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Monet X Change
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Monet X Change
That's what happens when you try to venture out with other drag queens without me, honey.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah. You know, I've never experienced being on a pod with a crazy person, so I can't relate to Monet's experience.
Monet X Change
What could that be?
Trixie Mattel
Yeah, I don't know, you guys, this was so meant to be. Bob and I are so booked and blessed that we're never here together. And Bob literally has a studio next to our Trixie cosmetic whatever complex. And you were there today and Tracy was like, should you see if Bob will do it? I was like, well, Bob's about to leave on tour and if I don't speak now, you'll be gone for months.
Monet X Change
What's my last. What was my. Yes, my last two shows for? I mean, about this probably already happened.
Trixie Mattel
Wait, are you in the middle of the tour?
Monet X Change
I'm at the very end of the U.S. leg.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, I thought you were your buses out there, cuz you were packing it up.
Monet X Change
No, we're bringing it back.
Trixie Mattel
Oh good. Cuz I was hoping you could plug your show.
Monet X Change
Yeah, no, we're bringing it back. I mean, but I think. When does this come out?
Trixie Mattel
Like two or three years.
Monet X Change
It was so. Yeah, the uk. So the UK tour is still happening. I still. I'm still going to the uk. I can get those dates.
Trixie Mattel
We like to hold the episodes until someone dies and then the views spike and.
Monet X Change
And I can make sure someone dies. You pick who it is. I'll get rid of them.
Trixie Mattel
Well, well, well. You guys, Bob just said she wants to get a Stanley. This is the Barbie. This is the Ken Stanley. I'm going to tell you, you put ice in it. It's. It's three days later that ice is still fucking in there.
Monet X Change
So I don't drink cold drinks though. I drink room temperature drinks.
Trixie Mattel
I don't. You do not need this, like almost.
Monet X Change
But, but, but I want to drink more water. So I bought a Stanley, but I Left it in a hotel room which is upsetting because it was like it was very expensive but Trixie she going to give me one so. Yeah, and I was swing by your house.
Trixie Mattel
No, I know. No, no, no, you can, you definitely can because Barbie sent me all those Barbie Stanleys and I got like nine of them so you have to take it.
Monet X Change
Oh that's exciting. And I had a purple Stanley.
Trixie Mattel
Oh that would have been nice.
Monet X Change
Yeah, it was nice until. Until I lost it.
Trixie Mattel
Well we have Barbie and the rockers which is purple. Otherwise the black Barbie Stanley.
Monet X Change
How much have you left in hotel rooms?
Trixie Mattel
How much time do we have? Two, two Apple. Two, two watches. Apple watches.
Monet X Change
So upsetting.
Trixie Mattel
And probably two iPads. Not to mention every type of self care.
Monet X Change
You know what the killer razors, cream face cream flossers.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah.
Monet X Change
If you are in a room behind me you don't have to go toiletry shopping girl.
Trixie Mattel
It's all there. The woman who cleans the room or male or whoever cleans the room after they're just at cvs.
Monet X Change
Literally.
Trixie Mattel
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Monet X Change
So I've started putting by, I go to CVS and I buy the little mini. Little mini and I just fill them up at home.
Trixie Mattel
That's nice.
Monet X Change
That way when I get back because I was, I kept buying, I was on the run, I was like oh I don't have. I use this oil cleanser called you know, Cerave.
Trixie Mattel
Uh huh.
Monet X Change
Survey. Is that, am I saying it right?
Trixie Mattel
It's like C E R V A. Yes.
Monet X Change
Yeah. And I use it because I get like these like sebaceous filaments. I found that.
Trixie Mattel
I know that queen.
Monet X Change
Yeah, she's just.
Trixie Mattel
Ladies and gentlemen, Sebaceous Filament.
Monet X Change
She's on Dracula.
Trixie Mattel
I thought of a good drag name the other day. Antipublicity.
Monet X Change
That is a good one.
Trixie Mattel
It's good publicity.
Monet X Change
Publicity is good. Any publicity and then is it good publicity? No, that's probably not great. But yeah, I use Cerave and I kept buying more and more Survey cuz I like. Oh I couldn't. You can't. You don't want to travel with a big thing cuz like it gets everywhere. It always uncaps and everything in your, in your bag is oily and wet or whatever and then I just started filling them up and I now if I lose those little things, it's not a big deal. Yeah, yeah.
Trixie Mattel
Can I tell you how jealous I am that you just went to see Wicked? Can you tell me about it?
Monet X Change
Wicked, Let me say right now Bob.
Trixie Mattel
Went to the premiere. She looked great.
Monet X Change
I. I'm not going to lie. I did look pretty good. I'm not.
Trixie Mattel
And Jake. Damn, my earring came out.
Monet X Change
It's fine.
Trixie Mattel
I'll do the one Alexa play. I have nothing.
Monet X Change
I'll do the one earring. It's kind of. It's kind of cut.
Trixie Mattel
It's gay now. It's gay now.
Monet X Change
But, yeah, so I am a big fan of movie musicals, and I go see almost all of them. I didn't see Mamma Mia, but I will go see almost all of them because I'm always like, this is going to be the one that's going to bring back music. In my humble opinion, Chicago was the resurgence of the 2002. Chicago was like, oh, movie musicals are good again.
Trixie Mattel
That's an amazing movie musical. Have you ever seen the play?
Monet X Change
Of course. Yeah, I saw. I saw. I saw Todrick hall in. In the West End. I saw Jinx Monsoon on Broadway.
Trixie Mattel
I hate to say I. I like the movie more than.
Monet X Change
Oh, the movie is better than the live show.
Trixie Mattel
This is.
Monet X Change
This is. This is like public information. Yeah, no, the. The movie is much better.
Trixie Mattel
I went to see Todrick and famously walked out in the middle, and he knows about it.
Monet X Change
Before. What number did you walk out on.
Trixie Mattel
At the intermission, I was like, you guys, Todrick is giving. Todrick was giving. And then the rest. I was like, these. These people have been doing this show. I can see it in their eyes.
Monet X Change
You said, well, I'm out.
Trixie Mattel
Isn't that horrible? And you know what else? I think it was a. But did I buy a ticket? I think it was a free ticket.
Monet X Change
That's crazy.
Trixie Mattel
Isn't that. But Todrick knows.
Monet X Change
I mean.
Trixie Mattel
But then I saw Todrick and Kinky Boots and stayed for all of that because I loved it, because I love Cyndi Lauper. Come see me. Wait, by the time this comes out, I'll already have open for Cyndi Lauper. I'm on your shit now.
Monet X Change
Congratulations.
Trixie Mattel
You're out with Madonna. I'm out with Cindy Lauper.
Monet X Change
That's amazing.
Trixie Mattel
Copying you.
Monet X Change
So I saw Touching Kinky Boost, too, and I ran into RuPaul outside of the building. I was like, oh, my God, RuPaul.
Trixie Mattel
What'd she say?
Monet X Change
She turned around and she was like, hey. She wasn't looking. And I was like, it's Bob. Which I don't know if she recognized.
Trixie Mattel
She's like, Barker. Literally.
Monet X Change
And she was like, hope. And I was like, bob. I was at Bob the Drag. She's like, oh, and then we, like, had a brief. It was outside and there were a lot of fans, so she kind of booked it.
Trixie Mattel
Can I tell you, there's this one moment I think about a lot, and I don't like, super. You know, I'm not doing Pit Stop. Or you're doing Pit Stop. I don't really always watch Drag Race now, but I know about this time that at Dragcon, RuPaul forgot Jinx his name.
Monet X Change
Oh.
Trixie Mattel
And if you know Jinx, you know that she thinks about that every day.
Monet X Change
Seattle. Seattle.
Trixie Mattel
You know that Jinx every night goes to bed and is like, I can't believe.
Monet X Change
Oh, obsessing my name to this day.
Trixie Mattel
It's horny.
Monet X Change
I heard when they crown her, she was like. And the winner is Seattle. It's so the queen of all queens, Seattle.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah. How do you think we would do in all winners? Would we slay? You would.
Monet X Change
You know, in all honesty, I do think I'd go very far. I. In my mind, I think I win. But I'm also low key, a little bit delusional. I mean, when they called me for Drag Race, sight unseen, before I had seen a. Knew who a single competitor was, I was like, I just want Drag Race. This is crazy. Which is kind of absurd.
