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Mary
That song. Semi charged charge. Semi charmed. Life in the 90s. I want something.
Katya
I hate that song.
Mary
It's about math, apparently. Well, great.
Katya
Is it?
Mary
Yeah.
Katya
I don't like songs about stuff.
Bob
Just kidding.
Mary
I hate the song.
Katya
No, it's about math.
Mary
Yes.
Katya
They say more.
Bob
I don't know.
Mary
Well, I was thinking this could be my new karaoke song. I really like it. And I looked up the lyrics, and as I was reading them, I was like, wait a minute.
Katya
Is it like the Pookies in my mouth with my torch lighter? Like, girl, you want to talk pookie? No, I want. How. You want to explain to me more about why this song is about method?
Mary
Well, let me show it to you.
Katya
Okay.
Mary
Did you watch the Debo documentary?
Bob
No.
Katya
She who doesn't watch tv.
Mary
Yeah. Snatched me together. Really? Snatched me together. It was incredible.
Katya
I'm not done with heated rivalry, but we ended on a cliffhanger, so I.
Bob
Want to.
Katya
Jump off the cliff.
Mary
So this song. I'm packed and I'm holding I'm smiling she's living, she's golden she lives for me says she lives for me Ovation her. Okay, wait, that's unpacked. I'm holding. And I could make you smile like a drug for you.
Katya
Okay. It could be about Benadryl.
Mary
No, no, no. It gets crazier. The sky was gold, it was rose. I was taking sips of it through my nose. I wish I could get back there some smiling. Okay. Doing crystal meth will lift you up until you break. Don't you think that's a little obvious?
Katya
That's. You're joking. Oh, my God.
Mary
Doing crystal meth left you opportunity. Won't break it won't stop, won't come Then I keep stop. Literally.
Katya
Doing crystal meth is in the lyrics.
Mary
Yeah. With a tick tock rhythm, a bump for the drop.
Katya
Okay, So I think that you're probably right.
Mary
And the thing is, when I was in college, I. Something about analysis, and we learned a lot about, like, metaphor. And I think this is not a metaphor. I think they're just saying meth some. You know, I had no idea she.
Bob
Was dragging that dead horse at the restaurant.
Katya
And I feel good.
Mary
Peace. It's like a rom com song.
Katya
I asked her, did you kill your sister? And he said.
Mary
He said yes. And I thought something.
Katya
Wait.
Bob
Cliffhanger.
Katya
Cliffhanger.
Mary
Oh, right.
Bob
Previously on Bald and the Beautiful.
Katya
Taxidermy or what? So Andrew and I moved to the studio. I'm just, like, taking care of the last little pieces of. In my red room, a taxidermied antelope.
Bob
Falls on my head.
Katya
The horn pierces my head in, gashes it open.
Mary
You better stop, Mary.
Katya
I got pictures and I've got stitches on my head right now.
Mary
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. You had to get stitches?
Katya
Honey, listen to this. So the contractors are at my house. It happens.
Mary
They did the stitches.
Katya
No, no, no, no, no. We did everything wrong first. So it hurt so bad because the thing was very heavy, so the weight of it, it's £20, £25. And the horn. The point of the horn broke off.
Bob
After it sliced me.
Katya
I was stunned. Like, I was. I was like, oh, it, like, hurts so bad. And I don't.
Bob
I haven't.
Katya
I mean, I haven't been injured in so long.
Mary
Like. Oh.
Katya
Oh. And. And I. I go. Blood just is. I grab like a. A cloth, soaked it in blood. I had to get another one. Then I go upstairs to the deck, and I. The guys are working out there. I just point to my. I go like.
Mary
I'm like, what do you want them to do? Help. Is Andrew there?
Katya
No, no, no, no. This is my. This is my house.
Mary
Andrew's. Andrew's not interested. You're bleeding. He's like.
Katya
He's like, no, but. So Lester, the. The contractor comes down. He's like. I'm like, I'm bleeding. And I'm like. Like silent screaming and pointing at myself. And we go downstairs, clean it with alcohol. Don't do that.
Mary
Burns.
Katya
Yeah, but also, it dries it out. It's not what you're supposed to do. Soap and water. But yeah, yeah. And then you press, press, press. We put three, four giant bandages on it. Bled through all of them.
Mary
What the.
Katya
Yeah, And I was like. Then I put, like, ice on it.
Mary
What day was this?
Bob
This was. Oh, gosh.
Mary
Was this after Christmas or before Christmas?
Katya
I have. I have the picture so I could. I can tell you exactly the date.
Bob
And I have.
Katya
Oh, girl.
Mary
Did you have to go to the hospital?
Katya
So I didn't go. I was like, that happened in late afternoon. And then I'm like, I don't know. I go. I Googled it. I was like. The gash was long. And so I'm like. It says, like, if the cut is more than, like, a half inch, you should probably go get stitches. So I had. Last year when. When one of the times I went cocoa Bananas, our manager signed me up for this, like, kind of fancy health service. And I got charged for renewal and I was. I called to like, get it canceled because it was a lot of money.
Mary
They come to your house?
Katya
No, no, no, no, no, no. But it's just like you go to them and you don't wait or anything. It's very, very fierce.
Mary
But it's.
Katya
It's very expensive. So I called the day before to get it canceled. Nobody answered. So I was like, shit, I. I want to go to the urgent care around the corner.
Bob
251 star reviews.
Katya
So I called the. I called this place and I was like, hey, I have this. I think I need stitches. I told them the thing an antelope fell on me and then. And they're like, by the way, that antelope.
Mary
Revenge of the antelope.
Bob
Thank you.
Mary
He didn't want to be on your wall.
Katya
How do we know that? What was she wearing?
Mary
Was he smiling?
Katya
I got a picture.
Mary
I've seen that antelope. He's like.
Katya
But so I. So I was. I was talking to the woman so nice. I was like, what should I do? Should I go to the urgent care? She's like, well, listen, it's where you're about 10 to 15, 10 to 12 minute drive from here. You could take 12 minutes to get here. And you must be seen immediately. There's nobody here. We will patch you up and you'll be out of here in 10 minutes.
Mary
Did that happen?
Katya
Or you can go to the urgent care. Wait three hours, Mary. I go there. It is in.
Mary
You need to tell me about this, mama.
Katya
I go to. It is.
Mary
Send me the link, baby.
Katya
This place was hidden. It was no door. Like, it was like. It was like you would not spa. It was like. It was so dark in the street. It was like you could never find. You know, they're like, it's.
Bob
It's this place.
Katya
You're not going to find the door. They. They buzz me in, girl. They treat me immediately so fiercely. The nurse is incredible. The doctor was amazing. I'm out of there in 15 minutes with stitches and I'm.
Mary
You need to send me this. Yeah. Because, you know, I need to go to the doctor every four days or so.
Katya
Any other hospital would have been. I just had a. You know what I mean? Like, people have, you know, motorcycle accidents. No, for sure, you know, And I don't have a PCP right now, so. Look, this is right here.
Mary
Oh, my God. Girl, that looks deep.
Katya
It's nasty.
Mary
Oh, if I was there with you and I Saw that. I would have said, we need to go to the hospital.
Katya
Well, so. It's huge, the lump. So that I got scared because I. I did. The pressure in the.
Mary
It was big.
Katya
The bump was big, and it was not stopping bleeding. I. I found a rag later completely soaked in blood.
Mary
Wouldn't it be fierce if all the meth, none of it damaged your brain, but this.
Katya
Was it an antelope.
Mary
Wouldn't that be fierce?
