Douglas Murray Punches Himself In The D*ck In Epic Meltdown!

Summary

Summary of "Douglas Murray Punches Himself In The D*ck In Epic Meltdown!"

Podcast: The Jimmy Dore Show
Host: Jimmy Dore
Release Date: April 25, 2025

Introduction

In this episode, Jimmy Dore engages in a satirical and combative discussion centered around Douglas Murray, a British author and political commentator. The episode features a mock conversation with George Clooney, setting a humorous tone before delving into serious critiques of Murray's viewpoints and recent public appearances.

Satirical Opening with George Clooney [00:21 - 07:24]

Jimmy begins with a humorous skit featuring "George Clooney," who discusses his upcoming Broadway production of "Good Night and Good Luck." This segment serves as a playful introduction, mocking the intersection of Hollywood and politics.

Notable Quote:
George Clooney: "We're bound to rub shoulders. But I really let it all out there and I thought if I'm going to tap dance with Tappity Tapper, I should keep the door open with door and have a chit chat with him too." [01:29]

Critique of George Clooney's Political Stance [03:00 - 06:54]

The conversation takes a sharp turn as "George Clooney" expresses disdain for Democratic figures like Jill Biden and Kamala Harris, portraying them as ineffective and out of touch. He sarcastically suggests that the Democrats should accept their failures and move forward without these leaders.

Notable Quote:
George Clooney: "If we're going to move forward as a party, we need to withstand a little self flagellation over that, the biggest political mistake in modern fucking history." [03:55]

Transition to Douglas Murray's Criticism [07:26 - 34:32]

Jimmy shifts the focus to Douglas Murray, condemning his perspectives on various global conflicts and criticizing his expertise. He argues that Murray lacks credible knowledge on topics like the Iraq, Afghanistan, and Ukraine wars, labeling him as an unreliable commentator.

Notable Quotes:
Jimmy Dore: "Douglas Murray has been wrong about everything. He has no standards." [07:26]
Jimmy Dore: "You can't make this stuff up because he doesn't have. Because he doesn't have an argument." [18:52]

Analysis of Douglas Murray's Media Presence [34:29 - 26:36]

Dore dissects Murray's attempts to establish credibility through media appearances, particularly his participation in Joe Rogan's podcast. He accuses Murray of misrepresenting facts and aligning himself with conspiracy theorists, thereby undermining his own arguments.

Notable Quotes:
Jimmy Dore: "He thinks highly of Douglas Murray too. Well, I guess up until this." [22:23]
Jimmy Dore: "This is who cheating is and should be listened to. As if he has any body of work." [24:55]

Debunking Murray's Claims and Media Standards [34:32 - 34:22]

Jimmy argues that Murray's critiques of journalism are unfounded, asserting that mainstream media consistently fails to uphold standards by misreporting significant events like COVID-19 and various international conflicts. He contends that Murray's attacks are an attempt to discredit media without offering substantive alternatives.

Notable Quotes:
Jimmy Dore: "The corporate media has zero standards, which is why shows like this exist." [34:22]
Jimmy Dore: "This is the establishment media and the Zionists losing. This is the neocons losing the argument." [07:44]

Discussion on Media and Expertise [34:32 - 34:50]

Dore emphasizes the importance of expertise in media discourse, criticizing Murray for presenting himself without credible qualifications. He underscores the necessity for accurate information and accountability in journalism, contrasting it with what he perceives as Murray's flawed approach.

Notable Quotes:
Jimmy Dore: "If you have expertise, you don't go around telling people, I have expertise. You exhibit your expertise and everyone sees it." [28:20]
Jimmy Dore: "He has no standards and gets everything wrong." [34:32]

Concluding Remarks and Call to Action [35:14 - 48:53]

The episode concludes with Jimmy shifting topics to climate change, critiquing proposed geoengineering solutions like sun dimming. He juxtaposes these scientific endeavors with the hypocrisy of political figures who advocate for environmental measures while engaging in environmentally harmful activities themselves.

Notable Quotes:
Jimmy Dore: "They're spraying aluminum. We already..." [37:19]
Jimmy Dore: "The corporate media has zero standards, which is why shows like this exist." [34:22]
Jimmy Dore: "The uncomfortable truth is that our current warming trajectory makes a number of such tipping points distinctly possible." [49:54]
Jimmy Dore: "They could take over the Dutch farms. Too much nitrogen." [42:27]

Final Thoughts

Throughout the episode, Jimmy Dore maintains a critical stance towards both Douglas Murray and mainstream media, advocating for more accountable and transparent discourse. He encourages listeners to question established narratives and supports alternative perspectives that challenge the status quo.

Notable Quotes from Conclusion

Jimmy Dore: "You don't support a normal state that commits genocide. And now that Israel has been normalized, people are reacting on what they see. And what they see is unbearable." [55:48]
Jimmy Dore: "John Kerry was saying there's going to have ice-free summers in the Arctic. Didn't happen." [50:13]
Jimmy Dore: "Manufacturing Consent by Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky..." [31:24]

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Note: This summary encapsulates the primary discussions and critiques presented by Jimmy Dore in the episode, highlighting his views on Douglas Murray, media standards, and climate change policies. The timestamps correspond to segments where notable statements are made, providing context and direct quotations for reference.

Transcript

[Jimmy Dore]

Come see us on tour. We're going to be in Bakersfield, San Jose, California, Buffalo, New York, Toledo, Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, Glasgow, Manchester, Belfast, Dublin, Liverpool, Birmingham and London. Go to jimmy dore.com for a link for tickets. Hey, this is Jimmy. Who's this?

[George Clooney]

Hey, Jimmy, this is George Clooney.

[Jimmy Dore]

Ah, hey, friend of the show. George Clooney.

[George Clooney]

How you doing, Jimmy, you old rascal? I am doing fantastic. Just backstage at our production of Good Night and Good Luck which is opening soon on Broadway. What?

[Jimmy Dore]

You can't. You can't be. After all the Russia gating you guys just did for 10 years, you're going to do a revival of Good Night and Good Luck, the play that is supposed to expose the McCarthy era.

[George Clooney]

Yeah, and I'm playing Edward R. Murrow. That's why I had my hair dyed.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh my God. Well, that's not what this. No. Well, anyway, okay. Well, glad to hear you're doing that.

[George Clooney]

You know, I sat down here in the theater the other day and gave a long interview to Jake Tapper of cnn. You know him?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, yeah, you're friends of the show. Jake Tapper.

