A (4:17)

Stephen Smith went on Bill Maher's show last weekend, and he talked about how, you know, say what you will about Donald Trump, but this guy actually does what he says he's going to do. And the Democrats don't do what they say they're going to do. He came out and he said that you. He regrets voting for Kamala. What's your reaction to that?

B (4:37)

They regret being on the wrong side of Culture on the wrong side of history right now. And again, I like Donald Trump, but I'm not a huge, I'm not like a big MAGA guy. So let's just go ahead and preface that. But it's clear. Listen, you're presented with the choice of, you know, Kamala Harris or Donald Trump, and it's basically like pretty decent policy and some sort of strategy to fix America versus abortion. This was our choice in 2024, and these people got it wrong. It was an IQ test, in my opinion. So now you're seeing people who, I don't know. Ohson, what do you think? Are they stupid or are they evil? This is the dichotomy that I'm.

A (5:20)

Both. Both, please.

B (5:22)

Yes, I guess we'd have to really think about that. But then as a viewer, as a casual viewer of media and these sort of personalities, you have to then ask yourself, if these people are stupid, why am I listening to them? If they're evil, why have I listened to them before? And who should I listen to next?

A (5:41)

Well, they had a monopoly. I mean, you know, as someone who has worked in mainstream media newsrooms, you know, in New York City, across the street from Rockefeller center, you know, I've produced, you know, live television in the belly of the beast. I've seen how it is, it is created and I've seen how it's fabricated. And, you know, this, it's people really, they don't know the depths of depravity of what is going on that it takes to create for them a live newscast, at least from the perspective of, like, how the legacy media operates. And some people, like, they're watching, for example, the CBS interview, the JD Vance with Margaret Brennan, for example. And I was trying to explain to people earlier how it's like they try and bring, if it's a left wing news agency, they try and bring someone on who is like an idiot, who will sort of basically be like, oh, there's an R after their name. But they kind of agree with everything Democrats are saying, and oh yes, the J. Sixers should be in jail, et cetera, et cetera. But, but they, they try and bring on people who are idiots. But then if there's somebody who's actually intelligent, who's making the right ideas, that who has the right ideas, they either don't bring them on because they think, oh, well, they're not relevant enough, but if they're so relevant that they do want to bring them on, then they will kind of hockey pucket back and forth to prevent them from being able to actually say what they believe. Now, Jon Stewart, speaking of comedians, top lobster, you might know this. Jon Stewart used to actually deceptively edit interviews to make these people sound stupid or idiotic or retarded. And, and in the newsrooms, they do cut it to make the person, they take things out of context and they only show you what they believe. And, and I'll tell you this, most of the people though, in the lamestream media or the legacy media, they aren' stupid, but they are definitely evil. And what they are doing is trying to manipulate us. Because, I mean, let's be honest, like most of New York and dc, they live in a bubble. And it's quite common to go for a cocktail after, you know, your 5pm live show at Fox and then go across the street and be listening to everybody at Rockefeller center talking about how much they hate where I live right now in Jefferson City, how much they hated people where, where I live out in Missouri. They, they despise our culture and they've used government as a blunt instrument, a tool. People. They used people like Andrew Schultz as a bludgeon to try and keep us down and keep, take away our freedoms and take away our liberties. So it is an insidious and evil conspiracy that the legacy media has had, but they're losing it. And, you know, thank God for podcasts like, you know, the Tower Gang and for Wake Up America show, because evil is on the retreat right now. And I'm not, I'm like you. I'm not like a MAGA guy per se. I'm a, you know, liberty guy in the Republican Party. Right? So, but, but evil. Stupid, yes. The stupid people are the tits that they bring out. The anchors with, you know, gigantic boobs that are there to hypnotize you. Right? And hypnotize the socialist titties that are meant to hypnotize and enslave your ass. You know what I'm saying? Right. But that's the stupid. The evil are the puppet masters. You know what I'm saying?

B (8:46)