Katya
I mean, that is exactly what's gonna happen. I will be like. I'll be like hardcore drug user the whole night. I love it just to get hit by a car on my way to a meeting. You know what I mean?
Mary
Love it. Like being diabetic and getting hit by an insulin truck.
Katya
Yeah.
Bob
I want to.
Katya
Actually, I don't want to show you because the way that I had to give myself a haircut. I had to, like, shave around. And it is.
Mary
So. It's an island of hair right now out there.
Katya
It is. It is a strange island. It is. It is a. Not a Lost.
Mary
It's the movie Lost. It's Lost. It's the show Lost, the smoke monster.
Katya
But yeah, it's. It's. And I have to go back to get them taken out.
Mary
Shit, girl.
Katya
I thought they were going to, like, staple or glue or something.
Mary
That's okay. Listen, the story of this is you have this beautiful piece of art in your home that fell on your head.
Katya
Want to auction? I want to auction it off, because, girl.
Mary
Oh, it really broke that horn.
Katya
Holy crap, girl.
Mary
You're lucky it wasn't your eye.
Katya
I know. I love my eye.
Mary
I wish it was me and it fell up my butt. Wouldn't that be kind of.
Katya
Well, Andrew is in our new studio. We have Pegboard. And I was like, what if you come to the studio one day and have. I'm, you know, sitting on the pegboard screaming, Pegging. Yeah, so. But on the. On the wall, like. No, but it was. It sucked. And I'd never had stitches before.
Bob
They.
Katya
You know, they do the. They shoot me up with lidocaine.
Mary
This.
Katya
This fucking.
Mary
No, mama.
Katya
This doctor.
Bob
Not only.
Katya
This fudgeing whore. Not only was this. This fudge so beautiful. Her bedside manner was just sparkling. She was funny, personable, like, efficient. So good at her job.
Mary
Yeah. I had a similar. I've been having. We talked about it. My similar. My urinary issues, which have.
Katya
Oh, yes. What's the bladder situation?
Mary
Did you get stuff? No. I had to accept that this probably definitely had to do with my autoimmune Inflammatory disorders. Like that's what's going on.
Katya
Are you sure it's just because you refuse to pee during the day?
Mary
No, shut up. I went on some new. I have a new neuroimmuno doctor which is a doctor that just treats like.
Katya
How many stimulus are you gonna say?
Mary
I go to like five.
Bob
Jesus.
Mary
And. But he has me on peptides now for stress and it has helped a lot. So I can I tell you, I just want to say gratitude. Gratitude. Gratitude. Oh, I do. I do four shots a day now. It's fierce. I'm like. I'm like someone's 19 year old diabetic cat that they're trying to keep alive. Natural processes like pooping and peeing when they're not on schedule. You really realize how much you take it for granted?
Bob
Oh yeah.
Mary
Being constipated, not being able to pee.
Katya
Digital extraction.
Mary
So now I have to go to pelvic floor therapy. I'm dead serious. I went to two. Are you on therapist? And they both tried to stick their finger up my butt.
Katya
Are you a 72 year old woman?
Mary
I guess.
Katya
No, no offense.
Bob
72 year old women.
Mary
I have so much stress that you're all your smooth muscle practices down here are clenching. So nothing is. Nothing is peeing and pooping the way it's supposed to. Everything's grabbing your fight or flight.
Katya
You gotta get your cortisol. You gotta get that cortisol out.
Mary
See now I had to call my other doctor. The massage called that turmeric.
Katya
You need a turmeric. Julius from Squirrel.
Mary
Michelle has some autoimmune dysfunction. She's the only person I know who deals with it. And when I call her, she drops everything and talks to me about it. And she is a model human as far as that. Brings her own pots and pans to cook on. Like she has xed out. She brings variables where her body gets.
Katya
She brings her own airplane seat on the flight.
Mary
She's gluten free, dairy free, vegan. Like what? She's next level prohibitive with her health.
Katya
But like is it Demi Moore with like only raw vegan.
Mary
She basically was like Trixie, you cannot be having Celsius. She was like, you cannot be having energy drinks. She said you need to get your. She said you need to get your nervous system down. You don't need to be having caffeine and alcohol. She's like, you need to be like. She's right.
Katya
Bite the bullet. And you need to listen to asmr.
Mary
Well, guess what I got for Christmas.
Katya
What?
Mary
An inversion Table.
Katya
What is that?
Mary
Down. Decompress your spine.
Katya
Parasympathetic nervous system.
Mary
Excited. I've never used it. Haven't set it up yet. I hope part of my gift is that somebody also sets it up for me because I was just given it and now I'm like, oh, good, a project.
Katya
It's like being shipped. Like an IKEA furniture thing.
Mary
Yeah.
Katya
Okay, great.
Mary
And I've been working so much on music stuff at home. And I have my dining room set up with my little keyboard and my computer and I'm working on a bunch of new music. But I was thinking of converting my basement into a small studio. But I don't know if that's crazy.
Katya
Mary, what's happening to your body is crazy. You need to fight crazy with crazy. You think you need to fight crazy with insane.
Mary
But I'm trying to relax my system by making sure I exercise every day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sleep the full eight hours. Yes. Don't bomb my body with caffeine like I've been doing.
Katya
Sleep is not well. Yeah, you can. No caffeine. Sleep is non negotiable. And you have to meditate.
Mary
And breathing, like, deep breaths. Calming that. Like, it's corny. But taking the moments during the day.
Katya
It's not corny. Like the whole. When you get advanced in yoga, they like the pranayama. If it's not yoga, it's all about. The asanas are just like a lead up to breath control and meditation.
Mary
Yeah. They basically were just like, there's nothing wrong with your bladder. We think you're like clenching your involuntary muscles are not letting you pee. Everything's holding. I was having to. I was peeing probably 20 times a day and like a few tablespoons at a time. It was awful.
Katya
That h. That happens to me. Like, I have been. I think it's because I'm always having a ring on.
Mary
But I like a cage.
Katya
Cock cage. No, I sometimes, like, I have a hard.
Bob
Well, I said this before, cuz I.
Katya
Don'T want to fart.
Mary
You got to do it. You live alone.
Katya
I'm talking in the airport bathroom where the acoustics are like at the Hollywood Bowl. Straight men don't care, mama.
Bob
They.
Katya
They blow ass on the toilets.
Mary
And the vo. The vocalization, it's crazy. Oh, my God.
Katya
So delicious, girl.
Mary
Because I have house guests, I haven't been able to use my peloton, which is in the guest room.
Bob
Yeah.
Mary
So I've been going to the gym and I don't use. Where'd you go? The Planet Fitness. I've been a Planet Fitness member for probably 25 years at this point. I think I'm the first member. Me and Lindsay Lohan. Right. So I went to the one the other day in Studio City. It's in the second floor of a mall. I go, great. So I go in there, I start working out, I do my little workout, and I really do a good job. I got my blood pumping. And you know when you have inflammatory disorders, the blood pumping is magic. It just keeps everything depumped. Tell me why. I'm on my phone and I walk in to the bathroom and I go, oh, my God, that woman's in the wrong changing room. Embarrassing. So I just saw breasts and I go, oh, it's me. And I turn like a. Like a. Like a top. I freeze and turn like. Like an automated.
Katya
Like maybe she's got my mannequin.
Mary
I literally walked in. I walk in, I go. And I just walk out. And I'm. You know that scenario. If you ever go on the wrong. Well, I don't know if it's he, she, or we the. Or they, them. It was JK rolling with her tits out at the Planet Fitness.