[George Clooney]

Of course, we all know each other. Movers and shakers like you and me and Taps are just going to simply. We're bound to rub shoulders. But I really let it all out there and I thought if I'm going to tap dance with Tappity Tapper, I should keep the door open with door and have a chit chat with him too.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, I appreciate you thinking of our little mom and pop operation. You two discussed your op ed, right?

[George Clooney]

Yes, the infamous George Clooney op ed in the nyt urging Joe Biden to step aside before this country goes belly up like the Poseidon.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm sorry, George, are you speaking cool cat again?

[George Clooney]

Well, I just figured I would seeing as how I'm talking to the coolest of cats. You don't need me to translate, do you?

[Jimmy Dore]

No, I think I got it.

[George Clooney]

Top shelf, kemo sabe. As I told Jake, I felt that writing that was a civic duty. And I certainly received some accolades for my efforts. But as I alluded, some people are still sore at me in the democratic circles I run in.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah? Like who?

[George Clooney]

Well, I don't want to be gossipy. It doesn't really matter. That's not the point. The point is you can't please everybody.

[Jimmy Dore]

Come on, please tell me who Jill Biden fucking hates.

[George Clooney]

Me. Sorry, Dr. Jill Biden. That bird is a hater. Major hater. Alligator.

[Jimmy Dore]

Not Joe Biden, Jimmy.

[George Clooney]

He doesn't Even remember being president. He's not mad about something that was in a newspaper a year ago.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow.

[George Clooney]

Oh, yeah, trust me, Elvis has left the building.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[George Clooney]

Also, I said there should have been a primary to replace him, which makes Kamala Harris not my biggest fan because the implication is clear. She was never going to fucking win. She's a bozo. She ran on identity. And now Trump is president again.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yep.

[George Clooney]

So let's be real for a second. If we Democrats really want to take a good look at why we lost, I say we all sit down and just stare at a giant wall sized picture of that ding a ling for about two or three hours.

[Jimmy Dore]

Damn.

[George Clooney]

Just sit there in silence, staring at Kamala Harris, contemplating reflecting. Like a fucking Quaker meeting. Just quietly thinking to ourselves, wow, we thought running her would be a good idea. We actually thought she might be president.

[Jimmy Dore]

Pretty crazy in retrospect.

[George Clooney]

If we're going to move forward as a party, we need to withstand a little self flagellation over that, the biggest political mistake in modern fucking history. And then never speak her name again. Not once.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow, that's harsh.

[George Clooney]

Yeah, she doesn't like me either.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Well, then who should the Democrats look to for leadership moving forward? Oh my God. I want to know.

[George Clooney]

Well, you know, I tossed out the usual suspects. Whitmer, Pritzker, not Gavin Newsom. But as I said to Tappies, one guy levitates over all the others.

[Jimmy Dore]

And who's that?

[George Clooney]

Maryland Governor Wes Moore. This guy is a rising star. He's a dynamic leader. He's young and exciting. I'm all in for Wes Moore. I'm telling you, Jimmy west is Moore.

[Jimmy Dore]

Why him?

[George Clooney]

Because no one has ever fucking heard of him.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right?

[George Clooney]

And that's the key to any real Democratic success. Republicans win when they run a well known elder statesman. Dems win when they run guys with a major who the fuck is that guy Factor. Bill Clinton. Who the fuck is that guy? Barack Obama. No, seriously, who the fuck is that guy? I see Westmore is the ultimate. Who the fuck is that guy? No name recog whatsoever. Nice looking guy. Generic, racially ambiguous. Likes to go around talking to people, taking off his sports jacket and rolling up his sleeves. That sleeve thing is mondo important. See, that's what turns the corner. Who the fuck is this guy? I don't know, but he's rolling up his sleeves to talk to us. Let's vote for this guy for president, whoever the fuck he is. It's that simple.

[Jimmy Dore]

Honestly, this is the most honest strategy talk I've ever heard from a Democrat. I think you missed your calling.

[George Clooney]

I think I'm doing fine, Jimmy. Something tells me Paul Begala isn't pulling the quality of tail I am. I did fuck his wife, though. George, it was a prank. Seriously, though, you are right. Begala, Axelrod, Carville. None of these dinosaurs are doing anyone any favors. They need a pragmatist, and they don't have one. God damn it. Maybe I will do it. I got the President to fucking resign after all.

[Jimmy Dore]

Get in there, George. Tell him what's what.

[George Clooney]

Jimmy, this is exactly the kind of pep talk I needed. I'm an actor that dabbles in politics to the point where maybe I should do more than dabble. I could be a real kingmaker. Get your little voice guy to work on a West Moore, because you're gonna need it. Flapjack.

[Jimmy Dore]

Very exciting, Jimmy.

[George Clooney]

Always invigorating. I gotta go. This director is all the way up my ass, between you and me. Oh, and I left tickets for you, Steph, for Saturday's show because you are friends with George Clooney. Dream come true for any cool cat. And thank you for making this Good Friday a great Friday.

[Jimmy Dore]

Ciao, baby. Establishment media sucks all G, so good luck.

[Unknown]

Bullshit we can't afford.

[Jimmy Dore]

Why fomenting watching CS is Jack Golf. The medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on. It's the chimney door show. Let's remember that Douglas Murray wrote this book, Neoconservatism and why We Need It.

[Unknown]