Trixie Mattel
No, it's. But, Bob, it's not. I don't want to blow smoke. I just told the last two guests, I said, what's amazing. What, Bob, is the higher the stakes, the more people are watching, the more it's a razor thin ice skate that she has to ride on in the moment, the more she delivers.
Monet X Change
Yeah. I thrive.
Trixie Mattel
Thrive. It's like, you'll have a great show for a hundred people or an incredible show for a thousand people. It's like, you know, you're not wrong.
Monet X Change
Thank you for saying that. I'm like a volcano when the pressure's on. It's a show, honey, and everyone. And someone's gonna get hurt. Someone's gonna get fucking hurt in this bitch, honey.
Trixie Mattel
Because I've seen you. God. I mean, I've seen you at Caroline's. I've seen your. I've seen you at bars. I've seen you with Monet. I've seen you, really, in every iteration up to Madonna even. I haven't seen this tour. Are.
Monet X Change
You know, you see me everywhere from industry to Madison Square. No, not. You didn't see Madison Square. You saw me in. I was in Texas.
Trixie Mattel
Yes.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
Yes.
Monet X Change
And so you feel me from literally a bar show to an arena show, which is kind of gaggy.
Trixie Mattel
And you're just. You're. You're unaffected by anything. Like, what if I don't do well? What if this flops? You just plug in and drive it and it's perfect.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I'm just trying to do the best I can. I mean, there have been times where I was performing at Hardware Bar. I've always said that there were more people working at the bar than there were people patronizing the bar.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, yeah.
Monet X Change
Like, it was like. But I was like, I'm going to put on a motherfucking show. We're going to do a good job. We're going to have a good show. And to be honest, some of those shows felt as good as performing at Madison Square Garden. It felt as good as performing for 1.6 million people in Rio de Janeiro. Like, the number. The size of the crowd doesn't necessarily make me perform harder.
Trixie Mattel
Not at all. But especially for comedy, if it's a smaller room. I was just talking to somebody about this. It's like under 300, you know, they can see, like, your eyes and subtle nuances, and so you almost feel, like, really connected, you know, obsessed with.
Monet X Change
Obsessed with you with. What's that guy's name? The guy who has the. The radio guy. You did his podcast, and he was like, in these bars, he goes, yeah, there are bars in the theaters, Zach. That was so bitchy. And so, you know, it was. It was epic.
Trixie Mattel
I wasn't trying to be bitchy or cunty, but I was like, you gathered. No, because.
Monet X Change
No, I did not.
Trixie Mattel
I didn't stop. I didn't. Bob. I didn't gather. No, I did not. Yaki bundles all the way on the top. I gathered. Then I did, like, a box break. Yes, it was a full.
Monet X Change
That was so great. I love that.
Trixie Mattel
But I didn't mean it that way. I just thought, wow, I'm happy to be here. But he thinks that I am currently at a local gig rolling around on the sticky floor for wet singles. He thinks that that's what I'm doing.
Monet X Change
I know what y'all do.
Trixie Mattel
And by the. I've done it and I'm not above it, and I'll do it again. But that's not what we're doing today.
Monet X Change
That clip of you lip syncing at the brunch, and everyone's like, honey, the rent must be. Did you know about people saying this when you did the comedy?
Trixie Mattel
Can I tell you?
Monet X Change
Everyone was like, the rent must have been too, baby. The mortgage must have been mortgages.
Trixie Mattel
You're such a liar.
Monet X Change
I Didn't say. This is what the Internet was saying.
Trixie Mattel
No. Can I just say that all of these little think that they're my personal accountant? Because sometimes I do something and they're like, get that coin. I'm like, are you H and R Blanc?
Monet X Change
She must have.
Trixie Mattel
What are you talking about?
Monet X Change
She must have been broke.
Trixie Mattel
She must have been broke. No, bitch. If I showed you what they paid me, bitch, you would get out there and spread your hole and let your father fuck you. Okay, so what else, bitch?
Monet X Change
And I've done that for.
Trixie Mattel
And I do it for free. No, I just think it's funny because if I lip sync, people think that I have. That's like an ISIS thing. People like, they really drag Trixie in to do this. And I'm like, listen, I might not be good at lip syncing, but I never said I hated it.
Monet X Change
No, Trixie likes lip syncing. We.
Trixie Mattel
I like it.
Monet X Change
The. The tour that. The first tour that we did together, you were up there lip syncing for your life and, like, living. You were living.
Trixie Mattel
Love it. I love lip syncing. I just. I'm not known for being the best at it, but that's kind of my brand is to be just mid at everything.
Monet X Change
I don't think you're mid. I think you excel at a lot of things you do. You're. You're obviously. I think obviously with the makeup and having an iconic look and with branding and with. I don't think people realize this, y'all. The fact that Brian Farkus, Trixie Mattel, Dupree Balenciaga III is releasing.
Trixie Mattel
Andrews.
Monet X Change
Andrews.
Trixie Mattel
Thank you, Davenport.
Monet X Change
Davenport. Dupree has been releasing content on the schedule she does. I don't think I understand how. How hard it is. It's insane now be damned. The YouTube videos. But the YouTube video and the podcast and then the Tiktoks and then the live shows and.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, for a long time. Then the pit stop done well, round break. Yeah. And then the pit stop when you weren't breaking news. And then the pit stop when you.
Monet X Change
Were doing and watching what we.
Trixie Mattel
Then I like to watch then tour dates, then Trixie, like, for a while it was like, I wonder why you needed a break, girl. It was no good.
Monet X Change
You so good.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, everybody keeps telling me how happy I look, which I think means obese. So thank you.
Monet X Change
No, you look. No, you look good, girl. I mean, I don't want to. I don't. I don't want to speak out of turn here, but you look really healthy.
Trixie Mattel
I looked bad for a while. It was bad. And I haven't felt. I have, like, reverse body dysmorphia now, because even though that unhealthy mental breakdown Skinny didn't look good, that was the first time I ever felt thin. So now being back to, like, my normal pant size, I feel it's hard for me to not feel bad about.
Monet X Change
You look good.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, thank you.
Monet X Change
You look really, really good.
Trixie Mattel
Thank you, thank you.
Monet X Change
Yeah, when I started, I was like, oh, my God. It made me happy.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, thank you. Well, I was. When I watched English Teacher, I was like, oh, my God. I look like a skeleton.
Monet X Change
It was not special effects makeup, y'all.
Trixie Mattel
No, it was.
Monet X Change
No, you had. You had the teeth thing.
Trixie Mattel
They did the yellow teeth. They also did, like, blue and red around the eyes to make me look a little more.
Monet X Change
I took your veneers off and those just. Well, they were like the old school.
Trixie Mattel
No, they. I made them clip them off.
Monet X Change
She was like, y'all saw these. Y'all saw these motherfuckers on season seven?
Trixie Mattel
Yeah.
Monet X Change
They're back in the house.
Trixie Mattel
I know. I think it's so funny because you wanna talk about delusion? I never thought I had difficult teeth. And then.
Monet X Change
Can I please fix this Is driving me. Oh, my God. That was gonna make me cry. That was crazy stuff.
Trixie Mattel
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Monet X Change
Yeah, we did. Yeah. Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
So we. We met. Bob and I met. I had just done Season seven, and I had known all the drag queens in the world knew about Bob's work from, like, Facebook was kind of the thing at the time.
Monet X Change
Yeah. It was pretty big. Yeah. Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
And so I messaged Bob, I think, or you messaged me. I bet if we logged into our account, somehow we could see it.
Monet X Change
I realized. So I had a honey. A Honey Bunks. I had a roommate named Honey lebronx.
Trixie Mattel
Yes.
Monet X Change
Honey lebronx is from Wawatosa, Wisconsin.
Trixie Mattel
Yes.
Monet X Change
And she would go back to perform, but she lived in New York City for a long time. Still lives in New York City to this day.
Trixie Mattel
Legendary vegan activist.
Monet X Change
Yes, y'all. She's like, by the way, when you think about it, Wicked is really a animal rights movie.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah. It's a. I mean, the animals should be seen and not heard.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
On the broader side, we didn't even.
Monet X Change
Talk about Wicked yet. Oh, my God.
Trixie Mattel
The way you skipped over it.
Monet X Change
Well, should we do this or should we go back?
