Observational Cinematic Compulsion Disorder with Trixie and Katya

Summary

The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya

Episode: Observational Cinematic Compulsion Disorder with Trixie and Katya
Date: November 18, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Trixie Mattel and Katya Zamolodchikova dive into their signature blend of wild storytelling, razor-sharp observations, and hilarious introspection. The queens dish about the quirks of modern conventions, tales from their lives in drag, the allure and insanity of live-streaming culture, questionable psychic phenomena, their struggles and joys with home renovations, and a whole slew of pop culture moments—from DragCon disasters to B-52's concerts.

Their conversation meanders with purpose, each tangent revealing something both ridiculous and true about queer life, celebrity encounters, fandom, and the chaos of trying to find inner peace while surrounded by showbiz insanity.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Airline and Convention Grievances (02:40–07:00)

• Trixie and Katya rant about annoying airplane etiquette, especially elderly travelers opening window shades at dawn, and the frustrations of early morning flights.
  • "Old people suck. Sorry." — Katya (03:38)
• Joke about the bizarre European airline rule of opening shades for landing.
• Discussion of TwitchCon vs. DragCon and the stress of traveling for gigs.
• Katya recalls her grandmother’s hypervigilant sleep habits and connects it to generational anxieties.

2. Streaming and Internet Culture (07:00–16:30)

• Trixie explains Twitch and live streaming to Katya, who remains charmingly bewildered by the notion of broadcasting from home.
• Highlights from TwitchCon:
  • Drag showcase hosting duties (Trixie)
  • High production value and exceptional backstage accommodations.
  • Shoutouts to performers like Jax and streamer Bitch Pudding.
  • Anecdote about not recognizing other Drag Race queens ("I'm afraid to say hi to drag queens because I'm afraid I've met them or they were on Drag Race." — Trixie, 13:09)
• Katya expresses interest in ASMR streaming; Trixie admits she only enjoys “situational” ASMR, demonstrating their different tastes.

3. Psychics, TikTok Fads, and Fraudulent Mediums (16:30–23:00)

• The queens delight in watching Sylvia Browne psychic TikTok supercuts, mocking her fraudulent readings.
  • "He drowned, thank you." — Trixie channeling Sylvia Browne (07:45)
• Brief debate about legitimacy and techniques of mediums, with Katya calling out “hot reading” methods and Trixie reflecting on the psychological utility of Tarot as a mirror.
  • "I do believe in tapping into the intuitive self." — Trixie (09:18)
• Discussion of the “Long Island Medium” and the universal habit of finding meaning in general predictions.

4. Convention and DragCon Real Talk (23:11–33:38)

• Reflection on sensory overload at DragCon versus the calm atmosphere at TwitchCon.
• Accessibility and inclusivity in different convention environments.
• Humorous recollections of being ignored at larger events and realizing the realities of fame.
  • "I'm talking me walking through hordes of people, no one batting an eye. You're killing, straight fuck." — Trixie (24:33)
• Behind-the-scenes stories of meet-and-greets, exhaustion, politics about VIP lines and charging fans, and what they'd do differently now.
  • "Nine-hour meet and greet. No bathroom, no food, no water. When I got back to the hotel, my body just collapsed. Like I've never felt worse in my whole life." — Katya (30:26)
• Trixie explains the economics of DragCon participation and the necessity of selling merch to offset high booth costs.

5. Celebrity, Security, and Missed Connections (33:38–36:00)

• Anecdotes about body doubles, confusing fans and even friends by not being present at appearances.
• The surreal experience of hiring security or being carried through crowds.
• Brief tangent about embarrassing showbiz moments (ex: Jared Leto’s flop at an empty premiere).

6. Dramatic Home Life and Renovation Antics (51:00–55:31)

• Katya describes her colorful condo renovations, including the emotional drama of picking bold paint (yellow/goldenrod), getting runners on her stairs, and the gentle art of interior design.
• Inappropriate (and hilarious) stories about being caught during private moments by gardeners ("I was pressed up against the glass. That's how I whack it." — Katya, 52:39).
• Trixie gives practical advice on using removable wall adhesives and the importance of living for one's own happiness rather than future owners.

7. Pop Culture and Concert Fervor (47:00–63:28)

• Trixie sings the praises of the B-52s and Devo after seeing them at the Hollywood Bowl—describing going feral at concerts and the joy of seeing legendary bands.
  • "I want you to know that I go feral for the B-52s... You won't recognize the behaviors." — Trixie (59:23)
• Discussion on the time-warping power of music and the collective energy of mature, multi-era fandoms.
• Touch on Drag Race and RuPaul’s ever-expanding brand (“When you win Drag Race you get a yacht and move in with RuPaul.”—Trixie, 49:12).
• Future plans for their own “farewell” tour—mocking the concept of endless artist reunions.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On window shade etiquette and generational habits (03:38):
  • “Old people suck. Sorry.” – Katya
• On psychic fraud (07:45):
  • “He drowned, thank you.” – Trixie, mimicking Sylvia Browne
• On the DragCon meet-and-greet grind (30:26):
  • “Nine-hour meet and greet. No bathroom, no food, no water. When I got back to the hotel, my body just collapsed. Like I've never felt worse in my whole life.” – Katya
• On the realities of fame (24:33):
  • “I'm talking me walking through hordes of people, no one batting an eye. You're killing, straight fuck.” – Trixie
• On being mistaken for yourself (33:55):
  • “That night, my own friends from college were like, ‘Girl, come say hi, we saw you.’” – Trixie
• On ASMR and sensual boundaries (16:29):
  • “I love it when they're queefing.” – Katya
• On goldenrod walls and interior design (54:02):
  • “Yeah. I think it was called goldenrod. And it's autumn sunrise. I love it so much.” – Katya
• On concert euphoria (59:23):
  • “I want you to know that I go feral for the B-52s... You won't recognize the behaviors.” – Trixie

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Airline etiquette & convention gripes: 02:40–07:00
• Streaming culture, TwitchCon stories: 07:00–16:30
• Psychics & Tarot debates: 16:30–23:00
• Convention chaos & DragCon history: 23:11–33:38
• Celebrity encounters/security: 33:38–36:00
• Pop culture faves/B-52s/Devo concert: 47:00–63:28
• Home renovation chaos/condo life: 51:00–55:31

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Episode Takeaways

• Conventions are exhausting: Trixie and Katya provide a candid, humorous account of the realities of meet-and-greet culture, fandom, and celebrity misreadings.
• Streaming is the new stage: The rise of Twitch and similar platforms offers drag artists new, more accessible avenues for fandom, artistry, and connection.
• Pop culture stays weird: From Sylvia Browne TikToks to the cult of the B-52s, the queens find delight in the fringes of showbiz and their audiences.
• Queer life is creative chaos: Whether it’s navigating home renovations, shimmering in Y2K at TwitchCon, or discovering compassion through therapy, the queens embrace the mess and beauty of their world.

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For those who love Trixie and Katya’s off-kilter humor, razor wit, and raw honesty, this episode delivers a rollicking ride through fame, fandom, and the fabulous unpredictability of queer life.

Transcript

[Trixie Mattel]

Hey, Katya, you know what I love?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Jason Momoa on a bed of mashed potatoes.

[Trixie Mattel]

Nuts. I'm obsessed with nuts.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I know. I've seen your search history.

[Trixie Mattel]

No, you little idiot. I'm talking about the snack that pretends to be bad for you, but it isn't. I'm talking about wonderful pistachios.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well, slap my behind and call me Shirley. You're talking about wonderful pistachios? The don't hold back snack. Tell me more, oh, wise purveyor of nut facts.

[Trixie Mattel]

Well, it came in a package to my house, and each serving has 6 grams of protein. Plus, they're bold, flavorful, and just a little dangerous. You can get honey roasted, jalapeno lime chili roasted, or my favorite, which I tried this morning, dill pickle.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And as my great Aunt Olga used to say, wonderful pistachios bring the heat, the sweet, and everything in between.

