Jeff Bezos Is TERRIFIED The Masses Will Come For Him!

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Jimmy Dore Show

Episode: Jeff Bezos Is TERRIFIED The Masses Will Come For Him!
Date: May 22, 2026
Host: Jimmy Dore
Co-Host: Kurt
Guest: Tony Heller

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Episode Overview

This episode tackles the growing anxiety among the billionaire class—specifically Jeff Bezos—regarding potential public unrest driven by economic inequality, automation, and mass surveillance. Jimmy Dore examines how oligarchs like Bezos and tech elites seem to sense that rising inequality and deteriorating living conditions for ordinary Americans may lead to revolt. The hosts dissect recent statements by Jeff Bezos, delve into the harsh realities for Amazon workers, and expose the role of political and corporate elites in shaping a precarious future. The episode culminates with a deep dive into America’s catastrophic water crisis with Tony Heller, challenging mainstream media’s narratives about climate and infrastructure.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Oligarchs’ Fear of the Masses

Timestamps: 00:21–02:59

• Jimmy opens by pointing to Larry Fink (BlackRock CEO) and Jeff Bezos as prime examples of oligarchs worried about popular revolt.
• Notes the concentration of corporate power: “There’s only three companies in the Western world: BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street.” (Jimmy Dore, 00:32)
• Argues oligarchs are preparing surveillance infrastructure and draconian security for anticipated unrest, not to protect from external threats but from domestic backlash.

“They’re building the data centers so they can have surveillance on us after they take all our jobs away and we revolt…They didn’t build the ICE prisons for the immigrants…They want the immigrants here for cheap labor.” (Jimmy Dore, 01:29)

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2. Jeff Bezos’ Call to Eliminate Taxes for the Bottom 50%

Timestamps: 02:59–03:59

• Jimmy plays a clip of Jeff Bezos proposing that nurses and the lower 50% should not pay federal income taxes, positioning himself as compassionate to the working class.

“Why is a nurse in Queens who makes $75,000 a year paying more than $1,000 a month in taxes?...We shouldn’t be asking this nurse in Queens to send money to Washington.” (Jeff Bezos, 02:59)

• Dore frames this as an act of self-preservation, not altruism; Bezos feels “the heat” of instability created by extreme income inequality.

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3. The Reality for Amazon Workers

Timestamps: 03:59–05:53

• Discussion about horrendous working conditions, citing 150% annual turnover rates at Amazon fulfillment centers and the extreme treatment of employees.

“Do you know what they did [when a worker died]? They put boxes around him so the other workers wouldn’t get distracted and they could keep working…the first thing Amazon did was they clocked him out.” (Jimmy Dore, 05:01)

• Critiques Bezos for living lavishly (yachts, tax write-offs) while neglecting his workforce, many of whom rely on public assistance.

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4. Universal Basic Income (UBI) & Social Control

Timestamps: 06:49–07:50

• Dore contends the call for UBI by Bezos and Musk is not for public good but for control, likening it to “slave owners making sure you had housing and food…so now they can cut you off if you protest.”

“Then you’re a slave…They completely control you…if you go and protest, they’ll say you’re a terrorist. And then they cut off your UBI.” (Jimmy Dore, 06:53)

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5. Historic Context: From the Gilded Age to Pharaohs

Timestamps: 07:50–09:45

• The hosts claim today’s U.S. income inequality exceeds the Gilded Age, drawing parallels to ancient Egypt’s pharaonic inequality.
• Discuss the rise of a ‘techno-priest’ class, where tech billionaires act as the new clergy of society.

“You have to go back to the time of the pharaohs in Egypt to find income inequality as bad as it is in the United States right now.” (Jimmy Dore, 08:17)

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6. Comparing U.S. and China: The Power Dynamic

Timestamps: 08:59–09:45

• Argues that in China, the government sits above capitalists, safeguarding public welfare, while in the U.S., billionaires control the government.
• Praises China’s infrastructure and willingness to rein in wayward billionaires.

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7. Bezos’ Self-Justification For Wealth

Timestamps: 09:56–12:04

• Bezos (via clip) claims the benefit Amazon delivers surpasses any charity.
• The hosts counter, citing:
  • Half of Amazon warehouse workers face food insecurity,
  • One-third use public assistance,
  • Massive small business closures accelerated by Amazon, especially during COVID.

“Amazon creates tremendous value. And by the way, all companies are creating value of some kind.” (Jeff Bezos, 11:54)

“The turnover rate at a warehouse for Amazon, 100 to 150% annually…Meaning the workforce is largely replaced every eight to 12 months.” (Jimmy Dore, 12:36)

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8. The Retail Apocalypse & Amazon’s Role

Timestamps: 13:33–15:26

• Amazon’s impact: Negative revenue for 90% of independent retailers, thousands of brick-and-mortar closures annually.
• Larger context: The shift to online retail, with Amazon as a major driver, devastates local economies.

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9. Broader Systemic Critique: Oligarchy, Surveillance, and Political Failure

Timestamps: 15:26–23:33

• Jimmy rails against the myth of U.S. democracy, referencing a Princeton study showing oligarchic dominance.
• Criticizes lack of public healthcare, mass incarceration, endless wars, and the surveillance state.
• Notes that both major parties perpetuate this unequal system.

“We don’t live in a democracy, which is why we still don’t have health care…we live in an oligarchy and your vote doesn’t matter.” (Jimmy Dore, 15:42)

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10. The Tech Class and AI’s Impact on Jobs

Eric Schmidt Segment
Timestamps: 20:47–29:32

• Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt’s commencement speech is booed as he touts AI as a force for good; the hosts ridicule his out-of-touch optimism.
• Students’ skepticism highlights generational anxieties about job security and debt.

“Let me give you some advice. You should hire some personal security for the rest of your life.” (Jimmy Dore, 25:25)

“The jobs of tomorrow will be to provide security for this guy.” (Kurt, 25:53)

• Critique: Tech billionaires and elites are “witches,” a new priest class mediating the future through automation and AI, threatening traditional livelihoods.

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11. Dan Bongino Segment: Political Hypocrisy & Deflection

Timestamps: 30:26–44:03

• Dore plays and mocks Bongino’s rant against Thomas Massie, exposing it as projection.
• Ridicules Bongino for attacking others while hiding behind blocks and failing in political action, particularly related to the Epstein files, Israel, and conservative hypocrisy.

“He did nothing…You did nothing.” (Jimmy Dore, 41:11)

• “Don’t suggest illegal dog fighting on any level when you’re trying to take the moral high ground.” (Jimmy Dore, 41:35)

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12. Catastrophic Water Crisis in the Western U.S.

Guest Segment: Tony Heller
Timestamps: 44:38–59:44

Hoover Dam & Colorado River Failure

• The water system in the American West, culminating at the Hoover Dam, has reached a “foundational system failure.” Record-low snowpack, rivers near zero flow, hydro generation shut down.
• Jimmy plays a gripping narrative segment (45:23–52:04) describing the crisis’ scale:
  • 40 million people dependent on the Colorado river.
  • Las Vegas enforcing Stage 4 water restrictions.
  • Agricultural losses threatening 15% of U.S. food supply.

“90 years of uninterrupted operation…And now, silence.” (Narrator, 46:54)

Heller’s Analysis

• The current crisis is historically normal over hundreds of years; the 20th century was abnormally wet (“People developed unrealistic expectations about water availability,” Tony Heller, 52:25).
• Desalination could offer relief, but only for some urban needs; agriculture, particularly in Yuma and the Imperial Valley, faces existential risk.
• Politics and short-term memory have postponed necessary mitigation; officials still largely ignore the looming crisis.

