Lifting the Gossamer Curtain to the Other Side with Trixie and Katya

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Lifting the Gossamer Curtain to the Other Side with Trixie and Katya"

Release Date: May 27, 2025

Host: Studio71

Title: The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya

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1. Introduction and Setting the Stage

The episode kicks off with Trixie Mattel and Katya Zamolodchikova engaging in their trademark playful banter. They swiftly move past advertisements to dive into their main discussions, setting an energetic and humorous tone for the episode.

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2. Beyoncé’s "Cowboy Carter" and National Pride

Trixie and Katya delve into Beyoncé's new original comedy series, "Cowboy Carter," expressing strong admiration for its portrayal of American pride and empowerment.

• Trixie Mattel [04:07]: "The log line is the feelings she communicated to me in the show... it's the only thing that's made me proud to be American in a long time."

• Katya Zamolodchikova [07:25]: "It just was like... I'm beautiful, I'm talented, I'm confident..."

They praise Beyoncé’s ability to inspire a sense of unity and hope without being overly preachy, highlighting specific scenes that resonated emotionally with them.

• Trixie Mattel [07:44]: "It was the best stadium show I've ever seen."

The hosts discuss how the show balances patriotism with inclusivity, making it accessible and enjoyable for a wide audience, including conservatives.

• Katya Zamolodchikova [09:07]: "She talked for maybe 60 seconds the entire show. There was almost no talk."

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3. Broadway and "Oh My Mary"

Transitioning from television to theater, Trixie and Katya share their experiences attending the Broadway production "Oh My Mary," lauding its exceptional performances and production quality.

• Katya Zamolodchikova [10:46]: "It was so tight, so crisp, so well directed, so well acted. Everybody deserves everything in the world that can be given on Broadway."

They extensively praise the lead performer Cole for starring and writing the show, noting the intricate design and emotional depth.

• Trixie Mattel [30:16]: "Oh, Mary was the best thing I ever saw."

The conversation includes humorous anecdotes about interactions backstage and the challenges of attending multiple shows, emphasizing the overwhelming talent present.

• Katya Zamolodchikova [30:53]: "If you have any resources or ability to go to New York and Broadway and see Oh My Mary, I would skip every other thing..."

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4. Interior Design and Property Management

Shifting gears, the duo discusses their personal ventures into interior design and managing properties, highlighting the complexities and humorous mishaps involved.

• Katya Zamolodchikova [33:30]: "It's crazy. You know, I'm gonna paint myself. I'm gonna hire some friends or..."

• Trixie Mattel [35:34]: "You make those decisions."

They share stories about selecting materials, negotiating costs, and the challenges of balancing aesthetic desires with practical budgets. The conversation is laced with their signature humor and candidness.

• Katya Zamolodchikova [35:36]: "I think I need a Moment. Let's take a break."

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5. Social Issues: HIV Funding and the LA LGBT Center

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing pressing social issues, particularly the reduction of HIV prevention funding in Los Angeles County and its impact on the community.

• Trixie Mattel [50:36]: "The LA LGBT center is doing free veneers, but the only Asia o' Hara kind. So they have to be dazzling."

• Katya Zamolodchikova [51:03]: "They're breaking... losing HIV prevention funding ahead of federal decisions."

They emphasize the critical role of the LA LGBT Center in providing essential services, including housing and healthcare, and express concern over the potential rise in HIV transmission rates due to decreased funding.

• Trixie Mattel [51:37]: "So you don't get 30 dolls, then we're not protecting the dolls."

The hosts advocate for continued support and funding, highlighting personal connections and the life-changing work the center performs.

• Katya Zamolodchikova [52:14]: "And you have to be able to recite three RuPaul, Instagram, TikToks, verbatim."

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6. Music and Artistic Expressions

Exploring their creative sides, Trixie and Katya discuss their musical endeavors, including covers and original works. They share snippets of their music projects, reflecting on the challenges and joys of artistic expression.

• Katya Zamolodchikova [40:29]: "Yes, we did tons of vote. I mean, it's a lot of vocal."

They humorously critique their own performances, blending genuine passion with self-deprecating humor.

• Trixie Mattel [43:04]: "I would say that your music sounds like torch music. Sounds like someone's on fire."

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7. Social Media and Public Interactions

The hosts touch on their interactions on social media platforms, especially Twitter, and their perspectives on public discourse and online behavior.

• Trixie Mattel [49:05]: "I think people have heard black diarrhea, so I'm gonna... So I did a cover of the Electric Hellfire Club song called Slaughter of Elysium from the album Kiss the Goat."

They discuss the challenges of maintaining positivity and navigating conflicts in the digital age, advocating for non-violent communication and understanding.

• Katya Zamolodchikova [49:35]: "Why can't that be everybody's tea?"

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8. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

As the episode nears its end, Trixie and Katya reiterate their support for the LA LGBT Center and reflect on the importance of community and activism. They close with humorous exchanges, maintaining their lighthearted and affectionate rapport.

• Trixie Mattel [53:03]: "I love LA LGBT Center. They are. I do too. I believe it's the greatest."

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Notable Quotes:

• Trixie Mattel [07:44]: "It was the best stadium show I've ever seen."

• Katya Zamolodchikova [50:10]: "We are reaping none of the benefits of a so called melting pot."

• Trixie Mattel [43:04]: "I would say that your music sounds like torch music. Sounds like someone's on fire."

• Katya Zamolodchikova [49:35]: "Why can't that be everybody's tea?"

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Conclusion

In this episode, Trixie Mattel and Katya Zamolodchikova blend humor, heartfelt discussions, and social commentary, offering listeners a multifaceted look into their lives and the issues they care about. From celebrating artistic achievements to advocating for crucial social services, the hosts navigate a variety of topics with their unique flair, making "Lifting the Gossamer Curtain to the Other Side" a compelling and engaging listen.

Transcript

[Trixie Mattel]

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[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Bald is dropped the daycare, sis.

[Trixie Mattel]

Bald is beautiful. Feels like all drag is valid, mama.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Let me tell you something. You got a nice shaped head. You shut the fuck up.

[Trixie Mattel]

Thanks. Okay, sure.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Shut the fuck up, bro.

[Trixie Mattel]

Hey, I don't have to fuck me.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That tea. That's the ultimate tea. You put that on a bumper sticker or a sash. Everybody needs to remember that.

[Trixie Mattel]

If you want a deep sea dive in a heap of trash, that's on you.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That's your garbage king. Okay?

[Trixie Mattel]

That's your life.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Don't fault me for being open.

[Trixie Mattel]

I sent this to. I said this to our lovely producer, Tracy, because I heard it and thought of you. And basically it's a TikTok about like, oh, we didn't have therapy in the 90s. We just had daytime talk shows like this.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

We got a question for Sylvia Brown.

[Trixie Mattel]

I have, Sylvia Brown.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

A really bad problem with social anxiety. I can't. Freaking out. I can't. You're doing pretty good now, but let me tell you where this comes from. You were accused of being a witch in a past life. You were put in a circle and you had to name two people so that supposedly you wouldn't die.

