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Guess Where The Billions Spent On Fixing Homelessness Are Going?!? w/ Keith McHenry
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L.A.’s top homeless services official Va Lecia Adams Kellum engaged in major misconduct, including hiring unqualified friends into powerful positions, trying to destroy public records and behaving inappropriately at a conference, according to two...
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Jimmy Dore
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Kurt Metzger
Hope this woman enjoyed herself with their beautiful necklace, dress, photo shoot because she.
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Jimmy Dore
About to go to jail.
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Kurt Metzger
You don't know who that was. Her name is Dr. Valicia Adams Kellum. She's the former CEO of the LA Homeless Services Authority. Yes, this is a person who supposedly administers homeless services in California. She was recently forced to resign though after her mega agency failed multiple audits. She says, I don't know where or how we spent billions of dollars. Oh, trust me, we know it's going right here. This necklace is obscene. I mean, I don't know anything about pearls, but this has got to be maybe 15, 20, $30,000 right here. So how did she get that money? Well, first off, she paid herself a monstrous salary, $430,000 a year. Then she funneled millions of dollars into her husband's sham organization, allegedly three separate times. She also really tried to booze it up at her holiday party by demanding that taxpayers pay for her open bar. And when an associate of hers said that, hey, that is an improper use of public funds, she got visibly angry and then terminated her employment. This is not only very petulant behavior, but also very illegal. After that, she started hiring her friends with whistleblowers, alleging that she pushed out staff, experienced staff, to hire unqualified friends and former subordinates from her previous job into high level, high salary positions within the LA Homeless Services Authority. And when people caught wind of this and started reporting, she tried to cover her tracks by destroying public records and also arranging to pay hush money. $800,000 to silence whistleblowers. $800,000 of your money. Yeah, I think it's time to start selling off some of these pearls, girl, because you're gonna need that money. Last thing I'll say, and this part is serious, is that the only reason why we know about any of this stuff is because there are still some great local reporters on the ground who still believe in real journalism pieces that I've cited in this video, as well as brave whistleblowers who still know right from wrong. Thank you, guys. You guys are the real heroes.
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Jimmy Dore
So they're make. So that's why the homeless problem is not being solved or even fixed a little is because there's a lot of money in scamming the people who are the taxpayers and not fixing the problem. Because if you fix the problem, then they're out of a job. And there's a little bit more to this site. Bringer says here's how the homeless scam actually works. Step by step, in full clarity. Crisis manufacturing. Politicians and agency heads need the crisis. The worse the street conditions get, the more urgency they can manufacture for new funding. More tents equal more press conferences. More overdoses equal more federal grants. More chaos equals more leverage. They don't want to solve homelessness, they want to administer it forever. Number two, nonprofit laundering. The public believes nonprofit means benevolent. In reality, it means unaccountable. Public agencies funneled tens of hundreds of millions to these non government organizations. They're called NGOs. The NGOs are run by connected insiders, friends, spouses, often all three. They receive the money with little to no competitive bidding. Then they inflate their own salaries, rent office space from their friends, hire former campaign staffers as consultants, submit vague metrics like outreach contracts made or rentals attempted, spend zero dollars on actually housing people. The cycle continues because, number three, metrics don't matter. These NGOs and agencies never report success by permanent exits from homelessness. They report people Engaged or meals served or services offered. This is by design, the measure. They measure activity, they don't measure outcomes. Why? Because if they were judged on results, they'd be defunded in a year. Number four, bureaucratic capture agencies like the Los Angeles Homeless Service Authority are run by the people who rotate between the government and the very nonprofits they fund and the political donor networks like we just saw in that video. They appoint their friends to high paying roles. They silence whistleblowers with settlements paid by taxpayers. They delete emails and destroy documents under public record laws. They, they treat criticism of their personal attack as a personal attack rather than a public accountability tool. There is no external audit that ever leads to criminal prosecution. Why? Because every layer of oversight is staffed by people connected to the scam, the political firewall. If you criticize the structure, you're accused of attacking women of color, undermining equity, not understanding the trauma informed model. It's weaponized identity politics to block any reform. It's weaponized identity politics because people are too afraid to speak up even when they see the theft in plain sight. They the it's the fear is what protects the machine. Hang on one second. Oh really? Okay, one more. Number six, media compliance. Most journalists won't touch this. Why? They rely on access to city hall. They don't want to be labeled as anti homeless. They get press kits and pre approved interviews from very nonprofits stealing the money. So instead of exposing the fraud, they run headlines like City increases Homeless Funding in Historic Equity Push. The media has become a laundering mechanism too. That's right. And number seven, the forever budget. Every year the budget grows, every year more tents appear. And every year the consultants say we just need a little more time, a little more funding, a little more trust. It's not incompetence. It's a high yield crisis economy where the victims stay poor and and the administrators get rich. So in summary, this is not about helping people. It's a grift at industrial scale. A crisis that became a career ladder. A tragedy monetized. A wound kept open on purpose because there's power, prestige and profit in pretending to heal it. And the moment someone tries to close it for real, the whole machine turns against them. Because in this system, solving homelessness would bankrupt the managers. So there you go.
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Keith McHenry
It's exactly right. I mean in Santa Cruz we have a city manager that's also the treasurer of the Food bank. The community liaison at the Food bank was the head of, was the president of the anti homeless group Take back Santa Cruz. When she was a city councilor. And it just the media. For instance, we're celebrating our 45th anniversary of the concert in San Lorenzo park here in Santa Cruz. And I've tried to get the media locally to maybe report on it. There's never been an actual, you know, like, news report in the local media about the fact that food, not bombs, fed the homeless every single day for three years during the pandemic when the other food programs were shut down because they were indoors. And we did it all as volunteers. You seem like that might be a story in the local media or the fact that we're in a thousand cities of the world and that we were. Right now we're dealing with the earthquake in Myanmar. That might be a story like, oh, wow. Homeless Phunat bombs organizer, founder, lives in Santa Cruz. But they're not going to do that. They're only going to have stories about the homeless industrial complex and how wonderful it is doing. That's basically all they will have.
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Jimmy Dore
And so that woman who's running that scam organization to help the homeless and enriching herself, that if that pearl necklace, I don't know if you remember in the Goodfellas, that pearl necklace would have landed her in a freezer truck. Do you remember in Goodfellas when they were buying new cars and fur coats? And then. And so then Jimmy had him killed and put in a freezer truck because you're being too obvious about the money that you stole. And that's exactly what's happening with her. She's got. So they're all. But there is nobody there to prosecute these people. So how do we fix this?
