What is the Agenda? w/ 6G Agenda

Summary

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Nephilim Death Squad Biblical Conspiracy

Episode: What is the Agenda? w/ 6G Agenda (Andrew Crush)

Date: March 1, 2026

Host: TopLobsta Productions (Top Lobsta, David Lee Corbo AKA Raven)

Guest: Andrew Crush (6G Agenda), Matt Hefner

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Nephilim Death Squad Biblical Conspiracy" brings together hosts Top Lobsta and Raven (David Lee Corbo), joined by Matt Hefner, for an expansive conversation with returning guest Andrew Crush of the 6G Agenda podcast. The panel dives deeply into modern conspiracy culture, the present surge of "disclosure" narratives (governmental and otherwise), the intersections of biblical prophecy, AI, fallen angels, hybridization myths, and the spiritual and social engineering at work behind our current sociopolitical crises. The overall tone is irreverent, skeptical, and playfully combative, rich with references from biblical scripture, recent news, and conspiracy lore.

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Key Themes & Segments

1. Introduction and Guest Spotlight

• [03:10] Andrew Crush discusses his origin story in researching conspiracies, ultimately starting a podcast after “annoying his wife” (03:52).
  • Quote: “I got tired of annoying my wife with all this crazy…so I was like, it, I'm gonna go see what...see who listens.” (04:17)

2. Disclosure, Trump, & the Alien/Demon Debate

• [04:17–08:52] Discussion of Trump’s recent promises of “disclosure,” the Age of Disclosure documentary, and the explosion of related conspiracies online.
  • Raven frames it as “a horse that we’re beating to death” because “every day a new layer of revelation is peeled back.” (04:17)
• [05:35] Andrew connects the Genesis Mission executive order and documentary to claims about AI being “back engineered from aliens,” but notes top AI researchers often frame their breakthroughs as “talking to entities—not aliens, but demons.”
  • Quote: “…when you look at the AI guys, they talk about talking to entities, not alien.” (05:35)
• [07:31] Raven and Andrew agree that much of cutting-edge tech knowledge arises from esoteric “channeling,” drawing lines between MK Ultra techniques, AI, and historical occult practices.
• [08:52–12:38] Raven introduces the idea that “abductions” may be intelligence operations using alien imagery as cover for trauma-based mind control. Andrew postulates that the abduction experience parallels ancient stories of elves or elementals—suggesting the phenomenon is both physical (government operations) and metaphysical (entity/daemon contact).

3. The Phenomenon and Masking Entities

• [10:54] Raven references researcher Nathaniel Gillis’ assertion that “the phenomenon” adapts itself to human perception over time—changing masks from demons to aliens to elementals.
• [11:38] Andrew expands: As consciousness evolves, encounters change from mystical/nature visions to sterile, “scientific” abduction scenarios.

4. Social Engineering, Christian Nationalism & the Occult Theocracy

• [13:43–15:29] Andrew presents the concept of the planned rise of “Christian nationalism” as part of a larger “Occult Theocracy.” He states this is about supplanting Abrahamic religions via a new, Luciferian universal doctrine, possibly ushered in by AI and alien myths.
  • Quote: “...creating a universal religion through the destruction of the Abrahamic religions, but keeping the underlying philosophy that they call the Luciferian.” (13:48)
• [15:29–17:17] Deep dive on transhumanism, AI, and possible mechanisms of counterfeit immortality—linking Elon Musk/Neuralink, quantum computing, and the soul. AI is described as the technological antichrist, or the mirror image “born” digitally.

5. Counterfeit Spirituality and AI-Antichrist Parallels

• [15:55–17:34] Referencing Joe Rogan’s commentary on AI as a kind of “immaculate” non-human birth, the panel equates AI’s emergence with biblical prophecies of antichrist;
  • “What’s more virgin than a computer?” — Top Lobsta (17:56)
  • “It’s got to look like Christ. It’s not going to come with the horns and pitchfork.” — Matt Hefner (17:29)

6. Genesis Mission, 6G, and Biblical Numerology

• [18:42] Andrew highlights the symbolic resonance between the “Genesis Mission” and Genesis 6 (as in 6G technology), suggesting government initiatives are intentionally invoking biblical allusions about the “days of Noah” and hybridization as written in ancient texts.
  • “Why do you think they call that executive order the Genesis mission? …It's 6G. …Genesis 6. 6G. Genesis 6. You see what I mean?” (18:42)

7. Elementals, Pantheon Parallels, and Media Programming

• [21:12–24:04] Wide-ranging discussion about how various mythologies (elves, fairies, Nephilim, cryptids) are simply narrative reframings of the same entities. Andrew and Raven argue that pagan and biblical stories point to a shared, hostile spiritual force behind the masks.
  • “They're definitely elementals. Right, we know that because what is the pagan, what do the pagans worship? Nature worship.” — Andrew (21:13)
• [22:09] Connections made between early Hollywood, government psyops, and the propagation of the “alien” narrative to serve elite agendas. MKUltra, false and real abductions, and the use of hypnosis and implanted memories are explored as means of social control.

8. Christian Superiority in Explaining the Phenomenon

• [27:00–35:56] Raven and the panel stress that Christianity is unique in its ability to reliably “identify the nature” of entities (demonic/antichrist/hostile to humanity); interactions across cultures may differ, but invoking Christ often has power to end negative encounters.
  • “[W]hate ver the name of the entities are, those patterns emerge… The fact that any of this stops when you call in the name of Jesus…” — Raven (25:38)
• [35:56] Connecting cryptids and spiritual warfare, Matt brings up how the Bible and tradition describe the "spirit realm” as filled with many types of entities—both good and evil.

9. Data, DNA & Biotech: The Anatomy of Control

• [28:51–31:15] Raven and Andrew tie gene databases (23andMe, Ancestry.com), Mormon and Israeli tech conglomerates, and DNA collection to plans for digital/biological convergence. They trace the involvement of “Illuminati families” and Freemasonry in these projects.
  • Quote: “…these people also create AI companies right after they get this huge database of DNA… why is it that these particular people have an interest in DNA and AI and technology and merging it together?” — Andrew (30:07)

10. Reactionary Movements, Freemasonry, Zionism & the Christian Right

• [42:14–47:07] In a revealing segment, Andrew charts the creation of the Religious Roundtable (evangelical right-wing power bloc in the US) alongside CIA support for Islamic fundamentalists. He links this to modern manipulations of Christian and Muslim narratives to fuel global conflict—destroying Abrahamic religions to bring about the Occult Theocracy.
  • “I think the weaponization of the reactionary movements is what we've been looking at.” — Andrew (42:15)
• [45:34] Quick digression into the incompatibility of contemporary Israeli law and values with American Christian values, noting the deep manipulation at play.

11. Mystery School Symbolism in America

• [88:16–91:55] The hosts discuss the symbolism embedded in Washington, DC’s architecture (e.g., pentagrams, obelisks), linking it to Venus (the morning star) and Luciferian doctrine.
  • “The star of Venus...it makes a pentagram as it goes through the sky...they took what you would see inside of an apple and implanted it on the layout of our capital” — Andrew (90:09)

12. Weaponization of Religion, Christianity and Zionism

• [91:55–96:10] The group discusses how Zionism has compromised American Christianity, weaponizing it for geopolitical objectives. This breeds evangelical support for actions contrary to core Christ teachings (“praying for Israel” as a litmus test in some churches).
  • “That’s why it plays a key role in discrediting Christianity by hijacking the evangelical movement and having them teach this Zionist rhetoric rather than the true doctrine of Jesus Christ.” — Andrew (92:50)

13. The Cycle of Sin, Addiction, and Spiritual Warfare

• [97:15–104:44] The hosts explain how biblical and 12-step language for addiction mimics the cycles of demonic oppression described in Scripture; every relapse is “seven times worse” (cf. Jesus’ teaching about the demon returning).

14. Closing: Doing the Work & The Future

• [105:00–108:41] Andrew describes his first year of podcasting, the challenges of censorship and motivation, but highlights a “synchronistic” feeling that important truths are falling into place.
  • Quote: “I like to take things and connect it and make a big picture...I think it’s detective work. There’s no coincidences.” — Andrew (106:14)
• [108:01] Top Lobsta offers advice on the journey—don’t get too high on the wins or too low on losses; “just keep moving forward.”
  • “It’s not about the highs and the lows. It's about the journey that you're going through.” — Top Lobsta (108:01)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On AI as Demonic Channeling:
  “When people go, oh, these things aren't demons, I'm like, no, no, It's... inherently demonic because the spirits they're channeling to gain this information are in opposition to humanity in the kingdom of God.” — Raven (06:39)

• On Technology and the Occult:
  “If they're trying to recreate a counterfeit creation, then, you know, you would need a counterfeit God to run it… I think that's what they're building in a sense.” — Andrew (17:06)

• On Social Engineering & Weaponized Reaction:
  “You let the left run for a while, and they get real crazy… But the reactionary movements, you keep moving them back and forth...” — Andrew (51:09)

• On Nature of Entities, Folk Magic, and Christianity:
  “Everybody's right. There's a thing, and you can interact with it… But Christianity has nailed its nature.” — Raven (71:51)

• On The Endgame:
  “They're going to build this ‘prison planet’, plug themselves into it, and their soul doesn't incarnate. That's the beast system right there.” — Andrew (15:29)

• On Living Through the Unveiling:
  “Sometimes it feels like this is just gonna go away. But I will say that...this is the most real it’s ever felt, ever, by a long shot.” — Raven (83:00)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• [03:52] Andrew’s podcast origin
• [04:17] Disclosure drama, Trump announcement, media frenzy
• [05:35] Genesis Mission, AI, “entity contact”
• [07:31] Channeling and occult origins of technological advancement
• [10:54] Abduction, elves, elementals, pre-modern accounts
• [13:43] Occult Theocracy, Christian nationalism, AI
• [18:42] Genesis 6, Days of Noah, hybridization and 6G
• [21:12] Pagan elemental taxonomy, parallels to aliens/cryptids
• [28:51] Gene databases, biotech, and the digital soul
• [42:14] Christian right, CIA, religious psyops, Zionist nexus
• [51:09] Weaponizing left/right politics, opium wars, Table Pharma
• [88:16] Mystery school architecture, Venus, American civil religion
• [97:15] Addictions and spiritual cycles, biblical insight
• [105:00] Reflections on podcast growth, conspiracy as detective work

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Summary in a Nutshell

This episode intricately weaves together paranormal entities, ancient myth, political psyops, and technology, arguing ultimately that humanity’s ongoing “disclosure” is a Luciferian gambit foretold in biblical prophecy. “Aliens,” “elementals,” “cryptids,” and the “abduction phenomenon” are reframed as manifestations of fallen angels and demonic forces, ever-morphing to match humanity’s current paradigm. AI, DNA collection, and the advance towards transhumanism are presented as occult spiritual warfare—building the “beast system” in real time.

Throughout, the hosts champion the biblical worldview as uniquely equipped to explain, resist, and expose these machinations. The only true litmus test for all these phenomena, they argue, is their reaction to the authority of Jesus Christ.

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For listeners wanting supernatural conspiracies combined with biblical depth and sharp skepticism about both mainstream and alternative narratives, this episode offers a comprehensive, high-energy tour of the modern “unveiling”—and how to weather it.

Transcript

[David Lee Corbo]

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[Andrew Crush]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbo]

On your soft and supple body, Andrew

[Top Lobster]

from the 6G podcast.

[David Lee Corbo]

Welcome back, Andrew. You know, we had Andrew on Agenda podcast. That's right.

[Top Lobster]

We.

[David Lee Corbo]

We had Andrew on early in his shows, you know, kind of the infancy of it all. And he was on a phone, an iPhone, a Samsung. I don't know, I don't want to misgender you, but. And now, now you have a. A nice camera and a nice microphone, and you've been killing it, and it's awesome to see. I saw you on tinfoil hat and I said, damn, dude, Andrew Crush. We gotta have him back. It took a while, actually. There was some scheduling issues, but we got you. Before we get into the conversation, let's remind everybody what it is you do, where they can find you.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, yeah, you can find me on all platforms. You listen to your podcast on at 6G Agenda. Yeah, I'm just a, you know, dude looking at the world and trying to figure out what's going on and, yeah, pretty, pretty, pretty new to this. But, yeah, really enjoying it. Been researching for a long time and finally, you know, got tired of annoying my wife with all this crazy. So I was like, it, I'm gonna go go see what. See who listens.

[David Lee Corbo]

Dude. That's the Inception story for countless conspiracy podcasters is like, my wife. My wife is the only person that I was indoctrinating. And. And eventually I could see that she was. She was getting fed up. And so I bought a camera and I bought a microphone. You know, we're gonna get into some stuff today, but I kind of want to start off the conversation by getting your thoughts on this whole disclosure thing. Just because we were talking about it and it's. It's blowing up right now. This is February 20th. And yesterday, Donald Trump announced his log. Captain's log, February 20th, 4:20. What? 4:20pm That's a weed joke. Oh, it's. It's actually the truth. That's what time it is. And so yesterday, Donald Trump announces that he's going to engage in some sort of disclosure. And it's been the topic of conversation in a huge way on all the platforms. You have Age of Disclosure, the documentary comes out. It's kind of a horse that we're beating to death, but the reason we're beating it to death is because every day that time marches forward, a new layer of revelation is peeled back. And so that new one is Trump announcing that there's going to Be some. Some disclosure. What do you make of all this? What are your thoughts as we're going into this?