Trixie Mattel
Do you think that we could have been Ariana and Cynthia under no circumstances watching that film?
Monet X Change
Maybe one of us could have played the character boy and Yang played. Maybe.
Trixie Mattel
Maybe on a good day, if there's extra CGI. Yeah.
Monet X Change
Yeah, maybe. Possibly. Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
Who plays Dr. Dillamond?
Monet X Change
It's. It's Peter Dinklage.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, I love. Yes.
Monet X Change
But it's his voice. Cause it's a CGI goat.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, I didn't know that. Okay, well, I love the play and I love the musical. I can't wait to see it. You Looked amazing.
Monet X Change
So what I was saying was, in 2002, I think Chicago saved the movie musical because in my humble opinion, Gene Kelly did a. Xanadu was kind of the death of the movie musical in, like, the 80s, right? It was like, wow, Olivia Newton John and Xanadu. This was not a great. This wasn't a great one, right? And moving music was a big deal, and they kind of just fell off. And people were not the whole 90s. People were like, we're not fucking around movie music. Y'all can make some, but we don't really fuck with them. 2002, Chicago came out, changed the game.
Trixie Mattel
It did. I mean, Rene Zellweger, and they eat everyone.
Monet X Change
Perfectly everyone. Queen Latifah, everyone. Richard Riley Johnson. This movie was perfectly awesome. The director, every single person down to the. To the. To the matrons of Murder and Cell Box Tango over to the lady who plays Mary Sunshine. Perfectly cast film, right? And then. Then there's that. Now it's like, movie, musical, movie, musical, movie, musical. The next big, big, big one that was huge and successful, in my humble opinion, was Dreamgirls 2006. Dream Girls was a brilliant film. Absolutely brilliant film.
Trixie Mattel
Wasn't hairspray first?
Monet X Change
No.
Trixie Mattel
2005?
Monet X Change
No, no. Hairspray was not. Was it? Hairspray is not in 2005.
Trixie Mattel
We're gonna be Monet.
Monet X Change
Look it up.
Trixie Mattel
I would love to be. Right.
Monet X Change
I want to say hairspray was 2008 or 2010.
Trixie Mattel
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, off, off. I tried to get you so good.
Monet X Change
So then. And, you know, Hasbro was good. It wasn't as good as Dream Girls and. And Chicago, in my opinion. And then we're getting Mamma Mia. Last five years, we're getting Les Mis. We're getting all these, which are like. Which are. They're fine. And then. So I did not have high expectations going into Wicked. I really did not. And to be clear, this is how I got an invitation to the premiere. When I was in Italy, Cynthia Rivo texts me, and she goes, I wanna come see Madonna tonight. I'm in town. And I said, I got you. It was the day of the show. I said, I got you. Cause I like you and you always been friends. You've always been kind to my people. So this has always been very lovely. So I got her a ticket.
Trixie Mattel
As opposed to Ariana, who hates you.
Monet X Change
Hates me.
Trixie Mattel
Famously.
Monet X Change
Did not text me.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah.
Monet X Change
So I had even. I had McDonald's manager go out there, grab her, take her to her seat, everything. And then I Takes her back and say, I gotta be honest with you, Cynthia. I never do this. But I'm. I'm calling. I'm calling back in that favor. I need to go to the Wicked premiere.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, fear.
Monet X Change
I gotta go. And she takes back. She goes, I got you.
Trixie Mattel
Hell, yeah.
Monet X Change
And.
Trixie Mattel
And I went, women supporting women.
Monet X Change
Women supporting bald women supporting bald women.
Trixie Mattel
You cannot. We weren't bald for the function. I saw the picture and I thought, is it an installed unit?
Monet X Change
It's an install.
Trixie Mattel
Okay.
Monet X Change
Yeah, it's a unit. Yeah. Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
Can I.
Monet X Change
But it's giving, though.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah, it's giving, you guys, it looks like fucking hair. And can I tell you, it really is completely disguised, too, like you. I'm looking right at it. It looks perfect.
Monet X Change
This is like when you see RuPaul up close and you're like, let me clock it. But you can't clock it because she looks really good.
Trixie Mattel
I love to look at RuPaul's everything. The freckles, the eyebrows, the lack thereof. The way she does her eyebrows, too. Like, they're there, but.
Monet X Change
You mean her boy dress. Her boy bra. Yeah. Those bras are fierce.
Trixie Mattel
They look good, but not too makeupy, you know?
Monet X Change
Apparently she does them herself. She does her own boy brows.
Trixie Mattel
I believe that.
Monet X Change
That's what she said. I heard. What's. He's coming back. Is that true? Have you heard this rumor?
Trixie Mattel
I've heard that rumor, too. I heard it from work.
Monet X Change
I was. Did you ever do.
Trixie Mattel
What's t. No. You never did it famously? Never asked.
Monet X Change
That's crazy. I did once.
Trixie Mattel
Done. I think twice.
Monet X Change
What?
Trixie Mattel
Mary, that's wild. A good old trace. I'm telling you, there's something about me that eight people, eight drag queens have to die that day. Like, I will get in there, but it's always like, a random fluke.
Monet X Change
Well, I found out that I did not know this until someone pointed out recently. I was kind of like, oh. And I was like, I guess it is true. A lot of. I get called when a lot of queens can't do stuff. I did not know this was a thing, but I've done it for Bianca. I've done it for you. I've done it for you.
Trixie Mattel
You did it for me on Trixie and Katya Show.
Monet X Change
I've done it for Monet. I've done it for Jinkx. No, I don't think I've ever done it for Jinx, but I. There have been times where, like, they're like, the queen couldn't do the thing. And then, you know, why they're like, who's the next best?
Trixie Mattel
Because you're gonna do it and it's gonna be good.
Monet X Change
Like, who's the next best thing?
Trixie Mattel
You filled in for me also when I had my other men tb. And you went into that music festival, didn't you do Outside Lands?
Monet X Change
Yeah, I did Outside Lands.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah, Bob girl.
Monet X Change
And I did. And I filled in for you when you. When you. When your body exploded from the inside out.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, yes.
Monet X Change
For that DJ gig. And then I kind of got into it with. What's that lady's name? She's a Latinx singer. She had a huge hit song at the time. I didn't get into it.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, did my appendix explode?
Monet X Change
What happened? Yeah, you're on a plane, you're spending. Your appendix exploded for Halloween. Halloween. It was Halloween. Yeah. And what's her name? Her name is.
Trixie Mattel
Do this, bitch. I'll come over and break those figures off.
Monet X Change
I can't remember this lady's name. But anyway, she was Paul Abdul. No, Paula. There was this lady standing in the doorway, and I was trying to get back to my DJ because I had to. Because I had to introduce the Kaliuchi. I had to introduce. I had to introduce Kaliuchi. And I was like, okay. I was like, excuse me. I said, pardon me. I would say, pardon me. This lady would not move. I was like, pardon me. And I lay out the excuse and I had to like, move this one with my hand. So, like, I don't know what she had in.
Trixie Mattel
Sometimes they can't hear you.
Monet X Change
I thought it was attitude problem because I thought it was just some lady standing in the doorway. And I was like, this lady is not moving. And I got to the digit and I was like, okay, now that I've gotten past that weirdo, let me introduce the guest of honor tonight. Give it up for Kaliuchi. And that was the woman I was blocking that was blocking the way. I had no clue.
Trixie Mattel
Excuse me. Weirdo.
Monet X Change
Literally, I was like, job to do. I was like, can you. I'm introduced to someone very, very important.
Trixie Mattel
We're honoring someone. You need to move.
Monet X Change
And yeah, that's also famously. One time when Layla did my makeup for the Madonna Pride show before I did the tour. When you wear in ears, you really can't.
Trixie Mattel
You can't hear anything.
Monet X Change
I'm telling you, the world's blocked out. They're the most noise canceling anything that ever existed anywhere.
Trixie Mattel
Can you guys hear? Do they. Do they feed an audience for you? For Madonna or.
Monet X Change
No, not really. Yeah, not really.
Trixie Mattel
It's hard and when you've ever done. If you've ever done a show where you have ears and you have breaks to do standup, you almost have to pull it out or you can't hear them laughing.
Monet X Change
I've never done it for standup, but I have done. I guess. I was telling jokes at the beginning of Madonna, but it was. It was so scripted that I was like. There was no time to pause anyway. Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
And it was like underscoring too. Yeah.
