Candace Owens Shows SECRET VIDEO Exposing Erika Kirk's Master Plan! w/ Stew Peters

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The Jimmy Dore Show

Episode: Candace Owens Shows SECRET VIDEO Exposing Erika Kirk's Master Plan! w/ Stew Peters

Date: January 30, 2026
Host: Jimmy Dore
Guests: Stew Peters, Candace Owens (clips), Whistleblower “Matthew Tucciaroni”

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Episode Overview

This explosive and controversial episode dives into the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, interrogating the power shifts inside Turning Point USA (TPUSA). Jimmy Dore and his guest, Stew Peters, dissect insider leaks, secret recordings, the role of Erika Kirk (Charlie’s widow) in the organization's direction, and the underlying conspiracies tying TPUSA’s leadership and direction to larger geopolitical agendas, particularly through a Zionist lens. The episode amplifies accusations, whistleblower insights, and challenges the narratives around Charlie Kirk’s death, internal company culture, and financial as well as ideological motives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Whistleblower Testimony – Erika Kirk’s "Takeover"

• Matthew Tucciaroni (whistleblower/former TPUSA staffer, via Stew Peters’ previous interview):
  • Erika Kirk, previously a behind-the-scenes "trad wife," unexpectedly began showing up at high-level TPUSA events months before Charlie’s death, marking a distinct power shift.
  • Quote: "That to me, signified the change in the takeover right there." [01:51]
  • An internal video shows Erika presiding over a staff meeting, invoking God’s will in an unusually performative, almost anointed fashion, standing on a coffee table “on a pedestal.”
• Reaction: This shift struck insiders as abnormal; Erika was inserting herself into decision-making and leadership well before becoming CEO.
• Timestamps: [00:41]–[02:35]

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2. Analysis of Leaked Videos and Internal Culture

• Erika Kirk’s Messaging: Her public and private communications are described as jarring: focusing on organizational success and metrics immediately after her husband’s public assassination.
  • Video of Funeral Call: Erika refers to organizing “the event of the century”—her husband’s funeral—as a logistical and financial triumph.
  • Quote (Erika): "The fact that we were able to pull off an event of a century, like, it’s just insane. We had over 275,000 people that attended ..." [31:11–32:58]
  • Reaction (Candace Owens): "It is the general tone that is off-putting. We are not even two weeks after watching your husband be assassinated. We're talking about numbers and metrics..." [39:02]
  • Both Dore and Peters underscore the “inhuman” or “performative” qualities of Erika’s demeanor and priorities post-tragedy.
• Spy/Control Allegation: Data from the funeral was allegedly geofenced—everyone who attended was logged for future TPUSA fundraising and propaganda outreach.
  • Quote (Stu Peters): "He [Andrew Colvitt] came right out and said that ... If you go to these places, they get your data, they get your phone number, your IP, your email address..." [33:20]
• Timestamps: [31:11]–[35:38]

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3. Power Struggles & Zionist Influence

• Charlie Kirk’s Shift: Insiders and whistleblowers detail that Kirk was trying to distance TPUSA from hardline Zionist influences, declining massive donations, and questioning U.S. foreign policy.
  • At one point, Kirk reportedly rejected a $100+ million offer from Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu aimed at keeping TPUSA in the Zionist fold.
  • Texts between TPUSA brass showed deep concern Kirk would “go ballistic on Trump over wars and over Epstein” and withdraw support for Israel and expansionist military engagements.
  • Quote (Stu Peters): "Charlie Kirk was standing in front of millions of college-age, military-aged young men ... He probably would have been the president of this country someday ..." [13:56]
  • Quote (Stu Peters): "Charlie Kirk said, no, that’s not enough. No, I don’t have a price tag. No, that’s not enough." [12:20]
• Resulting Conspiracy Allegation: Dore and Peters suggest Kirk’s non-compliance was the primary motive behind his assassination and the subsequent power consolidation by Zionist-aligned TPUSA figures (Erika Kirk, Tyler Boyer, Mikey McCoy).
• Timestamps: [12:00]–[21:00]; [47:41]–[51:00]

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4. Allegations of Blackmail, Internal Corruption, and Cult-Like Control

• Blackmail Theory: Stew Peters alleges that closeted homosexuality at the top ranks of TPUSA is used for blackmail and leverage, fitting a broader pattern of “compromised” leadership in American institutions.
  • Quote (Peters): "100%. It makes them 100% controllable. They work as the front-facing people ... and they’re easily controlled because they’re easily blackmailed." [22:36]
• NDAs and Litigiousness: Staff are reportedly forced to sign one-year contracts with decade-long NDAs, an unusually restrictive setup echoing cult-like control patterns.
  • Quote: "Have you ever heard of that before? I got a one year contract, but a ten-year NDA?" [25:38]
• Culture of Firing: Post-funeral, 40 staffers were allegedly fired in ambush sessions, further underscoring instability and speculation about internal purges.
• Timestamps: [21:04]–[27:14]; [37:08]–[37:47]

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5. The Erika Kirk Persona: Performativity & Machiavellian Allegations

• Public Grieving as PR: Both Dore and Peters, joined by Candace Owens’ analysis, contend that Erika’s focus on PR, fundraising, and optics—rather than grief—points to foreknowledge or at minimum, profound self-interest.
  • Quote (Dore): "She’s making WWE entrances like she’s Linda McMahon ... with the fake tears and everything." [34:58]
  • Quote (Peters): "I am not convinced that Erika Kirk did not have foreknowledge ... This looks like a woman who had foreknowledge." [45:54]
• Projection Accusations: The hosts argue TPUSA deflects criticism onto others (Candace Owens, whistleblowers) by accusing them of grifting and exploitation while allegedly engaging in exactly that.
  • Quote (Dore): "That’s called projection. Carl Jung teaches us that’s projection. They're the ones who are actually rolling in the dough after Charlie's death..." [41:43]
• Timestamps: [31:34]–[43:14]; Speculation and analysis threads throughout.

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6. Political and Military Stakes

• TPUSA as Recruitment Engine: With Kirk gone, Dore and Peters claim TPUSA’s mission resumes as a “selling machine” to recruit youth into endless wars for American and Israeli interests.
  • Quote (Peters): "Now that this is back on the table, TPUSA is putting chapters in high schools all over the country ... to get themselves signed up to go overseas and die for the very machine that Charlie was standing against." [16:15]
  • Broader critique of neoconservative military expansion, Trump’s influence, and the potential for mass conscription for foreign wars—latent TPUSA functions.
• Timestamps: [12:00]–[16:15]; [55:36]–[58:48]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Erika Kirk’s funeral call:
  "The fact that we were able to pull off an event of a century..." [31:11]
• Candace Owens, on Erika’s tone:
  "It's the general tone that is off-putting ... We're talking about numbers and metrics that have been hit and my husband's dead. Not to be morbid—that is a sentence that ... that's moving pretty quickly to the acceptance phase." [39:02]
• Stew Peters, on Kirk’s refusal of Zionist money:
  "Charlie Kirk said, no, that’s not enough. No, I don’t have a price tag. No, that’s not enough." [12:20]
• Stew Peters, blackmail theory:
  "100%. It makes them 100% controllable... I find it concerning and I find it relevant that you have these kind of closeted homosexuals ... that they use that position of authority to dominate younger, more naive boys." [22:36]
• Jimmy Dore, on Erika’s rapid leadership transition:
  "You cannot be a traditional wife and mother and leave your kids. Where are these kids? Who's taking care of these kids?" [06:30]
• Stew Peters, summing up the broader stakes:
  "That ladder goes all the way to the Oval Office ... I think that Trump personally ... this goes to him, and this goes to the people that Trump brought to Charlie Kirk." [51:00]
• Jimmy Dore, describing the situation:
  "Their million-million, multimillion-dollar grift was going to go away because Charlie was going to divorce TPUSA from the Zionist project ..." [50:00]