So as true today as it was in 2006.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's like neoconservatism is what got us the Iraq war, the Afghanistan war, the Libyan war, the Ukraine war, the Syrian war. That's called neoconservatism. Okay? And so Douglas Murray, coincidentally, for all those wars, even though he's an expert and he has an accent, so he got his ass handed to him, and he decided to go to the New York Post. That. Which. Anyway, he went to the New York Post, which is a joke of a newspaper in New York. But anyway, they don't do all. Not everything they do is bad. And they printed an op ed by him, and it's called Douglas Murray. So called Israel, Hamas, Ukraine War Experts spew false info on Joe Rogan's podcast. There has to be a standard. So he. That's just. The headline is just a lie. And there is no standard in journalism. There's. There's no standard. There has to be a standard. How about you start. How about you start with a standard for journalism? Journalism got everything wrong about COVID They get Everything wrong about Russiagate. They get everything wrong about the Iraq war, the Libyan war, the Afghanistan war, and the Ukraine war. They still won't tell people how it started and why. They got everything wrong. Everything. They got the biggest story of their life wrong. Covid. They got Ivermectin wrong. They got the vaccine transmission, contraction wrong. They got where the virus came from, who funded the virus. They got everything wrong. They got lockdowns wrong. They got masks wrong. There wasn't a thing they didn't get wrong. You know who got it right? Joe Rogan show. Joe Rogan show. You know, got Russiagate right, this show. And you don't have to be an expert to know when someone's lying. You don't have to be an expert to know when the war machine is lying. And all I have to do is use my common sense and my BS detector. And. And so this, this is. This is the. This is the establishment media and the Zionists losing. This is the neocons losing the argument. And so they want to shut people up by saying, you don't get it right to say anything. We have to impose some standards. There's no standards when it comes to the establishment corporate journalism. There's zero standards. They lie as they breathe. They lie. But there isn't a thing they haven't lied about about COVID There isn't a thing they didn't lie about about Russiagate. There isn't a thing they didn't lied about January 6th. There isn't a thing they haven't lied about when it comes to Ukraine war, the Iraq war, the Libyan war, the Syrian war, the Afghanistan war was 20 years of straight lies, as the Afghan papers reveal. So this idea that the corporate media has some sort of standards is a lie. They lied to you about Ivermectin. They lied to you about hydroxychloroquine. There isn't a thing they don't lie about. And they lied to you about Joe Rogan. They lied to you. They colored his face green to make him look sicker than he was when he beat Covid. They lied to you about Dr. Robert Malone. They lied to you about every. There is again, Peter McCullough. They lied about everybody and they smear everybody. The people on the liars are Dr. Fauci, Peter Hotez and the corporate media. So he wrote this, and we're just going to go through it. This is what I would call strike three for Douglas Murray. So they're scrambling because they know they got exposed. They're scrambling. And so he runs and writes this thing. And again, Dave. Dave Smith's big argument on Joe Rogan show was engage me in the argument. Quit telling me I'm not an expert. If I'm not an expert, you should be able to wipe the floor with.

[Unknown]

Me or teach me something.

[Jimmy Dore]

Or teach me something.

[Unknown]

So expert.

[Jimmy Dore]

Haven't not spoken to Joe since the wars in Ukraine and Israel started. I'd become increasingly irked that the guests he has had on have been almost entirely anti Ukraine and anti Israel. Okay, that's not true. Joe said on plenty of people. Elon Musk. Is there a bigger cuck to Israel than Elon Musk? He's had enough. He had Trump on for F sake. Two of the biggest cucks to Israel.

[Unknown]

In a world Rich Voss gave him a paper map.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right. He's had on plenty of people. He's also had on Brett Weinstein, he's had on Eric Weinstein. He's had all these people. So. So. And I, I didn't even. That's out just off the top of my head. That's just off the top of my head. Oh, how about Gad Sad. He's that on Gad Said. That's another guy off the top of my head. Thousand percent Zionist. So it's pronounced God Saad, however you name. However I don't know how you say it. So and so. He's just lot so that's just a lot. He starts off by arguing for people to tell the truth with a huge lie. Many of the latter in particular. The latter meaning the anti Israel are not just vindictively and maliciously anti Israel as opposed to the people who are anti anti Hamas and anti Palestine. Ok. But have been spewing claims that are demonstrably false. Well then show us the claims that they're spewing. Quit Satan. That's all they do.

[Unknown]

I know for a fact Dave Smith ain't malicious. Eddie and Carol, I've never seen him say anything remotely. In fact, they all have qualifiers out the ass before they tell you these things.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. So get back to this. He says many are also people who are simply in no way expert is what they are talking about. Well, Douglas, you're not an expert in anything. You have an undergraduate degree in English lit and you got every war wrong. You're not an expert on anything. You're wrong about Iraq, you're wrong about Ukraine, you're wrong about. I'm sure. Could you look up Steph to see if Douglas Murray, if he was, he was pro Libya and Pro Syria.

[Unknown]

I bet he was.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm going to bet a thousand percent he was. One of these is comedian who goes by the name of Dave Smith. Why do you want to make people hate you even more by talking in such a condescending manner? He goes by the name. How about one of these is comedian Dave Smith? He goes by the name.

[Unknown]

Is he suggesting that Dave, like BB Netanyahu, has four different Social Security numbers.

[Jimmy Dore]

With four different names? Are you suggesting, Douglas, that just like every Israeli prime minister changed their name to sound less European because they're not from Israel, because they're not from the region. Every. Every Israel prime minister has changed their name. So you don't know that they're actually European and they're not Semites.

[Unknown]

Claiming some Jewish.

[Jimmy Dore]

Claiming some Jewish ancestry. You mean he claimed what? You wouldn't say that about anybody else claiming some Jewish. He doesn't claim his mother and father are Jewish.

[Unknown]

Like Bill Maher.

[Jimmy Dore]

He has spent the. Bill Maher is half even Bill Maher. He's James David doesn't meet the rules.

[Unknown]

But his dad was Jewish. His mom was Catholic. It's if your mom was Jewish.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Dave Smith more Jewish than Bill Maher. But he would never say that about Bill Maher. He would never say Bill Maher who claims some Jewish ancestry. He would never say that. Bill Maher's mother Catholic.

[Unknown]

He thinks he's trying to make like Dave Smith's a Whoopi Goldberg.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's. Yeah. Yes, exactly. He has spent the 18 months since October 7th being very unfunny indeed. What? What? What? It. Indeed. You've never been. Have you ever been to one of his comedy shows? Never. You've never been.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Have the courtesy to have been to his comedy show. The courtesy.

[Jimmy Dore]

So according to this, according to Grok, Douglas Murray has been nuanced when it came to Libya. There's no nuance. So he was wrong about it. His writings and public statements provide insight into his views, often shaped by his broader. And the rise of. He's. He's concerned about the rise of Islamism. Let's break it down. He has not directly stated a pro war stance on Libyan intervention, but critics have accused him of downplaying or whitewashing the consequences of Western involvement. In his book the Strange Death of Europe Immigration Identity, Murray discussed the migration waves into Europe, including the. Yeah. That were triggered by the Libyan war. Anyway, so, okay, so he's. Yes. So specifically, he has decided. This is what. Back to the article specifically, Dave Smith had decided to spend his time going around the by the way. So he's been very funny. Unfunny indeed. Have you ever been to one of his comedy shows? You've never been. Wouldn't you at least have the courtesy to attend one of his comedy shows if you're going to opine on his comedy saying it's unfunny indeed. You've never been. Where's my fainting couch? You've never been to Dave's stand up shows. Specifically, he has decided to spend his time going around the podcast world sounding off about Israel.

