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Product Rising
Hosted by Women In Product · EN
Meet product and technology leaders who are shaping what comes next in a world driven by AI, rapid innovation, and global complexity. Every week, we explore the ways bold women and men are navigating change, leading with impact, and redefining the future of product leadership.
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Recharged and Ready: The Value of Good Transitions & Disconnecting From Titles
Feb 1000:47:22Tap to summarizeDeb Liu joins Carmen Palmer for the first episode in our monthly series, In The Lead. Deb shares insights from her year away from titles and company affiliations - what she did, what she learned and the clarity she is carrying forward in 2026. As always, Deb has great insights and advice.In The Lead is a new monthly series on Product Rising. It will share thought provoking conversations hosted by Carmen Palmer, CEO of Women In Product, with a wide range of industry leaders. It uses a revolving set of questions to get an engaging combination of hot takes and deep insight into the current state of product, working and leading in today’s technology industry, and building effective organizations.00:45 Meet Deb Liu: Tech Executive and Author02:28 Defining Success in the New Year03:03 The Blank Name Tag Club04:58 Navigating Career Transitions09:27 Overcoming Failure: The Facebook Marketplace Story14:08 Building Perseverance Through Adversity18:43 The Evolving Role of Product Managers22:07 Understanding Customer Needs in AI Startups23:26 Understanding Customer Needs24:01 The Role of Product Managers25:14 Strategic Positioning in Companies26:09 Adapting to Technological Changes28:35 Leadership and Empathy29:33 Opportunities for Product Leaders in AI33:07 Personal Experiences and Insights36:07 Challenges in Corporate Life43:15 Future of Leadership and Technology45:59 Closing Reflections📚Resources:Perspectives Newsletter On SubstackTEDxSanDiego talk - Deb Liu✨Where to find Deb:On LinkedInPerspectives Newsletter On SubstackDeb’s WebsiteTEDx Talk💫 Where to find Carmen:On LinkedIn 🙋🏻♀️Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/
Transcribe →Drop Being Perfect and Dive In
Feb 300:50:06Tap to summarizeNik Sharma, CEO of Sharma Brands and one of Forbes’ 30 under 30 has a lot to say about visibility. In this episode he joins host, Surbhi Gupta, to discuss how the playbook he has developed for building visibility for big brands can also work for regular people. While Nik isn’t shy he also isn’t hung up on being perfect or creating the perfect content. What he is hung up on is delivering value. He is constantly thinking about how to provide value in the content he posts. Something many product leaders are familiar with! He also believes in putting in the work. Visibility doesn’t happen overnight, it takes effort and commitment but it can pay big dividends. 🎧 Episode Highlights:00:00 Introduction to Visibility02:29 Nick's Background and Expertise03:08 Defining Visibility04:51 Nick's Career Journey06:00 Building Personal Visibility11:42 Overcoming Hesitations and Myths15:58 Celebrating Wins and Company Culture17:58 Leveraging Social Media for Visibility22:40 Persistence and Authenticity in Content Creation24:26 Insights on Podcasting27:03 Professional Setup Tips for Content Creation27:49 Balancing Short-term and Long-term Visibility28:19 Building a Community and Setting Goals30:27 Impact of Small Tweaks on Visibility31:56 Lessons from the Director of Performance Marketing32:35 Visibility Strategies for Tech Professionals34:53 Overcoming Shyness and Building Confidence37:15 The Importance of Showing Up45:26 Crafting and Sharing Your Story48:00 Handling Negative Feedback and Staying Authentic49:16 Conclusion and Final Thoughts📚Resources:Ship 30 for 30 Digital Writing Course - https://www.ship30for30.comWrite of Passage - https://writeofpassage.com🌟 Where to find Surbhi On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/surbhi7/💫 Where to find Nik On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrniksharma/Website https://www.nik.coOn X @mrsharmaSharma Brands - https://sharmabrands.comNewsletter - https://sharmabrands.com/blogs/newsletter🙋♀️ Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/