Monet X Change
It was in time with music, so I had to keep moving on. There was one time. So my in ear feed for the tour was the same as Madonna. We had to. I was hearing what she was hearing and Madonna's singing live and they're. This was crazy. They're. They're like talking to you while you're singing. I don't know how she was doing this. Like, they'll be like, get ready to blah, blah, blah. And she. She'd be like Greta Garbo, Anne Monroe, Dietrich and DiMaggio, like dancing and singing. It was. It's a skill you learn over time. Obviously she's been. She's had years of practice. It. And. And I remember being like, this is. This will make me crazy.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah. Sometimes when I play with the band and we play to click, the ears will be like, intro, 2, 3, 4. They'll like. There's a voice that clicks in and be like, verse one. It'll say, you know.
Monet X Change
But they'll be like, watch out for this person on your right. Oops, someone's out of place. Or something like that. Man. But she just doesn't miss a beat. Keeps dancing. But when you had 40 years of.
Trixie Mattel
Practice, I mean, I saw you guys in Austin and I had that brief cameo on the show.
Monet X Change
And your hair caused the scene.
Trixie Mattel
It did.
Monet X Change
Your hair went viral because there's a picture of you from the back with Madonna and your hair is like the size of Madonna.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah, you were.
Monet X Change
You wore really big hair that day.
Trixie Mattel
It was a man, huge hair. It was giant. That show was the best show I've ever seen.
Monet X Change
It's a great. It was a great show. If you missed it, you missed it. But I mean, Celebration Tour was great.
Trixie Mattel
I was a fan of Madonna's the guitar playing, the singing live singing, the production. So much live singing. Yeah, it was amazing.
Monet X Change
I would say this, if you're a casual fan of Madonna, I like her music. If you go see a show, you will leave a true. I'm telling you right now, no one puts on a show like Madonna, Esther, Luis Ciccone, Veronica Ciccone. No one does a show like Iman Dupree. Balenciaga.
Trixie Mattel
Yes. Andrews.
Monet X Change
Andrews.
Trixie Mattel
She was so amazing. I left being like, wow, I just saw the goat, like. And also, as I was watching, I was like, she is also doing the medium that she kind of invented.
Monet X Change
No, she invented. She invented this theatrical arena tour. Yeah, she invented it before Madonna. It was just like, literally, you on stage with a band strumming and just like, kind of like talking along. But she literally. It is a theatrical. What'd she call it in. In her documentary? It's a theatrical presentation of her art or something like that. And it really is that. It was. She's. She's. She's. She's where she is for a reason.
Trixie Mattel
There's this one Madonna anecdote from Truth or Dare where she goes like, do something else. Do my brows. I say that all the time.
Monet X Change
Do something else. Do my brows.
Trixie Mattel
Because the makeup artist is trying to do her lips while she's talking. She's like, do something else. Do my brows.
Monet X Change
My favorite quote from Madonna was from rehearsal. And it was just. There was a scene where someone comes out wearing this coat that she is like a replica of her coat from Frozen. And they put the coat on her, and then she's singing, but they wear, like, this morph suit, so you can't see their face. But in the rehearsal, the guy wasn't wearing a mat.
Trixie Mattel
I remember that. They're, like, wearing her outfits.
Monet X Change
Yeah, no, this was right before that, where she sings. Where she's. Sometimes she sings Frozen. Sometimes she would sing. She would always switch this one song. It was like, three different songs she would sing. One time she sang Rain a few times anyway. But this person comes out with this huge coat, and she's going fan to fan wearing that sparkly Swarovski Versace catsuit with this huge coat with her long hair flowing. And this guy named. This dancer named Donnie. Beautiful, gorgeous man named Donnie was. Was wearing the cat suit, but with no mask on. And during rehearsal, she's like. She's like. She looks at him. She goes. Not to be offensive, but, like, I don't want to see his face. And I said that all the time. Not to be offensive, but, like, I don't want to see his face. I say that all the time.
Trixie Mattel
By the way, somebody who looks like him has probably never heard that movie.
Monet X Change
And he's stunned.
Trixie Mattel
Right?
Monet X Change
Like, I'll show you a picture of him so you can. Should we put the picture on the screen?
Trixie Mattel
I think it's funny. I mean, if you guys have followed, you know, Bob or I or Drag Race or all that, what you don't understand is, like, Bob used to do Vogue as like one of his go to lip sync numbers. So do you go from like doing Vogue at Mickey's or Industries?
Monet X Change
Look how beautiful this man is.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, my God. I would say I'd like to see his face.
Monet X Change
She was like, I don't wanna see his face. Which. But for artistic purposes, it actually did make. Look at how pretty gorge.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, gorgeous. I think I saw him in the video of you dancing to my.
Monet X Change
Yes, yes, yes. He's.
Trixie Mattel
Why do you love that so much?
Monet X Change
I just. You know, what it is, what it was. That is genuinely not bad. Choreo. But you weren't in time with the music and it was just so, like, white guy dancing and, like, living his life. And I thought. I just thought it was so funny.
Trixie Mattel
It's like a jazz run too. It's very stupid.
Monet X Change
It was just so funny. So then I just became obsessed with it. And then I started. I started getting these professional dancers to learn the choreography and they were all like, I want to do it. I want to do it. We did it on stage. On Madonna stage. Shut up. Not during the show, but we did it in rehearsals and people. I love that fucking dance.
Trixie Mattel
You know, other thing you said, I thought you were making fun of me. I always think that you were like. A great poet once said, oh, step into the plate.
Monet X Change
A great poet once said, step into the plate. I'm Trixie Mattel. Got my name in the game, better learn it well, because I'm the MP MVP heading up to bat and I go to third base. But I never tell that.
Trixie Mattel
But I thought you were making fun of me. And then when I heard you rap it, I was like, oh, the problem wasn't the rap, it was the person doing it.
Monet X Change
You're a great lyricist.
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Monet X Change
You know who else is a low key great rapper? And I'm going to go ahead and say. I'm going to say it right now. I'm going to say it. I'm going to go ahead and say it. If she wasn't who she is, I think she could be a contender for a great rapper with her lyrics.
Trixie Mattel
Sherri Lee Lewis.
Monet X Change
Yes. No. Kesha. Hear me out.
Trixie Mattel
You love kesha.
Monet X Change
I love ke$.
Trixie Mattel
What's your favorite Kesha song?
Monet X Change
Blow. I want to go see Kesha on tour. And it's pretty common to cry during a performance at some point during a tour. Some people cry a lot, right? And I think people would assume that at Kesha's show.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, you mean just in general at concerts?
Monet X Change
Yeah, at concert. Like, I'm gonna love this.
Trixie Mattel
I was like, people cry all the time at Kesha.
Monet X Change
So I mean, a lot of people were crying. When she's saying. When she's saying, pray, I hope you somewhat pretty. That's not when I cried. I cried at the encore when she was like, y'all ready for one more? And then she went, dance tears. Isn't that embarrassing? I was crying. Back door cracked.
Trixie Mattel
We don't need a key. We're free.
Monet X Change
No V.I.P. that's so embarrassing. But I was crying.
Trixie Mattel
No, I don't think that's crazy.
Monet X Change
I was so happy for her.
Trixie Mattel
I don't think that that's crazy. I have a hard time crying sometimes at genuine moments, but when it comes to film, I just am a easy. Like, you know when someone's like, has not. Doesn't have sex much. And so if you even bump into them, they come. That's me emotionally, because I don't normally cry, but in a movie I feel safe because it's all fake. So then I cry.
Monet X Change
You'll cry during Wicked one.
Trixie Mattel
I cried during the musical.
Monet X Change
There's just one part of Wicked. Oh, my God. I don't want to spoil it.
Trixie Mattel
Don't spoil it.
Monet X Change
But I'm telling you, you'll know the part. When you see the part, you'll know the part. Not a dry eye. Oh, I'm sitting down and I'm friends With Michaela J. Rodriguez from Pose. We just knew each other from New York City and just being, you know, theater.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, M.J. rodriguez. I never knew what the M.J. was for.
Monet X Change
Okay. Yeah. So we were sitting around, and Jacob went to the bathroom. He said, oh, just so you know, Michaela J. Is to your right. And I just couldn't find her. So I was looking around, I looked to my left, walking toward me. I'm not one of the folks. Like, I don't get. But I don't usually get stars from Sherri Lee Lewis, Cheryl Lee Ralph. Walking. What?