[Trixie Mattel]

Plus, they come with shells or no shells for your snacking pleasure. I'm a no shells person. I can't have anything get in the way of me eating. I've got lashes to glue on. I got wigs to fluff. But if you like cracking them, I want you to live your nutcracking truth, honey.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Whether I'm backstage on the road or hiding in a wig closet with a bag in hand, wonderful pistachios are my go to. I love the flavor of them.

[Trixie Mattel]

I love them now.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, I love them, too.

[Trixie Mattel]

And when I'm in drag, I can't always sit and eat a whole meal. But sometimes I just need a little something.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

A little nut.

[Trixie Mattel]

And if I have a healthy option, I'm a lot more likely to eat that. Yeah. So don't hold back, dear listeners. Grab a bag of wonderful pistachios and snack like the stunning diva you are.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Visit wonderful pistachios.com to learn more.

[Trixie Mattel]

Again, that's wonderful. Full pistachios.com to learn More. Take it from us. We know our way around a bag of nuts.

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[Trixie Mattel]

And we're back. Wow.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

How are you?

[Trixie Mattel]

How are you? You better not ever run into either of the. They're going to be like, I know. I know about you.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I'm like, you. You fat. Not fat, but you bald.

[Trixie Mattel]

We were talking about flying in the last episode, and I have something that I have to get off my chest. And this is a message to all of you out there.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

What is it?

[Trixie Mattel]

What? I'm not ageist, okay?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Old people should not be driving.

[Trixie Mattel]

Stay. They stay at 6am, 5am on a flight, 7am with that window wide open with the sun.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

What?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

The.

[Trixie Mattel]

Reading the newspaper.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It is diabolical. It is diabolical.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's. Everybody is, like, tired. Flying tired. Yeah. Window open, watching a movie. It's window open, reading a Kindle.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's crazy. Old people suck. Sorry.

[Trixie Mattel]

They don't suck. But, like, close the window, look around. Use those.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Look around you.

[Trixie Mattel]

That cardi b clip where they can't use your eyes.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Are we having an altercation?

[Trixie Mattel]

We're having a debate. Like, I just. What is that for? Is that.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's from her court appearance, which I can't get enough of. It's so good.

[Trixie Mattel]

I. Close the window.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Close the window.

[Trixie Mattel]

Pouring it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I know, I know.

[Trixie Mattel]

You've been up since 3. This flight is huge for you.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well, my grandmother used to sleep with one foot on the floor.

[Trixie Mattel]

Why?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Like, always ready, hyper, vigilant. Like, she never slept at all, really.

[Trixie Mattel]

Vigilant. Thor.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Just life. Who knows what's gonna happen? Crazy. Like, she. She's up at three, is what I'm trying to say. All right, well, she's dead now, right? Yeah. She would definitely be the perpetrator of what you're talking about. For sure.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah. I just. I can't take it. I can't stand it. It makes me want to scream. You should. And a lot of times they're not even. They don't. They're like watching a movie.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

You don't need light for that hoe.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Also, that light is so, like. It's almost like it burns your eyeballs. It's so intense.

[Trixie Mattel]

And I have, like, emotional turmoil when it's my window, the person behind his window and the window in the middle that I'm not Sure. If I'm in control of spiritually.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

If you can reach it, you can. You can put it down.

[Trixie Mattel]

That's because sometimes the person in front of you has the window open that's kind of behind them.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

And you're like, I think it's fair.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Game if you can touch it.

[Trixie Mattel]

And why in the UK and Europe and stuff, why do they make you open the windows for landing? They can suck my too. I hate it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Ryan Ayre, this is a message for you.

[Trixie Mattel]

Fuck off, girl.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I hate her.

[Trixie Mattel]

I hate her. I hate her so much. First class, empty middle seat.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Mary. There's no first class.

[Trixie Mattel]

There's no. I can't.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's not first class. It's just the front row. That's all it is.

[Trixie Mattel]

I did a gig last weekend that was so nice because it was in San Diego and I. I just had to drive.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You drove to San Diego to take the five?

[Trixie Mattel]

I don't know. I had to go to TwitchCon.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

What the is TwitchCon?

[Trixie Mattel]

Twitch is a platform that people live stream from. Oh, yeah, whatever.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

And I got to go host a drag showcase at the show. So I hosted the drag show, basically.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Isn't that the platform where everybody says it?

[Trixie Mattel]

I don't know. You're not. You're not. That's hate speech. Oh, so you can't say that.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

What if they own.

[Trixie Mattel]

But like, on PlayStation, when you play Call of Duty, people are like, yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, that's the one thing.

[Trixie Mattel]

And that's not all they say.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, God. What do they say? What do they say?

[Trixie Mattel]

Every slur.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Oh, no.

[Trixie Mattel]

Every slur. Like, little white middle schoolers screaming every slur. Oh, but I don't play those type of games.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Like, the ones where I don't. Can you explain to me that type of game where, like, other people around the world are playing? I don't get it.

[Trixie Mattel]

So it's like multiplayer online multiplayer.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay, like, what does that mean?

[Trixie Mattel]

Like, MMO is like massive multiplayer. What is it? Massive online multiplayer. I forget what you call it. That's like. It's like. Let's say it's basically a glorified game of mmo. Yes.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That sounds horrifying.

[Trixie Mattel]

So that will be, like, you and dozens of other people from all over the world in the same game playing together.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

So theoretically, is moral combat like that?

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah, you could play moral combat against real people.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

So I could be fighting someone in Singapore.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That's fierce.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah, I could be fighting RuPaul.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I mean, theoretically.

[Trixie Mattel]

Theoretically. I think RuPaul's making tick tocks. I don't think she's busy playing places, Mary.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She is saving the world through those Instagram reels. I'm sorry. It's the one Annie running through the parking lot.

[Trixie Mattel]

Crazy. I like.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I'm like, oh my God. Keep going, Grandma. I like. I love you so much.

[Trixie Mattel]

The one that's like how I make my clients feel when I do their hair. Just looking in a mirror, slowly spinning. That is so funny.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She's so. I. I live for it. So hard. It's so fierce.

[Trixie Mattel]

But you know what I've been really into?

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

What?

[Trixie Mattel]

These Sylvia Brown tick tocks. What? What? People have been clipping old Sylvia Brown.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh my God. He drowned.

[Trixie Mattel]

You have to do this.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay.

[Trixie Mattel]

I've been like so horny to show this to you. My father's brother disappeared about 20 something years ago and the whole family has no idea whether he's alive or dead. He drowned. Thank you. Thank you.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That's right, Sylvia. My parents divorced when I was 2 years old and I don't know my biological father.

[Trixie Mattel]

You don't want to.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay, that's it.

[Trixie Mattel]

You don't.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Thank you.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Hi, Sylvia, my name is Hasana and I'm.

[Trixie Mattel]

About 18 years ago, my father went.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

On a business trip and never returned. The day that he was supposed to come, he called and never came. My family searched high and low.

[Trixie Mattel]

No results.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

So I just want to know if.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

He'S dead or alive.

[Trixie Mattel]

No, he's alive in Florida. Does that make sense?

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

No.

[Trixie Mattel]

No.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Thank you.

[Trixie Mattel]

No, but thank you.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Does that make sense? Is so cunting.

[Trixie Mattel]

Does that make sense?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

He's dead. Does that make sense?

[Trixie Mattel]

No, no. She said he's alive.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, but like he drowned. That's amazing.

[Trixie Mattel]

He drowned.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

He drowned.

[Trixie Mattel]

Love.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That she was such a fraud. Such a fraud. Crazy fraud.

[Trixie Mattel]

I just want to meet my dad. You would. You don't want to be done?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You don't want.

[Trixie Mattel]

Thank you. The crying.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I know that like.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Oh God.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Those on those psychics really talked it to you back in the day.

[Trixie Mattel]

Love Sylvia Brown. And I did look up like cuz I went down a rabbit hole of her legitimacy. And is there any like legitimized clairvoyance? And the best that's been recorded is when someone, let's say if they help the police find a dead body, they will be wrong three more times.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. It's not.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's not a one to one ratio.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's not real.

