Candace HUMILIATES Clueless CNN Reporter!

Summary

The Jimmy Dore Show – Episode Summary

Episode Title: Candace HUMILIATES Clueless CNN Reporter!
Date: November 21, 2025
Host: Jimmy Dore
Contributors: Mike McRae, Russell Dobular, Keaton Weiss

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Overview

This episode of The Jimmy Dore Show covers three major topics with Dore’s signature irreverent, confrontational style:

1. Candace Owens’ CNN Interview: Dore and crew analyze and celebrate Candace Owens’ combative exchange with a CNN reporter over accusations of white nationalist rhetoric and anti-Zionist comments, critiquing media tactics and language policing.

2. Epstein Files & Political Duplicity: A segment on the battle for transparency with the Epstein files focuses on the political posturing by both parties and features survivor testimonies, exposing hypocrisy and the failure of both Republicans and Democrats to deliver justice.

3. U.S.-Saudi Relations and Trump’s Embrace of MBS: The show skewers President Trump’s fawning treatment of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) in the wake of the Jamal Khashoggi murder, highlighting U.S. complicity across administrations and satirizing sycophantic media narratives.

The tone is biting, sarcastic, and unapologetically critical of mainstream media, U.S. foreign policy, and political elites of all stripes.

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1. Candace Owens vs CNN Reporter

[01:17–11:47]

Key Discussion Points & Insights

• CNN’s Interview Tactics:
  The hosts play and react to footage from Candace Owens’ post-Charlie Kirk assassination interview with a CNN reporter, whom Dore and McRae lampoon for her questioning style, vocal fry, and alleged psychological manipulation.

  • Mike McRae (01:17): “She specializes in putting her interviewee into a hypnotic sleep trance...”

• Accusations of White Nationalist Rhetoric:
  The CNN reporter confronts Owens with claims that her language (“Zionist Occupied Government”) mirrors white nationalist, anti-Semitic talking points.

  • Jimmy Dore (03:00): “Because, like, there's literally a term that's like an 80s 90s term from white nationalism. ZOG. Zionist Occupied Government... Are you intentionally referencing those kind of themes?”

• Owens’ Rebuttal & Double Down:
  Owens pushes back, calls out the absurdity of accusing a black woman of white nationalism, and defends her focus on criticizing Zionism as a political ideology, not Judaism or Jewish people.

  • Jimmy Dore (04:19): “If you need to walk out of here and say, Candace Owens is a white nationalist for you to be able to digest it, then that's fine...”
  • Mike McRae (04:52): “That's not anti-Semitic. That's anti-Zionist. Those are two totally different things.”

• Language Policing – The “They” Debate:
  Both Owens and the hosts ridicule the reporter’s focus on who “they” refers to, labeling it a semantic witch-hunt meant to stifle speech.

  • Jimmy Dore (05:27): “…if I'm not talking about Jews, then ‘they’ doesn't mean Jews… that's your own derangement... it's one of these trash tactics to make people fearful to speak.”
  • Candace Owens paraphrased (07:04): "If I have to be called a white supremacist to criticize how the administration is occupied by Zionists... so be it."

Notable Quotes

• Jimmy Dore (03:48):
  “It’s like you’re sitting across from a black person. You’re like, ‘I’ve learned about white nationalism and you’re using white nationalism.’”
• Russell Dobular (07:22): “Bam.”
• Candace Owens paraphrased (07:31):
  “If I got to be called a white supremacist to say my opinion about this administration... then so be it.”

Memorable Moments

• Owens Frustration & Lessons on Debate:
  Jimmy Dore (07:31): “I had to shut it down because I suddenly realized I was homeschooling my toddlers... here I am teaching her [the reporter] how to understand ‘they’ in a sentence.”

• Meta-critique of Media:
  Mike McRae (09:32): “These tactics are super boring and tired. ...It hinges upon suppressing speech.”

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2. Epstein Files, Partisan Hypocrisy, and Congressional Drama

[13:14–29:50]

Key Discussion Points & Insights

• Survivors’ Emotional Testimonies:
  Survivors of Epstein’s abuse testify to congressional inaction and disappointment, especially pointing out Trump’s failure despite campaign promises.

  • Survivor, paraphrased by Russell Dobular (14:02): “I beg you, President Trump, please stop making this political... your behavior on this issue has been a national embarrassment.”

• Political Shell Games:
  The hosts highlight how both Republicans and Democrats have exploited the Epstein files issue for political gain without real intent to bring accountability.

  • Russell Dobular (21:00): “If the Senate does in fact change this bill, they're part of the COVID up... the reality is Speaker Johnson's press conference shows that he is unrepentant.”

• Provisions & Redactions:
  Discussion of legislative provisions meant to prevent the quiet removal of names from the files, and skepticism regarding “temporary” redactions.

  • Keaton Weiss (27:44): “There is going to be a complete vacuum of leadership for this movement that Donald Trump created… once again, if you compare this to the cowardice on the Democratic side... Nowhere.”

• Base vs. Party Leadership:
  Comparison between MAGA’s grassroots pressure on Epstein and the Democratic base’s unwillingness to go after the party’s own implicated figures (e.g., Bill Clinton).

Notable Quotes

• Russell Dobular (24:41): “Hard out here for a pimp. ...Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene are their worst nightmare. They are just going to go to the mat on this.”
• Keaton Weiss (32:10): “It would never go after Bill Clinton.”
• Russell Dobular (32:13):
  “Feminists writing articles about how they would gladly put on their presidential knee pads... in exchange for abortion rights. I’m not making that up.”

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3. Trump, MBS, and the U.S.-Saudi Axis

[32:34–59:55]

Key Discussion Points & Insights

• Khashoggi Murder, U.S. Hypocrisy:
  Trump’s White House visit with MBS is lampooned for its opulence and moral bankruptcy following the assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

  • Russell Dobular (37:44):
    “That is just straight mob movie... Why are you bringing that up now? What are you, a wise guy?”

• Reporter Confronts the Crown Prince:
  Rare moment of adversarial questioning by an ABC reporter is praised, but quickly trivialized by Trump and MBS’ non-answers, with Dore’s team underlining the complicity across American elites.

  • Keaton Weiss (46:17): “Wow. I did not believe what they said, that you can be completely mentally retarded and be president of such a rich country, but apparently…it’s true in America.”

• Designating Saudi Arabia a Major Non-NATO Ally:
  Trump’s announcement formalizes a U.S. security guarantee for Saudi Arabia, which the hosts warn further entangles the U.S. militarily and morally with a repressive regime.

