Judge Issues MASS GAG ORDER In Kirk Assassination Case!

Summary

The Jimmy Dore Show

Episode: Judge Issues MASS GAG ORDER In Kirk Assassination Case!
Date: October 22, 2025
Host: Jimmy Dore
Key Guests/Contributors: Kurt, Former CIA Officer (John Kiriakou), Alec Baldwin (impression), Court Reporter, Candace Owens (discussed, not present)

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Overview

This episode of The Jimmy Dore Show dives into the unprecedented gag order issued in the high-profile assassination case of Charlie Kirk, with particular focus on the suppression of witnesses, potential judicial corruption, media complicity, and broader themes involving government secrecy and foreign interference. Dore and his co-hosts connect these developments to ongoing critiques of the intelligence community, the conflict in Israel/Palestine, and the influence of lobbying groups such as AIPAC. The show blends serious investigative discussion with characteristic irreverence and biting satire.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Alec Baldwin Satire Segment (01:44–07:19)

• Impression bit: Jimmy, as himself, takes a comedic call from “Alec Baldwin,” who tells a wild story about a car crash and pokes fun at family dynamics and celebrity culture.
• Ties into broader show themes of media coverage, public narrative, and personal accountability.

2. The Kirk Assassination Case & the Gag Order (07:33–22:42)

Main Subject: Judge Tony Graff in Utah issues an extraordinary gag order in the Tyler Robinson case (Charlie Kirk assassination).

Details of the Gag Order

• Over 3,000 potential witnesses, including students, family members, legal teams, and the press, are included (08:54–10:28).
• The order is unprecedented and was issued unilaterally by Judge Graff, not at the request of prosecution or defense (15:26, 15:30).

"On October 16, 2025, Graff the judge drops an unprecedented gag order on his own motion. There was no request from prosecutors or defense to muzzle all the witnesses. The judge just did this by himself. Pulled it out of his ass."
— Jimmy Dore (15:26)

Concerns and Irregularities

• Representation issues: Questions over how Tyler Robinson's defense lawyer was selected, raising conflict of interest and fairness concerns (11:06–12:44).
• Foreign Influence: Evidence discussed of Israeli IP addresses conducting Google searches on the involved Utah judge prior to the assassination (13:10–15:26).
• Press Complicity: Outrage at the lack of media challenge to the gag order; fear this is designed to "blackout justice" (15:26–17:17).

"Where's the press corps spine? This isn't protecting due process. It's a blackout of justice."
— Jimmy Dore (16:09)

Media and Influencer Response

• Candace Owens vowed to ignore the gag order and continue her own investigation (12:30, 17:17).
• Online backlash, especially targeting Candace Owens, likened to historical smears against dissenters in other large scandals (19:44–20:52).
• Cat Turd (online persona) accused of trying to silence independent questioning, prompting comparisons to the treatment of whistleblowers and dissenters in past cases.

“That’s how I know Candace is close to the truth. Very well said.”
— Jimmy Dore (20:16)

Discrepancies in Official Narrative

• Dore and Kurt list implausibilities in the prosecution’s case, such as the alleged actions and capabilities of Tyler Robinson (21:12–22:04).
• Reference to connections with tech company Palantir and oddities with the weapon supposedly used.

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3. Israel/Palestine, Geopolitics, and U.S. Involvement (24:37–36:00)

Greater Israel Project & Ethnic Cleansing

• Segments discuss statements by Professor John Mearsheimer and former Mossad and CIA agents regarding Israel’s rejection of a two-state solution and ongoing ethnic cleansing (25:33–28:25, 31:07–33:40).

“The Israelis have already de facto annexed Gaza and the West Bank. Their principal goal now is to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians out of those two areas.”
— John Mearsheimer (25:41)

• Evidence cited of continued Israeli aggression, blockades of aid, and undermining of ceasefires—described as acts of collective punishment and war crimes (29:02–30:23).

False Flag Operations

• Former Mossad officer openly hints at orchestrated missile attacks to justify further military action and the erasure of Gaza, plans for future provocations (32:28, 33:10).

“There’s going to be some missiles coming from Gaza into Israel and they’re going to blame it on Hamas, but it’s going to be their missiles.”
— Jimmy Dore (33:10)

U.S. Politics and Satire

• Mockery of U.S. politicians’ support for Israel, highlighted by a parody performance of “Sweet Home Yerushalayim” (35:46–37:38).

"Whenever I'm in Alabama, I think to myself, this has to be exactly like what Israel's like, except without the humidity. Am I right?"
— Jimmy Dore (37:31)

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4. Intelligence Community Secrets and Corruption (38:08–55:10)

Media and Intelligence Community’s Role in Regime Change

• Discussion with a former CIA officer (John Kiriakou) about the true power and continual intervention of the CIA in U.S. and global politics.

"The CIA is the greatest threat to global stability in the world. No other single organization is involved in violation of law, including our own, more than the CIA. America and the world would be far better and safer place without the CIA."
— Quoting Scott Ritter, with agreement from Former CIA Officer (43:04)

• Ridicule of claims that the modern intelligence community is too “incompetent” for coups; hosts argue the bureaucracy has both layers of ineptitude and deep circles of capable, shadowy actors (46:48–54:34).
• Insights into "continuity of government" contingency planning, underground bunkers, and the selective inclusion of high-level government officials (51:27–52:21).

Financial Black Holes and Secret Programs

• Allegations discussed of trillions missing from federal government, tied to covert projects but dismissed as deliberate theft or hyper-competence (54:12–55:10).

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5. AIPAC, Lobbying, and Political Backlash (56:12–60:13)

• Announcement: Massachusetts Congressman Seth Moulton returns AIPAC money, becoming the first to do so, sparking a rare public complaint by the organization (56:12–58:22).

“No, the extremes is letting your government be run by a foreign country. That’s the extreme.”
— Jimmy Dore (57:17)

• Satirical remarks on the logic of accusing someone of “lacking conviction” for returning bribe money, and calling out AIPAC’s defense of foreign influence as “America’s interest.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Judicial Overreach:
  “On October 16, 2025, Graff the judge drops an unprecedented gag order on his own motion. There was no request from prosecutors or defense to muzzle all the witnesses. The judge just did this by himself. Pulled it out of his ass.”
  Jimmy Dore (15:26)

• On Government and Media Complicity:
  “Where’s the press corps spine? This isn’t protecting due process. It’s a blackout of justice.”
  Jimmy Dore (16:09)

• On Whistleblowers and the Matrix Tactic:
  “Seems the popular Matrix tactic to discredit you is to call you crazy. That’s how I know Candace is close to the truth. Very well said.”
  Jimmy Dore (20:16)

• On the CIA:
  “The CIA is the greatest threat to global stability in the world.”
  Scott Ritter, quoted and agreed to by Former CIA Officer (43:04)

• On AIPAC’s Response:
  “No, the extremes is letting your government be run by a foreign country. That’s the extreme.”
  Jimmy Dore (57:17)

