Israel & AIPAC Get DESTROYED In Michigan Primary!

Summary

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Episode Title: Israel & AIPAC Get DESTROYED In Michigan Primary!
Date: August 7, 2026
Host: Jimmy Dore
Guests/Panel: Mike McRae, Nick Cruz, Kit Gabella, Sam Tripoli, Aaron Rodgers (audio clips)

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Overview

This episode centers on the shocking defeat of AIPAC-backed candidate Haley Stevens by progressive challenger Abdul El Sayed in the Michigan Democratic Senate primary. The panel dissects what this means for the power of the Israel lobby, Democratic Party dynamics, and the broader anti-establishment mood among American voters. The conversation weaves through political critique, sharp satire, and skepticism about the prospects for real change—especially in a political system that, according to Dore and his co-panelists, remains captured by establishment interests and war profiteers. The second half of the show veers into broader critiques of COVID-19 policy and government overreach, before returning to recent developments in Middle East geopolitics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Michigan Primary: AIPAC Loses Big

• Abdul El Sayed defeats Haley Stevens for the Democratic Senate nomination, despite being outspent massively by AIPAC and pro-Israel interests (up to $80 million in total spending).
• Haley Stevens’s Campaign: Heavily focused on unwavering support for Israel, often using rhetoric Dore and the panel ridiculed as out-of-touch and robotic.
  • Quote (Haley Stevens): “Israel comes to me in my dreams. I see Israel’s future and I know that Israel will continue to exist for the Jewish people.” (03:01)
  • Panel mocks her devotion to Israel at the expense of domestic policy concerns.
• Abdul El Sayed’s Campaign: Focused on redirecting US resources toward domestic needs.
  • Quote (El Sayed): “We’re paying for [the war] to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars... Imagine what would happen if instead of dropping a missile on a school over there, we were dropping that same money into schools over here...” (04:45)
  • Panel notes that this message, once considered fringe, is now mainstream among many voters.

Timestamps

• [01:33] Announcement of El Sayed’s victory
• [03:54] Discussion on the meaning of El Sayed’s win

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2. AIPAC, Democratic Establishment, and the “Zionist Lobby”

• Dore: Celebrates the rare defeat of the “billionaire, Jewish donor, AIPAC, Zionist money, and the Democratic Party establishment” in this race, but cautions against over-celebration.
• Glenn Greenwald’s analysis: Hailed as correct for arguing that even a narrow win against such a well-funded establishment is historically significant.
  • Quote (Glenn Greenwald via Dore): “Beating a candidate supported by the entire DC Dem leadership and funded with $60 million from AIPAC and GOP Zionist billionaires... is one of the worst blows... to the supremacy of super PAC money... in decades.” (09:00)

Timestamps

• [08:30] Dore reads Greenwald’s assessment

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3. Skepticism Over Real Change

• Chuck Schumer and the Party Machine: Dore contends Senate leaders like Schumer will co-opt progressives and preserve the status quo. Even victorious left-wing candidates, he argues, quickly become constrained once inside the party apparatus.
  • Quote (Dore, on Schumer): “He’s a Zionist. He’s going to work with Donald Trump to keep that money going to Ukraine, to keep that money going to Israel... He knows that he’s the power.” (12:51)
• Pattern of Disappointment: Dore references past “left” Democratic Senators like Joe Manchin and Joe Lieberman, concluding “it doesn’t really matter” who wins so long as establishment leadership maintains control.

Timestamps

• [12:49] Schumer’s reaction and Dore’s frustrations with party dynamics

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4. Abdul El Sayed’s Track Record & Panel’s Concerns

• **Dore makes clear his reservations about El Sayed’s past stances on COVID-19 policies, accusing him of being a “fat Nazi” on masks and mandates.
• Raises concerns about El Sayed deleting previous social media posts, calling it “scrubbing his record.” (14:19)
• Panelist Nick Cruz criticizes El Sayed’s positions on Ukraine and foreign policy, accusing him and the “NATO left” of intellectual inconsistency and enabling US imperialism.
  • Quote (Nick Cruz): “Congratulations, you guys. Nominated another guy to the Senate who vows to continue to send weapons to Nazis in Ukraine and promote forever war against Russia...” (15:58)

Timestamps

• [14:19] Dore on El Sayed’s deleted COVID posts
• [15:58] Nick Cruz on El Sayed’s foreign policy

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5. Mainstream Media and the “Extreme” Label

• The panel skewers establishment talking points that brand anti-war or anti-genocide positions as “extreme,” while portraying centrism—even about war crimes—as virtuous.
  • Quote (Dore): “Whatever the corporation doesn't like is an extreme... If I don’t want to fund any war, that’s called extreme.” (10:06)

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6. Broader Critique of the US Political Economy

• Dore warns that superficial electoral victories won’t change the underlying corruption or avert America’s decline.
  • Quote: “Our country’s on its last legs. People don’t realize this. As soon as the dollar is no longer the reserve currency of the world, it’s over for the United States.” (21:30)
• Recounts the outsourcing of manufacturing and links it to challenges facing the US globally, especially with China and Iran.

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7. COVID-19, Bodily Autonomy, and Public Debate

• Dore, McRae, and (via audio) Aaron Rodgers rail against pandemic mandates, vaccine policy, and censorship of dissent.
  • Quote (Aaron Rodgers): “Science that can’t be questioned is propaganda.” (28:56)
  • Dore calls out celebrities like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Terry Bradshaw for shaming vaccine skeptics and parroting state/corporate messaging.
  • Strong criticism of Fauci and arguments that COVID policies were driven by Big Pharma and the military-industrial complex.
  • Quote (Dore): “That was fascism, remember, is the joining of corporations and the state. And that’s exactly what Covid was.” (19:14)

Timestamps

• [24:51] Rodgers recounts challenges as a vaccine skeptic
• [29:00] Discussion on propaganda and science
• [30:59] Dore calls out establishment vaccine narratives

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8. Digital Privacy and Government Overreach

• Segment on the case of Samuel Tunick, a US citizen charged for wiping his phone at the border using GrapheneOS’s “duress” passcode.
  • Discussion highlights the expansive government surveillance state, the lack of probable cause required for digital searches at borders, and the chilling effect on privacy and political activism.
• Kit Gabella and a legal expert debate the unconstitutional use of border search authority for digital devices.
  • Quote (Legal Expert): “What data you’re trying to collect...you got to have the proof.” (50:26)

Timestamps

• [45:12-53:34] Discussion on Tunick’s case and the border surveillance state

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9. Middle East Geopolitics: Israel, Iran, and the Strait of Hormuz

• Dore covers the negotiations between Iran and Oman to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, and Israel’s role in sabotaging prospective peace.
  • Quote (Dore): “So Iran is going to control the Strait...the deal appears to be a stepping stone toward a broader ceasefire...but Israel immediately sabotaged it.” (53:53)
• Discussion of Israel’s strikes on Lebanon and pattern of breaking ceasefires, described as deliberate efforts to prevent peace agreements that would lessen Israel’s leverage.