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Keith McHenry
Well, you know what, it's going to be really, really hard without. One of the things is we basically need a revolution would be the. Because we got to. We have to somehow organize in such a mass way. And I have been impressed that MAGA people that I know being pretty upset about, you know, the direction of Trump. So there's actually a possibility of some unity amongst all of us that are like, you know, that are low income. If we could have some kind of way of coalescing. But that is very, very difficult. And things like, you know, some people throw general strikes and things like that. There needs to be some kind of way to put the fear into the political system such that it bends to our will, basically. And that's like what you were doing with, you know, like, you know, for Medicare, for all, trying to have some kind of leverage. We have to have a strategy that somehow these people fear that we're coming with torches and pitchforks, and therefore they're going to give us better crumbs than they are currently doing. There's a good book on. On this. It was on the history of this welfare state by Francis Fox Piven called Regulating the Poor. So that she wrote that book in 1971. And it goes over the history of how. Of how United Way, or was called, you know, United Chest at the time was developed in New York City to. Because there was riots and they were trying to hand out money to people to stop rioting. And that's how ultimately our welfare system got started. It was social control right from the beginning. Fear that working class people that were, and this is in the Great Depression would rise up and take power from the ruling class. Another thing is the drug thing, which is a big maligning of homeless people all the time, the fentanyl. And I remember when the US Left Afghanistan, you would hear people talking about trying to buy heroin or do, you know, so and so with some heroin, if you were in the camps where that was happening, and then it went to fentanyl six months later, because there was no more heroin, that tells you something. Why did heroin stop and fentanyl happened? And then the staff person, I don't know her title, at the San Jose Police Union was using the San Jose Police Union's FedEx account, UPS account, with a return address to the union office, selling the largest amount of fentanyl ingredients to other people across the United States. And she was connected to the San Jose Police Department.
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Jimmy Dore
Yeah, we covered that story. They demonetized it on YouTube. That story. Yeah, yeah.
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Keith McHenry
My grandfather was in Oss in Burma during World War II. He directed the most deadly bombing campaign in world history called Operation Meeting House, the Firebombing of Tokyo. He was super proud of that. And he died when I was 14 and he kind of assumed I'd follow in his footsteps. So he talked a great deal about how when he was in Burma, he organized this heroin distribution system during World War II so that there would be flooding the black community in the United States with heroin because they knew with the unequal benefits from the GI Bill, because to get the GI Bill passed, they had better for whites, not as good for blacks. And so he told me we had to get them to fight each other over heroin so they wouldn't, like, organize and demand their. Their, you know, equal benefits of white people. So this strategy has been going on for a long time. Just like, like, you know, Gary Webb and, you know, exposing with yeah.
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Jimmy Dore
Exposing the crack cocaine being brought into this cities and flooding the black community with crack cocaine in the 80s by the CIA, which was revealed by Gary Webb. So this is the, this is the modus operandi for the deep state. And this is how they keep. So it's so working people don't come together to fight against the oligarchs that are squashing them, taking good jobs, sending it to slaves. So we don't come together. So we keep being angry at each other. We're angry at someone. And I always say if you're angry at someone lower on the economic ladder than you, there's a good chance you're being manipulated by someone higher on the economic ladder than you. And if the homeless problem, it's real easy to get angry at the homeless guy because you come in contact with that guy and that guy has been. Fentanyl has been flooded into our community. Why did heroin stop? Because we left Afghanistan. When we took over Afghanistan, heroin and all those farmers were turned into poppy farmers and all that heroin got flooded back into the United States. Well, as soon as we left Afghanistan, the Taliban doesn't put up with that stuff. So they got rid of the poppy farmers there and then all of a sudden the deep state, they switched to fentanyl and then they flood everybody with fentanyl. And that's exactly what's happening. And don't think this isn't by design, because it is by design. And we're the suckers. And so we think we keep fighting amongst each other. We keep left fighting against the right, MAGA fighting against lefties and liberals and all. And I my. The whole point of this show is to see through that and to come together. And what they want us to do is to live in such a chaotic state that we beg for authoritarian solutions to these problems and we give more power to the state. And that's the last thing we should do. The thing that only thing that scares them is for workers to unite across class lines. Which is why. And we've had on people like Christian Parenti that tells you that the people like the Ford foundation, the Rockefeller foundation, they work with the deep state, the CIA, to make sure that there is never a class analysis to a social movement, that it's always about identity politics and it's never about working class coming together. That's when you know they killed Martin Luther King. Not after he integrated. They didn't mind that he integrated the lunch counters that made more money for everybody. What they bothered them was when he did a poor people's March on Washington D.C. he didn't do a Black People's March on Washington D.C. he Didn't Do a poor black people's march. He did a poor people's march. He was bringing people together to oppose the Vietnam War and to advocate for workers rights. And that's when they killed him. And so that's what's happened. So this so I really I wish you're right. We do need a revolution and the start to that is for people to stop hating their neighbor. Don't get divided between Democrats and Republicans, conservatives. Don't call yourself a knot. Your neighbor is not the problem. Your neighbor is hurting just like you are under the same oligarchy just like during COVID they want don't let them divide us. Come together and keep your eye on the oligarchy. That's the only advice I can give people. And I think people like you are doing great work. What else would you like to say that I didn't?
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Keith McHenry
It's great you mentioned Christian Parente because he's an old fun out bombs volunteer in San Francisco during this whole time and I'm close to his father Michael. But yeah, that's what we need. We need like some dramatic way of pulling everybody together. So I have one friend who was a January sixer. She was in there. She's a really wonderful person and I would never be mad at her. She's a holistic health person. She's a amazing person, super smart, healed a lot of people. I wouldn't have gone to steal the, you know, steal the vote march myself. But then I have lefties that were there that took videos of it and they all, you know, and so we can be united. And I am amazed at how much more pushing back on social media and just in personal conversations people that voted for Trump, they really are disappointed and they're willing to fight back. And I do think we have some hope in that. I wrote like a substack about that a while ago and here we have like we tried to bring people together around the against the police state stuff called My girlfriend started a thing called Brave and free Santa Cruz and we did get Republicans, Libertarians and we didn't get any Democrats but we got far left wingers all united to try to stop the license plate reader, to try to free Julian Assange, to try to stop the invade the US war against Russia through Ukraine proxy. So we've been and boy did we get smeared by by the local community for being like these right wing. Yeah, it was incredible.
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Jimmy Dore
If you come if you come out against the police state, if you come out against war, they immediately slander you as a right winger. If you come out for my body, my choice, you're now slandered as a right winger, which we found out during COVID So that's why the Democrats don't say my body, my choice anymore. They, they say I'm pro abortion. It's the craziest thing I've ever heard. And it's a psyop. It's a psyop.