[Unknown]

He has a job called podcasting that. He made a successful show that people like jerk off. Nobody even read your stupid book about why we need neoconservatism. That's why I had to dig it up and repost it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Now in the process, he largely cites people like him, people who have many views but no obvious expertise. Well, I always, I always cite Norman Finkelstein, who's a scholar and a Jew, a Jewish scholar. And I also Chris Hedges, who's also a scholar who lived in Gaza, who's been there and reported there. He was Middle east for years and years. That's who. That's who I quote all the time. So again, that's another lie. People like Darrell Cooper, who says he isn't a historian yet has been invited onto some of the world's biggest podcasts as a historian.

[Unknown]

Did someone call him that? And besides Douglas, because, like, they claim to be experts. I've never heard Dave Smith say I'm an expert.

[Jimmy Dore]

In fact, he says quite the opposite.

[Unknown]

I'm still not clear why Expert means you can't ask an expert to answer a goddamn question.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Unknown]

I thought I'm supposed to have dumb questions and an expert, because they're not dumb, has the answer. So here I'm not aware of this thing that I can't talk about it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, here's where he punches himself right in the dick as hard as he could. He says another such figure from the world of comedy who was changing his shape to fit the time as Rogan guest, Ian Carroll. So I guess there's no standards at the New York Post because that's a complete lie. Ian, Ian Carroll is not from comedy. He's not a comedian, sells T shirts. He's not a comedian. He's just a podcaster and an Instagram guy and a Twitter guy. That's what he is. He's a conspiracy theorist guy who's very interesting and gets a lot of stuff right. So 100% wrong right there. Where's Your standard. Did you even look up Ian Carroll? You never. You've never looked him up? Have you ever been to his website? You've never been.

[Unknown]

You never had the courtesy.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wouldn't you do the courtesy? This is someone who, when he last went on Rogan's podcast, very carefully tried to minimize the evil of Adolf Hitler. He's making that up. That didn't happen again.

[Unknown]

How did he do that?

[Jimmy Dore]

So there's no standards. So this guy who wants standards has absolutely no standards and gets everything wrong.

[Unknown]

He.

[Jimmy Dore]

Even in his article about having standards, he didn't. He didn't do that.

[Unknown]

Ian should never be booked as a comedian again. I say.

[Jimmy Dore]

I say outrageously and completely falsely. Carroll claimed that in the 1930s, Hitler had kept his anti Semitism down. He didn't do that. Ian Carol didn't do that. He's complete. Well, he's try. He's conflating. What. What's that guy's name? Daryl Cooper. And he's lying about what Daryl Cooper said. That's not what Daryl Cooper said. I'm not. I'm not defending or Daryl Cooper. I'm just letting you know that's not what he said.

[Unknown]

Yeah, well, I mean, I suspected it wasn't because it's very low on details.

[Jimmy Dore]

But anyway, doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Ian Carl didn't say that. Doesn't matter. That's not what Ian Carroll said. That's what it doesn't matter. Approvable false claim that Rogan did nothing to counter. All these men have. Have also, by the way, there's lots of historians, actual historians, who say that. Anyway, all these men have also been palling around online with Holocaust deniers and proud anti Semites like Jake Shields. So what is that? What's that called? That's called guilt by association. Again, another smarmy, sleazy, scuzzy, underhanded tactic. That is not an argument. That's what people who don't have arguments do. That's what people who get everything wrong do. They use arguments and tactics like that. Two weeks ago. Two weeks ago, Rogan on, his mate Dave Smith on yet again for a long podcast. They're all three hours. All of Joe shows are three hours again. But for my return to the show, the deal was that I could come on only if Dave Smith was once again in the studio. As if Joe didn't want to be unaccompanied. No, Joe didn't. Joe's not. Doesn't have knowledge about the shit you're about to spew. So he brought someone on who does.

[Unknown]

Have knowledge called cutting out the middleman Douglas, so you could talk directly to the guy.

[Jimmy Dore]

So you're learning. So you're upset that Joe doesn't have people on to push back against people, but when he does have someone on to push back against you, somehow that's out of bounds. Isn't that interesting? And you're the expert, so why couldn't you wipe the floor with that non expert, Dave Smith? Because you're not an expert and you're wrong about everything. There isn't a thing you haven't been wrong about. Okay, he might have been right about COVID I think he might have been right about that, and I think he might have been. And he was good in the monk debates when he was with Matt Taibbi. So. But everything else, he goes, I like a debate, or that Joe thought it was I of all his guests who must be challenged. So he, Joe, should challenge other people, just not me.

[Unknown]

But it's really not about you. It was about the Gaza situation.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Unknown]

You know, like, it wasn't like a thing to get Douglas Murray right.

[Jimmy Dore]

It was.

[Unknown]

It was because he thought highly of Douglas Murray too. Well, I guess up until this.

[Jimmy Dore]

Up until this, I like a debate just as much as the next Scotsman. But what resulted was more than a debate. It seemed to have led to some kind of podcast world meltdown. No, it didn't. It. It turned out to be you melting down and writing bullshit articles like this going on, Bill Maher lying, and everybody else lying that you did a good job on Joe Rogan when you obviously got your ass handed to you by a comedian because you didn't want to engage in any of the arguments. The. The meltdown was on your side. So this is, this is again, accuse the other person of exactly what you're guilty of. The first reason was that from the outset, I challenged Joe on his choice of guests and why he had been giving a platform to only one side of a debate, and a very conspiratorial one at that. Okay, we already debunked that. That's not true. He and Smith were immediately defensive. But the real problem came when I raised the issue of expertise, because as I had said then and have said often, we have lived through a period when the experts have gotten an awful lot of things wrong. Yeah, like everything.

[Unknown]

Most of the things from the COVID.

[Jimmy Dore]

Lab League to the Hunter Biden laptop. We have lived through years after which distrust of experts have become inevitable. So what this is called is this is called a limited hangout. So when you're caught, when the experts have been exposed for being liars and wrong about everything, you admit to some of it. And that's what this is. He's admitting to some of it in order to try to give himself some credibility when he says the next line. Yet that doesn't mean that expertise does not exist. That's called a strawman. No one is claiming that expertise does not exist.

[Unknown]

There's no such thing as that. Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

No one.

[Unknown]

That's like Bigfoot.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, the strawman. So that's called the strawman. No one's arguing that point. So again, he won't ever engage in actual arguments. And then he creates straw men to argue against. That's one of them. It does not mean that a comedian can simply hold himself out as a Middle east expert. Dave does not do that. That's another straw man. Straw man. Straw man. Wrong about everything. This is the way Douglas Murray argues and should be listened to. As if he has any body of work. Don't need to have a body of work to have an opinion.

[Unknown]

His body of work is better than yours.

[Jimmy Dore]

Doug. That's right. His body of work actually turns out to be better than Douglas Murray's body of work.