“People are very consumed with what’s going on in Iran and other places in the world and they’re not paying attention to the very real problems we have here at home.” (Tony Heller, 57:33)

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps & Attribution)

• “You only get two parties and three companies…”
  — Jimmy Dore, 00:32

• “China has a freer market than we do.”
  — Jimmy Dore, 01:14

• “Why is a nurse in Queens who makes $75,000 a year paying more than $1,000 a month in taxes?...We shouldn’t be asking this nurse in Queens to send money to Washington.”
  — Jeff Bezos (clip), 02:59

• “Do you know what they did [when a worker died at Amazon]? They put boxes around him so the other workers wouldn’t get distracted…The first thing Amazon did was they clocked him out.”
  — Jimmy Dore, 05:01

• “You have to go back to the time of the pharaohs in Egypt to find income inequality as bad as it is in the United States right now.”
  — Jimmy Dore, 08:17

• "We are living in the age of capitalist decay where society is breaking down due to the endless greed of the billionaire class."
  — Jimmy Dore, 08:59

• “If you go and protest, they’ll say you’re a terrorist. And then they cut off your UBI.”
  — Jimmy Dore, 06:53

• “The jobs of tomorrow will be to provide security for this guy [Eric Schmidt].”
  — Kurt, 25:53

• “We don’t live in a democracy, which is why we still don’t have health care…we live in an oligarchy and your vote doesn’t matter.”
  — Jimmy Dore, 15:42

• "Hoover Dam is now the deadliest water failure in recorded history of the American continent. Hoover Dam has gone dark for the first time in 90 years."
  — Narrator, 45:23

• “People developed unrealistic expectations about water availability…that was the opposite of normal.”
  — Tony Heller, 52:25

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Notable/Memorable Moments

• Kurt and Jimmy’s comedic riffing about Bezos’ yachts and the absurdity of the billionaire class (05:31–05:59).
• Jimmy’s comparison of UBI to slave-owner paternalism as a tool of social control (06:53).
• The Eric Schmidt segment: Crowd booing as Schmidt praises AI, with Jimmy lampooning elites’ disconnect (20:47–27:55).
• The vivid, alarming narration of the Hoover Dam crisis, painted as a civilization-level emergency in real time (45:23–52:04).

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Key Timestamps for Major Segments

• Oligarchs’ Anxiety & Data Centers: 00:21–02:59
• Bezos on Taxes: 02:59–03:59
• Amazon Labor Conditions: 03:59–05:59
• UBI & Social Control: 06:49–07:50
• Income Inequality & Gilded Age: 07:50–09:45
• Bezos’ Wealth Justification: 09:56–12:04
• Amazon’s Impact on Small Business: 13:33–15:26
• Oligarchy and U.S. Political System: 15:26–23:33
• Eric Schmidt & AI Segment: 20:47–29:32
• Dan Bongino Politics Segment: 30:26–44:03
• Hoover Dam Water Crisis (Narrative & Analysis): 45:23–59:44

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Conclusion

This episode paints a bleak but darkly comic portrait of late-stage capitalist America, where billionaires like Bezos mouth concern for the working class while perpetuating their own dominance and preparing for revolt. Jimmy Dore and his co-host lampoon the tech elite’s detachment, the intentional destruction of small business, and the looming environmental catastrophe, all while highlighting how little agency regular Americans (especially the young and working poor) truly have. The crisis of water in the American West stands as a metaphor for systemic failure writ large—ignored by the powerful as they insulate themselves from the consequences of their own greed.

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Transcript

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, come see me on tour in Atlanta, Raleigh, Spokane, Tacoma, Levittown, New York, Rosemont, Illinois and Chicago, Illinois. Go to Jimmy Dore.com for a link for tickets. Establishment media sucks. All gas lighting, so good luck. Bullshit.

[Kurt]

We can't afford fomenting this.

[Jimmy Dore]

Watch and see as his jack off the medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on. It's the chimmy door. So do you need more signs that the oligarchs are afraid that we're going to revolt? They know it's coming. They know it's coming. Well, here, let me show you. You remember this, right? So this is Larry Fink. He's Trump's boss. He's the boss of everybody. He's the head of BlackRock, which owns everything. So there's only three companies in. In the world. Do you know that in the Western world, join three companies. It's BlackRock, it's Vanguard, and it's State Street. That's it. So we have three companies. You get, as George Carlin said, you get 40 different brands of cereal. You only get two parties and three companies that everybody works for.

[Kurt]

China has a freer market.

[Jimmy Dore]

China has a freer market than we do.

[Kurt]

Not for foreigners, though, because they actually give a shit about their citizens. So a foreigner can't come in and corner their markets the way we let a scumbag Canadian like Mr. Kevin O' Leary, wonderful. Come and do.

[Jimmy Dore]

So they're afraid. So this is. I showed you this the other day. I'll show it to you again, then I'll show you Jeff Bezos. So watch this. He's afraid that. So they're building the data centers so they can have surveillance on us after they take all our jobs away and we revolt. And so they can have surveillance and then put us in the ICE prisons that they built. They didn't build the ice prisons for the immigrants. They want the immigrants here for cheap labor. That's why they're doubling down on H1B visas.

[Kurt]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

So they know that people are going to revolt. And here's. He says the quiet part out loud. Watch this. He knows they're going to start attacking them. He knows. Larry Fink knows that the plebs are going to start attacking the oligarchs here in the United States if we're going to be building, let's see, these 1 gigawatt data centers. How do we make sure we're not protecting those 50 billion, $75 billion investments? We have to relook at everything because of the role of drone warfare. Right now we're looking at it internationally. But one of my concerns is could it be a domestic terrorism using a $3,000 drone? So all of these things are actually opportunities, not problems here in the United States. It's an opportunity when the plebs rise up and start attacking you. So I bring that up to show you Jeff Bezos just did the same thing. Listen to him. Listen to him. Now this sounds like a good thing.

[Jeff Bezos (voice clip)]

But listen, we'll talk about, you know, making the tax system more progressive. How about we start by having the nurse and Queens not pay taxes? Why are somebody at all. Why is some. Why is a nurse in Queens who makes $75,000 a year paying more than $1,000 a month in taxes? That's $1,000 a month. That could help with rent or groceries or anything. And so, and by the way, do you know what that all adds up to? The bottom half of income earners in this country pay only 3% of the taxes. It's only 3%. We can find 3%. So we don't have. It's a small amount of money for the government. And really, the more I thought about it, to me, it's kind of absurd that we're doing this. You know, we shouldn't be asking this nurse in Queens to send money to Washington. They should be sending her to.

[Jimmy Dore]

So our friend, Power to the People, he tells you what this is all about. So I'm going to read it to you. This is what it's really about. Oh, you know, Jeff Bezos is feeling the heat. You know, Jeff Bezos is feeling the heat and afraid of a revolution when he's calling to eliminate income taxes for the bottom half of America. You know, Jimmy, I just want to jump in and say quickly that the regular driver for an Amazon delivery, they make about 30 full time $38,000 a year. That's what they make. And he's. Is he championing his own workers? His own work? Well, I'm going to show you about his workers in a second. Do you know what the turnover rate for an Amazon worker is? Do you know what the turnover rate is in an Amazon fulfillment center, Kurt? Do you know what it is? Take a guess. What's the turn? One year. How many people quit?

[Kurt]

I thought it was something like 80%. And they designed it that way because they know when you break and they can get a new person.

