EXCLUSIVE: Whitney Cummings Responds To Critics Of Her CNN NYE Performance!

Summary

The Jimmy Dore Show – EXCLUSIVE: Whitney Cummings Responds To Critics Of Her CNN NYE Performance!

Release Date: January 6, 2025

In this compelling episode of The Jimmy Dore Show, host Jimmy Dore welcomes comedian Whitney Cummings to address the backlash she faced following her New Year's Eve performance on CNN. The episode delves deep into the intersection of comedy, media criticism, and alleged mainstream media corruption, offering listeners a nuanced exploration of the challenges faced by comedians who dare to confront established narratives.

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Whitney Cummings' Controversial CNN NYE Performance

[01:13] Whitney Cummings takes the spotlight as she discusses her infamous CNN New Year's Eve performance. She candidly shares the motivations behind her bold comedic choices, emphasizing her desire to address topics that mainstream media often sidelines.

Whitney Cummings:

"It was actually a wild experiment because, like, I was scared, and I was like, what am I scared of?...I'm not going to get on."

Cummings explains her strategic approach to comedy, choosing to land her political jokes towards the end of her set to maximize impact without jeopardizing the overall vibe of her performance.

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Facing the Backlash: Labelled as a Conspiracy Theorist

Following her performance, Whitney faced significant criticism, notably from The Daily Beast, which labeled her as promoting "wild conspiracy theories." Jimmy Dore and co-host Kurt Metzger dissect this backlash, attributing it to what they perceive as widespread media manipulation.

[05:19] Jimmy Dore recounts the criticism:

"The Daily Beast called you a conspiracy field. They said 'comedians wild conspiracy theory filled roast Wild shock, CNN host during.'"

Whitney counters these accusations by highlighting the absurdity of the claims and questioning the credibility of the critics.

[16:28] Whitney Cummings:

"It is a pretty amazing way to discredit curious people that ask questions. I'm happy to be wrong. Like, please tell me if I'm wrong."

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Allegations of Mainstream Media Corruption and CIA Infiltration

Dore and Metzger expand the discussion to broader claims about mainstream media being compromised by intelligence agencies, particularly the CIA. They reference Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s assertions about Operation Mockingbird, a purported CIA initiative aimed at influencing major American news outlets.

[50:32] Robert F. Kennedy Jr. states:

"President Obama adopted in 2016 that essentially reopened the door for Operation Mockingbird so that the CIA began once again to propagandize Americans."

The hosts argue that such infiltration compromises journalistic integrity, leading to biased reporting and the suppression of dissenting voices.

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Stephen Colbert and Hollywood’s Ties to Intelligence Agencies

A significant portion of the episode focuses on a clip featuring Stephen Colbert and Claire Danes discussing CIA collaborations with Hollywood. Dore and Metzger interpret this as evidence of ongoing intelligence operations within the entertainment industry.

[40:22] Claire Danes mentions:

"So Henry Burmell, who is one of our founding fathers of Homeland...he curated this week long spy camp for us Producers and writers."

Jimmy Dore critiques Colbert's role, suggesting that he may be an unwitting participant in intelligence agendas.

[41:03] Kurt Metzger adds:

"They downloaded the information right in Steven's throat before the show."

The hosts express concern over the blending of entertainment and intelligence operations, fearing it could lead to further manipulation of public perception.

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Whitney Cummings' Stand Against Censorship and Media Control

Returning to Whitney Cummings, the discussion highlights her resilience in the face of media suppression. Cummings emphasizes the importance of comedians challenging the status quo and the dangers of self-censorship.

[25:01] Whitney declares:

"The only thing scarier than censorship is self censorship."

Jimmy Dore echoes her sentiments, lamenting how some comedians reinforce established narratives instead of probing deeper societal issues.

[34:01] Jimmy Dore:

"I just can't take it when I see comedians reinforcing the status quo instead of finding the hole and poking their finger through it."

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Conclusion: The Role of Comedy in Challenging Power Structures

The episode concludes with a reaffirmation of the essential role comedians play in questioning and critiquing societal norms and power structures. Whitney Cummings, supported by Dore and Metzger, encourages fellow comedians to continue pushing boundaries and addressing uncomfortable truths, despite potential backlash.

[37:00] Whitney Cummings:

"There's enough of that [meaningless jokes]. And I was like, I'm...just thinking more clearly. I'm just like, what do I care about? What do I want to say that would matter?"

[25:59] Kurt Metzger:

"But people don't do it when they get in that situation. It's literally just what you should."

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Key Takeaways:

• Whitney Cummings' Brave Stand: Cummings' decision to tackle contentious topics on a mainstream platform like CNN exemplifies the courage required to challenge dominant narratives in media.

• Media Integrity Concerns: Dore and Metzger raise pressing concerns about the potential infiltration of intelligence agencies into mainstream media, suggesting a deliberate effort to shape public discourse.

• Comedians as Agents of Change: The episode underscores the pivotal role comedians can play in highlighting societal issues, breaking through media noise, and encouraging critical thinking among audiences.

• Resistance Against Censorship: Both Cummings and Dore advocate for resisting censorship and maintaining the integrity of individual expression, especially in comedic performances.

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Notable Quotes:

• Whitney Cummings [01:29]:

  "It was amazing that the pro choice party didn't give their voters one when it came to the presidential candidate."

• Jimmy Dore [06:00]:

  "Nobody trusts them or watches them anymore. That's why that joke was so fantastic."

• Robert F. Kennedy Jr. [50:32]:

  "The CIA is the biggest funder of journalism in the world."

• Claire Danes [57:06]:

  "The distrust between the administration and the intelligence world... the intelligence community was suddenly kind of allying itself with journalists."

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This episode serves as a thought-provoking exploration of the challenges faced by comedians like Whitney Cummings when confronting powerful media entities and societal issues. It invites listeners to reflect on the integrity of mainstream media and the vital role of comedy in fostering critical discourse.

Transcript

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[Jimmy Dore]

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[Whitney Cummings]

Establishment media sucks August lighting, so good luck.

[Jimmy Dore]

We can't afford.

[Whitney Cummings]

Medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's the chimney door show. So ladies and gentlemen, I don't know if you saw the. The fun. The famous Whitney Cummings was on the New Year's Eve show on cnn. And let me, let me just show you what she said.

[Whitney Cummings]

2024 election fried our brains. The Democrats couldn't hold a primary because they were too busy holding a body upright. Are we still rolling? Am I off?

[Jimmy Dore]

Go for it.

[Whitney Cummings]

It was amazing that the pro choice party didn't give their voters one when it came to the presidential candidate. Kamal was forced on us so hard. You think she was patented by Pfizer or Moderna? Whichever one. Oh God. And he just gave me a very scary look. I love going around the country because you see that Americans really are more reasonable than they would be portrayed. Absolutely great. And I'm playing bigger and bigger venues now. I thought being a mom would mean that less people want to come see me. I'm now playing, you know, like 3,000 seat theaters which is about the viewership of CNN these days. All eyes are on this show.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow. You're also, you know, Andy and I, Andy and I had a tour we did like. Yes. That shows the system is falling apart because she's defying the unwritten rules and tearing these assholes new assholes. Which is not an easy thing to do to give an asshole another asshole.

[Kurt Metzger]

So these two queen are covered in cat scratches right now.

[Jimmy Dore]

So anyway, let's bring in Whitney Cubbings. Is with us. Hi, Whitney. How are you? Welcome to the show.