  • Mohammed bin Salman (mocked, 55:15):
    “Your majesty, I think that this is the best in terms of safety. Saudi Arabia has never been as safe as it is right now…”

• Both Parties Are Complicit:
  Segment closes with the notion that there’s little policy daylight between Republicans and Democrats on Saudi or Israeli policy – only the style of subservience differs.

  • Russell Dobular (56:10):
    “…you have to realize we're ruled by criminals from top to bottom... It's not a partisan thing. ...They all hate you and they all want to create a country that only serves their donors and the people of their social strata.”

Memorable Quotes

• Russell Dobular (53:57):
  “So if you’re in the U. S. Military, I hope you’re ready to die for Saudi Arabia because we have just taken the relationship to another level.”

• Keaton Weiss (59:03):
  “The Saudi question is very similar to the Israeli one… Trump... does understand power and he understands, you know, who has power over him. And the Saudis and the Israelis both own our ass.”

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Notable Quotes & Highlights (with Timestamps)

• Jimmy Dore (04:19):
  “If you need to walk out of here and say, Candace Owens is a white nationalist for you to be able to digest it, then that's fine...”
• Jimmy Dore (05:27):
  “If I want to say Jews, I will say Jews. I don't fear saying Jews. When I say Zionists run the media, I mean Zionists run the media.”
• Russell Dobular (13:14):
  “Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene had a big press conference ahead of the House vote with some of Epstein's survivors...”
• Keaton Weiss (27:44):
  “There is going to be a complete vacuum of leadership for this movement that Donald Trump created and nurtured up until now.”
• Russell Dobular (37:44):
  “That is just straight mob movie. Yeah. He didn’t know anything about it. We can leave it at that. Hey, you know, we don’t need to talk about that. Why are you bringing that up now? What are you, a wise guy?”

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Timestamps of Critical Segments

• Candace Owens CNN Interview: 01:17–11:47
• Epstein Files/Testimonies: 13:14–32:13
• Trump Welcomes MBS/US-Saudi Ties: 32:34–59:55

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Tone & Style

• The episode is fierce, profane, and contemptuous of media and political elites.
• Sarcasm and mockery are primary tools, often punctuated by parody voices and running gags.
• The hosts openly express exhaustion and frustration with mainstream narratives and the bipartisan status quo, often encouraging listeners to “defend yourself,” be skeptical, and challenge elite consensus.

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Closing Takeaways

• On free speech and language policing: Dore and his panel see current media practices as designed to suppress political dissent by policing semantics rather than engaging with substance.
• On the Epstein files: The show portrays both parties as insincere, pursuing the release of records only as political theater while protecting vested interests.
• On U.S.-Saudi/Israel relations: American foreign policy, regardless of who’s in charge, serves elite and donor interests, often at the expense of justice, transparency, or national sovereignty.

Final words:
The episode is a call to see through media and political performances, reject manipulative language policing, and recognize the bipartisan rot at the heart of U.S. institutions.

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For full effect, the episode is best experienced with the audio for the caustic delivery and voice performances, but this summary covers its main points and underlying spirit.

Transcript

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[Mohammed bin Salman]

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[Mike McRae]

So Candace Owens, whom I love Candace Owens, and I don't agree with her on everything, but I love her. Candace Owens sat down a couple of days after the assassination of Charlie Kirk for an interview with cnn. And it was that knucklehead CNN woman who's I think she's 40 and she acts like she's 16. She talks like she's 16 with vocal fry and all those ticks like, come on. Anyway, I'm going to show you in a second. She's the same woman who interviewed Tim Dillon and Tim Dillon humiliated her because she's such a mental case. So they so sat down with Candace Owens and Candace Owens had some fun with her. Let's watch.

[Jimmy Dore]

You can criticize Netanyahu without being anti Israel and you can criticize Israel without.

[Mike McRae]

This. This supposed reporter. She's supposed to be a reporter. You hear her, how she's talking.

[Jimmy Dore]

You can criticize Netanyahu without being anti Israel and you can criticize Israel without being anti Semitic. But some of the themes, talking points, concepts you used in your criticism of Israel, I'm very familiar with, from covering white nationalists for 10 years.

[Mike McRae]

So this supposed reporter is a highly trained psyop. She specializes in putting her interviewee into a hypnotic sleep trance. That's what I think. It's so affected, I actually feel like I'm going under just watching this. He would put an NPR listener into a coma. Okay, here we go.

[Jimmy Dore]

Very unsettling for me to Hear things like you saying, our government is occupied by Zionists. Trump is occupied by Zionists. We're an occupied nation. Because, like, there's literally a term that's like an 80s 90s term from white nationalism. ZOG. Zionist Occupied Government. It's their idea that Jews control the world. And I'm wondering, like, are you intentionally referencing those kind of themes?

[Mike McRae]

She does the vocal fry. She has it all. She has the uptalk. She has the vocal fry. She has it all. Okay, here we go. And she looks 13, even though I think she's 40.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wait, just to slow us down, are you accusing me of white nationalist rhetoric? Because I do have to have a.

[Russell Dobular]

Little bit of a giggle about that first.

[Jimmy Dore]

I mean, to me, I'm also like, they be no fan of yours. It's just. It's silly. But this is one of the things where I feel like it's such a lesson for cnn. This is why nobody watches it anymore. I mean, it's like you're sitting across from a black person. You're like, I've learned about white nationalism and you're using white nationalism.

[Russell Dobular]

Right?

[Jimmy Dore]

Like, I've known them. I've been to their valleys. I've read all their texts. I get it. I know. I'm so glad you're educated. But this is when it's like, put it in a book and anybody will say it. It's like, it's just at a certain point, you have to use your eyes and go, is Candace Owens promoting white nationalist rhetoric? Okay. Immediately.

[Keaton Weiss]

No.

[Jimmy Dore]

So what else could it be? Could it be that actually Zionism is what it actually represents? What does that mean? Is a political philosophy Zionist occupied government? If you look into the history, yes, I believe we are a Zionist occupied government. And we're not the only one. Okay, yes. Bam. Take it to the bank. If you need to walk out of here and say, canis owned is a white nationalist for you to be. To digest it, then that's fine. You know, you have to do with that in your own time. But what I will say is maybe this stuff is. That's where I stand by every statement that I made. And I. And I want to double down on it. Okay? America is occupied by Zionists.

[Mike McRae]

Bam. That was just wonderful to watch. That was just wonderful to watch. He's talking to a black woman. You know, you're repeating white nationalists. I've studied them. I know they have a thing called zog. Zionist occupied government. You know why? Because our government's occupied by Zionists. That's not anti semitic. That's anti Zionist. Those are two totally different things. That's. That is wow. That's all I can say is wow. Okay, there's more.