Timestamps

• [53:34] Summary of Hormuz negotiations
• [56:01] News of Israeli airstrikes in Lebanon

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10. Final Thoughts: Zionism vs. Judaism

• Dore and McRae stress the importance of distinguishing between anti-Zionist positions and anti-Semitism. They argue that the “Greater Israel Project” is a long-running, elite-driven colonial plan, not representative of most Jews.
  • Quote (Dore): “Zionists like to conflate Jews and Israel, and they’re not the same thing.” (59:19)

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Notable Quotes

• Jimmy Dore (on AIPAC defeat): “Any win against a candidate backed by those money centers is remarkable, even if the margin underperformed the last set of polling data.” (09:00)
• Mike McRae: “You’re supposed to be centrist about genocide. Yes, I’m an extremist about—I’m against it.” (09:58)
• Nick Cruz (on voter sentiment): “I would vote for a communist first.” (07:07)
• Aaron Rodgers: “Science that can’t be questioned is propaganda. That’s exactly right.” (28:56)
• Jimmy Dore: “Zionism and Jews, also not the same thing. Judaism and Zionism, not the same thing.” (59:19)

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Memorable Moments

• Mockery of rolled-up sleeves in political reporting (00:36, 01:13)
• Satirical riffs on pro-Israel loyalty pledges and one-note campaign messaging (03:38)
• Strong, almost cathartic venting about the futility of believing establishment politics can achieve progressive change (18:34, 21:30)
• Comic moments lambasting celebrities reading pro-vaccine scripts (30:26-33:46)
• Debate over whether refusing war funding is “extreme,” and American complicity in permanent war (10:05, 18:00)
• Lively skewering of border search overreach and digital privacy erosion (45:12-53:34)
• Biting conclusion on Israel’s sabotage of peace deals and the destructive influence of the US and Israeli elites (57:40, 59:19)

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Flow, Language, and Tone

• The tone is irreverent, angry, and frequently profane, with quick-witted banter and satirical jabs at establishment politicians, media, and public figures.
• The episode combines sharp political analysis, grassroots skepticism, and comic relief, often blurring lines between punchline and polemic. Language is unapologetically direct and conversational.

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode provides a deep dive into the enduring influence of AIPAC and pro-Israel money in U.S. politics, the unlikely victory of an anti-establishment underdog in Michigan, and the limits of hope within the Democratic Party. Listeners are treated to a relentless critique of bipartisan consensus on war, the misleading nature of “centrism,” and the complicity of American media and political elites. Expect no punches pulled as the show pivots between current events, historic power dynamics, and a comedic dissection of pandemic-era orthodoxy and digital privacy battles—anchored by Dore’s signature blend of outrage and satire.

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For anyone seeking an unfiltered, frequently hilarious, and deeply skeptical take on US politics and media, this episode is a fast-moving, thought-provoking listen.

Transcript

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, come see me on tour. We'll be in Burbank, California, August 30th with the live celebrity panel show. And then September 18th through the 20th in Chicago, Illinois and Rosemont, Illinois. Go to Jimmy Doe.com for a link for tickets.

[Nick Cruz]

Establishment media sucks. August light and so good luck bullshit we can't afford while he's fomenting this watch and see as his jack golf the medium speeds and jumps the medium

[Kit Gabella]

and hits some head.

[Jimmy Dore]

Because AIPAC took it on the chin. This Abdul El Sayed, he's the big winner. Let's listen to Steve Carnacki. I like that he's look, he's so casual. He's got his, he's got his shirt sleeves rolled up. That's how you know they're working. He's got the shirt sleeve. We're going to roll up our, you know who used to do that? Rick Perry.

[Mike McRae]

He would.

[Jimmy Dore]

Rick, the governor of Texas roll up our sleeves.

[Mike McRae]

That's because he was given hand jobs.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. And, and George Bush would do that. But put roll up our sleeves.

[Mike McRae]

Remember Will Ferrell would do him and he would just bang the side of a fence with a saw like he's working on the ranch.

[Jimmy Dore]

So anyway, but so look at him. He's got his, he's got his casual shoes on and he's got his shirt sleeves rolled up. So you know, he's working at percentages

[Mike McRae]

on the big board. Rough day.

[Jimmy Dore]

Here we go. This is an NBC News Special Report. I'm Steve Kornacki. American voters in five states hit the polls on Tuesday and I've got some major results to share with you.

[Interviewer]

Starting.

[Jimmy Dore]

And he's got a rolled up piece of paper in his hand. So he's got everything you need to signal that he's working hard. He's got his shirt sleeves rolled up. He's got the casual. He's got his sport coat off, his suit coat is off. And he's got a rolled up piece of paper in his hand. Like I need this. Here we go. In the state of Michigan where Abdul El Sayed has won the Democratic primary for the United States Senate, he defeats Congresswoman Haley Stevens. This was a very close. So that's a big, so the reason why that's a big deal is because Haley Stevens was they spent like $70 million APEC and the Jewish lobby, good

[Mike McRae]

value for their money.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so they spent, I like some people said 13 times more, some people said nine times more. It was a lot more than Abdul El Sayed. Now, Abdul said his big thing Was that he said, well, I'll show you in a second. Here's by the way, it is shocking. Abdul said:1 I wish it would have been Al Qaeda instead, since at least they support Israel. Am I right?

[Mike McRae]

They're good friends.

[Jimmy Dore]

They're very good friends. Okay, so here she. This is who he was running against. Look at, listen to how bad she is.

[Haley Stevens]

And in the United States Congress,

[Nick Cruz]

I

[Haley Stevens]

will continue to fight for the people of Israel. I will continue to fight for Israel's existence. Israel comes to me in my dreams. I see Israel's future and I know that Israel will continue to exist for the Jewish people.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wait, if Israel comes to her in her dreams, if she talks in her sleep with that voice, nobody else is sleeping or dreaming for three miles in a row.

[Mike McRae]

Israel comes to me in my dreams. I'm going to say it was on the side of 70 million and how much money they spent.

[Jimmy Dore]

Her voice is like a combination of squeaking disc brakes and a cat fighting a dog.

[Mike McRae]

Popcorn got upset while she was talking

[Jimmy Dore]

just from the same voice. So that's who, so that's who he had to beat. So you would think it would be easy, right? But again, his name is, you know, El Sayed Abdul. So that he's got that going against him. And then he.

[Mike McRae]

Does he try to run and say he would do something for, you know, the place he would be representing and not.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's what he did. So he decided to go, you know what I'm going to actually say I'm going to help the people who I want to vote for me instead of a foreign country. It's a weirdest thing.

[Mike McRae]

And it maybe if we spend more money saying the opposite of that, that argument will be more appealing to people because we spent 70 million on it.

[Jimmy Dore]

You know, so let's listen to what he, this is what he was saying instead. So she was saying, she was saying this.

[Haley Stevens]

And in the United States Congress, I have continue to fight for the people of Israel.

[Jimmy Dore]

It makes no sense whatsoever. No sense whatsoever.

[Mike McRae]

I never wanted to hear the voice of Miam Bialik more than hearing her talk.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here's what he was saying, as you have been.

[Abdul El Sayed]

This is an illegal, unjustified war, but somebody's got to pay for it. And that someone is us. We're paying for it to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars and counting money that should be spent to provide for our own children here at home. You mentioned the destruction of a girls school by an American missile. We paid for that missile that got dropped on those kids and dropped on their school. Now imagine what would happen if instead of dropping a missile on a school over there, we were dropping that same money into schools over here, or investing in our infrastructure or addressing the fact that people can't afford their health care. There is an opportunity cost to war. Donald Trump has never had to actually pay for it. He's never put anything of himself on the line. So for him, this is just another day doing what Donald Trump does, which is enriching himself and his family at the cost of the American public. I just filled up.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow. It sounds like terrorism.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah, get him the hell out. Is he or immigrant? I want him out.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, full blown terrorism. So that's what. So by the way, you know what that sounds like to me? That sounds like to me Donald Trump and RFK Jr campaigning together in Arizona right before the election. That sounds like what they were saying. We're going to end those foreign wars. We're going to. The people back here need money, we need health care, we need schools, we need infrastructure. That's what so it would have never

[Mike McRae]

happened if I was in office.

[Jimmy Dore]

So it's a. It's the right, it's the right message. Right. So he knows the message. And so here people are so sick and tired of Israel that even our friend Nick Cruz says moderate suburban wine moms in Michigan told MSNBC that they'd rather vote for a communist than someone who supports sending taxpayer money to Israel. Want to hear it? Here it goes.