Trixie Mattel
Wait, Cheryl Lee Ralph.
Monet X Change
Cheryl Lee.
Trixie Mattel
That's psychic.
Monet X Change
Walking toward me. I was looking around. I was like. And then my heart started racing. I tell you, I never get starstruck. And it's not because I'm too cool for school. It's just that, I don't know, maybe I have an adrenal disorder. I just don't get. I don't know, Whatever. But she's walking toward me. My heart is, like, racing. I was like, I don't know what. I don't know what to do right now. This is. This is crazy. Sheryl. She looks as good as she did during Dreamgirls.
Trixie Mattel
What did you say now?
Monet X Change
As good as she did during Sister act, as good as she did during anything she's ever been in. And she's walking toward me, and I was like, I don't. I. I. I feel like I. I have to go say something.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah.
Monet X Change
So I walked up to her, and I was like, hey, my name is Bob with drag queen. And I just want you to know that I love you so much. You're so fantastic. And I started bling outside. I'm writing a musical. I don't know why I said that. Wow.
Trixie Mattel
You know what I love about your name? You can. If I said, hi, I'm Trixie Mattel, the drag queen. That sounds insane. But your name is Bob the Drag Queen.
Monet X Change
Bob the Drag Queen.
Trixie Mattel
So it's normal.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
Do you like having your tour buses outside? It's wrapped. Do you like that?
Monet X Change
I love it.
Trixie Mattel
I don't want people to know where I am.
Monet X Change
Our fans are different.
Trixie Mattel
Well, your fans. Yes. Katie. Nice fans on tour.
Monet X Change
Oh, no, you would never.
Trixie Mattel
No, they've gotten on the bus, on Katya's bus. One time, someone. You know about this? Someone just got on and walked on. And she did it so confidently. No one stopped her.
Monet X Change
See, my fans, if I'm like, ah. They'll be like, okay, I get it. But, like, if you. If you go on tour with a rap. You should wrap it like something else so they know what, like rapidly. Like Metallica? Actually, no, they got crazy fans too.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, rap is like a mega rap repel, people.
Monet X Change
There we go. Get it.
Trixie Mattel
There we go.
Monet X Change
Put it on a rap. Like something that no one wanted. Like, like Monet exchange. Yeah. Something would be like, yeah, don't.
Trixie Mattel
What do you think is going to happen to our country? I have a Kazi doesn't like to get political and. And I don't really either. But you're so smart. Like, what do you think is really going to happen?
Monet X Change
I'm not, I'm not that smart. I'm just really opinionated. I think that.
Trixie Mattel
Just loud.
Monet X Change
So what's. I'm very loud. What's going to happen is it is just kind of proven through like any economist worth their weight in nickels that the country does better economically under Democratic leadership. It's just, it's just true. It is what it is. Right. So what's going to happen is Donald Trump's tax law will go out of. Will go out of order. It will be taken off in 2025, which means all these big tax breaks that he was doing, they're going to go out and then Biden's will probably kick in. If he may. I don't know if he may want, but he's going to be done and then he's going to get better and they're going to think it's something that Donald Trump did. The way the economy works is the president from before is really affecting what's going on with the president next. That's how it always happens. And it works that way every single time. Things are going to get a little bit better for a while because of what happened during the Biden administration. And then they're going to say, see, Trump made it better. See what Trump did. And then Trump's going to do his thing and then make it worse again. What do you think? You know, tariffs work. Terrorists, tariffs. So Donald Trump, I was like, terrorists.
Trixie Mattel
I don't know how they work.
Monet X Change
No tariffs. So Donald Trump's like, we're going to Tariffs, tariffs. When I get rid of income tax, we're going to do tariffs. So a tariff is basically a tax that you put on imported goods. So Donald Trump, we're going to make China pay these tariffs.
Trixie Mattel
But that's not how tariffs work.
Monet X Change
That's not how tariffs work. They do not work like that.
Trixie Mattel
Tariffs are the people buying the shit.
Monet X Change
Yes. The people who buy tariffs are actually paying what it is. So when the person. When the company buying from China has to pay more, they're going to turn around and charge you more. So then you will end up paying more because they had to spend more money to get it. Or. Or they will say, I don't want to buy from China anymore. So they'll start buying domestic. And T shirts from the United States cost more. T shirts made in the United States cost more than T shirts made in China because people in America get paid more than people in China. So no matter what, your stuff is going to cost more, it's going to end up costing more. Prices are not going to go down. There's some stuff that we cannot import. We don't grow everything in America. We don't make everything in America. A lot of our wood comes from Canada. A lot of our metal comes from Mexico. A lot of stuff comes from a lot of places. And things are going to go up and it's going to be really messy, really confused. I think that marginalized people are going to come together really strongly right now. We're in complete discord right now. The marginalized community is really at each other's throats because of the Kamala Harris loss. And I think that once we realize that everyone's like, we were all being messy, they're going to get better and they're going to start doing the right thing.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah, it's pretty bleak. I know we have to be positive, but sometimes I'm also like, this is bleak. It's bleak.
Monet X Change
But I'm not moving. I refuse.
Trixie Mattel
I'm not fucking moving either. I'm sorry. I know that. Listen, I know that I'm a rich white man, and my. My level of threat here is not high. Some people's. I'm not moving. And also, I'm not going to stop crossdressing. I don't care how fucking illegal they make it. I really. What I really worry about, Bob, is I worry that drag and YouTube and podcasts and stuff will be blocked. They'll put it down to the state level. And, like, in Kentucky, you won't be able to watch Bald and the Beautiful or Sibling you won't be able to find on YouTube because they'll flag it as porn. You already can't watch porn in these states. Some of these states, like, pornhub does not show up in, like, Sun State.
Monet X Change
What?
Trixie Mattel
Yes, but I think that could happen to drag. And then what? Like, those of us who make money doing this and people work with us and make money with certain parts of.
Monet X Change
The country, there are 40 people behind the camera.
Trixie Mattel
47 people. But also.
Monet X Change
I miss 07. Sorry.
Trixie Mattel
But also, like young gay people where that's their window into, like queer culture as maybe like a pod or something. If they can't access it because they live in a state that says that's pornography, that's indoctrination, that's grooming, then what? Like, they're already removing, you know, all these key terms from like, anything school related.
Monet X Change
Well, Trump just released a video being like, I'm going to ban gender affirming care and gender affirming ideology at any age, at any what critical rate.
Trixie Mattel
We're just gonna. I guess they're just gonna like, take the pages about slavery and just cut it out of the book and.
Monet X Change
No, they will.
Trixie Mattel
No, they, like, are. I'm afraid they're gonna do the same shit with like, if you and I put on a wig. To them that means porn and like grooming. So they're like, no block that. You know what I mean?
Monet X Change
There actually is already a law on the. On the books in Florida where No one under 18 can see a drag show.
Trixie Mattel
When Katie and I did a show there last year, they refused to let the venue wouldn't serve alcohol because Governor Ron DeSantis. Yeah, yeah, Ron DeSantis. Sorry. He called and said that the theater couldn't serve alcohol. So 3,000 people were there for tricks and got your show. And if you were at the show, you know, could not even get a beer because what, we're going to get drunk and freak out and groom kid. Like, you're telling me that everybody at a Kid Rock concert gets drunk and acts not crazy news Blast crazy.
Monet X Change
It's part of the Kid Rock experience. I used to listen to Kid Rock when I was. That's so upsetting.
Trixie Mattel
Well, you were a kid and it was.
Monet X Change
I know. It was rock. Exactly. I mean, I also like the wrestlers who ended up. I used to be a big wrestling fan.
Trixie Mattel
You did?
Monet X Change
Oh, my God.
Trixie Mattel
Did you like Sting?
Monet X Change
No. I mean, I appreciate it.
Trixie Mattel
Staying the gothy one, but I was.
Monet X Change
Really a big fan of Mick Foley, who is a Mankind. Dude Love and Cactus Jack, he plays all the love. Dude Love. Dude Love was this guy who came out with. He was kind of groovy and he wore tie dye and he would dance around and hit people.
Trixie Mattel
Dude Love.
