Candace DESTROYS TPUSA Leaders' LIES About Her Interview!

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The Jimmy Dore Show

Episode: "Candace DESTROYS TPUSA Leaders' LIES About Her Interview!"

Date: December 8, 2025
Host: Jimmy Dore
Key Guests/Impersonations: Mike McRae (impersonating multiple voices), Stu Peters (recorded), "Kevin Spacey" (comedy segment by McRae)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the ongoing feud between Candace Owens and Turning Point USA (TPUSA), specifically the organization's leaders and their supposed mishandling and obfuscation around Owens’ interview requests and allegations. Jimmy Dore exposes what he frames as a series of lies and unethical tactics from TPUSA leaders, particularly around attempts to silence and discredit Candace Owens. The show also covers broader issues involving media manipulation, FBI narratives about the January 6th pipe bomber, and U.S. foreign policy motives in Venezuela, with signature irreverence and scathing political humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. TPUSA vs. Candace Owens: The Interview Fiasco

• Jimmy Dore’s Big Take: TPUSA’s leaders are actively ducking Candace Owens rather than facing her allegations head-on. Owens compiled a list of their lies, but TPUSA avoids genuine engagement.
  • "TP USA is flipping out and everyone sees through them. And Candace Owen has nailed them again." — Jimmy Dore [02:00]
• TPUSA’s Maneuver:
  • Blake Neff (TPUSA/Charlie Kirk Show producer) responded publicly, inviting Owens for an in-person discussion in Phoenix, but at a time inconvenient to her — announced late at night, with no attempt at private coordination.
  • Owens responded that she was available for a virtual stream to accommodate, stating she would even skip her own show. TPUSA refused, insisting on in-person only.
• Tactics on Display:
  • Public announcements of debate times before privately confirming with Owens (Dore calls this a "box you in" move).
  • When Owens accepts, TPUSA redefines the terms (“We are not booking a guest. We are delivering a response…”).
• Dore’s Commentary: Strongly critical, accuses TPUSA of bad faith, semantic games, and being “shady as F.”
  • “You're supposed to contact them, find a mutually agreeable date and time. You don't need to publicly announce the date before it's confirmed. It's transparently obvious what you're doing here." [08:10]
• Notable Ratio: Dore highlights social media metrics where TPUSA figures were “ratioed” — their tweets attracting far more negative responses than likes, signaling public distrust. Dore boasts ratioing Blake Neff himself. [09:36]

Notable Quote

"She accepted it. You guys declined. She accepted it. She accepted it... So of course. So people are sniffing this out."
— Jimmy Dore [11:13]

Memorable Moment

• Dore lampoons TPUSA for demanding Owens be present in-person, when the norm for news is virtual interviews (mentions Piers Morgan, Fox News, etc.). [15:03]

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2. The “12 Lies” List: Candace Owens v/s TPUSA's Public Narrative

• Recap of Lies: Dore reads out a compilation of what Owens claims are verifiable TPUSA lies, covering issues like finances, the role of key figures, factual inaccuracies surrounding an incident involving Charlie Kirk, and supposed fabrications about security protocols and relationships behind the scenes.
  • Examples include: "Charlie was a committed evangelical who only liked Catholic architecture," "Charlie's neck stops a 3006 bullet because Charlie ate salad," and financial audits.
• Deeper Allegations: Dore adds that TPUSA lied about drone coverage during a security incident, contradicting each other’s statements in podcasts and media appearances.
  • “He wasn't directing anything. Charlie's body was in and gone before he ever stopped walking away. He didn't do anything.” [22:08]

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3. Media Manipulation – The January 6th Pipe Bomber Narrative

• BlazeTV Investigation: BlazeTV alleged a former Capitol Police officer (now CIA) matched forensic evidence for January 6th pipe bomber.
• FBI Suddenly Finds a Suspect: Months later, FBI arrests Brian Cole Jr., a 30-year-old black man, sparking skepticism given five years' delay and contradictory evidence.
• Dore’s Framing: Claims the FBI manipulates narratives to protect establishment interests or perpetuate certain political agendas.
  • “None of this seems real. So is what he's saying real?... So what are we to believe? I don't know.” [32:04]
• Skepticism About FBI Motives: Cites Thomas Massie’s disbelief: “Three things I'll never believe about the 1-5-6 pipe bomb story. 1 the bomber was a lone wolf. 2 the FBI was this incompetent for four years on the case, this consequential and 3 perpetrators were pro Trump.” [34:38]
• Contrasting Reports: CNN calls suspect a “white man”; Dore mocks the obvious racial confusion in media reporting. [36:25]

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4. U.S. Foreign Policy and Venezuela: Zionism, Oil & Power

• Stu Peters Segment: Stu Peters argues that Trump’s fixation on regime change in Venezuela is about securing oil, but also rooted in Zionist interests; he details statements by Venezuela’s Maduro equating Zionism with Nazism, criticizing Israel’s actions in Gaza.
  • “Maduro labeled Zionism as more dangerous than Nazism... They’ve sown an ideology more dangerous than Nazism. You can't do that.” — Stu Peters (as quoted by Dore) [45:41]
• Dore’s Analysis: Echoes that the U.S. agenda in Venezuela is dictated both by resource hunger and deep financial interests (central banks, IMF, private equity) interwoven with Israel’s regional goals.
  • “If you look at it from that... Now you have now you know... because I couldn't get over what Trump's obsession with Venezuela is besides the oil.” [56:04]
• Critical Debate on Language: Dore and Mike McRae debate (in character) the need to distinguish between anti-Zionism and antisemitism; rebuke using “the Jews” as a scapegoat, pointing instead to “Zionists” and multi-faith international syndicates.
  • “If you say the Jews, you're an asshole. You're not helping.” — Mike McRae [49:09]
  • “Most of the Jews I know aren't for this.” — Jimmy Dore [49:25]

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5. Satirical Segment: “Kevin Spacey” in Exile

• Premise: Mike McRae, impersonating disgraced actor Kevin Spacey, delivers a comedic update on his new life as a musical act in Cyprus and Tel Aviv.
  • Joke about Israel being a "haven" for men fleeing sex crime allegations ("No extradition treaty. Yes, please. So, yeah, there's a real sense of community here. It's a real scene, if you can dig it. We are pedophiles.") [61:49]
• Dore’s Satirical Response: Feigning sympathy, Dore heaps snark on Spacey’s “success” entertaining “war criminals and being a sex criminal yourself.” [62:55]

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• TPUSA Interview Fiasco & Candace vs. TPUSA: [02:00] – [16:48]
• 12 Lies of TPUSA Recap: [16:48] – [20:50]
• January 6th Pipe Bomber/FBI Narrative: [24:03] – [41:20]
• Venezuela, Israel, Zionism, and U.S. Foreign Policy: [41:20] – [57:14]
• Kevin Spacey Satirical Comedy Bit: [57:40] – [63:06]

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Memorable Quotes

• On TPUSA's Tactics:

  "You're supposed to contact them, find a mutually agreeable date and time. You don't need to publicly announce the date before it's confirmed. It's transparently obvious what you're doing here, but you're all shady as F..."
  — Jimmy Dore [08:10]

