Megyn Kelly CATCHES Ben Shapiro Lying About Candace Owens!

Summary

The Jimmy Dore Show – Episode Summary

Episode Title: Megyn Kelly CATCHES Ben Shapiro Lying About Candace Owens!
Date: November 17, 2025
Host: Jimmy Dore
Notable Guests/Voices: Chris Keane, Candace Owens (clip), Cash Patel (comedy bit)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on Megyn Kelly publicly correcting Ben Shapiro for misrepresenting Candace Owens’ statements regarding Turning Point USA and the alleged “assassination” of Charlie Kirk. The show then pivots to broader discussions about Zionism, media manipulation, political identity, and performative outrage in pop culture, before closing with satirical sketches lampooning media and government figures.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ben Shapiro Caught Lying About Candace Owens ([00:46]–[03:24])

• Background: Ben Shapiro appeared on Megyn Kelly’s show and stated that Candace Owens accused Erica Kirk (Charlie Kirk’s wife) and others at Turning Point USA (TPUSA) of orchestrating Charlie's murder.
• Fact-Check: Megyn Kelly pushes back, stating she's seen no evidence Candace made such a claim and, in fact, Candace has publicly defended Erica Kirk.
  • “Candace has not made that claim. And in fact, I’ve now seen several clips of Candace specifically defending Erica Kirk and saying she would never make a claim like that about Erica.” — Megyn Kelly ([02:37])
• Jimmy’s Take: Jimmy Dore highlights the importance of Kelly’s correction, labeling Shapiro’s assertion a “lie” or, as he snarks, a “classic Zionist over-exaggeration.”
  • “The downfall of Zionism is over-exaggeration. Everything’s anti-Semitic, everything’s a blood libel.” — Jimmy Dore ([03:24])
• Candace Reacts: Owens thanks Kelly for the clarification, decrying Shapiro’s “brazen” dishonesty and attempts at “moral blackmail.”
  • “Thank you, Megyn Kelly, for clarifying that Ben Shapiro quite literally lied to your face and to your audience about my words.” — Candace Owens ([03:24])

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2. Media Gatekeeping, Candace’s Investigations, and Establishment Gaslighting ([03:24]–[12:02])

• Jimmy’s Skepticism: Questions why Megyn Kelly claims not to follow Candace’s reporting on the Kirk affair, despite being a major news personality and the story’s prominence.
  • “I just have a hard time swallowing the idea that Megyn Kelly isn’t interested in the facts that Candace Owen is uncovering about the Charlie Kirk murder investigation.” — Jimmy Dore ([03:24])
• Critique of Establishment Narrative: Dore ridicules the official account of Kirk’s death and alleges a coordinated effort to discredit independent investigations.
• Identity and Media: Dore implies that establishment figures use convenient ignorance as a refuge from having to comment or align on contentious issues.

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3. “Mockingbird Pastors” and Allegations of Paid Smears ([12:02]–[23:07])

• Owens Reveals Insider Info: Candace claims to know pastors were paid by a billionaire to coordinate anti-Candace/Tucker messaging.
  • “There was a billionaire that went out and offered what they said to me was an obscene amount of money for people to begin influencing by creating anti-Candace and Tucker videos.” — Candace Owens ([12:02])
• Example of Collusion: Candace details how pastors returning from sponsored trips to Israel began pushing pro-Israel, anti-Owens/Carlson sermons.
• Evidence Shown: Candace reads an email offering $2,500 in Bitcoin for sermons denouncing Candace and Tucker as antisemitic, framing it as a “no strings attached” donation, while Dore and panel mock the transparent incentive.
  • “We’d like to offer a small gesture of support—A donation of $2,500 in Bitcoin to your congregation. Untraceable, no strings attached.“ — Email read by Candace Owens ([17:50])
• Analysis: Dore says this represents “subversion” of American churches by Zionist interests, mocking the altruism of such alliances as self-serving propaganda.

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4. Pop Culture Cancel Culture: Sydney Sweeney Interview ([23:07]–[39:56])

• Overview: Jimmy and Chris react to an interview with actress Sydney Sweeney, who faced backlash over a “genetic superiority” jeans ad.
• Chris Keane’s Sarcasm: Skewers the media’s obsession with forcing celebrities to make political statements.
  • “I don’t know when we started politicizing everything. This is crazy. Christie is a movie about a boxer. It’s got nothing to do with politics.” — Chris Keane ([27:42])
• Jimmy’s Critique: Ridicules public demands for ideological purity and the notion of “canceling” someone simply for personal beliefs or apolitical stances.
  • “Jealousy is now a liberal value. That’s what this is.” — Jimmy Dore ([30:27])
• Zendaya Angle: Discussion shifts to reports that Zendaya refuses to do press with Sweeney due to Sweeney’s rumored political beliefs, using this as evidence of growing social intolerance.
  • “So Zendaya is in a cult and she doesn’t know it.” — Jimmy Dore ([36:38])

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5. White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre on Gaza ([40:09]–[53:16])

• Pressured on Gaza: Journalist Eamonn presses former White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre about defending U.S. policy in Gaza and whether she regrets her statements.
  • “Do you regret any of the positions that you advocated for on behalf of the administration?” — Eamonn ([41:09])
• Identity Shield: Jean-Pierre avoids a direct answer, repeatedly referencing her pride in being the first “black, queer” press secretary rather than addressing the substance of the critique.
  • “I woke up every day very proud to be the White House press Secretary… as a black woman who’s queer.” — Karine Jean-Pierre ([43:33])
• Dore’s Analysis: Criticizes the use of identity to deflect moral scrutiny over policy.
  • “She’s using that to… shield her… for committing a genocide. And look, I’m a black woman who’s queer. Come on, you can’t come at me.” — Jimmy Dore ([44:12])
• Decency in Office: Both hosts mock the idea of “decency” among recent U.S. leaders, pointing to Obama’s kill list and Bush’s torture program as counterexamples.

