Candace Exposes ANOTHER Massive TPUSA Lie Over Kirk Assassination!

Summary

The Jimmy Dore Show
Episode: "Candace Exposes ANOTHER Massive TPUSA Lie Over Kirk Assassination!"
Date: November 26, 2025

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Overview

This episode of The Jimmy Dore Show, guest-hosted by James Lee with contributions from Emma Imagination, Kurt Metzger, Chris Keane, and a segment with Candace Owens, dives into recent controversies involving Turning Point USA (TPUSA) and the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The hosts critically examine conflicting narratives surrounding security measures, drone usage, and the perpetuation of false claims by TPUSA figures. The latter half addresses U.S. foreign policy, the situation in Gaza, and broader issues of media manipulation, accountability, and free speech in political comedy.

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Key Topics and Segments

1. The "Gift Wrapping" Cold Open (00:00)

• Light banter and a satirical sketch involving the hosts, Candace Owens, and iPhone 17s.
  [Note: Promotional content and ads skipped as per instructions]

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2. TPUSA, Charlie Kirk’s Security, and the Drone Lie (01:45 - 09:56)

Introduction to the Scandal (01:47)

• James Lee introduces the central controversy: Candace Owens and others exposing "lies" by TPUSA cast about the circumstances surrounding Charlie Kirk's assassination.

Security Chief Defense and Drone Restrictions (03:07, 03:29)

• Brian Harpel (TPUSA Security Chief) on the Sean Ryan Show claims drones couldn’t be flown for rooftop surveillance due to legal restrictions over Provo, Utah (UVU campus).

  "[The area] lies in the Provo, Utah airspace. I can't fly. That's a 107B. We can't break the rules." – Brian Harpel (03:29)

• Suggests Orem PD could have assisted, but "we didn't get asked” (04:13).

Contradicting Evidence and Candace Owens’ Investigation (05:22, 05:32)

• Emma Imagination: "He basically said we didn't have drones...because I wasn't allowed..."
• James Lee & Emma Imagination: Reference to Frank Turek (with Charlie Kirk at the event), who previously said drones were used and shared drone footage on the day of the assassination.

  "They [Kirk’s team] has drones up, looking at the crowd from above..." (06:31)

• Actual drone footage is found and discussed (07:03), debunking Harpel’s claim.

University Policy on Drones (08:41)

• James Lee reads UVU's policy, confirming drone use is permitted with a permit – further undermining Harpel’s explanation.

Hosts' Reflections on the "Drone Lie" (09:41)

• Discussion about TPUSA’s shifting stories and ease of their debunking through basic fact-checking.
• James Lee: "Does anybody actually buy the interview with Sean Ryan? I don't know."

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3. Dissecting More TPUSA & Assassination “Lies” (09:56 - 15:48)

Candace Owens’ List of Lies (10:57, 12:06, 13:09)

• James Lee and Emma Imagination enumerate several debunked narratives, including:
  • The blood-covered "heroic" Mikey McCoy story is false.
  • Fabricated claims about Kirk’s theological views, dietary miracles, and unwavering support for Israel.
  • Contradictions about drone use, missing SD cards from cameras, and supposed internal harmony within TPUSA.

  “Charlie's next stopped a 36 bullet because he ate salad and had strong bones. It was a modern day Christian miracle.” – Emma Imagination (11:49)

• The mural in Tel Aviv, painted suspiciously fast after Kirk’s death, raises timeline questions (13:18).

Broader Pattern of Narrative Control (15:48)

• Emma Imagination: Suggests the design of multiple conflicting stories is intentional, creating confusion and distraction from core questions about motivation for the assassination.

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4. Israel, Epstein Files, and Anti-Semitism Smears (16:24 - 32:06)

Accusations and Political Taboo (16:24, 16:48)

• James Lee and Emma discuss the risk of being labeled “anti-Semite” for critiquing Israel or raising questions about intelligence ties to events like Kirk's death or the Epstein scandal.

Congressional and Insider Comments (18:49, 22:03)

• Marjorie Taylor Greene (clip): Calls for rich men to be indicted for Epstein–related abuses, decries Senate foot-dragging.
• Discussions on the influence of Israeli intelligence and U.S. agencies on the release of Epstein files.

  "I think Israel is influencing the Epstein file release because Israeli intelligence and our own CIA was wrapped up with Epstein." – Marjorie Taylor Greene (22:11)

The Epstein Conspiracy Web (24:02 - 29:49)

• Panel dialogues on Epstein’s role, Mossad, blackmail operations, and suggestions that media/government attacks on inquiry are by design to stifle scrutiny.
• Anecdotes about Epstein’s deep ties with intelligence and international finance, referencing documentaries and public figures like Ghislaine Maxwell and Leslie Wexner.

Smear Tactics and Media Manipulation (30:10)

• Debunking memes like "Jewish Space Lasers" as deliberate smear tactics to shut down legitimate criticism of Israeli policy or intelligence links.

Predicting Limited Accountability (31:36)

• Hosts forecast that only a few low-level fall guys like Larry Summers will face real consequences for the Epstein affair ("He’s the perfect person if you were to pick somebody to just say, hey, we're gonna lock this guy up...but he's not so big that he can't be fried.” – James Lee, 32:06).

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5. Gaza Crisis and U.S.-Brokered “Peace” (34:03 - 48:22)

Trump, Palestinians, and Humanitarian Reality (34:03, 35:03)

• Jimmy Dore plays a Trump press exchange: Trump claims “Palestinians are doing very well...they love me.”
• Extensive fact-checking segment highlights dire conditions in Gaza: children in flooded tents, ongoing bombings, and humanitarian disaster.

  "They like Palestinians like me." – Donald Trump (35:16)

UN Peace Plan, International Occupation, and Rejection (40:28)

• U.N. adopts U.S.-Israel plan for Gaza stabilization force, criticized as a new occupation. Palestinian groups and advocates denounce it as false peace.

  "The nation that provided the bombs for Israel's genocide, the US is now in charge of the Gaza peace plan with a global stamp of approval. This is insane, pathetic." – Medea Benjamin (43:51)

Ethnic Cleansing and Land Management (44:45, 48:22)

• Panel compares current events to historic ethnic cleansings, highlights structural plans to force Gazans out, and laments global compliance or indifference.

  "This is the Greater Israel Project, man. They're trying to clear Palestinians out of that entire territory." – Kurt Metzger (48:22)

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6. Bill Maher Quits Stand-up: Free Speech & Comedy in a “Toxic” America (48:40 - 59:52)

Bill Maher’s Announcement (48:54, 50:00)

• Chris Keane introduces Maher’s claim he’s quitting stand-up due to fears for personal safety amid political polarization.