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Important Timestamps

• Erika Kirk’s Staff Meeting Video: [03:17]; Replayed at [11:10]
• Funeral "Event of the Century" Clip & Discussion: [31:11], [34:13], [34:39], [40:00]
• On Blackmail & Internal Control: [22:36]–[27:14]
• Zionist Funding and Kirk's Resistance: [12:00]–[16:15], [47:41]–[51:00]
• Speculation on Erika Kirk’s Foreknowledge: [45:54]

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Tone & Language

• Profane, irreverent, and highly conjectural—both Dore and Peters lean into skepticism, speculation, and aggressive criticism, particularly toward Erika Kirk and the powerbrokers of TPUSA.
• Candace Owens, when featured, adopts a measured but pointedly incredulous tone about Erika’s posturing.
• The episode’s overall mood is conspiratorial, provocative, and deliberately challenging of mainstream and even “insider” right-wing narratives.

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For Newcomers: Takeaways

• This episode is an unvarnished, opinionated take raising serious, if deeply contested, questions about the TPUSA leadership transition post-Charlie Kirk and the entanglement between American political activism, neoconservative militarism, Zionism, and internal corruption.
• The evidence presented is circumstantial, based largely on leaked videos, whistleblower testimony, and analysis of behavior and internal culture.
• Listeners should approach the episode as a document of suspicion and anti-establishment critique, not as confirmed investigative journalism.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, come see me live on tour February 20th in Lansing, Michigan. February 21st in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Go to Jimmy Dore.com for a link for tickets.

[Stu Peters]

Establishment media sucks. All gas lighting, so good luck. Bullshit we can't afford why he's fomenting this watch and see as his jack golf come medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on. It's the chimney door.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let me get into this. So you were talking to this whistleblower on your show and Matthew. What's his last name? Mike. I'm playing Tucciaroni.

[Stu Peters]

Matthew Tucciarone.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. And you were taught. You were asking him when did you. Because he was an insider at TP USA for a while. He worked on their get out the vote campaign, and he's very familiar with all these people. And.

[Stu Peters]

Yeah, so specifically, he worked with the TP action side of everything, which is supposed to be like their political arm of Turning Point.

[Jimmy Dore]

And you asked him about when she started to insert herself into TP USA events.

[Stu Peters]

Any rumors about Erica Kirk's kind of administrative involvement in the months leading up to Charlie's death. Was she kind of inserting herself more frequently?

[Whistleblower/Insider]

Yeah, she was inserting herself more frequently beforehand. You know, she was just a trad wife. I got invited to the Andy Biggs gubernatorial race launch because Turning Point is backing Andy Biggs. Andy Biggs is running for governor in Arizona right now. They invited a lot of the field reps who chased the vote to this event in Scottsdale. This is when. And this is in June. I want to say right after Memorial Day weekend, early June.

[Candace Owens]

This.

[Whistleblower/Insider]

This is when Erica made her big debut for at least us in Arizona. You know, she got on stage and she said, you know, I typically don't do this, but this is for my husband. I'm usually the stay at home mom. You know, guys, I'm the trad wife, blah, blah, blah. But this is for Andy. This is for our state. I must make an appearance and just really support my husband. And I was looking at my friends, I'm like, I've never seen her come out like this before. That to me, signified the change in the takeover right there.

[Stu Peters]

And so now was weird. That was out of place. That was abnormal.

[Whistleblower/Insider]

That was very abnormal.

[Stu Peters]

And so now, did it catch anybody else's attention, or were you the only one fixated on this?

[Whistleblower/Insider]

I was the only one pretty much fixated on this. But I do look back, and I have talked to my friend who's on the inside, no longer on the inside, as of her post on X recently. I would say she caught on as well. That's why she sent that video of Erica and Mikey, you know, at that staff meeting at amfos, because we see there's. There's smart people in Turning Point, and then there's really not so smart people.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so here's the video he's referring to. So let's get to that, and then I'll get you to weigh in on this, Stu.

[Stu Peters]

Yeah, we have that video. I actually want to roll that again here real quick. Let's roll this Erica Kirk video. We can't see this one enough.

[Erica Kirk]

I really like the staff meeting because Charlie had to fly back to Palm beach with the President, and it's crazy to look back and you just kind of see the Lord kind of knitting his own beautiful image that sometimes we just don't always see. But we're blessed to be here for the second staff meeting.

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I am.

[Stu Peters]

Okay, so that video shows Erica.

[Jimmy Dore]

So tell me, what does that video show to you, Stu?

[Stu Peters]

I mean, she's literally on a pedestal. The only thing missing here is the big palm leaves and the bowl of grapes that these people are supposed to feed her. She is literally standing on top of a coffee table, elevating herself above everybody, holding that microphone, and just smiling ear to ear. And what I hate about that whole exchange, other than the fact that, you know, all these people at Turning Point USA are latent closeted homosexuals, and, you know, whatever somebody wants to do, that's on them. But to be out here pretending that you're something different. And you could totally tell Mikey McCoy there. I mean, nobody has gestures like that. This guy, Matthew Tucciaroni, is an openly gay guy. And, you know, he was telling me in conversation off the air leading up to our interview, he's like, I don't even behave like this. I don't flail my arms around and make these gestures. I mean, these people are just the flamers. But for him to invoke God into all of this and say all of this is because of God, Charlie's death is just a part of God's plan for all of us to be able to be here in this spot at this America Fest, to have all these people, to have all of this money, to have all of these blessings, to have all of this attention and to have you leading us again. And at the beginning of that, it was kind of cut off. But what he was referring to there is two years previous to that, Charlie Kirk unexpectedly had to go, like, travel with the President or Something. And so he wasn't in these preparatory preparation type planning meetings for America Fest that year. And he's like, kind of reliving that. And he's saying, just like, then it's just so great to have you leading us. And his body gestures at the end of that. I know that language. I know body language very well. I was a bounty hunter for 15 years. I know when you're lying. I know when you're putting on a show. I know when you're nervous. I know when your hands are probably clammy. And this guy is so nervous because if you don't comply here, if you don't go along, if you don't follow this very careful plan that has been set forth by Erica and by her handlers, by her paymasters, by her associates, her affiliates that she brags and boasts about having relationships with. They'll kill you. They will kill you. And they proved that on September 10th. But the way that he. The way that he said, and we're just so happy, and he kind of like jerked his body, that is a very nervous reaction. I've seen it. It's textbook. This guy literally fears for his life, but he invokes God. She's putting herself on this pedestal and that's all her. Somebody pushed that thing over there. She climbed up on that thing and she elevated herself. It's disgusting, the whole thing.

