. The first couple floors are buried. Sometimes it's like six feet. Sometimes it's like, literally, like, there's, like, places like Seattle, there's like, underground Atlanta, there's underground. All these West Coast. The timeline Makes no sense. Around the west coast as well. Oh, every city in America had a great fire. Like you look them up, they all burned down, but they all got built again very fast. The, the architecture makes no sense. And there was insane asylums back in the 1800s and 1900s, like that we don't have anymore. There was 150,000 people in the same asylums, 250,000 kids on orphan trains. And they say, so what? So what? We what? The people who believe in just the mud flood and don't believe what we're saying about this, they already, they are, they would agree with us that something bad happened that they don't write about in our history books and they try to cover up, literally. They're willing to burn books, they're willing to destroy buildings. Like demo the best buildings you, you've either seen or never seen because they don't exist anymore. They will. They were willing to throw people into sane asylums for religious fanaticism, right?
David Lee Corbo
And quickly to that point, why not? If it was just to delete the history of a people, co op the buildings and lie about the history, it's like, no, something about the architecture itself done that too.
Paul
They've done that.
David Lee Corbo
But I think on a large scale, if you left the footprint of, of, you know, what you imagine would be the grandiose level of, of, of, you know, Christ kingdom, that would be a lot of explaining to do. You could explain away a couple of buildings, co op them and say, no, this was, you know, Greek architecture, whatever. But, but that, that's something entirely different.
JT
Well, if you put it. But if you believe all the things that, like I said, you believe all the things they were willing to do to hide this previous, more advanced civilization. Like, so what would they be willing to, like what would they be trying to hide? And then so you think about what would be the biggest thing ever, what would make all the other conspiracy theories pale a comparison? The fact that Jesus came back, he had a kingdom, he had an epic. There was, there was. We reached a peak of civilization at some point, and now we're on the downward slope. And the controllers, the elites, they trace, they try to take credit for stuff. And the stuff that they, the advancements in technology are literally them just kind of re releasing old tech as stuff that they created.
David Lee Corbo
It's the biggest one, guys.
Top Lobster
It's the biggest conspiracies. And like, why only a thousand years? And, and then also again, just to bring it back to the, to the Jewish stuff. If this all already happened, the Jewish stuff Doesn't matter. So this is just another op, whatever's going on in Israel, because it does feel like an OP at this point. Especially like we're being pinned up for really no reason at all if this is not even on the table anymore.
David Lee Corbo
That's a great point. You and I talk about it all the time. It's like, well, why are they suddenly allowing us to hit the apex of noticing? Why is it culturally being pushed and. Because it doesn't matter. But it's, it's a, it's a red herring. It throws you. This is messing. Please go, go.
JT
Right around the same time that they came up with the react, the rapture theology that I don't believe is biblical, they came up with the support Israel no matter what theology. Where, like, if you read your Bible, God didn't support Israel no matter what. Like, I mean, just read it like. So the idea that, like, if you, if you find things that are unseemly happening with Netanyahu and his government, like, as a Christian, you're supposed to not talk about that, you're supposed to not care about that. You're supposed to not try to hold them to a certain standard like everybody else is held to. Isn't it kind of the perfect cover that if you know who established that nation in 1948, the families who established that nation, who own that land. Well, isn't it kind of the perfect cover to do whatever you want? And then you have the evangelicals, you have the government, you have everybody else saying, calling, like, literally willing to call you a racist, a heretic, whatever else, if you don't go along it, yeah, you support terrorism if you're not for this. So, yeah, it allows them to do all kinds of things that the west will just not even look. And then literally, they'll show college kids and say, look at these idiots supporting terrorism. Look, they're crying, they're getting pepper sprayed over here. And you're like, it's like, you guys, like the people that think they're awake, they don't even realize that they're still asleep because it's like they were, they were awake during 2020, right? And they were awake during Ukraine versus Russia. But now they're like following the news lockstep and they don't even realize it. Like I said, it's them manifesting. And like I said, when they start throwing in the red heifer stuff saying, oh, the reason they're fighting is because they don't want them to build a third temple for the Antichrist to go into to declare that the end times are here.
Paul
It's almost as though, like they were also trying to make it seem like prophecy is still being fulfilled. If you. So it's like, you know, the current state, nation, state of Israel when it was established in 1948, this is the promise made to Abraham that the fathers, you know, that they're going to give the land back to them. But if you actually look into it, that was, that was already done a long time ago. I've written it down here, you know, in the Old Testament, in Deuteronomy, Joshua and Jeremiah and Nehemiah. You know, it's explained clearly that, you know, King David and Solomon were in possession of the whole land up into the River Euphrates, as promised to Abraham. There was already. They already had the land a long.
JT
Time and they returned after Babylon. So they also got it back again in the times of Jesus in the. Which, like, they tried to wipe out the whole idea that did the second Temple period ever happened. And so like, yeah, that, that's, that's, that's happened too, but it's also.
Paul
They lost it again after rejecting Jesus. And Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 A.D.
David Lee Corbo
To this, to this point about David.
Top Lobster
Is it possible that we're missing a thousand years? Like, perhaps, like time has been. Oh, yeah, calendar has been messed up.
JT
Well, I think that that's what people have really, really struck. I think, I think that a lot of history, you can, I'm not saying you can trust it, but you can. It's before, like the last couple hundred years. But it does seem like that some people, you know, they, they point out that there was a J or there was an I, and it was, it wasn't really. They, they made it into a one. They literally added a thousand years. Or, or some people say they took it out. I don't think it's quite that simple, but I do think that the timeline likely has been stretched out because that's why, like, there's clear evidence of like, things that, like, are straight up out of the book of Revelation that happened in the first century. But there's things that happen after the first century that sound just like the book of Revelation. Especially, like, I think in like 536, go look this up when you guys get a second. The worst year ever where like the plague happened, famines happened, like, literally they were talking about 50, what, 50 million people died.
Paul
The sun went, the sun went dark.
JT
For, like, for 18 months.
Paul
For 18 months. No, literally every volcano went off. All land shifted. Millions of People were dying of the plague and were literally seeing demons before they died.
JT
Like, it was like literally. It was like literally like a third of the. I mean, like, based on the numbers they give you about how many people lived in that year, it was like a third of all the population died of the plague. Whoa.
Paul
But then you go to the 1300s.
JT
That sounds like the pale horse.
Paul
We're told the exact same story about the 1300 and the black Death and the plague. If you actually look at the recounts and people, the history of that time, the plague was the least of their problems. It was just one of the many horrible things that was happening during that time all across the world. From China, where they say the plague came from, through fleas on rats, but China, everyone was dying in China horrifically. And terrible things are happening and famines and wars and just destruction and fire coming. It was horrible everywhere. And you look at the description of 536 and then the description of 1300s.
JT
Yeah, sounds.
Paul
You realize, I think they're just talking about the same events, but they separated into two different parts of history and claim 800 years.
JT
Well, you know, the funny, the funny. The funny thing about the. The536.6, though, is if you read again, look this up, they'll say that that's when people believe the Dark Ages started. Yeah, it says, think about it like.
Top Lobster
Light without brightness, like the moon during the whole year, wrote Byzantine historian.
JT
Yeah, There's a good YouTube video where it said that there was a. Yeah. And also the Byzantine Empire starts, like, so the Roman Empire ends, and then this Christian empire starts during the Dark Ages. Again, think about, like, when Isaiah, when it says, you know, they call good evil and evil good, darkness, light and light darkness. So the Dark Ages that they created, the grand Gothic cathedrals, all the crazy stuff in Europe, that was the time of obviously just people not doing much. Right. And then. But what if it wasn't the Dark Ages? What if it was the Light Ages?
