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That UFO Podcast
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Bringing you up to date news, interviews and guests from around the world of UFOs, UAP & connected phenomena
Hosted by Andy McGrillen
Hosted by Andy McGrillen
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Skywatcher Goes In-House? Ross Coulthart’s White Sands Claims & UAP Crash Retrievals
Yesterday02:13:58Summary readyAndy and Pavel break down Ross Coulthart’s extraordinary new reporting on Skywatcher and what may have happened after the public-facing project went quiet.Ross claims individuals and techniques connected to Skywatcher have effectively been taken “in-house”, with a covert US government operation at White Sands allegedly using the same Dog Whistle technology and psionic methods to summon, detect and even attempt to bring down UAP. He further claims the operation was personally authorised by President Trump and designed to circumvent the alleged Legacy Program.We get into the El Paso shutdown, White Sands, the alleged use of directed-energy weapons, questions over civilian aircraft, Garry Nolan’s involvement, whether Ross’s sources can be trusted, and the uncomfortable ethics of deliberately summoning something only to shoot at it.Plus, TIME Magazine asks why America is finally taking extraterrestrials seriously, as the UFO subject continues its move into mainstream scientific and political discussion.🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
SummaryDylan Borland, Bigelow’s Disclosure Plan & UAP File Drop 5 | Doomer Friday
4d ago02:31:11Summary readyBuy Andy's book here - https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOsAndy joins the Doomer Friday crew for a huge discussion after another packed week in UAP news.We break down Dylan Borland’s extensive interview with Jesse Michaels, including whistleblower retaliation, restitution, disclosure and the extraordinary suggestion that humans may not ultimately be the ones in control.Robert Bigelow is also back, speaking with George Knapp about recovered craft, legacy programs, blanket immunity for gatekeepers and the advice he gave President Trump on potentially acknowledging a non-human intelligence presence.Plus, the fifth official UAP file drop has arrived. We look at what was released, the lack of meaningful contributions from some agencies, the new material on black triangles and why this may be the most disappointing tranche yet.Are we actually moving closer to disclosure, simple confirmation, or something far more controlled?With Clint from The Night Shift, Pavel from Psicoactivo and Xander from Dreamland Motel.🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
SummaryDanny Sheehan: Grusch’s Hidden Role, AARO Failures & the UAP Power Struggle
5d ago01:38:55Summary readyConstitutional attorney Danny Sheehan returns for one of our most direct and grounded conversations yet.Danny reveals what he says was a previously unknown role played by David Grusch in reviewing challenges to the security clearances of Lue Elizondo and Chris Mellon following their involvement with The New York Times.He also accuses former AARO director Sean Kirkpatrick of ignoring named sources during Danny’s testimony, claiming Kirkpatrick would stop taking notes whenever specific individuals were identified, before later telling Congress that AARO had received no actionable details.We also discuss:Lue Elizondo’s alleged knowledge of UAP activity off Baja and Guadalupe Island, the proposed UAP governance board, whether Elizondo or Grusch should accept a role within it, the presidential NDA waiver, whistleblower protections, amnesty for alleged gatekeepers and the federal racketeering complaint Danny says he has been asked to help prepare.Danny also faces direct questions about evidence, credibility, claims he has rejected and what could ultimately change his own understanding of the phenomenon.https://newparadigminstitute.org/🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
SummaryUFO Disclosure in Crisis: Whistleblowers, Waived NDAs & the Elizondo-Gerb Fallout
1w ago01:35:08Summary readyAndy joins Pavel for a deep dive into an increasingly divided UFO disclosure movement. They examine the new UAP NDA waiver, Matthew Brown and Dylan Borland’s warnings about AARO, ODNI and PURSUE, and whether whistleblowers are genuinely protected or being directed back into the same system they distrust.They also unpack Lue Elizondo’s response to UAP Gerb, Ross Coulthart’s role in the growing controversy, the competing camps forming around disclosure and the mounting pressure on David Grusch to deliver on his 60-to-90-day timeline. Is this necessary scrutiny, deliberate division or a movement beginning to turn on itself?🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
SummaryChris Ramsay: Bob Lazar, Underwater UFOs & What He Really Believes
1w ago01:25:15Summary readyArea 52 creator Chris Ramsay joins Andy for a wide-ranging conversation about how a magician and puzzle creator with seven million subscribers became one of the most distinctive voices in UFO media. Chris explains why he remains low-conviction on most claims, how remote viewing and his experiences connected to the Monroe Institute changed his outlook, and why he believes the current disclosure debate may be distracting people from the real work.Chris also discusses the alleged mobile underwater construction unit, the UFO cases and witnesses he finds most convincing, and why official confirmation may never satisfy the UFO community. Later, he recounts his private conversation with Bob Lazar and explains why Lazar’s reaction raised his conviction, offers a more cautious assessment of Travis Walton, and describes a waking out-of-body experience he believes was distinct from a lucid dream.A thoughtful, funny and surprisingly personal conversation about belief, evidence, consciousness, disclosure and why the mystery may matter as much as the answer.Tickets for Chris's tour - https://itsprobablynothing.com/🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
SummaryJonathan Caplan KC: UFO Secrecy, Majestic 12 and the Case Beyond Reasonable Doubt