• On FBI's New 'Suspect':

  "If you believe the FBI, you are the chump of all chumps. And I believe the only people who actually say they believe it are people being paid to say they believe it."
  — Jimmy Dore [40:43]

• On Blame and Language in Middle East Debate:

  "If you say the Jews, you're an asshole. You're not helping. Zionists, the due dissidents... Boys are Jews. They're not for this. Saying the Jews, everyone... It's not cool. You're helping Zionists when you do that."
  — Mike McRae [49:09]

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Episode Tone & Style

• Outrageous, irreverent, satirical, and combative.
• Heavy on sarcasm, internet humor (“ratioed”) and Dore’s signature mix of performative anger, political skepticism, and comedic improvisation.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a high-energy deep-dive into the Candace Owens vs. TPUSA saga, unraveling the organization's evasive and manipulative tactics through Owens' and Dore’s perspectives. The show bolsters its skepticism of establishment media and political narratives by dissecting both the January 6th pipe bomber media story and the real motivations behind U.S. hostility toward Venezuela, tying American foreign policy to global finance and pro-Israel politics. The episode is peppered with biting humor, especially in its comedic phone call “from” Kevin Spacey, and urges listeners to be critical of mainstream explanations and narratives.

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Transcript

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TP USA is flipping out and everyone sees through them. And Candace Owen has nailed them again. And they and they've been ignoring, you know, Charlie Kirk's whole thing was that ask me a question, I'll answer it. Ask me anything, I'll answer it. So TP USA without him is like we're pretending there are no questions and we're not answering anything. And so it's finally gotten so bad. Now whistleblowers are coming out from inside TP USA saying their financials are shady, they've got donors problem, all kinds of stuff. And so they finally decided to answer Candace Owens. Candace Owens has a list of 12 lies that she's caught him in already. We've caught him in more, but here. So. So they invite. So this. This guy invites. This is Neff. He was a producer of Charlie Kirk show, and he's now on air all the time. And here's what he said. We plan to walk through everything carefully and thoroughly. If Candace is available, we would sincerely welcome her participation in. In that livestream at our studio here in Phoenix. So at this point, we believe the ball is back in her court. So. So, so he. He. This is after a list of BS stuff he said about her and called her crazy. Well, if she's so crazy, why would you invite somebody onto your show? Why would you dignify her with a response? It's because she's not crazy and she's on to something and it's not looking good for them. So she. They just invited her on her show. Hey, let's go. We're going to go over this. So Candace Owens says this.

Find out. You can pick the place, you can pick the time. I say we do it tomorrow. We don't need to plan for this. We don't need lawyers in between us. Lawyer statements. It's not how I roll, okay? I don't care about any of that. I want to be authentic. Like I said, you can take the money. You can. We can raise money, live for this conversation. That is how badly the world is demanding it. So I accept it. With whistles and bells. Everything I fully accept. I say let's do it tomorrow. Do it tomorrow. And my only ground rule is no assassinations. Okay? No assassinations. No funny business. You can't pretend you're gonna do.

So there she goes. First he says the ball's in her court, which sounds a little racist. Talking about basketball with a black woman. Come on. Am I kidding? You mean tennis courts? You guys are so racist. So racist. So.

She says no assassinations. That's what. That's her. That's like cutting the balls off someone who uses their actual balls to do everything. It's just not right.

Come on. Assassination is American as apple pie with a pipe bomb in it. Come on. Am I right?

So I guess that's not asking too much. Don't shoot me with a deer rifle. But anyway, there she is. So she's like, let's do it. Anytime, anywhere. Let's do it. So this is what they did. So Blake Neff says the live stream we announced on the show Wednesday has been set. You mean you, you called Candace Owens and she agreed and you guys got the time down and how long it's going to be and what the ground rules are for the discussion and the debate? No. What, what did you do? At 4pm Eastern, 2pm Local time on Monday, December 15, a collection of Charlie's friends will respond to statements made by Candace Owens to set the record straight once and for all prior to the opening of America Fest. That's their big thing coming up. We'll be live streaming from Charlie's Phoenix studio. Our offer from yesterday holds. If Candace wishes to join us in person in Phoenix, she is welcome to do so. She can let us know by the end of today. So they put that out at like midnight, I think Candace lives in Tennessee. They put that out in midnight, her time. So it was, it was 10:21. Anyway, Phoenix time. So Candice response. She says, kind of weird how you didn't email me or call me to ask about times or availability and chose to instead tweet the confirmation out at midnight. Why am I learning about this on Twitter?

December 15th does not work for an in person and 2pm Pacific. Because that's her husband's, her husband's birthday. A and B, that's the last week she's doing shows before Christmas. She says at 2pm is also the literal time. I do my podcast live every day, which you knew. But we will happily cancel the daily podcast and we'll join you guys virtually instead for the livestream on the 15th. If that works on your end. Let's lock it in. So just like every news show does these days, they have someone virtually on their show through a live stream, through a zoom or you know, Tucker Carlson used to send, when he was at Fox, he would send a van to my house and I would sit in the van and then we would do it. That way I didn't have to be in Tucker Carlson Studio. So that's, that's, everyone knows this is how you do news now, right? So she's saying, okay, I'll do it. You want to do it on that day at that time, I'll skip my show that day to come on and we'll do it virtually. Okay. Said all money can go to TP USA that day, all the money, she didn't care.

And yeah, it's exactly right. She said that, you know, you can raise money off it, whatever you want to do. And she added, I will also add that I am happy to jump on Charlie Cook show any day before then virtually as well. Any day. Any day you want her on. She's willing to come on your show any day. I was serious when I said we could do it today. Even virtually. I can make it happen pretty much any day because it's easier to move things around with kids and find someone to sub for my morning homeschooling. So she's saying, I'm available to do it whenever you guys want, but I'll do it virtually like all new shows do. Okay, so you want to know what happened?

She. So they said. So people said to. Hey, this. So let me just skip. I. I'm. I'm burying. I'm burying it.

He comes out and says, yesterday we made it clear that we would be scheduling a formal response to the allegations and accusations you have made. We decided that response will be delivered during a live stream on December 15th. Thank you for responding, letting us know. Responding, like to a tweet? I mean, you didn't send an email to her or a phone call or a text you sent. You just made a tweet on your Twitter page and she's supposed to respond. So she did. Thank you for responding, letting us know you will not be joining the in person conversation. We will be proceeding without you. So they found a way. So here's what I said. Well, I knew you'd pull something and here it is. I responded to that guy, Blake Neff. Everyone, including you, knows this is not how you book a guest on a show. You're supposed to contact them, find a mutually agreeable date and time. You don't need to publicly announce the date before it's confirmed. It's transparently obvious what you're doing here, but you're all shady as F, including all the pastors you're associated with. Nice ratio, by the way. And why I say nice ratio is because he got ratioed on that tweet calling out, saying to Candace Owens.

So if you look at the ratio, he's got 9,000 likes, 13,000 responses. So that's called being ratioed. When you get more responses than likes, that's not a good look. That's called being ratioed. So then I say that back to him. I also ratio him.