[Jimmy Dore]

They is a word. So, like, I don't need to always, like, say they. Like, it's just, it's just a weird. It's like this is one of these psychology tactics. You're like, who is they? Who is they? And it's like, sounds like you're saying Jews. Does the word they mean Jews when you're talking about Jews? Yes, but if I'm not talking about Jews, then they doesn't mean Jews. When I say they want us to believe this or they want us to believe that. And you hear Jews, that's your own derangement. Right? If I want to say something about Jews, I'll say it. If I want to say something about Israel, I will say it if I want to. Just like when I wanted to say something about black people, I'll say it. When I was saying during blm, they want us to believe, nobody said, do you mean Jews? And so again, it's one of these trash tactics to make people fearful to speak. If I want to say Jews, I will say Jews. I don't fear saying Jews. When I say Zionists run the media, I mean Zionists run the media. People that support the political ideology of Israel run the media. Any other things that I can help clarify?

[Mike McRae]

Right in her face. She doesn't see this coming because she lives in a stupid bubble. She lives in a bubble of moronic agreement. She didn't see it coming. And you could also see that the Muppet show hippie girl routine is just an. Is just an act to cover for her pointed agenda. And apparently a very belligerent and controlling Muppet is residing just underneath that veneer.

[Jimmy Dore]

I consider things that I can help clarify. But are you familiar with this, like, very long standing trope? Who did give us shit about a trope?

[Mike McRae]

Are you familiar? Are you familiar with a long standing trope? You're trafficking in tropes. Couldn't give a shit.

[Russell Dobular]

Bam.

[Mike McRae]

Right in your effing face. So here's what she has to say about it. Here's what Candace has to say about it.

[Jimmy Dore]

I really try not to curse, but I just felt like we needed to kill it real quick, you know what I mean? Just get her to move on from it, because I really don't care. I'm so tired of these words. I'm just. I'm tired. I'm exhausted. Are you exhausted? We're tired. Collectively we're tired. I had to shut it down because I suddenly realized I was homeschooling my toddlers. And I told her, as the interview goes on, I was like, look, I have toddlers at home. I can't teach you, you know, basic sentence. I'm teaching my toddlers how to read. And here I am. I'm teaching her how to understand they in a sentence. That's a place. What are we doing? How old is this person? And she says she's the same age as me. And I'm going, you missed first grade. You don't know what they means. And now you're just gonna. It's a trope. This is the way to respond. Okay, Just shut it down immediately. Embrace whatever you're going to be called in in her in this circumstance. If I got to be called a white supremacist to say my opinion about this administration, how it's been occupied by Zionists and the cruelties that the Palestinian children are suffering at the hands of Netanyahu, then so be it. I don't encourage you guys to cuss. It's a rare moment. Like I said, it was a couple days after Charlie Kirk died, and I just was not in the mood. But I do encourage you guys to defend yourselves in a similar manner. Now, in that same vein, if. In case you guys missed this going around, Eric and Lara Trump spoke at a recent tpu.

[Mike McRae]

Okay, okay, that's so. So that woman, when she does the. Yeah, like that hesitant college kid doing an interview, that's what she sounds like. That would have been too unprofessional for a Chris Farley character on Saturday Night Live. But it's. It's taking her very. It's. Look how far it's taken her. That stupid routine that woman does. She's like the lead idiot for cnn. Now here's some more commentary from Candace on this interview.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'd like to triple down on that. If there's anybody going. I'd like to triple down on that. These tactics are super boring and tired. And this is why. It hinges upon suppressing speech. Right? Constantly having to refer to somebody as evil or white supremacist or anti Semitic because you've lost the argument on the bait. Like there is no merit to your argument anymore. So it's all a constant struggle session of semantics. And then she moves on to they. Do you remember growing up when we were just allowed to use the word they in sentences? Nobody said, what do you mean by that? Several times. She just. What do you mean by they? As if she didn't understand how to construct a basic sentence and to refer back to the noun. She has had no idea which plural noun I was referring to. Anyways, I was not really in the mood. And here is our conversation about they. They is a word. So like, I don't need to always like, say they. Like it's just, it's just a weird. It's like this is one of these psychology tactics where you're like, who is they? Who is they? And it's like. Because it sounds like you're saying Jews. Does the word they mean Jews when you're talking about Jews? Yes, but if I'm not talking about Jews, then they doesn't mean Jews. When I say they want us to believe this or they want us to be that. And you hear Jews, that's your own derangement, right? If I want to say something about Jews, I'll say it. If I want to say something about Israel, I will say it. If I want to. Just like when I want to say something about black people, I'll say it. When I was saying during blm, they want us to believe nobody said, do you mean Jews? And so again, it's one of these trash tactics to make people fearful to speak. If I want to say Jews, I will say Jews. I don't fear saying Jews. When I say Zionists run the media, I mean Zionists run the media. People that support the political ideology of Israel run the media. Any other things that I can help clarify? Are you familiar with this, like very long standing trope? Couldn't give us shit about a trope.

[Mike McRae]

Boy, the Zionists are really doubling down. They're really in a panic because people like Candace Owens aren't going along with their garbage anymore. Yeah, Zionists control the media. People who are Zionists and have Zionist political affiliations control the media. Perfect example is your stupid interview. Your stupid interview calling everything anti Semitic. Your stupid interview is the perfect example of that. How about Jake Tapper? How about Dana Bat? They're all, they all do the bid. Wolf Blitzer. Wolf Blitzer I think used to work for apec. They all do the bidding of Israel. All of them at cnn. All of them. Thank God for Candace Owens. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy dork.com, clicking on join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business, and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support.

[Russell Dobular]