[Trixie Mattel]

The girl's just crying, listening to this.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

They just said, tell us two people. You name two people, and all three of you were hung. Fucking obsessed. Obsessed.

[Trixie Mattel]

Sylvia Brown's. Well, you were a witch who was hung.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Very familiar with Ms. Brown because I worked in a bookstore. That. That grift. That. That blonde grifter, the gal. Together. That is so funny and with such conviction and certainty, like authority.

[Trixie Mattel]

With like, it's. Oh, well, you're double parked.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, it's like, oh, you're like, I'm six three, I'm six seven. And I get self conscious about being so tall. Oh, well, that's because you were.

[Trixie Mattel]

You were a giraffe.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, exactly. And you were killed by a rhinoceros. It was like, it's so crazy. It's. And she made.

[Trixie Mattel]

Well, she obviously inspired your wigs. I feel like three of your wigs look like Sylvia Brown wigs.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Rafaelicara inspired my wigs.

[Trixie Mattel]

The Ninja Turtle.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Pull up.

[Trixie Mattel]

Ninja Turtle.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Pull up.

[Trixie Mattel]

Raphaela Cara, please.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

C A r r a Ms. Sylvia Brown.

[Trixie Mattel]

Fiance Knowles. I saw Beyonce last night.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay, Beyonce. What's your favorite kind of cheese?

[Trixie Mattel]

What's your favorite kind of cheese? Beyonce was awesome.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Tell me about it.

[Trixie Mattel]

The log line is the feelings she communicated to me in the show. What was it? Well, that girl, that's you. You're so make believe you have that way.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That's Raphael Aara.

[Trixie Mattel]

Do you mean Sylvia Brown?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, I meant, is that Sylvia Brown?

[Trixie Mattel]

No, in another life, Sylvia Brown was Rafael Cara. Okay.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, in the same.

[Trixie Mattel]

In the same.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Just in Italy. Okay. So how is. How is Beyonce?

[Trixie Mattel]

It communicates. Can I say the short. The short of it is it's the only thing that's made me proud to be American in a long time.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Really?

[Trixie Mattel]

It just was like. I know this wasn't the primary messaging, but the fun part of the messaging was just like, I'm beautiful, I'm talented, I'm confident, I'm a Mother, I'm an artist, a mayor, the best thing about America. And I am a black woman, a mayor.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I can.

[Trixie Mattel]

And she's. Clips of her from younger. It's like, I'm the American dream, which is true. I'm empathetic. I'm proud of where I'm from. I'm proud to be black. I'm proud to be a woman. I'm proud to have gay people in my orbit. And without being too finger waggy, like, I actually think a conservative could go watch it and have a good experience and not feel like we're.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

They would do that thing where they're.

[Trixie Mattel]

Like, I don't think they would. Because she comes out singing about America and I think they're like, yeah, America's crushed. Like, I think they could still get that out of it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

How many times did she do the Star Spangled Banner?

[Trixie Mattel]

She's saying part of it once. Dead serious.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Pledge of Allegiance.

[Trixie Mattel]

Well, she wouldn't stop saying that. Oh, by the way, when she's saying that, she's saying the Star Spangled Banner. I went like this. And I have not felt the need to do that in probably 10 years.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I did. I did this first. I was like, oh, no, no.

[Trixie Mattel]

Right. And the person next to me, I go. And I like made people around me.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

But they're taking their hats off.

[Trixie Mattel]

But I went wearing this. A camouflage hat and big dad glasses. And I took a picture with Duck Dynasty. And I was like, if you were scrolling, this looks like God's country.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh my God.

[Trixie Mattel]

That in a small town.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

It was the best singing I've ever heard in my life.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

For real.

[Trixie Mattel]

She flies around. It was the best stadium show I've ever seen.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

And it was amazing.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well, Ms. Knowles, Carter always sucks it to you.

[Trixie Mattel]

The singing I. The singing live is.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That's where you lose. Hard to believe that's where you lose me.

[Trixie Mattel]

She could be just singing and you're like, this is the best.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You think she could do it? She could do a parking bark.

[Trixie Mattel]

A hundred percent.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Actually, in. At the beginning of Renaissance, she did a park and bark and it was delightful.

[Trixie Mattel]

I mean, the.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Did you see the Renaissance video movie or the couture? No, highly suggested. Highly suggested. Very wonderfully filmed.

[Trixie Mattel]

She had a renaissance section, but I know, you know, was short. It was like 10 minutes or something. But it was so awesome. And what was your favorite part? There's these parts where she talks about like, let me hear an American poem. And it's a. You know, all the parts of America that she cites are not the shit that you see when people are trying to float America. It was, like, American propaganda if it was being used for good.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

So. So, like, patriotism, but like, actually national pride.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yes.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

National pride about, like, you know, gay people and black women that came before her and her experience as a mother and a Texan. And it just was, like, general. This part at the end where she's kind of singing about, like, what a big part of what I got out of it is that it's like.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She.

[Trixie Mattel]

Was kind of like, let's all just hold our hands and bleed for America for one second. But in a hopeful way without being like, too that. I just left feeling hopeful for America. She made me, like, happy about America.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Jesus Christ, I can't wait. I'm seeing it tomorrow night.

[Trixie Mattel]

It was. It was so beautiful. She comes out, you know, she kind of started it with the American Requiem thing, and I'm immediately crying. I mean, it was American Requiem from. It's the first track from Cowboy Carter.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, gotcha.

[Trixie Mattel]

And it was just beautiful. She communicated to me, look at this. I expected cuntiness, but, like, it was like I felt like I watched a play.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Giselle went straight to her heart.

[Trixie Mattel]

I called my brother, who was like, a rather probably conservative libertarian, and I said, I think he should see Beyonce.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And he's, like, hung up on you.

[Trixie Mattel]

Pro America in like, a woke. But not make you feel bad about it Woke way, like, just good. It encouraged me to imagine a reality that America could use its power for good.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well, howdy fucking duty.

[Trixie Mattel]

It was beautiful. I was, like, crying.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well, like, it sounds like she in. In one fell swoop, in about three hours, did more for the American economy and public than the whole White House legislative branch and all the branches have been doing.

[Trixie Mattel]

She talked. She Talked for maybe 60 seconds the entire show. There was almost no talk.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And instilled more hope in the. In the people, thousands of people, than any president could.

[Trixie Mattel]

It was so amazing.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Hunt.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, my God, everybody. Orville Peck is calling.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Another American singer.

[Trixie Mattel]

Leave me alone. Fake. Let's see. Let's see if he'll pick up.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I wish we could talk about. I'm going to. I'm going to tease the listener right now in such an obnoxious way.

[Trixie Mattel]

Hello? Hello?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, there ain't no other way. Are you doing drag, you faggot? Yes, bitch. Wake up. Wake up.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, my God. That we. We haven't talked about New York.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That's what I wanted to say.

[Trixie Mattel]

We were just about to talk about. Congratulations on camera. It's so crazy.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You called on the line right now. MC of Cabaret on Broadway in New York City. How are you feeling? How's the show? How's the show going? The show is going great. I really marvel at the fact that I constantly seem to call when you're taping this podcast.

