“CBS Was Right To Cancel Colbert!” – Jon Stewart

Summary

Podcast Summary: "CBS Was Right To Cancel Colbert!" – Jon Stewart

Podcast Information:

• Title: The Jimmy Dore Show
• Host: Jimmy Dore
• Episode: “CBS Was Right To Cancel Colbert!” – Jon Stewart
• Release Date: July 25, 2025
• Description: “Jimmy Dore is outrageous and outraged, bothersome and bothered, a crucial, profane, passionate voice for progressives and freethinkers in 21st century America.” -Patton Oswalt

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1. Introduction to the Episode

The episode centers around Jon Stewart's reaction to CBS's decision to cancel Stephen Colbert's show. Jimmy Dore and his co-hosts delve into the reasons behind the cancellation, critiquing Stewart's interpretation and exploring broader themes of media control and political influence.

2. Jon Stewart’s Reaction to Colbert’s Cancellation

Jimmy Dore initiates the discussion by addressing Jon Stewart’s claims regarding the cancellation of Stephen Colbert’s show.

• Dore (01:02): “Jon Stewart reacted to Stephen Colbert being canceled on CBS and you know it was not canceled.”

Stewart argues that CBS canceled Colbert due to financial losses, a point that Dore and his guests contest.

• Dore (01:45): “So now he, because that's, that's what CBS is saying, that they're canceling him because the show's losing tens of millions of dollars.”

3. Financial Reasons vs. Political Fear

The conversation highlights the tension between financial viability and political motivations behind network decisions.

• Dore (02:32): “So you know what you do when you're, you have a show that's losing money, you cancel that show. What's that, Kurt it's not pbs. Yeah, it's not pbs. This is commercial broadcasting. It's asked to turn a profit.”

Jon Stewart attempts to pivot the reason for the cancellation towards CBS fearing backlash from President Trump.

• Kurt Metzger (08:07): “CBS didn't try to save their number one rated network late night franchise...”

4. Decline of Late Night Formats

Dore draws parallels between the decline of traditional late-night shows and outdated business models like Blockbuster and Tower Records.

• Dore (03:18): “This is a failed platform. This is a failed style of doing comedy. This is. It's over. We, we are a blockbuster.”

• Tulsi Gabbard (05:35): “Up to 800 per line via virtual prepaid card typically takes 15 days.”

5. Media Control and Russiagate Conspiracy

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the so-called "Russiagate" conspiracy, with Dore and guests arguing that it was a fabricated narrative to influence public opinion.

• Dore (08:02): “After every media outlet pushed Russiagate and every lie possible about the lawfare. January 6th. Covid, everything OK, here we go.”

• Tulsi Gabbard (34:24): “We have referred and will continue to refer all of these documents to the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate the criminal implications...”

6. Critique of Media Bias and Censorship

The hosts criticize the media for suppressing dissenting voices and promoting biased narratives, regardless of the administration in power.

• Dore (26:44): “They've already censored. They deplatformed. They Took their advertising. They've already done all that. He’s acting like this is new under Trump. This is not new.”

• Mike McRae (25:31): “They want a partisan Joe Rogan who is a puppet that follows.”

7. Epstein Files and Congressional Transparency

The episode also touches upon the controversy surrounding the Epstein files, with discussions on legislative efforts to release these documents and the political maneuvering hindering transparency.

• Tulsi Gabbard (33:50): “New evidence has emerged of the most egregious weaponization and politicization of intelligence in American history.”

• Mike Johnson (55:39): “We have a moral responsibility to expose the evil of Epstein. And everybody was involved in that.”

8. Conclusion and Final Remarks

Jimmy Dore wraps up the episode by reinforcing his stance on media manipulation and institutional control, while also promoting his upcoming live shows.

• Dore (61:00): “So there are good jokes to be made about this and if you'd like to hear some of them, August 3rd, I'll be in Oxnard, California...”

Notable Quotes:

• Jimmy Dore (01:02): “Jon Stewart reacted to Stephen Colbert being canceled on CBS and you know it was not canceled.”

• Kurt Metzger (04:17): “But when your industry is faced with changes, you don't just call it a day.”

• Tulsi Gabbard (34:42): “Do you believe President Obama is guilty of treason?”

• Mike Johnson (55:53): “We have a moral responsibility to expose the evil of Epstein. And everybody was involved in that.”

• Jimmy Dore (22:50): “Okay, a good joke. So the jokes are good, but the jokes are that it has to be based in truth...”

Key Takeaways:

• Financial Justifications vs. Political Motivations: The hosts argue that financial losses, not political fears, are the true reasons behind CBS canceling Stephen Colbert's show.

• Media Manipulation: They contend that narratives like Russiagate are fabricated to manipulate public opinion and serve institutional agendas.

• Call for Transparency: There's a strong emphasis on the need for transparency, especially concerning sensitive issues like the Epstein files and intelligence assessments.

• Critique of Established Media: The episode criticizes mainstream media for suppressing dissent, promoting biased content, and failing to adapt to changing audience preferences.

Conclusion

In this episode, Jimmy Dore and his co-hosts provide a critical analysis of Jon Stewart's portrayal of CBS's decision to cancel Stephen Colbert. They delve into broader issues of media control, political manipulation, and the need for greater transparency in governmental and institutional actions. Through sharp critiques and pointed discussions, the hosts challenge mainstream narratives and advocate for a more truthful and accountable media landscape.

Transcript

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[Jimmy Dore]

Come see us in Oxnard, California, Rutherford, New Jersey, Manhattan, New York, Edmonton, Calgary, Vancouver, Appleton, Wisconsin Rosemont and Chicago, Illinois. Go to Jimmy Dore.com for a link for tickets.

[Kurt Metzger]

Establishment media sucks August lighting.

[Jimmy Dore]

So good luck.

[Kurt Metzger]

Bullshit. We can't afford fomenting this watch and see as his jack off the medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's the chim. So Jon Stewart reacted to Stephen Colbert being canceled on CBS and you know it was not canceled. Is Jimmy Dore is coming to Oxnard, California, August 3rd. That's a Sunday. And then we're going to Rutherford, New Jersey and Manhattan, New York at the Village Underground. Go to Jimmy Dore.com for link for tickets. But here he is. Here's Jon Stewart reacting to that. Jon Stewart is reacting and it's pretty pathetic in a lot of different ways. So let's play some of it and let's hope that we don't get. We hope, we hope this stays monetized because a lot of times Stephen has.

[Kurt Metzger]

Been canceled for purely financial reasons.

[Jimmy Dore]

So now he, because that's, that's what CBS is saying, that they're canceling him because the show's losing tens of millions of dollars. That's what they say.

[Mike McRae]

Now that face he's making, is that the face you make instead of laughing when you watch Colbert?

[Jimmy Dore]

So, so, but watch how he contradicts himself. I mean, so Jon Stewart saying that's not true because that's what that is. I think that's true. Then watch. He contradicts himself.

[Kurt Metzger]

And by the way, not just Steven's show. CBS has canceled the entirety of the Late show franchise.

[Jimmy Dore]

Gone.

[Kurt Metzger]

Now I acknowledge losing money. Late night TV is.

[Jimmy Dore]

He just said now I acknowledge they're losing money.

[Mike McRae]

It's going now what?