  "I don't want to be out there...I could get shot by the left or the right." – Bill Maher (50:09)

Panel Response: Satire, Critique, and Context (51:08, 54:55)

• Hosts joke about Maher's self-importance, discuss his hypocrisy (being irreligious yet defending Israel/Bible-based justifications), and describe generational divides in comedy and politics.
• Emma Imagination: "He's completely owned by Netanyahu, either financially or just mentally." (52:44)
• Debate on whether Maher's self-exile reflects a real or imagined danger, and what it signifies about the state of public discourse.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Drone Lie Exposed:
  "So, essentially, yes, you can do [fly a drone]. You just have to apply for a permit to do it. It looks like maybe they did, maybe they didn't. I mean, there were actual drones up there." — James Lee (08:41)

• Epstein Files & Intelligence Links:
  "I think Israel is influencing the Epstein file release because Israeli intelligence and our own CIA was wrapped up with Epstein." – Marjorie Taylor Greene (22:11)

• Gaza Reality vs. White House Rhetoric:
  “The Palestinians are doing very well. … Here’s drone footage from just a couple weeks ago.” – Jimmy Dore (35:52)

• Bill Maher on Leaving Stand-Up:
  "I don't want to be out there in this country in this political atmosphere. I could get shot by the left or the right." – Bill Maher (50:09)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• TPUSA and Drone Narrative: 01:45 – 09:56
• Candace Owens Exposes TPUSA Lies: 05:32 – 15:48
• Israel/Epstein Accusations & File Release: 16:24 – 32:06
• Gaza Peace Plan Critique: 34:03 – 48:22
• Bill Maher’s Retirement and Comedy Free Speech: 48:40 – 59:52

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Overall Tone and Takeaways

The episode is deeply skeptical, irreverent, and confrontational—emphasizing skepticism of official narratives, particularly around the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the handling of the Epstein case. The panel lampoons establishment hypocrisy and the manipulation of public discourse, especially relating to Israel-Palestine, intelligence agencies, and free speech in comedy. Earnest calls for truth-telling sit side-by-side with biting sarcasm, and the show repeatedly skewers both mainstream media and institutional power, framing contemporary events as repeating patterns of corruption and cover-up.

Transcript

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[Candace Owens]

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[Emma Imagination]

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[Chris Keane]

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[Candace Owens]

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[Emma Imagination]

Forget that.

[Candace Owens]

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[Chris Keane]

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[Candace Owens]

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[Emma Imagination]

And so good luck bullshit we can't.

[James Lee]

Afford why fomenting this watch and see as. It's the Jimmy Door Show. Welcome back to the Jimmy Dore Show. My name is James Lee. I am guest hosting for Jimmy Today here with Kurt Metzger. And speaking of Candace Owens, I think she is basically single handedly destroying every single lie that is coming out of the TV TP USA cast of Characters that are up there spinning all kinds of various narratives and now we know to be lies because most recently we've had Brian Harpel go on the Sean Ryan Show. Sean Ryan, the. You know who I think is a fed. I don't know if people.

[Emma Imagination]

What? Why? Just because he ran a drug network in Colombia for the CIA. I don't know. Do you remember.

[James Lee]

Do you remember earlier this year when he had on some CIA. I can't remember who it was about the cyber truck blowing up. We still don't know what that was about.

[Emma Imagination]

Yes, I am dying to get an answer about what in the hell that was about. Because he went on a trip and he goes, oh, it's getting bad, guys. And the next thing you know, he was back doing a show like nothing happened.

[James Lee]

Yeah, that was that guy they.

[Emma Imagination]

Smith. They smeared that guy up and down too, about.

[James Lee]

Yeah, but. But recently he had on Brian Harpel, who is the head of security for Charlie Kirk, who talked about why there wasn't certain security measures taking place such as flying drones and such. So let's hear from him. As far as that explanation goes.

[Brian Harpel]

The dollars on drones last year and one and got the guy's license. But if the area lies in the Provo, Utah airspace. I can't fly. That's a 107B. We can't break the rules.

[Kurt Metzger]

Right.

[Brian Harpel]

And then you have secondary restrictions probably due to heavy foot traffic for the school. But I can't go in and break the rules. There's laws for a reason.

[Emma Imagination]

And then.

[Brian Harpel]

And so now the school could have blown drones, the pd, but they didn't have them.

[Bill Maher]

Right.

[Brian Harpel]

And then. And then.

[James Lee]

So.

[Brian Harpel]

But Orem PD has a drone unit active and professional in that police department. I will tell you right now is awesome. They are. They get it. They. They were there. They helped both on the soft side and the hard side. And so I started asking questions like, you guys have a drone unit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris Keane]

Good.

[Brian Harpel]

Do you have an MOU or a mutual aid agreement with the school? And they're like, yeah. I said, did they call you and ask for assistance?

[Jimmy Dore]

No.

[Brian Harpel]

I'm like, why wouldn't you call? And then. So, you know, that's one. So just. I can't go in and break the law. I can't make my guys break the law. I can't go in and do something that would jeopardize therapy. Do you have any idea why they would say no? I mean, did they.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Did they.

[Emma Imagination]

Was this malicious?

[Brian Harpel]

Was this. Was this being malicious towards the nose? The right one I would say, did you ask. Did you. Did you ask this awesome PD that would. Would probably help you in a heartbeat. Did you have an MOU with. Did you even ask them? And the answer was from them. We didn't get asked. We didn't get asked. And then.

[James Lee]

So.

[Brian Harpel]

So table the drones, which would have been awesome. Absolutely. I believe in them, but I can't break the law to do it. We're out there not only protecting them physically, but I have to protect the reputation of the client also, and that's a whole separate thing of protection. So the drones would have been awesome, but I can't break the law. They could have used them. They chose not to.

[James Lee]

So apparently, evidently, allegedly, no drones were allowed, as Mr. Brian Harpel says.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[James Lee]

He doesn't want to break the law. He can't break the law. Well, it turns out he is potentially, I would say, maybe lying here. Let's listen to Candace's investigation.

[Emma Imagination]

Yesterday, we talked about Brian Harpole, the security guy, who was not convincing at all. And he basically said we didn't have drones because. Looking at the rooftops, because I wasn't allowed to have drones. Right. We just were not allowed to have drones that day.

[James Lee]

A lot of people.

[Emma Imagination]

A lot of you emailed us and said that was a lie. Actually, again, going back to the early interviews that a lot of TPUSA people gave, Frank Turek, who was with Charlie on the day that he died, with Charlie in the hospital, and carried Charlie into the waiting suv, he told Megan Kelly something different about drones on that day. Take a listen.

[James Lee]

In fact, when we were driving into that event, this is the first event. I've gone to a college campus with Charlie.

[Emma Imagination]

He said, frank, if you can come help me the first couple of days.

[James Lee]

Could you stay an extra day and.

[Brian Harpel]

Come with me to the first event? I said, of course. So we're driving in.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Megan and his team has drones up.

[James Lee]

Looking at the crowd from above, and they.

[Brian Harpel]

They text him some video, and there's thousands of people there an hour before the.

[Emma Imagination]

The start.

[James Lee]

And I said, charlie, okay, so it sounds like there were drones. And I did try to look okay. So I. I was like, okay, maybe he misspoke. Whatever. No, there was drone footage. I found it. Here it is. Let's see. Oh, there you go. Here's hats being thrown out. You can see the. The little amphitheater that they have there at uvu. You could probably see the top of the LOSI center right there with this shot.

[Emma Imagination]

Yeah. Also, I bet if you were on the ground, you could look up and see if there's a guy on the roof of the gun. If that was your job to do that, you know, even if you couldn't use a drone.

[James Lee]

Well, so, I mean, my theory that is that it probably didn't come from that particular rooftop. That's what I still say in that whole situation, is that it's not possible that it was the one thing that people keep ignoring.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right?

[James Lee]

Because people say, oh, this, the. The Egyptian planes, this and that. I'm like, okay, I don't care about all that. Let's go back to just regular physics, you know, with a 30 06. I've seen so many videos on this, I have yet to see one expert marksman or sniper or hunter be able to produce what we saw. In terms of the gruesome public execution. That amount of. Of damage is. Is not compatible with that type of weapon. It's just not physically possible.

[Emma Imagination]

Yeah, of course. Also, Pastor Rob McCoy with his nonsense story about his son was covered. His son, who was walking a dot in the distance on his phone, was covered in blood. Every one of them is telling lies every single time. By the way, Pastor McCoy, you know, his dad is right. Roy McCoy, the retired Navy intel, his chief of staff for psychological warfare in the Navy in 1952. So the great generation is McCoy is involved in all kinds of great things.

[James Lee]

Yeah, absolutely. So, in terms of just.