[Trixie Mattel]

I. I just was talking about Cowboy Carter making me hopeful for America. But we saw your incredibly powerful program, Cabaret, which made me feel like I need to flee to the center of the earth.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. It didn't make me hopeful for Germany.

[Trixie Mattel]

It was so moving. You were amazing. We were blown away and I was.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I gotta say, you, you, you. It was an unpredictable quality of. I don't know how to describe it. Like, butchness, even. Like, you were. And there were certain parts where surprisingly, like, I'm. What's a better word for butch? Like, like hard edged, like scary, manly kind of thing. I don't know.

[Trixie Mattel]

You were scary.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, that. That money. Was it money when the. What was the song with the black fucking. Yeah, honey, that costume was cunt, dad. No, like, that costume. Genuinely. I feel like I have dumb drag now. Like, that is those nails.

[Trixie Mattel]

I feel like I want to get.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Like 6 inch acrylic nails permanently on my fingers after this. Yes, you should. And get 3 inch toenails too. Thank you all so much for coming. That meant so much to me.

[Trixie Mattel]

It was so incredible. It was. You were amazing. It was like one of the best. We've seen it twice now. We. We really favored yours, mama.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Let me tell you that. The. The length, the production, the layout, everything was much. I mean, that London show was.

[Trixie Mattel]

Shut up. And I loved all your makeup and you looked so handsome. I mean, look hot.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And we got to see your rear end. Almost a little bit of butthole. Well, the world's seen most of it anyway, so, you know. Really?

[Trixie Mattel]

That's a good point. It was scary to see you be evil.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, I. It was very natural. I. I know that. Yeah. How many shows have you done so far? Tonight is my 44th show. Are you kidding me?

[Trixie Mattel]

We performed 100 shows in a year once, and we still talk about it like we were in Vietnam.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. Like we. It's crazy. I can't believe it's gone. I can't believe it. I can't believe I've done this 44 times. That's crazy. Do you do two in a day? On Sundays, yeah, I do eight a week. So on Wednesdays and Saturday, I do two.

[Trixie Mattel]

We have to hang out.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, we gotta go.

[Trixie Mattel]

We can't support this lifestyle.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I'll talk to you later.

[Trixie Mattel]

Love you. Bye.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Also, I want to tease something. I want to just antagonize the listeners. Sometimes we do Netflix. We, like, watch a program and then famously, let's. The Electric State, for example. We're, like, surprised by one of the stars that I didn't know who they were. You know, sometimes it's cool, sometimes it's whatever. And. And we received a video from someone that. It just really. It honestly made my day. And that kind of shit, that kind of corny bullshit never does. But this really turned. I mean, I. I showed that video to my parents. I showed that video to everybody who would look at it. The homeless man pissing on the bushes outside my house. The contractor who doesn't speak English. Yeah, everybody.

[Trixie Mattel]

I saw you running down Hollywood Boulevard, stopping people.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. Caked in shit from the waist down.

[Trixie Mattel]

Um, that's all.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And I'm not going to say who.

[Trixie Mattel]

Because we can't say it, but it'll be awesome.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's. It's tea.

[Trixie Mattel]

Nick, did we talk about Cabaret already?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, we didn't talk about New York at all.

[Trixie Mattel]

Okay. Katie and I, we talk about your Mary. Mary. Okay. Oh, Mary. The most nominated musical on Broadway for the Tonys. Cole, you better work, you fucking whore.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Call that motherfucking bitch. They are going to win a Tony.

[Trixie Mattel]

That was the funniest thing I've ever seen on stage in my life.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

100%. No question, no contest.

[Trixie Mattel]

I laughed out loud the whole time. Also, can I say not to be like, a little alky girl. Not to be like, boofing a skybox tambourung. But they have a drink called the Paint Thinner. That's three shots because there's no intermission. So you get three shots and a drink to be able to love.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Okay. Love that.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well, let me tell you something about runtime. This is something that is always on the. Always on my mind. Always on my mind. The runtime of this show is. It's just a perfect show. 85 minutes. I think it was 80.

[Trixie Mattel]

Feels like 15.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Sweetie, never for one moment does your attention wander. Never for one moment do you even think. I wonder what time it is. You're never.

[Trixie Mattel]

It was the funniest thing I've ever seen.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It was so good. And they are. Cole is such a. Oh, I still think about.

[Trixie Mattel]

There's this running joke in the show I don't think I'm giving away because they have merch of it, I think, where every time she talks to the painting of George Washington, she says, oh, mother, that is so funny.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

There's a recurring gag about, like, we're at war with the South. She goes, the south of what?

[Trixie Mattel]

It's just so, so funny also.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, she's.

[Trixie Mattel]

And then she keeps talking about her performances in her cabaret. She says, you love my madcap medleys. That shit is so funny now. When I'm DJing, I'm like, I'm going to do my madcap medleys.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And then plot twist. Those madcap medleys come to fruition at the end. And it's so. It's so bananas and even, like, I won't give it away, but the last part is on paper is so ridiculous. You're like, that can't really be.

[Trixie Mattel]

The end of it is so crazy.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

But it's so beautifully lit. And Cole is just a genius. And I love them so much.

[Trixie Mattel]

Every man in that show is fuckable.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I'm talking to you, James Scully. I would suck the shit out of your colon.

[Trixie Mattel]

I'm sitting here jerking it to Abraham Lincoln.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Huh?

[Trixie Mattel]

In this economy.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Thank you.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's. I mean, it was a wonderful little.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

The. The thing at the end with the. The. You know that.

[Trixie Mattel]

The shooting that happened at the theater.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yes.

[Trixie Mattel]

Well, there was no shooting at our theater. But in the play.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Lincoln gets shot at a theater. Nobody's in danger at. O Mary.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yes. We don't mean to sound, but that whole. It was just so tight, so crisp, so well directed, so well acted. Everybody deserves everything in the world that can be given on Broadway. So funny, so funny.

[Trixie Mattel]

The giant. And these giant hoop skirts.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, my God. The Cole's has a very broad, expressive register that is just like. I love them so much.

[Trixie Mattel]

One minute they're all happy, the next minute the character screaming, angry. So unpredictable on a dime. And it makes you immediately be like, wow. I mean, it opens with Abe Lincoln basically telling the audience terrified of his own wife. And so then you're like, what the fuck is happening? And Cole goes by. They. Obviously, the character Mary, is she Alcoholic. Crazy. Wants to do cabaret.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Alcoholic cabaret. Sorry. And then.

[Trixie Mattel]

Which, by the way, when is Jake's gonna sue for the rights to her life?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Hello. Abraham Lincoln gets a blowjob under his desk From. There were some wonderful theatrical moments that were, like, true.

[Trixie Mattel]

Right.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You know, like surprises. I was like. I was like. I looked to my left and I looked to my right.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

But, you know, the guy next to.

[Trixie Mattel]

Me was like, what?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You know what, though? Big A great mama. If you're Frederica Bimmel, you're gonna have a hard time in that seat.

[Trixie Mattel]

What are you talking about who's Frederica Bimmel?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

A great big fat person.