[Jimmy Dore]

So you know what you do when you're, you have a show that's losing money, you cancel that show. What's that, Kurt it's not pbs. Yeah, it's not pbs. This is commercial broadcasting. It's asked to turn a profit. And he's even going to go on to explain to you that yes, the whole genre is dying.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, watch this struggling financial model. We are all basically operating a blockbuster kiosk inside of a Tower Records.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's admitting that this is a failed platform. This is a failed style of doing comedy. This is. It's over. We, we are a blockbuster. What's that?

[Mike McRae]

The election should have told him that. That their format of liberal boo hoosing is not working out.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's the word I was looking for. This format is tired. It's old and it doesn't work anymore.

[Mike McRae]

It doesn't. Who cares about your suit and your Johnny Carson shit? I mean, I don't care about any of that.

[Jimmy Dore]

And, and, and, and Stephen Colbert gets less viewers in the demo than this show.

[Mike McRae]

I used to love his show on Comedy Central. Dude, I liked it better than Jon Stewart show by a mile.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, his old show. So what? So he's. So he's there is. At first he's trying to say it's not because of money, but now he's admitting, yeah, let's lose the show. He said admittedly it's losing money. That I didn't make that up. I heard him say it. And now he's saying that our format is like a blockbuster inside of a Tower Records. Those are two companies that don't exist anymore because they. But listen to what he says. Listen to this. It's a good joke.

[Kurt Metzger]

But when your industry is faced with changes, you don't just call it a day. My God, when CDs stopped selling, they didn't just go, oh well, music, it's been a good run. The fact that CBS didn't try to save their number one rated network late night franchise that's been on the air for over three decades is part of what's making everybody wonder was this.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's saying, well, when people stopped buying CDs, they didn't just stop trying to sell music. No, when people stop watching that format of comedy, they move on to a new format of comedy. So what? No. So what they're doing is. So Stephen Colbert is the CD in that analogy. Stephen Colbert is the CD. People aren't buying the CDs anymore. You stop producing CDs. People aren't buying that format of Stephen Colbert's comedy. You stop producing that format of comedy. That's. So he's cut. So there isn't a logical Consistency to what he's saying he's making. He's making what?

[Mike McRae]

He just said it was top rated on cbs.

[Jimmy Dore]

He said it was the number one late night show, which I don't think it is.

[Mike McRae]

Not closed.

[Jimmy Dore]

Greg Gutfeld. Greg Gutfeld beats all of them. Right, Kurt? You know that. So that's not true. He keeps saying the number one rated, it's Greg Gutfeld destroys them on their channel.

[Mike McRae]

I don't know how it could be that. But what's he number one rated in. Oh, out of late night.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, Greg Gutfeld is late night, right?

[Mike McRae]

Oh, yeah. I don't know what the hell he's talking about. You're right.

[Jimmy Dore]

Gutfeld, he actually developed a new format. Greg Gutfeld has a new format and it's killing. It's a. It's a killer format. It's kill. And he's. Could you look up Greg Gutfeld's ratings? So do you see all the mental gymnastics that Jon Stewart's putting himself through to try to defend? And so now he's going to make it out that CBS canceled Stephen Colbert because they're afraid of Trump and that. And that.

[Mike McRae]

Would you be afraid of him, you scumbag?

[Jimmy Dore]

Wouldn't be the last time that the, that the broadcasters were afraid of the government. Remember Howard Stern being fined constantly. You remember that? That's why you had to go to satellite radio.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

Okay, so I got this gut feel. Averaged 3.1 million viewers through July 20th compared to 1.9 million for Late Night with CBS, show with Colbert.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's getting 50% bigger ratings. Greg Gutfeld.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

Jimmy Kimmel gets 1.5 million. And Jimmy Fallion, so he gets 100%.

[Jimmy Dore]

Higher ratings than Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel gets 1.5million. He gets 3.1 million. Isn't that 100% more?

[Tulsi Gabbard]

And Jimmy Fallon's 1.1. And Seth Meyers, your favorite, 751,000.

[Jimmy Dore]

Seth Meyers is fantastic. Nobody can tell me that you're gonna tell me people don't like bland, boring white guys with no personality giving them comedy in the late night. That show should be on that. Not only should that not be on at late night, that should be out at 6 in the morning, that show.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah, it's a real Martha's Vineyard area.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. So. So now he. So now Jon Stewart's gonna make the case that this is all about Trump and CBS being afraid of Trump, as they should be.

[Mike McRae]

All of you should be afraid. I don't want you not being afraid of Trump, you punks. On these channels that did do your job for the last time. For many years, I wanted Trump to put you in camp, if I'm being honest.

[Jimmy Dore]

So after every media outlet pushed Russiagate and every lie possible about the lawfare. January 6th. Covid, everything OK, here we go. Watch this.

[Kurt Metzger]

Purely financial or maybe the path of least resistance for your $8 billion merger.

[Jimmy Dore]

What's killing so he's saying that this isn't now after saying it is financial. They're losing money. Now he's saying this is because there's going to be a merger. Right. So there's this guy, what is it called? Skynet or whatever, this company is going to acquire Paramount, which owns cbs. So it's again, instead of taking this as an opportunity to make fun of Bill Clinton and satirize him for consolidating the media with the Telecommunications act in 1996, which took us from 50 giant media companies down to six. Yeah, that would, that would be what this would be for. Right. But instead of doing that, he turns it against Trump, not against Bill Clinton, not haranguing Bill Clinton for the guy who set all this in motion that he should have.

[Mike McRae]

Springsteen, Democrat. Yeah, the thing there is the most fake working man, bullshit hackery kind of politics there are besides Bono. The only thing worse is Bono.

[Jimmy Dore]

So now he's saying that because they want a merger, he's afraid that Trump's White House, which is I guess appoints the fcc, Federal Communications Commission, have to approve the merger, which of course they're going to. That that's why they're doing it. So it'll make it easier for them to have that merger go through if they get rid of the Stephen Colbert, which is critical. Every goddamn show is critical of Trot. That's why it doesn't make sense. So here we go.

[Kurt Metzger]

Show that, you know, rankled a fragile and vengeful president so insecure, suffering terribly from a case of chronic penis insufficiency.

[Jimmy Dore]

I mean it's just. I get it.

[Mike McRae]

Israelis like him now.

[Jimmy Dore]

What's that?

[Mike McRae]

Israel likes Trump now. Israel switched to Trump. So that's why this the merger in all the media companies. Jon Stewart, you don't know that the Zionists are backing Trump because he's letting them do their. Yeah, their genocide. That's what that's about. At the end of the day, don't like he's trying to keep it like it's just about Trump or whatever. We've already learned there's a genocide going on and their intel thing controls our whole government, John. And I know John Sewer has commented on this a little bit, even if he'd never have the balls to call it out for what it is. He has talked about a little bit, hasn't he?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, he has talked about the. Yeah, a little bit. You're right. So here we go. So here he is doing cheap insults about Trump having a small penis, which I'm not above doing, but I just think it certainly should be beneath him.

[Kurt Metzger]

I believe CBS lost the benefit of the doubt two weeks prior when they sold out their flagship news program to pay an extortion fee to said president.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's saying that now his. Now he's flat out making the argument that CBS is doing this because they're afraid of Donald Trump. And it's not about that. Stephen Colbert, who, by the way, takes 200 people to produce that show. You know how many people it takes to produce this show? I don't know. Five, six. I don't know. Maybe at. When we're at full bore. 7.

[Mike McRae]

Where's the intel people to run the show?

[Jimmy Dore]

The other thing he has 190. What's that?