[Trixie Mattel]

But for me it is.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

He drowned.

[Trixie Mattel]

You think I can do that for people?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I mean, it's like, it's the conviction with which she gave those, like, permanent whatever. It's like, so cunty. She was like.

[Trixie Mattel]

It was.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It was just, like, fraud.

[Trixie Mattel]

But I do believe in tapping into the intuitive self.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, but she's literally just lying.

[Trixie Mattel]

You think she's like, yes, totally.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She's just, like, talking out of her asshole.

[Trixie Mattel]

I would be like, the 2025 version of that and be like, where is my father? He was pew pewed.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, my God. He un.

[Trixie Mattel]

He. Unless peed in Florida.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

In Florida. That's hell. Sylvia with Sylvia Brown. Who else was. Who's the other one? Oh, the Long island medium.

[Trixie Mattel]

Does she.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She actually talks to dead folk.

[Trixie Mattel]

People do say she is amazing.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

In what way? Like, is she.

[Trixie Mattel]

Like, she has accurate.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Really?

[Trixie Mattel]

I guess. What would you call it? She throws out lines and that they are received and verified by audience members.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, I think it's probably research, though, don't you think?

[Trixie Mattel]

How? Like, Googling people in the audience.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, but I mean, like, they probably have to fill out a form and then they're Facebooked or whatever. You know what I mean?

[Trixie Mattel]

I mean, I understand, like, you know, I've been learning tarot, and I do understand that in a lot of ways, those type of things are a mirror, and so they are true. Because you are deciding. Someone says you're going through a change.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

You go, I am. And the first thing that comes to your mind is what you're really going through.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

So it's not that it's fake.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

But it is more like you kind of already know.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Like, what I like about that tarot is if someone says, oh, there's a huge conflict that you just have to squash, your brain will tell you what that big conflict is. And so you already know.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's kind of universal.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's kind of universal, but you're the one attaching meaning to it. Like, wow. I guess my big conflict is this.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Yeah, but.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, but that's not. That's different than saying, like, your dead dad said this about this. That's kind of crazy. That's kind of crazy.

[Trixie Mattel]

He drowned. Yeah, he was pew pew while drowning.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Do they really say pew pew?

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, yeah, it's fierce.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Oh, my God.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's fierce. It's fierce.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I don't like that. I don't like that at all. They're saying it on tik Tok everywhere, always.

[Trixie Mattel]

I asked Bob about it. I was like, do you know about pew pew? He's like, oh, yeah, Ped.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, that is really. That's really troubling.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah. It's tough. So San Diego, I hadn't been in so long. Okay, San Diego, so beautiful.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

What has the perfect weather?

[Trixie Mattel]

It's what you think LA is in your mind.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's so pretty.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Gorgeous. It's gorgeous.

[Trixie Mattel]

The San Diego Convention center was so big. TwitchCon was so fun. All my different video games I like were there. Phantasmophobia. What am I saying? Phasmophobia was there. Capcom was there. And I got to host the drag show, which was really fun. And then. And because it's a live streaming convention, the live streaming, the quality of the camera, lighting and sound was so on the ball. Best technical production of a live event I think I've ever been a part of. Really? It was like the Streamys. It was so clean and it was con. The drag queens all had large private dressing rooms.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You're kidding.

[Trixie Mattel]

Good snacks, great air conditioning.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Damn.

[Trixie Mattel]

They got rehearsals to make sure all their music levels were right. Like it was run so smoothly.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

All right. TwitchCon.

[Trixie Mattel]

TwitchCon really ate with the. And they told me that's their biggest live event of the whole weekend. The drag show is so big. Fierce. So shout out to Jenny, the organizer of that and all the drag queens and I guess who is the drag queen?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Who are the drag queens?

[Trixie Mattel]

A lot of drag queens in the show. Bitch Pudding was there. Oh, fierce in the show because she's a streamer.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay.

[Trixie Mattel]

Jax from Drag Race was there. Okay. I have to tell you something crazy that happened. What? What?

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

What?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

What?

[Trixie Mattel]

Get into this Red Bull because this is going to be the type of thing that lives on the Internet forever. Jax.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, no.

[Trixie Mattel]

Jax was such an incredible performer.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Wait, who is?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, I know Jax. I know.

[Trixie Mattel]

Jack Jacks was so beautiful to look at and so good at performing. Performing. Jax, There's a reason why they put her last in the show. It was impossible to follow her. She was so good. She do. She did Chapel Ron Hot to Go. And she jump roped with her hair. Whoa. And I said, I'm watching as the host backstage and I'm hosting with this girl, Pearl Tease, this beautiful trans girl burlesque streamer. And we're watching the TV and I go, oh, my God. I go, there's a girl on Drag Race who did that. And she goes, yeah, that's her. I go, oh, good. Perfect.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Isn't that so, Mary?

[Trixie Mattel]

It's.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's so. It's so embarrassing.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's embarrassing. So it's gotten to the point where I don't. I'm afraid to say hi to drag queens because I'M afraid that I've met them. I'm afraid they were in Drag Race.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, exactly. They're the winners in Drag Race that way.

[Trixie Mattel]

Not. I don't care about looking at it as much as I care about hurting. Hurting feelings.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Yeah.

Yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's so awkward.

[Trixie Mattel]

Dear. This incredible streamer that I love most. Gorgeous. One of the most beautiful drag makeups I've ever seen in real life, in my whole life. Dear D E R E D E R E. Her makeup is so cool and graphic. We can. If you guys are watching, we put a screenshot of her. She's been on my YouTube channel. She's. But I just have to show you. She eats it up. She really eats it up for the girls. Ediana.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

She's one of those lips.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

What's going on with those lips?

[Trixie Mattel]

She draws the.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, it's like. Oh, it's like the shiny part.

[Trixie Mattel]

She draws the gloss on.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That's fierce white. That's actually fierce.

[Trixie Mattel]

And in person it reads. I always thought like, it was.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Reads like wet. Like, that's fierce.

[Trixie Mattel]

And on camera, if you're a professional streamer, you mostly do drag from your own lighting.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Oh, right.

[Trixie Mattel]

Go for it. Personal. I was like, you look more amazing person. Fierce. Drag Trashley is a big streamer. Who was there? I mean, it's. It was a live streamable show. Pharaoh was at Twitch. Wait, how is she? She streams, like, full time now.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She is so gorgeous.

[Trixie Mattel]

I know. I didn't get to see her that weekend. I knew she was there. Fair. I love Farah so much.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She's so funny.

[Trixie Mattel]

She was on all the ads. She blows anybody out of the water in a photo. It's so funny. So it was like Y2K. So she was in kind of her black and blonde. Christy Neguillera with, like, knots in her hair. Y2K vibes. Fierce eating.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Eating.

[Trixie Mattel]

I just had so much fun at TwitchCon. It made me remember how much I love streaming. I loved live streaming.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, what is, like, when you do, like, not. I don't get it. Like, do you make money from that?

[Trixie Mattel]

When I did, I did it mostly for charity. Like, what?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Like, what is it like, so if you're a streamer. Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Let's say you caught. You want to start a twitch.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Let's say every night from 6 to 8pm you do a live show.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay.

[Trixie Mattel]

Where you DJ, play video games, you do cooking class.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

You. Whatever you want to do for a live television, basically. Okay, it's live television, but it's from your house, like YouTube. Okay. So some people make it about video gaming, some people make it about crafting, yoga.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay.

[Trixie Mattel]

DJs. Okay. But I love a lot of the gamers and I just. I love Twitch and I loved meeting all the streamers and these people basically one man show produce television channels from their homes.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No shit.

[Trixie Mattel]

Overlays.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I've seen your setup. It's like, it's wild. It looks like the whole fucking studio. It looks like. Like an actual, like, TV studio.