I got 15,000 likes. I ratioed the F out of him. He comes back to me again, this guy, he says, of course it's not how you book a guest. We are not booking a guest and never said we were. We are deli. What? So. So you're booking a person who's not a guest on your show, but it's not a guest. So you're going to book a news person with the number one show in the world and you're going to book that person on your show, but it's not as a guest.

So this is how you know these guys are liars. They do stuff like this constantly. We're not booking a guest. Well, that's what a person is who comes on your show. So you're going to play some weird semantics game. When a person comes on your show that's called a guest on your show, that's called a person who's on your show, AKA a guest on your show. So they go, we are not booking a guest and never said we were. We are delivering a response to several months of escalating harassment and lies. She was given the opportunity to join as a guest.

How was she supposed to join you? Not as a guest. I'm here, but I'm not a guest. I'm just a person. Person.

She was. She. You. You gave her the opportunity to join. She accepted it.

She accepted it. You guys declined. She accepted it. She accepted it. And the standard of practice and news organizations from coast to coast over the globe is someone joins you virtually. In fact, they. The day before yesterday they had on that. Oh, I'm blanking as name the head guy they had from TP usa. It was Alex Colbert. He was on virtually just like. But he wasn't a guest. But he wasn't a guest. I'm sure he wasn't a guest. So of course. So people are sniffing this out.

People are sniffing this out. Let's.

So.

Mitch says this wasn't an accident. It was a. It was a box. You in maneuver announce a date publicly before confirming, force you to decline, then inevitably act like they. They tried. Textbook move. When you don't actually want to face someone, it definitely feels that way. No other reason not to call us and ask if it works, especially considering they called us multiple times the day before.

So this guy says this is cowardice and in person is never going to happen. So he's. He's claiming that Candace Owens is ducking this.

No, Graham, cowardice is you cashing checks from Prager U to go after me while pretending this is organic. Influencers taking money to attack people is Cowardice. Oh, didn't know he was taking money. Turns out she does. There's another one. They want to create the perception. We tried to answer her questions, but she didn't show up. They treat Charlie's audience like they're stupid. That's why the show is floundering in its wake. In his wake. It's actually insane. They didn't even contact you to work out a time and date. Extremely disingenuous. They extend an offer you accept.

Even say you'll do it today, and then they don't even work out a time with you. Sounds more like they want a gotcha moment. Shame. That's exactly right. That's exactly right.

So you know everyone, including you, knows those. That's how you book a guest. So he says, of course I say, hey, you're not booking a guest, you're ducking a guest. Which is obvious. You doubling down on your transparently shady behavior every time everyone sees through you, which is why you're getting ratioed on your posts. And I ratioed him on that post.

He got 3,000. What is that, nine? What is that number? 8.6. 8.6.

So, no, you're not booking a guest, you're ducking a guest.

We're not booking a guest. We were delivering a response and she, she. No, she's. So there you go. So time after time, these guys get ratioed after ratio after ratio because they're transparent used car salesman liars.

Here's another one. What did she say? And these are the people defending TP usa. What did she say? Anytime, anywhere. But now. I guess the vibes just doesn't feel right. No, she's still willing to do it like a normal person does a show. They. She's going to do it virtually. They do that all the time. Every show does that. Piers Morgan, his whole show is people coming in virtually.

So don't act like this is she's ducking it. She's not. The people ducking it are TP USA.

She's 100% willing to join them over Zoom or Streamyard or whatever, just like every other news show does. This is weak sauce.

So just to let you know who Blake Neff is, he was the head writer for Tucker Carlson and he was forced to resign after years of posting vile, racist comments under a pseudonym. That Charles xiii. Is that what that is? A nod to a celibate king of Sweden and for cyber stalking women? And I'm like, could that be true? So H. Banana says the same thing. Grok, is that true? Grok says yes, the claims are accurate. Blake Neff resigned as head writer for Tucker Carlson show in July of 2020 after CNN revealed his racist and sexist post under the pseudonym Charles the 13th on auto admit. Charles the 12th. Is that that. Is that the 12th? Charles the 12th and auto admit including threads that harassed and mocked specific women.

So that's real.

He sounds like a solid guy. So he sounds like a solid guy.

Photo again. But a random jagoff comedian can. A random. You want to see the photo of him again? There is. So a random jagoff comedian can easily ratio that guy over his lies. Obvious duplicity. Obvious lying about inviting. We didn't. We're not booking a guest. You're booking a person. So that's not how you book a person. So just here's what Candace Owens also has to say.

We should recap very quickly.

So you want to know all the lies that they've that so this is what's here's. Here's just a recap of some of the lies that Candace Owens has caught them in here. Here you go.

The verifiable lies that we have thus far been told by Turning Point USA themselves which apparently they're trying to say it's off limit. So now you can't call out all these lies at Turning Point USA has told you this is what they're trying to struggle session us into because Erica Kirk is now the CEO so they're off limits. So they're allowed to lie. No, no, that's ridiculous. We will not be following that. Here's our list. And this is by no means definitive. Okay, this is getting this together briefly. It told us these lies. The amazing, heroic, magnificent Mikey McCoy had blood all over him. That's a lie told by Pastor Rob McCoy. Charlie was a committed evangelical who only liked Catholic architecture. That's a lie told and reinforced by Alex Clark and Andrew Colvett. By number three is that Charlie's neck stops a 3006 bullet because Charlie ate salad. He had strong bones. It was a modern day Christian miracle. That's a lie. The offender is Andrew Colvette. Another lie. Charlie never blinked in his support for Israel. Offender Josh Hammer, BB Netanyahu. Insert Zionist here. Many Zionists. Christian Zionist influencers as well. That turned out to be a big lie. An unnecessary lie. Lie number five, the magnificent Mikey McCoy called his dad first. That's a lie. Rob McCoy told that lie. Number six is Terrell the AV guy was told to remove the cameras by police. That's not true. I have every second of his moves, that offender would be Tyler Boyer. Okay. He lied.

So Tyler Boyer was the COO of Turning Points usa, and he's also involved in a lot of shady financial deals that Charlie was going to look into.

So Charlie caught on to these financial deals. Tyler Boyer is at the center of most of them, and so that's who he is. Okay. And they lied about the. Oh, the cops told us to take those cops and tell you. Then they changed their. There you go.

Number seven. Terrell moved the SD cards because people were stealing hats. Question mark. Andrew Colvett. What if you were scared about people stealing? Maybe remove the cameras.

Yeah. So if you're afraid of people stealing, you wouldn't just go up and take the SD card out of the camera because the camera is so expensive. You would take the camera. No one's going to jump in there and steal the SD card. They're going to steal the camera. So, again, these are just. These guys are amateurs, which is why they're lying left and right and getting caught in it. And the biggest lie she doesn't even mention, but I'll give you that in a second.

Very expensive cameras would be the thing that they would steal. What are they going to do with your SD card? They're going to resell that. Like. That doesn't make sense. Those are pretty cheap, right?

