Chomsky's Disgusting Epstein Ties Prove He Was COMPROMISED ALL ALONG!

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Jimmy Dore Show

Episode: Chomsky's Disgusting Epstein Ties Prove He Was COMPROMISED ALL ALONG!
Date: February 9, 2026
Host: Jimmy Dore
Notable Participants: Co-Host/Commentator, Erica Kirk (Former TPUSA), Guest Analyst
Theme: Jimmy Dore eviscerates Noam Chomsky’s recent exposed ties with Jeffrey Epstein, arguing these details confirm Chomsky was always an asset for establishment power—contrary to his dissident persona. The show also critiques Chomsky’s dismissive stances on major issues, from JFK/9-11 conspiracies, to COVID mandates, health care, and Israel/Palestine, ultimately suggesting he’s “deep state” compromised. The episode also covers internal controversies at TPUSA and briefly lampoons Senator Lindsey Graham.

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Episode Overview

Jimmy Dore leverages newly released Epstein communications and decades of Chomsky’s own statements to make an aggressive case that the revered linguist and leftist intellectual was long aligned with elite establishment interests. Dore and guests revisit Chomsky’s public record—from his attitudes on historic assassinations and terrorism to healthcare and pandemic policy—illustrating a consistent pattern of protecting ruling class narratives and dismissing "conspiracy theories" as dangerous distractions. The show fiercely critiques both Chomsky’s alleged hypocrisy and those who continue to defend him.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Chomsky’s Ties with Jeffrey Epstein

[01:04–11:00]

• Jimmy introduces the crux: newly released files suggest Chomsky "was most likely compromised by the intelligence community—not only because he comes straight out of MIT, but because of [what] he did and said."
• Chomsky gave Jeffrey Epstein PR advice years after Epstein’s first conviction for underage sex trafficking.
  • Quote (Chomsky, via email to Epstein, read by Dore):

    “I've watched the horrible way you are being treated in the press and public… I think the best way to proceed is to ignore it… Vultures, they want a public response…” [05:15]

• Epstein invited Chomsky (and wife) to "New York or the Caribbean," and Chomsky replied that he was "fantasizing about the Caribbean island." [08:11]
• Emails revealed meetings with Epstein and possibly Woody Allen, leading Dore to joke, "manufacturing consent has a whole new meaning now." [09:29]

2. Chomsky's Record on Conspiracy and Ruling Class Coordination

[10:00–15:03]

• Chomsky is quoted dismissing both JFK and 9/11 conspiracy theories as not worth investigating.
  • Quote (Chomsky, referenced):

    "Even if we're true, which is extremely unlikely, who cares?" [10:29] "Who knows? Who cares? I mean, plenty of people get killed all the time. Why does it matter that one of them happened to be John F. Kennedy?" [11:32]

• Dore: “That was a coup of our government… That's why it matters. He knows this, and so there's nothing that makes me crazier than when a guy who I know is 10 times smarter than me acts like he's dumber than me.” [13:53]

3. Chomsky on COVID, Vaccine Mandates, and Social Exclusion

[16:03–19:14]

• Chomsky argued during COVID that those who refuse vaccines should self-isolate or, if they refuse, face community-enforced measures.
  • Quote (Chomsky):

    “…people who refuse to accept vaccines, the right response… is not to force them to, but rather to insist that they be isolated…” [16:03] "How can we get food to them? Well, that's actually their problem." [19:08]

• Dore attacks these views as inhumane, likening them to “propaganda” and an abdication of the worker’s interests.

  “Here he is screwing the workers and screwing anybody who doesn't go along with Big Pharma and the Deep State's agenda.” [20:02]

4. Chomsky on Health Policy and Medicare for All ("Force the Vote")

[21:15–29:04]

• Dore details how Chomsky dismissed the demand for a floor vote on Medicare for All (during a rare window with Democratic control)—likening supporters to “children who want candy.”
  • Quote (Chomsky):

    "Children who say, I want this piece of candy…" [27:45]

• Dore: “That's verbatim what Hillary Clinton would say about Medicare for all… He's referring to health care in the middle of a pandemic as candy. That's the exact talking points that came directly from the deep state.” [27:47]
• Dore frames Chomsky as an establishment gatekeeper who always tells voters to "vote Democrat," never supporting true outside activism.

5. Chomsky’s Foreign Policy/Iran/Israel & BDS

[29:12–31:49]

• Brief summary of Chomsky’s positions: anti-BDS, supports “two-state” liberal Zionism, and adopts State Department lines on global conflicts.
• Readout from online commentator Jason Zaharis [30:10]:

  "Noam Chomsky was a poison on the American left. He taught many generations to dismiss ruling class coordination as a conspiracy theory… Meanwhile, he was dining with Jeffrey Epstein…"

6. Broader Critique of Chomsky's Legacy

[33:21–34:18]

• Dore and guest agree: “I knew he was full of shit during force to vote. That was it for me. JFK, 9/11, every four years telling you to vote for the duopoly… Never told you to protest for anything, always funneled energy back to the establishment.” [33:21]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jimmy Dore:

  “Chomsky was exactly as I suspected. He was most likely compromised by the intelligence community…” [01:04] “If you can give me a better reason than he's compromised by the intelligence community, I'll listen to it. But I haven't heard a better explanation of why he would say this crazy stupid stuff…” [12:37]

• On Chomsky’s PR advice to Epstein:

  “For virtually everyone who sees any of this, the reaction will be, where there's smoke, there's fire… Whatever the facts, which few will even think of investigating… Hard to say, but it's the best advice I can think of.” [06:30, Chomsky via email]

• Co-host:

  “Remember, Chomsky was hysterical about Steve Bannon, but here they all are, all chummy.” [08:02]

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Additional Segments

The TPUSA Firing Scandal

[51:57–58:46]

• Former employee Erica Kirk discusses being fired from Turning Point USA after questioning the narrative around Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
  • Quote (Erica Kirk):

    “I was terminated from Turning Point because I am questioning the narrative of what happened to my role model and CEO Charlie Kirk…” [51:57]

• Dore and analyst argue this exposes the organization’s hypocrisy and authoritarian culture.

Lindsey Graham Lampooned

[35:19–47:32]

• Extended riff on Lindsey Graham’s apparent slurred speech in recent interviews. Dore and co-host repeatedly play back sections, mock his delivery, and speculate on his condition (“He looks hammered”), before segueing into broader mockery of Republican and establishment norms.

“Deep-State” & International Plots

[46:47–47:34]

• Brief speculation on international “deep state” operations, foreign interference, and Mossad/CIA allegations, blending in wider conspiracy rhetoric.

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Section Timestamps

• Chomsky/Epstein emails: 01:04–11:00
• Chomsky on JFK/9-11: 10:00–15:03
• Chomsky on COVID and mandates: 16:03–20:25
• ‘Force the Vote’ & Medicare for All: 21:15–29:04
• BDS/Israel and Foreign Policy: 29:12–31:49
• TPUSA Assassination/Firing: 51:57–58:46
• Lindsey Graham parody: 35:19–47:32

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Tone & Style

Raw, provocative, and irreverent—the tone is classic Jimmy Dore: combative, sarcastic, contemptuous toward establishment narratives, and fiercely populist. Guests match this energy, contributing biting asides and conspiracy-laden commentary.