[Jimmy Dore]

Good guess, Kurt, but you're wrong. Oh, it's 150%.

[Kurt]

How do you achieve those numbers?

[Jimmy Dore]

Do you know what they do? There was A guy who died at an Amazon fulfillment center. Do you know what they did? They put boxes around him so the other workers wouldn't get distracted and they could keep working.

[Kurt]

That's good. Box him up.

[Jimmy Dore]

That was the second thing they did. You know what the first thing they did was, Kurt? The first thing Amazon did was they clocked him out.

[Kurt]

Oh, well, they have to do that.

[Jimmy Dore]

And I know that because Dave Reinent's. Go back to this.

[Kurt]

He's worried about the nurses.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's worried about the nurses. He's worried about the little guy. He won't pay a living wage to his workers who makes him the richest guy in the world. He has a. A 450 foot yacht that costs $150 million. His support comes with a support yacht that costs 75 mil. A support yacht costs 75. That's how much he. But he, he won't pay his workers a living wage.

[Kurt]

And he's on welfare. He gets government welfare for his stupid.

[Jimmy Dore]

And by the way, those. Yeah, those yachts were tax write offs.

[Kurt]

Yeah, all of them.

[Jimmy Dore]

Why is a nurse in Queens making $75,000 a year, paying 1,000amonth in taxes? That's $1,000 that could be used for rent or groceries. We shouldn't be asking this nurse in Queens to send money to Washington. The poor and working class should not pay any taxes to a government that serves the billionaire class, the war machine, and Israel. Well said. But make no mistake, Jeff Bezos is not saying this because he cares about the bottom 50%. He's saying this to save his own ass, because he understands how unstable the greed of capitalists like himself has made our society. The last time, and I said this before, and I'll say it again, the last time the oligarchs were this unresponsive to the citizens, George Washington picked up a gun and started shooting people.

[Kurt]

I think Jeff knows that. I think he said ubi.

[Jimmy Dore]

And that's why they want to give you. Guys like this want to give you ubi. Elon Musk has talked about giving you ubi. And why do they want to do that? Because they care about you. They want to do that because then they control you. Then you're a slave. Because slave owners made sure you had housing, that their slaves had housing and food, and that's what they're doing. So now they can cut you off. They completely control you. If you step out of line, if you go and protest, they'll say you're a terrorist. And then they cut off your ubi. And so now you won't go protest.

[Kurt]

It's the same reason why you stand for that. Don't worry, your kids will, your kids will. They'll be trained good and ready. Like, I don't know anybody my age who would put up with that. There's a lot, but not everyone. But the young generation ain't even going to know that they shouldn't have to deal with that. They're not going to think they should have free speech or medical care. They're going to be like, oh, I don't serve Lord Bezos and Lord Musk here.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here he is trying to tell you that what he's doing by hoarding all the money at the top, by the way, with the income inequality right now in the United States, I used to say it's, it's worse. It's, it's, this is the worst since the Gilded Age. Now remember what the Gilded Age was? The Gilded Age was that meant that there was a thin patina of glitter on top of shit. That's why they call it a Gilded Age. There's a thin patina of glitter, but underneath everything is shit. And that's what everyone was living in. But the income inequality is worse than the Gilded Age right now. You have to go back to the time of the pharaohs in Egypt to find income inequality as bad as it is in the United States right now.

[Kurt]

That was always the goal. That's why we have a big obelisk in Washington to go back to the time of the pharaohs when income inequality was like that. They all are into that. They're going to be the technological priests of the new society. So instead of a clergyman running your life in medieval times, tech billionaires are going to be that priest class mediating to the AI. Whether you get to live or die, there's going to be real Aztec. I bet.

[Jimmy Dore]

We are not living in a golden age. We are living in the age of capitalist decay where society is breaking down due to the endless greed of the billionaire class. And you have to understand that the billionaire class sits above the government. They're the boss of the government, not the other way around. In China, the government sits above the billionaire class and capital. And that's why China has stuff like health care. They don't go bankrupt when they get sick. They have futuristic cities, they have high speed trains, they have infrastructure. And when they're billionaires, do something against their people, they put them in jail.

[Kurt]

Yeah, they'll execute scumbag billionaire democrats call that fascism. When billionaires don't get to push the government around. The government pushes them around.

[Jimmy Dore]

So listen to Jeff Bezos tell you how much his wealth hoarding and screwing of the workers to make that wealth is helping out the society. Listen to this.

[Jeff Bezos (voice clip)]

If I do my job right, right, the value to soc and civilization from my for profit companies will be much, much larger than the, than the good that I do with my charitable giving. And I think this is an important point to make because people forget or they sometimes don't see that when, you know, when you create something like Amazon and you're saving. I get letters from new mothers all the time that say, like, I have no idea what I would be doing right now if I didn't have Amazon on.

[Eric Schmidt (voice clip)]

Thank you.

[Jeff Bezos (voice clip)]

Or what we did in the pandemic when people could really see what an essential service we provide.

[Jimmy Dore]

Remember what they did during the pandemic was they shut down local businesses and kept Amazon open so I couldn't go to my corner sporting goods store and buy a catcher's mitt for my nephew because they closed that down and screwed that guy. But I could order one from Amazon who had thousands of people working inside of a building. Why is that? That's because capital sits above your government. The billionaires run the government and they screw you. So we can funnel money upward. The money's being funneled upward. It's not. There is a redistribution of wealth happening and it's not going from the top to the bottom. It's going the exact opposite way. I can't imagine he mentioned. I can't believe he mentioned Covid because that was the biggest scam in the history of scams and the money got funneled up. How many new billionaires got made during COVID and how many more billions did he make because they shut down your local store? 41% of all black owned businesses closed permanently during COVID Even Cornel west, that moron, that overeducated idiot didn't realize that until I told him it. And then when I told him it, he still didn't care because he's lived in an ivory tire his entire life. His entire life added to them.

[Jeff Bezos (voice clip)]

And so, you know, this is. Amazon creates tremendous value. And by the way, all companies are creating value of some kind.

[Jimmy Dore]

I want to talk about the value he's creating. Half of Amazon warehouse workers experience food insecurity or housing issues in the prior three months. Half of all Amazon warehouse workers experience food. The richest guy in the world has $150 million yacht. They had to dismantle a bridge in the city that the yacht was built so they could get it out of the canal.

[Kurt]

He rented Venice, the entire town of Venice, the entire city for his wedding.

[Jimmy Dore]

In the prior three over half of his warehouse employees struggled to pay bills. In the prior three months from today, about one third of his warehouse employees use public assistance. So we're subsidizing Jeff Bezos billions. The turnover rate at a warehouse for Amazon, 100 to 150% annually. That's every year they turn over their workforce 150%. Meaning the workforce is largely replaced every eight to 12 months. Every eight to 12 months they have an entire different workforce. This suggests. What does it suggest? Widespread dissatisfaction or difficulty sustaining the long term, the work long term. Is that what it suggests? Let's keep going. Did, did I ask Grok, did Amazon play a role in small businesses closing in main streets and small towns across America boarding up their their businesses and turning into ghost towns? Because I drive through those places doing comedy all the time. Amazon played a big role in accelerating small business struggles and main street store closures. Amazon. So this is him, but he's helping, he's helping the society. Because a pregnant mom can go and get ordered diapers from Amazon and have it delivered to her house by someone.

[Kurt]

Thank you to him. I don't believe that anyone, I don't believe anyone wrote that to him.

