The Jimmy Dore Show

Episode Summary: "Candace Owens CLAPS BACK At Tim Pool & Glenn Beck Over Charlie Kirk!"

Date: December 15, 2025
Host: Jimmy Dore
Featured Guest: Candace Owens

Overview

This explosive episode centers on Candace Owens’ direct response to criticism and accusations by conservative media figures such as Tim Pool and Glenn Beck regarding the death of Charlie Kirk. Jimmy Dore and Owens dissect the immediate reactions to Kirk’s death, the internal conflicts within conservative movements, the role of “Mockingbird media,” the erasure or twisting of Kirk’s legacy, and wider mistrust toward institutional narratives—drawing analogies to historical events, COVID, BLM, and more. The episode also features sharp commentary on the alleged orchestration behind Kirk’s death and riffs on Antifa as a federal “psyop.”

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Initial Reactions to Charlie Kirk’s Death

• Jimmy Dore notes his shock at Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu’s public denial of involvement in Kirk’s death:

  “BB Netanyahu coming out right away and saying, I didn’t kill him. Like that so totally makes you look not guilty.” (02:28)

• Candace Owens describes feeling blindsided by “instant war” from both media and personal connections, noting the speed at which Kirk’s narrative was co-opted by others after his death:

  “I mean, within 48 hours—I eulogize him... Suddenly there was like, Mock Operation Mockingbird saying, this is completely untrue. Charlie never thought about Catholicism. He was Judeo Christian...” (06:00)

• Both discuss how alleged “Zionists” and certain media attempted to use Kirk’s death to consolidate a pro-Israel narrative and stifle questions about the circumstances:

  “Once that happened, I realized...this was going to be a fight against Zionists because they wanted the ghost of Charlie Kirk.” (06:54)

2. Conservative Media Hypocrisy & "Mockingbird" Tactics

• Dore recounts how COVID-19 revealed the susceptibility of ideologically “anti-establishment” media to flip their stance and become “mouthpieces for Big Pharma and the establishment.”

  “People who...never trusted the government...completely flipped during COVID and became mouthpieces for Big Pharma...Did you see this coming?” (04:18)

• Owens remarks on the speed with which those who previously challenged narratives turned on her for asking logical questions:

  “There was so many layers of my shock—the actual event, then the shock at how swiftly people closest to him lied.” (06:00)

• The comparison is drawn to previous media shutdowns of dissent (George Floyd, BLM, COVID):

  “They are using the exact same psychological tactics that they used during BLM to shut down any inquiry about the George Floyd thing...” (11:13)

3. The Legacy of Charlie Kirk – Betrayal and Narrative Wars

• Jimmy cites a relevant Kirk tweet critical of U.S. intelligence and the military-industrial complex, arguing most of Kirk’s supposed allies have betrayed his ethos:

  “All these people who have zero questions about the FBI narrative are the ones who are betraying Charlie Kirk’s ethos, his M.O. and his legacy. And it’s disgusting.” (14:00)

• Discussion on why few in the conservative establishment are willing to question official accounts:

  “They had all the money, they had all the donors...they had all the power, but we had the truth. And truth is the only real power.” (16:32)

4. Suppression, Smears, and the Price of Dissent

• Owens details consequences of her willingness to challenge Zionist and pro-Israel positions:

  “Despite the fact that they had me fired, banned from countries—I can’t get into Australia...I won’t be a Zionist.” (16:29)

• She describes a coordinated campaign by organizations and influencers (including Prager U and Turning Point USA) to silence her, motivated by financial incentives:

  “Actually, I had people inside Prager University send me ... the list of influencers that are on PragerU payroll alone that are being paid to come after me.” (17:28)

• Owens cites direct evidence, like text messages about Kirk's break from Greater Israel projects, to rebut smears:

  “They tell you you’re lying and then you produce them, and then they go, why would you release private messages? ... If you don’t prove them to be liars, then you’re the one who’s lying.” (18:35)

5. Forensic Questions: Was Charlie Kirk's Death Staged?

• Jimmy introduces analysis by Grok (an AI model) of the incident’s video and audio, suggesting the death scene was mechanically staged—not a sniper shooting:

  “The incident appears to be a deliberate onstage staging or hit using a concealed pneumatic device, likely a compressed gas or chemical puncture integrated into Kirk’s mic pack or under his shirt rig, rather than a remote sniper strike.” (21:55)

• Detailed breakdown of video evidence: no ballistic artifacts, blood flow inconsistent with gunshot, and suspicious behavior by Kirk's chief of staff, Mikey McCoy.