[Trixie Mattel]

I think you would like it, actually. You get to control the lighting. Yeah. You don't have to get in drag from the waist down. Oh, that's talk to your fans directly. Do whatever content you can. Do a sewing stream.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You know what I'm doing, I'm going to do. I just talked to Mark the other day, like, I'm doing. Which one called asmr. I love.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

I love.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I love it so much. Do you ever listen to asmr?

[Trixie Mattel]

No, I don't like it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You don't like, why? Well, there's so many different types.

[Trixie Mattel]

There's like, the novelty of it. You don't like. For me, like, 2019, really? It just did. It hit for like a month and I was like, that's funny. And yeah. What I do like is the situations.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay.

[Trixie Mattel]

I do like. Like you're just waking up with your vampire boyfriend.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay.

[Trixie Mattel]

I do love the situation.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Your second cranial nerve exam or whatever.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah, yeah. Someone's at the mall doing your makeup.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay.

[Trixie Mattel]

I'm just gonna do your lips. The situation is more interesting to me than the sound.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay. I don't get into big pickle, like crunch stuff like that. That. Yeah. Mouth sounds are not really my game.

[Trixie Mattel]

What about lips?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Love that. I love it when they're queefing.

[Trixie Mattel]

Okay.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Love that.

[Trixie Mattel]

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And I got to work for the Sims. I work for the Sims, like all the time. You worked for the Sims last year.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Love the Sims. Their booth was so cool.

[Trixie Mattel]

If you guys are long time. If anybody plays Sims, the robber that's in the Sims in black and white with the mask, like creeping in the game. Who steals from you? They had an actor there dressed like him with the little green thing by his head, creeping around the booth, just trying to steal from people. Ew. It was so funny. And he never talked. So he would come up and look at you and your phone's sitting there. He'd be like, ooh, it was so funny. I cracked up. And also compared to no offense to dragcon mama, it was nice. Good air conditioning.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Dragcon is so boo boo.

[Trixie Mattel]

And it was low lighting.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Oh, fear.

[Trixie Mattel]

So everybody looked.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No overhead fluorescence.

[Trixie Mattel]

No. It was like the soft glow.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, my God.

[Trixie Mattel]

A nice, calm convention. And I want to. My thought went to. For people who love Twitch, they might love Twitch because it's entertainment for people who maybe don't want to go out socially. Social anxiety, autism, sensory overload.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Dimmer lights like that. I'm like, some of these people could actually have fun at a convention instead of feeling overwhelmed.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I know that always struck me because, like, at Drag, DragCon was so overwhelming. So like, so, like stressful. You know what I mean? Everybody's like, stressed out. And I'm like, I was always impressed at like the.

[Trixie Mattel]

The.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I don't know, the wokeness or the resilience. The resilience of these people who are like a little bit awkward. You know what I mean?

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I would like. I wouldn't have lasted like 10 minutes as a person, like entering.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's just like. Well, and for people who are primarily content creators from home, I think it's fair to say that they maybe create that kind of content because they feel more comfortable than live performance in front of people in real life. Yeah. And so I do think for a lot of Streamers. Not just the audience, but the streamer themselves might have chosen streaming because that environment can be overloading. So I just liked that. It was a chill vibe. I got to walk. Oh, my God. Nick and I did Comic Con like, last year.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Wait, did you do it? You do it in drag? Yeah, but a lot of people don't do it. They do it out of their character.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Right?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Isn't that right?

[Trixie Mattel]

I mean, like, Cassandra Peterson will probably not dress up as a Lyra.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

But we were at New York, and I was like, we probably need security. It was like, when I go in here, I tied my hair up. I was like, a bomb's gonna go off. I'm so fucking famous.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Nobody. Nobody paid you the.

[Trixie Mattel]

I'm talking me walking through hordes of people, no one batting an eye. You're killing straight fuck. It was.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

We have video footage so humiliated that so much. Oh, my God.

[Trixie Mattel]

With a camera, lights, no one caring.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, my God.

[Trixie Mattel]

So then this year, getting followed around.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

By a camera and nobody cares. No. That's so fierce.

[Trixie Mattel]

We almost got security this year, and our management was like, you know, Jinx has a great security team. Like, I could give you their number. I said, do they have experience with celebrities? I think that's kind of fun.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

But wait, wait, wait. Did you see the clip of My God. Of Jared Leto coming out to. At the premiere of.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

What was it?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Tron. To a theater that was maybe, like, filled a quarter of the way.

[Trixie Mattel]

That's tough. Why did no one want to see Tron?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I don't. I think it's, like, flopped big time. It's a big time flop. But like, Mary, if that. If that were me, I would like in my publicist, you know, was like.

[Trixie Mattel]

Bring the car around.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I'd be like, I think we're just going to skip it.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah, yeah. Gas.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I get a little gas. No, that is like mar.

[Trixie Mattel]

So that's. That's. That's. But it's one or the other. Because sometimes in these environments, I find myself in situation where I mean, no te. There have been security incidents at these conventions and will continue to happen.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

So sometimes it's like you don't want to have. By security sometimes what I mean is, can someone grab my hand and briskly walk me where I'm going? Because I don't know where I'm going.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yes, right.

[Trixie Mattel]

If I look lost, it's better to have someone just with a flashlight confidently saying, here's how to get to where you're going. Yeah, I don't need someone to push people. I need a navigator.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well, you know, I had people, I had, I was carried at Dragon uk.

[Trixie Mattel]

Carried out.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. Like they, if I had to go, like have a cigarette or go to the bathroom, they, they, they pick me up and carry me and run. It was great. So it was like.

[Trixie Mattel]

Who's they?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

The security.

[Trixie Mattel]

Dawson. Yeah, he could do it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, the amazing security at dragcon uk. They were so hot and so nice and so wonderful and I think. Was I injured? No, no. There was a rumor that I was injured because I wasn't walking.

[Trixie Mattel]

I had fun at dragcon uk.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

It was.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, it was great. I think it was. I just, I don't.

[Trixie Mattel]

I found a job. I remember it was nice.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It was like, the lighting is. Javits center was hell, Mary.

[Trixie Mattel]

And LA Convention center was hell. I'm saying it, Whatever.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Oh, no, no, no, no.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

The Javits Center.

[Trixie Mattel]

The Javits Center.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

We need to talk about Javits.

[Trixie Mattel]

We need to talk about.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Because this is, I have full body chills right now because I, I, this is a core memory at this point. Core memory. Core memory. Like I remember when my dad was shot in front of me and I remember Javits center, right? That's like that kind of thing. Like, I, when we entered the convention center and right before I was entering my booth, which was. We had decorated by a decorator, they mentioned that there's no smoking anywhere on or near the premises. And to the average person, that's just a normal statement. To me at that time, that was like on par with. So we're going to take your entire family, immediate and extended, bring them out naked, whip them through the streets and then behead them in front of you, right? And then we're going to make you watch it on videotape for the rest of your life. That would have been worse or that would have been better than no smoking, right? I, I was like, I guess we'll leave. I swear to God. I was like, I was ready to just do a U turn and go.

[Trixie Mattel]

Back to the hotel and just go lay down.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Do I do anything? Read Sports Illustrated, right? Play darts?

[Trixie Mattel]

What did you do?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I, I was professional and did my job.

[Trixie Mattel]

Was this kind of like when you went to Disney and you got hit with that reality when you weren't allowed to smoke. Remember that?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well, Disney, Yeah, Disney. But I was also humiliated. That is fine. If I get humiliated, then I'm like, okay, forget it.

[Trixie Mattel]

You should have just bow birded it. Blow the smoke in the baby Face. Right, right. I mean, Bo.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Burn it.

[Trixie Mattel]

No. Beetlejuice it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

But see that. Oh, my God. I just noticed that Eliza suit behind you.

[Trixie Mattel]

That's been there forever.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I know. I guess I didn't know. What do you mean, always? How long has it been there? Really? I love that. Love that I have that T shirt.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, I haven't watched it this year. It's usually in my Halloween rotation. Do you have a purse on the head? I.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

This morning, I was. I. I went through, I don't know, all of her Instagram reels going back months and months and months. My God, she's awesome. It is the Annie one with the. She's using the shoe as the microphone. Running through the parking lot for so long.