Lie number eight, Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk never had any bad blood between them. The offender there was Alex Clark. Ben Shapiro was on her show, and I don't know why she tried that little bit of propaganda when she knew that wasn't factually true. 9. Charlie established Doge, and that wasn't unusual. Turning Point financially audits the company every year since its inception. Lie. Doge was entirely different from the apparatus of financially auditing yourself, which is recommended and actually in some states, required for a company that size. That's 500, 1, C3 and 10. Like I said, this is by no means definitive list. Mikey McCoy was a hero that day. Now, you could say that. Subjective. But I feel like that, like, objectively to be a hero, you can't just make quick phone calls. I don't know. I. I mean. And not include 911 in that list. So.

So the thing she didn't even mention there was how Tyler's security team got caught lying about drone coverage. She didn't mention that. Right. The drone coverage. She didn't mention that. So they said that they weren't allowed to fly a drone over the vent.

They said they weren't allowed to. That the head of his security team went on that CIA guys podcast. I'm blanking on that guy's name. What's that CIA guy's name?

If Kurt was here, he would know. But anyway, he went on there and said we weren't allowed to fly a drone. Well, we have Frank Turek on video saying, yes, we were flying drones over and we were looking at pictures. Is it Sean Ryan? Sean Ryan, Sean Ryan, CIA show, Ex CIA. Sean Ryan's podcast, which all of a sudden became a number one show out of nowhere. But anyway.

He. That had a Charlie security said we couldn't. We weren't allowed to. But then we have Frank Turek saying, yes, we had drones over there. We were looking at video of them in real time. So to me, that's the, that's the killer of the. Of all lies. There's lots of lies.

I. You know, how about the one where Mikey McCoy's dad, Rob McCoy, the pastor, says he was covered in blood and then he immediately started directing. He got his wits about. He wasn't directing anything. He was 100 miles away. He had walked away. He could. He was a dot IN the video. That's how far away he was from the, from the crime scene. He wasn't directing anything. Charlie's body was in and gone before he ever stopped walking away. He didn't do anything. So there's so many lies. TP USA is so over Candace Owens. Now they're ducking Candace Owens. They won't. Of course they're ducking her. Of course they're ducking her. If you had the truth on your side, you'd go on her show. Not only that, you'd make every accommodation you could to get her on your show. Everyone, if you have truth on your side. No, she's not doing it our way. She can't do it. She's not going to do it this time. And at this exact time, she's not going to be here in person at this exact time. And then that's that.

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Less than a month ago, BlazeTV said they identified who the real January 5th pipe bomb planter was. And it turned out a former Capitol Police officer is a forensic match for the January 6th Pipe Bomber. Sources say. So that immediately that came. So that was less than a month ago. A forensic analysis of A female former U.S. capitol Police officer's gate is a 94 to 98% match to the unique stride of a long sought January 6th pipe bomb suspect. A source close to the congressional investigation of January 6th additionally told Blaze News evidence has emerged recently that they pointed toward law enforcement possibly being involved in the planting of the pipe. So we know that the January 6th was mainly FBI psyop, right? So they had hundreds and hundreds of cops and assets and FBI agents inside the crowd. They had them inside the Capitol dressed as MAGA supporters, FBI cops. Before the riot ever started, they went in, took off their police uniforms, put on MAGA hats and MAGA stuff, and then. Yeah, so we know this. We know that this was an FBI psyop, right? And they were trying to do this. They did the same thing to Bolsonaro in Brazil. They were trying to make it so Trump couldn't run for president again on his way out. They were trying to get him to commit a crime of trespassing and creating this riot on federal property so then they could exclude him from ever running for president again. It didn't work. It didn't work. So, by the way, here is the pipe bomber throwing signs. Here's the pipe bomber walking by. And then a cop, DC Cop comes by and throw signs to them. Hey, how you doing? Hey, how you doing? There's the DC Cop. That's the DC Cop. So.

Yeah, that's straight, straight out of the undercover manual. No matter what you disguise yourself as, blatantly wave directly at the cops as they drive by. That's your smartest move.

You never see James Bond doing that. You never see a James Bond movie. You only blow cover twice. That never happens. So, but now. So after the blaze did that reporting, suddenly, five years later, within the month, the FBI found the real January 6th bomber. Does anybody believe this? So after the blaze points out that it's 98% certain that it was a D.C. cop that did it, who, by the way, went to work for the CIA after. So this is the person. So that's the person.

And she went to work for the. She got a cush job at the CIA, Right. Isn't that where she went to work? Well, now the FBI found the real one. Yes, they found the real one. Accused D.C. pipe bomber appears in court on explosive charges. There you go. A Virginia man who authorities allege planted pipe bomb near the Republican and Democratic National Committee headquarters appeared in court on Friday. Brian Cole of Woodridge, Virginia, was brought before magistrate judge.

He is charged with unlawful transportation of explosive device in interstate commerce with the intent to kill injured. Now, there's reports this guy's autistic.

There's certainly reports that this guy is not the kind of guy to do this. And we'll get to that. Even his neighbors say he's got really short legs. He'd be identifiable easily. He's also charged with malicious destruction or attempt. Blah, blah, blah. Cole allegedly placed the bombs the night of January 5, 2021. The discovery of the bombs diverted law enforcement from the violence at the Capitol. Oh, yeah, they were diverted. That's what problem was. That's why they didn't have enough law enforcement there. That's why the National Guard wasn't there. We've got Nancy Pelosi on video at least twice admitting that it was her fault for not having the National Guard there because Trump asked for it anyway.

And by the way, they. They've additionally charged that man with becoming a woman, because that's who it looks like actually did. It was a woman, but it was a man. And so now at least he could go to any bathroom he wants. Much of the grainy surveillance footage from the day showed the alleged suspect in a hoodie. Well, let me find. Is there a picture? This is what they say. This is who they say the guy is. That's who they say the guy is. Did he buy those fancy tennis shoes that they were all over about? Yeah. Did he have. And here's. Here's who. Here's who the Blaze says it is. Says it's this woman.

That's who the Blaze says it is. Does that look like that guy? I don't know.

Anyway, so here we go.

Much of the grainy surveillance footage from the day showed the alleged suspects in a hoodie face, Mac and gloves, making it difficult to identify them. The FBI was offering $500,000 reward for any information that could lead to. Wow. 500,000. Who's paying for that? Right? Investigators on the case have also said that the bombs were not detected until 15 hours after they were placed, giving the suspect time to flee the scene. Okay. During interviews with the FBI, the suspect arrested in the pipe bomb probe told investigators that he believed the 2020 election was stolen, providing perhaps the first indication of a possible motive for the bombs placed near the DNC and RNC headquarters. People briefed on the matter previously told CNN. The FBI arrested Cole, 30, at his home where he lives with his parents. So he lives at his parents home, 30 years old.

On Thursday, Cole spent hours with FBI investigators and made multiple statements, the sources said. Well, at least the spooks have dropped the whole DEI hired assassin idea. Dan Bongino, Deputy FBI Director, told Fox News on Thursday that the FBI had interviewed the suspect at length but didn't elaborate. The bureau believes the man.

