The Jimmy Dore Show – Candace BREAKS SILENCE On Blockbuster Meeting w/ Erika Kirk!

Date: December 19, 2025
Host: Jimmy Dore
Main Guests & Panelists: Regular co-hosts Kurt and others; Extended clips and commentary from Candace Owens

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into Candace Owens' highly anticipated public response following her closed-door meeting with Erika Kirk (Charlie Kirk's widow) about the controversial investigation into Charlie Kirk's assassination. Jimmy Dore and his co-hosts scrutinize Owens' revelations, dissect establishment narratives, and highlight Owens' charges of institutional gaslighting, cover-ups, and online smear campaigns. The conversation blends sharp skepticism, satirical humor, and a determination to reveal what they call the "real motivations" behind the Turning Point USA (TPUSA) shooting investigation and subsequent media frenzies.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Candace Owens Breaks Her Silence

[02:02]–[13:49]

• Owens Opens Her Podcast: Candace begins with sardonic greetings, mocking those who questioned her integrity post-meeting:

  “Okay, everybody, Shabbat shalom. I just want to say Shabbat shalom to everybody back at home…Israel does have a right to defend itself… Tucker Carlson is Adolf Hitler, and TikTok does need to be purchased by the Mossad.”
  — Candace Owens, [02:54]

• Addressing Backlash Over Her Tweet: Owens is frustrated by conspiracies claiming she “got the call” and was compromised by TPUSA:

  “The amount of people who attacked me…‘She got the call. She’s betrayed us!’…It’s all a show.”
  — Candace Owens, [03:56]

  Jimmy and Kurt interject with ridicule about online psyops and paid shills.

• Owens Details the Meeting with Erika Kirk and TPUSA Lawyers:

  • The main topic: The lack of evidence against Tyler Robinson (the alleged shooter).
  • Candace says lawyers admitted they have nothing more than what the public knows:

    “What we have seen is what they have… They have nothing… So why are you signaling, why do I feel like the public’s being gaslit on this?”
    — Candace Owens, [06:49]

  • She rejects establishment statements of “overwhelming evidence” as deceptive and unconvincing.

• On the Integrity of the Investigation:

  • She found it alarming that key witnesses—such as a ballistics expert present on the roof—were never contacted by investigators:

    “He did not see that person take the shot…And yet investigators haven’t reached out… I don’t understand the confidence…”
    — Candace Owens, [12:35]

  • Candace questions the zeal with which officials seem to pursue only one narrative and finds the lack of outreach suspicious.

• Jimmy’s Analysis:

  • Jimmy asserts that the real “cover-up” is for the benefit of “Zionist donors or Israel,” not truth, and that the investigation is being misdirected to protect interests beyond American justice:

    “They want it to go away because they don’t want it to reflect badly on their Zionist donors or Israel.”
    — Jimmy Dore, [13:49]

Media Gaslighting, Psyops & Paid Smears

[09:59]–[15:24]

• Accusations of Psyops: Jimmy speculates that coordinated online attacks slamming Candace are “military grade psyops” possibly funded by “APAC, Mossad, Israel, CIA, or FBI.”
• Candace herself remains adamant:

  “I am very confident stating the opposite of all of my, I guess, well paid peers in that I don't believe that Tyler Robinson pulled the trigger.”
  — Candace Owens, [11:01]

• The crew repeatedly jokes about the implications and ineptitude of security, connecting it to a broader pattern of official misdirection (citing JFK, Trump’s ear shooting, mass shootings).

Candace’s Stand: No Compromise, Ongoing Skepticism

[18:25]–[20:58]

• Firm Stance:

  "I have not changed my position…I am not going to stop researching the characters in this that I don't feel good about."
  — Candace Owens, [18:25]

• The hosts praise Candace’s consistency and her refusal to “roll over” after the meeting.
• They lampoon the notion that she was “bought off,” presenting online smears as the byproduct of paid influence campaigns.

Clash with Tim Pool Over Security and Credibility

[23:02]–[30:16]

• Tim Pool’s Contradictory Claims:

  • Candace plays clips of Tim Pool first accusing her of lacking security, then claiming she had the exact same security team as Charlie Kirk.
  • Owens rebuts in detail, naming security contractors and denying any overlap:

    “I have never employed the same security team as Charlie Kirk, ever… I got my own security separate from Charlie from the very beginning. Okay. That's a fact.”
    — Candace Owens, [27:40]

  • She ridicules Tim for escalating his rhetoric and threats of litigation.

• Hosts’ Take:

  • The panel jests about security team incompetence, jokes about “one fat guy” being a better guard than an “expensive corpse-maker,” suggests the security’s failures might imply deeper involvement in the cover-up:

    "So his security team was either the most inept security team in the history of security teams or they were in on it."
    — Jimmy Dore, [30:40]

  • They lambast the establishment media and YouTubers for advancing inconsistent, obviously self-serving narratives.

The Trump–Adelson–Israel Connection

[32:48]–[47:28]

• Wild Hanukkah Dinner Clip ([32:48]):

  • Trump jokes about receiving $250 million from Miriam Adelson, admitting her and her late husband’s outsized influence:

    “Miriam gave my campaign indirectly and directly 250 million. She was number one.”
    — Donald Trump, [33:03]

  • Panel reaction: Outraged—mocking the open admission of donor dominance and questioning whether Trump is ironically revealing America’s true power brokers.

• Trump on Prioritizing Israel Over America ([34:17], [35:25]):

  • Trump describes the Adelsons’ singular focus on Israel; brags about moving the U.S. embassy, recognizing Golan Heights.
  • Host commentary lampoons those supporting Trump while despising precisely the pro-Israel influence he showcases.