Katya
That's why. That's why she's continuing. And you just gave her a lot more fuel for the fire, right? No. So what you do? Did you scream? Did she scream?
Mary
I didn't want to be rude, so I said, nice tits.
Katya
Yeah, look at those jugs.
Mary
No.
Katya
Oh, I'd like to slide my. Between those hot shirt over her head.
Mary
So she didn't see me either. So, like, we both. She was spared the embarrassment, and I just felt like.
Katya
And you gained the titillation.
Mary
It's not my normal gym, so I just walked in. And by the way, both bathrooms look the same, except W and M. One wicked witch. Like. Like the same letter.
Katya
And you were in a handstand, so you saw M. Yeah, so I just.
Mary
Walked out and went in the other bathroom. But also, I'm such a. I feel equally out of place in the men's room. I'm like, ladies, girl. Ladies with an attitude. Do you know what I mean?
Katya
Yes, I do know what you mean. I don't like any locker rooms.
Mary
I forgot my lock at the gym, so I had to buy a lock. The. Guess how much the Planet Fitness lock is. I got it from a vending machine in the men's room.
Bob
10 bucks.
Mary
$15.
Bob
Wow. Fears.
Katya
That's actually. That's actually not bad.
Mary
But it's the kind that you can make your own code And I'm telling you, at 36, we're. No, no new four number codes. I can't do it.
Katya
No, baby, I. I do my ATM pin on when I go to the gym because they have the ones that you just.
Mary
Yeah, you have to pick something, you.
Katya
Know, But Mary, how many times do you think I've gone down to the.
Bob
Front desk and say I forget which locker I had?
Mary
Oh, that's easy to do because it's not your lock on it. If it's your lock, you're like, that's me.
Katya
Yeah, but when there's no locker.
Mary
But that's what I mean.
Bob
Yeah.
Katya
So how about once I. We checked every locker in the wrong room.
Mary
Fierce.
Katya
But then now I always take a picture.
Mary
You have the same with parking. We had our little Trixie cousins. No, my.
Katya
It tells you where the car is, Right? But it doesn't, you know? Although I do have an air tag.
Mary
Oh, that's nice too.
Katya
I could probably ding it.
Mary
You could ding it. Do you have the type of app that tells you where the car is? Right.
Katya
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mary
Oh, great. Love that. I. I think the bubble has that. I don't know how to use it.
Bob
So it doesn't beep.
Katya
It goes, ah, nice tits. Yeah, nice jugs. I'm going to slide my. Through your tits.
Mary
Through the tits to. Okay.
Bob
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Katya
Your significant other, waiting to kiss them.
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Katya
Watch out, you idiot.
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Just wrote yesterday for this year's National Hot Pastrami Day.
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Mary
I went to. You know that place we went to? That, that. No, no, no. Century City Mall when we went on the meeting with our agents.
Katya
Oh, the one where.
Mary
By the way, I. I think it's okay to laugh about it now.
Katya
The one where they abandoned us on.
Bob
The side of the road.
Katya
We had to walk home.
Mary
Katie and I made this innocent joke on the pod that they all had and we had no cars, so we had to Uber home. That was the time. If you guys have been listening a long time, that was the time I was running to the Uber and I looked over my shoulder, smiling.
Katya
Oh, yeah, you were leaving me. Leaving Miss Smoking Robinson in the dust. I was like. So you were like Jackie Joyner Kersey. Oh, yeah, that was.
Mary
I was Shakari Wilson. It was awesome. I had a wig on.
Katya
Yeah, you didn't. Not one beat of sweat I show. I get in the car drenched, right?
Mary
I had. I had a wig on and popsicle sticks on the fingers. Smoking. Yeah, smoking a joint. So, by the way, we have to talk about the Olympics because it's coming to la, baby. We got to talk about three years, but it should start getting horny now. Put a clothes pin on your nipple now.
Katya
Well, I'm I queen, but Mary, the best seat of the Olympics is sadly at home. Of course, because the events I want to watch.
Mary
What?
Katya
I don't think you and I could.
Mary
Get a job commenting on the gymnastics flipping 100%. No, I think.
Katya
No, no, no.
Mary
100 they.com. you think men.com can get us in there.
Katya
Men dot com.
Mary
Of course. Gayety.
Katya
Do you really. Do you realize how NBC owns the Olympics? NBC.
Mary
So what?
Katya
So what? They are. Do you think NBC would let me talk sucking dick and cock at the Olympics?
Mary
And you did it at my birthday.
Katya
Yeah, and you did it at my. You did it at the event finals at women's gymnastics. Like it's, it's. They would never, they wouldn't let be near that place.
Mary
I would be.
Katya
You know, they're so conservative. Gymnastics is a very conservative sport. Very conservative.
Mary
I'm sorry, but they need to reach audiences and you have a loyal audience and you genuinely care about it. You can make it happen. Right now you're telling yourself it's not going to happen.
Katya
No, no, baby, you are being so Pollyanna right now. It's.
Mary
No, I'm not.
Katya
No, no, no. I'm telling you. Network.
Mary
I've been on the Tennis channel. That's different. You want to talk conservative, the tennis channel.
Katya
Were you doing on the tennis channel?
Mary
Correspondence about tennis.
Katya
Do you know about tennis?
Mary
But I like it. I'm still not sure how it's scored, but I like the outfits.
Katya
You're like love 50.
Mary
Oh, by the way, love 50. Love tennis. Love tennis actually.
Katya
Well, here's the thing. I actually if. If Simone's going to be there again, it's a huge like from Drag Race.
Mary
Yes, Simone. Cuz she's competing.
Katya
No, Raven Simonier. Right, right. What if Simone, Raven. Simone and Simone Biles were all tied for. No, I. The best see it in gymnastics is at home. It's one of the most popular Olympic sports. You don't want to ever go, I don't want to commentate because I, I like the sport too much and I have such a. I have too many opinions. If you listen to gymnastics commentating, it's so edited, it's so produced, it is so controlled.
Mary
Okay, well, it's okay, you don't have to do it.
Katya
No, I mean I love the idea obviously, but like I, I'm just going.
Mary
To keep dreaming things for you and why don't you keep aiming low?
Katya
Okay, but, but I would literally have to sit down and make a thesaurus for myself. Okay. Cunt means amplitude. You know what I mean? I'd have to like, I'd have to brainwash, like and, and I just wouldn't have the vernacular.
Mary
Use your own vernacular, girl. I would get on that microphone while people are flipping through the air. I'd be like, chad, are we cooked?
Katya
Like she ate that bar set.
Mary
Up.
Katya
Yeah, she shot on that beam for sure. She chewed that vault up to pieces. And all over it.
Mary
And all over it. Yeah.
Katya
Oh, she pissed on that rug.
Mary
On it.
Katya
Oh, what a flop.
Mary
Ooh, that stink.
Katya
Do you smell that? The on that beam girl.
Mary
Great. So what was it like going out there and on everyone?
Katya
Yeah, yeah.
Mary
Just.
Katya
So did you, did you pull your.
Bob
Leotard to the side when you on.
Katya
Your competitors or just do it right through the mesh? See, that's what they don't want.
Mary
Did you finish? Welcome to dairy.
Bob
I did, I did.
Katya
I surely did.
Mary
Can I like.
Katya
No, I liked it.
Mary
Oh, okay. And just like dairy and.
Katya
The dairy girls.
Mary
Yeah.
Katya
Nicola Coughlin was a little bit underused, I felt like.
Mary
I agree. If you blink, you miss her.
Katya
Yeah. I, Bill Skarsgrd, incredible, incredible actor.