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Key Segment Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | Content/Highlights | |------------|--------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:44–07:19 | Alec Baldwin Satire | Comic bit, light commentary on media and family | | 08:54–12:44 | Introduction to the Gag Order (News Recap) | Details of the court hearing, scope of the gag order | | 13:10–15:26 | Foreign IP Searches, Judicial Setup | Discussion of Israeli IP address searches pre-assassination | | 15:26–17:17 | Media Silence, Call for Legal Challenge | Media complicity, call to challenge the gag order | | 19:44–20:52 | Smears Against Candace Owens | Comparing attacks to historical whistleblower smears | | 21:12–22:04 | Implausibilities in Official Narrative | Inconsistencies in the prosecution’s case | | 24:37–28:25 | Israel/Palestine, Ethnic Cleansing | Mearsheimer, Mossad, and war crimes discussion | | 31:07–33:40 | Mossad Officer on False Flags | Open admission of false flag plans | | 35:46–37:38 | "Sweet Home Yerushalayim" Parody | Mockery of U.S. evangelical pro-Israel support | | 43:04 | On the CIA | Scott Ritter’s condemnation, agreement by ex-CIA officer | | 51:27–52:21 | The Denver Bunker (COG) | Underground government continuity plans | | 56:12–58:22 | Seth Moulton Returns AIPAC Money | AIPAC’s backlash, analysis of lobbying influence |

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Tone & Takeaways

• Tone: Outrage mixed with satire, skepticism, and dark humor. Direct, profane in places, sharp criticism of institutional actors.
• Attitude: Anti-establishment, critical of both U.S. and Israeli political and intelligence entities, supportive of transparency and true investigative journalism.
• Big Takeaway: The Kirk assassination trial, via the severe gag order, is emblematic of wider government-media corruption and suppression. Foreign interference, especially from Israel, is suspected at the highest levels, and the media/political apparatus is portrayed as complicit. Whistleblowers, the rare honest politician, and independent media are lauded for defying this orchestrated silence.

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Conclusion

Jimmy Dore and his team forcefully argue that the imposition of a sweeping gag order in the Tyler Robinson (Charlie Kirk assassination) case is a glaring sign of institutional cover-up, media cowardice, and broader systemic corruption involving the U.S. intelligence community and foreign interests. Through sharp satire, guest commentary, and persistent skepticism, the show positions itself as one of the few remaining outlets willing to challenge the official narrative.

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For Further Listening

• Listen from [08:54] for the core discussion on the gag order.
• [25:33–33:10] for deep dives into Israel/Palestine with academic and intelligence perspectives.
• [38:08–55:10] for insights and stories from a former CIA officer about covert operations and bureaucratic dysfunction.
• [56:12–58:22] for the AIPAC blowback details and broader political analysis.

Transcript

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[Alec Baldwin]

Jimmy, this is Alec Baldwin calling.

[Jimmy Dore]

Friend of the show, Alec Baldwin. Good to hear from you. How you doing?

[Alec Baldwin]

Well, that's why I'm calling, Jimmy. I wanted to let you know I'm just fine. I'm sure you were worried sick.

[Jimmy Dore]

Worried about what?

[Alec Baldwin]

Is. Is it possible you haven't heard?

[Jimmy Dore]

Heard what?

[Alec Baldwin]

Jimmy, you really need to pay more attention to the news. A few days ago, my brother, actor Stephen Baldwin, and I were in a serious car accident.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, no, I didn't see that.

[Alec Baldwin]

I can't imagine how. It was the top headline on the E. Exclamation Point News webpage, which, shockingly, still exists. But like I Said we are both fine, Steven and I.

[Jimmy Dore]

Which Baldwin brother is Steven again?

[Alec Baldwin]

Steven is the extremely stupid one.

[Jimmy Dore]

Ah, right. What happened?

[Alec Baldwin]

Well, he and I were cruising around the Hamptons in my wife Eliaria's suv, and long story short, we crashed head on into a tree. Deploy the airbags and everything. The car is more or less totaled, but we are fine.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow. I'm sure your wife was very relieved that you were okay, but not so concerned about her wrecked car, right?

[Alec Baldwin]

Not really. Not really.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh.

[Alec Baldwin]

But of course, I am so grateful that Hilaria was not in the car. Nor our children. Carmen, 11, Raphael, 10, Leonardo, 8, Romeo or Romeo, 7, Eduardo, 4, Maria Lucia, 4, and Hilaria, 2. Sweet baby Larry. That was not a joke list. Those are their real names in ages.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow.

[Alec Baldwin]

Dios mio. Indeed.

[Jimmy Dore]

So what led you to the crash? To crash into a tree. How'd that happen?

[Alec Baldwin]

Well, we told the police who arrived at the scene that we were cut off by a giant dump truck. Happily for everyone involved, they bought that story. And Jimmy, this is not the first time I have erroneously blamed some misfortune or another on a dump truck. And with God as my witness, it shall not be the last.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, what really happened then?

[Alec Baldwin]

We were both drunk out of our minds.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wasn't this during the day?

[Alec Baldwin]

Jimmy was a Monday afternoon at 3 o'.

[Kurt]

Clock.

[Alec Baldwin]

What else were we supposed to be doing? Let's be grown ups here.

[Jimmy Dore]

So you were just so drunk you crashed into a tree?

[Alec Baldwin]

No, no, I was fine to drive, hand to God. But Stephen, or Tio Stefan, as my children call him, was absolutely blotto, which drove his already compromised intellect down to dangerous lower primate levels.

[Jimmy Dore]

I see.

[Alec Baldwin]

He wanted a particular beef jerky from a particular roadside store. And I told him, no, you have perfectly good beef jerky at home. Tio Stefan, it turns out, would have none of that. He was insistent on his jerky, so he grabbed the wheel and tried to turn it into the parking lot. Unfortunately, the parking lot was about a half a mile down the road. It was then we hit the tree.

[Jimmy Dore]

What a disaster.

[Alec Baldwin]

I told you, Jimmy, My brother's a moron, but he's our moron.

[Jimmy Dore]

Did you tell your wife this?

[Alec Baldwin]

Of course not. Hilaria got the dump truck story too. She has not been in particularly good mood since she got voted off Dancing with the Stars a few days ago.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, that's too bad. How's she taking it?

[Alec Baldwin]

Jimmy? Why do you think I was drinking at Long island with my brother on a Monday afternoon?

[Jimmy Dore]

Gotcha. Enough said there.

[Alec Baldwin]

Of course, after she got eliminated. She immediately came out and said that she was, quote, bullied off the show, referring to comments online and on social media.

[Jimmy Dore]

That has nothing to do with someone getting eliminated from the contest though, right?

[Alec Baldwin]

Oh, don't say that. Don't say that, Jimmy. Apparently that's the number one thing you should not say, because that's also what Dancing with the Stars said. And it turns out my little turtle dove, Ellaria doesn't want to hear that.

[Jimmy Dore]

I see.

[Alec Baldwin]

And of course, this assertion allows her to blame others. Not just the show, but me.

[Jimmy Dore]

You? Why you?

[Alec Baldwin]

You and I should really hang out sometime. Why me? Because I didn't stand up for her enough. What that would look like, I don't really know. Presumably creating several fake Reddit accounts called something like hilaria dancingfan69 and charging into the chat like a white knight.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay.

[Alec Baldwin]

All I can tell you is that her ire is up. Her hot blooded fake Latina hood is at full boil. Jimmy. All vestiges of what remained of her ancestral Protestant resources are now gone. But I'm spending a lot of time traveling, hiding, drinking to excess.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, that's too bad. I hope things improve.

[Alec Baldwin]

I am sure they will not, Jimmy, but thank you. You've always been very kind to me and I appreciate it. The only bit of advice I can give you or anyone else, never marry a fake Latina.

[Jimmy Dore]

Pretty sure I didn't. But thanks, Alec Baldwin and everyone, adios.