[Trixie Mattel]

I just shoved the nuke up my pussy.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, my God. It's like. Oh, it's so fun. It's so good. I think I'm just gonna make, like, a super cut and just watch that instead of tv.

[Trixie Mattel]

I think you should. Yeah, I think that's valid.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Thank you. You know Javits, Ms. Javits.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, let's go back to Javits. Well, I remember one year where you and I were promoting Trix and cut down Viceland. Remember, they put all this money into the advertising. There were big plaques of us around. That was nice.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yes.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, yeah. Comic Con at the Jazz. Oh, no. I had.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I had a blast doing that. The press for Trixie and our show, that was fun.

[Trixie Mattel]

Nick was Javit Center. Comic Con. See, I had a fine time at the Comic Con. So maybe it's the drag, but also, we're so famous at DragCon.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Just getting to the bathroom at DragCon is an issue.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You know, it is so interesting. Like, I.

[Trixie Mattel]

Isn't it done now? Okay. So we could speak ill the dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I mean, listen, I will. I'll never Forget the first DragCon, because we were right next to each other.

[Trixie Mattel]

We shared a booth that we were at the first dragcon. That's fucked.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

First dragcon. And it was. It was crazy. And I remember running on fumes. Never went to the bathroom.

[Trixie Mattel]

Nine hour meet and greet.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Nine hour meet and greet. No bathroom, no food, no water. When I got back to the hotel, my body just collapsed. Like, I've never felt worse in my whole life. But because it was all, like, adrenaline and, like, fun, and I was like. Because it was amazing.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And then. But no, I mean, it was literally all that wore off within, like, three minutes. And then I was like, oh. And I became a husk of a person. It was so interesting.

[Trixie Mattel]

And every time I did DragCon in New York, I would say, like the Yotel. So I'm staying in a room that's like an oven. Like. Like a tiny oven. It's tiny.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

All New York hotels suck.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah, that's not true. You gotta get you a room at the Mandarin.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Whoa. That's a five star hotel.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah, it is. Like 1200 a night or something.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

What was it?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

What was the year that you wore a 45 pound wig and almost had an annual result?

[Trixie Mattel]

That was la.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Was that the second one?

[Trixie Mattel]

You know, I don't mean to speak ill of DragCon. It just conventions in general are just hard when your job is meeting and greeting.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Honestly, when we're younger, this is the issue too. We're blaming other people. We should have personal boundaries. But I'm gonna go do two hours and go home.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That's what. That's what I did.

[Trixie Mattel]

The personal obligation that I put on myself to meet and greet for six hours a day.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

I would meet and greet from like 12 to 6.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Why am I doing that?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I think. I think we ended up pre. Selling them. I'm not saying. I'm not trying to brag, by the way.

[Trixie Mattel]

We didn't sell them.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I did.

[Trixie Mattel]

I just always. Did you have to have merch buy merchandise?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay, maybe I didn't.

[Trixie Mattel]

We didn't sell them. No. Because some girls started doing vip. You could pay more to be in the front.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

People didn't like.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

A lot.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And a lot of. There was a lot of. There was a lot of politics, commotion about, like, so and so is charging this. So. And. And then people were like, well, I'm charging nothing. And they would like, promote that as if they were Mother Teresa. You know what I mean? It was very also like, okay, both.

[Trixie Mattel]

People in your line are gonna love that. That sounds horrible. No, I don't mean it that way. But like. But I never try. I only charge for. You had to buy something. Yeah, because they charge us to be there. We're paying. Oh, yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

By the way, they flee square footage. A dragcon. Are you out of your mind?

[Trixie Mattel]

It's.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Javit center was like more than New York real estate.

[Trixie Mattel]

Javits center was like by the pound.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Crazy.

[Trixie Mattel]

Charged by the pound of what? That's why. Oh, my God.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Every time I drew.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, God.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

One of my sets, as if I had a set, I think somebody wrote a crayon Katya and pinned it to a pole.

[Trixie Mattel]

But I remember when you're seeing Jinx just have a. She just had a ring light and a curtain. And I was almost like.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

They'Re here for you. Yeah, that's all they're here for.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

This is set design Con.

[Trixie Mattel]

What are we doing?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, it's not set design.

[Trixie Mattel]

I was like, this is a convention. Go sit at the card table for 20 minutes.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I know.

[Trixie Mattel]

We all got whipped up into some kind of like. You were getting a hospital bed. I was getting shot out of a cannon. I don't know what the we were doing. And no one made us do this. So what was that? We're complaining about drag car.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I really couldn't.

[Trixie Mattel]

But all the about it was our fault.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I know.

[Trixie Mattel]

I know. The hospital bed would have been great.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I would have been great, like. Or the. I would have been the. The dad from Strangers of Candy or Contagion.

[Trixie Mattel]

Contagion, yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, my God. Body doubles.

[Trixie Mattel]

Body doubles.

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Of course.

[Trixie Mattel]

Six of them.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I mean, you could have had six.

[Trixie Mattel]

Trixies if I had that. If I knew what I knew. Now the new Trixie. The new, improved Trixie. Oh, my God.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Run her into the ground.

[Trixie Mattel]

Do you know, people still don't seem to know that I was. That she was on House. She was on Salt Lake City Housewives. And I wasn't. Wait, what? I was busy. And they went to my bar in Milwaukee, Rest in peace. And I was like, well, I'm not around. Just get the other Trixie and just don't put a body mic on her. And they credit her as not Trixie. Trixie Double. And people still are like, that night, my own friends. Friends from college were like, girl, come say hi. We saw you.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Like, oh, my God, that's hysterical.

[Trixie Mattel]

And the other women, instead of like a. I thought it would be a fun gag where they'd be like, oh, my God, it's not you. Huh?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

They don't get it.

[Trixie Mattel]

None of them knew.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

They.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

They don't know their ass from alpha.

[Trixie Mattel]

I don't think they knew.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

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[Trixie Mattel]

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[Katya Zamolodchikova]

How do you. Speaking of the housewives, cage match.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Who would win?

[Trixie Mattel]

What do you mean?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Who would win in a cage match? Lisa Rinna.

[Trixie Mattel]

Nicholas Cage didn't. She came on your Grinder pod. She. Is she nice?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She was.

[Trixie Mattel]

She's a big fag. Right.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I was so scared. She was a doll.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, why were you scared?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Because she was like. I don't know. Well, a. Because I'm not super familiar with the Housewives. I know I wasn't like incredibly familiar with her career.

[Trixie Mattel]

Right.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And I thought there was a good chance that she would be a. I don't know. And also it was a little strange. Like, hey, you're not a man, you're a woman who's been married to the same guy for like 30 years.

[Trixie Mattel]

Harry Hamlin.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. Very sexy. And, you know, was one in one of the first like gay roles and kind of got him kicked out of Hollywood. 1982.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah. Anyway, it makes sense because she's a fan. She is.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I love Mary. Like her, the whole thing, the look. She was all in black. She just looks so chic and we had a blast. She was so funny and she was talking about how she wants to get it. She wants to have cut people's head off with chainsaws for her.

[Trixie Mattel]

Good. For her.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

American Horror Story. Chainsaw.

[Trixie Mattel]

Chainsaw. American Horror Story. Lisa Rinna, Chainsaw. Honestly, she should be on a horror story. That seems like.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, she wants to and I think she should.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She would be a natural. What are they bothering with Kim Kardashian when Lisa Rinna's around?

[Trixie Mattel]

I don't know Kim Kardashian. Do you know what happened to me? The other thing about Drag Coma is you had to. Well, I will say this. If you've won Drag Race at least they used to fly you if you're a winner. You got flew out, flew down.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well, we lived in la.

[Trixie Mattel]

But also, it just costs so much and it was a full weekend. Not to mention weeks of preparation. Mama. It's just too much work.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I got paid to go to dragcon uk.

[Trixie Mattel]

I know, Me too.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That was fierce.