David Lee Corbo
But they literally call, of course, to invert it is. Is. Is Satan's agenda. And just to your point, you just read that thing about the. It's like, how is climate change if the. At some point in history, the sun went like the moon for 18 months or whatever kind of crazy crap. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Top Lobster
Yeah, the question also, how are we measuring years in comparison to how they were intent, like, intending us to measure a year? 365 days. We got leakers, we got all this kind of stuff. They're saying it snowed in the winter in China. The Bubonic plague happened six years after this. It's. This is crazy.
Paul
I did.
Top Lobster
I didn't. I was not aware of this.
David Lee Corbo
I would have never made it.
JT
You know what? You know, they also established in, in that, right around that time, the current way, we. We dictate the years.
David Lee Corbo
Oh yeah.
JT
I mean, isn't it kind of crazy that there was a time when obviously there was a small sect of Christians, right? And they were persecuted and everyone hated them. Then one day they decided they're going to make it the law of the land. You can't even be anything besides Christian in the Roman Empire. And then they said, we're going to decide to. You know, if you guys aren't aware. They weren't counting down to anything back when they. Before Christ came. But now they decided, they established a timeline where there's before Christ and then there was. Then there was AD the year of our Lord.
David Lee Corbo
It's insane.
JT
It's an insane.
David Lee Corbo
It's an insane proposition. Like everybody was counting down and everybody.
JT
In the world just went along with that. Around 500.
Paul
The Byzantine Empire lasted a thousand years. Yeah, but you're not really. You're not told much about it. The Dark Ages lasted a thousand years. Officially 500 to 1500. And this is around the same time period where the Enlightenment began, where people were leaving behind the dogmatic Christian backwards, keeping us down and suppressed. Stupid way of viewing things. And now we're going through the scientific enlightenment, industrial revolution route where mankind is going to take control of knowledge and information and bring ourselves out of the Dark Ages and into the light. This is Luciferian doctrine. Okay? This is, this is, this is the beginning. And obviously dark to light, right, is inverting. They're inverting the truth. The truth is that the good times ended and the real Dark Ages began. And we're living in them.
David Lee Corbo
You know, to your point too, before, about manufacturing prophecy with this Red Heer thing, which Top and I covered pretty extensively. It's a fascinating thing to watch. You know, on this show we always say like we're. We're not gonna. If you believe us about what we're saying, you're. You follow. Follow Christ, don't follow us. But the. They did. Top, am I not correct? In like there was basically like a, A genetically modified operation, a different type of GMO to, To manufacture these Red Heers. There was an effort put forth as if you can take a sort of technology, you can cool God, you can.
Top Lobster
Put a fish around New York City and that will be your home, abode. And then you could do business in inside of your home on the Sabbath.
David Lee Corbo
So, once again, they're just. They're just doing this. It's like even the red heifer thing, which gripped us and. And gripped the world, for those paying attention, and then, you know, kind of just went away for a multitude of reasons. It's like at the base of it, there's a farm that they're like, they were trying to create perfect red heers.
Top Lobster
You want to know something crazy? I. I bring this up all the time, and nobody's really an expert on it, but I feel like there's something significant with the boneyard, Alaska. This guy that was on Rogan. Oh, yeah, familiar.
JT
Oh, the man. Yeah, he dumped. Didn't they say that they took, like, how many tons, like 40 tons of mammoth bones and dumped them into, like, the east river in New York City?
Top Lobster
Oh, yeah. Well, the Smithsonian. But the people who previously had owned that property that he bought in Alaska, they were like, hey, check this out. And they were giving it to the Smithsonian. They dumped it in the East River. But the interesting part is that he is, like, just burning through the perma forest with some water and finding endless mammoth bones. And then on. On the episode with Rogan, if you listen to it, he's like, well, if we found anything else, it would be illegal and the government would be able to come through and, like, seize the property. So if they're finding human bones, then it becomes an archaeological dig. It's not his property, so he's not going to admit that. But in five square acres, I'm sitting on 10. Not that big. In five square acres, he is burning through permafrost every day and finding more and more mammoth bones. Like, when. When they find dinosaur bones, we don't know what these things are. They're huge bones, and they find one here, one there. Could it be possible that there was a battle or something that took place? Because otherwise, why would all these mammoths or huge things, whatever they are, go to this one small spot and then die there?
David Lee Corbo
Just.
Top Lobster
It makes no sense.
David Lee Corbo
Doesn't make any sense, dude.
Paul
Unless.
Top Lobster
Unless this battle has happened already and it's. Something took place here, something significant took place in Alaska. I don't know.
JT
That's. That's a good call. With the other one is like, Paul, have you ever done any videos about the catacombs under. Under Paris? You guys ever looked into that?
David Lee Corbo
No, I just taken them at face value, actually. Dead people.
JT
That is the weirdest thing. When, like you said, who stacked all those Bones in that underground thing like that.
David Lee Corbo
It stretches for miles.
JT
It is so frightening. But, you know, it's funny, as we were talking before about the mud flood, I was saying, like this. This is what kind of blows my mind is, like, when I was focused on nephilim stuff, we were talking about, like, before the flood mostly, you know, then obviously we know there's nephilim afterwards. But, you know, the real story of, like, the nephilim is like this golden age, or. Which we would know is the days of Noah, which would be wicked. But. So a lot of people, as Christians who believe in creation would say, oh, well, the dinosaurs lived before the flood. Most of them probably died in there, and that's how they became fossils. But with this kind of new thought process, they actually say that, like, there's fossilized cowboy boots they found in a lake. It was like, had somebody's leg in it.
David Lee Corbo
I've heard stuff like that, dude. Yeah.
JT
So the fossils. What if the fossils are not that old? Because you know how fossils are created. Mud covers things very rapidly. There's evidence that mud covered stuff very rapidly everywhere in the world. And I don't believe it was Noah's flood. I believe it was something that happened way later than that. And it's like. So, you know, it's funny the way that the story goes, at least even the way the mainstream tells it. Oh, well, they didn't start finding dinosaur bones until 1800s. Well, maybe because there wasn't a bunch of fossils everywhere until.
David Lee Corbo
Oh, that's a great, great way of explaining that.
JT
Right.
David Lee Corbo
Because it's like, what, did nobody ever dig before? It's like, well, they just weren't there to find until a rapid mud flood happened.
Top Lobster
Let me ask you, because as. As we near this time, it does feel like we're reaching. Like we're Culmin. We're reaching this culmination, this apex. Something's going to happen. And. And we've been saying the nephilim are going to return. They've returned already. What happens here at the end? I know Jesus comes back and with a sword, he's slapping slices down his enemies. But, like, are we. Do you think we're going to see a replication of what happened before? We're, you know, dragons, literal demons.
David Lee Corbo
Like a theatrical. Almost like a theatrical version of it. Right. Like it's gonna take place, but not. It's not going to be the actual one, but it's going to convince us that we're somewhere in the timeline where we aren't.
Top Lobster
No, I mean, I don't know. It might actually happen again. Like, I don't know what's left to fight.
