Ice Levels Dramatically INCREASE In Antarctica!

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Jimmy Dore Show – "Ice Levels Dramatically INCREASE In Antarctica!"

Release Date: May 9, 2025
Host: Jimmy Dore
Co-Host: [Unnamed]
Guest: Tony Heller (Climate Scientist)

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1. Introduction to Antarctic Ice Increase [00:57 - 01:10]

Jimmy Dore kicks off the episode by highlighting a surprising development in climate science: recent studies indicate a significant increase in Antarctic ice levels over the past few years. He sets the stage for a critical examination of mainstream climate narratives.

2. Unexpected Antarctic Ice Gain [01:10 - 03:55]

Dore introduces his guest, Tony Heller, a climate scientist who challenges conventional corporate news narratives.

• Jimmy Dore [01:10]: "There's more ice now in Antarctica than there was five years ago."
• Co-Host [01:12]: "Oh, that's an inconvenient truth."

Heller presents historical data suggesting the Earth entered a cooling period around the 15th century, warming significantly around 1890, leading to increased crops and population until a subsequent cooling trend began post-1945. Dore argues that the recent Antarctic ice gain contradicts established climate models, emphasizing that these models failed to predict such changes.

• Jimmy Dore [02:50]: "Climate change is all based on models. So they don't know. They didn't predict. Nobody predicted this."

3. Critique of Climate Change Models [03:55 - 08:41]

The discussion delves deeper into the reliability of climate models, with Dore asserting that the unexpected ice gains undermine the validity of these models and the broader climate change narrative.

• Jimmy Dore [04:41]: "So Antarctica is actually increasing its mass of ice. Are you trying to tell me that all the leading scientists were not only wrong but identically wrong?"

He further highlights increased plant growth due to higher atmospheric carbon, questioning the negative portrayal of carbon emissions.

• Jimmy Dore [04:39]: "There's more plants than ever because of the increase in carbon in the atmosphere."

4. Historical Climate Trends and Skepticism [08:41 - 14:54]

Dore references a Washington Post study showing Earth’s climate over the last 485 million years, emphasizing long-term cooling trends and arguing that current climate concerns are overstated.

• Jimmy Dore [14:21]: "We're in a cooling period. This is what we are now."

He encourages skepticism towards the prevailing climate narrative, suggesting that prominent figures and institutions are either hypocritical or deceitful about climate issues.

5. Anti-Zionist Jews in Jerusalem [27:19 - 38:00]

The conversation shifts to geopolitical issues, specifically the plight of anti-Zionist Jews in Jerusalem. A field reporter's account is presented, detailing the suppression and persecution of these individuals by Israeli authorities.

• Field Reporter [27:53]: "Zionists are not Jews anymore. They stole the Palestinian land."

Dore and the co-host express solidarity with the anti-Zionist protesters, condemning Israeli actions and labeling them as ethnic cleansing.

• Jimmy Dore [29:54]: "These are Jews beating other Jews. These are Zionist Jews beating Hasidic Jews."

6. Bioweapons and COVID-19 Origins [40:00 - 43:35]

Dore shifts focus to conspiracy theories surrounding the origins of COVID-19, alleging that gain-of-function research funded by the NIH at the Wuhan Institute of Virology led to the pandemic. He criticizes Dr. Anthony Fauci and the federal government's handling of such research.

• Jimmy Dore [41:22]: "Donald Trump has signed an executive order banning gain of function research. It's not research, it's experiments."

He references a congressional hearing where Dr. Fauci was unable to retract statements denying NIH funding for gain-of-function studies in Wuhan, reinforcing his stance on government deception.

7. US Foreign Policy and Potential Conflicts [50:07 - 64:43]

The episode further explores US foreign policy, particularly the potential for military action against Iran. Former Congressman Dennis Kucinich discusses the dangers and historical precedents of such actions, advocating for diplomatic solutions over warfare.

• Dennis Kucinich [57:54]: "If you bomb a nuclear reactor, radiation spreads everywhere."

Dore criticizes both Democratic and Republican approaches to foreign conflicts, emphasizing the destructive consequences of military interventions.

8. Conclusion and Final Remarks [64:00 - End]

Jimmy Dore wraps up the episode by reiterating his skepticism towards mainstream climate science and geopolitical narratives. He encourages listeners to question authority and stay informed through independent research.

• Jimmy Dore [64:01]: "Don't freak out. Do not freak out."

He ends with promotions for premium membership and other podcast-related content, maintaining his characteristic blend of humor and critique.

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Key Takeaways:

• Antarctic Ice Increase: Challenging the reliability of climate models with recent data showing unexpected ice mass gain.
• Climate Change Skepticism: Long-term historical climate trends suggest natural cooling periods, questioning the severity of current climate change narratives.
• Geopolitical Issues: Highlighting the persecution of anti-Zionist Jews in Jerusalem and condemning Israeli policies as ethnic cleansing.
• Conspiracy Theories: Allegations that gain-of-function research funded by the NIH contributed to the COVID-19 pandemic, criticizing governmental transparency.
• US Foreign Policy Critique: Opposing military interventions, particularly against Iran, advocating for peaceful and diplomatic solutions.

Notable Quotes:

• Jimmy Dore [01:10]: "There's more ice now at Antarctica than there was five years ago."
• Co-Host [01:12]: "Oh, that's an inconvenient truth."
• Jimmy Dore [04:41]: "So Antarctica is actually increasing its mass of ice. Are you trying to tell me that all the leading scientists were not only wrong but identically wrong?"
• Dennis Kucinich [57:54]: "If you bomb a nuclear reactor, radiation spreads everywhere."
• Jimmy Dore [64:01]: "Don't freak out. Do not freak out."

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Disclaimer: This summary reflects the opinions and statements presented in the podcast episode. For a comprehensive understanding, listeners are encouraged to engage with the full content directly.

Transcript

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[Jimmy Dore]

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[Dennis Kucinich]

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[Jimmy Dore]

Medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on the Jimmy Door Show. So this is going to surprise a lot of people. There's more ice now at the Antarctica than there was five years ago.