[Former CIA Officer]

Establishment media sucks. August lighting.

[Jimmy Dore]

So good luck.

[Former CIA Officer]

We can't afford, while he's commenting this.

[Jimmy Dore]

Watch and see as his jack golf.

[Former CIA Officer]

The medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits him head on.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's the chimney to your show. Candace Owens has vowed to not abide by this gag order. Don't worry about the gag order in the Charlie Kirk case. I plan to violate it on the world's behalf. The things I've discovered in this past week are enough to burn the house down.

[Kurt]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, Charlie was. Charlie was betrayed by everyone. Hey, so turns out that judge that we just talked to you about, that other segment. And if you haven't seen it, go watch that segment because he's very suspicious. A lot of Google searches on this judge from Israel before the shooting isn't that interesting? So he has now an impressive. Here it is. He's got. He's issued a gag order, an unprecedented gag order in Utah. Over 3,000 witnesses, associates of the case, attorneys, family members, and even the press are subject to this gag order, threatened with potential contempt of court. So here, there's a little. Here's a little news report from Utah.

[Court Reporter]

Tyler Robinson's latest court hearing was brief, but some interesting things did happen, including one issue that could impact thousands of people here in Utah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Thousands.

[Former CIA Officer]

Good morning. Court is now in session.

[Court Reporter]

Tyler Robinson was not present for the hearing. Instead, he listened in from the Utah county jail. Lawyers focused on upcoming issues like evidence from the crime scene.

[Jimmy Dore]

There is a substantial amount of discovery in this case, your honor. It's voluminous to say the least.

[Court Reporter]

His lawyers entered their formal appearance and declined to waive his right to a preliminary hearing. Judge Tony Graff has issued a gag order preventing anyone associated with the case from talking about it. It's to avoid pretrial publicity. Already a big problem in a case with massive media exposure involving a high profile figure like Charlie Kirk. But the judge wants to ensure a fairer trial for Robinson. It's also brought up a big issue involving thousands of people.

[Jimmy Dore]

We're seeking some clarification with respect to the phrase all witnesses.

[Interviewer]

Honor.

[Jimmy Dore]

There are a number of witnesses that have yet to be identified that will likely be used in the state's case. This occurred in front of 2 to 3,000 students at Utah Valley University. So we're in the process of identifying those witnesses. And so those individuals are presently unknown right now.

[Former CIA Officer]

The court will rule that as the witnesses become known to each side, that that information is conveyed to abide by this order. Obviously, there are potentially many witnesses, and so it's not the expectation that you would be able to do that up front, but as they become known.

[Court Reporter]

The judge made it clear he wants to ensure Robinson's constitutional rights will be protected as well as the rights of the victim counsel.

[Former CIA Officer]

Regardless of who is watching, whether it is the nation or a single individual, we must fulfill our roles with integrity, civility, and diligence. I encourage each of you to give your very best to this case. Neither Mr. Robinson nor the people of Utah deserve anything less than the fair and impartial administration of justice outside court.

[Court Reporter]

Lawyers declined to comment.

[Jimmy Dore]

Not today. Not today. Thanks, though.

[Court Reporter]

Robinson will be back here in court in person for another hearing on October 30th in Provo.

[Jimmy Dore]

So this seems very sketchy. This all seems very sketchy. Where did that Tyler Robinson's lawyers come from? Could you look it up? Where? Where his lawyer? Do you have any idea, Kurt?

[Kurt]

He's being appointed by the.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, that's what I thought. He was appointed. So. So the prosecution is appointing.

[Kurt]

Well, the way it's going to be framed is the county paid for it. But the bottom line is lots of people want to represent this guy, but they were. They think he's what?

[Jimmy Dore]

But they refused to. Go ahead, Kurt.

[Kurt]

Yeah, he's getting stick. A lot of people think he's getting stitched up that are lawyers, but they won't be permitted to do it. The prosecutor will say who. Who did it. And so wait a minute.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let me just get this clear. So there's lots of people coming forward who want to represent him, but the judge or the county, the government, which is really the prosecutors get to choose who his legal representation is.

[Kurt]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

How could that possibly be?

[Kurt]

Well, the county pays for a public defender, so, you know, it's not ethical at all. But it is legal there. And I don't remember the chick's name. I saw her on a redacted clip and she explained trying to get in touch. She a lawyer? This woman. I was trying to get in touch and got flatly refused because they're not allowing that. So they're going to provide him with his defense. They don't want him defended. They want a nice Ryan Ralph stitch up.

[Jimmy Dore]

Candace Owens has vowed to not abide by this gag order. Don't worry about the gag order in the Charlie Kirk case. I plan to violate it on the world's behalf. The things I've discovered in this past week are enough to burn the house down.

[Kurt]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. Charlie was. Charlie was betrayed by everyone. So she's meaning he was betrayed by the Turning Points usa. He was betrayed by his donors. He was betrayed by the Trump administration. He was betrayed by everyone because.

[Kurt]

Yeah, he's Truman Show. He was living in the Truman Show. Poor guy. Did you see his wife at the rally coming out to pyrotechnics like she's goddamn killed Tony.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. You see that? Yeah.

[Kurt]

Creepy as hell.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let's watch this shocking cover up Utah judges and Kirk's assassinations trial drop secret gag order to silence witnesses. So that's what they're doing. They're putting this. But wait. Israel IP hits on them months before the hit. Judge swap smells like a setup. So just like we've been telling you about, they've been doing these Google searches for everything and everybody inside Utah before the assassination. From the surgeon to the hospital, he was taken to the FBI person, to the judge, to the. To everybody to the. To the shooter, to Tyler Robinson. This is happening. Google searches from D.C. and Israel before the assassination. They were. They were Google searching the lovie center at the university, which is where they say Tyler Robinson was on top of. They were searching everything. So turns out they were also searching this judge in the Tyler Robinson trial for Kirk's Sept. 10 murder. Judge Tory Graff, now presiding, and his predecessor, Robert Loonan, were hit with unique Google searches from the Israeli IP addresses. Lunan on May 15. Graph on July 26. That's my birthday before the assassination. 0. Utah based searches on either until after Charlie Kirk's death. Coincidence or foreign intel scouting. Scouring the bench. Scouting the bench. Lunan retires. So the Original Judge retired August 1st. Graph slides In August 4th, the exact day that the FBI boss in Utah was yanked by Cash Patel. Timings are red. It's a red flag parade. But there's the but. There's. Here's the killer. Here's the killer. On October 16, 2025. Graf the judge drops an unprecedented gag order on his own motion. There was no request from prosecutors or defense to muzzle all the witnesses. The judge just did this by himself. Pulled it out of his ass.

[Kurt]

Oh, I wonder if somebody Google searched Zionist punk and it came up good for him.

[Jimmy Dore]

You know, I'm just trying to figure out, Jimmy, why Does it say December 16, 2025 where. Where it says but here's the killer on December 16, 2025. Graph drops an unprecedented gag order. I get that. That. That meant to be October. I think that's a. That's a typo. It should be October. Okay. Because that's when it got dropped. So. And by no requests from the prosecutors, no request from the defense, he just did it all on his own. To silence witnesses, future lawyers, staff, even non case attorneys in their firms. So it binds lawyers to police witnesses, mouths imputes blame for extrajudicial chatter. Routine in high profile cases, sure, but this one's a sledgehammer on first amendment rights. Tainting jury pools as a pretext while burying both defense should have fought back. Our independent sleuths, you, me and the Charlie Kirk investigative committee are Robinson's best shot at exposing the web. Utah elites, shady vans, patches. But crickets from the media a month in, no challenges from the media on the official narrative, no nothing. Where's the press corps spine? This isn't protecting due process. It's a blackout of justice. Yep, I'm game to. To sue. If there is deep pocket patriot who wants to foot the bill for an attorney. I volunteer to challenge torch this order. Who's in? So. And then you see people like this. So after. After Candace Owens said. I'm not following this.