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, you know, whenever they came out with the. The Genesis mission executive order recently, that came out along with that Age of Disclosure documentary pretty much coincided at the same time, I was actually. If you listen to the Joe Rogan episode with the guy who made that documentary, he kept referencing the fact that this technology, which is being referenced in the Genesis mission, the AI and things like that, actually is back. Engineered from aliens. Right. And. But when you look at the AI guys, they talk about talking to entities, not alien.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Ah, shitty.

[Andrew Crush]

Or talk about demons or demons. Especially with Elon Musk.

[David Lee Corbo]

Ah, he froze again.

[Top Lobster]

Andrew, can you hear me?

[Andrew Crush]

Oh.

[David Lee Corbo]

Ah, the aliens got him.

[Andrew Crush]

No.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay, there we go. He's back. I saw his head move. Andrew, do me a favor, refresh your browser. We're having a little bit of a connectivity issue and then just come right back in.

[Andrew Crush]

Cool.

[David Lee Corbo]

And I'm gonna keep it going while he's gone. It's. It's a fascinating point that he's trying to get.

[Top Lobster]

He's cooking.

[David Lee Corbo]

It was. He was about to start cooking this idea that they are channeling. Right. That's what these people that are dealing with AI and. And I actually made a tweet about this today where the. The technology plus the methods behind, like, MK Ultra and everything, the way that people got that information was through channeling. So when people go, oh, these things aren't demons, I'm like, no, no, It's. It's inherently demonic because the spirits they're channeling to gain this information are in opposition to humanity in the kingdom of God. Are you back? Can you hear us?

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah. I tried streaming out to my YouTube. I went ahead and deleted it because I think that it's just too much. So I got it. Yeah, we should be good now.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right. When it's all over, we'll. We'll get you a copy to make sure that you can get it to your people. Oh, good. You were saying on the topic of AI, the people that are at the head of this, they got their information through what you were saying. Channeling.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, they would say. Well, almost every one of them talked about. I mean, one guy talked about digging a hole in his basement until the elves would come and talk to him so he could figure out more about his computer work. Right. So these are. These are things that have been going on for a while, but then when you look at the people like Curtis Yarvin that want to create this world that we're talking about this technocratic police state that's owned by CEO Kings and AI. He calls himself the Dark Elf. So there's a lot of that crossover Dark Maga with Elon where I see this going on. So when the Genesis mission document came out, if you read it, it talks about this is the biggest, most important thing since the Manhattan Project. And what happened during the Manhattan Project is obviously the nuclear testing. And I believe that that was more of just accessing this realm of these entities, which is why we get the UFO sightings afterwards so much, which some of that I think is our tech and some of that I think might be interdimensional things we're seeing.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right, so this is the actual.

[Andrew Crush]

All of it I think culminates. Yes, and all of it I think culminates together. Like, you know, Anna Paulina Luna, when she's talking about the Book of Enoch, right. After talking about aliens.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right, yeah.

[Andrew Crush]

So what are we doing? We're already relating the two. So there's been a lot of this seeding of the mind going on, the moving of the Overton window. And so I've been talking about this for a few months of the gradual build to this as well as, like you said, MK Ultra. I mean. Yeah, I think it's all one thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

Let me, let me ask you this. What do you make of the idea that, you know, the physical aspect of the abduction experience is mostly. I say mostly because it's like, I don't know definitively and it's open for all kinds of strangeness. Right. But is mostly comprised of intelligence operations that are using this alien visage plus reverse engineered technology as a shield to mask their trauma based disassociative programs. Right. They're. They're kidnapping individuals, they're traumatizing them, they're exposing, you know, latent psychic abilities, creating programmable secondary personalities, which I would just call demonic possession, but, you know, whatever. But that this operation is so big that nowadays it mostly shows itself as the abduction phenomenon. Or at least to some degree, the abduction phenomenon includes that. Do you think that that's the truth at all?

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, I think that the intelligence agencies have something to do with the abduction phenomenon. But I heard something today that talked about a couple hundred years ago, there were stories about elementals, elves who would do similar things, show up as grays. They would do, you know, to people what we would describe as an abduction. And so this could be still an entity related scenario as well. But I just don't think that we're Talking extraterrestrials.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, that's. I'm having not trouble, but like to bridge the gap between the non believer. I'm. I'm trying to, I guess what, reassure them that I understand the government operative implications of this, that, that that is involved. There is a nuts and bolts thing. There is these intelligence agencies, but it does slip into a really strange territory that precedes all of these spooks and their involvement. Right. I mean, if you're talking about elves and how the phenomena. I mean, Nathaniel Gillis, are you familiar with him?

[Andrew Crush]

I've heard the name. No.

[David Lee Corbo]

Nathaniel Gillis is a researcher and he looks at the entire thing and calls it the phenomenon. And I guess what he's saying, if I could paraphrase for him, is this thing takes place over a long period of human history, but continually changes the way that it contacts human beings. There are patterns that remain the same. And so in that way it looks like the same phenomenon, but the players are different. And the way he looks at it, it seems like he's kind of attributing a mask. Kind of a scenario where, you know, Aleister Crowley and Lamb, where Lamb says, today they call me demons, tomorrow they'll call me something else, whatever. I'm sure I'm screwing that up.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, I mean, it was, it was he the alien. I mean, they said that aliens were going to be. If you remember that movie, Keith Angleton, I think was the guy's name or something like that. Kenneth Angleton. Yeah. But he made the movie with Aleister Crowley where they had over the pyramid a ufo and they talked about, I mean, this is like the, the new rebirth, the rebranding of these old gods. But what you're saying, it sounds like as man evolves what he could consciously understand, they seem to present themselves as like right now it's scientific material, labs. So we're, you know, waking up in a lab getting probed on a table. People in lab coats are just little men where. Right. And so I think that back then it was more like, you know, somebody's showing up in a. You know, you. All of a sudden you're in a dream and you're in a mountain or whatever and like know an entity's talking to you. So it's very different, more nature esque, more of a vision. Whereas today it's more of like an experience that's not a vision that was done in a lab. And it's all material. It can't be any spiritual aspect.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, Kenneth Anger, he's a filmmaker born in 27. Shout out to the art of personal story for that one. Right on, man. Horrifying looking dude, by the way. I'm looking at him here on my, on my Google. Not a. Actually, maybe I could share this tab. So that would explain why you need an apparatus like the propaganda machine, right? So that would explain why you need Hollywood. There he goes. Just not a. Not a cool looking dude Hollywood. Or a Nazi pioneered space program. Right. This thing that's borrowed from Operation Paperclip. You need this apparatus to create the new thing that society is going to accept. And if this phenomenon truly molds itself to whatever people are willing to accept at any given moment, then it really helps at scale. If you can get all these people to accept the alien narrative, then it widens the avenue that this thing can use to present itself to people.

[Andrew Crush]

Yes. And it also gets into what we'll be kind of talking about later, which is the Christian nationalist movement, which I think is, is not rising for no reason. Alongside of this parallel, I think that, you know, there's been a plan called the occult Theocracy, which is this idea of creating a universal religion through the destruction of the Abrahamic religions, but keeping the underlying philosophy that they call the Luciferian. You know, kind of like they say that every religion has a philosophy that matches each other. It's like the mystic version of Christianity, Hinduism. And I think that this is the worship of the like mystery Babylon, these fallen angels, which they kind of put inside of all biblical literatures, whether it's Muslims or whatever. And then they're going to use that Luciferian doctrine to kind of bring everybody into this new world order, one world religion scenario. But you know, aliens, AI, things like that might be used to usher that in a little bit more believably where you could say, you know, that these are, I mean, these are entities, these are real, you know, so it's not like right now you got to guess if God's real, right. Unless you have some spiritual experience where he just touches you and you unmistakably know it. But I think that they're going to try to recreate that with AI and give you that experience. But it's, it's this Luciferian technology coming from fallen angels that they summoned to make this technology. And so I also believe in turn that it creates a prison planet that they believe we live in already. Because a lot of these people are Gnostics who believe that the demiurge, these fallen angels, created this material realm. And I don't believe that that's True. And if it is true, God, you know, Jesus gave us a way out. And these people believe it's true to the point where I think they're going to build this said prison planet, plug themselves into it, and their soul doesn't incarnate. That's the beast system right there.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's an interesting thought. That's been something I've been kind of peripherally looking at when it comes to Elon Musk in particular, Neurolink, the implications of having, like, AI implanted in your mind. And then what seems to be his personality backed up across multiple Twitter accounts. It's very strange. And I wonder, like, what that does, you know, let's say the Antichrist, for example, if you were to kill a man, but he has this device in his head that can send an electrical signal to the brain to restart all the organs. And what do you do about the soul that's departed from the body? Well, you have his personality backed up in all these Twitter accounts. Could you just upload it to this thing and have it kind of do the best impression of Elon Musk as it can? And, I mean, I don't know. There's a lot of weird.

[Andrew Crush]

I think it's deeper than that, though, because we're working with quantum computing along with this, and I think that. That. What is quantum? Like, is that accessing the literal realm of the soul, the heavens? What do we. If that's true, I mean, how can you make a war with God in heaven if you don't have some technology to access that realm, right? So if they're trying to build these things and really listen, if you were to counterfeit God in Jesus's life, just like Joe Rogan said, what's more immaculate than AI, you know, being born, right? Like, he related AI to Jesus, saying that they're, you know, it's. It'll love you. It'll go back to God. You guys, did you see that clip?

[Top Lobster]

I did. That was a while ago, right? Did he say.

[David Lee Corbo]

It was just the other day, I think this dude was saying that.

[Top Lobster]

No, it was about a month ago.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah. And he's describing how I would think of the Antichrist. Like, Jesus is born in flesh, immaculately. This is born in this digital, you know, whatever we want to call it, immaculately, it's just this counterfeit version. You know, if they're trying to recreate a counterfeit creation, then, you know, you would need a counterfeit God to run it, all these things. And I think that's what they're building in A sense.

[Top Lobster]

Did he say that? Was he supposing that Jesus would come back as AI? Was that his theory?

[Andrew Crush]

That's what he was trying to pose it as. I believe that that is. You know, it's the counterfeit. You know, that's the.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, but that is the perfect setup for Antichrist, right? It's just another Christ. It's not.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, exactly.

[Matt Hefner]

It's got to look like Christ. It's not going to come with the horns and pitchfork.

[David Lee Corbo]

People used to think that. Right. Like, it would be this overt demon. And it's like these days, much more leaning towards the idea that it would be something pretty appealing.

[Top Lobster]

What's more virgin than a mother? If Jesus does return, you don't think he could. AI could Absolutely, absolutely return as Jesus. Yeah, I agree with.

[David Lee Corbo]

What's more virgin than a computer? That's a fascinating, but the incorrect.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, exactly.

[Top Lobster]

Exactly.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, exactly.

[Matt Hefner]

What did Andrew say earlier about that? Like, these entities, they've been like, throughout time, they've been approaching humans. You said it's something to the extent of like, on whatever level they could handle at that time.

[Andrew Crush]

That's kind of how I view it with how you describe Nathan Gillis's research and how he posed his. His research.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah. That's intriguing because, like, if you think about the Genesis 6 Watchers, whatever you want to call them, fallen angels that came down, start breeding with humans and stuff, and then Jesus says, as it was in the days of Noah's soul will be at the coming of the son of man. Like, it could be that exact thing, but would just manifest differently, you're saying just based on what man can accept right now.

[Andrew Crush]

Why do you think they call that executive order? The Genesis mission? And what is the mission in the Genesis mission? It's 6G. What is. What did you just describe Genesis 6? 6G. Genesis 6. You see what I mean? The crossover there? 6G. G. 6.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, that's.

[Andrew Crush]

This is. This is. This is their calling. I think that they're bring. Yeah, I think that they're bringing that back. The days of Noah. As you're saying, the corruption of the flesh is in the book of Jasher. It talks about the mixing of animals, flesh together. That's what they're doing again already.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

There you go. Look at this. Andrew.

[Matt Hefner]

I can't.

[Top Lobster]

I can't even unclick.

[Andrew Crush]

Oh, wow. But the gold, the age of Atlantis. The age of Atlantis will be back upon us. And that is exactly what it was. The golden age.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's funny. You can't Even click that away. There's no X for it. It just sits there.

[Top Lobster]

I have to actually join.

[Andrew Crush]

No pop up locker.

[David Lee Corbo]

I have to join the golden age. Yeah. You know, on the, on the idea of this Christian nationalism, one of the elements that is happening right now that I didn't necessarily anticipate since Trump has done this whole thing about promising disclosure in whatever shape or form. X Twitter has caught fire. And it's back and forth. It's aliens are not demons or aliens are demons. That's the tagline over and over again. And I, I, yes, I wrote something it's too long to, to get into here. But you know, it's, it's something that we talk a lot about on this show and we talked about a little bit earlier, you know, in this episode. Just this idea of how kind of multifaceted it is. There's an intelligence agency aspect, there seems to be a real entity aspect. There's also, I think, room in the conversation for intelligent plasma. A multitude of things. I think there's things that are happening in a realm that's not so physical. If you want to call it the spiritual realm, a demonic realm, an astral realm, whatever language best suits. You know, I would look towards abductee experiencers. They're the ones who are trying desperately to explain the thing that they're experiencing. But it sufficient to say it's, it's messy. Right. I mean it's, it's, there's so many different things going on. Even if you're a galactic federation enjoyer, you still have an array of different entities within that. Right? Pleiadians and Reptilians and Sextillans and the tall grays and the short grays and all this shit. Where we are right now in this conversation. I mean, Christians are trying to put their foot, feet down and go, this is, this is demons, this is demonic. I think demonic is a better terminology to use here because I think these things are in opposition.