[Trixie Mattel]

They were narrow seats, mama.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I, I, I, I immediately like was texting with a friend who's fat and, and she's like, I would, but girl, I can't sit in those seats. Yeah, it sucks. Cause I mean, I am a five' ten or five' nine, 165, tiny little girl. And I was on top of, Basically we were doing like, you know, a human chain.

[Trixie Mattel]

No, really.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And I'm not joking. And it was like, why can't they just widen them seats a little bit?

[Trixie Mattel]

I know.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Like, fat people can't enjoy old Mary.

[Trixie Mattel]

Well, every time I go to Omair from now on, I'm gonna bring a nail file, an emery board, and just shave down the sides a little bit. Do my part.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Thank you. Well, you know what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna buy the whole row and I'm going to just. I don't know what I'm.

[Trixie Mattel]

Well, when I used to work in Provincetown at the Post Office Theater, which is kind of like Broadway when you think about it. When you really think about it, if.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You really take the time to think.

[Trixie Mattel]

About it, when you kind of think about it, obviously.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Wait, wait.

[Trixie Mattel]

But the chairs were pews.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Pews.

[Trixie Mattel]

And so during a normal show, I think we could fit 110 bear week during bear week 11. And I love the bears, but it was like, these are pews. And y' all sit like this and you'll have three boyfriends. So there's nowhere to sit in here.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Pour one out for the fatties and give some room.

[Trixie Mattel]

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[Katya Zamolodchikova]

When you Google Frederika Bimmel, more comes up from Katya than actual Silence of the Lambs. Boo.

[Trixie Mattel]

You're welcome. Flop movie that you put on the map.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. Jonathan Demme, flop. Nobody ever heard of her.

[Trixie Mattel]

Nobody heard of her. It was called the Silence of the Lambs because critics would not talk about it. Yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She never won an Oscar. Never could win an Oscar. Oops. She did win three Oscars, which is.

[Trixie Mattel]

You know, it bothers me when people say that's their favorite horror movie. I'm like, that's not a horror movie.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's a psychological thriller.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah. It's not a horror movie.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well. Well, I'll stop you right there because there was a very graphic sequence in which two men were brutally murdered. One was flayed and splayed displayed, his face ripped off and then. You know what I mean, eaten. There were horrific elements. It was.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah. I just. It feels a little.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It wasn't like Basic Instinct. That's not a horror movie. That's a psychological thriller.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah. But it's not a psychological horror.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Like.

[Trixie Mattel]

Like, Smile was almost a psychological horror.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Smile's horror, I think.

[Trixie Mattel]

Right. But like, is she crazy? She's having. Is she having hallucinations? It's sort of that. It's the feeling of everyone around you saying you're crazy.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Which is psychological.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

My. It's my life.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's your life.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. Did you like Smile, too? I love Smile, too, girl.

[Trixie Mattel]

That was the best depiction of a famous person in a movie I've ever seen.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

A hundred percent in. The music was believable. The choreo that, like, everything about it was. It wasn't corny.

[Trixie Mattel]

The outfits.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It was really hard.

[Trixie Mattel]

She seemed like a real. The isolation of being a famous person and being stalked by the Smile monster.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It was very believable. Naomi Scott tore that shit up.

[Trixie Mattel]

She was really incredible. So she was wonderful.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She did a great. She was Smile.

[Trixie Mattel]

And I'm going to do a version of Smile. But I said, they're doing this.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

There is in the. In the studio, the new comedy with Seth Rogen about Hollywood. There's they. They do a ripoff called Wink Wink. Yeah, Like, Smile Like Love. But they have the same. Oh, I just spit on you. Have you watched that show?

[Trixie Mattel]

No.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's good. You might like it.

[Trixie Mattel]

Maybe I will. I'm watching the rehearsal right now.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Mary.

[Trixie Mattel]

The season two is Out.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I heard it's even crazier than the.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's crazier.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I can't wait to.

[Trixie Mattel]

It has to do with airplanes going down.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, my God, I'm hard already.

[Trixie Mattel]

He's. He says that he's done a lot of research on why planes go down. And. And most of the crashes have to do with pilot and co pilot.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Communication and miscommunication. Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

So he's trying to solve the problem of why don't these pilots communicate as the plane is going down? One of them goes, you need to pull up. We're gonna crash. And the other one goes, no, we're not. And then they just crash.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well, you have a man and woman, Mars and Venus.

[Trixie Mattel]

Well, they're saying that the. There's. I don't know what. There's the pilot that's in charge, the chief, the leader.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Captain.

[Trixie Mattel]

Captain, sure. And then there's the assistant stewardess. No, like the other pilot.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Co pilot.

[Trixie Mattel]

The other pilot is supposed to have the power to go, no, this isn't a safe landing. I'm denying you the privileges. And they're supposed to be.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Whatever. They have veto power.

[Trixie Mattel]

But if they use that, they're saying that pilots say things like, you're never going to work in the city again. You embarrassed me by calling my landing into question. And then planes fucking crash. And they have recordings of them being like, I don't think we should land. And then one of them was like, shut up, but you'll never work in flying again.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And it's all recorded.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yes, they have real recordings. He has the transcripts and hires actors to act them out. It's so crazy. Nathan Fielder.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Love him.

[Trixie Mattel]

Boundless, fearless, with all the gall in the world.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. All he has. There is a shortage of gumption because he is, like, stocked up.

[Trixie Mattel]

She is so fierce.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, it's so. I love that grandson picture.

[Trixie Mattel]

So we saw. We went to Cabaret. Yeah, it was. It was like a preview night. Friends of.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, no, it was. They had done it. They've been doing it for a week. It was a gala.

[Trixie Mattel]

Why were we invited?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It was a gala. It was like a. I was a. It was a celebration, but obviously it.

[Trixie Mattel]

Seemed like it was.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

They had been doing it for a little while because you don't want to have the gala on the first night because.

[Trixie Mattel]

But me and you and Brittany and John Waters. John Waters. It felt like that was the night for the Dolls.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Reynolds. Yeah, it was. It was like a. It was a gala. It was like a party.

[Trixie Mattel]

I guess I thought it was some kind of press night or something. Cause why were we all invited that night?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Because it was like, they do that like a gal.

[Trixie Mattel]

Okay. I didn't really understand how that worked.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's like, come on, famous people, right? I mean, do you. Do you realize that every single megawatt a list has seen Omari?

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Steven Spielberg, Sally Fields, Calista. Oh, my God, Calista flies. So backstage. We got to go canoodle backstage in this lovely, just petite woman introduced herself. I said, hi, I'm Brian. She said, hi, I'm Calista. And I turned to my nose turned back like in Smile. I was Ally McBeal.

[Trixie Mattel]

No, you went, that's Kalista Flockhart. I went, yeah, she said that?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, she like you.

[Trixie Mattel]

You took a whole 60 seconds to accept it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She said, calista. She didn't say Calista. Hi, I'm Calista Flockhart, former star of Ally McBeal.

[Trixie Mattel]

They told me she was in you back there. I thought they told you too.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, they don't tell me nothing.