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Keith McHenry
It's all a psyops. Or like you're supposed to buy a Tesla because you're a good liberal because you got to save the environment. Now you got to burn a Tesla because Elon Musk is ruining America. And you know, you can see, you know, it definitely just a continuation of the same imperialist, violent, oppressive system run by the oligarchs. So, you know, my grandfather in the oss, you know, was hired by an imaginary bunch of bankers and industrialists that he never told me about who they were, but he explained that's who he was working for. And his, his best friend was Curtis LeMay. And I used to hear watch him yell and scream at Curtis for not dropping the atomic bomb on Hanoi. He would be on the phone, he'd call up McNamara, you guys dropped the atomic bomb. He was like really, really into that. And, but, but he made it really clear that the whole, that they were not fighting for democracy. And, and this is when Curtis was like proposing to John F. Kennedy that they do a false flag against the malls and in, in Miami and blame it on Castro so they could invade. But he was involved in helping set up the Pearl harbor himself and talked all about how we needed to do Pearl Harbor. If we didn't do that, then the Americans wouldn't go to war against the Japanese. So these, you know, just like, remember the Maine or the Tonkin Bay incident, it's just endless array. And we're about to have some other thing, right? Probably to go to war with Iran.
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Jimmy Dore
That's exactly right.
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Keith McHenry
Yeah.
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Jimmy Dore
Yeah.
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Keith McHenry
And that's what right now, the name food not bombs. I'm, I've been hoping for the whole 45 years that the American we used to, when we, back when we started there was this thing called the Hundredth Monkey. And it was about how eventually the monkeys, There was some study, there was a book on it, the Hundredth Monkey. That the monkeys started washing their food all of a sudden like all over the world all at the same time. So I'm hoping the Words, Food Not Bombs people in America. And we, you know, we're suppressed in the media. You're, you know, essentially about the media of Food Not Bombs. I mean, my two shows with you pretty much it. A few people savvy and blackout Revolutionary blackout and stuff. But anyway, people can relate to that. You have a trillion dollar military budget, while I'm getting dozens of calls a week from seniors who have no food, who want me to drive to their place in rural America to feed them. And that went all through the Biden administration. Homelessness increased 32% under Biden.
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Jimmy Dore
Yep.
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Keith McHenry
And, and so really, if we have all these Americans and then we're starving the people in Gaza, you know, it's, it's, it's my latest substack, which is way too long, is Hunger is not a Game. It is not a game. People. I mean, if you meet people, I mean, when it's incredible, the amount of people that rush up to Food Not Bombs at the end of the day going, oh, you still got food. You guys still have food. I haven't eaten in three. You know, this is America. And we see all the food up on chapters all over America see the same thing. And thankfully, we're decentralized. We're probably in about 500 cities in the US but we stick together with our philosophy that the food is always free to anyone, rich or poor, drunk or sober, that we have no headquarters or, you know, presidents or anything like that. And that we're not a charity, and that's really key. We're not a charity. We're dedicated for taking nonviolent direct action to change society so no one has to live in the streets or eat at a soup kitchen. And if we can get that ideology, that mantra of Food not bombs to be in the hearts of all Americans and realize that all Americans actually really think that at the same time and somehow mobilize. So at the concert that we're doing in the park here, that's my main message. We need to organize against the wars, because that's getting outrageous. The military budget and the austerity programs that are coming down, and it very much reminds me of Reagan when we started, where the military budget went way up and he cut social services. And that's what inspired Food Not Bombs to get to be what it is today, 45 years later.
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Jimmy Dore
I mean, Trump came in saying he was going to cut the military budget by 50%. And, and of course, he's increasing it. All the money that Doge is claiming that they're going to save they're just taking that money and giving it straight to the war machine, which that's all that USAID was anyway. They were just a middleman from the war machine. They were just another CIA cutout. Same thing with the ned, National Endowment for Democracy. So all that money, they're not cutting it from the budget, they're just giving it to the military industrial contractor. They're giving it to Raytheon and Bors Allen and, and all the bomb makers. And so here's your T shirt at Food not bombs dot net. It's a great T shirt. There it is. Food not bombs.
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Eddie Pepitone
Oh, great.
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Keith McHenry
Thank you, dummy.
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Jimmy Dore
So everybody should grab a T shirt. And you're right. Maybe we can raise the consciousness of Americans. Foodnotbombs.net, get yourself a nice T shirt. Help out people who are really doing the work you're not wearing. Wear your pearl necklace. If you're supposed to be helping the homeless, you're supposed to have pearl necklaces. You're supposed to employ your brother in law at 5, $500,000 a year. You're not doing any of that.
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Keith McHenry
Yeah, I'm failing at being a good capitalist completely. But I'm making it on. My sale of the Anarchist Cookbook has been doing real well, relatively speaking. And I get Social Security, so I'm really fat on the hog. I'm getting a whole eleven hundred dollars a month. It's beautiful. And my food stamps, because I'm officially homeless, my food stamps are $83 a month. When I had a home. When I was officially had a home, my food stamps were 198amonth. It's weird. And I said to the woman that's like, well, why they go down so dramatically when you no longer have housing? And they go, I don't know, do.
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Jimmy Dore
You fat you fat cats at the bottom? I'm so, I'm so sick of you laughing at us all over a cup of noodles. Anyway, thank you so much, Jimmy. Keith McHenry. I appreciate you coming back on foodsnotbombs.net everybody. Check that out. We got to come together. Don't let the establishment divide us. It's us against them. It's not us against each other. Thanks for coming on, Keith.
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Keith McHenry
Thank you so much, Jimmy.
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Jimmy Dore
Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy door comedy.com Clicking on join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a Premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. Wall Street Apes tweets this video out. This is amazing. This is from May 21st. Democrats laundered so much money. So after Donald Trump, after Kamala lost and Donald Trump won the election, to when Joe Biden had to leave office officially and Donald Trump got inaugurated. You can't believe how much money the Department of Energy just. They just, it was. They were like just trying to get rid of money. They were just trying to funnel as much money as they could out of the federal government to their cronies.
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Unknown Speaker
Oh, the thing I said, because it was obvious that they were all trying to cash in on the most expensive campaign. Yes, she ran a great campaign. Well, she ran a billion dollar campaign, if that's what you mean.
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Jimmy Dore
So. So listen to this. They gave this money away with no oversight. Just like the money to Ukraine. No oversight. And that's how you know it's about helping people.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
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Jimmy Dore
So here we go. Watch this. This happened yesterday. Oh, hang on. My fault, my bad. Hang on.
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Unknown Speaker
We're still funding this crap too, by the way.
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Jimmy Dore
By the way, they're still funding Ukraine. Trump has not stopped funding Ukraine. Just so you know.