[Haley Stevens]

I just wouldn't want a single of our family's tax paying dollars to go towards something like that. It's like giving money to violence.

[Nick Cruz]

So would you support a Senate candidate, in this case Haley Stevens, who's more of a.

[Kit Gabella]

But more of a moderate like you tend to like.

[Nick Cruz]

But would that be enough?

[Haley Stevens]

Definitely. That would definitely turn me off as a hundred percent. I, I couldn't, I couldn't. I would vote for a communist first.

[Jimmy Dore]

Whoa.

[Haley Stevens]

I just wouldn't want.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, I know she's from America, but I want her deported.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah, I was about to say the same thing.

[Aaron Rodgers]

Whoa.

[Mike McRae]

This looks like trouble.

[Jimmy Dore]

So nice. I just say nice going, Haley Stevens. You lost a wine mom who sounds almost virtually like you, but with a few more years of wine consumption.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah, that's right.

[Jimmy Dore]

She. You must stand for something really, really bad. And you do, and you do. The problem is, you know, Haley, this woman just can't think outside the box. But that's just the shape of her head, so she stuck with it. But anyway, so this is what all the Money they. So Abdul Al Sayed was outspent nearly 9 to 1. AIPAC, the pro Israel lobby alone spent more than $30 million. So they were trying to do a Thomas Massie on Abdu, but it didn't work. The Israel lobby and big money lost. So look at all that money. $80.9 million. So they lost. So that's good. So that's. So that's good. So again, I'm. I'm gonna. I'm gonna rain on your parade in a second. But it's good. I know. Hold on. It is good. All right, so here's what Glenn Greenwald's. Because. So now people are saying, well, he only won by two points because the polling had him up way more. And people are like, well, he only beat her by two points. So first of all, it's just so such a stupid thing to say. And Glenn calls out. He goes. He goes. I find it bizarre in the extreme that Al Said's likely victory is being depicted as some sort of disappointment for those opposed to the Democratic establishment. Beating a candidate supported by the entire DC Dem leadership and funded with 60 million from APEC and GOP Zionist billionaires like Paul Singer is one of the worst blows, if not the single worst blow, to the power of those factions and to the supremacy of super PAC money in key races and that we've seen in decades. Any win against a candidate backed by those money centers is remarkable, even if the margin underperformed the last set of polling data. This is just a massive cope from the apac, DNC and billionaire class that went all in on HALEY Steven. He's 100% correct, as Glenn usually is. That's very true. And so there's reason to be happy that someone beat that. Beat back the billionaire, the Jewish donor, aipac, Zionist money, and the Democratic Party establishment, by the way, because the Democratic Party establishment was against El Sayed. They were for that crazy lady.

[Mike McRae]

They like Al Qaeda better.

[Jimmy Dore]

They do like Al Qaeda better.

[Mike McRae]

So you hear the reporter going, but it's centrist. So they're trying to do is call centrist. Centrism is a good.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, that's supposed to be good. Yeah, right.

[Mike McRae]

And then they're not only that you're supposed to be centrist about genocide. Yes, I'm an extremist about. I'm against it.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's what.

[Mike McRae]

Like an extremist.

[Jimmy Dore]

So whatever. So whatever the corporation doesn't like is an extreme. That's all. That's just it. So if I want. Have health care that everyone can doesn't go bankrupt. That's called extreme.

[Mike McRae]

What do you want to not traffic any kid you want to not have any kids traffic?

[Jimmy Dore]

If I don't want to fund any war, that's called extreme.

[Mike McRae]

I don't blow up any school kids

[Jimmy Dore]

if I don't want to blow up school kids. And you are an extreme. So just keep so you. I think people are hip to that by I think enough people enough people are hip to that that they voted for this guy Abdul El Sayed, even though he has the terrorist name and the bad facial hair. But now here's. So now this shoe bomber hair, frankly. So now this guy here, this guy name is David Schwartz. He's. He's not, he's not important. Only, he's only important to the fact that he's a Democratic Party rah rah enthusiast, right? Okay, so he's from Brooklyn and he had. He's a Democratic Party operative, right? So he's all for the establishment and he's all for Chuck Schumer. And here's what he says. Senator Schumer was asked twice about tonight's Michigan primary and reminded everyone why he's in command. No defensiveness, no unnecessary drama. Just focused on the prize winning the Senate majority. So let's watch what he let's. So let's watch this. How do you feel about the way

[Interviewer]

your candidates are running this primary season?

[Jimmy Dore]

What do you see in critics that say that some of these folks are getting nominated are too far to the left? Look, so he was asked, how do you feel about the way these Democrats who are winning are running? Some say they're running too far to the left. And this is. But they're winning. And so this is what he says

[Mike McRae]

in Michigan, we are going to beat the Republicans. We're going to take Michigan.

[Jimmy Dore]

So now keep in mind, he's talking about El Sayed and that he was 100% against El Sayed in the primary. He was for this, that crazy lady Haley. And. But now that he's won, he goes, hey, we're going to beat the Republican. He goes, we're going to take it with this guy. And why is he so calm and cool about it? Well, let's, let's play the rest of it and I'll explain it to you. And we're going to win back the Senate leadership and we're going to win.

[Haley Stevens]

I know you endorse Kelly Stevens, but if outside Glenn wins this primary, will you endorse the winner of the primary?

[Jimmy Dore]

So they asked if this guy, these, these, these Leftists, these far left people win primaries, are you going to endorse them? Right.

[Mike McRae]

Bottom line, we are going to win Michigan, take back the Senate and have a majority.

[Jimmy Dore]

So why is he so calm that

[Mike McRae]

this guy's going now, bitch, they're going to endorse me?

[Jimmy Dore]

That's exactly right. Because he knows that he's the power center, that he's now going to become the majority leader in the Senate. He's a Zionist. He's going to work with Donald Trump to keep that money going to Ukraine, to keep that money going to Israel, to keep that money going. Keep that money going to Wall street and big pharma and the tech bros. And the oil. He, he. And to the data centers. He knows that he's the power. And so now what else said is going to. So now he's. So now we used to have Joe Manchin, remember, Joe Manchin was the guy who would always, when Democrats were close to getting something passed that would actually help people. Joe Manchin would. Well, when I was younger, it would be Joe Lieberman. Joe. Joe Lieberman was that guy. And then, so then they got rid of Joe Lieberman. Then they brought in Joe Manchin. He was the guy. He was the Democrat that would screw them. And now they have Fetterman. They have, they have the John Fetterman. They have John Fetterman. He's the guy. Yeah. So it doesn't matter that Al Said won. And in fact, El Sayed is not all that you think he is. Just to let you know, I had an interaction with him about masks and Covid and stuff like that. And I went back to get those posts to show you that he was a fat Nazi when it came to Covid. And guess what? He deleted all his posts.

[Mike McRae]

Oh, he better.

[Jimmy Dore]

They're all deleted. So I couldn't show you our interactions. I did call him a phony and a coward and a liar. And he was lying and he was lying about Fauci. He was defending. This is going back to 2021.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah, right. People don't remember stuff like this.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so I went back to get it. I'm like, oh my God. He. He scrubbed it. So he so just took this to let you know, scrubbed his record. And so, so that's the. So. So I don't want to. I don't. I know people. It's a good day that they beat apac, but it doesn't really matter because this is the guy who's gonna show. Show Chuck Schumer. This is the guy who's Gonna. This is the. And this guy is a rabid Zionist, just like Federman, just like Lindsey Graham. Chuck Schumer is just like Trump. And so he's going to be the leader. Trump's going to be in control and it doesn't matter.

[Mike McRae]

And I don't centrist on they love Israel.

