CAUGHT On Hidden Camera: DOJ Official ADMITS Epstein Coverup!

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Jimmy Dore Show

Episode: CAUGHT On Hidden Camera: DOJ Official ADMITS Epstein Coverup!
Date: October 1, 2025
Host: Jimmy Dore
Key Guests/Characters: Kurt Metzger (comedian/sidekick), Mike MacRae (impressions), Glenn Prager (DOJ investigator), Cash Patel (impression/parody), Chris Wallace (parody/interview), Narrator/Reporter (from undercover segment)

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Main Theme/Purpose

This episode of The Jimmy Dore Show dissects the recent bombshell investigative report from James O’Keefe, which displays a hidden camera conversation with Glenn Prager—a Department of Justice official tied to the Epstein case—who candidly admits Epstein was a CIA asset, and details DOJ/FBI coverups involving powerful people, including the Clintons and Trump. Jimmy and Kurt analyze the implications this has on the narrative around Epstein, government corruption, and media manipulation, while riffing on related issues of government trust, institutional incompetence, and digital control measures in the UK.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Skit: FBI Parody and Narrative Manipulation

• [01:18–07:51]

• Jimmy fields a satirical call from “Cash Patel,” played by Mike MacRae, lampooning FBI incompetence and narrative control about a recent ICE facility shooting. The segment criticizes how "left wing violence" is quickly attributed without evidence and how the FBI (under Trump) prioritizes optics over truth.

  Cash Patel (Mike MacRae):
  "Because this is the Trump DOJ, dude. It's the Wild West, man. You think I'm qualified for this job? Absolutely the fuck not, dude. But guess what? I got the windbreaker." (05:10)

• The skit highlights how facts are selectively used and the dangers of premature government narratives.

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2. James O’Keefe Exposé: DOJO Investigator Blows Whistle on Epstein

• [08:04–16:23]

• James O’Keefe’s outlet records and releases a conversation with Glenn Prager, a DOJ Epstein investigator, who reveals:

  • Epstein was a CIA asset, and worked for both the U.S. and Israeli intelligence.
  • The DOJ did not pursue Epstein aggressively because of his intelligence ties.
  • Victims in Palm Beach were paid off before trials, often poor children given $150–$500k to drop cases.
  • Bill Clinton was present on planes during crimes; Trump was not present during alleged assaults, per flight logs and victim interviews.

  Glenn Prager (Undercover recording):
  "It's not talked about yet, but it'll soon come out that he was a CIA [asset]." (09:04, 14:27)
  "DOJ was settling a case, and… they didn't want to go after him. … part of that is because all the victims kept on flipping … but more importantly, part is they didn't want to go after him." (14:47)
  "He's an asset for the United States and Israel for CIA." (15:03)
  "I've interviewed all the victims. There's never been an instance where Trump was on a plane with these kids and their rape occurred. But that can't be said for Clinton and it can't be said for others." (16:23)

• The revelations are treated as both shocking confirmation and as material for critical examination of the FBI/DOJ, underscoring the institutional rot and culture of coverup.

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3. Aftermath & Official Denial

• [22:07–24:27]

• After being confronted post-publication, Glenn Prager claims he was entrapped in a casual context, misrepresented himself, and that his statements shouldn't be interpreted as accurate.

  Jimmy Dore:
  "Any remarks from that exchange should not be interpreted as accurate statements because I'm a liar. That's what he's saying." (23:08)

• Jimmy points out the irony, noting the FBI routinely conducts undercover ops using deception, and ridicules Prager's attempt to walk back his admissions.

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4. Broader Implications: Government Secrecy and Media Complicity

• [25:09–41:27]

• Discussion pivots to the broader DOJ/FBI culture:

  • FBI retains control over the Epstein black book and won't release it.
  • History of coverups and classified files ("Hoover Power x10") – FBI as a central hub for blackmail material.
  • Comparisons made to the handling of other scandals (e.g., Nashville school shooting manifesto).
  • The government’s incentive to hide information for power and leverage.

• Jimmy and Kurt also lampoon the political/media class's reflex to spin and mischaracterize facts, especially around topics like Russiagate.

  Chris Wallace (parody interview):
  "Did you know that... the Steele report was the key for probable cause? … You're the FBI director." (38:20)

• Highlight of Chris Wallace “dismantling” James Comey, illustrating how senior officials evade accountability and use weasel words.

  Jimmy Dore:
  "He was just too confident. I wasn't lying. I was just overconfident." (35:18)

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5. Digital ID in the UK: Authoritarian Creep

• [43:07–54:20]

• The conversation shifts to the new UK “mandatory digital ID” announced by PM Keir Starmer.

  • Framed as a control measure (“mark of the beast”), not just for immigration.
  • Criticized by both far-left (Corbyn) and far-right (Farage), as well as nurses’ unions.
  • Raises concerns about centralization, hackability, risk to privacy, and the ease of government overreach.
  • Parallels drawn to digital control developments in China.

  Jimmy Dore:
  "If we get this digital ID system working … that will be the bedrock of the modern state." (46:38)
  "It is the end of a free society dressed up as convenience." (50:05)

• Jimmy and Kurt mock the government’s claim that this is for “your own good,” arguing it’s about centralized power and social credit system potential.

  Kurt:
  "They're doing it for that on purpose. And there ain't shit you're gonna do about it..." (53:54)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Cash Patel (satirical):
  "I have this job because I'm good at talking shit, but I'm not good at solving crimes. No idea what I'm doing. Whatever. Who cares? I'm still getting laid more than probably anybody, okay?" (05:10)
• Glenn Prager:
  "He’s an asset for the United States and Israel for CIA…That’s why he was protected so long…more about Israeli stuff than anything else." (15:03–15:39)
• Jimmy Dore (on coverups):
  "If they can do this to a sitting president, they'll do it to anybody. They'll do it to Bernie Sanders, they'll do it to Elizabeth Warren, do it to Cornel West. They'll do it to anybody." (33:21)
• Chris Littlewood (read by Jimmy, on Digital ID):
  "Digital ID for every adult is not progress. It is the end of a free society dressed up as convenience. … It turns rights into permissions controlled by the state…" (50:05)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Satirical FBI/DOJ skit — Narrative Control and Incompetence:
  [01:18–07:51]
• Analysis of the James O’Keefe Epstein DOJ Leak:
  [08:04–16:23]
• Official Denial, Aftermath, and Community Reaction:
  [22:07–24:27]
• FBI Black Book, Government Blackmail Power, and Media Complicity:
  [25:09–41:27]
• Digital ID in the UK, Authoritarian Risks, and Global Control:
  [43:07–54:20]

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Summary and Takeaways

Jimmy Dore’s episode weaves together fresh undercover revelations about the Epstein case—centering on DOJ’s protection of a CIA asset and the blackmail culture surrounding the elite—with a broad critique of American and British governmental overreach. Parody-heavy, irreverent, and infuriated, Jimmy and Kurt lament a systemic pattern: powerful people and their institutions collude to conceal crimes, hoard leverage, and tighten social control. Whether it’s the FBI’s black book, Russiagate lies, or the UK’s digital ID rollout, the show urges skepticism of official narratives and warns against creeping authoritarianism dressed as public benefit.