Right? So this is, again, my gripe with these guys like Bill Burr, even like a John. Well, John Stewart. I wouldn't even consider him a comedian. A Bill Burr. Andrew Schultz, you go down the line of mainstream comedian who's been doing what they're told and has now since changed tune. They're working, but they're, they're not working under their title, okay? As human beings, we operate in archetypes. And their archetype is the jester. And their job, their Specific job role is to speak truth to the King. They're the only ones that are allowed to do this. They've abdicated that duty in the, in the time when they were really supposed to uphold that duty. There's one person, maybe two, like a Sam Tripley and Owen Benjamin, who, I mean, Owen Benjamin really is the biggest example of this, where in 2015, when the whole trans thing started happening, he actually spoke truth to the King. Got completely banned for it. He's living out in Idaho in the middle of a farm because he can't work. They wouldn't even let him work a small comedy club. This is one of the funniest people in the world as a man. So funny that Dave Chappelle still steals his jokes. Andrew Schultz is right there. The joke that you saw about the five foot nine, that's his joke. These are the people that I want to hear from. I don't want to hear from an Andrew Schultz when he could have taken his bag of money at any point, even after the jab, you could have taken it and, you know, floated away on your boat or actually created something where you can speak truthfully. But you didn't. You rode that wave all the way until now. And now it's safe again. And I think it's MAGA Republicans, I think it's Trump Republicans job to start to differentiate between these people and don't let them back on the boat. They were opposed to you. Same thing. I mean, we were talking about Meghan McCain last night. You sent me one of her, one of her recent tweets where she's just glazing Trump again. Well, I remember her in 2021 calling for January sixers to put them under the jail. Right. And are we going to let these people back in, into civil, polite society, Let them take their money and let them go? Or if you're, if you're a more of a revenge type mindset, then do whatever you got to do. But for me, I'm very happy with telling them, fuck off, we're done. We've heard from you. You've been wrong multiple times. And that's enough. New shooter. Who's the next person up? And when that person falters, we find the next person. This is a big, big field and everyone has something to say. There's plenty of talented people. We don't need to continue to hold on to this old guard and listen to the old shit and the old lies that they've been told to tell us.

A (11:23)

I like the jester analogy. I think that's very important because that you really latched on to the importance of the role that comedians play in a free society. In order for civilization to function, people have to have release valves for the pain and suffering that most, most people feel in their daily lives. Because, you know, the. One of the epicenters of the, the Trump revolution centered around the, the pain and suffering of the average person when it came to price inflation. And this is something that they just don't feel the pain of. They don't experience it. Because first of all, most people like Margaret Brennan and Stephen Smith and, and Andrew Schultz and stuff like that, these people, they don't do their own grocery shopping or they can order, afford to order every meal on doordash. They don't have to go to the grocery store, see the rising price of eggs, and deal with the fact that, you know, I've got a child. You know, when I have to go to the grocery store, I've got to buy a $50 bucket of, of baby formula. Like, they don't have to worry about these things. They are immune to the problems that they are creating in Washington D.C. and it used to be though that like, comedians weren't necessarily always as powerful in society as they have sort of become. I mean, it was kind of the Jon Stewart era where comedians used to be something more like, it used to be more of a fringe of society phenomenon. Like if you were a comedian, like, you were still kind of like, you know, a jester in the sense that you weren't sort of empowered to the level that people are today, where you have Netflix specials and people are. People actually listen to Jon Stewart. You say he's not a comedian. I kind of think he is, but I mean, he really. He used to be. But people listen to Jon Stewart and Jimmy Kimmel and they listen to Stephen Colbert. They listen to these people as if they are actual news hosts, right? Like they have been, they have been mesmerizing people. And I think you're right to say, agree, don't, you know, forgive them, don't bring them back into the fold because they're only doing it because the culture has gone our way. So Owen Benjamin is the name, is a name of a person that you like? Sam Tripoli, I don't know him. I'm not familiar. Are there any other comedians that are out there today that like, are really funny who, you know, maybe never really got into the woke mind virus? Maybe Shane Gillis. Any others?

B (13:46)

Shane. I mean, Shane Gillis is great. A lot of these guys, a lot of these guys, and I understand it, too. They'll. They want to do comedy because they are comedians at heart. So they'll see the political and they'll either shy away from it. Like one of my favorite comedians, Louis J. Gomez, he's the creator, owner of Gas Digital. He sees politics and he's like, I don't think. I'm not even gonna address it. I want to do funny. And that's great. You know, that's his lane. Do your thing. If you're a Dick Joe comedian, more power to you. I love that kind of stuff. But there's other people that, you know, they decide to dip their toe into this politics game, and then they realize that there's some money in it, and then they move in that direction. They also, you know, they come in with a very funny background. And now they're. Again, like I said, they're not working under title. Their title is Comedian Jester. Most of them are working as, like, a Stephen Colbert. I will consider more of a social engineer level 3 or something like that. Like, there's, you know, there's levels. He's one of the higher levels of social engineer. Do what you're told. Here's your script. Make the people laugh. Fake applause. So I have a lot of disdain for those people. There's a lot of Dick Joe comedians. That's fine. That's fine by me. But, you know, if you don't want to get into this game, we're in the political commentary game, sort of. It's not something I intended, but we're in it, and you see how kind of gross and disgusting it is. So I get wanting to have your hands off of it, but just be a comedian. And also to say comedians, jesters, historically, not the highest paid. Yes, they weren't millionaires, but these were people in the king's court. They're there to keep the king in line because they're the only ones that could present him with the truth in a funny manner. If you can make somebody laugh, you can make them. You can make them second guess what they're doing, you know, Otherwise, if somebody criticized the king, you get your head cut off. That's specifically your job. You've abdicated the duty, but you're still pretending like that's what you're doing. It's disgusting.