[Chris Keane]

Covering our.

[James Lee]

Basis here, somebody actually looked up what the UVU policy was around the drone flying a drone over uv because he's like, oh, this is some airspace that just prohibited this and that. Here's what it actually says. It says, those seeking authorization to operate a UAS on university property must submit a request for authorization to operate a US UAS slash drone on UVU property. Available on the Office Risk Management website to the Office of Risk Management. This request shall include an acknowledgment that authorized pilots of UAS on university property must comply with this policy, blah, blah, blah. So, essentially, yes, you can do it. You just have to apply for a permit to do it. It looks like maybe they did, maybe they didn't. I mean, there were actual drones up there. So we just saw. So I don't know what. I don't know what they're going on about with these lies, because they're being easily debunked. Not just by Candace owns, just by people online saying, you know, you just literally said something different last week that you just said there was a bunch of drones up there that you guys were flying. So what is. What is going on here. Does anybody actually buy the. Does any. Did anybody actually buy that interview with Sean Ryan? I don't know.

[Emma Imagination]

I mean, I don't understand. There's all these like, Joe Rogans that came out of nowhere all of a sudden, you know, they're all like, supposedly.

[James Lee]

John, Sean Ryan's been around for a while, but he's, you know, he. What is he? He's a former Navy. And he also had in that. I don't have the clip, but he also asked what is a patsy? You know, some say he was just playing dumb, but I'm like, well, he.

[Emma Imagination]

Probably is doing it. I mean, I could see that being the people at home that have never.

[James Lee]

You would just say that. You would just say, okay, for everybody at home, just clarify what do you mean by a patsy versus what is a patsy?

[Emma Imagination]

You know, what is it?

[James Lee]

I think Joe Rogan to say that, you know, Jamie, look that up.

[Chris Keane]

Ye.

[James Lee]

What is a patsy? So I thought that was particularly kind of dumb coming from.

[Emma Imagination]

You had that chick on, from the, from the CIA that was talking about how ISIS is snuck in the country and Al Qaeda. Oh, they got, they made it in the White House. Did someone tell that brave CIA one? Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, man.

[Emma Imagination]

Al Qaeda's in the White House. Shaking Trump's hand.

[James Lee]

So this is the TPUSA verified lies. This is from Candace here. So the amazing, heroic Mikey McCoy had blood all over him. You just talked about that. No blood. Right. He just literally picked up his phone, walked away, you know, for whatever reason. We don't know. Right. We don't know how people respond to tragedy. That's what they say. It's that he, you know, he, he was kicking it, you know, he was kicked into, into gear and he's like, I gotta do what I gotta do.

[Emma Imagination]

My friend's been shot. I immediately called my dad and told him to call some other guys to pray. That's what you did. Okay, I guess that'll help.

[James Lee]

Number two, Charlie was a committed evangelical who only like Catholic architecture. I'm not sure where this lie comes from. I, I don't actually know about this one. This is a bizarre one. Yeah, I don't haven't done enough research to really understand number two. But three just brought it up. Right. Charlie's next stopped a 36 bullet because he ate salad and had strong bones. It was a modern day Christian miracle.

[Emma Imagination]

Was a salad part of their thing? I don't remember hearing that.

[James Lee]

Well, he said he had very strong bones calcium, you know, content or whatever percentage in his Bones. Bizarre number four. Charlie never, never blinked in his support for Israel. Right. Josh Hammer.

[Emma Imagination]

I know that's a lie.

[James Lee]

That's a lie. Right. He was saying I might have to break with the pro Israel, may have to abandon the pro Israel cause until.

[Emma Imagination]

He died in a few weeks from having my friends Dave Smith on who I keep blaming for his death publicly. And Dave doesn't like it, but I do it.

[James Lee]

Wait, why are you blaming Dave Smith for his dad?

[Emma Imagination]

I just say he got it because he went on tpus. He was there at the event and they didn't want. Not, not the shooting at the. What, Charlie at the, the July.

[James Lee]

The conference.

[Emma Imagination]

Okay. Right. So. And so they. Right after that it's non stop. The Laura Loomer of the. Of the world. Why don't you just admit you're anti Semitic? Because you had the Jew Dave Smith. Dave Jewish, by the way. Why are you. And they were non stop with an anti Semite. He is. And all he had done was allow like Charlie offered up maybe the most tepid public criticism of Israel by any standard. That's reasonable. And they were all over him how he's a scumbag anti Semite up until he suddenly was dead. Then they're like, he loved Israel. And then, you know, it got a.

[James Lee]

Little more suspicious that went up within the day of his death. And I said, you guys, are you sure you didn't know anything about this?

[Jimmy Dore]

Right?

[James Lee]

You guys literally painted a mural in less than a day. Massive mural in Tel Aviv.

[Emma Imagination]

Oh my God. Really? Oh, that's not a good sign.

[James Lee]

Okay, I, I, well, I put it into grok and I just said, given the size mural, how long would it take? And grog said, well, for, for a proficient, you know, artist, it would take about seven to 10 days.

[Emma Imagination]

So Rob McCoy, somebody. Who's Andrew Colvette? I don't really know who that.

[James Lee]

Oh, so Andrew Colvette is the producer. He's the producer of the Charlie Kirk show.

[Emma Imagination]

Oh, oh, okay.

[James Lee]

He's that guy.

[Emma Imagination]

So missing those SD cards. They took the, the camera that was there that he took down. He's. I don't remember why he.

[James Lee]

That one. That was, I think Tyler Bauer. That's coming up Next on number six. But the magnificent Mikey McCoy called his father first. So that was evidently a lie because Eric came out and said no, she got the call immediately. The minute of the assassination.

[Emma Imagination]

The records went to her. Is it. He called her? That's what the record said.

[James Lee]

Yes. And then he called his dad. Obviously we don't really know the order. We do know that he was not covered in blood. So that was an absolute lie. There was also this thing about the SD card.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[James Lee]

Told to remove the camera. There was the, the cameras that was behind Charlie that would have pretty much captured everything that was removed by Tyler Boyer. The SD card that was also disappeared. Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk never had any bad blood between them. That's obviously not true. Now we know Charlie establishing Doge was not unusual. So this was referring to the audit that Charlie Kirk ordered.

[Emma Imagination]

Oh that Tyler Power was going to be caught up in, was he not?

[James Lee]

Yes, possibly. We don't know. Allegedly Turning Point has submitted financial audited. Turning Point has financially audited the company every year since its inception. So that's really not out of the ordinary. Mikey McCoy was the hero of that day. Yeah. So there's been a lot of lies and it's so easy to, to sort of debunk these lies. I don't know if this is something that you know, they didn't expect to happen. Right. Maybe they thought it was I guess 1963 still. Because I'm sure after JFK was shot everybody had similar questions as to what the hell actually happened. How many shots were there were. How did the bullets do what they did? How is it possible is one bullet. But we didn't have this kind of virality or, or information sharing ecosystem that we do now.

[Emma Imagination]

They planned for it. You can see because there's four or five plausible explanations of where the shot came from and at least four or five suspicious people that they've caught on camera that it's specifically designed for the people to argue over how the method that it was done and forget about the overall picture of why it was done. It wasn't a furry. A disgruntled furry. I don't buy it. I, I think I know who did it and I, and I, I, I, I can't prove it. But if I had to guess there's certain, well let's call them best friend slash aircraft carrier of ours in the Middle east that does like this all the time.

[James Lee]

Well so that is, that's the big intention that's got me in trouble. I was last week's and I think there's a new person this week but last week's recipient of anti Semite of the year. I don't know if you knew that but that was.

[Emma Imagination]

You're the anti Semite of the year.

[James Lee]

No, sorry, sorry. Not the year. That was Candace. Last year. Sorry. Of the week. Of the week of the year. I am nowhere.

