Eyewitnesses PROVE Case Against Tyler Robinson Is A COMPLETE SHAM! w/ Adam Clark

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Jimmy Dore Show

Episode: Eyewitnesses PROVE Case Against Tyler Robinson Is A COMPLETE SHAM! w/ Adam Clark
Date: July 15, 2026
Host: Jimmy Dore (guest-hosted by Misty Winston)
Guests: Adam Clark (Ruckus), Kyle Anzlone

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into two major themes:

1. The Tyler Robinson Case:
   Misty Winston and guest Adam Clark examine new eyewitness testimony that potentially exonerates Tyler Robinson in his high-profile case, highlighting glaring failures by both the prosecution and defense—particularly the defense’s negligence in following up on crucial alibi evidence.

2. Lindsey Graham’s Legacy:
   The show shifts in its second half to discuss the recent death of Senator Lindsey Graham, unapologetically dissecting his career as a war hawk, playing a series of damning clips, and reading Caitlin Johnstone’s celebratory obituary.

Bonus: The episode tacks on an informed discussion about Iran’s nuclear situation, U.S. foreign policy, and pervasive media propaganda, with analysis from foreign policy expert Kyle Anzlone.

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1. The Tyler Robinson Case: Eyewitness Alibi Evidence Ignored

Key Discussion Points & Insights

A. Eyewitness and Timeline Details

• Eyewitnesses at Cowboy's Smokehouse:
  Diligent Denizen (an investigator on the scene) interviewed two staff members at the restaurant in Panguitch, Utah, who:

  • 100% positively identified Tyler Robinson present around 9–10 pm the night in question.
    • "Yes. That was his voice. Yes. That's his face. Yes. That's what he was wearing. It's unquestionable." (Adam Clark, 02:07)
  • Provided information and credit card receipts to the FBI but never heard back.

• Timeline Contradictions:

  • Tyler was seen in Panguitch around 10 pm—a 3-hour drive from the crime scene in Orem—making it nearly impossible for him to return in time for the alleged incriminating actions.
    • “If he was spotted there at 9 o’clock and it’s three hours away, that’s midnight. […] Now we’re finding out it was closer to 10pm […] nearly impossible for him to be back until about 12:30 or later.” (Adam Clark, 02:07)
  • Raises doubt about whether he could have sent incriminating text messages from Orem.

B. Law Enforcement and Legal Malpractice

• Negligence from Authorities:

  • FBI and local law enforcement were reportedly uninterested or dismissive about evidence supporting Tyler's alibi.
    • “They contacted the FBI with that information, but they were wholly unsatisfied with the FBI's response. […] Neither the prosecution nor the defense has contacted the restaurant or staff.” (Adam Clark, 02:07–03:29)

• Defense Failures:

  • Neither prosecution nor defense contacted pivotal alibi witnesses or the restaurant, raising either incompetence or possible corruption.
    • “His defense, bro, not contacting this restaurant—why are they not asking for the credit card receipt, security cameras? It’s wild to me.” (Misty, 03:29)
    • “It does not look good for his defense. It’s almost like they've been compromised or something, or at the very least, they're incompetent.” (Adam Clark, 04:51)

• Eyewitness Testimony Reliability:

  • Misty underscores the limits of eyewitness reliability—while the evidence should be checked, “eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable. […] But if you are a defense team […] you at least need to look into it.” (Misty, 09:31)

C. Systemic Issues and Critical Questions

• Culture of Ignoring Exculpatory Evidence:

  • Both express skepticism toward the justice system, noting how often authorities ignore evidence inconvenient to prosecution.
    • “Cops do this all the time. Prosecutions do this all the time. They will ignore evidence that makes their job harder.” (Misty, 03:29)

• Bigger Picture:

  • The situation is emblematic of a justice system that prioritizes convictions over truth.
  • Misty: “Even if you think that he's guilty, this should be suspect to you.” (05:08)

D. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the evidence being ignored:
  “There's no reason the defense team has not gone in person to Panguitch, Utah and interviewed these people and collected all evidence they can possibly get. None. There's no reason.” (Adam Clark, 06:41)
• On official inaction:
  “No one's reached out to you whatsoever, even though you saw him that night?” (Adam Clark interviewing employee, 14:52)
  • “No. No one's reached out regarding anything to do with Tyler Robinson.” (Cowboys Smokehouse Employee, 14:55)

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Important Segment Timestamps:

• [01:50] Adam Clark breaks down the eyewitness timeline, FBI indifference, and the legal teams’ failure.
• [08:05] Interview with Cowboys Smokehouse employee, 100% positive ID of Tyler, and shock at law enforcement’s lack of response.
• [09:31] Misty’s caution about eyewitness memory, and the importance of vetting this alibi regardless.
• [13:39–15:57] Waitstaff describe reporting to authorities and being ignored by both defense and prosecution.

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2. Lindsey Graham’s Death: Honest Reflections on a War Hawk

Key Discussion Points & Insights:

A. No Whitewashing Lindsey Graham’s Legacy

• Misty and Adam refuse to engage in the usual political pearl-clutching over the death of Graham, confronting head-on his decades of unapologetic warmongering.
  • “Lindsey Graham sucked. He was a terrible human being—genuinely. That is just the reality of it.” (Misty, 21:37)

B. Damning Audio Clips and Commentary

• The hosts play and lampoon chilling soundbites of Graham bragging about US-backed violence, his unwavering support for Israel, and threats against Russia.

  • “The Russians are dying. It's the best money we've ever spent.” (Lindsey Graham (impersonation), 24:52)
  • “They will fight to the last Ukrainian.” (Lindsey Graham, 25:36)
  • “I'm with Israel. I will be with Israel to our dying day.” (Lindsey Graham, 26:39)
  • “We’re going to blow the hell out of these people.” (Lindsey Graham, 31:24)
  • “Trump is my favorite president. We’ve run out of bombs.” (Lindsey Graham, 33:38)

• Misty’s honest assessment:
  “If people like this mourn your death, just know I am celebrating it. When Ben Gvir is mourning your death, you’re probably on the wrong side of a few issues.” (Misty, 45:02)

C. Caitlin Johnstone’s Blistering Obituary (Read Aloud)

• The hosts read Johnstone’s viral, brutally honest obituary, calling Graham a “war slut” and decrying calls to avoid ‘speaking ill of the dead’:
  • “Graham's sexual attraction to men a lot less interesting than his sexual attraction to acts of mass military slaughter. […] Lindsey Graham is dead, and it is good that he is dead.” (Caitlin Johnstone, 41:55–45:02)

D. Notable Quotes

• “He was a raging psychopath. And this is, again, I'm just showing you, like this is the people that they are asking you now to praise as he was a good person.” (Misty, 32:01)
• “If I would have said this to his face if he were alive, I'm not going to just pretend he was somebody he wasn't because he died.” (Misty, 33:27)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [21:37] Graham’s death announcement; Misty and Adam frame the discussion on honest legacy.
• [24:48–36:33] Montage of Lindsey Graham's most infamous war-hawk clips and razor-sharp commentary.
• [41:55–45:02] Caitlin Johnstone obituary, “Lindsey Graham is dead, and it is good that he is dead.”

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3. Foreign Policy and Iran: Propaganda and Realpolitik

Key Discussion Points & Insights:

A. Mainstream Media’s Iran Scare

• CNN report alleges Iran is rebuilding nuclear facilities, hinting at secret weapons programs.

  • “Boomer slop Iran war propaganda.” (Kyle Anzlone, 48:38)
  • “[The] activity in nuclear sites in particular raises questions as to whether Iran violated the Memorandum of Understanding it signed with the US…” (CNN Reporter, 46:50)

• Kyle’s analysis:

  • These are normal repairs of known, inspected sites.
  • “They’re misinterpreting the Memorandum of Understanding. What CNN is trying to say is what Iran agreed to is not to do any work on their nuclear facilities. But Iran agreed not to make a bomb, not to repair a roof.” (Kyle, 48:38)

B. U.S. Diplomacy and Escalation

• The US fundamentally misunderstands and worsens its position by breaking agreements, belligerence, and public chest-beating.