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Transcript

[Jimmy Dore]

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[Kurt]

That means no small talk.

[Glenn Prager]

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[Kurt]

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[Kurt]

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[Jimmy Dore]

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[Cash Patel]

Hey, this Cash Patel.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, hello, Director Patel. Thanks for calling.

[Cash Patel]

What's up, my brother?

[Jimmy Dore]

What's on your mind today?

[Cash Patel]

Well, Jimmy, needless to say, the FBI is strenuously and assiduously investigating the deplorable shooting today at an ICE facility in the Dallas Fort Worth area. We are working with state, local and regional law enforcement agencies and entities, both seen and unseen in and around the Dallas Fort Worth area and working around the clock to resolve the situation and bring anyone to justice who still living needs to be brought there. Amen. Amen.

[Jimmy Dore]

Can you give us an idea of where this investigation currently stands?

[Cash Patel]

Yeah, totally. Absolutely. Well, the shooter, the sniper, we. We have their. Their bullets. Or like. Like the part of the bullet that stays behind when the bullet is fired.

[Jimmy Dore]

You mean the shell casings?

[Cash Patel]

Yes, exactly, the shell.

[Jimmy Dore]

Shell casings.

[Cash Patel]

So we have those. And messages were written on them. And again, the messages contain helpful information to the investigation which our investigators, FBI investigators, are currently investigating.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, what kind of message?

[Cash Patel]

Well, first of all, Jimmy, I'd like to remind everyone this is a rapidly developing situation. A lot of conflicting information has come to light. But to answer your question, these shell bullets Shell casings. These shell casings had, quote, anti ICE written on them, which indicates to our top investigators and forensic experts that the shooter may have harbored anti. ICE sentiments.

[Jimmy Dore]

I see. I see.

[Cash Patel]

So, boom, right there, Left wing violence. Like JP Vance tweeted out it said right there in the casings. Anti ice. How much clearer could this get?

[Jimmy Dore]

But the shooter didn't kill any ICE agents. He shot detainees. He shot detainees?

[Cash Patel]

Yeah. That's weird. That is weird. We're definitely looking into that. That's also being investigated currently.

[Jimmy Dore]

Why would a leftist shooter target vulnerable immigrants who are being detained and deported?

[Cash Patel]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, he could just be really bad at shooting. Possibly. That's one. Also, maybe hated ICE so much that, like, he knew that their favorite thing was being mean to Mexicans. So if he killed Mexicans, he would rob ICE of the opportunity to be mean to them, which, like, ruin their day.

[Jimmy Dore]

Are you being serious right now?

[Cash Patel]

Dude, I don't fucking know, okay? I don't have all the answers presently. All I know is that this was left wing violence.

[Jimmy Dore]

How do you know this was left wing violence before the case has even been concluded?

[Cash Patel]

Because it is, okay? It always is. It's always left wing violence. I'm sorry, do you have a windbreaker that says FBI Director on it that makes a sound when you walk up to a podium, give a press conference about some serious ass FBI shit? No. I didn't think so.

[Jimmy Dore]

Look, I'm not. I'm not saying he's not why this man rushed to steer the narrative before getting all the facts.

[Cash Patel]

Because this is the Trump doj, dude. It's the Wild west, man. You think I'm qualified for this job? I'm in. Absolutely. The fuck not, dude. But guess what? I got the windbreaker. Wearing it right now. I have this job because I'm good at talking shit, but I'm not good at solving crimes. No idea what I'm doing. Whatever. Who cares? I'm still getting laid than more than probably anybody, okay? My job is to immediately start tweeting out evidence to the public in the beginning stages of an investigation in the most inconceivably irresponsible way imaginable. Former FBI directors criticize that. Suck my dick, dude.

[Chris Wallace]

Where are you now?

[Cash Patel]

Not running the FBI anymore, that's where. Enjoy going to Applebee's in the D.C. suburbs with your family's losers? I'm drinking Cristal up in the club, bitch.

[Jimmy Dore]

Shouldn't the FBI Director be a little more circumspect than that?

[Cash Patel]

Don't even Know what that means? Don't even care, dude. All I know is Trump gives me a raise every time a shooter is left wing. And I'm here to make bank, not make friends. Maybe I'll investigate your fucking ass.

[Jimmy Dore]

Me?

[Cash Patel]

Sure, why not? I'm Cash Patel, bitch.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, what would you investigate me for?

[Cash Patel]

I have no idea. But we're the FBI. We could def cook something up. We can cook something up by EOD if need be.

[Jimmy Dore]

Eod? Yeah, I think you'd be pretty bored if you investigated me, actually.

[Cash Patel]

Oh, boring. You know what's not boring? These bullets I just found in Jimmy Dore's garage that have this. This is for the trans girlies written on them in lipstick. Oh, dang. Looks like Jimmy Dore is transa. See how easy this is? This job rules, dude.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, well thank you, Mr. Printell, for. Okay, well thank you Mr. For introducing yourself to us and giving us a little insight on how the FBI is currently run. Please don't investigate me.

[Cash Patel]

Just don't say anything we don't like, that's all. Won't be no shit if you don't start no shit.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, well, we've got to go now.

[Cash Patel]

Peace out, brother. Maybe I'll see you in Valhalla too. Along with Charlie Kirk, Jean Claude Van Damme and Megatron from the Transformers. God damn, I fucking love cocaine, dude.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Establishment media sucks. August light.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so good luck we can't afford.

[Kurt]

Why he's fomenting this.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Watch and see as his jack golf.

[Jimmy Dore]

The medium speeds and jumps the medium.

[Narrator/Reporter]

And hits him head on.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's the chimney tour show boy. This James o' Keefe guy, this is amaz. It's amazing what schlubby looking guys will say when a beautiful woman pays them attention. And it's. And it's not just straight guys too. It's gay guys also no gay guys.

[Kurt]

And fat straight guys will go for anything.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. So James o' Keefe has done it again. World exclusive bombshell. A senior Department of Justice Epstein investigator reveals on an undercover camera that Epstein was CIA. Of course this is stuff we all know, but it's got. It's nice to have it confirmed by a CIA guy on an undercover camera. He confirms that grapes occurred while Bill Clinton was on the plane. Says of President Trump, he's protecting a lot of other people. He's not protecting himself because there's nothing there. This is what this guy said on an under undercover video. So let's.

[Glenn Prager]

It's not talked about yet, but it soon come out that he was a CIA.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's saying, so they met this. So some woman, I'm going to guess some very beautiful woman meets some schlubby guy who works for the FBI. She knows he does because he's got, he's got this or the Department of Justice. He's got this badge on his backpack. So she goes over, starts trying to honey pot him, talk to, and he just starts blabbing to her. And then they go to lunch after and he keeps going. So what he just said, it's not talked about yet, but it's soon to come out that Epstein was a CIA informant. That's what he just said right there.

[Kurt]

Oh, no. What about Mossad? He didn't mention that. Right. So he was a CIA.

[Glenn Prager]

I think he's protecting a lot of other people. It's not, he's not protecting himself.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he says, I think Trump is protecting a lot of other people. He's not protecting himself because there's nothing there, but he's protecting a lot of people.

[Kurt]

That's worse.