[Emma Imagination]

Oh that's right.

[James Lee]

I think he was a finalist. I think it was like Fuentes and Tucker Carlson and Candace, I believe she won.

[Emma Imagination]

If you publicly exonerate Israel of this murder then you can be with the good people and you back like our friend is.

[James Lee]

Oh I was day one I was talking to a friend of mine and she was having dinner with people in the Senate and she said immediately people in the Senate was if intel com agency or no the Senate Intel Committee were saying that oh maybe it was Israel. So regardless of whether I know anybody.

[Emma Imagination]

In the know is saying that privately. Yeah 100 that's why it's so funny. But whatever. I just go on the next one. I mean I, I if people can't see that, they're not going to see it. If you haven't looked it up. I, I don't dwell on Twitter no more. What? Because people are so dumb or they're fake or they're hired by it. That's all.

[James Lee]

That's Officer Tatum. Have you looked at Officer Tatum and his.

[Emma Imagination]

Yeah, I've harassed him with AI.

[James Lee]

Hey, you know here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy dork.com clicking on join premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member and if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. Thomas Massie. So he is. We showed him earlier. He was called out by Congressman Randy Fine for being the one anti Semite left in Congress, so to speak. And let's take a listen here to what he has said that is so anti Semitic. Let's take a listen here.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

That is wrong. Do not let the Senate muck this bill up. And if you are, if you're a party to that in the Senate, you are part of this cover up that we are trying to expose. I am sorry if one of your billionaire donors is going to get embarrassed because he went to Rape Island. That is what they have coming. In fact they need to be on the other side of bars. A lot of them, Some of them will be embarrassed but some of them need to go to prison and the survivors know that. So how will we know if this bill has Been successful. We will know when there are men, rich men in handcuffs being perpetrated, walked to the jail. And until then, this is still a cover up.

[James Lee]

All right. Oh, Kurt's back.

[Emma Imagination]

Did you hear that? Anti Semite. What He's.

[James Lee]

Well, that's what I'm saying. It's, it's extremely anti Semitic to say that you want, as people might refer to as PDF files, to go to jail. That is extremely anti Semitic.

[Emma Imagination]

Anybody on the 7k tweet club, you are verifying that not only did Epstein work for Israel, but that you know he did, and that's why you wouldn't want it to come out. Because when you want Israel, the most moral country and the most moral army in the world, to be exonerated of their connection to such a terrible thing.

[James Lee]

Well, yes, and the other thing I'll add is that that is and should be the litmus test in terms of whether or not we should be satisfied with the Epstein release, is if they release stuff, whatever it is that they release and nobody goes to jail, then this is still a cover up, as Massey says. Okay. If there's not people being walked to the jail, then it's still a cover up.

[Emma Imagination]

And, yeah, you know why the Trump Bubba thing makes sense now? You know why the Trump Bubba blow job makes sense? Because at the end of the day, they all diddy party together, don't they?

[James Lee]

Right. And if you do anything that prevents the files from coming out, if you do some things, because right now they're doing everything they can. Right? It passed with flying colors. People have pointed out, I thought it was hilarious, that it somehow went from, oh, my God, it's, we can't release this and it's a hoax and this and that. And now it's like, okay, we have to release the files. We're going to investigate everything because now they're going to use the investigation, quote, unquote, investigation as a pretense to redact information that is critical to whether it be the victims or the perpetrators or now national security.

[Emma Imagination]

The Democrats are going to expose it to a certain amount that hurts Trump, but doesn't expose anything because they're all in on it.

[James Lee]

They're all in on it. So if we don't see some actual accountability, I think we're going to be pretty screwed going forward. And in terms of who might be benefiting or, or, or, you know, behind this. Right. Massey recently gave an interview, we're going to play it in a second, where he talks about the fact that Israel is influencing the Epstein File release. Obviously that's. But. But apparently it's still anti Semitic to say that. They say Israeli intelligence and our own CIA was wr with Epstein. So it will be embarrassing for our own intelligence agency and Israel's intelligence agencies for that to all come out. Let's take a listen to Thomas Massie.

[Candace Owens]

Again, believe Netanyahu's involvement with Trump is influencing the decision of the Epstein file release.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

I think Israel is influencing the Epstein file release because Israeli intelligence and our own CIA was wrapped up with Epstein. And so it would be embarrassing to our own intelligence agencies as well as Israel's intelligence agencies for all that to come out. And if you notice, there are a lot of bots online and people who are paid. Maybe they're not robots, but they are paid, and they're going after Marjorie and I uniquely. And I think. I think it's because we are against the war that Israel has in Gaza right now, and we want that to end. And we don't vote for foreign aid, and we don't vote for military aid for these other countries that are at war, and we get in trouble for that.

[Candace Owens]

Do you think Epstein's still alive?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

No.

[Emma Imagination]

I hope so.

[Candace Owens]

And do you think he was a Mossad agent?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

I mean, Watson. But let's talk about agent. I think he helped Mossad.

[Candace Owens]

Was he collecting blackmail on our politicians and that's why no one wants these released?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

You know, I don't know if it was blackmail, but like does is. Let's say you were a drug user and you bought drugs from a drug dealer. The drug dealer doesn't blackmail you. The drug dealer has what you want, and then you start doing things for the drug dealer. I think Epstein was a sex trafficker, and so he supplied the women. I'm not sure that he was blackmailing his clients, but he was definitely getting favors from them by finding them women and offering women to them. So I'm not sure. And then obviously, once you've done enough of that, there is a lot of blackmail material.

[Candace Owens]

You don't think there's, like, hidden tapes anywhere buried in the ground in a bunker somewhere?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Yeah, I think there probably are tapes.

[Kurt Metzger]

Like that, I don't think.

[Candace Owens]

Getting erased by the people supposedly they're on his desk.

[James Lee]

I remember that still.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Well, Pam Bondi said there were a lot of tapes.

[Candace Owens]

That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of misinformation and conflicting information out there. So how do you expect the American people to believe any of it?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

I believe about 1% of it myself. I literally don't trust anybody up here except Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Bobert and Nancy Mace most recently because those were the three women that co sponsored about Ro Khanna. I'm talking about on the Republican side. I do, I do trust some Democrats like Ro Khanna.

[Candace Owens]

People are saying that you're acting like a Dem. A dirty dem, Dirty dem.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Well, this was. You know what's interesting about Epstein is the President said it was a hoax, but now he's going to investigate the hoax.

[Chris Keane]

Right.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

When he announced all these investigations and then he also encouraged everybody to vote for it.

[Candace Owens]

So why is he so mad at reporters too, that are asking about the files?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Fake news. You fake news?

[Candace Owens]

Is it fake news?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

No, it's not fake news.

[James Lee]

That was pretty epic. So, yeah, obviously there's no. The thing is, Kurt, there's no proof.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[James Lee]

They keep saying there's no proof that he was a Mossad agent. There's no proof that he was tied into any intelligence. Not even anything. Any children and anybody.

[Emma Imagination]

James, we may never know what country Jeffrey Epstein worked for. We may never know. Maybe a forensic historian could piece together who. Jeffrey Epstein.

[James Lee]

Well, evidently he helped broker an Israeli security agreement with Mongolia. That's.

[Emma Imagination]

I think he worked for Qatar, I.

[James Lee]

Think totally normal for, you know, I wonder who he was working on behalf in this particular situation. As reported by Drop Site News. And he also, you know, helped Israel build a back channel to Russia amid Assyrian civil war. That's fun.

[Emma Imagination]

You know, Nick Bryant was on the show and he, he, the, the, the human trafficking is a minor component of it. He was moving massive amounts of money for probably all of the Five Eyes intelligence agencies.