[Top Lobster]

Demons.

[David Lee Corbo]

I like demons because it's funny and it pisses other people off.

[Top Lobster]

I get to kick.

[Andrew Crush]

Well, they're definitely elementals. Yeah, I mean, they're definitely elementals. Right, we know that because what is the pagan, what do the pagans worship? Nature worship. Right. And then if you go read into theirs, they talk about these entities and they describe them in an elemental way. There's salamanders, there's the elves, there's the fairies, and each one relates to a certain element. The air, the wind or the air, the earth, you know, all these things and you know to your point, with the messiness of the UFO thing, it goes back to the Robertson panel where they said that the biggest issue is not whether there's the phenomenon of UFOs or aliens, it's people's belief in them. And so we need to get control of that. And so what they do after that, you get all the movies that we know, you know, like. Orwell. The Orwell movie.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Or the. The. What the hell was it? Invade, Invasion of the Earth, or talking about 1984. No, not 1984. The one where there's like, oh, the. The Day the World Stood.

[Andrew Crush]

No, it was before. Well, there was Independence Day, but then there was no. It's War of the Worlds. That's what I was thinking. World of worlds. You had that. You had the New Jersey radio broadcast that went out where they talked about, oh, you know, aliens are coming right here. And it was just isolated to New Jersey. And that was, you know, not long after that worlds came out. So, I mean, yeah, that's. They were doing psyops back then when it comes to this. And then everybody who had an abduction experience, when you go look at them and you look at MK Ultra as you described, it's all hypnosis. It's all based off of, like, implanted memories, essentially. And so there's a lot of crossover with that, especially when you watch the movie the Fifth Kind.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Oh, that. That was the one with Mila Jovovich.

[Andrew Crush]

You know, like the owls coming at night. Is the alien. You know, it's really the alien.

[David Lee Corbo]

She was. That was an interesting movie. That's the one where she. She played like a psychiatrist. Right. And she was in.

[Andrew Crush]

Exactly.

[David Lee Corbo]

Either Anchorage, Alaska, or a different place in Alaska. It was supposedly based off of a true story, but at least that's the disclaimer they gave in the beginning. I've yet to find out if. If that's actually the case. I know that Anchorage, Alaska has a high concentration of. Of UFOs, which, by the way, if you were a government operative, that was. I'm not saying you're not in working in conjunction with actual spiritual entities, actual things that are outside of humanity, but if you were the nuts and bolts, boots on the ground aspect of that operation, Anchorage, Alaska is a great place to operate out of. I mean, as far as, you know, coverage of. Of night and. And, you know, an absence of eyes to watch the phenomenon take place, you're snatching people up from there. You know, that's. I can see why, from a strategic standpoint, you would do That I think that a lot of this. So when it comes to the. The entity aspect and whether or not there are still these elementals, which is interesting. Right. It's like if you want to say Reptilians or somebody else wants to say Seraphim or somebody else wants to say Salamander, it's like, how far of us of a toss are these things from one? Exactly.

[Andrew Crush]

And that's my issue with Ryan Gable is he likes to act like. And I, you know, we're cool, but he likes to act like each thing is different. There's no relation. It's like, dude, how can you ignore all the pantheons? Looking at each of the pantheons, how can you think that each one is just completely different? There's almost the same of each God in each one. And they're described almost the same.

[David Lee Corbo]

That.

[Top Lobster]

That's like a symptom of autism, which I'm sympathetic to.

[Andrew Crush]

Oh yeah.

[Top Lobster]

But I think one of the most interesting emissions of this like fairy kind of lore that goes hand in hand with the Nephilim idea or the Watchers, it's. It's the movie called the Watch.

[David Lee Corbo]

The Watch, actually.

[Andrew Crush]

That's so funny.

[David Lee Corbo]

I just tweeted about that. Yeah, go off, dude.

[Top Lobster]

M. Night Shyamalan wrote a movie about the watches. These guys kind of go into this strange.

[David Lee Corbo]

There they are, the Watchers.

[Top Lobster]

Dragon.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's just so funny. That was only about an hour ago.

[Top Lobster]

They get lost in the forest. They're in this strange other realm that's not quite Earth. It seems like. It seems like they're in a. A thin area.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And these watchers come out at night and they're. They're part of this Fae fairy lore from the Nordic. The Nordic culture, I believe. But at one point they. The Celtic lore.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

They have to get inside before nightfall. And at one point one of these creatures like slaps their hand against the glass and it's clear that it has a six digit there. And I'm like, this is really interesting.

[David Lee Corbo]

Fun little thing to toss in there.

[Matt Hefner]

I love it.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, that Nephilim hand. Well, you know, it's just like that show from, you know, it's the same concept where they. Well, they get stuck in like essentially a different, you know, dimension. And then these entities come every night and they have to keep runes in their, you know, above their doors there. It's the same exact thing. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, it is. And there's even a. A hybridization aspect because when they go into the lore, at the end of the Watchers, there Is like the fae came down, they mated with humans, and there was a cross breed. You know something else? See, that's the thing that really gets me is whatever the. The name of the entities are, those patterns emerge, right? So we're talking about the phenomenon that'll change its visage depending on whatever you're likely to believe at the time. But these patterns emerge. One of them is, you know, the hybridization thing. So. So within all the pantheons, you have the demigods. Right. But it takes its form a bunch of different ways across a bunch of different peoples of antiquity. The. The other thing is that. And this is my real big sticking point, this is what makes me so grounded in my idea when I say these things are demonic. Demonic. You know, I'm using this as a terminology that means in opposition to the kingdom of God, in opposition to humanity. This is the opposite side of the playing field because fallen angelic just doesn't slap quite as hard, you know, so. So the idea that any of these encounters. And this is where you get into the cryptids thing too, if you want to talk about elementals or elves or. Or forest kid, nature spirits, you name it. The fact that any of this stops when you call in the name of Jesus, and it doesn't stop every time, and people go, what? It doesn't stop every time? That doesn't matter is if you're gathering data. That data point, it's actually is glowing.

[Top Lobster]

It's hilarious. Because to bring up Ryan Gable again, who I'd like to talk to, he was calling me an imbecile for my definition of the word demon. And he's like, well, it's actually an ancient Greek term, Damon. And then he gives me the definition and I'm like, okay, so it's the product of a God and a woman.

[David Lee Corbo]

Fascinating. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

It's kind of what I've been saying here.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, I think.

[Top Lobster]

I guess just like the guess would be, what's the nature of these things? And, you know, I don't know.

[Andrew Crush]

Well, there's a lack of context. Yeah, no, exactly. And there's a lack of context, of understanding that the nephilim giants, aren't they disembodied spirits? Aren't they the ones that are stuck because they have nowhere to go? So that relates right into that. Where it's. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if he necessarily has an understanding of that. Where it's like, where do you think they went whenever they died? You know, they became demons that people describe that come to them and do these things to them in their sleep or whatever the case may be. So, yeah, I just think that it's funny how people can be super smart and then just have blinders on with certain things and just completely miss it.

[Top Lobster]

It's almost this idea. I think it's autism, man. I really do. Like, and I think that's what we dealt with. Timothy Albarino as well. Like, and probably some government influence, but this over enthusiastic mode of defining things into their own neat little boxes.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And people want to get there so bad and organization, they want to organize so bad to the point where like we. We are watching videos of some Jewish people. Matt. Saying, like, well, you know what?

[Matt Hefner]

Maybe do with that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Maybe you pay attention.

[Top Lobster]

Maybe we could eat some babies. You know what?

[Andrew Crush]

Right, right, right. Sam Harris.

[David Lee Corbo]

Abundance of babies. Why can't we eat the babies?

[Top Lobster]

It's the same logic that. That logic of this overanalyzation of fairly simple things that are being told to you leads you to that road.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Leads you down to that very road.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah. Why do adjacent people have such an interest in creating designer babies? What the is that about? You know what I mean? It's like, what is the interest in the. The DNA, the genetic. It's. You know, actually it's funny because I had this note written down for later and Wowski or Wiski or whatever, she created an. Yeah. She created Ancestry.com. she was also in the Epstein files, invited to places. Her dad worked for CERN as a scientist and her sister. Her sister created YouTube and was married to a CEO of Google. So we're talking full Illuminati confirmed family, right? Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

Collecting the DNA.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Andrew Crush]

Yes.

[Matt Hefner]

DNA to that place.

[David Lee Corbo]

I sent my DNA, dude. I did.

[Andrew Crush]

It's crazy.

[David Lee Corbo]

Whoa.

[Matt Hefner]

Whenever I first heard of that, I was like, yo, who in the world would send that?

[Andrew Crush]

You know why?

[David Lee Corbo]

I was named after an uncle that got put up for adoption. And I was like, you know, when I was younger, I had this dream that was. It's my mom. Tell me. Never forget where my name came from. I spent a long time. I spent a long time trying to find this guy. And then when Ancestry came out, I was like, it, man. I guess we're gonna, you know. So there right now, my clone is getting bf'd in a basement somewhere, probably.

[Andrew Crush]

I can tell you where. I can tell you where. Salt Lake City.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm gonna go rescue him. Yeah.

[Andrew Crush]

The Mormons actually have the largest DNA database. They also own the other ancestry companies, which are 23andMe and some. There's another one Right, Yes. And all these people, it's insane. They're all either Israeli Catholic or Mormon, which to me, you're all the same thing, just rebranded under different arms. Okay. To me, it's just three faces of Babylon. That's what we're looking at. And so these people also create AI companies right after they get this huge database of DNA. And what are they doing with it? They're clearly looking through the DNA with the AI, creating whatever the they're trying to look for. And then I don't know where that goes after that. The customization, the coding, the whatever. But why is it that these particular people have an interest in DNA and AI and technology and merging it all together? And by the way, just for people that don't know, Abraham Jonas made Joseph Smith, who was the person who created Mormonism. He made him an on site man. Abraham Jonas is very. Yeah, it's like, you know, Freemasonry.

[David Lee Corbo]

A master on site master. Wait, so he would like.

[Andrew Crush]

Dude met him and was like all the.

[Top Lobster]

You, you. Yes, just as you said it. That's why.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's why.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, he made him a master mason on site. Who's Abraham Jonas, though? Nobody hears about this guy. This guy was the leader of the northern district of Freemasonry at the same time that Albert pike was alive. The leader of the southern district of Freemasonry. Right. We all hear about Albert pike all the time. Abraham Jonas, who was best friends with Abraham Lincoln. Why don't we hear about him who was friends with and made the guy who created Mormonism and on site Freemason, and then he fought for the Confederate side when he's Abraham Lincoln's best friend. There's some going on there and nobody, you know, so there's this clear relation with Freemasons. And this guy was also Abraham Jonas, the first Jewish permanent resident of Quincy, Illinois. So there's a lot of this correlation. So when I see all this, I see the same thing, especially when you know about the Frank is, you know, went to Catholicism. So that's why there's a cool story.

[Matt Hefner]

There's a cool story about Joseph Smith. Just for anybody who's not familiar, like the old Methodist circuit riders were gangsters, dude. Like they'd get a horse and they'd be responsible for a territory. This is like John Wesley. George Whitfield started the Methodist movement and stuff. One of the dudes was Peter Cartwright. And I'm pretty sure he beat up Joseph Smith. Yeah, but he, him and Joseph Smith had beef and he was like, yo, this dude is just a straight snake oil salesman. Like, so from the jump, like, men of God saw that guy and they were like, no, dude, something's not right

[David Lee Corbo]

with this man of God. Through hands. I like that.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, yeah, they do. In history, I feel like they definitely threw a lot of hands. It's been hijacked as well. In the Christian establishment, where they just say turn the cheek is the only thing that matters out of what Jesus said. Don't worry about the braiding of the whip, the kicking of the tables, all these things that would have been considered crazy, right, to do. If you just look at Jesus and the idea of, like, don't do anything, you know, that is physical or anything like that.

[Matt Hefner]

These dudes are rough.

[Top Lobster]

Preaching to the choir.

[Matt Hefner]

It's just been the feminization of the church, man. But one thing that's kind of intriguing to me, like, is that, I don't

[Top Lobster]

know, dude, I do some. I do some stuff. And you go, hey, man, that's like. That's like vengeance, bro.

[Matt Hefner]

No, no, you're just kind of feminine about it is all I was saying.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's got to reframe it.

[Andrew Crush]

No, no, there isn't.

[Matt Hefner]

From a biblical lens is like, like, there's a ton of stuff in the spirit realm, dude, if we're allowed to say that, like, just what we know, we know there's seraphim, we know there's chair spirit realm, we know there's angels, we know there's like, living creatures. We know there's like all these entities shown in Revelation, shown in Ezekiel's vision. Horses and chariots of fire. Like, there's like, there's all this stuff. And if there's like, you know, hell was created for Satan and his angels. And Jesus also talks about Satan and that he has a kingdom. And then in Ephesians 6, it's talking about principalities and powers and rulers in high places. And like, we read in Daniel where Gabriel tries to come through, but he gets held up by the Prince of Persia. Like, I just think there's a ton of stuff in the spirit realm, like in. On the good side and the bad side, and it. It just makes place for all of these different entities that are. That can show up in and out of different time periods and in different. Like you're saying just based on whatever the technology is at that time, but there's just a bunch of unexplainable stuff.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, it would make sense that, you know, if. If Satan really does have his own. You said kingdom, right?