Transcribe →Educating, Informing and Engaging with Marily Nika
Jan 2700:35:20Tap to summarize”Visibility is how clearly our work, our impact, our leadership, are being recognized by our teams, our peers, the wider organization and broader community. it's not about being seen, it's about ensuring that the value you add is acknowledged and understood,” Marily Nika, Ph.DIn this episode Marily joins host, Surbhi Gupta, to discuss how she has built her visibility to include work inside and outside of where she works. Marily has built a reputation as a product leader broadly by educating through courses, books, a substack newsletter and a LinkedIn profile filled with information. Her work is followed by over 124K people on LinkedIn and her courses on Maven have been taken by over 8,000 people. 🎧 Episode Highlights:00:00 Introduction and Welcome02:06 Defining Visibility03:10 Marilee's Journey to Visibility05:22 Building Technical Visibility07:05 Taking Risks and Early Success08:41 Overcoming Shyness and Anxiety09:58 Advice for Women in Tech12:01 The Importance of Networking17:09 Debunking Myths About Visibility20:17 Leveraging LinkedIn for Visibility27:49 Balancing Multiple Roles28:37 Creating and Teaching Courses31:39 Final Advice and EncouragementResources• 🌟 Where to find Surbhi On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/surbhi7/• 💫 Where to find Marily On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/marilynika/On Substack https://substack.com/@marilynika?On Maven https://maven.com/marily-nika/ai-product-management• 🙋♀️ Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/
Transcribe →Show Up, Find An Angle And Be Authentic
Jan 2100:51:13Tap to summarizeVisibility can help leaders be in touch with their audience and deliver value to them. Megh Gautam has been writing and speaking about a range of product and business challenges for years. He has represented his products and the companies that he has worked for while building an authentic brand as a product leader. On this episode, Surbhi Gupta, host of The Visibility Equation and seasoned product leader, talks to Megh about how he has gone about building professional visibility and how it has helped the companies he’s been a part of while staying authentic to who he is.🎧 Episode Highlights:00:00 Introduction and Background02:12 Biggest Career Risk and Lessons Learned03:40 Crunchbase's AI Evolution05:29 Building Professional Visibility08:40 Writing and Consistency in Professional Growth11:58 Personal Branding and Career Insights17:01 Engaging with Audiences and Public Speaking27:54 The Dynamics of Real-Life Presentations30:21 Key Takeaways for Professional Visibility31:48 Balancing Humor and Education39:20 Navigating Introversion in Professional Settings42:36 Leveraging AI for Professional Growth45:35 Recommended Reads and Podcasts48:33 Final Thoughts and ReflectionsResources• 🌟 Where to find Surbhi On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/surbhi7/• 💫 Where to find Megh On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/meghbartma/During the conversation Megh mentioned the following resources7 Rules of Power: Surprising--but True--Advice on How to Get Things Done and Advance Your Career - Professor Jeffrey PfefferCue the Sun! The Invention of Reality TV - Emily NussbaumAI And The Future of Work - Podcast with Dan TurchinSmart Venture Podcast with Grace GongThe Economist Podcast• 🙋♀️ Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/
Transcribe →Speaking with Resonance and Power