[Co-host]

Oh, that's an inconvenient truth.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here's a friend of the show we've had him on, Tony Heller. He's a climate, he's a scientist heretic because he tells you a corner narrative to what you're being told by the corporate news. And all I know is that the corporate news has lied about every major important thing in my life. Covid 9, 11 Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Ukraine, Russiagate. There isn't a thing that they haven't lied about in my lifetime. Vietnam. It it. So he found newspaper articles from like 60, 70 years ago and he's quoting them. He said it was noted by climatologists that the earth began a cooling period about the 15th century. It was not until about 1890 that the Earth warmed up significantly. And during a period of little more than 50 years until about 1945, crops became more abundant and the world's population more than doubled. After about 1949 the cooling was noticeable again. Alexander noted that the total drop since the 1940s has been about 2.7 degrees. So why do I show you this? Well, there's a new report. Colin Rugg caught this. Antarctica reverses trend and gains ice for the first time in decades. According to a new study published by the Science China Earth Sciences Researchers say from 2021 to 2023 the Antarctic Ice sheet saw a record breaking mass gain record breaking mass gain of ice in Antarctica. So what this tells me is their models are all wrong. They're all by the way, climate change is all based on models. So they don't know. They didn't predict. Nobody predicted this. So how do they. How can you believe their predictions going forward? It's all based on models. And there's a thing called Climate Gate. Whatever you do, don't look into what that was. Don't ever look into it. So, research. So that's Tangji University. I think that. How you say that. Yeah. Tangji University researchers say satellite gravity gravimetry data show that from 2011 to 2020, the Arctic Sheet lost 142 gigatons of ice per year. That trend flipped. It then flipped. Why? What. How could that possibly be? Things are getting warmer. I'm told it's hotter. Every year is the hottest one on record.

[Co-host]

More plants than ever.

[Jimmy Dore]

There's more plants than ever right now because of the. Because of the increase in carbon in the atmosphere. That also means there's more plants, which also means don't tell anybody to. There's more oxygen. The Earth is way greener than it was 20 years ago. Did you know that? By about the size of the United States, that's how much more greenery there is on the planet because there's more carbon in the air. The Trend flipped between 2021 and 2023, when the ice sheet allegedly gained about 108 gigatons of ice per year. Most of the gains are in East Antarctica. Scientists say much of the gains are linked to participation. Pat. Which could be temporary.

[Co-host]

Well, you know what, Jimmy, do you have the jokes or no?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Wow, looks. It looks like blotting out the sun in the UK does help. I stand corrected.

[Co-host]

We suddenly get this great news after they blotted out the sun.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. So Antarctica is actually increasing its mass of ice. Are you trying to tell me that all the leading bow tie scientists were not only wrong, but they were identically wrong? Well, as long as they were only identically mistaken and not identically paid off, then I guess we can forgive them. They were identically wrong. So here's what we're talking about. I went and got this article. Antarctica ice sheet record surprising mass gain after a decade of accelerated loss. So. So here it. Oh, we're losing, losing. All of a sudden. Boom. Abrupt gain. Abrupt gain. Why? Oh, well, I thought there's more carbon in the air. Yeah, there is. I thought the place was. Well, we don't know what.

[Co-host]

I guess. I guess Greta Thunberg should have went to school.

[Jimmy Dore]

Aha. So I've been saying for a while now that the Earth has been getting cooler. And by that I mean it's more Popular, able to talk with women and not be awkward. A comprehensive new study reveals that the Antarctic ice sheet experienced unexpected mass gains between 2021 and 2020 through three temporarily review reversing a two decade trend of accelerating ice loss that has been contributing significantly to global sea level rise in Isn't it funny that they all say that? Global sea levels rising, yet John Kerry, the people who tell me about it keep buying beachfront property. Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Al Gore, Barack Obama bought two beachside properties. Same thing with John Kerry. This remarkable shift. Remarkable shift comes after analysis of 22 years of satellite gravit metry data showing pronounced mass loss acceleration in several critical East Antarctica glacier basins.

[Co-host]

That's my old band and Right.

[Jimmy Dore]

And don't, by the way, don't come at me with that stuff explaining that it's because of the chemtrails, because it happened way before they showed up. Bill Gates has as much to do with saving humanity as your golden retriever has to do with guarding your leftovers at the table. Okay? He's a devil's flaccid dick in a sweater. That's what Bill Gates is.

[Co-host]

Well, if it did help, wouldn't they be saying how their great idea.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Co-host]

And celebrating Bill Gates with his Nobel Prize for making the ice comeback.

[Jimmy Dore]

Researchers from the Tungi University led by Dr. Well, Wang, I wish my name was Wang and Professor Yungsad Shen have documented these dramatic fluctuations using data from the Grace Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment satellites mission. Their findings, published in Science China Earth Sciences Science Science China Inus science provide crucial insights into Science China Sciences China scientists, Antarctica changing. So the study identifies three distinct periods of Antarctic ice mass behavior over the last two decades. And if you, if you, if you're wondering, I say decade because it's funnier than saying decades. 202002 to 2010, they had a moderate ice loss. 2011 to 201220 nearly doubled the rate of ice loss. And then from 2021 to 2023, surprising complete reversal with mass gain of ice 107 gigatons per year offsetting the global sea level rise by. I don't know, whatever that is.

[Co-host]

Obama's house is saved.

[Jimmy Dore]

Thank God. Let me summarize the findings for you. Climate change is crap and nobody knew what they were talking about.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

How does that help? Does that help?

[Co-host]

Wow. Keep your mask on though.

[Jimmy Dore]

Keep your mask on. The recent mass gains appear driven by anomalous precipitation accumulation across the country. It's anomalous. What you mean like. Yeah, we you mean so you can't keep looking at climate as if it's weather. That's the mistake they're making. You have to look.

[Co-host]

Why they think they can tell you anything about it. Yeah, that's what's anomalous.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right? Not right. So they're looking at. Well, it's anomalous. You mean anomalous like in the history of the worlds of the, of the Earth? No, we didn't go back that far. We. Well, how far did you go back? Well, we went back to 1890. That, that's what we mean by anomalous. So you didn't go back, you went back a little over a hundred years. You know, the Earth is what, it's 6 billion years old or 4 billion years old. You didn't go back a thousand years or 10,000 years or a hundred thousand years. You didn't go back a million years. You didn't go back 10 million years. You didn't go back a hundred million years. You didn't go back a billion years.

[Co-host]

But they implied they did.

[Jimmy Dore]

You went back a little over 100 years. That's what you, you did. You went back a little over 100 years and you're, and that's why you call it anomalous. Well, what if you took the Earth's history of weather or climate as a whole is, would it still be anomalous? Because for the majority of life on this frickin planet there has not been polar ice caps. Did you know that? Yeah. Okay, go ahead. What do you want to say?

[Co-host]

Well, what they were saying was the reason they were only going back that far was that's when we started having combustion engines.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Co-host]

So that was a justification for it. But I mean, you know, there's more ice. So like what, you just wasted everybody's time with that?

[Jimmy Dore]

So. And by the way, they said this, that, Remember they were telling us that the barrier reefs, the, the coral reefs are all good. They're going to be dead in five years. There's more than ever, and they don't know why.

