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Gretchen (13:27)

I'm thinking if he lives in South Carolina, it would be very, very, very feasible for us to meet. I might have to dig a little deeper into this man. He asked me what I look like and I told him that I had blond hair, blue eyes. He asked me what my bra size was. I told him my bra size and he began describing himself to me. And he told me that he was 5 foot 10 and he had dark curly hair and he had big blue eyes and he was physically fit and he was a little older than me, but had been told that he could run circles around men half his age. I really, really was excited at the prospect of meeting this man again. He sounded nice looking, he was articulate, at least on chat anyway. And he then asked me where I lived and I said, well, I live in Raleigh, North Carolina. And he said, oh, that's interesting. I've got a daughter that lives near Raleigh. And I said, well, do you ever visit her? And he said, oh no, I never visit her because she comes here because I live at the beach and of course she would come here. And I said, oh really? Well, in South Carolina. I said, I was actually born in Charleston, South Carolina. And he said, well, I'm in Myrtle Beach. And I said, oh, well, I grew up in Myrtle Beach. My dad was the manager of a campground there in Myrtle beach that's not there anymore. It was Lake Arrowhead Campground, and it's now been turned into something else. And then he didn't type anything for a few seconds, and then he typed the word interesting and then he signed off. And my heart immediately sank. And I know that I must have gone pale because I was thinking, this man knows who I am. Why would I mention specifically the name of the campground where my dad worked and he sign off like that? It wasn't abnormal for men to do that further on in a chat conversation, but for it to happen so soon kind of raised some red flags. And I thought maybe it was one of the vendors from the campground or one of my dad's friends that were also affiliated with the campground. Regardless, I was creeped out. But I left our little box up because if he signed back in, it would light up. So I went and chatted with some other friends, and the box eventually lit back up, and so I went to it and I typed in, where did you go? And he didn't answer me. Instead, he said, what is your name? And I said, well, you first. And he said, if your name is Gretchen, what in the hell are you doing on this site? So my face went numb again, and I knew at this point exactly what I was dealing with. And I had no more illusions. So I just answered, well, Dad, I guess I'm doing the same thing here that you're doing, and this is kind of weird. And he said, you need to sign off immediately. And I said, excuse me, I think maybe I was here first. And he said, you are going to get killed here. And I'm so glad that this was not video chat, because I was grinning and laughing from ear to ear. At this point, I was also horrified, but I was thinking about the fact that I knew exactly where my dad's computer was, and I was envisioning him sitting in a chair with no pants on, giving me this parental lecture about the crazy people on this kinky site that are going to kill me. Especially when I had just divulged to him that I wanted to be the cruise ship whore and that he had just told me all kinds of things about himself, including his cock size. I was flooded with any kind of emotion there was, and I was uncomfortable, and all I could do was laugh. I said, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. First of all, I am a grown woman. Second of all, dad, you are not 5'ten as if to say, what else did you fabricate? And he said, okay, I see how this is gonna go, and let me tell you this. You stay out of my way. And then he signed off, and I never saw him sign back on again because I had it on alert that if he did, I wanted to know because I could go into hiding or sign off. I really did not want to witness anything else or be a part of anything else that was thoroughly grossed out. It was my dad. Fast forward a year, maybe a year and a half. I've switched sides, and I'm no longer a subbie girl in search of somebody to capture me and use me for horrible things. I am now a dominant female, and I have a real life subbie boy who is in the United States, in Chapel Hill on a work visa, and he is about to be shipped back off to England. And I wanted to take him to Myrtle beach, to the ocean. He had never seen the ocean. He had never been to an amusement park. And, you know, I wanted him to at least experience one aspect of white trash hell before he went back to England. So we went and visited Myrtle beach, and I took him to the Pavilion and we rode a roller coaster, and it was great. And I had told him the story about meeting my dad in the chat room, which this is the same place that I also met him. So he was very familiar with the way things worked there. And we went to my dad's house, and I said, do not bring this up. Well, my little subby boy identified as a brat, and brats do things to get in trouble. They're like imps. They can't help themselves. So he met my dad, and we got all the niceties out of the way, and he looked at my dad and said, so, do you ever go into the chat room anymore? And my dad just paused and he smiled a little bit, and he looked at my little brat and said, well, what you're talking about is I just stumbled upon that chat room that day, and I'd never been there before and I've never been back since. And my little subby boy said, with all due respect, sir, you and I both know that that is not true. And my dad said, okay, so let's get this straight. We're not having this conversation in this house. I'm not going to talk about this with you, and I am not going to talk about this with you. And he pointed at me, which was fine with me, and he said, so if you bring it back up again, I'm going to ask you both to. To leave, because this is something that I'm not comfortable talking to either of you with about. So. So we. We stopped talking about it. And we had a nice time after that. He, my dad was not being a jerk. He just kind of drew a line and we, we stayed behind the line. Thank. About five years ago, my dad passed away. And my parents had been divorced for years. But my mom came down to help my brother and I clean out my dad's condo. And we came across his goody drawer. And in the goody drawer was a huge pack of mint flavored condoms. And there was some other random things in there. And I found it and I said, oh, look, Mom. And she said, oh, that's so disgusting. And I said, well, you know, dad was a little bit of a freak. And she said, I know, I know. I find it to be just disgusting. And I said, well, you know, did I ever tell you about the time that I ran across him in an adult chat room? And she said, no, you didn't tell me about it. Which totally shocked me because we didn't talk about those kind of things. And I told her a nutshell version that was rated PG 13. Then I kind of felt guilty because I was in dad's house and I had just told the story in his house and he was gone. And we had made a pact and I still wanted to honor it. And that pact was two very specific directives from my father. Number one, stay out of my way. And number two, we are not talking about this in my house. And so my mom started to divulge some information and I just threw my hand up and said, mom, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's don't talk about this. Let's don't talk about this in this house. And she said, okay, that's fine. Which was probably the only time that I ever cut my mother off about sex. She usually is the one that stifles the conversation. My dad was very misunderstood. He was known as a ladies man and he cheated on his wife and he cheated on two wives. And he, you know, I really think it's a tragedy that he didn't have the resources that kinky people have today where they can be in a relationship that it's perfectly okay to, number one, not be monogamous if you don't want to be. And number two, to act on these kinky feelings that you feel are so strange that you have to hide and be ashamed of. We're not there anymore. It's evolved into something so much bigger and more normal than it was for someone that was born in 1947. So. So I'm kind of sad for him. I do wish that he would have been able to have some of the luxuries that I've been afforded with kink going semi mainstream.