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Takeaways for New Listeners

• Jimmy Dore forcefully rejects Chomsky’s dissident credentials, arguing exposed Epstein connections confirm a lifelong pro-establishment pattern.
• Chomsky’s dismissals of establishment crime/cover-up, suppression of left populism, and “contempt for ordinary people” are portrayed as calculated, rather than naïve.
• Listeners are encouraged to see “left icons” like Chomsky as designed safety valves filtering and funneling dissent back into the system.

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Standout Moments

• Chomsky’s “Who cares?” on JFK:

  "Who knows? Who cares? …Why does it matter that one of them happened to be John F. Kennedy?" [11:32]

• On COVID restrictions:

  “If [the unvaccinated] refuse to remove themselves from the community, then measures have to be taken to safeguard the community from them… how do we get food to them? That's their problem.” [18:25, 19:08]

• On Medicare for all:

  "Children who say, I want this piece of candy..." [27:45]

• Epstein connection punchline:

  "Manufacturing consent has a whole new meaning now." [09:29]

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Summary:
This episode is a relentless exposé and character assassination of Noam Chomsky, using the Epstein revelations as a springboard for concluding that Chomsky was always “compromised.” Dore employs a blend of ridicule, documented quotes, and conspiracy rhetoric, linking Chomsky’s legacy to broader arguments about systemic control and the futility of mainstream politics. Secondary features include skewering of contemporary establishment figures and leftist institutions seen as similarly corrupt or captured.

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Transcript

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[Jimmy Dore]

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[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Establishment media sucks. All that slight and so good luck bullshit we can't afford. Why he's fomenting this Watch and see.

[Erica Kirk (Former TPUSA Employee)]

As his jack golf come medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

It's the chimney door.

[Jimmy Dore]

So it turns out Chomsky was exactly as I suspected. He was most likely compromised by the intelligence community, not only because he comes straight out of mit, but because of the things he did and said. He, he. I'm going to show you how. He said it didn't matter who killed jfk, so stop looking into it. He said that what what Dick Cheney said about 9 11, how it happened is exactly how it happened. And you're a conspiracy theory if you think otherwise. He said that people who want health care are kids who want candy. And he said that you should take the COVID vaccine and if you don't, you should be separated from society. And how you get food is your own problem. These are all things that not a guy who pretends to be a lefty and speaking up for the working man would say. This is that something that you would say if you were compromised by the oligarchy, the establishment and the deep state, which I'm pretty sure Chomsky was at this point, because that's exactly the type of people that the deep state need. They need somebody who seems so far left, he's so out there that anybody any farther left than him is just crazy. And in fact he'll tell you they're crazy. So that's his function and he did it. And every four years he told you you were crazy if you didn't vote for a Democrat. So he kept you in the two party duopoly, which he could never get you out of. So here Kombat Chomsky taught a generation to dismiss ruling class coordination as a conspiracy theory while dining with the man who coordinated blackmail operations for that same ruling class. So that's another reason why, you know, that he's probably compromised by the deep state Noam Chomsky was. Because his whole thing was dismiss the conspiracy theory that the ruling class coordinated. But here he is. Okay, all right. You know what they say about Chomsky? No. Him. I didn't know him until you got him on an island with Jeffrey Epstein. Come on.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

No, I hardly fucked him.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Newly released files shed light on Chomsky and Epstein's relationship. The latest communications undermined Chomsky's earlier claims that he primarily had financial dealings with Epstein because they had. He's already been approached with this, and Chomsky dismissed him. I don't have to answer for anything. It was just finances. So, perhaps most strikingly, in late February 2019, Epstein represented to an associate that he had gotten advice from Chomsky over how to navigate the horrible way you are being treated in the press and the public. So Chomsky's giving advice. He's giving advice to Epstein on how to handle his public relations problem now that he's been convicted of his crimes with girls. And he had to.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Did he say, do a fluff interview with Steve Bannon? Because it happened around this time.

[Jimmy Dore]

And hey. God. That was 11 years after Epstein had pleaded guilty to soliciting an underage girl for prostitution and months before he would be reportedly died by suicide while in federal custody awaiting trafficking charges. So this is chomsky. This is 11 years after Epstein pled guilty to soliciting underage girl for prostitution. This is what Chomsky said. So here it is. Noam Chomsky giving Epstein advice on how to outlast the PDF file allegations against him. So here it is, so you can read it. This is Chomsky speaking to Epstein. I've watched the horrible way you are being treated in the press and public. It's painful to say, but I think the best way to proceed is to ignore it. I've had plenty of experience, though, of course, not on this scale. A Google search will bring up tons of hysterical accusations of all sorts, even groups devoted to vilifying me. I pay no attention unless I'm approached for a comment on a specific matter. It's a nuisance, but it's the best way. The same conclusions from experiences of others. In some cases, cases, close friends. What the. Vultures. Vultures. He's calling them vultures. Okay, just so you know, and by the way, Chomsky's not. He's a intellectual force of nature to throw good advice out with the bath water actually containing a baby. Anyway, so. So Chomsky is telling Epstein that everyone and anyone picking on him is a vulture. But let's remember, vultures only gather when you're already rotting, so they don't attack anything that's alive. Anyway, so here we go.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

They're a vital part of the ecosystem, as a matter of fact.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. What the vultures dearly want is a public response, which then provides a public opening for an onslaught of venomous attacks, many from just publicity seekers or cranks of all sorts, which are impossible to answer. How do you prove that you are not a neo Nazi who wants to kill the Jews? Who. Or a grapest or whatever charge comes along. That particularly true now? That's particularly true now with the hysteria that has developed about abuse of women, which has reached the point that even questioning a charge is a crime worse than murder. For virtually everyone who sees any of this, the reaction will be, where there's smoke, there's fire, maybe a raging fire. Whatever the facts, which few will even think of investigating in general, even, it's best, I think, not to react unless directly questioned, particularly in the current mood, which I presume will fade away, even if not in time to prevent much torture and distress. Hard to say, but it's the best advice I can think of. So that is Noam Chomsky. So you can come to me now.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

He said the same thing to me, Jimmy, when I was on the Epstein list, as I told you, and it was comforting me a lot. He said, just Netflix and chill. Get a pizza.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there he is, advising Epstein on how to after he's already 11 years, after he's already pled guilty to procuring an underage girl for prostitution.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

He's the second one.

[Jimmy Dore]

And now this is him after. Okay, so just to let you know, the best. So this third is the best way to proceed is to ignore it. Chomsky wrote, according to the text signed under his name, that Epstein sent to a lawyer and publicist. That's particularly true now. So that's it. Neither Chomsky nor his second wife and spokesperson, Valeria Chomsky, immediately responded to inquiries about the Epstein related emails in question, including whether they disputed the authenticity. So he's not saying anything about them because they are authentic.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Wait, the hysterical thing about women. Remember, Chomsky was hysterical about Steve Bannon, but here they all are, all chummy. Yes, he was hysterical about that. He's a Nazi, remember that.