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6. Satirical Segment: Cash Patel Call-in ([53:16]–[59:29])

• Satire: Comedian Mike McRae calls in as “Cash Patel,” current FBI director in this comic universe, lampooning intelligence community corruption, substance abuse, and government/media revolving doors.
• Key Jokes: Touch on elite impunity, rumors about honeypot operations, and the transactional nature of power under Trump.
  • Notable for comedic relief amidst the heavier themes.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Shapiro’s Lie:
  • “It turns out that Ben Shapiro is lying, or as some people would say, over-exaggerating.” — Jimmy Dore ([03:24])
• Megyn Kelly as Fact-Checker:
  • “Candace has not made that claim… she’s been specifically defending Erica Kirk.” — Megyn Kelly ([02:37])
• On Insular Media Culture:
  • “Where are you getting your information if not from Candace Owens show?” — Jimmy Dore ([03:24])
• Owens on Paid Pastors:
  • “There was a billionaire… offered an obscene amount of money for people to… create anti-Candace and Tucker videos.” ([12:02])
• Chris Keane on Political Policing:
  • “Your thoughts are being policed by people… I don’t understand.” ([27:23])
• Jimmy on Identity Politics:
  • “She’s using the identity card to make genocide apologism permissible.” ([49:06])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Ben Shapiro’s Lie / Megyn Kelly’s Correction: [00:46]–[03:24]
• Candace’s Statement & Jimmy’s Critique: [03:24]–[12:02]
• Owens on ‘Mockingbird Pastors’ and Paid Smears: [12:02]–[17:50]
• Pastors’ Collusion & Email Evidence: [17:50]–[23:07]
• Sydney Sweeney Interview Deconstruction: [23:07]–[39:56]
• Zendaya/Sweeney Feud, Cancel Culture Commentary: [33:26]–[39:56]
• Karine Jean-Pierre Pressed on Gaza: [40:09]–[53:16]
• Satirical ‘Cash Patel’ Call-in Segment: [53:16]–[59:29]

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Tone & Language

• Tone: Unapologetically combative, deeply sarcastic, and irreverently humorous.
• Language: Blunt, critical, often profane (especially in satirical bits).
• Overall Vibe: The hosts mix skepticism with punchlines, challenging establishment narratives in politics and culture.

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Conclusion

This episode uses the Shapiro/Kelly/Owens controversy as a launching pad to explore deeper issues of media misrepresentation, establishment gaslighting, and the use (and abuse) of identity in political coverups. Jimmy Dore and Chris Keane critique groupthink in liberal circles, mock cancel culture excesses in entertainment, and lampoon government/media collusion—all with Dore’s trademark irreverence and willingness to cross taboos.

For listeners curious about what happened between Shapiro, Kelly, and Owens—or seeking a broader, scathing critique of political and media hypocrisy—this episode delivers both sharp analysis and entertainment.

Transcript

[Jimmy Dore]

Come see me in Sydney, Australia. Melbourne, Brisbane. I'll be in Burbank, California, the day after Thanksgiving. It's a Friday. Flappers Comedy Club. It's always a great time. We're gonna have special guests on that show. That's November 28th. We'll be in Pottstown, Pennsylvania, December 9th. And Waikiki. That's right. At the Blue Note on Waikiki in Hawaii. That's January 11th. It's a Sunday. See you then.

[Chris Keane]

Establishment media sucks.

[Jimmy Dore]

August lighting. So good luck.

[Chris Keane]

Bullshit.

[Cash Patel]

We can't afford.

[Chris Keane]

Watch and see as his jack golf the medium speeds and jumps the medium.

[Jimmy Dore]

And hits him head on.

[Chris Keane]

It's the chimney door show.

[Jimmy Dore]

So guess what? Ben Shapiro got caught lying by. Guess who. Megyn Kelly. Megyn Kelly catches him lying because I don't know if you remember, we showed this to you, that he claimed that Candace Owens was accusing Erica Kirk and being in on the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which she never did. And I know that because I watch her show and I'm. I'd be surprised if Megan doesn't watch her show. But she. Well, I mean, let me play this for you.

[Unknown Commentator 1]

What Candace Owens is doing right now is evil. It is evil what she is doing right now. Okay, and I say that again, but what.

[Jimmy Dore]

What?

[Unknown Commentator 2]

Because, like, I didn't know pine on whether it's evil or not. But my position is it's really none of my business.

[Jimmy Dore]

And why is it.

[Unknown Commentator 1]

But I have a question. Why is it none of your business? I mean, you. You comment on these things for a living.

[Unknown Commentator 2]

I'm not mother of the Internet.

[Unknown Commentator 1]

No, but. But if this were on the left and somebody were accusing Charlie Kirk of his wife having murdered him, I assume.

[Jimmy Dore]

That you would be talking about it.

[Unknown Commentator 2]

Is that what Candace is accusing Erica of? Yes, of murdering her own husband.

[Unknown Commentator 1]

She's accusing TPUSA insiders and other members of the right wing, including Seth Dillon, of being involved in the murder of Charlie Kirk.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Candace Owens]

Okay.