[Jimmy Dore]

I. And I don't want to. What? What? I got it. So. And here. And here's what Sam Husseini, who will be on the show this Friday, he said the energy and effort from the El Sayed campaign may help Schumer become majority leader. Do people really think they can meaning meaningfully fight against genocide inside a genocidal party?

[Mike McRae]

Right. Which would be all of the parties.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here is our friend Nick Cruz and he's going to tell you basically what I just told you, but in a more entertaining way. Let's listen.

[Nick Cruz]

Abdul Al Said defeats Haley Stevens in a tightly contested Michigan Senate primary race. Congratulations. You guys. Nominated another guy to the Senate who vows to continue to send weapons to Nazis in Ukraine and promote forever war against Russia. Abdul Al Said lied to people when he said he was anti war. He claimed he opposed sending taxpayer money overseas in order to fight foreign wars. Except that there are Nazis in Ukraine who want to kill more Russians.

[Jimmy Dore]

Can you explain your position on foreign

[Kit Gabella]

aid as it applies to Israel but also more broadly?

[Abdul El Sayed]

Yeah, look, I just don't believe in unconditional foreign military aid.

[Nick Cruz]

Abdul Al Said hates guns and he wants the American people to be limited in the amount of guns that they can own. Except if you are Nazi in Ukraine, then he 100% is pro gun and is willing to arm them to the tee. The NATO left claims they are against gun violence. Meanwhile, the weapons shipments that they approve being sent to Ukraine is leading to a black market boom of guns that are now being sent in the hands of terrorist groups and neo Nazis. Abdul Al Said and the NATO left claims to care about the environment. Meanwhile, they support Ukraine, who blew up the Nord Stream pipeline, the largest act of eco terrorism in human history. The intellectual inconsistencies from the NATO left is endless. What does it matter if you advocate for social welfare programs if you are also pushing for a massively destabilizing war against a nuclear superpower? The ruling class is using the issue of Palestine in order to normalize other pro war positions in less spaces. Supporting NATO is incompatible with Palestinian liberation and the peace movement as a whole.

[Jimmy Dore]

So. I know, I know. I don't. I know everybody wants to be happy today and you should be happy that they defeated AIPAC and beat back the Zionist lobby and the millions and dollars and the billionaires, Paul Zingers and all them. But he's just going to go there and work underneath the chief Zionist in the Democratic Party, Chuck Schumer. And he's for, he's going to be for the NATO. He's going to be for the next NATO war. He's against Russia, the whole bullshit.

[Mike McRae]

All the people still believe in that you're going to democracy way out of the crazy thing you live in. You should wear a little birthday hat when these great things happen. Wear a little. Yeah, and we make a wish or something because you are a fucking child. I don't give a shit if you want to feel happy. The truth's the truth.

[Jimmy Dore]

I know.

[Mike McRae]

Is it ever going to be a thing where everybody goes, no, it's not good enough. You said this and this happened.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Mike McRae]

Is that ever going to be a thing? Never.

[Jimmy Dore]

Did he have anything to say about the fascism imposed on us during COVID The 41% of Black owned businesses that were closed down permanently. Just that. Just like I brought up to Cardell West. He didn't have a word to say about it.

[Mike McRae]

Same policies.

[Jimmy Dore]

Israel did not have a word to say about it. Nobody cared when it came to standing up for workers, when it counted, when people were being forced to take poison so they could go to work and support their family, they didn't stand up for them. In fact, they did the opposite. They oppressed them. That was fascism, remember, is the joining of corporations in the state. And that's exactly what Covid was. It was the state doing the implementation of the agenda of Big Pharma. That's exactly what it was. And by the way, the military industrial complex, because DARPA and Fauci invented that, that virus. Let's remember that.

[Mike McRae]

We got ours from Raleigh. It didn't come from China. Everybody's responsible for their own population thinning virus.

[Jimmy Dore]

So I just, I just caution everybody to get over. I've been through this too many times.

[Mike McRae]

Oh, mom, Tommy's a communist and mom,

[Jimmy Dore]

Donnie is the farthest thing. So mom, dummy, they're like, oh, but he's going to do a rent. He did a rent freeze. Which is good. Guess who else did a rent freeze? De Blasio. That piece of garbage de Blasio did. So is it like this is unprecedented and he's going to, he's going to do some things around the edges. But remember that Mondavi had a meeting with George Soros and his kid and they endorse It's.

[Interviewer]

It's.

[Mike McRae]

He's a rent freeze. He's not going to let him build more housing or, like, stop having foreign investors buy it all up. That's what drives the price up, right? They can't do nothing about that. So he's Epstein's kid.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's going to do enough good things to keep people inside the Democratic Party. I'm not saying. I'm not saying that mom Dummy would be worse than Andrew Cuomo. I'm saying that de Blasio also did a rent freeze and that he's going to do just enough. He's going to give you just enough crumbs to keep people inside the Democratic Party.

[Mike McRae]

That's their competition is how can I suck enough? But not more than I imagine the other side sucks that you're obligated to vote for me. Whatever they can get away with the most, that doesn't help you. And then people make it like it's a guilt thing, like you're black pilling the crowd, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

So I know people are going to call me a purist or whatever. This is not about that. And I'll join. I'll join with Abdul El Sayed when he wants to do. He wants to defund Israel, and I'll join with him. I think that's great. I think it's great that people are waking up to it. And maybe, maybe someday we can get a majority of people elected that will want to defund Israel, but by that time, it'll be too late. Our country's already. Our country's on its last legs. I don't. People don't realize this. As soon as the dollar is no longer the reserve currency of the world, it's over for the United States. We have no manufacturing base. We sent it to China. And then we want to go to war with them. Oh, gosh darn China. We got to put tariffs on them. Why? Because we took all our jobs and sent them there. Now they make all our stuff. How can we possibly go to war with the country that makes all our stuff?

[Mike McRae]

Listen, you have to help us, China,

[Jimmy Dore]

because we can't even beat Iran. 90 million beaten.

[Mike McRae]

I mean, I don't even count Grenada. I don't even count that one. I feel like that's horseshit. You know, when do we win? How do you get a military industrial complex? That's that. They want to give a.

[Jimmy Dore]

They give them a. They give them a trillion and a half dollars and they can't win a war.

[Mike McRae]

Never win. Ever.

[Jimmy Dore]

They're losing. They're going to lose to Russ. Ukraine. That's a, that's a NATO war. That's not a Ukraine war. They're lose, they lose to Iran. Did we, did we really wind in Iraq? Is that a win, friends?

[Mike McRae]

It's still, still, I'm telling you, are like, we need to stop Putin.

[Jimmy Dore]

There's still, I know people are still

[Mike McRae]

Jones and Putin and Putin where they're at

[Jimmy Dore]

and that. And there's no fixing that kind of stupid. There just is no fixing that kind of stupid Putin. All right.

[Mike McRae]

A massive collapse would fix it. Starvation. I'll bet it will help.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy dork.com clicking on join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. So Aaron Rodgers has the last laugh when it comes to Covid. You remember he famously wouldn't take the COVID vaccine and everyone shamed him like they were supposed to and make him like he, he doesn't care about other people.

[Mike McRae]

No last laugh over Aziz. I find that hard to believe.

[Jimmy Dore]

He actually figured out that, no, the COVID vaccine was garbage and it didn't, didn't stop from transmission and it didn't stop you from getting it. So it was pointless to mandate it or get angry at someone for not taking it. And by the way, the more Covid vaccines you take, the more likely you are to get Covid and the more likely you are to get sick. That's according to the Cleveland Clinic study, which they will lie to you about if you look up the Cleveland Clinic study, the establishment. No, no, that's been debunked. That's not real. Okay, it is. But here's what, here's what Aaron Rodgers said on Joe Rogan that made everybody go crazy. What was it like for you?