Paul
No, in a way. In a way, you have to remember what Nephilim actually are. They are the disembodied spirits of. Of giants. Okay. Now, they had. They've had many forms. I'm sure they. They had the original form when they were first born, where they were just tyrannical giants subjugating people. Before the flood of Noah, they all wiped each other out in horrible, bloody battles as a punishment for the Watchers who had to watch their own children kill each other for creating them. And then humans started messing with their own genetics and Nephilimifying themselves and merging themselves with animals. And then you get Chimerid hybrids like mermaids and centaurs and all the other mythical creatures being created just before the flood. Then a flood comes. No doubt the mermaids lived through the flood. Probably wasn't a problem for those fish people. No problem at all. So humans who corrupted themselves made it through, but most of the Nephilim were dead. Then the Nephilim came back after the flood in a new form somehow through. And we can argue to the end of days how that happened, but we know it did happen. Could have been the mermaids, who may be. But the giants were still around after the flood, and then they had that form. And then they were all killed through the culling of the lands of Canaan by Israel as they were reclaiming the holy lands for themselves as a promise to Abraham, all the rest of it. So, you know, they all die. But then the spirits became demons, wandering spirits trapped in the Earth. And no doubt, if you give them a body, they'll take it and they're back in physical form. Kill the body, they're still stuck here on Earth as a demon. They don't go anywhere. They wander in dry places looking for any vessel to inhabit whatsoever. That's the nature of a demon. So even if they did come back just before Jesus establishes millennial reign, as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the coming of the Son of Man, as we are told then, yes, there probably was an event during the Tribulation period where it looked like the Nephilim were back again, which is something you're obviously trying to talk about in your own series about the Nephilim returning. But then once they're dead, they're still stuck on Earth again, just disembodied it. Never. It's an endless cycle for these things. There's actually no reason why they can't do it again today, but probably through transhumanist means we're going to build a body for them with a perfectly working.
JT
You know, it's interesting though that to, to that point too, that so what it says, after Satan is released, he deceives the nations again and then he gathers them to, to war with Jesus in the camp of the Saints. And it says, it mentions Gog and Magog. What's, what's kind of fascinating as Paul's across the pond and if you've ever heard of London. Not London, London. Londinium, the old Roman city that's literally like in the runs, the financial basically power of the whole world is in this small sect of London. It was called Londinium. It was like a Roman city that never fell. And so they have this parade every year and they call it the Lord's Mayor parade. And they have these two like statues or edifices to Gog and Magog. Two giants.
Paul
Two giants, yeah.
JT
I mean, it's like when I learned that, I was like, like sometimes you do you think you can't be shocked anymore, but you're like, don't you guys know how the story goes? And supposedly like the mythology of this was like, like some king subjugated these giants to protect like the isle of Britain or something like that. You're like, so, so is it, is it possible that some of these, some of these things could be cyclical and it could be. Could there be giants again toward the end of this? Yeah, I mean, I guess, I guess the main thing is like even I look back at the days of Noah line, some people have said this and now I'm kind of almost more inclined to believe it. It's like when Jesus is saying it's like that the day. It'll be like the days of no one. People were not aware, even though they should have been, the judgment was coming. Because that's literally what he's saying. It's like the repeating theme is, I'm telling these people that this is going to happen. I said, I said you. When you guys read your. Read the Gospels again, just read how often they're talking specifically about judgments coming soon and you need to repent. And so these people are living like there's no tomorrow meant well. They're like, they should be there, there. There is going to be no tomorrow for them at some point. But they're living like that. They got all the time in the world and then one day it starts to rain. You know, judgment comes and yeah, but I think, I think that, I think that that's like on the biblical timeline, if we are in the short season, it's similar in the way that some people would say, oh, all this biblical prophecy is happening. Oh, look, they're going to, they're forming a new world order, a one world government. Well, that fits both kind of paradigms of like you thinking like an Antichrist is going to run it. It's still, they're going to be this, this combination of nations that are going to all do something bad together. And so some of those signs are the same. It's going to be, it's likely some kind of cyclical tyrannical thing where eventually God has to step in.
Paul
Otherwise that's what happens, isn't it?
JT
Yeah.
Paul
He gathers his army, Gog and Magog. And perhaps a good portion of that army is the Nephilim, embodied once more in superhuman robotic bodies or something. Just speculating. Wild, wild speculation, who knows? But they've returned physically again somehow to be a part of this massive army. And it says, whose number is of the sands of the sea. Now that's more than the human population. Trillions upon trillions upon trillions of bodies here to make an army.
JT
Yeah, maybe, maybe it was. Maybe they gave all those evil spirits. Yeah, some kind of a form to.
Paul
Make it literally the number of these, this army at the end for the final great war against the campus saints is unfathomable. It's not 9 billion humans, it's trillions upon multi. Hundreds of trillions. Just numbers you can't comprehend. Can you imagine counting every grain of sand in our sea? Think about that. You know, it's, it's an impossible to comprehend number. But then when you imagine just how many of these spirits are around as well as human population by this point in time, maybe it is an unfathomable large number. But then they make war with the campus saints. Then fire comes down from heaven and just ends it. It's over.
JT
You don't have something. Okay, when you get a second, I want to, I want to go back to. I had a movie analogy and I think this is going to tie it all together. Sure, go ahead. Oh, what I was going to say is. So think about it. So we go back to Tucker Carlson talking about aliens that are not really aliens, they're spiritual beings. Okay. Paul mentioned the one time about Satan's end game. Okay, you guys know where I'm going with this, Thanos. So I did, I did a bunch of videos and of course in ancient Angels. I talk about the fact that the Thanos is really. He shows up. He says, I am. He's the most powerful being in the universe. His ship is called the Sanctuary. If you know, in the first Infinity War movie, he comes in, he establishes who he is. He says, I am. Shows the glove, and his goal is to snap his fingers and make half of humanity disappear. He's trying to correct the universe, right? And so what happens at the end of the movie? He wins, right? Thanos snaps his fingers, half everyone. He wins. And so his goal when he wins was to. To rest. Rest. You know, like he was watch the sunrise on a. On a grateful universe because he won. And so then the second movie starts, Endgame, and they're like, where's Thanos at? You know, where. Like, his daughter knew where he was. He's in the Garden. So not only is his ship called the Sanctuary, but he rested in the Garden. Garden of Eden. And so it's. What's kind of fascinating about that movie is that, like, what they tried to do, which I thought was kind of cheesy at the time, and now I kind of maybe gain a new level of understanding about this. They have to use the quantum realm in order to go change time. And they make a point in that movie to say, well, when you change time, it's not like the Terminator. It's not like Back to the Future because the people's consciousness will remain the same. Things will be different, but they'll still have their own memories. And that's like, hello. The Mandela effect is what they're kind of talking about. It's like that we have, like, you know, in Back to the Future, everybody's. Everybody's different when he gets back. But if it was, like, real, like, well, I mean, if time travel is real, they would show up and they'd be like, what the heck happened? Like, everything around me has changed, obviously, through the loom. Things like the Monopoly.
David Lee Corbo
Oh, that's fascinating.
JT
All of the stuff. And so if you think about it, so if the first Infinity War is a story of Armageddon, because, like, literally at the end of the movie, they fight under a dome, right? They're fighting. They're fighting the last battle under a dome. And Thanos wins the second movie, he shows up and he literally says when they go to fight him again, like, so, like, you know, so like, obviously Jesus wins in Armageddon, right? Things over. So the only way they can win is they had to go back and change things. And so they go fight him again. With all everybody's back and they're all coming through portals at the end to fight to surround Thanos and his, you know, his armies. And what he tells them, he says, what I've got to do this time is I have to wipe out everyone and start again basically. After Gog Magog, what does Jesus, what does God do? New heaven, new Earth, everything's made new again. And like literally they say like did this, this previous universe is not going to even remember because they're going to be gone. And it's like, so the whole story is like that. What if this idea of this, the aliens coming is like Thanos? So like we're, we're presented this alien threat coming. So what if the people thought, hey, this is either fallen angels, this is some, some people actually think it's really aliens. And it's like a lot of people picture New Jerusalem, which it mentions in the book of Revelation that descends down. It's like some people believe it's a floating city. What if just like you see in like movies like Independence Day, this thing shows up in a cloud and the last thing even Christians in the pews would think is this is actually Jesus? Because they would say, well it can't be Jesus because there haven't been a third temple yet. There's been no Antichrist, tribulation hasn't happened. So what do we have to do? We have to band together. As Ronald Reagan said once famously. We got to put away our differences, we got to go against a common goal, we got to save humanity, we got to rally around this cause we need to surround this thing and make war on it.