Jan 1301:05:42Tap to summarizeVisibility is a superpower for leaders—but building it authentically can feel challenging. On this episode, Surbhi Gupta, host of The Visibility Equation and seasoned product leader, sits down with Lauren Weinstein, Executive Coach and Founder of Resonate Consulting , to explore how each of us can own our narrative and communicate with expertise and a grounded flow.Lauren shares practical strategies and tactics to speak with expertise and authenticity in every situation. Together, they dive into inspiring stories and the realities of finding your authentic voice.🎧 Episode Highlights:02:53 Journey to Strategic Communication04:31 Pivotal Career Moments06:33 Achieving Flow State10:14 Overcoming High-Stakes Pressure11:43 The Power of Breath Work16:13 Connecting with Your Audience28:51 Storytelling and Effective Communication34:45 Making Communication Concrete and Vivid35:01 The Power of Stories and Examples35:28 Summarizing Effective Communication35:56 The Razorfish Example37:10 Uber Eats Pricing Algorithm37:31 The Importance of Storytelling39:00 Myth-Busting Visibility Strategies41:33 The Role of Authenticity in Networking48:54 The Impact of Positive Thinking50:28 Overcoming Limiting Beliefs01:02:54 Practical Tips for Building Visibility Resources• 🌟 Where to find Surbhi On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/surbhi7/• 💫 Where to find Lauren On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/weinsteinlauren/Her website - https://www.elevateyourhappiness.us/During the conversation Lauren mentioned the following resourcesThe Happy Secret to Better Work, TED Talk by Shawn AchorThe Charisma Myth, by Olivia Fox CabaneMade To Stick, Chip Heath & Dan HeathMan’s Search For Meaning, Viktor FranklThink Fast Talk Smart (podcast), Matt AbrahamsGive And Take, Adam GrantDon’t Believe Everything You Think, Lauren Weinstein TEDx Talk3 Truths You Need to Hear: The Best Expert Advice to Unlock Your Potential, Mel Robbins Podcast with James Doty• 🙋♀️ Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/
Transcribe →Lexy Franklin and Surbhi Gupta Stop Waiting for Lightning: BUILD Visibility While You’re Still Figuring It Out
Jan 600:55:41Tap to summarizeVisibility is a superpower for leaders—but building it authentically can feel challenging. On this episode, Surbhi Gupta, host of The Visibility Equation and seasoned product leader, sits down with Lexy Franklin, CEO & Founder of Sidebar, to explore how leaders can own their narrative, amplify their impact, and connect with their authentic selves.Lexy shares practical strategies on building visibility, overcoming public speaking anxiety, nurturing relationships, and navigating the leadership journey. Together, they dive into inspiring stories, actionable insights, and the realities behind professional growth at leadership levels🎧 Episode Highlights:02:28 Key Skills for Success and Visibility03:26 The Importance of Learning and Mentorship05:16 Embracing Failure as a Path to Success08:17 The Power of Asking for Help18:22 Owning Your Story and Wins27:00 The Necessity of Visibility30:52 Embracing Uncertainty and Positive Energy31:50 The Art of Decision Making36:56 Building Blocks of Visibility42:24 The Power of Books and Personal Growth52:42 Celebrating Success and Leadership53:55 Final Thoughts and Book RecommendationsResources• 🌟 Where to find Surbhi On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/surbhi7/• 💫 Where to find Lexy On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexyfranklin/During the conversation Lexy mentioned the following booksCrossing the Unknown Sea, David WhyteLet My People Go Surfing, Yvon Chouinard• 🙋♀️ Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/
Transcribe →Pendo SVP Nichole Mace: Growth Is a Team Sport
Oct 1400:36:06Tap to summarizeIn this episode, Pendo’s senior vice president of product and u/x Nichole Mace talks with host Shannon Peavey about the growth mindset that infiltrates her company’s culture. She illuminates the differences between core product work and product growth work and shares her tips on ways companies can cultivate a collaborative environment, where the spirit of experimentation becomes contagious. Chapters:4:05 Why growth needs to be prioritized6:19 Organizing your mind for pursuing multiple goals7:50 Cultivating team spirit9:30 Knowing when the time is right for a growth push10:50 Why experimentation can be contagious13:40 Nichole’s path into growth15:45 Skills for great growth leaders18:50 How pivots happen: the ZipCar example21:00 Growth loops are golden23:00 Nichole’s 6 Core Product Growth Principles 31:00 What’s AI’s impact?32:15 Life in balanceWhere to find Nichole:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nichole-mace-44bb65/Nichole Mace’s PLG websitehttps://www.nicholemace.com/Resources:Pendo https://www.pendo.io/Constant Contact https://www.constantcontact.com/LastPass https://www.lastpass.com/BevSpot https://bevspot.com/ZipCar https://www.zipcar.com/