Compiled bomb making supplies for months before leaving the viable explosive device devices outside of the political offices. Ok, all right. Short list of things we trust more than the FBI TV news, Oral sex from an electric eel.

So there it is. The D.C. pipe bomber said that he thought the 2020 election was stolen. That totally changed the narrative that conservatives accounts were pushing yesterday. The sounds like the guy was acting in Trump's interests instead of being a critic. So he's a Trumper. That's the, that's the news. So that's the whole thing.

So here's what Benny Johnson tweeted out. He said the January 6th pipe bomber terrorist was a young black guy. Radical. Anti Trump activists sued Trump and ICE and dhs extreme racial justice advocate works at a family bail bonds company that frees criminal aliens from ICE custody. Yeah, this explains exactly why the FBI, the Department of justice could not find this guy. For four years the Biden FBI had mountains of evidence against Brian Cole. Receipts, cell phone data, license plate photos and videos of the crime. They knew exactly who did it. But Brian's profile destroys their entire MAGA white supremacist insurrection bomber narrative in one blow. The FBI didn't fail to catch him. Leftists protected their own. This is the biggest FBI cover up scandal in history. What a nightmare. I wouldn't, I wouldn't go that far.

So I don't know. You tell me. But it's. None of this seems real. So is what he's saying real? Is what Benny Johnson's reporting. They're real. I don't. I know his parents.

Worked with Ben Crump who was Trayvon Martin's lawyer, famous African American civil rights lawyer in Florida. I know that.

I know that his parents do run bail bonds and they do help all the people arrested by ICE get out. It also destroys the MAGA insurrection narrative. Unless you want to believe both the left and MAGA were staging insurrections at the same place and time. More likely that what happened at the Capitol was FBI incited to benefit the left and the pipe bomb was an element of this plan. It was obvious the FBI did this anti Trump. They wanted to make Trump illegal. They did the same exact same game plan they did to Bolsonaro in Brazil. They fomented incited a riot and they charged him with doing that so now he can never run for president again. They thought that would work with Trump. It didn't.

January 6PIPE BOMBER FACTS 1 Black male, 30 years old Black Lives Matter supporter followed Democrat influencers voted for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris mom a black supremacist. Now how do they know that? How do people tweet? How do people who tweet that.

Come on? That sounds like spin, but anyway, so we asked Grok if that's true. Well, this post highlights facts about the 01-06-21 pipe bomber suspect Brian Cole Jr. A 30 year old black man from Virginia arrested December 4th after a four year FBI investigation. And it's weird, in the same month that the blaze came out with the While the age and race align with official charges, claims of BLM support following Democrat influencers voting for Biden and Harris and black supremacist mother remain unverified in public records or news reports. Which instead no Cole's belief in the 2020 election fraud theories. So what are we to believe? I don't know this. I know that Thomas Massie says three things I'll never believe about the 1-5-6 pipe bomb story. 1 the bomber was a lone wolf. 2 the FBI was this incompetent for four years on the case, this consequential and 3 perpetrators were pro Trump.

I happen to agree with him.

I don't think the perpetrators were pro Trump.

I think the perpetrators were connected to law enforcement in some way, just like the FBI. The real insiders of that riot were plants, FBI agents, FBI assets, other police people from other departments. Here's Representative Massey. He's questioning the FBI director before Cash Patel Christopher Wray on the pipe bomb investigation in July of 23. Well, again, I don't want to speculate about specific individuals. I will tell you that we have done thousands of interviews, reviewed something like 40,000 video files of which this is one assessed 500 something tips. Have you interviewed that person? We have conducted all logical investigative steps and interviewed all logical individuals at the this. Then you need.

[Stu Peters]

It's 900 days.

[Jimmy Dore]

You need to tell us what you found because we're finding stuff you haven't released into the public.

Yeah. So of course Christopher Ray is a big lying criminal. Like almost all the heads of the FBI have been in history since J. Edgar.

So they're all lying criminals. We're ruled by lying criminals and that's a good look at one. I find it funny that they accuse an example DC Police department officer that now works for the CIA and then magically there's a second suspect within a month after there hadn't been any suspects for years.

Nothing suspicious here.

Wow.

Guess what? CNN reports this guy is a white guy. You want to hear it? Yeah, he's a white guy. Capital attack. Brian Cole Jr. A 30 year old white man from the D.C. suburbs is charged with transporting an explosive device. What? What is the point of that? Why would you lie like that? Why? Because you know most people are going to hear that lie and they'll never hear the retraction.

So yeah, he's a white guy. That's just a really big birthmark.

He's a white guy. I'll play it for you again. Capitol attack. Brian Cole Jr. A 30 year old white man from the D.C. suburbs is charged with transporting an explosive device in interstate commerce and with malicious destruction by means of explosions. CNN observed local and federal law enforcement outside his home in Woodbridge, Virginia this morning. And they didn't notice that it was black people that lived there. Brian Cole, the January 6th pipe bomber is from a family that runs bail bond services for the bails bond service for illegal immigrants. They were represented by Ben Crump. You remember Ben Crump. He represented Trayvon Martin. He's a big African American civil rights lawyer. I'm going to go in on a limb and say he's not maga.

So it doesn't seem like it. Here is another one. The criminal complaint against Brian Jerome Cole Jr. Has just been made public. It turns out they tracked him down using his purchase record, cell phone data and license plate info and it still took them five years to locate him. Meanwhile, a bunch of January 6th defendants were rounded up in a matter of days.

Why did it take almost five years to round this guy up? Because they were looking for a white man? Was that it? Were they listening to cnn? Reminder that Kamala Harris said this about Jussie Smollett and the Post is still up today. She said Jesse Smollett is one of the kindest, most Gentle human beings. I know. I'm praying for. That was an attempted modern day lynching. No one should ever fear for their life because of their sexuality or color of their skin. Okay. But anyway, here's the house that he lived in with his parents. The January 6th pipe bomber, Brian Cole is apparently an anarchist who lives in a house that looks like that.

But guess what is also being reported by his neighbors. According to family, Brian Cole is severely autistic and didn't leave the house much. He also has uncommonly short legs. And the suspect is in the video. Does not. I hope they get the right guy. This is here. So listen, here's. This is by Men's Journal. The suspect's grandmother Loretta told the New York Post, he's almost autistic, like because he doesn't understand a lot of stuff. But he put together bombs. He was able to put bombs when he's borderline. As according to his grandmother, he doesn't understand a lot of stuff and he's borderline autistic. I hope he's not talking. She also alleged he's very naive. He would not hurt a fly. He's just that kind of person. I don't believe this at all. He's not a terrorist. The grandmother told the Post that Cole works for the family bail bonds company, Brian Cole Bail Bonds. She added that he also worked for Doordash for a time. He doesn't have any ties to D.C. she added, I don't even know how they included him in this.