[Unknown Commentator 2]

Like I said, I don't take in that content, which is an honest statement. I don't have time to watch.

[Unknown Commentator 1]

I believe you.

[Jimmy Dore]

I believe you.

[Unknown Commentator 1]

But the point that I'm making is that friendship should not in our business. I think it's important. Listen, friendships do not trump.

[Unknown Commentator 2]

We don't even know each other.

[Unknown Commentator 1]

I understand. But even with Tucker, friendship should not trump our manifest requirement to speak out when people do and say things that are both detrimental to conservatism and morally wrong.

[Unknown Commentator 2]

Okay, so I don't.

[Candace Owens]

Totally.

[Jimmy Dore]

So it turns out he was making all that up. He was making all that up. This is pretty amazing. When Ben Shapiro appeared last week on Megyn Kelly's live events, he falsely claimed Candace Owens accused Erica Kirk of participating in a murder. And here's what she has to say.

[Unknown Commentator 2]

He said that Candace has been claiming Erica Kirk was behind the murder of Charlie, which I had not heard. And I was taken aback because that seems like something I would have heard. It's so crazy. And I have since learned it is not true. Candace has not made that claim. And in fact, I've now seen several clips of Candace specifically defending Erica Kirk and saying she would never make a claim like that about Erica and that she, you know, you know, she is open minded to other people at Turning Point.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

That's obvious.

[Unknown Commentator 2]

She's been making that point. I had heard that point, but that, but she has, but she's specifically been defending Erica Kirk and she's been saying she does not think that of Erica. And in fact, if you read her comments, she's under pressure to make comments about Erica. And so far, what I've seen, she hasn't. So thank you for that question.

[Jimmy Dore]

So it turns out that Ben Shapiro is lying, or as some people would say, over exaggerating. And the downfall of Zionism is over exaggeration. Everything's anti Semitic. Everything's a blood libel. That's the downfall of them. So actually, forget I mentioned anything. Don't change the thing. You guys just keep, do. Just keep going. You're doing great. Keep over exaggerating and making false. So Candace Owens actually weighed in on this. Candace Owens says thank you, Megyn Kelly, for clarifying that Ben Shapiro quite literally lied to your face and to your audience about my words. Rarely in politics do you see someone lie so brazenly in an effort to morally blackmail someone into their position. Trying to equate questioning Turning Point USA employees about their verifiable lies. They've been lying left and right. The turning point USA's employees, they've been lying and telling gaslighting lies since the beginning of this investigation. Trying to equate questioning Turning Point USA employees about their verifiable lies to accusing Erica Kirk of murdering her own husband is a vile and obvious attempt to shut down further investigation and it will not work. So good on Megan Kelly for addressing that. I don't know when I'm going to start believing the fact that she doesn't watch Candace's work or on the, on the Charlie Kirk investigation. I, I just have a hard time believing that a woman who prides herself on being A newswoman. And the number one story in her orbit right now is the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And she's not interested in what the number one show in the world and best friend of Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, has to say about it. She really isn't watching that. I don't have time. You don't have time? She does an hour show a day, only a couple times a week. You don't have time to watch her investigation. I certainly have time. I have that kind of time. And I have two jobs. I have this job and I have, well, like you could say, I have three jobs. I have a radio show, I have this show. I have a tour. I have a stand up comedy touring life. I have a lot. I'm very busy. I have time to watch it. Why would you not? So I'm just, I'm still having a hard time swallowing the idea that Megyn Kelly isn't interested in the facts that Candace Owen is uncovering about the Charlie Kirk murder investigation. Assassination investigation. I just have a hard time believing that as a news person she wouldn't want to know what the number one show in the world is saying about the Charlie Kirk investigation. Where else? Where are you getting your information about the Charlie Kirk investigation, Megan? You're getting it from Cash Patel? Are you, are you getting more of it from Ben Shapiro? Where are you getting your information from if you're not getting it from Candace Owens show? Where are you getting it from? You going to get from the New York Times? Are you getting it from Cash Patel from, are you getting it from the employees of Turning Point usa? The people have been caught lying left and right over this. Where are you getting your information if not from Candace Owens show? And she has a bevy of information, has caught million lies and you don't think it's suspicious any of the stories. And Megyn Kelly pretends she doesn't find it suspicious. The story that Cash Patel and the establishment and Turning Points USA are forwarding. She doesn't see any inconsistencies in their stories. She doesn't see anything illogical about the story of this guy somehow got on the roof and nobody saw him. And then he, he somehow got up there with a rifle and then he put it together on top of the roof and still nobody saw him. And then he got the shot off and did it. And then the bullet didn't have an exit wound even though it would take his head off and could go through steel and concrete and trees, but it didn't go through him. So that's Also, and she's not suspicious that he was able to then disassemble the gun again and, and then put it somewhere down his pants and then jump off the top of his building, but nobody sees the gun ever. And then he puts the gun back together, even though he left the screwdriver up on top of the roof, and he hides it and it's just none of that. And then of course, the text messages that Kash Patel said, they discovered that. Which was completely fabricated, which everyone now knows was fabricated, which is why the establishment never mentions those again. So how about the fact that they paved over the crime scene immediately? And in fact, I have, in another segment I'm going to do today, we have text messages from the people running the construction crew that did that, that they know how to keep their mouth shut. What? So none of that stuff is a red flag to Megyn Kelly. She has no questions about the official story about the Charlie Kirk assassination. She has zero questions. I know she does. And she's just not going to go down that road. So I, and so whatever. I guess I should give her grace because she doesn't want to go through that firestorm. You see how they. Ben Shapiro tried to get her excommunicated from the conservative movement over that just now and he had of course, lie about it because Candace Owens is only asking legitimate questions that everybody should be asking. And he tried to blackmail Megyn Kelly over that and tried to get her to disavow Candace Owens and take a stand on something that he's lying about. So I just, I just, I just cannot out. It's going to take a long time for me to believe that Megyn Kelly doesn't have the time to look into what Candace Owens is saying, being that Candace Owens, she's not some fringe show. She's the number one show. She was one of Charlie Kirk's best friends. And so I just have find it. I still find it very hard to believe that she. By the way, how did you find out that she. Did you actually go back and watch her video to find out she didn't say that stuff? How did you find out she didn't say that about Erica Kirk? How did you find that out? Did you actually watch her show? How do you. How did you find that out? So this, this again, this refuge did this, this assertion that you don't watch Candace Owens show. So that gives you a convenient place to say, I don't know what she's saying, so I can't talk about it. Even though it's the only show of any consequence that's actually looking into it and asking legitimate questions. Why aren't you asking those legitimate questions? Why aren't you asking questions of the stupid story that we're being told to swallow? Why aren't you asking those questions? I don't understand. Why are you letting Candace Owens do it? And I guess you don't even watch someone else. So not only does she not ask those questions, she she's not even watching someone who is. Someone who's got a more successful platform and is the number one show in the world. Isn't that interesting? I think it is. But anyway, I still say tip of the hat. Good on Megyn Kelly for letting everybody know that Ben Shapiro, like most Zionists are just bald faced liars. Because that's how you get to be a good Zionist. You have to lie constantly. It's the whole Israeli project is based on lies. Look into the Nakba, look into the Balfour Declaration. Look into all the false flags and the terrorism that founded Israel. Look into that. Look into most of their prime ministers changing their name to sound more Middle Eastern. All that stuff. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy dork.com clicking on join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member and if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. Candace Owens has found out that the pastors smearing her and Tucker Carlson are on the take here. Let's hear what she has to say.