[Co-host]

There's plenty of oil too, by the way, and they don't think there's always been. It's the second most plentiful fluid on the earth besides water. Did you know that?

[Jimmy Dore]

I did not know that.

[Co-host]

I thought it was marketing.

[Jimmy Dore]

I thought it was lube at a Diddy party. Come on. Am I right?

[Co-host]

I thought it was my cereal.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here. So the recent mass gain appears to be driven by anomalous precipitation accumulation. Despite, despite this though, they're still Sticking with their story. Despite this, they're still sticking. Even though every prediction they ever made and nobody saw this coming and they all got it wrong. Exactly correct. Exactly similar. Despite this short term reversal, the researchers emphasize that Antarctica's contribution to global mean sea level rise peaked in February of 2020 before declining size. So I don't know what any of that means, so if you know what that means, let me know.

[Co-host]

I know what it means. It means how science works. How it should work is you pivot when you learn the science has changed. But how it really works is once a worldwide industry has developed around the thing, it's the same as going to war. Hey, we don't need to do that.

[Jimmy Dore]

War.

[Co-host]

Well, the machine's already in motion. What can you do?

[Jimmy Dore]

While previous research has often focused on rapid ice loss in West Antarctica, the this study highlights concerning instability in four key glacier basins in East Antarctica's Wilkes Land Queen, Maryland region. What a crazy name. Wilkes Land Queen, Maryland. You got to be kidding me. Is that China's China? Science. China. China. China. Science. Science. China. These glacier systems showed alarming changes between the first two study periods, with mass loss intensifying during the years 2011 and 2020 compared to 2002, 2010. So alarming. So by the way, they didn't predict them, they didn't know why. They don't know what's going on. What makes this finding particularly significant is that two of these glaciers, Vincennes Bay and Denman, transitioned. Oh, really? Are they on puberty blockers? They transitioned from states of mass balance and accumulation to intense mass loss, respectively. Again, I don't know what this means.

[Co-host]

It went off Ozempic, probably.

[Jimmy Dore]

They probably did. How should we interpret these findings in the context of long term climate trends? So this. How should we interpret this? So how are we supposed to. So again, the data, I guess, doesn't speak for itself. We have to interpret it.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I didn't ask that question how I should interpret it. I've already interpreted it. Right at the top slide.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right. So let's see how we interpret it.

[Co-host]

Okay.

[Jimmy Dore]

And they're not going to tell you that for most of the Earth's history we did not have polar ice caps. Did you know that?

[Co-host]

No, I didn't. But I like how it's so wordy that it's like Jordan Peterson trying to vouch for censorship on Joe.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. How should we interpret these findings in the context of long term climate trends? You mean more predictions?

[Co-host]

How we care about long term?

[Jimmy Dore]

You mean more climate models? That have been proven wrong over and over. While the recent mass gain provides a temporary reprieve from the rising sea levels, the expanding inland mass loss areas in East Antarctica. In these East Antarctica glaciers present a concerning pattern that warrants continued monitoring. Oh, really?

[Co-host]

I can translate. I can translate. Continue monitoring means keep giving us money.

[Jimmy Dore]

Keep giving us money to do this.

[Co-host]

That's what it means.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Patrick Moore says here's the big picture of global temperatures during the past 65 million years. Now, climate scientists only go back to 1890, but these a lot of people go back 65 million years. Which one you think is more informative that they estimated that. That. So that goes back 65 million years since the asteroid cataclysm that exterminated the dinosaurs. We are at the tail end of a 50 million year cooling period.

[Co-host]

Oh, I did know that. There was no ice. We are in an ice. We're in an ice age this whole time. Did you know that?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. Did you know we've been in an ice age this whole time? There was no ice in the Arctic until 3 million years ago. Our ice just appeared in the Arctic three million years ago, which is a blink of an eye in the lifetime of the planet. So here's Peter Clack. He says a million years of geological history does not lie. Earth is in the Holocene interglacial. A pre. A brief warm cycle with an ice age lasting 2.58 million years. All the, all the empires rose in this warm interglacial period. But it will end. A return to the depths of an ice age should be our greatest fear.

[Co-host]

Oh, should we stop driving? So we're back to global cooling again?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, well, we're just going to switch.

[Co-host]

Back which temperature is bad.

[Jimmy Dore]

So by the way, mentally we're halfway to an ice age because we're being forced to live in our caves like we were during COVID Not allowed out, becoming primitive and clannish. But believe me, the ice age was not as bad as the Vanilla Ice Age where they raid your village and steal your basic for their songs.

[Co-host]

They raided David Bowie's village. Is that what.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's what they. So here's from the Washington Post. This actually made it into the Washington Post. You ready for this? It says scientists have captured Earth's climate over the last 485 million years. Here's the surprising place we stand now. So what they figured out is it's cooler now than it's been here. Let me show you. By the way, if you thought it was difficult to be a scientist, now Imagine how tough it was 485 million years ago. That's gotta be that. Nobody knew what they were talking about because nobody knew how to talk. So. So here it starts up there, global mean surface temperature. And it's going down. So it was way hotter 465 million years ago. Going down, down, down. And then here's where the first mammals appear. Still going down. And then still going down, down, down. The extinction of the dinosaurs. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Going out. So we're in a cooling period. This is where we are now. Current geological stage. You see that I've got. I'm not a climate scientist. What does that tell you, Misha? Does that tell you that we're in a cooling phase? Is that what that looks like to you?

[Co-host]

It tells me your words. More trustworthy than a climate scientist who I do not trust, a climatologist. Why would you be able to even. Look, you know, you've heard of the three body problem. It's not related to climate. It's. It's planetary bodies. But once you could predict orbits pretty perfectly, except once there's three bodies in relation to each other, it becomes impossible to predict what will happen. And that's just three planets like something like the climate. Why would you even have a model that could do that? It doesn't make any sense that they ever thought they could model what I asked. I think they're knowingly lying.