[Jimmy Dore]

So when they say God's plan, they really mean their own plan because of course they do. Right.

[Stu Peters]

And when she says, you know, earth shattering event or, you know, once in a lifetime, whatever, she. How did she describe once in a century? Yeah, I mean, I want to know what event she's actually talking about. Is it all encompassing? Is it to arrive at this point that this big event had to take place? And so now here it is. And I've made, you know, a lot of statements early on about what I think TPUSA always has been. And after talking to Matthew Tucciaroni and we have like, I think we're at like eight right now, over a half a dozen, almost ten insiders that are currently there right now who are confidentially informing us. So I know that Candace has a lot more of them too. And I think there's going to be a lot more people that want to come out because the behavior that they're seeing, and then you go and fire 40 people. I will say this. From what Matthew Tucciaroni said, that he was the only one that noticed that she was kind of putting herself on the scene. The way that he answered the question. Wasn't really what I was getting at, and I didn't keep hammering it because there were other things to get to. But we have heard from several insiders that in the months before Charlie was executed, she was inserting herself managerially as more of a CEO type of role very early on. And she was asserting herself, and she was making decisions for this company, you know, in the absence of Charlie. And she was saying things like, don't worry about what he says. He will agree with this. People were asking, does he know about this? And she was saying, no, he doesn't, but that's none of his business. I've got this. I'm going to take care of this. So from a managerial operations perspective, Erica Kirk, going back at least two months prior to Charlie Kirk's assassination, was asserting her kind of authority around the Turning Point USA infrastructure, administratively kind of setting up this hierarchy that she was going to be transitioning into this role. And I like the way that you pointed this out. They keep wanting to say, trad wife, trad wife, tradwife grieving widow, all this stuff. You cannot be a traditional wife and mother and leave your kids. Where are these kids? Who's taking care of these kids? She was on with Hannity, and she was thanking her TPUSA family. I think that's the first time that she said that. And everybody was like, what? And she's like, yeah, I have to just thank you and Ainsley. So are you telling me that Sean Hannity and Ainsley Earhart are taking care of the Kirk kids? Are they with Charlie's parents? People genuinely want to know. And so when people are saying, well, that's. That's private information nobody wants. It's for their safety. Okay, fine, I don't want to know their geographical location. But they made this public. You know, she didn't go and weep in a corner and stay behind closed doors and go and grieve. She didn't want privacy. She didn't want to stay private. She elected to the day after Charlie was dead. His body probably wasn't even cold yet. It was still probably flying around with the Vice President of the United States on Air Force Two before an autopsy could be performed, by the way. And she inserted herself into the public. And so she made all this public. And then just by her fake alibi from the wrong day that she delivered to some random YouTuber rather than just giving it to Candace. And she has. I mean, she has contact information with Candace. I don't know why she would do it. That way. But it's. It's like, for the wrong date, and there's the kids with the. You know. And so she's inserting the idea that she's constantly with these kids, and it's just a lie. She's not. And by the way, that kid wasn't Charlie's kid, because that kid looked like 4 or 5 years old, and his kid would be under 2 years old. So the whole thing is bizarre. But that video is. It's shocking. Again, it's shocking to see for a normal human being, especially if you are a Christian, because tpusa, and I think that that's really relevant here. Turning Point has always presented itself as a Christian organization. This is not Christian behavior. Lying is not Christian behavior. Being promiscuous is not Christian behavior. Wearing leather pants and groping the president and groping the vice president and rubbing their hair. This is not Christian behavior. None of this is Christian behavior. And so I just think that that should punch every Christian in the face and they should wake up to this. They should say, you know what? I'm going to take the blinders off. Something is amiss here. This isn't right.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. So let me play that video again.

[Erica Kirk]

Because Charlie had to fly back to Palm beach with the president, and it's crazy to look back and you just kind of see the Lord kind of knitting his own beautiful image that sometimes we just don't always see. But we're blessed to be here. For the second staff meeting at Anchor Station, there was.

[Stu Peters]

Okay, so.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's. So that is. Is that backstage at Amfest? Is that what that is?

[Stu Peters]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

And he's. And they're all just like, this is the Lord. The Lord did this. Now she's the head of CE and CEO of TP usa. We can be openly Zionist again because Charlie Kirk was turning against Israel. He not turned. He had turned. He had. He had stated plainly after they tried to do the intervention in the Hamptons on him, where they had all the way.

[Stu Peters]

Mikey McCoy was there. And I think that that's something that we should always keep our foot on the gas with that. With that is. Is knowing that Mikey McCoy is the one who I believe took him there. Maybe Erica did. I don't know. I can't say that for sure. So I don't want to speculate. But he was there. And this is somebody that Charlie Kirk perceived as one of his best friends, if not his best friend.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Stu Peters]