[Candace Owens]

I know for a fact because I know someone who took the money and they wouldn't tell me what billionaire it was. But I can tell you around May of this year, whenever I termed it, Operation Mocking Pastor was happening where every pastor it seemed jumped on stage one Sunday and said follow Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson. A very weird sermon to preach on the same day. It was right after Ted and Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson had debated. There was a billionaire that went out and offered what they said to me was an obscene amount of money for people to begin influencing by creating anti Candace and Tucker billion Tucker videos. So that's how it works. I mean that is just.

[Jimmy Dore]

So she's got some inside info on what she calls Mockingbird pastors. So they're in some kind of collusion because you can't say conspiracy because that sounds crazy. You have to say collusion like the Russiagate people. So they were colluding to smear, slander and try to discredit Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens all on the same Sunday. Isn't that weird? It is weird. Let's hear now. Here, she's got more. She's going to show you what they've been saying.

[Chris Keane]

Some of us spent the same amount of time we did on Fox News as we do the Bible. There would be a revival in America today.

[Jimmy Dore]

Some of you listen to Tucker, Carson.

[Chris Keane]

And Cameron and these guys are anti Semitic.

[Jimmy Dore]

I don't care what anyone says, I'm going to say it.

[Chris Keane]

They're anti Semitic and their rhetoric is dangerous.

[Candace Owens]

So we decided to prod further because now I'm like, okay, well, the one thing I can tell you about Candace Owens, she's not an anti Semite, but she does love herself an investigation. Amen. Amen. Okay, so we decided to prod a little bit further, reach out to some of these congregants that were sending us clips. And so specifically about that guy, I said, like, is this a normal thing that. Does he normally speak about Israel, Bibi Netanyahu? And they said, no, actually, he had just come back from a trip to Israel. We didn't know he was going to Israel. He came back from a trip to Israel and suddenly he, he was telling us that we needed to donate to Israel.

[Jimmy Dore]

Lol.

[Candace Owens]

If you have a job, you donate to Israel, my friends. Trillions of tax dollars, weaponry, you're good. Okay, but he said that they need to donate to Israel. And suddenly they're getting sermons about Bibi Netanyahu. And. And I'm like, what? I couldn't imagine my priest never, not once. I've been Catholic for a year and a half. Never once has brought up a political person ever in the homily. But okay, I'm like, now I'm getting what they're talking about because I know that these churches, these mega churches, otherwise they can be sponsored on trips to, you know, these, like, they're well taken care of. They go over on these overseas trips by these organizations that purport to be alliances. And they said, yes, actually, this was one of these trips. It was sponsored by an organization called Eagle Wings, which is a quote unquote alliance between Christians and Jews. Now here's what I'm saying, just taking a Look at this website that sponsored this particular pastor. If it's an alliance between Christian and Jews, should there be a crucifix? Like, do you see, do you see Christ kind of alliance is this? I, I see. I just see the Star of David. I see the state of Israel right just right off the bat. What kind of alliance is this? Does this mean, like, we get to work for the state of Israel? Like, just looking at the vibes. Anyways, scroll down. You can pull that back up. I want to just see. Because you, you see. What are these upcoming events? Okay, here's some upcoming event events. If you'd like to attend I Stand with Israel and get a Frontline update, you can attend Torah Tuesdays. Okay, that sounds fun. What are we handing out on Torah Tuesdays? Like Taco Tuesdays, Tour Tuesdays, and we've got Shabbat. These are the upcoming events. I am just. Oh, I am amazed by this. Okay. I'm not really sure what Christians get out of this. Anyways, like I said.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there she is letting you know that these mega, these pastors at these mega churches are on the take and that they're subverting themselves to an Israel first position. And she's exactly right. This is supposed to be a, a Jewish and Christian alliance. Where's the Christianity? It's nowhere to be. This is all about propping up Israel. It's all about propping up Israel. And she's, she's right about that. And she's like, so she's showing you that these pastors are already on the take. They're already taking money from Israel, already taking money from the Zionists. They're already doing that to brainwash their, their congregations to be pro Israel. They're already doing that. And you know, I know God commands his spokespeople to be honest, forthright, and inherent to only doing the right thing unless the money is just simply too good to turn down. And, you know, then you got to slander Tucker Carlson, you got to slander Candace Owens, and you got to do it in collusion with a bunch of other pastors on the same day. Isn't that interesting? I wonder where that, I wonder where that directive came from to do that. I don't know. Did it come from a certain Middle Eastern country? Did it, did it come from Zionists? Where did that order come from? Because that's what happened. And so she found an email. This was an email to. Not that guy's church, another one talking about how they get people, pastors to do this kind of stuff to do the bidding of Israel and brainwash their congregation and slander people like Tucker and Candace. Here, let's listen.