  • “Trump is going to negotiate on whatever terms he wants to anyway. And so it’s really the Americans that are agreeing to something and then not following through with their commitments.” (Kyle, 55:31)
  • “He threw everything the US military had against, and after 12 weeks of intensive fighting, what we found out is Iran is producing missiles faster than the US could produce interceptors.” (Kyle, 55:31)

• Misty calls out the dark absurdity of Trump’s rhetoric:

  • “That coming from him is endlessly entertaining. Everything he just said about them is true for himself.” (Misty, 55:17)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [46:50] CNN’s Iran propaganda segment.
• [48:38–54:08] Kyle Anzlone’s breakdown of the propaganda and real state of Iran and US negotiations.
• [54:24] Trump’s ranting about Iran as “scum”; Misty and Kyle’s darkly humorous take.
• [55:31] Analysis of why the US is at a strategic disadvantage.

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4. Overarching Themes and Takeaways

• Question Everything:
  The thread running through each topic is skepticism toward official narratives and the critical need for independent investigation, solidarity, and media literacy.

  • “We want real evidence, not a narrative.” (Adam Clark, 16:03)
  • “Stay skeptical, question everything. Don't buy anything, don't believe anything.” (Misty, 18:21)

• Caveat Emptor—About “Truth”:
  The digital age means even “objective” facts and official statements are subject to distortion, manipulation, and outright falsehood.

  • “We do not know if what we are seeing with our own eyes is real. And that's a very scary proposition.” (Misty, 17:02)

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Final Thoughts

This episode embodies The Jimmy Dore Show’s signature irreverence and criticality—whether calling out gross injustice in the legal system, the sanitized legacy of powerful war criminals, or the bald propaganda of mainstream media.
It’s a bracing reminder: distrust authority, ask uncomfortable questions, and never settle for surface-level narratives—no matter whom you might offend.

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Notable Quotes (with timestamps)

• “There's no reason the defense team has not gone in person to Panguitch, Utah and interviewed these people and collected all evidence they can possibly get.” (Adam Clark, 06:41)
• “Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable. […] But if you are defense, you at least need to look into it.” (Misty Winston, 09:31)
• “Lindsey Graham is dead, and it is good that he is dead.” (Caitlin Johnstone, 41:55)
• “Trump is my favorite president. We've run out of bombs.” (Lindsey Graham, 33:38, as imitated)
• “Stay skeptical, question everything. Don't buy anything, don't believe anything.” (Misty Winston, 18:21)

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Mike McRae]

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[Kyle Anzlone]

Establishment media sucks.

[Misty Winston]

August Light and so good luck.

[Kyle Anzlone]

Bullshit we can't afford. Why commenting this? Watch and see as his jack off the medium speeds and jumps the medium

[Misty Winston]

and hits some head. Hey everybody. Welcome to the Jimmy Dore Show. I am your guest host, Misty Winston, who is known for leaving herself muted. That is my red flag. Okay, so we are joined today by my pal Adam Clark. Adam is a good friend of mine. He used to be my news editor over at TNT radio. So we work together every day for a long time. It's been a while since we've done anything, so I'm very excited to have him here. Okay, Adam, we have a kind of a lengthy video we're going to. And this is from Baron Coleman and it's discussing the Charlie Kirk trial thing that is going on. There's a lot of drama that's happening in that obviously. So we're gonna. He is discussing a certain aspect of the trial, of the evidence that's being presented and why there are some issues. It is a very long video and this is just. I mean we even tried to cut it down. We're not going to play it all. Um, I'll play a little bit and then we'll kind of discuss, you know, what we think about it. But it is very interesting. So I definitely recommend go watch the full thing for yourself in entirety. I think that's important. Just go watch the whole thing. There's a lot of things that he goes over in detail that we're not going to be able to get into here. But let's just dive right in and I'll kind of stop and go if we have some things to say about it.

[Adam Clark]

There's a guy on X named Diligent Den. Diligent Denizen. I'm gonna show you his post here. Diligence Denizen spent the week on the ground in Utah. There was a rumor that Tyler Robinson had gone to Panguitch, Utah about three hours from Orem. About a little under three hours, maybe 255 from Orem. And that he was spotted there after 9 o'.

[Interjector (possibly Misty or Adam)]

Clock.

[Adam Clark]

Well, if you do a little math, if he spotted there at 9 o' clock and it's three hours away, that's midnight. We'll look at the text messages and say if he was in Orem. Could he have sent these text messages? So just bear with me. We'll get there. But now we're finding out it was closer to 10pm that he was there, which would make it nearly impossible for him to be back until about 12:30 or later. And again, we'll look at the text messages, the alleged text messages between Tyler Robinson, Lance Twigs and ask you, is it even possible? Is it even possible? Diligent Denison was on the ground and interviewed the staff at cowboys smokehouse. These were the people who served Tyler Robinson, who took his credit card payment, who checked him out at the end of the night. Two of the witnesses, 100% positively ID Tyler. Yes. That was his voice. Yes. That's his face. Yes. That's what he was wearing. It's unquestionable. There's no doubt. Here's the credit card that he gave us, you know, or he gave us a credit card. He paid, he checked out. Maybe it was a debit card. And they. They contacted the FBI with that information, but they were wholly unsatisfied with the FBI's response. It was really just kind of a, oh, you heard he was a penguin witch. Okay, we'll follow up. We need anything. And then they kind of got off the phone, and so they reached out to Candace. Candace broke this news months ago. They reached out to Candace and said, hey, this guy was here. And the FBI doesn't seem very encouraged to look into it. Now, neither the prosecution nor the defense has contacted the restaurant. They've not contacted the owner. They've not contacted the wait staff. They've not contacted the individuals who spotted Tyler. And that gives me deep, deep concerns for Tyler Robinson's defense. I did not know this. I did not know this. I evaluated last week's hearing believing the defense was giving him the best defense possible.

[Misty Winston]

Okay, So I want to talk about that aspect of it, because that is. That's the crazy part. I'm not at all surprised that the cops aren't looking into this. Obviously, I'm not surprised that the prosecution is not looking into this. The fact that his defense hasn't contacted this restaurant and spoken to any of these staff members is wild. That's crazy work. And I'm assuming that they have been informed of this, I would guess. I'm sure that. I know that they said that they contacted the FBI. I would hope that they'd also contacted his defense team. But I'm not like, listen, cops do this all the time. Prosecutions do this all the time. They will ignore Evidence that makes their job harder. And if they want to prosecute this kid and they want to convict this kid, they'll ignore evidence that might make that more difficult. Absolutely. They do it all the time. They do it all the time. All the time. All the time. I'm a true crime nerd. They do it all the time. So that is not in any way surprising to me, Adam. But his defense, bro, his defense, not contacting this restaurant, in at least talking to this. These people, at least. Why are they not asking for the credit card receipt? Why are they not asking? Are there security cameras where you can see that he is in this restaurant this time? It's wild to me, dude, what do you. I mean, what is happening?

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

It does not look good for his defense. I mean, it's almost like they've been compromised or something. Or in the very least, they're incompetent. So pick one. Either they're incompetent or they've been compromised. But either way, that's not a good sign for the. This dude. Mr. Tyler Robinson here. Yeah.