Monet X Change
Oh, I love that he played all those characters. Cactus Jack was like a badass and Mankind was like a deranged mama's boy who was taking out his revenge on the world. And Dude Love was like a Groovy, Fun Guy. All played by Mick Foley.
Trixie Mattel
I remember, obviously. Hulk Hogan. Ric Flair.
Monet X Change
Ric Flair. Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
I remember Sting.
Monet X Change
Sting.
Trixie Mattel
Papa Shango.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
That's about all I remember.
Monet X Change
Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Trixie Mattel
It was, was Andre the Giant part of it.
Monet X Change
Under the Giant.
Trixie Mattel
Okay, I remember them too. Yes. Steve Austin, the Rock. Of course.
Monet X Change
China.
Trixie Mattel
China. Yeah, I guess I do know a lot.
Monet X Change
Rakishi. Deep cut. Sorry, deep cut.
Trixie Mattel
Now you're making them up.
Monet X Change
The Giant. Paul White. The Paul White, The Giant.
Trixie Mattel
How many Giants are there?
Monet X Change
Oh, no, he's the Big Show.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, I remember the Big. Yes, the Big Show. I guess I do know it. That was probably your intro to Drag.
Monet X Change
Low key.
Trixie Mattel
Do you think you would do wrestling if you do it all over?
Monet X Change
I thought I was going to go into wrestling. Like when I was younger. I was like, I'm going to be a commentator or, or one of the managers. Like, I have to, I was like, I have to get into the WWF now. It's wwe. That was like my dream. My dream was to work for the wwe. Like, I was, I was, it was, it was the only thing, the only two times me and my brother ever got into a physical altercation was when he tried to change the channel while watching wrestling. And I was like, I will stone cold stun you.
Trixie Mattel
Damn.
Monet X Change
I will choke slam you.
Trixie Mattel
I would have loved for you to be in wrestling because my dream is to watch you get the shit beat out of you on tv. So this could have been huge.
Monet X Change
Would never happen.
Trixie Mattel
You think somebody the other day said that they think boxing is fake? You think boxing is absolutely punching in the face real?
Monet X Change
I think, I think for the most.
Trixie Mattel
Part, across the board, boxing.
Monet X Change
I think for the most part across the board, boxing is absolutely real. But I do think that there have been times in history where a boxer took money and threw a fight.
Trixie Mattel
What do you think about Mike Tyson gonna fight that Jake Paul fell?
Monet X Change
I have never wanted to see someone beat someone up so bad.
Trixie Mattel
I saw the billboard on Sunset. I was like, like, this is crazy.
Monet X Change
I, I, I have, I. The last time I was excited about a fight was after a fight, and it was when Mike Tyson bit off Evander Holyfield's ear.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah, that was crazy.
Monet X Change
And I remember, I still remember waking up and see, reading the headlines in Phoenix City, Alabama, where I was living at the time, and the headline said, if you can't beat him, eat them. And then one, one headline said, if you can't fight them, bite them. And it was such a huge deal when, when Mike Tyson bit that man's ear off. It was in because Mike Tyson was getting beat up and he got frustrated. He. And he. He just ripped his ear off. And then he still lost the fight.
Trixie Mattel
Was he still allowed to box?
Monet X Change
He was banned for quite a while.
Trixie Mattel
Well, I guess when you're in wrestling, which is very physical, I mean, these people, they're. They're in constant danger. Or. Sorry, boxing. They're in constant danger of death.
Monet X Change
Yeah, for sure.
Trixie Mattel
You just get punched in the head, then could just die.
Monet X Change
Yeah, you could. Yeah, you could. Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
I mean, remember the movie Rocky? Simon Burch. Do you remember Simon Burch?
Monet X Change
What is that?
Trixie Mattel
Okay, it's this movie about this boy, and he. The boy's mom is at the little league game, and a foul ball goes in the air and hits the mom in the temple and she dies. That's not boxing. But I'm just saying it's a slight.
Monet X Change
Blow to the head. There was a film, a very famous film where a boxer punches someone in the head and he dies. Oh, Rocky.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, I've not seen it. I've not seen it. I just watched Pretty Woman.
Monet X Change
Apollo got punched in the head by the Russian. What's the Russian name? Brigitte Nielsen was dating him in the movie.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, I know him from Flavor Flav.
Monet X Change
Yeah, well, Brigitte Nielsen.
Trixie Mattel
Her.
Monet X Change
Is a woman.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah, sorry.
Monet X Change
And she was in the movie, I believe she was dating the Russian, this big Russian guy who was, like, unbeatable. And he punches Apollo so hard that he just dies in the ring. He literally beat him to death, Rocky. And I feel like that was literally what you were looking for, but you were, like, one time, Simon Burch.
Trixie Mattel
The problem is, you have to understand, like, I grew up somewhere so remote that we didn't even have local, like, channels. So the movies we had were whatever, like, vhs. We've. We ripped off of, like, cable.
Monet X Change
Would you ever write a memoir?
Trixie Mattel
Oh, too dark.
Monet X Change
You. You ever listen to one? You know, the darkest memoir? I was like. I was like, I can't finish this. Was it Viola Davis's memoir is. I was literally, like, walking to Runyon Canyon, and I was like, I literally can't listen to this. This is the. This is the saddest story that has ever been told.
Trixie Mattel
Damn.
Monet X Change
Like, it was like, rats and death and fires and abuse. And it was. I was like, I. How? I couldn't even get through it. I'm sure. Obviously, it ends well. Clearly.
Trixie Mattel
Well, I do feel like when people talk about. Especially in la, like, people talk about, like, being poor, I'm always like, that's Such a. I'm like, poor in what way poor? Like, you only had one sibling. Your family could go to private school or poor. And like, I got to a big.
Monet X Change
Thing with Monet, and I don't stand on this anymore because you fighting with Monet because your poor is your poor. But me. But me and Monet just did not grow up the same. We did not grow up in the same. I don't think we grew up in the same tax bracket, quite frankly.
Trixie Mattel
You think she's. You think she's secret rich?
Monet X Change
I've always said the Monet is secret. I've always said this. And everyone in the audience.
Trixie Mattel
Silver spoon.
Monet X Change
The comment always gets mad when I say this. But if you grew up with Disney Channel, you were low key rich. If you grew up with cable. Cable, well, then you have to pay extra money to get Disney Channel.
Trixie Mattel
Can I tell you what poor people love to do, though? And I know this because I came from it. They love to be like, we're not going to the dentist, but we will be splurging on that cable. You know what I mean? Like, sometimes we were not.
Monet X Change
We were not the type. We did not have the money to go, to go watch. To go. You know, we. We. There was no cable. Yeah, I had a few years. I had a few years with cable. There was.
Trixie Mattel
Did you read a memoir?
Monet X Change
No.
Trixie Mattel
I hate typing. Katya and I wrote two books, and this is crazy. This is crazy.
Monet X Change
I got an offer to write a memoir. Ooh, Tracy, any chance you can grab my. It's on the bookshelf in my studio. So I got an offer to write a memoir in 2020. And they were like, hey, we want you to write a memoir. And I was like, you know, honestly, even if I did write a memoir, I don't think that. I actually genuinely think that my most interesting years are just not here yet. Like, I think there's much more interesting stuff to come down the line. And that was in 2020. It's already gotten more interesting since then, quite frankly. And I was like, I think my more interesting stuff is to come. So instead of doing that, I actually want to write this. I want to write a novel. I actually want to write a fiction novel. So I released my book. It's out for pre sale right now.
Trixie Mattel
You wrote a fiction novel?
Monet X Change
I wrote a novel.
Trixie Mattel
Are you lying?
Monet X Change
I am. Tracy's better bring the book in here. I am not.
Trixie Mattel
Well, until she walks in here with.
Monet X Change
The book, I won't believe you. No, I wrote a novel. It's called Harriet Tubman Live in Concert. It is a play about.
Trixie Mattel
No, I. You've talked about doing this as a live play.
Monet X Change
I'm. And I'm still working on the play. It's called Harriet Tubman Live in Concert, and it's about Harriet Tubman coming back to life. And she's continuing her work as an abolitionist through music. And she's writing a hip hop album.
Trixie Mattel
Shut the fuck up. You really wrote this? Harriet Tubman Alive in Concert, a novel. Bob the Drag Queen?
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
Are you lying?
Monet X Change
No. This is not the actual book. This is the COVID I was gonna.
Trixie Mattel
Say I need you to read.