Mary
Thought there was some really primo child acting.
Katya
Oh, baby. The way that I hate children actors.
Bob
But these all ate down.
Katya
Yeah, they really did. I, I, I thought they did a great job. I just, I'm not a fan of the styling of, of Pennywise in this, in this, in the new it. I, I, I, I, I hate it.
Mary
It's the rap dress.
Katya
It's the df, the dying. The DF Draft dress and the mules.
Mary
The Miranda Priestly kind of get up.
Katya
The mother of pearl toe buckle music. The 1 inch kitten here.
Mary
And the bang piece.
Bob
Yeah.
Mary
Can we match the color?
Bob
A stud.
Katya
Can I get a dangle?
Mary
Hello. And pick up the. No, no.
Katya
Where the, where the bracelet.
Mary
Right.
Katya
No, I, I mean, I love the, when the, you know, the, the, it.
Mary
Was thrilling when Pennywise became that big bat toward the end.
Katya
Oh, sure. Oh, that was, that was cunty. And of course the, the, the movie theater scene at the first episode was the car scene. And then.
Bob
Right.
Mary
The car scene was really scary.
Katya
Scene was scary. And it was a good, it was a really good, like, it was a pretty steep build up, but it was like, oh, it's like, oh.
Mary
Oh, yes. Oh. Oh. And then I also like, like, oh, this is the beginning of this cycle. It's Pennywise as a baby.
Katya
Yeah.
Mary
And then nothing was scarier. The whole season, nothing was scared to me than when they were watching the movie and their friend who's dead is in the movie, in the Music Man.
Katya
Yeah.
Mary
And then they all start talking to him. I'm like, okay, we're all dumb. Well, what about he's in the movie or dead.
Katya
What about chomp Chomp in the, with the umbilical cord?
Mary
That was crazy. Come to mama. The friends all Getting killed was crazy. In the movie theater.
Katya
Episode one.
Mary
Because you think these are people we're going to follow the whole season. Murdered, mom, brother, sister died.
Katya
You get one day use consecutive.
Mary
Yeah, but you can't even consecutive if it's a cousin.
Katya
You get 15 minutes in the break room.
Mary
Right. So they only take your arm off. You get the scene where. What's her name? Oh, God. The scene where she's in the supermarket and gets lost and her dad's pickles.
Katya
Baby pickle surprise.
Mary
Yeah, she really ate it up.
Katya
Yeah, she was. She did. She was stressed. She was the stress factor.
Mary
And she really like this super spoilers. Where the white supremacists, under the influence of Pennywise, of course, burned down the. The black clubhouse. The black spot. That was scary when.
Katya
That was scary when he.
Mary
When he dies. Yeah, that's scary.
Katya
I kid him.
Mary
Oh, the kid dies. Awful.
Katya
And she's. He's on the thing and she's. I was losing it because that little kid was so good.
Mary
Yeah, he was great.
Katya
He was so what? I mean, he's gonna be a superstar. Yeah, he was so what? Like a. I don't like precocious kids. That kid was so funny and so good. It was the saddest thing in the world.
Mary
These kid actors are. The girl plays Marge when she's chopping her eye with the saw. Yeah, those kids are acting. Yeah.
Katya
And she was.
Mary
She was scary. She was in love with. And then she's revealed to be the mom of.
Katya
Yeah. And also I thought he was going.
Bob
To come back for real from the dead. But he did come back.
Mary
It did. Yeah. The finger to Pennywise was fun. Yeah, it was great. I loved it. The guy who plays the young Dick Halloran was so good. Yes. Love that.
Bob
Yeah.
Katya
The. What else was like. Oh, Mary. Well, you know what, though? Some of the. Some of the. This, the CGI monsters like that old. That's me in the forest. Remember me in the forest chasing the cave. Yeah, we love that. Yeah, that was a little too close to home.
Mary
I also. I didn't love him as a. As a good Pennywise fan. I love Stephen King. The Deadlights are scary.
Katya
I. I loved that when the girl.
Mary
In the clown outfit is floating.
Katya
Oh, baby.
Bob
The procession, the. All the kids floating cty.
Mary
The tuba.
Katya
That should be Gay Pride event.
Mary
When he deadlights the whole school that was operating the principal like a puppet.
Katya
Spears. Scary spears.
Mary
And honestly.
Katya
And then he throws him.
Mary
Right.
Katya
Rips his head up or something.
Mary
Very good kid actors. So you really care what's going to happen.
Katya
Yeah.
Mary
I really thought Ronnie was going to die.
Katya
Which one's Ronnie?
Mary
The girl whose dad is being wrongly wrongfully convicted for murder.
Katya
Oh, no, no.
Mary
I really thought she was going to die, and I was scared, Mary.
Katya
I just. I hate Pennywise's costume, and I hate the hair and I hate the buck teeth.
Mary
So, as a clown, do you think he should be dressed kind of like a hot dog or what?
Katya
No, I think he should be like Katy Perry's Met Gal outfit.
Bob
A cheeseburger.
Katya
And if he really wants to scare people, put some mustard on it.
Mary
Right?
Katya
No, no. I think, like, I love the Tim Curry. I love the classic clown look, because I think that's more creepy.
Mary
But, you know, the young kids right now on the Twitter and the TikTok, they're sharing those 90s miniseries clips and going, y' all really think this is better than they. They don't live for it, Mary, but.
Katya
It'S a different kind of living. It's. It's. There's a depth to it because he's funny, too.
Mary
Yeah, he's. He's scary.
Katya
He's scary because he's real. Like, it's a real clown.
Mary
It feels realer.
Bob
He does.
Katya
There's nothing real about this Pennywise. Yeah, he's.
Bob
He's a.
Katya
He's a super, super monster. Whether the. You know, regardless of the backstory and.
Mary
We'Re experiencing that thing. I forget what they're calling it, but the thing where it's like, every movie looks like a Lord of the Rings movie. Everything is so post.
Katya
Everything is what?
Mary
Like a Lord of the Rings movie. Everything's in post.
Bob
Okay.
Mary
The miniseries, everything's like a lot of practical effects.
Katya
Yeah.
Mary
Yeah.
Katya
The miniseries is a very different.
Mary
The deadlights are conti, though, the head opening up.
Katya
Oh.
Mary
With the teeth.
Katya
And the love that Madeline Stowe as Sherry. Not Sherry Pie.
Mary
Sherry buying. Sherry buying.
Katya
Penny. Who. What is their name?
Mary
Queen.
Katya
Queen Periwinkle.
Mary
Thank you. Genuine.
Katya
I had the syllables right. Tony Braxton. Right.
Mary
Where she's. She's kind of. She's kind of chasing her dead dad.
Katya
Yeah.
Mary
And she kind of knows Pennywise isn't her dad.
Katya
Yeah.
Mary
And then she's still horny for it.
Katya
And then Pennywise lobs that dude's head half off.
Bob
Love.
Mary
Oh, love. When he finally. Pennywise bites the head off. The general deserved it.
Katya
Oh, yeah. Also, I like. I loved it when he was eating the.
Bob
The thing.
Katya
He was like, do I have face on my face?
Mary
Yeah, it was kind of. I also really thought of you. Well, Also, a bunch of people during a hate crime, being trapped in a fire was fudgeing. Scary.
Katya
It gave me.
Mary
Terrifying.
Katya
It gave me, like, what, it gave me Lovecraft country vibes or something. Yeah, it was so.
Mary
It was graphic.
Katya
Just tragic.
Mary
Scary, sad, horrible. I also thought of you, the scene where Bob Gray, when it's like the, the real clown.