This is Russell Dobular here with Keaton Weiss filling in for Jimmy Dore. Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene had a big press conference ahead of the House vote with some of Epstein's survivors. They had quite a lot to say. A lot of their testimony was very moving, including one woman who offered to stand with Marjorie Taylor Greene if she fulfilled her threat of reading out the names of the people on the Epstein list. But here is another survivor who voted for Donald Trump, and quite a few of them had that story that they had voted for Donald Trump and were very disappointed in how he's handled this. Not a hoax. We are here as American survivors of a man who used his wealth and power to hurt young girls and women. The world should see the files to know who Jeffrey Epstein was and how the system catered to him and failed us emotionally. This process has been distressing. First, the administration said it would release everything and applauded President Trump for that. Then it fought to release nothing. Now that, that, that. Now that. That checks and balances of our democracy have worked and the bill is getting passed to release the files. We are hearing the administration say they intend to investigate various Democrat Democrats who were friends with Epstein. I beg you, President Trump, please stop making this political. It is not about you, President Trump. You are our president. Please start acting like it. Show some class, show some real leadership. Show that you actually care about the people other than yourself. I voted for you. But your behavior on this issue has been a national embarrassment. It is time to take the honest moral ground and support the release of these files. Not to weaponize pieces of the files against random political enemies that did nothing wrong, but to understand who Epstein's friends were, who covered for him, what financial institutions allowed his trafficking to continue, who knew what he was doing but was too much of a coward to do anything about it. Now, it makes a lot of sense when you look at how a lot of people have pointed out, rightly, some hypocritically, that the Democrats did not have very much interest in bringing justice for these victims before. That's a valid criticism, and it makes sense that a lot of them wound up supporting Donald Trump, who campaigned on this issue, made it core to his whole reason for asking people to vote for him. That he's going to bring sunshine to this whole issue. We're going to release the files. Bondi, right when she came in, oh, the files are on my desk. Then all of a sudden, I didn't mean. I didn't mean files. I meant fly paper. I was misheard. That's what I was saying. I didn't. I accidentally said files. And. And now they're seeing, hey, it was never. Because the Democrats took no, no initiative on this. They completely ceded it to J.D. vance. Yeah, we need to release the files. We need to release the file. Because they weren't speaking about it. But of course, the Republicans are in the files, too. Of course, what Epstein was equal opportunity. He was not focused on one party. They were able to frame it that way for years. Of course, that was never reality. So as soon as Trump got into office, all of a sudden, oh, it's a Democrat hoax.

[Keaton Weiss]

Yeah. Remember back when this was going on, Florida was a swing state. Everybody. Plenty of Democrats and Republicans down there.

[Russell Dobular]

Yes, exactly. So here is Thomas Massie at this press conference talking about how hard it has been for them to get these files released. Other survivors of other sex crimes who come to me and say, thank you. You give me hope. You give us hope. There is hope here. We fought the President, the Attorney General, the FBI Director, the Speaker of the House, and the Vice President to get this win, but they never. They're on our side today, though, so let's give them some credit as well. They are finally on the side of justice. And as Roe said, don't muck it up in the Senate. Don't get too cute. We're all paying attention. If you want to add some additional protections for these survivors, go for it. But if you do anything that prevents any disclosure, you are not for the people and you are not part of this effort. Do not muck it up in the Senate. All right. And Joe observes, the weight of the entire Trump administration was used in an effort to protect PDF files. Think about that. Yeah, absolutely. So here's. We had this in a previous clip, but this will be clipped separately. This is worth taking another look at to keep it all in context. So Johnson assumed that Thune would bottle this up in committee in spite of Massie's warnings not to do that. I. To do as a leader in a situation like this, I call my counterpart in the Senate leader. Thune and I talked him through this with him and shared our deep concerns. And of course, they share those concerns as well. And so I'm very confident that when this moves forward in the process if and when it is processed in the Senate, which is no certainty that that will be. That they will take the time methodically to do what we have not been allowed to do in the House, to amend this discharge petition and to make sure that these protections are there. The authors of the discharge did not allow us to do that here. That's the rules here. But in the Senate, they can correct it. So all for the victims. So Professor Zenkas calls this out. This is complete garbage. Redacting victims names is not hard. Replacing them with victim number one or victim number 12 is not hard. DAs do it all the time. This has nothing to do with victims. Johnson is trying to protect predators. Mike Johnson is full of. And this is the tack they've taken from the beginning with Blanche dubois Bondi doing her whole aggrieved Southern Bell thing. We are not going to do that to the victims. There are disgusting videos and people will never see that. Yeah, that's what people were asking for. Of course, that's what people were demanding. Yeah. Of for the videos of underage victims to be released. Yeah, that's what we're talking about, Pam. But of course she knows that. So here's Ro Khanna being asked about this ridiculous premise that they would have passed this bill without having protections for the victims. They're protected in this bill that was poorly drafted. The speaker is saying that.

[Keaton Weiss]

So the speaker thinks he knows better.

[Russell Dobular]

Than the victims themselves. I mean, instead of insulting the survivors.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

Maybe you should have shown up and.

[Russell Dobular]

Listened to the survivors.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

The survivors are the ones who want this bill.

[Russell Dobular]

And of course it protects the victims because we worked with the survivors in drafting the bill. And here's Massie's take on that question of what it would mean if the Senate did not vote for this in its current form or in a much altered form.

[Keaton Weiss]

Impact.

[Russell Dobular]

If the Senate does in fact change this bill, they're part of the COVID up. And these bozos here, they pretend like, okay, now we're ready to pull the band aid off. After five months of shooting themselves in the foot, politically and morally, they're ready to pull a band aid off. But the reality is Speaker Johnson's press conference shows that he is unrepentant. They have a background backup plan. And I think it's going to work poorly for them. By the way, by the time they get done with trying to cover up by having these other investigations or having amendments in the Senate, they're just going to make more people complicit. Like it takes somebody to offer those amendments and then they're going to have votes on those amendments. And I would encourage them to pass this bill as is. Put it on the president's desk. It's got protections to prevent the release of child pornography. That's a lie. The speaker. Go read the bills, guys. It's right in there. It's got protections. Okay. Call to activism here. Points out Khanna and Massie quietly provision in the bill that the DOJ must notify Congress, both Republicans and Democrats, if they make any redactions in the files. They are not going to be able to quietly take daddy's name out of the files without anybody noticing it. Brian Allen Massey just blew up Mike Johnson's entire excuse. Johnson is now claiming the Epstein bill, quote, risks exposing non credible victims, whatever that means. Yeah, but survivors support this bill and have said so repeatedly. So Massie is asking the real question. Is Mike Johnson calling every Epstein survivor non credible just to protect the men who flew to that island? Because that's exactly what it looks like. Well, it's because that's exactly what it is. And here's Massie. For anyone hoping to use ongoing investigations as a reason to withhold Epstein files, please read the language of the bill. Narrowly tailored and temporary. Thank you for your attention to this matter you've received. Really hates Trump. So let's read. The clause would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary. So it allows them to do that. But if it is very narrowly focused and if it is temporary now, of course, and we'll get to this in your segment, Keaton, already Bondi is trying to pull this very predictably. I would predict that they're going to try to drive a truck through the opening that temporary allows. What does temporary mean? That's not a strictly defined term. But here's Massie dropping the real truth. Bob, is that simple. Why do you think he is working so hard not to get them released for so many months? What do you think the real reason? Is it these files implicate billionaires and friends of him, of his and political donors that he's trying to protect. And Epstein also had close ties to our own intelligence agencies and intelligence agencies. That's why there's so much effort in trying to stop this. And. And I do believe they'll try to. To stop it somewhere else and that's going to backfire on them, too.