[Jimmy Dore]

I go, we all know that 10,000 years ago, which is again not even a blink of an eye in Earth's time, that most of North American continent was covered in ice. It all went away. That was before we started burning oil. Does that ever, does that ever get in anybody's head? That all went away. Okay, Bloomberg News, they use this graph in Bloomberg News. You want to see what the Bloomberg News says? This was from last December, the 10 most intriguing science breakthroughs of 2024. And one of them was this graph. One of them was what they found out here it is, Bloomberg talks about it says a new reconstruction of Earth's climate shows it fluctuated wildly over the eons. No kidding. Scientists. But they also, you know what? Also if you look, if you study it, that the temperature goes up and then carbon goes up. It's not the other way around. It's not carbon goes up and then temperature goes up. It's the other way. A new reconstruction of Earth's climate shows it fluctuated wildly over the eons. Scientists shocked the world in the 1990s with a graph of the last thousand years. Just over the last thousand, using natural records to reveal temperatures shooting upwards in the 20th century. This one goes back 485 million years. Before dinosaurs, before forests, and before fish started dragging themselves up onto primitive banks. Why isn't this okay, it shows that over the last 485 million years, the climate fluctuated between hot house periods when the global temperatures can be 30 degrees Fahrenheit hotter than it is now. That's without burning any coal or oil or natural gas. 30 degrees hotter than it is now. Fahrenheit and. And it's on state. And an unstable ice house. Periods when the temperature seesaws between ice ages and more temperate phases. Like we're in right now. Did you ever hear the Little Ice Age? Did you know that was just a few hundred years ago and it lasted like 400 years? Called a Little Ice Age. Did you know that that was even a thing? No.

[Co-host]

So that's Ice Age.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's what we're in right now. We're in an unstable ice house period where the temperature seesaws between ice ages and more temperate phases. Like right now, we're in a temperate phase. It's seesaws. Sometimes living things adapted to the hottest spells, with hippos and tropical palm slowly migrating to the Arctic. So does that mean I can have a barbecue in my backyard again and have a glass stove? Or do I have to pipe? Do I have to pedal a bicycle generator? Run my children's light bulb oven?

[Co-host]

You have to have an Ed Begley Jr. Setup.

[Jimmy Dore]

When change was sudden, the fossil record shows 80 to 90% of species went extinct. That's what happens though life has never been extinguished completely on the planet. The researchers who made the plot say it has been useful. A useful test of our climate models. They match these measurements based approximations going back in time. So more steep warming is coming. The good news is the Earth will likely be a living planet for millions of years. No kidding. Just like George Carlin said, planet ain't going anywhere.

[Co-host]

I always thought that. I was like, when they're like save the planet, I'm like, no, we got to save ourselves. Like the planet's going to be fine. Really? Like that George Garland joke. Why are they saying it like this is new information?

[Jimmy Dore]

I agree with you. So again, I'm not a climate scientist. Don't take your climate knowledge from me. But be skeptical of the climate narrative because I know the people who are screaming the loudest about it are certainly the liars. Just like the people who scream the loudest about COVID were paid liars like Dr. Fauci, Dr. Collins, who's the, who's the goof with the bow tie and the lab coat hotel. Those guys are charlatans. Just like Bill Gates screaming about the vaccine. And as soon as he cashed in his stock about the vaccine, he started saying that the coven vaccine didn't work. He, that Bill Gates did that as soon as he cashed in his stock. So the people SC. I know for a fact the people screaming the loudest about climate change are either the world's biggest hypocrites or they're just lying that Barack Obama goes to Africa and tells the people of Africa you can't have air conditioners and cars because if everybody in Africa has an air conditioner that the planet's going to overheat. And then what does he do? He gets in a private jet, flies back to his new beachside mansion in Maui, and then he flies to his other beachside mansion and on Martha's Vineyard with a million. How many air conditioners you think it, it takes to air condition his. I'm going to say about 10, at least. Probably 10. 10 giant central air units.

[Co-host]

Plus to film their great podcasting and production and stuff. That equipment heats up the room. You got to run AC Mark Zuckerberg.

[Jimmy Dore]

Says he's an environmentalist and he worries about climate change. And then he bought a 430 foot yacht that's powered by four giant diesel engines. But you have to have an electric stove. You have to live in a 15 minute city, living in a storage container, driving a electric scooter, eating the bugs that hit you on the face so we can all fight climate change. Except they're going to keep flying around. And then Bill Gates says, well, I buy, I buy, I buy carbon offsets. Why would you, why would you continue if you really believe climate change is an existential threat, wouldn't you immediately stop flying your, your private jet? Because a private jet emits more carbon than my car does in my whole lifetime. One jet, one flight on one private jet emits more carbon than my car does in my lifetime. So if you really thought that that was what's making the planet overheat, wouldn't you not buy carbon offsets? You would stop flying in private jets.

[Co-host]

Well, not from a vip, Jimmy. Not if I'm more important than.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, if you're rich enough, you could still, you can still contribute to global warming and climate change if you're rich enough. And if you really. And if you really thought climate change was real, wouldn't you just buy the carbon offsets anyway. Wouldn't you put all your money into trying to fight it? You're only going to do it so you could go take a private jet flight. So those people are all liars, charlatans and criminals. Bill Gates is a criminal. And of course we know Barack Obama is also a war criminal. So is John Kerry. So are all those people. Trump, Biden, they're all Hillary Clinton is soaked in blood and criminality. What happened to that money from Haiti? Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy door comedy.com Clicking on join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. Missions to Mars, driverless cars, AI chatbots. Feels like we're already living in the future. Well, Robinhood is built for the future of trading. Robinhood's intuitive design makes trading seamless. Spot opportunities and take control of your trades with tools like screeners, simulated returns and strategy builder. On Robinhood, traders have access to hundreds of popular stocks and ETFs 24 hours a day, five days a week so you can keep up with today's fast paced markets. You can now even trade stocks and crypto all in one place with the new desktop platform Robinhood Legend. The future of trading is fast, powerful and precise experience it now on Robinhood Investing is risky. Robinhood Financial LLC member SIPC is a registered broker dealer. Trading during extended hours involves additional risks. Cryptocurrency services are offered through an account with Robinhood Crypto LLC. 170-2840 Robinhood Crypto is licensed to engage in virtual currency business activity by the New York State Department of Financial Services. The Israelis are beating up. There's a group of Jews who are against Zionism and they live in Jerusalem. Jews have lived in Jerusalem for millennia. Today a lot of them are staunch anti Zionists living in essentially a ghetto in the center of Jerusalem. So the people who are anti Zionists live in a ghetto while Israel always Jews there.

[Co-host]

Jimmy and they didn't want Zionists. That's a historic fact.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Co-host]

Not want Zionists who Were Russian and Polish people not related to them and Ukrainians didn't want them. That's right.

[Jimmy Dore]

While Israelis were celebrating Independence Day, anti Zionist Jews gathered for a demonstration in Mia Sherim which was brutally suppressed by. So they. So they got together for a protest and they were brutally suppressed. And by the way, here, let's watch.

[Field Reporter]

We're in Mesharim, a Jewish.

[Jimmy Dore]

So I don't know if you know, this is what happens when you don't take absolute control of social media. All of your own people turn against you. When they find out who and what you actually are. Their own people are turning against them. Here, let's watch.