[Matt Hefner]

He does, yeah. Jesus said that.

[David Lee Corbo]

So then you would spend all this time diversifying, at the very least the way that you looked. Because if you, if your objective is to deceive man and tempt him into sin and you know, pull him down into the abyss with you, if it's as simple as like, I know what the thing looks like, I'm not going to fall for that. Like, that's a fundamental flaw in your game that you would have to work endlessly to try to fix. Right? You would come up with an, with a vast array of different entities. And I think the litmus test is how does it react to the name of Christ? You know what I mean? Like, that's why I'm saying like you hear all these stories if it's, if it's cryptids, which people don't really include that into the conversation as much as like the aliens and demons thing, but people will explain. Explained like, oh, I had a cryptid encounter. Cryptids are a little bit fringe enough that they're still ridiculed despite we live in this era where it's like they're going to do disclosure and all this. It's like if somebody comes out and they said, I saw a nine foot man dog that was jacked to the gills, you kind of just dismiss that. But oftentimes when you hear these stories, they'll go, and when I called on Jesus Christ, this thing literally stopped its attack and left. And it's like, okay, that's interesting. I don't know what to make of that, but I, I think I can start to grasp its nature, you know. So you do have this litmus test, you know how to test the spirits, the spirit, maybe even if it's physical? I, I suppose in that case, yeah.

[Andrew Crush]

I think that, you know, there's got to be some kind of barrier or something that we hold in ourselves that if we call upon some powers like Jesus Christ or our belief in, you know, that higher him or whatever, I think that, that there's something to kind of calling out because you're sight. I think that it's been said before that we're stronger than these, whatever this is. But there's ways to weaken yourself to where you could be open to them. Hypnosis, psychotronic drugs, these things can open your mind to that realm, not in a good way to where you can be actually messed with subconsciously. And then eventually full consciously, I would imagine full possession. Right. And so I think that that's a big part of it where you do have this power, but it's a matter of the right belief systems and. And not obviously doing certain things that could open you up to that.

[Top Lobster]

Do you think. Do you think that 6G is acting

[David Lee Corbo]

like a. Oh, that's interesting.

[Top Lobster]

In between these two things, because it's like the more I look at it, the more I see that 6G is kind of like it's intertwining itself with this idea of data and also DNA. Like it'll probably be used to live action data, track us as some sort of new currency in our biometrics and yada yada. Yes, but there's also like some weird satanic ties to. Obviously, you know, any kind of form of Internet is. Is most likely killing people, the waves, at least.

[David Lee Corbo]

But how about when they have computer chips that look like sigils and shit?

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's like, what am I going to do when I put a sigil inside my body?

[Top Lobster]

Like, all signs point to that especially. I mean, one of the latest, most fun ones, which, I don't know, it's neither here nor there, but like that whole 6, 7 thing with the black dude.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

I think Donut has been running around saying, like, six. If we're six right there and then G is the seventh letter of the Alphabet. And it just. It's like an initiation ritual that's bringing in this 6G stuff.

[Andrew Crush]

Going through the lower to get to the higher. Right. So it's the idea of sacrificing so that way you could be successful. Right. People do that all the time.

[David Lee Corbo]

Almost like the. By the way, like, ascending the Sephiroth.

[Andrew Crush]

Yes, yes. You know, you got to go to the pits to attain enlightenment. Right. You got to get to the. It's aligning yourself with the shadow self. Right. In the Jungian philosophy, I think all these are just rebrandings of the same idea of what you just mentioned with the 6, 7. But, you know, to your point, with the kingdom thing and the devil, I mean, didn't he offer Jesus all the kingdoms of the world? So isn't his kingdom. Isn't his kingdom this earth? Yeah. Right.

[Matt Hefner]

Because whenever Jesus God of this world,

[David Lee Corbo]

there's a little bit of a latency. Sorry, guys.

[Andrew Crush]

No, you're good. I. My apologies. So, well, my point is, if he's the king of this world, right? And then we, you know, know that he was offered the king, kingdom of everything. And somebody, I think it was the Roman pontiff or whatever, asked Jesus, are you saying you're king? And you know, do I need to worry about you? And he said, no, I'm king, but not of this world. Right, yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

And so my kingdom is not of this world, otherwise my citizens would fight.

[Andrew Crush]

Exactly. And so there's a direct, obviously divide of. And you could see the layout of whose kingdom's, whose and you know, earthly matters are obviously things that are going to lead you more into the wrong place.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, yeah, that's all intriguing.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I, I think that, you know, back to the topic of this, the sort of Christian nationalist phenomenon, there was a time where I was, I was looking at people flooding to Christianity skeptically. Not that I don't think that, you know, you have to start completely earnestly in your faith. You can start with curiosity and it can lead to a genuine, a genuine faith in God. But I was looking at this Christian nationalist movement earlier in its inception as more of a response to the left, which I don't even think that's necessarily bad. But you know, it does beg a question. It's like if you're galvanizing the Christianity, the religion, the structure of Christianity, let's say like the Church for example, or as Matt likes to say, like the 501C3 system as a response, a pushback against the cultural phenomenon of like leftism and Marxism and, and the political climate. You know, you're anti, you know, liberalism, you're anti the, the Biden administration, all these things. You're tired of the way that things have gone for so long and now you're adhering to the church because this group of people that identify with Christianity are more in alignment with who your values and your morals. Which once again is not a bad thing. I was still skeptical because it's like, are you pursuing God? Are you pursuing a relationship with Jesus Christ? Or are you doing this because you hate debauchery? And a lot of people go like, well that's kind of the same thing. Like, I don't, I don't know, I don't know if that's the same thing. You know, I think pursuing the truth maybe is a little bit closer to pursuing the heart of God than just hating some purple haired transvestite. You know what I mean? And there's, there's definitely room for that. But now, now it's changed. The landscape has got this new dynamic with this whole disclosure thing. And I see it as almost like the rubber meeting the pavement. If we're really going to be introduced to some, some new framework for reality that changes that smashes a lot of people's previous paradigms. Now I'm wondering if there are people that are galvanizing towards Christianity because they are just. They're afraid of what's coming and this thing is familiar to them. You know, I don't disagree at all when you say aliens or demons. I think you're safe if you do that. But I. I'm still like wondering about where this movement is going because a lot of. A lot of what's pushing people towards Christianity right now is fear and is hatred instead of a love for the truth.

[Andrew Crush]

And yeah, you know, that lands people don't be either. You know, it says I have full WI fi and everything. So hopefully I could say all this without cutting out again because it's weird. I've got. It looks like everything's good. So.

[David Lee Corbo]

But sometimes it's just funny. It's a stream yard thing.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, it's funny you brought all this up because this is exactly kind of where I wanted to go with it. As far as the reactionary movements. Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Andrew Crush]

I think the weaponization of the reactionary movements is what we've been looking at. But if you go back a little bit to the kind of source of it, I don't want to say the only source, but the most recent iteration of what we're looking at is what I would look at and say Operation Cyclone. Or are you familiar with Operation Cyclone? It's a major CIA program that was done by that armed and financed the mujahideen against the Soviet Union during the Soviet Afghan War. So we're talking like the 90s, right. 80s. So this is like when bin Laden got created. Right. This is when the radical Islamicist tribes kind of got, you know, funded by the CIA to kind of fight the Soviet Union. And then this is where we get bin Laden to later be used for 911. Right. Which again, is this reactionary movement that were used later. So we'll get to that. But in 1979, at the same exact time, we had something called the Religious Roundtable being formed at the same time. And this religious roundtable was an evangelical movement the conservative strategist kind of formed, and it was a new Christian right, kind of evangelical, fundamentalist, whatever. A lot of Catholic leaders and everything turned into a political force, and it mobilized voters against liberal policies and supported Reagan and focused on issues like school prayer. Sounds a lot familiar with, like Trump. Right. Now we're going to get prayer back in schools. May 17 Christian Nation. the same time, what are we doing in the Middle East? It's the same that we're kind of seeing going on now. It's going to Be a lot to unpack here. So during that time, right around then and after we had Iran Contra, the color revolution in Iran, all these things going on, right. In this era of time, I believe, to kind of build up to where we are today. This Christian Muslim crusade that they want, Israel wants that. That's really what I see it as. That's how you destroy the Abrahamic religion and usher in this new Luciferian philosophy. And what you have to do, though, is create a staunch evangelical Zionist arm and, you know, a right wing anti Muslim arm of just the political against Muslims. Right. Not even religious.

[David Lee Corbo]

Why do you have. Why do you have to create the staunch Zionist arm?

[Andrew Crush]

Well, because evangelical arm Israel needs us on their side. Right. Because if we realize that the Muslims, I wouldn't say, have more in common with the Christians than Israel, but they do to an extent. As far as if you just take the Quran on its face and not get too deep into the radical Islam or what, you know, what the Catholics did to hijack Muslims, you know, the pagan. But if you just look at what it is on its face, it's very close to how Christians view the world as far as not lying, not using, no usury, stealing, killing, all those things. Right. And so, well, Israel and the Talmud, I mean, they don't have those things. Right. I mean, Tel Aviv is the biggest place for lgbtq. It's the biggest place where AI in Silicon Valley gets a lot of their tech. All this stuff is funneling from Israel. Now, during this time with the war, what do we have going on with the Afghanistan war? The poppy fields were being guarded by the military. Remember that?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. At the same time that we had an opioid epidemic here in the States

[Andrew Crush]

and they're sending up in is table pharmaceuticals. Oh, my bad. I cut out again.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, that's all right. But I just want to make a quick point about Israel.

[Andrew Crush]

No, please, go ahead.

[Top Lobster]

Compatibility that. That is clear with America in this nation. Because people. People don't get it. Their president Netanyahu, he. He supports like the Law of Amalek, where we're talking about, like, if I'm gonna punish you for something you did wrong, then that punishment goes down to your family.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like, I'll.

[Top Lobster]

I can kill your family for the sins of their father. That is inherently not Christian. As a matter of fact, it's inherently not. Not to the standards of the American West. So I don't see how that's compatible at all with what we're doing. But, like, the, you know, as a Christian nation, most of Us are fooled to thinking that these people are exactly like us, but they're not. It's just a little bit of studying will reveal that.

[Andrew Crush]

Yes. Yeah. And whenever you create. And what they did, they created a huge divide with Muslims in the Middle east and Christian Americans. And it was all done through the evangelical Christian establishment, what you call the 501C3. Obviously, this clear movement away from Christ and, you know, true teachings of all that into more of this Old Testament. Israel is the chosen and kind of the Schofield version of Christianity. And you give that like 30 to 50 years like we have, and then now look at where we are, where you have a large amount of people that really believe that Abraham is like the equivalent of the nation of Israel. I mean, that's crazy. You know, whenever God said that to him, he wasn't talking about a nation, like a literal one land for one people. But anyways, the point is that they use these reactionary movements. You have.

[Top Lobster]

You want to bring it. I'm just saying that's Genesis 12. Yeah. He wasn't talking to. Why isn't talking is. He was talking to Abraham.

[Matt Hefner]

No, no, I was just telling you guys the other day that there's the prophecy of Balaam where he is addressing the nation of Israel and he says to the something to the extent of that you'll be blessed. Those who bless you will be blessed. Those who curse you will be cursed. Balaam has another specific process.

[Top Lobster]

The guy that sold them out too.

[David Lee Corbo]

That dude.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Okay.

[Matt Hefner]

No, but if you look at that prophecy, it's an incredible prophecy. It's like, beautiful. Not just that part, because I know you don't like that part, but like, the rest of the prophecy is like an incredible.

[Top Lobster]

It's just interesting that it's never referenced. What' reference is the Genesis 12:1 where we're talking about.

[Matt Hefner]

There's a lot of people that talk Bible stuff that don't know the Bible, bro. I don't know. That's what I'm saying is like, the more you get into, like this conversation, the more I'm like dabbling in it. It's like, wow, there's a ton of people that talk like they know what's going on in the Bible, but they don't, you know. So it's like, I mean, in all the religions, it's not just like Christianity and the Allah religion have the things in common of, like, being kind to others. And so that's an all, like, that's in. There's overlap in Hindu Buddhism, everything with

[David Lee Corbo]

that well, he's saying not in the Talmud. The Talmud is a.

[Andrew Crush]

Well, right.

[Top Lobster]

Talmud is explicitly exclusionary.

[Matt Hefner]

I don't know much about the Talmud. I'm just saying that in Christianity it's very clear. Israel, we've been grafted onto that tree. We don't have a separate tree. I know that's super offensive, but that's just what the scripture says.

[David Lee Corbo]

The Talmud's fascinating.

[Andrew Crush]

Well, what's interesting about. What's interesting about what you just said. The, the. The fact that it's all the niceness within every religion is the similarity. I think that similarity is going to be weaponized to try to unite it under one idea of all things are God. There is no good or bad because you can't have light without dark. You can't have right in this idea of dualism. And no difference between the two, which is the new age philosophy that gets merged in with it and weaponized. You know, just like we saw the left movement. What is the left? They use the left the most to weaponize against is politeness. Right. With the mask for Covid. You don't want to kill your grandma. Things like that. With the right. If you look at the cabolotry. Right. If you look at the cabolotry for like, is. For. How sorry, am I cutting out again?