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Unknown Speaker
We're not stopping the funding. They're spending more money than they did before. Doge was fake. You cried about nothing. If you hate Elon, none of it's real.
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Jimmy Dore
None of it's real. That's right.
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Eddie Pepitone
Mr. Secretary, want to go back to some of your earlier testimony? Be sure I heard it correctly. The 76 day period you're talking about, that's the period between the time that President Trump was elected and President Biden left office, is that right?
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Unknown Speaker
That is correct.
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Eddie Pepitone
And during that short period of time, 76 days, how much taxpayer money went out the door of the Department of.
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Unknown Speaker
Energy from the Loan Program office in loans and commitments? $93 billion.
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Jimmy Dore
$93 billion. Imagine what you could do with $93 billion. They used to say you could end homelessness for $20 billion. But now it's a homelessness industrial complex where they never spend money to actually help the people. It just goes right in their grifting pockets.
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Unknown Speaker
Oh, I know. We could buy 93 billion, like about three days worth of cocaine for Zelensky.
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Jimmy Dore
Imagine if they took a Billion dollars and gave it to the top 93 cities in America and said hey, here's a billion dollars Los Angeles. Why don't you go do something crazy like buy 10,000 fire trucks and fill them with water? Something crazy like that.
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Unknown Speaker
That's untested, Jim.
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Jimmy Dore
Here's a billion dollars. Imagine if they gave a billion dollars to St. Louis and Minneapolis and Sacramento and Chicago and New York and New Jersey and, and it would be stolen.
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Unknown Speaker
It wouldn't go anywhere. I'm just a problem. But you can't do that because they're all corrupted.
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Jimmy Dore
Please let me make my point. Don't ruin it. The point is imagine if we actually had that money and we spent it on things that we needed. Imagine if we actually did that. Imagine how many schools you could build. Imagine if every. You know what you could do with a $93 billion. You could build 93 brand new sports stadiums. Imagine all the jobs that would create so you could knock down the old ones and build brand new ones. It would take a couple of years. Look, mention all the jobs that would create in each city. Imagine. How about it just, just what we could do. We could, we could build houses for the homeless. $93 billion we could build at every. It's gave it to the top 93 cities. A billion dollar say go build housing. They just imagine. But here's what they did do with it. By the way. No oversight. And that's just in a 76 day period. Do you understand the level of corruption inside your government? There you go.
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Unknown Speaker
Well over twice as much as in the previous 15 years.
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Eddie Pepitone
So how do you vet and do due diligence on a loan in 76 days? One loan, much less $93 billion. How do you do it?
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Unknown Speaker
I think it's pretty clear it wasn't done in many cases. As I mentioned. Yeah, I'm told I'm holding back. Clearly in place stuff. There was lots of funds that have gone out the door and commitments that were made from businesses that provided no business plan, no numbers about their own financial solvency or how this project.
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Eddie Pepitone
So you're telling me that the Department of energy in the 76 day period before their boss was going to leave office gave our loan money to entities that had no business plan.
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Unknown Speaker
Correct.
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Eddie Pepitone
No financials.
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Unknown Speaker
Correct. A number of those were not before the 76 day period as well. That's, that's. I've come in with great concern about how this institution, this great American institution has been run and how American taxpayer money has been handled. I'm sorry, everyone's upset that we're taking some time to do it, but what we've seen.
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Eddie Pepitone
I'm not upset. Could it be that a lot of people say you haven't returned your calls. Could it be that you and your colleagues have returned the calls, but the people call and just didn't like the answer? Could that be a possibility?
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Unknown Speaker
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not aware of that. You know, I give my cell phone number to any senator that I return my calls.
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Eddie Pepitone
I mean, is your, is your department gone dark? Somebody said your department's gone dark. Is it dark over there?
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Unknown Speaker
It doesn't look dark behind me.
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Eddie Pepitone
I don't see any of you sitting on your hands. Somebody made that charge. I see everybody's hands. Let me ask you something else, Mr. Secretary. Does anybody ever come to the Department of Energy to get some of this free money and lie to you?
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Unknown Speaker
I have not experienced that, but I think it's a reasonable assumption that that has happened.
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Eddie Pepitone
Does anybody ever come to you or is it conceivable that some of these folks that heard about this free money came to you with a half baked idea?
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Unknown Speaker
I think it's very conceivable. In fact, I've seen such plants that were half baked would be terrible that.
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Eddie Pepitone
Didn'T have a business plan, right?
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Unknown Speaker
Correct. I promise to develop one to find a location.
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Eddie Pepitone
Give me the money and I'll develop the plan later.
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Unknown Speaker
Correct.
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Jimmy Dore
So the people the word get went out, hey, go to the Department of Energy, tell them you got some half baked plan or you don't even have a plan yet and they're going to give you money. How much? How that 93 billion in a 76 day period that they're just going to give it to you in the form of a loan and then your business could just go bankrupt and go, we don't have any money to pay you back.
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Unknown Speaker
Wow, how big a deal that is the Department of Energy, the stuff that they have control over. I think he played a clip of Stephen Colbert going back when Covid happened and the Department of Energy weighed in on whether it came from a lab. Remember that?
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Jimmy Dore
Oh, remember that?
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Unknown Speaker
He goes, oh, bad Department of Energy. You handle energy pretty clear. They handle probably everything up to UFOs. That's how you know how bad this corruption is.
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Eddie Pepitone
Something else.
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Jimmy Dore
Department Energy, let me ask you, go ahead.
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Unknown Speaker
Department of Energy, Department of Energy handles. That's military, industrial complex, hardcore deep state stuff. The Department of Energy, it's not just the Department of Energy, it's every fake America.
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Jimmy Dore
Right So the people who are running things are just there. It's just how empires. And they're looting the Treasury. That's what this is. They're looting, and they're doing it right in the budget. Right. So Trump comes out, hey, I got $175 billion. We're going to do a dome for a missile defense that we don't need. And it isn't going to work. So that doesn't. It's not the point if it's going to work or if we need it. The point is, hey, we're looting the Treasury. We're sucking the money. It's just like, remember in goodfellas, where they, they invested in the restaurant and they would bring the booze and stuff in the front door and they'd take it right out the back door. And then when the place collapsed financially, they just burned it down for the insurance money. That's what they're doing to the United States right now, like California. And it's both.
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Unknown Speaker
Palestine.
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Jimmy Dore
It's both of them. It's both parties. It's not just, it's not just Joe Biden, it's not just Donald Trump. It's the Republicans and it's the Unit Party. And that's why they won't. That's why the budget that they just passed in the House, it ramps up the debt. All that Doge stuff, all, all bullshit. And that's why they're. They're increasing the debt. They're not. But, but they will cut some health care from you and they will cut some Social Security, but they're not going to actually cut the Pentagon. They're going to increase it. They're going to increase the debt. So. And that's. And that's more of what this is. Let's watch. Look, there's a little bit more of this.
