Courtney Act is Eminently Keen with Trixie and Katya

Summary

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The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya

Episode: Courtney Act is Eminently Keen with Trixie and Katya
Original Air Date: May 5, 2026
Guest: Courtney Act (Shane Jenek)
Special Appearance: Vanity

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Episode Overview

This episode welcomes the glamorous and multi-talented drag star Courtney Act for a rollicking and revealing chat with Trixie, Katya, and the ever-candid Vanity. The trio dives into everything from drag origin stories and friendship dynamics to industry insights, true-crime moments, and deeply personal journeys through fame, trauma, and healing. Generous with humor, gossip, and real talk, the episode is an effervescent ode to queer resilience, creativity, and friendship in the drag community.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Courtney and Vanity: Evil Twins or Sliding Doors?

[01:32–02:21]

• The opening exchange pokes fun at the “doppelganger” trope, with Vanity declaring they’re "evil twins" and joking about being the "bizarro" version of each other.
  • Quote:

    Vanity: "I'm the evil, dark, ugly version of her. She makes the good choice, I make the bad choice." [02:13]

• They reminisce about meeting as teenagers in Sydney’s drag scene, describing their early looks and affectionately recalling first impressions.

2. Language in Queer Spaces

[04:13–04:39]

• The group laughs over regional slang in queer dating apps, like Aussies’ “are you cane?” (“are you keen?”) versus America’s "horned" and "tusked".
  • Katya: "Are you horned? Like a pig... I’m tusked." [04:34]

3. Celebrity Big Brother: Breaking Barriers

[06:17–08:13]

• Katya and Vanity reflect on the significance of Courtney winning Celebrity Big Brother UK, especially up against a conservative politician known for anti-LGBTQ+ votes.
  • Katya:

    "A drag queen winning a...mainstream competition...network, so inspiring...enough people weren’t like, ‘fuck her, she has a wig on’." [06:44]

  • Courtney:

    "She was like, ‘Shane’s the kind of boy you want your grandson to be. Courtney’s a tart.’ And I was like, yeah, that’s true." [07:27]

4. The Art of “Looksmaxxing” and Drag

[12:41–14:43]

• Courtney discusses her lifelong quest for personal improvement (“looksmaxxing”) and early recognition of beauty in others.
  • Courtney:

    "I invented looks maxing in the 90s." [13:41]

• Trixie and Vanity riff about the power of a haircut and the emotional baggage linked to balding (and shaving choices).

5. Wigs, RuPaul, and Behind-the-Scenes History

[15:53–19:11]

• The trio geek out over synthetic hair, tinsel wigs (Courtney claims to have “invented” them), and helping get RuPaul into Vanity Wigs.
  • Courtney:

    "Matthew Anderson gave me a lock of RuPaul’s hair… we had those copied in our factory… one called Glamazon, the other the shade of RuPaul." [17:56]

• They reflect on moments when RuPaul wore their creations and Courtney’s feelings about not revealing these connections during Drag Race.

6. Reality TV Trauma and Transformation

[27:18–35:18]

• Courtney describes her hesitance and eventual decision to join Celebrity Big Brother, having previously felt traumatized by Drag Race.
  • Courtney:

    "I was so, like, traumatized by Drag Race. And I was like, I don’t think I could put myself through that again. What if I came out the other side and everybody hated me?" [27:46]

• Backstage stories of secrecy and the surreal experience of “coming out a month later a winner.”

7. Big Brother Explained

[30:33–33:12]

• Courtney gives a crash course on the Big Brother format—its 24/7 surveillance, enforced boredom, and "doing nothing" as a social experiment.
  • Vanity:

    "To me, it seems… boring Survivor." [33:01]

  • Courtney:

    "It’s about conversation, which is why I give a gab." [33:09]

8. Drag and Censorship on Social Platforms

[09:35–10:48]

• They discuss inconsistencies in content moderation, noting that violence in film clips is often tolerated, but drag nudity is censored or accounts are threatened with closure.
  • Katya:

    "If I’m shirtless, once I have the wig and lashes on, you have to blur the nipples...YouTube will flag it as ‘female nipple’." [10:34]

9. Drag, Trauma, and Healing via Drag Race Reflections

[55:05–63:48]

• The group shares candid thoughts on Drag Race's editing, the stress and competitive nature of Untucked, and the emotional process of watching old seasons back with new, more mature eyes.
  • Courtney:

    "Watching drag race back 10 years later is like childhood regression therapy....The trauma from the experience is gone." [63:32]

  • Katya:

    "When you realize watching it from so far back now, it’s like, it’s a fun TV show. Why didn’t I have more fun? Why did I kind of ruin it for myself by caring too much in the wrong ways?" [63:55]

10. Queer Friendship and Industry Survival

[46:28–51:37]

• Vanity and Katya joke about their "yin and yang" dynamic, the challenges and advantages of drag World fame, and surviving everything from industry politics to daylight muggings.
• Courtney recounts being mugged and the bizarre gratitude she felt for her attackers wearing sneakers rather than boots.
  • Courtney:

    "I remember laying on the ground with them kicking me in the head. And I remember thinking, I’m glad they’re wearing sneakers and not boots." [50:14]

11. Mean Gays in West Hollywood

[47:08–48:12]

• Discussion of gay community cliques in nightlife, highlighting the difference between public perception and lived experience.
  • Vanity:

    "Yeah, because you're a gorgeous, white famous man." [47:39]

12. Therapy, Inner Child, and High School Wounds

[67:53–69:23]

• Courtney is asked what she’d tell her younger self, opening up about childhood feelings of being unlikeable and processing that in therapy.
  • Courtney:

    "My core trauma is, why don’t you like me? ... In my mind, I’m standing like...looking at all the boys, and I’m asking, like, in my mind, why don’t you like me?" [68:01]

13. Final Moments: Tour Plugs and Drag Performance

[69:53–73:18]

• The closing minutes see Courtney encouraging listeners to come see her live gigs in America, with the trio trading playful advice about lip syncing.
  • Courtney:

    "I want people to buy from me gigs this summer in the United States… I actually love [bar gigs] so much because I don’t have to do them all the time." [69:53]

  • Katya:

    "Give him the Kylie. Give him Xanadu." [70:24]

• Banter about infamous drag venues and the surreal world of drag touring.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Doppelgängers:

  Vanity: "I'm your bizarro doppelganger. You're the healthy version of me." [01:48]

• On Big Brother:

  Katya: "A drag queen winning a like, like, popular competition..." [06:44]
  Courtney: "She was like, ‘Shane's the kind of boy you want your grandson to be. Courtney's a tart.’ And I was like, yeah, that's true." [07:27]

• On Social Media Censorship:

  Katya: "If I’m shirtless, once I have the wig and lashes on, you have to blur the nipples." [10:34]

• On Looksmaxxing:

  Courtney: "I invented looks maxing in the 90s, guys. That’s what I’m saying." [13:46]

• On Therapy and Childhood Wounds:

  Courtney: "My core trauma is, why don’t you like me...in my mind, I’m standing like, all of the same...the boys would sit there at a block, and I’m standing there looking at all of the boys, and I’m asking...why don’t you like me?" [68:01]

• On Queer Career Resilience:

  Vanity: "But like the three of us have been fortunate to like take it and make something else and grow and...have great careers that we love." [65:07]

• On Drag Race Audition Outcomes:

  Katya: "Nothing’s more interesting than what really happens." [61:49]

• Playful Closing Plug:

  Courtney: "Book me. Book me in a game...Play Louisville." [72:14]

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Important Timestamps

• [01:32] – Doppelganger banter and meeting stories
• [04:13] – “Are you cane?”, “Are you horned?”
• [06:17] – Big Brother reminiscences; drag breaking into mainstream
• [09:35] – Social media censorship
• [12:41] – Looksmaxxing, teenage beauty perceptions
• [15:53] – Wigs, hairlines, RuPaul secrets
• [27:18] – Joining (and winning) Celebrity Big Brother
• [30:33] – Explaining Big Brother’s rules
• [46:28] – Friendship dynamics and “evil twin” comparisons
• [55:05] – RuPaul’s Drag Race, Untucked, and trauma
• [63:32] – Watching Drag Race as adulthood regression therapy
• [67:53] – Inner child work and high school loneliness
• [69:53] – Live gig plugs, tips for drag bar shows
• [73:11] – Last jokes and drag inside references

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Tone & Style

The tone is raucous, witty, unfiltered, and affectionate—true to the “Bald and the Beautiful” style. Jokes fly fast, and deep moments are balanced with banter and irreverence. Everything is colored by drag queen humor, camp, and a little pathos.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode is a packed drag queen salon of confessions, critiques, and camaraderie. Courtney Act brings stories of transformation and industry insight, while Trixie, Katya, and Vanity layer in vulnerability, nostalgia, and uproarious drag humor. Whether they’re dissecting wigs, navigating trauma, or plugging shows, their interplay is a testament to queer survival and the enduring power of chosen family.

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Transcript

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[Katya]

But then I was like, vanity, it's funny that you and I are. I think we're so close. I said, because, you know, Katya and Courtney are, like, so close. And I was like, we're kind of. And Vanity said something like, I'm the Katya. And I was like, yeah, kind of.

[Vanity]

Does that mean Scotty? Courtney is Granny. No, it's Trixie. No, that's not. It's not. We're evil twins. I'm your evil twin. I'm your bizarro doppelganger. You're the healthy version of me.

[Courtney Act]

Yes.

[Katya]

That's not true. With that. Who's doppelganging who?

[Vanity]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Katya]

You look like her.

[Vanity]

No.

[Courtney Act]

There's a word for this.

[Vanity]

There's a word.

[Courtney Act]

No. Mary Chapel Ganger.

[Vanity]

Oh, I learned about this.

[Katya]

Chapel Ganger.

[Vanity]

We don't look like I'm the evil, dark, ugly version of her.

[Katya]

That's. That's.

[Vanity]

That's the thing. So she makes the good choice, I make the bad choice. But we're almost exactly the same age, even though we look 10 years apart.

[Katya]

Vanity was over yesterday, and I was like, can I ask you a question about Courtney? She said what? I said, was she always like this? She said, what do you mean? I said, Perfect. And she was like, yeah, kind of. It's a little annoying. I said in. The kicker is she's also a really good person.

[Vanity]

That last part's true. But I have photographic evidence that proves the contrary.

[Courtney Act]

I was not visually perfect or perfect on stage.

[Vanity]

Well, nobody's perfect on stage.

[Courtney Act]

Vanity calls it the Hungry Alley Cat.

[Katya]

She said she turned around and looked down and she said she thought you were a lesbian.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah, I was wearing this, like, when we first met in like the year 2000. Cause she was like, vanity, right? And I was like, yeah.

[Vanity]

How old were you? Slim up?