[Jimmy Dore]

Which is worse.

[Kurt]

If Trump's protecting other people and not himself, why are you doing that?

[Jimmy Dore]

Why would he be doing that?

[Glenn Prager]

A lot of people? Because Trump's now saying it's a hoax.

[Jimmy Dore]

Because Trump's now saying it's a hoax. That's the guy. Trump's now saying it's a hoax. The case is like a hoax.

[Glenn Prager]

The case is like a hoax or something. I mean, you know, it's not a hoax. He's been on the plane, you know, many times.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Trump's been on at the Lolita Express many times. He was just never on the plane with kids.

[Glenn Prager]

He was never on the plane with kids. I've seen the itineraries and I've interviewed all of the victims. There's never been an instance where Trump was on a plane with these kids.

[Jimmy Dore]

And a great. Because. So he said, I've, I've read all the. He's looked into it. He's read all the things and there was never an instance when Trump was on a plane, when these kids were graped, he says, but that cannot be said for Clinton and it can't be said for others.

[Kurt]

Is there any word on the 13th, the woman who was 13 that said she was with Trump, with Epstein. Is there any word on that? Was that. I mean, it could be a thing they made up at the time to smear, jump, but I've never. Did they follow up on that. I'd like to know more about that.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'd like to know more about it here. Is more to this. While the Clintons were on the plane, while Bill Clinton was on the plane, there were grapes of children that occurred. That's what he's saying there. And of course, I say grape, so I don't get this demonetized.

[Kurt]

Take society, isn't it?

[Jimmy Dore]

Take the G away. Here we go.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Overheard at Phoenix Airport on September 8, 2025, a senior Justice Department investigator who personally worked on the Epstein case tells all. Glenn Prager, who has reviewed Epstein itineraries and has interviewed Epstein's victims, drops a bombshell. He says that the DOJ did not want to go after Epstein because he's a CIA asset, that the evidence from his investigation confirms that Bill Clinton was present for alleged rapes on the Lolita Express, and that President Trump was not present for the rapes that Glenn Prager investigated, but that he is protecting a lot of other people that were.

[Jimmy Dore]

How about this whole. This whole Epstein thing that's like, going on.

[Glenn Prager]

I worked in that case. I used to interview all the victims.

[Jimmy Dore]

He said, I worked in that case. I used to interview all the victims.

[Glenn Prager]

And my picture was.

[Jimmy Dore]

My picture was 20 to 30 victims in Palm beach that I was interviewing.

[Glenn Prager]

20 to 30 victims in Palm beach that I was interviewing and dealing with. Something like that. And then go ready to go to.

[Jimmy Dore]

Trial, they would flip. So then they would get ready to go to trial, and all those witnesses would flip. I wonder why.

[Glenn Prager]

Epstein would just pay them off.

[Jimmy Dore]

Epstein would just pay them off. And they were just like these little kids. They pay off their family. They're all broke kids with poor families. That's why Jeffrey Epstein targeted poor kids, because they're easy to pay off. So he didn't target rich kids, he targeted poor kids.

[Kurt]

Yeah, once everyone's poor, everyone will be very easy.

[Glenn Prager]

And they were just like these little kids. They pay off their family. They're all broke kids and poor families. So you pay them off anywhere from 150 to $500,000. Nothing in that guy's.

[Jimmy Dore]

You pay them off with 150 grand, maybe 500 grand, which is nothing to an international trafficker who's got the biggest single family residence in Manhattan, which is Jeffrey Epstein.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Prager there describes how the victims that he interviewed were paid off by Epstein right before going to trial. Prager has worked as an investigator inside the Department of justice for over 20 years. According to Prager's LinkedIn about Page, it says that during the tenure at DOJ, Prager served as an inspector overseeing sensitive Investigations involving major DOJ complaints components including the FBI, DEA, Bureau of Prisons, U.S. marshals Service, ATF, and the U. S. Attorney's offices. This seems to corroborate what Prager told us. He was tasked with interviewing Epstein's rape victims and investigating flight logs. On his backpack in the airport, we spotted an embroidered FBI patch which caught the attention of our citizen journalist.

[Glenn Prager]

I'll tell you this because it's not talked about yet, but it soon come out that he was a CIA.

[Jimmy Dore]

He was a CIA.

[Glenn Prager]

He wasn't a CIA.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Although many have suspected it to be the case, this is the first time a department of justice official has confirmed that Epstein worked for the CIA and is a foreign asset.

[Glenn Prager]

So DOJ was settling a case, and they were just letting him, you know, do house arrests and do they minimize his arrest? Part of that is because all the victims kept on flipping and they didn't have anyone to go to trial with. More importantly, part is they didn't want to go after him.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's a.

[Glenn Prager]

You know, he's a asset for the United States and Israel for CIA.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there it is, Kurt. He did. He did mention Israel. He goes, he's an asset for the United States and Israel for the CIA. So he does say it.

[Glenn Prager]

I just know those guys, what he was. And that's why he was protected so long for this. And people turned a blind eye about all this. This garbage that he was United States.

[Jimmy Dore]

So people have turned a blind eye to all the garbage epime was doing. He had a lot of secrets, you know, with more about Israel stuff than anything else.

[Glenn Prager]

More about Israeli stuff than anything else. I mean, he was doing stuff for Israel and United States.

[Jimmy Dore]

He was doing stuff for Israel and the United States. He was. You know, he was working for both of them.

[Glenn Prager]

You know, he's working for both.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Glenn Prager, the Department of justice investigator on the Epstein case, then talks about whether president Trump was involved. Many are trying to tie Trump to Epstein, but what Glenn Prager says is that Trump wasn't present during the inappropriate sexual behavior that he was investigating. But Prager does say that Bill Clinton was backed up by his experience interviewing the victims and reviewing the Epstein Lolita express itineraries. Quote, they killed the Epstein list to protect the Clintons.

[Glenn Prager]

They claim that, you know, that Trump's involved in the rapes and all that stuff. He wasn't. I mean, I've seen the agendas, I've seen the itineraries, and I've interviewed all the victims. There's never been an instance where Trump was on a plane with these kids and their rape occurred. But that can't be set for Clinton and it can't be said for. I remember that it was being killed because I know Clintons were on there.

[Jimmy Dore]

And the Clintons were on there 100.

[Glenn Prager]

And while the Clintons were on the plane, while Bill Clinton's on the plane, there were rapes that occur. And I'm saying Trump, although as many flights as there were and all that kind of stuff and on the island and all stuff, he was never there during a single alleged rape.

[Jimmy Dore]

For sure.

[Glenn Prager]

And that's where the big cover up was.

[Jimmy Dore]

So the big cover up was around Clinton.

[Kurt]

Why is he covering up for the Clintons? Anyone?

[Jimmy Dore]

Because he's. Because he has handlers. Donald Trump has a boss and they want to cover up. That's it.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Department of justice investigator inside the Trump Justice Department says that while Trump may not have been present during the crimes that Prager investigated, it is clear that Trump is, quote, protecting a lot of people.

[Glenn Prager]

I don't know what's new that I have never seen that he's so hesitant to now show what's going on, releasing all those files. I think he's protecting a lot of other people. He's not protecting himself because there's nothing there, but he's protecting a lot of people.