[Whitney Cummings]

Hi, Jimmy. You know, I'm such a huge fan. I'm literally zooming in with you just to get Kurt to stop texting me things about Alan Dulles and writing.

[Kurt Metzger]

You're on a list now. You could pretend you're in.

[Whitney Cummings]

I don't. I already get texts from Joe Rogan. I already am on a list.

[Kurt Metzger]

You're under surveillance.

[Whitney Cummings]

So I was like, I'll let him go on the show live to stop getting texts from here.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, there was. There was also a part of that you didn't get to. That you shared on social media. You. You said. This is what I said at the end of my roast set on CNN tonight that I zoomed through because I was running out of time and scared since I only have a minute left and I'm live on the. Do you want to. Do you want to read that or you want me to read it?

[Whitney Cummings]

Don't make me read it.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'll read it. She said. She said. I figured I'd list some of the things mainstream media will never cover. The first Trump shooter didn't have any silverware in his house. The crown prince of Saudi Arabia put money into Disney. Why is fluoride still in our water? Monsanto paid Google to skew search results. Why are so many president chefs dead? Wow. That is.

[Whitney Cummings]

I think I should get a check for $5 million for not saying Democratic chefs.

[Kurt Metzger]

I know it was multiple. I thought it was just the one.

[Whitney Cummings]

I had this whole rant that was like, how come OB Chef's mom's videos are off TikTok? Like, who drowns in two inches of water? Why wasn't he wearing clothes? Like, I had this rant, but I didn't want it. It was an interesting line. You guys are comics. You know, more than anyone, I think that, like, finding that line to where, you know, we all have to play defense right now, because sometimes if you say something sane, you sound crazy, you know?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Whitney Cummings]

And there's stuff that's not even on the Internet to back up what you're saying because it's been deleted. So if I were to say, like, what happened to, you know, Obama's chef's mom's videos? People go, she's crazy. And I also. I don't tell you guys, I'm sober now, but during the pandemic, I had purple hair and, you know, weed was legal in California. So I also have to be careful that I can't be the ambassador for stuff like this. And people just Go like, oh, she's a crazy bitch with blue hair. You know?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, okay. But now people came after you, of course, and they were. There's a couple of different ways they came after you. The first one is, hey, why didn't you go after Trump? Right. So you tweeted out for the dorks who are grumpy that I didn't roast Trump in the CNN set. I roasted Trump so long ago, I think, in 2011 on Comedy Central. And to do that on CNN would be like shooting fish in a barrel. A home court advantage, cheap shot. There's no. That's exactly right.

[Kurt Metzger]

I was there for that.

[Jimmy Dore]

You're 100% right about that. That's exactly right.

[Whitney Cummings]

It'd be hacky. It would just be like preaching to a choir, which is what, you know, I think a lot of these networks already do. So there's nothing dangerous about roasting Trump on Fox News. That's where you roast Trump because that's where it's dangerous.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Kurt Metzger]

Right.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's exact 100%. That's.

[Whitney Cummings]

I didn't want to get, like, a rally applause of, like, doing a safe Trump joke, you know, Also, there's nothing else to say about him. It's like, people just tune out. It's so uninteresting. So I wanted to go to the place that there were the most eggshells and the thing that nobody said, you know, there's nothing nobody said about Trump yet. You know, like, what's the things people are scared to say and why. It was actually a wild experiment because, like, I was scared, and I was like, what am I scared of? Getting poisoned? Getting shunned by a business that kind of is, you know, has annihilated itself anyway, the Hollywood business. Am I worried that pedophiles won't hire me anymore? Like, what am I scared of no more? Yeah, like, I'm not going to get on. Which, by the way, I did have a. A joke that I, you know, I don't have to tell you guys. Years of hell gigs and corporate gigs. You got to really know how to choose your shots and not for something to kill the vibe. So it didn't make sense to say, but I did have, you know, queued up. You know, all eyes are on this show tonight. Like, you know, making fun of the ratings. But then. Except this show, all eyes are on the show tonight. Except when you guys mentioned balls dropping, all the producers from Nickelodeon show stopped watching. It's like, you got to have stuff loaded up that you may or may not use. I did put all of the political stuff at the end. It was initially at the beginning, you know, but I think that that was smarter to put it later. The Hunter Biden one. I had a lot of versions of that, you know, because we've heard a lot. So I wanted to go away. That was somewhat original as well. But if people are still defending Hunter Biden and defending someone who these networks have known was in a mental decline, you are not only not a Republican, not a Democrat, you're not a patriot at this point. There's. It's not about Republican and Democrat. You're going to defend the fact that these people knew that the most, someone with the most important job in the world had cognitive decline. And you're with hiding it. I mean it's, it's Whitney, hold on.

[Kurt Metzger]

Sometimes when you work as an undercover intelligence asset, you have to knowingly lie. That's why they recruit you and that's why Anderson does it. That's why that other dipshit. And they're all in on it. We just show Colbert talking to Claire Danes. It's unbelievable.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Over. Over what she's saying.

[Jimmy Dore]

So.

[Whitney Cummings]

And I'm not as smart as you guys about this. I'm not as educated as you about this. So I tried to only stay in lanes that I can actually speak to. Know that if you are allowing a cover up of cognitive decline of the leader of the free world, you're threatening not only lives of Republicans but also Democrats, your own people. Everyone's going to die.

[Jimmy Dore]

But you know what I mean, you.

[Whitney Cummings]

Don'T need to be pro choice. Everyone's going to.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, so. But I get it.

[Whitney Cummings]

The country is going to be aborted. Is that what you want?

[Jimmy Dore]

But what, what a lot of people don't realize is that journalists and all the people at cnn, they, they see it as their duty to cover for the Democratic president. That's what they saw. They convinced themselves that they were fighting this existential threat, literal Hitler. That's what they convinced themselves of. So now I have to cover for Joe Biden, I have to cover for Kamala Harris, I have to cover for the Democrats and. Exactly. That's the opposite. And that's why nobody trusts them or watches them anymore. That's why that joke was so fantastic. And there are more people watching this show that are watching cnn. And so that's what. It's a mask off moment for them. And now they have to finally admit after that debate that yeah, you know what? The Wall Street Journal just put out an Article a week or two ago. Yeah, yeah, we knew he was demented since day one. Yeah, well, we've been saying that on this fucking show since the debate he had in 2020 that he was demented. We knew it and we didn't stop saying it, and we caught a lot of shit for it. But now we're proven right.

[Whitney Cummings]

16 year old or something. I mean, wasn't there something where he was, like, creepy with a girl?

[Kurt Metzger]

His daughter showering with his own daughter till she's 15, which is in her diary. Which is confirmed to be her diary.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, it's in her diary.

[Kurt Metzger]

Environmental saving water.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

I mean, look, I assume most politicians are creeps. It's just we're. We're at a point where it's like, look, I grew up in D.C. i grew up like, you know, Clinton. No, in Monica. We let a lot slide. We let a lot slide. And this is just too much to let slide, you know? And I think that for me, I just was like, okay, let me just take an opportunity to say some things. I have a kid now. I'm sort of thinking in different ways. I'm, you know, sober. I'm just thinking more clearly. I'm just going like, you know, what do I care about? What do I want to say that would matter? You know, we're comics. We say a lot of stuff that doesn't matter. At least I do. You guys don't. On your show. But, you know, I think that it is ridiculous that are allowed to advertise on our television.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

On cnn, as a matter of fact.

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm not an expert. I'm not someone who should weigh in on that in a serious way, but.