[Misty Winston]

No, and again, I don't even care what you think of. Is he guilty? Is he not? I feel like I don't. I don't believe the official story, obviously. I don't know why anyone does, but it doesn't matter. Even if you think that he's guilty, this should be suspect to you. The idea that they are not even attempting to look into the story. And listen, there's going to be times, and there always is, especially with high profile cases where people will try to insert themselves in order to achieve some 15 minutes of fame or whatever. And we see it happen all of the time. It happens in again, especially in the high profile cases. I can remember that there, the Chris Watts murder, murder case. There was a gay man who inserted himself and tried to claim that he had an affair with Chris Watts who murdered his family. Turned out to be all lies. And he just inserted himself in order to get some 15 minutes of fame. He got to go on a couple. Couple news shows and do interviews or whatever before he was found out to be a big fat liar. So that's not. I mean, it's not unheard of that that's the case. But if you are a defense team and you are given information that says that there are people in a witness, more than one person, who say that they saw your client in a restaurant far away from where he was supposed to be at this time, and they have credit card receipts and there are more than one eyewitness and they are corroborating each other's stories. You at least need to look into it. So the idea that they haven't even contacted them is crazy work. So let's continue a little bit more of this video.

[Adam Clark]

This is what is known as an alibi witness. No, I couldn't have been in Orem sending those text messages. I was in Panguish. And had I been in Panguish, as my alibi suggests, I was in Panguish, there's no way I could have been sitting in Orem looking for a gun. There's no reason the defense team has not gone in person to Panguach, Utah, and interviewed these people and collected all evidence they can possibly get. None. There's no reason. There's no reason, frankly, the prosecution has it. They're under a duty to find justice. Not to convict Tyler Robinson in the face of all contradictory evidence, but to find evidence of who did the crime. And if there's evidence that Tyler Robinson was not where his text messages said he was, they're under a duty to figure that out. And they haven't contacted these people either. But this whole thing makes it impossible for Tyler to be waiting for the police to leave, looking and texting Lance and saying, hey, I'm sitting out here watching a cop. And, well, again, we'll go through this. But there's no way he could have been there if he did not leave before 10 o'.

[Kyle Anzlone]

Clock.

[Adam Clark]

He didn't leave Penguin before 10 o'.

[Donald Trump (voice impression)]

Clock.

[Adam Clark]

Then he was not there in Orem before midnight. And he said he was going to update Lance Twigs by midnight because he had been attempting to get the rifle and was unsuccessful because a cop was lingering. So one of two things is true, because I'm going to rule out Time traveler here. Diligent has given three options. I'm going to rule this out, then I'm going to play the video. Either the texts are fabricated, which I now wholly believe, or someone was pretending to be Tyler. Meaning the prosecution is saying someone at the scene was acting like they were Tyler, but we're not at all Tyler. Or he's a time travel. I'm ruling out time traveler, but let me play this video here because it's pretty stunning. For anonymity purposes, the guy has taken

[Cowboys Smokehouse Employee]

off his name back here, interviewing one of the employees that met Tyler Robinson on the night of September 10th, around 9pm here at Cowboys Smokehouse in Panguitch, Utah. So how long have you worked at Cowboys?

I've been here about a year and a half now.

A Year and a half now. And were you here?

Yes, I was working here. I remembered him coming in, sitting at the bar. He ordered a steak, a couple beers.

Did you sit at the end of the bar?

Close to the end, second seat in. I wasn't the waiter who was taking his order and everything, but I did have a couple interactions with him. Just trying to help out. After. After I'd notified my boss, we reached out to the authorities, contacted the FBI. They got our contact information, but we never heard anything from them.

You never heard back from the FBI after we reported it?

Never heard anything. And that's what. That's kind of what prompted me to send it in. It just didn't say it right.

And. And how certain are you that it was Tyler Robinson that you saw?

100.

100.

[Adam Clark]

When I will add, that's more certain than Lance Twiggs was, that the guy in the stairwell was Tyler Robinson. If you remember from Lance Twiggs's testimony, his 1102 testimony, Lance Twiggs was asked, is this Tyler Robinson? He's like, I can't be 100 sure. I mean, it kind of looks like him. They got this. He's wearing jeans. Tyler wore jeans. He's wearing shoes. Tyler wore shoes. He's wearing a hat. Tyler wore a hat. You know, I've never seen him in that hat in particular, but he liked hats. He's a big hat guy, big into hats. Sunglasses. Oh, man, he loves sunglasses. So, yeah, I mean, it kind of looks like him based on the clothing. And that's not a very confident answer that that was Tyler Robinson in the stairwell. Whereas this guy is like, oh, yeah, 100%, no question.

[Misty Winston]

I am going to interject a little bit here because just because an eyewitness says they're 100% certain doesn't mean anything. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable. People see things, misremember them. The human brain is a interesting thing. It works in very mysterious ways. And I mean, it can mess with memory very quickly. So even if you see something and immediately go and report it, instantly your brain starts to forget things, see things differently, all of that stuff. So you have to be very careful with eyewitness testimony in any situation, because it is just not reliable. That's just reality. That's just the way that it works. And that's why it's difficult to even try a case based on eyewitness testimony because it is so unreliable. However, you have these two people, and again, this is not really about. Do you think that he was there or Not. It's not really about, do you think that he did it or not? It's about the fact that the defense was presented with information that could help their client. Because all you have to do is introduce reasonable doubt. That's all you have to do. And the idea that they were presented with this information and haven't even attempted to look into it is. I don't even know what that is. It's malpractice for sure. I don't know what that looks like for him. I don't know if he's aware of this smokehouse. I don't know if anybody's asked him. Maybe his defense team has already consulted with him. Hey, did you go to the smokehouse? And he said no? I don't know. But the idea that they haven't even gone to talk to them is a very strange to me, Adam. I do not understand it. It seems like really, I mean, I don't know, you're. This kid's life's on the line and you can't even be bothered to go interview some waiters about where he may have potentially been.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

Well, and I, I personally can't prove that the, the defense is purpose. Purposefully not attempting to seek this information. So maybe they don't know, or maybe because we wouldn't know. I mean, we wouldn't be privy to this. Maybe they. They requested this and somebody or something else blocked it because there's a, there's like a network type. People just say, I don't need to get too conspiratorial about it, but, you know, the types that hang out together in that state and, you know, judges and restaurant owners and credit card processing people, insurance agents, cops, you know, there's. There's a lot of corruption going on. So, yeah, they, they. Oh, well, whoops, yeah, we had the credit card receipt. Then maybe there's a reason why it would appear that they're not seeking this information. But then again, I mean, with such a high, high profile question. Yeah, again, I, you would think this should be the thing, that, the number one thing, that if we were their defense, we would be asking for this and presenting this as the reasonable doubt in court.

[Misty Winston]

Yeah, there's no question about it. And again, you're right. We don't know. We don't know what's going on behind closed doors. We don't know if maybe they have checked out. Maybe they've decided that it isn't legit. Maybe. We don't know. And you're right, there could be a whole other side of this nobody's really considering. So there's a lot of. There's a lot. But I do think that this is something that needs to be called attention to. Obviously, people aren't talking about it. I mean, Candace is really the only person I see attempting. Not really the only person, but obviously the loudest person I see even asking questions. And I mean, kudos to her. She's getting absolutely smeared and slandered and all kinds of stuff when it seems to me as if she just wants to know what the hell happened to her friend. And justifiably so. And it's weird to me that so many people are not more curious about all of the inconsistencies and all of the weird stuff that's going on and the fact that for some strange reason, Ben Shapiro's security was on the phone with Charlie Kirk security, as he's bleeding out actively in the back of an suv. Like, that's weird. That's weird. And I think that, like, that's obviously weird. They didn't even get along. So why were they on the phone with Ben Shapiro's security people? I don't know. And I feel like that's a reasonable question to be asked. I feel like there's a lot of reasonable questions to be asked, and this is just another one to add to the bunch. So let's hear just a little bit more about what this waiter has to say, and then we'll just move on.

[Adam Clark]

No question.