[Mike McRae]

60 Minutes, the flagship show. Intel propaganda crap. So what happened is a new regime came in. And the problem with aligning with the CIA, such as Colbert does.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right? Yes.

[Mike McRae]

Oh, shush, Claire Danes. Don't bring up the CIA runs your everything. Remember that?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Mike McRae]

So now a new power came in and John Brennan's out.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Mike McRae]

Now the CIA is going to go with the other administration. That's why you don't get involved with the fucking CIA, asshole.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. So here we go. And he. So he's saying that 60 Minutes, CBS, that. So Trump sued over them selectively editing Kamala Harris's interview to make her look better. So Trump decided to sue them over that saying. That's. I don't know if he's saying that's election interference or whatever. It certainly was dishonest. We covered it here in real time when it happened. And I think CBS even had to come out and apologize and reveal. Anyway, the point is Trump already sued ABC and won. They sued ABC when George Nuffalupagus made some salacious accusations against Donald Trump, saying he was convicted in a court of law, of grape. I don't want to say the word because I don't. I don't want to get this demonetized. And. And so they had to pay him $15 million. So they already. So ABC already knew they were dead to rights, didn't want to go to court. They paid him. So CBS did the same thing. They're like, you know what? We don't need the bad press of it being revealed what we actually did. So we're going to go ahead and pay. It'd be, it'd be easier to pay this and get it off instead of going through a very high profile court case that reveals our bad journalism values. That's what CBS decided to do. It was a smart move for CBS to do that. Jon Stewart now says, no, that is proof that this is being done because they're afraid of Donald Trump and hey.

[Mike McRae]

Dummies, the whole news was afraid of the Biden. Remember we had.

[Jimmy Dore]

They wouldn't tell you. Joe Biden was demented for four years. You don't think they were afraid of them?

[Mike McRae]

Yeah, I'm just like, oh, it's a nothing burger that we've been suppressing minor accounts on Twitter. Yes, that went against Joe Biden. And NBC was, I mean, like they were all in on it. You don't think that the table's gonna turn on you.

[Jimmy Dore]

So.

[Mike McRae]

Especially on a loser like Colbert.

[Jimmy Dore]

So. So watch this.

[Kurt Metzger]

At that time, poor Andy Rooney must have been rolling over in his bed. That's right. He's alive.

[Jimmy Dore]

Did you know Andy Rooney? That to me, that's the biggest news story from this whole segment. Is Andy Rooney still alive? What did you say, Kurt?

[Mike McRae]

That's pretty funny.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Andy Rooney is alive. I probably buried the lead on this entire bit. Andy Rooney is alive.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, you did. So, so then Jon Stewart decides to go into this. Wait here, let me.

[Kurt Metzger]

I understand the corporate fear. I understand the fear that you and your advertisers have with $8 billion at stake. But understand this truly, the shows that you now seek to cancel, censor and control. A not insignificant portion of that $8 billion value came from those fucking shows. That's what made you that money.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. And so now those shows don't make money anymore. So now they have to replace them with new shows that make them money. What? What is this? How hard is this to understand how TV works?

[Mike McRae]

As a guy that made 50 million from iTunes with his old show, he didn't want to do supposedly you don't know how money, how wide.

[Jimmy Dore]

Now he's pretending to not understand how this. Just like he pretended to not understand how New York real estate worked when Trump was being have lawfare against him for his real estate dealings. He's now pretending he doesn't know that. Doesn't. Yes.

[Mike McRae]

So he was guilty of crimes himself.

[Jimmy Dore]

There was a. Yeah, exactly, Right. There was a time when the CBS Late show made money for cbs, it doesn't make that money anymore. So they're supposed to just keep funding a losing show because.

[Mike McRae]

Because value. Because it had any value. It existed before. He didn't create a great show right on. On cbs. I love the old show. But on that show he came into a thing that was established.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. Ran into the ground and turned it into a Partizan hack fest.

[Mike McRae]

And just following orders, I'll give him that. But nobody wants to hear those orders no more.

[Jimmy Dore]

All right, here we go.

[Kurt Metzger]

Shows that shows that take a stand.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's saying shows that say something. Shows that take a stand. You mean like how you didn't take a stand on the Ukraine war? Mean like how you didn't take a stand on Covid and you lied about it at every turn? You mean how you didn't take a stand on the vaccine. In fact, instead you brought on four vaccine liars. You mean you didn't take a stand when you hung a medal on a legit Nazi? You mean like that kind of stand you didn't take. How about when you didn't take a stand on Russia Gate and tell people the truth that this DNC server was not hacked by Russia? How about that? I was able to do that with my five, six employees here. Uh, so what kind of a stand are you talking about? A lemonade stand? Because you're for sale now.

[Kurt Metzger]

Those that are unafraid and not to believe me. This is not a. We speak truth to power. We don't. We speak opinions to television cameras. But we try. We fucking try.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, you don't. You effing don't try. Because if you tried, you would have tried to tell people the truth about the Ukraine war and how Russiagate. And you can draw a straight line between Russiagate and the people being for the Ukraine war in the United States. You would have told them that. You would have told them that the Ukraine war is just as big as lies. The Iraq war was just as big as lie. The Afghanistan war was just as big as lies. You would have told them the truth about Syria and the gas attacks. You would have told them the truth about Libya. You didn't tell them truth about any of that stuff.

[Mike McRae]

You.

[Jimmy Dore]

You don't take a stand and you don't try at all. You do the low hanging fruit and you do the easy stuff. And that's why I don't respect Jon Stewart anymore. I respect him for his comedic chops and that he invented a new style of comedy tip of the hat. He should be in the TV hall of fame for that. But don't pretend that you try because you don't try.

[Mike McRae]

And Condoleezza, I know he didn't want to do the interview, but.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Mike McRae]

I would love to do that interview. I talk right in Hillary's crazy psycho, whatever they said she is face and Kundalini's dumb. Like, why are you two lizards killing everyone all the time and acting like it's cool?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. I mean, how hard were you trying when you interviewed two of the biggest blood soaked, massacring, war mongering, maniacs of my lifetime, Condoleezza Rice and Hillary Clinton? How hard did you try during that interview? How hard did you try when you brought on four vaccine liars onto your show to push the fake false Covid narrative? How hard did you try then? How hard did you try when you pinned a medal on a Nazi? How hard were you trying then? You weren't trying hard. So that's what this, that's what drives me crazy how he gets to pretend that he's trying hard every night.

[Kurt Metzger]

And if you believe as corporations or as networks, you can make yourselves so innocuous that you can serve a gruel so flavorless that you will never again be on the boy king's radar. A why will anyone watch you? And you are fucking wrong. You.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's saying that CBS is now going to water down their content and why would anybody want to watch them? I would say the same thing about your show. Nobody watches the Daily show anymore. They only watch it when you're on. And they only watch it when you're on because you have comedy chops and because they're partisan.

[Mike McRae]

How do you water down water?

[Jimmy Dore]

They don't write. How do you water down water again? Stephen Colbert did a dance with the vaccine. He came out and did a dance number with the vaccine. You guys aren't trying. If you were trying, you would have been doing what we did at this show and tried to show that if you're going to DO Lawfare against January 6th and Donald Trump and if you're going to put Russiagate against the sitting president and call him treason and say he's a traitor, that they can do that to anybody who stands up against the establishment, that would have been you trying. You didn't try.

[Mike McRae]

Well, they didn't try to do what I would have wanted to do. But he did try really hard, as hard as he could, not to offend the establishment too much. Of course, he suspected they were wrong. So that does take effort.