[Kurt Metzger]

I heard him.

[Jimmy Dore]

But, Whitney, let me ask you. Aren't. Aren't you. I'm gobsmacked at the lack of people in comedy that I know in Hollywood that don't make those jokes that you made. Aren't you amazed what a huge lane there was for you to do those jokes and make fun of the fact that Pfizer is sponsoring the news and they can't. They can't offend their advertiser, their money man? What do you make of that?

[Whitney Cummings]

A couple things. You know, I think a lot of. A lot of comedians, we come off very brave. What we do is incredibly terrifying. But it also comes from a place of insecurity, of fear of not being seen or loved or getting attention or adrenaline or whatever. So we're fearless in some ways. But the upside to doing what I did on New Year's Eve. It's not. It's not that big. And the chances of it going well were very small. You know, you have to. And you guys have done it the hell gigs, the road gigs. I've been doing this for 20 years. I mean, I did the Donald Trump roast that was in 2011. Joan Rivers was, I think 2009 or something. You know, it was. And there was no audience and it was. I couldn't hear them. They. They could hear me. But the umbrellas made it weird. It was live, just kind of like, it's very unusual that you get that kind of shot. And I kind of was like, I'm uniquely qualified to do this. I uniquely have nothing to lose right now. I uniquely just had a. And think it's, you know, borderline irresponsible to go on a network like CNN and just be like, so I have a kid now. Joke, joke, meaningless joke, meaningless, joke. There's enough of that. And I was like, I'm. You know those moments where you're kind of like, look, I'm not special, you know, my self esteem isn't through the roof, but you just go like, this is a moment in time. And also, I'm someone who I think is able to go back and forth between shows like yours, thankfully, and then also mainstream shows. There's not a lot of people like R.E.M. like, people like, you know, Nate Bar. Nate Bargazi, you know, can do it now, but like, you know, Segura and Bert Kreischer, like, I want like eight, nine years ago, six years ago, tried to get them on Ellen back when that was made, you know, before.

[Kurt Metzger]

You.

[Whitney Cummings]

Knew all I got when it. When it helped, when it not to go on because you love Ellen or, you know, you just want to see island set in person. It's more that it helped them. It used to help sell tickets. So anything to help sell tickets. We're comics. We're going to do what we have to do, you know, and they wouldn't let them on. There was like this bifurcation of, you were either a YouTube comic or you played the game and you were in the industry. I can kind of do both. So I was like, I have the opportunity to do this. How about I do something to show mainstream media that what they're doing is not working anymore and show them the reaction of how many people do want to know the truth, even if it's inconvenient, that don't want pharmaceuticals paying their journalists. Like, we. There's no market for that anymore. And so I just, I think more comics don't do it because it's very rare that you get that opportunity. And why make a big mess if you know, the feedback has been like, overwhelming. But I'm a female comic. I get hate so much all the time. I was like, I can handle it.

[Kurt Metzger]

You got my email.

[Whitney Cummings]

I mean, I was like, I can handle the negativity that comes my way and I will be able to handle it if it goes sideways.

[Kurt Metzger]

How did you feel at the Trump? Because I did warm up for that. I remember it being a nightmare.

[Jimmy Dore]

Before we pay attention, before we get to that, let's get to this. So here is the Daily Beast came after you for that set. And of course the Daily, Daily Beast, which is a CIA infiltrated asset. And there's no doubt about that. And I'll show you the proof in a second. But they did it. They. They called you a conspiracy field. They said, comedians wild conspiracy theory filled roast Wild shock, CNN host during. And so all that. And so I read the article and this is the only part that they even talk about the conspiracy. It says Cummings finished her set by firing off some wacky conspiracy theories. Of course there was a moment for drones, quote, I mean, they're still up there in the sky. So I guess we can rule out that they were made by Boeing, which is hilarious.

[Whitney Cummings]

It's a joke.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hilarious. As well as dubious shout outs to Disney's funding. Dead White House Chef, the Boy Scouts of America, and even Trump shooter Thomas Crooks allegedly missing silverware. And so again, all that stuff. There are dead chefs. Obama's chef. We just talked. That's very suspicious.

[Whitney Cummings]

Clinton's chef. What if Chef died on a hike.

[Jimmy Dore]

Or something and Obama's chef drowned in like two feet of water? And wasn't he naked? And the Boy Scouts half naked. So half naked. Okay. And shout outs to Disney's fun. I mean, this is such a, such a reach and a lame attempt for them to try to discredit you. And then you tweeted out, Daily Beast. What did I say? That's a conspiracy theory. I love that face that you gave him.

[Kurt Metzger]

Look at any face. That's such a bear scared face.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's such a win.

[Whitney Cummings]

Was I wrong? Did I take the bait? Is that exactly what they want for me?

[Kurt Metzger]

They did not want Whitney. The fact that you don't. You're like, I don't know about all this stuff, so that's damaging. It means regular people can notice something's wrong. Yeah, people don't follow the stuff. So no, it's it's actually like, I would get a food taster if I were you. And some kind of like, because it's so damaging to them. When a. When somebody who's not in the realm of talking about that just notices things that are true, like the emperor has no clothes kind of things, that's the most damage. You know, I didn't think I could like anything better than a Kathy Griffin trying to fake blow Anderson, him going, I think this is better.

[Whitney Cummings]

But I guess also if you're going to be a legitimate news organization, which, by the way, I'm flattered. Don't like me. I mean, if they did like me, that's probably when I would worry. Right. But it's. Why not do a piece going. Here's all the reasons Whitney said what she said. Here's the evidence for it. Why not just do it?

[Kurt Metzger]

Doesn't hold up. Because it's journalism.

[Whitney Cummings]

And prove me wrong. And did you see who wrote it? Jimmy? Did you see.

[Jimmy Dore]

No.

[Whitney Cummings]

Who it's written by? You have to look who it's written by. Go to the writer.

[Jimmy Dore]

Grace Harrington.

[Kurt Metzger]

Who is that?

[Whitney Cummings]

Look at her job.

[Jimmy Dore]

Breaking news, intern.

[Kurt Metzger]

They got their crack. Now, Whitney, keep in mind, she didn't make the headline. They never write that.

[Jimmy Dore]

So they have the editor. Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

CIA gives it to the editor, and they decide because nobody reads Daily Beast, especially people that subscribe to Daily Beast. They look at a headline that was algorithmically sent to their iPhone that they just see first. That's it.

[Whitney Cummings]

And they're using conspiracy theory because more people will get to it if they have the word conspiracy theory in it. But they also could have gone. Some people think there were conspiracy theories in Whitney's roast. Here's why they're not. But again, honestly, it's just. It is what it is. And I probably shouldn't have taken the bait to highlight that, but I think we're at a time where, you know, I'm not going to defend myself when people call me a whore. Unfuckable, whatever. Like, that's fine. Unfunny, fine. But when you accuse someone of being a conspiracy theorist, it's a pretty amazing way to discredit curious people that ask questions. I'm happy to be wrong. Like, please tell me if I'm wrong. I don't want to stay dumb. But to just call someone who's asking questions, conspiracy theory, I think that's a really big epidemic that's going on right now. Is this eye roll? If anyone design.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

Conspiracy theory.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's a. It's in the. It's in the first line of my Wikipedia page. They call me a conspiracy theorist. And then they go on to mention things that I was right about and. But they still call it conspiracies. Right? Like the fake gas attacks in Syria which we, the OPCW whistleblowers confirmed. My reporting on that. Everything I've ever said about COVID 100% correct. Everything about them. So they just said it really just.