[Jimmy Dore]

So the President.

[Russell Dobular]

Yep. No lies detected. And this was a pretty funny overall tweet about the situation From Clint Russell. Pour one out for Cat Turret, who had to go from loving MTG and demanding the Epstein files be released to then hating MTG and pretending the Epstein files didn't matter to then celebrating the release. All because Trump whipsawed his regarded grifting ass all over the place. Indeed. Man. Hard out here for pimp. Hard out here. Yeah. Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene are their worst nightmare. They are just going to go to the mat on this. You know, you want to analyze their political motives, that's fair enough. They're politicians, I would say, particularly in the case of Massie, who has been extremely consistent throughout his political career, who is not in the process of undergoing a seeming conversion to a kind of different point of view or a different politics. Massie has always been very straight arrow. Whether, whether you agree with him or don't agree with him. Nobody can really question his honesty or his integrity. And that, that's a nightmare for them. That's a nightmare. This is a guy who's not going to shut up about this. As they try to wiggle their way out of releasing these files. And he and Marjorie Taylor Green are giving the disaffected MAGA base a place to go. They're, they're, they're not, they're not going to go join the Pete Butta Judge coalition.

[Keaton Weiss]

Right.

[Russell Dobular]

Given it, given that option. They're, they're just gonna become, they're just gonna join the legions of non voters and non politically engaged people. They're holding up the banner of what I would argue most of Trump's coalition thought they were voting for that. At this point, most of them have realized they're not getting, they're getting quite the opposite from this administration, right down to something as core as the Epstein files. You're down to the most broken cultists, I think, in Trump's coalition at this point. And the numbers show that. You've been sharing some numbers with me from some of the counties from last week's vote, and you're seeing these 50 point swings that not only speak to higher turnout for Democrats, but complete collapse in turnout for Republicans. Why? Because they're looking at this and they can no longer say, this is what I voted for. It's the opposite. This is exactly what they did not vote for. Having Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene gives them someplace to go, which I think is going to erode Trump's political position even further. You know, we, we've talked about this. There's a very good chance that they push him out before the midterms one way or the other.

[Keaton Weiss]

Well, yeah, I mean, that's what makes the politics of this very smart on their part, is that they can see that the party as a whole is crashing into an iceberg. And so they are trying to think, okay, how can we best position ourselves to emerge as leaders in the conservative movement after the shakeup of the impact. Right, because there's going to be an impact and that's going to force some sort of rejiggering of the MAGA movement because Donald Trump, as we could see from this vote, has completely lost control of his own movement. And so who takes the reins? You have to think about that. And the reason why that's an urgent question is because there is going to very, very soon. In fact, you can argue there is one right now. There is going to be a complete vacuum of leadership for this movement that Donald Trump created and nurtured up until now. And once again, if you compare this to the cowardice on the Democratic side, the squad members were never willing to do that. The Progressive Caucus was never willing to do that during the build back better fight. They eventually caved to protect Joe Biden because they didn't want Joe Biden to be embarrassed and not have any bill he could sign and take ownership of. So they're like, well, we better just do what's best for the party, meaning the Biden presidency, knowing, I assume, that it was doomed to fail. They knew that their party was on a course to disaster. And rather than, rather than differentiate themselves from Joe Biden and from the mainstream Democratic Party, they chose to go down with the ship. And where are they now? Nowhere. Nowhere. Right. Are doing the opposite. They're saying, okay, if this ship is crashing, I'm going to be the one saying, hey, crashing. We have to, we have to do something different so that when we crash, people will look to me as the one who said, you know what, I warned you and we have to change course. That's why the politics are so smart.

[Russell Dobular]

They also have the advantage that MAGA has. You know, not that there are no disagreements in that coalition, but there's something there like a cohesive political philosophy and governing philosophy. And there is no equivalent in the Democratic coalition. There is no equivalent vision that that coalition agrees on. That's that a defector could say, come over here. I am that thing you believe in. You got, you got this party made up of shit libs and kind of a soft left, that shitlib adjacent. That's not, you know, that's not the kind of thing that Arouses people's moral passions even as they make the Epstein list central to their political identity. They won't even censure Plaskett, who's not even a fucking real congressperson. She's a delegate.

[Keaton Weiss]

Right.

[Russell Dobular]

They won't even do that even now.

[Keaton Weiss]

Well, that also speaks to why this issue was never raised during the Biden years. It's not only that the democrats are a lot. Democrats are in the Epstein files, which of course we know is true. It's that they're the. The Democratic voter base would never raise this issue and make a stink over it because the Democratic voter base would never want to endanger the good names of their party leaders who they love so much they're not nearly ornery enough. Whereas the MAGA base was like, no politician is going to touch this issue unless you make them. Democrat, Republican, doesn't matter. Right. They all are guilty, broadly speaking. Right. So no politicians just gonna, like, take it upon themselves and say, you know what? I'm. I'm, you know, gonna lead the charge, release the Epstein files and I'm gonna get hundreds of people along with me. You'll have rogue actors like Massie who do it, but you're never going to get a whole party behind this unless they are under extreme pressure to. And that pressure ultimately comes from the base of the party, from the people. The. The Democratic base was never going to put pressure on the Democratic party to do anything about this the way the MAGA base did in this instance. There's just no doubt about that. Yep. All right.

[Russell Dobular]

It would never go after Bill Clinton.

[Keaton Weiss]

That's right.

[Russell Dobular]

Writing freaking at feminists, writing articles about how they would gladly put on their presidential knee pads for. In exchange for abortion rights. I'm not making that up. No, that really happened.

[Keaton Weiss]

Of course. Yeah. I would have loved to see the look on their face when they realized Trump was there first.

[Russell Dobular]

So the Saudis are in town. They're in town. They're visiting. Trump claims slain journalist Khashoggi was extremely controversial. Defend Saudi crown friends. So this is. This is the journalist in question here, Jamal Khashoggi, entering the Saudi consulate in Turkey on October 2, 2018. Spoiler alert. He never left. He checked in. He did not check out. Breaking Trump host Saudi crown prince Bin Bin Salman at the Oval Office for the first time since he chopped up an American journalist with a bone saw. And what a welcome it was. Let's take a look at that. That was quite a welcome.

[Keaton Weiss]

Like from Aladdin, where Aladdin rolls into the palace on the Elephant. They should have had him come in on an elephant.

[Russell Dobular]

I got a whole orchestra. Hey, hey, there's a. That's what I call them. Bone size. This one's crazy with that bone saw. You keep the journalist back a few feet. Yeah, you never know.

[Keaton Weiss]

So you will get a tough question here.

[Russell Dobular]

I can probably see that.