Bob
Yeah.
Mary
Is outside with the makeup, smoking.
Katya
Oh, that's me. And, baby, you know I'm going to the woods.
Mary
Born in the game. I know you're going to the woods.
Katya
I live in those woods.
Mary
You live in the woods?
Katya
Yeah, I, I, But I still, Again, I like. No, it is. Bill Skarsgard is a very, very talented actor, but I just, I really, really hated the styling. It's too baroque. It's too rococo. It's like, it's like, it's just, like, too much.
Mary
You're mad.
Katya
I'm, I'm pissed.
Mary
Right?
Katya
And I, I, I don't, I don't think I can go on. Okay. What else did you watch?
Mary
Oh, well, I'm excited because I thought Thousand Pound Sisters was canceled, but now it's coming back, so I'm flipping out because I like to follow that. And I'm still waiting for the new season of Gypsy Rose Blanchard. Life After Lockup.
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Katya
So Prestige tv.
Mary
I've been watching Love After Lockup, which is about people getting out of jail and they get to reunite with someone they met in jail. Like, oh, a lot of people in jail have girlfriends or boyfriends outside of jail. What do you think that is? People who want relationships.
Katya
Oh, they.
Mary
Inmates. They want pen pal relationship with inmates. You want it?
Katya
Yeah, because I know I'll be an inmate at some point.
Mary
Do you think it's a comfort of the proximity? Like, it doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to become more. Because it gets to be long, longer.
Bob
I don't know.
Katya
I mean, I love, I think pen pals are. I had a pen pal, French one.
Mary
I'm okay with a penal, but I still want to be able to put the dick in my mouth.
Katya
Oh, I see. But that's a dick pal.
Mary
A sexless relationship.
Katya
Well, I think it's probably an issue of, like, it's flirting with danger without imminent, you know, it's like, oh, my God, yes, my. Yeah, my boyfriend's on death row because he murdered 16 people. But we have great correspondence.
Mary
Where are the people jerking their paninus? In jail, there's no privacy. Just everywhere.
Katya
Are you, Are you kidding me? Do you how many. You know, how Much bumping and grinding.
Bob
There's going on in jail.
Katya
That's the only thing they're doing in there, really. They're lifting weights and they're fucking.
Mary
Somebody tried to fight. What are you nuts?
Katya
Wait, wait.
Mary
What? What? I just went to, like the violence of jail. And then I went to something that had happened yesterday. I was running on Hollywood Boulevard because I've been feeling better, so I've been jogging.
Katya
Somebody tried to fight you.
Mary
And when you're running and people are walking, I noticed sometimes they get scared when they hear running coming up from behind them.
Katya
But don't you. As a runner, aren't you very aware?
Mary
Oh, I'm going around. I was not even close to him. Yeah. He turned around and started calling me a lot of race, racial names and then said he was going to beat me up and started following me. So I just ran further. Ran more. You're my headphones.
Bob
You're joking.
Mary
Why would I joke?
Katya
Why would he call.
Bob
What slurred would he call you?
Mary
N word.
Katya
Okay.
Mary
What? I think he was a little crazy.
Katya
Oh, you think?
Mary
But he scared me and I was.
Katya
Like, girl, I got Kelly Clarkson in here.
Mary
I'm. I'm. I'm running Kelly Clarkson. Daylight Hoka on Hollywood Boulevard. There's people everywhere. Yeah. It's not like I jumped out of a bush. Yeah.
Katya
Oh, I got called a. Oh, I got called fiercely. A faggot. It was actually exhilarating, this queen. It was. I was, was. I. I was in my car and these kids, it was kind of diabolical.
Mary
They really.
Katya
They really zeroed in on me and clocked my tea so fiercely and just went like, dead.
Mary
Faggot. A kid. Two kids. How old?
Katya
Probably like 35 now. Like 16, 17.
Bob
Teenagers.
Mary
They were in a car or what?
Katya
No, they were on. They were on the street and they.
Mary
Just yelled faggot at you.
Katya
They were like zeroed in, like laser pointer to the forehead. Faggot.
Mary
And can I just say, too, I.
Katya
Was like, the thing is, it doesn't.
Mary
Hit the way you think it hits because I know. Yeah. It's like, oh, what are you talking about? Wait.
Katya
Oh, I've known that since 12.
Mary
And.
Katya
Yeah. And then what? Faggot.
Mary
You're welcome.
Katya
Yeah. Like, what's. What's the next thing? When Andrew and I got gay bashed in West Hollywood at the corner of Sunset and Laurel, the gayest corner in the world.
Mary
I would gay bash Andrew, but we.
Katya
Were walking and some guy in a truck just screams faggot at us. And we're like, we're like.
Mary
It was. It was exhilarating in West Hollywood. You're gonna yell faggot.
Katya
I was like, mary, you are the minority. Maybe that's why there's. If they. They feel the need to assert their.
Bob
Whatever.
Mary
Yeah. And I'm not saying we should skip to violence, but I'm saying, like, it doesn't hit the way you think it hits.
Bob
No.
Katya
Well, it doesn't.
Mary
You're actually gay. It's like, who.
Katya
Well, that gets. Let's get back to heated rye rolling.
Bob
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Katya
As I open a can of Shirley.
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Katya
So I. There's a lot of hate. There's a lot of people. There's a funny tweet. It's like you love a show, you go on Twitter and people will just hate it. You know what I mean? It's like they'll hate you for loving.
Bob
A show on Twitter.
Mary
Also, no one hates something like people who love it. Drag Race fans who, like, hate hate Drag Race hate. The producers hate RuPaul.
Katya
But this is different though, because they're not even watching it. They're like, these are just gay guys who are like, fuck that. They're just allergic to joy. They hate love and they don't want romance or tenderness or beautiful lighting or big butts or interesting storylines or whatever. And that's fine. If you want your AIDS and your death and your meth, go ahead. But like, I don't want to watch the Normal heart. I don't want to watch in the Band played on.
Bob
I've seen it.
Katya
It's traumatizing. I want an MM Fujoshi romance where nobody dies. And every. Like, if I were 14, 15, 16, and a budding queen, I would not like. I cannot take it for granted how fierce that would be.
Mary
Yeah.
Katya
Mary, this is like a gay thing. That's actually, like. It's. I.
Mary
Maybe that's why people like Heartstopper.
Katya
Of course that's why. Yeah. Because it's wholesome.
Mary
But I think Heartstopper was lacking the gay porn that the straight women.
Katya
No, no, no, no, no. This is. That's. Those are children. Those are children. These are athletes who are in their twenties.
Mary
Right.
Katya
That was. That was high schoolers.
Mary
So, you know, but It's Netflix. They're 45.
Katya
Well, they got a lite.
Mary
Right.
Katya
You know, but this is like they're the. Like, I. I feel so bad about objectifying their butts, but there were so many times where I was like, I had a boner. And then I would just cry, cry, cry, cry.
Mary
That's good, though. It's good to cry.
Katya
Oh, I love. I love crying.
Mary
I feel great after I cry.
Katya
I love crying.
Bob
I told you.
Katya
I was on the plane watching ghosts.
Bob
And I had to.
Katya
I had to close the laptop because my ghost.
Mary
Will you up, girl.
Katya
She was getting a concern. The woman next to me, she was getting really nervous and I didn't want to, like, I didn't want to be like. I didn't even get to the bank scene.
Mary
In the spirit of saying the wrong things to celebrities. Continued.
Katya
Yeah.
Mary
At Vanderpump's Dog Yellow, which I do every year. Lovely.