[Aaron Rodgers]

It was, it was really difficult for sure. And a lot of different reasons. I think I knew that this was coming down, that at some point I was going to talk about my status because I'd chosen to not get vaxxed for reasons that you talked about on your show and I talked about on

[Jimmy Dore]

we should just say it because it's kind of important.

[Aaron Rodgers]

You.

[Jimmy Dore]

You're allergic to a medication or a part of the vaccine, right?

[Aaron Rodgers]

What is it called? Peg. Polyethylene glycol.

[Haley Stevens]

And

[Aaron Rodgers]

so I did my research. Now, I think typically speaking, because I'm healthy and I take care of myself, getting vaccinated was not on the top of my list. But, you know, I wanted to look into it because everybody was doing it and talking about it and trying to be safe, and I wanted to make sure I was, you know, doing my part. If that's what was necessary to keep myself safe and my loved ones safe and my teammates safe, then I.

[Jimmy Dore]

And it turns out that wasn't. That wasn't part of doing your. You didn't have to get vaccinated to keep yourself safe or to keep other people safe. You know that the death rate for. From COVID for people under 70. 0.04%.

[Mike McRae]

Where are you getting those numbers from?

[Jimmy Dore]

Not 1%, not 0.1%. 0.0% for healthy people under 70. Okay. Just so you know, so you didn't have to do this. It was all a hoax. It was all made up. Okay.

[Aaron Rodgers]

Looked into it. And at the time I went on the CDC website and they specifically said, you know, if. If you're allergic to pg, we do. We do not recommend you get vaccinated with the MRNA vaccinations. So the only other one available was Johnson and Johnson and it had just got pulled at the time for blood clots.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there you go.

[Mike McRae]

My friend had a bad reaction too.

[Jimmy Dore]

And here's the. Here's the. Ron Placone got the Johnson and Johnson shot and Johnson, apparently he. In his. Apparently he dodged a bullet. He didn't get the blood clots, so good for him. Peter A. McCullough. So now he. If you don't know who Peter McCullough is, he was one of the people out in front calling out the COVID vaccines and things like that and telling the truth about COVID And he's the leading cardiologist in the country. He's like the number three most cited and published doctors in the country. So. And then they, then they tried to discredit him. So he said, this is back in 2022. Aaron Rodgers on Joe Rogan appropriately declined it because Peg allergy. If this contra contradiction was respected by employers, schools, et cetera, the US would have avoided most of the 2,304 anaphylaxis and 32,314 severe allergic reactions recorded by the CDC as of August 19th. Rogers made the right call. Here he is again. Multiple venous thrombosis are consistent with ongoing MRNA driven thrombogenic spike proteins. Bet he regrets the shot. So he's talking about this. This has been deleted. About this other person who got blood thinners will sideline for a long time from football. Many players wish they were as strong as Aaron Rodgers and Cole Beasley. Here's another one, Pierre Corey, leading emergency doctor in the country.

[Mike McRae]

I know more. That's up to Rosie o'. Donnell. And she said no.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. I was about to say even a football player knows this, but then I remembered we are talking about Aaron Rodgers, who I personally think has the credentials to run the FDA. 100% would do a far better job. Aaron Rodgers. Science that can't be questioned is propaganda. That's exactly right.

[Mike McRae]

Why is a football player seem to be the only guy that understands science in the entire world of sports?

[Jimmy Dore]

Now here's. Here's a guy who I have zero respect for. He's a. He's a real establishment. I don't know. I'm a white guy, so I can't call him an Uncle Tom. That's so I'm not doing that.

[Mike McRae]

But I respect Magic Johnson's early life sex practices more than I respect Kareem Abdul Jabbar, put it that way.

[Jimmy Dore]

Me too. So let's watch.

[Kareem Abdul-Jabbar]

You know, just the way that he used the word immunized instead of vaccinated, that shows his lack of understanding of the whole science of immunology.

[Jimmy Dore]

So this is an asshole alkyriem who doesn't know anything about anything, who's a paid mouthpiece for big pharma. FYI, I'm going to show you that in a second. And he doesn't know that they changed the definition of what a vaccine is. A vaccine used to give you immunity to a virus. And then when Covid came along, they changed the definition and said it creates an immune response. So it used to be called. Used to be an immune immunization.

[Mike McRae]

So it's been debunked. Jimmy. Because guess what? Science changes. And it's whatever we say it is.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Mike McRae]

Corporation, Big Pharma. You sound like a fool.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let's listen to the rest of this idiot.

[Kareem Abdul-Jabbar]

He doesn't get it. His lack of responsibility, you know, for his friends, family, team, staff and fans.

[Jimmy Dore]

So again, we all know that that was all a pack of lies. Dr. Fauci. Now because of his diaries and the freedom of information emails that we've Seen. He knew at the beginning that the vaccines did not stop transmission, they did not stop contract, and they didn't work well. And the spike protein was. He was warned by the guy who discovered aids. He was warned, hey, you don't want to make a vaccine with the spike protein because that's going to F people up. So he knew all this stuff at the beginning. And so this guy is just there, dreams, reading that.

[Mike McRae]

He's reading that off a fucking prompter. That's not his words, I promise you that. He's reading that just like that dipshit that wanted his Neil Young and kick my stuff off Spotify. None of these people are in charge of what they're saying.

[Kareem Abdul-Jabbar]

That he lied to and exposed to COVID 19. It shows a lack of moral character

[Mike McRae]

that can't be ignored.

[Jimmy Dore]

It shows a lack of moral character that you're skeptical of the government and Big Pharma. No, it shows a lack of moral character that you come on a program that's funded by big Pharma and you shame someone for being correctly skeptical of Big Pharma and the poison there. So what you did, what Kareem Abdul Jabbar did there was he got people killed. He got people killed and injured because lots of people died after taking that vax. And then they did. They counted. So if you died the day after you got the vax, which a lot of people did, they didn't count you as vaccinated. They counted you as an unvaccinated death. If you died two weeks after you got the vaccine, they counted you as unvaccinated. So by him doing this, he's encouraging people to go take poison. Poison that is still making me sick five years later. Five years later. Do you know how hard it is for me to keep a positive mental attitude while I have to fight through waves of fatigue and body aches and joint pain and headaches? Do you know how hard it is for me to not just break down? Did you get try getting boosted and to not be. Not that the anger eat me from the inside out. You know how hard it is for me. Just. That's just me and way. And people have it way worse than me. And so I don't even know how they get through it. But this guy here is so this, this is. This is called projection. So he's doing the thing he's claiming Aaron Rodgers is doing. He's making it less safe for people who wanted to stand up for their bodily autonomy. Bodily, autonomous bodily autonomy. My body, my choice. What he's Doing is he's signing with. He's siding with the Nazis during World War II because the Nuremberg Code says you have to have informed consent. And Dr. Fauci suppressed all the red flags, safety signals about the vaccines, so we didn't get conformed consent. And that's why they had to give him a pardon going back 10 years, because he committed crime after crime after crime. And here is this fucking nimrod going on cnn, which is sponsored by the people who are poisoning us and killing people on the regular for profit. And what is he? He's not upset at those people. He's upset at people who are correct.

[Mike McRae]

So he's a script like a zombie.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's a zombie mouthpiece, garbage person.

[Kareem Abdul-Jabbar]

Like I said before, his ignorance regarding the science of immunology brings back, like, old stereo stereotypes, like the big dumb athlete who doesn't understand what's going on in medicine.

[Jimmy Dore]

That would be you. That would be you. Are you looking into a mirror? You're the big dumb athlete who doesn't understand the psyop that's being played on him. Would you. You would have volunteered for the Tuskegee experiments, I bet, because you don't want to go against authority. You don't want to go against establishment. You want to be a moron and do what you're told. Go do what you're told, Kareem. Do what you're told. Do what the white man on the TV told you to do, but do it.