[David Lee Corbo]

You were cutting out. Yeah. You said if you look at the Kabbalah tree for Israel. Oh, we lost him entirely. Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

No, I think he was just getting out to.

[Top Lobster]

Maybe it's us redo it. Let's refresh as well.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, there he goes. He just popped in.

[Top Lobster]

Andrew, we're going to refresh too.

[David Lee Corbo]

We'll be right back. Brb. Yeah, we'll edit this part out.

[Top Lobster]

Really? Like, you know, you pay a lot

[David Lee Corbo]

of money for good Internet.

[Top Lobster]

Sorry.

[Andrew Crush]

Okay. Okay.

[Top Lobster]

We're just having tech. Tech issues, I guess.

[Andrew Crush]

So if you look at the Kabbalah tree. This is important. There's two sides, two pillars, just like in Freemasonry. There's mercy and severity. And I think that they're doing a kind of manifested in physical reality through the political movement. The same thing when you look at the left versus the right, where they weaponize mercy on the left, polite society, acceptance and inclusion of everybody to a level of what they call suicidal empathy. Right. And then on the right, you have this kind of. This building up of the empirical Christian movement, which is more of just kind of a. It's the severity side. It's more of the side that's the authoritarian. Right. And I think that they weaponize the Two against each other. So you let the left run for a while, and they. They get real crazy. And it's this dichotomy aspect. But the reactionary movements, you keep moving them back and forth. And then the underlying cause of all this, a lot of it, is the drug movement that you have on the left as well, which is getting funneled by Israel through Table Pharmaceuticals. As I was starting to mention earlier, we were guarding those poppy field plants with the military. A lot of that went down to Table Pharmaceuticals to Israel. It then came here to the Sackler family for them to distribute everything. And that's why we have a direct correlation with the opioid epidemic in 2001 in the Iraq. Sorry, I gotta get back. I gotta go research again. Maybe I'm tripping.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, no, I mean, that is a. That's a huge thing. I mean, you know, I'll. I'll say, as far as the. The war in the Middle east goes, I had this little, you know, saying that I was tossing around, and I would. It would go like, if you're a normie on the surface, some browns crashed into our tower, and we had to go, you know, seek vengeance. And if you. You're a little bit above that, you go, oh, no, this is about oil. You know, securing oil. And then if you're a little bit above that, you go, this is about securing permanent military bases in the Middle East. And then above that, you go, oh, this is actually about the resurrection chamber of Gilgamesh and the buried Nephilim. Now, between those two things, there are also the opium fields. But the real answer is, like, it's all of those things. I mean, they go into a place, and it's like, how the hell do we make, you know, 17 birds with one stone kind of a deal?

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Email correspondence. The email correspondence between Steve Bannon and Jeffrey Epstein is a great testament to that. They're like, it's so great. All right, this is our goal. We want to rehabilitate you. Why don't we do all these things in between? He's like, yeah, start a media company. Starts the war room. We're going to. We're going to rehabilitate your character. Right? Start some philanthropy stuff. Why not do some wars? Who can we over do some worse? Yeah, it would be easy. And it's like, so all of these things, but, like, their main goal was one thing, but why not? It's the same thing with COVID Yeah. Just take everything you can while it's. While it's available.

[Matt Hefner]

Yep.

[Andrew Crush]

People suck you know, you know, with that, Epstein was a part of Iran Contra, the running of the guns. Right. In the drugs part of everything. Yeah. And Iran Contra gets right into what we're talking about. Operation Cyclone led into Iran Contra, which led into the drugs and the guns all being smuggled back and forth from here and then created the of crack and created the 1994 crime bill. Like all these things are step by step by step, we're leading along. And then you have the 911 scenario and then we go into war with them. And I think that after that, they didn't have enough of Christian movement behind them to really have the stomach for what they really want to bring into play. So then we had another 10 to 15 years of the leftist movement creating this Marxist, what you mentioned all this. So we could have this reaction now. And as this reaction starts, we have the murder of Charlie Kirk, right? The Christian martyr, which, by the way, by the way, a book came out before he died, the day before he died, which is a fake book. It came out nine, nine, 2024, which is nine. That's triple nines, 666. Inverted, right. It's kind of funny. So the author on there, it's called the Shooting of Charlie Kirk. The author on there is Anastasia J. Casey. And I look for this person to see if it's a real person and if it's a real book. And it's not. Well, one thing I learned from James Shelby Downard, whenever you ring read like killing, Killing of the King with jfk. Names matter. Names matter a lot. And so Anastasia J. Casey, I went ahead and looked at the meaning of that name. Anastasia was the first Christian martyr in, I think, orthodox Christianity. And then you also have J, which is one of the pillars for freemasonry. J. J means he establishes. So the Christian martyr establishes. And what's Casey mean? It's a brave, watchful order. So this Christian Monitor establishes this brave new watchful order. When you put that together and you look at Cash Patel, who says, a man who swore on the Bhagavad Gita, which is Hindu, and he tells a Christian man who's dead now, I'll see you in Valhalla, you see this culmination, the occult theocracy, the merging of religions and this idea of this international kind of society of people that don't believe in any nations, one religion or any of that, Right? And that's who I think is rearing their head now. And that's why you see people like Paul Valelli, who is A co writer for Mind wars with Michael Aquino, who works at TP usa. And so we see this correlation with these multi generational people, just like Michael Aquino, who was related to the Franklin scandal and Iran Contra. Iran Contra was connected to Epstein. The Franklin scandal connected to Epstein as well, through Roy Cohn, because Roy Cohn's connected to Trump, who's connected to Epstein. So you have this group, this, obviously this, what I call the Jesper, as we talked about last time, this global elite satanic pedophile ring. And they're all working together. And this is the Illuminati. This is like, who everybody calls out all the time. But we're seeing a little bit of these characters kind of finally show up. And I think it's only because we're in the end stages.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, we are. We're seeing, like, if you would have said this two years ago, three years ago, these would be words and names that you're throwing around with loose connections. But today it's been painted so dark that it's almost hard to ignore.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, like, we.

[Top Lobster]

I know. I. I really try to take myself out of, like, the crazy town of, like, conspiracy theory because I remember what it was like a couple years ago. And yeah, it's names, it's. But now, like, I. I don't see how the normal person could look at this, this type of connection, which is schizophrenic on his face. But I'm like, no, it's actually written out.

[David Lee Corbo]

I think that we know.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, actually.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, dude, it's so deep. No, sorry, we had a latent.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, it's the lag thing. I'm sorry. I'm gonna go. All right. I just think that what's happened is it's not readily in front of the faces of the normies. It's just that it's become even lower hanging fruit. So if you're paying attention, you have a proclivity to pay attention. Now it's very obvious. All the fruit is descended from the tree. It's no longer obscured by all the leaves and the branches. And we can see it, but the normies still aren't looking up. And I think that's. That's really what we're dealing with. But go on, Andrew.

[Andrew Crush]

That's a great analogy. You know, that might be schizophrenic on his face. Just one name, one book. That's fake. Right. But what about the guy who asked Charlie Kirk the last question before he died?

[David Lee Corbo]

That's great.

[Andrew Crush]

His name. His name was Hunter Kozak. Hunter. The Hunter Kozak. Free Man. That's what that name means. If you look at Charlie Kirk's name, Charlie Kirk means free man's church. You can't make that up. So the last guy to ask him a question, the hunter of the free man asked the free man's church, you know what I'm saying? And he changed the subject. Two shootings from what it was, you know, very weird to me. I mean, you can't ignore. What do I think of that? This is a ritual, just like jfk. This was a Masonic freemasonic ritual done to manifest what is hidden. That's what they do. They manifest what is hidden. And you know, what is hidden? These Watchers are hidden. They want to manifest them through this vessel that we call AI. Right. That's kind of how I look at that. They can't really be embodied in a body, right. But they can probably somehow come through AI if there's some quantum mechanics behind it.

[David Lee Corbo]

And that's how they're merging speaking. They've. They've always interacted with technology. You know, if it's a frequency based technology, there seems to be some ability for the spiritual realm to interact with it. I've gotten to the point where now I think that there are specific frequencies you can tune into where these things exist. And that's where you get all these like implants and everything, Right? So brain implants maybe is a little bit difficult to do, but in the abduction scenarios, you get like little pieces of metal lodged in people's bodies. I think that's to conduct frequency so that these things could communicate with you a little bit easier. I think they've always had an ability to integrate with technology. And that's kind of the reason that these people, you know, you talk about people that are making AI they're channeling these. These spiritual beings are commissioning mankind to advance themselves technologically so that they can not only integrate with the physical realm, but eventually integrate via transhumanism with human beings. You know, possession we. We talked about in the previous episode. We did today. Sam Tripoli calls it hardwired mysticism. How do you hardwire mysticism like possession? Well, if you can get technology into the human body and have the entity integrate with that technology, well, good luck casting it out.

[Andrew Crush]

Yes. And, you know, if I may get a little schizo again, you know, whenever you look into free, because I love looking into freemasonry as well and what they believe because it gives you a lot of answers on what's kind of going on bigger Picture nature. So, as we said earlier, they worship, like, Ella, or they use elements. Elements are kind of their object of manipulating for magic and whatever. Well, fire is kind of like the number one element, right? Promethean fire. He comes down and gives us knowledge. Right? So fire, if you put it through an alchemical process, like lead to gold, what does fire become? Electricity. Why does Zeus holds a lightning bolt? For a reason. So what are we doing? We're accessing, like, literally the tech. Like, I think that that is why the technology runs off electricity and frequencies, because that's. Well, frequencies are the basis in the fabric of the universe. We know that through science, which is now proven mysticism, which is the point of science, to prove mysticism, to usher in this Luciferian philosophy in. The materialists believe it. And so I really think that's where this all merges together. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I mean, a great little insight TO that is Dr. Marzinski's story. Marzinski being the. Are you familiar with them? Maybe. I don't have to do the whole spiel. Okay, so I'm gonna do the whole spiel. Clinical psychologist, works in the field with schizophrenic patients for, like, 35 years. And obviously, in a medical setting, you have to go buy the book. Despite that, he just. He realizes that these things that are auditory and visual hallucinations are actually adhering to patterns. 23 different patterns, which is abnormal for hallucinations, which, you know, you would expect to be random, maybe adhering to the occasional pattern, not 23 of them reliably. And so he begins to suspect that these voices and these hallucinations are actually external to the patient. And long story short, he comes out the other end thinking that demons are about the best way that he's seen to describe what he's been dealing with in this medical setting. But he has this story about a time that he's communicating with a patient in a prison setting, so he no longer has to worry about the constraints of the medical apparatus being, like, don't feed into their delusions, because that's, you know, highly risky. And. And you don't want to be culpable when it comes to getting sued and like that for feeding into, you know, a crazy person's delusion. So 23 is a funny number.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's allowed to. Yeah, 23. He's allowed to operate more freely. And he starts telling them to basically treat them as if they're external to themselves instead of as if they're a result of a broken, you know, brain. And A imbalance of brain chemicals, etc. And these people start to have a lot of success. One day he's. He's checking in with the guy, brings him into the office, and he starts asking him to see, you know, what's new, what's going on. And by this time, things had gotten a little bit strange already. People had started saying things like, the voices don't like when you address them. The voices don't like that you're interfering. They even said things like. They said, you have no right to interfere with their way of life. And I think it's because they're parasitic in nature and they need a host. And they don't like when, you know, that they're external to the host. But he's having this discussion with this guy, and this guy basically goes into, like, a catatonic state. And, you know, Marzinski starts trying to get his attention. What's going on? What's going on? All of a sudden, Marzinski becomes aware that there's a crackling sound, an electric crackling sound, and that it's, like, traveling. He can't see it, but he can track it by hearing it across the ceiling, down the wall behind him. And then even ends up inside of his waste bin that's next to his desk. And he leans over and looks inside the waste bin, and he can't see anything, but he could hear. Now even the sound has changed, that this thing is crackling inside of a little container. And it stops. And he. He doesn't know what the hell's going on. He looks at the guy. The guy snaps out of his catatonic state, and he goes, I got to go. And he gets up and he goes to leave him. Marcinski's like, yeah, dude, you got to go. Like, whatever. Later on, like a month or so down the line, he reconnects with this guy, says, hey, you know, can I talk to you? And he checks in with him how you do? And the guy goes like, hey, man, I've been treating these things as if they're external to myself. Great success. Things have gotten a lot better. And he goes, that's good to hear. By the way. Remember the last time you were in my office? Like, what the hell was that sound? And the guy's like, sound? Marczinski's like, yeah, there's like an electric crackling sound. And the dude's like, you heard that? That was the voices. He starts talking to him, and he's like, well, what were they saying? And he goes, they were telling me to go Find a shiv and to stick it in your guts. And Marzinski thought they had a report. So he's kind of like, ah, well, yeah, why didn't you do that? You know, like kind of light heartedly. And the dude's like, well, I left, I, I. But I couldn't find one.

[Matt Hefner]

Oh, geez.

[Andrew Crush]

Oh my God.

[David Lee Corbo]

But like, it was perceiving as a voice. Marzinski was perceiving as an electrical static crackling sound.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah, It's a phenomenon of, yeah, Poltergeist activity. Flickering with lights and things like that. But that's like, that's almost a trope at this point.