And he was there at the Hamptons in this struggle session. It was a pressure campaign. To the extent that it was confirmed by Candace Owens, who was in that four and a half hour sit down with Erica Kirk, that it was at that time that Benjamin Netanyahu, the sitting Prime Minister of Israel, called and offered over 100 million, 140, 150, whatever it was, over $100 million to a company that previous to that was operating on $140 million annual budget. And Charlie Kirk said, no, that's not enough. No, I don't have a price tag. No, that's not enough. And when you look at the letter that Charlie Kirk wrote to Benjamin Netanyahu, a lot of people say, well, yeah, look at here. He's trying to tell Benjamin Netanyahu how to propagandize Americans further into, you know, getting on the pro Israel, pro Zionist train. No, no, no, no, that's not what that was. You know, Andrew Colvitt lied about talking to a surgeon about Charlie Kirk's Superman, like neck bones of steel. I don't know about that, but he certainly had balls of steel. This guy wrote a letter to the Prime Minister who sat before Congress and lied about weapons of mass destruction and incubator babies that caused the deaths of thousands of Americans and spent billions, hundreds of billions of dollars in Iraq, in Afghanistan and chasing down the Taliban and Al Qaeda while we taught the importance of transgenderism to Pashtun tribesmen and looked the other way while warlords raped little boys. You know, I mean, so for him to write that letter to that guy, the guy that's responsible for all of that death and for all of these wars and for giving Americans and the American government moreover, the pretext to hype up Americans to cheer this on. And that's what turning point was. It always was that machine. It was the machine that would shill for that fighting force to go into these wars that don't benefit America, they don't benefit our national security or certainly our economic interests. And I think Charlie realized, yeah, no, no, I don't want to do this. We have also, and I don't know if your audience is aware of this, we also have a source who's provided us with screenshots of text messages that were exchanged. They might be signal. Actually, I'm not going to. They're either text or signal messages between Tyler Boyer and other like top ranking TPUSA brass. And this was before Charlie was dead. And these messages were that they were showing tremendous concern. The word was concern, that Charlie Kirk was about to, quote, go ballistic on Trump over wars and over Epstein. Now we know that Charlie Kirk was shouted down in one way or another by President Trump when he pushed back on Trump about that 12 day war with Iran or that there was going to be some sort of a military strike with Iran. And then what happened immediately after Charlie was gone, immediately it went into hype up Americans on war. We're going into Venezuela, we want Mexico, we want Cuba, we want Colombia, we want Greenland. We just want to expand America to everywhere and turn into this like globalist borderless society with a one world government. And of course all the neocons love this. They love this, they love this agenda, this foreign policy agenda, this military agenda that Trump is exacting. And this was the very thing that Charlie Kirk was going to stand against. And when you consider the fact that Charlie Kirk was standing in front of millions of college age military aged young men who hanged on every word that he said. He had influence like nobody else. He probably would have been the president of this country someday, given a fair election, if people were to actually vote. I would say that he probably would have been the president someday. He had a ton of influence, but especially with a young group of American men that would mobilize and they would go and they would enlist and they would also follow him when he left the pro Israel cause as he said that he was going to be forced to do and as he said that these people would kill him in the now infamous Harrison Smith tweet where he said, I have it on good authority that Charlie thinks that Israel will kill him if, if he turns against them. And then we have rumors about the night before. We have, you know, text messages that he was sending the night before. Well, now what do you have? You have Turning Point back in its original and really supercharged on steroids, I guess, really its mission, its function, which is to act as the selling machine to get young American men excited about putting on a uniform and going and fighting in every corner of the world. They're going to need a lot of blood for all these wars. Where do you think they're going to get that from? These people don't go fight and die for themselves. They, they have, they have basically conscripted us into their military for decades now. And so now that this is back on the table, TPUSA is putting chapters in high schools all over the country so they can leave their Turning Point event and go out into the lobby of their high school right up to the Marine Corps or Army or Navy or Air Force or Space force recruiting table and get themselves signed up to go overseas and die for the Very machine that Charlie was standing against. $150 million wouldn't do it for him. The pressure campaign, the threats, even knowing that he was going to die was not enough to stop him from staring directly into the eyes of the beast and like a G biting back. And that's why, you know, look, I was one of Charlie Kirk's biggest detractors while he was alive, I will say that. And it was because of this, you know, pro Israel, pro Zionist, like kind of, you know, neocon, never ending unrelenting support for Donald Trump no matter what he did. But look, he said he was going to, quote, go ballistic. He was distancing himself from that. He had an up close and personal look. He was an insider. He was. He hung out with the President all the time. He was best friends with Don Jr. When Don Jr. Could select one person to go fishing in Iceland or whatever, he chose Charlie Kirk. And it was that long lasting friendship. And obviously all of the donor class that goes along with Trump wherever he goes, you know, that friendship was the conduit to all of that money. And then you have Tyler Boyer, who made that arrangement, that introduction of Erica Franzfe to, you know, to Charlie, who would soon be Erica Kirk. The Romanian orphanages, the Ukrainian orphanages. It's just all so much. All of this was by design. The people that were around Charlie Kirk were very carefully selected and put around him. And when he looked around at the end, I got to believe that he realized I'm in a den of vipers and there's no way out. I mean, that has to be. That has to be one of the things that shakes me the most. And it's all of these people. I've said it a lot of times. He was betrayed by the people closest.

[Jimmy Dore]

To him, no doubt about it. And he's still being betrayed because they can't stop lying about his assassination and everything surrounding it. They even lie about his text messages or what was said at that Hamptons meeting. They lie about everything. They lie about having a secret conversation with the surgeon who took care of Charlie when he was assassinated. That didn't happen. They just make stuff up. I just thought.

[Stu Peters]

They're also lying about not being on Fort Huachuca, by the way.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. Of course they're lying about Fort W. She was there.

[Stu Peters]

She was there. I know she was there. She was there on the 8th with Cabot Phillips, two days before Charlie died. She was there. The can of wooden and sweets. I know this. She was there. That's why we don't have an alibi. We have one for the ninth with fake kids or somebody else's kids entirely.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right. We don't have.

[Stu Peters]

She was there, and Brian Harpel was there the next day on the 9th, the day before he was assassinated.

[Jimmy Dore]

Now, Cabot, you know that guy has.

[Stu Peters]

A security company 11 minutes from the gates on Fort Huachuca.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Yes. And the fact that anybody would ever hire Brian Harpell to do the security again when he can't manage to get somebody to look at the roofs. No one's watching the roof. A guy got up there. He was up there for at least a couple of minutes because he had to change his clothes. He had to take a gun out of his backpack or a long gun and put it together. Had to get a screwdriver out. Had to put it together. Had to put the scobot. Had to line up the shot. He had to take the shot. Then he had to take the rifle apart again, then have to stuff it in his backpack or wherever he puts it.

[Stu Peters]

Oh, all right. Well, case closed. I believe all that and nobody saw him. That's totally possible. I just can't believe that there are people with big platforms on the Internet that this was the most prolific assassination of my lifetime. I mean, I wasn't alive when JFK was took, but of my lifetime and of these people as well. It's the biggest assassination of our lifetime. And they are just accepting this. Like, are we surrounded by people with sub 50 IQs?

[Jimmy Dore]

No, you're surrounded by.

[Stu Peters]

You could look at that fairytale and say, yep, I believe that Fed Slope.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, we're surrounded by people who are being paid off because we know that the money train is all around this right now. And so when you see people flipping 180 degrees, you know that there's some chicanery going on there. It's not an honest opinion. And so I've seen that in many social influencers, big time. And they're flipping. So they're compromised with either just the way Mossad compromises people with blackmail, or they're compromised with money, the way Benjamin Netanyahu tried to compromise Charlie. Or both. Or money and blackmail. But they're compromised. And so it's. And it's obvious to me. But I wanted to ask you one thing before we move on to the next segment. When you say that the people who are working at TP USA are closeted homosexuals, what is the significance of that? Because I know Candace Owens when she's doing her deep dive into the military connections to Charlie Kirk's assassination. She keeps bumping up to these people who are high up in the military, who are either PDF files or, or gay. And she says her assertion is that these people rise to the top and they're the ones who are easily controlled because they're easily blackmailed. And is that what you're saying when you, when you point out that there's a lot of people at TP USA are closeted homosexuals? I Are you saying that? Because that makes them easily blackmailed?