[Cowboys Smokehouse Employee]

I had heard his voice. He was just a weird guy. And I wasn't really paying no offense

[Adam Clark]

to Tyler, you know, with the weird guy comment, but we'll let him continue

[Cowboys Smokehouse Employee]

paying attention to my phone. That day, I'd seen that Charlie. Charlie had been shot, and I didn't really want to give any of my energy to it until I was done with work. And the next morning I went to my other job and my co worker was kind of talking to me about it. He pulled up a picture. He said I looked like I was a little. I was a little shocked by it because I recognized the face. And then later that night, or that day rather, they'd released a video of him getting his college acceptance letter. And when I heard his voice, it was no doubt dead ringer that that was him.

[Interjector (possibly Misty or Adam)]

And.

[Cowboys Smokehouse Employee]

And do you know what time he left?

It was close to closing, so it was around.

What time did you guys close?

10 o'.

Clock.

I was the one who helped him

check out, and you were the one that helped him check out. So you're the one that you took the card from him? Yep. Okay.

And that's just like I told. I took the card. I figured that would be good information for the feds to look into it.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

And.

[Cowboys Smokehouse Employee]

And they never checked into it, not once.

I. I don't know if they checked into that. I know they, they got that information from my boss.

So they got the information, but you don't know. You never heard back again?

Never heard anything from them.

The defense. Did the prosecution ever reach out to you guys to come testify or anything like that?

Reached out to us at all?

Has the defense hasn't reached out to you?

No.

No one's reached out to you whatsoever, even though you saw him that night?

Yeah. No one's reached out regarding anything to do with Tyler Robinson.

[Misty Winston]

And that's crazy. Not even the defense. Like, that is crazy to me. I feel like that is a huge story, should be talked about more. Any defense worth anything would go and at least, at the very least have a conversation with these people. Right. That seems like very basic stuff. So the idea that they have not even bothered to reach out to them on any level is crazy. Now, it is good to know that the credit card information seemingly at least, was given from. I mean, at least that's what they say, from the restaurant to the FBI. I don't know what came of that. Obviously, nobody knows what came of that. But again, to me, the biggest thing about this is the idea that the defense team has not reached out to these people to even question them once, to even attempt to. I don't know, it just seems like a very strange lack of action on the part of the defense. But there you go.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

This, this whole affair is a tough one to go into. And you're already a skeptical person.

[Misty Winston]

Yes.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

Because people are going to jump at you, be like, oh, no, you're in denial or something. No, nobody's in denial. We're just like, you know, doing the old fashioned thing with. We want real evidence, not a narrative. I mean, we all. This is one of those things. We all got to witness. What happened on camera happen. The assassination of Charlie Kirk was horrific. It was a terrible experience for anyone who had to see that or deal with it. But, I mean, but there's so many holes in the story, so many weird rabbit holes that have evolved out of this. There's. There's entire groups of people who believe the dude's not even dead. I mean, that's how many bizarre, fishy things there are about this. So many that I'm like, I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it, to be completely honest with you. So, again, think it symbolized a turning point in this new era that we're in where we have to. We don't know what is real. We have to question everything. And then when they do things like this, did they really do that? Are we just perceiving that they did that? Is it the Mandela effect? Is it cern, or do they just do this on purpose so that we all are scratching our heads and they're easier to, you know, pick us off one by one or control us?

[Misty Winston]

Yeah. And I feel like it could be any number of any one of those or any combination of those. But what I do know is that. And listen, I don't have a dog in this fight. I do not care. I mean, I don't really care. Like, obviously I care that we know what reality is and that we know what the truth is in this situation, as I care about with every situation. But I'm not like a Charlie Kirk fan. I'm not like a Charlie Kirk hater. I don't really care. Like, it's not. I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm not a Candace fan. I don't really care. I know that Erica Kirk creeps me the out, but that's a whole other story. But I just like, I'm not super invested in this story. So I'm not like coming at this from any angle or any narrative or any agenda. I just want to know what the hell happened. I want to know what the reality is. I want to know who actually shot Charlie Kirk. I want to know why they shot Charlie Kirk. I want to know if any foreign governments might have been involved in the shooting of Charlie Kirk. I want to know what happened. And I feel like we should all want to know what is happening in our country and in our lives and what is reality. Because that's the scary part about this, is that, I mean, as we talked about earlier, this is like the digital age where quite literally we do not know if what we are seeing with our own eyes is real. And that's a very scary proposition. So this is just another addition of that. And I don't know that we're ever going to know. Maybe in 40 years they'll declassify some files and we'll figure out what a little piece of what happened. That's generally what happens in this country. But stay skeptical, y'.

[Adam Clark]

All.

[Misty Winston]

Question everything. Don't buy anything, don't believe anything. And I know that's. That sounds really like depressing, like you can't believe anybody or anything. But it's true. I mean, you just have to do your best to try to suss out what's real. Try to figure out, watch multiple sources and try to figure out kind of sort of where the truth may lie. That's the really all that you can do right now. And try not to let it overwhelm you because it's overwhelming to me. I'm sure that it is for everybody. Like trying to live in this existence and figure out what the hell's going on every day and what's real and what's not is a lot to handle. So again, please go check out that whole. Again, it's. What's his name? Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? Baron, I think. Cohen Coleman. I'm sorry? Baron Coleman. Go check out that whole video. He goes over all of this, including the times, the timestamps, the text messages, all of that stuff in great detail. It's a very long video. So obviously I can't go into all of it here on this show, so please go check that out for yourself. And I mean, again, just try to figure it out the best you can. And I don't know, it's a lot, Adam, it is a lot right now to try to figure out what's going on in the world.

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[Misty Winston]

Welcome to the Jimmy Dore Show. I am your guest host, Misty Winston. We have a jam packed show today. Genuinely, truly, I don't know how I'm gonna get through everything. We're gonna do it together. I'm very excited though because I do have several really cool people joining me on the show today. So I'm gonna bring in our first guest. He's Adam Clark. He's better known as Ruckus. He hosts and produces the Daily Ruckus, a news and opinion podcast on alternate current radio. A self described jack of all trades, he works by day as the word slinger, a business and marketing consult, graphic designer, and by night as a critical media analyst and commentator. He's a longtime regular on the Boiler Room and is a frequent, frequent guest and occasional co host on the Sunday Wire with Patrick Henningson. We love Patrick. He's also a regular contributor to Weaponized News with Sam Chaney and serves as the assistant chainsaw juggler at Alternative Alternate Current Radio. And he also used to be my news producer when I worked at TNT Radio and he was my bud. And it's been a long time since we've done anything together, so I'm very excited. Adam, thank you so much for joining.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

Hi, Missy. You're right, it's been, I think you described it on your social media post earlier. A hot minute is how the kids would say it. Right? I was thinking about that, actually. I was like before I got on air, I was like, boy, it has been in quite a while. I'm really bad at the dates. And so I couldn't tell you how many years ago it was, but it feels like forever ago. I can say this for certain. Certainly the world has changed a lot since then, but this space in particular media, alternative media, whatever this is, has gone through quite a bit of changes since the last time you and I shared airtime. So I'm very excited to be doing this and thank you so much for having me.

[Misty Winston]

Yeah, of course. And we have a lot to get through. As you said, the world has changed quite a bit and it seems like there's always a barrage of nonsense happening. So we're going to start off with what I consider to be a little bit of good news that we rarely get around these farts. Lindsey Graham. Wonderful. Lindsey Graham has died. Everybody. And I'm sure everybody's already heard about this. I'm sure everybody's already talked about this, seen all of the commentary and all of the tweets and all of the hagiographies and all of that stuff. So I wanted to talk about this from a very specific angle. And that is the constant moral pearl clutching whenever somebody horrible dies, as if we somehow need to pretend that they weren't horrible because they graced us with their death. And I feel like that is nonsense, Adam. And so we're gonna. I wanna just to make clear the kind of horrible person that Lindsey Graham was, which I' sure most, most, if not all of the people here in this chat, watching this show, are aware that Lindsey Graham sucked. He was a terrible human being. Genuinely. That is just the reality of it. But this is just. We're going to go through just a few of the things and listen, we could make this show is three hours long, usually longer because I ramble as I'm doing now, but I could make an entire show going through all of the horrible things Lindsey Graham has done and said over the years. So here's one. This is. Oh, this is the statement on his death. This is actually one of the good things that he did. So this is just. The office of the US Senator Lindsey Graham released the following statement. On the Evening of Saturday, July 11, US Senator Lindsey Graham passed away from a brief and sudden illness, which is also a very strange thing. Senator Graham's family appreciates prayers at this time and asks for privacy during this incredibly difficult period. So let's just talk about Adam, a few of the things that he has done and said over the years. This is when he threw hurricane victims and his very own state to the side to talk about, of course, Israel.