  “If it was a .30-06 and it hit his spine, it would have blown it apart...his head would probably be hanging by some neck muscle, maybe if it didn’t just blow it off.” (26:56) “From a .30-06 spine hit—instant decapitation or flail. His head snaps back or drops. ... What did we see? Kirk’s head tilt forward 30 degrees...” (27:51)

• The hosts argue that aggressive efforts to shut down such questions are a sign of cover-up—repeating patterns seen in earlier controversies.

6. Internal Contradictions Among Kirk's Team

• Dissection of conflicting statements about McCoy’s actions after the shooting—immediate phone calls to Erica Kirk versus claims he was taking social footage—not acting as described.

  “He puts his phone to his ear and he begins a conversation...It is exactly 834 milliseconds from the time that you hear the shots...” (41:20, Owens)

• Candace Owens calls for full transparency:

  “We wouldn’t have to make any assumptions if Turning Point USA just...release the call logs.” (43:58)

7. Turning Point, Antifa, and Manufactured Threats

• Show pivots to the Trump Administration’s designation of Antifa as a top domestic threat, with Dore mocking the amorphous, suspiciously leaderless nature of “Antifa” and the FBI’s inability to provide specifics.

  “We have full and total surveillance control over this entire country. Yet you’re unable to tell me where Antifa is based. Is that because they’re based across the hall from you?” (48:55)

• Dore and the panel argue this is a classic “psy-op” meant to keep the left and right divided and justify crackdowns on protest:

  “They’re there to make sure the left, just like with Black Lives Matter...the feds are doing this to keep us fighting each other and our eye off the ball.” (50:56)

8. Satirical Interview: J.D. Vance as Vice President

• (57:25–64:52) Dore hosts a satirical call-in with “J.D. Vance,” lampooning current politics, campaign finance, and religious exclusion in personal life, with comic bits about “affordability hoax,” campaign laws, and Trump's reality-bending power over his supporters.

  “You literally coined the term affordability hoax.” (61:18, Vance) “Like, whenever I see someone go into a voting booth, I’m like, look at that dumb jag off. He thinks he’s doing something in there.” (63:33, Vance)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Candace Owens:

  “I haven’t stopped being shocked, as every week there’s a new—I mean, and the instant fight, like, the instant war they launched on me was bizarre.” (06:00)
  “I do believe that the majority of these people are motivated by money…they had some stake in the ghost of Charlie Kirk.” (16:32)

• Jimmy Dore:

  “It is kind of amazing...the people who never trusted the government … completely flipped during COVID and became mouthpieces for big Pharma.” (04:18)
  “If you’re not allowed to ask these questions, you’re covering this up on purpose. … Or by the wildest chance, they’re the dumbest people on the history of the planet.” (31:51)

• On “Grok”’s forensic analysis:

  “The blood emerges from beneath the shirt seam, not through a visible entry hole. The acoustic pop is co-located with the neck and chest, not delayed from a distant source. No ballistic signature in any clip. … While tragic in outcome, the data screams engineered theater.” (23:01, summarizing Grok)

Timestamps for Crucial Segments

• [02:28] – Dore and Owens express initial shock at the Kirk shooting and Netanyahu’s reaction
• [03:54] – Media hypocrisy and “mockingbird” media critique
• [06:00] – Owens details disbelief and personal grief, “instant war” against her
• [08:40] – Clips analyzing Kirk’s own words and legacy
• [14:00] – Jimmy reads a key anti-intel tweet from Charlie Kirk
• [16:01] – Owens on the consequences of dissent and media suppression
• [21:55] – Introduction and reading of forensic AI (“Grok”) analysis of shooting footage
• [41:20] – Deep dive into the timeline of Mikey McCoy’s actions post-shooting
• [48:55] – FBI grilled about “Antifa threat,” Dore calls out manufactured political psyops
• [57:25–64:52] – Satirical J.D. Vance call-in ('holiday' absurdities, campaign finance, religious exclusion, reality distortion)

Summary Tone & Character

The episode is fiery, irreverent, skeptical, and laced with dark humor. Dore and Owens employ sarcasm and directness, repeatedly mocking officials, establishment media, and institutional narratives. Their tone is conspiratorial, geared toward an audience frustrated with perceived hypocrisy by mainstream and conservative institutions and hungry for unvarnished critique. Attractions include both hard-hitting inquiry and over-the-top satire.

Conclusion for Listeners

For anyone seeking to understand the swirl of accusations after Charlie Kirk’s death—and the internal fracturing on the American right—this episode provides both detailed critique and examples of the rhetorical and forensic questioning that establishment media largely avoids. Candace Owens comes out swinging at her critics, backed by Dore’s signature skepticism about both the “Mockingbird media” and right-wing opportunism. The result is a lively, combative inquiry into truth, power, and the machinery of American politics and media.