[Stu Peters]

100%. It makes them 100% controllable. They work as the front facing people or administrative people or high ranking people at a Christian organization. And if you ask real Christians about homosexuality, they will tell you, well, God blew up two whole cities over that Sodom and Gomorrah. I mean, he. It's frowned upon. So first of all, there's that. Second of all, a lot of these people have beards. They have fake wives or they have wives, they have children. They're living this like kind of heterosexual presented wife lifestyle. And in fact, they're not. So, yeah, they're easily controllable. They're easily manipulated and blackmailed. And then also I find it concerning and I find it relevant that you have these kind of closeted homosexuals who, by the way, I don't know if Matthew Tucciaroni said this on the air or not, but he definitely told me this privately. And because I'm not gay, I wouldn't know this, but what he said was it's the closeted homosexuals that you have to worry about around younger people. And with that being said, I find it very concerning that these people, especially with the allegations that have been made about Tyler Boyer and others that have positions of authority, that they use that position of authority to dominate younger, more naive boys. And I find it a little bit alarming that this organization, with all of this going on at the top, is going into these high schools and having all of this contact with young boys, especially after knowing that Erica Kirk was like texting directly with somebody who was a minor. And I believe that this person's parent got a hold of that message. There was something recently about that. And so these people are having direct contact, you know, with these people. And you know, I've seen this too many times. I've covered these stories now for five years, Jimmy. I know how these people work and I know the previous associations. I know about Erica Kirk's nonprofit in Romania. She was 17 years old, 17 years old. And she's running a nonprofit that deals with orphans in one of the biggest hotbeds on Traffic Earth. For all of these PDF files to.

[Jimmy Dore]

Operate, it was like ground zero for trafficking.

[Stu Peters]

Yeah, and the same with Ukraine, where Tyler Boyer brings his own Eastern European orphanage connections. All of this stuff is just insane. But yeah, I mean, as far as like the closeted homosexuality is concerned. And I think that that's why they got rid of Tucciaroni, because he was out. He's not closeted, he's just an openly gay guy. They don't have anything on him. And also, it wasn't just him, but he confirmed this. There were several insiders that have told me that these people, when they get hired, they get hired into these low paying or oftentimes not paying, no pay jobs and they're given one year contracts and they all have to sign 10 year NDAs. Have you ever heard of that before? I got a one year contract, but a ten year NDA? I've heard this now from six different sources inside of Turning Point. I'm trying to get my hands on one of these NDAs. Nobody wants to give me one because these people are very litigious. It would seem they're going to go after Candace or going after wolves in finance. I haven't had. I don't check my mail though, so maybe that's why I haven't got my letter yet. But.

[Jimmy Dore]

But of course we're not doing the old smear that if you're gay, you're a pedophile. That's not what we're doing. We're saying.

[Stu Peters]

I'm not saying that at all. No, I'm not, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that Matthew Tucciaroni. I'm going off what I've been told by a gay guy and what he's saying is that closeted homosexuals have a higher likelihood to be a predator in that way.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay.

[Stu Peters]

And so it's concerning. But I think, moreover, even if none of that is going on, let's just say, yeah, no, they're not doing that with kids, okay? It's a Christian organization. They're in the closet, they're lying, they're living a fake lifestyle. If they're outed, they lose everything. They lose their position at Turning Point because they're no longer useful to Erica Kirk, who's proven to everybody that she'll either fire you or kill you if you're no longer useful to her. They'll lose their family, they'll lose their marriage because that was fake. Because I don't know a whole lot of wives that are sticking around with a guy when she knows that he's been sticking himself elsewhere. You know, and the kids and the custody battles and the houses and the refinances, you know, or the repossessions and the foreclosures. I can just see all of that happening to these people. And then also too, they're being told that and they're being reminded of that over and over again. We have this on you. We have this on you. And so, yeah, I mean, that's really concerning, especially for people that are dealing with an organization that I would estimate is probably valued at about a billion dollars now.

[Jimmy Dore]

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[Jimmy Dore]

That's National Debt Relief.com welcome back to the show. I've got special guest with us, Stu Peters. He's a media personality, host of the Stu Peters Show, a program that discusses political and cultural issues predominantly from a traditionally right wing perspective. He previously worked as a rapper and bounty hunting hunter before launching his podcast in 2020 which focuses on skepticism towards government institutions, public health policies and Global events. Welcome to the show. Stu Peters. Hey, Stu, how are you?

[Stu Peters]

Thanks a lot. I'm really excited to be here, actually. Where'd you get that bio from?

[Jimmy Dore]

I don't know. Is that an old bio or is that not good one?

[Stu Peters]

Yeah, I don't know. It's just interesting. It's. It's fine. I mean, all of it is true. I kind of miss bounty hunting, but, you know, I mean, looking at Minneapolis right now, can you imagine?

[Jimmy Dore]

No, I wanted to bring you on because you had a whistleblower from inside TP USA on your show last night who I also talk to. But first I wanted to, because you're a lot of people I'm talking to. Like I was talking with Jake, who was the guy. Shields. Jake Shields yesterday. And he said, I'm not really into looking into TP usa. And so there's not a lot of people doing this. You're one of them. And so I wanted to bring you on a. To talk about what your whistleblower guest revealed last night. But first, I wanted to. Candace Owens revealed this and I wanted to get your take on it. When Erica Kirk took over as CEO. Now no longer a traditional Christian wife, she's not a tradition. She's now leaving her family, her fatherless children to go run a huge corporation with over $250 million in assets just since September. So when she left to take over CEO and be a full CEO of a big company outside of her house, she had a phone call with everybody at TP usa and it got recorded and it got leaked. And I just want to play this for you and then get your reaction, because my reaction was stunned, but let's play it.

[Candace Owens]

I do want to remind you that Charlie has not been dead for two weeks. That's where you have to go back to two. Not even two weeks after Charlie was publicly assassinated. The obvious point of this call to set this up is to introduce Erica. She's the. She's a new leader. Not even introducing. She's just heading up this call. But obviously she's going to be at the helm of this, so they're getting to know her. So let's take a listen.

[Erica Kirk (voice on call)]

Hi, everybody. I still love all these emoji zoom things. Wow. I don't even know where to begin. The fact that we were able to pull off an event of a century, like, it's just insane. We had now just.

[Jimmy Dore]

I know people get upset when I stop and start videos, but I just want to stop it there for a second and just remind people what she's talking about as the event of the century is her husband's funeral.

[Stu Peters]

Oh, okay. I thought that she was talking about what got him there.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, that's. She's dying. Right? That would be.

[Stu Peters]

It might have been another event that she had a part in planning.

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[Stu Peters]

Event of the century.

[Jimmy Dore]

I would say his assassination so far would be.

[Stu Peters]

I mean, just so far. Listening to that, does that sound like a woman who just lost her husband in an unexpected and shocking way? In a prolific assassination, does that sound like the voice of a woman? I mean, I would hope that somebody who loves me, my mom or my kid's mom or whatever would be like in the fetal position at least for 20 minutes and, you know, be shocked. But this woman is excited about everything. She's everywhere I see her. She's just really excited.

[Jimmy Dore]

And she's very excited on this call. So let's go back to this call now. She's just remember she's referring to her husband's memorial funeral as the event of the century. And she's. You know, it's like, you know, when you're talking to somebody over the phone, you can tell they're smiling. It's the same thing here. You can tell she's smiling as she's talking.

[Stu Peters]

100%. Yes.

[Jimmy Dore]

But here she. Here she is. She. Let's get back to this. So now she just said it was the event of the century, her husband's funeral.

[Erica Kirk (voice on call)]

And she's thanking everybody, over 275,000 people that attended. And stadium overflow, Westgate. Insane, you guys. And then it's just.