[Lindsey Graham (voice impression)]

You know, I've been going all over South Carolina, like most people hadn't slept much, but look what's going on in Israel. Our friends in Israel surrounded by people that want to kill them, destroy them. A second holocaust in the making. And Biden says be proportional. What is the proportional response? The people who want to kill you and your family, they're running out of ammunition in Israel. We have to help our friends to keep the war over there from coming here. They're willing.

[Misty Winston]

I mean,

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

broken record much there.

[Donald Trump (voice impression)]

Yeah.

[Misty Winston]

And this is right following a hurricane that affected his state severely. And he wants to talk about Israel. I mean, just an incredible lack of self awareness there, I think.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

Very, very interesting clip, by the way. I'm not sure what the context was. Something to do with the election night, but it was on 33 days. So that's always fun right there for. Yeah, A little time to track that stuff, right?

[Misty Winston]

Yeah, yeah. Interesting.

[John McCain (voice impression)]

Right.

[Misty Winston]

So here's another one and this one is one that I think Jimmy covered here on the show. Actually, I may have covered it when I was guest hosting for Jimmy one of these days. I know I talked about it somewhere. I remember covering it. I don't remember on what show, but this was. And I know I talked about it with Kyle Anzlone, who will be joining us later, by the way. But this where he's talking about how Russians are dying. Free or dying.

[John McCain (voice impression)]

Free or dying.

[Misty Winston]

Now you are free. Yes, and we will be.

[John McCain (voice impression)]

And the Russians are dying. It's the best money we've ever spent.

[Misty Winston]

Thank you so much. No, it's Russians are dying, Adam. It's the best money we've ever spent. What a classic.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

That's a classic right there.

[Cowboys Smokehouse Employee]

Yeah.

[Misty Winston]

This is war. Classic war. Hawk Lindsey Graham. Everybody knows that this guy was a raging psychopath. He could. There couldn't be enough war for Lindsey Graham. It was what he loved most in this world. I think here is again, he's discussing Ukraine, and he's talking about how they'll fight to the last Ukrainian, which I love, by the way, that Lindsey Graham, very comfortable in his mansion in South Carolina, felt that he had any power whatsoever to tell Ukrainians that they must die. Like the very last Ukrainian must die for this war.

[John McCain (voice impression)]

I like the structural path we're on here. As long as we help Ukraine with the weapons they need and the economic support, they will fight to the last person.

[Misty Winston]

When is he going to fight? Well, he's not now. He's not going anywhere.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

Well, this. This is a tragic side effect of most of these politicians. None of them, for the most part, have served and. Or send their family, their sons and daughters to go die for their wars, usually.

[Misty Winston]

No, they're never under any threat for that. And it's vile that they are fine and dandy sending your sons and daughters. My daughters. I'll be damned. I mean, Ukrainians and not even your country's people. Like, this is like an entirely different country of people, and you're willing to send them off to sacrifice them on the altar of Western imperialism. It's just disgusting. But that was who Lindsey Graham was. That is exactly who he was. Here he is talking about how he wants to see. Oh, sorry. No, this is. This is him talking about, of course, Israel. One of his other favorite things, war in Israel. His two favorite topics.

[Lindsey Graham (voice impression)]

Anti Semites, all the isolationists. I don't. Forget it. I'm not with you. I'm with Israel. I will be with Israel to our dying day. They're the best ally we could hope for. So we have a commander in chief and President Trump who I think is Ronald Reagan. Plus plus plus.

[Misty Winston]

He says that as if it's a good thing. It's hilarious. I mean. But, yeah, that's. He's with Israel. He's not with his fellow Americans. He is with Israel until his dying day.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

Well, he said our. He said our dying day. Whatever that means, right?

[Misty Winston]

Is that what he said? Yeah, whatever that means. But, I mean, he kept his promise, I guess, for his own dying day.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

I've always wondered that. When you get, like, those lifetime guarantees with something, it's like, is it the lifetime of the product or the lifetime of you? I've never been clear on that.

[Misty Winston]

Yeah, that's actually a good point. I've never thought of it that way. Okay, so here he is talking about wanting to oust Putin. However.

[John McCain (voice impression)]

Yeah, I hope he'll be taken out one way or the other. I don't care how they take him out. I don't care if we send him to the Hague and try him. I just want him to go. Yes, I'm on record. Please understand. Senator Lindsey Graham. If John McCain were here, he'd be saying the same thing. I think it's time for him to go. He's a war criminal. I wish somebody had taken Hitler out in the 30s. So, yes, that Vladimir Putin is not a legitimate leader. He is a war criminal. He needs to be dealt with by the Russian people. I'm not asking to invade Russia to take him out. I'm not asking to send American ground forces in Ukraine to fight the Russian army. I am asking the Russian people to rise up and end this reign of terrorists for you and the world at large, that if you follow Putin, you're going to have zero future. I encourage what Zelensky said, that every American company leave Russia right now, leave today. I encourage the world to strangle the Russian economy. Our war is not with the Russian people. In many ways, there's much of a victim as Putin as anybody else. The young journalist yesterday who held up the sign, now, that takes guts. People like that change history. So how do I think this ends? I think if we stick with it, that if we help the Ukrainians fight for their own freedom, provide them reasonable assistance on the military front to regain control of their skies, help them with food and clothing and economic assistance and strangle the Russian economy, that there will be forces emerge inside of Russia to end this. This. So I think the world is better off without Putin.

[Misty Winston]

I can't listen to him anymore. I always find it amusing, Adam, when people, especially politicians from the United States, think that they get to finger wag at literally anyone else for being a war criminal. I don't know where they think they get the moral superiority, but it doesn't exist if you are American.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

Maybe their mommies didn't teach them that thing like when you point a finger at somebody, you got 1, 2, 3, point and back at you or something like that. Right?

[Misty Winston]

Yeah. Where's the Sophie Cunningham meme that's been going around that I need right now?

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

Oh, that's right, the pointing lady, right?

[Misty Winston]

Yeah, yeah, the WNBA player.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

He's got this obsession with repeating like these horrible words like strangle. We need to strangle. He uses like. I'm like, use it once, it's fine. I guess that's normal. As a writer, I can see how you want to use flowerly language to keep it fresh and entertaining. But to repeat these types of words just says a lot about your personality. The guy is definitely. Or was in past tense now. Psychopath. Yes.

[Misty Winston]

Yeah. There's no question about it. There is no. I mean, I'm not a doctor, so I guess I can't say there's no question about it because I don't really have any business diagnosing people. But in my very amateur opinion, and I am kind of obsessed with psychopathy and in particular serial killers, like, I am fascinated by that type of brain. And he really fits the bill. I mean, there's just no question. And I don't think that really there's any. I don't think most people would debate that. And I think that most people who reach that level of power are on a little bit of that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can't, because in order to reach that level of power, you have to be willing to do some really horrendous things. And he definitely fits that bill. There's no question about it. So here is another one.

[Lindsey Graham (voice impression)]

President Trump is in the process of doing it. They're going to lose and we're going to win Israel in the United States. You just wait to see what comes in the next two weeks.

[Misty Winston]

The next two weeks, meaning what?