[Whitney Cummings]

Should be synonymous with visionary at this point.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right?

[Whitney Cummings]

You're a visionary.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, there's that saying now that conspiracy is more like a spoiler alert. That's.

[Whitney Cummings]

I like that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. And so I'll hear just to let you know where that. Hey, that's their. Their flex at Daily Beast is to call anybody who goes against the establishment narrative a conspiracy theorist. Wacky. And well, here's RFK is going to tell you where they come from.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

There's a provision in the CIA charter that says that the CIA cannot propagandize the American people. President Obama adopted in 2016 that essentially reopened the door for Operation Mockingbird so that the CIA began once again to propagandize Americans.

[Kurt Metzger]

And how are they doing that?

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Presently high level intelligence officials are, or people associated with the intelligence industry are running those journals like Elish Blackman who runs Rolling Stone, who came from Daily Beast. Daily Bees was run by John Avalon who was, you know, has deep ties to the intelligence agencies.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there you go. Just wanted to let you know, don't feel bad.

[Whitney Cummings]

Something wild that I just remembered. So how do these people make all their money? I happen to know I'm just not going to say the person's name for a million reasons. That someone paid off the Daily Beast to not run a story that would have been a pretty wild takedown of someone in Hollywood paid them a ton of money to not run it.

[Kurt Metzger]

I already know who it is.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

I'm not saying either.

[Whitney Cummings]

Don't keep me involved. But a tremendous amount of money. So they go, okay, we'll take your money and we won't do good Journal. We'll take money to not do good journalism instead of actually, you know, so. And then the New York Times, I think didn't. I don't want to. They, they took a bunch of money to not publish something too. So money. And they actually are going to do a takedown on you some journalism that would be valuable if you just pay them off. You know, they'll take the money.

[Kurt Metzger]

So the court of public opinion is corrupt and you can pay off the jurors and the. The judge and everything.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm not gonna like dorks.

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm not saying any getting out of them. Sorry.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, I'm not going to say anything either. Because I would like to be in a Tom Hanks movie. And I'm not saying they say about Oprah, it's something.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, I don't know. Maybe. I mean, those like, you know, I don't know enough about a lot of that. Here's the thing, people with me, they're always like, you must have gone to the Diddy parties. And you must know snitches don't get invited. You know, Kurt, I ever tell you that I tried to get into Scientology and they didn't let me know?

[Kurt Metzger]

I know. Didn't you go, modi told me you had a Kabbalah meeting. And you go, I don't know what this is, but it looks too expensive for me.

[Whitney Cummings]

It was what I did. So I did that show Punked. When I first moved to LA 2003, I got after scale. I had like literally made $400 a month. And I. Ashton Kutcher was married to be more. I went, they invited me. And I'm sitting in the circle. It's like Cameron Diaz. And I just was like, I know I cannot afford whatever the fuck this is. A red string bracelet, can't afford it. But I did. When I first moved to la, a friend of mine was getting, like, courted for it, and they would basically go after people who were about to get really famous. Because, yes, that's a machine where if you were in a movie and you got this publicist and you got this manager, you were gonna be a star, was just working for you. And a friend of mine invites me to brunch with her. And she was just given an address by an actress who is a Scientologist known Helena Christensen. And we get there, we pull up to this castle. You know it, Kurt on Franklin. And I'm just moved to la. I'm like hillbilly white trash. And I wrote and I'm like, this is Holly. Because you go to Hollywood and you're like, this is a. Like, I came to Hollywood, baby. Like a glitz and that. There's like homeless people on the Walk of fame. I was like, I get to the Scientology castle, and I'm like, this is what I thought Hollywood was. I'm in. Whatever this is. Sign me up. I go to the brunch. There's this huge brunch. The guys from. From famous. Giovanni Ribisi is there. The guy from Lost Is there. I'm like, this is what I. Yes. How do I sign up my friends? Like, we got to get out of here. I was like, no, I live here now. I'll take the tests. I'll see the aliens. Whose dick do I need to stop? Danny Masterson can rate me. I'll say, I won't say no, or I'll say no, if that's what he wants.

[Kurt Metzger]

You put that in writing. That's not okay.

[Whitney Cummings]

And then we're not. Let me in. And because I have snitch energy. We're comics. We're not.

[Kurt Metzger]

They profile you. They. You got to show you Cool Diddy party. You're not really in a check. So you weren't going to be invited.

[Whitney Cummings]

To the cool part of that alcohol where you had to say what the elephant was in the living room. I can't keep secrets. I can't walk on eggshells. It's. And this is, you know, something that I was thinking about doing on the roast of going, like, this is like every. You know, like, there was always a house on the street that was the. That you saw the screaming and the fighting. And now every house is that. It feels like right. 25. Like, everyone is just. This is starting to break, and I think it's actually exciting. And what you guys do is a really big part of it.

[Jimmy Dore]

So did you. So what. How did. Did somebody say anything to you afterwards? How did the. The two hosts, Anderson and what you call it to re. Respond to you at the commercial break?

[Whitney Cummings]

I gotta give them props. Like, they. I think Anderson. I don't know him very well, but he also was. They drink, you know, So I did go on a little bit later, and we were in umbrellas, so I'm unclear how much they did here. I would throw stuff to them. I was, like, trying to kind of get reactions from them, but I was, like, plowing through it. Like, people. I'm on, like, Adderall or something, but I was like, I just got to blow through this as quickly as possible.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

I think I said Chuck Schumer instead of the Trump shooter. So people think I said, Chuck Schumer doesn't have any silverware in his house, and I'll catch fire.

[Kurt Metzger]

He can't touch it.

[Whitney Cummings]

That's a weird conspiracy theory is my guess. But I just went as quickly as possible. I was trying to just, like, I could sort of feel energy of them, you know?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

They didn't sign up for this. Right. I mean, before that, they were doing quizzes about Mudang, the Hippo. You know, they're talking about wicked like it was. It felt.

[Kurt Metzger]

They deserve it so much. It's great what you did. They deserve.

[Jimmy Dore]

They deserve it 100%. And by the way, the American people deserve to see someone say that on cnn. And so you performed a great service.

[Whitney Cummings]

And, like, go for it. Like, just say it. Like, I just got sick of being scared. I got exhausted about biting my tongue, and I just, like, again, even if I'm wrong, I'm like, why don't I throw something out there and I'll correct it later if I'm wrong. But I can't keep just being scared of this. Like, what even is it, like, good for you. That's not even a thing. I don't even know what's. I think the only thing scarier than censorship is self censorship.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well said.

[Whitney Cummings]

Like, I'm self censoring and I'm complaining about censorship, and it's all in here. You know, I kind of was like, how dare I complain about censorship if I'm the one censoring myself?

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, you know. You know, I. During COVID just to talk a little inside comedy, it broke my heart when we went back into the clubs and I would see comedians shame people for doing your own research, which means don't question authority, which is the exact opposite of doing comedy. If you're a comedian and you're telling people, don't do your own research, you're telling them not to read, because that's all doing your own research means is you're fucking reading. And it just broke my heart, and a lot of comedians let me down. And so it's just was so heartening to see you do what you did. And it was like me, me getting my faith back into comedy. And me, I get to cheer on a comedian standing up to the establishment. It really. Maybe I make too much out of it, but it means a lot.

[Kurt Metzger]

But people don't do it when they get in that situation. It's literally just what you should. Should do.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

Like, guess I don't think I most people.