2w ago01:10:49Summary readyAndy is joined by Jonathan Caplan KC, one of the UK’s leading criminal barristers and the author of Not for Disclosure: UFOs, The World’s Best-Kept Secret.Drawing on five decades of interest in the subject, Jonathan explains why he believes the UFO phenomenon is real, why governments have kept it hidden and why, in his view, the evidence could meet the criminal standard of proof beyond reasonable doubt.The conversation covers the alleged 1994 craft landing in Russia, Britain’s historic relationship with the United States on UFO matters, Five Eyes, Majestic 12, Rendlesham Forest, private defence contractors, intimidation of insiders and the limits of the current disclosure process. Jonathan also explains why he believes the phenomenon may involve several different forms of non-human intelligence, rather than a single extraterrestrial source.A wide-ranging discussion about evidence, secrecy, national security and what governments may still be withholding from the public.Get the book - https://amzn.eu/d/00p8uJdK🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
SummaryUFO Disclosure or Disinformation? Grusch 3 Years On, Elizondo, Erdman & the NDAA
2w ago01:56:36Summary readyAndy is joined by Pavel from the Psychoactivo Podcast to take stock of a UFO topic caught between apparent political progress, persistent secrecy and growing frustration.Three years after David Grusch’s historic congressional testimony about recovered craft and non-human biologics, has disclosure meaningfully moved forward, or are we still treading water?They examine Eric Burlison’s latest comments on whistleblowers and the UAP Disclosure Act, what the announcement about waiving UAP-related NDAs actually changes, and why permission to speak is not the same as genuine legal protection.Also discussed: former CIA officer James Erdman III’s warning about disinformation, counterintelligence and grift within the UFO subject; Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp’s role in the current disclosure effort; the frustration surrounding promised evidence and unreleased material; and reported comments from Lue Elizondo involving Knapp.Plus, listener questions on managed transparency, Donald Trump’s interest in disclosure, the Nazca mummies, media sensationalism and whether the UFO community’s biggest problem is now secrecy, personalities or the continued lack of undeniable evidence.https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
SummaryWhat Is Hidden Beneath Antarctica? UFOs, Secret Bases and Hollow Earth with Brad Olsen
3w ago01:18:40Summary readyAuthor, explorer and researcher Brad Olsen joins Andy to investigate the enduring mysteries surrounding Antarctica.Brad recounts his own journey to the frozen continent before exploring the extraordinary claims connected to Admiral Richard E. Byrd, Operation Highjump, alleged German bases, ancient maps, pyramid-shaped mountains and the Antarctic Treaty.The conversation also examines reports of unusual radio signals emerging from beneath the ice, theories about hidden civilisations and Hollow Earth, and Brad’s belief that Antarctica may hold one of the most important secrets in the wider UFO disclosure story.Where does documented history end, where does speculation begin, and what could still be hidden beneath the ice?Topics include:Admiral Byrd and his disputed diaryOperation HighjumpUFOs and alleged secret basesThe Antarctic TreatyAncient maps and lost civilisationsUnusual radio and cosmic-ray detectionsHollow Earth and underground societiesThe biggest secret Antarctica may still be keepingBrads work - https://cccpublishing.com/product/secrets-of-antarctica-the-untold-history-of-the-ice-continent/🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
SummaryBREAKING NEWS: Trump Removes the UAP NDA Barrier | Is Disclosure About to Advance?
3w ago00:24:39Summary readyPresident Donald Trump has reportedly directed government agencies to waive non-disclosure agreements for former officials and contractors who want to share relevant UAP information through authorised federal channels.In this breaking news episode, Andy examines what the decision actually means, why witnesses must still approach AARO or the PURSUE task force, and why this is not yet a blanket declassification of UFO information.Could figures such as Lue Elizondo, Eric Davis, James Lacatski or the witnesses interviewed by David Grusch now reveal more? Is this the major development Grusch suggested could happen within 60 to 90 days? And will this finally lead to stronger files, firsthand testimony and evidence reaching the public?The episode also covers the reaction from Eric Burlison, Anna Paulina Luna, Tim Burchett and Avi Loeb, along with the remaining concerns around retaliation, whistleblower protection and trust in the official process.For years, the public has been told that people with firsthand knowledge could not speak because of NDAs. One of those barriers may now have been removed.So, who walks through the door first?🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
SummaryTrump’s Puzzling Message to Dr Phil & “Next-Level” UFO Files Coming?
3w ago01:33:52Summary readyAndy and Pavel return to break down the latest developments surrounding the US government’s UFO disclosure push.Dan Farah claims another tranche of evidence could arrive within weeks, with “next-level extraordinary stuff” potentially being released before the end of the year. Meanwhile, Dr Phil was reportedly given early access to the latest UFO files alongside a handwritten message from President Trump: “Have fun with this.” Is Dr Phil being positioned as a mainstream messenger for disclosure, or are people reading too much into it?Also discussed: the revised UAP Disclosure Act amendment, the mysterious Reality Transparency Act, David Grusch’s rapidly closing 90-day window, Jeff Nuccitelli joining Vanguard, Ross Coulthart’s interest in the controversial CARET documents, Chris Bledsoe’s fork experiment, billionaire access to alleged UFO secrets, and what may really be happening on the Moon.https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
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