[Lindsey Graham (voice impression)]

We're going to blow the hell out of these people. This.

[Misty Winston]

We're going to blow the hell out of these people. That's what he said. Just so casual about it, too. That's what I find so fascinating is the just how casually he speaks about blowing people up, taking people out. It's very strange. Again, that's that psychopathy, I think, poking through there.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

Oh, people don't do that. I don't do that. Do you do that?

[Misty Winston]

No, no, quite the opposite, actually. I don't. I can't even imagine having that type of brain. I can't even imagine having that type of brain. I have far too much empathy and overabundance of it, in fact, that I. I mean, I wish I had maybe a little bit more of that because it sucks to be overly empathetic. But yeah, he's a raging psychopath. And this is, again, I'm just showing you, like this is the people that they are asking you now to to praise as he was a good person. And you'll see all these politicians out here, like Alexandria Ocasio Cortez and I think Ro Khanna has a post out and all of these so called progressive politicians who were like, yeah, we disagreed, but he was, you know, he had character and spunk and he, you know, he really fought for. No, he was a scumbag, a bonafide scumbag. And it is okay to say that if you don't want to be called a scumbag after you die, don't be a scumbag when you are alive. It's really that simple. And I feel like there is this weird thing and that's why I want to talk about this. There's this weird thing that happens when these people die that everybody wants to clutch their pearls and pretend like it's not okay to speak the truth and the reality. Like you're not supposed to speak ill of the dead. No. Like, if I would have said this to his face if he were alive, I'm not going to just pretend he was somebody he wasn't because he died. Like, that's weird to me. It's always been weird to me. I don't like it. I, I feel like you should just be honest about who he was as an individual and nothing about that changes just because he died. Guys, like, it's okay. You can still, you know, be honest with yourself about who he was and speak it into existence. It was who he was. Here's another one. This is one of my favorite ones where he's talking about how Donald Trump is his favorite president. And you'll see why.

[Lindsey Graham (voice impression)]

I just want to say I feel good about the Republican Party. I feel good about where we're going as a nation. We're killing all the right people and we're cutting your taxes. Trump is my favorite president. We've run out of bombs. We didn't run out of bombs in World War II.

[Misty Winston]

We've run out of bombs. That's why Trump is his favorite president, because Trump bombed enough people to run out of bombs. I mean, Barack Obama did that too. I wonder if he was a big fan of Barack Obama because Barack Obama bombed enough people to run out of bombs too, in Syria. So somehow I don't think that that probably would have been as exciting for him. But there you have it. Trump is his favorite president because we ran out of bombs.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

And he was clearly drunk during that little speech or whatever that was. I mean, he was literally swaying and slurring and everything. So you'll have to forgive him this time. Of course, he probably would have said the exact same thing, if not worse, if he was completely sober. So there's that.

[Misty Winston]

I mean, listen, again, I could have literally done an entire three hour show just on these clips over. I mean, it's hard to even choose which ones to show because there are so many of them of him being just a repugnant piece of crap.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

And, and it's worse than that, Misty. I mean, I guess, well, I guess it's okay. I mean, is it too soon? But most people, especially in this sphere, looked at the guy and saw the way he reacted to the death and destruction and honestly truly thought that he was getting like a raging boner over the whole thought of the death and destruction. Which again, you know some of this stuff, like, because you watched some of that true crime in those detective shows, that's another sign that you're sick in the head, right?

[Misty Winston]

Yes, yes, 100%. You're 100% right. And we're going to play. Caitlin Johnstone wrote a piece kind of expressing the same thing I'm expressing here, but obviously in much better terms because she's a really great writer, but she talks about his like, sexual attraction to war. And it's, it's weird and it's gross and I don't understand it, but that's who he was. And I feel like again, it's okay to just admit that that's who he was. So I have like a gazillion other ones that. Between. Actually let me play one more terrible one about him because I feel like this is pretty nasty where he's talking about using nukes.

[Lindsey Graham (voice impression)]

He decided to end the war by bombing Hiroshima, Nagasaki with nuclear weapons. That was the right decision. Give Israel the bombs they need to end the war they can't afford to lose and work with them to minimize casualties. Can I say this? Why is it okay for America to not to drop two nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki to end their existential threat war. Why was it okay for us to do that? I thought it was okay to Israel do whatever you, you have to do to survive as a Jewish state.

[Misty Winston]

I mean, it wasn't okay. Hope that helps.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

Exactly. Somebody had to say it, right?

[Misty Winston]

Yeah. The idea that that's his argument is like it was okay for us to drop nukes on Japan, so why can't Israel drop nukes on Gaza? Like, it wasn't okay, my guy. That's the way his, that's his mentality. But the ones that I wanted to show that Just because I thought this was very funny. So Lindsey Graham was stuck up Trump's ass in the later years of his life, but they weren't always buds. He had a really big problem with him. In 2015, 2016, there was a lot of John McCain stuff that went on. I'm sure you guys all remember that Trump often said terrible things about John McCain, which is fine by me. But Lindsey Graham was very good friends with John McCain, so that really rustled his feathers. So he was not happy about that. But this was just to show you the dynamic that they used to have where they were definitely not good friends. And Trump did something that's actually kind of funny. But we'll. Let's just show. I'll show the Lindsey Graham clip, and then we'll show Trump's reaction to it,

[John McCain (voice impression)]

that he's a jackass, really, that he's bringing his name down and he's not helping the process, and he shouldn't be commander in chief. If you. If you want to be commander in chief of the armed forces, you need to understand that John McCain and all like him, not just John, are truly American heroes. That when you put yourself in harm's way, that makes you a hero. But you know what I think makes you a hero when you're the spouse raising kids, when your loved one's deployed. I've been in the military for 33 years. It truly is a team and a family. So what he said about John, I think was offensive. He's becoming a jackass at a time when we need to have a serious debate about the future of the party and the country.

[Misty Winston]

I mean, I guess a broken clock is right twice a day. I agree with him. Trump's a jackass. No question about it, right? No question about that. Yeah. But this was Trump's reaction.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

Remember the phone thing? Trump also gave. He doxed his phone number.

[Misty Winston]

That's what I'm about to show you.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

Oh, okay. Sorry.

[Misty Winston]

No, it's okay. That's what I'm about to show you, because it is kind of funny. Like this.

[Adam Clark]

This is.

[Misty Winston]

This is classic Trump.

[Donald Trump (voice impression)]

So he calls me a jackass this morning, and I said to myself, you know, it's amazing. He doesn't seem like a very bright guy. Okay. He actually probably seems to me not as bright, honestly, as Rick Perry. But today I got called a jackass by this guy. Then I said to myself, hey, didn't this guy call me, like, four years ago? Yes, he called me four years ago. Three. Four years ago. Lindsey Graham. I didn't even Know who he Was? He goes, Mr. Trump, this is Senator Lindsey Graham. I wonder if it would be possible for you to call Fox, because, you know, until I ran, I had that little thing which I do just for fun. Fox and Friends are so great. Brian and Steve and Elizabeth. They're great people, right? They're great. And he walked. Wanted to know whether or not I could give him a good reference on Fox and Friends. Okay. He wanted to know, would I do that? And then, of course, he wanted to know whether or not he could come and see me for some campaign contribution. And he gave me his number, and I found the card. I wrote the number down. I don't know if it's the right number. Let's try it. 202.

[Cowboys Smokehouse Employee]

I don't know.

[Donald Trump (voice impression)]

Maybe it's, you know, it's three, four years ago, so maybe it's an old number. 202-202-228-0292. So I don't know. Give it a shot.

[Misty Winston]

It's amazing. So funny. Oh, classic trolling. Like, that's classic Trump. Like, the funny side of Trump. Trump is obviously a menace to society, but then he does funny stuff, and at least he's entertaining. I mean, listen, if we got to live in the collapse of empire, at least we got silver linings. And at least he's entertaining. I guess that's about all we can work with there.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

So that was easier to say his first time around, though, unfortunately.