[Mike McRae]

A stereotype that he's making up. A stereotype athletes are known for. Everybody I ever knew that was an athlete, especially professional athletes, they're up on stuff you can't even. You never heard of because that's their moneymaker, is their body. So they're really up on that shit. In fact, every other arena other than this one time, you're allowed to be that way and you're praised. Like if you don't want to eat GMOs or some shit.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right. So you want to eat organic. You want to eat organic food. You don't want to eat GMOs. Yeah, you were praised for it up until now.

[Mike McRae]

All of a sudden, out of nowhere, who's that creep tech guy that kept getting his son's blood, now he's got an autoimmune.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Mike McRae]

And no one was saying he's bad other than, you know, poor people. None of the media was against his longevity thing, and that was crazy, and he's sick from it.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Sam Tripoli points out, friend of the show. Fun fact, Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the spokesperson for a Pfizer medication that raises awareness about arterial fibrillation. And so that afib. It's a heart condition. Guess what causes heart conditions? The COVID vaccine. So that's called a scam. When they cause a problem and then they sell you the solution. And irregular heartbeat condition. He got the shot and now he's promoting medication for an irregular heartbeat. Draw your own conclusions. We live in a clown world.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah, no shit.

[Jimmy Dore]

Here's. Here's genius Terry Bradshaw, who we made fun of at the live show. Our next live show is August 30th at the Burbank. But anyway, here we go.

[Legal Expert]

1.

[Jimmy Dore]

I give Aaron Rodgers some advice.

[Aaron Rodgers]

It would have been nice if he had just come to the Naval Academy and learn how to be honest.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Kareem Abdul-Jabbar]

Learned.

[Jimmy Dore]

Learn not to lie. Because that's what you did, Aaron. You lied to everyone.

[Aaron Rodgers]

I understand.

[Jimmy Dore]

Immunized.

[Aaron Rodgers]

What you were doing was taking stuff that would keep you from getting COVID 19.

[Jimmy Dore]

You got COVID 19 ivermectum as a cattle dewormer.

[Nick Cruz]

Sorry folks.

[Aaron Rodgers]

That's what it is.

[Mike McRae]

Your dumb wife told you, you idiot.

[Jimmy Dore]

Sorry folks. Sorry folks. I'm a. And I repeat what I hear on the tv. And my wife, who's supposedly a doctor, is just as dumb as me.

[Mike McRae]

You were good as on coach as the dumb guy. I'll give him that. I'll give them.

[Jimmy Dore]

Can you believe that he's. That he's.

[Interviewer]

I remember.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm sorry. That's. He wouldn't. People wouldn't do a 5 second Google. How long does it take you to type in Ivermectin into Google? Not a doctor.

[Mike McRae]

Maybe three Type.

[Jimmy Dore]

Maybe three seconds. And you would know that it was a human medicine that won the Nobel Prize for human medicine. They won't even.

[Mike McRae]

Since then. And he still doesn't get it, this fucking idiot. He's been told point blank and he still doesn't get it.

[Jimmy Dore]

And he said, I know. I should. We should. We. We showed that at the live show. Here's what the Green Bay packers, after Aaron had left, they tweeted this out. Jesus Christ, Aaron. That's that. That's what they said.

[Mike McRae]

The whole team. What They're. They're. So it's the person that handles that, the zoomer or millennial that handles that for the team wrote that.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here is the kind of memes. Wow, I'm braver and tougher than Aaron Rodgers. Smarter too. Turns out none of those things.

[Mike McRae]

Not for long.

[Jimmy Dore]

So now we all know because of Dr. Fauci's diaries and we all know because of the freedom of information requests about his emails that he lied about everything and that he was warned about the vaccines by the guy who invented who discovered aids. Told him, hey, don't use a medicine that has the spike protein. That's going to be really bad. He was, he was warned, don't give this to pregnant women because it's going to go after. It's going to go into their babies and their fetus. He said, don't give it to regular women because it's going to go into their ovaries. So he was. And then he came out and lied and said there's no say. So he knew about. He knew it didn't stop contraction, he knew it didn't stop transmission. He knew all this stuff and lied.

[Mike McRae]

Well, he does what he's told.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so. And so now this docs. And now still half the country doesn't want to know this because the media, who which is paid by big pharma is still lying for, for Dr. Fauci. But now most people get it. I would say at least when I go up. I went up at the improv on Monday. Everybody laughed when I brought up Dr. Fauci's name.

[Mike McRae]

No, dear friends of mine don't get it.

[Jimmy Dore]

And that is shitlib central in the heart of West Hollywood. And so I was making fun of Dr. Fauci and what he did at the hearings and everybody laughed. So it was fine. And so now here's. Here he is being asked, listen, what he's. Here's how he respond now. Now he's going to do a victory lap because he was right about COVID and all those people were wrong a

[Interviewer]

couple times today because you've been very open about coming back for this year.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's going to play one more year. Aaron Rodgers. Whoa, rodeo.

[Interviewer]

And you talked about your wife saying, hey, have another year. Mike McCarthy being here, obviously a big deal. Can you tell us about the mindset of coming into your last season? Like that's a real thing. It feels like, like because is everything better? Is everything funner? Is everything more awesome? Like how do you kind of view this year versus maybe the years of the past?

[Aaron Rodgers]

I'm going to plead the fifth.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Nick Cruz]

Okay.

[Aaron Rodgers]

Got to love that guy.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay.

[Aaron Rodgers]

Like that absolute coward Tony Fest. Absolute.

[Jimmy Dore]

And the crowd goes wild.

[Nick Cruz]

Yeah, it's back.

[Aaron Rodgers]

Are you kidding me?

[Interviewer]

Yeah. 111.

[Aaron Rodgers]

You got a pardon. And you pleaded over a hundred times at the White House. What are you scared of, Tony? I thought you were the science.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Aaron Rodgers]

Yeah, I thought you were. I am science. And you get up there and you can't answer a question.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Aaron Rodgers]

What are we doing? And how much time did the network spend of that? How much time did they spend on my responses every week on my vaccination status on Taylor and Travis's wedding?

[Haley Stevens]

Yeah.

[Aaron Rodgers]

Did they. Did they do even a minute. Did they do even a minute on Tony Fauci?

[Interviewer]

No, I didn't. I don't think I've heard that.

[Aaron Rodgers]

I bet they didn't.

[Interviewer]

But on that note, then, they were.

[Aaron Rodgers]

Was another scandal this offseason, too, involving a voter for MVP for coach of the year. How much time do you. Did your network spend. Where's your camp? Did your network spend on that?

[Nick Cruz]

I wish.

[Kareem Abdul-Jabbar]

I wish.

[Aaron Rodgers]

F. This is awesome. Go back to Fauci.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Aaron Rodgers]

Go back to the coward Tony Fauci in science, who's spending the entire time writing in his diary about how fun it is to be famous. You gotta be kidding me.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so on that note.

[Aaron Rodgers]

What are you gonna say about me now? What are you gonna say about me now?

[Interviewer]

I got no debate here. You had a 500.

[Aaron Rodgers]

Seriously, what are they gonna say about me now? Now. Now that you can't talk about the COVID stuff, because obviously it was. It was made, you know, in a lab in China. That's like, not even questionable anymore. Tony Fauci is an absolute criminal. I'm on. I'm on good terms with my family. I'm on good terms with my family. What are you gonna say now? What are you going to say now?

[Interviewer]

I want to let you know it's been a fun ride for you. I would.

[Aaron Rodgers]

It's been a great, great life and a great career, and it's nice to be sitting on this side now. Especially after that coward played the fifth over 100 times.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Aaron Rodgers]

I thought you had a part in there, Tony. Why couldn't you answer one question the entire time?

