Pastry chef, longtime collaborator with Yotam Ottolenghi, and practicing psychologist Helen Goh joins the New Books Network to discuss Baking and the Meaning of Life: How to Find Joy in 100 Recipes, a debut that brings together more than a decade of recipe development with her clinical work in psychotherapy.

In this conversation, Goh speaks with host Laura Goldberg about the central question of the book: why we mark important moments with cake. What begins as a simple observation becomes a framework for understanding baking as ritual, a way of expressing care, marking time, and creating meaning through shared experience.

Goh describes baking as part of a broader “mosaic” of meaningful acts, where small gestures contribute to a sense of purpose and connection. Drawing on existential thinkers such as Viktor Frankl and Irvin Yalom, she emphasizes that meaning is something we actively construct in everyday life.

The discussion also explores her framework of meaningful activity, including autonomy, competence, relatedness, beneficence, and creativity, and how baking uniquely brings these together. Recipes such as the Pandan and Coconut Chiffon Cake, Green Tea and Red Bean Brownies, and the Very Good Apple Pie reflect the book’s blend of cultural memory, technical precision, and emotional resonance.

Goh reflects on her path from a Malaysian Chinese upbringing without a baking tradition to an international pastry career and a parallel life in psychology. The book ultimately positions baking as something beyond necessity, an act that reveals how people create connection, ritual, and meaning in everyday life.

Interview by Laura Goldberg, longtime food blogger at Vittlesvamp.com.

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