David Lee Corbo
Oh my God, that's the most disturbing.
JT
But guess what? That if, like, if you go to fight against the, the alien, you might actually be going to make war against Jesus himself. How about that?
David Lee Corbo
So whatever happens, guys, pray for discernment. Ask Christ.
Paul
You've got to. Sorry. You do have to realize though, the idea that there's a city in the center of the Earth is in every culture all throughout history. Like, and the idea it's a floating city is also extremely common. I mean, Alpha talks. Alpha talks with a great presentation. Just going through every single civilization and their obsession with the center of the Earth.
David Lee Corbo
Isn't there one with the Vedic religions where there's like literally a city in the sky that just destroys the crap out of a bunch of things right within the.
Paul
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing is, this is the point. It's been there since the millennium reign ended. Jesus never left. He just went to this place in.
Top Lobster
The middle, you know, wasn't there a Marvel movie where, like, they pick up an entire city and they're going to drop it?
JT
Right? That was. Yeah, that's. That's in the Age of Ultron. Right. Damn it. Gosh, we got to use that clip. That's a good call, man. You know, it's funny. Even Ultron, he. He shows up, you know, he does like the crucifix pose, you know, when he's talking.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
JT
Speech like this stuff is not.
David Lee Corbo
I gotta go back and watch it all. I. I just want to. There's something I want to run by you guys. We.
JT
You.
David Lee Corbo
You. You spoke before, Paul, about Satan amassing an army.
Paul
Right.
JT
This is.
David Lee Corbo
Mentioned it several times during this episode. Top and I are very much into testimony, testimony of people who have had supernatural experiences. And what you'll find is that these people often have throughline patterns in their experiences that one person will have in common with another, although they have no connection to one each other or one another outside of their stories. And we actually interviewed someone who I know we're trying to get back on. I'm not sure if we're making any leeway on that, but he claimed to have been abducted and upgraded for a coming war. And I. I won't go through the details too much because we've talked about it ad nauseam on the show. But the point is, that concept is something that we have heard a lot through supernatural, paranormal testimony. But there are two types. One could be more deceptive than the other, but we'll put that one to the side. There is one that seems overtly like people are having these experiences in dreams or in visions where they are going to some sort of a. A cave and they're being propositioned by someone who is a malevolent entity to join their side for a coming war, almost like a recruitment process. And these stories are very believable if you can get past the fantastic aspect of them and realize that they all share a certain commonality.
JT
And.
David Lee Corbo
And to Jerry Marzinski's point, Dr. Jerry Marzinski is a clinical psychologist dealing with schizophrenia. One of the things that he said is that these people are being told they're hallucinating schizophrenic patients. Hallucinations don't adhere to patterns. And yet Dr. Jerry Marzinski has boiled down about 23 reliable patterns that these. These schizophrenic people will. Will experience. And so in that vein, I don't believe that these are just stories. I believe that once There's a discernible string of patterns. There's a phenomenon happening. And I wonder, because of course, we've already speculated as to whether or not this is Satan amassing his army and doing an actual recruitment process. What, what you guys, if you were presented with somebody that you knew and, and, and told you, like, hey, this is what I experienced, what lens would you, would that resonate with you in the same way?
Paul
Well, it sounds to me like they're trying to propagate the idea that there are good aliens versus the bad aliens. And the good aliens are working through humanity to help us ascend in our consciousness and connect with our spirit guys in the other realms or whatever story they want to tell you. This is an old, an old thing, you know, and they all kind of have varying similarities, but also vast differences. Are they aliens? Are they time travelers? Are they ascended masters? Are they spirit guides? What are they? Well, they claim to be whatever the person they're coming to will believe the most. So, you know, there's deception straight away by the fact that they're not honest about what they actually are. But the message is always the same. You take control of your own evolution and often, like, say, said, we're here to help humanity for a coming war of some kind. Now you have to remember, if that's the game they're playing, then they want people out there sharing their testimonies to propagate this idea that there's some kind of galactic war about to go down and the good aliens want to help humanity against the coming bad aliens. And as the Thanos analogy came, there the programming is telling us that if something turns up that's out of this world and wants to destroy the world, then it's a bad guy. Okay? Now at the end of the day, Jesus comes to destroy the world and create.
JT
Yeah, he would be the bad guy. If you love this place, he would love the world.
Paul
If you love the earth, the world and the things of the earth in the physical realm and don't have your eyes on heaven and the things after this life, then yeah, Jesus is a bad guy. He's come to destroy. He's come to know.
Top Lobster
For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son.
Paul
Yeah. That you. Well, that you should have ever have everlasting life, you know, and not perish after this world is gone. You know, you should keep your eye on the eternal kingdom, not the Earth. Ecclesiastes makes it clear everything under the sun is vanity. Right?
David Lee Corbo
Isn't there, like, doesn't the Bible warn of being in. In the world, but not of it.
JT
Yeah, right. It's like, well, if you love the things of the world, then the love of the Father is not in you. Of course, Jesus tells the apostles that those who seek to save their lives will lose it, and those who are willing to lose it for my sake will find it. So obviously that's like, that's the whole thing where like, it's the flesh versus the Spirit. So I think, like, everybody wants to go to heaven, nobody wants to die. But I think as Christians, we need to be willing to die to get there, because what we're, what we're being offered is much better than this. And I mean, that's kind of the ultimate, I guess, show of like, how much do you really believe? You know, because it's like, if it's easy for me to sit in this chair comfortably and just chat with you guys and say, I believe. But what if you really did have to go still go die for what you believed in? Because, like, you're literally, you're literally giving up all that you have because you believe there's something more. But if you don't believe there's something more, well, then those are. The people are going to seek to save their lives in the end. And it's obviously that's the whole thing where it's like that some people would say, well, if Jesus is coming to do these things, well, how is he good? It's like, because this place is wicked. You know, it's like, as we were.
David Lee Corbo
Talking about before, have you not been looking around?
JT
Right, well, you would say that when you, when you hear stories about like child sex trafficking and all the things that we claim that we all believe what the elites do, we say, when is judge. Like, when is this place going to be made? Right?
David Lee Corbo
Because then when it comes to be made right, a lot of us are going to be like, oh, no.
JT
Right, right. Well, like I said, because it's. Because at some point God is not good if he's not just. And if there is like, so. Because I think we watch the court system, especially in the States, and we say there is no justice here. So at some point people are gonna be crying for justice. It's going to come and it's going to come, but it's like it's not in, you know, it's obviously it's not in the form that people would like it to be.
Paul
No, no, not that kind. Oh, so now I like a form of justice.
David Lee Corbo
Is there another option?
Paul
Yeah, Is there another option where I get to keep my mansion over here? Like is that, that?
JT
Well, that is. Well that is why people talk about the pre. That's why people talk about the pre. That's why people are so in, in love with the idea of a pre trip rapture is. Don't worry, I'm going to be gone. See us suckers, I'm going, I'm going up to the wedding feast with Jesus while the tribulation saints get their heads chopped off. I mean like that's like literally what you hear people talking on. Like tick tock. Oh well guess what? The eclipses come and therefore the rapture is coming. Therefore I don't have to deal with this crap anymore.