Monet X Change
No, but the book is. If you go to readthedragqueen.com right now. Well, I want them to know that's not the real book.
Trixie Mattel
No, that's not.
Monet X Change
That's not the actual book. No one knows that. But now you're spoiling it. But it's fine. The book is on its way. I don't have an actual copy of the book yet because it hasn't come out yet. But I use this for promotional materials. But it is a real book. You can go to readthedragqueen.com right now. You can pre order. Harriet Tubman Live in Concert, a novel by Bob the Drag Queen. I've written. It took me four years to write this book. Tracy can vouch for me. It took me four years to write this book. I wrote this book myself. I am very proud of it. I already have amazing reviews written from pre sellers who get an opportunity that we send the book out. It is a. It is a real book. I have written this book.
Trixie Mattel
This is crazy. You are nuts. You are really capable of anything.
Monet X Change
I wrote this while doing. We're here. I wrote this while doing the Madonna tour. I wrote this. Yeah. Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
I'm sick of it. The overachieving. And when I'm sick of the overachieving, you know it's bad. Okay.
Monet X Change
Yeah. So go. Go to readtheDrag Queen.com right now and pick up your copy of a Harriet Tubman Live in Concert. And I have a bubble drag queen.
Trixie Mattel
We met. I will let you go in a second. But we met. I met you on Facebook and I came over to. This was like, what, 2015. I had just done Drag Race 2016. I came over to your apartment in New York.
Monet X Change
I think I did in 2016.
Trixie Mattel
It was your apartment with, like the bunk bed. It was like, yep, just drag everywhere on Amsterdam Avenue.
Monet X Change
945Amsterdam Avenue.
Trixie Mattel
Drag everywhere. And there was a little get ready station. And I was getting ready For. I think I had a party with Frankie Sharp.
Monet X Change
I think so. Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
And you had a party. You had your weekly show over at Industry.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
And I was getting in drag with you. And so, like our first time meeting, I went to her house and we got and get dragged together, which was such like a fun, organic way to get to know each other.
Monet X Change
And you also. And also Trixie mailed to my house some roller skates and in your cigar box where you used to sell your own merch. At the. At the season seven premiere, I did.
Trixie Mattel
Violet was up there in her tiara, spinning on like a aerial thing, and I was in the back out of drag, selling my T shirts.
Monet X Change
With your cigar box.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I sold my old merch for a long ass time.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
Because I don't trust people.
Monet X Change
And you. But you trust me enough to mail your stuff to my house.
Trixie Mattel
And trustworthy.
Monet X Change
I have the reputation.
Trixie Mattel
But I remember I was putting the big black eyeliner on and you stopped me. You're like, what kind of Batman are you doing?
Monet X Change
Yeah, I thought you were doing like a thing. I thought you're like, oh, this is gonna be. I'm doing like a. I'm turning a look.
Trixie Mattel
But then I remember you and I were talking and you had your foundation and you were putting it on and you were like, huh, huh, huh? And it was like in movies when they don't watch the road enough. I was like, when is she gonna look in the fucking mirror? You were putting the makeup on, but you were like, never looking in the mirror. I was like, is she gonna look in the mirror?
Monet X Change
I don't. Looking at those pictures, I don't know if there was evidence that I ever looked in the mirror at that time. I think.
Trixie Mattel
What do you think about the discourse of, you know, your makeup journey?
Monet X Change
You know, I think that some people. In my humble opinion, I see the criticism from season eight and it was wild, Bob. It was wild. Okay.
Trixie Mattel
At least I had too much makeup on. You were.
Monet X Change
In my defense, I was wearing enough makeup to win Drag Race.
Trixie Mattel
Absolutely. Absolutely. I had the most makeup on and went home the soonest. So, like, there is no rubric there.
Monet X Change
In my defense. And I was working with what I had. I was using my. I was working within my skillset to make this happen. Right. And then when I just learned more about makeup, traveling with people, getting, I would say tips, but it was really just getting read by Kim Chi, Naomi Smalls, Asia O'Hara. They're just reading me, but they're like. But not in the it ended up helping, obviously.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah.
Monet X Change
You know, bullying. Bullying works.
Trixie Mattel
At least these people bullying those three people. I love fucking all their faces.
Monet X Change
Yeah, they look amazing.
Trixie Mattel
Asia is so beautiful.
Monet X Change
And then I studied at the hands of Emmy award winner Layla McQueen, right? Because she did my makeup for three seasons of We're Here or two and a half seasons of We're Here. But now there are times where I am doing my own makeup. I doing. I do a lot of my makeup. Most, if it's a live show, I'm usually doing my own makeup. And they'll be like, see? I'm so glad that Layla found. That Bob found Layla. I did my fucking makeup this day, God damn it. That was me. I did that one.
Trixie Mattel
I would be afraid of having a makeup artist because I would be afraid that the snatch would be so fierce that then when I do it, people are like, oh.
Monet X Change
I mean, when Layla does me, it is better than what I do myself. She's a much better makeup artist than I am.
Trixie Mattel
She's incredible. She's great. She's so good.
Monet X Change
You see? It's great. She does a really good job, but we can't travel everywhere together. So I do my own makeup, and I've learned a lot from her over the years, and I think I am genuinely stunning. I think a lot of people do not want to acknowledge that I look good these days. It drives me crazy. They're like, well, Bob don't know. I'm like, no, I look good.
Trixie Mattel
No, you look good.
Monet X Change
I fucking look good.
Trixie Mattel
You look good.
Monet X Change
But also some of the fans who are, like, kind of like, really just like, fans of Drag Race and not fans of drag, they still, like. They still think Monet's wearing kitty cat wigs. They still think that they're blown away that you're not doing what you were doing on your season of Drag Race.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, my God. After All Stars 3, I remember somebody ran. D told me somebody ran into her and was like, so, what are you gonna do now? Almost like, she quit drag. And she was like, I'm still doing it.
Monet X Change
Yeah, come.
Trixie Mattel
I don't know what to tell you.
Monet X Change
See me and Jinx on our annual Christmas tour, whatever, you know? Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
Somebody came up to me at a meet and greet very recently, and they came to the meet and greet at my bar in Milwaukee, and they said, you're going to do great things. Things. And I said, can't wait. Can't wait to see what that is. We're in my bar. Right? Got it. I was like, beers.
Monet X Change
Is he gonna do Great things like make me a drink. Let me get barkeep.
Trixie Mattel
Bob, your people are. Well, by the time this comes out, people have an option to see the girls in the UK. How can they see you in the UK?
Monet X Change
Yeah. If you want to go to seethedragqueen.com I'd love to get a goofy art URL. I think they're so funny. You can go to Seethedrag Queen.
Trixie Mattel
Well, don't get wicked.com, honey.
Monet X Change
Or I got it. You can't take that.
Trixie Mattel
Did you see what happened with that?
Monet X Change
No, what happened?
Trixie Mattel
I don't know. I don't want Mattel to be any more mad at me than they probably already are. I'm not a part of it.
Monet X Change
Well, I want to know what happened though.
Trixie Mattel
Well, go to Wicked.com.
Monet X Change
Tell me later. So I used to do this thing where I would go to Broadway show. I never did it. I never did it. But I would go to Broadway shows and I would use my phone. I would Google everyone in the playbill's name dot com. And I was like, what if someone just bought all these names?
Trixie Mattel
They do.
Monet X Change
So many of them actors did not have. I was like, this is free.
Trixie Mattel
They do. When I first got on Drag Race, Trixiemattel.com was owned by somebody else and I flipped out. And one of my friends in Madison was like, I bought it for you a long time ago because I knew you would need it.
Monet X Change
Oh, that's sweet.
Trixie Mattel
Isn't that sweet?
Monet X Change
That's sweet.
Trixie Mattel
Isn't that sweet? But there are companies, I think it's. Rixie on Instagram is an account and I tried to get it from them and they said, well, this account means a lot to me, like sentimentally, which is a lie. And they asked for $60,000. Brat Trixie on Instagram.
Monet X Change
So you didn't take.
Trixie Mattel
No, but I'm at Trixie on like tick tock and YouTube now because I wanted to be at Trixie. $60,000. Exploitation.
Monet X Change
It is exploitation. I. If you notice on Twitter, I am at that one Queen.
Trixie Mattel
That's so funny though.