[Jimmy Dore]

I do remember that. Chomsky's affiliation with Epstein netted him invitations to vacation together and recognizable names to his orbit. For instance, after the email showed him and the Chomsky's making plans to meet up in 2016, Epstein wrote to Noam. Chomsky enjoyed, as always, come to New York or the Caribbean. Enjoy the food. We did too, very much. Chomsky replied to Epstein, Valeria's always been always keen on New York. I'm really fantasizing about the Caribbean island. That's Chomsky. That's Chomsky. Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

In my mind, I'm already on vacation, Jimmy, because.

[Jimmy Dore]

And it's not because of anything nefarious. It's just that Chomsky always secretly longed to be a pirate.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

He's got a case of the Mondays.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. At another. At another point the same year, the same year, Epstein, a Brooklyn native, discussed being free anytime to meet up with Chomsky in New York City. Because it. Everyone in the city besides us will be gone, separate from Woody. Maybe we can do it again. Meaning Woody Allen. What? They're Chomsky.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Three of them together. What kind of Woody Allen movie that would make?

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

I don't know. She said I did it, but it's crazy. I will. What did you say? Maybe just stick it out. I don't know.

[Jimmy Dore]

Chomsky replied that it would be great to grab dinner with Epstein and the Allens, meaning Woody Allen and his wife. I guess. And so manufacturing consent has a whole new meaning now.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, it does. And so I just want to show you. This is Chomsky talking about 911 and the JFK murder. And listen to what he says about 9 11. And listen to what he says about JFK's assassination.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Real sh. Oh, isn't he?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, I should say that.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

You know, I'm pretty isolated on this in the West. I mean, a large part of the left completely disagrees on this and has all kind of elaborate conspiracy theories about how it happened and why it happened and so on. But I think they're just trickle. I think simply wrong. But also, I think it's diverting people away from serious issues. I mean, just doesn't make any. I mean, even if we're true, which is extremely unlikely, who cares? I mean, the main significance. But it's a little bit like the.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there he is saying it's ridiculous. Even if it's true.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Even if it were true. Who cares?

[Jimmy Dore]

Even if it's true, who cares? He's talking about.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Does he work for Mossad?

[Jimmy Dore]

He's.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

That's awfully Mossad of him to say.

[Jimmy Dore]

What?

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Who cares about JFK and 911 here.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, here. That's what Ben Shapiro. Exactly. Kurt. He sounds exactly like Ben Shapiro. Oh, jfk. Here's. He goes into jfk. Watch. He goes. It's just like huge energy that's put out.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

I'm trying to figure out who killed John F. Kennedy.

[Jimmy Dore]

He goes. It's just like the huge energy put out on trying to figure out who killed jfk. So what he's saying is that's a misappropriation of your energy to try to figure out who assassinated and did a coup of the United States government. That it's misplaced energy to try to figure out who actually couped the United States government, which is what that was. That was coup.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

I heard this. This is crazy.

[Jimmy Dore]

And this is him saying, that's a misappropriation of your energy. Listen to what he says next.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

Who knows? Who cares? I mean, plenty of people get killed all the time. Why does it matter that one of them happened to be John F. Kennedy?

[Jimmy Dore]

Who knows? And who cares who killed. People get killed all the time. What does it matter that one of them was John F. Kennedy? Because it was a coup of our government.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

If it doesn't matter, why should I vote then? I mean, like, that's not the biggest deal in the world that somebody killed the leader of a nation and took it over. I mean, I know it's not a big deal when we do it, but it happened to us. That's crazy. That's not. Who cares?

[Jimmy Dore]

So who cares? Who cares that that maybe a foreign country or our own CIA or Lyndon Baines Johnson, who became President, was in on murdering the President and overthrowing the government, the will of the people, the duly elected government of the United States. Someone overturned an election and did a coup on. So I'm bored. Who care? So that's why I met that. That's if that doesn't make you think. And he's not a dumb guy. He's an intellectual.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

That's crazy. That as a smart guy like that.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he cares.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Let the goys kill each other. Right? No.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he knows what he's saying is crazy. He's doing that for a purpose. And if you can give me a better reason than he's compromised by the intelligence community, I'll listen to it. But I haven't heard of a better explanation of why he would say this crazy stupid stuff even if it's true. 9, 11 what does it. Who cares?

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

I also know the dead people. They're dead now.

[Jimmy Dore]

And we all know now for a fact that 911 did not happen any way they tried to pretend it did. Okay, here, let's see if there's any more.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

If there was some reason to believe that there was a high level conspiracy, it might be interesting.

[Jimmy Dore]

He said if there's reason to believe that it was a high level conspiracy, it might be interesting. Ok.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

But the evidence against that is overwhelming.

[Jimmy Dore]

But the evidence against that is overwhelming. What evidence against that are you talking about? You're talking about the Warren Commission? Are you talking about another miracle bullet? What are you. What evidence?

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Hey, Michael Tracy, what's this mountain of.

[Jimmy Dore]

Evidence sounds like Michael Tracy, the evidence.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

That Epstein didn't wasn't a trafficker is overwhelming. Do you see that dipshit posted like the report from the Kash Patel fucking lie. Yeah, it was unreal.

[Jimmy Dore]

This to me is on and this right would be enough for me to think oh, of course, the guy who comes from MIT who dismisses 911 conspiracy theories even if they're true, that's part of that cult and JFK conspiracy theories, even if they're true, dismisses them. Who cares? Well, he knows why it's important. He knows what it means, he knows why it matters. He knows that couping a government matters. He knows, especially if it's a foreign country. He knows, especially if it's a vice president who took over for him who's working for that foreign country. He knows also if it's our own intelligence community, that means that the intelligence communities running the country and not the duly elected politicians. That's why it matters. That's why it's all important. And he knows this. And so there's nothing that makes me crazier than when a guy who I know is 10 times smarter than me acts like he's dumber than me.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Yeah, well, Israel does their propaganda, isn't it?

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

And after that it's just a matter, you know, if it happens to be a jealous husband or the mafia or someone else, what difference does it make? It's just taking energy away from. Serious issues are the ones that don't matter. And I think the same is for.

[Jimmy Dore]

Your personal so there you go, what does it matter? Who cares? Doesn't matter. Who cares who killed the President?

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

We got to worry about serious issues, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, we got to worry about serious.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Ok. Building concentration camps for the unvaccinated.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's participating in the conspiracy. If the only reason why he would do that is because he's compromised by the Deep State. Him doing that is his participation in the conspiracy to kill jfk, right? By extension, am I. Am I being.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

I think he participated in. In the stuff Epstein was doing, from the looks of the emails to me.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's telling you that one of the worst conspiracies in the history of humankind. It doesn't matter. And in fact, it's just a crazy conspiracy. Let me hear what he says. What are your thoughts on mandating vaccines?