[Field Reporter]

He's in Shurim Orthodox neighborhood in the very center of Jerusalem, which has been turned into a kind of a ghetto by the Israeli state. The core of the population of Mesharim lived here since before the Zionist state. A lot of them are very anti Zionist. Today there is a demonstration done at the same time as Israel's Independence Day. Jews are not Zionists because the Zionist ideology is not Jewish. The Zionist ideology is against the Jewish beliefs. Zionists are not Jews anymore. Even if they were born as Jews, they are not Jews anymore. Of course we raise the Palestinian flag because first of all, it's a symbol that we have no war with them. We are against the occupation that they have been going through. We are like brothers with each other. We understand that what they suffer is our suffer. Also, every spilled blood that we see with them is hurting our heart, especially when it comes from the Jewish nation's name. They stole the Jewish nation's name since Israel. And we are ashamed. We are very ashamed that they do it in our name. They have owned this land. It's called Palestine. They tried to remove the Palestinian name, the Palestinian tradition. They stole the Jewish name and they steal the Palestinian land. There is no freedom here. There is no democracy. Like you see, we cannot declare our opinions in public. We cannot make a protest in public and have personally been beaten. Today they just arrested a father and left holy. They were just arrested a father and left his child in a stroller in the middle of the street alone.

[Jimmy Dore]

So these are Jews beating other Jews. These are Zionist Jews beating Hasidic Jews. Jews who have lived there for a millennia.

[Co-host]

Well, Hasidic wasn't there for millennia. But those Jews are the ones that were there first. They didn't turn on Israel. They never wanted Zionists there. That's. And that's why when people go, oh, the Jews. That's why it's a dickhead thing to say because there's no such thing as that. There's no such thing as that. The people that live there did never wanted this. And they've been persecuted like they're natives. Those are native Israelis.

[Jimmy Dore]

Those are, yes. So why wouldn't you love the Israelis when they treat you this way in your own country just for having a different opinion? That's how they. I mean, they might as well just live in the United States right now, or Germany or England, because that's what's happening. If you have a different opinion, that's what they're doing to you. Or France, for that matter. Now, there's more to this.

[Field Reporter]

Okay? We want the Palestinian to gain. To gain back their lands because we are not thieves. We don't want anything to take out from them. We want them to believe peacefully and with freedom. With complete freedom. No apartheid. No apartheid state. We don't want it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Boy, you don't see. You're not going to see that guy on msnbc, CNN or Fox News. I'll tell you that.

[Co-host]

You're not going to see it. There's a bunch of people, I don't know if it's a Catholic thing or what it is, but there is an anti Semite thing where it's like. I think it's a torn issue from critics for criticizing Israel, honestly. But you never get to see this. No, I didn't know the history of any of this until October 7th.

[Jimmy Dore]

Me neither.

[Co-host]

I guess I got to give Bibi a debt of gratitude for his little false flag. He did that opened my eyes to it because I had no clue about any of it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Listen to this. This is another psychopath, Israel's politician. So this is an Israel, Israeli politician calling for the starvation of Palestinians, children. Literal legit starvation. I will starve the Gazans. Yes, it is our duty to expel the Gazans. So they call them Gazans, not Palestinians, because the. The land is called Palestine. Is that interesting? It wasn't called Israel, Stein, it was called Palestine. And so we have to starve the Gazans. There are 10 countries in the world that want them and are ready to absorb them. So they want to kick them out of their own. So this is called ethnic cleansing. Before, the argument was, nobody will even take the Palestinians. What does that tell you about them? That's what we gotta wipe them out. Now they're saying, no, there's 10 countries that actually want them. Let's get rid of them. This is our job. Every day that passes here is to kick the Palestinians and ethnically cleanse Gaza. And the west bank members of the Knesset. If you say in Israel, Israeli Parliament, I want to starve Gazans, understand the implications of that statement. Wasn't I clear? It's simple. I want to starve Gazans completely. A full siege. These people are psychopaths. These people are psychopaths. That's. Siege warfare, by the way, is a war crime.

[Co-host]

You know what's so crazy about it?

[Jimmy Dore]

That's called collective punishment. Go ahead. What?

[Co-host]

When? You know the interview with Madeleine Albright where like, you starved all those kids was worth it. I think it was.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

It is refreshing how they would openly say their psychotic intentions rather than our American leaders, who, by the way, do all this. They do it on the regular. And they all, like, it's not polite to say what they're really doing, but they'll just blurt it out to a shock. That's why I say look at Israeli news and not American news if you want to know what's going on there. They're remarkably forthcoming about the evil shit they're doing.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. They don't. They'll say it in Israel. They won't say it here in the United States. Exactly, but they'll say it right on TV there.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's like, hey, I want to starve all the guards, cousins. I want to starve them. Full siege. So what he's basically saying another name term for that is he's saying, I want to do a full blown war crime. I'm all for full blown war crimes. That's another way to say that. Go ahead, Kurt.

[Co-host]

Well, you're going to hit every Hitler note you can hit, right? The irony lost on you that. Completely.

[Jimmy Dore]

Let's watch. Anyone who wants to leave Gaza can leave for a humanitarian zone that we will control. A zone that we will control. The Israeli army will distribute food in the zone. And how will you deal with the world's criticism? He asked, so how are you going to deal with the world's criticism of what you're doing? They don't care. Let's see what he says. Really? We've been there before. The world's criticism, Forget about that. We need to take care of Jews. It's time. So that's not. You're not taking care of Jews. You're slaughtering and ethnically cleansing Palestinians. That's not taking care of it. So the trick to being a psychopath like this guy is to just say everything like it's normal. Just say it like it's normal. Promote it like there's something wrong with you. If you don't agree because that's how a mental case would say things. That's how he's saying it.

[Co-host]

Well, if you live in a psychopathiocracy with no constitution, it is normal.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yep. So let's watch a little more of that protest. Did you see that sign? It said Zionism, the main cause of anti. Semitism. Zionism. And that's 100% right. I agree with the Jews in Jerusalem saying Zionism is the cause of anti Semitism. People are like, well, there is a rise in anti Semitism. Like, really, you think? I wonder why that is. Maybe because they're robbing us of our free speech to protect Zionists. You know, the people who are the most powerful in the United States who need the least amount of protection. They're going to steal our freedom of speech. They're going to. They're going to deport people who are here legally on green cards who are doing everything we ask them to do to become a citizen. They're going to deport them because they state, use their speech. Of course. So if you equate anti Zionism with anti Semitism, you know who does that? Anti Semites and Zionists. Isn't it amazing?

[Co-host]

Yeah. The anti Semitism has not risen at all.

[Jimmy Dore]

At all.