[Courtney Act]

18.

[Katya]

Oh, my God.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah.

[Vanity]

And it gives crossy, crossy, early crossy vibes.

[Courtney Act]

I would think you looked like Robin right now. I do.

[Vanity]

No, she gave like, you like a

[Katya]

puffer jacket with blonde hair.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah. A big yellow Helen puffer jacket and like, like a green PVC trousers with buffalo boots that had like a 4 inch.

[Vanity]

2000s, right?

[Courtney Act]

2000s. Y2K.

[Vanity]

Y2K. Love the fashion.

[Courtney Act]

And this boy that I knew who was like, friends with the boy that I had a crush on. This is like the first week in Sydney was like, I know, Vanity. I can introduce you if you want. And I was like, oh, my God. And like tapped on her shoulder. It was like in my mind, it was like film noir. It was the second level of Stonewall. The verdict. The Venetian blinds were like spilling light in off the street. She was dressed as. Hit me, baby, one more time. Brittany tapped her on the shoulder and she turned around. She was like, oh, hello, can I help you? And I was like, hi, I'm Shane. Can. Can I buy you a drink? And I was like, trying to fuck her. I was like, networking weird. And I did.

[Katya]

Trying to fuck her.

[Vanity]

And they've been fucking ever since.

[Courtney Act]

Just that once.

[Katya]

Get up all your drink, girl.

[Vanity]

You came. Why do people say that? I'm sorry to finish the video.

[Courtney Act]

It's funny because I feel like I texted you this recently because, like, just one day, everybody on Grindr all of a sudden just started writing a cane question mark. And I was like, you're right. You're actually correct.

[Vanity]

Nobody ever says that word in the continental United States. Not one time ever.

[Courtney Act]

Are you Kane? But we used a lot.

[Vanity]

Do you want to. Are you down?

[Katya]

You know what I also hate? Are you horned?

[Courtney Act]

Not horned.

[Vanity]

Horned.

[Courtney Act]

Horned is weird because I just think that's one.

[Katya]

Are you? I'm not that much. Just at home. Horned.

[Vanity]

Horned.

[Katya]

Like I'm just horned.

[Ad Host 2]

Yeah.

[Vanity]

I don't like that.

[Katya]

Like a pig. The pig is horned. Yeah. I'M Tusk.

[Courtney Act]

I'm Tusk.

[Katya]

Have you seen that movie Tusk?

[Courtney Act]

I did.

[Katya]

What do you think of that movie?

[Vanity]

Watch it.

[Courtney Act]

Is it.

[Katya]

It's very vegan, actually.

[Vanity]

Yeah, you would love it.

[Katya]

This guy is. He had a. A loving kinship with a walrus and the walrus died. And he's a scientist and he kidnaps someone.

[Courtney Act]

Is it a documentary or script?

[Katya]

No, it's a script.

[Vanity]

No, it's very scripted.

[Katya]

And he kidnaps someone and uses surgeries to turn him into a walrus.

[Vanity]

It's. It's just like it sounds. The guy gets cut off the legs,

[Katya]

sharpen the femurs to make Tusk. It's crazy.

[Vanity]

And then there's just unending shots of him going.

[Courtney Act]

Is there a psychosexual element to this?

[Katya]

I think it's sort of implied that he. The wall.

[Courtney Act]

Cuz I find it horned.

[Vanity]

You're tusked. She's very tusky.

[Courtney Act]

I'm fared up right now.

[Katya]

I would say tusky. Are you Tusken?

[Courtney Act]

I've got my legs crossed for a reason.

[Katya]

Tuskin son. Lee Daniels.

[Vanity]

Lee Daniels. Have you seen Lee Daniels the Butler?

[Courtney Act]

No.

[Vanity]

Have you seen Lee Cronin's the Mummy?

[Courtney Act]

No.

[Katya]

Have you seen the Deliverance?

[Courtney Act]

No.

[Katya]

Okay.

[Vanity]

You haven't seen the Deliverance?

[Courtney Act]

I don't think I've seen Bridesmaids.

[Vanity]

No. No, no. Deliverance.

[Katya]

Or isn't it the Deliverance?

[Vanity]

The Deliverance is the one with Glenn Close as the. Okay, because Deliverance is very different.

[Courtney Act]

That's with Glenn Far.

[Vanity]

No, that's. That's with the Getting in the wood Wugs getting graped in the woods by hillbillies.

[Courtney Act]

Right.

[Vanity]

You know that's a famous banjo and that indicates.

[Katya]

I have a question.

[Courtney Act]

Yes?

[Katya]

I was just yesterday thinking we are coming up to some kind of anniversary of you winning Big Brother. Wasn't it about COVID times?

[Vanity]

The bicentennial?

[Courtney Act]

No, it was 2018 and it was January.

[Vanity]

Let's go through all of your.

[Katya]

Do you remember that? I mean, obviously you do, but do you remember that?

[Vanity]

I remember the.

[Courtney Act]

Do I remember what do you remember? Because I was trapped inside a house, so I have no idea what was going on. What made it over to your house?

[Vanity]

I'll tell you.

[Katya]

I was on tour at the time and I remember thinking like, okay, drag queens win drag race all the time. But a drag queen winning a like, like, like popular competition of like all random people mainstream. Liking you or not liking you. Network so inspiring enough people weren't immediately like, fuck her, she has a wig on. You know what I mean?

[Courtney Act]

I mean that would happen now.

[Katya]

And who was that? Your co defendant and something.

[Courtney Act]

And Whit23 almost won parliament.

[Katya]

You're co defendant.

[Vanity]

I don't think.

[Courtney Act]

Co defendant.

[Katya]

You're person you almost. You went against for the win. Yes.

[Courtney Act]

Competitor, colleague. Oh, and Whitaker, in 23 years of parliament, she voted against every single piece of pro LGBT legislation that ever came before her.

[Katya]

So the end of big brother. Love your big brother.

[Vanity]

She hates fags.

[Courtney Act]

She hates fags. But she loved me. She was like, Shane's the kind of boy you want your grandson to be. Courtney's a tart. And I was like, yeah, that's true.

[Vanity]

Damn.

[Katya]

Is tart good? It's a slutty.

[Courtney Act]

She meant it in a bad way. Like tart would be like the highest form of insult that she as a. As a Catholic woman.

[Katya]

Could I just remember you sitting there and you're in like a side tinsel ponytail. So it's Anne. Anne is like green teal. Looks like what she does for a living.

[Courtney Act]

She looks like a 70 year old woman.

[Katya]

Yes. And then across the couch you have. And Courtney, I feel like I have this memory of you like sitting like. Oh, damn. Sitting like this. It's like a side tinsel pony. And the glitter brows. Makeup is Glitter brows.

[Vanity]

Blue glitter brows.

[Katya]

I'm waiting to see who wins. And also, don't you remember when she. The nudity.

[Vanity]

Excuse me, Don't I remember? Do I not have a life size HD 4K print out LaserJet on my wall jacket too? Are you. And then the. Just the clear tape. It was literally concealing your taped up genitals.

[Courtney Act]

Like vacuum packed chicken breast.

[Vanity]

Exactly. It was frozen food section. Really? It was so cunt.

[Ad Host 2]

Literally.

[Courtney Act]

Literally.

[Vanity]

And I was like, that is such a fabulous. This was like one of the stunts before a lot of stunts.

[Katya]

And your posture is like.

[Courtney Act]

It's so.

[Vanity]

It's very vulnerable.

[Katya]

It's very La Bamba. It's like very ballsy.

[Courtney Act]

I'm trying to imagine what. I don't know if I remember the moment. I just remember like stepping off the step. Yeah. And feeling it drop. And I think I was probably like trying to catch it with the crook of my knees.

[Katya]

And what's crazy is they. That picture, the unedited picture was not hard to find.

[Vanity]

No. And I, I photoshopped so many people's faces on.

[Katya]

You can't really see genitals. You just see the UPS store. Like you just see tape and a barcode or something.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah, yeah.

[Vanity]

Like you can't like you can't see

[Katya]

lips or like a. Or something.

[Vanity]

No, but there's flesh.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah, but it's just like an armpit.

[Katya]

It's like.

[Courtney Act]

Or an elbow.

[Katya]

It's a pubis.

[Vanity]

Right, right, right. It's your mom.

[Courtney Act]

But they. That they blurred it because I think the feminine head. It's like this issue that we have when you're on Instagram or. Or YouTube where people are like, it's a lady, but it's a man, and the algorithm doesn't know how.

[Vanity]

No, that's not the picture, honey. I want the one with the face with the expression. But speaking of. So when she posts that up, I have a very serious question about censorship on Instagram.

[Courtney Act]

Because I free the nipple.

[Vanity]

Yes. And also blur. Maybe the scalping. D. Bone Tomahawk. I saw a clip from.

[Katya]

What are you talking about?

[Vanity]

I'll tell you. Bone Tomahawk came up on Instagram. A clip. A prisoner. Kurt Russell's in this movie. I saw a prisoner get scalped, then his dick cut off, then flipped up and hacked in half and pulled apart.

[Courtney Act]

For real or for acting?

[Vanity]

Well, in a movie.

[Courtney Act]

In a movie. Okay.

[Vanity]

But if a movie with Jennifer Aniston's nipples pop out, it will be blocked.

[Courtney Act]

Or Valentina's, famously. Yeah, it'll be deleted to be blood.

[Vanity]

Deleted and blocked. And your account will be closed.

[Katya]

When I'm doing drag. Drag videos in drag. Because I do drag. I. When I'm doing the makeup videos, if I'm shirtless, once I have the wig and the lashes on, you have to blur the nipples.

[Vanity]

I know, but they literally showed him getting.

[Katya]

No, like, YouTube will, like, flag it as, like, female nipple.

[Vanity]

They scalped him, Hacked off his dick.

[Courtney Act]

That's fine, that's fine.

[Vanity]

It was. It was.

[Katya]

Made me puke.

[Vanity]

And I love gore.

[Katya]

Thank you.

[Vanity]

Oh, oh, blur it.

[Katya]

I have a question.

[Courtney Act]

Yes?

[Katya]

What made you want to do Celebrity Big Brother? I'm sorry to make you talk about this. It's so long ago.

[Courtney Act]

That's okay. I didn't. Which is the funny thing, because. Okay. You know, like sliding doors moments.

[Vanity]

I just watched that movie.

[Courtney Act]

So good. I remember getting the call. Cuz I did this dating show on MTV called Single as, and it was like, me, teen mom Farah Abraham.

[Vanity]

No way.

[Courtney Act]

Mani Simpson from Jordy Shaw. Amazing. Jedwood.

[Vanity]

No way. The two of them, who are both

[Courtney Act]

dating women, which came as a shock to everybody, including each other, I think. And we like, we flew around the world, going to different countries, dating people.