[Kurt]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Katurd, who does some good work, does some horrible work, which is what he's doing now or whoever Katurd is is doing on the Charlie Kirk assassination. Trying to shut people up and don't ask questions. Don't ask logical questions. Even though we know that the FBI's lying and the official narrative makes absolutely no sense. Cat Turd is out there trying to shame Candace Owens for saying she has more information.

[Kurt]

Did you see what he wrote? Unbound speech. He didn't say free speech. He said unbound speech. You see that?

[Jimmy Dore]

So I'm going to read it to you right now. The gag order. So he's quoting Grok. Cat Turd says the gag order in State vs Tyler Robinson binds over 3,000 potential witnesses from Charlie Kirk's Utah event to avoid prejudicing the assassination trial. Okay. Candace Owens, absent from the gathering and not subpoenaed, faces no direct legal constraint. Her violation pledge is rhetorical bravado for unveiling alleged betrayals. This highlights the farce. Unbound speech clashes with the dramatic frame, with her dramatic framing, risking defamation, counters, but not contempt. So this is what he's saying, is that she's not even covered by this. That's what he's trying to say. And she's just doing this for clicks. That's what. That's what. The only person looking into this and asking legit questions and outing that all the lies that TPU USA and all the Bill Ackerman lies, all the lies that Cash Patela. So she's debunked most of them, but he's still mad at her and says that she doesn't have. This is all just for clicks. She's not even covered by this gag order. But as Coach Collins says, I'll read it to you if you can't see it. Coach Collins says the judge actually wants the press to be a part of this order. Quote associates of the case in what he said. And that's a very loose phrasing. Also, if you have information from a witness or from the plaintiff or defendant, you would also be gagged. Nice try, though, he says to Kat Turd. Nice try. The judge is trying to gag everybody and Candace Owens included. And then Kat turn, he tweets out this and says Candace Owens is crazy. So this is what they do. This is what they did to me during Seth Rich. This is what they did to me when. During Russiagate when I was debunk that the Russia had hacked into the DNC server. They called me crazy. They put me in a hit piece in Washington. That's what they do. This is to shut you up and I like. This is one of my favorites. Candace is crazy. Really? Like Kanye was crazy? Like Dave Chappelle was crazy? Like Katt Williams was crazy. Yeah, just like everyone who Was Right About COVID 19 was also called crazy. Seems the popular Matrix tactic to discredit you is to call you crazy. That's how I know Candace is close to the truth. Very well said.

[Kurt]

Well said. I would say Kanye.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, Kanye. Kanye may be a bad, but we.

[Kurt]

Don'T have to say that Kanye wasn't crazy. I know people love Kanye. Hey, great music. I love that one where he gave his cousin head. But come on, Kanye is a narcissist. Let's not.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, he could have left out Kanye and. And it had been just as. Just as powerful.

[Kurt]

Maybe don't make a swastika T shirt.

[Jimmy Dore]

You know, maybe.

[Kurt]

Maybe don't do that. But anyway, I think he's a. Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Let'S not make this about Kanye. Okay, enough talking about him. So anyway, the gag or everything is just everything in this case is suspect. You really think Tyler Robinson, who by the way, doesn't look anything like the picture they said he is right. It's not the same guy. Somehow he had a World War I rifle. He somehow tucked it in his shorts and climbed up a building that he'd never been to, never been on, assembled it, then took the shot, changed his clothes, unassembled it, left a screwdriver there that he would need to assemble it. So he left his fingerprints, then puts it back in his pants or something, jumps off the building, then changes his clothes again in the woods, reassembles it without the screwdriver, without the screwdriver, reassembles it, wraps it in a towel, leaves it there. And by the way, it's on the property that's owned by Palantir. So if. If you're not allowed to ask ask obvious questions about this, cat turd will say you're crazy. If any of any of that stings, cat turd, if any of that stinks to you, cat turd is going to tell you you're crazy.

[Kurt]

Oh, spoken like a foreign Israeli trying to pretend to be an American who harps on left wing bullshit but really works for Israel. That you are cuckoo. That's not really clever, is it? Or good in any way. No, it sounds kind of like a little behind. Like a foreigner made it like. I know how people in Israel talk and that would be more of an insult there. That's how it comes off to me.

[Jimmy Dore]

Where's the picture?

[Kurt]

I don't see Nobody there. Oh, it's you. Don't show who you are.

[Jimmy Dore]

Anyway. Good for Candace Owens. This whole thing stinks to high heaven. And keep going, Candace. I'm behind you.

[Kurt]

If you're not looking at the evidence is because you don't want to. Okay. And a lot of people don't forget are being paid to make this stupid about 7k a month, according to BB Milkowski. Remember?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yep.

[Kurt]

He announced they're going all out because they know they lost all the kids with their disgusting blood orgy they just conducted.

[Jimmy Dore]

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[Former Mossad Agent]

Suddenly they sent some missiles. Our people send missiles from inside. And then they said, oh, there is a missile from Gaza.

[Jimmy Dore]

So did you hear what he just said? What he's saying is there's going to be some missiles coming from Gaza into Israel and they're going to blame it on Hamas, but it's going to be their missiles. So Professor John Mersheimer reveals the two state solution is a lie. He confirms Netanyahu and the Israeli public are united in rejecting it to pursue a greater Israeli. Oh, Israel Really? I'm a little taken aback that anyone wouldn't know the two state solution was a lie at this point. Surely even Jon Stewart has figured that out.

[Kurt]

I think he has.

[Jimmy Dore]

And to Israel, all of earth is a two state solution and they're working on that. So, you know, so here's Mersheimer.

[Interviewer]

I mean, Prime Minister Netanyahu has made it unequivocally clear on countless occasions that there's not going to be a two state solution.

[Jimmy Dore]

He has, but what if he's not there?

[Interviewer]

It's a position that's widely shared in Israel. And after what's happened over the past two years, do you think any Israeli is going to be interested in a two state solution? Probably the number you can count on one hand. It's just not going to happen. The Israelis have already de facto annexed Gaza and de facto annexed the West Bank. Their principal goal now is to ethically cleanse the Palestinians out of those two areas.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's it. Hey, just a random thought, but remember how Putin was a madman who wanted to restore the Soviet empire? Remember that? I don't know why that pops into my head every time Bibi Milkowski and the Greater Israel Project comes up, but it does.

[Kurt]

Yeah, it's weird how it does. Some madman expanding for territory and then once they got Gaza onto Lebanon and Syria and I guess the ports of Iraq, they wanted. Right.

[Jimmy Dore]

So this is not happening. Israel is not changing. This peace, temporary ceasefire does not. They're going to continue to ethnically cleanse and take over Gaza and the West Bank. That's it. Here's the resident says, I think you greatly underestimate how deeply committed the Israelis are to ethnically cleansing both Gaza and the West Bank. If President Trump gets tough with Prime Minister Netanyahu, Netanyahu will just turn to the lobby and they will force Trump to back off. Let's listen to him say it. Let's listen.