[Kurt Metzger]

Do you want to know how impossible it is to say on Lord Saquon's.

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Good side, he will sue the Wall Street Journal and its owner, Rupert Murdoch, who also owns Fox News?

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's going to say, you know how hard it is. So he's saying that CBS is doing all this to try to stay on Trump's good side. And he's saying, you know, hard it is. He's even suing Fox News. You know why he's suing Fox News or Rupert Murdoch? Because of the Wall Street Journal published that letter that was like a love letter between him and Jeffrey Epstein. Trump says that's a fake letter. Now, after Russiagate and the fake pee tape and the fake dossier, the Steele dossier and the fake Russian everything and the fake bank things and all the fake, I would have to give Trump the benefit of the doubt here and say that's probably also fake, not fake.

[Mike McRae]

It doesn't reveal anything and it doesn't reveal it. Literally nothing.

[Jimmy Dore]

So. And now Trump's two for two ensuing people he's been lied about. I mean, again, you don't have to like Donald Trump. You can hate Donald Trump and also hate the fact that the media has to make up stuff about him, because that's what they've been doing for 10 years. There's a lot of stuff that you could criticize Trump about. In fact, they don't ever criticize him about the real stuff he should be criticized for. They most oftentimes invent stuff like Russiagate to criticize him or his small penis or his real estate deals or his pee tape or his fake pee tape.

[Mike McRae]

Let's say they found a tape that he went to a hotel room and watched hooker's pee on a bed Obama slept in. Is that the tape that we're talking about?

[Jimmy Dore]

That's the tape.

[Mike McRae]

Who gives a shit?

[Jimmy Dore]

So that. So that's why. So he's saying. So his whole case here is that you can't stay on Trump's good side because, look, he's even suing Fox News and Rupert Murdoch.

[Kurt Metzger]

Donald Trump is suing Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News, the man of the Biden maybe most responsible for getting Trump. Fox. I called himself right in there.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Fox spends 24 hours a day blowing Trump and it's not enough. Imagine suing someone mid blow.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, a good joke.

[Kurt Metzger]

Finish up, finish up down there and I'll sign.

[Jimmy Dore]

So these are all good jokes. So the jokes are good, but the jokes are that it has to be based in truth, which is what Gives it that extra oomph. And this is all based on a lie that Jon Stewart has propagated.

[Mike McRae]

Is this idiot still pushing that Kamala Harris was qualified to do anything, but I'm sure giggle in a corner.

[Kurt Metzger]

I mean, so here's the point, here's.

[Jimmy Dore]

The point, here's the point.

[Kurt Metzger]

You're trying to figure out why Steven's show is ending. I don't think the answer can be found in some smoking gun email or phone call from Trump to CBS executives or in CBS's Quickbook spreadsheets on the financial health of late night.

[Jimmy Dore]

He says, I don't think you're going to be able to find a smoking gun email as to why they're really canceling him. You know why? Because it probably doesn't exist. How about that? You know, just like Russiagate, there was no there there. The Mueller report. We don't have any evidence. So this is, this feels very much Russia gated to me. Oh, we just know it has to be true, right? We just know it has to be true.

[Mike McRae]

Look, if there was enough of you for it to make a difference, the smear that they're doing to pretend that Colbert should have been canceled a long time ago. There's not enough people watching the show to pull that off just for. Nobody likes that asshole. The people like him all live near Jon Stewart.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, here we go.

[Kurt Metzger]

The answer is in the fear and pre compliance that is gripping all of America's institutions at this very moment. Institutions that have chosen not to fight the vengeful and vindictive actions of our pubic hair doodling commander in chief. This is not the moment to give in. I'm not giving in. I'm not going anywhere.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's not giving in. Yeah, well, you gave in during COVID You gave in during Russiagate. You gave in during the Ukraine war. As I've said million times on this show, Jon Stewart will never tell his audience the truth about the Ukraine war ever. He will never tell you that. He'll never tell you the truth about COVID The biggest fascist moment we're ever going to live through forced medical experiments. Forced to take a medical experiment or you can't go to work and feed your family, or you can't go to school, or you can't go to college and get a degree. Fake, forced medic. That is Nazi stuff. He'll never tell you the truth about that. So this thing, and the one thing he is right about is that institutions always knuckle under the government. They've always done it since before Nixon when he got the Smothers Brothers canceled. They've always knuckled under.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

You know, I just want to weigh in on this situation. The whole idea that I got a. From sign a petition regarding Stephen Colbert. From move on. Sign a petition so he can keep his show.

[Jimmy Dore]

And I want to say why you don't watch it?

[Tulsi Gabbard]

Are you acting as if there's no choice for him? Why does it YouTube.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's another thing I want to say to Jon Stewart. Jon Stewart, just like Blockbuster Video went away and Tower Records went away and the CD went away. Stephen Colbert's format's going away. What's to stop Stephen Colbert or you from going on doing a show on YouTube like. Like I do or Joe. The biggest, most popular show right now is Joe Rogan. Why can't you do a show like that? Or Tim Dillon or Theo Vaughn. These shows are. Andrew show. All these shows are very popular. Tucker Carlson.

[Mike McRae]

Tucker Carlson.

[Jimmy Dore]

Tucker Carlson doesn't need.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

Well, it's because they don't want. They need 200 people to produce their shows.

[Jimmy Dore]

Tucker Carlson doesn't have 200 people producing his show, and he gets way better ratings than Stephen Colbert.

[Mike McRae]

I'll tell you why they can't, Jimmy. Because they all feel, without being told, just like what's his name said, they don't got to be told. They all feel like they got to contribute to the propaganda for their party like that prick Mike Johnson does for Republicans.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Mike McRae]

Looking for a Joe Rogan. But when they say that there's already a liberal Joe Rogan. There's already there. But what they want is a liberal Joe Rogan who is a puppet that follows.

[Jimmy Dore]

Who is a partisan. They want a partisan Joe Rogan.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, Here, I think so. To those institutions, to those corporations and advertisers and universities and law firms, all of them. If you still think that bending the knee to Trump will save you, I have one thing.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, they bent. They bent the knee to the Biden administration and they and all the advertisers censored everybody. They did the Adpocalypse on YouTube. They did that. And then they also censored everybody who had a counternarrative when it came to Ukraine, a counternarrative when it came to his dementia and counter. When it came to the vaccine or lockdowns or masks or ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine or social distancing or contraction or any of that stuff. They already did that. They censored. They deplatformed. They Took their advertising. They've already done all that. He's acting like this is new under Trump. This is not new. This is how advertisers in the establishment and the media and so that's how they all act. Always. They've always acted that way.

[Mike McRae]

That was great. He thought it was great to get deplatformed when you don't have the right politics.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Mike McRae]

He was for that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Remember when AOC said deplatforming works? Do you remember she said when a Tucker Carlson got fired from Fox News? And again, remember he got fired for telling the truth about the Ukraine war and the end the COVID He didn't get fired for lying about the Iraq war. When he got lied about the Iraq war, they could. They lined up to give him a show. But when he started telling the truth about the Ukraine war and the Syrian war is when they had to fire him. So. And then AOC said the platforming works.

[Mike McRae]

So are you, mother.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. So here.

[Kurt Metzger]

I know you're scared.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here he does a number.