[Unknown]

His body works that we need neoconservatism. But what are you talking about?

[Jimmy Dore]

It does not mean that someone who says they are not a historian but who practices false history should be cited as a historian. This point seems to rile both Smith and Rogan. You mean that you're making shit up? Yeah.

[Unknown]

Practices false history.

[Jimmy Dore]

It. It. It appears. What does that mean again? Quit. He. All he does is make accusations about what people are doing. He never engages in the arguments. It appears to have riled their audiences even more. Yeah. Because if you look at the comment section of Joe. Joe Rogan's episode with you, every single one of them hated your guts and saw through you. Because many people seem to think that. What I mean is that they are not allowed to have an opinion. That is wrong. I think they are. No, I think that. No, you're wrong.

[Unknown]

You're just not allowed to tell anyone.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. They're not allowed to go on shows and talk about it. You can have an opinion. Just keep it to yourself. Keep it inside. Certainly don't go on a podcast and say that. And say it. Then you think it's just that. It's just. It's just that there should be a price to pay for spreading bullshit. Yeah. And you're paying that price right now. Because you're the one who spread bullshit about the Iraq war, about the Israeli Gaza conflict, about Ukraine, and about your debate on Joe Rogan's. You're the one spreading the bullshit, and you're paying a price for it right now. And of course, you do that thing, you accuse the person, your opponent of the thing you're guilty of.

[Unknown]

You know, Jimmy, I would have liked to hear his bullshit about Gaza. And they never got to.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Unknown]

Listen to this other bullshit.

[Jimmy Dore]

And part of that price that you have to pay is that you should be called out. Well, people are calling you out. That's what's happening.

[Unknown]

Oh, what a.

[Jimmy Dore]

If I had gone on Rogan's podcast and held myself out as an expert in MMA fight, this is the worst analogy ever. I suspect he would have noticed. If I had kept making mistake after mistake and shown ignorance piled upon ignorance, I think he'd say, hey, you don't seem to be very knowledgeable about this. And he'd be right. Yes. Guess what you didn't do. You didn't go on and exhibit your expertise as Joe would have in. In an argument with you about mma. Joe would have exhibited as he would. He wouldn't have to keep saying that I'm an expert and you're not. He would have just exhibited his expertise and revealed you as knowing nothing. You didn't do that to Dave Smith. You didn't, do you. You. You did. Dave Smith didn't make mistake after mistake after mistake, and you weren't, because you didn't expose him for making those mistakes. Because you're not an expert and you're an expert in being wrong about it. So why is it hard to grasp that something similar applies in other areas? Because that's all what you just said. If you have expertise, you don't go around telling people, I have expertise. You exhibit your expertise and everyone sees it. Just like Brian Regan doesn't have to tell people he's funny. He just goes up and he's funny, and everyone sees it. So in bigger rings and more important fights, having spent most of the last 18 months in Israel, Gaza, Lebanon and Ukraine, I don't think I know everything.

[Unknown]

No, I paid not to.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, because you're paid not to. And you're being dog walked around Israel and Gaza by the idf. You're given a Potemkin village view of what's actually happening there. And who are you talking to? You're talking to victims of October 7th. You're talking to the IDF soldiers. Talk to any Palestinians. Did you Talk to anybody from Hamas. But I think I know a darn sight more than someone like comic Dave Smith, who admitted he's never been to the region.

[Unknown]

Never been.

[Jimmy Dore]

Never been to the region. He spends all of his time talking about.

[Unknown]

Wait a minute. I admit I'm not. Why don't you share some of that expertise with us? That's what I was hoping for.

[Jimmy Dore]

Again, there's no expertise. He's revealing in this.

[Unknown]

I have no idea if you know more than David, because you didn't tell me any of what you know.

[Jimmy Dore]

Nothing. Oh, so you have to go to a country to comment on it, do you? Said part of the Internet. Again, the answer is obviously not. So he keeps saying two things at once. But if your job, or you're making it your job, then probably yes. So he just contradicted himself. I mean, this is. You can't make this stuff up because he doesn't have. Because he doesn't have an argument. And by the way, this isn't Dave's job. Dave's job is being a comedian and hosting a podcast. If I filed columns.

[Unknown]

Broke you down for a hobby, dude, it wasn't his job.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right. His hobby. And he was able to run right through you. If I filed columns for this paper pretending to be an expert on countries I'd never been to, I would expect my readers to complain, as they should. If I filed columns about a war zone from the safety of West Palm Beach, I think it would be fraud. Journalism has had it. Okay, no, that's not. He even said himself there are people who aren't in. In the Holocaust who have written better about the Holocaust than people who were there. I don't have to go to Vietnam to write about Vietnam. I don't have to go to Nazi Germany to write about it. I don't have to go to Gaza to write about Gaza. This is a. Another strawman.

[Unknown]

Hey, you know what? Let's give him that one. My bad. Next time we'll all go there first. Any thoughts on the actual thing, though?

[Jimmy Dore]

Any. Any thought. Any thoughts on the actual thing? Still no thoughts on the actual thing. And by the way, over 200 journalists have gone to Gaza. And guess what? The Israelis killed them.

[Unknown]

Yeah, they didn't suffer a podcast meltdown.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. They got killed by the Israelis. Over 200. Over 200 journalists.

[Unknown]

The courtesy to be killed by the Israelis.

[Jimmy Dore]

Journalism has had its own meltdown in recent years. More limited hangout. But it doesn't mean we don't have standards. You don't have standards. This article is proof there's no standards. You get everything wrong. After everything wrong. You present zero argument. You have no standards. This is all you strawman people. You get facts. Completely wrong. Ian Carroll's not a comedian, and he didn't say the things you said.

[Unknown]

He said, this boy is an influencer. That's all he is, is an influencer.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's it.

[Unknown]

Nothing else. Not an expert.

[Jimmy Dore]

And you're not an expert on anything. You have an undergraduate degree in English Lit. And as we've learned through Russiagate, as we've learned through Covid, as we've learned through the Ukraine, war journalism has zero standards. It's flat out propaganda. There's a book called Manufacturing Consent by a guy who's actually an expert, by two guys, Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky. And they. Before the consolidation of corporate media, they let people know that the media is there not to inform you, give you facts. The corporate media is there to manufacture consent from the governed for the policies of the oligarchs. That's what corporate media. That's why we have a show. That's why Joe Rogan's show is popular. That's why the Gray zone has a show. Because corporate media has no standards, and they're there to manufacture consent. What the stat much though that might amaze some people. I am amazed that you pretend that corporate media has standards. And if they do have standards, what are those standards? He doesn't tell you, just like he doesn't argue anything or tell you what Dave Smith got wrong.