[Interviewer]

I think you greatly underestimate, Piers, how deeply committed the Israelis are to ethically cleansing both Gaza and the West Bank. The Israelis now have a situation where there are roughly as many Palestinians as there are Israeli Jews inside of Greater Israel. And this is an unacceptable situation for most Israelis, and they're completely committed to ethnically cleansing Gaza and then the West Bank. I think the evidence is overwhelming on this. Now, you say President Trump sees this as a great opportunity to prove that he's a statesman and he can bring peace to the Middle East. I think in principle that he'd love to do that, but I've written a Book with Steve Walt on the Israel lobby. And there's absolutely no question in my mind that if President Trump gets rough with Prime Minister Netanyahu, Netanyahu will turn to the lobby and the lobby will force Trump to back off. There's no way Trump is going to get tough with Netanyahu if he violates the ceasefire. Remember, he did that on March 18, so.

[Jimmy Dore]

Or Israel just might forget about the lobby and set off one of the hidden devices they have in several locations in our country. That the reason John F. Kennedy didn't want them to have nuclear devices. So has Piers Morgan not heard of mowing the lawn? I find that hard to believe.

[Kurt]

I know a well informed guy like him.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let's listen.

[Kurt]

Israel is still limiting the number of aid trucks allowed to enter Gaza. It's only permitting 300. That's half the agreed number under the Trump plan. Israel accuses Hamas are violating the ceasefire deal over the return of captives bodies.

[Jimmy Dore]

So. But Israel would never violate a deal or a law or a treaty. I'm kidding. Obviously they suck.

[Kurt]

So they're obviously historically the worst.

[Jimmy Dore]

So now they're only letting in half the aid. They're already starving and they're already saying exactly as we predicted. They're going to say Hamas is not. Has broken the cease. Of course that's what they say. Saul says. So Israel continues to starve people in Gaza because they claim Hamas hasn't done something. That's the definition of collective punishment, which is a war crime. Wow. This is. Wow. You can't make a deal with the Zionist. Just keep that in mind.

[Kurt]

Well, Hitler did.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, yeah, worked out for Hitler. The UN says Israel is committing war crimes in Gaza having killed 15 Palestinian civilians since October 10th despite a ceasefire coming into effect. That's the UN. UN says Israeli forces continue to kill civilians in Gaza despite the ceasefire. Did anybody doubt that that's what was going to happen? I mean, what's the point of blackmailing 90% of the US government with a pedo ring if you can't starve as many Arab kids as you want?

[Kurt]

Yeah, what's the point to do to kids, you know, who's to say?

[Jimmy Dore]

Branco says after immediately violating the ceasefire and killing nine Palestinians going home, Israel continues the starvation plan by claiming Hamas is the violator. This is why Trump didn't get the peace prize. The ceasefire means nothing if he doesn't force Netanyahu to abide by it. Which he's not. He's not. He's not. Well, they did. They. They did give a Nobel Prize to Yasser Arafat. No fair. Here's a former Mossad agent. Here's what he says. Feel we finished the job.

[Former Mossad Agent]

We will never finish the job because we always have new enemies.

[Jimmy Dore]

Why didn't we take Khomeini out? We always have new that. So that's an Israeli guy. We'll never finish the job. We always have new enemies. Should you at least consider that the idea that it, it just might be you?

[Kurt]

If you always have new enemies?

[Jimmy Dore]

If you always have new enemies, do you think it might be you as you bomb eight different countries at once? Okay, here we go. Feel we finished the job.

[Former Mossad Agent]

We will never finish the job because we always have new enemies.

[Jimmy Dore]

Why didn't we take Khomeini out?

[Former Mossad Agent]

I tell you what. Because he's not just a regular leader, he's a religious leader. And it's different.

[Jimmy Dore]

You start a religious war, okay?

[Former Mossad Agent]

And they can replace him. And you know, sometimes if you think about Tehran, it looked like we suddenly stopped and we made this ceasefire. But come on, let me compare it to Lebanon, okay? Because it was exactly when we entered to Lebanon, to the south of Lebanon, and we destroy so many buildings with missiles and the Dahya and everything. And suddenly we got a ceasefire. There is no agreement. We just have a ceasefire. I remember they spoke about two months and then they extended one month. And now we are acting almost every day in Syria, in Lebanon, post Iran attack.

[Jimmy Dore]

We're certainly living in a safer world today, of course.

[Former Mossad Agent]

And I hope that we will have another attack. We'll attack them and they will attack us. Let me tell you something about Gaza. Yeah. That at the end of the day, after we bring all the hostages, we will have agreement. But there is something that stronger than this agreement, when Gaza will forever pay for this terror attack.

[Jimmy Dore]

What do you see as the future for Gaza?

[Former Mossad Agent]

No future.

[Jimmy Dore]

Parking lot, a dumping ground.

[Former Mossad Agent]

What's a creative idea? I do, okay, we have agreement. Suddenly they send some missiles. Our people send missiles from inside. And then they said, oh, there is a missile from Gaza.

[Jimmy Dore]

So did you hear what he just said? What he's saying is there's going to be some missiles coming from Gaza into Israel and they're going to blame it on Hamas, but it's going to be their missiles.

[Kurt]

He's not against it. He hopes there will be another attack. He just said, yes. He's not condemning this. He's saying this is the plan.

[Jimmy Dore]

This is the plan.

[Former Mossad Agent]

So now we can answer them.

[Jimmy Dore]

So you think that's also something that's possible?

[Former Mossad Agent]

Everything is Possible we are going to erase Gaza. We have to take the people there and send them to Libya.

[Jimmy Dore]

And what happens with the land itself? Forever a monument to destruction.

[Former Mossad Agent]

First of all, we have all the tunnels we need to clean the area and we can build a big port that you can make a lot of business with. The Abraham Accords. And Trump got a mission to close all the war situations all over the places. And he want to move forward with the Abraham Accords and he want to include new countries, talking about Lebanon, Syria. But at the end of the day, Trump is great for us. I saw a few years ago a film. It wasn't the true story, but the deputy tried to blame the chief of CIA that he's trying to kill the President of the United States. And there is a scene that the president is playing it in golf, you know, in isolated area with green and trees in the middle of a wood, and suddenly you see a track and they open the roof. Many, many, many drones. And each one of them can recognize the face.

[Jimmy Dore]

You think Hollywood is sort of a precursor to some of these things.

[Former Mossad Agent]

I can tell you that we used to watch James Bond films and take ideas for Mossad operations.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's the result of someone who's never had to face consequences for anything. They talk about it like it's normal, and they don't even understand that you don't see it that way. They think you're just like them because they are living mascots to narcissism. Wow. So here, this is the Greater Israel Project. It stretches into Egypt, it stretches into Saudi, rift. Stretches into Iraq, stretches into Syria, Lebanon. That's the Greater Israel Project. And here's Trump's current and former U.S. ambassador to Israel. Mike Huckabee and David M. Friedman performed a rendition of Sweet Home Alabama in Israel titled Sweet Home Yerushalim, which is a Hebrew for Jerusalem.

[Kurt]

Elon Gold singing. The comedian Elon Gold.

[Jimmy Dore]

Is that who that is?

[Kurt]

Yeah. The singer is Elon Gold. I know him.

[Jimmy Dore]

No.

[Kurt]

Yeah, Elon Gold. We'll see.

[Jimmy Dore]

Turn it up a little. Okay. Torah scrolls keep on turning Just two days and we are through.

[Former CIA Officer]

Then we.