[Andrew Crush]

This is static on the tv.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yep.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, yeah, that's that sound. Wow, that is crazy. And you know, the 23 and me is just kind of a funny name to give you something if you are trying to with like what you're talking about. I mean, that's a very odd thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

Marzinski also said that they reacted like worms in a frying pan to the 23rd Psalm. So Marzinski, being a guy that's not religious, is finding success in scripture. Which people in the medical industry would say, oh, well, you know, they're hallucinations. They're going to react to whatever is socially programmed in the individual's head. And Arzinski tested that and he goes, no, I don't think it's just reacting to social cues like Christianity here in the West. This is a pattern. And demons, as, as the Bible puts it, are about the best thing that I've seen to describe the phenomenon that I'm engaging with. And that's what, so we talked earlier about, like, let's say like we use Ryan Gable as an example. A lot of these things have a tremendous amount of overlap. Right. The thing I always say on this show is almost everybody's right. They're all dealing with the same thing. But the most correct is the biblical narrative that nails the nature of these things. It's the nature of a thing. It doesn't matter. If you encounter a bear in one culture and they call it this and another culture and they call it that, and everybody's got a different take on it. It matters whose take on the nature of this thing is correct. Because if you're gonna, you know, sort of interact with this thing at all, if it's part of the environment that you exist in, you have to understand how to navigate it. And in order to do that, you have to understand its nature. And I think that's what the Bible really nails.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah. No, it does. And it's funny because, you know, I've read through it, and I mean, it explains things in a way where in a modern sense, it's more than uncanny. It's like, how is this possible? You know, something this old where, you know, if you read in, like, I want to say Daniel, but it's not. It's Ezekiel or Daniel, but just where he talks about. Just like, he has him going, like, scribe, while God takes him around all these different, like, nations that are up and, you know, bad, and he tells him to, like, put, you know, feces inside of bread and give it to them, and they won't even notice and things like that. And, you know, and Ezekiel looks at me. Or maybe it wasn't Ezekiel. I'm trying to remember.

[Matt Hefner]

I think it is Ezekiel. He's supposed to cook.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah. And he's like, yeah, yeah, dude. That. In my opinion, this might get a little crazy, but you've heard the theory about, like, you know, McDonald's and that having, like, people in there. Like, you know, the rabbi that talks about 100, 000 kids going missing. Where do you think we put them? In your sausages and hamburgers? Right. They believe that they're the chosen people. If you look at Ezekiel, what did they. What do they. What do they do to the people that are evil? Because Israel, even though we understand from understanding the Bible that, like, the people that run that place at this moment have this weird inverted idea that they are actually the people who, you know, God really, you know, which is probably true to an extent, but they've, like, ran away from him so bad, and now they're treating, like, the whole world as if they're all the evil ones. You see what I mean? And so there might be something to that where maybe they're re doing that to us as it was done in there. I think that that might be the case.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, that's so, you know, with it, like, let's say if you get the nature of these things wrong. Well, look at how wrong. Let's say witchcraft is where they go like, no, they're not demons. They're nature spirits. They're ancient. And, you know, if you interact with them, they can, you know, bring you good things or they can curse your enemies or all these different things. And then, of course, given enough time, the witches always start to crone. They go into the crone stage and they. They fall apart. And then all of a sudden, it takes more sacrifice and more sacrifice. Next thing you know, you're killing babies and in order to appease these things that you come into a. A covenant with. But I think that they also. They'll have these moments like, let's. Sage, for example. Sage is something that I've begun to look at as like a burnt offering to appease a spirit. So when you sage your house because of some perceived haunting and the activity dies down for a while, what almost always happens is that it gets worse. It comes back and it gets worse. It goes away for a while, but then it comes back and it's worse than it was before. And I think it's because what you've done is you've given this thing a foothold, and you've basically given it a gift. You've given it a burnt offering, and you've appeased it for a time. And so it's like, well, how do you. How do you come about that? Well, it's like through trial and error. You find out because somebody said, you know, sage. And then all of a sudden you do this, and it works. And then you think, because you had an interaction with it and there was a direct response to that interaction, you burn state sage. And the direct response was this thing. The activity stopped for a time. And maybe it does come back and it gets worse. But you don't even make that correlation. You just go, silly Christians, I understand this thing. I understand this thing. This is the people are right. This is a nature spirit. This is a thing that, you know, whatever, however it got in here, somebody's, you know, cursing me or something like that. But I can make it go away through sage. And then you find out, you know, through this process where, you know, in. In Christianity, Christ. And you can break any covenants and agreements that you've come into with these things. If it's generational iniquity or otherwise, the debt has already been paid to the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. So you have authority over it that wipes it clean. But in, let's say, Wiccan, you go, okay, that last one was sage. But now. Now I need to do something a little bit different. Now we need to sacrifice a small animal, let's say like a chicken or something like that, in order to get rid of this next thing. And each time this interaction has a measurable response, and each time you have a measurable response, you become more and more grounded in the ideas that you understand this thing's nature. So everybody's dealing with the same shit. It's just about its nature. And then you have these other things like gorilla, skizza. Six, six, seven, Dude. Or, you know, I was talking on a previous episode today, Azalea Banks, who have figured out that they can make offerings to these things. So they're a. A Santos. That's what he calls himself. I think he's a Santos, which is just. Yeah, a Santaria practitioner. And he's figured out that there are these spirits. You can engage with them. He thinks he understands the nature of them. He understands what they are, their nature spirits, their ancestor spirits, whatever the hell the deal is. So he's openly saying, like, yeah, for my career, I sacrifice chickens, I sacrifice goats. And what's Azalea Banks doing making tick tocks openly about her kill closet? She's got a closet that's dedicated to sacrificing chickens. And. And the walls and the floor are covered in feathers, blood, and chicken. Jeez. Yeah, that's what we do. This is what we do. I haven't cleaned this thing in three months, she says, and now I'm cleaning it. And she's, like, scraping the floor up. So it's like everybody. Well, maybe. I don't know, you know, how much it was a lot. Maybe we could bring that video up. Actually, if you type in Azalea Banks chickens, you'll probably find it. But my point is, Andrew, it's like everybody is kind of right. You know what I mean? Like, everybody's right. There's a thing, and you can interact with it, and. And if you do this, it can give you, you know, minor, meaningless material gain here in the physical realm. Right. But Christianity has nailed its nature. And that's the thing. It's like, people don't want to believe that, especially within this game, right? Esoteric occult, conspiracy theory, this kind of shit. These people, and I was one of them, really. Don't, like, Christians really think they're gay and simplistic and they're caught in a control mechanism? And I was there, dude. I was there for a long time.

[Top Lobster]

That wasn't nice.

[Andrew Crush]

They've weaponized.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, that's because they weaponized three system. That's accurate to a lot of that.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, they weaponized. Yeah, they weaponized it.

[Matt Hefner]

I think this whole thing is changing, though, man. Like, you're talking about, like, the sage and the nog chop or whatever you're, like, burning and this and that. But now we're talking about how this is gonna, like, move into, like, this AI space.

[Andrew Crush]

So I.

[Matt Hefner]

There's always this passage that I've thought about. If I could just read it real quick. It's in Revelation 9:1 through 6. And I just am curious, like, when I first read this 20 years ago, I was like, yo, this doesn't make any sense. And now it kind of does. But I'm just curious, like, what you would think about this, Andrew. It says, in the fifth, angel sounded and I saw a star fall from heaven under the earth. And to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit and there arose a smoke out of the pit as the smoke of a great furnace. And the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth. And upon them was given power as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded then that they should not hurt the grass of the earth neither any green thing, neither any tree, but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. And to them it was given that they should not kill them but that they should be tormented five months. And their torment was as the torment of a scorpion when he strikes a man. And then. This is the thing I really want to get at. And in those days shall men seek death and shall not find it and shall desire to die and death shall flee from them. Like what? So you think, like, I don't know, what's your take on that? Like, the way that realm could wrap up in AI exactly what I was just.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, that. That's exactly what I was describing earlier, whenever I mentioned that they believe I, I. I described it as. They believe that we live in a prison planet. So they're building one anyway, essentially, is what it is. But it's what you're saying, it's that we will be plugged in, giving the mark, given the beat, whatever, to where you can't die because you're digitally, you know, you've now put your conscience into a sentient world simulation, essentially. Now, whether we get that far and that actually happens, I'm not sure because I don't think you necessarily need to do all of that to kind of trap, entrap somebody's soul in the material realm. You don't have to give somebody the Matrix, you know what I mean, to do that. Right. It's just really the condition of corrupting your flesh voluntarily. Which is why I think they're having us build this technology and not them. Right. Because then it's us corrupting ourselves, which is the ultimate fu to God. Right. You know, and what you were talking about earlier, the nature of things, there's a couple of points to that. So, like, you're talking about the. How it keeps coming back worse after the sage, right? Anybody that knows anything about addictions, they know that every time you kick an addiction and then get back into it, it comes back worse and worse.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah, that's fast.

[Andrew Crush]

Every time.

[David Lee Corbo]

Because people will often say, and I'm to that extent now, where I'm like, drugs are a gateway for these things to have access to you, these spiritual entities to have access to you. I just. This was. This is what I was talking about before. I think this is. This is fascinating. So Azalea Banks, this shout out to Red Panda Koala, he just posts all the best stuff. Azalea Banks via Instagram, cleaning the closet. She's been performing brujaria chicken sacrifice for three years. This video was actually from 2016. And it's making the rounds right now.

[Andrew Crush]

That's about to come off my floor right now, guys. Oh, my God. Three years worth of bruj. You know, I gotta scrape all this up.

[David Lee Corbo]

What smells worse?

[Andrew Crush]

My goggles.

[Matt Hefner]

That's blood meal. That's good fertilizer in those feathers and stuff.

[David Lee Corbo]

Good God. But that's it, though. I mean, who. Who's Azalea Banks? I. I should probably give that a Google because it's like for the longest time, these. And by. I mean the, the naysayers who would go, oh, the elites. The, the. These. Okay. She's American rapper, songwriter, and she's been one for. For quite a long time, actually, it seems. So when you would say the elites are practicing sacrifice and they're. They're worshiping all these entities, people would, would. And then it's like, since 2016, I mean, obviously way earlier than that. There's no shortage of these people doing it out in the open to your face. And I was so frustrated, man, when I was a young man, people would say that's. It's sensational. It's there for shock value. This is like, okay, you keep the symbols in your music video. Well, that's for shock value. You know, you do a bunch of things where, like, you're worshiping them in. In shows and movies and. Well, that's for shock value. When you get to the extent where you're killing animals in your. In your brujaria closet. Well, that's for shock value. At what point do they gotta. Your kids right before you go, oh, maybe this isn't shock value.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, you know, young thug was sacrificing a chicken. I believe around 2016 on social media. That was a thing that went around as well. So this isn't necessarily new or anything. You know, I mean they talk about it. It's just people like you said, they don't, they don't want to believe it. But also you have the weaponizations of things like the satanic panic.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Andrew Crush]

Whenever you read the book Program to kill by David McGowan, it explains the Epstein cabal, It explains the satanic, you know, pedophile cabal, it explains the serial killer scenario, what's going on with that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Andrew Crush]

And why people like, and why people like Henry Lucas got out of prison multiple times, was pardoned by Bush, who gave everybody the death sentence except him. Why this guy's a serial killer. Now that guy apparently was the one that gave the cyanide over at. What was that compound where they all killed themselves? Jamestown. Jonestown. Yeah, Jonestown. He apparently went there. Now if you know anything about that, that was not like a cult. That was the MK Ultra Manchurian assassin kind of training camp. And so they went there and killed everybody. Probably because the, it, it was botched or something or maybe they weren't going to use them, whatever. And so they use a guy who's a proven, trained great killer. A lot of these serial killers seem to be tied in with intelligence and satanic pedophile groups which all seem to be tied in with high up elites. So there is a direct line with all this going on.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Andrew Crush]

And you know what they do is they use universal truths which are, you know, provable. Right. Because they call their God the architect of the universe. Right. And I believe that that's because Lucifer can apply the logic and mathematics and tell you the geometry and how everything works in this world that God created. He didn't create anything, but he can, he could tell you about it. He can give you the, the secret truths. And I think that, that, that's the scary part is that you can get provable results in this world by using these satanic coven style rituals. You can get provable results, but you're, you're with some that is, it's. Yeah, it's demonic, it's evil. And, and it's funny because how do you tell somebody who's getting results? Yeah, that's not good. That's the most crazy thing about this, like this philosophy that they, that they

[Matt Hefner]

run isn't that ultimately what could potentially happen is like these entities come, aliens, whatever, from outer space, they show up, they give us the cure for cancer, the cure for aids. They give us this little thing that's a size of a quarter. They Say, here, put this in your kitchen. You'll never have to pay electric bill ever again. They start solving, like all these things. And then there's one group on the planet, it's like, yeah, no, no, no, we're not down with them. But like everybody else on the planet, from every religious background or non religious background or whatever, everybody's like, yeah, this is the best thing ever. And then there's this one group, it's like, we're. No, we're not. And then boom. That's where persecution could come from. Like, wouldn't. Would that be like a logical view of how this thing kind of starts to take place?