Katya
Cause you know you can't talk to dogs, right? They don't listen.
Mary
I know, but I go and I say, and I always. We do like, you know, the motel or someone. We give something for an auction. I won something. I just wanted to participate. No, I wanted to participate in the charity. And they do like an auction and I won something.
Katya
What did you win?
Mary
I forgot.
Katya
An all exception.
Mary
Oh, it's a trip to like a trip to Vegas.
Katya
Jamaica.
Mary
It's a trip to Vegas to see like a Cirque show. Oh, I think that maybe you.
Katya
Have you not seen it?
Mary
Well, I bid on it because I wanted to do, you know, be a good guest and. And. But have you money?
Katya
Have you seen.
Mary
Oh, no.
Katya
You have to go.
Mary
I think that's what I'm going to. I don't know. But. And I got a two night stay somewhere and so. Lovely, lovely, lovely. And then somebody else was trying to bid against me and I was in Dragon. I stood up and said, don't even try it.
Katya
You don't have it.
Bob
Thank you.
Mary
Then they stopped bidding.
Katya
Yeah, and then you punched him in the face.
Mary
I got a pretty good deal.
Katya
You gotta go see. Oh, I'm telling you, it's so incredible.
Mary
Maybe that's the one I'm going to.
Katya
I don't know anything besides the Michael Jackson one or the Beatles one.
Mary
Okay, so then. Oh, Garcelle. Do you know Garcelle Bovet? Yes.
Katya
I don't know why I know that name.
Mary
Yes. So she is.
Katya
She's an actress.
Mary
Yes. She wasn't Survival the Thickest. Do you remember we watched that on Netflix. So she's also been in everything and she was a hard choice. Yeah, she's gorgeous. So we're. She's at the table too. And we're sitting and chatting, chatting, chatting, chatting. And I just was trying to make conversation because I don't know. And I go, so Garcelle, I was like, we've met a few times. But you know, I'm trying to make conversation. And I go do. Well, one time we shared. We shared a car to the airport once, leaving an event, she and I, and It was at 4 in the morning. So she and I were like going to the airport at 4.
Bob
You're trauma bonded.
Mary
Awful. Yeah. And I go, have you ever done drag race? You know, I said, I wonder if you've done. Because you know, like Lisa Randall, the Housewives had done drag. I said, I've ever done drag race? And she said like, yeah, I did. I did do drag race. And I go, oh, what season? That's so crazy. Looked it up. All Stars. She was there. What's. Do you have a new year, new vibe?
Katya
I do eat more ass.
Mary
Okay.
Katya
No, I have it. Yeah. No more. I'm throwing away my moisture readers and then I am going to anxiety inducing moisture. No more moisture readers. I'm not doing it. I'm not a contractor.
Bob
I'm not a mold expert.
Katya
I'm not a remediation technician. I'm not a carpenter.
Mary
Well, it's a little like going to the doctor and then telling him what you googled.
Katya
It's going to the doctor bringing a stethoscope.
Mary
But you know what? No, I feel both ways about it because on one hand it's like, I don't want to tell the doctor that I googled something. On the other hand. But of course, doctors 99 of the time will send you home saying there's nothing wrong with you. I don't know. You could be shooting blood out of your face. And they're like, have you been sleeping okay?
Katya
Yeah. It's like, did you eat a banana today?
Mary
So sometimes you do have to, like.
Katya
I don't know, go down a WebMD rabbit hole.
Mary
What do they call it? Being your own advocate or health advocate.
Katya
Yeah, but. Or just eschewing eight years of higher learning and, you know, I think it's okay to contribute. It's Doing research is never a bad thing as long as you're doing it diligently and not just like saying Gemini. Hi, I have this. But the. The doctor. Mary, I gotta go to the dentist.
Mary
Go to Dr. Sun.
Katya
I think I'm gonna have to, because I can't have those. I can't have those F words. Indiana Jones. My mouth again.
Mary
What do you mean?
Katya
I mean that they take a pickaxe.
Mary
Dr. Sun's really good and she's really.
Katya
Nice and did she have a gentle. Is she gonna.
Mary
Very kind. She's attack me apart. She knows she's trying to kill me. Thing you could ever know about teeth.
Katya
I got to go back to the Russian guy with brown teeth who smokes before he sees me because cleaning is really important. He says, you have the most beautiful teeth ever seen in my life. As he blew smoke into my face and like, flashes fear. I was like, yeah, love that. He's like, you have nothing wrong. Get out of here. Of course.
Mary
What.
Katya
I don't.
Mary
What about every pelvic floor therapist trying to put a finger in my butt?
Katya
That's assault.
Mary
Apparently what they do is put the fingers up there and they feel for you and try to train you to relax everything because they're like, you're tense. We can feel it. Because we all carry too much tension. Apparently it's really common.
Katya
You know, it's Mula Bunda. You gotta. You gotta. You gotta get into some shishumna nadi, the Central channel. I think you get. I think you need to get a little woo woo. No, no, you don't need to.
Mary
I've been woo woo. I've been woo wooed out.
Katya
But like, no, no, no, no.
Mary
I'm Wu Tang Clan.
Katya
But like the. So the.
Mary
I.
Katya
There's Richard Freeman. Was this, like, a really good yoga teacher. Is, like, very well respected and has a very interesting way of talking about the body. He's like, he talks about getting the PC muscle online and, like, he uses.
Bob
A lot of the computer metaphors for.
Katya
Like, activating the different, like, deep, deep muscle groups in the pelvic floor. You got to Go to one of his workshops and do the yoga.
Mary
Yeah, that's what I'm having to do. Woo woo.
Katya
It's not. It's like woo woo. But it's not like. It's not snake oil.
Bob
There's actually.
Mary
I don't think woowoo means snake oil.
Katya
Woo does often imply includes snake oil or snake oil is a part of the woo woo. Bless you. But like.
Bob
Third.
Mary
Wait.
Katya
So, okay, two things. I got three goals. You asked me. 20, 26. I got three goals.
Bob
Center split number one.
Mary
Okay.
Katya
I'm working diligently at it. I'm making very, very little progress. Every day I stretch and try to do it.
Bob
Second goal.
Mary
Every day I wake up and wish you were dead.
Katya
Is that from Marriage Story?
Mary
Adam Driver.
Katya
So much drama.
Bob
Too much drama.
Mary
It's fierce.
Katya
Girl. Take an Ativan, go for a walk. Break up, Have a. Have a milkshake. Yeah. Break up, break up.
Bob
Have a nice turmeric. Julius from Squirrel.
Katya
So wait, anyways, I got center split number one by the end of the year. Then I want to fucking Uber driver consensually.
Mary
Right?
Katya
And then I also want to fucking Uber eats driver.
Bob
I was talking to Bob about it.
Katya
He gave me a great strategy. It was. It was actually really compelling. It was really compelling. But I don't do UberEats, so it's.
Mary
That's.
Katya
It's got to be grubhub. And I don't know about that.
Mary
I'd be careful. Pushing yourself on the people bringing you food.
Katya
It's not pushing. And I'm. And I'm the opposite of a pusher. That's why I haven't done any of this stuff. But so I often get Russian speaking Uber drivers. It's like almost four out of five.
Mary
How'd you meet the guy who's asked you? Eight. Grinder.
Katya
Grinder?
Mary
Yeah. Is it everybody just talking to you because you're Katya?
Katya
No, I. He knew who I was, but it wasn't. He wasn't weird about it.
Mary
Grindr was cooked for me because everybody's just.