[Kurt Metzger]

I know you're weary I know your plans don't include me but these are troubled times so sack the fuck up.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's yelling at corporations to grow a spine. And he says, sack. Sack the f up. That's his way of saying have a. Have some balls and stand up to the President. That's what he's trying to say. After he said this was after he admitted that Stephen Colbert shows losing money and that it's as out of fashion as CDs were and blockbuster Video and Tower Records. And he's saying that you should now grow a spine and stand up to the President. They never do that. They never said. They've never done that. They've never told the truth about any war in my lifetime, including you, Jon Stewart. You won't tell the truth about Ukraine or Syria anyway.

[Mike McRae]

So this is a better plan for the corporations. Why don't you cozy up to Israel how you do? And then Israel tell Trump what he has to do. How about that?

[Jimmy Dore]

So, hey, maybe CBS is going to replace his show with a version of Pin the Tail on the Donkey. I maybe we'll call it Pin the Metal on the Nazi. You ever think about that?

[Mike McRae]

Yeah, that's a great idea for a show.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he goes into a number. Now watch this. So then he goes into a number. You want to hear his number? Here's his number. Oh, wait, did I lose it? Here it is, Steven, go yourself. Wait, wait, wait.

[Kurt Metzger]

Bring it down, bring it down. Let's bring it down.

[Jimmy Dore]

Little bit. Quiet.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yourself.

[Jimmy Dore]

Just go yourself.

[Kurt Metzger]

Everybody.

[Mike McRae]

Fuck.

[Jimmy Dore]

Fuck everybody. So now, I'm not against that type of humor, but what I am against is that that's built on a false premise, which is why it doesn't have the oomph. It's just partisan pablum that he's pushing buttons on his audience and he thinks it's ballsy to do a song where he says the F word over, over, and tells you to go F yourself and sack up. And when he knows that's not how the game works, that they never have sacked up. They've always. They're the establishment. They're not some people fighting against the powerful. They are the powerful.

[Mike McRae]

Are you telling me, Jimmy, that you don't believe that John has really lost faith in big Pharma like this?

[Jimmy Dore]

Right. This is precisely the kind of partisan juvenile slop that led to Colbert's unprofitability and in time will lead Jon Stewart to the same place yelling expletives have Trump with the gospel choir is not clever or entertaining. It's garbage. And I would have to agree. Because it's based on a false premise. It's based on a false premise. That's why it's garbage. Not because he's got a band or because he's using expletives or he's using the F word. It's because it's based on this false premise. What did you want to say, Kurt?

[Mike McRae]

The gospel choir is pretty hacky. And I bet a chick wrote it. Like a New York feminist chick. White woman. Because in their head, that's soulful. I bet you. I'll bet you.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, it's very much like when the Tonight show writers all wrote letters to Hillary Clinton. Remember that? Do you remember that when they.

[Mike McRae]

I remember on snl, what's her name saying a song at the piano.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

Yep.

[Jimmy Dore]

So anyway. All right. So anyway. So now you know why Jon Stewart show is not worth what it was. It's. It's a garbage show. Just like Stephen Colbert show became garbage. It's garbage, this show. And it's not that he doesn't have good comedy chops. He does. The jokes are tight and solid, but they're all built on false premises.

[Mike McRae]

John can't believe that they're not going to fight for centrist neoliberalism.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, Aren't you going to fight for centrist neoliberalism? Because that's what. That's what Stephen Colbert is. Stephen Colbert was a mouthpiece of the intelligence community, but now the intelligence community is run by Trump. Oh, oh, hey. You know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy dork.com clicking on join premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support.

[Mike McRae]

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[Jimmy Dore]

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[Mike McRae]

That's not the itinerary we're following.

[Jimmy Dore]

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[Jimmy Dore]

Tulsi has released even more information that she says condemns Barack Obama and Trump says it's treasonous. Here she was talking at a press conference and here's she gets asked about it.

[Press Secretary]

Do you believe that any of this new information implicates former President Obama in criminal behavior? We have referred and will continue to refer all of these documents to the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate the criminal implications of this for even the evidence. Correct. The evidence that we have found and that we have released directly point to President Obama leading the manufacturing of this intelligence assessment. There are multiple pieces of evidence and intelligence that confirm that fact.

[Jimmy Dore]

Ed, go ahead. Director Gabbard, thank you. So just two questions. But to begin on that the president yesterday you inferred that the former president helped lead a coup. Based on what you now see, do you believe President Obama is guilty of treason?

[Press Secretary]

I'm leaving the criminal charges to the Department of Justice. I'm not an attorney, but as I've said previously, when you look at the intent behind creating a fake manufactured intelligence document that directly contradicts multiple assessments that were created by the intelligence community. The expressed intent and what followed afterward can only be described as a years long coup and a treasonous conspiracy against the American people, our republic, and an attempt to undermine President Trump's administration.

[Jimmy Dore]

The Senate intelligence. So she. The hardest thing you can prove is intent. So you're not going to be able to prove that that's not going to happen. So this is all a distraction. The second thing is the Supreme Court, I'm pretty sure ruled earlier this year that the President can't be held accountable for anything he does while he's president. His official duties.

[Mike McRae]

I think that Richard Nixon got in trouble for saying.

[Jimmy Dore]

Which is true. Right. Which is true.

[Mike McRae]

The president does. It's not a crime.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. When the. Yeah. And that's pretty much. And that's what the Supreme Court. I'm pretty sure, I'm not a legal scholar, but I'm pretty sure that's what they said. That was the gist of their ruling. And so that would be covered this under this. So this is, this is all a big distraction. This is the distraction. They are distracting as hard as they possibly can from the, from the, the outfit. From the.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah, guy Tulsi. She has the white good guy Tulsi outfit with that matches her white hair streak that she wore to tell the truth at those earrings. Then when she comes to say nonsense, she wears darker colors. It's actually, it couldn't be more of a distraction.

[Jimmy Dore]

So this is from today. She says new evidence has emerged of the most egregious weaponization and politicization of intelligence in American history.

[Mike McRae]

That did happen and it's not the most egregious. By the way, there's that Epstein thing.

[Jimmy Dore]

That did happen, but you're not going to be. Per President Donald Trump's directive, I have declassified House intel oversight majority staff report that exposes how the Obama administration manufactured the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment that they knew was false, promoting the lie that Vladimir Putin and the Russian government helped President Trump win the 2016 election. In doing so, they conspired to subvert the will of the American people, working with their partners in the media to promote the lie in order to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump, essentially enacting a years long coup against him. This is all true that that happened.

[Mike McRae]

Who cares? But we torture some folks.

[Jimmy Dore]

So yeah, and we also tortured the folks. And every president is a war criminal in my lifetime. So we. That's not happening.

[Mike McRae]

Was it Obama's least bad crime he ever did?

[Jimmy Dore]

So here's, here's she's. She then she then tweeted out some of the lies and what the truths are. Right? So the lie was Putin and the Russian government helped Trump win the 2016 election. That's the lie. The truth is President Obama, former Director of the CIA John Brennan and others fabricated the Russian hoax, suppressed intelligence showing Putin was preparing for a Clinton victory, manufactured findings from shoddy sources, disobeyed IC standards, intelligence community standards, and knowingly lied to the American people. That's all true.