[Whitney Cummings]

That's correct, Kurt. I don't think I should get points for it. And it's sad that I'm getting points for this, and it's sad that more people don't do it, but I know how that scary feeling it is and is. And I know how easy it is to not do it. It's so much easier.

[Kurt Metzger]

I wanted Jesel Neck to see it, that's all.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, he already said. He said if you talk about conspiracy theorists, you're just trying to get a new audience. It's like, yeah, why wouldn't. What.

[Kurt Metzger]

First of all, I'm always wanting to.

[Whitney Cummings]

Why not? People that question connect with comedy fans.

[Kurt Metzger]

Like, what if you also don't care if I alienate the ones I have now because I say what I want? If I just take who I get.

[Whitney Cummings]

If your fan base isn't changing, you're not growing as a comic.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, well, so put that on a T shirt and. Yeah, I, I love people. They. I get the criticism of. Oh, you're doing clickbait. No clickbait. I'm putting a headline on a video to try to catch people's attention. But when you click on that video, it's full of substance. Clickbait is when it's empty and there isn't anything in there.

[Whitney Cummings]

You know what? Yes, I am guilty as charged. I want people to click on this. Guilty as.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Whitney Cummings]

When a movie comes out, you're not like, you guys are putting posters up.

[Jimmy Dore]

You're poster baiting people.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah. You want people to.

[Kurt Metzger]

Want people to hear what you're saying.

[Whitney Cummings]

I do. I do. One. I do. Yeah. I don't want to yell in a basement like Mark Marin in a garage. Yeah. I want people to see what I'm doing. I do. By the way, to your do your own research thing. I started doing this little thing on TikTok that's like. Because you get kicked off Tick Tock.

[Jimmy Dore]

We just got kicked off yesterday. They canceled our Tick Tock channel yesterday. So there we're doing something.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, I, I have this, this 9 11. This guy talked, who was in the military talked about 9 11. And it was, it was taken down a couple times. It's on Twitter now. But I started doing this thing, doing my own research. And I was like, literally at the point where I. When I was in New York, I was feeding the pigeons. So I was like, drone or not drone, if they're eating, they're probably real. Eat all the birds around you to see if their cameras. That's how you do your own research. Real pigeon real.

[Kurt Metzger]

I wait for them to shit to know if they're real.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let me just, let me say this one. So the last time I got excited about a comedian on CNN was I was sick. I don't know what year it was. 2018 for New Year's. I had a flu, so I stayed home and I was watching. That's when Kathy Griffin was still on, I think. And she said to, she turns to Anderson and she said, do you have any New Year's resolutions? And he says, yeah, well, I guess I should, you know, spend more time in the gym and hit the treadmill. And she goes, that's really interesting. You know, most journalists would say, maybe I should learn a foreign language or learn about this culture. You're all about getting your abs. How does that make you a better? And it was like she didn't realize what she had done, but she really blew the roof off of what CNN really is. It's just pretty boys talking into a camera. He's not a real journalist. He's thinking about his abs. He's not thinking about becoming a better journalist. And I thought that was the best work she'd ever done on there. And this, this tops that. This was better.

[Whitney Cummings]

And honestly, I must say, like Anderson, because I was in this place of. I have nothing but respect for him. We come from very different places. You know, he's a Vanderbilt. I had a bunch of jokes about that. I was like, you know what, I don't need to go after Anderson here. But right before I went on, he said that his favorite book of the year or a book that he loved this year was the biography of Bill Gates. And I was like, no, no, are you kidding? I had to bite my tongue so hard. I wanted to be like, oh, did he, did he talk in the book at all about how bought apple cider vinegar? He bought Bragg's apple cider vinegar so that he could put his appeal schmegma, that apples into the apple cider vinegar. Like I, I had. Oh, God.

[Kurt Metzger]

Did he dish on Epstein island at all?

[Whitney Cummings]

Is there a chapter on that? I mean, it was like this guy, I, I have this theory. I know it's ridiculous, but the fact that, like, he didn't create apple. Steve Jobs did. Now he has to own, like, apples. Like, he's, that's his thing is apples. He, he puts a covering on a coating on apple. I'm like, it's just. He's obsessed. And then he bought apple cider vinegar. He can't stop.

[Jimmy Dore]

I just think it's amazing that when I hear people say like, like Bill Gates is some kind of do gooder instead of what he actually is, is he's a monopolist and a megalomaniac who wants to control everything.

[Whitney Cummings]

That's when he said we shouldn't plant trees.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

I don't even think a lizard would say that. I don't think he's a lizard person because lizards like trees.

[Jimmy Dore]

Are we, are we good? Are we the Sc. Not we. Yeah. The science says that you plant trees, it eats carbon. That's the whole point of that.

[Whitney Cummings]

But also, science is fashion. Science gets debunked every, like, five or six years. Remember when soy milk was good for us?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Whitney Cummings]

Now half of my girlfriend's tits got cut off and half my guy friends have tits. I mean, that was just a.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, that just sounds like a good economy. That is supply and demand.

[Whitney Cummings]

But I also, I did on my podcast this thing where I volunteered to jump on the grenade and then suck Bill Gates's dick and be his Lauren Sanchez so that he'll stop, like, making diseases.

[Kurt Metzger]

And that's not enough.

[Whitney Cummings]

I was like, he just need. Because Jeff Bezos kind of chilled once he started, like, getting someone, you know? And so I was like, I volunteer as tribute to be.

[Kurt Metzger]

You think you're the first to make that offer to Bill Gates?

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, really?

[Whitney Cummings]

He's probably not even.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, you know, dress up as an Epstein island.

[Kurt Metzger]

You understand?

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, yeah, that's right. I'm like 30 years too old.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. I mean, I try to tell people, you know, when the devil comes, he's not going to have horns and a pitchfork. He's going to be wearing glasses and a crew neck sweater, and that's what we're living. And they go, whoa, he's just trying to help people with vaccines. Okay. That's right.

[Whitney Cummings]

I knew this would happen. I knew. I called it. The world fell apart as soon as we stopped bullying the nerds.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's what Oppenheimer was about, how you got bullied.

[Whitney Cummings]

Lockers where they belonged. We were right.

[Kurt Metzger]

They can't understand human emotions, so they. They just get technocratic, real hardcore and they. And they have no. It's like the people who swat. That's the ultimate nerd mentality that you.

[Whitney Cummings]

Could swap someone thing. I know you. I. I'll go. You said something about earlier comics that came after comics, and they're, you know, to me, that's a special kind of snitch. That's a special kind of. Of nastiness. And Ari Shafir said something on Rogan once where he said, you know, Ari, of all people. Like, you know, we really saw who people were when he did that Kobe tweet and stuff like that. And he said, like comics, it's your job to hold the line. And that's really kind of the what I stick to. Whenever stuff like this happens, it is our job to hold the line. If you're not brave enough to be one of the ones in the front, that's totally fine, but, like, get out of our way if that's what we're doing.

[Kurt Metzger]

Why you want to stage if you're not brave enough? This is the whole thing. It's just the job. The job is to be the one that's not going with the thing and alone. Not an improv group. Not. Yes. And yeah, refusing, by the way.