[Keaton Weiss]

Not.

[Russell Dobular]

Whatever. So MJ Truth Ultra here, a pay trio. Patriot Kaboom. President Trump and Ben Salman team up to destroy despicable ABC Fake News reporters who tried to embarrass the Crown Prince. Listen to what MbS says. He says Osama bin Laden via CIA documents, used Saudi people to destroy USSA alliance. That right. That is significant that he stated this. I. It's. This is really the worst timeline, man. It's really the worst timeline. For anyone who doesn't know. I. I mean, I think anyone watching Jimmy show understands these people are fake. They get paid. They get paid. They're being paid. Marjorie Taylor Greene called this out about the organization Influenceable. It seems that a lot of these people get their money through Influenceable. That they're controlled by that they're completely fake. No one's this stupid. No one's this stupid. I mean, people who don't realize this is fake, I guess, are that stupid. No one making a living doing this is that stupid. Let's put it that way. So this is. This is their little tete a tet with ABC News and the Crown prince. Is it appropriate, Mr. President, for your family to be doing business in Saudi Arabia while you're president? Is that a conflict of interest?

[Jimmy Dore]

And your Royal highness, the US Intelligence concluded that you orchestrated the brutal murder of a journalist. 9.

[Russell Dobular]

Eleven families are furious that you are here in the Oval Office. Why should Americans.

[Keaton Weiss]

Who are you with?

[Jimmy Dore]

And the same to you, Mr. President.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

Now, who are you with?

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm with ABC News, sir.

[Russell Dobular]

You're with who?

[Jimmy Dore]

ABC News, sir.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

Fake News. ABC Fake News.

[Russell Dobular]

One of the worst.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

One of the worst in the business. But I'll answer your question.

[Russell Dobular]

Thank you.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

I have nothing to do with family business. I have left. And when I've devoted 100% of my energy, what my family does is fine. They do business all over. They've done very little with Saudi Arabia, actually. I'm sure they could do a lot. And anything they've done has been very good. That's what we've done. We've built a tremendous business for a long time. I've been very successful. I decided to leave that success behind and make America very successful. And I've made America More successful by far than it ever was. Was.

[Keaton Weiss]

Oh, yeah.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

And that it ever could have been. No matter who was president, there would be Nobody bringing in $21 trillion. That I can tell you right now. As far as this gentleman is concerned, he's done a phenomenal job. You're mentioning somebody that was extremely controversial. A lot of people didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about. What do you like?

[Russell Dobular]

A lot of people did. Didn't like him. So, you know, a lot of. There are a lot of world leaders. They, they, they get other people to chop up the journalist with a bone, so he does it himself. I wish I could chop you up with right now. They won't let me. They won't let me. Because we're trying to change that right now. That's why I got Pam. Maybe eventually we'll be able to invite you to the embassy, young lady.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

Or didn't like him. Things happen. But he knew nothing about it. And we can leave it at that. You don't have to embarrass, I guess, by asking a question like that.

[Russell Dobular]

That is just straight mob movie. Yeah. He didn't know anything about it. We can leave it at that. Hey, you know, we don't need to talk about that. Why are you bringing that up now? What are you, a wise guy? You're a wise guy. And, and, and I want you to look at the way that the M. MJ Ultra account there set that up. Like, what are they trying to orient people towards? Like, here's a reporter. So you complain that reporters don't do their job, which is valid. We complain about that all the time. Here's a reporter actually doing her job. But they don't want you to support that. They want you to be a peasant. They want you to bend the knee to powerful, wealthy people who would not. If they ran over you. They wouldn't even get out of the car to make sure you were okay. All right? They would keep going. They might back up a couple times to kill you, make sure you're dead. These people would not piss on you if you were on fire. That is what they're being paid for. Because there's one thing that scares people like this. The people. Because there are more of you, many more of you, than there are of them. They need to constantly propagandize you into thinking that their success is your success, even though it obviously is not. Quite, quite the opposite. They need to constantly control the minds of the people because if they ever come together and momentum moves against them, they're cooked. They're cooked. There are billions of normal people. It's what a few thousand of people who are in this economic strata. That's why they pay from the corporate media down to the ex influencer to keep you brainwashed. To keep you brainwashed. To watch something like this and think it's not only normal but this somehow represents your enemies being beaten, not your enemies beating the living out of you. Allow me to answer. You know I feel painful about you.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

Know the families of 9011 in America.

[Russell Dobular]

But you know we have to focus on reality. Reality.

[Keaton Weiss]

But it seemed like a good idea.

[Russell Dobular]

At the time based on a lot of documents that Bin Laden, he used Saudi people in that event for one main purpose is to destroy this relation. To destroy the American Saudi relation. That's the purpose of 9 11. So whoever buying that Israelis in video they're doing a. The Israelis always do horror. They always do horror. If you come to the Middle east, all the Israelis dancing all the time. Don't worry, don't worry. That's nothing. That's nothing. That means they are helping Osama Bin Laden purpose of destroying this relation. He know that strong relation between America and Saudi Arabia. It's bad for extremism, it's bad for terrorism and we have to approve him. Wrong.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

And to build our relation, continue developing our relations.

[Russell Dobular]

It's critical in the safety of the world. It's critical against extremism and terrorism. Also we have worked out with Khashoggi's widow. Bill Burr and Dave Chappelle have agreed to give a special performance at her birthday party. So we are, we are making restitution to the family.

[Keaton Weiss]

Making restitution. Philly's little brother, whatever happened there, it's.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

Really painful to hear, you know anyone.

[Russell Dobular]

That been losing his life for you.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

Know, no real purpose or. No, not in a legal way.

[Russell Dobular]

And it's been painful for us in Saudi Arabia. We've did all the right steps of investigation etc in Saudi Arabia and we've improved our system to be sure that nothing happened like that. And it's painful and it's a huge mistake and we are doing our best that this doesn't happen again. I am taking anger management class to make sure I don't chop up any more journalists. I am taking responsibility. I am. Look, I'm starting with the man in the mirror. Okay, so you. Wow. Yeah, that was pretty incredible. So David Icky here responding to MJ Maga, Truth, Ultra bomb, whatever the he calls himself. No, they didn't. The reporter asked two legitimate questions. Followed by Trump kissing tyrant Salmon's backside. Good for family business. And Salmon perpetuating the lie that Osama bin Laden was behind 911. Salman will know who really orchestrated those attacks. An inner circle combination of the Israeli government and military intelligence and the US Government, military and intelligence. Damn. Yo, David, Ike is the man.

[Keaton Weiss]

David, Ike is. David, Ike is the og.