[James Lee]

Yeah.

[Emma Imagination]

So he was quite a bit more important. The financial, as with Whitey, Webb's always talking about it, the financial aspect is way bigger than this. Way bigger. And we already know what's there.

[James Lee]

Right. So you think the, the sex trafficking or the, you know, the pedophilia, this kind of thing was just more.

[Chris Keane]

It's.

[James Lee]

It just plays into the hands because now you could be controlled stuff.

[Emma Imagination]

It's just Disney kid stuff. Okay.

[James Lee]

You want people with these kinds of proclivities because they're easier to keep in line. Right?

[Emma Imagination]

Yeah. A lot of blackmail is not really blackmail. It's like you party together. So, you know, I know, I know Lee's cool because he banged on these lines that we cut, you know, like, like, dude, so I know you're not a cop. There's a horrible crime against a child, so I know you're cool. It's. It's like, stuff like that.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[James Lee]

Let's see what else he was up to. Helped Israel sell a surveillance state to the Cote d', Ivoire, the Ivory Coast. Leaked emails show that details behind talks between Koti Ivar and Israel shepherded by Ehud Barack and Jeffrey Epstein.

[Emma Imagination]

Yeah, because Israel's number one in. In security, James. That's why. Except that that's why it is that one day. But otherwise, they're the best, aren't they?

[James Lee]

What about this Israeli spy stayed for weeks at a time with Jeffrey Epstein in Manhattan. Leaked email show Epstein working on a wire transfer to Ahud, Barack's top eight, Yoni Corn, who regularly stayed at his apartment. That's also a hoax, right?

[Emma Imagination]

Yeah. Lewis Black on Tuesdays with stories. And we've played it on here, I think. And Mark Norman and Joe List, and they're talking to Lewis Black, who went with Bobby Slayton because Epstein was trying to meet. Everybody went to his New York place. Wow. And Lewis Black said he went in and there was this marker board on the wall with like, I don't know, I don't know, football plans or something, like drawings on it. And. And Jeffrey goes, oh, yeah, the Defense Minister of Israel is just here. We were going over plans for Israel and Louis Black, he goes. And I was like, why the was he here? And why were you guys talking about it? And why are you telling me this? This is creepy as hell immediately. Because that's what you would think. Like, so. Yeah, no, we already know and we already heard. Even if you want to go with the most tepid things of Netflix documentary items about it. Ghislaine, her dad worked for Israel. Okay. And she was in charge. Jeffrey wasn't in charge. Also, by the way, Ghislaine was in charge. Glenn's the hand.

[James Lee]

I don't think they talked about this in the Netflix documentary. I don't think it was a single Israel talked about.

[Emma Imagination]

The one girl said she wasn't allowed to eat. She goes, they're not going to feed you because you're not Jewish. Because remember. Yeah. I forget if it was Virginia, which one was talking about it, but Leslie Wexner is a massive part of this. Okay? They made it like he got. They implied in the Netflix one that Jeffrey, like, tricked him because he's secretly gay and he was just a silly, lonely old gay man that gave Jeffrey all this stuff. That's how they kind of. They didn't say it, but they implied it, which I thought was hysterical. This is an old gangster group that goes back, you know, it's all the research has been done. You go read United States of Blackmail. These gangster ties are real. They've. It's a network. It's been around forever. Just a series of mafias. And this guy was by no means the head of anything. Epstein. He's a node in it. Hugh Hefner was doing the same scam. Remember Hugh Hefner? This guy thing where. Yeah has a bunch of chicks you could bang at his house. That's not because they're just cool. That's because they're not. Okay. I know that's a fantasy everyone wants to believe. Like is this is really cool house with an old man. All these young, hot, naked chicks.

[James Lee]

But it's over. And they all. They do. Their only strategy left is basically to say if you discuss this, then you're an anti Semite. If you bring up or get something right. If you bring up, let's say was another one. If you bring up that he was tied to the Rothschild's banking empire to help finance Israeli cyber weapons, then you are an anti Semite.

[Emma Imagination]

That's why Marjorie Taylor Greene is accused of saying Jewish space lasers, which she never said.

[James Lee]

Did she not say two space lasers? I thought she said.

[Emma Imagination]

No, that was. What was it, Jonathan? Hate, was it? Maybe not him. Another guy whose name's like that Jonathan.

[James Lee]

You talking about the New York Times guy or who's.

[Emma Imagination]

And he's the one. Because she mentioned the Rothschilds talking about fires and they go oh, Jewish space lasers did it. But she didn't say that. That's a smear insult they made about her.

[James Lee]

Interesting. Because even me, I always thought that she said Jewish space lasers.

[Emma Imagination]

No, she never did. And. And I have the book Jewish Space Lasers by a Rothschild who's not related to those Rothschilds. All about where do these conspiracies come from? I mean, it's unreal that. That you would even have to ask a question because you guys are very dishonest. All the leaders are so dishonest and dodgy and they act like a boyfriend who's cheating on you every time you ask him a question. That's where the conspiracies come from. It's not. It's not hard to figure out.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[James Lee]

So I. I think at this point, if the cat's out of the bag, we'll see what they're able to release. It's supposed to be within 30 days. Right. It's. They're supposed to get it done before Christmas, so we'll see what we get.

[Emma Imagination]

There's a bunch of people ratting at every part of it. You could go listen to them. My friend Emma Imagination podcast talks to all Monarch victims. You, you know, just hear everybody's story out. You could piece the story together. You don't need to wait for disclosure, like a little pat on the head. I don't know.

[James Lee]

I mean, my prediction. Well, so then what do you think will happen in terms of accountability? Because what I'm thinking is they would. They have to throw a couple people to the wolf.

[Chris Keane]

The wolves.

[Emma Imagination]

It'll be lame, and it's gonna. It's falling apart.

[James Lee]

But, you know, let's say Larry Summers, right? Larry Summers just basically resigned from everything that he was doing, right? He resigned from the board of Open AI. He resigned from Harvard's leadership. He stopped teaching the class. So he's definitely up to something. You don't resign if you're innocent, right? If you're innocent.

[Emma Imagination]

People recorded. I haven't seen the recording, but he. They recorded him talking about his times with Epstein, which is really funny, dude, because I remember that when the gas went up and he was like, well, Americans need to get used to it because Ukraine, we got to help Ukraine. He was real smug about that. So good for him. My buddy Kyle Dunnigan played Tony Rob. He bombed. This is one of the best bombings I've ever heard of that. I've been done again on Tony Robbins birthday island that he has birthday party with his whales. And he had all these great. These important speakers. And before Kyle went on to do his impression of Biden, Larry Summers was the guy talking, speaking before him. And Larry blew the light by a half an hour before Kyle got on of not doing comedy, by the way, Larry Summers just droning on about God knows what. Certainly not a cool Epstein island story. After Larry Summers did like a 40 minutes.

[James Lee]

Well, he's cooked now. He's definitely cooked at this point. He's definitely guilty of something. I think he's the perfect person if you were to pick somebody to just say, hey, we're gonna lock this guy up. He's, you know, very. He's well known enough where people were like, yeah, okay, okay, we got a big, you know, big fish, but he's not so big that he can't be fried. You know what I mean?

[Emma Imagination]

Yeah, they'll always cut like a. You know, it's. It's networks of networks is the way that. Yeah, so it's easy. Like Jim Jones.

[James Lee]

I'm just trying to find public expectation for this, because if they. And I think. If people think that there's going to be like, everybody's going to jail. It's probably not going to happen.

[Emma Imagination]

There's not a chance.

[James Lee]

Yeah, we're lucky if we can get one or two. I mean, saying maybe one or two.

[Emma Imagination]

Right.