[Jimmy Dore]

But it wasn't the only or direct cause. It's part of a larger retail apocalypse driven by consumer shifts to online shopping. Older surveys from 2017 found that 90% of independent retailers reported negative revenue impact from Amazon. So that's every retailer in the country reported negative revenue impact with 28% calling it significant. Many small brick and mortar stores in apparel, books, toys, etc. Lost customers and closed as foot traffic declined the scale of closures. Thousands of stores closed annually. For example, 8,200 stores closed just last year with with boarded up main streets visible in many towns. Chains like Sears, Toys R Us and others filed bankruptcy partly due to inability to compete. The trend started pre Amazon dominance, but accelerated.

[Kurt]

I think his company was always a CIA front because all these scumbag tech worthless animals, every one of them had a non profitable business that made it simply to grab all the market share. So clearly there's an overall goal here, you know what I mean, that they're all working towards so that nurses can one day pee in bottles.

[Jimmy Dore]

So just remember that people like Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, George Soros, they don't do things for you, they do things for themselves. And they use you to pay for it. It's called an upward transfer of wealth. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy dork.com clicking on join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. And it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. So the data centers are all the rage and it's being forced down our throat by Donald Trump. The establishment and local and state government, they're doing it right. So this is, there's nothing been more, it should be more eye opening to people. Now I've known this for at least since 2015 when Princeton did the study that proved that you don't live in a democracy and your vote doesn't matter and that we live in an oligarchy. Because if you don't, if you don't make, if you're not in the upper 10% of rich people in America, what you want never gets reflected back to you in legislation. So we don't live in a democracy, which is why we still don't have health care. You still go bankrupt when you get sick. People are still brainwashed into thinking that private health insurance is a better alternative to Medicare for other people still have no idea. They still, we still get stuck funding endless wars. We still don't. So we still have mass surveillance. We're. And, and we, and we, you know, it's like we're, we have, we're the biggest, the world's largest penal colony. We lock up more people in America than they do in China. And we talk about us being the home of the free in the land of the brave. Well, if people were brave, they would have stand up against this, right? And so, oh boy. I really, it's, it's upsetting, right? You don't live in a democracy. You live in an oligarchy and your vote doesn't matter. You vote. I voted Democrat. I'm a good person. I live in California. 100% Democrat legislator, 100% Democrat governor. And the place is a goddamn shithole. And they don't care about you and they charge you taxes up the wazoo. Highest, I think the highest state Income tax in the country. I'm pretty sure there's nobody taxed more than us. And we pay highest tax for gases to hire this. That's unbelievable what they're doing. And so now they're gonna replace you with a machine and, and you got ass wipes. So I want to go to the. Here's the. Here is the former head of Google. So Google used to have a motto, do no evil. Guess what they did, they got rid of that. You know why? Cuz Google's evil. And it was invented by the Deep state. And so now it's a private corporation just like Facebook. And so they're there to surveil you. And that's what's happening. And they're there to make you. They're there to put a, as Michael Parenti would say, you know, they're there to put a collar, a leash around your neck and stick it to a peg. And most people never stray from the peg. And so they feel like they have freedom and they think they have liberty until you stray from the peg. Then you feel the tug. And I felt the tug a lot, especially during COVID especially during Russiagate, especially during the 2016 primary, especially during the Ukraine war, I felt the tug. A Syrian war, I felt the tug many times. And I had people who consider themselves free thinkers come at me as hard as they could. And when I was at the Young Turks, people who I considered my, some of my best friends came at me when I wouldn't participate in the screwing of the American voter and the American worker by voting for Hillary Clinton. And I told people to rise up against that and vote third party. And so now this is a perfect example of that. Here's this guy who was the head of Eric Schmidt, former CEO. He's gonna find out when he acts because they never actually talk to regular people. So now he's talking to a group of people, students who are graduating college. And they know that they're screwed. They know that they're under mountains of debt. They know they can't afford a house because of a system that he participated in creating for them. And they know they're going to be master veiled. They already are. We're China without, you know what we are? We're China with more street CR and slower trains. That's what the United States is. And except China actually gives their people health care. China actually gives their people jobs. China actually does that stuff. We don't do any of that stuff. They give their people infrastructure. They give their people beautiful parks and cities. And buildings with real arca. We don't do that here. We don't do anything here. This is like a hellscape. Now every city in the country is failing. And so here's this guy, Evil Eric Schmidt. Evil. In bed with the political elite, in bed with the Clintons, in bed with the Trumps, in bed with all of them. And see, of course, I'm saying he's straight out of the deep state. And so former CEO of Google, Eric Schmidt, he gets booed every time he mentions AI because they know it's taken their jobs away. And so watch this. This is this. It just should be fun to watch a guy at least have to feel a little bit of it.

[Eric Schmidt (voice clip)]

Architects of artificial intelligence. Interesting.

[Jimmy Dore]

And you know what he's thinking? These stupid plebes, these stupid, useless eaters. Look at them booing me. They don't know how great I am and how great the tech bros are. These stupid, useless eaters. That's exactly what he's thinking. He has disdain for them. Let's keep it going.

[Kurt]

I thought.

[Jimmy Dore]

Go ahead. What's that?

[Kurt]

Interesting. You guys should boo.

[Jimmy Dore]

It just, it's. Oh, you're booing me. I just, I. I find that very interesting. You're like the first to bring up apex, which is interesting. It's interesting. I haven't thought about. It's interesting. Which is just interesting. You're booing. You say that. You say that because you're booing me. Because you're just interested as you bring up apex. It's just interesting that you're booing me and you're exposing us being controlled by an elite group of rapacious black male pedos. It's just interesting. That's all. I just find. I just find. It's just. It's interesting. It's just interesting. That's all. Just interesting. Which is interesting. Which is just interesting. It's interesting you say that. It's interesting that you say that. What's interesting about it, but that you're booing me. You stupid, useless eaters. So let's start it from the top

[Eric Schmidt (voice clip)]

architects of artificial intelligence. Interesting.

[Jimmy Dore]

Interesting. It's just interesting. It's just interesting.

[Eric Schmidt (voice clip)]

The question is whether you will help shape artificial intelligence.

[Jimmy Dore]

We do not know. The question is how are they going to get a job? Because 50% of white collar jobs, the p. We have to think, you know, those jobs, they're gone. They're all gone. And so that's why I encourage people, don't go to college. College is a scam. If you want. You want it you want to have a real living, go become a carpenter. Everybody always needs a carpenter. And they do great work. And you get to be creative and you get to. How about you go become a carpenter? How about you go become a bricklayer? How about you go become a plumber? How about you go become an electrician?

[Kurt]

Those are jobs that are computers.

[Jimmy Dore]

What's that?

[Kurt]

Learn to hack computers and steal somebody's A.I.

[Jimmy Dore]

how about that? Colleges. Is Cam okay?

[Eric Schmidt (voice clip)]

No. We do not know the precise contours of what this review. If you'd let me make this point, please.

[Jimmy Dore]

If you'd let me make this point. How about we replace this guy with AI because we don't. Why do we need speakers at commencement ceremonies? Why don't we just. Why don't we just replace you? I bet I get a much better speech written by AI Than this guy's coming up. Without telling you that there's an AI

[Kurt]

Jesus you could talk to. I'm sure we can make an AI him

[Eric Schmidt (voice clip)]

choose a diversity of perspectives, including the perspective of the immigrant who has so often been the person who came to this country and made it better. We thought that we were adding stones to a cathedral of knowledge that humanity had been constructed. Constructing for centuries. But the world we built artificial intelligence that reflects those values. The world will be unimaginably better for it.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'll switch sides. He does not know his audience.