[Whitney Cummings]

There's always going to be mediocre people in every job. There's always going to be the braver ones. Like, you wouldn't be you if they weren't them. Fine. I think that, like, there's obviously echelons within comedy and we don't even need to deal with the people that aren't brave enough to do what we do. I think it's just a matter of just get out of the way. And the ones that are holding the line, we got to all just kind of stick together. And, like, we're. We're the ones that get put up front. You know, the. The way that wolves move, like the wolf packs, you know, they put certain ones up, certain ones in the middle and one in the back. It's really fascinating the way that they move. So I just think that, like, you know, they serve a purpose too. The people at UCB need to laugh. You know, they got. Fine. You guys can have them go be the dorks. We don't even have to acknowledge the dorks. It's. It's.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, I'm just so. I just can't take it when I see comedians reinforcing the status quo instead of finding the hole and poking their finger through it. That's what they're supposed to do. You're not that. We have corporate media to prop up the establishment. I don't need you to do that. And I don't certainly. Yeah. And need you shitting it just, you know, a lot of it's had to do with Trump and it's. It just wrecked a lot of people. And, yeah, there's very little.

[Whitney Cummings]

The time I really broke it was a couple months ago because I was always like, let me stay out of politics. Jimmy does that, Kurt does that, Bill Maher does it. It's not my. I don't. I just don't want to speak on shit I'm not an expert on, but I am an expert on hypocrisy. So that's when I started being able to say something is when I posted about Tim Walls and the fact that I found out that he had gone to China.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Over 30 times. And I did a Whole section on it on my podcast, posted about it. I had to take it down. People were calling me racist. People were called. I did. I was like, why? You know, he did go with boys. I'm. I can make that joke.

[Kurt Metzger]

Racist.

[Whitney Cummings]

You know what I mean? Yeah. And he. So he went to. First of all, how does a teacher even afford to go 30 times to, why did he get fired? Why can no one answer any of these questions? And why am I a monster if I just ask them? And it's weird. And even if it's. He should at least be able to say yes. I went to China 30 times, so I am uniquely qualified to be able to fight our adversary China.

[Kurt Metzger]

Like, at least including his honeymoon. And him and his wife stayed in separate rooms down the hall from each other because they had uneven number of students, so they couldn't. Couldn't spend the night together on their honeymoon.

[Whitney Cummings]

Why am I in trouble? I'm not the one that went to China 30 times. You know how hard it is to go to China 30 times?

[Kurt Metzger]

Very hard.

[Whitney Cummings]

I mean, that's your. That's your full job.

[Kurt Metzger]

Not even Hunter, I think.

[Whitney Cummings]

So I got.

[Jimmy Dore]

So.

[Whitney Cummings]

And when I would ask people about it, they'd be like, yeah. And it was just like, you don't even want to ask this question. You don't even want to know the answer. That's scary to me.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's like, in spirit again. Conspiracies are things that happen before the crimes.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Once the crime's done, it's not a conspiracy. It's done.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

So, like, I've been to China 24 hours. I was good. I was like, we're good. I went for 24 hours, and that was nothing to do. What do we do? At least make it your strength and go, I've been. I know how to deal with them. They're doing a lot of shit. Here's who you can trust, and here's who you can't trust. Like, it just felt really odd to me because if he had done that, I'd be like, I'm listening. I'm listening. If someone's like, I understand our number one adversary inside and out, and I'm gonna bring production back to America on this and this and this. This is how they get us. They've got bot farms, whatever it is. But he just pretended like it wasn't.

[Kurt Metzger]

Happening, because guess what? They're not our adversary. We. They make our shoes and viruses and phones. I don't know why they're calling them our adversary military. We're Back over there making more viruses. Yeah, apparently we're cool with them, but they keep pushing this idea that there's a war because there's no such thing as borders, just companies and alliances and what have you.

[Jimmy Dore]

They have to find a reason to. To keep funneling money upward into the military industrial complex and send. Now they're sending money and stuff to Taiwan to fight against China. It's just the same thing with Ukraine. Same thing with Iraq, Syria, Libya. It's the same story over and over. And people, they keep falling for it left and right. It's just amazing to me. But, Whitney, you know more about this than me.

[Whitney Cummings]

But nothing sent chills down my spine like Michael Cena apologizing.

[Kurt Metzger]

For what?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, in.

[Whitney Cummings]

Because he acknowledged that Taiwan existed.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, yeah. John Cena. Not Michael.

[Whitney Cummings]

John Cena. What did I say?

[Jimmy Dore]

Michael.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, sorry.

[Whitney Cummings]

Hollywood. 24 hours ago. I don't know anything.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, we does a lot of business there.

[Whitney Cummings]

Wild. Anyway, you guys are the best. Let me not get in the way of your awesome show.

[Jimmy Dore]

I really appreciate you coming on. Thanks. It's great to have fun down at the mothership and I hope.

[Whitney Cummings]

Kurt, I better see you while I'm here.

[Kurt Metzger]

I have a spot tonight, so I have to go by. I'm there.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay.

[Whitney Cummings]

All right. I'm just. I'm at the condo.

[Jimmy Dore]

All right, everybody, what's your. What's your website? Whitney Cummings dot com.

[Whitney Cummings]

What did I just give my location? Like a maniac.

[Jimmy Dore]

Nobody. Nobody knows where the condo is.

[Whitney Cummings]

Just Whitney Cummings dot com.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, Whitney Cummings dot com.

[Whitney Cummings]

Love you guys.

[Jimmy Dore]

Love you. Thank you so much. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week, and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy door comedy.com Clicking on join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business, and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. I don't know if you saw this. Stephen Colbert cuts off Claire Danes before she. Now, this is, I think from 2018, when Trump was president. President.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, this is way before that. I told you my friend who used to be the editor over at Daily Beast in Jezebel and whatnot. She told me right when Obama was going out. She'd been invited to the White House. Okay. All these young reporters, they were invited some White House thing. And Obama told them, hey, I'm really worried that Trump is compromised by Russia. I just want to tell you. So I didn't think anything of it at the time. I go, whatever. Now I see what it is. So they've been entrenching themselves, and that's what Claire Danes is speaking about.

[Jimmy Dore]

So this is. So Claire Danes was on with Stephen Colbert when Trump was president, and she talks about the intelligence community, meaning the CIA, allying itself with legacy media during Trump's first term. Watch Stephen Colbert. Now, we all know that he's the tool of all tools.

[Kurt Metzger]

You know, he's an asset to this degree.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, he's an asset. I didn't know he was an asset to this degree.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. I should put together with the. Jon Stewart cut off. Whoopi's trained to fart over a point, and he just stops it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Watch this.

[Stephen Colbert]

Okay, so now one of the things that you do. Do you do this every season where you go get to spend some time with some actual spies?

[Whitney Cummings]

We do.

[Claire Danes]

It's like the Cool.

[Jimmy Dore]

So they. So they. They. They go to spend a whole week with CIA spies?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

What? Why would you. What?

[Former CIA Official]

That's part of my channel.

[Stephen Colbert]

It's like a Marvel movie sets that up. Okay, so now one of the things that you do. Do you do this every season where you go get to spend some time with some actual spies?

[Claire Danes]

Oh, we do. It's like the coolest part of my job.

[Jimmy Dore]

Who sets that up?

[Stephen Colbert]

Who calls the CIA and goes, we just like to come in and hang out with you guys?

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[Claire Danes]

So Henry Burmell, who is one of our founding fathers of Homeland, one of our writers, passed away a number of years ago, but his dad was in.

[Jimmy Dore]

The c. As if Stephen Colbert doesn't have a CIA handler and as if he doesn't know that there are CIA embedded all through Hollywood. As if he doesn't know this. Who. How do you set. How do you set that up? How do you get a hold of the CIA? No, they've already gotten a hold of them.