[Misty Winston]

Very true. Yes. Yes. He's not really funny anymore. Honestly now he just seems to be unnecessarily cruel, petulant, throwing temper tantrums constantly. It's just constant. Y', all, my kids are better behaved. My kids have always been better behaved. Like, my kids didn't throw tantrums that large. He is a giant man, baby.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

And, yes, he exhumes this certain genus cringe. That's what it is.

[Misty Winston]

100%, yes. He's a disaster. But I just thought that that was funny just to show you that as much as Lindsey Graham was up his ass at the end of his life, there was a time when they were not friends. And I think it just goes to show you that political opportunism can mend any relationship through. That's really all that it amounts to, is if there's some political. If it's politically advantageous for Lindsey Graham to kiss Donald Trump's ass, he will do it. He did do it, and that's just how politics works. But here I wanted to just play really quickly again. I promise, this is it's. Only like three minutes long. It's read by her husband, but this is a piece that Caitlin Johnstone wrote in response to Lindsey Graham's death.

[Caitlin Johnstone (voice impression)]

Well, at least Lindsey Graham is dead. The only positive thing about the Iran war heating up again is that Lindsey Graham won't be around to enjoy it. The bloodthirsty South Carolina senator breathed his last on Saturday, succumbing to what his office describes as a brief and sudden illness after a political career dedicated to promoting wars, airstrikes, and proxy conflicts at every possible opportunity. People have long poked fun at the hypocrisy of Lindsey Graham living as an obvious closeted gay man in a political party with a virulently anti LGBTQ platform. I personally have always found Graham's sexual attraction to men a lot less interesting than his sexual attraction to acts of mass military slaughter. Ever since the death of Graham's dear friend John McCain, nobody on Capitol Hill has been able to match his gleeful enthusiasm for the shredding of human bodies using high priced war machinery. Wherever there was any debate about dropping bombs, launching missiles, toppling foreign governments, arming proxy forces, or imposing starvation sanctions, you could always count on Lindsey Graham to be the first and loudest voice arguing in favor of more death and destruction. Graham has personally taken credit for persuading President Trump to begin the war with Iran. In the months leading up to his unexpected demise, the senator had advocated for direct US Military interventionism in Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, Yemen, Nigeria, Lebanon, and Palestine, and had just returned from a trip to Kiev promoting the US Proxy war against Russia. He was literally pushing for more war and military expansionism until the very end of his life. Life, all the world's worst people are publicly expressing their grief about the loss of their beloved war slut. From Trump to Benjamin Netanyahu to Itamar Ben GVIR to Tom Cotton to Mike Huckabee. Meanwhile, everyone who's not a warmongering psychopath is having a splendid day. Of course, we're seeing imperial narrative managers like Piers Morgan wagging their fingers and chiding their audiences not to speak ill of the dead. But the hell with them. We're not doing that. Politeness is not more important than Lindsey Graham's victims. The liberal desire for propriety and nice feelings does not outweigh the importance of naming and shaming Graham's frenetic scramble to murder as many human beings as he possibly could throughout his evil, miserable life. Lindsey Graham is dead, and it is good that he is dead. May his omnicidal ideology soon join him in the arms of the cold, cold ground. May the insane, insatiable God he worshiped cease to gain recognition on this planet. Lindsey Graham is dead. At least that's one good thing. No matter what else happens today, they can't take that away from us.

[Misty Winston]

And there you go. And just to be clear, I just want to end on this. As Caitlin mentioned in that piece, the likes of Mike Huckabee and Benjamin Netanyahu and GVIR and all of the world's worst people are mourning Lindsey Graham's death. So this is what I had to say to that. If people like this mourn your death, just know I am celebrating it. And that's how I feel about that. When Ben GVIR is mourning your death death, you're probably on the wrong side of a few issues. So there you go.

[Adam Clark (alternate or additional commentary)]

I saw a post from Satan too, who said he was very upset to hear the news. Just saying

[Misty Winston]

we're gonna jump into a little bit of a foreign policy segment here. And of course, when I do foreign policy, you know, sorry, you know, I have to bring on my good pal Kyle Anzlone. So you guys know Kyle, he's been on the show many times. So he is the news editor of the Libertarian Institute, opinion [e-mail] where he covers issues related to foreign policy, war and civil liberties, often often focusing on U. S. Involvement in Asia, Ukraine and the Middle East. And he's the co host of Conflicts of Interest and the host of the Kyle Anzlone show. Everybody, please go check that out. You can find that over on the YouTubes and anywhere you get your podcasts and all that good stuff. So definitely go and subscribe, follow, share, like all the stuff. So, Kyle, thanks for joining me, my friend. I appreciate it.

[Kyle Anzlone]

It absolutely. Misty, always appreciate that you have me on your show whenever you got the platform to do it.

[Misty Winston]

Yeah, you know, I will do that anytime. Okay, so there's a lot to get through. We're gonna start with the potential of Iran rebuilding. So there's a video that I'm gonna play here. This is from cnn, but we're just gonna jump right into this.

[CNN Reporter]

One of several shared exclusively with cnn may show signs of Iran attempting to rebuild its nuclear facility. This is one of several locations across the country where we've identified recent activity both at nuclear and missile sites. The activity in nuclear sites in particular raises questions as to whether Iran violated the Memorandum of Understanding it signed with the US in late June, even before President Trump seemed to signal its end this week. So for weeks we've only Got glimpses of what's been happening inside Iran. Providers have been withholding access to satellite imagery across the region at the request of the US government. But now those restrictions are loosening and we've been analyzing new imagery across Iran to see which sites they're starting to clear and repair to give us a sense of which may be the most important. Parchin is one of them. It was struck earlier this year. Now in new imagery from June and July analysed by CNN in conjunction with the Institute for Science and International Security, we can see Iran seems to be taking steps, steps to repair and reconstruct the site. Here you can see temporary covers placed over impact holes. Then weeks later, with the Memorandum still in effect, the covers are removed and replaced with a mesh concrete mixing. Trucks are visible nearby. Experts say these trucks are a sign the Iranians are intending to seal the holes. Then there is Pickaxe Mountain, a suspected underground nuclear site. And in recent weeks, vehicles can clearly be seen going in and out of the tunnels. There's also been activity at missile bases like this new paving in Tabriz and another missile base in Kermanshah. We can see excavators and tunnel entrances being cleared. With the US resuming its attacks on Iran, a peace agreement is seeming increasingly out of reach.

[Misty Winston]

All right, there we go. All right, Kyle, what do we make of this?

[Kyle Anzlone]

Yeah, so this I think is important, Misty, because it's propaganda and I think it's going to be used to blame the collapse of the Memorandum of Understanding standing on Iran. See what, what CNN is saying here in this I think TikTok style video, right? Like this is just low budget sad, you know, Boomer slop Iran war propaganda, right? Like it's only going to get shares on Facebook. But what they're doing is they're misinterpreting the Memorandum of Understanding where Iran did agree not to change his nuclear status, which means, means it's not going to add exit the non proliferation Treaty. They're not going to start building a nuclear weapon. They're not going to test new. That's what Iran was agreeing to in the Memorandum. Memorandum of Understanding. What CNN is trying to say is what Iran agreed to is not to do any work on any of their nuclear facilities. And as evidence that Iran is violating the Memorandum of Understanding, look, they tried to repair the roof of one of their nuclear facilities that was bombed. Stopped right like that. That doesn't show anything. And then they say that Iran is rebuilding missile and nuclear sites across the country. They put up a map. There's only Four dots on it. They're rebuilding one no nuclear site. That, by the way, Misty, the International Atomic Energy Agency, the iaea, the international nuclear watchdog, has inspected, verified that Iran wasn't making nuclear weapons there. The parching nuclear site site was addressed by the Iran era nuclear deal. So it's not a secret nuclear weapon site in any way. And they're saying that because Iran is doing repairs at this facility, simply that this already inspected and known sites, they could be making a nuclear bomb. Oh, no. We all have to be on alarm. It's, it's just absolutely pathetic propaganda. But really, you know, it's just convincing Donald Trump that this is the case. And I'm sure Mossad is passing this intelligence behind the scenes and we're going to be seeing a lot more of this in the coming days as it seems that the, the MoU ceasefire period has essentially entirely collapsed at this point.