Unknown (24:08)

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Gretchen (24:34)

Shouldn'T do again.

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What wasn't learned from from mistakes we will make them.

Gretchen (24:53)

Maybe.

Unknown (24:53)

This is my heart and maybe it is yours Burns away the eyes peering in our doors if I want to leave I will stand on my feet I do only takes these words you never believe are true Never gonna chase something It's a total waste running after what they take in Hundreds look what they praise not man.

Kevin Allison (25:40)

Well that is this week's episode. This is Wake Owl behind me now. And that was Gretchen's story. I must admit that just yesterday I was walking down 23rd street in Manhattan past a florist shop. He had a bunch of rattan and bamboo sticks for sale and I just had to grab one and kind of whoosh it through the air and make that sound. I know exactly where Gretchen is coming from.

Kevin Allison (26:12)

Speaking of today folks, today's the day.

Kevin Allison (26:17)

Take a risk.

Unknown (26:23)

If I want to leave I will stand on my feet I do only taste these words you never believe are true Never going to chase something it's a total waste right after what they take in hundred look at what they praise Nothing if I want to leave my will stand on my feet I do only take these words you never.

Gretchen (26:55)

Believe are true but my mom came down to help my brother and I clean out my dad's condo and we came across his goody drawer. And I remember opening the drawer and immediately hold on, hold on.

Kevin Allison (27:13)

I've got to put my cat away.

Gretchen (27:27)

Yes, you can see my that's my pussy to consider. There has to be accommodation for my.

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