[Co-host]

At all. Anti Zionism has risen.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Co-host]

And they pass these resolutions to try to pretend it's the same thing, but I know it's not the same thing because I'm watching them beat up Jews who say it's not the same thing.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. Isn't it amazing how cops are cops everywhere? Isn't it amazing? Even in Israel and Jerusalem. Like, they don't give. That's, that's.

[Co-host]

They're a little more annually invasive in Jerusalem.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Boy, look at all those. Yeah, look at all those disruptive anti Semitic Nazis and their matching getups. And. Oh, and look at the Orthodox Jews too. Do you see what he's holding? So he's got a mock up of the Israeli flag and he's got a swastika on it.

[Co-host]

Yeah. It's not divided by Orthodox. It's not that Orthodox likes it. No, there's no.

[Jimmy Dore]

But there. No, there's Chabad.

[Co-host]

Chabad Lubovitch. That's the. The real main cult that spread a lot of stuff around. But like I said, there's not the Jews. There's a lot of factions here. It really was never supposed to be like, what they made it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Co-host]

A blasphemy to most of these Jews.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. So if you go along with Zionists, you're a chump. You've. You. They've pressed your racist button. So you hate people who are called Palestinians. You equate all Palestinians with Hamas. And most Palestinians don't support them. They barely won the election in 2006. Most of the people alive today in Palestine did not vote in that election. But they have to. They have to do that propaganda. So you go along with literally slaughtering them and starving them on purpose. They won't show that video of that guy in the United States on corporate news saying, yeah, no, we're going to starve them. Do you hear what I'm saying? We're going to starve them. They're not going to show that on Rachel Maddow or Chris Hayes or Anderson Cooper. They're not going to show that on Sean Hannity. They're not going to show that here. And I really want to know how either party, the Democrats or Republicans, are okay with the slaughter of children. Well, I thought they were also going to protect children. Well, AOC pretends she lies and she says Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are working tirelessly to get a ceasefire. And then it just came out that they never did. That was a lie. She just made it up. She also said he was the most progressive president. She also said that, too. Yeah, and that's. She's the future of the Democratic Party. Why? Because she belt buckles to the establishment. That's why. She's. If she was actually what she appeared to be, she would not be allowed to be in the Democratic Party. They'd get rid of her. Like they get rid of everybody who stands up to them, like Dennis Kucinich. They gerrymander her right out of the fucking district. So finally we're stopping the crazy bioweapons experiments. It's not research. There's experiments trying to figure out how to make stuff more deadly so that the Pentagon could then use it as a weapon. I want to share this with you because it just came out today. Jeffrey Sachs, it didn't. Is now being quoted all over social media saying that the COVID 19 virus was created at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. He says he's only 99% sure. Now, Jeffrey Sachs was the head of the Lancet study group about where the COVID virus came from. But I already showed you that. The former head of the cdc, Redfield, already said it was Ralph Barrick at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, most likely that created this virus. So it wasn't created In Wuhan, who's actually here. And I've had people come to my shows and tell me that, well, so the problem is they said Barack Obama stopped that gain of function, but he didn't. Yeah, here it is from the. It says in 2014, the federal government put a moratorium. Federal government, meaning Barack Obama put a moratorium on some gain of function research. But barracks work was not banned.

[Co-host]

I mean, how many ways does the government tell you that they hate you and want you to die and they're going to lie to you at every step of your life and they're going to do nothing for you? But it will be hard.

[Jimmy Dore]

But don't listen to the experts. Don't do your own research. Trust science. Be a moron. Don't think for yourself. Don't ever question authority. Do as the man on the TV says. That's all things I heard from from comedians, which makes me embarrassed to be a comedian.

[Co-host]

Those are quotes. I know those are quotes. By the way, it sounds like you're being wry.

[Jimmy Dore]

Those are quotes, yes. So guess what? Donald Trump, today, I'm pretty sure this is today, double check me on the date, has stopped. He has signed an executive order banning gain of function research. It's not research, it's experiments. It's crazy. It's psychopathic research that takes viruses and makes them more deadly and more transmissible. Why would you want to ever do that? Oh, because we want to create bioweapons.

[Co-host]

Which I thought you're not supposed to do, but we're not signed on to any.

[Jimmy Dore]

Geneva. This is today. So here it is today. Today being May. Cinco de Mayo. Cinco de Mayo. Here you go. The first relates to gain of function research. Gain of function research is a type of biomedical research where pathogens are adulterated, viruses are adulterated to make them more potent or to change the way that they function.

[Co-host]

This many people believe that gain of.

[Jimmy Dore]

Function research was one of the key causes of the COVID pandemic that struck us in the last decade. What this executive order does, first of all, it provides powerful new tools to enforce the ban on federal funding for gain of function research abroad. It also strengthens other oversight mechanisms related to that issue and creates an overarching strategy to ensure that biomedical research in general is being conducted safely and in a way that ultimately protects human health more.

[Former Congressman]

It's a big deal.

[Jimmy Dore]

Could have been that, we wouldn't have had the problem we had. A lot of people say that, sir, if we had this done.

[Co-host]

Earlier.

[Former Congressman]

Thank you.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there you have it. So finally we're stopping the crazy bioweapons, psychopathic crazy scientists, experiments. It's not research. There is experiments trying to figure out how to make stuff more deadly so that the Pentagon can then use it as a weapon. That's why Fauci was the guy funding this, because he was the head of the bioweapons division of darpa, which is the Pentagon. And when did he get that job? Right after 9, 11. That's why Fauci was the highest paid guy in all of government. And that's also why he got a blanket pardon going back to 2014. Because the people who actually run this country are not politicians. The people who run this country are the donors. The people at the Pentagon, the war machine, Wall Street. Those are the people of big pharma. Those are the people who actually run this country. And when you see a session of Congress, those politicians aren't there doing the bidding of workers or students or voters or citizens or the elderly. They're doing the bidding of the people who actually run this country. The owners, as George Carlin put it, the owners of this country. And there's only a handful of them. There's only a handful of billionaires that own all the media. Like 15, 15 billionaires have six companies that run every movie, TV show, radio show, newspaper in the country. So.

[Co-host]

He goes, many people believe it was this research that caused Covid. That really sticks in my craw a little bit. Jimmy, you know what would be a great thing for Trump to do? Sign one of your world famous executive orders to declassify everything relating to that and then arrest the people responsible for the crime and give them one of those trials we gave Saddam and give them the same treatment we gave Saddam. That would be the right thing to do. Because what they're doing right now is Trump was there when we pushed his stupid vaccine. He just learned about this just now, so. Oh great, you signed it now after the soft kills were done. That's great. Is anybody going to be brought to justice for it?