[James Lee]

You got to do something.

[Emma Imagination]

I think you. The luckiest thing you could have is a bunch of people to get more and more disillusioned. That's why I have to thank Cash Patel for being such an absolute obvious failure and liar, scumbag trader, because that opened up a bunch of people's eyes watching his stupid face he makes while he lies to you.

[Jimmy Dore]

Welcome to Jimmy Dore show, everybody. Keaton and Russ from due dissidents in for Jimmy while he is on the road. Well, Donald Trump had some very, very kind words for the Palestinians yesterday. Very kind words. This just warms your heart to hear that. So he's taking a question from a reporter during his meeting with the Saudi crown prince and he. Every time he detects an accent from a reporter, especially a woman, it seems he has to ask where they're from. It's just this weird personality court where when he hears an accent, he's like, oh, it's an interesting accent. Where are you from? What was the guy. What was the. Didn't he ask somebody that? He asked, where'd you learn to speak English to the Liberian president? Yes, Liberia.

[Kurt Metzger]

We speak English.

[Jimmy Dore]

We speak English there. Yeah. So here he is asking a reporter where they're from and they tell him they're Palestinian.

[James Lee]

Will you visit Damascus?

[Chris Keane]

No.

[Emma Imagination]

But where are you from?

[James Lee]

I'm from Palestine.

[Emma Imagination]

Oh, making a lot of progress, huh?

[James Lee]

They like Palestinians like me.

[Kurt Metzger]

The Palestinians, they love you.

[James Lee]

Well, actually, I think we're working very closely with a lot of people that make everybody happy, including Israel.

[Jimmy Dore]

You know, you look kind of fat for a Palestinian. I hear they're kind of hungry over there. Am I right? It's a greatest funny joke. Am I right? Oh, that's a great thing to say. One more time.

[James Lee]

And will you visit Damascus?

[Emma Imagination]

No, but where are you from?

[James Lee]

I'm from Palestine.

[Emma Imagination]

Oh, making a lot of progress, huh?

[James Lee]

They like the Palestinians, like me. The Palestinians are doing very well, actually. I think we're working very closely.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, they're doing very well.

[James Lee]

Make everybody happy, including Israel, the Palestinians and everybody. That's very interesting.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, they do it. They love me and the Israeli. Everybody loves each other over there. That, that, that whole, that whole area there. It's just a big love fest going on. And. Yeah, those Palestinians doing very well. Here's New Drone footage from just a couple of weeks ago.

[Kurt Metzger]

I hear they're calling it Genocide Woodstock over there.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, exactly. Here is Gaza City just a couple weeks ago. They're doing great, Doing very well over there. Don't they love me? Foreign? They really love me. They're very grateful. On top of that, in devastated Gaza, overcrowded tent camps spread. Amid the rubble, Palestinians reel under winter rains as Israel blocks Gaza shelter supplies. That's right, it's the winter. They tend to have rainfall in the winter. And the Palestinians are largely living intense right now, which means the tents are flooding. Heavy rains flood Gaza tents with sewage, putting thousands of children at risk. Save the Children says children in Gaza are sleeping on bare, wet ground in clothing soaked with sewage water after heavy rains flooded hundreds of tents and makeshift shelters over the weekend, heightening the risk of disease as winter sets in. The group said more than 13,000 households were affected by Friday's flooding as Gaza's sanitation system has largely collapsed after two years of Israeli bombardment, siege and severe aid restrictions. With drainage systems destroyed, Rainwater mixed with sewage inundated tents, soaking mattresses, blankets, clothing and even food supplies. According to the humanitarian shelter cluster, two thirds of Gaza's children, around 700,000, are living in tents that are falling apart after two years of bombardment and displacement. So to give you an idea of what that looks like, here's a video from Gaza notifications. Once again, don't, don't forget.

[James Lee]

The Palestinians are doing very well. Actually, I think.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, no, they're doing very well. Doing very, very well. Here's some more Palestinians. A little girl clings to her grandfather, shaking from the cold as rainwater pours into their tent. Yep. On top of that, Israeli airstrikes killed 25 Palestinians in Gaza, rattling ceasefire again. The ceasefire rattled. Medics say. You know what the date on that is? It's a little small. The font. Today, November 19th, Israeli airstrikes killed 25 Palestinians. So flooded, hungry, denied basic aid, and by the way, despite the quote, unquote, ceasefire still being bombed. But they're doing very well. They're doing very well. And he has, he has great things to say about the Palestinians. So does his press secretary here, who still, still as late as this week, using the word Palestinian as a slur and an own against Chuck Schumer.

[Candace Owens]

They are moving to the left. They ran Senator Gillibrand and Senator Manchin out of town. Now they're running Chucky Schumer out of town. It's too bad he turned into a Palestinian. He did it for nothing. Like President Trump says because his own party is turning against him and the Democrat Party is truly becoming a full blown Communist party.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, right, sure. Still using the word Palestinian as a slur. By the way, folks. All this happening as the United nations, that glorious body, thank God for them, right? They just adopted a resolution authorizing a board of peace and an international stabilization force in Gaza, as outlined in the United States Comprehensive Plan to End the Gaza Conflict. What that really means from Mondoweiss UN Security Council approves Trump's Gaza peace Plan greenlighting U S Israeli control of Gaza's future, they write. On Monday, the United Nations Security Council approved the Trump administration's peace plan for Gaza. The resolution calls for the establishment of an international stabilization force to demilitarize and govern Gaza while Israel withdraws from the area. It also includes the formation of a peace board in line with Trump's plan stipulating the deployment of international forces to stabilize Gaza and grants the peace board a mandate until December 2027, according to a U.S. official quoted by Axios. The stabilization forces would have an executive role, not a mere peacekeeping one, which means they would have the authority to disarm Palestinian factions and oversee security matters in the Strip. This aligns with Israeli demands that the deployment of international forces should be under Chapter 7 of the UN Charter, which not only grants them executive powers but also facilitates the formation of these forces without approval from all parties. The resolution also references the prospect of a Palestinian state if a credible pathway is established as a result of the plan. Who decides what's credible and not credible? You guessed it, the Americans and the Israelis. The vote is facing strong backlash from Palestine advocates across social media. The UN Security Council has just adopted the horrific US resolution with 13 yes votes and 2 abstentions, tweeted human rights lawyer Craig McKeever. Not a single family of the Council had the courage, principle or respect for international law to vote against this US Israel Colonial outrage Prior to the vote, Hamas released a statement on telegram rejecting the presence of an international force in Gaza, assigning the international force with tasks and roles inside the Gaza Strip, including disarming the resistance, strips it of its neutrality and turns it into a party to the conflict in favor of the Israeli occupation, it read. Any international force, if established, must be deployed only at the borders to separate forces, monitor the ceasefire and must be fully under UN supervision. Other Palestinian political factions collectively rejected the resolution in a joint statement on Sunday preceding the vote, the factions called the US Resolution a new attempt to impose another form of occupation on our land and our People. The statement added that any foreign intervention in Gaza is a violation of our national sovereignty and a continuation of our people's suffering. And the only way to achieve stability is by ending the occupation, lifting the siege and the respect of our people's rights and inalienable rights. Medea Benjamin puts it well, the UN is a miserable joke. The nation that provided the bombs for Israel's genocide, the US is now in charge of the Gaza peace plan with a global stamp of approval. This is insane, pathetic, and it utterly discredits the un. So in other words, the Palestinians are doing very well. They're doing very, very well. Drowning in sewage water, freezing, in cold temperatures, in flooded tents, still being bombed from the air. And there's no cavalry coming because the United nations just approved without a single naval. Because Russia and China, in real display of courage, decided to abstain rather than veto it, which they could have. They have now put Donald Trump and the Israelis in charge of not only the reconstruction of Gaza, but the management of this so called peace.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, and in the west bank you have these inbred cousin settlers burning down people's olive groves. Yeah, yeah. It's, it's, it's really something that puts the lie to the idea that civilization has advanced. We like to think we don't do things like the Trail of Tears anymore, but we do. And we have. We're doing it right here in broad daylight. We like to think we wouldn't do things like the famine in India caused by the British or in Ireland for that matter, caused by the British. But here we are. This is as bad as any of the worst genocidal crimes committed by Western powers in certainly in modern history. And by modern, I mean the last several hundred years. It's not that you can't find examples where we were responsible for equal crimes. You can't, you can't really find greater ones. Like, look at those videos. Look at that. How are these people supposed to survive? You just had these planes land in South Africa that are being flown out of Palestine by a very cryptic organization that actually only takes cryptocurrency as payments so that there's no way to trace its funding. And they're working with the Israeli Defense Department. They're not doing this to get around the Israeli Defense Department. That's part of the ethnic cleansing. Look at that. Part of this peace plan is that they are specifically not going to rebuild within that area.