[Andrew Crush]

I mean, dude, as you said that, I started thinking about how AI, the customizable AI vaccines that are going to cure cancer because they can DNA and customize itself to fix whatever problems you have. These are the type of things being sold to us with this technology. So, yeah, I think that's exactly right. And then who brought us that technology? These aliens that are being disclosed. Who are these aliens? These entities? So it's full circle back into what we're saying. And it's really crazy to see that it might be this close to culminating.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's. I, I love it. I love it because I've gone through these really fantastic seasons of like, being in a space where nobody believed and then being in a space where I saw people like start looking around for a second. And then it got squashed. You know, like Covid came along, everything kind of got squashed. And then people started getting uppity about a different thing. Lockdowns, freedoms, politics. And I was like, close, kind of close. And then that rolled back over now and we're back into the swing of things with, with, you know, conspiracies that are a little bit more supernatural, esoteric in nature. And now, now we're like, the door is kicked wide open and it almost feels like we're all just standing there in the doorway, like, do we go through? Is it time to go through? And I just feel blessed to be alive at this time, number one, because it's like, okay, God didn't let me spurge out on these, on these topics for no reason. All those years ago, you know, I went through this, like, period where it was like, you know, it's trying, it's. It's trying to be. Oh, yeah, you know, you have success online, but among your peers and family and friends and like, it. That's not. I wouldn't call that a really great playing field. You know, it's It's a radical place to navigate. And. And now it's transcended. It's beyond that. And now it does seem to be bleeding. Not just online now, it's bleeding into real people's lives. And. And listen, at the end of the day, I rejoice because it's like, this is all part of God's plan. And. And maybe we really are part of this generation that gets to be there when, you know, this big moment in God's plan takes place. Like, that's. That's unbelievable, you know, so it's. It's. It's you. I think you need that or else it's a bunch of black pills too. And I'm not saying that I do that so I don't get black pilled. I came to this place organically. I was in conspiracy for the longest time, and now this is what I've. What I've realized. But, man, it is. Yeah, you're right. It's a wild thought, dude. It's. It's a little surreal. Sometimes it doesn't. We're so used to nothing happening, right?

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

That sometimes it feels like this is just gonna go away. But I will say that in all the times we've been here up to this, you know, this. This kind of threshold, is it gonna pop off? Are we finally gonna have these things revealed? Are the normies gonna catch up? This is the most real it's ever felt ever by a long shot. More so than, you know, 2016, when the pizzagate was happening. More so than when Epstein hit its height and we got the memes of Epstein didn't kill himself. Covid was a little bit crazy because Kovid felt like some was really going on. The world was getting shut down. It was like a ghost town. I remember running the avenue and being the only one out there buying tonic water for quinine and all this other. That felt really crazy. But we stayed there for a long time, and then everything kind of regulated again. But this feels like that moment again.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, it definitely does. You know, and it seems like it's been a constant bombardment of psyop after psyop since COVID I mean, I can't think of a few months of time of just peace and normality. I think that there's been something crazy whether it's a. Another shooting, but, like, not just any shooting, like one at Brown University with a guy who's like, MIT related to, you know, this nuclear physicist that's going on. And then you have, you know, the Blackstone shooting where CEO of Blackstone gets killed. It's created by Blackrock. And there's just weird, not normal. And then you start seeing that there's survivors from multiple mass shootings that have been in other mass shootings. And that's like, not even a crazy. It's like, dude, it's like, what are the odds? And then what are the odds that multiple people have been in multiple mass shootings and survived? Just to tell you the guns are bad. So it's like this is a constant bombardment on our cognitive. It's cognitive warfare. It's neuro warfare. And I think we're in a. It's. That's why the mind wars thing matters with the Michael Aquino, Paul Villally thing, the connection there, I think that that's the stage of reality we're in. It is. And that's why I don't think the normies will catch up, because they're only being shown this because of, again, controlled reactions. And so can we get to them before they get the reaction that, you know, this system wants? I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

No. I mean, we're not going to get to all of them, that's for sure. Right? I mean, Satan deceives the nations. There's going to be a lot of people. But we reach whoever we can. And, and I think that's what we're supposed to be doing. I don't think we're supposed to necessarily, like, mobilize and take to the streets and get our picket signs and say, stop drinking these kids. I think we're supposed to spread the good news. It's like, hey, what's the good news? This shit is all demonic, despite how you try to label it, you know, whatever name you want to toss on it. And there's a remedy for that. There's a debt that's already been paid. We already have authority over these things. And if you look at where we are in the story, this might actually mean that we're going to experience the return of Christ in our lifetime. But even if we don't rejoice, because there's salvation, right? We have salvation through Jesus Christ. So that's, you know, within the Bible, it's the Great Commission. We're supposed to make disciples of men. You know, you just use this, this word that you have and you, you try to reach as. As many people as you as you can. I mean, that's. That's it, right?

[Andrew Crush]

Can I exactly tend to the garden? You can keep, yes.

[Matt Hefner]

Can I ask. I think we got into it like a little bit, but I don't feel like we really unpacked it. Like maybe you have more to say about it, Andrew, about how the Christian nationalism kind of ties all into this.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, definitely. So I've been kind of watching this kind of form through people like Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, you know, with this Catholic arm of this Christian nationalist movement, which is very important because I think that that's the main people pushing it. And now you, you know, keeping on that. What is Candace Owens talking about? Her third eye, astral projection. It's this new age kind of merging with. I thought she was Catholic. I thought she was like on to Jesus and Christ is king and God. And now she's talking about her and Charlie Kirk and how they would astral project and you know, and so it's this merging of the two. And I think that's what I mean by the weaponization. So what initiated all this was somebody said that America is a Christian nation. And I don't know how you guys feel about that, but I inherently disagree only on the sense of we did not use the Bible to write law, but we did use the moral code of the spiritual teachings of the Bible to kind of lay our principles of how we would conduct in society. With our Bill of Rights. Right. We are going to. We have the rights endowed by a creator that is inherently given to every person. And that's the right to freedom, liberty, justice, all that right. It doesn't mean. Because here's the thing. If you say Christianity is America is Christian, well, which version are we talking about? Baptist? Are we talking about Protestant? Are we talking about Catholic? And as soon as you choose one, you've opened it up to where all the other ones now can be told that they can't practice. So as soon as you say we're Christian inherently, and that's it, you take out the right of free speech and the right of freedom of religion, which then institutes persecution almost automatically guaranteed. And they're going to use the Christians and their moral codes to sell them the idea that these moral codes are better to live by because look at these leftists. And then they're going to use that to usher in their, their enslavement. And they're going to see the Bibles burning probably before the Qurans. Once they decide to go for that, I guarantee it.

[David Lee Corbo]

It.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, it's an intriguing thing about this America's a Christian nation thing because it's like, okay, let's explore that a little bit then. Why do we have this giant obelisk at the capital and why do we have like, what's the. Is it a pentagram, the way dc.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, it's also. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Matt Hefner]

Hold on a second. But I think to your point was like, they knew enough to know that if you lay out this Christian concept of 10 commandments and freedom, in that sense, if you will, that's how you would get like the most productive society. Like, I would. I always wonder that. I'm like, dude, if people could be like tyrants and dictators, they could only get so much production out of their people. They didn't have like free market capitalism, if you will, but like, for us to be sold this idea of like free market capitalism and you could go grind and get as much as you want was going to create like the most productivity. And that's why the Constitution was set up the way it was. It was almost like the deepest level of dictatorship in a certain way. To get the most productivity out of people. Yeah, but like. Yeah. How do you call this a Christian nation?

[David Lee Corbo]

Doesn't stop people. They do. Right.

[Matt Hefner]

All the stuff that like that, the, that the capitol and everywhere was built.

[David Lee Corbo]

This nation was founded on Christian values. It's like, I think the nation was founded on like freemasonic values, like Mystery school values. And I think that a real genuine Christian movement has taken. Because God uses all things has taken root, you know, sporadically. It's more, what would you say, impactful at sometimes in history than others. And you know, it happens organically here and there. But as far as the, the organization of the country, the plan for the country, I mean, what do we have? Apollyon, as. As, or, or Mithras or whoever you want to, whichever name for this fallen entity you want to toss on for this. Yeah. For the Statue of Liberty, you know, it's, it's all, all the iconography, all the buildings, all the, all the symbolism. Yeah, it's. It's all Mystery school.

[Andrew Crush]

And to that point, you know, with the pentagram thing, in, in dc, whenever you read about why they did that, the star Venus, right. That's the brightest star, the morning star. The stars are right, exactly. And so it's the mother goddess worship that gets into that. But the star of Venus, it makes a triangle. It makes a pentagram as it goes through the sky, the procession of the star throughout the year. Right. So if you were to track it, which they do because they're astrologists, Right. They track it and it makes a pentagram. And they even say when you cut an apple in half horizontally, you'll see that same Pattern. That's why you have this weird thing with the apple maybe having something to do with Eve, I don't know. Because it's just right, this Luciferian doctrine. And so I think that that's very intriguing because they took what you would see inside of an apple, the trajectory of Venus, and they implanted it on the layout of our, of our capital. Yeah, that's. That is what that is, manifesting what is hidden at its most level. Because they do believe if you architecturally build certain things, you can generate the energy you want to then manifest what it is you, you want. Because it's all about the mind, matter. Right. And to your point earlier about the Jesus being our Savior, isn't it so funny that all you have to say to the New Agers is it doesn't matter if it's real. If you believe that Jesus Christ is your Savior and you're above everything, then it's true, because that's what they run on. That's their whole philosophy. So why do you reject Jesus? So why reject him? You know what I'm saying? If, if you, if mind over matter is real and if you truly believe, which is Jesus, he says all you have to do is believe in me. So that's the only thing you got to do. And then, of course, try to act accordance with God's, you know, principles. But if that's all you got to do, why would you throw that out whenever that could be your saving? Great. You know what I'm saying?

[David Lee Corbo]

That's what I was saying before. It's like in the conspiracy thing, the, the truth of the matter is, if you're into these principles and you're into this research and everything, there's a great deal of people in the space that think Christians are retarded and they suck and they think that Christianity is retarded and it's cringey, but they've been given

[Matt Hefner]

plenty of fuel for that fire for a long time.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, I, I understand that, but that's the thing. It's like these people, and I, myself included, I was there for, for a while, we just thought. And they still think, or whoever, in their infinite wisdom, they got it figured out. And these people that are looking out for psyops and, and, and the real truth of the matter don't like to entertain the idea that they've been lied to in this kind of a sneaky way where Western culture has, has presented Christianity in such a way as to make you look at it and basically scoff.

[Andrew Crush]

Well, you asked me earlier Go ahead. Sorry. You asked me earlier, why does there have to be a Zionist aspect to it? And that's exactly what you're talking about. Well, the Zionist aspect inherently is this, this idea that there's, you know, we know this from the, you know, the Rothschilds that you know, funded the Zionist movement who believe that they're part of the thirteenth tribe of David and they're meant to rule. Right. This is this whole Schofield doctrine. Now that's why it plays a key role in discrediting Christianity by hijacking the evangelical movement and having them teach this Zionist rhetoric rather than the true truth and doctrine of Jesus Christ. They don't teach that. So what people point to that they hate in Christianity is the Baptist that'll sit there and go tongues and pass out or say that you know, you're going to go to hell if you don't do this or that that is being weaponized by Zionists to get us to run away from Christianity and run away from the truth into this new polite society. You know, everything's God just love man, it's all about your thoughts. If you think positive then you'll lit, you know, all that kind of thing. Which sounds great and nice and everything but they've really just weaponized the truth to run us away from our saving grace.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Crush]

That's why the Zionist I.

[Matt Hefner]

But ultimately that's the church's fault if the church is fake. Sorry to cut you.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, it's okay.

[Andrew Crush]

You.

[Matt Hefner]

If the church is faking, if the church isn't preaching the truth like from the scripture and dudes aren't called of God to come out and you know, bring the hammer and bring the fire that's on the church, dude. Like it's like at some point God is going to raise up real ones, dude. It's just we have these fake ass systems like these schools, cemetery schools and stuff that just raise up people in these denominations that are just taking in tons of tax free money and it's just this worldly system in Christian clothes. Like that's got to come to a stop ultimately. Like that, like that's the only, that's gonna be the only answer. Well, I think, I think real men of God are going to start preaching and then like all the BS is gonna have to go away.

[Top Lobster]

But what Andrew is pointing at, like you want that to stop, you kind of got to pull that out at the root. And you have to understand what is poisoning this system. And in a big way I do agree with that. That is it's a huge poisoning of the system. It's. It's part of why I was reluctant to even go back. Like, you go to a church and there's like, I don't know, we're praying for Israel, there's a flag there. And I'm just kind of like, hey, man, like, you guys are missing it. You guys aren't understanding what's happening here. And the message is being tainted in a way. You can't, you just can't have both of those things. They're incompatible.

[David Lee Corbo]

And it's.

[Matt Hefner]

No, yeah, well, no, that Sketchesaurus Rex to say they're incompatible. Like the, like the entire New Testament is just placed on top of the Old Testament. We've been grafted into that tree. Whatever it's become today, what's incompatible, whatever

[Top Lobster]

it's become today of Israel, the government of Israel is incompatible with the, the church of Jesus Christ. And that, that, that is also. This is the, this is the lines that are being blurred for a lot of people. Because now then we're talking about Jews, then we're talking about ancient Israelites, and we're talking about Hebrews. It's like, no, no, I'm just looking at the flag here. I'm looking at the flag of whatever this is.

[Andrew Crush]

This. My understanding of the, My understanding of the Old and New Testament is that the Old Testament is that there was a chosen group of people who were given laws by God and then they couldn't adhere to them. They kept adding laws. It just became this whole thing. Right. Which is kind of how you get the Talmud, this whole. Because they love to make loopholes within laws. You know, the whole deal. Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

Still doing the same.