[Jimmy Dore]

Start from the beginning Hashem's holy words begin anew we all have come to help Hatzalah and we want to help it thrive Based right here in God's holy city throughout this land it's saving lives Sweet home Yerushalayim yeah Where God's words ring so true Lord, I'm coming home to you okay, I had enough.

[Kurt]

Jesus Christ.

[Jimmy Dore]

I can't take that wow.

[Kurt]

Jesus, that was. I mean, you better hope Hashem's not real, because I. I would strike you down if I was him.

[Jimmy Dore]

You know. You know what? It makes sense because whenever I'm in Alabama, I think to myself, this has to be exactly like what Israel's like, except without the humidity. Am I right? And what a waste of talent that Mike Huckabee went into politics. He has the makings of a rock star. I don't mean the actual job title. I mean the energy drink.

[Kurt]

I assume he took over the crack operation from Clinton when he was governor. That's what I just did. Zoomed.

[Former CIA Officer]

I worked at the CIA. It's a big, lumbering bureaucracy with a lot of stupid people. And it's. It's not like it is in the James Bond movies where everybody's like, wow, right on top of their game. No, there are a lot of dopes.

[Jimmy Dore]

Let me just show you this, and I just want to get your. Your response to it. So this is Jank Uger from a place I used to work, Tyt. And here's what he says about, like.

[Interviewer]

In the old days, man, they.

[Jimmy Dore]

They could do some. So he's interviewing a guy, I think, who has written a book on the CIA. And watch this. So in the old days, he says, who's. Yeah, yeah.

[Interviewer]

Now I believe we have the opposite problem.

[Jimmy Dore]

They're not evil enough. He's talking about the CIA, that they used to really be bad guys, but now they're not evil enough.

[Interviewer]

Let's, like, not doing anything, right? But are they risking their lives to infiltrate. I mean, no, we never infiltrated Al Qaeda. I mean, that's unbelievable to me, right?

[Kurt]

A little bit.

[Jimmy Dore]

Not only did we infiltrate Al Qaeda, we invented Al Qaeda. And now Al Qaeda is being welcomed. They did our dirty work in Syria. We paid them, and now they're doing. They're welcomed by the Secretary of State and the former head of the CIA in the United States in front of room fulls of dignitaries. So what? Well, I'll play a little bit more, then I'll get your response. We never even infiltrated Al Qaeda. We invented them anyway.

[Kurt]

Why would he have to do that? Why would he have to infiltrate China invading Taiwan?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Former CIA Officer]

Embarrassing for our intelligence. Intelligence community.

[Interviewer]

No, they don't want to.

[Jimmy Dore]

So this. Whoever this genius is, says it's embarrassing for our intelligence community that they didn't infiltrate. It's a real interview. This really happened.

[Interviewer]

Want to go through that risk? That's. That's my assessment. They're willing to take some risk. But not risk their lives. But that's. That's the CIA. That's. You're supposed to do that. And hopefully in the service of US Citizens.

[Former CIA Officer]

In fact, a lot of people you'd meet that. Oh, my God, that's Barry Eisler.

[Jimmy Dore]

Is that who that. Who's that? Tell me who that is.

[Former CIA Officer]

Barry Eisler is a former CIA officer. I interviewed Barry this morning. Barry's a former CIA officer who went on to be a prolific and very successful author of espionage fiction.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, that is sounds like fiction. What he's saying right there to Cenk Uygur, that it was embarrassing that this intelligence community did not infiltrate Al Qaeda. So you obviously don't agree with that assessment, right?

[Former CIA Officer]

No, Yeah, I disagree with you slightly, and I'll explain why. I don't think we invented Al Qaeda. I think we foolishly made a decision. Once Al Qaeda became the organization, it became. It partially morphed from the mujahideen. Yes, but we armed them.

[Jimmy Dore]

So we armed the mujahideen, which morphed into the Al Qaeda.

[Former CIA Officer]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

And as Hillary Clinton said, we created them. She said that in congressional testimony? Pretty much, yeah.

[Former CIA Officer]

I think we were directly responsible for the. For the creation of isis, but that's a separate issue. But we foolishly believed that we could then. We could then manipulate Al Qaeda to the point where we could get, for example, the 911 hijackers who had already arrived in the United States to turn against what we called Al Qaeda base. Al Qaeda, the leadership. Osama bin Laden, Ayman al Zawahidi, Muhammad Atef. He was the number. The number three. The military. I think he was Amir for Military affairs or some stupid title like that. It was naive. It resulted in the deaths of 3,000Americans in one day, plus 2 million Muslims and another 8,000 soldiers after that. Yeah, it was just. It was stupidity. Okay, stupidity. But let me add one other thing.

[Jimmy Dore]

Sure.

[Kurt]

Check.

[Former CIA Officer]

Weger. I'm sorry, Chuck Wigger is an idiot. He's always been idiot.

[Kurt]

Have you heard his position on sex with horses yet?

[Former CIA Officer]

Well, listen, you're asking a Greek to comment on a Turk, so already I'm on a thin line here. But. But he's so arrogant that he wants us to believe that when the CIA makes a decision to do something or the CIA takes a policy position, the first thing they have to do is they have to call, check weaker, and explain what they're doing. It's like, that's not the way espionage works, you moron.

[Jimmy Dore]

So. So I just. Well, let me show you this, let me show you this. Hang on, there's. I have so much here. So here's what Scott Ritter says. Let me introduce you to the Special Activities Center. The CIA may be incompetent, that I grant you. But to say they don't carry out covert action designed to undermine, overthrow the governments of sovereign states is a whole new level of stupid. The CIA is the greatest threat to global stability in the world. No other single organization is involved in the violation of law, including our own, more than the CIA. America and the world would be far better and safer place without the CIA. Do you have anything to say about Scott Ritter's assessment of that?

[Former CIA Officer]

I agree with every word of that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. I do question the idea.

[Former CIA Officer]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I know him well.

[Jimmy Dore]

So the idea that the CIA doesn't overthrow, that's crazy, right?

[Former CIA Officer]

It's crazy. It's. It's like. It's. It's. Task number one is to overthrow government. They've been doing it since the Italian election of 1949.

[Kurt]

Let me came in and said, Scott Ritter. And he was talking about how the inner agency didn't want to hear the truth about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. What's the inner agency? Because I don't think they're incompetent. I think they compartmentalize. You're allowed to look at what you're allowed to look at, much like everybody here in America now. And nobody can see. I talk to people that have. And they don't know about things that have been disclosed already, such as MK Monarch, which I thought they would never disclose. We had a guest on who sent us the link in 2024. NSA archives.

[Former CIA Officer]

I wrote a paper.

[Kurt]

By name?

[Former CIA Officer]

Yeah, by name.

[Kurt]

Yeah.

[Former CIA Officer]

So MK Chick, the people.

[Kurt]

Who's the interagency. Who is that? Huh?

[Former CIA Officer]

Yeah. Where do I even begin? I'll give you.

[Kurt]

I'll give you Monarch.