[Unknown]

Oh, now you're a standards expert.

[Jimmy Dore]

What the standards are in the new media, especially on podcasts, is being worked out. There are no standards. People get to say what they want. You know what the. You know what the. The antidote to bad speech is? More speech. But there must be some. There must be some standards. And podcasts. What he's. What he's implying. There is. There must be some censorship. That's how I read that. You might read it differently, but that's what that is. But there must be some kind of censorship on guys like Joe Rogan and guys like Dave Smith and guys like Jimmy Dore. You mean the guys who got everything right during COVID and Russiagate? Yeah. Otherwise the new media will lead people into errors and evils far greater than the old media could ever dream of. I don't think there's a bigger. There's never. There's no bigger evil than the Iraq war. There's no bigger evil than the Syrian war. There's no bigger evil than the Ukraine war. And currently there's no bigger evil than the mass slaughter of children in Gaza. No podcaster ever led to a war that slaughtered a billion people. What's that?

[Unknown]

Evil's like evils like not bombing Iran on behalf of Israel.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that Strike three for Douglas Murray. And I just couldn't let this article go without debunking it. You have no standards, Douglas Murray. That's why you're allowed to print bullshit articles in the New York Post, because they have no standards. You have no standards. The corporate media has zero standards, which is why shows like this exist.

[Unknown]

There was nothing to debunk. He didn't even offer any bunk.

[Jimmy Dore]

He offered no bunking. There's no argument. He didn't argue an argument.

[Unknown]

What are you supposed to debunk?

[Jimmy Dore]

He's just, he's, he's just have to.

[Unknown]

Be on with him. Dave Smith.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's just upset. He's upset that other people get to have opinions on podcasts. That's all he's upset about. And he thinks they shouldn't. But then he says, but that's not what I'm saying. I think they should, but then they should get called out for their bullshit. We'll call them out for their bullshit. What did they get wrong?

[Unknown]

Boy, you're really blaspheming. It's very Islamic of him. You know, he. He goes, I don't need to revisit an argument that's already been settled by experts. That's an Islamic saying. Only a fool goes looking for more knowledge when he already has all the knowledge. That's Douglas Murray being Islamist. In fact, this new Ayatollah of Speech ID he's got is also very Islamist.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a Premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy door comedy.com Clicking on join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. Come see us on tour. We're going to be in Bakersfield, San Jose, California, Buffalo, New York, Toledo, Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, Glasgow, Manchester, Belfast, Dublin, Liverpool, Birmingham and London. Go to jimmy dore.com for a link for Tickets. Guess what they're doing in the uk? They're admitting finally, under the guise of we're doing research. They're going to have experiments to dim the sun given green light by the UK government. Because what could go wrong gets great news for the UK because you know how they're always getting too much sun.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

In the uk yeah. It's sunny old England, as they say.

[Unknown]

We need to bog up the complexion.

[Jimmy Dore]

How are you going to know the experiments working? I mean, if there was one major complaint about the United Kingdom, it's that they get way too much sunshine.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

I mean, how was Jack the Ripper supposed to sneak around and kill anybody on a bright sunny day? Am I right?

[Unknown]

That's true. Going for day killing.

[Jimmy Dore]

What is the raincoat company supposed to do now? Switch to London spf? Is that what they're going to do? What's. Come on. So you know, this is gonna. They're. They're doing this with aluminum. You know, they're spraying aluminum. We already. So there's that. That's how they do this.

[Unknown]

But I mean, why are they. Here's my question.

[Jimmy Dore]

So they concur. They control the. By the way they. This weather control thing is not again, it's one of those things like you're saying, oh, Jimmy, come on. The vaccine safe and effective. The weather control thing is real. Do you know that the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad went on the floor of the UN and said that they were creating famine in his country, they were controlling the weather. But it never got. That never got reported in the United States, did it?

[Unknown]

I did hear it and I was like, oh, that's something stupid. But at the time, I was unaware that we have a treaty signed in the 70s to not use weather weapons. So if we didn't have that, we wouldn't have a treaty about it. There was no nuclear treaty before nukes.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right. Scientists are planning on dimming the sun in a bid to curb global warming. Again with this global warming, it all start. When did you. When do you start measuring global warming? They like to start in the late 1800s. We're actually in a cooling period right now. If you look the. You just depends on where you start counting from. There used to be ice all the way covering all of North America. Used to be ice everywhere. How about before you do this? And that all went away before we started burning oil. That all went away before we started burning oil until we got the Great Lakes. So it, this, this, this, this feels very much like a scam. Go ahead. I'm Just gonna say, how about before we start dimming the sun, why don't we just cure worldwide hunger? Yeah. How about that, I think would have.

[Unknown]

Caused more of it. Also, all the people that can't believe something could have happened with that Malaysian plane. They're planning on dimming the sun.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Unknown]

What are you talking about? Look at the things you're looking at.

[Jimmy Dore]

The UK government is set to announce funding of up to 50 million. 50 million pounds of funding for sun dimming experiments in the coming weeks. Let me tell you something, they're already. I, I'm going to cover this more on Friday. The controversial technology aims to reflect sunshine back into the atmosphere, which could help to temporarily limit rising temperatures. And it's going to screw up natural cloud formation, it's going to screw up the weather. It's. It's screwing. But they're already doing that. How's it going to affect plant life? Yes. You know plants like being sprayed with aluminum and salt, they say they're just doing with salt, believe me, they're spraying aluminum.

[Unknown]

Well, I know the aluminum part of that and they've been doing it for quite some time, by the way. Yes, they can do that. Global 3D mapping, that's what that layer of aluminum allows them to do, is map the entire area when they do it. And that's from a long time ago. I don't know now what they're doing. I know Dubai had those floods because they were doing this.

[Jimmy Dore]

Your brain would have to be an innie for you to think this is a good idea.

[Unknown]

Well, I don't think it's for the reason they're saying. Just because I don't feel like that's. Oh, the UK has been really heating up. I don't think it really has. And it's always cloudy. So why on earth would you be doing that there? Why would you. It doesn't make sense.

[Jimmy Dore]

It comes as the National Environment Research Council, NERC, which is one letter away from NERD, announced on April 3 that it will invest 10 million pounds of new funding to study these solar radiation management schemes. Wow. According to Professor Mark Symes, the program director for the government's Advanced Research and Invention Funding Agency, known as aria, there would be a small controlled outdoor experiments on particular. They're already doing this. Yeah, they're already doing this. These experiments could include injecting aerosols into the atmosphere or brightening clouds to reflect the sunlight. What could go wrong? What could go wrong? And of course, this small experiment is just going to involve the entire population. Yeah, you Know, these are, these are the science people. These are the kind of science guys that sank Atlantis. Those kind of guys.