[Trixie Mattel]

You were like, that's cholesterol.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I was like.

[Trixie Mattel]

And I was like, yeah, she said that.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She was so sweet. She was just so quiet.

[Trixie Mattel]

She was. She really was.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Did we get to meet?

[Trixie Mattel]

I sent the girls some. A care package of Trixie cosmetics. I was like, you guys really put the blush on in this show.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Let's hook the girls up.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. You dogs could use some paint. Yeah. Did you really?

[Trixie Mattel]

And this stunning woman, Bianca, who plays her? Her. I forget the character's name.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Her. I don't remember either. Is it her? Her teacher? Her nurse?

[Trixie Mattel]

The woman trying to, like, teach her to embroider.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. Like her, like LA In Waiting or something.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah, she was so funny.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Everybody was so.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, sorry. We were at Chicago. It was me. You. Where was New York?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

New York.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, I was in New York.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

At Cabaret.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

No one's in Chicago.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Somebody was. We just don't know about that.

[Trixie Mattel]

I just travel a lot. I'm everywhere. So we're there. And it was a wonderful program. Orville was. I mean, obviously I know he can sing, and obviously I know he has a background in musical.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I had no idea.

[Trixie Mattel]

It was balls to the wall. It was amazing.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, it was cool.

[Trixie Mattel]

Scary, sad. That musical is sad.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I know. It was. It's always great to see, like. Cause I'm a huge fan of the movie 89 minutes. Cunt. And anything Bob Fosse makes, obviously. But, like, the. The production we saw in London was so bizarrely paced. It was good. I mean, everybody's super talented, but, like.

[Trixie Mattel]

It was the Odyssey.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It was two hours before intermission. They would take an intermission, come back and have 10 minutes, something crazy like that.

[Trixie Mattel]

It was longer. You and I went to the New York one. I was warning people. I went with being like, it's long. Just, you know, it's long.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I was like. I was like. I was looking for the exits. I was strategizing because you're kind of involved a little bit. Like, you're very there.

[Trixie Mattel]

We're there, which is over.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

John Waters, Chapel. Chapel Roan, who introduced herself to me, that was. I thought she was a fan of Chapel Roan.

[Trixie Mattel]

Right.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I thought she was, like, literally, like a drag queen. Chapel Roan girl. So funny.

[Trixie Mattel]

Marcia's in the production.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Marcia times three.

[Trixie Mattel]

Doing face kicks and jumps and.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, honey, let's talk about the physical prowess of the fucking ensemble and the makeup. Hot bodies doing erotic shit. Great. Orville showed his whole butt. It's a really sexy show.

[Trixie Mattel]

Also, I realized you and I know what Orville looks like. Obviously, it was probably really exciting for people to see his face.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I mean, come on. His mask is, like, two inches.

[Trixie Mattel]

I know. At this point, it's a Listerine strip on his forehead.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's like. It's like Clark Kent with the glasses at this point, you know? But it's like. It's like that. You remember the part of Batman when the Joker's the nurse and Harvey Dent's in the hospital, and she takes the face mask down and then he freaks out, can tell that it was the Joker. That is hysterical. Isn't that funny?

[Trixie Mattel]

It is funny. I didn't laugh as hard as you did, but it is funny. Heath Ledger.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She ate to Mama Rip.

[Trixie Mattel]

She really ate.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She did. Those Olson twins, they'll pay. Just kidding. They're not responsible.

[Trixie Mattel]

Cabaret was amazing. Omari was amazing.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, Mary was the best thing. If you have any resources or ability to go to New York and Broadway and see oh, Mary, I would skip every other thing, including, like, immediate family, funerals, anything.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, Mary was best thing I ever saw.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And I've seen a lot.

[Trixie Mattel]

It was an embarrassment of talent.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

And you gotta remember that Cole's starring in it and wrote it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Wrote it.

[Trixie Mattel]

And you're like, what?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. And they were. They had started Off Broadway. Andrew Yang designed the prototype for the dress.

[Trixie Mattel]

Wow.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Isn't that kind.

[Trixie Mattel]

That makes sense.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Kind of looks like an Andrew dress.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, he. Andrew made the whole. He made the thing that. I think Cole wore it in the Off Broadway. And then, of course, like, the union customers, like, made the version that they. But yeah, this. It was cool. Yeah. I love every. Cole's been in the studio a few times, and every time, I love that person so much.

[Trixie Mattel]

Did you know that after Abe Lincoln.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Died, Mary Todd went les.

[Trixie Mattel]

She hired a bunch of psychics trying to communicate with him.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Really?

[Trixie Mattel]

She was wacky.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She was.

[Trixie Mattel]

In Lexington, Kentucky, there's a Mary Todd Lincoln house that you can go visit, Like a museum.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Someone say Mary Odd Lincoln.

[Trixie Mattel]

I saw on a program that Cole said that they did basically no research.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

None, Love. None.

[Trixie Mattel]

That's like me writing a history paper or something.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And guess what? Steven Spielberg and Sally Field show up, the director and star of Lincoln the folk. Isn't that amazing?

[Trixie Mattel]

The truth doesn't matter.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, no, no, not at all. I say forget rather than learn. You know, I went to the Comme des Garcons.

[Trixie Mattel]

Comme.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Uh, huh.

[Trixie Mattel]

Uh, Comme Day. It's Comme Day, Garcon.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's Comme Day. But you know what's funny? Like, they were talking about counterfeit merchandise in the store, and I said, oh, so it's like, comme, Comme des Garcons, right? Isn't that funny?

[Trixie Mattel]

Counterfeit merchant.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Like, there's a lot of counterfeit, like, fake Versace.

[Trixie Mattel]

Okay.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

So it'd be like, come, come dig ourselves. Like, Like.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, I see. Friends. Why did you went to a program?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, I went to their spaceship store and demonstrated one of my most admirable behaviors, which is facing financial ruin buying things that I can't afford. Like in the.

[Trixie Mattel]

Did you buy stuff?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I did.

[Trixie Mattel]

So how did you face this?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well, I was. I said, oh, you know, my house is crumbling, and I'm gonna have to empty my savings to pay for all this stuff. Why don't I buy, like, a really expensive jacket, shoes, and a wallet?

[Trixie Mattel]

So we're applauding you for doing this?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, I think we should punish me.

[Trixie Mattel]

I was gonna say you faced your fear. Of what, defaulting financially?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, I just indulged myself in a horrible behavior, and I want you to spank my bum.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Do you ever do that?

[Trixie Mattel]

After everything we know about you, that.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You lost control and made a bad decision. Oh. But can I update you on the. The. The state of my flop house?

[Trixie Mattel]

I wish you would. What's going on with your flop house?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

The sun's coming out tomorrow, Annie.

[Trixie Mattel]

In what way?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Little girls. Little girl? I, I.

[Trixie Mattel]

What about a production of Annie where it's Annie Wilkes?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Love that.