[Narrator/Reporter]

The citizen journalist boarded American Airlines Flight 1634 and landed in D.C. monday at 8 o' clock at night and proceeded to go to dinner with this man, this DOJ investigator at a restaurant called Blue Duck Tavern.

[Jimmy Dore]

Didn't we eat there? What does that sound familiar? Is that the Hyatt? That restaurant sounds like it. Is that where we went to dinner? Glenn Prager dislikes the Blue Duck Tavern. I think we went there. Sounds like that.

[Narrator/Reporter]

The fact Trump said the Epstein scandal is a hoax, but he also says, according to the evidence from his investigation, that Trump is not covering up for.

[Glenn Prager]

Himself because Trump's now saying it's a hoax of the case. Like a hoax or something. I'm like, come on, you know, it's not a hoax.

[Jimmy Dore]

He does a lot of.

[Glenn Prager]

Says a lot of stupid stuff.

[Kurt]

He's been on the plane, you know, many times.

[Glenn Prager]

It's just he was never on the plane with the kids. People want to tie it to him and say he's covering up for himself, but he's not.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Now, this is a very good thing for President Trump and seemingly exonerates him for many people who claim that he was doing something inappropriate himself. This dinner went on for an hour and 45 minutes as this Department of Justice investigator revealed things to a stranger that the leadership of the FBI and the Department of Justice has not. Prager revealed more information about Trump's hesitation to be fully transparent with the Epstein case, gave us some details about internal gripes against FBI Director Kash Patel from within the FBI, and he detailed a developing feud between Cash Patel and Attorney General Pam Bondi. If you'd like to see more of that conversation in the restaurant, you may subscribe to OMG and find it on our website.

[Jimmy Dore]

Who is like the one name where.

[Cash Patel]

You'Re like, oh, my God.

[Jimmy Dore]

So then he. So he calls this guy. So James o' Keefe calls that guy. That FBI guy.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Here he is. Hey, there. Is this Glenn?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Narrator/Reporter]

You work for the Department of Justice, correct?

[Jimmy Dore]

No.

[Narrator/Reporter]

You don't work for the Department of Justice. You had a patch on your backpack that said FBI, Federal Bureau of Investigation in the airport.

[Kurt]

Yeah.

[Cash Patel]

And you.

[Narrator/Reporter]

You talked about how you interviewed the Epstein people, all the Epstein victims. Do you recall that conversation?

[Jimmy Dore]

I didn't know.

[Cash Patel]

I don't know.

[Jimmy Dore]

How can I help you?

[Narrator/Reporter]

I wanted to confirm that you, in.

[Cash Patel]

Fact, do work for.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Did work for the department. Hang on to the phone.

[Jimmy Dore]

He hangs up, calls him back.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Let's try calling him again.

[Cash Patel]

Glenn, I'm not talking to you.

[Kurt]

I don't know who you are.

[Glenn Prager]

I'm not talking.

[Narrator/Reporter]

You already did speak to my. My friend.

[Jimmy Dore]

Gangs up again.

[Kurt]

Now stop talking. I don't know who you are.

[Narrator/Reporter]

I'm a journalist. I need your. I need your help, sir.

[Glenn Prager]

I'm not talking to you or any journalist about anything.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Did he interview the Epstein victims?

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm not. I can't talk to you.

[Narrator/Reporter]

On the heels of releasing.

[Jimmy Dore]

So anyway, that's. I mean, in case anybody needed more confirmation. Boy, this James o' Keefe guy, this is amazing. It's amazing what schlubby looking guys will say when a beautiful woman pays them attention. And it's. And it's not just straight guys, too. It's gay guys also.

[Kurt]

No gay guys. And fat straight guys will go for anything.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Hey, guys. And fat straight guys. So, again, I don't know how James o' Keefe gets this stuff, how they get people to talk like that, but they do. And apparently Virginia or is. Or Washington, D.C. apparently, you can. You don't need to disclose that you're taping, which is very helpful to someone like D.C. that's where this happened in New York.

[Kurt]

Then why in California do you have to.

[Jimmy Dore]

California, you have to tell people you're recording. So. I remember whenever I would. I would. Whenever I interviewed somebody, I would Go. Hey, I'm recording this. So you have to let them know. But you'd have to do that, I guess, in New York and you have to do it in Washington, D.C. is that, is that Virginia maybe?

[Kurt]

No. Well, D.C. is its own thing in, you know, it's, it's like, like the City of London or something, you know, not London itself.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here's a little more.

[Glenn Prager]

It's not talked about yet, but it's.

[Jimmy Dore]

Soon come out anyway. No, we got it. Department of. So he says. So the guy reached out. The Department of Justice investigator reached out, offering a response to our report. You want to hear what his response is? Ready for this? I was approached in what I believed was a casual, non professional context. Yeah, that's why you let your guard down and told the truth. And I later learned the individual was misrepresenting themselves. How dare they do an undercover investigation where they misrepresent. Because the FBI never does that. They never pretend to be someone else when they're infiltrating a group to get evidence. Right. They would never do that. Thinking it was simply personal banter, I responded in kind. Why would you make all that stuff up then? So I always, when I, when I'm, when I'm just having a casual conversation with a stranger, I just make up all this stuff about the Epstein case. Any remarks from that exchange should not be interpreted as accurate statements because I'm a liar. That's what he's saying. Or reflective of my actual work, conduct or opinions. I want to ensure there is no confusion caused by the misleading interaction. Oh, it's misleading. So this is what's called a gaffe in Washington D.C. when you get caught telling the truth.

[Kurt]

I thought this was fake until I saw this.

[Jimmy Dore]

Please stop.

[Kurt]

I thought it was fake until I saw this idiot put this out here like this.

[Jimmy Dore]

He says, please stop calling and texting. It's approaching harassment. Printing any story related to my opinion is misleading and or is completely inaccurate to make it perfectly clear I was not involved in any way and any opinions are based on public information. So that's what he's saying. Now here's what Jessica Vaught immediately underneath this post on Twitter, Jessica Vaughn says, Rep. James o' Keefe and guards and, and prayers. Roseanne Barr says, excellent work as always, Roger Stone. This is completely consistent with the research I did for my book Clinton War on Women. Clinton's War on Women and I and its extensive chapter on Epstein. Luke Rudkowski, friend of the show, says, huge.

[Kurt]

Huge.

[Jimmy Dore]

Ginny, I don't know who she is, she says another conspiracy theory proven true. Luke Rudkowski doing good. Big 1.2 thousand likes on it.

[Kurt]

Is it really like a thing that again, this is like that disclosure bullshit. Like you really needed to wait until one of them let it slip trying to get laid. That, that's what it was. The thing we all know.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, I mean, no, this is, but this is. No, I just, I don't need it. But this now gives reporters and everybody else ammunition when they want to confront Cash Patel or they want to confront Donna, Donald Trump or, or Pam Bondi or Dan Bonjean. They have, now they have, they have ammunition. Real hard evidence of this guy saying this stuff. So remember what, first of all, they could just show this video of Cash Patel. This is before he knew he was going to be FBI director. This is what he used to say to Glenn Beck, who has, who for.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Instance, who is currently holding this way off the topic, but who has Jeffrey Epstein's black book.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, the FBI. But who that is that, I mean.