A (15:40)

We're speaking to top lobster here on the Wake Up America show. Here's some fake applause for you, sir.

B (15:45)

Thank you, sir.

A (15:46)

Glad to have you here. Some canned applause, but it's. The audience is definitely loving what they're hearing this morning. So if you're enjoying Top Lobster's opinion, make sure you follow him over at X at Top Lobster. That's not lobs, that's lobster, not lobster. He joins us live here on the Wake Up America show. We're glad to have him talking a little bit about comedians, their role in society and how so many Johnny Come lately's have suddenly come around to the idea that perhaps leftist Democrat culture is uncool. Maybe you're not very masculine if you're a Democrat. Man, they are kind of in trouble, the Democrats, in a way, right. They had it all. They like the keys to the kingdom. They didn't even realize that it was slipping between their fingers though, because culture has started to move more in our direction. And you know, it's a good thing that we see people. I think that we see some people coming on board and waking up and, and you know, we shouldn't put that. We should, it shouldn't be like Cenk Wager from the Young Turks where we put him on stage and applaud him or something like that. I thought that was really retarded. But I do want to see more people coming over to our side. I do want to take in new people in our ranks. Just like we kind of brought Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. And some of these more independent minded people over to the coalition. I think, you know, everybody loves a good redemption arc. We just have to make sure that it's legitimate. How you tell, you know, that's a, that's a conversation for another day.

B (17:08)

Well, but let me ask you also.

A (17:10)

Go ahead.

B (17:10)

Yeah. How did this, how did this strategy work out for the Libertarian Party with the big tent strategy? You tell me. What does it look like right now? Because you had a gay dude and a cop as, as your nominees for the Libertarian Party after this big tent strategy, they allowed, remember, the whole liberty unity, right. And allowing everybody in instead of, hey, these people have pretty awful ideas and some of them are just commendable. Maybe pedophiles even. But no, they continue to go on. And now as far as I'm concerned, I think Angela McArdle just stepped down. They're irrelevant. And not just irrelevant, but retarded. You saw what they did to Donald Trump. And I'll be honest, people, you could hate me if you, if you want to. If I was Donald Trump, after the way they treated me. And then after I released Ross, I would have went back and I would have tore up the paper because they were Just talking shit the entire time. These people are ridiculous. I digress. The big.

A (18:03)

No, no, it's a. It's a good conversation. It's important conversation. You know, my. My opinion on the LP is going to be like, you know, harsh with nuance. It's going to be. I mean, it went from the Gary Johnson years, which started out with the best of intentions, and then collapsed into a giant grift with millions of dollars being siphoned off to. To a person who ran the campaign, to, you know, the just disaster of 2020 with, you know, that chick that they had, the BLM chick. And then, you know, this year, you know, the party was so weak that it was defenseless against bringing in the woke mind virus. So, I mean, you know, that's. But again, that's. You're right, that's neither here nor there. They're irrelevant. You know, and I could see Trump being petty and vindictive, but it's amazing that he actually seems to be willing to reach across the aisle and still do what he said he would do for them, even though they mistreated him, treated him like garbage. I agree with you, Top. I mean, and I think, you know, the President would be well within his rights to do so. What really just kind of like gets me steamed, though, is so many libertarians after he freed Ross, again, still talking shit, still saying, like, you know, and not trying to give Angela McCardell credit, that she's. That she's due. Right? That she absolutely deserves. Right? Not saying that she gets all of it. A lot of people put in a lot of hours, especially Ross Ulbricht's mom and a lot of other libertarian activists and stuff, but they just want to talk shit. They don't want to actually do anything. They don't want to accomplish anything. Because here's the thing. Javier Milei proved that you can have victory based around these ideals. And a lot of libertarians hated him for the sole purpose of it. Showed them up for the losers that they are because they can't win now, that now there's no excuse they have to win. And here in this country, Trump has showed that. The power of coalition that. The power of. That the power of MAGA and libertarian ideas. Because frankly, he's. He's the most libertarian president of mine of my lifetime. Right. And probably since Calvin Coolidge. Right. And. And, you know, a lot of MAGA people get pissed off at some of the libertarian stuff that he does. And I'm like, oh, man, this is great for you. I love to see It. Right. But when it comes to how libertarians interact with Trump, you still see these left libertarians out there who, who are seeing him as, like, the heart of all evil. They have swallowed the mainstream media lies. They're, they're beyond hope. They, they're beyond redemption. They're, They're. It's amazing to me that they cannot see what is directly underneath their noses. But that's, that's a lot of people. Lobster. And I mean, we could bitch about them all day long. My last question to you here on this subject is, where do you think we go from here? Because we really only have four years of Trump, and then the threat of the Democrats just walking right back in and wiping away. Like, if the Democrats walked in right now, they could just overturn all his executive orders, and then this was all for not. But, I mean, four years is not a very long time. Like, predict, you know, give us a prediction here. What could happen? What do you think might happen? Give us the odds back and forth. What do you think?