[Trixie Mattel]

I know.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That was really fierce. I don't know how they made any money, but, you know, great.

[Trixie Mattel]

I never made much money at dragcon and not to sound whatever, but I had to look around and go, if Trixie can't make money at dragcon, what are we doing?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I know, I know. No, seriously, it just was too.

[Trixie Mattel]

And I love to meet the fans and I liked to see the girls. The Kiki was getting to see all the girls.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well, that was the thing that always frustrated me is I never got to see the girl.

[Trixie Mattel]

You'd be there all weekend and I get a text of milk being like, I didn't even see you.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Would you?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. And also so exotic. Like, way too tired to go out at night, you know, like you have. Especially after the first night because you're going to be for the next day. That always. That always pissed me off so much. Because you never got to see the girls unless you did the show, which was always fun. That was a blast. That was really fun to do. I had a blast doing that.

[Trixie Mattel]

I would do another one if it ever came back. I would do it, but I would do it. Like I said, smart. Go for two hours.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Do a panel and go home.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, that's. I think that's what I did. The. The last one, it was like, I will be there from 12 to 2. Yeah. I'm doing a panel and then I'm. That's it. And then another two hours.

[Trixie Mattel]

We complain about it, but, like, DragCon was never like, you must do an eight hour meet and greet. No, that's our own mental illness.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I know, but I was always like, I don't want people to. It's not line conversation.

[Trixie Mattel]

I know.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I don't like. I don't like people having to wait in line so long.

[Trixie Mattel]

I know.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It sucks.

[Trixie Mattel]

It sucks. I had an experience. I was flying. Oh, I think I told you this.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Was I on the plane with you?

[Trixie Mattel]

No, no, you were flying the plane.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I'm the Invisible Man.

[Trixie Mattel]

No. I had to fly to Malta and I missed my flight to Rome. Car service never picked me up, so. Car service. No call, no show.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

So relatable.

[Trixie Mattel]

No call, no show. So got in the car. Finally, after the Uber Came, and I was like, we're not gonna make it that 30 minutes. We needed that to get to the airport. So called Maddie. She's like, I've never used this car service before. Like, I can't believe they no called. She rebooks me, thank God. And she's like, all right, you're gonna have to fly through Turkey. And by the way, it was 7,000 extra dollars work, but I'm not gonna miss the gig. That's like seven grand.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Seven.

[Trixie Mattel]

Seven grand. So I thought of this because of the Yotel, I had to stay overnight at. The Yotel is a Yotel. It's like a modular hotel.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

What is the tiny room like yo come from?

[Trixie Mattel]

Yo. Like, yo, yo hotel. You know? Yo, it's your hotel. Your hotel. Got it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I don't know.

[Trixie Mattel]

I made that up, okay? But. Oh, my God. I flew Turkish Airlines. Do you know what it's like to fly first class as a bald white man?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, my God. Everybody clocks your T. Everybody.

[Trixie Mattel]

My flight attendant was like, everything's gonna change.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Your life's about to change forever.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah. They gave me, like, a bouquet of flowers.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, my God. You should have come back with the.

[Trixie Mattel]

Only piece on me getting off the plane. It was like, we welcome you to Munchkin Land.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No. Why haven't they, like, outsourced that? Why is Turkey the destination to get the only. It seems to be the only destination to get hair.

[Trixie Mattel]

My other issue with Turkish Airlines is what? Whatever. We shoot me in the eye. I flew first class. Okay, whatever.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

As if people are going to expect for you to ride in the back of the cabin.

[Trixie Mattel]

There is a middle row in first class on this Turkish airline.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Mama, that's no. That's no first class.

[Trixie Mattel]

I'm in the middle. Middle row.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Middle row. American Horror Story, middle row.

[Trixie Mattel]

And I was so depression because I had to pay 7,000 extra dollars, so.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I'm depressed to be in the middle.

[Trixie Mattel]

Row just to get another flight because I'm not going to miss the gig.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Now, why do they make you pay some? Who knows? I don't know. They cast some runes, look at some bones, and then they. That's the price.

[Trixie Mattel]

The thing is, the airlines, they. You got somewhere to go, and they know it. They got you. They.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

They have your balls in a vice grip, right? They got your pussy with a clamp.

[Trixie Mattel]

And I'm feeling emotional. And so I'm the woman next to me, not. Not the person on the other side, because there is two is watching the Notebook, and I did something I never do, which is watch that Whole movie while off her screen with no headphones on. Like, like the killer. So she's watching the movie with headphones on. And I'm like this.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I can't not watch a movie if I can see it.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's. I don't know what it is. It's compulsion.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

If I'm on the. If I'm on an aisle seat, next row on the right, say, I'm on the left aisle, next row on the right. That person. I can't not watch that.

[Trixie Mattel]

I can't not watch it. I.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's. And. And I'm riveted and I'm locked in. It could be.

[Trixie Mattel]

Have you ever seen somebody. Watch yourself.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It could be too fully loaded. It could be Shawshank Redemption. It could be like any movie. I don't even want to watch it, but I have to.

[Trixie Mattel]

Have you ever caught somebody watching yourself? Drag racer. Isn't Drag Race on there? Trixie Motels on Air Canada. I've seen people watching it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Get out of here. Do you like, throw peanuts at them.

[Trixie Mattel]

And be like, no. I'm like, no, no, no. But when we were in Canada, I did see some girl with one of our shirts on. And this is what I love to do. I love to go, nice shirt and keep walking.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You say, nice shirt, and then you take off all your clothes, right?

[Trixie Mattel]

And she looks over and I'm standing there with that black goat from the witch and I have my dick cut off. And I'm holding up my hand and I'm just chewing. And then she looks at me and I look at her.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

They look over at me and I'm breastfeeding a crow.

[Trixie Mattel]

Girl, get into the witch. Get into the witch, baby. Get into the witch.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Wait, have you seen any fierce fun movies?

[Trixie Mattel]

Of course. Of course. Of course.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Girl.

[Trixie Mattel]

No, but I do want to go see this movie. So this is the 50 year anniversary of Rocky Horror Picture Show.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Oh, wow.

[Trixie Mattel]

You know, I love that movie.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Of course.

[Trixie Mattel]

And they just showed it at Sinespia. I didn't get to go see it out of town, but Tim Curry was there to introduce the movie, so.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Are you serious? Oh, I saw the clip of Sigourney Weaver. They got a clip of her. I think they showed. Must have been alien.

[Trixie Mattel]

I think it was alien.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, alien. By the way, I know we already talked about it.

[Trixie Mattel]

Alien. Alien. Earth.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You got to start watching it.

[Trixie Mattel]

Okay, mama? You have to. Okay.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You owe it to me and to your country.

[Trixie Mattel]

Right? Okay. Okay.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I'll kill myself. I pew pew myself.

[Trixie Mattel]

I will. I really want to go See Rocky at like a, you know, midnight showing. Yeah. Because it's a 50 year. I want to be like, woo. And I got to do that movie, A Strange Journey. There's this big documentary out about it, and I'm in it, and I haven't seen the documentary, even though they sent me a screener and I was like, I'll watch it whenever. Yeah, the link expired.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, I hate those damn expiring links.

[Trixie Mattel]

So now I got to go buy a ticket and find a place to watch it.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Damn.

[Trixie Mattel]

I got it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I got a link once it expired.

[Trixie Mattel]

That is true. It'd be like that sometimes.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Mary, let's tell them how the sausage is made. Like some.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

At.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Sometimes at Netflix, we. I don't know if I'm supposed to say this, but we. Because we're promoting Netflix originals or movies that, you know, sometimes are, like, not out yet, we are sometimes have to watch, like, unedited or, like, not the Final Cut.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yep.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And it could be anywhere from, like, it's not color graded yet to there's, like, nothing in it.

[Trixie Mattel]

Sometimes just a blue. We watched one piece. It was a blue screen with an. With an actor just walking around.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. Sometimes it's just like, okay. It's like the color. You can tell the colors aren't there. Or like, the ADR is not, like, totally done.