[Misty Winston]

Yeah, and it's so, you know what it reminds me of? It reminds me of the same videos that Israel in Western media would put out about Hamas tunnels, where they would show this like, overhead thing and then they'd put like a scary red triangle over a certain area and be like, that's Hamas mosque. Despite the fact that it really shows nothing. Like it really just shows nothing. But they just, the way that they cover it and the way that they so forcefully declare that this is what's happening, it makes it seem as if, because it's cnn, a certain segment of the population will buy into that and they'll believe it. And you're right, it is full propaganda. Like this is. It's so frustrating to me to watch how effective this still is with people because it is so blatantly obvious to me that this is nonsense. But the idea that Iran has any, that, that they're attempting to build any like that has. They've never, that has never been proven, never by anybody. I mean, Tulsi Gabbard has even said there's no evidence that this is something that's taking place, that this is something that's happening. So why would they do it now, Kyle, when they know that they're under, like they're being watched, like everyone knows that they are being watched. So why would they suddenly attempt to start, start building a nuclear weapon when they're fully aware that this, this kind of stuff is taking place, that there are, you know, aerial overhead shots of all of their facilities and they're being like they're under a microscope. So the idea that they are, they're not that dumb, right? Like, they're just not that dumb.

[Kyle Anzlone]

Well, I. I will say, Misty, maybe there's two points where Iran might want to make a nuclear bomb. One is that they weren't making a nuclear bomb. They are trying to negotiate a deal with the United States that would give double extra public verification for the whole world to see that Iran wasn't trying to make a nuclear weapon when the US Attacked in Israel, attacked them not once, but twice in 12 months. However, I think what Iran has realized during this war is they could continue to leverage their nuclear program in the same way they have in the past, which is to offer additional inspections and restrictions on its new civilian nuclear program. Right. They're going to limit the amount of energy produced, the number of nuclear reactors they have, the number of centrifuges they have, the types of nuclear reactors they have. They're going to limit how much material they process to medical grade, which is up to 20%. Right. They're willing to agree to all these additional restrictions on their nuclear program if they're insured access to the world market, which means the removal of U.S. sanctions. And I think they're still willing to do that because they see this straight up Hormuz as a new deterrent to actual war. Right. That they're going to assert that, hey, we could close the straight of Four moves at any time. We're going to profit over the straight of four moves in the meantime, in the interim, and we're going to use that to rebuild our territory. If the US Attacks again, we'll shut down the straight of four moves again. And we've seen the worldwide conflict consequences of that already. And that seems to be statements from Iranian officials that are indicating that and even statements from US Sources on what the Iranians are demanding, which they're really drawing a hard line on the Strait of Hormuz issue.

[Misty Winston]

Yeah. As they should. I mean, it's. And what I think is so fascinating, too, is the way that Trump has navigated this whole situation has been like, just completely insane. Just recently. Here, I'm going to play this. Just recently he called them. Here, we'll just play it.

[Interjector (possibly Misty or Adam)]

It's a very interesting question to me. I think it's over. I don't want to deal with them anymore. They're scum. You know what scum is? They're scum. They're sick people. They're led by sick people, and they're vicious, violent people. And if they had a nuclear weapon, they'd use it. As far as I'm concerned, it's over. I'll speak to our negotiators. They want to negotiate. They're good people. Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner, but they have to come back to me. As far as I'm concerned, it's just a waste of time dealing with them. They're liars. We make a deal and they, if I make a deal with him, we have a deal and he goes out, he talks, we make a deal, everyone's agreed, no nuclear weapon. We make a deal, they go outside, talk to the press, they say, we never even talked about it, there's something wrong with them, they're cuckoo. As far as I'm concerned, it's over.

[Misty Winston]

I mean, that coming from him is endlessly entertaining. And I mean on like a, like dark humor, gallows humor kind of a way, because everything he just said about them is true for himself, right? Yes.

[Kyle Anzlone]

Well, I mean, look at what happened with the Memorandum of Understanding, Misty, where there's this 14 point MOU in this. Same thing happened in April when they agreed to the initial ceasefire, where the ceasefire, the Memorandum of Understanding, it's supposed to be a framework for a peace deal, that certain base core issues are dealt with in the Memorandum of Understanding, and the actual peace negotiations are supposed to be just hammering out the small details. That's how Iran looked at it. That's why Iran agreed to the ceasefire. That's why Iran agreed to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. What Washington saw with the Memorandum of Understanding is basically just an agreement to get a ceasefire, and then Trump is going to negotiate on whatever terms he wants to anyways. And so it's really the Americans that are agreeing to something and then not following through with their commitments. The one other interesting thing I, I thought about that statement, Misty, is it seems to be Donald Trump flailing around. I think if there was a military solution to this, this he wouldn't be calling the Iranian scum. He would be letting the US Military do the talking. I think this rhetoric is him trying to mask to the American people that he's been emasculated by the Iranians, that he threw everything the US Military had against. You know, Pete Headseth in his tight suit was out there with his chest pumped up, yelling, you know, rah, rah. We're smashing everything. We're destroying the Iranians. But, you know, after 12 weeks of intensive fighting, what we found out is that while The Iranians use 50% of their drones, 70% are 50% drones and only 30% of their missiles. The US used 50% of their missiles and 50% of their interceptors. The math simply doesn't work out to return to conflict, especially when Iran, even after the US Bombing campaign, is producing missiles faster than the US could produce interceptors. And so there is no military solution here. So he has to say all this rhetoric that sounds like he's going to be really tough on the Iranians, but then he also weaves in there, the negotiators want to keep negotiating, and I'm gonna let him do it. I don't think it's gonna go anywhere. It seems kind of pointless to me, but what the hell, we're going to keep talking. Now, the problem is, is that to actually get a deal done, the United States is going to have to make significant concessions. Simply put, strategically, the United States is in a worse place now than we were before the war. Sure, some Iranian infrastructure has been destroyed, schools have blown up, children murdered. But when you look at the kind of geopolitical chessboard, Iran controls the Strait of Hormuz. Now, Iran has linked a ceasefire in Lebanon to a ceasefire in the greater Middle East East. Iran has leaned sanctions relief on any kind of nuclear deal, with the US Remaining in kind of the NPT nuclear world order. So this is all really significant gains from the Iranian side. Unless Trump realizes that no matter how many times he allows Wyckoff and Kushner and bands to go to the table, they're not going to get anything done.

[Misty Winston]

No. And that was. Listen, that was always obvious, right? Everybody who and listen, I'm just some chick in Ohio, and I knew that this was a bad idea from day one. It was very clearly a bad idea. It was always a bad idea. It's now been proven to have been a really catastrophic idea to poke Iran. And I think that you're right. I think that what Trump is doing right there is desperately beating his chest, hoping that he can kind of perform strength to the American people, because he knows in reality he's in a really bad spot and has no way really of getting out now. I mean, it's kind of sunk cost fallacy. He can't back away now because he's just going to look really ineffective and weak. And he can't really proceed any much further because he knows it would be absolutely catastrophic. So he's in a really terrible position right now, and I think that he is very aware of that. But there you have it.

[Mike McRae]

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[Misty Winston]

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[Lindsey Graham (voice impression)]

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[Misty Winston]

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[Donald Trump (voice impression)]

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[Interjector (possibly Misty or Adam)]

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[Misty Winston]

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