[Narrator/Reporter]

There'S, that's under direct control of the director of the FBI.

[Jimmy Dore]

Director of the FBI.

[Narrator/Reporter]

The manifesto from the Nashville school shooting.

[Jimmy Dore]

Of the Catholic schools.

[Narrator/Reporter]

We still haven't seen that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right?

[Narrator/Reporter]

It's not the Nashville police or PD saying we don't want this out. The FBI air mailed into that operation as said, this is not getting out because they do that because they, this.

[Jimmy Dore]

Is another government gangster operation.

[Narrator/Reporter]

All these local law enforcement communities get funding from the DOJ and FBI for local programs. If you don't cooperate, you're not getting your million dollars for this and you're not getting your, that's a lot of money to these local districts. That's how they play the game. That's why you don't have a black book.

[Chris Wallace]

But the black book is not just sitting.

[Glenn Prager]

I mean that's, that's, that's hoover power times 10.

[Narrator/Reporter]

And to me that's a thing I think President Trump should run on. On day one, roll out the black book. And not just that on day one, roll out all of the text message communications we were told were deleted on day one.

[Jimmy Dore]

Play the rest of the video of the pipe rover on day.

[Narrator/Reporter]

You know he needs.

[Jimmy Dore]

One of the reforms I talk about.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Government gangsters is you need a central node to be continuously dec. Declassifying is another thing they do. They over classify and I'm telling you as a former number two in the IC, they over classify 50 of the stuff there to protect the deep state. Oh no, you can't see that. Nothing to See here, Gina was a master at it.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's exactly what they said about the Epstein files. Him and Dan Bonjino. Well, I've seen it. And there's a. He killed himself. I saw. I saw it. I saw the other wreck. We'll release all the records.

[Kurt]

I don't care if he killed himself. Who was going to his island and doing stuff with kids that still works there. That's what I wanted to know.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, why don't. Why don't you release the black book that he's screaming about here with Glenn Beck, that he's saying that it directly. Directly in control of the FBI director. Well, guess who's the FBI director now. Him.

[Kurt]

Why are they saying the black book? That's the thing Nick Bryant had that he wrote his book about. He told us on the show go flight logs. Is that what they mean? The black book is what Nick Bryant has he repeated he's the gun more than in the binder. They had. Nick Bryant had that black book. And I don't. I don't remember him getting it from the FBI.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let's watch. Well, according to the FBI Director now in 2023, the FBI director, the guy who's currently the FBI director, was saying that the FBI director has the. Has all the pertinent documents. He has the. He has the Hoover Power Times 10, J. Edgar Hoover. But he's got the blackmail stuff the FBI director does. Has he released any of that stuff? Absolutely not. He said that they should release everything of doing it. And so that's. That's one of those rare videotapes where Cash Patel. Where his eyes don't look like he caught. Caught him tugging it in the bathroom, if you know what I mean. Here's what Donald Trump says about it.

[Kurt]

Mr. President, I know you've urged people.

[Jimmy Dore]

To move on, but I'm curious.

[Kurt]

Why do you think your supporters in.

[Jimmy Dore]

Particular have been so interested in the Epstein story? I'm so upset about how it's been handled. I don't understand it, why they would be so interested. He's dead. For a long time. He was never a big factor in terms of life. I don't understand what the interest or what the fascination is. I really don't. And the credible information's been given. Don't forget, we went through years of the Muller which hunt and all of the different things to steal dossier, which was all fake. All that information was fake. But I don't understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody. It's pretty boring stuff. It's sorted, but it's boring and I don't understand why it keeps going. I, I think really only pretty bad people, including fake news, want to keep something like, like that going. But credible information, let them give it. Anything that's credible, I would say let them have it. Mr. President, a question on AI how do you want Americans to think about it? This is for a former deputy director of the CIA. He says Israeli spies have done more harm and have damaged the United States more than the intelligence agents of all other countries on earth combined. They are the gravest threat to our national security. That's Admiral Bobby Inman said that. Former deputy director of the CIA. Did he really say that? I don't know. Let's ask Rock. Did he really say that? Well, here's Julian Assange. The reason the FBI wouldn't let the Epstein client list come out in court is because if they did, their blackmail would no longer be useful and the CIA would lose their control over all the powerful people they spent decades setting up. So that's why, that's why they can't let any of this information out. That's why they have to make. It's a hoax. There's nothing there. He didn't work for a CIA or the Mossad. He was just some guy who was a creep and that's that. And he's dead now, just like. Just like Bill Gates said. Well, he's dead now, so. So we don't have to talk about it anymore.

[Kurt]

I'm waiting for Michael Tracy's take myself.

[Jimmy Dore]

I wait. I'm waiting for Michael Tracy's take.

[Kurt]

I'm waiting for that small, fat oily man to tell me to forget what I saw.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy dork.com clicking on join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. When the prosecutors, the career prosecutors, according to the Yahoo News story, say that there's no case there to be had, we couldn't prove it. Chris Wallace nailed this guy to the wall a million different ways in a five minute interview. You want to watch it? So I'm going to show you. So they say that, oh, this is just a political prosecution. The career lawyers in the Department of Justice said that this, we could never prosecute this. This is wrong. We don't have the evidence. Well, we couldn't prove it to a jury. Here's Chris Wallace. Chris Wallace. The bad Wallace is going to. Is going to destroy James Comey. Let's watch.

[Inspector General Michael Horowitz]

I know I don't see the disconnect between the two of us, and I'm sorry that I'm missing it here.

[Chris Wallace]

Are you and the Inspector general, Michael Horowitz answering the same question? Do you think this is vindication?

[Inspector General Michael Horowitz]

It is. I mean, the FBI's had to wait two years while the president and his followers lied about the incident institution. Finally, the truth gets told.

[Jimmy Dore]

Does your report vindicate Mr. Comey? So they're talking about when the inspector general did an investigation into Russiagate and they found out that they had lied to the FISA court 17 times. And they was all, Russiagate was all built on a house of lights. And so he's. They ask, do you think that your report that they're asking the inspector general, do you think your report about Russiagate vindicates James Comey? Because James Comey just said it did. Here's what the inspector general says.

[Glenn Prager]

It doesn't vindicate anyone at the FBI who touched this, including the leadership.

[Chris Wallace]

The IG says you should feel no vindication.

[Inspector General Michael Horowitz]

Well, maybe it turns upon how we understand the word. What I mean is that the FBI was accused of treason, of illegal spying, of tapping Mr. Trump's wires illegally, of opening an investigation without justification, of being a criminal conspiracy to unseat, defeat, and then unseat a president.

[Jimmy Dore]

They did all that. They did all that. They did all that. It was a criminal conspiracy to frame the President as a traitor to the country. We all know it was made up. Now, they did that. And you don't have to like Trump again. This is about the rule of law. This is about if they can do this to a sitting president, they'll do it to anybody. They'll do it to Bernie Sanders, they'll do it to Elizabeth Warren, do it to Cornel West. They'll do it to anybody.

[Inspector General Michael Horowitz]

Okay, all of that was nonsense.

[Chris Wallace]

Here's what you said about the FISA process and what the Inspector General Horowitz said this week.