[Kurt Metzger]

They downloaded the information right in Steven's throat before the show.

[Whitney Cummings]

CIA.

[Claire Danes]

And his cousin was a mentee of his father's and was also in the CIA. Very accomplished.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's weird.

[Kurt Metzger]

That is. Okay. The enormity of what she just said.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right. It's one long CIA.

[Kurt Metzger]

That means that this is one of the worst. Oh, my God. That's really bad.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

So I didn't notice that the first.

[Claire Danes]

Time was a mentee of his father's and was also in the CIA. A very accomplished person there and he recently retired but in his retirement he curates this week long spy camp for us producers and writers and the producers.

[Jimmy Dore]

And writers of the Homeland show at the Bevin. These guys who were CIA their whole life, they think they bring us to spy camp.

[Kurt Metzger]

He's a.

[Jimmy Dore]

What could possibly be the nefarious reason for them to do that? It's just for shits and giggles.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well Jimmy, that's generational CIA. So that means he was. He's the mentee of people who were doing the original MKUltra.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

That means he was trained by the original evil fuckers they pretend aren't what they are now.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right. Watch this.

[Stephen Colbert]

Really?

[Claire Danes]

Yeah.

[Stephen Colbert]

Is it like, you know.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Claire Danes]

So we park ourselves in a club in Georgetown and talk to like, like real spooks and you know, people in the intelligence community.

[Jimmy Dore]

I, I just love watching Stephen Colbert pretending that to be interested in what it's like to be hanging out with CIA agents when that's all he does as soon as the show is over.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. He gets, he put the cool story.

[Jimmy Dore]

Really. What, what is this all about now? CIA after the show.

[Kurt Metzger]

They.

[Claire Danes]

Real spooks and you know, people in the intelligence community and the State Department and journalists and people who really.

[Stephen Colbert]

What do they tell you that like what's the most surprising?

[Jimmy Dore]

Journalists, State department people, CIA spooks.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

And writers for television shows, producers for television shows. They all come together. Isn't that weird?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. So you know when like conspiracy or UFO nuts they'll say they disclose stuff in fiction. I don't think it's that they're disclosing stuff, they're feeding stuff into the fiction for predictive programming meaning getting you primed for the stuff that they want to do. So yes, watch like that's an example that stupid Marvel Black Panther movie with the good guy CIA agent who just wants to help this African country join the world stage. There's the underlying propaganda in that and that's the prime you to think it's good when these absolute depraved satanic go steal shit from other countries.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let's watch thing that they've told.

[Stephen Colbert]

You about their jobs or something you would need to know for.

[Claire Danes]

Well, every year it's different, Right. We've been at it for a while and the climate has been. Has changed. But this year it was all about, you know, the distrust between the administration and the intelligence world and the intelligence community was suddenly kind of allying itself with journalists, which usually they're.

[Jimmy Dore]

Whoa. The intelligence community. She's now letting the cat out of the bag. And Stephen Colbert panics. He panics. He's panic. He's panicking because he's been told not to let that out. That's. And he uses a technique called whoopi farting.

[Kurt Metzger]

I think that he's been put in the awkward position of being a handler and he's a program puppet himself. So it's awkward for him to have to be the handler. Handler for this other puppet. I bet you. Both of them. I'll bet. Good dogecoin.

[Jimmy Dore]

Let's, let's, let's go ahead. What? Both of them, what?

[Kurt Metzger]

They have taser scars from the program somewhere in their body.

[Jimmy Dore]

So this could not be. This should be a huge story. Should have been a huge story when it happened. I just saw it on Twitter the other day. This is. This should. This should make your hair stand on end.

[Claire Danes]

And the intelligence world and. And the intelligence community was suddenly kind of allying itself with journalists, which usually.

[Stephen Colbert]

They'Re not shooting this.

[Kurt Metzger]

Look how long.

[Jimmy Dore]

She goes. Oh, she goes. The intelligence community started allying itself with journalists. How long? If, how long. When did you start shooting this? Stop talk. That is unbelievable.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, she's punished hard for that.

[Jimmy Dore]

And watch. Yes, he watch and watch. Watch his body language. I want you to watch his body language. Watch his body language.

[Whitney Cummings]

Usually they're.

[Stephen Colbert]

How long ago did you start shooting this? This season?

[Jimmy Dore]

How long ago did you start shooting this? Dude. Why is this. Huh? Huh? You see that? How long ago?

[Kurt Metzger]

This is worse than Jon Stewart saying the virus is made in a lab, which.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. You remember when Jon Stewart said the. Yeah. He had to stop that.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Look at this, the first one here, let me play it without interruption. Let's watch the whole thing.

[Stephen Colbert]

So now one of the things that you do. Do you do this every season where you go get to spend some time with some actual spies?

[Whitney Cummings]

We do.

[Claire Danes]

It's like the coolest part of my job.

[Jimmy Dore]

Who sets that up?

[Stephen Colbert]

Who calls the CIA and goes, we just like to come in and hang out with you guys?

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[Claire Danes]

So Henry, Henry Burmell, who is one of our founding fathers of Homeland, one of our writers passed away a number of years ago, but his dad was in the CIA and his cousin was a mentee of his father's and was also in the CIA. A very accomplished person there. And he recently retired. But in his retirement, he curates this week long spy camp for us Producers and writers.

[Stephen Colbert]

Really?

[Claire Danes]

Yeah.

[Stephen Colbert]

Is it like, you know.

[Claire Danes]

Yeah. So we park ourselves in a club in Georgetown and talk to, like, real spooks and, you know, people in the intelligence community and the State Department and journalists and people who really.

[Stephen Colbert]

What do they tell you that, like, what's the most surprising thing that they've told you about their jobs or something you would need to know?

[Claire Danes]

Well, every year it's different. Right. We've been at it for a while and the climate has been. Has changed. But this year it was all about.

[Jimmy Dore]

The climate has changed, meaning Trump's president. It.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, not the client. It's not climate change.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Claire Danes]

You know, the distrust between the administration and the intelligence world and, and the intelligence community was suddenly kind of allying itself with journalists, which usually they're.

[Stephen Colbert]

Start shooting this. This season.

[Kurt Metzger]

I'm sorry.

[Jimmy Dore]

So she says there's a distrust between the administration and the intelligence community, meaning the intelligence community's boss, the civilian elected leader of the military and the intelligence community, the civilian control that we're. It's in our constitution. That's the part that there's a distrust between the people. The, the, the people that have been elected by the electorate, the, the citizens of the United States to run the intelligence community and run the military. There's a distrust.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Between them. And now the people who, the people who are elected by the civilians to run it are now. The people they don't trust are now allying with journalists. And he's like, oh, stop. Whoa.

[Kurt Metzger]

Even this dipshit could see how bad that sounds.

[Jimmy Dore]

Look at that. Look at that. Look. Look at that. Look.

[Kurt Metzger]

Look at her.

[Jimmy Dore]

And look at her brain.

[Kurt Metzger]

Look at her blurting out the secret with. With that look, like a malfunctioning piece of equipment, which is what she is.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's Stephen Colbert trying to stop An Inconvenient Truth that just popped up on his show. And he's doing a whoopi. He's doing a Whoopi fart and waving his hand around.

[Kurt Metzger]

Project Whoopi Fart, in effect.

[Jimmy Dore]

It AC caught this. You can see his body language immediately shift to, oh, yeah, yeah, I love.