Monet X Change
Well, that was my name before. That was my name before I. Even when I was kidding with Whip, my name was at that one Queen. And then someone, someone took at Bob the Drag Queen. Someone has it and then I wrote them and they were like, they literally wrote back like, haha, I got your name.
Trixie Mattel
I can't stand people. I fucking can't stand.
Monet X Change
They're like, lol. And then on Twitch, I'm official Bob the Drag Queen because someone has Bob the Drag queen there.
Trixie Mattel
Why are people this way? And if you're a fan, why are you doing this?
Monet X Change
A few webs, a few apps will help you get your name back. Like, like, someone took Bob the Drag Queen on TikTok. And then they were like, if you can just prove that you're Bob a Drag Queen, we'll get rid of that. We'll just take it from the other person.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah.
Monet X Change
So I was like, yeah, I am Bob. I don't know how. I can't remember how. Probably it's me. I swear to God, it's me. So I on. On TikTok, I am at Bob the Drag Queen.
Trixie Mattel
Well, I used to get banned from Grindr for catfishing. And I would have to say, I would have to send an ID picture of myself.
Monet X Change
Literally. They're like. They're like, send me your driver's license.
Trixie Mattel
No. Dead ass.
Monet X Change
Yeah, Grindr has my driver's license information.
Trixie Mattel
Fierce.
Monet X Change
Isn't that wild?
Trixie Mattel
It's wild that you have a license.
Monet X Change
It is. Do you have a license?
Trixie Mattel
I'm trying to get it. I'm trying to get it.
Monet X Change
You don't have a driver's license? What are you trying to get it?
Trixie Mattel
Well, I stopped driving at 25 because I moved to LA.
Monet X Change
You can get a makeup company. You can't get a fucking driver's license.
Trixie Mattel
I gotta go take the test.
Monet X Change
Yeah, that's easier than starting a makeup company. You need to go take the test. You just get out of there and get in the car and you drive.
Trixie Mattel
I. Sadly, I'm better at making blush than I am at driving, so we'll see what happens.
Monet X Change
You don't seem like a good driver, to be honest.
Trixie Mattel
That's so true.
Monet X Change
Yeah, you don't seem like a good driver.
Trixie Mattel
Well, catch. Catch, Bob, before I hit her with the car. And I mean, I don't know.
Monet X Change
Yeah, go to seethedragqueen.com to see me. Let me read out some dates I'm doing in the uk.
Trixie Mattel
Please plug yourself.
Monet X Change
You all can see me on tour in the uk.
Trixie Mattel
Is that the Google?
Monet X Change
Yes, the Pixel. Yeah.
Trixie Mattel
It's so nice.
Monet X Change
It's a good phone. I mean, it's a great videos, like, I like. It's like. You're like a scrap, like Scorsese.
Trixie Mattel
It's nice.
Monet X Change
And I'm not getting paid by them. I mean, I know you and Monet are paying. I'm just so. If you. I don't know why you guys didn't call me. Monet is an avid iPhone user. She bashes Samsung and Money is such a liar.
Trixie Mattel
I hate that money.
Monet X Change
Like, Monet literally bashes androids nonstop on the fucking podcast, and then she gets a fucking deal. And I'm literally like, I'm right here. Isn't that crazy?
Trixie Mattel
Literally so fierce.
Monet X Change
And I did do that Samsung thing at one time. Yeah, that was. But. But I mean, I must have been busy that day. Brussels, Oslo, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Helsinki, Berlin, Zagreb, Amsterdam, Cologne, Hamburg, Paris, Warsaw, Dublin, Belfast, Glasgow, London and Manchester. We added a show in Zagreb because it was like the show sold out so fast. They added a show. One or two shows in God, Zagreb.
Trixie Mattel
Go see Bob. There's a woman in her prime at the height of her current state of her career, and it will get bigger and bigger. But I mean, people got to see you now. I love when people go, oh, I saw you now. And like, you know, people are like, I saw you 10 years ago. Like, we are approaching that point where people are like, oh, I saw your first tour.
Monet X Change
You know what? Someone made fun of me for not deleting my Facebook the other day. And I said, facebook has been archiving my Life for literally 20 years.
Trixie Mattel
Right.
Monet X Change
It might be the most archival. Like, I don't think I've ever been. Well, more well documented because of Facebook. Like, I have pictures of me from my freshman year of college.
Trixie Mattel
Oh, yeah. Like, I'm not gonna go there for my news, but I don't want to get rid of, like, albums I put up when I was in High School.
Monet X Change
20 years. I have pictures from high school. You're not that much younger than me.
Trixie Mattel
How old are you?
Monet X Change
That much younger than me?
Trixie Mattel
I'm 35.
Monet X Change
I'm 38.
Trixie Mattel
Yeah. I mean, I got Facebook in, like, 10th grade because it had just started. High schoolers could get it.
Monet X Change
Yeah, yeah, I remember I was in it when it was like, you had to be in college. You can go to see me. Go see me on my website and get a ticket. Seethedrag queen.com I will be in a town near you. This is honestly probably my funniest show. I hope you're free on the 14th to come see it. If not, I understand, but I will be here in town. I did take time to do your podcast.
Trixie Mattel
Okay, bye.
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Podcast Summary: "Bob the Drag Queen's Dream Deferred with Trixie"
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Overview: In this engaging episode of The Bald and the Beautiful, Trixie Mattel and Monet X Change delve deep into their professional and personal relationships within the drag community, focusing prominently on their connection with Bob the Drag Queen. The conversation traverses various topics, including performances, makeup artistry, social media presence, creative projects, and socio-political issues affecting the LGBTQ+ community. The hosts infuse their discussion with humor, heartfelt anecdotes, and insightful commentary, making the episode a must-listen for fans and newcomers alike.
The episode kicks off with Trixie and Monet reminiscing about how they met Bob the Drag Queen. Trixie recounts, "Bob and I met. I had just done Season seven, and I had known all the drag queens in the world knew about Bob's work" ([19:05]). Monet adds details about their initial interactions, highlighting the organic and supportive nature of their friendship.
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The conversation shifts to their experiences with live performances and tours. Monet discusses her involvement in various Broadway shows, including Wicked, and shares humorous incidents from backstage interactions with RuPaul and other celebrities. Trixie reflects on her own performance challenges and the dynamics of hosting live events.
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A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussions about makeup artistry and personal branding. Monet and Trixie exchange stories about their makeup routines, the evolution of their looks, and the importance of maintaining a distinctive image in the drag scene. Monet reveals her struggle with sebaceous filaments and how she adapts her skincare routine while traveling.
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The hosts delve into their literary endeavors, with Monet unveiling her novel, "Harriet Tubman Live in Concert". She describes it as a fictional tale where Harriet Tubman continues her abolitionist work through music, blending historical narratives with modern artistry. Trixie expresses admiration for Monet's ambition, despite playful skepticism about the book's authenticity within the conversation.
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Trixie and Monet discuss the challenges of maintaining a robust online presence, particularly concerning handle ownership and online security. They share experiences of reclaiming their digital identities, emphasizing the importance of having unique and memorable usernames in the crowded social media landscape.
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The hosts transition to discussing pressing socio-political issues, focusing on economic policies, tariffs, and their impact on marginalized communities. They express concerns about potential censorship of drag content and the broader implications for queer culture. Monet elaborates on the economic effects of tariffs and political instability, while Trixie shares fears about future restrictions on drag performances and online content.
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A lighter segment features nostalgic discussions about wrestling and boxing, with Monet reminiscing about her favorite wrestlers and memorable matches. They also touch upon pop culture references, including classic movies and iconic performances, blending humor with enthusiastic reminiscence.
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As the episode nears its end, Trixie and Monet wrap up by encouraging listeners to engage with their upcoming tours and projects. They emphasize the importance of community support and the enduring impact of their work in the drag scene. The conversation concludes with a mix of humor and heartfelt appreciation for their listeners and collaborators.
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Conclusion: "Bob the Drag Queen's Dream Deferred with Trixie" is a vibrant tapestry of personal stories, professional insights, and candid discussions about the state of the drag community and broader societal issues. Trixie Mattel and Monet X Change excel in balancing humor with depth, providing listeners with an entertaining and thought-provoking experience. Through their dynamic dialogue, they not only celebrate their achievements but also highlight the challenges and aspirations of their community, making this episode a standout in the Bald and the Beautiful series.