[Jimmy Dore]

Within the Red Zone. Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

How long can people live like that? And you have this organization taking Palestinians out. Look, as much pride as you might have as much of a desire to maintain your cultural legacy and your right to that land as you might want, what are you going to do when you have your little granddaughter there is going to die if you don't get her out? And they offer, you can get out, we'll get you out, we'll take you to another country. It's the plan is ethnic cleansing to keep it so intolerable that just for the sake of people's families, man, they're going to leave if you give them the option eventually.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, yeah. So for, because I don't have that in the graphic, but since you mentioned it, they partition Gaza essentially into a red zone and a green zone. So the red zone, most of the red zone, it's kind of a U shape with the, obviously the sea on the western side, but the, the bulk of the land in western Gaza, which is where the most heavily populated areas are, are the red zone, which is not going to be rebuilt until, of course, they're done rebuilding the green zone, which is the Israeli occupied zone. And that, that, that is where this governing force is going to be the executive body. And so, yeah, it's pretty obvious what, what their goals are and that, you know, nothing is going to get better for the vast majority of Palestinians in Gaza unless it happens on the Americans and the Israelis terms, which at best is a concentration camp. That's what they're talking about. But moving some people from the red zone into the green zone with the hopes that more people will want to move out. Right. In order to purge Gaza, which was the plan all along, and eventually, yes, ship people out. Right, right.

[Kurt Metzger]

And you look at what they're doing in the west bank where they're destroying these olive groves that have been there for generations. So these people have no way to make a living, just constantly brutalizing them, making it impossible for them to live there. This is the Greater Israel Project, man. They're trying to clear Palestinians out of that entire territory.

[Chris Keane]

Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Jimmy Dore Show. I'm your guest host, Chris Keane. I'm here with Misha and the very funny Kurt Medzker. Kurt's favorite comedian is back in the news. Bill Maher, Kurt's biggest influence.

[Emma Imagination]

He got my emails.

[Chris Keane]

Bill Maher refuses to do stand up comedy again because, quote, I could get shot by the left or the right. I don't want to be out there in this country in this political atmosphere. Kurt, are you trying to gun down Bill Maher again? I told you to stop doing it.

[Emma Imagination]

Still Young person other than a black hooker he owes money to that is that angry at him? Well, you people. Bill Maher is like, first of all, his positions are indefensible. He made religious religion, remember?

[Chris Keane]

Yes, I saw that.

[Emma Imagination]

Religious people are nuts, and we're gonna have World War iii. And now he fully supports the terrorist Ben Gavir wing of Israel.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah, that is.

[Emma Imagination]

Which. Not. What is it like at least 70 of the justification of Israel is the Bible story.

[Chris Keane]

Yes.

[Emma Imagination]

Okay. Which. He hates the Bible. And, you know, so that's a very strange thing to have to reconcile on stage. I bet it's kind of hard.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah. I found that movie really weird. He would, like, go into churches and be like, why? What's wrong with you people? It's like, really? Is this.

[Emma Imagination]

Everybody gets to talking to. Except Netanyahu, that guy.

[Chris Keane]

Right.

[Emma Imagination]

Okay, Bill. That makes sense.

[Chris Keane]

Well, here's Bill here talking about.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah.

[Emma Imagination]

I mean, shot with a great point.

[Bill Maher]

Got off the road this year for the. I mean, I had been doing it for.

[James Lee]

Really.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, I stopped doing it at the end of 2020.

[James Lee]

What made you stop?

[Bill Maher]

A number of things. Just get tired of the travel, obviously. I miss doing it also. I feel like it was a great choice because I don't want to be out there in this country in this political atmosphere. I could get. I could get shot by the left or the right.

[James Lee]

Yeah, Well, I mean, it's just.

[Bill Maher]

It's a good time to not be out there. And also, apropos of this discussion, I just got tired of being.

[Chris Keane]

Who's trying to gun down Bill Maher? Who? I feel like if you asked anyone under 50, who's Bill Maher? Most people wouldn't even know. I. I mean, I. I've. I like Bill Maher to some extent, but this stuff is also a little ridiculous.

[Emma Imagination]

Well, he. In his head, what happened to Charlie Kirk. But even Charlie Kirk was more resident with younger people that would be. Hate him or love him.

[Chris Keane]

Yes.

[Emma Imagination]

Than Bill Maher. I don't think Bill Maher understands that his interview with Hawk Tua did not bring in the young viewers that he thought it would, is all I'm gonna say.

[Chris Keane]

Oh, man.

[Bill Maher]

Twice as funny as people who were selling twice as many tickets as me. And that's just a. You know what?

[Chris Keane]

That's partly because he's twice as funny as people selling twice as many tickets as him.

[Emma Imagination]

Now, here I thought Marin wasn't narcissistic enough.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Bill Maher]

I'm on TV every week, so. Not that I didn't sell a lot of tickets. And you Know, do great theaters, but I didn't sell arenas. And some people did who, frankly, are not that great. But, you know, when you're. The audience is 35 to 45, they don't want to see somebody 70.

[Jimmy Dore]

They did.

[Bill Maher]

It's your thing about, you know, the Searchers. I want to see my generation. Right.

[James Lee]

Someone new.

[Bill Maher]

And it's. And, okay, so I still have my show. I have this. I didn't need it. I miss it. But that's part of what it is, is, you know, I see some of the comedy that is popular today, and some of it's good, and some of it is like, yeah, it's just like the rap thing, like. Or. I mean, I do like some rap, but, like, lots of new music. It's like.

[Emma Imagination]

What are you saying?

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, I get that these kids.

[Chris Keane]

He's saying he doesn't get rap music these days. Just like, he doesn't get a lot of comedy these days.

[Emma Imagination]

Well, most white people have no idea what rap is.

[Chris Keane]

Right.

[Emma Imagination]

Dave Chappelle is someone attacked with a knife that identified as a gun. Yeah, I, like, people have been attacked. Not to him.

[Chris Keane]

Yes, I do think this is a bad sign for the country and for comedy overall.

[Jimmy Dore]

That.

[Chris Keane]

I mean, the fact that. Who knows if this is. If he's even being honest here, but if he is actually concerned about getting shot or killed or whatever, it's a terrible sign. I mean, Bill Maher's been on TV for years. He's talked about politics in public for years. I mean, he was canceled off of his show back in the day for making comments about 9, 11. And he.

[Emma Imagination]

Back when he would say something.

[Chris Keane]

Right.

[Emma Imagination]

He's completely owned by Netanyahu, either financially or just mentally.

[Chris Keane]

But.