[Former CIA Officer]

I'll answer your question by telling you. By telling you a story. When I got back from Pakistan, I was. I was promoted on the. On the strength of the Abu Zubaydah capture, which I'm now ashamed of because the man was utterly innocent of any. Of any crime against the United States. And I've consistently called for his release from Guantanamo. He's been there, he's been in our custody for 23 and a half years now. Never been charged with a crime. But anyway, I got promoted when I got back and I was named the executive assistant to the CIA's deputy director for Operations. In that position, you see literally everything that the CIA is doing around the World, you have to sign. I had to sign a half a dozen new security agreements just to start work on my very first day. So we were getting ready to attack Iraq, and a cable came in that was not just sensitive, it was from one of these special compartments. But it was actionable. Like, I needed to act on it now. Well, it came in a minute before my morning briefing of the Deputy Director and all the associate Deputy directors. So I went up to the office and I said, well, we have to start the briefing today with an incredible cable that just came in in the such and such compartment. And the Deputy Director says, stop. He says, you and I are the only people in the room cleared for this information. Which the room included the Associate Deputy Director for Operations, the Associate Deputy Director for Policy Planning, the Associate Deputy Director for Counterintelligence, the Associate Deputy Director for Counterterrorism. It's like, are you kidding me? So there's a smaller group than this little group?

[Court Reporter]

And there was.

[Former CIA Officer]

So he said, I'll take the cable. I'll brief the director. So I just handed it to him. And everybody was kind of doing this, like, pretending that they hadn't heard any of this. I was shocked. And then when everybody finished their. Everybody just says what they're working on that day afterwards, he said, close call. I said, I just assumed that if you're one of the top eight leaders of the CIA, you're cleared to know what the CIA is doing. And he said, yeah, it's kind of funny, wouldn't you.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's amazing. That's. I wonder. So let me play one more video in this vein. Talking about the ridiculous things that people think believe about the CIA today. Let's listen.

[CIA Analyst]

There was a time in America where the State Department would carry. The Pentagon would orchestrate and carry out coups in Latin American countries, for instance, or in Iran. Like, there was a time when the government engaged in all sorts of unsavory schemes across the globe. That's definitely true.

[Kurt]

Okay.

[CIA Analyst]

That's not the government we have today. How does anyone look at the. Honestly, I don't think the current federal government is even competent enough to carry out a coup. I mean, they tried multiple times in Venezuela and failed. Failed. And like the way, like the. Some of the MAGA Republicans quite honestly talk about the federal government makes me think, oh, my God, they're asleep at the wheel. They don't understand just how incompetent the federal government is. They can't get anything straight. They can't get anything straight. And you guys think that they're like, they're wiretapping you, and they're scheming, and they're planning on throwing Tucker Carlson in prison for talking to Vladimir Putin. Really?

[Former Mossad Agent]

Yeah.

[Kurt]

Come on.

[Interviewer]

Look, man, I interviewed the CIA agent a long time ago, but now nearly 10 years ago. It was a really amazing interview. She told me about honeypot schemes and stuff and how they trick their targets into thinking that they're gonna get a sexual relationship. Like, it was an amazing, very candid interview. And she's like, look, this whole thing and that Deep state stuff on the right wing hadn't started yet. She's like, the number one problem with the CIA is they've become bureaucrats.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so I just would like to get a CIA officer's response to that kind of ridiculousness.

[Former CIA Officer]

It hurts my brain. It really does. I mean, listen, you can even go on Wikipedia and they'll give you a laundry list of all the regime change operations that the CIA is known to have been involved in. What makes these guys think that the CIA is not at least as dangerous as it always has been? It's a mystery to me.

[Jimmy Dore]

Edward Snowden revealed that they're tapping everyone's head.

[Former CIA Officer]

And Joshua Schulte. They didn't give Joshua Schulte 40 years for nothing. Because he talked about nothing. Because he talked about exactly what it is that the CIA is out there doing around the world, including in the United States.

[Jimmy Dore]

And look what they're doing to Julian. This was at the time. They're prosecuting Julian Assange. They're saying something like this. It's like, you kidding me?

[Former CIA Officer]

You are exactly right.

[Jimmy Dore]

They got his. They got his toilet bugged.

[Former CIA Officer]

Literally.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, literally.

[Former CIA Officer]

They bugged the toilet.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Former CIA Officer]

And they didn't just walk in and do it. They got the Spanish intelligence service to hire this company. And the company was working with the Israelis, and the Israelis were working with the Brits, and. Come on. A lot of moving parts.

[Jimmy Dore]

A lot of moving parts. Okay, hang on, Kurt. I can't. Why can't I hear him? Go ahead, Kurt. What?

[Kurt]

Okay, the Deep State. I can't repeat this enough. Peter Dale Scott, Berkeley leftist professor.

[Former CIA Officer]

Yes.

[Kurt]

Is the guy who invented the term Deep state after he studied it for 50 years. That's right. It's not a right wing thing. It came from a leftist Berkeley professor who also talked about cog, which none of these people talk about Continuity of Government. In fact, I'd like to know from John, how much of this stuff do they do under cog? Because Ali north hearings are talking about it. The shooting of Trump when everybody was lambasting that Kimberly. What's her name? She's from cog, the head of the Secret Service. When Trump got shot the first time. How much of this is, like, COG stuff? And do they keep it away from the CIA that way or.

[Former CIA Officer]

Yeah, that's a great question. Oddly enough, the CIA has nothing to do with cog. They keep the CIA out, which is smart, because you don't want the CIA to be leading the country in the event of a disaster, especially when you're gonna have to question whether the CIA had something to do with the disaster. Right. But, yeah, continuity of government is probably priority number one, which is one of the reasons why COG came out into the news this week. Because literally everybody. I don't know that this has ever happened, at least not in my lifetime. Literally everybody in the constitutional line of succession went to the Charlie Kirk Memorial Service. Literally everybody. What would have happened if a nuclear device had gone off in that stadium? Literally the entire government would have been wiped out. So we would have been ruled by what, a military junta?

[Kurt]

The guy from energy or something?

[Former CIA Officer]

Yeah, yeah, right.

[Kurt]

From Denver. That's what's under the airport.

[Former CIA Officer]

Yeah, exactly. There's one in West Virginia at Mount Weather. Yes.

[Jimmy Dore]

What is underneath the airport in Denver.

[Kurt]

The new capital for COG in case of a nuclear war? You know, the. The Dr. Strangelove underground thing where they all sit around? That's what's in Denver.

[Former CIA Officer]

That's why there's one in Denver and there's one on the Virginia, West Virginia border called Mount Weather. It's a hollowed out mountain, and that's where. That's where the designated few are supposed to be taken in the event of a nuclear conflict.

[Jimmy Dore]

No kidding.

[Kurt]

What about congressional picnic in 2012 when a solar flare almost hit us? And they would have went in there and left you to fry.

[Former CIA Officer]

You know, they gave us a tour. When I first joined the CIA, they gave us a tour of Mount Weather. I actually never believed Mount Weather existed. And then they took us inside, and I was like, you've got to be kidding me. So this is real? And they were like, yeah, it's real. And they're very specific about who gets to go. It's much smaller than you might imagine. So it's.

[Kurt]

I imagine it's very small.

[Former CIA Officer]

It's very small. The President, the vice President, Secretaries of State, Defense, the national security adviser, a couple of the very top congressional leaders, the majority leader, minority leader, the speaker of the House, and their families, their immediate families. And then that's it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, what do you say. What do you say about Katherine Austin Fitz when she says that they've been. They've somehow stolen $20 trillion from the federal government and they build these underground cities to sustain the elite? Have you heard her talk about that?