[Candace Owens]

And understanding and cooperation. And here is the email, as you can see, that went out on June 20th. It says, We. We've obviously covered anything that was identifying here. We verified this, we had screen recordings, everything. It says, I hope this message finds you well. At the center for Jewish Christian Understanding and Cooperation, we've always believed that the strength of our communities lies in how we show up for one another, especially in difficult times. That's why I'm reaching out. Recently, we've been troubled by certain statements made by public voices like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, individuals with large platforms whose words carry weight. While we understand and respect differing political views, the language they've used lately has crossed a line. It's not just provocative and controversial. In some cases, it's veered into rhetoric that echoes classic anti Semitic tropes, questioning Jewish loyalty, downplaying the Holocaust, and framing Jewish communities as global manipulators. Now, it's going to get a little ironic here because if you're going to talk about a little bit of manipulation, it's going to come at the end of this email. Here's the second page of the email. It may. May not always be obvious at first glance, but to those of us who've seen where this kind of speech leads, it's deeply unsettling. We're not asking anyone to take sides politically. This is about something deeper, about spiritual accountability and the moral influence church leaders like yourself have in shaping how people treat one another. With that in mind, we'd be grateful if you'd consider speaking briefly on this in one of your upcoming services. Even a few words. Encouraging awareness, compassion and caution when engaging with media voices that spread division under the COVID of opinion. And if you're open to it and willing to share a recording or a summary of your message, we'd like to offer a small gesture of support. A donation of $2,500 in Bitcoin to your congregation. Untraceable, no strings attached. No, we. I mean, it sounded to me like there was very much string attached here. Just an expression of our thanks and solidarity. Please feel free to reply directly if you'd like to connect further or if we can provide any background resources for your message. And I want to be clear, guys, there's no strings attached. Do it and we'll give you $2500 in Bitcoin, which is not really traceable whatsoever, but it's to show our alliance and we're not telling you what to say. We're just telling you that if you weren't going to say something, let it be that Candace Owens are Carlson or anti Semitic. And we're not giving you any proof of that other than this. No string attached. Payment via Bitcoin, which is kind of untraceable, huh?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. So that's the kind of stuff that's. Of course, you know, we've heard these. I mean, didn't Jesus go into the temple and overturn the tables of the money changers inside the temple? That's what, that's what they're supposed to be doing. So, of course, churches are easily corrupted and so are these pastors. And she's. She, she's been on it. Her stories about Mockingbird pastors repeating lines that they've been told to repeat for money. Boy, she really is good at this. I gotta tell you. She's really good at this. So good on Candace Owens, she discovers that the pastors that are slandering and trying to discredit her and Tucker Carlson are on the take. Isn't that weird or. No. Or is it expected? Because. Yeah, I would say it's expected. And people who are slandering Tucker or Candace Owens over their. Their criticisms of Israel are either being paid to do so or are just lying Zionists. Right. Because in order to be a good Zionist, it means to be a good liar. You can't tell the truth about the Nakba. You can't tell the truth about the founding of Israel. You can't tell the truth about why all the Israeli prime ministers changed their name to sound more Middle Eastern. You can't tell the truth about the genocide they're committing. You can't tell the truth about the war crimes they're committing. You can't tell the truth about every war that we fought in the Middle east has been at the behest of Benjamin Netanyahu and the Zionist Project. You can't tell the truth about what the Greater Israel Project is so good on Candace Owens, she keeps it going. She finds out stuff nobody else is finding out. Why isn't that front page news? That there's a string of pastors colluding together to slander the number one newsman in America and the number one podcast host, Candace Owens. That it? You think that'd be front page story? You think that'd be top of the news? It's not. You got to go to Candace Owens or you got to come here. That's about the only two places really talking about this stuff. Isn't that interesting?

[Chris Keane]

Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Jimmy Dore Show. I am your guest host, Chris Keane. Actress Sydney Sweeney is back in the news. You might remember her from the American Eagle ad from a few months ago that got a lot of press. It was a very racist ad, very offensive. We're gonna play the ad now. Just a disclaimer. If you're sensitive to racism, you should probably turn this off. This is very disturbing. And here we go.

[Sydney Sweeney]

Genes are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality, and even eye color. My genes are blue.