[Vanity]

Oh, that's yours.

[Courtney Act]

No.

[Vanity]

Oh, go ahead.

[Katya]

Don't you feel like if Courtney, if your body has Red Bull, it'll just like, disintegrate?

[Vanity]

No, she has the amount of supplements she travels with. You have no idea.

[Katya]

She must have got vitamins.

[Vanity]

Vitamins, vitamins. She's got like. She's like Pat McGrath with the makeup. It's like she travels with 82 suitcase suitcases of vitamins.

[Courtney Act]

And I've also got, like, something that'll cure whatever ails you. Like, if I'm away and I'm traveling,

[Vanity]

I need, like a tincture potion.

[Courtney Act]

Have I got an itchy eye? Is my throat scratchy? Is something going on with my middle ear? How's my anus now?

[Vanity]

Are you on the gray market buying peptides? That's what people want to know.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah.

[Katya]

Are you on extreme peptides.com?

[Courtney Act]

no. But you know what I did choosing whether I want to talk about this.

[Vanity]

We've got to get back to it.

[Courtney Act]

2010, I purchased Milan 2 of the Internet. 2010.

[Vanity]

You gotta bleep that name. We can't give him any airtime. Okay, I'm sorry. It's personal. It's a personal event.

[Katya]

Courtney has been looks maxing for a very long time.

[Courtney Act]

This is called being gay.

[Vanity]

It's just called looking good. It's just called looking your best. Brush your hair, wash your face, put on some clothes that don't look ugly.

[Courtney Act]

I remember looks back saying the females in my school when I was in high school. I like, I for some reason have this vivid memory. It was coming up to the school formal and I was thinking about all the girls getting dressed for the formal. I went with the school captain, the female school captain. And I chose her outfit, obviously.

[Vanity]

And you top modeled her. She bleached her hair. She gave her taxi cut.

[Katya]

Dental work?

[Courtney Act]

No, the swan. The swan.

[Katya]

The swan. Yeah, the Swan.

[Vanity]

We're need 18 months to get you

[Courtney Act]

ready for this, but I remember looking around the classroom and looking at each girl and thinking like, I legitimately remember thinking every single one of these women is beautiful. And like, if they. If there's like a. A process of uncovering, like carving the statue of David from the Rock of Marvel. Yeah, yeah, they're all in there. And I just remember thinking that. And I feel like that was. I invented looks maxing in the 90s, guys. That's what I'm saying.

[Vanity]

I'm so sorry to tell you, Courtney, that looks maxing has existed since the dawn of time, just not with that stupid word to describe it.

[Katya]

You know what the real kicker is? And I say this As a bald person, I think one of my biggest things is when you see somebody who just needs a haircut.

[Courtney Act]

Oh yeah.

[Katya]

When I see the girls with the super long hair, but it's all one length and it's super heavy and it's like your hair is healthy and beautiful. A different haircut, you would look like a shampoo commercial.

[Courtney Act]

A different eyebrow.

[Vanity]

Or when it's time to just shave the head.

[Courtney Act]

There was a girl on it's time to marry.

[Katya]

I follow, I follow this Reddit.

[Vanity]

It's time to shave.

[Katya]

I follow this Reddit for, for balding men where they post a picture of themselves and they say, is it time? Where people say whether or not it's time. And sometimes they are like, you have a couple years. But I'm telling you, 99% of these posts are people who only have hair on the sides like Friar Tuck and it's like one hair on top and they're like, is it time? And like that depends. Are you 50 or 20?

[Vanity]

Yeah. Is it time to look good?

[Courtney Act]

Is it time to look good?

[Katya]

The phobia of being shaved headed bald should not be stronger than the phobia of looking like Patchy McWilliams.

[Vanity]

I couldn't agree more.

[Katya]

Dude, get a unit.

[Vanity]

Get a unit. No, don't or don't get a unit. I love my unit, but I am so constantly perplexed. I mean, I guess people say that. People have told me and I, and I suspect they've told you that you have a not weird looking head. Is that right?

[Katya]

Yeah, people love to say that.

[Vanity]

They love to say that. I have, I have, I have. I know people who are young. Like, not like I'm talking.

[Katya]

She knows people who are young.

[Vanity]

I know people who are in their 20s who are doing com overs, they're doing com. Oversight and they're trying to do magic up there. They're trying to do the Wizarding World of Harry Potter up there.

[Courtney Act]

I feel like the people who have receding hairlines have tricked the rest of the world into styling their hair in a combo. Even if you have a full, thick, luxurious, shiny head of hair.

[Vanity]

Oh, it's diabolical. It's diabolical.

[Courtney Act]

Like there's, there's like hairstyles that. And I'm like, that's a, that's a receding hairline. Cover up hair, dude. No, no, you've got a thick, luxurious

[Vanity]

hairline bald person that is like you are Mr. Burns and you're trying to pull all that shit up there and you're not even it's okay, baby. Shave the head.

[Katya]

Shave the head. Shave the head.

[Courtney Act]

Well, we want to do wigs by vanity. I want to do a range of rugs for gays, like, but, like, fun ones like, like this. Not quite as nice as yours, like, not a human maybe, but like fun synthetic ones that you could. If anybody who has a fade could just, like pin on a piece and have like a fun, fabulous, flirty, like, gray hair, well, then this.

[Vanity]

How much money? What's the price point?

[Courtney Act]

Well, it would be pretty cheap because, I mean, it's not like a glue down. It's not going to be hand knotted. I feel like it'll be like a machine top kind of crown of a wig.

[Katya]

Crush one of crush a mitzy.

[Courtney Act]

50 bucks?

[Vanity]

Yeah, just chop up a few with backstops.

[Katya]

V told me that the Mitzi is coming back.

[Courtney Act]

It is coming back. I'm so excited. The Mitzi.

[Katya]

The Mitzy guys. Ity.

[Vanity]

I. I don't with the mit.

[Katya]

It's like a cone that, like.

[Vanity]

Oh, I know. The Mitzy.

[Katya]

I know, but I. I'm really horny for that Pamela Topper you guys have.

[Courtney Act]

Wait, is that the fringe?

[Katya]

Pam, it's the Topper. It's just like. It's like the Mitzy comb, but it's curls.

[Courtney Act]

Okay, you cannot cover Pamela Anderson.

[Katya]

Yeah. It is your product. Courtney. My God.

[Vanity]

Listen, she's been out of the warehouse

[Courtney Act]

for very back now. I'm working on the floor.

[Vanity]

Just making her way out. She got demoted. No, I got to give it up to vanity for those color mixes because there's no other. Raquel Welch eats Beverly Johnson. Go suck.

[Courtney Act]

She's actually, like, pioneered this. Like, she's actually, like, with the factory, like, developing techniques. Did you know I invented tinsel wigs?

[Katya]

I did know this. I wish you hadn't. Vanity also told me that you are the person responsible for getting Rupaulan vanity wigs.

[Vanity]

Now if we could just get them a little on her head.

[Katya]

I don't know if she wears. Cause now she's been wearing all those white ones.

[Vanity]

She stands in front of them.

[Courtney Act]

I didn't think they're ours. We don't want to take responsibility for those hairlines.

[Katya]

But she. I remember RuPaul would wear the Mattel blonde. Sometimes the yellow. It looks so good.

[Courtney Act]

Well, Matthew Anderson gave me a lock of RuPaul's hair. This is before I was on Drag Race, because I said I was at a 613. He was like, no, Ru can't wear 613 because it washes her out. She needs that really yellow color.

[Vanity]

Yeah.

[Courtney Act]

And so he gave me a lock of two of her wigs from 90s and we had those copied in in our factory. And one of them is called the Glamazon and the other is called the shade of RuPaul.

[Katya]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Vanity]

Yellow Raymond.

[Katya]

Also. She also looks good in that. She wore that red from you guys sometimes.

[Vanity]

If you look at Season 7. If you rewatch Season 7, All Hair by Matthew. Her every episode. Her hair is.

[Katya]

It's amazing. It's.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah.

[Katya]

We rewatched season seven last year. Yeah. In the hairography and it's just so beyond.

[Vanity]

She's the makeup too. She's stunning. But vanities color. The best blonde ever. The. The. The ash. The cool blonde.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Vanity]

And the mixes are so.

[Courtney Act]

And the Miss Australia. Because the fiber is actually dyed.

[Vanity]

Yeah.

[Courtney Act]

Because like, I remember in the beginning, the rooted. The first rooted one, which Ru wore on season six. I came out for the get out of here.

[Vanity]

The, The.

[Courtney Act]

The scary challenge in like week three, whatever it was called Drag Race me to Hell. And I walked out and I was like, RuPaul is wearing the black and gray and. LOL.

[Vanity]

Was it the black and gray?

[Courtney Act]

The white with the really dark room.

[Katya]

That is so surreal.

[Courtney Act]

And I couldn't tell anyone. I didn't even tell Bianca.

[Katya]

I was like, I would have screamed it.

[Courtney Act]

I can't tell anybody that RuPaul is wearing my wig and I'm like the stage looking at. No, I just kept it to myself. Cuz I was like, I don't want. I felt like that would.

[Vanity]

Oh, how the sausage is made.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah.

[Vanity]

Or like, I know those shoes.

[Courtney Act]

Like I'm currying favor. Or like I'm like, I'm. I don't know.

[Vanity]

I know what you mean.

[Courtney Act]

I have a handicap. But like in golf, not.

[Katya]

I don't think anybody thinks RuPaul's currying favor for you.

[Vanity]

And you're definitely not anymore. That's. It's. Let's lock it here.

[Courtney Act]

Maybe that was the sliding door. That was the moment everything changed. I should have been like, you're wearing my wig.

[Vanity]

And then she. She would be here right now with you instead of us.

[Katya]

Right.

[Courtney Act]

And I'd be bald, and you'd be bald.

[Katya]

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[Courtney Act]

by Beatrice, the dating show Teen Mom.

[Katya]

Okay, and then I want to go back to season six.

[Courtney Act]

Oh, yeah, okay, but Jedward. So then one of the girls on that Marnie from Geordie Shore, she was like, you should do celebrity Big Brother. You'd be great. And I was like, girl, nobody knows.

[Vanity]

Is Jordy Shore the precursor to Jersey Shore?

[Courtney Act]

I don't know if it's pre or like tangential or spin off.

[Katya]

It's like the Swedish Chef.

[Vanity]

Jersey Shore, Geordie Shore, Jordy Shore.

[Courtney Act]

They don't talk like Swedish chefs. And Geordie Shore.

[Katya]

Where is Jordy?

[Courtney Act]

It's Newcastle, mama.

[Vanity]

It's ass up by 7pm oh, it's a UK show.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah, Newcastle, Newcastle.