[Interviewer]

Okay, we got four minutes until the heart out.

[Aaron Rodgers]

Yeah, I got four more minutes. We keep this going, we keep it going. Anything else? I got at least four minutes.

[Interviewer]

Okay. I got.

[Kit Gabella]

Okay.

[Jimmy Dore]

So good on Aaron Rodgers.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah. Because that punk ass host wanted to move on.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Mike McRae]

Never move on from that. Every time I. Because I chimp out, as they say over it. When people talk about Rogan's compromise. Now he's the only one besides this fucking guy. And then you, after you got injured, who were telling the truth about this. Like, don't do your own research. I'm not over them saying that to me, why would you ever. Your government told you to not do your own research and then you didn't. I, I, not your viewers, but you know what I'm saying? You should feel like less than a slug.

[Jimmy Dore]

So, and if your friends shame you for doing your own research, get better friends. They're everywhere. They're, they're not in Hollywood, but virtually anywhere else. Here's what he else has to say.

[Sam Tripoli]

The blueprint, the game plan was made in the 80s. Create a pandemic, you know, with a virus that's going wild, talking about AIDS. Only he was given, Fauci was given like over $350 million to research this, to come up with drugs new or repurposed to handle the AIDS pandemic. And all they came up with, easy was azt. And if you do any, even a smidge of research, and I know I'm not a, you know, epidemiologist, I'm not a doctor, I'm not an immunologist, whatever the fuck. I can read though, right? And, and, and I can learn and look things up just like any normal person. You know, I can do my own research, which was so vilified, you know, even question authority. But that was the game plan back then. Create an environment where only one thing works back then. Azt. Now remdesivir. Remdesivir until we get a vaccine. Which by the way, Anthony Fauci had stake in the moderna vaccine. And we know Pfizer is one of the most criminally corrupt organizations ever. The fine they paid was the biggest in the history of the DOJ in 2009. Like, what are we talking about? We're going to put our full trust in science that can't be questioned.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well said. Again, well said. I like this guy, Richard Feynman. He said, I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned. Trust the science is the most anti science statement ever. Questioning science is how you do science.

[Mike McRae]

Yeah, well, being a cow, like most of my friends that got into show business and they all go, you know, don't be the tall piece of grass to get your head chopped off. You might not be.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Mike McRae]

You might not be able to sit down with Jimmy Fallon or something. I don't know what you get now.

[Jimmy Dore]

You get, you get to go on shows nobody watches, like Jimmy Kimmel. It's just unbelievable that you don't need these people anymore. I'm living proof of it. I, I, I'm living proof. I, I do this show. I. I do it on YouTube and rumble and I don't need anybody. I don't need a gatekeeper. I don't need a Jimmy kimmel or Jimmy Fallon. I don't need abc. I don't need comedy central. I do it not then I go on, I tour. I tour all over the world and sell out.

[Kit Gabella]

We have a person who found a way to fight back, and the system ain't happy about it. The government hopes to set a precedent. An interview with the man charged for allegedly wiping his graphene os phone.

[Interviewer]

Citizen wiped his phone clean at the border when immigration tried to search it. And now the federal government is charging that american with a felony that could put him in jail for up to five years. This is absolutely true. Federal prosecutors have charged samuel tunick, a u. S. Citizen, after customs officers entered a passcode he provided and his google pixel allegedly erased all of its data. Tunic was returning from the doctor through atlanta. His phone reportedly ran a type of self destruct software which allows users to create a separate duress credential that wipes the device instead of unlocking it. Tunic was indicted under 18 US 2232A, a law that's barely ever used. It prohibits the destruction or removal of property to prevent a lawful government seizure. Now, the prosecution's theory is that the phone was merely the container. The digital data was the property, and tunic knowingly caused that property to be destroyed while the officers were trying to seize it. The government doesn't have to prove that the phone contained anything illegal. The wiping of the phone is the crime. Now, tunic's lawyers argue that the detention and seizure were completely unlawful. He was targeted because of his political activism. He was not given his miranda warnings and certainly wasn't given access to an attorney. Now, what everyone has to understand is that cbp updated their rules for phone searches in early 2026. And the new rule says cbp can refer any traveler, including a u. S. Citizen, to secondary inspection without any suspicion. A basic manual phone search can be conducted without a warrant, without probable cause, without suspicion. Under current cbp policy, an advanced forensic search requires reasonable suspicion or a national security concern, plus supervisory approval. But in Atlanta, there's special rules and there's binding precedent from the 11th Circuit that says the constitution itself does not require suspicion even for a forensic border cert. And that's why the government can take your phone, especially in Atlanta, hook up wires and download stuff. Now, if a citizen does not unlock the phone, CBP under the new rules can detain the device, delay your Inspection. But because you're a citizen, you have to be allowed into the United States. Now, for Tunic, the critical issue is intent. Installing software or duress. Passcode is not illegal. Ordinary deletion for privacy is also not illegal. So if he deleted the phone well before he got on the plane and, and then entered the customs area, what did he do wrong? Nothing. But the statute expressly covers conduct before, during, or after a search. So if you know a search is about to happen, you now can't delete your phone. Now, Tunic has been charged, but not convicted. Government still has to prove the seizure was lawful and that he intended to defeat it. Let me know what you think in the comments of this case.

[Kit Gabella]

All right. Now this is an interesting one, isn't it? Let us continue. Graphene OS sounds like a good operating system. Provides users with the ability to set a direct PIN password that will irreversibly wipe the device along with any installed ESIMs. Once entered anywhere where the device credentials are rescued, the wipe does not require a reboot and cannot be interrupted. The US Government charged him with allegedly typing in a passcode to wipe his phone. Now we go on to everything else that happened that has been covered. The agent said they wanted to search his phone. He declined, asked for his lawyer multiple times. Finally, they asked for his phone and gave a pretense of searching for child abuse imagery. Of course, with no probable cause for that, Tunic gave a code which the officer tapped into the device rather than unlocking the device. That was that. Anyway, let's get your thoughts. So what we have, and I love that we got a dress code. Can I have the code there, Mr. Nixon? Yep, it's 1313. 1313. Oh, I think that was the wrong code. That was the. The Adams family. 1313 Mockingbird Lane. There we go.

[Jimmy Dore]

I love that.

[Kit Gabella]

But of course, as we see, we see the same thing over and over again, don't we get?

[Legal Expert]

Well, I would say, you know, for the very fact that he was being searched and seizured. I mean, you gotta have probable cause. If there's no probable cause, why are you going after this person?

[Kit Gabella]

No, they don't. Again.

[Legal Expert]

Okay, go ahead.

[Kit Gabella]

Customs border. Do not need. Well, they don't need. Probably call problem. This is a good question. They don't need probable cause normally, because if you're looking in, let's say, your suitcase, they can argue you could be bringing in an animal or a plant or something into the country that could bring in, you know, some disease or illness. So normally they. They don't need probable cause. For searching your physical stuff for those reasons. But you bring in a good question. There ain't no plants or animals or diseases inside of your phone now, are there?

[Legal Expert]

No, there isn't. And not to mention what data you're trying to collect. Because if they're coming after you, I mean, again, a serious allegation then of. I got to be careful of PDF material. I mean, that is a serious allegation. I mean, I mean, that was in the article, correct? That.

[Kit Gabella]

That's why.

[Haley Stevens]

Yes.

[Kit Gabella]

Yeah, they said that's what they were looking for.