[Trixie Mattel]

The cockadoody sun will come out tomorrow.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Hobbling a hobbling like, dance number. Oh, my God. I love it when he fucking eat it. Takes the charge script and fucking. Oh, I love that. That last fight is so cunt.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's cunt.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's cut. So I made. So I'm not an interior designer, right? And I realized that in this process of trying to choose materials to like. Because they gutted the house, like, they gutted many rooms. This is so fascinating. I know everybody's falling asleep, but I have to choose, like, what kind of floor, what kind of dirt in the bathroom. And I realized very quickly that interior design is a job for a reason. Because it's quite difficult.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's hard. So many options.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

So many options. I've looked at every tile. I looked at every wallpaper. But I made a decision. They bought these tiles. And at the last moment, I was like, wait, no, Khalil, no. And yeah. And I said I changed it. And thank God, because it came out great.

[Trixie Mattel]

Thank God.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Really? I would have had.

[Trixie Mattel]

The people at home have been following this segment, Mama.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

They have been writing it. The letters that I get every day, right? And then also, the bathroom's gonna be cunty. It's coming along. The cunt is visible.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's just nice to see you dumping money into a property that you own. Think of all the things you wanted to do to your rental. Remember?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Girl, do you know the quote I got for painting my. One of the apartments I had from this?

[Trixie Mattel]

Did you say white man?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I did.

[Trixie Mattel]

We're whispering white man.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well, it's no. It's no mystery that the white men.

[Trixie Mattel]

Could take a kick.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay, well, it's like. It was crazy that, like, this. I don't know, this white dude, he was like. I mean, is it indelicate to say that most of the construction happening in Los Angeles is done by Hispanic folk?

[Trixie Mattel]

I don't know.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It could be indelicate. But this. This white man. This cracker quoted me, like, $7,000 for this, like, relatively simple paint shop. And I'm like, why? Because you're white?

[Trixie Mattel]

It was LA Pedicure here.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's crazy. You know, I'm gonna paint myself. I'm gonna hire some friends or.

[Trixie Mattel]

Don't do that.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, no, no. I can't paint a bathroom wall.

[Trixie Mattel]

Just get someone, girl.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay, I'll get the.

[Trixie Mattel]

You're not as good at painting as you think you are. Mama, let someone do it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That really hurt me.

[Trixie Mattel]

You can't be everything. You can barely put makeup on, bitch. You can do bathrooms. Get out of your mind.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I think I need a Moment. Let's take a break.

[Trixie Mattel]

Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I don't know if you knew this but anyone can get the same Premium Wireless for $15 a month plan that I've been enjoying.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's not just for celebrities. So do like I did and have one of your assistant's assistants switch you.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

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[Trixie Mattel]

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[Katya Zamolodchikova]

What else do I say?

[Trixie Mattel]

I feel like a good interior designer will do something that I appreciate, which is hey, I, I know what you want. Here's the expensive version, here's the medium and the cheap version. Here's the version of it that can get here quickest. Here's the version that takes the longest.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You're really just well that's the helping.

[Trixie Mattel]

You make those decisions.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

There's because the, the choice is just the first hurdle. Then the is it in stock and then is it how much? How much is it? That's what I was like faced with because there's so many options. Mary had this marble in mind that was like going to cost eight grand for one room. I said no ma' am. I changed something to $900.

[Trixie Mattel]

The kitchen?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, bedroom.

[Trixie Mattel]

You were going to get marble on the walls?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, on the floor.

[Trixie Mattel]

Marble floor. Are you a super villain?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I want to be one.

[Trixie Mattel]

Mr. Bigglesworth.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. Mr. Jigglesworth. Yeah. No, in the. In the main bath. The main bath has tons of tiles and was going to do marble. I was like, because it looks so beautiful. I was like, marble. $20 a tile or $1.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's a lot.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's crazy.

[Trixie Mattel]

Also, the synthetic marbles can be pretty good. They just, in natural light, aren't going to look as good as, you know.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

But they're more durable and they're easy to replace. So, like, I don't know. It depends what you plan on doing in there.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I got a lovely black penny mosaic glass, and I love it.

[Trixie Mattel]

You're going to have to do the rest of the house. You can't have, like, two cunty rooms because of black mold.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Of course I am.

[Trixie Mattel]

You have to go off on the rest of it now.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I know. I know. And I have that. I. I'm emotionally prepared for that.

[Trixie Mattel]

This will be like, oh, we're gonna have sex, but I'm only gonna twist the nipples.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, yeah, but do you realize it know? So I'm striking a balance between, like, what I want and, like, and what's. What would be acceptable for the average human being. That downstairs powder room, baby, it's going to be acceptable only to me. I'm going full ham hock crazy.

[Trixie Mattel]

Can I say? I know it's unpopular, but all my properties that I own look fucking crazy. Like, I was thinking of selling my house, you know, after David and I separated, and I was like, God, no one's gonna want this crazy fucking house.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And thank God, but then it's yours.

[Trixie Mattel]

Do we live for the person who's gonna live there after us?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No.

[Trixie Mattel]

Fuck up your house.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Fuck them. You think you're gonna find a white toilet in my house, baby?

[Trixie Mattel]

No.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Think again. Black. Oh, that's another thing I want to just mention. So as we were dry, as I was driving to the studio today, you better believe I was pumping. I was pumping it up to the masters of my little soon to be released EP or whatever.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, how soon? How long do they have to wait?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I don't know. I'm not really sure.

[Trixie Mattel]

Can we hear a preview? Is that legal?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I wish. I really want to do it. I mean, it's so kind.

[Trixie Mattel]

I'm gonna yell. You're an independent artist. Who's gonna yell at you?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, it's my song.

[Trixie Mattel]

I always am. Like, what if someone's mad at me. Like, who's gonna be mad at me? I know Sometimes on the YouTube channel, I'll be like, we have a product coming out. I'm scared. I'm scared to mention it. Who's gonna yell at me?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Abraham Lincoln.

[Trixie Mattel]

Well, I am afraid somebody who's in marketing from the team is gonna be like, so we just do whatever.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay. Which one do I want? Okay. I think people have heard black diarrhea, so I'm gonna. So I did a cover of the Electric Hellfire Club song called Slaughter of Elysium from the album Kiss the Goat. Very satanic. Yeah, yeah, Huge. It's a big.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's right up there with like, hey, Mickey.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I think it was like a number one for like several years.

[Trixie Mattel]

I heard it in a pacemaker commercial.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, it's satanic, very dark. But their version is very muddy. The production value is kind of wacky. So I'm going to play this. Let's see.

[Trixie Mattel]

Is that you? Is that you? That's actually really slay.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, we did tons of vote. I mean, it's a lot of vocal.

[Trixie Mattel]

Were you in there screaming?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

So me. That was. That was me and Ashley, she. There's this. The crescendo is throw the fucking Christians to the lions. And then Ash does this scream that goes. It screams. That is so. It's like a Haley's comet. It's so cunt. Wait, I don't play it. I'm gonna play it.

[Trixie Mattel]

That is so. Oh, by the way, Ash Gordon, one of the co writers of Drag the musical, the most nominated off Broadway musical of the year. Congrats to Dragon pouring out for Drag the musical in Alaska. The producer pouring out for Alaska.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Wait, can I play it? Is that okay?

[Trixie Mattel]

I.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's only your song.