[Katya]

I didn't know.

[Vanity]

But you know. Newcastle I know, but Jersey Shores in America.

[Katya]

I thought maybe it was like similar area. I don't know.

[Courtney Act]

I was actually just thinking about this yesterday. How did they get two places called something.

[Katya]

Sure.

[Courtney Act]

That were like Geordie and Jersey. They're like such similar words. Oh.

[Katya]

Oh, Geo.

[Vanity]

Yeah.

[Courtney Act]

These people from Newcastle are called Geordies.

[Vanity]

It's trash.

[Courtney Act]

That's a Geordie accent. Yeah, that's. That's a very.

[Vanity]

I keep doing a York. I try to do a Yorkshire accent. When it's Joy, it's very different. But Mary, it is. It is turned up in Miss Newcastle. She gets the party.

[Courtney Act]

That was the first.

[Katya]

You guys know I've been to Newcastle.

[Vanity]

You know what I'm talking about then.

[Katya]

Okay. Yes.

[Vanity]

You agree it's crazy.

[Courtney Act]

It is crazy. Like it has different.

[Katya]

Like maybe I didn't have the experience.

[Courtney Act]

You guys.

[Vanity]

In the air party vibe is. Is turned up to.

[Courtney Act]

I saw two women at like 9:30. Like drunker than vanity.

[Vanity]

Yes.

[Courtney Act]

Wearing. Holding their high heels.

[Katya]

Paralytic drunk.

[Courtney Act]

Paralytic drunk.

[Vanity]

Drops in freezing cold weather.

[Courtney Act]

Freezing cold weather. With McDonald's bags as shoes with hair ties wrapped around to like hold the McDonald's bags as they like.

[Katya]

As if that compares to when I was in Brisbane and saw kids huffing glue at the McDonald's.

[Vanity]

Oh, that's different.

[Katya]

And everyone in Brisbane was like, yeah. Like, nobody was like, no. They were like, yeah, that's brizzy.

[Vanity]

This is like pre gaming is not even. It's just always a game in Newcastle. There's no pregame. It's like ass up.

[Courtney Act]

You get ready. You don't have to stay ready.

[Vanity]

Basically the gutter. 6pm sun hasn't gone down. That's Jordy. That's like crazy.

[Courtney Act]

So a girl from Jordy Shaw was like, you'd be great on Celebrity Big Brother.

[Katya]

You.

[Courtney Act]

You know, my superpower is getting back to the. Yeah. Back to the plot. People were very like alarmed and outraged the first time when you were away and I was with Ktia and people were like, how did Courtney like cycle back like seven tangents and bring us back to the plot and finish the story? And I said to this girl, Marnie, I'm like, people don't know who I am. People don't. People aren't going to care about who I'm going to be on Celebrity Big Brother in the uk. But it had just gone on Netflix in the UK and every. Cause that was in the time when people still had to illegally download Drag Race to watch it. So I went on Celebrity Big Brother, which felt like a real Level jump. And I remember at the time, look, I've healed my drag race trauma. I actually am extremely grateful for all of it, obviously. And I love RuPaul and, like, all of the.

[Vanity]

Anyway, less ISIS video, more authentic next time. I'm just kidding.

[Katya]

No, we. We feel that. We feel all the same way.

[Courtney Act]

We love.

[Katya]

We love dragons. We love RuPaul.

[Courtney Act]

I've healed it all, and it's. It's a nice Instagram. Heals the world and destroys it at the same time. It's like you and me.

[Katya]

What?

[Courtney Act]

No, I like yin and yang.

[Katya]

So go.

[Vanity]

Sorry. Go ahead.

[Katya]

How did you get the job?

[Courtney Act]

They.

[Katya]

Why won't you tell me? Like, the way I keep asking how you got on Big Brother. Who's there?

[Courtney Act]

The interrupting sheep?

[Katya]

The interrupt.

[Courtney Act]

So the. Marnie was like, you should talk to my agent. And then her agent, like, pitched me, and I got the job, and I. Pardon?

[Vanity]

Marnie the designer?

[Courtney Act]

No, Marnie from Georgie.

[Katya]

The story I waited for. Her agent pitched it, and they said

[Courtney Act]

yes, but you're all ourself. I was gonna say no.

[Katya]

God, I'm here.

[Courtney Act]

I legitimately was gonna say no. I remember talking about it with Wendy, my manager, because I was so, like, like, traumatized by Drag Race.

[Katya]

Oh, yeah.

[Courtney Act]

And I was like, I don't think I could put myself through that again. What if I came out the other side and everybody hated me? Like, I don't know. I'm gonna say no. Then I said no, and then obviously said yes and told not a single soul. I was on tour with Willam and Alaska. We were performing at G A Y New Year's Eve, like, the night before AAA girls didn't say a word to them. Yeah, now that's a secret kid for a baby. We were at Tom Daly's house, like, the sun is coming up, party going on, and didn't say a word to anybody.

[Katya]

Willem would tweet it, and Alaska would be jealous. She'd kill herself.

[Vanity]

High five on that. Secret keeping. That is some top. That should be a mission impossible.

[Katya]

It's almost easier to tell no one because, like, one person is worse at that point.

[Vanity]

Tell no one a hundred percent. One person means one person means 12.

[Courtney Act]

Yes.

[Vanity]

And then it's just logarithmic after that.

[Courtney Act]

Interestingly, the night before I went in the. I did tell people Bianca the day before, because they were like, she could give a. They might want somebody to like, after

[Katya]

show she has no one in her life.

[Courtney Act]

Well, she gets a text message from Michelle Visage, because, remember, Michelle Visage was obsessed With.

[Katya]

She's in the Big Brother mafia.

[Courtney Act]

Yes. She was on before me. She went fifth.

[Vanity]

I was going to say she must.

[Katya]

Oh, yeah. She was like top five or something.

[Courtney Act]

And she. Because even the year before, Bianca had been asked to go and do the after show and she was, She's. She was quite territorial about the thing. And so then she, I think, found out from production that I was on and had texted Bianca like, what's this about Courtney being on Big Brother? And she was like, I don't know, girl. I haven't heard anything. And then went into the house, came out a month later a winner.

[Katya]

Baby, it was so exciting when you won.

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[Vanity]

I'm not. I wasn't surprised. I mean, I don't know anything about the show, but you're a winner.

[Courtney Act]

Michelle.

[Katya]

Michelle told me it was really, really hard. Did you find it, like, mentally taxing?

[Courtney Act]

You know what? I loved every second until I went into that house and I became one of the boys. Like one of the straight boys. I would be outside in the smoking area until the dawn chorus started drinking with the straight man. No, it was just the three. Three straight. Three, three straight.

[Katya]

Anybody?

[Courtney Act]

No, but I did have a bromance and then I had a foil in Anne and so I had that, like, perfect balance, apparently from the outside.

[Vanity]

And then tell me in a nutshell for someone who doesn't. I don't watch any of these shows. And I, and I, I, I don't understand what you do. And I, and I, I don't research it. I should do that.

[Katya]

It's whoever, whoever's the biggest brother is the winner, honestly.

[Vanity]

So if you are the largest, have

[Katya]

the most siblings you pick, it's who

[Courtney Act]

puts on the most weight throughout the season. Okay.

[Katya]

Courtney, an only child of £90, won. She won.

[Vanity]

But no but, like, can you, can you tell me in three sentences, like, pitch the show to me.

[Courtney Act]

You're in a house.

[Vanity]

Like, try to get me on it.

[Courtney Act]

Okay. So you're living in a house together. There's 12 people that you don't know.

[Vanity]

That sounds like a good night.

[Courtney Act]

You do not invite day long. No, I'm just watching, talking to people. You do nothing. You, like, buy groceries and you just, like, have conversations. And because it's 24 hours in a day and people get bored. Happens. They do have challenges that they can't watch tv. No tv.

[Katya]

Can't listen to music.

[Vanity]

You cannot listen to music?

[Courtney Act]

No, because they're recording 24 hour.

[Katya]

And some people pay premium.

[Vanity]

Your headphone, headphones don't.

[Katya]

Some people Pay premium to basically watch 24 hours a day.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah.

[Katya]

The cameras are on all day.

[Courtney Act]

You're not even allowed to take a

[Vanity]

pen of the pee hole.

[Courtney Act]

The only place there's no camera is in the bathroom. And they do have microphones.

[Katya]

Do you know about that horror movie about the zombie outbreak? During a show like that? There's a horror movie about there's a zombie outbreak. It's about the cast of a show like that. And the outbreak happens outside the walls.

[Courtney Act]

Yes. Actually, I think I've seen it. And we thought. Cause there was one night they do live shows twice a week and it was a Friday night and there was no live show. And we all thought that Queen Elizabeth had died because there's a rule with the BBC where you're not allowed to broadcast any new whatever when she dies

[Katya]

during Queen of the Universe.

[Vanity]

But she was only the Queen of England. She was.

[Katya]

Graham Norton told us.

[Vanity]

Oh, wow.

[Katya]

Oh, I don't know if I'm supposed to do that, but Graham Norton got the tea before the news.

[Courtney Act]

I think it was like, here's the tea. It was from Charles.

[Katya]

Yeah, but thanks. When we were filming, they said, we're not going to tell the audience because we were filming in London.

[Courtney Act]

It'll be such a downer.

[Katya]

Yeah. And the artists are getting ready to do their show.

[Vanity]

You know what I mean? Oh, it was like. It'd be like. That was a great performance.

[Courtney Act]

Despite Queen Elizabeth's death, grad Queen is performing on Thursday night in Los Angeles.

[Vanity]

Brazilian.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah. She was on Queen of the Universe.

[Katya]

She is incredible. She won season one. She won a million.

[Courtney Act]

Wait, a million dollars?

[Katya]

$250,000.

[Courtney Act]

Pounds.

[Vanity]

Pounds.

[Katya]

But she told me, she told us that the conversion rate to Brazil, it was like a lot of money.

[Courtney Act]

Oh, wait, she wanted Brazilian dollars.

[Katya]

Yes.

[Vanity]

That's a lot of money in Brazil.

[Courtney Act]

Imagine a Brazilian dollars.

[Katya]

You're kind.

[Vanity]

She's a Brazilian heir.

[Katya]

She's such a good singer.

[Courtney Act]

She's such a good singer.

[Katya]

My God.

[Courtney Act]

I messaged her and you're away, aren't you? Are you here Thursday? Yeah.

[Katya]

I don't know. Oh, we have a show.

[Vanity]

Yeah, we have a gig.

[Katya]

We're out of town.

[Courtney Act]

I love a college.

[Vanity]

So now that you've explained it horribly. We're not going to explain it. Well, it sounds horrible. Can you try to pitch it to me like you're my agent?