[Eric Schmidt (voice clip)]

You are surrendering your agency. We have only seen maybe 1% of what is to come. I'm very proud of this. If you don't care about science, that's okay. Because AI is going to touch everything else as well. Whatever path you choose.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow.

[Eric Schmidt (voice clip)]

The work is done. If you want to learn something entirely new and you want to have a personal tutor in any language, for the cost of an Internet connection, you can have it. You can now assemble.

[Jimmy Dore]

He just keeps going. I mean, could you talk about. That's how little regard he has for the people he's hired to talk to. He just keeps going. He doesn't care.

[Kurt]

He's got to do his dime.

[Jimmy Dore]

Jimmy. Yeah, that's right. Fuck you. Pay me. That's the whole time.

[Kurt]

That's what I do when the crowd hates me. I do my whole time while they hate me.

[Jimmy Dore]

Their fees are paid for this. What's that? Yeah, their fees are paid for this.

[Eric Schmidt (voice clip)]

To help you with the parts that you could never accomplish on your own. When someone offers you a seat on their rocket ship, you do not ask which seat you just get on. The rocket ship is here, let me give you some advice. What a metaphor for us.

[Jimmy Dore]

Let me give you some advice. Yes, let me give you some advice. You should hire some personal security for the rest of your life. That's that. Let me give you a little piece of advice. You should go live in the desert, hire some security. Get 24 hour armed guards and surveillance and cameras or surveil. And whenever you go out in public, you should go around with the armed guards also and wear a bulletproof vest. That's jobs. That's my little advice. What's that?

[Kurt]

The jobs of tomorrow will be to provide security for this guy.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Eric Schmidt (voice clip)]

You bring the judgment. You bring the conscience. You bring the perspective. I'll give you one final reflection. I have come to believe life is not the same as joy. Happiness is derived from meaning. Meaning in your work. Meaning in your relationships. Thank you very much and good night.

[Kurt]

Oh my God.

[Jimmy Dore]

I wish they wouldn't have let him get a word out. So this happened pre. This happened last week too. So this is a bachelor of arts graduation. And they. Here's this. I don't know who this woman is who's speaking, but look, I mean, these people are shocked that they're not excited about the tech bros. Taking their jobs away and their future away. And yet they still have to pay off their student loans without jobs because they made it illegal for you to declare bankruptcy and expunge your student loans. You can get rid of all kinds of debt. That's. That's always been the compact. You can always declare bankruptcy and start over in the United States. Around the world, you could do that. Except you can't get rid of your student debts and you can't get rid of your medical debts. Guess who runs your country? What? Here we go. The rise of artificial intelligence is the next industrial revolution. Oh, well,

[Eric Schmidt (voice clip)]

what happened?

[Jimmy Dore]

What happened? Oh, I reminded them that their jobs are all going to be gone and they still have to pay off their student debt and they can't afford a house. What happened? Oh, what happened is you got exposed as being an out of touch piece of it. That's what just happened.

[Kurt]

Is that the chick from Friends? The blonde chick? Wait, he goes. When someone offers you a seat on the rocket ship, don't ask what seat it is. Just get like in the wheel well or storage luggage.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt]

Just be grateful.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay? I struck a chord. Yeah, that chord would be a F flat. That F is fu.

[Kurt]

All right. Who is this?

[Jimmy Dore]

I don't know who this is. Could. Could you try to find out?

[Kurt]

Dude, imagine you're going to be out in Debt. And you paid for this asshole to come and block.

[Jimmy Dore]

Can you imagine that?

[Kurt]

Your replacement now, AI means Asian Indians, right? I'm kidding. Come on.

[Jimmy Dore]

May I finish? Ah, so funny. You're not gonna have a job. Only a few years ago. Oh, boy. AI was not a factor in our lives.

[Eric Schmidt (voice clip)]

All right?

[Jimmy Dore]

How? How. I mean, at no point did that. There's a. There's a. Even a moment of self reflection. Like, oh, why would these kids who are educated, who are just. Who just got educated by a university in the United States I'm asked to come to. Why would they all ubiquitously be booing the idea that I just don't. They're just dumb, I guess, even though they're college educated. Gloria Caulfield is her name. And who is she? I'm finding that out. But that was at the Central University of Central Florida. All right, fantastic.

[Kurt]

Grateful, like an H1B visa immigrant to receive these tech jobs, you know, Jimmy,

[Jimmy Dore]

she's the Vice President of Strategic alliances at Tavistock Development Company was the commencement speaker. She's again, another useless eater. That's what she is. She's the Vice President of development at Tavista. Get the F and F. So she's

[Kurt]

just a straight up witch. Good.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt]

Burn the witch. I say.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'd say. I say let's see if she floats. Let's see if she floats.

[Kurt]

Let's see if she floats.

[Jimmy Dore]

If she floats, she's a witch. And if she doesn't, she's a good person.

[Kurt]

Okay? Either way, we'll keep America safe. I wanted to swing so far the other way that there's now witch hunts.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm with you.

[Kurt]

All these tech people are witches. You heard me.

[Jimmy Dore]

Dan Bongino. Oh, friend of the show. Friend of the show is I. I haven't seen a case of classic projection, unconscious projection that Carl Jung has taught us about. This is it. There is everything that he's about to say, he could be saying into a mirror. Okay, so let's listen to here. Here was him campaigning against Thomas Massie. Listen to this.

[Dan Bongino]

It's a difficult conversation for me because I really believed in this guy. I did. I supported him.

[Jimmy Dore]

And he didn't change one bit. But I did. As soon as I got power, as soon as I got hired at the FBI, I completely flipped on everything. So that's why it's a difficult conversation for Dan Bongino, because it reveals him to be an empty shell of a person with absolutely no conviction, no character, and no integrity. That's why this is a tough conversation. But now he's going to do the projection for a while.

[Dan Bongino]

Even when you know him and President Trump butted heads. Been good on some issues, but I'm going to tell you something. I have never been as disappointed in a human being in politics.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's been good on some issues. What are the issues he hasn't been good on? He doesn't tell you.

[Kurt]

Oh, this Epstein law that Dan didn't want passed and any of these people.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Dan Bongino]

As I am in Tom Massie, I largely stayed out of that race and made too many comments on it. There's a people in Kentucky who choose who they want if they want Tom Massie. I'm not a resident of that district. I live in Florida. You pick who you want. Got his opponent coming on in just a little bit, about an hour. Last some questions about some issues that matter to you. Constitutional carry, Iran, NATO. However, when I got up there in that position, I could not believe.

[Jimmy Dore]

What was that? Was that position with your ass in the air or were you on both knees?

[Kurt]

It was face down, ass up.

[Jimmy Dore]

Was it face down, ass up? Because that. I think that was the position you're referring to. Right.

[Kurt]

What a punk. He is. What a punk.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's so easy to make fun of.

[Kurt]

That's why he blocked me.

[Jimmy Dore]

He blocked me. He blocked me, but he still tweets about me, which we're going to talk about that in a second.

[Dan Bongino]

I could not believe what a fraud this guy was.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's talking to a mirror.

[Dan Bongino]

I mean, like an epic level fraud,

[Jimmy Dore]

but he's talking to a mirror.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm telling you, I have no dog in the fight. I supported him.

[Jimmy Dore]

He is the dog in the fight. Is that you're a cuck to Israel and everybody know that.