[Jimmy Dore]

I was just to say we did it. She sounds like a high school prom chair.

[Stu Peters]

They know that they had 275,000 people there because immediately after that, Andrew Colvitt was super excited about all of the people that Laurie Frantz v. Erica's mom was able to geofence. He came right out and said that. Yeah, well, we know how many people were there because we geofenced all of them. And for those people who don't know what geofencing is, it's spying. So they know that your device is in a certain area. A TPUSA connected event like this memorial, a TPUSA connected church like the Calvary Chapel. And if you go to these places, they get your data, they get your phone number, your ip, your email address, they get all of that. And pretty soon you're getting fundraising text messages and you're getting, you know, pro Israel Zionist propaganda just pummeled in front of you all day long. So they were Spying on these people. It's just unbelievable.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, let's keep going.

[Erica Kirk (voice on call)]

Have. Was it 100 million? We had thousands that were registered to vote. I think we're at like over 200,000 for merch sales. Don't quote me on that, because I think it just keeps bumping up like crazy. But I just wanted to say a huge, huge, huge thank you to the events team, the development team, the graphic design team, the production team.

[Jimmy Dore]

She's talking about it like they just put on a Christmas spectacular with Bob Hope or something.

[Stu Peters]

And what they did, I mean, you saw the fireworks, the pyrotechnics. Can you imagine what the fight, the sparklers bill was for that?

[Jimmy Dore]

I can't even. Just, just the bill for the glitter on her pantsuit alone would be. She would.

[Stu Peters]

She's making WWE entrances like she's Linda McMahon that's about to give somebody the smackdown with the fake tears and everything. You remember seeing that, right? She was at the bottom of the stairway and she was coming up the stairs to the front to the stage and she was putting fake tears in her eyes. Well, that's somebody who we are told just lost her husband in a shocking way.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, that's the. That's definitely the speculation that she was putting menthol in her eyes. That would make her eyes tear up right before she went on. That's the speculation. I can't. Nobody can, you know, verify that for sure, but that's what a lot of people have said. That is exactly what that looked like. So, yeah, let's. Here we go.

[Erica Kirk (voice on call)]

Just phenomenal.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, by the way she's talking about, it's phenomenal. His funeral was phenomenal. And it's phenomenal that they raised $250,000 off of Mertz or $200,000 off of Mertz sales, meaning memorial T shirts for Charlie. That kind of.

[Stu Peters]

Yeah, Freedom shirt. It also probably means if you stop to get your picture taken, you know, at Amfest. Well, we know what they did there. They brought the murder scene to America Fest.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Stu Peters]

Which she would have had to have approved. Right. I mean, she's the CEO, so she.

[Jimmy Dore]

Here she is thanking everybody for what a great success, financial success that TP USA is experiencing right now after Charlie's death.

[Erica Kirk (voice on call)]

Incredible work leading into the memorial. And honestly, a lot of this staff that worked on the memorial, they had 20 hour days for a week during the time of us grieving the loss of my husband. And honestly, I know several staff that didn't even sleep. Again, you guys are breathing angels. I don't care if any of you.

[Jimmy Dore]

So, so I, I really, the death.

[Stu Peters]

Of her husband was kind of a short, like kind of glossed over, wasn't it?

[Jimmy Dore]

Very, very much. And those, those, those, a lot of those employees that she's thanking from the bottom of her heart for working 80 hour weeks up until the memorial. They just went and fired 40 of them.

[Stu Peters]

Yep, they're gone. 40 of them are gone.

[Jimmy Dore]

They didn't.

[Stu Peters]

Now they, and now they're holding up big signs at all the TP USA events. We're hiring, hiring right now.

[Jimmy Dore]

So they're there. They fired them without, without explanation. They did like an ambush firing. They bring people into the office and they would have their general counsel just fire them and not give them a reason at all. People who just got done. This is the people that Erica refers to as her TP USA family. And, and that's how they treated them. Just to let you know when she says that, oh thank everybody working so hard at production. Everybody doing the working 80 hour week and then they fired them. Just to let you know, ok, have.

[Erica Kirk (voice on call)]

Beef with each other from the past.

[Jimmy Dore]

And now she's telling people, let me back it up.

[Erica Kirk (voice on call)]

Breathing angels. I don't care if any of you have beef with each other from the past or have any issues with someone said something about this or that. Like if you guys have any of that, please put it to rest. My husband's dead. Like I'm not trying to be morbid, but he's dead. And it puts life into perspective of how short life is and relationships.

[Candace Owens]

It is the general tone.

[Jimmy Dore]

So I just want to say so she's telling people my husband. So she's positioning herself again, I'm the victim. My husband's dead. I'm the victim. So that means that anybody who works at TP USA, which I understand they have like 600 employees that anybody who works there, if you have a disagreement with a co worker about anything, get over it because my husband died. So you can't have normal human emotions. You can't have a normal human disagreements with people.

[Stu Peters]

This woman has never had a normal human emotion in her life. Not since I've known who she was.

[Jimmy Dore]

I, I, I, me too. I would have to concur. So here's what, here's how Candace, this is her reaction to what we just listened to.

[Candace Owens]

It is the general tone that is off putting. It's the laughter that is off putting. It's again, we are not even two weeks after watching your husband be assassinated. We're talking about numbers and metrics that have been hit and my husband's dead. Not to be morbid, that is a sentence that I. And this was not my husband and I had no sort of the type of relationship that she had with him that I was able to utter least of all. I mean, that's moving pretty quickly to the acceptance phase. Now we know everybody grieves differently in my imagination. I don't. I just thought she would be more upset. I do want to remind you that Charlie has not been dead for two weeks. That's where you have to go back to.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. So I just want to. I want to play that for people one more time without stopping it. It's not long, so I want to do this.

[Erica Kirk (voice on call)]

Hi, everybody. I still love all these emoji zoom things. Wow.

[Jimmy Dore]

It is funny.

[Erica Kirk (voice on call)]

I don't even know where to begin. The fact that we were able to pull off an event of a century, it's just insane. We had over 275,000 people that attended and stadium overflow, Westgate insane, you guys. And then you have. Was it 100 million? We had thousands that were registered to vote. I think we're at like over 200, 000 for merch sales. Don't quote me on that because I think it just keeps like bumping up like crazy. But I just wanted to say a huge, huge, huge thank you to the events team, the development team, the graphic design team, the production team. Just phenomenal. Their incredible work leading into the memorial. And honestly, a lot of this staff that worked on the memorial, they had 20 hour days for a week during the time of us grieving the loss of my husband. And honestly, I know several staff that didn't even sleep. Again, you guys are breathing angels. Breathing angels. I don't care if any of you have beef with each other from the past or have any issues with someone said something about this or that, like if you guys have any of that, please put it to rest. My husband's dead. Like, I'm not trying to be morbid, but he's dead. And it puts life into perspective of how short life is and relationships.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there it is. That's the whole. And that when I first heard that, I. My reaction was like that. Like for a couple of minutes I was like, oh my God. This is.

[Stu Peters]

The time frame is important.