[Courtney Act]

I don't know if I can. I mean, the original setup is that it was a social experiment to watch what happens when it's.

[Vanity]

But there's so many Seasons of it now, to me, it seems it says boring Survivor.

[Katya]

So the. But the. The audience. The audience watching indoor vocal, it's about

[Courtney Act]

conversation, which is why I give a gab.

[Vanity]

Yeah, you would do very well. I would go out of my mind without listening to music. I would. I would go out of my mind.

[Courtney Act]

You know what was interesting? I. I enjoyed the whole. Whole thing. Had these boys who I was, like, mates with, and then, like a week before the end, they all got voted off. And then I was left with Anne, Amanda Barry, who's an older lesbian actress, and another older man, Wayne Sleep, who's a gay man, who's a ballerina, like in the Royal Ballet. And the three of them were all of a similar age. And the two gays ended up turning on me, of course, and siding with Anne, the person who had voted against all of their rights throughout their entire lives. And it was like this weird thing.

[Vanity]

Threatened by your perfect glossy skin.

[Courtney Act]

Amanda came into the bathroom once. I'm, like, sitting there doing my makeup, and she was, like, drunk and, like, you need to stop, like, coming for Anne, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, I literally have done nothing but have nice conversations with her about her voting record. And then she was. She stormed out of the room. She turned around, she was like. And another thing, I worked with Danny Larue, and I know that drag queens aren't sloppy. That skirt falling off on the way in, that was a setup. And I was like. And then she, like, stormed out and I was like, that's beer.

[Vanity]

She was right.

[Katya]

Don't you think if it was a setup, you would have had panties on or panties?

[Vanity]

Oh, I thought it was a stunt.

[Courtney Act]

No.

[Katya]

Also, I can't believe you thought that was real.

[Courtney Act]

I had it made the night before I went in.

[Vanity]

That's no excuse.

[Courtney Act]

I had a top.

[Katya]

It looked safety pinned.

[Courtney Act]

It was pop studs.

[Katya]

Thank you. That's what I'm saying. I can't believe you thought you. I can't believe you were surprised it fell off.

[Vanity]

I thought it was a planned stunt.

[Katya]

It was like that paillette fabric, right? It was like, really? It's like super sequins.

[Vanity]

Yeah.

[Courtney Act]

I had this amazing outfit that Howie made that was three pieces. It was like a jacket, a top, and shorts. And it was my favorite out of all the outfits I was taking in, but I was like, you can't go in in shorts. You have to wear a gown. And so I messaged my stylist Frank, and he found a piece of the exact same fabric. It was like, that was the whole scrap of fabric that he bought and, like, turned into a scarf. A couple of pop studs on it, and that was it.

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[Vanity]

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[Vanity]

oh, by the way, I have some cute outfits of yours in my house.

[Courtney Act]

Oh, fun.

[Vanity]

Yeah.

[Courtney Act]

Is there something that's blue?

[Vanity]

Yes, yes. It's jacket pants. Yeah, I've tried it on several times. I wear the same size, except I'm apparently 50 pounds heavier than you.

[Courtney Act]

Well, now I have to extend everything in the back.

[Vanity]

Oh, did you not.

[Katya]

How did you. How did you find out when Katya shit in your bed?

[Courtney Act]

She told me.

[Vanity]

Thank you. Honesty's the best policy.

[Katya]

I've only heard her side of it.

[Courtney Act]

Oh, maybe Milk. Was Milk staying there at the time? No, Mitch was there.

[Katya]

Oh, this is. This is when Jennifer too.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah, down the street.

[Vanity]

Listen, that she. I gave her. I gave her the gift of an idea.

[Katya]

She had a Viking funeral.

[Courtney Act]

Could you just imagine though, if you're like going to the. The trash.

[Vanity]

Imagine my mom.

[Courtney Act]

The dumpster in a building and you're in. You're in la. Anything can happen. And this is like a dismembered corpse.

[Vanity]

No, Imagine my mom having. Imagine my mother. Yes, my mother.

[Courtney Act]

Mother.

[Vanity]

Mother. Mommy. Lee Cronin's my mother. Having to carry or not having to carrying a box.

[Katya]

Getting to.

[Vanity]

Getting to carry a fortune. A box that said mega. 25 pounds of and ass. Her gay son, crackhead. Blah, blah, blah. It's just amazing.

[Katya]

I was like, so she does like women. He just likes women with no heads, no arms and no legs.

[Courtney Act]

It's very incel. Adjacent. Like. No, it's not like I like women, but I just like them to be dismembered.

[Vanity]

No, I have an appreciation for torsos.

[Courtney Act]

Why did you buy that?

[Katya]

You know, I get a kick out of the. In porn, when they're fucking the toy that looks like a miniature woman's butt.

[Vanity]

Oh, I have like.

[Katya]

With a little tiniest pair of tits.

[Vanity]

I have one of those.

[Katya]

No, it's the tiniest pair of tits with a tiny butt. And the fucking. I was like, that is Cornish.

[Vanity]

I haven't seen those. That's crazy. Well, there's a whole.

[Katya]

And it's like little Barbie pussy that stretches.

[Vanity]

There's a whole. Oh, my God. So there's this genre of pussy porn. It's okay.

[Katya]

C C Diff.

[Courtney Act]

No, no, no, no, no porn.

[Vanity]

Cfnm. What do you think it stands for?

[Courtney Act]

Country Men's.

[Vanity]

No, no. Clothed female. Naked male.

[Katya]

Oh.

[Vanity]

And then, and then. And adjacent to that is like miniatures. So like, like miniature women or miniature guys.

[Courtney Act]

Like actual humans who are literally.

[Vanity]

No, it's all like animated or whatever. Like computer porn or whatever. But it's, it's very woke to be

[Katya]

like, I'll watch the porn if the

[Vanity]

women could keep their clothes on. No, but it's, But I, I, I stumbled upon it because I don't like hardcore.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah.

[Vanity]

Porn. I like, I mean, I like like Cinemax.

[Courtney Act]

I want to see them making love.

[Vanity]

Let's take a break off.

[Katya]

I want to see them making love.

[Vanity]

No, but it's like, I love gauzy. I don't want to see J.

[Courtney Act]

You know, I mean, film noir.

[Vanity]

But this. Yeah, Like, I want lighting, but there's this, it goes like this, like, it's like two women. It's like humiliation adjacent to it gets into that. But like, two women will be clothed and like, they're like, call a guy into the office and then they say he's naked. And he, he'd be like, can I please put my clothes on? And they're like, no. Oh, interesting power.

[Katya]

Oh, it's like a shame thing.

[Vanity]

Yeah, yeah. Clothed female, naked male.

[Courtney Act]

Have you heard of Sissy Hypnoponia?

[Vanity]

Of course.

[Katya]

That queen from Newcastle.

[Vanity]

Sissy Hypno porn Majority Shore queen.

[Courtney Act]

One of my loves from the Geordie

[Vanity]

Show, Jen, is Dick in your son. She's from Newcastle.

[Courtney Act]

Dick and your son.

[Vanity]

I think she might be from Newcastle.

[Courtney Act]

Sarah Jessica car park is another Minivan driver. Minivan driver.

[Katya]

Minivan driver. There was a Toyota Corolla, but she died.

[Vanity]

But Toyota's not a real name.

[Courtney Act]

It kind of is.

[Vanity]

It's not.

[Courtney Act]

Is Beyonce. Yeah, it's her real name. She made it. I mean, Courtney's like, there's only one. I feel like there's one woman on the planet called Beyonce. At the time, Beyonce was named Beyonce Knowles. Do you.

[Katya]

Do you think anybody else is named Beyonce now?

[Courtney Act]

There is I.

[Katya]

People imagine being some kid named Beyonce.

[Vanity]

Well, there was.

[Katya]

Oh, so you think you're Beyonce? Like, it's that.

[Vanity]

You know what I mean? There was. Who was it, fam? There were other.

[Katya]

Can I say I, I, I know nothing's original. I don't know why in Caucasian culture we don't make. Why we all have five names.

[Courtney Act]

Oh, hang on.

[Katya]

Oh, I love Brian.

[Vanity]

No, see, I love that, though. I like, I like Russian style.

[Courtney Act]

Sunday roast. I'm Shame.

[Katya]

I like the.

[Vanity]

I like the Russian style. There's 12 names.

[Courtney Act]

Like, what's your name?

[Katya]

What's your name?

[Courtney Act]

Is your name Shane?

[Vanity]

No, I like it, I like. The Russians do it. Like 12 names.

[Katya]

RuPaul. RuPaul's like, mom made up RuPaul.

[Vanity]

Yeah.

[Katya]

Why aren't our moms.

[Vanity]

No, they are, but they're McNavy in McDonald's. In McBraylon, they're spelled B, R, A, G, H, L, E, E. I. I

[Courtney Act]

love a meet and greet. When you, like, you're like, her name's like Melanie. How do you spell that? Q, lmp, Triple I.

[Vanity]

All the consonants are silent.

[Katya]

Ireland. Those traditional Irish spellings of names.

[Vanity]

Or Welsh.

[Courtney Act]

So good. Yeah, I love learning how to spelling them, and then I love learning how to spell them and then when they say their name, just spelling it correctly and them just being gay.

[Vanity]

Oh, yeah.

[Courtney Act]

I learned how to spell like three or four of the, like the, the

[Katya]

weird, the really weird Irish. I don't mean to be weird. The, the Irish ones. It's the spelling you have if unless you're from Ireland, there is no way you're going to know how they're spelling

[Vanity]

these names or pronounced at all. I mean, Irish is so gay. Irish is so, so different. But, but, but wait.

[Katya]

So are your parents ashamed of you?

[Courtney Act]

No, I have the most lovely, supportive parents.

[Vanity]

So how long have your parents hated

[Katya]

Courtney's pivot is my family's so loving.

[Vanity]

I need to reiterate this to you because this is, this is a not. This is A common theme of this, every time we do get together, it is literally like the yin. What did you describe it? It's the bizarro version.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah.

[Vanity]

So, like, it's not.

[Katya]

Everything had gone right.

[Vanity]

Yeah. Yes. Gone right, Gone wrong. She makes good. It's sliding doors.

[Courtney Act]

Sliding doors?

[Vanity]

Yeah. We're both Gwyneth Paltrow. She gets the pixie cut. She. I keep the brown hair, but, like. And she comes over sometimes with her three suitcases full of vitamins and. Wait, did you get into the peptides? You were the originator.

[Courtney Act]

I. I did the Milana Tan 2 in 2010.

[Katya]

Did you get a boner? Did you throw up?

[Courtney Act]

Yeah.

[Vanity]

Is it.

[Courtney Act]

I wrote because I wrote Mean Gays. My song Mean Gays, which came out in 2014, got played last night on Australian music video television for the first time.