[Legal Expert]

That is, that is a very serious allegation. Unless there is overwhelming proof of him committing this crime or crimes in that nature, it needs to be shared immediately. You just can't say, well, we think, well, I could think that somebody is a suitcase, there's a bomb in it, or I could think that there's illegal drugs in the other suitcase, or I could think that there's firearms in another suitcase. You, you got to have the evidence improve. You just can't say, well, we think it's on your phone. Get hand over your phone. Because then what's to say, oh, your bank account information, information, your emails, oh, your political opinions or posts or what are you posting about? Who do you follow on social media? Because now everything's up for grabs. You got to be very careful out there with how you. Which is exactly how far the surveillance state can actually come after you. Because when you make an allegation, again, you got to have the proof. Why are you indicating that he has committed his crime? Again, that is a serious. That is a serious accusation calling somebody a PDF. You know, you got to have the proof and trail of evidence. Otherwise, you know, they could be facing a lawsuit because of that accusation alone.

[Sam Tripoli]

All right.

[Kit Gabella]

Yeah, they don't even have.

[Legal Expert]

Yeah, unless. Unless there's, unless there's something more to the story to lead the first development of any kind of accusation. You got to back that up with proof. Otherwise this guy's got a lawsuit on his hands against the customs border.

[Kit Gabella]

Yeah, he could. Yeah. They have a lot of leeway in what they can do at the customs along borders because of things going in and out. I guess they're going to argue terrorism or something like that. But the fact of the matter is they would have probably been better off legally if they hadn't accused them of anything. If they just said we want to in search, you know, they could have said terrorism, anything, something that they. Their jurisdiction. But just out of the blue, let me see, what do you think?

[Interviewer]

I don't know.

[Kit Gabella]

Let's go with PDF stuff. Sounds good to me. PDF stuff, you know, that's the way it seems like they didn't have anything else. They didn't expect him to ask them. And when he asked them, they're like, okay, well I guess that's as good as anything. And ultimately we, we end another end up with another person on the business end of a criminal legal system. Oh well kid, I know that you're a busy man, you got a lot of important things going on and hanging out here with us has been get great but a man of your channel, tremendous stature. We know you've got to go out there and save the world and the world won't be saved unless you're able to do it. So. Kit Gabella is the co founder, communications director and host of Hard Linds Media. A native resident of Chicago, Kit served two tours in Iraq during Operation Iraqi Freedom in the United States Marine Corps. And most likely, Kit, you fall into one of those groups that they've named so you know, shortly somebody will be beating down your door to drag you away for clapping over a data center.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Oman and Iran are working on a deal so to get the Strait of Hormuz open. And Israel does not want that. They want to keep the war going as long as they can. They want to keep Donald Trump in this war. And so what did they do?

[Mike McRae]

Crocodile moat

[Jimmy Dore]

they had it. So an understanding was reached on coordinates for shipping route through Hormuz and Iran. Iran says and so they've reached the deal and Israel immediately sabotaged it. So let's just tell you what the deal is. Iran and Oman have reached an understanding on the geographic coordinates for a shipping route through the Strait of Hormuz and a joint announcement is being finalized, provided certain third parties do not interfere. Well, guess what? Iran's Foreign Ministry Baghi added that any such agreement between Iran and Oman would not by itself guarantee security in the strategic waterway. The proposed deal between Iran and Oman would give Tehran control over ships entering the Gulf through the Strait of Hormuz. And a senior Iranian source and two regional officials told Reuters that went on Wednesday in one of the biggest concessions yet to Iran. So Iran is going to control the Strait of so if you control the people who get to go in, you effectively control the people who get to go out. So you can't go out unless you, you can't go out unless you go in. So you they're controlling the strait. So the deal appears to be stepping stone toward a broader cease fire agreement with the United States that would reopen the Strait of Hormuz for marine traffic and lift a US Blockade on Iranian ports that has brought upheaval in global energy markets. It comes as Donald Trump has claimed that there could be an announcement as soon as Wednesday on a separate U. S. Iran peace deal. But the sources pushed back against assertions by Trump that a deal reopening the strait was imminent, saying important details still had to be agreed to if endorsed by the U.S. the Iran Oman deal would mark a significant concession by handing partial control over the waterway to Iran. The Strait of Hormuz was a neutral waterway before the US So before the strait was completely open. Now, after Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu started this war, now Iran's going to control it.

[Mike McRae]

Well, don't worry. I think Israel will fuck this up before it becomes anything.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, here it is, Kurt.

[Mike McRae]

Oh great.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here it is. Israel strikes Lebanon after accusing Hezbollah of ceasefire violations.

[Mike McRae]

Who could have seen this coming, Jimmy?

[Jimmy Dore]

At the same time, Israel and Lebanese negotiators were holding talks in Rome aimed at fostering long term diplomatic settlement. They just start bombing. They start bombing a city. Let's get to it. The Israeli military said on Wednesday that it had started conducting strikes in southern Lebanon, accusing Hezbollah and Lebanese militant group of ceasefire violations. Both sides have accused each other of violating the ceasefire for weeks. Asked for comment, Hezbollah spokesman said the Israeli statements were false claims and pretexts. Well, we know that Israel has a long, long history of breaking ceasefires. The agreement between the United States and Iran in June to pause their war also called for an end to military operations in Lebanon. While there have been periodic flare ups since the since then between Israel and Hezbollah, the two sides have largely scaled back their fighting against each other. On Wednesday, Israeli and Lebanese negotiators were meeting in Rome for the second consecutive day of talks aimed at fostering a long term diplomatic solution. Israel is bombing southern Lebanon again right on cue to scuttle the Hormuz peace deal. Trump has been teasing. Color me shocked. So that's what's happening. And now you know the rest of the story is the stock market OK though, but, but people are. But I guess if, if I report this, this means I hate Jews.

[Mike McRae]

Mike Binder's right. You're very hateful, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm very hateful. Anyway, so there you go. So now you know the rest of the story and there's just no stopping the Greater Israel Project. And they are, they are psychopaths. The people running Israel are psychopaths. And most of the People in Israel, that's.

[Mike McRae]

Well, the ones that aren't left, they went to Cyprus. Oh, and America.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Mike McRae]

Mike Biden don't live in fucking Israel. Is he taking a trip there soon? I bet he ain't. What, do you hate Jews? Why'd you want to go there?

[Jimmy Dore]

So, again, most of the Jews I know, not Zionists, lots of Hasidic Jews, are totally against the Israel project as a thing. And the Greater Israel Project is the thing that makes Jews less safe. If it wasn't for Israel, Jews would be much, much safer.

[Mike McRae]

It's literally because a bunch of very elite ones, we won't have to. We won't name names. But they wanted a buffer of the poor ones that they don't want to live around. They're like, why don't we use them in our colonial ambitions? This is a real classic British move. And that's how Theodore Herzl sold it to. Well, we don't need to say who, because I don't want to get Marjorie Taylor Greene. But that was. They're like, you want these Lithuanians living with you, ruining your rich party? That's why they sent him there. If you still think in this tribal way, you don't understand it's the people above you and not the people next to you, then I. I don't know what. What it's gonna take, man.

[Jimmy Dore]

All right, so there you go. Who could. Who would have thunk it? They're close to a deal, and Benjamin Netanyahu sabotages the deal. They are a cancer. Israel is a cancer. And again, Zionists like to conflate Jews and Israel, and they're not the same thing. And Zionism and Jews, also not the same thing. Judaism and Zionism, not the same thing.

[Mike McRae]

I mean, I'd say the whole west has a kind of corrosive effect on all things good.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, I agree. Hey, become a premium member. Go to jimmy dorecomedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be, and I'll keep being me.

[Interviewer]

Out.

[Haley Stevens]

Don't. Don't freak out. I'm not kidding. Do not. Do not.

[Abdul El Sayed]

I'm not.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm not.

[Nick Cruz]

I'm not.

[Sam Tripoli]

I'm not.

[Aaron Rodgers]

I'm not.

[Nick Cruz]

I'm not.

[Haley Stevens]

Don't freak out.

[Jimmy Dore]

Do not Freak out. Freak out, freak out, freak out, freak out.