[Jimmy Dore]

Sydney Sweeney has great genesis.

[Chris Keane]

Well, I'm hard. I don't know about you guys, but, yeah, that was disgustingly racist. I'm very offended. I don't know about you. Um, so Sidney is back in the news because she did an interview with GQ about this. Sydney Sweeney's response to genetic superiority questions sparks liberal fury. I. I resent the word liberal there. I've been a liberal my whole life. I'm not offended by this. Uh, I don't know who is, so that I don't get. But here we have this ridiculous interview that she did with gq.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

I think a lot of people feel.

[Sydney Sweeney]

Like it's better for art if artists.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

Can keep themselves a little bit separate from politics.

[Chris Keane]

It's better for art if artists can keep themselves separate from politics. Now, I'm gonna quiz you about your political opinions for 20 minutes. That's what's about to happen.

[Unknown Commentator 2]

But I just want to say art is political.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's what art is.

[Unknown Commentator 2]

Art is a response to your culture, to what's happening in society. So it's intrinsic to it.

[Chris Keane]

I think that's true. It's true. Someone told me that even if you say nothing about politics, that's a political statement because you're choosing to ignore things that are going on.

[Sydney Sweeney]

I've never talked about my personal life. I don't really let other people define who I am.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

I'm happy to hear that. I have a lot of secondhand concern for you lately.

[Chris Keane]

Why are you concerned? Concerned for her lately because she might think something you don't like. You're concerned. Why is that bad? If someone has a different opinion?

[Unknown Commentator 3]

We're sort of talking around this American Eagle ad right now, and maybe we should just talk about it.

[Chris Keane]

No, we aren't talking around. You are. You're obsessed with talking about it.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

The president tweeted about the jeans ad. Or truth. Social media.

[Chris Keane]

The president. Of course. We can't interview an actress about her movie. Without talking about the President anymore. Somehow, I don't know when this started, that we need every actor's opinion on.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

Politics, but that just seems to me like a very crazy moment for anyone. And I wondered what that was like. It was surreal and it would be totally human. I would probably feel like, thankful that somebody had my back in public, you know, and conveniently, some very powerful people had my back in public.

[Chris Keane]

This is such a, like, gotcha question. She's like, leading her into. I'm trying to get you to say something positive about Trump so I can hate you and go viral. It's so ridiculous.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

I wondered if you felt that way.

[Sydney Sweeney]

It's not that that feeling didn't. I didn't have that feeling, but I wasn't thinking of it like that, like, of any of it. I kind of just put my phone away. I was filming every day. I'm filming Euphoria. So I'm working like 16 hour days and I don't really bring my phone on set. So I work and then I go home and I go to sleep.

[Chris Keane]

That is not the answer she was hoping for. She was hoping for her to jump up and yell make America great again. I don't know what she was hoping for.

[Sydney Sweeney]

I don't really see a lot of it.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

You've made a really good case for keeping your thoughts and your life separate from that work. But the risk is that, you know, there's a chance that somebody will get some idea about what you think about certain issues.

[Chris Keane]

That's a risk that someone might get an idea of what I think. My. My thoughts are being policed by people. I don't under. How is that a risk? You have to know what I think about every topic or else, like, what is that?

[Unknown Commentator 3]

And feel like I don't want to see Christie because of that. Like, do you agree if you don't.

[Chris Keane]

Go see a movie because you don't agree with the actors in it, you wouldn't see any movie. There's no movie where you agree completely with every actor in the movie. I mean, I don't know when we started politicizing everything. We didn't this. It's crazy. Christie is a movie about a boxer. It's got nothing to do with politics. You would see no movie if you wanted every actor to think exactly like you do that.

[Sydney Sweeney]

No, no. If somebody, if somebody is closed off because of something they read online to a powerful story like Christy, then I hope that. I hope something else can open their eyes to being open to art and being open to learning And I'm not gonna be affected by that.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

Yeah.

[Chris Keane]

This kind of stuff has ruined movies, I think, in recent years. Everything is about politics now. They prioritize that over telling a story that people find relatable.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

They're really willing to talk about this whole discourse that doesn't have that much to do with you. And I'm grateful for that. Did you. Is there something that you want to say about the ad itself? The Sydney Sweeney has great jeans. Do you have.

[Sydney Sweeney]

Ad spoke for it.

[Chris Keane]

Do you want to apologize to me right now? That's what that was. And she started the interview by saying it's better if artists don't talk about politics. Do you have anything you want to say to me right now about what you did? I don't know.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

You think the ads fit for Excel? Okay. And the criticism of the content, which was basically that maybe specifically in this political climate, like white people shouldn't joke about genetic superiority. Like, that was kind of like the.

[Chris Keane]

Criticism in this political climate. White people shouldn't joke about genetic superiority.

[Jimmy Dore]

What?

[Chris Keane]

Anyone can joke about anything. This statement that an entire group of people shouldn't joke about something.

[Jimmy Dore]

Are you joking right now? Because I don't think you should joke about it. I hope you're not joking right now.

[Chris Keane]

Jokes. This is like a theme of today. People getting mad about jokes. This is an ad with a pun in it. And you shouldn't joke about that. You can joke about anything. It might be a bad joke, it might be a good joke. A lot of times any comedian knows this. You have to write bad jokes to get to good jokes. It's a writing process.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Sydney Sweeney. It is.

[Chris Keane]

Yes. Yeah. This is an interview with Sydney Sweeney. Jimmy just walked in on this, which is. Which is a perfect timing for you, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

This is basically a modern remake of the Jayne Mansfield Sophia Loren photo where she's looking at her breasts because she's jealous. Jealousy is now a liberal value. That's what this is.