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

It's a mixed story. I think we people who refuse to accept vaccines, I think the right response for them is not to force them to, but rather to insist that they be isolated. If people decide I am willing to be a danger to the community by refusing a vaccine, they should then say, well, I also have the decency to isolate myself. Okay, I don't want a vaccine, but I don't have the right to run around harming people. That should be a convention. Enforcing is a different question.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's saying that the people who didn't want to take the experimental medical treatment that is not a vaccine and had horrible side effects and didn't stop transmission or contraction, so there's no reason to have someone else take.

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[Jimmy Dore]

And by the way, you're going to take the vaccine, why do you need someone else to take the vaccine? I'll never. That'll. You'll never be able to explain that to me. And he can't explain it, but he said they want to harm me. Well, if the vaccine really works the way you say it works, then why do you need someone else to take it? I don't need someone else to take a Tylenol. When I get a headache, I take the Tylenol. I don't need someone else to drink booze for me to get drunk. I drink it. So again, this is him doing the bidding of the Deep State because the Deep State was behind Covid 100%. 100%?

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Yeah. So above the Deep State. Look at, look at, you know, did he wear a mask and check the girls at the island to make sure they were vaccinated?

[Jimmy Dore]

Right?

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Fucking old.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here he is. Here he is. He doubles down on this. Here he is. So primo nutmeg. He asks him about this again. Like, do you. So listen, you talk about folks having.

[Guest Analyst/Commentator]

The freedom to separate if they don't want to abide by these vaccine mandates. What would that look like on a practical level? Does that mean that folks need to just stay home and have groceries delivered to them? Does it Mean separated communities of folks who are unvaccinated. Or just how do you think this would practically play out?

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

Same way as with people who say, I don't want to accept traffic rules. Suppose there were people who said, it's an attack on my liberty to make me stop at a red light. It's government overreach. I don't want the state to have that power over my private life. Well, such people have to be. They should have the decency to remove themselves from the community. If they refuse to do that, then measures have to be taken to safeguard the community from them. Then comes the practical question that you ask.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's saying if they don't remove, if you don't take this experimental medical treatment that doesn't do anything that they say it does, meaning stopping transmission and contraction. And in fact, the more cloning to the Cleveland Clinic, the more of these shots you take, the more likely you are to get Covid and more likely you are to get sick.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Oh, no shit.

[Jimmy Dore]

So the exact opposite. And he's saying that we have to, then we have to take measures to protect ourselves from them, meaning isolate them. He's saying it.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

We could get away to a private island or something.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, maybe a private island.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

How can we get food to them? Well, that's actually there.

[Jimmy Dore]

How would. So then he says, how would we get food to them? Listen to what he says. Hang on.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

Then comes the practical question that you ask. How can we get food to them? Well, that's actually their problem.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's their problem. How do we get food to the people who we just kicked out of society because they wouldn't go along with Big Pharma and the CIA.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Covid narrative, very Gaza of him, isn't it? In fact, I'm hearing the Israeli intel oozing out of him now that I didn't spot at the time. At the time. Remember, you go, I guess he's old and he's afraid of dying or something because it seemed weird.

[Jimmy Dore]

Straight up propaganda. This is straight in on it.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

He's in on it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Piece of shit.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's always been in on it. He's always been in on it. So the most important thing in the world he could. I brought on leftist economists. I brought on Dr. Who did I bring on? Richard Wolff, Dr. Richard Wolf. And he said, of course you shouldn't give in to mandates for workers because you should never give more power to your employer over controlling your body. And that's what this is. And so just from a worker's perspective, which chomsky always claims to champion the workers, but he doesn't really. Here he is. Here he is screwing the workers and screwing anybody who doesn't go along with Big Pharma and the Deep State's agenda. Screw them. Separate them from society. How do they get food? That's their problem.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Hey, maybe you and your pals could eat food in front of them as they starve. Right, Rabbi Chomsky?

[Jimmy Dore]

And he gives you that stupid argument that not taking an experimental medical treatment is somehow akin to not following traffic lights. They got nothing to do. Hey, you know the difference between a traffic light and a experimental medical treatment? When I go through a traffic light, I don't have to wait 15 minutes to see if I die.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Yeah. Well, that's.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's the big deal. So that's that horrible, horrible analogy, that comedy I heard comedians make. This stupid argument that he's making. It makes no sense. Why is it when I go to authority, when I.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Of course, he looks at you as cattle. That's why he's talking this way. So all that William thing where they lick his cattle. That's why. Let him get food. He sounds like Randy Fine, don't he?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yep. And so here he is being asked about when. During COVID when the Democrats took over the House, they had a. They had a majority of like, eight votes, which was the squad. It was aoc, Rashida Tlaib, Pramila Jayapel, all those people that are in the squad. Right. So if they all voted together, they could force Nancy Pelosi to give them something for their vote for her as Speaker. It's the same thing the Republicans did to McCarthy, the Freedom Caucus. They wanted certain things before they voted for him. And he couldn't become the speaker without their votes because it was such a narrow majority in the House. They needed every vote of every Republican, so they had power over the speaker to extract things for their vote. That's what we wanted. The Democrats, the squad, AOC and all those people. We wanted them to extract something from Nancy Pelosi for her vote. Well, everybody in the Democratic Party had always said, we want to vote for, especially aoc. Even Nancy Pelosi said they wanted to have a vote for Medicare for All on the House floor. Let's have a vote. And what's the good thing about that? Well, we have a discussion about Medicare for All on a national stage that everybody's watching during a pandemic. So that would be a great time to have this discussion and then have a vote on it and see where people fall because 100 Democrats in the Congress say they're for Medicare for All. Well, let's see how they vote. Let's see. So now, and AOC and everybody said it's good to have a vote to see where people stand. So now we're like, well, you campaigned on that, which they did, so we're asking you to actually do that. It was called Force to Vote. We wanted AOC and the Squad to say, hey, we're not going to vote for Nancy Pelosi to become speaker. And she can't become speaker without our votes unless they have a vote for Medicare for All on the floor. Not that we thought it would win, but we thought it would be a great move forward for the movement for Medicare for All to get a discussion on this and have a vote on it on the House floor. Because everybody in the Democratic Party, in the dsa, in the Progressive Caucus have said that we, aoc famously said it when she was running for office that we can't even get a vote for Medicare for All on the House floor. We can't even get a vote. So this is what he's talking about. So we started at this show a thing called Force to Vote. It became a big movement and they didn't do it. And then two years later, when the Republicans took over, they did it. They actually did a Force to Vote. And it's because we were told we couldn't do it. So here he is being asked about that Forced to Vote and what he thought of it.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