• Notable Quote:

  “He was a fantastic man. And he loved you so much he couldn’t see straight.”
  — Donald Trump (on Sheldon Adelson), [36:33]

• Panel’s Satire:

  • Riff on “Zio-America” and the normalization of foreign-influenced policymaking.
  • Compare Trump’s present policies to past criticisms he made about political puppets and donor control.
  • Satirize the lack of media attention to actual (not Russian) foreign oligarch influence—

    “The amount of media airtime wasted on blue-anon fantasies about… Russia oligarchs controlling Trump while ignoring the pro Israel oligarchs like Adelson, who actually controlled Trump, it's probably worth another $250 million for Trump.”
    — Jimmy Dore (referencing Aaron Maté), [47:24]

Egyptian Planes and Debunking the Smears

[49:33]–[56:48]

• Erika Kirk’s Rebuttal and Candace’s Response:

  • Erika Kirk denies any substantial link to Egyptian planes, says “I was pregnant” for nearly all relevant trips, and ridicules the notion she was “on the planes.”
  • Candace Owens and Jimmy immediately debunk this:
    • No one accused Erika of literally flying on Egyptian planes—the point is that those planes “coincidentally” traveled to the same cities as TPUSA events.
    • Community Notes (X/Twitter) confirm Erika’s claim is a straw man.
  • Tucker Carlson clip confirms the factual basis of the “Egyptian planes” claim:

    “That is factually true… What does that mean? I have literally no idea. I can't even guess. But that's very, very strange.”
    — Tucker Carlson, [55:13]

• Critique of Erica Kirk:

  • Candace:

    “The correct statement…was, ‘I actually had no idea that there were Egyptian planes that were there that day...But I obviously sent that right over to the FBI just in case it’s not a coincidence. We’re leaving no stone unturned.’ That’s what she should have said instead of making up a lie...”
    — Paraphrased Candace Owens, [53:43]

  • Hosts mock Erica’s “privacy” while she simultaneously leads a media blitz, including filming herself over her husband’s coffin for social content.

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Media Gaslighting:

  “Establishment media sucks. All gaslighting, so good luck. Bullshit.”
  — [01:45]

• On Candace’s Critics:

  “Those were people who are paid. That’s called a psyop. A military grade psyop.”
  — Jimmy Dore, [09:59]

• On the Trump–Adelson Relationship:

  “Nothing says ring in the Hanukkah like $250 million.”
  — Jimmy Dore, [33:09]

• On Security & Incompetence:

  “So his security team was either the most inept security team in the history of security teams or they were in on it.”
  — Jimmy Dore, [30:40]

• On Official Investigations:

  “No trust in the FBI. Assume they’re lying. They have to prove to me that they’re not in on it now because they keep doing it.”
  — Kurt, [16:02]

• On Public Manipulation:

  “Why do I feel like the public’s being gaslit on this?”
  — Candace Owens, [06:49]

• On the “Egyptian Planes” Story:

  “That is factually true… But that fact is true.”
  — Tucker Carlson, [55:13]

• On Donor Influence:

  “He just wanted to take care of Israel. So he was a great guy.”
  — Donald Trump, [36:24]

• On Continuing the Investigation:

  "I'm not going to stop. I'm not going to stop investigating the shady people at TPUSA. There it is."
  — Jimmy Dore, [19:13]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:02] – Candace’s podcast opening; sardonic/ironic tone
• [03:56] – Retelling of social media backlash/“controlled opposition” accusations
• [06:49] – Candace challenges the supposed case against Tyler Robinson
• [11:01] – Candace accuses establishment of lacking proof, asserts her independence
• [13:49] – Jimmy proposes Zionist donor/Israel connection for the cover-up
• [18:25] – Candace’s resolute vow to continue investigating TPUSA
• [23:09] – The Tim Pool–Candace Owens security incident
• [30:40] – Critique of security incompetence and possible complicity
• [32:48] – Trump at the Hanukkah dinner; $250 million from Adelson
• [53:43] – Dissecting Erika Kirk’s debunked “Egyptian planes” straw man
• [55:13] – Tucker Carlson confirms factuality of Egyptian plane connection

Tone, Language & Style

• Irreverent, satirical, and combative—The hosts frequently ridicule institutional power, paid media, and online influencers, while praising candor and investigative courage.
• Cynical distrust of mainstream institutions and conventional narratives—a through-line in both Dore's and Owens’ rhetoric.
• No-holds-barred language—Both hosts and guests lampoon, exaggerate, and utilize charged language (e.g., "fake and gay," “Zio-America,” “psyops,” “gaslighting”).
• References to modern conspiracy, progressive skepticism, and social media culture feature heavily throughout.

Summary Takeaways

• Candace Owens remains openly skeptical and critical of both TPUSA leadership and official narratives regarding Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
• She stands against pressure from both within and outside her political circles, is suspicious of institutional motives, and continues to dig for inconvenient facts.
• Jimmy Dore and his crew frame establishment attacks as coordinated psyops designed to stifle dissent and protect hidden benefactors (notably, Zionist donors and their connection to U.S. politics).
• The show asserts that official stories surrounding political violence and foreign influence are deeply untrustworthy, requiring public skepticism and independent inquiry.
• Notable media figures (Tim Pool, Erika Kirk) are called out for hypocrisy, contradictions, and misinformation—with the panel providing receipts and fact-checks in real time.
• The broader satire skewers American political donor culture, opaque investigations, and the spectacle of media self-parody.

Notable Final Thought

“Never lie. Because then you don’t have to remember anything.”
— Jimmy Dore, [60:50] (quoting Mark Twain)

For listeners: This episode captures a pivotal moment in the culture war over trust, the role of donor influence in American politics, and the fight for transparency in high-profile criminal investigations—served with Dore’s trademark mix of satire and skepticism.