[Emma Imagination]

But it's all. This is his bullshit with Israel, all of this.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah, but I think it's very telling of how bad of a place we're at that that someone like him is. Is actually concerned about performing, if that is true, because he's been through a lot of stuff in the past that never stopped him before.

[Emma Imagination]

Well, maybe someone will notice it. Finally, we're in a bad place. I don't know. What does it take for people to notice that the whole thing's a scam? What else does it take?

[Chris Keane]

Yeah, I don't.

[Emma Imagination]

Bill, you lost Bill Maher's tour.

[Chris Keane]

Well, it's not a good sign when any comedian is scared to perform, especially someone who's been in controversies before, and it didn't stop him before. So Bill Maher told Pat will show.

[Emma Imagination]

Up in Bomb at spots and they're like, how do you want me to bring you up? Tell them it's a special treat. Go up and fall. It's amazing he just now feels this way.

[Chris Keane]

I'm just maybe, maybe he'll start doing open mics again. That would be fun. Bill Maher told Patton Oswald on the latest episode of the Club Random podcast he is no longer interested in hitting the road for stand up comedy shows. Given the country's intense political divide. The often outspoken Mar regularly stirs up backlash from both sides of the political aisle on his HBO talk show Real Time. I don't want to be out there in this country in this political atmosphere. I could get shot by the left or the right, mar said. It's a good time to not be out there. Maher also acknowledged that he is tired of the travel and tired of being twice as funny as people who are. I wish I had that confidence. That is unbelievable.

[Emma Imagination]

Well, I mean, great. Like how's, how does your paying audience feel about it? Right. That's how you know, right.

[Chris Keane]

So he noted that because I'm on TV every week, it gives fans less incentive to buy tickets. Who's watching TV anymore? No one is watching tv.

[Emma Imagination]

Well, if you have. If you are paying for tv. So I'll bet you're like, I don't need to. Oh, thank you. I don't need to go out again. I just saw Bill Maher on hbo.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah, that's true. Not that I didn't sell a lot of tickets. Don't get the wrong impression. And he did great theaters, but I didn't sell arenas and some people did. This just sounds like bitter complaining. So I don't understand. This part of this is the weakest.

[Emma Imagination]

Shit I've ever heard my life. Yeah, it's really bad.

[Chris Keane]

I feel like the last. So he's just saying his last special was his best and he's a. Bill Maher is a big fan of Bill Maher. That's what I've learned from this segment. Maher has upset the left in recent months by attacking crazies in the Democratic Party who have gone too woke while he drew backlash from the right for speaking out against ABC suspension of Jimmy Kimmel last month. Maher made headlines in March when he said he was partial to some of the things Donald Trump is doing in his second administration as president, which drew scorn from fellow comedians like Mark Maron now. Right. Well, there isn't a comedian alive that Marc Maron hasn't been mad at. But.

[Emma Imagination]

You never say anything about me But I mean, I don't. Well, I better watch.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah, I'll say something about you, Kurt. I'm a big fan. I like what, I like what you're doing. I like where. But say what you want about Bill Maher. He's the only guy, I think, on network television, on mainstream television that would do these things that you see here that would criticize both sides and have any semblance of a nuanced conversation. So that I do appreciate about Mar.

[Emma Imagination]

Until it comes to Israel, cut you off, of course. And in, in religious lists, he does that to one of those Orthodox Jews that doesn't like Israel.

[Chris Keane]

Yes.

[Emma Imagination]

He just cuts him off. He goes, I'm not listening to this crap. So you never get the argument from that guy. Yeah, at the time I didn't care. But now looking back, he's been owned since then. At least just based on that.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah, I, I haven't seen that movie in a long time. After the shooting death of Charlie Kirk in September, Maher told viewers that it's pointless to debate whether or not Democrats or Republicans are worse because both sides are guilty of rampant toxicity.

[Emma Imagination]

Yeah, let's just get behind Israel and shut our mouths, you know?

[Chris Keane]

You know, it's funny, you say stuff like that and people call you like a fascist. I've been called a fascist for saying stuff like that. For just saying that both sides are.

[Emma Imagination]

Equally hang out with people that I would never even give five seconds.

[Chris Keane]

A lot of, a lot of woke comedians who I love and guess where they are.

[Emma Imagination]

And all of them, all of them would sell out any one of their fake ass principles. This much of anything in the business. Yeah, I watch it for years and years and years. So I already know who they are.

[Chris Keane]

Yep. Well, Bill Maher, as arrogant as ever. But I do appreciate what he does and I think he does make. He makes good points about that. The left that, you know, both sides are guilty of these.

[Emma Imagination]

He's got good writers, some of whom are. Yeah, a lot of his friends. I have friends are writers of his.

[Chris Keane]

Oh, that's cool.

[Emma Imagination]

You know, some of them are like, they don't like me because of Jimmy now. Like, I don't even know if Feldo still works there. But I was very curious because I know Bill has dinner with Netanyahu and shit. He's a regular Tim Pool.

[Chris Keane]

Oh, I didn't know he's a regular.

[Emma Imagination]

Chatham House with the guy.

[Chris Keane]

Damn. Well, here we are again. Yeah, so I like that he calls out both sides. No one else on television's doing that. And.

[Emma Imagination]

Right. Not for. Not both sides. For supporting a literal genocide.

[Chris Keane]

Oh, yeah. Not that we'll let that slide.

[Emma Imagination]

For the nonsense thing that the same oligarchs that support the genocide gave us called Woke, which it was called Social justice warriors, if you remember. It wasn't called Woke. They stole that off of Erykah Badu. Off of Black Twitter. The whole thing's been nonsense the whole time.

[Chris Keane]

Yes. And I just think it's a bad sign that veteran comic is quitting for reasons like this. And he's a huge narcissist.

[Emma Imagination]

He's.

[Chris Keane]

Well, that makes it even worse. So, I mean, think of that. He's. He's a huge narcissist and he's stopping performing. A narcissist would not want to stop.

[Emma Imagination]

I've seen this a bunch of times. The guy that shows up and thinks he's going to go do some late night show after he's grown fat from his regular HBO plum assignment. That's what the deal is. So you're not even related to. You show up and then you see some. Some kid that I don't know is talking about pussy or whatever, whatever bothers him. And then he goes up with his tepid. Except when it comes to Israel. Then it's extreme takes on things.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah.

[Emma Imagination]

Like it's his HBO audience. It's not going to be like that.

[Chris Keane]

Right.

[Emma Imagination]

These people are vain, dude. The reason I'm a failed comic, and here's why I'm a failed comic. I do stand up for a living. I don't have a thing of like, oh, maybe I'll stop. Because I don't. I don't feel safe. I don't. Hey, do I start out in all black in Philly? Shut the up. You don't feel safe?

[Chris Keane]

What a. Well, I would like to live in a world where we can free. Feel free to speak our mind. Do comedy. Not worried about getting shot?

[Emma Imagination]

Yeah. Well, no, I think always have to worry about being shot.

[Chris Keane]

And I think I don't want to be, you know, not to be shot. I don't mean to sound too crazy. I think. I think it is a rarity that things like that would happen. But the fact that anyone would even be worried about that in America, I think is a bad sign. All right.

[Emma Imagination]

The most shooty place.

[James Lee]

Hey, become a premium member. Go tojimmy door comedy.com. sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be, and I'll keep being me.

[Kurt Metzger]

Out.

[Emma Imagination]

I'm not kidding.

[James Lee]

Do not.

[Emma Imagination]

Do not. I'm not.

[James Lee]

I'm not.

[Chris Keane]

I'm not.

[Emma Imagination]

I'm not.

[James Lee]

I'm not.

[Chris Keane]

I'm not.

[Emma Imagination]

Freak out.

[James Lee]

Do not freak out.