Let's take a look at the real world, not a dream world, the world we live in.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's what every establishment hack would say. We live in the real world. We don't live in a dream where you can't, you can't just have everything you want. That the Medicare for All vote would fail. We know it's going to fail, but the point is to get everybody on the record in the middle of a pandemic and have people start talking from coast to coast about Medicare for All and our health care system. That was the point of that. And that would be a victory even if the bill got voted down, which we knew it would, because everybody in Congress is corrupt and bought by the health insurance company and Big Pharma. So we knew it would fail. That's not why we asked for it. We asked for it because it would be a big step forward and start a conversation and would get everybody on the record. And now we know where you stand. You can, you can sign a petition saying you're for it, but now vote for it. So here he is trying to say that that is not in the real world. So his. So he asked. So what he's doing is using the framing of the establishment he's used. He's framing this not as an activist, not as a person who stands up for workers or poor people or regular voters. He's framing this as an oligarch frames this. Who framed it this way? Hillary Clinton framed it this way, and that's what he's doing. So let's listen.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

Let's take a look at the real world, not a dream world, the world we live in. Suppose you push. Suppose you managed to push Pelosi to say let's have a vote on Medicare for all in the Senate, push Schumer to have it. We know exactly what's going to happen. 50 Republicans will vote against it. Large number of Democrats will vote against it. Two certainly Natchez and Sinema, probably plenty of others. So what we're.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's mixing it. We weren't asking for a vote in the Senate. We were asking for a vote in the House. And so he's completely trying to muddy the issue. So you don't know what he's talked. So what? You don't know what the issue is really about. That's a trick of a propagandist. And this is Noam Chomsky doing propaganda. That's a trick of a propagandist. He's completely misframing it. He's saying, well, all you need is to get two Democrats to vote against it in the House. That's all. No, no, it's that we're not talking about the Senate. We're talking about the House.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

So we can weed out the people that vote against.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

You know, like you want to do with the unvaccinated. Well, yeah, take that thought. And now the pieces of shit there who work for fucking Israel like you.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

Here we go and is let's do something to be defeated. Is that a strategy?

[Jimmy Dore]

So he wouldn't come on my show. He would go on everybody else's show during force to vote. He wouldn't come on my show because he knew that I would see right through his BS and I would expose him for going against the things he claims to be. He's not those things. He turns out he was compromised all along by the deep state.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

So here you want to get Mumford in son to.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let's. Yeah, so let's listen to this. I'll play it all the way through.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

Let's take a look at the real world, not a dream world, the world we live in. Suppose you managed to push Pelosi to say let's have a vote on Medicare for all in the Senate. Push Schumer to have it. We know exactly what's going to happen. 50 Republicans will vote against it. Large number of Democrats will vote against it. Two, certainly Manchin and Sinema, probably plenty of others. So what we're saying is let's do something to be defeated. Is that a strategy?

[Jimmy Dore]

That's not our strategy.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

I mean, you know, it's nice to have to say I want this, but we're.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's nice to say I want this. What he's talking about is health care, healthcare that he's had his entire life. And in fact, he's had at least Medicare for 40 years at this point. 30 years at this point, because you get it at 65 and he's around 95 or so. So he's had it for 30 years. He's had unlimited health care. But he doesn't. But if you want it, guess what? It's unreasonable. Let's listen to what he says. If you want it.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

Children who say, I want this piece.

[Jimmy Dore]

Of candy, then you're. You're like children who say, you want this piece of candy. That's the verbatim what. What Hillary Clinton would say about Medicare for all. That's verbatim what she would say that you're like a child who wants candy. He's referring to health care in the middle of a pandemic as candy. That's the exact talking points that came directly from the deep state, which Hillary Clinton said all the time. That is not an activist. That is not a guy who stands up for the working people. That is not a guy who stands up for you. That is a guy who's there to trick you. That is a guy who's 100% compromised. That's who Joan Chomsky is to this day, because he's still alive. And that's why he wouldn't come on my show. He would go on shows that had five subscribers. I had millions of subscribers. He wouldn't come on my show.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Yeah. Is that weird?

[Jimmy Dore]

The guy who set up forced the vote, the guy who was having hit pieces written about him in all the establishment magazines and rags. Everybody was. I was trending on Twitter almost every day for months because of it. He wouldn't come on my show because he knew I would expose him. It wouldn't take much.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

I'm going to ask for it even if I'm locked up in my room.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's Noam Chomsky equating health care activists with children who want candy.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Well, what does he call pizza?

[Jimmy Dore]

I wonder, I wonder what he calls pizza. So he was also just, I don't want to spend too much time on this, but he was against, you know, that bds, which sounds like it's got to do with spanking sex, but it's not. It's boycott, divestment and sanctions. So that's. That BDS is when people say, hey, let's get together and boycott Israel. Let's not buy any of the goods that are produced in Israel. And this will be a way for us to pressure their government. The same thing we did with South Africa 30 years, 40 years ago, we did that. They did a. They had a big song by all the musicians and they. And the song was I'm not going to play Sun City, meaning I'm not going to go there. We're going to boycott South Africa. Guess what? It worked.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Yeah. It worked so well that Israel had to secretly give them nuclear weapons and pretend to not like apartheid.

[Jimmy Dore]

So. So he was. So I just want to let you know he's against it.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

So he was not suspicious. No.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's against a non violent way to protest a genocidal government. So Jason Zaharis. I'll just read this because it's perfect. He says Noam Chomsky was a poison on the American left. He taught many generations to dismiss ruling class coordination as a conspiracy theory, often smearing those who risk their careers, like Michael Parenti. Now we already told you that he was the goat. He was the real deal. And Chomsky's a phony. Meanwhile, he was dining with Jeffrey Epstein and flying on his private jet. Chomsky was the perfect encapsulation of the deep State's proxy dissident because he was firmly anti communist and anti Soviet. So the CIA erased his previous activism against the Vietnam War and solidified his position at mit, which is a CIA run institution and therefore Mossad run, which then therefore Mossad run. He then went on to support a number of Washingtons imperial objectives, meaning imperialism. He repeated the State Department's propaganda lines on Libya, on Syria, on Yugoslavia, on China and on Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela in a way that would give the United States justification for sanctions or intervention. He supported two state solution liberal Zionism, essentially formalizing Israel's 1948 Nakba against the Palestinians. He also strongly backed arms to the Ukrainian Nazi regime as they carried out genocide against the ethnic Russians and the Donbass.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Who saw that coming?

[Jimmy Dore]

Who saw that coming? He supported forced vaccinations during COVID and placing the unvaccinated in concentration camps. He denounced, forced the vote and called universal health care advocates children wanting candy. He funneled left wing energy back into the D.C. establishment by endorsing Democrats every four years. He would never endorse an independent. He would never tell you to get in the streets. He would never tell you to protest for anything. He would tell you to keep voting for the people oppressing you. It was these positions that led to further smears against Michael Parenti and other principled authors who not only denounced but also exposed and analyze the class structure of US imperialism. So it's no wonder that as he was condescendingly talking down to the Palestinian led BDS movement, he was meeting privately with one of history's worst Israeli war criminals, Ehud Barak. And worst of all, the meetings were brokered by Jeffrey Epstein himself, the PDF file oligarch and Mossad agent who mass abused and trafficked young girls and coordinated s blackmail operations for the same ruling class that Noam Chomsky defended by dismissing the ideas of coordination as conspiracy theories.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Yeah, the organ thieving class, we'll call them. So let's come back from the start.