Paul
But if you think about that, that's silly because the story tells you well, if you do end up being beheaded for my namesake, you will rule with me for a thousand years. So wouldn't you want to be on earth and sacrifice yourself on behalf of Jesus to be able to rule for a thousand years in a resurrected perfected light body?
JT
Well, you should. Yeah, yeah, you should want that. But, but those kind of people really don't read their Bibles because they don't, they don't have to read that part of Revelation, Paul, because they're gone before that happens.
Paul
I don't have to deal with any problems.
Top Lobster
Friends of the show Ed Mabry actually has a theory about all three being true pre, mid and post where it's just three different waves and he goes through. I, I believe it was some of his justification for it was. Well there's biblical scripture to back up a lot of it. That's why there's so much contentious argument between these three things. And there also has been a couple of raptures throughout the Bible that just happen. So who's to say, right.
David Lee Corbo
That weren't called raptures. Like the, the terminology rapture is never used. But rapture just means to. Yeah. Supernaturally moved or removed. And so if you look at instances in the Bible of people being supernaturally removed, then there is precedence for this kind of thing happening. Although there's no. The word rapture is something that was.
Top Lobster
You know, our theory, me and David's theory that's like set in stone and I will not hear anything about it. Yes, there will be a pre trip, a pre. Pre Trib rapture and that's for the down syndrome and the men, the actual.
David Lee Corbo
Innocent people, the actual innocent ones out.
Top Lobster
Of here and then let's start fighting. But yeah, yeah, I have no clue.
JT
Well, there's a, There's, I think biblically there's a, there's a. Biblically, there's a resurrection. And I think that that's why I think there were people that nobody. There was no word for rapture. I mean, a lot of people get it from 1st Thessalonians 4, 17, when Paul talks about those who are alive and remain will be caught up in the clouds. But I think I almost feel like that it, what it could have said because he says that the dead are going to rise first. Right? So I think what he, I think what he's really trying to say is don't worry you. The, the dead are going to go before you, but then you are going to die and you are going to go after them. Because even in it was in his First Corinthians 15, he mentions like that a seed doesn't go into the ground and become a new thing until it dies. And so he's like, he's saying that that is again, even think about Jesus saying that a servant is not greater than his master. He's the first fruits of the resurrection. He shows us what it was like is that he died and then he was resurrected. I mean like, it's always about the resurrection. And I think overall it's kind of like the main problem with the rapture theology is that you're putting your hope in if even if you believe in the pre Trib rapture, you believe in any rapture, if that's where your hope is. Like you'd have to admit at this point really, I mean, of course, maybe you could say Enoch and Elijah possibly, but you would have to say no one's been raptured yet, so why are you putting all your hope in that? Right. What God is really offering you is eternal life. He didn't say you won't have to die because it actually says there's many scriptures that say it's appointed for every man to die once, you know, and then, then there's. But we want, we don't want to take part in the second death, which is the lake of fire. So God is offering you life after a resurrection. And so people are trying this. That's why I think many people would, would really be upset about what we're saying is because, well, now the rapture has not come and it's like, well again, did your grandparents die? So did they not get to experience what you're hoping for? So like, was there, was there hope in Jesus in vain? Of course not.
Paul
It's not just that though. A Lot of people also are banking on that they get to rule with Christ for a thousand years in some physical, weird sense. Like, I get to be a king over everybody. I get to rule with Christ over everybody else. But again, he's. From what I can tell is the first resurrection are those who were beheaded for his namesake. And obviously, Abraham's buzzing. And those who, you know, his boys, you know, his main guys, they get to rule with him as saints for a thousand years as the leaders in the already resurrected, perfected body. The second death has no power over these ones. They've already. It's done. It's kind of like their judgment's already sealed and they are already in the level they need to be. And it's fine, you know, and then. But there's still people around that are going to be ruled, who are just people.
JT
Right?
Paul
You know, during the millennial reign. And this is who is being ruled over. And these people are not perfected humans. They're just human like the rest of us. And they're still sinning and still making mistakes. And as to, you know, I need to be taught how to live in a kingdom ruled by Christ. That's going to take time, you know, so everything wasn't perfect during the millennial reign, but it was definitely the best it's ever been for humanity in any way, shape or form. And it was just got better and better and better as the thousand years went on. You know, as these cities were built in these and people lived longer. It says, you know, people. People like children at the age of 100, during this time, you know, they actually. It had longevity about them, probably because all these cathedrals were actually healing centers in some way. The water they were drinking was charged with healing powers. People would. It was nuts, you know, and people had. People didn't need money. They didn't have to work to survive anymore. Everything was in abundance, and they had free energy. I think that's free energy.
JT
Yeah.
David Lee Corbo
You guys would be. I would highly recommend looking. Looking into the work of Ed Mabry. He does our Revelation series with us. You would be fascinated in his theories about discovering that the speed of light as a mathematical equation he's discovered that is actually degrading over time, that it's not a constant, and that the degradation of the speed of light is actually why there may have been a time where human beings lived a lot longer and could commune with God more effectively. Because in his opinion, you know, light and the spiritual realm are intrinsically connected. And so if the speed of light is degrading that would be pulling us further away from God. And also, since the electrical synapses between molecules is how our atoms communicate with one another, well, if the speed of light is slowing down and those electrical synapses are light, then the communication between our atoms is slowing down, and it's actually like degrading our own physical forms. It's actually very fascinating. He's a. A biblical theologian, and I would love to see you guys communicate with him, because he's very undermined on that idea.
Paul
You know, I think it's the second law of thermodynamics is that everything's in a constant state of decay. Nothing is. Nothing is actually ever getting better. Everything is always degrading.
JT
The opposite of evolution, which is true.
David Lee Corbo
If you just look around. It's terrible.
JT
The opposite of the Big bang in evolution. Evolution and everything they try to teach us.
Paul
But it's. It's possible. Well, first of all, it proves that everything must have been created all at once and then got worse over time, not progressed to get better. So you're right. But it's possible during the millennial reign that even that was reversed things, people got better during entropy ended.
David Lee Corbo
I think that that is actually something he would agree with.
Paul
Yeah. But once Christ left and went further away from us, God got further away and his kingdom ended. We got back into this state of shorter life. Everything got worse, and illness crept back in, and everything got worse. You know.
JT
I think we can agree at this point, who've lived a little while, things are not getting better. No, no.
David Lee Corbo
Rapidly, actually. We've hit a. We've hit an exponential pace. Right now. We're like. We're really sprinting towards.
Paul
I feel horrible. I don't know about you guys.
JT
There was a funny. There was a funny. You know, there's a funny meme that, of course, they say, because I'm like, I'm a kid of the 80s. I'm a lot older than you guys, but it was funny. And Back to the Future, too was like when we watched that movie back in the day. It was like, oh, the future is going to be so awesome. Hoverboards. Everything is going to be so great. And now it's like the meme was no hurry. Let's go back to the 80s. And it's like, that's exactly what.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, we got to 2024, and kids are just lobbing their penises off.
