RISK! Podcast Episode Summary
Episode Title: Introducing Rulebreakers with Saraya
Release Date: April 21, 2025
Host: Kevin Allison
Guest: Kale Lowry

Introduction to Rulebreakers with Saraya

In this episode of RISK!, Kevin Allison introduces the inaugural episode of Rulebreakers with Saraya, a new podcast celebrating unfiltered rebels and risk-takers. Saraya, a former wrestling superstar, engages in no-holds-barred conversations with bold voices from various fields, delving into topics ranging from breaking societal barriers to personal life experiences.

Embracing Imperfection as Role Models

[01:11] Kale Lowry emphasizes the importance of authenticity over perfection, especially for those in the public eye. He states:

"If someone thinks that they're perfect, it drives me crazy because I said that being a role model, especially like, you're a role model to a lot of people. I feel like I'm a role model to a lot of people. But the special thing about that is you don't have to be perfect. It's like you go through a lot of shit in your life and then when you come out the other side, that's what the fucking inspiration is."
— Kale Lowry [01:11]

Kale insists that sharing one's flaws and mistakes can be more inspiring than portraying an unattainable perfection, fostering a more genuine connection with the audience.

Authentic Advice Through Personal Experience

[01:32] Kale Lowry challenges the notion that only those with spotless records can offer valuable advice. He argues:

"But that's what I talk about. People are like, don't take advice from Kale. And I'm like, but I have lived a thousand lives. Take advice from me, because I literally lived it. I'm not just talking out of my ass."
— Kale Lowry [01:32]

This perspective underscores the value of real-life experiences over theoretical knowledge, advocating for guidance rooted in personal journeys.

Candid Conversations on Sexuality and Relationships

The heart of the episode revolves around Kale Lowry's candid discussions with Cale Lowry about their personal sexual experiences and relationships.

Early Sexual Experiences and Social Pressures

[02:04] Cale Lowry shares his first sexual encounter:

"I lost my virginity on a sidewalk."
— Cale Lowry [02:16]

He recounts feeling pressured to fit in during eighth grade, leading to a brief and unremarkable encounter that he humorously reflects upon later in life.

Changing Perspectives on Intimacy

As adults, both Kale and Cale discuss how their views and experiences with sex have evolved. Cale Lowry mentions:

"From then when I lost my virginity till now, it's like, I only have 30 seconds in me."
— Cale Lowry [03:56]

This highlights a shift from the awkwardness of youth to a more pragmatic approach in adulthood, balancing romance with practical life responsibilities.

Humorous Anecdotes and Family Reactions

The conversation takes a humorous turn as Cale Lowry reveals an embarrassing childhood incident:

"I had touched my first wiener, and it was up in my attic, and I had, like, this little scrapbook... my dad saw it and was like, not about it."
— Cale Lowry [05:31]

He elaborates on his father's overreactions to his early explorations of sexuality, juxtaposing it with his family's generally relaxed attitudes toward other aspects of his life.

Defining Sexual Terms and Communication

Amidst the candid stories, Kale Lowry and Cale Lowry delve into the nuances of sexual terminology and communication:

Kale Lowry expresses discomfort with the term "flaccid" in non-sexual contexts:

"When my one of my kids was born, I was worried about, like, their muscle tone. And I kept saying to the doctors, like, she's flaccid. And the nurse was like, don't say that."
— Kale Lowry [06:22]

This moment underscores the importance of language sensitivity, especially when discussing personal and intimate topics.

Conclusion: Embracing Vulnerability and Authenticity

The episode wraps up with a reflection on the importance of embracing one's vulnerabilities and sharing authentic stories. By openly discussing their personal experiences, Kale Lowry and Cale Lowry embody the essence of Rulebreakers with Saraya, encouraging listeners to defy societal expectations and rewrite their own rules.

Notable Quotes

• Kale Lowry:

  "You don't have to be perfect. It's like you go through a lot of shit in your life and then when you come out the other side, that's what the fucking inspiration is."
  [01:11]

• Cale Lowry:

  "I lost my virginity on a sidewalk."
  [02:16]

• Cale Lowry:

  "I'm not just talking out of my ass."
  [01:32]

• Cale Lowry:

  "I have, like, this little scrapbook... my dad saw it and was like, not about it."
  [05:31]

For more in-depth conversations and additional episodes, search for Rulebreakers with Saraya wherever you get your podcasts.