[Jimmy Dore]

So I know that there's a lot of people and people I like and respect that still want to praise Noam Chomsky, but I knew he was full of shit during forced to vote. That was it for me. JFK, 9 11. Forced to vote every four years. Telling you to vote for the duopoly. The same corporatists every I knew. But then when forced to vote, I didn't know he had those positions on Syria and Libya. I didn't even know that.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Well, remember he was on the wrong side of Cambodia. He was on the side of Pol Pot, famously. So he's never gotten it right. Who does he work for? Unbelievable, man. That's just unreal. First of all, never believed Israel killed JFK until now. I've just heard two scumbag Mossad agents say who cares who killed jfk?

[Jimmy Dore]

It sounds like Ben Shapiro Kates to me.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Definitive proof Israel did it. You tell me how else to take that, because that's the only way I could see.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to Help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy dork.com clicking on join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. Lindsey Graham has been going on TV and he sounds like Kamala Harris. He sounds like he's mixing booze and Xanax and he's slurring a lot. So here he is from Fox News Sunday. Let's look. Say they're going to push for it. There's no sound. Our cats say they're going to push for it. Well, what really going to push for it.

[Lindsey Graham]

Well, what we're going to do is. Well, I'm not going to agree. That would grind it to a halt. If you had a judicial warrant in all these things, you couldn't. You couldn't deal with mass. We're not. We're not dealing with the. We're trying to get people out of the country have no right to be here. Judge have people who are illegal immigrants. You remember Kim?

[Jimmy Dore]

I mean, he's slurring a lot. Now, if this is a neurological problem, I don't want to make fun of it because that's not right. But what is going on? He is slurring his speech and it does sound like he's drinking and taking Xanax.

[Lindsey Graham]

Legal arm rents. You remember Ken Davis. Have people who are legal and im rents. You remember Kim Davis?

[Jimmy Dore]

I do.

[Lindsey Graham]

Okay. Who's Kim Davis, folks? Nothing to do with illegal immigration.

[Jimmy Dore]

There's nothing to do with illegal immigration. And that's exactly how someone talks when they're drinking. That's exactly what someone sounds like when they're drinking.

[Lindsey Graham]

Kim Davis was a clerk of court in Kentucky. The Supreme Court ruled that the law of the land was that gay marriage was legal. That you gay marriage was recognized under the U.S. constitution. If you didn't recognize gay marriage, you violated the equal protection clause. She's a religious conservative. People applied. Two gay guys applied for a marriage license. She said she wouldn't issue it even though it was the law of the land. She went to jail. I was asked what about it? Well, I agree with her political, philosophical, not her religious views. But she's a public official. She.

[Jimmy Dore]

He couldn't come up with the word philosophy. I didn't agree with her political philosopher. Phil. Yeah, I didn't. I Get. I don't. I didn't go along with her thing. That's wild. This is wild.

[Lindsey Graham]

Has to do this. You can't change the law because you disagree with it. She went to jail. She should have. I think it's a defining moment in his presidency. Ronald Reagan went to the Berlin Wall and he said, tear down this wall. He didn't say, could you make it lower? Biggest thing you could possibly ever do to the Mid east is take this regime down. And they're as weakest they've ever been since 1979. Mr. President, you can do it. I hope you will do it. And if you do, if you do it. This is Reagan Blus.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. This is Reagan what?

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

West.

[Jimmy Dore]

Is that what he said? Reagan blessed? Sound like that.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Well, then let's definitely not do it.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let's. Let's listen to the exact beginning again. And this is what you get for letting Kamala Harris coach you at lunch before your interview. Don't try to keep up with her. You don't have the tolerance, Lindsay. They're going to push for it.

[Lindsey Graham]

Well, what we're going to do is. Well, I'm not going to agree that we're. Grind it to a halt.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm not going to grab. I mean, he can't. He's literally slurring like a drunk. So let's. Here's another one. Lindsey Graham attempting to say he wants sanctuary city policies to end. Let's listen.

[Lindsey Graham]

I want sanctuary city policies.

[Jimmy Dore]

I want sanctuary. Sanctuary. Here we go.

[Lindsey Graham]

I want sanctuary city policy.

[Jimmy Dore]

I wanted to say, Listen, Barney, can you put me in the trunk tank and then I will get up in the morning. It's like a scene from Andy Griffith show where Otis would come in drunk and put himself in jail, sleep there and wake up sober and they'd let him up.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I find it hard to believe that Ms. Lindsey Graham don't have a tolerance. Come on, Lindsey Graham. That's a. That's a chemsex guy if I've ever seen one in my life.

[Lindsey Graham]

I want sanctuary city policy to end.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, here's another one. He's on the. I'm not going to say Senator Graham is drunk because that would be unprofessional. Okay, here we go.

[Lindsey Graham]

But they got to see us fighting. We got to give them a chance to see the difference between us and liberal Democrats. In two weeks, we're going to have.

[Jimmy Dore]

Sounds like Foster Brooks, if you know who that is. He's a famous comedian. His whole gig was he would pretend he was Drunk. He showed up and he would talk like. And that's what he's doing right here.

[Lindsey Graham]

But they got to see us fighting. We got to give them a chance to see the difference. But it's between us and liberal Democrats.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm sorry. The difference between.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Between yo have the decency and. And gravitas to get some coke and even out before you. Big fox.

[Jimmy Dore]

No kidding.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Come on. This is bush league.

[Lindsey Graham]

But they got to see us fighting. We got to give them a chance to see the difference between us and liberal Democrats. In two weeks, we're going to have that chance. And I can't wait to John Kennedy gets on the floor and sticks it to him about the insanity of sanctuary cities. I can't wait till he comes up here tonight.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Let'S listen to that first one again. I think that was the best. This is the best one. Democrats say they're going to push for it.

[Lindsey Graham]

Well, what we're going to do is. Well, I'm not going to agree. That would grind it to a halt. If you had a judicial warrant and all these things. You couldn't deal with Mass. We're not dealing with. We're trying to get people out of the country of no right to be here. Judge have people who are illegal immigrants. You remember Kim Davis?

[Jimmy Dore]

I do. Okay.

[Lindsey Graham]

Who's Kim Davis, folks? Nothing to do with illegal immigration.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's two times in a row. That's like two times within five seconds. I got legal information.

[Lindsey Graham]

Was a clerk of court in Kentucky. The Supreme Court ruled that the law of the land was that gay marriage was legal. That you. Gay marriage was.

[Jimmy Dore]

It was legal. Okay. It's legal. They really ruled. Gay marriage is legal. Okay.

[Lindsey Graham]

Recognized under the U.S. constitution. If you didn't recognize gay marriage, you violated the equal protection clause. She's a religious conservative.

[Jimmy Dore]

She's a religious conservative. Cesar Higgies conservative. Religious conservative.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Look at Steve Bannon laughing at him.