[Jimmy Dore]

No.

[K12 Representative]

Dr. Fauci, as you are aware, it is a crime to lie to Congress. Section 1001 of the U.S. criminal Code creates a felony and a five year penalty for lying to Congress. On your last trip to our committee on May 11, you stated that the NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And yet gain of function research was done entirely in the Wuhan Institute by Dr. Shi and was funded by the NIH. I'd like to ask unanimous consent to insert into the record the Wuhan virology paper entitled Discovery of a Rich gene pool of Bat SARS related Coronaviruses. Please deliver a copy of the journal article to Dr. Fauci. In this paper, Dr. Shi credits the NIH and lists the actual number of the grant that she was given by the nih. In this paper she took two bat coronavirus genes spike genes and combined them with a SARS related backbone to create new viruses that are not found in nature. These lab created viruses were then shown to replicate in humans. These experiments combined genetic information from different coronaviruses that infect animals but not humans to create novel artificial viruses able to infect human cells. Viruses that in nature only infect animals were manipulated in the Wuhan lab to gain the function of infecting humans. This research fits the definition of the research that the NIH said was subject to the pause in 2014-2017, a pause in funding on gain of function. But the NIH failed to recognize this defines in a way and it never came under any scrutiny. Dr. Richard E. Bright, a molecular biologist from Rutgers, described this research in Wuhan as the Wuhan lab used NIH funding to construct novel chimeric SARS related coronaviruses able to infect human cells and laboratory animals. This is high risk research that creates new potential pandemic pathogens. Potential pandemic pathogens that exist only in the lab, not in nature. This research matches. These are Dr. Ebright's words. This research matches indeed epitomizes the definition of gain of function research done entirely in Wuhan for which there was supposed to be a federal pause. Dr. Fauci, knowing that it is a crime to lie to Congress, do you wish to retract your statement of May 11th where you claim that the NIH never funded gain of function research in Wuhan microphone? Senator PAUL I have never lied before the Congress and I do not retract that statement. This paper that you are referring to was judged by qualified staff up and down the chain as not being gain of function.

[Jimmy Dore]

What? I like that. Up and down the chain. What is that? Talk about a complete made up term that sounds authoritative. Authoritative. Up and down the chain. Up and down the chain. You mean up and down the chain of people you hired personally and they owe their conspirators and they. Oh yeah, co conspirator. Up and down the chain of coconspirators.

[Co-host]

That's what it means.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[K12 Representative]

Let me finish. Take an animal virus and you increase its transmility to humans. You're saying that's not gain of function.

[Jimmy Dore]

That is correct.

[K12 Representative]

And Senator Paul, you do not know what you are talking about, quite frankly, and I want to say that officially, you do not know what you are talking about.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, you get one person.

[K12 Representative]

Let's read from the nih. Gain of function. This is your definition that you guys wrote. It says that scientific research that increases the transmissibility among mammals is gain of function. They took animal viruses that only occur in animals and they increase their transmissibility to humans. How you can say that is not gain of function? It is not. It's a dance. And you're dancing around this because you're trying to obscure responsibility for 4 million people dying around the world from a pandemic.

[Jimmy Dore]

And let's, let's.

[K12 Representative]

Dr. Fauci, I have to. Well, now you're getting into something. If the point that you are making is that the grant that was funded.

[Jimmy Dore]

As a subaward from EcoHealth to Wuhan.

[K12 Representative]

Created SARS COV2, that's where you are getting. Let me finish. We don't know. Wait a minute. Did not come from the lab, but all the evidence is pointing that it came from the lab. And there will be responsibility for those who funded the labor, including yourself.

[Jimmy Dore]

I totally. This committee will allow the witness to.

[K12 Representative]

I totally resent the lie that you are now propagating, Senator, because if you.

[Jimmy Dore]

Look at the virus, because it wasn't created at the Wuhan, we created it right here at University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill.

[K12 Representative]

All right.

[Dennis Kucinich]

We're talking about Trump threatening to bomb Iran. And one person who was not upset by these threats is the Republican Senator Tom Cotton. And in fact, he doesn't understand what the big fuss is about, to the point where, when he recently questioned the incoming chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Dan Kaine, Tom Cotton asked Dan Kaine, will you be ready to execute an order to bomb Iran if the.

[K12 Representative]

President asks for military options to support what he has said publicly, that if Iran is not willing to make a deal that there will be bombing.

[Dennis Kucinich]

Do you commit to provide him the.

[K12 Representative]

Best and candid advice you can about viable military options and the likely consequences of each? Senator, I think that's what the job of the Joint Staff is to do, is to provide a range of options for the President to consider and then allow him to select whatever those options.

[Jimmy Dore]

Work best for him.

[K12 Representative]

Thank you. And finally, there's some hysteria about the prospect of the President ordering these strikes or someone like you in uniform providing him advice that it's going to lead to Another forever war or another endless war. Are you aware of operations, maybe operations against Iran, like the tanker wars in 1988, in which the forceful but discriminate application of military power did not lead to a forever war or an endless war, but rather led to peace and stability? Yes, sir, those examples in our history do exist. Maybe the Qasem Soleimani strike in 2020 as well, that caused Iran to pull in its horns for the rest of President Trump's first term. Thank you, General Kaine.

[Jimmy Dore]

Thank you, Senator.

[Dennis Kucinich]

All right, let me bring in former Democratic member of Congress Dennis Kucinich. When he was in Congress, he had a much different take on the prospect of war. He was leading the charge against it. He was the leading congressional opponent of George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq. So, Dennis Kucinich, when you hear that from Tom Cotton, he's mock people who are afraid of attack on Iran. He calls that hysteria. And then he tries to argue that, look, we've done this before, we've had wars with, we've had battles with Iran before, and things went fine. So what's the worry about? What do you make of that argument from Cotton?