[Kurt]

He said that before he got in. What are you passionate about defending Israel? So there's your dog. That's why you want to hide the Epstein thing.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Dan Bongino]

Absolute fraud. Fraud. He decided to do some money bomb thing and just completely BSing people about my record there. Just lying to your face.

[Jimmy Dore]

You mean that you covered. You covered up the pedos that you said you were going to go in and expose that you told people, don't let up on this Epstein thing. You mean like that?

[Kurt]

Yeah, yeah. Shave, Donkey Kong, Shabbos goy. Oh, wait, I said that. Sorry.

[Dan Bongino]

I tried multiple times to get this guy to come over to give him a briefing on a case he kept bloviating about on Twitter, causing a serious problem, by the way. And I thought he believed in due process. Supposedly a Libertarian wants to try a case on X and he didn't do it. I was there from March until January of this year. You know, many times he came over to visit and asked about these cases. Despite multiple offers cases, he kept bloving about what we could have actually told him. Zero. And there's nothing he's going to tell you. All of his BS responses, his fake community notes, it's all a distraction from the fact that he doesn't want to admit that he was offered a detailed briefing within certain parameters on these matters he's bloviating about on X in order to attack President Trump and others. And due process could have cleared it up for him right away.

[Jimmy Dore]

Meaning we were going to let him know that we have to do the bidding of Israel and keep these files secret, but he wouldn't come over and listen to me tell him that. Okay?

[Dan Bongino]

And he just didn't want to do it because he preferred to be stupid. Nothing will change that. He'll try to distract you with his razzle dazzle.

[Jimmy Dore]

Nothing is going to change the fact that you are a cuck to Israel. Face down, ass up, hundred percent gaping hole. And that you lied to everybody. You lied to everybody about Epstein committing suicide. You lied to everybody. You lied to everybody that there's nothing in the files, which is, I guess, why Trump won't release them. Because there's nothing in them. Tell me how that makes sense. The only way that makes sense is that you're a liar.

[Dan Bongino]

His bot army. Like we haven't been through this before.

[Jimmy Dore]

You know who has the bot army? It's the lone congressman from Kentucky, not the state of Israel. Apec, the adel, idf and the idf, the hostages.

[Dan Bongino]

Think you're the first time we've, that we've, you know, entered into a primary and supported a candidate and had other people come in with the bots and the bullshit. What do you think, we're like newbies at this? I promise I'll far outlast you. I promise.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, I don't know what you mean by outlast because you already quit. You already tucked your tail like a.

[Kurt]

Do I have to make a sock puppet so I can bully him online again? Do I have to? He's making me. He's making me. This is your fault.

[Jimmy Dore]

I have. I. I already have. I have three sock puckets. Puppets already in the chamber. I haven't used them a lot lately, but I'm willing.

[Kurt]

I'm gonna make my own little IDF online Twitter so I can send him my fun AI movies.

[Dan Bongino]

I Make it all but for the guy is a fraud. Anyone telling you otherwise, including him, is lying. He did not want to know. He preferred to be dumb so he could plead ignorance on X and attack President Trump.

[Jimmy Dore]

So I. So I retweeted that. So by the way, this is. This is. This is damn about. You have no idea that nothing I am going to unleash. That's Dan Bongino. He's a nothing.

[Kurt]

Does Bibi fuck his face because his head looks pregnant?

[Jimmy Dore]

His head does look pregnant. So I retweeted this stupid diatribe. He just did. And I said the guy who screamed for years about the Epstein files and promised to expose the Epstein class instead covered up the files and protected the pedos when in power. He is now calling the guy who got the law passed to release those files of fraud. Boggino is a cuck to Israel and for that he blocked me. Aw, he didn't engage me in an actual argument. He just blocked me.

[Kurt]

Well, why did he block me?

[Jimmy Dore]

And that's fine. I block people all the time. I block trolls and I drop people. I block people who bad faith argue.

[Kurt]

But you don't talk about them after you block them, do you?

[Jimmy Dore]

What I don't talk about, I certainly don't tweet about them from behind a block, which is the lowest thing you can do. The grim job. It's a. We call that a grim. We call that a grim job because that's what Ryan Grimm did to me during force the vote.

[Kurt]

Right? It's punk ass does for sure.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so then here's his tweet, including me that he made from behind a block. Oh, no. Now remember, this is how he reacts when he wins. Just keep that in mind. He won. Talk about a sore winner. Turns out that Jimmy.

[Kurt]

Nice the first name, huh?

[Jimmy Dore]

So I. So Bill Mark calls me some guy, he least loses my name. Jimmy Igor. Or do you say Igor Ryan, Jimmy Dave, Igor Ryan. And an assortment of Jew hating life losers, disgruntled libs, sexual deviants, leg humpers, drunks and failed comedians. Wow, that is quite a litany.

[Kurt]

We have failed FBI second in commands.

[Jimmy Dore]

How about yeah, really aren't a great coalition for winning a conservative primary election. IRL Shocker. I don't know what IRL means in real life. Oh, in real life? Yeah.

[Kurt]

In real life you got to cover up Epstein.

[Jimmy Dore]

In real life, you got to cover up Epstein. We didn't ask for this ideological war. They did quite the opposite.

[Kurt]

You asked for compliance is what you asked for, you big headed bitch.

[Jimmy Dore]

And we finished it. Matter of fact, we didn't even invite them to this party. No, what you did was you invited $32 million in Zionist genociding pedo money. That's what you did to convince the smooth brained, over 55 geriatric crowd who watches Fox News to vote against Thomas Massie, a guy they unanimously voted for just two years ago. They invited themselves and when. And then they. They shit the punch bowl and now they're playing dumb as to why we threw their asses out. When you say we, you mean when. Who's we? Me, you and Miriam Adelson and the billionaire pedos. That's who's the we is. Because you know how many you know many donations that your candidate got from inside Kentucky? 70. That's how many donations he got from inside Kentucky. So when you say we, you don't mean the people of Kentucky?

[Kurt]

What does he mean? We threw them out. You still have a very successful show and everybody's. And Dave's still working as. I mean, what is he talking about? I didn't run for shit. I just talk bad about Dan because he's a scumbag.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, here we go. Take your 1940s era agitprop BS and shove it up your A or go back where you came from with your river to the sea terrorist friends. Those radical libs will welcome you back with open arms. Agitprop is their thing. It's their only thing. Oh, also, and standing against a genocide and slaughtering children. There's that.

[Kurt]

What is his thing besides Azure prop? He didn't get anything done.

[Jimmy Dore]

He did nothing.

[Kurt]

You got a podcast again. You got kicked out, Dumb Dumb.

[Jimmy Dore]

You have no idea the nothing I'm going to unleash. You unleash nothing?

[Kurt]

You're the host of a much less successful podcast.

[Jimmy Dore]

Thanks. Have a great rest of your day. And a big thanks to the real conservatives who saw through the bs.

[Kurt]

Okay, put two forks on a table and headbutt them, Dan.

[Jimmy Dore]

He doesn't have a dog in this fight. Just a little side note, don't suggest illegal dog fighting on any level when you're trying to take the moral high ground.

[Kurt]

Okay, Dan, you are the dog in this fight, you Shabbos Goy scumbag.

[Jimmy Dore]

By the way, the word is not Jew.

[Kurt]

Yeah, it's Zionist.

[Jimmy Dore]

Take the Zionist dick out of your mouth while dictating. The word is you. The word is you. We. We stand for you, the civilized world. Dan hates you and all the Zionist toadies who hide behind an ancient religion like their mama's house dress when criticized.

[Kurt]

Right. Assuming means Satanism, scumbag.