[Jimmy Dore]

Steve Bannon is laughing at him. I see behind your head.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Very amused by Steve.

[Jimmy Dore]

Banded Chomsky thinks it's funny too.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

What's that? Chomsky? It is funny.

[Jimmy Dore]

It is funny.

[Lindsey Graham]

People apply. Two gay guys applied for two guys. He goes too.

[Jimmy Dore]

Gay guys too gay. Too gay.

[Lindsey Graham]

Religious conservatives. People applied. Two gay guys applied for two gay Gaza.

[Jimmy Dore]

Gay Gaza. He is smashed. He's hammers like if he did one of these, it would be all right if he did two vocals. These are unbelievable.

[Lindsey Graham]

Marriage license. She said she wouldn't issue it even though it was the law of the land. She went to jail. I was asked what about it? Well, I agree with her political, philosophical. Not her religious views.

[Jimmy Dore]

Her religious views. This is. I hope he gets a wellness check, because if he's not drinking, then there's something seriously wrong with him. Right. Kirk, have you now you've been around the block? I've been. Spent my whole life in nightclubs.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

I can't fathom it, Jeff. I cannot fathom it because if you're. Who was the guy in the wheelchair? Madison Cawthorn, that said, you know, people were offering him to do coke at parties, people that he looked up to. So I don't know which Republican, but I would bet it's Lindsey Graham. I would have bet it was Lindsey Graham. I would have bet like a guy whose mouth still works at that sex party. And he's a beautiful. Anyway, he don't have blow. What happened? Were we really getting blow from Venezuela?

[Jimmy Dore]

You know, he. I think he drinks because we let him down. That's what I. We won't. We won't go in. We won't. We're against the war in Iran and I'm sorry, we didn't put boots on the ground in Venezuela yet. And that's why I think he's drinking, because we really thought we were going.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

To get the boots on the ground, get some murals. But all those murals are in Iran. They got murals. I just bought a carpet for five bucks. Remember, he was. He went to Iraq and I got carpet for five bucks.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yep. Yeah. Okay, that's. Let's. Let's. Lindsey Graham.

[Lindsey Graham]

But she's a public official. She has to do this. You can't change the law because you disagree with it. She went to jail. She should have. I think it's a defining moment in his presidency. Ronald Reagan went to the Berlin Wall and he said, tear down this wall. He didn't say, could you make it lower?

[Jimmy Dore]

Biggest thing lower, by the way.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Pretty sure Ronald Reagan was when they instituted sanctuary cities. The Republicans did. Yes, to lower your goddamn wages. So, like, he was there for this. I know he don't remember what happened.

[Lindsey Graham]

You could possibly ever do to the Mid east is take this regime down. And they're as weakest they've ever been since 1979. Mr. President. You can do it. I hope you will do it. And if you do, if you do it, this is Reagan bliss.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay? This is Reagan blus. That's what I. That's what I think he was trying to say. Plus. And he. His eyes look hammered. He looks hammered. And when he says, this is. This is Reagan blus. I Think he meant to say plus.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

So it's Reagan who instituted sanctuary cities. Plus we're getting rid of them. He's hammered. Got hammered.

[Jimmy Dore]

He is. He's on something. I mean, we made fun of Kamala Harris when she was obviously on taking too many Xanax. And so we gotta. We gotta. We gotta bring it to.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

I don't want to be optimistic, Jimmy, but are we not gonna have war in Iran? Because he has not been the same since the first day of not having war in Iran.

[Jimmy Dore]

I know. He's been different.

[Erica Kirk (Former TPUSA Employee)]

No kidding.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

That's why I trust what Professor Zhang said to me. Because he said Russia and China helped Iran go through Starlink and track all those Mossads that were starting the BLM riots. But worse because they were shooting at cops and shit. So that's probably why we didn't go in. If I had to guess, why is because they knew.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, because they knew they killed all the violent actors. Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

So that's who was keeping it going.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

He was really depressed, dude. He was like, no, we stand with you.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. So they got. So do you think they successfully weeded out the most, if not all of the Mossad violent actors that were making the protest violent?

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

I'm not even sure Professor Zhang is even a professor. I was unclear. I think he's just a high school teacher, but apparently that's open news. That's known. Pretty well known. He told me China and Israel very close. I know it might seem like they're against each other to peasants, but they're cool. But China and Russia help with that Iran thing, and they traced him through the Starlink. He was very specific. It's on the episode of Derp with Kirp and. Ok, the coincidences were. I heard about the Venezuela interfering with our elections thing, which sounded like nonsense early on, and he brought that up and he said, how would Maduro be there unless him and his wife are both kidnapped? Unless he's in on it. And then this guy is upset because they killed all those Kurds that the Mossad ran. It was mostly Kurds doing that. Do you know that? Mossad run Kurds?

[Jimmy Dore]

No, I didn't know that, dude.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Professor Jane gave me again. Let's. What? Maybe he's a Chinese spy that's just giving me information. I don't give a shit. It looks like it's bearing out, does it not?

[Jimmy Dore]

Oi. I don't want any trouble. That's all.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Dude. Lindsey, we gotta get him. We stand with you. That's such a funny clip.

[Jimmy Dore]

I gotta get that on the soundboard we stand with. You.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Just hit it after. Oh, wait till you see the argument I had today.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, really? Oh, you were on a podcast before this, right? Okay. Who was. What was the podcast?

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Oh, it was my friend Lev, but. But he wanted me to talk to his other friend from an institute from a think tank.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, About?

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Oh, boy. Get this, Jimmy. He's both a hardcore Zionist and he wants to keep Ukraine going, so, like, the best of both worlds.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, my God, I wish I have been there. That would have been fun.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

It was just really me yelling at someone a lot, but I feel very entertaining. I couldn't believe the shit they were saying these people have. No, the think tank ones are dumb as shit. Like, they don't really know anything. How many of these people high up do you realize don't know anything because they're trained to never look at the big picture on purpose. It's a virtue.

[Jimmy Dore]

But they do say things like, we should have the only standing blue Water Navy.

[Noam Chomsky (Quoted/Referenced)]

That.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's. They call it Blue Water Navy. I never heard.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

He told me Max Blumenthal is a scumbag. This kabod plant of a dude from a think tank.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, my God.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

I'm like, why does it have the foreign accent? Tell me where my money should go to what country? That's the most galling part of all.

[Jimmy Dore]

And they always. And they always hate the journalists who the establishment media also hate. Isn't that funny? It's like, really? So the establishment media hates this guy, but you also hate this guy? I think I get it, dude.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

A bunch of these people are under the impression. You know how everybody hated that Joe Rogan had a podcast that did better than the news.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

And. But couldn't somehow put together that maybe your side is so obviously wrong to anyone with less money than you at this point, that that might be why then you fucked up. They cannot get that in their head. It's that they have in their head, like, oh, I know it's. I know it's popular to say that. AIPAC's problem. I know it's really, like, why do you think that is?

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, I know. Why do you think it is popular to say that?