[Former CIA Officer]

Yeah, I've heard her say that. I don't think that's true. First of all, I just don't think people are that smart. I really don't. I worked at the CIA. It's a big lumbering bureaucracy with a lot of stupid people. And it's not like it is in the James Bond movies where everybody's like, wow, right on top of their game. No, there are a lot of dopes. I was just telling a friend of mine yesterday, we were getting ready to go on. This is the honest to God's truth, We were getting ready to go on a raid in Pakistan. We're going to raid an Al Qaeda safe house. And I remember saying, where's Chris? Oh, Chris couldn't come. What do you mean he couldn't come? That's why he's here. No, it turned out Chris beat his wife. So we have this rule, if you get caught beating your wife, you can't carry a gun. So he can't go on the raid without a gun. I said, okay, where's Jimmy Now? Jimmy got psychovaced, psychologically evacuated. I said, why? He went nuts this morning. Like, all right, all right, let's just. Let's just go with what we have. So it's not like the James Bond movies. Everybody's either nuts or stupid or slow or they have been in headquarters for 10 years because they're cowards and they're afraid to go overseas. And it's easier to get promoted at headquarters. It's not like what people think that. It's this, you know, tip of the spear. And we're gonna go in, we're gonna kill the president, we're gonna name our guy the new president. Come on.

[Kurt]

Well, what I think is it's like a Tragedy and Hope by Carol Quigley. Circles within circles. That's what an interagency would be. So of course you're gonna have a thick layer of stupid bureaucracy.

[Former CIA Officer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kurt]

But somebody knows what they're doing. It's not. No one's steering it. And the reason those underground bases exist was because of nuclear war. That's the Edward.

[Former CIA Officer]

Yes.

[Kurt]

That's why they built that shit.

[Former CIA Officer]

Exactly. It's not like we just thought of it now. The missing 20 million. Or 20 trillion, rather. I heard it was more like 4 trillion. But it's not that it's missing, it's that it's been spent or wasted, a lot of it in secret programs. So there's no paperwork to document it. People have retired or died and forgotten. And PricewaterhouseCoopers goes in to the Pentagon to try to find it and then three years later they throw up their hands and they say, we cannot figure out this accounting system. And they just quit.

[Kurt]

I thought it was Elon's fault for Doge.

[Former CIA Officer]

Not. No, they. They were able to find 250 billion, which everybody laughed at. Like, where's. Then where's the other 3.75 trillion that we can't find?

[Jimmy Dore]

What they were able to. I mean, we did a dimaidan coup, so they pulled. The CIA, pulled that out.

[Former CIA Officer]

You're exactly right. Yes.

[Jimmy Dore]

They got. Finally got it. Took them 25 years. But they got rid of Assad.

[Former CIA Officer]

That's right. That's another one.

[Jimmy Dore]

And they've had. They did it through their proxies. Right.

[Former CIA Officer]

Libya.

[Jimmy Dore]

They did Libya. Right. They did get rid of Maduro in a short time and now they're back trying to do it again.

[Former CIA Officer]

Yes.

[Jimmy Dore]

And I'm sure they're doing stuff like that all over the place and they're.

[Former CIA Officer]

Not going to advertise it to us.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. Like Nepal just happened. And I'm like, I wonder if that is organic or if they went in and gave people money. Because that's what they do. Right.

[Kurt]

I think it don't succeed unless you got the bad feelings there though. Right. It's not like they could just make it happen out of thin air. It could happen when you see the time is right for it to happen.

[Former CIA Officer]

That's right.

[Jimmy Dore]

Keaton Weiss from the Due Dissidency said Historic First Jewish Group complains about getting their money back because they did. So here's a story that might blow your mind, Kurt, because I know you didn't hear about this, but I did. Here it is. The first congressman ever to return the money he got from aipac.

[Kurt]

I hope he's going to be okay.

[Jimmy Dore]

Seth Moulton from Massachusetts says I'm returning AIPAC donations and refusing to accept any donations or support from them. The FCC filing I made yesterday reflects that we are returning donations. He forgot to add he's not suicidal.

[Kurt]

Yeah, that's an important.

[Jimmy Dore]

What my favorite is Keaton Weiss from the Due Dissidents. He said Historic First Jewish Group complains about getting their money back because they did. So here, here's, here's what Apex says Representative Seth Moulton is abandoning his friend. Kurt can't stop laughing.

[Kurt]

That's great. Come on. That's a great. Oh, my God.

[Jimmy Dore]

This is funny. So APAC put out a tweet says Seth Molton is abandoning his friends to grab a headline capitulating to the extremes rather than standing on conviction. No, the extremes is letting your government be run by a foreign country. That's the extreme.

[Kurt]

You killed Charlie Kirk, assholes, and you.

[Jimmy Dore]

Probably have a hand in killing Charlie Kirk.

[Kurt]

I think he did. Just my opinion.

[Jimmy Dore]

Representative Seth Moulton is abandoning his friends to grab.

[Kurt]

Like Mafia talk, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

To grab a headline capitulating to the extremes rather than standing on conviction. I think committing a genocide in full on social media, being live streamed on social media, I think that would probably be more of an extreme thing to do than to not take the money from the people who are doing the genociding. I don't know. That's just me.

[Kurt]

This is like a reverse. People being mad about that Saudi Riyadh festival.

[Jimmy Dore]

I like how he says that. They say he's not standing on his convictions. That's exactly what he's doing.

[Kurt]

This is really something.

[Jimmy Dore]

His statement, it's like, up is down, black is white, in is out. And now returning money to someone trying to bribe you is because you don't have convictions. That's according to apex. Do you see how they think? You see what you have to do to be a Zionist? APEC make mental case. You have to be a mental case.

[Kurt]

They call it a reverse burr.

[Jimmy Dore]

His. His statement comes after years of him repeatedly asking for our endorsement and is a clear message to APEC members in Massachusetts and millions of pro Israel Democrats nationwide that he rejects their support and will not stand with them. AIPAC and our 5 million members are U.S. citizens who support a strong U.S. israel alliance. Our mission is to promote policies that strengthen the critical partnership that advances America's interests and democratic value. America's interests. AIPAC doesn't give a shit about America's interests. This strategic relationship is bigger than any government at any particular time in either country. Oh, really?

[Kurt]

Or democracy. Or anything that you as a citizen would want for your country for yourself. It's more important. It's above you.

[Jimmy Dore]

So AIPAC is complaining in a historic first, a Jewish group complains about getting their money back.

[Kurt]

And the portions were too small.

[Jimmy Dore]

Ed. Oh, this food's horrible. In such small portions. So good for Seth Moulton. I don't know much about Seth Moulton, but he did take APAC money for a long Time. But good on him when he comes to the right side of history. At least. At least he could see which way the wind is blowing. At least he gets it.

[Kurt]

I mean, he's way ahead of a lot of people, huh?

[Jimmy Dore]

Way ahead. Way ahead. Not taking their money. Good for you.

[Kurt]

Like Mike Grinder Johnson. I'm gonna sacrifice a red heifer, y'.

[Former CIA Officer]

All.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's a great story. Good for Seth Moulton. I can't wait to see what APAC tries to do to him in his next primary. Because you know they're gonna primary him. Can't wait to see. I can't wait to report on that. Seems exciting. Okay. F Apac. F Zionism. F it all, I'm all for it. F the hate speech laws protecting these genociding maniacs. F everything. How about that? Hey, become a premium member. Go to jimmy dorecomedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today I are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be and I'll keep being me. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Do not freak out.

[CIA Analyst]

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[Former CIA Officer]

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[Kurt]

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[Jimmy Dore]

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[Kurt]

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[Kurt]

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[Former CIA Officer]

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