Katya
No, it's not cooked for me anymore because, like, a lot of you know. I know. Seriously, I don't want to be any more famous than I am now.
Mary
And you won't. You won't.
Katya
Like, I love like you, mama. You rise. You go, go, girl. Get up there, girl. I love girl.
Mary
Oh, my God. Girl, you.
Katya
Oh, I see you, girl.
Mary
Oh, my God.
Katya
I can't even see you.
Mary
Oh, my God. That.
Katya
That, like you're in the hot air balloon.
Mary
Meme where they're swerving in. The car's floating. That's me. Is.
Katya
I'm the little girl with the balloon. And you're like, way up, but. Yeah. No, I grew up.
Bob
I don't want to.
Mary
That.
Katya
I don't want.
Mary
Can I tell you.
Katya
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Third goal. I said it.
Mary
Mine is just to take better care of myself. Relax. And to relax, you need.
Katya
You need to get the PC muscle online.
Mary
I'm doing. I'm gonna be doing sleeping. I'm gonna be doing therapy. I'm gonna be doing water drinking, meditation, exercising. Meditation. Deep relaxation techniques.
Katya
Meditation. And then you gotta.
Mary
Oh.
Katya
Oh, no. The Bible. The Bible. Don't you dare read the Power of Now.
Mary
Okay?
Katya
Don't do it. You'll hate it. I'm trying to do that reverse psychology thing. Is it working?
Mary
I think out of anybody, you are in a place to give people life advice.
Katya
No, I'm not giving you advice. Don't you dare read it.
Mary
Okay.
Katya
No.
Mary
Something happened to your brain when that Ranalo fell on your head.
Katya
Do you think that was the thing? But something, probably the antelope, fell on.
Mary
My head, and now I can speak Cantonese.
Katya
No. I woke up with a foreign accent syndrome.
Mary
Isn't that crazy?
Katya
It's not real, by the way.
Mary
What?
Katya
It is absolutely not real.
Mary
Who's bacon?
Katya
All of them. I woke up speaking in a Chinese accent, and I'm from Melbourne.
Mary
Mama, you're mentally ill. Yeah, it's fierce.
Katya
Yeah, it's like.
Mary
Mine would be so low. It would be like, oh, I, I, I went to bed with a Milwaukee accent and woke up with a Green Bay accent.
Katya
It would be like, Yeah, I went from. I went from, like, Southie to Dorchester.
Mary
Yeah.
Bob
Yeah.
Mary
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Katya
Nothing good. I'm gonna go out a wild limb and say that nothing good happened at the TikTok. Were people kicking shoes?
Mary
I looked incredible.
Katya
Were people kicking shoes?
Mary
No, I didn't see that.
Bob
Were you doing.
Katya
Were you in the TV dress?
Mary
Yes.
Katya
That was cunty.
Mary
How did you remember the dress? And forget the aphasia of me.
Katya
Aphasia.
Mary
Aphasia Barino. No. Yes.
Katya
The tv. I. I have. I have social media, and I do check it from time to time.
Mary
And I got these two dancers, Go go dancers. And I've done something Go go dancers never experienced, which is cover their bodies and their face.
Katya
Did you use the helmets?
Mary
TV helmets? No, these were different helmets Jacob made. These are TVs. So we do the red carpet. Lovely, lovely, lovely. All of these interviewers who want to interview me have no key light. They're just overhead light asking you questions. It's like, what the Are any of you doing? I forget who talked to me. Somebody was like, what's the biggest faux pas? The Tick Tock Awards, whatever. And I said, not having a light.
Katya
Next or kicking a shoe and having it not transition.
Mary
Take a shoe, but have it have a light on.
Katya
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mary
Kicking a shoe in the door.
Katya
You got to see the shoe turn into an outfit, right? It's. Oh, God.
Mary
So I do little red carpet and then I get to present. And get this. This was fierce. The show starts at 7. I'm set to present at 7:05, and then I can leave.
Katya
That's horny. Did you get bricked? Bricked Brick. Yeah. As you're leaving the stage, you're like, oh, I get a hold behind my. Oh, no, it was at six.
Mary
The show's at six. So 5:30, I'm there, I have one little glass of wine because, you know, I quit drinking.
Katya
Did they. And did they shut you out of the red carpet?
Mary
No, not this time. They couldn't stop me and everyone. And you know, it's the Tick Tock Awards. And I was like, these online creator award shows. Yeah, it is a little bit first time out of the house for these people.
Katya
You don't say.
Mary
You know what I mean?
Katya
I think I've been in the stream.
Mary
Yeah, it's very.
Katya
Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's very. Where the shoe. I need to kick a shoe.
Mary
Right? I need Kathy Griffin. I need to speak to a gay person. I need to speak to a gay person. So I'm back. So they come get me at 5:40 because they want me to be ready for 6:05. I'm like, sure. So I sit backstage. I'm just waiting, waiting, waiting, talking to these lovely couple who won the Bachelor. Talking to them about being on the Bachelor. It was interesting to hear them talk about dating and just like a drag race. They take their phones and stuff. Yeah, we're all sitting back there And I'm in drag and I don't know, I don't. I'm like I said, I'm not really drinking, so I'm just having wine and tequila.
Katya
So I'm just doing coke.
Mary
Yeah. So I'm backstage just waiting and dragging.
Katya
Powder on the menu.
Mary
And I look great. You know, some days with your makeup, you just lock in.
Katya
I looked great.
Mary
I don't know what did.
Katya
It looked great. You look fabulous.
Mary
And they go, we're holding, we're holding. And then they come back and they go, all of the screens are out on stage for the Tik Tok Awards. Every screen is out. And so we're holding. And so me and some of the creators that go first, like Mikey the rapper with the bucket hat, of course. And then Ashby. Do you know her? She's a comic.
Bob
Absolutely.
Mary
So we're all just sitting there talking, talking, talking, and we're waiting, and suddenly it's 650. We're still all waiting. And the creators, everybody nominated and everybody invited is seated out there. 50 minutes. And I've worked at this venue. Not good air conditioning. Not good air conditioning.
Katya
But what are they doing? If they. Are they on TikTok?
Mary
They're just sitting.
Katya
Just sitting.
Mary
They're sitting, they're sitting. And I only know the beauty people, really. So I can see the beauty people peppered in.
Katya
Anybody kicking shoes?
Mary
Nobody's kicking shoes.
Katya
Do they do that anymore? Do they do this anymore?
Mary
I don't know.
Katya
You know, like, no.
Mary
Now it's the. Come with me to try the viral shit sandwich. Like, you know, today.
Katya
Okay, Take this. This is a new thing. I don't like fit. Outfit is not a hard word. It just. It's not like a long word. And it also.
Mary
Mary, there. I'll clock the fit. At least make it something good.
Katya
Honey girl, that outfit doesn't fit. And it looks like shit.
Mary
Yeah, but like check the fit.
Katya
Check like outfit of the day. I get acronym, whatever. That's fine. This nice fit.
Mary
I don't.
Katya
I don't like it.
Bob
I don't want it.
Katya
And I think it's stupid. It's like. It's like. You don't have to abbreviate a two syllable word.
Mary
Right?
Katya
Especially when it. When it is so perfectly describes exactly what you're talking about.
Mary
Right.
Katya
There's no ambiguity there.
Mary
So what we had to do was they come back there, oh, you're gonna love this. And I'm like in a weirdly good mood. And you know, sometimes when you're driving, you're a good mood. You're like, let's just roll with it. How fun, right?
Katya
No.
Mary
The only drag queen somewhere.