[Chris Keane]

Perfect. All right, let's continue.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

Broadly speaking. And since you are talking about this, I just wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about that specifically.

[Sydney Sweeney]

I think that when I.

[Chris Keane]

What is that voice?

[Jimmy Dore]

These are grown women that talk like that.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

They talk like they're 14 year old girls and a sleepover. It's so specifically. I'm not supposed to joke about that?

[Chris Keane]

No. That's horrible.

[Jimmy Dore]

In this climate.

[Chris Keane]

No. What political climate is okay to joke? Right?

[Jimmy Dore]

Like, when was it okay?

[Chris Keane]

Yeah, it's bad.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, keep going.

[Sydney Sweeney]

I have an issue that I want to speak about. People will hear. I think that as time goes on, people will see that I'm way more aware of things than people think.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

Can you say a little bit more?

[Chris Keane]

Can you say a little bit more? I just need to hate you. Please tell me something that's gonna make me mad and that I can take and go viral with. Just.

[Sydney Sweeney]

I mean, if I say it, then I like to let the art speak for itself. I think that's where it's fun.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

Okay. But you know that you are, like, you are giving us permission to keep projecting a little bit.

[Jimmy Dore]

Like we're gonna stop projecting.

[Chris Keane]

What do you care? Who cares? What's. Why do you care so much about what an actress thinks? You think what you think, they think what they think.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

Keep taking what you do and, like, putting it up on our board. What does Sydney think?

[Chris Keane]

Who is doing that? Who?

[Jimmy Dore]

Her.

[Chris Keane]

She's doing that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Her and her friends.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah. I don't. This is not a healthy mentality. When I was a kid, I just watched movies.

[Jimmy Dore]

Look at all the people it takes to make this stupid interview. That's what I can never get over. All the people it takes.

[Chris Keane]

I think there's more.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

Okay.

[Chris Keane]

Oh, okay. Oh. Chateau Marmot.

[Jimmy Dore]

Special thanks to Chateau Marmont. That's where they did this?

[Chris Keane]

I guess so.

[Jimmy Dore]

I've never been to the Chateau Marmont. I'm so jealous.

[Chris Keane]

I haven't either.

[Jimmy Dore]

Even in this climate, I haven't been.

[Chris Keane]

Is that where John Belushi.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's where John Belushi ended up. Loding.

[Chris Keane]

Yes. Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Very famous place for the stars. It's right on Sunset.

[Chris Keane]

Yes.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right, Right. So it's just like a block away from the Laugh Factory. Yeah, I've been. I go by it all the time. I've never been in it. I've never been invited. I guess I'm not a big shot Hollywood person. I always thought I would be.

[Chris Keane]

Probably because you tell jokes, Jimmy. That's bad.

[Jimmy Dore]

In this climate.

[Chris Keane]

In this climate, it's bad to do that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow.

[Chris Keane]

So Sweeney was interviewed by Kathryn Stoffel for gq. And in addition to the interview appearing in print, a video of it was shared to YouTube with clips circulating online. Her response to Stoffel has quickly sparked backlash online as people argue that the interview was an opportunity to address racial concerns and condemn racism. Oh, my God. It's an interview. Of course.

[Jimmy Dore]

This is Newsweek. Yeah, of course.

[Chris Keane]

It's an interview about her new movie. It's got nothing to do with this. And the ad also has nothing to do with this. Unless you make it be about that. Yourself. Social media user Moonroses wrote on X in a Post Viewed over 50,000 times, Sydney Sweeney getting the opportunity to denounce white supremacy and not taking it. Plus saying, when I have an issue I want to speak about, people will hear about it. Yeah. F her one post from the account kantineast on x viewed 2.9 million times, read in part. Now I understand why people hate her.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, I don't think you do understand. Yeah, I don't think you understand why people hate her at all. I think that. Nope. Sorry.

[Chris Keane]

Ridiculous. Her co star in Euphoria, Zendaya has reportedly joined other stars in her in criticism. The Daily Mail reported Tuesday that the Oakland reared Zendaya is refusing to do press with Sweeney for the spring 2026 release of season three of Euphoria, the HBO teen drama in which they co star. So again, we're back to this ideological purity test where if you don't agree with me, you're bad, you're evil, and I can't even do a press tour with you, even though we work on the same show. While the two women grew up together on the set of Euphoria, they grew up together. And I can relate to this. Cause I've lost a lot of friends that I grew up with over this kind of garbage where having different opinions.

[Jimmy Dore]

Me too.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah. They were once not the people I.

[Jimmy Dore]

Grew up with, just the people I've known in comedy.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

For 35 years.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay.

[Chris Keane]

Yep. They were once good friends. Zendaya is upset by Sweeney's reported political views, which include being a registered Republican.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh.

[Chris Keane]

Oh, how dare she.

[Jimmy Dore]

You mean like Clint Eastwood, right?

[Chris Keane]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

You mean like the Academy Award winner cleaning Clint Eastwood?

[Chris Keane]

Yes.

[Jimmy Dore]

You know who else? Cary Grant.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

I mean, I don't. What did. What.

[Chris Keane]

And you know who else? Half the. Half the country.

[Jimmy Dore]

And half the country.

[Chris Keane]

I mean.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so did Drew Carey. I mean, when did this. Oh, my God.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah, it's. And becoming the darling of Donald Trump's MAGA supporters.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's the darling of a lot more than that. Yeah, she's the darling of a lot of people. Wow.