Transcribe →Sandhya Ganesh Talks Product Growth at Tinder: Don’t Be Afraid to Fail
Oct 700:39:22Tap to summarizeIn this episode, product growth leader Sandhya Ganesh talks with host Shannon Peavey about the way Tinder builds product-led growth into its culture and its business strategy. She defines common acronyms for measuring success and shares details of her unique path from engineer to product manager. Sandhya offers advice on developing the right mindset to cultivate explosive success.Chapters:1:08: Sandy defines “growth product” and “product-led growth”5:22 Acronym soup10:08 Stickiness metrics11:02 The marketing-product growth partnership14:14 Sandy’s journey from engineer to growth product manager19:06 Critical skills and mindset for product growth21:54 How approaches differ in B2B vs. B2C26:00 Strengthening relationships with your teammates28:33 How Tinder tested rewards programs30:45 The importance of secondary and counter-metrics33:00 Why to hypothesize when experimenting34:15 Why failure needs to be part of the cultureWhere to find Sandhya:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandhya-ganesh/Resources:Deloitte Consulting https://www.deloitte.com/Tinder https://tinder.com/Lending Club https://www.lendingclub.com/
Transcribe →Virtual Elena Verna: Getting Real with Product Growth in WIP’s First-Ever AI Agent Interview
Sep 3000:16:59Tap to summarizeIn this episode, host Shannon Peavey welcomes the one and only Elena Verna. But wait, it’s not the illustrious, highly sought-after growth expert herself, but her AI agent, powered by SuperMe. “She” shares deep knowledge from her expansive body of work in growth from Miro to Amplitude to Loveable and shares why company stage matters when thinking through a growth strategy.Chapters:1:50: Elena defines PLG3:45 Skills for aspiring growth PMs 4:20 Choosing the right success metrics 5:58 Why company stage matters to growth strategy7:10 How companies can get started with growth8:12 Stories from SurveyMonkey, Miro and Amplitude10:15 Hitting the ground running at Lovable11:20 Refining the ICP13:00 Collaborating cross-team14:00 Personal reflectionsWhere to find Elena Verna:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elenaverna/Elena’s SuperMe AI Agent: https://www.superme.ai/elenaResources:Elena Verna’s Substack: https://www.elenaverna.com/SuperMe https://www.superme.ai/Lovable https://lovable.dev/Miro https://miro.com/SurveyMonkey https://www.surveymonkey.com/Amplitude https://amplitude.com/Sanity.io https://www.sanity.io/MongoDB https://www.mongodb.com/
Transcribe →Product-Led Growth to the Max: Adobe’s Deepti Pradeep
Sep 2300:32:52Tap to summarizeAdobe’s Head of Product-Led Growth shares the joys, challenges and opportunities that come with managing growth efforts at an iconic company. She talks about the power of leveraging a unique customer community and being ready to embrace constant evolution. She lets us in on what she sees as the 3 most valuable skills for product growth managers - and her list may surprise you.Chapters:4:05 Adobe’s proprietary onboarding layer5:40 Aligning with organizational goals7:13 Wrangling data across a vast ecosystem 9:48 Critical partnerships: leadership and data science12:10 How to apply correlation analysis13:40 Identifying user habits that signal success15:15 A broad set of funnels21:30 Deepti’s path to PLG24:15 Her number-one skill for growth product managers26:44 AI helps us get to the “so what” faster31:00 Thinking through the ways your customers want to consume AI32:40 How product management itself is evolvingWhere to find Deepti:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deeptipradeep/Resources:Adobe https://www.adobe.com/Box https://www.box.com/homeLitmus https://litmus.io/Deloitte https://www.deloitte.com/in/en.htmlAppCues https://www.appcues.com/
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