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Oh, I know it's cool to say Ukraine's not working out. Yeah, now it is. Now that it's obviously not working out. Asshole. I said it the whole time.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. We said at day one that this war is going to end on Russia's terms, the way they want it. The latest whistleblower from inside TP USA there's been a lot of whistleblowers from inside TP usa. Here's the latest. There's now we know that Erica referred she's. She pretended to be upset at Candace Owens looking into who really killed Charlie Kirk. She pretended to. What made her upset about that was that people were casting aspersions on people who worked for TP USA and she called them her family. And if you go after my family, which of course we know, they're not your family. They're employees at a giant quarter billion dollar corporation. They're not your family. But that's what that was her. That's how she referred to the employees at TP USA as her family. And then we find out that they're firing everybody at the TP USA in the most disgusting ways. Right. So we've already played a video that one woman, when she was being fired, she was pleading for a reason and they wouldn't give her a reason why they were firing her. They just were firing her. And that's that after she got done working for weeks and weeks, if not months, at 20 hours a day making sure everything. So she was certainly part of the TPUs family and she certainly worked at a high level. And they just fired her and she was really beside herself. It was evil what they did. It was beyond distasteful or rude. It was evil. And now here's another woman who got fired because of a TP USA executive having a conversation with an Uber driver and an Uber driver implicated said this woman was saying bad things about didn't believe the official TPUSA story about the assassination. So they fired her. Here she is, she's going to talk, she's going to get something to say.

[Erica Kirk (Former TPUSA Employee)]

I was terminated from Turning Point because I am questioning the narrative of what happened to my role model and CEO Charlie Kirk on the day of his assassination. What is being told to us in the mainstream media just really doesn't add up to me. And I'm really hopeful that one day it will, but as it stands right now, it just doesn't. And so I've been here in the background talking with people, expressing how I truly feel. Because as an American citizen, I have the right to my freedom of speech and my freedom of thought. And I have a lot of concerns and a lot of questions about what took place that day and the events leading up to that day. It is from my own experience, experience that you can't question the narrative and work at Turning Point. That is how I feel. That is how other people I've talked to feel it goes against everything that Charlie ever stood for. Charlie was someone who did question things, who did challenge the narrative. And I know that if anything, anything at all were to have happened to myself or another employee or any other peer within the Turning Point Point family, that Charlie would be doing the same thing. If we were brutally assassinated in the way that he was, he would have never lived it down. And that is what I'm standing by as well. I am not going to just idly sit by and hope that the truth comes to light. I'm going to take action. I'm going to ask questions, I'm going to talk to other people. And I refuse to apologize for having my own freedom of thought, which is something that Charlie ingrained in me and so many other young people. So really, the purpose of me coming on here and speaking with you today is to just bring light to the situation of the treatment happening inside the organization. All of these people who have been terminated were the most hard working, loyal, honest employees that Turning Point has ever had. And I know that because I've actually been at Turning Point longer than most people.

[Jerry (Insurance App Advertiser)]

You can.

[Erica Kirk (Former TPUSA Employee)]

That's public record. You can see it for yourself on these job websites. Turningpoint's average length of employment is about a year and a half to two. And so to be there for almost five years is actually quite some time. I've seen the media and marketing team, for example, turnover at least twice, consuming of about 40 people. And so I know that these people have been some of the most loyal, hardworking and honest individuals to ever pass through the organization because I've been there, done that, and seen it all. I'm doing this for them and I'm doing this for my friends who I consider family, who are still there in hopes that they will start to receive better treatment by the leadership there. Because nobody deserves to be let go without cause. And frankly, it's a loss for Turning Point. We're all going to be better off because of this because we have removed ourselves from an environment that was no longer serving us and in my opinion, no longer serving the Lord, which was Charlie's entire intention.

[Jimmy Dore]

So, Baron, what's your reaction to that video and the fact that they've turned Turning Point into the exact opposite thing that Charlie Kirk was about, which was about freedom of thought, asked me question everything and now they're firing summarily people without cause because they just don't think exactly the way Erica Kirk does. What's your response?

[Guest Analyst/Commentator]

Well, first, I find that woman eminently believable yes. Like I, you know, you, you, you get a sense when someone's talking, whether you believe them or not. That's why I don't believe anything Erica Kirk says. You, you just get this sense when someone's talking you. Whether they're full of it or not. And I find that woman very believable right there. Aubrey Lage. So, so I took everything she said. I actually watched that video about 10 times before I talked about it last night. And I. The conclusion I came to was that Charlie had lost complete control of the organization. And he was, he had become an impediment to the mission of the people who he initially surrounded himself with, but who had squeezed him out of operational control over his own organization. He didn't have control over his messaging, he didn't have control over his schedule. He didn't have. He lost control of absolutely every aspect of TP USA by the time he passed away. And, and so finally he just had to be squeezed out for good.

[Jimmy Dore]

And you would think, I mean, do you. To me, it seems that the people at TP usa, not only are they corrupt and probably, probably criminally corrupt, they're definitely covering up what happened at the assassination, but they're the. Some of the dumbest people in the world because of how badly everything they're saying and doing looks to normal people who aren't on the take. Right. And so did they really think they were going to be able to fire their most loyal employees in such a heinous way without cause and have it not blow back on them? So, I mean, what do you, do you have any special take on how bad they are just at pr?

[Guest Analyst/Commentator]

Well, all you have to do is look, I mean, they could have come out and really taken control of the narrative initially. As soon as they realized people didn't buy the, the official Fed slop narrative right out of the gate, they, you know, tpusa had every opportunity to come out and say, look, we've got a lot of different camera angles. We're going to, we'll edit this down so it's not gory. We don't want to, you know, disrespect Charlie's legacy, but we'll let you know absolutely everything everybody was doing every step of the way. When, when the widow is lying and getting caught lying over and over and over again. And I believe she was, I obviously, I don't have access to, to her personal conversations, but, you know, I believe the reporting that she's being dishonest. It, it raises the specter that Everybody around her is also being dishonest because none of them are calling her out. You know, Andrew Corvette, who is the lead spokesperson and frankly, doing a horrific job. But he's the lead spokesperson. Yeah, he's. He's allowing Erica Kirk to lie about conversations he supposedly had about Twitter messages he put out, and she's just running over him with the bus and he's. And he's not stopping it, and. And it makes her look bad. It makes the entire organization look bad. I've talked to employees about how the employees are treated, how they're paid. It is a. It's a nightmare. Below the upper, upper levels, the highest levels of tpusa, the employees don't feel like they're being respected, listened to, believed, or heard in any. In any manner whatsoever.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, become a premium member. Go to jimmy door comedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be, and I'll keep being me. Don't freak out.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Don't freak out.

[Jimmy Dore]

Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Do not freak out. I'm not in it.

[Guest Analyst/Commentator]

Do not.

[Co-host/Guest (Conspiracy Theorist/Commentator)]

Do not.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

[Guest Analyst/Commentator]

Freak out.

[Jimmy Dore]

Do not freak out.