[Inspector General Michael Horowitz]

Take a look at total confidence that the FISA process was followed and that the entire case was handled in a thoughtful, responsible way by DOJ and the FBI.

[Jimmy Dore]

So do you see how he answered that question? Hey, did you guys do everything lawful when it came to the FISA application to get the phone tap for Trump? He didn't say yes. He goes, I have full confidence. That's a guy who knows how to give himself wiggle. Just like Fauci. They know. They know the weasel words and the way to not actually answer a question so they can come back later and he can say something like this. So they did not follow the FISA process. In fact, they lied 17 times to the FISA court to get that phone tap on Donald Trump to start off the Russiagate investigation. And so when they asked the investor, the inspector general, about this, here's what he says.

[Glenn Prager]

Identified significant inaccuracies and omissions in each of the four applications. Seven in the first application and a total of 17 by the final renewal application.

[Jimmy Dore]

So 17 times they lied. So after, After Comey said, I had full confidence. I have full confidence that we follow the rule of law. Watch how he answers this.

[Chris Wallace]

17 significant errors in the FISA process, and you say that it was handled in a thoughtful and appropriate way.

[Inspector General Michael Horowitz]

Yeah, he's right. I was wrong. I was overconfident in the procedures that the FBI and Justice had built over 20 years.

[Jimmy Dore]

He was just too confident. He was just too confident. It wasn't. It was. Oh, you know what? I was overconfident. I'm not lying. I wasn't lying. I was just overconfident.

[Kurt]

The head of the whole thing.

[Jimmy Dore]

The head of.

[Kurt]

Not that cynical. He's a Pollyanna. The guy who leads the entire corrupt organization. That's the guy who's least responsible of anyone.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. So let's watch. There's more.

[Chris Wallace]

Again, here's your version. And again, here's the inspector general.

[Inspector General Michael Horowitz]

My recollection was it was part of a broader mosaic of facts that were laid before the FISA judge to obtain a FISA warrant.

[Glenn Prager]

And what we concluded that the steel reporting played a central and essential role in the decision to seek a FISA order.

[Jimmy Dore]

So they're talking about the Steele dossier. And he said, no, it was just. We didn't rely on the Steele dossier to get the FISA phone taps on Trump. We. It was just part of a mosaic. There was a bunch of things. Well, the inspector general says, no, it was the central thing. That's what you guys use in front of the FISA court was the Steele dossier, which we now know was just opposition research paid for by Hillary Clinton. So now we know this, the Steele dossier was completely made up because Hillary Clinton paid for it and then lied for a year by it, by the way that she did pay for the Steele dossier. And then it came out that she did and she had to kind of she got a slap on the wrist for lying about it for a year to the FBI. So here's the inspector general completely contradicting James Comey.

[Chris Wallace]

Horowitz says it wasn't part, as you told Brett Baer, it wasn't part of a broader mosaic. He said it played an essential in establishing probable cause. In fact, he says if it hadn't been for the Steele dossier, the FBI probably wouldn't have even submitted a FISA application that ensure he and I are saying different things. Well, there is the issue of how reliable the Steele dossier in fact was. On January 6, 2017 in the Trump Tower, you brief Donald Trump president elect about the Steele dossier. That same month, the FBI talks to Steele's main Russian contact, the main person on whom he based the dossier, who says according to the IG report, quote, Steele misstated or exaggerated the primary subsource's statements in multiple sections of the reporting. Director Comey, not only do you fail to go back to the president elect or president after January 20 and tell him, oh, you know that report I briefed you on? Turns out it's bunk. But the fight the FBI can goes back and renews its FISA application three more times and by this point the FBI knows that the steel reporting is not credible. Did you know all of this?

[Inspector General Michael Horowitz]

All of what?

[Chris Wallace]

Everything that we're talking about.

[Jimmy Dore]

All of what? Did you do all this? All of what? What I just told you. So that's a liar. So that's a guy who's lying.

[Kurt]

So was he cheating on Chris Wallace? That's like a cheater does that to.

[Jimmy Dore]

Buy time out here.

[Chris Wallace]

Did you know that in fact the Steele report was the key for probable cause? Did you know that the F had talked to the Russian contact and he said what Steele said he had he had told him was not true? Did you know this? You're the FBI director first.

[Inspector General Michael Horowitz]

Again, the report will speak for itself. I don't believe the FBI concluded that Steele's reporting was bunk after talking to a sub source. But no, I didn't. As the director, you're not kept informed on the details of an investigation. So no, in general, I didn't know what they'd learned from the subsource. I didn't know the particular of the investigation.

[Chris Wallace]

This isn't Some investigation, sir. This is an investigation of the campaign of the man who is the President of the United States. And there is for last, the worst misconduct. In August of 2016, just two weeks into the investigation, the CIA tells the FBI that it actually has a relationship with Carter Page. That when he has these meetings with the Russians, he actually goes back and he tells the CIA about it. But you never tell the FISA court that. And in fact, in 2017, an FBI lawyer doctors a document. The CIA said, oh, Carter Page, he's a source. And he puts in the application, he's not a source.

[Inspector General Michael Horowitz]

Yeah, I got the issue with one of the. I'll answer the question. But one of the predications of your question. The inspector general did not find misconduct by any FBI people. He found mistakes and negligent and oversight.

[Chris Wallace]

No, no, no, that's not true. In the case of Kevin Klein Smith, he has referred it for a criminal investigation.

[Inspector General Michael Horowitz]

Right, but that's not been resolved. This business with the lawyer, changing some email to a partner on the team.

[Chris Wallace]

I mean, you make it sound like it's not much. No, no, it's very important.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's very important.

[Chris Wallace]

Not a source to not a source is a big.

[Inspector General Michael Horowitz]

Remember how we got here? The FBI was accused of criminal misconduct. Remember I was going to jail and lots of other people were going to jail. People on this network said it over and over and over again. The inspector general did not find misconduct by FBI personnel, did not find political bias, did not find illegal conduct. Inspector general found significant mistakes. And that is not something to sneeze at. That's really important. But the American people, especially your viewers, need to realize they were given false information about the FBI. It's honest. It is not political. It is flawed.

[Glenn Prager]

It's unclear what the motivations were. On the one hand, gross incompetence, negligence. On the other hand, intentionality and gross negligence.

[Chris Wallace]

Or they intended to do it. They intended to lie to the FISA court.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's got a blind and every. Chris Wallace dismantled James Comey. Everything he says is contradicted by the inspector general's report. He was lying with the inspector general, just like the President. They lied about the. The Mueller report. When they. They didn't. They said, oh, they can't. They didn't. It didn't exonerate the President. That's not what the report's supposed to do. The report says there's no evidence.

[Kurt]

So then preach. Your bullshit charges you brought against them.

[Jimmy Dore]

Then the press. Then the press repeated it. And James called me. Well, it doesn't exonerate him. Yeah, that's not you. So.

[Kurt]

Yeah, by the way, it does.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's actually. It does. It completely did. And so they had to spin this. So that's what he's doing. And Chris Wallace is just showing him time and time again, oh, he's just a fat, fat liar. And that's what James Comey is.

[Kurt]

Negligence.