[Trixie Mattel]

I mean, who's going to yell at you? Wow. I don't have a lot of experience in that type of music.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That. That was her. It was all her. She almost ruined her voice that day. She. She pumped it up.

[Trixie Mattel]

She's crazy.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

She'll go for it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's. I think if they're still alive, the. The creators of the. The band would appreciate it that, you know. I really do. I really do. I really think they would like it.

[Trixie Mattel]

I've done some covers. And you don't do it because you hope it'll get back. No, but. No, you always wonder.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I also have a cover of the most famous Russian song ever recorded. You think they're going to love that? No, baby, I'll probably get nuked.

[Trixie Mattel]

Beyonce. They're going to be like, there's an artist covering you. It's Katya, I guess she's doing Crazy in Love.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I mean, it's like, it's. It's like literally worse than that. Imagine Madonna plus Cher plus Barbra Streisand. That's Alla Pugacheva. She's like by far the most like.

[Trixie Mattel]

And you're her. And you're her protege.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I am the worst.

[Trixie Mattel]

The worst person. The worst person.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I don't think anybody's ever dared to cover that song.

[Trixie Mattel]

Is it like. Is it like. It's all coming back to me now, like a mega singing song.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's a torch song. It's a torched ballad. Yeah. No, no, no. It's. It's kind. It's like super dark and like it's like we did. It's the. It's alien microphone with. With diarrhea in it.

[Trixie Mattel]

I would say that your music sounds like torch music. Sounds like someone's on fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Slaughter. I had a. I watched a lot of those. Yeah. We crucifixes overturned synagogues and churches burned. A new religion based on ultra violence. We will build a new tradition and throw the Christians to the lions.

[Trixie Mattel]

Mary, you are begging to end up on Fox News.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I can't wait. I'm hoping. I need free press.

[Trixie Mattel]

Laura Ingram is coming for that ass.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. And Tommy Lauren's going to be like.

[Trixie Mattel]

You'Re coming for that.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Candace Owens got it. She's got my back, though.

[Trixie Mattel]

I feel, you know, I'm obsessed with the news and I feel like it's my responsibility to keep you abreast.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay. What's going on?

[Trixie Mattel]

Obviously all these tariffs are happening.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay.

[Trixie Mattel]

I don't know if you're aware that Donald Trump gave this comment that, like.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Mattel is the country.

[Trixie Mattel]

30 dolls. Maybe kids get two dolls this year. And I think that were the dolls that he's talking about, obviously.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Are these the dolls we're protecting?

[Trixie Mattel]

Like, because the cost of plastic and stuff being made overseas.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

They're like, instead of kids for Christmas receiving 30 dolls. By the way, I love fucking $30. Average kids get 30 dolls for Christmas.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's very Lucille Bluth coated. It's like it's one banana. Michael. What could it cost? $10?

[Trixie Mattel]

How hard do you hit your kids that you gotta buy them 30 toys?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

30 dolls for Christmas.

[Trixie Mattel]

30 dolls for Christmas. Nobody wants out of here.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

What is yourself about?

[Trixie Mattel]

These are already too big.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Now I got so many dolls to play with.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Girl, I Just can't. When I hear. When I think of Christmas and Trump's, I just think of Melania.

[Trixie Mattel]

This Christmas, I. Christmas. So kids today. So kids today won't get their Bentley.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

So. So you don't get 25 cars for your quinceanera.

[Trixie Mattel]

It makes me think of. Do you remember at my super sweet 16, that program on TV?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yes.

[Trixie Mattel]

Where kids would get, like, they wouldn't get the most current.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

They wouldn't get the Lamborghini, like.

[Trixie Mattel]

And they would cry on tv.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. They're like a Ferrari. Everybody has a Lamborghini.

[Trixie Mattel]

Right? Crazy.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

The ultra wealthy, what are they up to? Oh, my God. I was binging videos about the Burj Khalifa, the tower or the building in Dubai, the tallest one in the world. About, like, how they built it. And then this, like, this rich couple who, like, bought one of the first apartments on the, like, hundredth floor. It's so weird. Those rich people are so weird. They had all this art. I don't know. It's like. I don't know about that.

[Trixie Mattel]

I just don't know. But. And also, like, we're all different. We all have different experiences. Right. And I have learned as I got older that there's a lot of trauma and poverty. And I don't wish. I don't think growing up poor is virtuous. I don't think it makes you a better person.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No virtue in poverty.

[Trixie Mattel]

Because there's really rich people who are nice and there's poor people who are. There's no treasure in heaven for grownup rich, whatever. Or grow. But I do think if you've never been scared of rent, you've never been scared of not having a food, you've never been. Not able to go to the dentist because your tooth aches.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Or you've never made a decision solely contingent on lack of funds.

[Trixie Mattel]

100%. If you've never been calling drag clubs to say, can I just do a tip spot? If that doesn't.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Never looked for a coupon.

[Trixie Mattel]

Right. If you've never swept your apartment for loose change.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Then if you never be, let the people who have tell you what that's like. It's okay that you weren't also poor.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

I'm happy for you.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Why don't you let the woman who can't afford to feed her children tell you what that's like? Because she knows and you don't.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, you ugly bitch.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's like, why don't you let the black person tell you what it's like to be black in America.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, no, no.

[Trixie Mattel]

You don't know. You know, I. Maybe, you know, I don't know.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I mean, I grew up black. No. Would it.

[Trixie Mattel]

I just always think if the advantages of America is that we're all different and we learn from each other, but we refuse to believe each other about what it's like to be in that situation, then we are. We are reaping none of the benefits of a so called melting pot. Because it's like, what's it like? La la la la la. It's like. You don't know.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I can't hear you. I'm vacuuming. Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's like we are in the era of let them eat cake.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. That's the thing I don't like about it.

[Trixie Mattel]

So you can't have 30 dolls.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, so. So I don't give you a Bentley on Labor Day.

[Trixie Mattel]

And if we can't get people 30 dolls, then we're not protecting the dolls.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Thank you.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's circular.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Also. Protect the bricks.

[Trixie Mattel]

Protect the bricks, mama.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It ain't just about the. The fierce, beautiful girls. Every. All girls are valid, Right? Okay.

[Trixie Mattel]

Different experiences too. If this is what's happening with bathrooms now, you could go into a. I don't know. I mean, I think of like passing straight men or I think of passing trans men.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

They're all rapers.

[Trixie Mattel]

How odd is a woman gonna. A CIS woman gonna feel when some guy walks in and you're like, hello?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I mean, you know what I mean? I mean, we've talked about the bathroom thing before. My issue with bathroom has nothing to do with gender. It has to do with blowing ass with the fucking door open. It has to do with disgusting filth. It has to do with the wretched rottenness of the human body and its excretion process.

[Trixie Mattel]

These straight men. It's straight men blowing ass and groaning.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Groaning. With last week's New York Times folded out over like they're. They have set up shop. There's a little space heater TV that's.