[Vanity]

West Hollywood.

[Courtney Act]

They're the mean, mean, gay.

[Vanity]

We had this conversation at Ice Cream last night with two of our. My gay friends. We're talking about mean gays. And weho. And I don't like it.

[Katya]

They're mean.

[Vanity]

No, but there are a lot of.

[Courtney Act]

I mean, the song was written in 2014. You're only catching up now.

[Vanity]

No, no, no, I know, I know. I don't go there very often, and I don't. People aren't mean to me if they recognize me from the show. Otherwise if they don't, they just push me over or run right through me.

[Courtney Act]

Well, I remember saying I'm like that dumb person who's like, oh, no, everybody's nice to me.

[Vanity]

Yeah, because you're a gorgeous, white famous man.

[Courtney Act]

And then somebody was like, watch how they treat somebody else. And I remember sitting in the smoking area and this girl asking one of them for a lighter, and he was just like, get out here, you fat. I just set her on fire and burned her to the ground. I was like, oh, my God, you're right. And then the ambulance came and they run over her.

[Vanity]

It's crazy.

[Courtney Act]

I never. I'd honestly never. I'm like, that dumb. Like, everybody's nice to me.

[Vanity]

Yeah, because you're Barbie. Yeah, that's like.

[Katya]

Like, Fina will be like, I hate that. And I'll be like, she's nice. And fin. Like, she's nice to you.

[Courtney Act]

To you.

[Vanity]

I'm like, yes.

[Katya]

Wow. Yeah.

[Vanity]

And then. So when. At what point did you. Well, maybe the tr. You had this. But when did you realize that people were being nice to you because they wanted something from you? Whether that's a picture or money or whatever.

[Katya]

Sex.

[Courtney Act]

I mean, in 2010, people want to

[Vanity]

have sex with her.

[Katya]

I think a lot of people do.

[Vanity]

They do.

[Courtney Act]

In 2010, when I moved here was when that. When I realized that.

[Vanity]

How could you develop a sixth sense?

[Courtney Act]

No, because I just think, like, if I'm having a good experience that I don't. I don't care. Like, I can tell if somebody's like,

[Vanity]

have you been robbed?

[Courtney Act]

Something.

[Katya]

We love good experiences.

[Courtney Act]

I love good experiences.

[Katya]

They just so rarely happen to us.

[Courtney Act]

I've been robbed. I've been robbed in my house twice and on the street once.

[Vanity]

I've only stayed with you once. You've been. No, this.

[Courtney Act]

I've been mugged.

[Vanity]

Were you hurt?

[Courtney Act]

It was like a little bit of blood.

[Katya]

Emotionally?

[Courtney Act]

It was like a little bit of blood. 3 or 4 large.

[Vanity]

Describe in detail the experience.

[Courtney Act]

It was too.

[Katya]

I've been fully mugged.

[Courtney Act]

You're fully mugged right now.

[Vanity]

Girl that looks maxer is out mogging you. Oh, my God.

[Katya]

Does someone say mug?

[Courtney Act]

It was 2010. I had, like, a Nokia monophonic phone. Vanity was doing Nokia. Nokia, you call it here. Vanity was doing turn back timeshare at slide. And she had forgotten she's selling top shares. And I went back to her house to get the bobby pins. And I was walking up with your

[Vanity]

phone, which is this big.

[Courtney Act]

It was like, that big. And it had to use, like, Vanity

[Katya]

sending you home for a bobby pin. Yeah, Go find the unpublished Harry Potter book.

[Courtney Act]

It's so crazy.

[Katya]

Like, she can't find a bobby pin from somewhere else.

[Courtney Act]

Well, we're at the club.

[Katya]

I need you to go to my house, get on the train, ride 40 minutes over.

[Courtney Act]

It was walking distance, to be fair. Okay, good. And I was walking up the hill, like, minding my own business, texting on my phone. And three men came out of a dark alley, like, the ne. I just. I was on the ground. That was the first thing I knew.

[Katya]

With your legs in the air.

[Courtney Act]

Maybe this is how. Like, I've encapsulated trauma, but I. And I'm not trying to sound dramatic, but I remember being. I remember laying on the ground with them kicking me in the head.

[Katya]

Oh, my God.

[Courtney Act]

And I remember thinking, I'm glad they're wearing sneakers and not boots.

[Vanity]

Well, that's a perfectly reasonable thought.

[Courtney Act]

But you don't think that when you're. I remember.

[Vanity]

In the movie Pollyanne over here. Yeah. I'm so grateful.

[Katya]

Those are just.

[Vanity]

Let's look on the bright side.

[Katya]

And then I needed a new nose anyway, like.

[Vanity]

Like, I've been meaning to talk to my pcp. I'm gonna go for my annual checkup.

[Courtney Act]

And then I got. They were like, give me a wallet. And I didn't have a wallet.

[Katya]

I have a purse.

[Courtney Act]

I had a Gucci money clip. And I was like, but there was no money in it. And they're like, give me a wallet. And I was like, it's a money clip. It's Gucci. Please take it. And in the confusion, they were like, what?

[Vanity]

And they couldn't Google the value because it was way before we buy smartphones.

[Courtney Act]

And I get. I walk in the door, and Vanity's like, oh, don't worry. I got the bobby pins. And she was like, are you all right? And I was like, no.

[Katya]

Did you cry? Yeah.

[Courtney Act]

Of course you cried. And then she came. She did the number, and then she came to the police station with me. She beat the shit as turn back timeshare because I had to report the hate crime.

[Vanity]

Where was this story 10 years ago? Corinne.

[Courtney Act]

And then. And then there's, like, a wooden pew in the police station. And I had to go into, like, the room where you give a statement. Vanity sits down and waits. I go into the room. I come back out, she's taken off her wig, and she's sleeping on it as a pillow on the pew in the police station. And I was like, that's a friend.

[Vanity]

Did she do any in character with the. I'm here to report a murder. My friend was killed.

[Courtney Act]

My friend was. Hate crimes.

[Vanity]

This is a travesty.

[Katya]

We rewatched season seven last year because it was 10 years. That means it's 12 years this year of season six. When's the last time you watched it?

[Courtney Act]

I watched it during COVID And that's 2020. 2020. And I.

[Katya]

What'd you think?

[Courtney Act]

I really loved it.

[Vanity]

I mean, your runways are. I.

[Courtney Act]

You can't edit out a Runway.

[Vanity]

You can't edit out a Runway. And I gotta say, I think season six, in a lot of ways, was the. The apex. We jumped the shark after that or turned into something else. You burned the Runway every time. Except for that red look, that thing on your face.

[Courtney Act]

But I had to make that myself.

[Vanity]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything else was show stopping.

[Katya]

I loved your wings.

[Courtney Act]

In a time before show stopping on the Runway was really a thing and also conceptual. They were all like Klaus Nomi.

[Vanity]

Klaus Nomi Malone.

[Courtney Act]

The giant hair with the Victor and Rolf bed.

[Katya]

Victor and Rolf bed was so cool.

[Vanity]

Incredible. Like, references. Like a full realized, like, look for. For not a. Not just like, drag queen look.

[Katya]

Number four. And great Hairlines.

[Courtney Act]

Oh, and my. My aboriginal and Australian flag gown.

[Vanity]

Oh, that's right. You got to see that one. The wings were truly spectacular.

[Courtney Act]

I mean, they're now in a museum. I donated them to the Powerhouse Museum in Australia.

[Vanity]

The Powerhouse Museum?

[Courtney Act]

That's what it's called.

[Vanity]

And what else? What was your favorite look from your season? Original.

[Courtney Act]

I mean, you can't go past the wings recently.

[Katya]

That's so funny. You're here. I didn't even know you're gonna be here today. You didn't know I was gonna be here. We only knew about you today.

[Vanity]

I'm gatekeeping.

[Katya]

Just today they showed me a clip of season six Untucked, because they had the last, like, real.

[Vanity]

It was the chronic.

[Katya]

Untuck is one where Gia was yelling at Milk about her pregnant look. The one where she's like drag is. Is dressed as a girl and it's not giving feminine at all. Gia really went for the jugular on that program.

[Courtney Act]

I remember having a conversation with Gia, talking her out of coming out as trans on the show, like off camera. We were like talking about it famously.

[Katya]

She's very close minded.

[Vanity]

Rolling are like.

[Courtney Act]

Well, I was like, I. I remember like having this like weird conversation. Now, in retrospect especially that she is a trans woman, but I think she was like questioning at the time whether she. You were being protective. And I was like, I don't know if this is the place where you really want to share information.

[Vanity]

Yeah, that's probably.

[Courtney Act]

And I remember Laganja's breakdown. Oh God, you were so much worse in real life.

[Vanity]

You were there. I'm sure it was. And also we. I mean, not to make this about us, but like, you guys had a super glossy, highly produced, some could argue just as good as the show Untucked. I mean, iconic.

[Katya]

We're Laganja stands as well.

[Vanity]

So many iconic moments.

[Katya]

We walk in there, you couldn't have understood what happened.

[Vanity]

No, Jen Stander, you do not understand what we're seeing.

[Katya]

When we walked into Untucked and it was some area.

[Vanity]

It was surveillance footage of a parking lot. That's what we got. That's what we got.

[Courtney Act]

We got the last gun.

[Katya]

Unused area of the soundstage with some five gallon buckets and some baked cheese.

[Vanity]

It was like humiliating.

[Courtney Act]

There must have been a reason they stopped it. But for me as a fan, it

[Katya]

was so awesome to watch it.

[Courtney Act]

Untucked is so good. And now it's just like season six

[Katya]

Untucked was so fucking season six.

[Vanity]

It's phenomenal. I mean, they Literally cannibalized it for their next 10 seasons. All those moments.

[Katya]

Because they had Adore.

[Vanity]

Yeah.

[Katya]

And obviously it's a great season, but it was good untuck season because these bitches were at each other's throats.

[Ad Host 2]

Yes.

[Vanity]

Yeah.

[Courtney Act]

I see comments every now and then. Like, you know, a Reddit thread comes up and you start reading, and there's always. They always say lovely things about me on Reddit, which I appreciate.

[Vanity]

Yeah.

[Courtney Act]

Sound like Donald Trump. Then they always say lovely things about. And I am great.

[Vanity]

Whenever I read the Sam Beautiful, I

[Courtney Act]

read a comment that I agree with, and I feel so vindicated. Where they're like, you know what? I just rewatched season six of Drag Race, and Courtney actor is so beautiful and perfect until episode the Rap Challenge. And then all of a sudden, she doesn't really appear in much of the rest of the season. And even when I won the interview challenge, like, they were like, somehow they edited that out as well. And the only other thing that really happened was, like, her and Jocelyn in a row. And I was like, I felt that, too. And I just love, like, reading. Oh. In my memoir, my favorite. I was thinking about this yesterday. I wrote the Drag Race section. The chapter opens with the winner of RuPaul's Drag Race Season 6 is Courtney Act. And then it was like, stop, reset. Back to one kind of thing. Because you film all three. Or in.