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Eddie Pepitone
Something else. Mr. Secretary.
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Unknown Speaker
Does.
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Eddie Pepitone
Does anybody ever come to the Department of Energy to get some of this free money and lie to you?
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Jimmy Dore
Yeah. Okay.
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Eddie Pepitone
Let me have a business plan. Right.
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Unknown Speaker
Correct. I promise to develop one to find.
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Eddie Pepitone
A location, the money, and I'll develop the plan later.
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Unknown Speaker
Correct.
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Eddie Pepitone
And, and now you're going back through. Not money that's already been contracted, but you're going back through and checking each one of these loans and these grants to make sure there was no stealing, aren't you? We are. We make sure there was no incompetence, aren't you? Is that correct?
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Unknown Speaker
We're looking at that. And, yeah. My blood pressure is rising right now just thinking about what we have seen and what did happen?
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Eddie Pepitone
And you're going to tell some of these boondoggles no, aren't you?
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Unknown Speaker
That's correct.
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Eddie Pepitone
And they're going to be upset, aren't they?
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Unknown Speaker
That's correct.
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Eddie Pepitone
And they ought to be upset, shouldn't they?
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Unknown Speaker
I don't think they should be upset. I think they should be ashamed.
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Eddie Pepitone
I am. It's rare that I'm speechless, but I want to be sure I understood. The people running the Department of Energy for President Biden's administration shoveled $93 billion. Not million, $93 billion out the door in 76 days. And it just happened to be the time between when President Trump was elected and President Biden, their boss, was leaving. Is that right?
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Unknown Speaker
It is. Correct. And distasteful confidence, undermining.
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Eddie Pepitone
My God. Look, I hope you take whatever time you need to go through all of these projects penny by penny. I mean, I've heard this testimony today. Well, it'll cost jobs in my state if somebody steals $50 million and goes and spends the money in their state. That's. That's going to stimulate the economy, isn't it?
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Unknown Speaker
Yes, it will.
- [36:14]
Eddie Pepitone
But that's still stealing in it. And it's still illegal, isn't it?
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Unknown Speaker
Yes.
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Eddie Pepitone
I mean, they were spending money at the Department of Energy like it was ditch water. Their budget went from $60 billion to $160 billion since fiscal year 2021. It just sounds to me like. Like there were a lot of people coming to the Department of Energy who had all four feet and their snout in the trough. And I hope if you. I hope you'll turn down the boondoggles and refer the thieves to the Department of Justice.
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Unknown Speaker
We will indeed, Senator. The one complication in there, too, is mixed in. There are good companies doing good things honestly with credible plans.
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Eddie Pepitone
And you're trying to shuffle a week from the chat.
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Unknown Speaker
Yes, that's what we're trying to do. That's our job and we're doing it.
- [36:51]
Eddie Pepitone
But there's.
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Unknown Speaker
There's a lot of chaff.
- [36:52]
Eddie Pepitone
Let me ask you one final question. Let me go back to how many employees you have now. There have been some allegations today that you've. You've cut tens of thousands of employees. Is that accurate?
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Unknown Speaker
Well, I think the allegations were thousands, and we. Our headcount will ultimately be reduced by thousands, but we are doing it.
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Eddie Pepitone
You got 16,000 now?
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Unknown Speaker
Yes.
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Eddie Pepitone
And you think you can do it with fewer than 16,000?
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Unknown Speaker
Correct.
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Eddie Pepitone
What's wrong with that?
- [37:13]
Unknown Speaker
I think it's just common sense. Business.
- [37:14]
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah. Businesses do it every Day in the.
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Unknown Speaker
Real world, America, taxpayers deserve it.
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Eddie Pepitone
That's never happened in the federal government. I mean, it's easier to divorce your spouse than to get rid of a federal employee up here. That's not the way the world works, is it, Mr. Secretary?
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Unknown Speaker
It's not the way the world should work. And I give enormous credit to President Trump, who had the boldness to say, if there's a right thing that needs to be done and it's difficult, please do it. And so, yes, this is new territory. This is not what happens normally in the federal government, but it is what needs to happen periodically in the federal government. And I give the credit to President Trump, who's willing to take the heat and has set the departments free, make the changes you need to make to better serve American taxpayers and American consumers. And across his administration, that's what's being done.
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Eddie Pepitone
All right.
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Jimmy Dore
And then, of course, he's going to take all that money we save and give it to the military industrial complex, and he actually is going to give you even more. So he's going to actually spend more than Joe Biden.
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Unknown Speaker
He's very proud of it.
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Jimmy Dore
Very proud. He's very. He's got this big, beautiful. He's, he's got the. He's got the. He's got the guts to do it. He's got the stones to do it. Donald Trump, you mean the stones to do the exact opposite of what he said he was going to do and actually increase the budget of the Pentagon. Remember, he came in and he said, we're going to cut the Pentagon budget 50%. 50%. I'm going to talk to China. I'm going to talk to Russia and say, hey, what are we doing this to ourselves for? We're not. We don't want to fight each other. We want to make trade. Let's all reduce our military spending 50%. That was such a. That was.
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Unknown Speaker
Sounded sweet, didn't it?
- [38:32]
Jimmy Dore
It sounded sweet. I was excited.
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Unknown Speaker
Well, Jimmy, look, I don't put it on Trump. The president is not in that kind of control. The whole thing's fake. Your vote doesn't count how many times you have to see it. It doesn't count before you, before you realize your vote doesn't count. And it's designed that way on purpose.
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Jimmy Dore
But there's some people out there, Kurt, honestly. Well, I see him on Twitter because that's the only social media I go on. But they're actually, they still believe that Donald Trump is trying to cut the budget. It's like, no, he's he's pushing through a budget that ramps up the military spend. The Pentagon, which is just grift. They can't pass an audit. He didn't send Doge over to the Pentagon. That was all on purp.
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Unknown Speaker
They're not. They don't have to hide. They don't have to hide this stuff. And they're not even stuff I know is public.
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Jimmy Dore
Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
You're not going to look. They. The whole thing rests on. I just want to keep my head down and do my job. The refrain of the American cow. And they go ahead and say it out loud. Cow.
- [39:30]
Jimmy Dore
And they think. They think the reason why we have such a ballooning deficit is because of illegal people with no power. The people on the lowest rung of the social ladder. Illegal immigrants. Ukraine and Israel and all those fat cats at the bottom of the Golden Dome.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah, they're fat eating Oreos on my dime, Jimmy. That's money that Israel could use to kill the rest of those Arabs and take their shit.