[Jimmy Dore]

The time frame is very. It's like 11 days after his assassination, right?

[Stu Peters]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's unbelievable. Did you see that I posted a video or during the interview with my whistleblower yesterday that I shared a video of her Before Amfest, backstage preparing for Amfest.

[Jimmy Dore]

We are gonna. We're gonna play that next. So. Yeah, hold on to that. So I just want to say that a common tactic that the people like Erica and TPUSA have been using to discredit people like Candace or anybody who's looking into this at all. If you look into the assassination of Charlie Kirk, what they do. Grieving widow, is what they say is that you're just doing this for clicks. Look at all the money she's making. They tried to pretend like it's Candace Owens, who's the one who's capitalizing off of Charlie's death, when she's just doing her normal show like she always has, and she's making this, getting the same amount of views as she always has. And now, so. But the. Of course, that's called projection. Carl Jung teaches us that's projections. They're the ones who are actually rolling in the dough after Charlie's death, capitalizing off of his death. And you heard her. That's what she's talking about right now, about all the cash that they made off of his death. Isn't that what's happening right there? The same thing she's accused Candace Owens of?

[Stu Peters]

Yeah, absolutely. And it's been hundreds of millions of dollars, because let's not forget about the donor class that Charlie Kirk was trying to distance himself from in the days, weeks, and months leading up to his death. So, I mean, there are hundreds of millions of dollars that have been promised to this organization as long as they toe the line, and they're happy to do that. I mean, this has become absolutely a postmortem humiliation ritual as they try to recreate the person that Charlie was while he was alive the whole week on the Fox News Channel and the Shabbat shalom, daddy's home, throw the phone poem that she recited like she was Tupac. It's just like, you know, when you say normal human emotions, this is a woman who, as far as I'm concerned, and a lot of people said that it was crass, that it was low crass, it was disrespectful, I shouldn't do it. But immediately, Jimmy, immediately. When she opened her mouth, actually, she didn't even have to. I was driving down the road, and I don't know if it was the day after, but it was within 48 hours of Charlie being shockingly taken from all of us. Billions of people on the Internet have watched this, and it was within a matter of 48 hours. I get a text message From Turning Point, signed by Erica Kirk, asking for donations. And at that point, for me, it was gloves off. At that point, it was like, okay, I see what this is. And then it was the freedom shirts, and then it was the sparklers, and it was the fake tears, and it was the week on Fox News, and it was every camera that she could get in front of. And everything is scripted and fake. And for her entire life, every time you dig a little bit deeper, you find some other strange anomaly. And when you're talking about people that are saying, oh, well, you know, Candace is just doing this for clicks, the other argument that I always get is, why can't you just leave this woman alone? Why can't you just let her grieve? Everybody grieves differently. Everybody's heard that it's a big joke now. It's a meme. But this woman, everything about her, I just don't know how anybody could spend five minutes, keystroke, on the Internet and look into her and not say, well, this is just absolutely bizarre. And this woman has completely fabricated her entire childhood, her entire career. She's scrubbed the Internet of entire relationships, including a whole engagement. She's lied about the most trivial things when she could have just told us the truth about being on Fort Huachuca, when she could have told us the truth about dating or drinking. Just little things. And if you're willing to lie about those things, you're willing to lie about the big things. And it turns out she is. So I agree. I mean, that whole. That whole phone call. It doesn't surprise me, though, because I've spent a lot of time kind of getting to know the person that Erica Kirk is. And when I heard that from Candace, it just. It didn't shock me. I wasn't surprised. It's shocking. It's shocking to hear a person actually doing that and to know that there are beings among us that can actually put their emotions aside or just not have them and to carry on like this is a big celebration. But, I mean, I'm just here to tell you it doesn't surprise me because my theory or my take is that I am not convinced that Erica Kirk did not have foreknowledge at this point of what was gonna happen on September 10th. That's where I'm at. I don't know if that's a Rubicon that a lot of people don't wanna cross, but from where I sit, it, this. This looks like a woman who had foreknowledge.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, Baron Coleman also has come to that conclusion, who's done a lot of deep dives, as you have on this subject. And he had concluded that he thinks she had foreknowledge of his assassination. So that's him, at minimum, at you, and it certainly looks that way. Let me just play this for you right now. Now, this is Matthew the whistleblower from TP USA talking about. He spoke to someone who's still inside TP usa and she had a conversation with Tyler Boyer, who, let's remember, was the COO who Charlie was replacing. Because he found. My speculation is he found financial chicanery and he wanted to get to the bottom of it. And he knew Tyler Boyer was behind it. So he got rid of Tyler Bore as the CEO right before. But now he's going to tell you of a meeting that his friend who's on the inside had with Tyler Boyer, specifically about Charlie not being on board with Israel, but TP USA being 100% Zionist. Let's listen.

[Whistleblower/Insider]

My friend, when she was in his office, said to him, you know, what is it that you have? Why, why are you so against Candace Owens, the Israel cause, etc. She specifically, she's brave. She's, she's bold.

[Jimmy Dore]

She'll.

[Whistleblower/Insider]

She'll ask Tyler Boyer right to his face because she wants to know what is the big deal about not supporting Israel. That's when he shut the door, pulled her in and said, listen, I'm a Zionist. Candace Owens is a black conservative who wants to be relevant in this movement, and she's doing whatever she can at all cause to stay relevant. So that to me says a lot. That is proof. And it's in the text that I sent you to Stu of where she confirmed like, yes, you know, he pulled me into my, into his office and said that to me.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's been my suspicion all along, that Charlie had turned against the Zionist Project Israel, the Greater Israel. He had turned against them, turned down their money, and he had lots of powerful Jewish donors who were Zionists and Christians who were Zionists. And once he turned against them, they needed desperately to get Turning Point USA back on the Zionist train. And that's exactly what this enables because Erica's 100% Zionist. Tyler Boyer, you just heard, is 100% Zion. They're all, all those pastors, Mikey McCoy's dad, Rob McCoy, and they're all Zionists, 100% liars and liars. They're all 100% on that. They're liars and Zionists. And that's. Those are kind of redundant. When you say that, but. And so now. And if they weren't on the Zionist train, all their funding would dry up. They, Charlie had already turned down over $100 million from Benjamin Netanyahu and all their donors were pulling their money out left and right because they got wind of Charlie not supporting Israel and Zionism. And so they had to get rid of Charlie or else their whole organization was going to lose their money. And as we find out now from Wolves and Finance his, that there's lots of financial chicanery and shell companies involved inside of TP usa. And so Charlie was going to. So it was all going to go away. Their money, million million, multimillion dollar grift was going to go away because Charlie was going to divorce TP USA from the Zionist project and Israel. And they couldn't have that because then they have nothing. And plus, you know, they want to. All the things you said. Trump was getting ready for this big neocon militaristic buildup and takeover of Venezuela, Greenland, bombing, Iran, Yemen, whoever else, Cuba, Colombia, all this stuff he's getting ready to do. And they knew Charlie wasn't going to go for it. So there was all these. But that's the main reason for the people inside TP USA to want to get rid of Charlie and cover up who really killed him was because they knew if they exposed who really killed him, all their Zionist donorship money would go away and they would have no longer would have an organization. And that's always been my suspicion. And I think stuff like this proves it. What. What do you have to say?