[Russell Dobular]

We should get him on, man. Yeah. Trump also threatened the same reporter with ABC's broadcast license being revoked for the crime of asking another legitimate question about the Epstein files. What a free speech warrior. He even accused her of being insubordinate. The arrogance of it. Salmon is a brutal dictator and Trump is a pathetic liar and bully. Boy, that's quite a team. And they throws it back at him. Kaboom. You know these people, they're all making in out like something that wasn't. He gave me a golden bone saw. So what about it? I like them. We partied. We partied. Bill Burry, you know, he says it was wonderful over there. Treated him wonderfully. So treat a Percy here. I commend the ABC reporter who was who asked mbs Both about 911 and the murder of Khashoggi. I just wish American reporters would also ask Netanyahu about the ICC arrest warrants, his genocide in Gaza, the apartheid system he runs and ten thousands of children. He is murdered. You know what that is? That's a legitimate criticism of the media. That's what you call a legitimate criticism, unlike MJ Ultra's criticism. So this was pretty interesting. This is classic Trump. He very often doesn't. Doesn't know when to ixnay on the reality. Nay. So drop side here. Pay attention to Crown Prince MBS's body language as Trump brags about ordering the long planned attack on Iran, saying he and the Crown Prince have always been on the same side of every issue. Trump claims with the strike we wiped out the nuclear capacity of Iran. Saudi Aran ties have shifted in recent years with Riyadh and Tehran restoring diplomatic relations under a China brokered 2023 deal of reopening embassies. Riyadh has signaled it wants de escalation across the region even as Trump frames the Iran strike as a point of great pride. So, yeah, this is pretty funny. There's Trump. Like, yeah, yeah, you remember that time that we bumped, that we bombed Iran together? Yeah.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

Thank you. We've been really good friends for a long period of time. We've always been on the same side of every issue. I think we've done a great job in wiping out the nuclear capacity of Iran. Nobody else could have done that. No other president would have done it. And we had the pilots in the Oval Office right here. We were celebrating a very successful attack. So I had them in with that beautiful B2 bomber that's over there. And they said, sir, for 22 years we practiced this attack. Our predecessors, these were very young guys. So 22 years they sent our predecessors and us practiced the attack on Iran, but no president ever gave us the go ahead. Three times a year they went out and they practiced in the attack. Nobody let us do it until you came along. And I let them do it because it was the right thing to do. You can't have a nuclear Iran. And so we put you in a very good position. But I just want to say it's an honor to be your friend and it's an honor that you're here and if you'd like to say a few words, but thank you very much.

[Russell Dobular]

Thank you, Mr. President.

[Keaton Weiss]

Wow.

[Russell Dobular]

I did not believe what they said, that you can be completely mentally retarded and be president of such a rich country, but apparently believe this is true in America. Even it so much opportunity, Even person with IQ of 68 can be president. Yeah, that was. That was quite something. The moment was the best illustration yet that the period of diplomatic isolation Prince bin Salman endured following Khashoggi's murder is over. For his first visit to the White House in more than seven years, the crown prince was welcomed with all the trappings of a state visit, the highest form of American diplomatic reception. Yeah, I've never even seen that man. Like, I can't remember anybody who got greeted at the White House that way with the horses, with the bands. His black Mercedes limousine was escorted onto the South Lawn by a team of dark horses as a military band trumpeted his arrival. A a flyover of fighter jets that included F35s. The jets trump says he's planning to sell to Riyadh blared overhead. Later, Trump hosted a black tie dinner in the East Room. We're going to be taking a look at that next. Sitting in the Oval Office, Trump heaped praise on the crown prince, including for what he called his incredible record on human rights. The President touted new deals on Saudi investments in the United States and affirmed his plans to sell the American made jets. Even as the crown prince stopped short of committing to some of Trump's priorities. Hanan Alotkar, a lotter Khashoggi, Jamal Khashoggi's widow, responded to Trump's claim that her slain husband was extremely controversial, saying that was no reason for him to have been assassinated. Quote, this is not justification to murder him. Jamal was a good, transparent and brave man, she said in a statement to cnn, adding that many may not have agreed with his opinions and desire for freedom of the press. The crown prince said he was sorry so he should meet me, apologize and compensate me for the murder of my husband, unquote. In an editorial, the Post wrote that Trump's comments dishonor Khashoggi's legacy, stand at odds with the facts and are beneath the Office of the President framework. Doesn't know he worked for the Washington Post. The CIA assessment released in 2021 found the prince approved the assassination of the Washington Post columnist, though he has long denied any involvement. During his first term, Trump largely shrugged off Prince bin Salman's potential role in Khashoggi's murder, though he described himself as extremely angry and very unhappy about the killing. His successor, President Joe Biden, pledged as a candidate to make Saudi Arabia a pariah. But even Biden came to recognize the kingdom and its crown prince were too powerful and influential to ignore entirely. He flew to the country in 2022 in a mostly unsuccessful attempt to convince Saudi Arabia to increase its oil output. This from Aaron Mate at the time 2021 under Biden US accuses MbS of ordering the operation that killed Khashoggi but will not sanction him because Biden administration says that would be hostile to the Saudi dictatorship. Remember this next time Biden claims to care about human rights or sanctions another country in the name of it. Absolutely, absolutely. Trump doesn't own this. Trump's hope is that Saudi Arabia eventually joins the Abraham Accords, his signature diplomatic achievement by normalizing its relations with Israel. But Prince bin Salman made clear that wasn't happening Tuesday or any time before a clear pathway exists for an independent Palestinian state. Quote, we want to be part of the Abraham Accords, the crown prince said. But we want also to be sure that we secure a clear path to a two state solution. So too was Prince bin Salman non committal when it came to providing funding to help rebuild Gaza. He said he was in discussion on the matter before Trump interjected to insist it'll be a lot. The crown prince did say he would increase Saudi Arabia's investment pledge in the United States from the 600 billion announced in May to 1 trillion, a massive figure that's nearly the kingdom's entire yearly economic output. All right, so you know what I'm calling that. They're blowing smoke up his ass. They are not going to invest the equivalent of an entire year's income of Saudi Arabia to the United States. That's not happening. That is. That'll be one of my New Year's predictions. Easy one, easy money. Trump, meanwhile, seemed eager to provide new American assistance to Saudi Arabia, including a defense pact and an agreement that would help the kingdom develop a civilian nuclear program. Mostly, however, he seemed intent on honoring the Crown Prince who has consolidated power and is now the kingdom's day to day ruler. I just want to thank you, Trump said. We've been really good friends for a long period of time. We've always been on the same side of every issue. So this is Trump during his first term being asked what he thought about the murder of Khashoggi Tape.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

I don't want to hear the tape. No reason for me to hear the tape.