[Mike McRae]

Like she does about Israel. Yeah, they all do right now about a real genocide in front of your dumb faces, right?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. Here's another one she tweeted out. So the lie is the Steele dossier was not used as a Source in the 2017 Obama Intelligence Community assessment. The truth. Not Only did the CIA Director Brennan, FBI Director Comey, DNI Clapper and others include the Steele dossier in the 2017 Intelligent Community Assessment, they overruled senior intelligence officials who warned them it was fabricated and should not be used. So, yeah, this is all. Again, everything she's saying is true. This is all being released now as a distraction. This is a distraction. You know what else is a good distraction? Stand up comedy next August 3rd, Sunday in Oxnard, California. I'll be there August 3rd, Sunday. Then I'm going to be in Chicago in Manhattan and Rutherford, New Jersey, lots of other places. Go to jimmy dore.com for a link for tickets. But. So this is all coming out now as a distraction. So what? Here, I'll show you one more lie and then I'll tell you why this is all. So the lie is The Obama administration's 2017 ICA was an independent inter in intelligence community product produced with apolitical analysis. Okay, it wasn't. The truth is Obama ordered the intelligence community to create an intelligence community assessment they knew was false, promoting a contrived narrative with the intent of undermining the legitimacy and power of duly elected President of the United States. So that's all true. But there's nothing going to happen about it because as we've already told you, the Supreme Court said the President could do whatever and you can't prove intent. That's the hardest thing to prove. So together, the records released on Friday, the June 28 report known as the Clinton Annex released earlier this week, and the House Intelligence Oversight Report was released today confirmed that many Americans have already known the Russia hoax was a lie that knowingly created by the Obama administration to undermine the legitimacy and power of the duly elected President of the United States. So here it is. Here's that thing. Here's the oversight, investigation and referral. She's releasing it. And here's just some interesting parts. It says the rest of the intelligence community assessment the judgment that Putin developed a clear preference for candidate Trump and aspired to help his chances of victory to not adhere to the tenets of analytic standards. So the Department of the CIA ordered the post election publication of 15 reports containing three, which were substandard, containing information that was unclear, of uncertain origin, potentially biased and implausible. And those became foundational sources for the CIA judgments that Putin preferred Trump over Clinton. The ICA misrepresented these reports as reliable without mentioning their significant underlying flaws. One scant, unclear and unverifiable fragment of a sentence from one of the substandard reports constitutes the only classified information cited to suggest Putin aspired to help Trump win. So again, this is all true. This is all true.

[Mike McRae]

Such nonsense, Jimmy. Because it's very clear now, especially if they're now, I don't know, three years of covering this. Putin has no idea who's in charge. He can't say it enough. He goes, I make a deal with the President. They leave and go, I can't do it. And I'm like, okay, the men with the blue ties and the black suits come. So if he was going to influence something, it would be John Brennan getting his job. Putin wouldn't waste his time with our puppet president. That doesn't matter.

[Jimmy Dore]

The ica, the intelligence community assessment ignored or selectively quoted reliable intelligence reports that challenged and in some cases undermined judgments that Putin sought to elect Trump. The ICA failed to consider plausible alternative explanations of Putin's intentions indicated by reliable intelligence and observed Russian actions. The dcia. The CIA picked five CIA analysts to write the ICA and rushed its production in order to publish two weeks before President Elect Trump was sworn in. Hurried coordination and limited access to the draft reduced opportunities for the intelligence community to discover misquoting of sources and. And other tradecraft errors. And so this is right from the report. I pulled this. It says what the ICA says. It says we further assess that Putin and the Russian government developed a clear preference for candidate Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments. So that's. None of that is true. None of that. None of this is true. CIA and the FBI also assess with High confidence that Putin and the Russian government aspired to help candidate Trump's chances of victory when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton. We assess that Russian leaders never entirely abandoned hope for a defeat of Secretary Clinton. When it appeared Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, the Russians influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her future presidency. Well, the ICA judgment on Putin's intentions failed to adhere to the following analytical standards within the ICD203 properly described quality and credibility of underlying sources properly expressed and explained uncertain. So they were taking these on unqualified assessments that and they were saying these were we have high confidence in them when they didn't and base confidence assessments on the quality of the Be informed by all relevant Consider alternative perspectives be in the so that's what they're supposed to do and they didn't do any of that. Despite the ICA significant tradecraft failures, the assessment demonstrated awareness of the ICD standards in a section describing analytic so they knew that they weren't following the standards.

[Mike McRae]

It's not a failure. They're doing what they do with the vaccines and the flu shots and every other thing. They know their bosses want it to look this way so they're going to make it look a certain way, right?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. So unlike routine Internet and intelligence community analysis, the ICA was a highly profile product ordered by the President, directed by senior intelligence community agency heads and created by just five CIA analysts using one principal drafter. Production of the ICA was subject to unusual directives from the President and senior political appointees and and particularly the dcia. The draft was not properly coordinated with CIA or the intelligence community, ensuring it would be published without significant challenges to its conclusions. So there's more. It just goes, there's so you get it. So senior CIA officers said some of the information in these reports had been judged to have not met various long standing standards for publication and that's why it had not been published when first acquired. Two sensitive reports were not published on DCAA orders. So so they, they had all this information. The intelligence community said this information is not reliable so they didn't publish it. Barack Obama says f this go back, get another report and they included all this stuff in that report. And so now they're trying to say that Barack Obama is guilty of treason. The three reports became foundational sources for the ICA judgment. So you know, why don't we go.

[Mike McRae]

Back and get Bush and Cheney and all them too. This is what when he were they were going to put Hillary like lock her up.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Mike McRae]

And I'm like, they're going to just start with her. I mean, she did a lot of crimes, I'm certain of that. But like that's just the first one. You know, the rest of them, how bad they are. She ain't the top commander of that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Mike McRae]

All of them are doing that.

[Jimmy Dore]

So the, the bigger question is why is Tulsi Gabbard and the Trump administration releasing this stuff now? Didn't they have access to this in Trump's first administration? Kurt, why didn't he have his DNI nice with them?

[Mike McRae]

He's trying to make nice. And he thought he could still be president. He didn't want him.

[Jimmy Dore]

He thought he. Yes, he thought.

[Mike McRae]

He wasn't trying to blow up their spot like the second term was supposed to be. Right. He learned his lesson the first term and now he's blown up. But he wasn't going to. So then they tried out this fake Epstein thing to push his side of what he's hiding. So he's all fine. Now I'm going to say, I'm going to say the crime Obama did, that's what this is, a tit for tat.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Mike McRae]

And it's all, it's all pageant. The whole thing's a pageant. Israel's in a tough jam right now. We can't have this guy.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Mike McRae]

Israel's. Maybe he's not going to make it.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Jon Favreau, who's a hack who worked for, does that pod save thing and he was. Comes right out of the Obama administration movie star guy. He's. No, this is the guy. And he's just a paid mouthpiece. He says if any of the people pushing the Trump Tulsi, Obama conspiracy sat down for an interview with a non maga influencer, the whole thing would fall apart in five minutes.

[Mike McRae]

It did. It's already fallen apart. What are you talking about?

[Jimmy Dore]

That's not true. No, because it's true. What they're saying is actually true. It's not a consistent. It.

[Mike McRae]

It's a criminal conspiracy. It's a, It's a real thing.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's a real. They really did all the stuff that Tulsi is saying that they did. They did that. And he's saying, he's saying this is a crazy conspiracy. And then if someone pushing that sat down with someone like him who's not maga, that it would fall apart. Well, it wouldn't fall apart. What would fall apart is Russiagate. Russiagate would fall apart. The fuck. The bullshit conspiracy that Obama And Clapper and Brennan and all those people were put and Adam Schiff, that's the thing that would fall apart. And you know, I know is because Aaron mate took up that challenge. He said, I'm not going to have that. I'm a non maga and I'd be happy to sit down for an interview with any non maga influencer who is still pushing Russiagate. Buying into the Clinton campaign's Trump Russia conspiracy theory and Russia interference scam was a disaster that is long overdue for a reckoning. I'm going to predict that doesn't happen. Because if, if, if Jon Favreau brought on Aaron Matt say Aaron Matte would dismantle Russiagate and dismantle Jon Favreau, Jon Favreau fall apart.