JT
Let's go back. That's the funny part, is like that. It really is. It's like that. That in our short Lifetimes, like things have degraded. And I said, I think that. I think instinctively when you kind of look in the old world stuff. And I said, I even say like when you get into the sound resonance and the healing stuff, like I said, go into like a gothic cathedral and like listen to a choir. And there's something like that. It's even haunting, like, in a good way though. It's like. Like something about. Makes you just stop and like, what is. What is this? And then meanwhile, like today, like listen to the stuff that they play on the radio, like. Like rap music, for instance. It's like I obviously, back in the day, I love Nas X. I mean, not even that, but I mean just like the mumble rap stuff. I mean, it's horrible. Yeah. Like this stuff is like, it's not even music. And I used to think about like music you remember hearing, like musicians saying, we're going to change the world with our music.
David Lee Corbo
They did.
JT
I didn't realize how serious that that was. When you realize, like, again, like you have like Aleister Crowley that are. Is kind of like the push behind this movement in the 60s of rebellion, like, you find out like the megahertz, they changed the megahertz between like, used.
David Lee Corbo
To be 432 was like, don't get top started.
Top Lobster
I was like, yesterday, I gotta make 432Hz great again. I saw some dude in the store, he's like, what's that mean? I was like, have a seat, sit down right now.
JT
No, but I'm saying, isn't it. I mean, like, when you hear, like, you think that they're empty phrases by just some kind of hippie dippy musician. We're going to change the world. And then when the Beatles are putting aleister Crowley on Sgt. Pepper's their album, and then they're singing songs like revolution. They mean it.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
JT
And like, so back in the day, music was about healing. And then it became about rebellion. It's almost like the devil is back and he's released. He's got his anthem Revolution Rebellion.
Top Lobster
We stopped with wondering. He's a. He's like a classical pianist, but he's. He specializes in ragtime. And me and him were nerding out on chord sequences and we were talking about the money chords, which is a 141465 or 11564 and then repeat, repeat, repeat. And I was like, well, why is that significant? He says, well, it creates this feeling of like you're going somewhere. Where?
David Lee Corbo
Travel.
Top Lobster
Yeah, the feeling of travel, of movement, of of something happening, but nothing's happening. You're in like this dirty cup of water and we're spinning the water so it kind of feels clean, but after a while you're really in a fish tank and you get that. That murky smell. Whereas this older music, we're moving through keys and modes and. And you're just. There's actual movement and it's keeping things fresh. And it probably has something to do with. It's probably affecting your soul right.
Paul
When you.
Top Lobster
When you're moving through time and space with this kind of. It's just soul vibrations. So they've de. They've degraded that and then they've degraded it to another level by changing the frequency, by I then adding lyrics and then talking about, you know, wow, all this stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's. It's the lowest form of music probably that's ever existed to mankind.
Paul
Rick, at the end of the day, we.
Top Lobster
Ricky in the chat, guys. Rick. Rick Raquila. Rakala. I don't know. Say his last name. What's up, man?
David Lee Corbo
What's going on, brother? All right, so we have to bring this in for a landing because. Because Top has to go. What I. What I would like very quickly because he only has a few minutes. This is the little season. If this is the little season, what comes next? Biblically, how does this end?
Paul
A war.
JT
A war.
Paul
A huge, incomprehensible war. I'm not talking about petty skirmishes between humans with guns. I'm talking about our biblical proportions cosmic battle in the sky. Something incomprehensible that we've never seen before and we'll never see ever again. We're talking like something huge here. That's the end. That's the end, you know, and. And it will be a war we will not win, let's put it that way. It's going to be. It's the end of all things and then final great White Throne judgment at the end of time before God, you know, and that's what you better hope you were covered by the blood of Jesus type of situation. But at the same time, we could argue about what the process will be from there. But we do know there'll be a new heaven and a new. And a new earth, in a sense. Well, the earth will at least be renewed, because I think biblically speaking, the earth is eternal. It does go on forever. And he built it to be that way. But it's possible to be like a rejuvenation of the earth as we know it in some way. And they'll be the end of the nephilim, let's put it that way. They'll be cleansed out of, like, parasites in the earth that will be cleansed out of the earth. So we'll be able to actually live a lot more peacefully without those things around, let's put it that way. Because they, they, they are a scourge since their creation. And most of biblical history is about dealing with that problem, you know, and that will be the problem solved as at the end. But that's not to absolve humanity of our own sins and our own problems and our own mistakes and our own pride and hubris, you know, that also will be dealt with at the end as well. And however that goes, it's kind of. You just got to make sure you're on the right side when that time comes. But I've speculated on my channel how this is all going to go down, and I've tried to incorporate all the conspiracies into it. And it does make sense that it's the alien invasion card. We're going to see that happen.
JT
The end game.
Paul
Yeah, it's. We're going to see something like that. And it's going to be basically Jesus and his beloved city, his floating city, his new Jerusalem, which has always been there in the center of the Earth. The cameras are suddenly going to switch onto it right now. They pretend it doesn't exist. Know what? You're not allowed to go there. And all flight paths will avoid it. All boats will avoid it. No camera will ever present to it. People who travel there will never truly actually be going to the sense, even though they believe they are. It's kept out of sight, but it's there, never went anywhere, has always been there or, you know, and it's presumably always will be there now for eternity, you know, but one day the camera will get switched onto it and all of our mainstream media will say an alien spaceship has just appeared. Okay.
David Lee Corbo
Evil nephilim and the fallen have, have.
Paul
Or whatever. Everyone will have their own opinion on the matter, sure. But they'll say, look, this thing's just turned up. Or maybe it's. From what we can tell, magnetic north is actually moving towards Siberia. And it has been for about 200 years from. We went from the other side of America, of the northern coast of Canada, and it's been moving across to Siberia. So it's possible people will start seeing it because it's coming close to land and it's like we can't hide it anymore. So now we need to point the cameras to it and control the narrative. And the narrative will be huge. Mothership has just appeared from space. We don't know what to do. We don't know what it wants, you know, and they'll. They'll. We've sent ambassadors.
JT
Attack it. Attack it. Everybody will say attack it.
Paul
Well, what will likely happen is that the mothership will do nothing because it's just Jesus. He's not there to do anything by that point. Just make his presence known, I assume.
JT
Yeah. The devil. I mean, the way it's written in. The devil is the aggressor. Yeah.
Paul
But to get. But now we need to convince people to go make war with it. So how do you do that? Because it's a scary prospect, isn't it? A mothership's just turned up. What are we supposed to do?
David Lee Corbo
A bunch of false flags that you attribute to it.
Paul
Well, let's release the chimeras we've made in the labs. Let's release the Nephilim robots we've released once more. Let's release the UFOs we've been building since the 40s. Let's make it look like this thing's attacking us. So it's likely the release of everything they've built to make it look like humans are being ripped apart by monsters and aliens from this mothership. And UFOs are flying everywhere, destroying cities with lasers. And they'll say, the mothership. Yeah, they'll probably say, like, oh, all these things, these monsters, these beasts, these aliens. They came from the mothership. It's attacking us, but it's did nothing. You know, it's all false flag, fakery. But then we'll win. Something will happen and a savior will turn up that will push back the initial attack. And then humanity will kind of recuperate and say, okay, we all need to drop our differences. We all need to band together and be as one. We're a united world, civilization and population. We all need to advance our own bodies through transhumanist means and become super marines of some kind. Like Warhammer 40k style. I don't know. But something. It'll all come together at once and people will take a new mark and become hyper new humans or something to go withstand the battle that's coming. And everyone will come together. And wasn't it.
JT
Wasn't it Warner Von Braun who actually said that he had. They had all these kind of deceptions mapped out in the last one was. Yeah, it was the alien card, finally.
Paul
Yeah. And to convince people to band together you, you attack the people with supposed aliens from the mothership and then you point the finger at the mothership.