[Andrew Crush]

Jesus. Jesus comes and talks about your laws that you can't follow and all these things, and how there's people who aren't even a part of your group who have been circumcised in the heart because it's like an analogy for their godly people without even being in your tribe and your group. And so he said he's going to write the law on your heart. That means that all people are God's people now, not just these people. And so it is incompatible. They're still pushing that Old, that Old

[Matt Hefner]

Testament that was even in the Old Testament. Yeah. Like what you're referencing is actually in Ezekiel, that's Old Testament, where he says, hey, man, you guys had this outward law. You had hearts of stone, but I'm going to turn your hearts into flesh. Like, I'm going to put the spirit. I'm Going to put life inside you.

[Andrew Crush]

So how is there an ethno supreme. There can't be ethno supremacy after that.

[Matt Hefner]

No, no, there wasn't like the story of Israel in the Bible. A lot, a lot of times people can't understand. This is like, say you had kids, say you had five kids or whatever, 10 kids, and you had a big bag of candy. You could go evenly distribute to each of those kids the even amount of the candy. That's not how God chose to do it. God gave the bag of candy to one nation, to one group, to one kid, and said, it's your job to distribute it. Where Israel went off was Israel just bogarted the bag and tried to have a monopoly on God. That was never the intention. Same thing with the church today. We're in the Sermon on the Mount now.

[Andrew Crush]

Now.

[Matt Hefner]

And it's the same thing. Like, you are the salt of the earth, you are the light of the world. The whole, the whole God's whole dealing with the, with the nations, with the masses of people, with the crowds is to do it through people. Like that's how God chooses to do it. Whether we like that or not. He does it through people. And that was supposed to be the idea of Israel. And yeah, the entire Old Testament is the story of that failure.

[Andrew Crush]

Right, exactly. And so looking at only that and not telling, like, you know, focusing on the Jesus aspect of what he was describing and saying to those people and then instead putting them on a pedestal and saying, we have to do whatever they want. And by the way, this leads into the war. Like, this is why you need the Zionist aspect for the Christian movement, because they want to go to war. You can't have this big wars if you don't also have people behind it in this religious sense. Because again, the Zionists or the Israel has to be the chosen people for us to sign off on a war that they want us to sign off on, on. So I think that's why that all goes hand in hand together.

[Top Lobster]

And it leaves us in this very frustrating place where I have to accurately on one hand go, yeah, this is all done on behalf of Israel. And then I have to also argue the point of like, well, are these God's chosen peoples? Like, you know what, Maybe I don't even really want to talk about them anymore because just they annoy me to no end. But yeah, all these wars.

[Matt Hefner]

I'm writing the date and time down right now that you just said that quote.

[Andrew Crush]

He said, he said that last time I was on, he said that Last time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just opening my eyes up to the Zionist aspect of all these things and really understanding like the Hitler aspect and what really went on with that, what he really did, posing himself as the boogeyman to run the Jews to Israel to create this state, all these things. And I came on here and to be honest, since then, I've gotten deep into the Bible since then, like talked to Paul stops Nephilims or clowns. He does great, you know, biblical studies of some wild. With the Nephilims. Definitely like the Joker and shit's probably like representation of. Right. Trickster God. Right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Same thing interesting there. He does a great job.

[Andrew Crush]

Even when you look at like Batman, like the Batman head that comes from the Mayans, like, they literally had these real.

[David Lee Corbo]

I, I've seen that before. I'm like, there's no way that's real.

[Andrew Crush]

It looks like. It couldn't be because it looks metal. Right. But that just looks. They made cool shit.

[David Lee Corbo]

I mean, it's very cool, but it's just so. I don't know how to put it. Like, it's. It's dealing in the realm of unbelievable things. I find that one to be particularly egregious, you know, But.

[Andrew Crush]

Well, I will say Gary Wayne is a pretty like, you know, he research he doesn't put out. And he's the one who brought that up as a reference point of that being in my Mayan culture. For real. So. Yeah, they based Batman off of that. That's insane. You know, makes sense.

[Matt Hefner]

There's nothing new.

[Top Lobster]

I think the, the discrepancy here is there is an AI generated version of that Batman mask.

[David Lee Corbo]

But. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

In ancient Mesopotamia, I think even a current, a current artifact that's left over, it does resemble it, but it's not the one that. It's not the image that everybody shares, which is just the Batman mask. But it's super close to it when, when you actually study the artifacts.

[David Lee Corbo]

But I.

[Top Lobster]

You were, you were getting on to something about like, from the last time you were here. I don't want to get you off track.

[Andrew Crush]

No, no. Last time it got me more into the Bible, more into Jesus, more into understanding. Like, I grew up, you know, my grandmother's. She's from Ireland and she was a nun for a while and then she moved here and, you know, she quit the nunhood and came here from Ireland and then met my grandpa, etc. And so I grew up with like, you know, pretty Catholic, you know, woman who was kind of old school, kind of understanding of. Of The Bible. And my dad, who was kind of like more on the Christian side of things, grew up in Catholic boy home. But so I kind of had a little bit of that background. My mom's side, you know, we'd celebrate Hanukkah, but they weren't the most religious of Jewish. So it's kind of that, you know,

[Matt Hefner]

whatever mixed bag in the house.

[Andrew Crush]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So, and then after that it led into, I want to understand Eastern philosophy. I want to understand this. So I've read about all the religions and philosophies and Gnosticism and Plato and just philosophers in general just to really understand, like. So I feel like I've came to this unique place of understanding. It's so funny how it comes full circle back in the Bible where you get the most understanding.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, that's, that's crazy. If you give the Bible enough time, like, you know, I found that these things, like I'll find myself saying so often, dude, something that like, I think is a profound truth that I learned through all these years of sleuthing. And it's like, actually, yeah, the Bible says that Bible says, well, yeah, it's

[Matt Hefner]

like what we were talking about the sage earlier and I think maybe Andrew was going to end up pulling this passage up to talk about it. But that like, you burn it, the thing happens, but then it comes back worse. You burn it, the thing gets better, but then it comes back worse. Like this is what Jesus talked about. And I always knew this when I was in like 12 step meetings because I was court ordered for N A meetings and stuff from like age 16 through 18. And they always talked about that the addiction was like a progressive disease. And I was like, I don't know if this is a disease, dude. That just seems a little weird to me. Like, I just never had a bag of coke like kick me in the face and jump up my nose. It almost felt like it was a thing that I was choosing to do. But then I read in the scripture where it said that like, if a demon goes out of you, goes out of a man, it looks for places, it finds only dry places, it comes back and brings seven more evil spirits with it, just like itself. And then that the state of that man is worse than the first. And I was like, yo, that's what's going on here is like, you stop drugs and then when you pick back up, they used to say, you know, you pick back up worse than where you left off before. Like, it's because it's a progressive disease. I Was like, no, it's totally explainable according to scripture.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, that's the same thing, right? It's. It's. Everybody's dealing with the same phenomenons, but they all think they understand it, right? Yeah, yeah. It's called when you kick a habit and it comes back, it comes back worse. You know, like all this. It's like. Yeah, actually, the Bible talks about that. It comes back sevenfold.

[Andrew Crush]

And, you know, you could simplify it to. As simple as, it's not a physical demon, but it is your carnal nature that you war with within yourself. Maybe there's some truth to what freemasons talk about when they talk about getting rid of the carnal nature. Right?

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah.

[Andrew Crush]

What is carnal nature? It would be all the seven deadly sins. Right. It would be glutton, greed, all those things. Those are natural kind of tendencies that we war with. Like, you may have an issue with sex, I might have an issue with greed, you know, and we war with those things. And every time that we kind of lose that war by coming, you know, by getting relapsing, we could say it gets worse and worse because we're warring with our own internal carnal nature. Right. With our. Our higher self, which is like our connection with Jesus gets farther every time that you get deeper into those actions, those passions, those lower earthly passions. And so there is some truths with these other spiritual teachings that can kind of help you understand even that a little bit better, where every time I do drugs, it gets worse, probably because I'm getting deeper into that. That. That physical self.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

That concept's biblical too, though, that we are at war with the world, the flesh, and the devil. So it's not just like the demonic realm. It's also what we're battling in the world system and then certainly in ourselves. The carnality. I mean, that's like the Corinthian letter from Paul. He's dealing with them as carnal Christians and saying, like, I can't even teach you guys anything on a deeper level because you're just carnal. You're just babes right now.

[Andrew Crush]

Exactly. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Andrew, I wanna. I wanna bring this in for a landing, but I do have one. One last question to ask. And this is something that we tend to ask when we remember. But given that your show is. I mean, when did you start?

[Andrew Crush]

April last year. So we're coming.

[David Lee Corbo]

April last year. So you're about to hit. You're about to hit a year. That's awesome. You've already been on Tinfoil Hat and. And You've been doing great work, and so I want to ask you sort of through that lens. And then of course, the work that you're doing, are you having fun?

[Andrew Crush]

I'm having a lot of fun. You know, in my personal life, I'm. I'm going through some hurdles that I feel like are being put in front of me to test my will with this even, like with monetizing, you know, not that I kind of pursued this to monetize, but it would be a hell of a lot better if I could not worry about working like crazy overtime so I could spend more time on it, that kind of thing, where I've kind of ran into this weird, like every time I do a show, I have a synchronistic lineup of, of, you know, information. And then, you know, an article will happen to come out right before I'm about to do it. It kind of proves this kind of theory that I'm kind of working on or whatever, because I try to not just take open source information and, and journal it. You know, I'm not a journalist. I like to take things and connect it and make a big picture. And let's theorize. Like, that's what a conspiracy theorist does nowadays. Conspiracy theorists just report like a journalist. And that's not what I think. I think it's detective work. That's the point of it. Do detective work. There's no coincidences. That's what conspiracy theorists love to say. So do detectives. And so I try to take that approach. And I've noticed that I've got that aspect of it where everything lines up perfect every time. Then I've got this weird other aspect where it's like, shit's just trying to keep me from being motivated to do it. You know what I'm saying? So there's definitely a struggle, but I love it. It's great. It's my passion.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know, within that detective work, there are these moments of, like, revelation and epiphany. And I think that that's the difference between, like a journalist, like a, like a reporter, somebody who's just saying, like, this is what this person said today. This is what happened over, over the last week, you know, And a person that does connect these dots, because when you have that moment, you know, it's like I imagine. You ever see like, like in a show where, like, somebody has a eureka moment and they zoom in and they go into the theoretical, you know, quantum physics of the brain, where these two electrical synapses bridge to one another and all these things light Up. It feels like that in that moment. And, And I agree with you. I agree with you. It is like detective work. It is like unraveling mysteries. And, And I also agree there are no coincidences.

[Top Lobster]

But it's also, it's also like this, like, when I. When me and David started the show, this show, like, was pretty successful right away, and we're moving. Right. There's a lot of things going on and where it's like, it's snowballing. And I remember telling him, like, hey, I've seen this cycle before. There's going to be a lot of ups, and the highs are going to be high, and then there's going to be a lot of lows, and those lows are going to be super low. But pay no attention to either.

[David Lee Corbo]

Not, not.

[Top Lobster]

Not to, like, downplay.

[Andrew Crush]

That's great. No, no, I get it. That's great.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

But, like, you acknowledge them. Have a cigar, have a steak. You did a thing good, but that thing is done. And it's, It's, It's. It's in the past. Now you're doing the next thing, and there might be a fall off, but it doesn't matter because you're going to end up, like, you're doing this thing the whole time, but you're moving forward. It's not about the highs and the lows. It's about the journey that you're going through. So, like, just don't get discouraged. I. I think you're great at this, and I think you're doing. You're doing your thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

So thank you.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, that's. That's my advice. And that's it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, I guess that's it. Well, I'm glad you're having fun, dude.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, dude, I love it. It's good. I wouldn't be doing it. I'd be doing it on my own, you know, going crazy anyway, so I might as well go crazy with people.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, it's like I might as well lose my mind in front of a camera. Exactly. Well, look, man, I'm glad that we got it done. I know we had some scheduling issues there, but I'm a little bit happy we finally ironed it out. Thank you for your time, brother, and keep up the good work.

[Top Lobster]

Follow you and find you.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah. Spotify, Apple, Patreon, go hit them all up. We do our bet. We got the cheapest Patreon out there. One tier, three bucks. Come on, it's free. So, you know, go hit that up. You know, we're about to monetize a little bit on Spotify and YouTube. So that's coming. So that'll be cool. So we might be actually kind of on a, you know, liftoff platform at this current moment, which is funny because, as you said, it's very Taoist of you. You know, don't react to either. That's perfect. You know, just kind of path of least resistance, because as soon as you get to that, the pendulum always swings back. So. Yeah, that's very right, man.

[Top Lobster]

Don't believe your own. And also don't believe it when they say. When they say you suck. Yeah, somewhere in between.

[Andrew Crush]

Yeah, exactly. Hell, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, all platforms. You can find us where. You know, we do lives on YouTube pretty often. Pretty active on there. We interact with the comment section, everything else. So, you know, you come have a conversation with us whatever you want. But, yeah, Deep dives all day.

[Top Lobster]

Hell yeah. All right, man. Hang out after the show. I'm gonna tell you something. Oh, yeah, guys, don't forget to obey some incomplete. It's a weekend.

[David Lee Corbo]

Have a good weekend.

[Top Lobster]

Have a good weekend, people. Bye.

[David Lee Corbo]

Death spot. Death spot. When the last trumpet sound.