So there you go. A guy who's reportedly borderline autistic somehow put this mastermind plan together. They couldn't so good. They couldn't find him for five years immediately. It's funny, they immediately found him right after the blaze pointed out that it was a DC cop who now works for the CIA who was the DC pipe bomber. Isn't that weird? Yeah, it is weird. Yeah. So again, if you believe the FBI story on this, I've got a vaccine I'd like to sell you. Just like if you believe the FBI story on Tyler Robinson and the Charlie Kirk assassination. Just like if you believe the FBI story on the Epstein files, that there's no there there. It's a Democrat hoax. And Epstein was wasn't trafficking kids to anybody except himself.

So if you believe the FBI, you are the chump of all chumps. And I believe the only people who actually say they believe it are people being paid to say they believe it. Those we we found out. Nick Sorter found out a bunch of right wing influencers who were being paid pittance to advocate for sugary drinks be included in food stamps.

So these, these people. It doesn't take much to bribe these people is what I'm saying.

Anyway, so there you have your. Your DC Pipe bomber. And now we know the rest of the story.

So Stu Peters, a very controversial right winger, has stumbled onto something that I found compelling. So I wanted to play it for everybody. In case you're wondering why we're starting a war with Venezuela.

Why. Why is Trump. Why is Trump so obsessed with Venezuela? You know, we know Trump is the complete tool of Israel and the Zionists. Complete. 100%. Yeah.

[Mike McRae]

It's Russian collusion, but you got to pretend they're from Israel.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, yeah.

So what everybody thought Russia was doing to Trump, Israel's actually doing to Trump and no one complains about it. Yeah. I mean, nobody in power complains about it. Everybody else does. So let's listen to what Stu Peters said.

[Stu Peters]

Venezuela, where our Department of War and Pete the drunkard Hegseth is committing international war crimes. You have Nicolas Maduro, who again, has been deemed by the Trump administration to be a terrorist, giving the United States government, in effect, permission, the gang, the biggest gang on the planet, to go and kill him.

[Jimmy Dore]

So like I've said before, I said this in 2010.

And I've been saying it ever since, that all they have to do is call you a terrorist, and now you don't have any rights. So the Constitution. And so now they're going to call anybody they want to a terrorist, and then they can lock you up without giving you a trial. It's called indefinite detention. And you don't have to give a trial to people who are considered terrorists. That's called indefinite detention. Pretty sure that's what they were doing to Chelsea Manning. And because he didn't get a trial or she didn't get a trial, and at the time, I think, anyway, it doesn't matter.

[Mike McRae]

I didn't know about it until after it was done, so I'm not like extra smart or nothing. I didn't know about. All your rights got taken away while you were not looking.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. And so just like they did to a. The woman from Democracy now when she was out there protesting or covering a Protestant against a pipeline, they arrested her and said she was a terrorist. She's doing echo terrorism. If you say something that they don't like online, they call you a cyber terrorist.

[Mike McRae]

Well, that's real five eyes stuff.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. So now everybody's a terrorist. Everybody's a terrorist. And so now they say, oh, Nicolas Maduro, he's a narco terrorist. So now we get to do it. So that's. So that's like, that's the game that's being played. Ok, so here we go back to Stu Peters.

[Stu Peters]

So Venezuela, where our Department of War and Pete the drunkard Hegseth is committing intervention, international war crimes. You have Nicolas Maduro, who again has been deemed by the Trump administration to be a terrorist, giving the United States government in effect, permission the gang, the biggest gang on the planet, to go and kill him, to go and execute him. And they want to install a government that's subservient to the central bankers and to the International Monetary Fund and to private. So why do I care?

[Jimmy Dore]

And that's exactly what they want to do. And you see these chuds on. I only go on Twitter, so that's the only place I see him. And they're like, good, let's get rid of. He's a. He's a communist, he's a dictator. Let's get rid of him. And then let's. So we get more oil. That's also good. So that's that.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah. This is when I saw Misfit pastry it on my ex today, because shit pops up. That guy's a big Zionist, phony fucking guy. And he was blathering about Venezuela. So that's why I started to suspect Israel has something to do with it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yep. And so he's onto it. So why. So, so what Trump wants to do is install the international banking cartel in Venezuela. That's what he wants to do. And so Stu Peters says, why should I care about this?

[Stu Peters]

So why do I care? As an American, how does that affect me? What does that process look like, regime change in Venezuela? Well, before we get to Maduro, you could consider some names and some circumstances of the past, maybe Saddam Hussein, Bashar al Assad, Muammar Gaddafi. You could consider the way the media demonizes and clamors for regime change or execution, political assassinations, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Iran, or of course, course, Russia's Vladimir Putin. But anyway, in 2023, Maduro labeled Zionism as more dangerous than Nazism. He said, quote, now the supremacists of today's Zionism want to wipe out the Palestinian people. They want to finish with all the Arab people, with all the Muslim people. They've sown an ideology more dangerous than Nazism. You can't do that.

[Jimmy Dore]

So now you know the rest of the story, which is why Trump, who's completely beholden to The Zionists to the, to Israel completely. To Sheldon Adelson, Miriam Adelson, his Zionist donors, completely controlled by them because he's in the Epstein files. Also on top of it.

[Mike McRae]

Then he sucked Clinton's dick.

[Jimmy Dore]

Don't forget that, Jimmy. Okay, okay, I'm all in on. So now. Now I'm like, why is Trump so obsessed with Venezuela? I know they've got more oil than Saudi Arabia. They got the most oil in the world, so that makes sense.

[Mike McRae]

But we didn't go get them then. Now it's like extra, isn't it?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Stu Peters]

You can't say these things. 2024, he said, quote, as President Lula Da Silva said, the Israeli government is doing the same thing to the Palestinians that Hitler did to the Jews, eliminating them. He said that the Gaza crimes, quote, have surpassed the Holocaust. Yeah, the Holocaust inversion thing. You can't do that. In June of 2025, Maduro went on a tirade at a government workshop calling Benjamin Netanya, quote, the Hitler of the 21st century. He called him a fake Jew and a crook from Poland. He said that Israel was created, quote, to conquer the Middle east and colonize those peoples. You can't say that. During the post election protests, he blamed all of the unrest on, quote, unquote, international Zionism. He said that the Jews controlled satellites in the media and that they pumped opposition financing to, quote, sow discord. These are things you just can't say. So who's calling Maduro a terrorist? It's the media whose narrative is compiled by these people. It's owned by these people. It's funded and controlled by these people. The Trump administration is calling him a terrorist who is owned and operated and controlled and funded by these people. They would love for regime change in Venezuela just like they would love for regime change in Russia so they could break that country up into a bunch of little tiny arbitrary nation states like Ukraine, pump in all kinds of private equity firms, erect central banks and install Jewish oligarchs as the president. And they do this in all of these places, wherever and whenever they so choose, with force at the end of a US taxpayer funded gun barrel. So, yeah, if you were wondering what's going on with Venezuela, that's what's going on with Venezuela.

[Jimmy Dore]

I didn't know that. Did you know that, Kurt, about Maduro's quotes? Of course, we've already reported on. That's exactly what Blackrock.