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Jimmy Dore
Just, just think about the 25 billion Trump's putting in the budget to go for the Golden Dome. That's just this year. So take the top 20, top, top 10 cities in America. You give them all $2 billion. Hey, build, build. Homeless build, build or build anything. Build. Anything you want. Here's $2 billion. Build it.
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Unknown Speaker
Remember manage decline, the supposed conspiracy term that someone said to the Iron lady over in England about some town, like, better let it just burn down.
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Jimmy Dore
Mm.
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Unknown Speaker
What's her name? I'm forgetting? Thatcher.
- [40:31]
Jimmy Dore
Thatcher, that's right.
- [40:32]
Unknown Speaker
And that's a real thing someone said to her and people suggested that it was happening during Obama's term. This is managed decline. And I never bothered to look into what that word meant. But that's what we're in.
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Jimmy Dore
That's what we're in.
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Unknown Speaker
They can never pay back the debt. Just everybody knows they stole so much money. And whatever you think the debt is, it's way worse than that. They can never tell you the truth about anything. All they can do is keep this going as long as possible. They go in a bunker when you find out.
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Jimmy Dore
And the budget that Trump and the Republicans are pushing through right now is going to increase the debt by trillions of dollars. At the same time, they're going to be cutting health care from MAGA workers. That's. And for old people in old folks homes, in nursing homes. And yes, they're going to also take it away from. I guess there's some way that illegal. Some illegal immigrants get some. Yeah, that's all but it's all. The majority of it's coming out of workers.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah. How about people we send money to don't even bother to show up here? We just send it to them forever. For some reason, I don't want to name any names because I don't want to be labeled a slur. But you know who I'm talking about.
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Jimmy Dore
By the way. So someone, make no mistake, if you screamed Free Palestine, you helped pull the trigger. But if you. By the way, that's a Miss Miss Israel. That's Miss Miss Universe Israel. 2021 said that.
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Unknown Speaker
Wow.
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So they do have Jews that aren't smart.
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Jimmy Dore
So you have to say. So if you can't say free pet. So it's so having literally did not do that. So you can't. You can't have. You can't have a free Palestine. So Brianna Joy Gray says, okay, make no mistake, if you're a Zionist, you help murder 200,000 Palestinians.
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Unknown Speaker
I mean, it's not even a close score if you're going to be that much of a psychopath to keep score. I've never said free Palestine ever in my life because I'm afraid it encourages Israel to take more Palestine. So I don't believe you should say that.
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Jimmy Dore
So here's Dana Bash and here's what she says. So again, advocating for the palpit. So they have to equate Zionism with Jews, which they're not the same thing. Lots of Jews are against Zionism. In fact, the most hardcore religious Jews there are are against Zionism. But they have to conflate that. And they also have to conflate Free, free Palestine with anti Semitism.
- [42:53]
Unknown Speaker
America first, Christ is king. You have to conflate those things. Whatever. Doesn't the Judeo Christian values, you know that nonsense term Abrahamic values is what they mean. They want to exclude Muslims from that.
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Jimmy Dore
Everything could be. So let's listen to Dana Bash.
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Unknown Speaker
You just heard the alleged killer saying free Palestine. We hear that on the streets. We hear that on college campuses. And there are a lot of people who feel. Who have been worried that that has been turned into a call to arms and a call to action and violence.
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Keith McHenry
Yes.
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Unknown Speaker
We're gonna need more censorship.
- [43:29]
Jimmy Dore
We're gonna need more censorship. You can't advocate for freedom. I love this. Everything to them could be misconstrued to be violence against Jews.
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Unknown Speaker
Woke right. That's what the woke right does. That's the woke right.
- [43:45]
Jimmy Dore
I'll take a bagel with no locks, please. No locks. Oy vey.
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Unknown Speaker
I wish I Knew what? A new to show.
- [43:52]
Jimmy Dore
I meant me too.
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Unknown Speaker
That's pretty funny.
- [43:54]
Jimmy Dore
It sounds funny. Let's see. Let's. So you can't say free Palestine. You can't say free Palestine now because that. This has got to be the craziest thing. So this is the most Zionist unhinged Zionism that CNN has done so far. I think that's it.
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Unknown Speaker
So I'll do a 9 11. They're trying another false flag, by the way. I don't believe any of them.
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Jimmy Dore
Right.
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Unknown Speaker
They're doing another 911. And so now it's time. The time is not to reason through this. The time is to be irrational, like that black kid that stabbed the white kid, that they run that endlessly. It's time to take a racial stand and lose all rationality.
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Jimmy Dore
Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
How. How long can you do the same trick on people? I'm dumb. I fell for 9 11. 20 years later. I can't fall for the same thing again. I apologize to Dana Bash.
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Others claim that it's not. What do you think now that we have seen this?
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I think there's no question. Whatever its initial intent, whatever people question initially or meant, it, it has become a call for violence. And not violence against Israelis, which is wrong, but violence against Jews. And anybody who tries to separate.
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Jimmy Dore
Anybody who tries to separate and try.
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Unknown Speaker
To say, oh, I'm just against Palestine. I'm just, you know, against Israel's policies in Palestine or in Gaza. And I'm not anti Semitic. This was anti Semitism, pure and simple. That he happened to have killed two Israeli staff members. Didn't matter. It was a Jewish event. They were targets.
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This, as you know, better than most, hardly happened in a vacuum. You know, things are happening so often that we often. Sometimes we become numb to it.
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Jimmy Dore
You mean like the slaughter of children in Gaza? You mean like that? Isn't it amazing? That's amazing.
- [45:44]
Unknown Speaker
Sometimes I've been numb to it my whole life. We've been in a war, killing millions of people as long as I've been alive.
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Jimmy Dore
How about sometimes? And so, by the way, so a lot of Jews say free Palestine. So are they calling for violence against themselves? I don't think so.
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Unknown Speaker
Send him to El Salvador. Jimmy. I say, you know what I say?
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Yeah, it normalized. Exactly. So let's not participate in that and let's just give some of the examples. In just the past few months, we have seen, we saw a man arrested for allegedly planning a mass shooting at a New York Jewish center Tel Aviv restaurant stabbing. The perpetrator arrived from the US Then. This is just again, the past several months, a man arrested for making terrorist threats to a Manhattan synagogue. The Berlin Holocaust Memorial. There was a stabbing there and then, of course, an arson attack at Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's.
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Jimmy Dore
What do you have every day? What?
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Unknown Speaker
That's not even close to the crime regular Americans have every day. Not Israeli dignitaries. Everybody that lives here. The crime. I moved out of la. Cause of crime rate like that.
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Jimmy Dore
That.
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Unknown Speaker
How would you even rank that?