[Trixie Mattel]

Sometimes when I was doing Pit Stop. Yeah. It would be like a twink intern. Like, the winner, Blue Paul's Drag race. She seems 150. Whatever. They get.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Ms. Peter Badge, they get, like. They get Ruth Peter badge.

[Trixie Mattel]

They get $4 million now.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Well, then you win Drag Race, you get four. You get a yacht and a little. You move in with RuPaul, you get a little boo tattoo.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You live in her pool.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yes. You have to make she do reels with her.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

And then you're gonna throw it back.

[Trixie Mattel]

I hope she does it this year again.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, she's gonna do it.

[Trixie Mattel]

RuPaul, if you're watching. She is. Of course she is.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She's gonna throw. She's gonna kick a labubu in the face, Mary. I. I don't want that on Earth. I felt the way about Beanie Babies. I felt the way the same way about Labubus.

[Trixie Mattel]

Right.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Although I did watch the south park episode where they did, like, the satanic ritual for the. With the laboon.

[Trixie Mattel]

I thought that was extremely funny. You said bring her back, right? I don't have an. Yeah, bring her back. 8 the knife chewing. 8 the knife chewing this crazy. That was a great movie. And that actress. I forget her name from Sally Water.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She's so incredible.

[Trixie Mattel]

Good.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

She's so damn good. I'm going to. I'm going to drown you in the pool now. That's RuPaul. To the pumpkin. Yeah. Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

And also anything where there's like. Like the movie Hush where the young woman can't hear something, where the character in peril is missing, a sense of. It's so heightened. You're like. You can't. You can't run for the killer because.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You can't see mama. That scene in the kitchen at the beginning of that movie with the guy when.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Right.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It scary because I have. So I'm alone in my house, right? I have so many windows, my breasts exposed from every angle. My hair long, very seductive, very vulnerable.

[Trixie Mattel]

Very likely to be killed, very jealous.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

With all sorts of, like, nefarious characters running around with knives and whatnot.

[Trixie Mattel]

I mean, in our neighborhood. Yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Hello.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

At the corner of Crack and Meth.

[Trixie Mattel]

When we tell you guys that we live in Hollywood, we're not saying we live in.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

We're not Bell. Not Bel Air Hills.

[Trixie Mattel]

Your idea of. We're not in fancy. We're. We're.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Baby.

[Trixie Mattel]

We're. We're feeling good, we're eating good in the neighborhood. Yeah. Okay.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Hollywood is not. It's not my dream. Because you live in. Yeah, I live. You've never been there. Me just tell you, it is truly skid row adjacent, right? Because there was. Apartment buildings go up in 13 hours. Like, that's the good level of craft craftsmanship. You know what I mean? Like, literally, it'll be a empty plot with dog and, like, needles. And then 14 hours later, there'll be a high rise.

[Trixie Mattel]

Right.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Okay. Made out of cardboard, tissue paper and glue.

[Trixie Mattel]

Sold for $10 million near me. They have free shower Tuesdays. Okay. Which, you know, I know. We all love a shower. What your situation is. A shower is very revitalizing. And I told my friend about it, and she goes, oh, no. How long do you have to wait? And I was like, I'm not using that shower. Ho.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

How long. What are you doing in the shower?

[Trixie Mattel]

Well, I've traveled so much, they probably have free pool Fridays at my house. I don't even know about it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Thank you.

[Trixie Mattel]

That you do.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Brandon said to me the other day, he said, I'm just gonna stop by your house and do a jump in the pool. I was like, well, the gardener's there, so keep your clothes on naked. I don't know if he gets in.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Naked, but what if you swim naked, don't you? Well, you have people peeping.

[Trixie Mattel]

Well, peepers, but also the my Joel who takes care of all the gardening. I'm always afraid he's gonna come. Okay, what if he stops by unannounced?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Girl.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

When I moved into my house, the first day, I jerked off and the gardener saw me. Sure, like within hours. It was like, this is so bad and so shameful and so disgusting.

[Trixie Mattel]

Why would you like cheated out to the window, jerking it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I was pressed up against the glass. That's how I whack it.

[Trixie Mattel]

Why don't you go to bed? It was 3pm in the afternoon, I guess, but go lay in the bed and jerk it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well, I just didn't have curtains set up Also. Where do you get shears?

[Trixie Mattel]

Sheer curtains?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Online. Haven't made. Stop being so.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

I don't know.

[Trixie Mattel]

You have a sewing machine make your own.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, that's true, actually.

[Trixie Mattel]

Gotta make sure it weights in the bottom though, so they hang right. Shears are so light. They look all horrible if they don't have some weight.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I gotta tell you though, I had the other room painted and I made a bold color choice and it was a big risk and it paid off, I'm telling you.

[Trixie Mattel]

Let's celebrate.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

No, no, I'm telling you. I think I have a knack for interior design, right? It's. I'm like, I know, I know. What, It'll look good for me, right?

[Trixie Mattel]

It's about time we figure out what you're good at.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Shut the fuck up. No, like, I know we. I know. Like I. I know this. Like, if I'm making a decision just for me, or if I'm making a decision that's a little more universal, or if I'm trying to make something that's like, logical, whatever, you know what I mean? So I have all these like, available choices and I just like, okay, well, I have a red room, I got a blue room, I got a black and white, blah, blah. I went with yellow. I love yellow. Very golden yellow. Like a bright ass yellow. Not lemon, more like sun.

[Trixie Mattel]

Like a golden. Yes, that's goldenrod.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. I think it was called goldenrod. And it's autumn sunrise. I love it so much.

[Trixie Mattel]

That's good.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I love it so much. And I'm turning the beat around in this condo so fiercely.

[Trixie Mattel]

What's the function of the room?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It is.

[Trixie Mattel]

What?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Well, it was the jerk off room, but because I googled a lot of. Because I call it the den now. It's just a den.

[Trixie Mattel]

I. I had an office that was yellow. And I found it to be very like, it's a great place to sit and work. Yellow is very energizing.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It is super energizing. And you can see it from the downstairs. Oh, I had a runner put on the stairs and I almost came right. I've been dreaming about runners. This is so fascinating. The people on the 101, on the 5, listening to us. I've been having dreams about putting the runners on these stairs for, like years. I've lived there for a year. But they did it, and they did it so fast and they did it so well. And from the outside, you can see the bright yellow of the room if the door's open. And it's so bewitching and enchanting.

[Trixie Mattel]

Thank God. Thank God.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I can't wait to have you come over when it's done.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah, well, you're doing one room at a time, which is probably how most people do it if they're living there while they do it. Right. You know, it would. Yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, that's the other thing is like, I know first world problems big time. I, I, I, I can't, I can't deal with the noise. Like, even if I'm the drilling noise or the ham. I mean, it's so loud.

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[Trixie Mattel]

Get some of those giant apple headphones.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I have them. I do the noise canceling if I'm in, if I have to be in the house. And it's still like, I'm so sensitive to it. It's just really wild.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah, it's, it's tough. It's a lot of, a lot of noise. It's a lot of dust. It's a lot of people coming and going.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, that I don't mind. Although my, my door is always unlocked.

[Trixie Mattel]

People coming and going is kind of draining too. I mean, that's like a big part of it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

But the two guys, the there, the, the cast of characters is changing a lot, which is, I'm a little uncomfortable with. But now I got these two guys. They are so sexy. I want to them so bad. I'm, I, I was seriously considering, I was, I was seriously considering like doing like a little magic thing where like I go in the room and I come out a total fucking woman. Because when I tell you I got this shipment of wigs that came. That is the exact wig JLo wears in her fucking crazy ass concert. The exact wig that I come out looking like that with that woman.

[Trixie Mattel]

Looking like Jennifer Lopez.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Looking like Jennifer Lopez talking Spanish somehow. And they will fuck me Right. They'll. They will bring me to the yellow room, splay my legs like a spread eagle. And me.

[Trixie Mattel]

We had a. Our head contractor for Trixie Motel season two was so gorgeous.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

The long haired guy.