[Mike McRae]

I knew he was bad. I didn't know he was that bad.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's exactly what vanguard Blackrock and the Neocons who ran the Biden White House State Department thought was going to happen with the Ukraine. They underestimated Russia. They thought that they could weaken Russia, they could get the people to go against Vladimir Putin and they could break up. They call it Balkanize. They could break up Russia into parts and sell it off to the blackrocks and the vanguards, just like they're doing to Ukraine. They already sold almost all the farmland in Ukraine and Trump's trying to get the minerals, the rare earth minerals out of it. So that's what this is all about. Of course that's what they're doing.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah. The only disagreement I have is him going the Jews. And I don't know why anybody says that. He didn't say that very unhelp. Yeah. He said the Jews at one point. We'll say the Jews. I don't think the Jews. I don't think.

[Jimmy Dore]

He said. He said install Jewish oligarchs.

[Mike McRae]

Jews own the satellites. He said towards the end of the.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, did he say that?

[Mike McRae]

If you say the Jews, you're an asshole. You're not helping.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. You can't.

[Mike McRae]

Zionists, the due dissidents. Boys are Jews. They're not for this.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Mike McRae]

Saying the Jews, everyone.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Mike McRae]

It's not cool. You're helping Zionists when you do that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Most of the Jews I know aren't for this.

Most of the Jews I know.

[Mike McRae]

And by the way, who's in on it with the Zionists? The Jesuits. So that's the Catholics too, if you're a Fuentes fan. So don't get on your high horse because all your organizations are in on it. It's called the New World Order and it's going to happen and you're going to fight with other groups like a jerk off. Not you, obviously, but you're. That's your goal is to sit there. I don't like that one. I blame this one and whatever. And they're all in league together. None of them are the religion they tell you they are. They all are in some weird Atlantis culture.

[Jimmy Dore]

Let me hear this again.

[Stu Peters]

So Venezuela, where our Department of War and Pete the Drunkard Hegseth is committing international war crimes, you have Nicolas Maduro, who again has been deemed by the Trump administration to be a terrorist, giving the United States government, in effect, permission. The gang, the biggest gang on the planet, to go and kill him, to go and execute him. And they want to install a government that's subservient to the central bankers and to the International Monetary Fund and to private so why do I care? As an American, how does that affect me? What does that process look like? Regime change in Venezuela? Well, before we get to Maduro, you could consider some names and some circumstances of the past. Maybe Saddam Hussein, Bashar Al Assad, Muammar Gaddafi. You could consider the way the media demonizes and clamors for regime change or execution, political assassinations, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Iran, or of course Russia's Vladimir Putin. But anyway, in 2023, Maduro labeled Zionism as more dangerous than Nazism. He said quot supremacists of today's Zionism want to wipe out the Palestinian people. They want to finish with all the Arab people, with all the Muslim people. They've sown an ideology more dangerous than Nazism. You can't do that. You can't say these things. 2024, he said, quote, as President Lula da Silva said, the Israeli government is doing the same thing to the Palestinians that Hitler did to the Jews, eliminating them. He said that the Gaza crimes, quote, have surpassed the Holocaust. Yeah, the Holocaust inversion thing. You can't do that. In June of 2025, Maduro went on a tirade at a government workshop calling Benjamin Netanyahu, quote, the Hitler of the 21st century. He called him a fake Jew and a crook from Poland. He said that Israel was created to conquer the Middle east and colonize those peoples. You can't say that.

[Jimmy Dore]

So now, so that is, first of all, it's true. Everything that 100% true what he just said. Everything that Maduro said that he's quoting Maduro saying it's true.

[Mike McRae]

He knows more than mum Dani.

[Jimmy Dore]

Israel was there to.

Conquer and colonize the Middle East. That's exactly what's happening.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah, that's part of that.

[Jimmy Dore]

And now they got partake England and.

[Mike McRae]

That'S the Rothschilds are in it. That's who founded it. And I would take it a step further even and say the word Holocaust means sacrifice and a bunch of people that are fake Jews and not hate, in fact hate Jews even though they're ostensibly Jews, they're fine with sacrificing Jews to get what they want.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Mike McRae]

And they're doing it in front of your face.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. Let's listen to more.

[Stu Peters]

During the post election protests, he blamed all of the unrest on quote, unquote international Zionism. He said that the Jews controlled satellites in the media.

[Mike McRae]

That.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh that, that when you say that.

[Mike McRae]

It'S an easy fodder to go, oh, I guess Jewish space laser is that Nonsense.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, it's.

[Mike McRae]

Dude, first of all, it's. It's Larry Ellison controls all that. It's one Jew, so it's not even the Jews. But also it's Zionists. It's the fucking Zionist Zion. And they are in league with the new World Order of the Rose is the full name. And that's the Jesuits and Catholics too. And also the fake Protestants here that are CIA, psyop, neocon Protestants. It's one big club that. I hope you're not in it.

[Jimmy Dore]

So was he quoting Maduro as saying that.

[Stu Peters]

Jews controlled sas?

[Mike McRae]

Maduro didn't say it like that.

[Stu Peters]

He blamed all of the unrest on quote, unquote, international Zionism.

[Jimmy Dore]

So, yeah, he's right about that.

[Stu Peters]

And then he said that the Jews controlled satellites.

[Jimmy Dore]

And I don't. I don't know if that's a direct quote. Maybe it is, because I don't.

[Mike McRae]

Why would he make the point of saying they're fake Jews and then say no Jews? Yeah, see, that's why I don't think it's a quote from Maduro.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right. So.

[Mike McRae]

And I really hate when people got this thing about the Jews. Like, you are completely an asshole. That's not helping when you do that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. I mean, I. I'm giving tip of the hat to sue for all these.

All this information about what he's right about.

[Mike McRae]

No question.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's right about. He's got. I didn't know about any of those quotes. And now it may. Nobody else is talking about this.

[Mike McRae]

All these things don't make sense till you think of Zionism, huh?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yep. None of it makes sense until you think of Zionism. And then you're like, realize who.

[Mike McRae]

Who benefits?

[Jimmy Dore]

Of course.

[Mike McRae]

Really. Not Jews. They get killed by Zionists. They get sacrificed media and that.

[Stu Peters]

They pumped opposition financing to quote. So discord. These are things you just can't say. So who's calling Maduro a terrorist? It's the media whose narrative is compiled by these people. It's owned by these people. It's funded and controlled by these people. The Trump administration is calling him a terrorist who is owned and operated and controlled and funded by these people. They would love for regime change in Venezuela just like they would love for regime change in Russia so they could break that country up into a bunch of little tiny, arbitrary nation states like Ukraine, pump in all kinds of private equity firms, erect central banks and install Jewish oligarchs as the president. And they do this in all of these places, wherever and whenever they so choose, with force at the end of a US taxpayer funded gun barrel. So yeah, if you were wondering what's going on with Venezuela, that's what's going on with Venezuela.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah. And if you, yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

And if you want to know what else is going on in Venezuela, the largest oil reserves, Venezuela next. Saudi Arabia next. Iran, then Canada, Iraq, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Russia, us, Libya. So that's what's going on.

[Mike McRae]

Anything they got energy that we wouldn't need oil, but they're not going to share it, so they're going to kill people to get more oil instead. I'll bet you that.