[Unknown]

Remember they were at. Wait, Jimmy. They were advertising. There was some startup that was advertising doing something with mirrors just like that in space where you could order sunlight to the area you wanted. You know, like it's late at night. It was like an app they were promising with this satellite. So right away. And that was a while ago. No, I don't think they really had the tech to do that. I think that was a thing that. But this from a year or two ago. So I doubt it's anything to do with climate change. But how much you want to bet you're going to be able to buy sunlight or they're going to giveth and taketh away the light when you need to grow crops if you're not doing what they want. Whatever. Remember nitrogen? They had to get the nitrogen away. It was just to take over.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. So they could take over the Dutch farms. Too much nitrogen.

[Unknown]

How about I turn the sun off for your stupid farm and then you sell it to me. How about that then?

[Jimmy Dore]

And then one day they can charge us for sunlight. Imagine I imagine if you. I saw them bring this up on redacted. Imagine if they. You just listen to the government and you were a good little boy and you covered your property with solar panels and now they're going to dim the sun. The sun. Because you. It needs direct sunlight. It's not just any sunlight. Your solar panel needs direct sunlight. It's cloudy. You're effed. The professor says we will be announcing who we have given funding to in a few weeks. And when we do so we will be making clear when on any outdoor experiments might be taking place. It's already taking place.

[Unknown]

I think they did in California last year.

[Jimmy Dore]

One of the missing pieces in this debate was physical data from the real world. Models can only tell us so much. I mean the. The models about climate change that have proven to be wrong consistently. You mean those models?

[Unknown]

Yeah, which I don't know how they think they can model that.

[Jimmy Dore]

We have strong requirements around the length of time experiments can run for and their reversibility. And we won't be funding the release of any toxic substances to the environment. Last year was the hottest year on record since when becoming the first year for the average temperatures to exceed the threshold of 1.5 Celsius above pre industrial temperatures again. January 2025 was also the warmest on record with an average Global temperature hitting 13.23 Celsius. 1.75 Celsius above pre industrial levels. Okay, how did they melt all that ice during the Ice Age? How hot was it for it to. How did that happen?

[Unknown]

No, I don't have a model. I need a computer model.

[Jimmy Dore]

The 1.5 Celsius threshold is a target established in the Paris Agreement in 2015, where a bunch of people flew private jets to the Paris so they could figure out how to fix climate change. Believe me, they're not going to outlaw private jets. You know who else is cheering this on? You know who's cheering this on? Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff bezos from their 450 foot yachts with six diesel engines in them. They're not. They're. They're also cheering the sun. Yes. Dim the sun.

[Unknown]

So I. Yeah. The owner of a bridal party, space cock, is telling you, yes, you should get less.

[Jimmy Dore]

Barack Obama goes to Africa, tells people in Africa you can't have air conditioning in cars because the planet will overheat, and then he gets on a private plane, flies back to his beachfront property, and then he flies to his other beachfront property in Hawaii, where he's building an illegal seawall, which he got a. They got a cutout for, because seawalls erode the beach down the road, but they got it, so he's buying. Isn't it funny to people who believe in oceans rising and climate change keep flying around the world in private jets buying beachfront property? Like John Kerry, Like Barack Obama.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Like Bill Gates, like Jeff Bezos, like Mark Zuckerberg. Isn't that interesting?

[Unknown]

Reptile people.

[Jimmy Dore]

Reptile people.

[Unknown]

I mean, I would kind of just.

[Jimmy Dore]

Proved it if in a world within the 1.5 Celsius threshold, believe me, they're never going to stop. They're never going to say, hey, maybe we should close. The 900 military, the number one emitter of carbon as an organization in the world, guess what it is. It's the US Military. No one ever, ever says, hey, maybe we should close those 900 military bases. Maybe we shouldn't blow up the Nord Stream pipeline. So the same people telling me about climate change being real are the same people urging more war, more military bases, more private jet travel, more private yacht travel, more beachfront properties, and more blowing up of the Nord Stream pipeline. Pipelines. I don't. I don't see a disconnect. Do you see a disconnect there at all? I see one.

[Unknown]

I mean, not if you're run by, like, a secret ancient order of vampires that want to rule the night by day. What is the motive here?

[Jimmy Dore]

They're going to tackle climate change. Are you going to tackle it by closing 900 military bases and stop blowing up Nord Stream pipeline? No. Are you going to tackle it by one private jet? Flight emits more carbon than my car does in my lifetime. You're going to get rid of the 450 foot yachts which is 150 foot bigger than a football field, that use four giant diesel engines. You're going to need to get rid of that. No, but I got to have an electric stove and drive a scooter and eat bugs and live in a 15 minute city.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Wait, are they clearing out the rainforest to make a highway?

[Jimmy Dore]

They literally, they literally just cut down a big swath of the Amazon rainforest so they could put in a road so they could have a conference about fighting climate change.

[Unknown]

It's private too. No one can use it. Who lives there.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yep. You don't feel like a sucker. You don't feel like a sucker that they're literally clearing the Amazon rainforest so they can put in a road so they can have a. A conference. They can't have a conference in a city that already exists. Greenhouse. So in a world within the 1.5 Celsius threshold. Experts say that many of the deadliest effects of climate change, extreme heat, food scarcity and insect borne diseases are reduced. Greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide are thrown into the atmosphere by human activities and are key drivers of climate change. It also greens the planet. They don't tell you that. It also greens the planet. The planet is way greener than it was 10 years ago.

[Unknown]

You said it's going to be a desert. Not way greener than when I was a kid. The forest was almost all gone.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Unknown]

That's what I was told.

[Jimmy Dore]

And. And now the world, the entire world is way greener. Scientists are increasingly worried that carbon dioxide levels aren't falling fast enough to prevent catastrophic global warming. They said after they get out of their private jet, after they cleared more Amazon rainforest so they could have their climate change meeting. With the collapse of ocean currents and giant ice sheets becoming a looming threat, the uncomfortable truth is that you know that most of the Earth's lifetime there weren't. There weren't polar. The uncomfortable truth is that our current warming trajectory makes a number of such tipping points distinctively possible. Over the next century, this has driven increased interest in approaches that might actively cool the world in a short time frame. In order to avoid these tipping points.