[Russell Dobular]

Why don't you.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

But I've been.

[Russell Dobular]

Why don't you want to hear it, sir?

[Mohammed bin Salman]

Because it's a suffering tape. It's a terrible tape. I've been fully briefed on it. There's no reason for me to hear it. In fact, I said to the people, should I? They said, you really shouldn't. There's no reason. I know exactly. I know everything that went on the tape without having to and what happened. It was very violent, very vicious and terrible.

[Russell Dobular]

A month ago, you said you had spoken with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

Salman and that he had told you.

[Russell Dobular]

Directly that he had no knowledge of this.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

That's right, and still says that. But we now know that some of.

[Russell Dobular]

The people closest to him, some of his closest advisors were part of this question. Did NBS lie to you, sir?

[Mohammed bin Salman]

I don't, I don't know, you know, who can really know. But I can say this. He's got no many people now that say he had no knowledge. What if the Crown prince speaking to.

[Russell Dobular]

You, the President of the United States directly lied to you?

[Mohammed bin Salman]

Well, that. He told me that he had nothing to do with it. He told me that I would say maybe five times at different points. What if he's, as recently as a few days ago, do you just live with it because you need him? Well, will anybody really know? All right. Well, anybody really know. But he did have, certainly people that were, were reasonably close to him and close to him that were probably involved. You saw we put on very heavy sanctions, massive sanctions on a large group of people from Saudi Arabia. But at the same time we do have an ally and I want to stick with an ally that in many ways has been very good.

[Russell Dobular]

So if. Who can know? Who's to know? Who's to know? It's like I said to my old friend Jeffrey, I said, did you fuck Melania? He said no. He said no many times. So, you know, I believe a lot of people who know Jeffrey say, oh, yeah, he had that. He had coming and going. He said it five times though. So who knows? Who's to know? You know, she's the mother of my children now. I don't like to delve into those things. Let bygones be bygones. So if you're in the U. S. Military, I hope you're ready to die for Saudi Arabia because we have just taken the relationship to another level. This is from DD Geopolitics. Breaking Saudi Arabia designated major non NATO ally. President Donald Trump has announced a formal US Military security guarantee for Saudi Arabia designating the kingdom as a major non NATO ally in unveiling a brand new strategic defense agreement with Riyadh. This is historic. It means Washington is now committing to Saudi Arabia's defense in a way it never has before. A level of partnership previously reserved for countries like Japan, Israel and South Korea. Let's hear that.

[Mohammed bin Salman]

Really think about it. Your majesty, I think that this is the best in terms of safety. Saudi Arabia has never been as safe as it is right now. You always had a little cloud over your head and sometimes that cloud was very big. That cloud is not there anymore. And we want to get to keep it that way. So that's why tonight I'm pleased to announce that we are taking our military cooperation to even greater heights by formally designating Saudi Arabia as a major non NATO ally, which is something that is very important to them. And I'm just telling you now for the first time because I wanted to keep a little secret for tonight. I just heard him say, oh, that's nice. That's another point you won today. But. And signing a historic strategic defense agreement which we just signed a little while ago. So congratulations at south.

[Keaton Weiss]

Congratulations. Just do us a favor. Try, try not to chop too many.

[Russell Dobular]

People up, you know, not right now. Yeah, not right now. We need, we need to have Benny in the closet. Put out a few more videos about the upsides of chopping up journalists before we, we get enough people to. To think that's what they voted for. Yeah, I think a lot of people have to ask now, who supported Trump? Is this what you voted for? Did you vote for the military to die for Israel? Did you vote for the military to agree to die for Saudi Arabia. Is this what you voted for? There's something, you know, I think if you're just a normal person like most of us are, you have to, you have to realize we're ruled by criminals from top to bottom. We are ruled by criminals and people who serve criminals, who propagandize on behalf of criminals. And we, it's not a partisan thing. We saw in that segment Aaron mate calling out Biden. Biden went and kissed their asses. This is not exclusive to Trump. Trump does it in a particularly blatant way. But that was something that way back when Taibbi wrote insane clown president and some other articles about what Trump represented. He, he hit that right on the head. He was taking the mask off the ugly reality of u. S Empire. So I don't put that as at his feet. I don't say that what Trump is doing here is necessarily different than the policy you would get if Kamala were president or if Biden had somehow won a second term and we're still president. It would probably be exactly the same policy, you know, just, just not as overt. But that raises the question, what's the way out of this? Because you're not voting your way out of it because both of these parties have the same agenda and it's agenda that doesn't include you. The voters are an annoyance for these people. They come out and they pacify you with promises when they have to and then they just go right back to business as usual. I mean, in a, in a unrelated thing, we just saw that with the Democrats who have been screaming epstein, Epstein, Epstein. And as soon as they got a chance to vote that way, they all protected plasket. Nobody, nobody's, no, nobody's actually going to change course in this system. They're all corrupt, they all hate you and they all want to create a country that only serves their donors and the people of their social strata. This is the problem of our age. How do the people come together to knock these people out of power? As long as they're in power, you're never going to have prosperity for working people in America.

[Keaton Weiss]

Well, I mean, the, you know, the Saudi question is very similar to the Israeli one in that sense. And you know, Trump, excuse me, may not, you know, have, have the biggest or greatest brain of any world leader, but he does, he does understand power and he understand, you know, who, who has power over him. And the Saudis and the Israelis both own our ass. And Trump is, you know, smart enough to, to know that so was Joe Biden. So was Kamala Harris. So are all these people, right? They all know that, that, that, that. That is the imperial arrangement, right? And we are very dependent both on Israel and on the Saudis to maintain our dominance. And so ultimately, there's only so far you could take things. That's why when, you know, Chris Wallace asks him, do you believe him?

[Russell Dobular]

It's got no.

[Keaton Weiss]

I mean, right. You know, it has nothing. I choose to believe him, right? It's, it's. You choose to believe him because you have no choice but to say you believe him, right? Like it doesn't really matter whether you believe him or not. All that matters is, you know, you are willing to accept it's very similar. I mean, you made the mafia comparison. It's very similar in the mob. You know, somebody disappears. Most people know who did it, more or less. But the question is, are they allowed to say it and act on it, or do they have to.

[Russell Dobular]

Don't bring up patsy, right?

[Keaton Weiss]

Or they. Or do they just have to eat it? And that's the similar dynamic here.

[Mike McRae]

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[Russell Dobular]

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[Jimmy Dore]

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[Russell Dobular]

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[Jimmy Dore]

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[Mike McRae]

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[Russell Dobular]

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[Mike McRae]

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[Mohammed bin Salman]

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[Jimmy Dore]

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[Mike McRae]

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