[Jimmy Dore]

James Comey is a fat liar. And that's what that is. So this. It's not. So it's either. So the Inspector General's like, well, it's either gross negligence. Gross, not negligence.

[Kurt]

Not good. Not what a good alternative.

[Jimmy Dore]

A gross negligence. Or if they intended to do it. Of course they intended to do it. Of course they did.

[Kurt]

That's everything, Jimmy. Because all the things are gross. They're not gross negligence. All these things. I don't know when people are going to stop clinging to the idea that they're just incompetent. Yeah, that will comfort you. It's on purpose. These are rat fuck bastards.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Kurt]

Work at the top. This is everything going on, or they wouldn't be there.

[Jimmy Dore]

So if you're not sure if James Comey is the biggest. One of the biggest liars you've ever seen in your life. Chris Wallace dismayed him. Everything he said was a lie. And Chris. Chris Wallace easily dismantled him. And these guys are so used to snow, you know, rolling over corporate reporters that he didn't expect Chris Wallace to come at him that. That way with the facts and the truth and the proof that. And evidence that he's lying. And he did. And James Comey. So did you know about this? Know about what? So when he said that, you know, it's over, that he's. He's lying. This is. This is a high school kid lying. Did I know about what?

[Narrator/Reporter]

This government will make a new free of charge digital ID mandatory for the right to work by the end of this parliament. Let me spell that out.

[Kurt]

You will not be able to work in the United Kingdom if you do.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Not have digital id.

[Kurt]

It's as simple as that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Conspiracy theorists proven correct again. Keir Starmer is mandating a digital id. And watch the BS reason he gives you. It's good for you. It's always good for you. Just like the vaccine. It's always good for you.

[Narrator/Reporter]

And that is why today I am announcing this government will make a new free of charge digital ID mandatory for the right to work.

[Jimmy Dore]

Free of charge. Free of charge, Kurt. Free of charge. How royal of you. Like you know the old saying. If at first you don't succeed, just lock the entire country down and take away everyone's rights.

[Kurt]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

So they're making it mandatory by the.

[Narrator/Reporter]

End of this Parliament. Let me spell that out.

[Kurt]

You will not be able to work.

[Narrator/Reporter]

In the United Kingdom if you do not have digital id.

[Kurt]

It's as simple as that.

[Jimmy Dore]

So they're. So they're doing that. Why? Why would you do it like that? You won't be able to.

[Kurt]

Let me spell it out. No one can trade or buy or sell without the mark of.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Kurt]

Literally just said that in different. In a different way.

[Jimmy Dore]

You won't be able to access electricity, you won't be able to buy gas, you won't be able to do anything. You won't be able to get in your bank account. You won't be able to do anything unless you have the mark of the beast, which is the digital id.

[Kurt]

Unreal. Unreal.

[Jimmy Dore]

And he said you won't be able to work, but so they say you won't be able to work because it looks like he's fighting illegal immigration. I'm pretty sure that's not the people. So here we go. Let's watch this. Jeremy Corbyn and Nigel Farage, so far left and far right both agree on this. It's a bad idea. Jeremy Corbyn says, I firmly oppose the government's plans for compulsory digital ID cards. This is an affront to our civil liberties and will make the lives of minorities even more difficult and dangerous. It is excessive state interference and must be resisted. Must be resisted. Here's the far right guy. Nigel Farrah says, I am firmly opposed to Keir Starmer's digital ID cards. It will make no difference to illegal immigration, but it will be used to control and penalize the rest of us. The state should never have this much power. You know who else agrees with those two guys?

[Kurt]

The king. I'm kidding. Obviously not.

[Jimmy Dore]

And you know something is good for you when it's forced on you. That's how you know it's good for you when it's forced on you. Just like the vaccine. Just like. Just like the vaccine. And lockdowns and masks and social distancing when it's forced on you.

[Kurt]

So lock me down, Daddy, that's what I say.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here's the Nurses association from the NHS nurses in the uk. They say we need to send a loud and clear message to Keir Starmer that we do not support mandatory digital ID cards. This is dangerous for everyone in the uk. Oh, they're Crazy conspiracy theorists. The nurses at the National Health Service.

[Kurt]

In the uk, up your sporks and try to do something.

[Jimmy Dore]

England, even the nurses. But you better be careful when you tweet that because that could they. If you send the wrong message, they're just going to send two very attractive police women to your door and arrest you like in a porn for him, like a porn film.

[Kurt]

It's like that's what they got. Police force is a porno movie.

[Jimmy Dore]

New digital ID will be mandatory to work in the uk. Keir Starmer said the new. Can I just show you why this is going to be wrong? Let me get to. Let me skip. I'm going to skip. First of all, I want to show you this. If we get this digital ID system working and the public being with us, that will be the bedrock of the modern state. That was said by Prime Minister's Chief Secretary. This will be the bedrock of the modern state.

[Kurt]

That's not good.

[Jimmy Dore]

And will allow for really quite exciting public service reform in the future. It will also, it says it's going to also offer ordinary citizens countless benefits, Kurt, like being able to prove your identity to access key services swiftly rather than hunting around for an old utility bill.

[Kurt]

I can't do that with my old id.

[Jimmy Dore]

Is it right? You go online first and foremost, the new id, the new ID will, will be held on people's phones. Oh, so what could be. So you'll have your whole life's records on your phone that's easily lost and easily hackable.

[Kurt]

What does China have right now? Anybody know? Do they have this in China? If they don't have this, this is going to be real funny.

[Jimmy Dore]

What could be safer, Kurt, than putting your entire existence on your tiny, easy to lose and even easier to hack phone? Hey, why not just have a yard sale with your tax returns?

[Kurt]

Well, it's in the cloud, Jimmy. It's. It's once. Once you're on digital, they have the record of you to track you forever.

[Jimmy Dore]

So the ella they go, there's going to be no requirement to carry it, but if you want to work, you're going to have to get one. Oh, so just for everybody, it'll be. Yeah, yeah. They began exploring whether the digital ID scheme could reduce the use of fake documents and provide a more consistent approach to verifying workers identity. The government said the rollout would eventually make it simpler to apply for services like driver's licenses, childcare and welfare, as well as the streamlining access to tax records. And as soon as you do something wrong, they flip the switch and they turn off your digital id. So now you can't access your bank, you can't buy gas, you can't pay utilities, you can't get on a flight, you can't travel, you can't work, you can't do anything. Another Labour prime minister, Sir Tony Blair, tried to introduce compulsory ID cards, but the idea was scrapped by the Conservative Lib Dem coalition in 2010. They've been trying to do this.

[Kurt]

Well, looks like it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Let me tell you. Let me tell you why this isn't. This isn't going to work. By the way, they asked the young people. Emily Jenkins, 23, is against digital IDs describe the plan as fascistic and horrible. Ariwan Fox James, 20, says he can see some practical benefits, but is uncomfortable with the idea of a centralized hub of all data. Amy, 22, said she and her friends would welcome having digital IDs on a night out. It's the one thing people forget, but if it's on your phone, people always have that in their hand. But she also worries about data safety. Every time these things get launched, they get hacked. Everyone hacks everything. Of course. Of course.

[Kurt]

Do you know, Jimmy, China got the same thing like five days ago. Did you know that?