[Mike McRae]

And that's why if you did take over the challenge, I predict you go, I don't need to platform.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Mike McRae]

Anti Semites like.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. Sean Davis says even after John Brenner was told by career intel experts that the Steele dossier was garbage, Brennan ignored them, enforced its inclusion in the ica. The ICA just stands for Intelligence Community Assessment. That's all that is.

[Mike McRae]

Oh, wow.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. But doesn't it ring true? Brennan reportedly responded after being told the Steele dossier failed to meet basic tradecraft standards. Yes.

[Mike McRae]

Does it ring true? It didn't. Why don't you just bring me a package of Charmin next time?

[Jimmy Dore]

So for years, millions of Trump derangement syndrome afflicted liberals were just sure that the pee tape would surface at any moment. To this day, something like 60% of Democrats believe Russia changed the vote totals in 2016. You can draw a direct line from this hoax to the current war in Ukraine. That is the best point about this. That to me is you can draw a direct line from Russiagate to the American people supporting our war in Ukraine. That a direct line. They needed Russiagate. They needed you to hate Putin, they needed you to hate Russia so you would go on board for their war, their proxy war, using Ukraine as the cannon fodder to try to damage Russia. The amount of damage John Brennan did to this country is incalculable. He should be in jail. I agree. And Clapper lied. What? What do you think?

[Mike McRae]

I shouldn't trust that new UFO documentary where they talk to John Brennan about disclosure.

[Jimmy Dore]

So again, this is all true. What Tulsi saying is true. The two things, why are you releasing it now? Why didn't Trump release it in his first term? And we know the reason why they're releasing it now. And it's to distract from the Epstein stuff. They shut down Congress to distract from the Epstein stuff. And talk about shutdown. You want to see a comedy shutdown August 3rd in Oxnard, California. I'll be there. I'll also be in Rutherford, New Jersey, Manhattan, New York, Chicago, Appleton. Go to Jimmy Dore.com for a link for tickets. Anything you want to add to this, Kurt?

[Mike McRae]

Oh, man, I love that we're finally. It's like my friends text me stuff like, did you know Joe Biden? It was his brain didn't work the whole time coming out.

[Jimmy Dore]

So I mean, there's just stuff like this all over the place. These standards include describing sources, including their reliability and access to information, clearly expressing uncertainty, distinguishing between underlying information and analyst judgments and assumptions exploit. So this was. So Russiagate was a hoax. It was concocted by the intelligence community. They're saying it was directed by Barack Obama. Can we be. Did he. Did he order a new ica? Yes, he did. Can we ever prove his intent? You'll never prove it. Plus the Supreme Court says that the President can't be held liable for stuff he does, as is an official duty. So, yes. What the. The. The. The spirit is true of what Tulsi Gabbard saying, but the reason why she's doing it is nefarious. It's to doing it now is to distract. And yeah, I'd like to say, I'd actually like to see some people go to jail for Russia Gate. I would.

[Mike McRae]

But the people long time ago.

[Jimmy Dore]

But the people.

[Mike McRae]

The second Trump got in, where's the vengeance he promised that they were all worried about and they were all googling defense attorney. You get a murder. Is that a statute of limitations? How do I kill myself? That was the big story, remember?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Mike McRae]

And then what happened? He tried to make nice with them and make a deal. Why would you do that if you're not one of them? Why would you make a deal with them if you're not one of them at the end of the day?

[Jimmy Dore]

So Trump is one of them. Trump is the establishment. He is. And so there might be factions of the deep state fighting amongst each other, but Trump is definitely in one faction of that deep state.

[Mike McRae]

Nick Bryant said it. Gambinos versus Genovese. Yes, that's that.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's what this is. So Thomas Massie is pushing for it. Owns his own private investigation into the. Did you know this Kurt, into the Epstein thing.

[Mike McRae]

I'm surprised that 21% of Americans are in Congress. Who's the percent that said that's the majority. But who said no, don't release them.

[Jimmy Dore]

He says 79% of Americans support releasing the Epstein files.

[Mike McRae]

Who are the 21% is Congress was most of people.

[Jimmy Dore]

Only 16 members of Congress have sponsored the legislation to do so. After seven legislative days I'll be able to collect signatures to force a vote on my bill to release all files and co sponsors. That was from July 20th. So that was going to happen by the way. So Here is the YouGov poll. 79% of the adults say yes, 5% say no, 85 are Democrats. Only 76% of independents say yes. Isn't that interesting? Who are these?

[Mike McRae]

The numbers are low but who are they on a list these people.

[Jimmy Dore]

No kidding.

[Mike McRae]

Let bygones be bygones I say.

[Jimmy Dore]

But now Thomas Massie says Americans were promised justice. Our binding partisan legislation to release the complete Epstein files now has 20 sponsors. Soon we could be collecting signatures required to force public vote in the U.S. house. Is your member on the list? That was from July 22nd. Well guess what then the Speaker Johnson he retreats on his demand.

[Mike McRae]

Speaker Harry Potter who's retreating on this.

[Jimmy Dore]

Harry Potter says the man for Epstein Trump needs his space. So he completely flip flopped. He completely flip flopped said Trump needs his space breakings Mike Johnson said he would shut down the House until September to block a vote on calling for the release. So this is the one time when Democrats and Republicans actually agree they want to get this Epstein stuff out or they want to vote on it.

[Mike McRae]

Some of them want to but the heads are not allowing it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, so they so that I think it is that the Democrats wanted to force a vote to embarrass the Republicans who are going to vote against it to protect Trump.

[Mike McRae]

They both know it can never come out. All in the meanwhile they're all doing games because I love this thing. Democrats are like oh yeah, hey Mago, aren't you sad because they didn't release it? Oh yeah, because Wendy Williams is going to get right on that when she got in. Yeah, I'm sure so used to get suppressed for talking about it when the Dems went remember that?

[Jimmy Dore]

So here's what he said when he says so they just suspended Congress early so they don't have to take this vote.

[Mike Johnson]

As you all know, I speak to the President multiple times a day on a typical day, often always. And what I know about the President's heart on this is that he agrees with everything I've said here today. He wants maximum transparency but he's also very insistent that we do not subject people who have already been victims of unspeakable crimes to further public scrutiny. And it would be a very dangerous thing to put those people's names out or to do a release of information in a way that is haphazard, where.

[Jimmy Dore]

They could be easily haphazard. He's only had 10 years.

[Mike Johnson]

I think we have a moral responsibility to do that. We have a moral responsibility to expose the evil of Epstein. And everybody was involved in that. Absolutely. And we're.

[Jimmy Dore]

And it says here I'm so set smack the podium right now to make it look like I'm really earnest and I really give a about anything I'm saying right now. So. Oh yeah.