B (21:01)

I was, a couple of months ago, yeah. Right around the election, I went on Liberty Lockdown, and as a surprise guest, Robbie the Fire, that's Dave Smith's co host, was on, and we were talking, and I'm the kind of guy to shoot from the hip and say wild shit. And I said, just, you know, thinking out loud. I said, hey, I think, you know, maybe if Trump wins this election, this is before he even won. I said, if he wins, I think the move here is to go ahead and, like, just go through the voter rolls. And this is funny. Like, I'm kind of making a joke here. Go through the voter rolls. Anyone who voted for Kamala Harris, suspend them from voting for, like, 10 years or something. This was an IQ test. You failed. And the reason I said that is because I feel like we're in the point in America where you have to play for keeps. We're in the point, not just in America, but globally. Things are. We are dancing on the edge of a knife here. And if we make the wrong decision, we're not going to have anything to give to our kids. This whole experiment will be failed. And it's this close to failing. 4 years can't fix it. Although he surprised me, he's coming in three days and kind of, you know, alleviated a lot of the social tensions, a lot of the, even some of the economic pressures just with a couple of executive orders. So he can definitely make some good changes within the next four years. But I think you need eight. I think you need 10, and I think you need 12. I think the other side should not be in power again. But this also then brings up some caution, because what I'm seeing right now, and what I'm really worried about is a hard swing to the right, where instead of us swinging to the correct right political spectrum, we swing a lot further. And I know that you see that sentiment with the whole Jewish. The Jewish thing, which I have been guilty of proliferating. But unchecked, this will swing far to the right. And this guy, if Trump has unanimous 100% consensus in the United States, which it could possibly be, you get enough of these fake celebrities that will back him, we could be looking at a different type of monster, one that's a lot harder to stop than the left. It's going to have different ideals. So where does this go? I'm not quite sure. But what I do know is for right now, you need to keep these people's hands off the wheels by any means possible, if that means embracing some sort of dictatorial tactics. Do. Seems to have worked for Bukele and El Salvador. And that also brings you to the idea of the cartel, which is a whole nother discussion. Can't wait to hear libertarians cry about that war, which is already here and one that probably definitely needs to be fought because it's been going on actually in our. Our borders. What happens, I think we see lovely four years. I think the economy turns up. I think it's going to be great. And what I tell people, what I caution them, is to position yourself accordingly, because what happens after is going to be completely unpredictable, and I don't think people are going to like it.

A (23:56)

You're an interesting and thoughtful guy. Lobster. We. What we need likely is a Cincinnatus, right? We need a George Washington, a person who wields dictatorial power for liberty and then walks away and goes back to his plow or goes back to Mount Vernon and operates as the Society of Cincinnatus is doing in the United States. One of the good secrets. Yeah, it's a big ask. It's a big ask. You give me a lot to think about today. Top love. So I'm glad we had John. Anything else that you think that we missed or covered or anything you want to plug before we let you go today, sir?

B (24:33)

We didn't talk about God or Jesus Christ on my show, Nephilim Death Squad. We talk about current events through a biblical lens. And I know I, you know, I come off kind of brash on Twitter and also on Tower Gang. I come off very offensive and racist, but that's a show where we're doing deep dives into what we think is actually going on. I suggest, and I hope people go over there, Nephilim Death Squad on Rumble. Don't go to YouTube. YouTube is gay. Go to Rumble. Listen to us on audio. That's my bread and butter right there. So thank you, guys. Thanks for having me on a great conversation.

A (25:04)

Keep dropping those hot takes over on X and we'll keep booking you here on the Wake Up America show. Thanks so much for joining us and. And have a great week, man.

B (25:10)

Peace out.