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Jimmy Dore
That is. It's unbelievable. And it's unbelievable that she's doing this against the backdrop of tens of thousands. I mean, they killed 900 people since this morning. Today it's a quarter in Gaza.
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Unknown Speaker
Quarter million. A quarter million.
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Jimmy Dore
At least it's up. It's up there. Some. Some estimates are that they've killed a quarter million Palestinians. But definitely, for sure, 50,000. And definitely they killed 900 since this morning. Till today. Till. Till I'm doing this show. They have to go to the. Look, it's like the equivalent of a hangnail. They're screaming about in the middle of a war zone. This is.
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Unknown Speaker
Jimmy. Can you imagine?
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Jimmy Dore
So if they lose, just like you said, Kurt, if they lose anti Semitism, this. This thing that is mostly made up and fake. If you. If they can't throw that around all over the place, then it's just over. Israel's over.
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Unknown Speaker
It's their fuel source.
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Jimmy Dore
Yes.
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Unknown Speaker
Zionism needs anti SEM, just like BLM needed. When they couldn't find racism, they had to find like a rope someone tied in a garage and say it's loose.
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Jimmy Dore
Yeah. Remember that.
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Unknown Speaker
The fuel for their nonsense. This falls, by the way. This is lame. I lived through 9, 11. I was there. I already been through the trauma of like, oh, my God, terror. This ain't cutting it, toots. Sorry.
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Jimmy Dore
Let's see what else they say. This is so stupid.
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Unknown Speaker
Your whole life has been dedicated to education, but education seems to not even be close to enough education.
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You can be a PhD and an SOP at the same time. You can be well educated. Look, the first people to support Hitler in Nazi Germany, amongst the first were the university professors. They got on board right away. So education, of course I believe in education. I wouldn't be doing education and working in that and trying to educate people. People if I didn't believe it. But it's not a magic bullet. We also have to inculcate whether you're educated, whether you have years of postgraduate education or none at all. This is wrong. There is no but when it comes to killing people. Because of their ethnic religious heritage.
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Jimmy Dore
It's like they're saying it into a mirror. It's like they're describing themselves. Did I just show you the guy who said we have to slaughter all the Palestinians because it's their culture we have to get rid of?
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Unknown Speaker
We got to knock ourselves out. You don't. Here's what I'm going to say. Palestine, don't use my fucking money to do your crimes. How about that? You pay. Get your billionaires that live here, that don't live in Israel because it's not safe. It's just them to pay.
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Jimmy Dore
I mean this is. At one level, it's just, it's truly remarkable. It's the, it's the lack of self awareness to the extreme that I've never seen. It's like they're describing everything Israel's doing and pretending that's what the people opposed to Zionism are doing. It's a, it's just amazing. They're literally CNN demographic according to, According to every human rights organization, the International Criminal Court, the un. They're, they're committing a genocide and they're an apartheid state.
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Unknown Speaker
Did you see what I texted you?
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Jimmy Dore
What, just now?
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Unknown Speaker
No, because one of the first people to collaborate with Hitler were the university. No, they weren't. They were the first people he killed. But the first people to collaborate with Hitler were the Zionists. There's a coin minted with a star of David on one side and a Swazi on the other side. So the first early adopters to suck up to Hitler were Zionists. That's a fact.
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Jimmy Dore
Ah, let's see what else. It's just, this is really. I'm playing this because this is just. I haven't ever seen anything like this.
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Unknown Speaker
Well, it's only for like three viewers, Jimmy. Let's face it.
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Yeah, there is no but when it comes to raping women in God.
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Yeah, there is no but. It didn't. It didn't happen.
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Jimmy Dore
She even did. She even didn't happen. Well, she even did her 40 and slip. There is no buts when it comes to raping women in Gaza. Oh, you mean like we have the video of the Israelis raping the people in the prison? We have it.
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Unknown Speaker
And protesting in favor of letting them. And then the Israeli man on man, by the way, it's not like.
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Jimmy Dore
So then when they arrested those people who did the Israelis who did the raping that we have on video, then the Israelis then went and protested to let the rapers out?
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Unknown Speaker
Well, Kabad, Lubovitch, scumbags from Likud and all those psychos that prop Bibi up. The way Trump's propped up by the Adelson widow. Bibi has even worse people propping him up and he's going to jail unless he does everything.
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Jimmy Dore
That's right. That's exactly why he's doing all this.
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Unknown Speaker
In the area next to Gaza on October 7, there is no but about kidnapping children because they happen to be Jews.
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Jimmy Dore
What about when you kidnap children because they happen to be Palestinian and you keep them and you starve them and you keep them in prison? There are way thousands of Palestinian children have been kidnapped and put in prison in Israel. This is, it's just amazing.
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Unknown Speaker
You know, you should have ran your yaps about Putin so much.
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Jimmy Dore
Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
Does it form quite a contrast with your. Putin's a pussycat compared to these people, ain't he?
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Jimmy Dore
Is this, this is like double stand standards on, on steroids and meth and heroin. I mean it's like, it is like astronomical, the crazy double standards they have.
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Unknown Speaker
I only know she's lying scum. I want to reiterate because Jews told.
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Jimmy Dore
Jews told me.
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Unknown Speaker
I'm a good person who's prejudiced against Muslims, as you should be. I would never listen to an Arab about what the Israelis did. Jews ratted you out, bitch. So that's why I know you're a liar. I listen to Jews.
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There is no but this is unacceptable. Irrespective of how you feel about Israeli policies, irrespective of how you feel about, about the Israeli government. This is wrong and there should be a universal outcry.
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Ok, There is on CNN right now. And me, I wasn't. I'm sure that chick was working outreach to Gaza and that's why the scum pig IDF or whatever group unit, whatever picked her as the same way. They use the Holocaust shamelessly. It's called Holocaust. That means sacrifice by fire. People like her sacrifice their own people by fire to get their little power trip. That's a human sacrifice that these scumbag Zionists did to Jews.
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Jimmy Dore
So I don't know if you saw, but Tim Dillon did an interview with CNN and this, this interviewer is something else. She's as one commenter said she's 44 and she sounds like she's 20 years old. But anyway, this could be called Tim Dillon teaches. Oh, somebody else in the comments said this is Tim Dillon sounds like Tim Dillon explaining the world to his 20 year old niece. So let's just listen to it. This is from joke world. It's the full 70 minute Tim Dillon interview that was recorded over a month ago but did not get released right away because they wanted to edit the footage. And after watching the entire thing, it's.
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Unknown Speaker
Pretty clear why Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, left wing critics of the Bush administration and of the Iraq war. Why do you think that style of comedy has fallen away?
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J
Has it?
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I mean, according to the people who work for them. Yeah.