Katya
I'm like, and you looked great.
Mary
And straight people always are going to treat me like I'm a paid party favor, so I might as well try to be in character and, like, enjoy myself. It's like, very. But I'm determined to enjoy. And we're running behind and, you know, all these straight people with their hair and makeup teams. Straight, straight, straight celebrities being inconvenienced. This is World War 4, right?
Katya
This is the worst. This is. They're so shocked and betrayed.
Mary
Shocked and betrayed. Right now. You did it at my birthday party. So they come back, this woman comes back with a headset on. She goes, all right, everybody, presenters, what we're gonna do in five minutes, we're, you know, rain or shine, we're just gonna start. So unless it gets fixed, we are just going to be presenting without the screens. And then in the live feed, they'll throw to video packages in the edit. So we won't have the. We won't be able to go. And the nominees are. And have the screen behind us. They're just gonna throw to it. Fine. Because all these influences are trapped, right? And this is the one hour a year they've left the house. Yes. Right. They're freaking out. They're stimming. They have the fidget toys. They're freaking three babes up their ass entirely. So I go. They go, yeah, we're just having problems with the live feed. And I go, oh, question. She goes, yes. I go, I have my phone here and my iPhone. It's an iPhone 16. It has TikTok. Did you guys want to use my TikTok? I thought this was hilarious to suggest something not helpful in earnest. And I'm in drag. Like, if you want, I have it plugged in. I'm at like 8, 18. And if we start now, I have the battery. She goes, what? And I said, oh, so I have my iPhone here. It's this iPhone 16. And I have the Tik Tok app. And what we could do is we could live stream it from my Tik Tok.
Katya
I have 18% and I have.
Mary
I have three point. I have 4.2 million followers. So I could do that for you.
Katya
And I have, like two bars back there, probably three out there.
Mary
And I said, and she borrowed me her phone charger, and she borrowed me. Oh, I think it was Paris H. Hilton's team. I had my phone charged into their. I said, they Borrowed me.
Katya
Like, I've got this extension cord in my bag in my car.
Mary
And I said, did you want to use my iPhone? No one in the room laughs. Mary, that's like 20.
Katya
That's social media influencer.
Mary
She doesn't laugh. Of course she doesn't laugh, because it was the type of thing where she's. People are about to get fired.
Katya
She's stressed out.
Mary
Yeah. And I'm just trying to lighten the mood.
Katya
Yeah.
Mary
And I'm what, bimbo clown?
Katya
You're throwing shoes up here. Nobody's kicking them.
Mary
It's not my. It's not my ministry. It's not my zoo. Yeah.
Katya
Not your zoo.
Bob
Not your circus.
Katya
Not your monkeys.
Mary
Not my monkeys. Yeah. So not my snakes. Not my church. Not my snake church.
Katya
Not my strict nine.
Bob
Not my church.
Katya
We're gonna get back to my.
Mary
Not my ammo. Not my. Not my ammo. Not my emo. It's not my Emil. Not my.
Katya
Not my bath house. Not my girl. Not my gum. Dumb girl. Oh, bath house.
Mary
Bath house. So I go, did you want to use mine? And she says nothing. And the room says, all my friends. I'm like, hello, people from the Bachelor. I thought we were. I thought we were my friends now can no one laugh? No one laughs. She goes, no, it's okay. And walks out. And I go. I turn to the room, I go, I tried.
Bob
Wow.
Katya
Love the humor at TikTok. Is really unreal.
Mary
What are we gonna do? It's 50 minutes. There's no air conditioning here. And I know that because I did sell a pink disco there and almost died. So I know it's hot when you're.
Katya
Kicking shoes, you're using a lot of energy, Right? Energy expenditure produces sweat.
Mary
And mind you, I'm not drinking, so I'm having tequila, neat. You know.
Katya
You'Re just doing acid, right?
Mary
You just. And I was told at 605 I would be in a car, so it was like, you know, the Tick Tock Awards will flop.
Katya
The Flip Flop Awards.
Mary
I. I know you get this. When I'm in drag, I just can't go sit and watch something. No.
Katya
I'm sitting and talking to an audience.
Mary
So it's like, I'll present or do the red carpet, but I actually can't sit through an award thing.
Katya
I wouldn't do a red carpet.
Mary
I can't.
Bob
Not with the skin.
Katya
Not with my chicken neck.
Mary
I can't.
Bob
No.
Mary
And in a city. In a city where no one goes up to anybody. Something about drag. Oh, that's tacky. That's really tacky.
Katya
TikTok Awards.
Mary
It was fine. It was fine. It was still fun. Good lighting.
Katya
Well, you're in a great mood because you looked fabulous.
Mary
Oh, I know.
Katya
I walked up to the microphone, right?
Mary
Yeah. I walked out and I said, thank you all for being here and thank you for being on time. Kind of funny, fun stuff.
Katya
Yeah, yeah. The iPhone bit, that's. That's funny.
Mary
Oh. And then I said, it's comedy. If you guys don't know me, I'm Jennifer Coolidge. I love a nice little icebreaker.
Katya
Oh, like, so when I. At the stream is when I said I was Charlize Theron. Crickets.
Mary
No one said anything.
Katya
Crickets. Of course, I also didn't present what.
Bob
I was supposed to do, but do.
Mary
You know who else was. Who opened? Do you know Lala from, like, mtv? She hosts all the different stuff. Lala Anthony, I believe her name is. And you know when you're in drag, you have more nerve to say hi to someone. So I was like, I'm gonna go say hi. And I go, oh, my God, Lala, I've seen. You've been on my television my whole life. I said, I've seen you in so many things. You look beautiful. Your glam team. I always compliment the glam team if they're there, because the glam teams get these whores together, girl. The makeup and the hair, she looked amazing.
Katya
Yeah.
Mary
And I'm like, so cool. Oh, yeah, the TikTok Award is fun. So what have you been up to? Oh, that's great. Gay Pa comes this close to me and goes, we need everybody out of this area now. Like, I just. I run. I run.
Katya
You take her person.
Mary
And then surely enough, as soon as I get out of frame, a live feed starts and they actually start something. So I think I was actually just walking onto, like, a hot set. And luckily, I'm not such a bitch that I'm like, no, tell me where to go. I just ran.
Katya
That smells so bad.
Mary
We gotta go, we gotta wrap.
Katya
Because not only are we done, but there is a dog farting in the.
Mary
Studio and it's turning me on during my Lala story. I'm sorry, Lala. Bye.
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Episode: The Silence of the Hooves
Date: January 13, 2026
Hosts: Trixie Mattel (“Mary”), Katya Zamolodchikova, Bob the Drag Queen (guest appearances)
In this characteristically chaotic and candid episode, Trixie and Katya deliver their signature blend of pop culture musings, medical misadventures, and raw comedy. The queens swap wild injury stories (including Katya’s close call with a taxidermied antelope), dissect the realities of living with chronic health issues, ponder dreams of Olympic TV commentary, and spill on both recent TV obsessions and cringe-inducing award show appearances. Their conversation is peppered with unexpected heartfelt moments, unfiltered life advice, and plenty of inappropriate humor.
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Trixie and Katya’s banter oscillates between gleeful absurdity and genuine vulnerability. Their observations are delivered with biting wit and a refusal to take themselves (or the world) too seriously. Underneath the relentless drag queen humor, they offer real talk about injury, chronic health, the medical grind, queer resilience, and the audacity of living fabulous amid the chaos.
If you missed the episode, this summary gives you the essence: chaos, candor, and comedic gold—served bald, beautiful, and brutally honest.