[Jimmy Dore]

And if you think that this thing in Venezuela is because Maduro is a narco terrorist. Trump just pardoned the biggest narco terrorists ever in the region. The ex president of Honduras who flooded America with cocaine.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah. Just like he let that guy that, that shot the National Guardsmen stay in the country because they're CIA assets. You don't leave a man behind, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike McRae]

Help your people.

[Jimmy Dore]

So I, I, I just, unless they're American. Then I, I thought that I didn't so good on Stu Peters for digging up that information and that's great. That really is eye opening. And of course now you know, now if you look at it from that now you have now you know. Oh, now because I couldn't get over what Trump's obsession with Venezuela is besides the oil.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah. He's got some chabad Lubovitch.

[Jimmy Dore]

And believe me, believe me, if Trump does what it looks like he's going to do because he tried to get Maduro to just leave. Maduro won't sell out his country. They had a phone call where Trump allegedly tried to get him to leave and he won't. And.

So Trump's going to start a war with Venezuela and if he does, it's going to be Trump's Vietnam. The guy who became famous and got elected on criticizing the neocons war in Iraq and calling it out for the ridiculous idiocy it was, is now going to start one even worse than Iraq because it's in our own hemisphere.

[Mike McRae]

And now Zelensky, remember he was going to end the war and what did he do?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, he was going to drop them.

[Mike McRae]

Into a worse war. They're all there to tell you some shit and you vote like an idiot. And then instead of getting mad and doing something, what you do is you just vote for mom, dummy. Everybody just like goes along and Gore Vidal said United States of amnesia. Oh, forget it. Move on. Oh, Covid. And forget it. And move on.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, this is Jimmy, who's this?

[Kevin Spacey]

This is Kevin Spacey. You're welcome.

[Jimmy Dore]

Ah, disgraced actor Kevin Spacey. How are you doing, Jimmy?

[Kevin Spacey]

I am doing fantastic. I've never been better, thanks for asking. Life is as it has always been, a fabulous cavalcade of pleasures and enjoyments.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, that's great to hear. Very relieved. Can you tell us more?

[Kevin Spacey]

I am homeless.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh.

[Kevin Spacey]

But don't worry. As I explained in an interview with the Telegraph, by that I simply mean my financial situation has deteriorated to the point where I no longer own a home. I'm not like outside all the time. Dirty homeless.

[Jimmy Dore]

I see. Where are you staying then, Jimmy?

[Kevin Spacey]

I'm currently residing at various Airbnbs or hotels, wherever my gigs happen to be at the moment.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, you're getting acting gigs again?

[Kevin Spacey]

Not really. Not occasionally, but really what is keeping me busy and putting food on my table is the nightclub lounge act I'm touring with.

[Jimmy Dore]

Excuse me?

[Kevin Spacey]

You can see snippets of it online. No one Internet asshole called it, quote Frank Sinatra cosplay. But it's much more than that, Jimmy. Like all true entertainers, I am at heart a song and dance man. And from the ashes of my financial ruination, I have been able to rediscover my true self. So yes, I have been delighting audiences all over the Eastern Mediterranean with my one man act celebrating the American songbook. Fly me to the moon.

[Jimmy Dore]

I see. Very impressive. Where exactly are you doing this.

Jimmy?

[Kevin Spacey]

I am huge in Cyprus. They can't get enough of me. That's where the clip was from. And that's among both Turks and Greeks. Both are at my show. I'm literally bringing people together with my music and my charisma. Jimmy. These pipes are healing centuries old rifts. Peace in the Middle East.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow, how humanitarian of you.

[Kevin Spacey]

I really sort of am the best person. Yes. Thank you.

[Jimmy Dore]

Do you have a home base of any kind?

[Kevin Spacey]

Well, when I left the States, I sort of set up shop in Tel Aviv, Israel. And that has been my home away from home ever since. Just the loveliest people, Jimmy. Just unbelievably lovely people, Jimmy. Those Israelis. So welcoming to me.

[Jimmy Dore]

I see.

[Kevin Spacey]

And Jimmy, I have to say it is simply so refreshing to be among people who don't care about this canceled bullshit. Yeah, and with the state of Israel, that's everybody. Every single person. Hell, the entire nation has been canceled collectively by the international version of the scolds who ended my career. All because of whatever it is they're doing in Gaza.

[Jimmy Dore]

The genocide.

[Kevin Spacey]

Right, Exactly. Jesus Christ, let it go. And not to mention probably half of the male population has done some sort of. Me, too. Shit. And a lot of the women, too. Let's be honest. There are forward people, these Israelis. As I said in my interview, I acknowledge that in the past, I have been handsy with people who I didn't realize didn't want that. So let's just say I have found a new home in Tel Aviv.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, that's nice, I suppose.

[Kevin Spacey]

I think so, too. And Tel Aviv is really just crawling with men who have fled other countries because of sex crime accusations. You know, there's a saying among the tribe, when a shiksa finally goes to the police, the best thing you can do is grab your yarmulke and your passport. Bobby. Israel awaits.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, that does seem to be the case.

[Kevin Spacey]

Oh, for sure. I am not only the. I'm not only the only expat here, believe you me. And some of these guys have done stuff you wouldn't believe. No extradition treaty. Yes, please. So, yeah, there's a real sense of community here. It's a real scene, if you can dig it. We are pedophiles.

[Jimmy Dore]

Not sure you want to sing that.

[Kevin Spacey]

Are you kidding? That's my number one requested song at the Tel Aviv Tiki Lounge in Cabaret. Oh, I always get a lot of love at the tlc. Every other Tuesday night, they basically give me the run of the place. I get to use the house orchestra, and, boy, we really get cracking. We give them a show to beat the band, Jack, because me and those cats really swing together.

[Jimmy Dore]

I see.

[Kevin Spacey]

God may have chosen his people, but on Tuesdays, I choose the set list. But you can expect Sinatra, Billie Holiday, Tommy Dorsey, and of course, Bobby Darin. Yeah, and the best part is that since nearly every celebrity has boycotted Israel, I'm the most famous gentile here at any given time. I'm finally a huge star.

[Jimmy Dore]

You've made it.

[Kevin Spacey]

And all it took was the combination of the sexual harassment of teen boys and a genocide to make it happen. Just goes to show, never give up on your dreams, Jimmy. Evil wins again.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, Mr. Spacey. Well, I'm glad that things are working out so well for you.

[Kevin Spacey]

And don't forget the homeless part.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right. Congratulations on being homeless and your success entertaining war criminals and being a sex criminal yourself.

[Kevin Spacey]

Thanks, Jimmy. I really mean that. I'll check in every now and again to let you know how I'm doing. Until then, fly me to the. Whoa. Look at that teenager.

[Jimmy Dore]

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All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the initial inimitable, Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com.

That'S it for this week. You be the best you can be, and I'll keep being me.

Don't freak out.

Don't freak out. Don't freak out.

Do not freak out. I'm not kidding. Do not. Do not. I'm not.

I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

[Kevin Spacey]

I'm not. I'm not. Don't freak out.

[Jimmy Dore]

Don't freak out.

Do not freak out.