[Jimmy Dore]

So I retweeted it. I took a screenshot to take a screenshot because he got me blocked. So that's the ultimate cuck move, is to and pimp move. It's a grim job, is when you block someone and then tweet about them because you're a coward cuck to Israel money. Dan Bongino blocked me because we all know he's a giant pussy. His candidate won and he's pissed. Whose leg did he hump to get thrown out of the FBI? That's the bitterest victory laugh I've ever seen. If this is when Dan is happy, I'd hate to see him when he's unhappy. They've done everything they can to Massie short of killing him. Such big men you are to go get $32 million in billionaire money made off of gambling and genocide.

[Kurt]

You know why he's so bitter? It's the same reason Ted Cruz said, I wish Massie hadn't said that. Because they know that everybody hates Israel extra now.

[Jimmy Dore]

And that's the thing, Dan. This is going to. This is the silver lining is this is unbelievably backfiring.

[Kurt]

I think edge of prop works just fine. I think we should continue it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Jake Shields says you are literally fighting to protect pedos.

[Kurt]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, you are. Well said. Jake Shields. Russell Dobuler, he came in, he said, I'm getting very strong Beta cuck who found out his boss was the pedo he was looking for and then covered it up. Vibes. Anyone else feeling that? Yes. Yes. So this is the Dan Bonjano crash out after he wins.

[Kurt]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

What a. What a demented guy that is. Any anything you'd like to say, Kurt, before we move on?

[Kurt]

I think he was scum from the start, and he just does what he's told to do. Like most of these fights.

[Jimmy Dore]

He does exactly what he's told to do. He does exactly. He's a good boy. Dan Bagino's a good boy.

[Kurt]

Do you wear a T shirt with the Constitution on it on your phony ass podcast? I mean, that's a signal right there. I mean, it's literally a quote about that. Wrapping yourself up in the flag and all that. That's what he is. That kind of scumbag phony.

[Jimmy Dore]

We're here with one of our favorite guests, Tony Heller, an environmentalist, geologist. He's got a BS in geology. He's an electrical engineer, a teacher. He's testified at the first congressional hearing in support of Wilderness in 72. He's got a broad, successful career in science education and engineering. He analyzes climate science claims and is the founder ofrealclimatescience.com. welcome back to the show, our good friend, Tony Heller. Hi, Tony.

[Tony Heller]

Hey, Jimmy. It's good to be here.

[Jimmy Dore]

Now I'm going to show you this. I have this video sped up a little bit. It's about five minutes long. It's about the drought that's happening right now in western United States. And I can't believe that everybody's not talking about it. So let. And I want to come back to you and get you. Get you to tell me all about it. Here we go.

[Narrator (Hoover Dam report)]

Hoover Dam is now the deadliest water failure in recorded history of the American continent. Hoover Dam has gone dark for the first time in 90 years. Lake Mead has dropped to 953ft, 3ft above the elevation where the turbines physically die. Las Vegas is banned outdoor irrigation and drained the fountains on the strip. Arizona has cut farm water allocations to 9% of normal. 40 million Americans across seven states get their drinking water from one river. And that river is barely there. The Bureau of Reclamation used a word in writing that no federal agency uses without lawyers in the deadpool. But here is the detail that tells the real story. The water managers who pulled the kill switch on Hoover Dam on April 9 did not call it an emergency. They called it a foundational system failure. The bathtub ring on Lake Mead is now visible from satellites. 10 stories of missing water carved into the canyon walls. And the snow on the Rockies that is supposed to refill it this spring never arrived. The mountains are bare. The turbines are silent. And the people in charge of the largest water delivery system on the continent are admitting on the record that the climate the system was built for no longer exists. The countdown to April 9 was not a surprise. It was watched. On April 1, Lake Mead sat at 953ft. The minimum power pool elevation is 953ft. That is the entire margin between a functioning dam and a dead one. On April 4, the Bureau of Reclamation convened an emergency briefing with water managers from Nevada, Arizona and California. One senior engineer in the room described it later as the quietest emergency session he had ever attended. Nobody argued, nobody pushed back on the data. They just looked at the numbers and understood what they meant. On April 7th, the United States Geological Survey released a secondary analysis that carried the weight of a verdict. Without significant unforeseen precipitation, which the National Weather Service rates at less than 3% probability before June, Lake Mead reaches deadpool elevation. By late summer, Deadpool is not no power. Deadpool is no flow. The Colorado river physically stops moving through the dam at all. On April 9th, at 10:47 in the morning, mountain time, the Bureau formally suspended hydroelectric generation. The turbine spun down. The power output flatlined. 90 years of uninterrupted operation through World War II, through the post war Vegas boom, through every drought the 20th century produced. And now, silence. To understand what failed, you have to understand where the river actually begins. The Colorado does not start as a river. It starts as snow storms cross the Rockies and drop frozen water across mountain ranges in Colorado, Wyoming, Utah and New Mexico. That snow sits packing down for months at high elevation like a frozen savings account. In spring, it melts slowly, drains into streams, feeds the Colorado river and fills two massive Lake Powell behind Glen Canyon Dam and Lake Mead behind Hoover Dam. From Lake Mead, the water moves downstream to Las Vegas, Phoenix, Tucson, Los Angeles, San Diego and the Yuma Farm Belt. Before what is left of it crosses into Mexico. The Natural Resources Conservation Service publishes a monthly snowpack report for the Upper Colorado. And water managers read it the way a pilot reads a fuel gauge. In April 2026, the number next to the critical zones above Lake Powell was not 10% of normal. It was not 5%. It was 0%. This is where the impossibility ladder begins. No one told you that the previous worst snowpack reading on record was 19% in 2002, during a drought already being called once in a generation. The decade of stress test models that water scientists ran after that year never included a zero percent scenario. No one told you that the spring runoff forecast into Lake Powell now sits at 4% of average, barely a trickle. And a trickle cannot sustain a civilization. No one told you that the bathtub ring on Lake Mead now measures over 100ft tall in places, a 10 story building of water visible from space. No one told you that the dam is doing more than keeping the lights on. Hoover Dam manages flow to agricultural regions that produce roughly 15% of the entire United States food supply. That is not a regional number. That is grocery stores in every state in the country pulling from water that flows through this one structure. And the mechanism of how the dam dies is brutally simple. As the lake drops, the water surface falls below the penstock intakes that feed the turbines. Below 950ft, the pressure is insufficient. The turbines cannot spin. The power flatlines.3ft of water separated the largest hydroelectric facility built in the 20th century from total shutdown. And now those three feet are gone. Dr. Amanda Fielding, senior hydrologist at the Colorado Basin River Forecast center in Salt Lake City, reviewed the April data and use language water scientists almost never use publicly. She did not call it a bad year. She did not call it an outlier. She called it a foundational system failure. Dr. Jonathan Weiss, paleoclimatologist at the University of Arizona's Laboratory of Tree Ring Research, has spent his career reading Colorado river flow history out of 1,200 years of tree rings. His 2025 paper identifies a structural eridification signal, a drying trend so consistent across a millennium of data that it cannot be explained by natural variability. This is not weather, he said. This is the region changing. The mechanism is straightforward. Warming ocean temperatures and jet stream destabilization are displacing winter storms northward into Canada. The mountains wait. The snowpack does not come. Whatever precipitation does fall arrives more often as rain than snow. And what snow does accumulate melts earlier in the season before the reservoirs can catch it. The Rockies are not just receiving less water, they are losing the ability to store it. Integrated vapor transport into the upper Colorado for the winter of 2025-2026 was the lowest measured since satellite monitoring began in the 1980s. Climate models projected conditions this severe would arrive somewhere between 2040 and 2060. The scientists who built those models were not wrong about the destination. They were wrong about the speed. The future did not wait. It showed up 14 years early, decades ahead of schedule. And the Southwest was not ready. Nobody was. Elena Vasquez has farmed the same 600 acres outside Yuma, Arizona, for 31 years. She grows romaine, broccoli and spinach shipped to grocery stores in 47 states. On April 10, she opened her federal water allocation notice for the coming season. It read 9% of historical baseline. She read it three times standing in her kitchen, then sat down and did not move for a while. You cannot grow lettuce on 9% water, she told a local reporter. You can barely keep the dust down. 200 miles north Las Vegas, a city of 2.2 million pulling 90% of its water from Lake Mead, implemented Stage 4 restrictions on April 10. Outdoor irrigation was banned. Hotel pools were drained. The fountains on the Strip are dark. Spring bookings at one south end Hotel dropped 40% in 10 days. In Needles, California residents turned on their taps on April 11 and got reduced pressure and discolored water. No groundwater alternative. No desalination. Just the Colorado. The Metropolitan Water District of Southern California, which serves 19 million customers, has activated emergency reserves designed for short term disruption, not Multi year structural failure. Arizona has projected crop losses this growing season above $7 billion without emergency groundwater substitution. And Colorado State water engineer filed an emergency compact relief petition with the federal government on April 8th. As of this recording, the federal government has not responded. What happens next is genuinely unknown. The 1922 Colorado River Compact divides the river between seven states based on flow measurements taken during one of the wettest decades in the basin's recorded history. The math has not worked for a long time. It is finally publicly breaking in real time. The river that carved the Grand Canyon over 5 million years does not disappear overnight, but it is now diminished beyond anything the people who built this civilization allow themselves to imagine. The political framework is built on assumptions.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let me soak now. Let's first things first. Okay. This is catastrophic. We've never seen anything like this, right?