JT
Right. Well, you know what's funny? It's like in all these, in all these situations too, it's like even though, like I said, I was just breaking down that fallout show, you know, there's, there's this threat of nuclear war. Well, it wasn't the Russians who dropped the bombs in, in the game, in the show. It was the people dropping the bombs on. It was. Yeah, it was us dropping the bombs on us. And I think that like, that's why, like, if you try to, it's another black pill. The whole, I mean like again, these are things are kind of black pills in this. Yeah. Like it's not whatever they're trying to point you to. Again, like as we talked about Tucker Carlson at the beginning, he can say true things. Do not trust Tucker Carlson. Do not trust anybody who's got that big A platform. Read your Bibles. Obviously like the stuff that we were most focused on and the reasons that Paul and I have gotten here, it's not because Ataria, it's not because of Marvel movies, it's not because of any of these other things. Because the Bible actually, when you read it with the lens of the things that Jesus was saying to the people he was speaking to came true. What are you left to conclude after that? And I think that that's why we're asking these questions of like, what could be next? And I think that ultimately as Christians, what should be next? Our focus should be being with Jesus in the place with no more tears forever. And I think that that's, that's, that's why I, that's why I can laugh about Thanos coming up.
Paul
But that's the point, isn't it? That is the true blessed hope. It's not that you get to reign with Christ for a thousand years on earth, it's that forever, the eternal kingdom is around the corner. The true end is nigh. You know, when people walk around with those signs saying the end is nigh, they're actually a lot closer to the truth. And I think we were led to believe that the real end is coming, not this tribulation and a thousand year reign end. We're talking about the end, you know. And again, it isn't something necessary that should be feared. As long as you understand the concept that the physical is not all that there is. And there is an eternal heaven which you can be a part of. And the fear only like, you know, no Weapon formed against you shall prosper. Doesn't just mean your body won't get hurt. It means they can't take your soul. They can't kill that. That's which, that's.
JT
They can't bless. They can't. They can't curse what God has blessed.
Paul
Right, Exactly. Well, that's the end game. And also, obviously, another extra caveat. The good. The good aliens will turn up and try and help us to fight the bad aliens as well. You know, they'll probably push back the initial attack, you know, where the demons are everywhere in the UFOs. The good aliens will turn up and fight back and destroy them and push them back. But it's all. It's just a show like it always has been.
Top Lobster
You know, Tony Merkel's been dealing with a lot of people. Again, we're bringing in for landing. But yes, because Merkel has been dealing with a lot of people and does seem like there's a lot of different sides to this war. Maybe these sides are fake, but there are people preparing on different sides in this faction. So I think you're 100% right. There's going to be a lot of confusion. There's going to be a lot of stuff going on. But as JT said, the reason we're all here and the reason I'm glad that I'm here, because I kind of gave up on Christianity, on the Bible like a while ago, had some falling out with the church, but the church isn't. Isn't Jesus Christ. I think Jesus Christ is in you. Read the book, understand who this guy is. Try to understand who God is, the best that we possibly can as human beings. And when the time comes, it's going to be a fascinating story. A lot of us will be fooled, but if you know who he is, you're going to be able to see his face and recognize him. Whether this is the. The tribulation and the rapture, or whether this is the final judgment, you're going to be able to know. So just get into your book. All this stuff is fun.
Paul
It's great.
Top Lobster
It's great mental exercise and stuff I'm going to chew on, but I know for sure that what I need to do is pray.
JT
Amen.
Top Lobster
Try to really understand what this is, because I don't think even though you have this stuff fleshed out, we still have no idea what this really will look like and how we'll even react when the time comes. So, again, I'm gonna bring it in. I'll let you guys do Your finishing statements. But thank you for letting us host this. Once again, we didn't deserve to host. This is like a meeting of, like, two giant brains, and we're just like, tell us more.
David Lee Corbo
It's like retarded monkeys hosting a really banger show. Okay, can I just say really quickly, this has been very exciting for me because you often think about this great deception. And I go, well, I'm too see it coming. So I know what I'm looking at is more than likely not the whole picture. This just gave me a lot more of that picture. And it's.
JT
It's.
David Lee Corbo
It's incredibly exciting. So this is. It's always nice to hear something new. You know what I mean? So, guys, take it away. Let everybody know, too, before we close out. I know Top has it pulled up your YouTube channels and everything, because this is where the gravy is.
Top Lobster
Yeah, go follow this. Wow. 50,000. That's pretty good.
Paul
Crushing.
JT
Crushing.
David Lee Corbo
Awesome.
JT
Good for you. Good.
Paul
Yeah. Let's see. Go to. Go to YouTube. Guys, I've got everything's in playlists. If you go to the playlist section, I have a Millennial Kingdom playlist. And every other topic you can imagine is all separated there. And I don't know how many videos I've got now. What am I in there? 400? Is it 400? 400. Yeah. It's getting out there, but there's. There's a good chunk of it is on this topic. You can. You can watch my entire journey, when I first even started talking about it, to now. And, you know, I'm just thinking out loud here. I'm speculating about a lot of things, and I'm just reading the scripture and trying to pass it out. I've networked with a lot of other voices in. In this, you know, Joe being one of them. And it's great just to be a part of this, figuring it out. And I'm not saying I have all the answers, but there's certainly some interesting points. I mean, one I never even got to mention is that, you know, the Freemasons claim they built all these buildings. Well, it's possible they just took all the Freemasonry that was laying around after the millennial rain.
JT
They built a lot of lives, you know?
Paul
Yeah. There's so much more we could have talked about is what I'm trying to say. We have just literally just given you a taster of just how deep I.
David Lee Corbo
Know how this is gonna go. People are gonna freak out over this episode. We're gonna run it back. We're gonna do it again, you know, so, so I'm glad that there's a lot more meat left on the bone.
JT
Yeah, I would love to come back on and yeah, what I actually, I really liked what you said, Raven, that like admitting that you don't really know it all allows you to learn a lot more about this. And I think that Paul and I, as much as we have learned, we are still in that place. And that's why we, we approach these topics with a little bit of humility that hey, we are, we are trying to flesh these things out and some people get mad at us for trying to think out loud in these scenarios. But I think that ultimately this is how we're going to learn because it's like we, the wool's been pulled over our eyes and we are just trying to be aware. But yeah, we're trying to be grounded in what God said first and, and after that. It's kind of like I feel like in a time where you have to wonder how the devil could deceive the nations after such a great time, there's nothing off the table that you, that you we can't talk about. I think so. I think that's actually, it's like all the other conspiracies are legs of the conspiracy, like the one that like you can't even fathom how big it is. And I think that's why it's like everything has to be re examined. And so I think obviously, I think it's a blast, obviously connect with you guys. And I said I would love to come back and talk talk about it again.
Top Lobster
Absolutely. And please go follow him on man, you gain another couple thousand followers on there on Instagram. I know you've got a podcast and you have a link tree here. So if you go to his Instagram, JT follows JC click the link tree follows YouTube. You're probably doing audio download stuff.
JT
Yeah, I'm doing, yeah, my link tree shows all the links. But I mean I've been trying to focus more on YouTube lately. But yeah, like if you go on there you can like typically you can find like the podcast from YouTube and I put them on, I put them on Rumble. Eventually I put them on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and you guys can listen to them. But, but I think, you know, like I, I come from the video background so I try to make the, you know, sometimes I've been a little bit lazy lately. I try to make the, the podcast a little more visual. I try to flesh out them by the things we're talking about with pictures and stuff. So YouTube is the best place to. To. To watch. And obviously, I connect with guys like Paul a lot. Doing.
Top Lobster
And we're feeding Rumble, too. We got Rick in the chat. We're feeding Rumble for sure.