[Former Congressman]

A couple things. First of all, I've met Senator Cotton a few times. He loves America, otherwise he wouldn't be serving in the U.S. senate. And he wants to protect America. I understand that the general who he had a colloquy with has a responsibility to follow orders. He wants to protect America. That same kind of thinking existed when we were told back in 2002 that Iran had weapons of mass destruction that they were going to use against the United States. Iran didn't have those weapons, but we were lied to. Iran didn't have the intention or the capability of attacking America. Iran was not involved in the Antarax attack. We found out later on the Antarctics came from Fort Detrick, Maryland, from an army lab. Now, let's compare that to where we are right now. Iran doesn't have the intention or capability of attacking the United States. Iran hasn't, you know, done. Has not developed a nuclear weapon. Our own intelligence agencies say that. So if that's the case, what is compelling senators, congressmen to say, yeah, go for it, Bomb Iran. People aren't thinking, America's not at risk here unless we do bomb. And this is his old, you know, this is an old story in history, which historian Barbara Tuchman brilliantly analyzed in her book the March of Folly. You know, she did a sweep of history from the Trojan wars all the way through to Vietnam to show how leaders Wooden headedness, she calls it, made worse the better reason and ended up attacking other countries to the detriment of the country that did the attacking and of course, to the ruination of the people they attacked. So this is. We have to evolve as a species here. You know, this is about, do we have a capacity to do that? We have to, or we're going to destroy ourselves. And so I see the, even the talk about the bombing, you got to think there is unity of thought, word and deed when people think about it and then they articulate it. And when it's the President of the United States who's doing this, you have to pay very close attention. And then they get ready to do it. You know, there's a chance they might go ahead and bomb Iran's nuclear infrastructure. No one's thinking about the consequences of that. And if they are, they should share that with the American people. Because what I did in my column and substack was show that if you bomb a nuclear reactor or a nuclear lab, radiation is going everywhere if you use nuclear weapons. And every one of those bombs that the B2 bomber can carry, each one of them is 80. Hiroshima, 8, 0. What are we talking about? You know, Presidents Obama and Biden talked about moving the B83 bombs out of the American inventory. President Trump kept them alive. Again, this is not just about President Trump and who he is. This is about who we are. We ought to be calling our members of Congress and the Senate and saying, hey, wait, stop it. Stop this madness. You know, most people aren't. If you ask most people where Iran is on a map, they wouldn't be able to find it. But let me share some information. Iran is a technologically advanced society. They're part of the Persian culture, very famous for art and literature and mathematics. 90 million people. 90 million. You're talking about a country bigger than Texas. Okay, where are we going with this? We're actually thinking about bombing the nuclear infrastructure with nuclear weapons of a country with 90 million people. And we don't think there's going to be any consequences to that. If you bomb one place out of the over dozen installations that are nuclear. You're talking about radioactivity that is going to result in radioactive poison, increases in cancer, genetic defects, and of course, the more place you bomb, the more the wider it spread. You know, this is a doomsday scenario we're talking about here.

[Dennis Kucinich]

Yeah, and this one that Trump campaigned against. What's funny about that clip of Tom Cotton mocking people who are concerned about what he calls Forever wars, which he puts in quotes derisively, is that, you know, Trump campaigned against Forever wars explicitly. This is Trump back in 2020.

[Jimmy Dore]

We are ending the era of endless wars.

[Former Congressman]

In its place is a renewed clear.

[Jimmy Dore]

Eyed focus on defending America's vital interests.

[Former Congressman]

It is not the duty of US.

[Jimmy Dore]

Troops to solve ancient conflicts in faraway lands that many people have never even heard of. We are not the policemen of the world.

[Dennis Kucinich]

And 2020, and during this most recent cycle, he explicitly criticized Joe Biden for bombing Yemen.

[K12 Representative]

I look at your policies, I see secure the borders, bring jobs back. I look at the Democrats and many Republicans and it's foreign war and foreign expansion. What is that?

[Jimmy Dore]

I think it's just a failed mentality. It's crazy. You can solve problems over a telephone.

[Former Congressman]

Instead, they start dropping bombs.

[Jimmy Dore]

I see recently they're dropping bombs all over Yemen.

[Former Congressman]

You don't have to do that. You can talk in such a way.

[Jimmy Dore]

Where they respect you and they listen to you.

[Dennis Kucinich]

Dennis Kucinich, I mean, you're a rare Democratic politician who's tried to reach across the aisle. And I know that there are people in Trump's base who agree with this message. It's what they voted for, which he now seems to have completely abandoned, at least when it comes to ending the wars in the Middle East.

[Former Congressman]

Well, we have to ask why? And it's a tragedy because as you played that tape and I'm listening to it, I'm thinking, yes, he gets it. He understands that what America risks. But what's happened, what's happened is that President Trump, as many presidents have been, is open to, influenced by individuals who are not necessarily Americans, who don't have America's interests at heart and who have their own political agenda. And when you look at Prime Minister Netanyahu, he is trying to stay out of jail. In order to do that, he's got to keep his coalition together. His coalition are some of the most devastatingly right wingers, hardcore Zionists who are dedicated, you know, who are okay with killing Palestinians and they're okay with killing Iranians. Now this. If there is a war against Iran, it will not be without consequence for people in Israel. Iran has the ability, even if being bombed, they have a missile system that is all over their country. They have the ability to launch multiple independently targeted missiles, that they can change the direction in flight, defeat Israel's missile shield. They have the ability to strike Israel. And I don't have any doubt that if the United States bombs Iran, that Israel is going to pay the price. The people of Israel will pay the price. In addition to that, if it's a full scale attack on a nuclear infrastructure, the radiation could reach the Middle east and Israel, Syria, Lebanon, the wider region. People have to think about consequences here. One of the things we do with the child at the earliest age, we teach them the consequences of their action. And no one's talking consequence. They're just like, well, if we can do it, we'll do it. Really, that's not what life is about. You have to make decisions based on what's rational and what's right. Now, President Trump is a celebrated deal maker. He broke the deal in 2017 that it took Six Nations 13 years to construct, but he set it aside. Iran continued with its program not to make a weapon. They continue with their nuclear program. Nuclear power, just like we have nuclear power, provides energy to our communities. But what's happened here is that the President has now decided that, you know, he's not going to negotiate or he's going to make a non negotiable demand which isn't negotiation. And while the contents of the letter that he sent to Iranian leaders has never been released, it's pretty clear from the sense of things that he's just telling Iran, you got to get rid of everything that is nuclear, your nuclear reactors, your nuclear research labs, everything else, or else we're going to bomb you. The likes of which you've never seen before. Now come on. I mean, he's President of the United States. When a president of the United States says that, you better take it seriously.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, become a premium member. Go to jimmy dorecomedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be and I'll keep being me. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Do not freak out.

[Co-host]

I'm not kidding.

[Jimmy Dore]

Do not. Do not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Do not freak out.

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[Jimmy Dore]

Hi, I'm Chris Gethard and I'm very excited to tell you about Beautiful and Armless, a podcast where I talk to random people on the phone. I tweet out a phone number. Thousands of people try to call. Talk to one of them. They stay anonymous. I can't hang up. That's all the rules. I never know what's going to happen. We get serious ones. I've talked with meth dealers on their way to prison. I've talked to people who survived mass shootings, crazy funny ones. I talked to a guy with a goose laugh, somebody who dresses up as a pirate on the weekends. I never know what's going to happen. It's a great show. Subscribe today. Beautiful Anonymous.