[Tony Heller]

Well, yeah, it's definitely the worst we've seen in the last century.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. Now, is in your opinion, is this because of climate change or is this because of something else?

[Tony Heller]

I think it's actually a return to the normal climate of the Southwest. The 20th century was actually the wettest century of the last 1200 years in the Western United States. And people developed unrealistic expectations about water availability. If you go back in time, say 1200 years ago, there were droughts which lasted 200 years. Levels of water and Mono Lake were extremely low, much lower than they are now. So this is a pattern which has occurred many times in the past, but during the 20th century was very wet and people just got the wrong idea about what the normal climate is.

[Jimmy Dore]

So, so this actually is normal and what we've experienced in the last hundred years is abnormal. If you look, if you go back, say a thousand years, that's what you're saying?

[Tony Heller]

Yeah. All this growth in California occurred in Arizona and Nevada occurred during a time when there was an unusually large amount of water available. People came to the, you know, mistaken conclusion that that was normal, when in fact it was the opposite of normal.

[Jimmy Dore]

Now, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, Oman, all those countries, the Gulf States, that where we get our oil from, all those countries have desalinization desalination plants. And that's where most of their water comes from. They take water from the sea and they have, they. We know how we have the technology to take the salt out of it. And then you have clean water to use for, for whatever, farming, drinking, living. Why haven't we done that here in the United States? We have the biggest coast in the world on California. Why don't we have desalination plants here?

[Tony Heller]

Well, actually San Diego does, but they haven't been using them. So what's likely to happen is that San Diego will start using them and then they'll sell their Colorado river water rights to Arizona. So, so it is available. They're just, it hasn't been needed until now.

[Jimmy Dore]

So is that, is the San Diego desalination plant enough to offset this?

[Tony Heller]

It's. Well, it's certainly enough to offset the water they're using in San Diego.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Tony Heller]

It's not, it's not going to give enough water to Arizona to help that lettuce farmer in Yuma, but it will help some. The problem is this water is going to be very expensive though, because desalinization is an expensive process.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's it. So. Okay. Yeah, that's the, that's what they've always said. Well, it costs too much to do that. Well, it, it's like it doesn't matter how much it costs. You can't live without water. So we, we would have to put. But they're still not putting. Los Angeles doesn't have desalination. San Francisco doesn't have Las Vegas. Nobody has desalinate. Why don't we do this?

[Tony Heller]

You know, and there was a very bad drought in 1977 and Governor Brown said he was going to start doing desalinization in Los Angeles, but then it got wet for a few years and he forgot about it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, and so you're trying to raise the alarm about this and can cloud seeding fix this?

[Tony Heller]

No. And the problem is with cloud seeding is you have to have clouds. When there's no clouds, cloud seeding is not going to accomplish anything.

[Jimmy Dore]

So what do you see happening, Tony?

[Tony Heller]

You know, to me the most likely. Well, for one thing got to realize is this past year was very, very bad. Next winter is going to be an El Nino winter. And it's possible we're going to get a lot of snow in the Rocky Mountains next winter. It's not a guarantee, but the history of El Nino show that that happens fairly often. Like in 2023, the lakes were very low and we had a huge snow winter and Lake Powell came up like 60ft. So this could be just be a temporary aberration. The long term decline though is very real and sooner or later we're going to have to deal with it. But I think the most likely scenario, I think like we discussed last week, is that they're going to have to move a lot of the agriculture to someplace else like Central America or South, South America.

[Jimmy Dore]

So if the farms in California, which is, you know, we feed the world the country, those farms are going to be no more is what you're saying.

[Tony Heller]

Well, the Central Valley is a different story because they get water from the Sierra Nevada, but the Imperial Valley where they grow the winter vegetables and Yuma where they grow the lettuce, that's they've got a problem because they get their water from the Colorado River. So I think Central Valley is not immediately threatened. What's threatened is the winter vegetable crop and the winter lettuce crop in the United States.

[Jimmy Dore]

And you know, places like Las Vegas, they don't have what I mean. So even in Los Angeles now we're in trouble, right? With. But I don't hear anything about this. I have to go to your Twitter feed to find out about this. Why do you think that is?

[Tony Heller]

Yeah, I'm people are very consumed with what's going on in Iran and other places in the world and they're not paying attention to the very real problems we have here at home.

[Jimmy Dore]

So it's. So you're saying we're looking at a short term catastrophe and hopefully, fingers crossed, the El Nino that's forecasted for this winter will, will fix this temporarily, but it's not going to fix it forever.

[Tony Heller]

Well, it's, I wouldn't necessarily describe it as a short term catastrophe because there's kind of a hidden part of this which most people don't know about and that there's, there's a lot of water in Flaming Gorge Reservoir on the Green river in Utah and Wyoming. And right now they're actively moving a lot of water out of that reservoir into Lake Powell, which may prevent a disaster this year. Flaming Gorge has dropped about 6ft in the last week because they're moving huge amounts of water into Lake Powell and that may get us through the current year and then potentially El Nino could improve things for several more years. So I wouldn't get too alarmist right yet because there is a lot of water in Flaming Gorge Reservoir which can be used to mitigate any catastrophe this year.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, come see me on tour in Atlanta, Raleigh, Spokane, Tacoma, Levittown, New York, Rosemont, Illinois and Chicago, Illinois. Go to Jimmy Dore.com for a link for tickets. Hey, become a premium member. Go to jimmy door comedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performing performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be, and I'll keep being me.

[Eric Schmidt (voice clip)]

Out.

[Jimmy Dore]

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