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J
I think John Stewart is still very popular and goes viral all the time saying interesting things.
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Jimmy Dore
Right.
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Unknown Speaker
The Daily show gets the same kind of audience.
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J
I don't think the Daily show does, but I think Jon Stewart. Because you, I mean, you brought up Jon Stewart. It. So why. Well, that's a story of why traditional media has just declined that comedy. There's very, very successful comedians that are left of center. Comedians?
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Unknown Speaker
Like who?
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J
I mean, what do you mean? Like who? Chelsea Handler, I think John Mulaney, probably. I think that you would find Sarah Silverman, I think Bill Burr, Louis C.K. he's, he's never voted for a Republican in his life.
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Jimmy Dore
Why?
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J
Because he's an imperfect person. These are massively successful comedians. They're all more successful than I am and there's nothing wrong with that. And they're left leaning comedian. Is there this idea that like they're not around or you can't find them? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
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Unknown Speaker
No, no, no. But there's not this cultural energy, Kimmel. But all those people who have the kind of like left wing shows like Amy Schumer and Michelle Wolf, those have all been canceled. All the shows are cancelled.
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J
Well, but there'll be new ones. There'll be new ones. I mean, do you not have the faith? Do you think there's going to be no left wing comedy?
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Unknown Speaker
I don't see like a little ecosystem or like a galaxy.
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Jimmy Dore
A galaxy.
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Unknown Speaker
I mean you might dispute this, but like in the sort of right of.
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J
Center, there's a galaxy.
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Jimmy Dore
Galaxy.
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Unknown Speaker
Right. There's Rogan and all this stuff.
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J
Again, is Trevor Noah, not Pav does Arenas.
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Jimmy Dore
He's an arena comedian.
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J
He's one of the most popular comedians in the country. Hassan Minaj, Ronny Chang, these guys are all left wing and they're all really funny, really popular comics who I'm friends with in life.
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Unknown Speaker
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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J
I don't think this is, this thing's happening. Whatever everyone thinks happening, I don't think is happening. This idea that like, like left wing cop, like where are they, where are they? Where are they to be found? Where's Amy Schumer, I don't know. She's in her 15 million dollar townhouse in Brooklyn. I think she'll be okay.
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Unknown Speaker
CNN finally released the full 70 minutes.
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Jimmy Dore
So this is this kind of crazy narrative they're trying to push that. Oh, it's all right wing comedy. Like, what are you talking about? Where, where is it coming from? This. There's no, there's no universe and galaxy for. Because Joe Rogan has a popular show, by the way. Joe Rogan is a traditional liberal. He supported Bernie Sanders. He said he would vote for aoc and then the Democrats became authoritarian fascists. So it's funny now. If you oppose the Ukraine war, you're considered right wing. If you oppose medical mandates of experimental drugs, you're considered right wing. I thought my body, my choice made you a left wing. Well, if you're my body, my choice, you're now a right winger. So people who used to say my body, my choice, now they don't say that anymore because they don't mean it because therefore mandating experimental medical treatments to everybody or you can't go to work. They say, I'm pro abortion, which is the craziest thing I've ever heard. But they say it, they say it with a straight face. So it. So all these. So this idea that, oh, there's no left. Yeah, they, the thing that used to be left, they just call them right wing now because the Democrats have become authoritarian fascists. Being for free speech. That, that used to be a lefty thing. Criticizing Big Pharma. That used to be almost exclusively a purview of left liberals. It's all over. So all these things that. So that's why they call people like Joe Rogan a right winger and they call people like me a right winger and Matt Taibbi. Why? Because he's for free speech. He's for the First Amendment. Oh, you must be a right winger. And you notice how she's. You notice how she whispered? She whispers when she talks? All those shows have been canceled. You mean two shows are no longer on the air? Two shows. Every late night talk show, except for the Fox News one. It's completely in the tank for the Democratic Party. I'm not going to call them liberal. I'm not going to call them lefties because they're neither of those things. They're for the establishment Democratic Party. And if you don't, if you haven't figured it out, the establishment Democratic Party is anti worker and pro war and pro censorship and anti free speech and anti bodily autonomy. And pro Big Pharma. I don't know if you caught you noticed that they're not left or liberal. The Democratic Party are authoritarian fascists. I hope that word doesn't get overused too much, but it probably doesn't mean anything to hear the word fascist anymore because they've overused it so much. But that's what that is. So good for Tim Dillon and I. I. What I encourage everyone to do is to go read the comment section under the full interview because it's hilarious. Let's. Let's read some of the comments just under this little clip. Let's see. This chick drank a full bottle of Nyquil before this interview. She seems like a bad choice for this interview. She has to be one of the most insufferable interviewers I've ever seen. Holy f. Props to Tim for even being willing to talk to this person for 70 minutes. She's unbearable. Her entire demeanor is just oozing. Keep talking. But I'm taking nothing. You say serious. Even though my face my factual. They are factual and dispute my point. Tim cannot be questioned by amateurs. She is insufferable and and her take in her first day on the job and she goes done smoking weed with Teddy Bear and Mark Wahlberg. Timmy D broke her down gently. She has no real rebuttal. I hate the way she talks that whisper. She wasn't ready for Dylan and was completely out of her depth 100%. I love that. So she's just in that bubble. She doesn't. She's never heard someone push back on that idea that, oh, there's no more liberal comedians. She's never heard anybody. What is she. I can't even believe what she's thinking about because, you know, like you're saying that every late night talk show host couldn't be more in the tank for the Democratic Party. I mean, they've never said a harsh word about Joe Biden ever. Ever.
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Unknown Speaker
That's so unlike when I was growing.
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Up and watching from snl.
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Jimmy Dore
From SNL to the late night talk shows to to Daily Show. I love this. This is one of my favorite comments. It says her demeanor is that of an SNL skit. She literally looks and sounds like someone is doing an impression of her, but it's just her being herself, like that's the kind of thing you would do. You would act like she's acting if you were doing it satirically to try to make fun of her. But she's already a joke. The reason CNN waited so long to release this interview isn't because of Tim Dillon. It's because of this woman. When the edible kicks in. But you still have an important interview to do. She's like a. She's like a snobby therapist that is judging you and making wild assumptions about your life. They chose their weakest mind to interview Tim anyway, so I'm nervous about doing this interview. Here, take this whole prescription of Xanax. So anyway, great job by Tim. And CNN is a joke. Hey, become a premium member. Go to jimmy door comedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business.
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Keith McHenry
Freak out.
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Jimmy Dore
Don't freak out. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McCray. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be and I'll keep being me. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Do not freak out. I'm not kidding. Do not.
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Unknown Speaker
Do not.
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Jimmy Dore
Freak out. Do not freak out.