JT
Yeah, yeah.
David Lee Corbo
That's where we want to live. Guys. Go follow us on rumble. Because YouTube.
JT
Yeah, I'm on rumble. I'm on rumble, too, JT.
David Lee Corbo
It's only a matter of time until they ban us. I can get. I can almost guarantee you. I don't know when YouTube's gonna ban us, but it's coming. So go follow us on Rumble, probably.
Paul
Yeah, me too. I forget that I'm on Rumble, too, apparently. Yeah, I forget. I don't even upload, but I'm. I'm trying to get the backlog up, and it's taking a long time.
David Lee Corbo
You have to. Dude, you got to diversify where you are, because once. Once we get closer to election season, YouTube's gonna be ban. Hammering you.
Top Lobster
Rick, I'm calling you out. I see you in the chat. This guy is the. He's like one of the head. I don't know his title. He's like the head coordinator of Rumble product development. Product development. Yeah, he.
JT
Well, Rick, help me out. Help me out. Help. Help. Paul and I grow our channels on there because we would love to do. We'd love to do live streams on Rumble.
David Lee Corbo
No, us first.
JT
Us first.
Top Lobster
And listen, if you're following.
JT
A rising tide raises all ships.
Paul
There you go.
Top Lobster
That's right. If you're following Nephilim Death Squad, go follow you understanding conspiracy. If you're following. Whatever. Let's get incestuous. Let's mix it up. All right, guys, this is.
JT
This has been extreme. Okay?
David Lee Corbo
And follow Rick at RickRack on X.
Top Lobster
Yeah, go, Go Hit him up.
JT
And.
Top Lobster
And he'll help you out. He's been super helpful with the whole Rumble thing, and I. I appreciate what they've done. They've given us, like, a real nice base to kind of, like, have some. Some sort of stability, and they're improving constantly.
David Lee Corbo
Like, they're on real tangent right now.
JT
I do put the. The. The too hot for YouTube podcast over on Rumble, so. So I do appreciate Rumble for that, for sure.
David Lee Corbo
Yes, it is live. Thank you, nevermarried dating.com. all right, guys, let's wrap this up.
Top Lobster
Yeah. Thank you guys for coming on. I gotta run. Follow me. Top Lobster dot com. All that good stuff. You guys already know.
JT
Thank you.
Top Lobster
Any last. Any final words?
JT
No.
Paul
Christ is king yeah.
JT
Crisis. Yeah. Amen, brother.
Paul
Amen to that. Yeah. Amen.
Top Lobster
We'll see you later. Peace out, guys.
Paul
All right.
JT
God bless.
Paul
Bye now. The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade me that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what seven. And they have.
Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad
Episode: TIME CAPSULE: The Nephilim Return w/ Paul of Understanding Conspiracy and JT Follows JC
Release Date: July 13, 2025
Hosts: TopLobsta Productions (Top Lobster and Raven)
Guests:
In this episode of Nephilim Death Squad, hosts Top Lobster and Raven welcome two returning guests, Paul from Understanding Conspiracy and JT from JT Follows JC. The discussion centers around the enigmatic Nephilim, biblical prophecies, and the intersection of ancient myths with modern conspiracies.
Defining Nephilim:
Paul introduces the concept of Nephilim, referencing biblical texts that describe them as giants born from the union of fallen angels and human women.
[01:43] JT: “So what it is, is from the Bible. Apparently there's stories of these giants that are the offspring of angels that have fallen to Earth and human beings. And that's what the Nephilim are.”
Origins and Modern Implications:
Paul elaborates on the historical presence of Nephilim and their potential return in contemporary times, intertwining it with modern conspiracy theories.
[03:35] Top Lobster: “So you're talking about the little season, right? That's what that is.”
Already Occurring or Imminent?
The guests delve into the theory that the millennial reign of Christ may have already transpired, challenging traditional eschatological timelines.
[27:24] JT: “I don't know. It's like, it's pretty crazy.”
Paul supports this by citing biblical scriptures that suggest the kingdom of God is imminent.
[03:35] Top Lobster: “So you're talking about the little season, right? That's what that is.”
Implications of the "Little Season":
They discuss the idea of a "little season" following the millennial reign, suggesting a period of chaos and deception orchestrated by malevolent forces.
[27:24] JT: “...if the millennial kingdom has already been established on Earth...”
Lost Civilizations:
The conversation shifts to theories about advanced ancient civilizations, such as Tartaria, and catastrophic events like the mud flood that allegedly erased their existence from historical records.
[51:33] David Lee Corbo: “...if you go, somebody had a vested interest in hiding the evidence that the kingdom of God was here...”
Architectural Anomalies:
They examine Gothic cathedrals and other architectural marvels as potential remnants of these lost civilizations, arguing that their complexity surpasses the technological capabilities of their purported eras.
[54:52] Paul: “...all of these buildings... They do not fit. People with horses and buggies should not have built these.”
Manipulating Public Perception:
The guests hypothesize that current narratives about alien invasions may be orchestrated false flags designed to manipulate and control the population.
[35:25] JT: “...that's what we're talking about here. This isn't good.”
Pop Culture Parallels:
Using analogies from popular media like Thanos from the Infinity Wars, they illustrate how perceived alien threats could be repurposed to serve ulterior motives.
[83:10] David Lee Corbo: “Like, what if the people thought, hey, this is either fallen angels, this is some...”
Scriptural Evidence:
Paul presents various biblical passages to argue that the end times are either imminent or already underway, emphasizing the need for vigilance and understanding.
[45:30] JT: “Like a thief in the night.”
Contrasting Eschatologies:
They critique the futurist interpretation of biblical prophecy, suggesting alternative readings that place the fulfillment of these prophecies in the present or recent past.
[46:31] Paul: “This is the day. It is now. I have come to end all things now.”
Final Cosmic Battles:
The discussion culminates in predictions about an impending grand battle between good and evil, involving the return of Nephilim and other supernatural entities.
[105:11] Paul: “A war.”
Eternal Kingdom:
They envision a future where, after a final decisive battle, a new heaven and earth are established, free from the corruption and chaos currently plaguing humanity.
[115:00] JT: “...Jesus comes to do these things.”
Discernment and Faith:
The guests emphasize the importance of discernment, urging listeners to study the Bible and remain faithful amidst the confusion and deception surrounding end-time narratives.
[116:15] Top Lobster: “...but the church isn't. Isn't Jesus Christ.”
Promoting Awareness:
As the episode wraps up, Paul and JT encourage the audience to follow their respective channels for deeper dives into these complex topics.
[120:14] JT: “Amen, brother.”
Paul [00:05]: “We are being hypnotized by people like this. News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.”
JT [00:58]: “He goes on to say that he believes...”
Paul [45:43]: “This is not for a generation in the future. First Peter 4, 7. But the end of all things is at hand.”
David Lee Corbo [51:33]: “...they are going to steers the movement through trustworthy soft speaking characters who have been homenames for so long, like Tucker Carlson.”
JT [83:10]: “Like, what if the people thought, hey, this is either fallen angels, this is some..."
Top Lobster [94:43]: “...there will be a pre Elvis Rapture and a pre Tribulation...”
Nephilim Death Squad offers a deep dive into the intertwining of biblical prophecy, ancient civilizations, and modern conspiracy theories. Through engaging discussions with experts like Paul and JT, the episode challenges listeners to reevaluate mainstream narratives and consider alternative interpretations of historical and spiritual events.
For more insights and detailed explorations, follow Nephilim Death Squad on Supporter Link and engage with the hosts on their respective platforms.