[Mike McRae]

Oh my Falcon glasses normally do that, but I got to do this too now. You just look at my glasses.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Mike McRae]

Remember Harry Potter? That's unreal. Here's what would happen if they released it in a haphazard fashion. He kind of just said at the end, you know, the Walmart fat people, the Rizzler and company, the family at raps about Walmart, they would put down their Stromboli's and run there to tear these people apart limb from limb. And we can never have that. You know, Walmart would go under.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let's watch this. I was wondering with the paralysis in the rules committee and seems like they're not going to be meeting again today because of Epstein amendments. Have you chatted with anybody about that at this point?

[Thomas Massie]

Well, it wouldn't really matter. Their Epstein bill resolution is non binding. So it's kind of fake. The, the resolution that I have co sponsored with Rona would actually bring up legislation that would be binding on the President.

[Jimmy Dore]

Is your understanding that that will ripen the day after lawmakers get back from August recess?

[Thomas Massie]

Yeah, unfortunately we have six days and we needed seven days for the discharge petition to ripen before we could bring this up before the August recess. So we'll have to bring it up after the August recess. But the good news is the speaker has no interest in keeping us here one extra day.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Speaker Johnson expresses frustration that Thomas Massie is trying to get Congress to move to release Epstein files. He says he needs scripture to deal with him.

[Mike Johnson]

So here's the. So as the leader of my party, I lead the incumbent protection program. That's my job. I go all around the country. I travel endlessly, incessantly. I have to raise over $300 million to do that. And we want everybody to come back. And some people, I try to protect them from themselves. You know, they kick and scream and bite their own colleagues. Some people seem to enjoy and trying to inflict political pain on their own teammates. I'm not going to address anybody individually, but I'll tell you that some here are much more frustrating than others. There's a small, small, tiny handful, but one in particular who's given me lots of consternation. I don't understand. I don't understand Thomas Massie's motivation. I really don't. I don't know how his mind works. I don't know what he's. What he's thinking. Thomas Massie could have brought his discharge petition anytime over the last four and a half years. Over the last four years, the Biden administration, he could have done that at any time. And now he's clamoring as if there's some sort of timeline on it. It's interesting to me that he chose the election of President Trump to bring this. To team up with the Democrats and bring this discharge petition. So do I have some concern about that? I do. But, you know, in me and my way, I try to f. I try to follow Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment, never speak evil of another Republican. My gosh, it's hard to do sometimes around here. I also try to follow the scripture. You know, it says, bless those who persecute you. So let me just say about Thomas Massie, could you just accept my Southern. Bless his heart, okay? I don't know what else to say about it. We're for maximum transparency. We're engaging in that right now. We don't need political gain.

[Jimmy Dore]

So now you see why this guy, they wanted him to be speaker. He is. He is an expert. Speak out of both sides of his mouth guy. And that's what that was right there. He's like, oh, this asshole Thomas Massie wants transparency. I'm committed to transparency. What?

[Mike McRae]

Yeah, I only heard the one side until the transparency part. So your. Your job. He goes first. He goes. Our job is protecting. Protect the incumbent.

[Jimmy Dore]

Incumbent.

[Mike McRae]

I'm not here to protect, you know, your citizens and, like, being trafficked by Israel, you know?

[Jimmy Dore]

No.

[Mike McRae]

Oh, okay. And then you're gonna bring up scripture because, I mean, that is like, how do you not know your leaders are, like, satanic, whether you believe in that stuff or not. That's crazy what he said. He just said scripture. There's a at large group of pederass running everything, and you as a Christian, don't feel no need to look any. No, I think the timing is. The timing. Interesting. Yeah, it's interesting to me too. Harry Potter. I thought Trump was going to release that shit.

[Jimmy Dore]

Say that.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah, that's the timing explained.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. So he, everybody was convinced that. Let me just tell Mike Johnson why, maybe why Thomas Massie is doing it now, because it's clear that the Trump administration is trying to cover this up instead of what they are campaigned on was release all of it and reveal everything and have transparency, radical transparency. And now it's obvious that that's not happening. So Thomas Massie has to go do something about it. That would be probably why he's doing it now. And he probably didn't do it over the last four years because he knew that the Democrats were in charge of all that stuff and they would probably suppress it. Yeah, well, the Republicans are in charge of all that stuff now and they're suppressing it. So that's why he's having to do it right now.

[Mike McRae]

I mean, you can't see it from the beer. He's got no glasses, he's grown a full beard. Thomas Massey. He's probably living in a shack, hiding out.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

And, and it's also, it's not party first, it's country first.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's supposed to be country first, not party first.

[Mike McRae]

11Th Commandment.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. So there are good jokes to be made about this and if you'd like to hear some of them, August 3rd, I'll be in Oxnard, California and I'll be in Rutherford, New Jersey. Manhattan, New York will also be in Chicago, Appleton, Wisconsin, all kinds of places in the Midwest. Go to jimmy dore.com for a link for tickets. Here's what Mike Johnson says. Republicans won't be lectured on transparency by the same Democrats who orchestrated one of the most shameless and dangerous cover ups in history. Biden's obvious mental and physical decline. So what he's saying is, yeah, of course we're not being transparent. Of course we're covering shit up, but we're not going to be lectured by people who also cover shit up. That's what he's saying.

[Mike McRae]

Be mocked by me. How about that Harry Potter?

[Jimmy Dore]

Thomas Massie says, Speaker Johnson, why are you running cover for an underage sex trafficking ring and pretending this is a partisan issue. MAGA voted for this.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

Perfect response.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's the perfect response. Clinton Russell says there were enough votes to pass Massie's binding resolution to blow the lid open on the Epstein files. All the fury directed at Mike Johnson for this move, but he did what he was told to do. I hope people realize that this was Trump's call. Of course this was and he does exactly what he's told. Trump says this Thomas Massie, the worst Republican congressman and an almost guaranteed no vote each and every time is an embarrassment to Kentucky. He's lazy, slow moving and totally dis. This does not work on Thomas Massie. She, he acts like he's talking about Tim Waltz or Hillary. No, you're talking about someone that is beloved in Kentucky. This, that guy's going to have his seat as long as he wants it. Thomas Massie. Unless it comes out that he's on that list, which he's not. He's a real loser. Never has anything. So it's just like when they called everybody sexist. It loses. Its it punch Donald Trump. When you calling Thomas Massie a real loser, it just doesn't, it doesn't mean anything. Never has anything positive to add. Looking for someone to run. Yeah. His positivity is that he, he wants to end the deficit. I think that's pretty positive. That's a big deal. And he wants to expose the, the, the Abstein files. That's also a positive.

[Mike McRae]

So this is a bad Republican.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Looking for someone to run against this guy. Someone I can endorse and vigorously campaign for. So Donald Trump, that's called about Republican on Republican violence. And Thomas Massie says if the executive branch won't release phase two of the Epstein files, we will. Americans deserve transparency and the victims deserve justice. Wow. So we'll see if that happens. So Thomas Massie fighting against the, the COVID up of the Epstein files. That's what Thomas Massey's doing. And Trump calls him a loser for it.

[Mike McRae]

He's looking great.

[Jimmy Dore]

Thomas Massie is. Yeah.

[Mike McRae]

He looks some weight.

[Jimmy Dore]

It does look like he lost some weight. He looks good. He's got, he's got a normal beard. He doesn't have a beard that people grow to as a substitute for a personality I don't know if you've ever seen. I'm talking about David Letterman. David Letterman. Yeah. David Letterman did that. Hey. Become a premium member. Go to jimmy dorecomedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be and I'll keep being me. Do not freak out.

[Mike McRae]

I'm not kidding.

[Jimmy Dore]

Do not do that. Don't freak out. Do not freak out.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

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