[Kurt Metzger]

Her body language of just a dingbat blathering nonsense. Well, a thing that they didn't program her to keep a secret. Look at her face. And then the CIA went and took over journalism.

[Jimmy Dore]

So just so you know, what they're revealing here is that the President is not in charge.

[Kurt Metzger]

That means you're not in charge and your vote don't count.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's what all that means. That The President is not in charge. And that the people who run our intelligence community and our military, they're the ones deciding what to do. And they get in bed with the media, the journalists, the TV shows, entertainment.

[Kurt Metzger]

Hollywood community is a wrong word for them. They're a coven. The intelligence coven.

[Jimmy Dore]

The Intelligence covenant.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yes.

[Jimmy Dore]

And here, thanks to our friend James Lee, he has. How does this happen? How is the intelligence community legally allowed to propagandize Americans? Bobby Kennedy's gonna let you know there's.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

A provision in the CIA charter that says that the CIA cannot propagandize the American people. President Obama adopted in 2016 team that essentially reopened the door for Operation Mockingbird so that the CIA began once again to propagandize Americans.

[Kurt Metzger]

And how are they doing that, President?

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

High level intelligence officials are or people associated with the intelligence industry are running those journals like Melissa Schlackman who runs Rolling Stone, who came from Daily Beast. Daily Beast was run by John Hamilton, who was, you know, has deep ties to the intelligence agencies. But even journals like Smithsonian and Smithsonian and National Geographic, Nature, the Washington Post, the New York Times appear to be compromised by the CIA. We know from the Twitter files at both the FEI and CIA were operating portals within the Twitter and Facebook that allowed them to manipulate information and to deplatform people and to, you know, silence certain people that they didn't like in the social media. Operation Mockingbird was an operation to compromise American journalists. There were some 400 editors, journalists from, you know, all the largest publications. The New York Times have been compromised. The Washington Post was.

[Jimmy Dore]

What do you mean by compromised for people who.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

Well, they were functioning. The high level people at those, at those journals were actually were working for the agency or had, you know, signed secrecy agreements with the CIA and at CBS, ABC, NBC. After 75, when it all came out during the Church committee hearings, the CIA promised that it would no longer compromise American journalists. It continued the program to compromise journalists.

[Kurt Metzger]

All over the world.

[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]

And today the CIA is the biggest funder of journalism in the world. And how about present day fund it through usaid? In that little twilight zone before I fall asleep every night I'm thinking about what I'm going to do do in the first weeks when I get into office about fixing these agencies one at a time. You know, that's something I'm excited about. If you like this video and you want.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here I first saw this. Max Blumenthal tweeted this out, what this is a CIA agent letting you know exactly how they manipulate journalists.

[Former CIA Official]

Another thing is to disseminate propaganda to influence people's minds. And this is a major function of the CIA. And unfortunately, of course, it overlaps into the gathering of information. You have contact with a journalist, you will give him true stories. You'll get information from him. You'll also give him false stories. Did you buy his confidence with true stories? You buy his confidence and set him up. We've seen this happen recently with Jack Anderson, for example, who has his intelligent sources. And he has also admitted that he's been set up by them. Every fifth story just simply being false. You also work on their human vulnerabilities to recruit them in a classic sense, make them your agent so that you can control what they do so you don't have to set them up, sort of, you know, by putting one over on them. So you can say, here, plant this one next Tuesday.

[Whitney Cummings]

Can you do this with responsible reporters? Yes.

[Former CIA Official]

The church committee brought it out in 1975. And then Woodward and Bernstein put an article in Rolling Stone a couple of years later. 400 journalists cooperating with the CIA, including some of the biggest names in the business, to consciously introduce the stories into the press.

[Kurt Metzger]

Walter Cronkite, definitely, because he's the Bohemian Grove narrator at their weird ceremony.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, really?

[Kurt Metzger]

All your faves are industry plants? By industry, I mean military industry.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here's one more. David Summers says, this makes me wonder how much Colbert himself was directly involved in coordinating these psyops. I remember when him, Seth Meyers, Trevor Noah, and John Oliver repeated almost verbatim Nancy Pelosi's talking points about the border crisis being caused by Trump all on the same night. Yeah, yeah. Stephen Colbert is not so much James Bond as he is more Bonds medicated foot powder because. Because now he's on the run. Okay, all right. Oh, that was quite. I was quite. I. I can't. I. I don't think I'll ever get over this. This picture.

[Kurt Metzger]

I mean, Colbert is blown away looking at her speak, and I love it. Look at her mid blurt. Look at her face.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

Your country's fake, everybody. Just so you know, immediately she starts.

[Jimmy Dore]

She starts to tell him that the CIA is working with journalists, and all of a sudden he's like, hey, when did you start shooting?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, what did you.

[Jimmy Dore]

What did. By. Wait, let me. Let's totally get off.

[Kurt Metzger]

Completely get off this topic while my.

[Whitney Cummings]

Can I.

[Jimmy Dore]

Audience step wants to see it one more time.

[Stephen Colbert]

Okay, so now one of the things that you do. Do you do this every season where you go get to spend some time with some actual Spies.

[Claire Danes]

Oh, we do. It's like the coolest part of my job.

[Jimmy Dore]

Who sets that up?

[Stephen Colbert]

Who calls the CIA and goes, we just like to come in and hang out with you guys?

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[Claire Danes]

So Henry Burmell, who is one of our founding fathers of Homeland, one of our writers, passed away a number of years ago, but his dad was in the CIA and his cousin was a mentee of his father's and was also in the CIA. A very accomplished person there. And he recently retired. But end his retirement, he curated this week long spy camp for us producers and writers and.

[Stephen Colbert]

Really?

[Claire Danes]

Yeah.

[Stephen Colbert]

Is it like, you know.

[Claire Danes]

Yeah. So we park ourselves in a club in Georgetown and talk to like real spooks and, you know, people in the intelligence community and the State Department and journalists and people who really.

[Stephen Colbert]

What do they tell you that, like, what's the most surprising thing that they've told you about their jobs or something you would need to know for.

[Claire Danes]

Every year it's different. Right. We've been at it for a while and, and the climate has been, has changed. But this year it was all about, you know, the distrust between the administration and, and the intelligence world and. And the intelligence community was suddenly kind of allying itself with journalists, which usually.

[Stephen Colbert]

They'Re start shooting this this season.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow. Suddenly they started allying them. Allying themselves with journalists, which previously they have not.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, that story I'll never forget now because she said Obama said that. And I was like, oh, that's cool. You got to be. Obama didn't put together anything at the time. Then I realized what Obama's doing with this young crop of impressionable millennials. Daddy said he's worried about Russia, so they're. Don't worry, Obama, we wish you were still the president. We'll just do you. Don't even let him in on the plan. Oh, my buddy Aaron the lobbyist has told me Claire Danes is Yale, which is a major CIA recruiting camp campus. So let me tell you what that says to me. She's a definite monarch mind control person. Yale, CIA, 100%. Colbert's there in a handler capacity right now. So you're looking at a freeze frame of Project Monarch falling apart in front of your very eyes. Yeah. All right, we're gonna start popping off more of these.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, become a premium member. Go to jimmy door comedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be, and I'll keep being me.

[Whitney Cummings]

Freak out, don't freak out.

[Jimmy Dore]

Don't freak out don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Do not freak out.

[Kurt Metzger]

I'm not kidding.

[Jimmy Dore]

Do not freak out, Freak out, Freak out, Freak out.