[Jimmy Dore]

No.

[Kurt]

And I'm reading on the Hill online, China's Internet ID push signals a new era of digital control.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow.

[Kurt]

China and England. What are the odds?

[Jimmy Dore]

What are the odds? Well, but it's tell you right now why this is a bad idea. And a million. I've already told you. But here's even this guy breaks it down. Chris Littlewood says digital ID for every adult is not progress. It is the end of a free society dressed up as convenience. I'm a cybersecurity specialist and this is my take. They are selling it as a fix for illegal migration. That's bullocks. We spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year on cybersecurity and yet the volume of breaches is breaking records. The threat is growing faster than they spend. So this idea that you could do this cyber in a cyber way is BS because he's saying they spend billion, hundreds of billions on cybersecurity and they get breaches and hacks every day. Digital ID will not stop boats, boats of immigrants they made it will not stop trafficking gangs. It will not fix a broken border. Criminals will work around it. Honest citizens are going to pay the price. It builds giant data banks that track where you go, what you buy, what you read and what you who you speak to. It tracks all that. It links your Identity to every checkpoint in daily life. One breach and your entire life is exposed. Look at Jaguar, Land Rover and the airports in recent weeks. Now imagine that a national scale on an. On an ID system tied to everything you need to live your daily life. Here's the risk that ministers will not admit. Ransomware seeded through a supplier or an insider. It lies quiet for months on your phone. It rolls through backups on trigger day. The register and the recovery sets are both encrypted.

[Kurt]

What?

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's saying on the day they want to trigger it. The register and the recovery sets are both encrypted.

[Kurt]

So what does that mean?

[Jimmy Dore]

So that I, I. That. That means that they have control of your phone. It's encrypted. That's what I take it to mean. I'm not a cyber guy. Payments fail, so your payments then fail. Ah, your health and benefits stall the borders slow. Citizens are frozen out until a ransom is paid or the state rebuilds it from scratch. Centralized identity and you centralize failure. So now people, they don't have to hack into people's individual phone. They can just hack into the central data hub and shut everything down for ransom. Do not fall for the pitch function. Creep is certain. It starts at at law as login. It becomes access to money, travel, speech and public services. It turns rights into permissions controlled by the state and its contractors. It creates a single point of failure for criminals, insiders and hostile states to target. It will punish the elderly, the poor and anyone who is not always online. It will centralize risk and outsource blame. It will not stop fraud. It will not stop illegal migration. It will build the machinery for a social credit system by stealth. If ministers cared about the border, they would enforce current laws. Resource patrols and processing, close loopholes and remove those with no right to stay. You do not need a national ID to do any of that. We scrapped ID cards in 2010 for a reason. Britain does not need a central register to prove age or status. Yes to privacy for first proofs, no to a database state. I'm with that guy 100%.

[Kurt]

Does he not get it's on purpose? It's not a mistake. A terrible mistake they're making. Yeah, they know all the things he's describing are why they're doing it.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's why they're doing.

[Kurt]

They're doing it for that on purpose. And there ain't shit you're going to do about it because you're going to be armed with a spoon or something.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's just letting people know this is what's going to happen. If they get to institute that stuff, that's what's going to happen. So they tell you it's for convenience. They tell you it's for stopping illegal migration. They say it's for all this. You don't need that to do any of that stuff. But you do need it if you want to have complete control over everybody.

[Kurt]

And be able to deport natives of England soon. I can't wait for that. Where they're like people born there are being deported from England.

[Jimmy Dore]

You do need this if you want to unperson someone, if you want.

[Kurt]

China has it for that reason.

[Jimmy Dore]

And now China at the same time.

[Kurt]

Is that interesting? In China and them, every time you hear a dummy talking about the commies and this and that, it's the Fabians, the Fabian Society, who is behind that. Their banner is a wolf. The oldest think tank in all of Europe is called the Fabian Society and it's really just feudalism. But they wanted to incrementally sneak in socialism. It's not Marxism. It's their own British colonial thing. And the whole idea H.G. wells was into it is, you know, what we have now, a bunch of tech technocracy. And then they'll dole out what you're allowed to have and what water you can use to wash your car and all that. And it's been around. It's the oldest think tank, the oldest one. It's probably the first one Fabians. That's what this is. And I think their plan, they're rushing it now because. Did you hear Keir Stormy, the urgency in his voice?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, yeah. You want to hear it again? I'll play it for you one more time. And as I. Right before I play, I'll remind you I'll come see me in Hermosa Beach, San Francisco and Sacramento. Go to Jimmy Dore.com for a link for tickets. That's next week. Here it is.

[Narrator/Reporter]

And that is why today I am announcing this government will make a new free of charge digital ID mandatory for the right to work by the end of this parliament. Let me spell that out.

[Kurt]

You will not be able to work in the United Kingdom if you do.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Not have digital id.

[Kurt]

It's as simple as that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay? Yes, there's a. There definitely is a sense of urgency. And let's keep in mind everybody disagrees with it. Far left, far right and the nurses association and everybody else who has a thinking brain is against this.

[Kurt]

Do you know what? This is where he's at the. It's the global world leaders of a worried global center left discuss ways to fight back. So he's there with Mark Carney and shit. So this is all those assholes. There's all the fucking kind of WEF people.

[Jimmy Dore]

This is, this is the WEF globalists. This is their idea. And Keir Starmer is 100% one of them. Mark Carney in Canada is 100% one of them. Everybody's one of them. Macron is one of them. They're all one of them. They're all.

[Kurt]

This is not the New York Times, Jimmy. What fickle voters, stagnant economies and polarizing debate over immigration have left center left governments vulnerable to right wing populace. That's why you're getting your digital id.

[Jimmy Dore]

Anything they don't like, they call right wing. So if, if that they don't want you to have free speech and you're for free speech. They say that's a right wing free speech. Oh yeah.

[Kurt]

Populism is inherently right wing, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

You're a free speech absolutist. They'll say if you're for my body, my choice, which is usually a left wing thing. They'll now say that's right wing. And you know you're supposed to be pro abortion, not my body, my choice, not bodily autonomy. So no matter what they, that they want, however they want to control you, they call it. They call whatever you're doing right wing. That's the thing.

[Kurt]

Well, that's the purpose of coming up with a nonsense concept like what wing are. You notice how we all go along with that? Yes, Ironic idea. And they got fighting within your cage already. Are you right or left wing? Why are we doing a thing from the French Revolution still from, from Robespierre? Why is that still a thing? Oh, we don't know anything else. They had you. This is why I don't buy karaoke. They can't do mind control. What are you talking about? They do it. They still do it. You ever hear a basic training?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. I wish we had a little more time to go over that with him because it's. They believe me. If there. What he even said. Anyway, if there's one thing they haven't stopped, it's mind control. I'll tell you that. It's one thing they haven't stopped.

[Kurt]

Society's based on it. What do you like? That's why we have influencers and thought leaders. They call them thought leaders.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's my why. That's why they paid all those people to push the vax during COVID All those Social influencers. That's mind control, that's what that is.

[Kurt]

I'll bet you that's why they're giving those pregnant chicks influencers money to pop Tylenol on video.

[Jimmy Dore]

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