[Trixie Mattel]

No, he had short hair. But he was so handsome. Yeah, that was the designer.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I loved him.

[Trixie Mattel]

The contractor was so fine. Yeah, he was. He was so. I had my friend who was staying this weekend as a realtor, and I was like, be honest. Did I ruin my house? Is it too crazy if I want to resell it? It's. It's just too crazy. And he said, it's a lot of bold colors. He said, but it'll show really well. And people who see that a house is like, they see a house as decorated very one way, and they see potential for what they want to do to it. Like, you didn't ruin your house. They're like. And everyone wants a pink kitchen. But he's like, somebody could paint your kitchen white. Just keep the pink tile. And it would be pretty neutral. Yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I don't. I struggled with painting the hallway. The hallway was totally jacked. Like, totally jacked. And we needed to paint it and patch it up big time. And I chose white. Like a. Like a gloss, semi gloss white. Because I was like, this is what a normal person would do. And it looks fine.

[Trixie Mattel]

Do. Do bold art. If I could do my house all over again, I think I would have done a lot of white walls, but a lot of bold furniture and art.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That's. So I've got a big. I've got a great idea for the art. But now because the walls look so good, I don't want to put anything in them.

[Trixie Mattel]

Do contact strips. Really? Yeah.

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[Trixie Mattel]

You gotta prep the wall first. But do context trips, all right?

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Because I don't want to. I don't want to bang holes in the wall. This is so fascinating to people. I know.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah. But you can always patch them.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

Don't live for the person who lives there. After you. I have to tell you before we go, last night, this weekend, the B52s.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

@ the Hollywood Bowl. Played at the Hollywood Bowl.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Did you live?

[Trixie Mattel]

And I've never seen Debo, but last minute I said, I got to see the. If I get an opportunity to see them, I levitate toward them. It's like hereditary. When her headless body floats up to the tree to the B52. Like, I'm just like, weapons ran out of my house to the fucking concert.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Spit black.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah. So I get there. I get.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I hate the Hollywood Ball.

[Trixie Mattel]

I love it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Getting in and out of there.

[Trixie Mattel]

Went to a little happy hour with my friends. Went there, sat down. Didn't buy any merch. I never wear the merch. I buy from concerts. I guess I'm doing it now, but I never wear the merch. So I just didn't get anything. And the night before was B52's second Devo first. So I was like, okay, I know Devo kind of. Well, maybe six songs by heart, but I don't know what they're gonna play. You know, B52s, I love. I freak out. And then that night, they switched. So B52 is first. So I sat down. I was like, you know, have a nice drink. Have just two bottles of Sauvignon Blanc while I watch the show and just get completely. Yeah, get blotto. And the show starts, and the people that you's come out and start freaking out immediately. Of course, they sing cosmic first. And then they start. They sing all the music. And I'm freaking out. And I told my friends, I said, I know you guys think I'm like, upstanding guy. When you see me at this concert, I want you to forget everything you know about me. I want you to know that I go feral for the B52s. I want you to know that you won't recognize the behaviors. And I might say things to you that might not make any sense. And I might. You know, you're nuts.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You're going freak out.

[Trixie Mattel]

You ever see, like, that older. Usually an older person at concert. Who's the first one dancing? Yes, that was me. Yeah, I was the first one. I.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

First one on the dance floor. Oh, yeah. They're vibing to something that they're vibing on a parallel dimension.

[Trixie Mattel]

I'm turning to the people next to me who don't know the music and screaming the words. I'm like, you old private Idaho.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

You better get into it.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yeah, this was it. Me show you what it was. This. No, I mean, I'm like, losing it. I'm losing.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Damn.

[Trixie Mattel]

That is crazy. My friends are like, you. And I was like, and this is only the second song. You better settle down. It was like, I love that.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I mean, that's the way I was at the damn L concert.

[Trixie Mattel]

Yep. You couldn't tell me nothing. It was me and them. No one else was there.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I was like, I'm going to sit down since my butt never hit the floor.

[Trixie Mattel]

Same. I was like, I'll probably sit. And I bought the garden seats at the Hollywood bowl, which Is the front little partitioned little thing rich? No, it's like $290 a se.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

I've only. I've only like, sat in those concrete little cubicles, which I don't like at all.

[Trixie Mattel]

Oh, I know what you're talking about. The little concrete. So ahead of that is the garden, the wooden things.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. It was so good.

[Trixie Mattel]

And Devo. I've never seen Devo.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

They love. It was amazing. Amazing. Wait, what? I don't know. I only know whip it.

[Trixie Mattel]

She's just a girl. She's just a girl. You won't.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Oh, that must have been a fun ass concert.

[Trixie Mattel]

These old men. Old men, Mark Mother's Ball, who wrote music for pretty much every TV show ever. And Devo. I mean, teenage nerds who started making like, like sci fi calculator music that accidentally was cool. Punk, pop, new wave music. Yeah. They're up there in their robot outfits, fear playing like they're little, you know, all black with the red hat.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

And like jumpsuits. They sound. The singing. They sounded exactly like old school Beefy. Like old school Devo. This. It was amazing. Something about watching old people play their music. 50. The Beefy Dudes have been together for 48 years.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Holy.

[Trixie Mattel]

They're coming up to 50 years as a band playing the music. Like, I went and I'm looking around and there's something about older people hearing music when they were young where they just, like time travel.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

It's like fucking 60 year olds dancing. I mean, Kate Pearson's 78, the redhead. She's up there singing, perfectly fierce. And next to me, I go, oh, my gosh. Carney Wilson. Wilson Phillips.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Are you serious?

[Trixie Mattel]

I was like, that's her. She loved the B52. She was singing every word too.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Carney.

[Trixie Mattel]

Somebody was sitting. I probably was unbearable to be around. But if you're going to a concert, you can't be mad that people are.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Saying, no, you can't be mad. You cannot be a joy killer. It's okay to not be a joy killer. Yeah, yeah.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

You can't.

[Trixie Mattel]

And they're all, I love the bv. I mean, Debo. I would go see anytime. If anybody ever has a chance to see Devo go to Run. My God, they almost were better than B52s. I hate to say they. They were amazing, but the B52s, they're so good and they're so old that every time they perform, I'm like, I have to go.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It could be the last attorney.

[Trixie Mattel]

And so I've gone four times in three years.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

It's like you could be the farewell tour.

[Trixie Mattel]

Every single time. Every time. I'm like, we gotta go. Mateo and I flew to Georgia to see them two. Two nights in a row.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

This so crazy.

[Trixie Mattel]

Well, at the show they announced that they're. They said it was their last tour dates as a band. So we went to both nights. At the end, they announced their Vegas residency.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Damn.

[Trixie Mattel]

Where they also announced their tour.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

That's a great gimmick. I love that.

[Trixie Mattel]

So when you and I go on tour, it's the last. I think no matter what, we should call our show Trixie and cut it for goodbye. Goodbye.

[Ad Break / Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Trixie Mattel]

You know, this is it. Farewell. Yeah.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Yeah. Bye, Roach.

[Trixie Mattel]

Bye.

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[Trixie Mattel]

I think during Law Roach. Yeah, style By Law Roach. Love. Okay, well, bye, Roach.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Bye Roach.

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[Katya Zamolodchikova]

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[Trixie Mattel]

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[Katya Zamolodchikova]

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[Trixie Mattel]

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[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Dude, this new bacon, egg, and chicken biscuit from AM PM total winner. Winner, chicken breakfast. Chicken breakfast? Come on.

[Trixie Mattel]

I think you mean chicken dinner, bro. Nah, brother. Crispy breakfast.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Bacon, fluffy eggs, juicy chicken, and a buttery biscuit. That's the perfect breakfast.

[Trixie Mattel]

All right, let me try it.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

Mmm.

[Trixie Mattel]

Okay.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

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[Trixie Mattel]

I'm gonna have to keep this right here.

[Katya Zamolodchikova]

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[Trixie Mattel]

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[Katya Zamolodchikova]

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