[Stu Peters]

I couldn't disagree with anything that you just said. Yes, exclamation point on all of that. There are hundreds of millions of dollars at play here. And when you have somebody like Erica Kirk, for example, who her entire life she has tried to be famous and be in front of the camera. She starred in movies, by the way, on Fort Huachuca where she played the role of an assassin on a rooftop with a rifle. She's been Miss USA Arizona. She has been in CIA training videos. I mean, this woman has always. She was on national television dating and drinking. Although, be it, she'll tell Barry Weiss that she doesn't drink, she doesn't believe in that, and she didn't date. Did she not realize that she was on national television? I mean, how could she thinks you're an idiot. She thinks that everybody is really stupid and all of these people think that you're really stupid. But this goes a lot bigger. I think this was, you know, yesterday I just asked myself, how high does the ladder go here? And I think it really does go all the way to the Oval Office and to the Trump administration and to Mar A Lago. I think that Trump personally, this goes to him, and this goes to the people that Trump brought to Charlie Kirk. These are all the same players. There are several of them. They control private equity. They control the central banks. They are the big donors, and people like Tyler Boyer and people like Mikey McCoy and Erica Kirk, the people who are after the money, the people who want to be in the club, they want a Hobnob, they want to rub elbows with them. They want to be invited to their $10,000 a plate mar A Lago fundraising dinners, which was a whole nother thing. They want to be involved with this. They want to have the fame and the notoriety and the power. They crave it. They have to have it. It's incest. It's innately in them that they have to have this. And when they saw that being threatened and they saw Charlie Kirk standing on his Christian values, standing on his convictions. Look, let's just be frank here, brass tacks. There is not a place that you can go on the Internet since October 7th of 2023 and not find this conversation. You can go to Cooking Channel, Instagram pages, and you will find stuff about this control structure and this power apparatus from Israel and from the Zionist cause and from the Greater Israel cause. You can see that pressure everywhere. And you can see if you go to the comments sections on anybody's feed on any platform across the entire Internet, no matter the subject, you will find this as a talking point. There's no way that Charlie could have avoided this, especially, especially when he's working in the most Zionist organization, that if he were going to be a man of character, conviction, values, principles, that when he learned of this, there was no way that he could avoid confronting it. And I really do believe, I really do believe, just by all of the circumstantial evidence and physical, all of the video evidence, all of the historical precedent, all of the previous relationships and associations. It's very evident to me, and I thoroughly believe this until somebody can prove otherwise, that Charlie Kirk really, genuinely, authentically was having this real life kind of awakening in the same way that a lot of people have since October 7th. He was seeing this conversation everywhere. And he looked into it. And you don't have to look far, but when you are insulated and when you are Charlie Kirk and you've reached that level and you have these handlers and you have multiple phones and you're being dragged from this college campus to that meeting with the President, to this planning meeting with TP Action and this one with TP Faith and this one with Turning Point usa. And you are stretched thin. You don't go looking. People have to bring things to you, people have to make you aware of these things. Well, there was no way to avoid this one for him, for anybody. There's no way to avoid this conversation, no matter what side of this issue you sit on, whether you think I'm just crazy and a conspiracy theorist and I'm hate filled, whatever, if that's your position, fine, but you can't avoid the conversation. And so Charlie, when it came down to it, and he probably did a lot of research, he was a brilliant guy, he was really smart, very well articulated, well read. You could tell all these things about him. And when he looked into this, there was just no way to avoid it. But these people knew that if he continues down, this is why they were saying in these text messages, quote, we're very concerned, this is why they were very concerned that Charlie Kirk was about to, quote, unquote, go ballistic. And it was on these things. And it's not just Venezuela and it's not just Iran we are talking about right now, military action that will have the United States, the American war empire, on behalf of Israel's objectives. There's no way to skirt around that. At war with all of the BRICS nations.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Stu Peters]

And you know, I've said this before, it's like, you know, there's no way to get around the fact that brics, although be it first and foremost, is an economic alliance. You can't get around the military component of this when you're dealing with superpowers like China and Russia and I don't even know, quite honestly. I mean, we spent 20 years in Afghanistan and ended up handing all of our surplus military equipment and everything else right back to the Taliban. They're in control again. So to think that we could somehow take Iran, I don't know about that. I've seen Iranian, you know, military propaganda videos. I've seen that. I know how these people train.

[Jimmy Dore]

We could, we, we, we couldn't even detect exact. Exactly. We couldn't even take Afghanistan. No.

[Stu Peters]

And remember what happened in Vietnam? Imagine, you know, before. A lot of, a lot of people don't want to talk about this. Just before we went in the middle of the night with, you know, some US military contingent accompanied, I guess by federal law enforcement agents to kidnap that country's president in the Western Hemisphere, a sovereign nation in the Western Hemisphere, and bring this nation's leader to the sdny. That's a whole nother detour. But before we did that, you know, they were considering, like a real campaign to go in there. And they still are. By the way, if Paul Singer writes that check, and if Del C. Rodriguez doesn't do exactly as Paul Singer wants her to do with his Citgo oil, we'll be back into Venezuela. Can you imagine fighting in the jungle against these people? And here's what people don't want to talk about. There are videos that you can find, if you know where to look, of these Venezuelans who are training together, they're arming together, they have militias, there are millions of them that have buried themselves and entrenched themselves on every street, all throughout and in the jungles of Venezuela. And they have said, we will oppose militaristically, we will physically, we will kinetically oppose any kind of American invasion, which may be why they did it the way that they did and went and just got Maduro and said, hey, we just want to show the leadership here that we're about business and we mean that. And we're going to pressure these people through other kind of economic sanctions or a military blockade, whatever it might be. But can you imagine, we're going to fight with Venezuela, we're going to fight with the same, by the way, situation. All of the American men that were cut to pieces in rice paddies in Vietnam, all of the men that we lost in that war, and now we're talking about Venezuela guerrilla warfare in Colombia and in Cuba. I mean, we are stretched so thin already that we can't protect or choose not to protect our own borders and instead protect the countries that hate us. But simultaneously to all of this guerrilla warfare that we would be going through in the jungle, similar and akin to Vietnam, we're now squaring off against these countries in the Middle East. We're squaring off against Russia, we're hijacking their oil tankers, we're hijacking Chinese oil tankers, we're taking them to hundreds of millions of dollars in oil and just poking the bear everywhere, while Miriam Adelson just keeps on shoving cash at Donald Trump, saying that she'll give him another 250 million if he decides to run for a third term. And then he made the comment about a fourth term. I mean, all of this is stuff that Jimmy, I am 100% certain Charlie Kirk would be, quote, going ballistic over.

[Jimmy Dore]

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[Stu Peters]

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[Jimmy Dore]

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[Stu Peters]

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[Jimmy Dore]

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[Candace Owens]

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[Jimmy Dore]

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[Candace Owens]

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[Jimmy Dore]

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