[Unknown]

The tipping points, none of them happen. Look, I really don't need to be told any more about the history of jack shit because I've been alive long enough to watch them prophesy the end of the world. That didn't come more times than crazy religious people ever have. They predicted the end more than bible beating kooks. So shut up. I don't believe you.

[Jimmy Dore]

John Kerry was saying there's going to have ice free summers in the Arctic. Didn't happen. He said that like 20 years ago.

[Unknown]

Oh yeah, when he supposedly went to Antarctica to check the damage. He just didn't go to the climate thing instead of going to Antarctica to check the measurement of how damaging it is.

[Jimmy Dore]

The experiments therefore aim to provide critical data needed to properly assess the potential of the sun dimming technology. One major area of research which includes stratospheric aerosol injection where tiny particles are released into the stratosphere from airplanes and reflect light back into space. They've been doing this forever. Everybody who mocked someone about chemtrails should apologize. Another potential solution is marine cloud brightening, in which boats would release sea salt particles into the sky to increase cloud's ability to reflect sunlight. You know how plants love be covered in salt? That's good for plants.

[Unknown]

A third salting the earth. But have you ever salted the sky?

[Jimmy Dore]

Isn't it amazing? None of these ideas are we ban private jet travel, end war, stop blowing up Nord stream pipelines, close down the 900 military bases. The number one emitter of carbon in the US military. Not what. Nobody ever mentions doing that. Not emergency.

[Unknown]

Does it?

[Jimmy Dore]

What's that?

[Unknown]

Doesn't seem like an emergency, does it?

[Jimmy Dore]

Does it?

[Unknown]

They're not talking about that.

[Jimmy Dore]

No. In fact they're all talking about even more oil. A third idea. Barack Obama bragged that they extracted more oil out of the United States when he was president than all the ever before. The number one oil extraction president was President Obama. He bragged about it. A third idea is seeding Serious Joe Biden opened up the Arctic to drilling. A third idea is seeding cirrus clouds in the upper atmosphere to allow more heat to escape into space. However, the topic of geoengineering, the deliberate large scale manipulation of the Earth's climate system, remains controversial. You think as some some scientists argue that these techniques could have serious unintended consequences on things like food production. You think?

[Unknown]

No. Is it ok? Could it be any worse than artificially cocking up viruses?

[Jimmy Dore]

According to Professor Symes, no. No toxic substances would be released into the environment. Oh really? They also told me that the vaccine was safe and effective.

[Unknown]

They released that into you and they.

[Jimmy Dore]

Put that into you, the environment, two weeks to flatten the curve that masks work. They also told me that lockdowns were great, that there was science behind social distancing. They told me all those things. You know, the good news is that according to the latest Pew poll, the majority of Americans are now holding unfavorable views of Israel as opposed to just a few years ago it was 70% was favorable and now it's majority unfavorable.

[Unknown]

More than 53% now I read.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, according to the Pew poll, 53% of Americans now express an unfavorable opinion of Israel, up from 42% in March of 2022. That was before the October 7 Hamas attack. Young Republicans, those under the age of 50 especially, are now more likely to have an unfavorable view of Israel. With 50% polling in that direction, the gap underscores the rise of popular alternative conservative media voices like Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, who have been more open to challenging Israel. Jewish Americans have been moving away from Israel in recent years. This trend picked up over domestic differences within Israel over the country's Supreme Court, but has been turbocharged since the war in Gaza erupted. However, at least 73% of Jewish Americans still hold a favorable view of Israel and after them, White evangelicals hold the highest favorable view of Israel at 72%. Notably, more white Protestants and Catholics now hold unfavorable views of Israel at 50% and 53% respectively. Muslim Americans hold the strongest unfavorable views, with 81% against and just 19% viewing Israel favorably. Just 3% said he was favoring Palestinians too much, meaning Benjamin Netanyahu, with the highest chunk of respondents, 37% saying they were unsure. More than half of Americans think that a two state solution cannot be found for Israel and an independent Palestinian state to coexist peacefully, while 46% still think it can be done now. Do you think I've heard someone say so? So it's been a big shift over the last 10 years now to where the majority of even the GOP under 50 years old are negative on Israel and the majority of Americans are now negative on Israel. Where do you see this going in in 10 years? Is the, is the support for Israel going to collapse?

[Unknown]

I think that Israel has normalized itself. You see, Israel had benefited because of historical facts like the Nazi Holocaust, but also the exploitation of those facts by the Israel lobby, including Annex, especially its domestic constituent, the American Jews. It had covered Israel or covered Israel with an aura of being somehow different, that you couldn't hold Israel to the same standards as any other country because of the history and because of the exploitation of that history. I think in the last 10 or 15 years, and especially since October 7, Israel has normalized itself. That is to say, people are no longer willing, despite the historical fact and despite the exploitation of the Nazi Holocaust, because of the horror that has unfolded, people are no longer willing to hold Israel to a separate standard. It's now they're Israelis. It's not the Holocaust, it's not the aura. It's just they're Israelis like any other state. There's Israel, there's a Germany, there's a France, there's a Somalia there. It's just like any other state. That state happens to be committing genocide, and we're not going to support it. So it's become a normal state. And a normal state that commits genocide. You don't support it. You don't support a normal state that commits genocide. And now that Israel has been normalized, people are reacting on what they see. And what they see is unbearable. It was interesting for me the other day, I was on the Katie Halper show, and she brought up on the screen, it was Chuck Schumer speaking on the View, okay. And he's promoting his new book, Anti Semitism in America. And then he says a lot of people don't take the tax on Jews seriously. You know, the claim that there's a new anti Semitism in the US he says, but you don't understand. Every Jew carries on his back 5,000 years of Jewish suffering. And you could just see the women on the panel, if I can use the expression rolling their eyes inside, they're not going to do it with their heads erect. But, oh, he's starting with that again. It was striking to me how tone deaf he was. He doesn't understand that that just doesn't play anymore. That that just doesn't work its magic like it used to. He doesn't understand. And the face of what's happening now in Gaza, maybe that's not the right tune to be playing. And the other thing that struck me was, you know, the difference in age between me and Chuck schumer is only four years, but it was as if he were 90 years old. He's playing. He's reading from a playbook that is old. It doesn't work anymore. And that's what I think the polls show. Israel has normalized itself as a state. And this normal state happens to be committing genocide. And just like we don't like other states that commit genocide. We don't like this state.

[Jimmy Dore]

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[Unknown]

I'm not kidding.

[Jimmy Dore]

Do not do that. Do not freak out. Freak out. Freak out. Freak out. Freak out.