[Katya]

Oh, yes. And you know about fake ending.

[Courtney Act]

You know. Yeah. The gag, though, that they filmed Bianca and Adore doing a tie, and I was just like, they didn't film a

[Katya]

Courtney ending at all.

[Courtney Act]

They filmed a Courtney ending, but they filmed everybody and everybody winning. And then they filmed Adora and Bianca tying.

[Vanity]

That is.

[Courtney Act]

It was this very. Like.

[Vanity]

That is.

[Katya]

I have thoughts about that because it was so humiliated. That is.

[Vanity]

That is evil for all. That's like. That's mean. The mean gays.

[Katya]

Mean gays All Stars 3. We filmed a tie for me and Kennedy, but I also didn't think that they would do it.

[Vanity]

Yeah, but that makes sense. It's the top two.

[Katya]

But then in the next All Stars, Trinity and Monet tie. And we never filmed the tie. I was there. We never filmed a tie.

[Courtney Act]

They Frankensteined it together.

[Katya]

Yes. We never filmed a tie. And then there was a time I

[Vanity]

was there watching it live with them, and they were gagged.

[Katya]

Yes. But I remember thinking, like, crazy, wouldn't you film a tie if it was at all possible?

[Vanity]

Well, that just goes to show you. This is a. This is.

[Katya]

This is the. This were other People, like, how come they didn't film a tie of you? Did I miss it?

[Courtney Act]

It's. I honestly. It's like a scene in a movie where, like, somebody unplugs, like, something really dramatic happens, and somebody unplugs the sound cord, and the movie goes silent, but you still see the action happen, or,

[Vanity]

like, when the lights go out and the check gets changed and the last minute.

[Katya]

Was it hard? Did you want to cry?

[Courtney Act]

I.

[Vanity]

In front of a studio audience.

[Courtney Act]

I would.

[Katya]

Just because you were a lot younger.

[Courtney Act]

I would describe, like, I went through, like, some sort of psychological something in the hotel room afterwards. I was checking lamps for microphones. Like, I got, like, paranoid.

[Vanity]

Oh, wow. That's, like, pookie behavior.

[Courtney Act]

My hotel room, she goes to a

[Katya]

room, she goes, well, they want to film my crowning in here.

[Vanity]

Yeah.

[Katya]

That's why they didn't do it. Well, I had Simon in here.

[Vanity]

Please. Should I speak? Should I just act natural?

[Katya]

I'll just get in bed. Is RuPaul coming here?

[Vanity]

She's already in the bed. Okay. Should I. Her.

[Katya]

She goes back to RuPaul's in the bed with a towel on her head

[Courtney Act]

being like, congratulations, I had Simon Sherrywood with me. We didn't have any way to get.

[Vanity]

Like, was this when you were in the. The. The. The gold. The. Oh, no, no.

[Courtney Act]

I was, like, in a pink per. Not perspex, but, like, opalescent.

[Vanity]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh.

[Courtney Act]

I first saw. Wore this, like, oh. Which.

[Vanity]

To the premiere, you wore the gold.

[Katya]

Who did you think was going to win?

[Courtney Act]

Bianca. I definitely knew that I was not gonna win. I definitely knew it was Bianca or Adore.

[Vanity]

Yeah.

[Courtney Act]

I mean, when season six cut filming, we all thought Adore Darian was gonna win because we were still a top four.

[Katya]

Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's right.

[Vanity]

Oh, that's diabolical the way they do that. I hate that.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah. And we all thought that each other could have won. And I've checked with Bianca and Adore, and I'm like, tell me straight. Like, am I. Am I deluded? And Bianca's like, no, I absolutely loved you while we were filming. I didn't hate you until I watched it back on television.

[Vanity]

I mean, I thought, like, I thought Ginger was gonna win when we left. When we left.

[Katya]

Yeah, we all thought Ginger would win.

[Vanity]

Yeah. So. So how? What?

[Courtney Act]

Oh, it's funny because, like, I went through. When I wrote my memoir, I wrote, like, so much, and then I didn't put a lot of it in the book because I realized I was just,

[Katya]

you're saving it for this podcast.

[Courtney Act]

I realized I was just venting, and it was sort of, like, stuff I needed to process. And then I did one final. When I was recording the audiobook, I was still able to make edits. And I was serious. Yeah. Reading the. The Drag Race section, I was like, do you know what? I just put that bit in there because I wanted to, like, like revenge or like, I wanted to kick them. And I was like, I'm gonna take all those bits out. I did still say a lot in the memoir that I think maybe if I wasn't ever gonna be on All Stars again, probably definitely won't be after the memoir. Right. But I thought that it was all, like, interesting.

[Vanity]

It's dishy. It's. It's. I mean, it's very dishy. I mean, I'm. It's such a. I don't know. I just feel like if you really

[Katya]

didn't think you were gonna win, it's not that you wanted them to do a crowning. Cause it sounds like you didn't think it would win, but you think the principle of them not doing one when everyone is like. Like, they can't run the tape for five minutes and just do it.

[Vanity]

It's inconsiderate to me. It's mean.

[Courtney Act]

It is. But also, like, I get it. It's tea.

[Vanity]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.

[Courtney Act]

But, like, I need.

[Katya]

They're probably like, we don't need. She lost. Right?

[Courtney Act]

Yeah.

[Vanity]

We don't need to tie with this ugly. This ugly blonde that everybody hates. Right?

[Katya]

She's kind of older.

[Courtney Act]

Okay.

[Vanity]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Katya]

Or door was what, 21?

[Courtney Act]

Yeah. She was sweating violet. She bought everything off Amazon. Everything she was wearing, she bought off Amazon girl.

[Vanity]

When she showed up, I was ashamed because when she showed up on All Stars, I, I, she had all this stuff. I think it's from that Australian Cup. What is that Australian company?

[Katya]

That Sequin Showstoppers.

[Vanity]

No.

[Courtney Act]

House of Priscilla.

[Vanity]

Yeah. No, it's Crocs and Frocks chicks. No, I forget. It's like a Lee Cronin.

[Courtney Act]

Inside joke.

[Vanity]

Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Joke. House of Ugly or something like that. Or of Priscilla. No, it's not drag stuff. It's like fashion.

[Katya]

She said House of Ugly and you said house. You're the House of Priscilla.

[Vanity]

Do you know what I'm talking about?

[Courtney Act]

You Discount universe.

[Vanity]

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Beautiful. Cool.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah.

[Katya]

Where does Door get her clothes? Discount Universe.

[Vanity]

It sounds like that she. That fashion brand lately or whatever.

[Katya]

That fashion brand company.

[Vanity]

Yeah, it's, like, ironic. Oh, yeah, they're cool. I. I saw it, like, I peaked at her wardrobe. I was like, oh, my God, you're going to look so C this season. And, you know, and then she.

[Courtney Act]

We know how that happened.

[Vanity]

Yeah, she left, which I think was really wonderful of her to do. I love quitting.

[Katya]

You know, I think the golden rule in reality TV is that nothing's more interesting than what really happens.

[Vanity]

Yeah.

[Katya]

When people. When Ben left, we were just like, wow, thank God. But like, I don't know. I. We're. We're getting ready to watch All Stars too, like this summer because.

[Courtney Act]

Have you been on an All Stars?

[Vanity]

I've been on the second one. I mean, this was with the door.

[Courtney Act]

That was where I do was.

[Vanity]

It was like 10, 10 or 11 years ago.

[Courtney Act]

I was trying to think this yesterday. 33 or four years ago.

[Katya]

Yeah, it was 10 years ago this year. It didn't come out in the summer.

[Vanity]

2025.

[Courtney Act]

It's 2026 now.

[Vanity]

It was 2016. Yeah.

[Katya]

So we're getting ready to watch that, and I'm excited to see Adora.

[Courtney Act]

How do you find watching it back? How did you find watching back your season seven?

[Katya]

It was like, you're so young. I was like, it's like watching it happen to somebody else.

[Vanity]

Yeah. Also. And it's like, I don't particularly enjoy watching myself be mid. So, like, that's like, I can. The big flops. I'm like, oh, God, that's so cringey. Or the winds is like, great. But I was. I had a lot of mid moments and that's just not fun.

[Courtney Act]

I find watching Drag Race back, this is an original thought I'm just having. So I don't know if it'll make sense, but, like, you know, when you go to therapy and you talk about childhood trauma. Right. And you. Now Courtney's my therapist.

[Vanity]

Right.

[Courtney Act]

No, really, when you. Something that happened to you in your past at the time, you sort of put it in a box, not able to understand or deal with it. So it's sort of like saved as trauma. It's rattling around in your head until you come back as an adult with a therapist in a safe environment to unpack it, understand it from adult eyes and reframe it and help sort of

[Vanity]

dissolve the trauma or stick it on Rebecca Ferguson.

[Courtney Act]

Watching drag race back 10 years later is like childhood regression therapy. Because now you're an adult, you see that it didn't end. You see that your career went on. You see that people love you, and you watch it back and you're like, oh, this is all just a part of me. And the trauma from the experience is gone.

[Vanity]

It's a bullet point on the fucking resume. You have to conquer every single English speaking country in the goddamn world.

[Katya]

When I watched it, I just remember being so young and so scared. And when you realize watching it from so far back now, it's like, it's a fun TV show. Why didn't I have more fun? Why did I like kind of ruin it for myself by caring too much in the wrong ways? If I could wish on my 20, 24 year old self, it'd be like, why don't you have a little fun, hoe girl? It's not that serious.

[Vanity]

Oh my God.

[Katya]

But I felt like it was so serious.

[Vanity]

It felt like. It felt like life or death.

[Courtney Act]

Well, because at that point that was the biggest thing we'd ever done and we didn't know there was nothing else towards. Because there was no stars as yet.

[Vanity]

No.

[Katya]

I mean, you also both did great on your seasons, so it's not like you had regrets in your competing.

[Vanity]

No, I'm talking. But I must have went home season two, though. And that was like. I mean, episode two. And that to me was like a fate worse than death.

[Courtney Act]

Yes.

[Vanity]

And it was like, it's worse than going home first. Yes, it is. And it's like, well, apologies to everybody who went home second. But like the.

[Courtney Act]

We don't know who they are.

[Vanity]

Yeah.

[Katya]

Don't you think they'd agree?

[Vanity]

I probably. Yeah, probably.

[Katya]

Yeah.

[Vanity]

But it felt like you're going out to war and you died.

[Courtney Act]

Yes.

[Vanity]

Like, because.