[Trixie Mattel]

Like they're ice fishing Mary.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And it's like I'm in the next stall, which I've waited patiently for. So sitting shy. No, so pee shy. Trying to blast music on my headphones. And I'm so uncomfortable because I just need privacy. I don't want anybody rhyming my peeing. It's like, ugh.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's deep and dark.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's hard. Literally.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's wild. I know this is. I know we have to go, but I have one more thing to share.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

With you before you do That I need to just say one thing. I have never beaten anybody up. And I'm. And I'm pretty sure I thank you for saying no. I'm pretty sure. In fact, I'm. I'm quite sure that I will never. If I will never beat the shit out of someone. Okay. And I probably won't if I'm in my right mind, never scream at someone's face or push them off a cliff or shoot them with a gun or be violent. Violence is not a part of my.

[Trixie Mattel]

Me neither.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I'm not. So why can't that be everybody's tea?

[Trixie Mattel]

I don't.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Why can't that be everybody's tea?

[Trixie Mattel]

I don't act. Can I tell you, I watch a lot of Twitter videos that are like, unbelievable. I follow truly, like, Twitter accounts that, like, your aunt follows to watch videos on the toilet.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Sure, sure.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's like fights and car crashes. I don't know what's wrong with me.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You're human.

[Trixie Mattel]

People go to violence quickly.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. Especially in the car. Do you see the woman sprayed shit over the hood?

[Trixie Mattel]

That's not violent.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, that's just that, that's funky. That's eccentricity.

[Trixie Mattel]

What do you think about the people who like poop being like, oh, do you want to paint my dick?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I think that that's a kink.

[Trixie Mattel]

Right?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

But that's not violence.

[Trixie Mattel]

That's not violence either.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That's what I'm saying. No, that's a kink. But inflicting. Inflicting pain on purpose with malicious intent. Mama, that is so tired and corny. We gotta leave it behind.

[Trixie Mattel]

But if you're ready, if you're willing to squat on a car and shit, imagine the grip. Imagine.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Imagine the drip.

[Trixie Mattel]

Imagine the drip. So you and I are friends of the LA LGBT Center?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yes, we are.

[Trixie Mattel]

Shout out to theirs.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I've given a dollar or two and.

[Trixie Mattel]

I follow them on Instagram and they keep me abreast. And this is for more for the LA county. But I think if the universe is thinking of LA as like 100 homosexual, which they are, and this is what's been happening in L. A, it's breaking. Louisiana county gutting HIV prevention funding ahead of federal decisions Los Angeles County's decision to eliminate HIV prevention services now is a direct threat to public health. It will fuel a surge of new HIV transmissions, deepen existing health disparities, and saddle the county with far greater long term costs.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Thank God, because I wanted to go back to the 80s so bad. Not just with fashion.

[Trixie Mattel]

I know with AIDS, it's so sad. It makes me think of these youngest gay people who will have less education. Whatever. You're basically creating. You're deciding that it's okay to allow the petri dish of Los Angeles to proliferate more cases of hiv. And obviously it's not a death sentence anymore.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No.

[Trixie Mattel]

But I don't think anybody would check a box saying, I would love to have to deal with extra doctor trips. We know.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

But the LGBT center does a lot. And I have love them. I have known people who are. Who not have a house. And the LGBT center hooks them up with housing. Yeah, that's like. That's like a life changing process. That's like a life changing surface. That's life or death. I.

[Trixie Mattel]

We both love them.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

So flop. This country is so flop in so many ways.

[Trixie Mattel]

Well, because LA is so wrought with homelessness and queer people are so much more likely to be homeless. LA LGBT center does a lot of work for just homeless people.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yes.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yes, you can.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

If you're unhoused and you want to find housing, the LGBT center can help you.

[Trixie Mattel]

They can help you, and they can help you with so many things. Transitions. If you feel threatened at work about, like, maybe you're being fired, you don't know what to do because you probably, you know, it's a lot easier to fire people for being gay than it was.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

They'll cut your bangs. Don't do it yourself. Well, I think in a side ponytail is a must.

[Trixie Mattel]

A must.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. You have to have that first before you go in the door.

[Trixie Mattel]

The LA LGBT center is doing free veneers, but the only Asia o' Hara kind. So they have to be dazzling.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Dazzling. Side ponytail.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yes. You need showgirl teeth. You need the side ponytail. And I.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And East Hollywood.

[Trixie Mattel]

East Hollywood lesbians are volunteering to pierce your septum.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yes. And you have to be able to recite three RuPaul, Instagram, TikToks, verbatim.

[Trixie Mattel]

Verbatim.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. Which one of you bitches is my mother?

[Trixie Mattel]

I love LA LGBT Center. They are. I do too. I believe it's the greatest. It's the biggest non profit LGBT nonprofit in the world.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I did a little thing for them. That's where I got to talk to Gwyneth Paltrow.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah. Love.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Love it.

[Trixie Mattel]

Well, you did talk to Gwyneth.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. Through Philip Picardi, who I believe moved to New York. I don't know. He was heavily involved in it. Yeah. I got. She said, you look so chic. I'll never forget.

[Trixie Mattel]

She said that to you?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She said that to my face. Because I did look very chic at the time.

[Trixie Mattel]

No, she said, are you Sikh? That's what she said.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Are you a chic?

[Trixie Mattel]

Right. Are you a sheep?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, she thought it was.

[Trixie Mattel]

Are you covered in sheep?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Saudi royal family members.

[Trixie Mattel]

Did you soil your sheep? Oh, well, it's time to go and visit Bob.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, we're gonna go visit Bob the drag Queen.

[Trixie Mattel]

We're gonna visit Bob. She's having no visitors.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You know, she's having. She's in one of her moods again.

[Trixie Mattel]

Well, she's healing up from just another little nip. And by the way, the way, the way Bob and Monet talk to each other on Twitter, I don't want us to ever be like that. They go so hard on each other. I don't start crying.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, I don't like that. Please don't.

[Trixie Mattel]

Bob tweeted a picture of Monet is like, she don't know the worst of this song. And look at her big hands. No, like, please, I don't want to be. No, I. Bob and Monet, please, please don't ever cut me.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I don't care if it's corny. We got to be little Susie Sunshine on Twitter.

[Trixie Mattel]

I would never retweet a picture of you and be like. And look at the Adam's apple, you pig. Like, that's them.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, please don't. I will never.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, I mean, I can't take it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I will face up you old. But in a positive light.

[Trixie Mattel]

But in a positive light. Bob, I love following Twitter because you're so funny. And we did say our congrats, New York Times best selling novelist baby Harriet.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Tubman live in concert.

[Trixie Mattel]

So Monet. Monet is doing Vogue.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

The number.

[Trixie Mattel]

So the audience is rapping like the, you know, Dietrich and the Mohe. Bob. Bob says, do you see how she gaslights the audience into believing they're the ones who don't know the lyrics when it is in fact her, Even though she had the lyrics written on a piece of paper in her giant hands. I don't want to be Boba Monet. No, they so much.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, I don't like that.

[Trixie Mattel]

In a fun way, but I still can't take that long.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, I can't either. I don't like roughhousing, like, verbally or physically. We're not doing that.

[Trixie Mattel]

Thank you.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay. All right, goodbye, everybody.