[Courtney Act]

And then when it comes out, it's just like, you don't know what you don't know. You don't know that your life is going to go on. Because let's be fair, for a lot of people who have been on the show, that was kind of the end.

[Vanity]

Yeah.

[Courtney Act]

Or like a drag career doing some gigs. But like, some haven't. But like the three of us have been fortunate to like take it and make something else and grow and. And have great careers that we love. Yeah.

[Vanity]

But because we all have really tight pussies.

[Courtney Act]

We didn't know that then. Yeah. Less tight this morning.

[Vanity]

Did you get fucked this morning?

[Katya]

Did.

[Courtney Act]

I'm not gonna fart the same again ever.

[Vanity]

Don't.

[Katya]

When you. And you know, she's got them weird vegan farts too. Dude.

[Vanity]

Mary, this person has lived with me. You don't understand the. Pull my finger. You don't understand.

[Katya]

Pull my finger.

[Vanity]

Mary. You don't Understand, behind the scenes, this perfect looking woman is a rotted skunk.

[Courtney Act]

But they don't smell.

[Vanity]

They don't.

[Katya]

That's why I hang out with vanity. I want a lady.

[Vanity]

A woman of couth and decorum. She has none of it, but she will waltz down the stairs in her tiny little shorts with her purple, perfect tan thighs and she'll be like in the kitchen, glowing. It's six in the morning. I come down looking like, yeah. She's like, pull my finger. It goes, sorry for the listeners.

[Courtney Act]

It's tighter than that.

[Vanity]

And then like, like a fresh spring rain. Like a. Like a lemon verbenas candle.

[Courtney Act]

I also, I also have citronella. Citronella.

[Vanity]

No mosquitoes left in the room.

[Courtney Act]

Lavender peach bellini. Peach bellini.

[Vanity]

Meanwhile, I'm just. I like, I go high. My breath becomes a green vapor.

[Courtney Act]

I also have an enchanted butthole where I don't have to douche. Not ever. But I know what's going on.

[Vanity]

But you have. You're very in tune and in touch with your GI tract.

[Courtney Act]

I am. I am. My microbiome is one of my most important assets.

[Vanity]

It's impressive.

[Katya]

That's good.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah.

[Vanity]

The gut microbiome.

[Katya]

The gut micro.

[Vanity]

One time I came to Lee Cronin's gut microbiome.

[Katya]

One time I came to Courtney's house and we made. I don't remember this. We cooked like a vegan green chef meal together.

[Courtney Act]

Oh, yeah.

[Katya]

She was like, come over and we just eat that.

[Vanity]

And it was great.

[Courtney Act]

No, I just had a flashback to P Town 2014. Before you did drag race.

[Katya]

After.

[Courtney Act]

After. But maybe it hadn't aired or it was airing.

[Katya]

Was it the year we both worked in P Town or was it.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah, there's a great photo of me laying on the ground in the Australia in the Australia Aboriginal flag dress. And you're just like pointing and laughing and I think like flicking flyers, throwing

[Katya]

flyers at her on the ground.

[Courtney Act]

It's like a parade. There's like a car, there's a.

[Katya]

There's a jeep behind me. The gay guys pointing and laughing too. It's just kind of fun to make Courtney feel bad.

[Courtney Act]

It is.

[Vanity]

I mean, the first time being bullied,

[Katya]

it was as a joke. It's like, just kidding. We love you.

[Vanity]

Get up.

[Katya]

Would you like some cash?

[Vanity]

Wait, so you were mugged and then

[Courtney Act]

you're just trying to recount all the trauma.

[Vanity]

So, yeah, you kicked in the face and then, oh, we got a wrap. But what would you say? Did they ask you that diabolical question? What would you say?

[Katya]

To little Shane. Did they do that on season? I don't remember.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah, they did. And I find I.

[Katya]

What would you say to little Shane? Why are you so little?

[Vanity]

Yeah. No, what would you say. What would you say to dying Shane?

[Courtney Act]

Oh, well, little Shane, I have done this in therapy, right. And I've, like, heard about them. Talk about, like, your inner child and tell them whatever. And I actually had this really cathartic moment in therapy where my, like, core trauma is, why don't you like me? And it's in high school. I'm like, 15, and in my mind, I'm standing, like, all of the same. The. The boys would sit there at a block, and I'm standing there looking at all of the boys, and I'm asking, like, in my mind, like, why don't you like me? And that was always, like, the thing because, like, mom and dad, very loving, very supportive, like, grew up with a very healthy sense of self worth, but it was always like, why don't you like me? And then also the unrequited love thing as a gay kid and having crushes on the boys.

[Vanity]

Well, you weren't sucking their cocks.

[Courtney Act]

I know, but I wanted to.

[Katya]

There's something very shitty about having to go through some of those formative, like, high school experiences devoid of actual real romance.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah.

[Katya]

Going to, like, prom.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah.

[Katya]

If you were going with someone you have a crush on, butterflies for that probably is so the main part of it.

[Courtney Act]

Imagine.

[Vanity]

No.

[Katya]

Do you know what I mean?

[Courtney Act]

Yeah. I had crushes on girls, though. Like, legit.

[Katya]

Right.

[Courtney Act]

And I would, like, write them. I was like, pathetic. I'd, like, write them love letters and buy them flowers, and they would just be like,

[Vanity]

oh, damn.

[Katya]

They'd be like, okay, faggot.

[Vanity]

Yeah, okay.

[Courtney Act]

And I think that's why I'm gay.

[Vanity]

Yeah. Those bitches turned you gay and those muggers made you.

[Courtney Act]

I'm an incel. But instead of just not having sex with women, I pivoted and had sex with men instead.

[Katya]

Catboys.

[Courtney Act]

What's a cat Boy girl.

[Katya]

The incels, they be having sex with them. Catboys.

[Vanity]

All right, we'll see you next time.

[Katya]

Listen, I'm not here to educate you, okay?

[Vanity]

Cat boys.

[Katya]

I'm a white bald man, and my culture is not a joke.

[Vanity]

Next up on the bald and beautiful, we'll interview a catboy.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah.

[Katya]

I hate to be problematic, but I try to make people sell things when they're on here. Is there anything people can buy from you?

[Vanity]

Of course there is. You know what?

[Courtney Act]

I want people to buy from me gigs this summer in the United States. Because I am here in your country and I feel like people don't think of Courtney actors being here and doing like bar gigs. But I did some bar gigs last summer and I actually love them so much because I don't have to do them all the time.

[Vanity]

They are his. I've been doing them too. Wiggle gigs are turned.

[Katya]

Do you lip sync or no?

[Courtney Act]

No. I actually think I want to try lip syncing.

[Katya]

If you haven't lip synced in a while, it's fine.

[Courtney Act]

I haven't lip synced since 2000.

[Vanity]

You're gonna get your life too. You know a lot of songs. Don't lip sync your own music.

[Katya]

Don't give him the Olivia. Give him the Kylie.

[Vanity]

Give him the Kylie. Give him a Kylie.

[Katya]

Give him Xanadu.

[Courtney Act]

Because I look at Queens who lip sync. Like, as a singer you have to like, not have fun. You can't go to the bar. You can't be loud. You've got to like, protect your gifts.

[Ad Host 2]

Sure, sure, sure.

[Courtney Act]

And so I've actually have learned though that like wearing earplugs everywhere. I travel with earplugs everywhere I go, like these tiny little ones. Nobody knows I'm wearing them. And then I don't lose my voice because it's called the Lombard effect, where when you can't hear your voice, you project over the music and you just yell and you lose your voice. But when you wear the earplugs, you can hear voices.

[Vanity]

Do you lip sync when you lip sync? Like, so when you're in the car lip syncing on. On the van back to Drag Race because you know you're lip syncing. That night the girls told me that my voice, like, I don't lips like

[Katya]

she sings in a high voice.

[Vanity]

Like, I, I no do the voice. I can't do it unless I'm listening to music. But it's like,

[Katya]

Isn't that crazy?

[Courtney Act]

I was doing this gig recently.

[Katya]

If you go to one of her gigs and she's lip sync, if you get close enough, she's doing that.

[Courtney Act]

But you know what happens when you. When you're lip syncing into a mic and they leave the mic live. That happens Coco Jumbo and. And Vibe. I was doing this gig in Sydney and I had in ear monitors in because I was like hosting this film festival and they were on like the, like throwing to these girls on the stage and they had microphones and they were lip syncing to like, I will survive. But they didn't know Their mics were alive and they're like,

[Vanity]

You, girl, that's me. But they. Oh, God, that's so fierce. That's.

[Katya]

I wish your shows. The audience could pay extra for like a silent disco where they could wear headphones of your lives

[Vanity]

is like sweat droplets and huffing.

[Courtney Act]

What is a pussy boy? A cat boy.

[Vanity]

Cat boy.

[Katya]

Cat boy.

[Vanity]

We're going to do cliffhanger.

[Katya]

Okay.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah. So book me. Book me in a game.

[Vanity]

Go see her live.

[Courtney Act]

Like, play Louisville.

[Vanity]

Play Mary.

[Courtney Act]

What are the best gigs?

[Vanity]

It is. It is.

[Katya]

Shout out to the. Play Louisville and Nashville in Nashville.

[Vanity]

Louisville, Nashville. They would turn up. They would turn out and they would. They would stuff your fucking pussy filled with dollars.

[Courtney Act]

I have done bebops in Alabama like, like six times. More times than any other city.

[Katya]

I've done Mobile. That is a fun place.

[Courtney Act]

But they still smoke inside.

[Katya]

Yeah, it's like a small. It's like a. It's a big square room. Right. I remember it.

[Courtney Act]

There's a downstairs. There's an upstairs with Ms. C. The. She's like the. The diva that's been there for.

[Vanity]

What about Splash Bar in Panama City beach with the. With the Glamour Shed.

[Courtney Act]

I've never been there.

[Katya]

The Chicken Shack.

[Vanity]

Thank God.

[Courtney Act]

No, don't.

[Katya]

That's where Miss Fame had the hair clip while she lip synced Tentacles. Tentacles. Now you're just with us.

[Courtney Act]

I know. Tentacles. Haven't you heard of tentacles? You have done the tentacles.

[Vanity]

Tentacles.

[Katya]

She's a liar.

[Vanity]

Yeah.

[Courtney Act]

Goodbye and detox. Talk about tentacles. No, I'm doing it in July. Alaska's doing it in August.

[Vanity]

Well, stay tuned. We'll be back with Courtney active. She does her tentacles.

[Courtney Act]

Yeah.

[Katya]

Thank you.

[Vanity]

Give it up for Courtney.

[Courtney Act]

Thank you,

[Katya]

Tentacles.

[Courtney Act]

See you there.

[Katya]

Get your wristband for the meet and greet at Tentacles.