[Chris Keane]

It's no wonder she's refusing to do it. A source told the Daily.

[Jimmy Dore]

A source.

[Chris Keane]

It's a difficult position for Zendaya to be in because if she even stands next to Sidney on the red carpet, it can be read as her excusing Sidney's views on Trump.

[Jimmy Dore]

You see how toxic they make. You gotta be. This is again, just like we talked about in the last story.

[Chris Keane]

Yes.

[Jimmy Dore]

The. You know, it's hardwired into human beings brains that you don't want to get kicked out of the group because if, in caveman times, if you got kicked out of the group, that meant you would die. And so that they're using this. They've been using this forever now to be afraid to have an opinion and be kicked out of the group. And that's what this is. You can't. So they make everything toxic and you can't ever have it. Oh my God. I don't want it. That's what cults do. This is cult.

[Chris Keane]

Yes.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Zendaya is in a cult and she doesn't know it.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah, it's the most intolerant ideology.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's the opposite of tolerance.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah. And these are people who fight fascism. They're always talking about fascism. Well, a core tenant of fascism is everyone thinking the same. I don't. So, yeah, even you can't even stand next to the person. Or else.

[Jimmy Dore]

Still saying that that jeans commercial is a racist ad. Yes, they're still saying.

[Chris Keane]

I have comic friends that called me a fascist this week because I said that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Because they don't know what fascist means, apparently.

[Chris Keane]

They said I was defending white nationalism because I thought the outrage over this was just ridiculous.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, you're not white, though. You're Armenian.

[Chris Keane]

Yes, I am Armenian.

[Jimmy Dore]

Lucky for you, you're not white. Right.

[Chris Keane]

Well, according to the state of California, in 2027, we're going to be classified as Middle Eastern and North African, so I thought.

[Unknown Commentator 2]

I thought Armenians were Caucasians.

[Jimmy Dore]

That was.

[Chris Keane]

We are, but not according to. Not according to California. I am an African American, God damn it. I can't. You see? All right, so even if you stand next to her, it can be read as excusing her views and her refusal to apologize for. For the racist ad.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow.

[Chris Keane]

How. How is the ad racist? I have no idea. This is. It's talking about genetics as in terms of beauty.

[Jimmy Dore]

In terms of beautiful. She is. Yes, she's a beautiful woman. There's lots of white people who aren't beautiful. She happens to be one of them. Because she has good genes.

[Chris Keane]

Yes. And any beautiful black woman could have been in this exact same ad.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Chris Keane]

Sweeney insisted that the message of the ad was not. Was. Was just about denim and self confidence, not about anything else. It shouldn't be surprising that Zendaya could have a problem with the ad because she's an idiot.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's not surprising because she's an idiot. Part of a mind. A woke mind virus. Yeah, she's in a cult. I mean, like, that she doesn't actually think for herself. Yeah, that's why Zendaya would have. I could see her not having a problem.

[Chris Keane]

Well, she also has mixed race heritage, Jimmy, and she has been outspoken in her opposition to Trump.

[Jimmy Dore]

Mixed. Mixed race heritage. Step, Steph, that now you don't have mixed race heritage, you just have race heritage. And you're 100% Mexican, right?

[Unknown Commentator 2]

Yes.

[Jimmy Dore]

What do you think about Sydney Sweeney's ad? I think it's great. I think it's funny. Like, I don't see it.

[Unknown Commentator 2]

I don't even have. I don't.

[Jimmy Dore]

Would you. Would you. Why would I get insulted? Would you stand next to her on a red carpet?

[Unknown Commentator 2]

I would stand next to her on a red carpet.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow.

[Unknown Commentator 2]

I would be that bold even if I did.

[Chris Keane]

You're clearly defending white nationalism right now.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, I've been. I've been. This is the.

[Unknown Commentator 2]

I've totally been indoctrin. Indoctrinated by the white people around me.

[Jimmy Dore]

This is the old in this room. Yep. I hope so. This is the old. Hate everybody who doesn't think like you and even if they're in your family and this is how they divide the country. And Zendaya is a weak minded knucklehead tool of the establishment and so the establishment hates it if the left and right can come together because when we do come together, we could overthrow them. But so the establishment keeps us fighting over gene ads and Zendaya falls for it because she's a dummy.

[Chris Keane]

Welcome to the Jimmy Dore show, everyone. I'm your guest host, Chris Keane. I'm here with. I decided to platform my guest today. We have friend of the show, Jimmy Dore, everyone.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, how are you? All right, let's get to it.

[Chris Keane]

All right, so here we go. All right. Trida Parsi tweets. This is one of the most disgusting things you'll see today, but also extremely revealing.

[Eamonn]

Ben, Karin, just because I want to get. We got a few more things I want to cover and obviously foreign policy was a big thing during that administration, as you can imagine. I just wanted to talk to you a little bit about foreign policy. You didn't mention Afghanistan. You haven't mentioned Gaza, and you certainly didn't mention Gaza much in your book. I wanted to get your thoughts on that. You stood at the White House podium speaking on behalf of the administration. You defended US policy in Gaza at a time where there were mass civilian casualties, journalists being killed, whole families being wiped out, hospitals being bombed, and the international community was calling it, what it was at the time, saying it was a violation, it was war crimes. And you defended the administration's policy. When you look back at that moment, do you regret any of the positions that you advocated for on behalf of the administration, the positions you take? Do you feel that you were complicit in advocating a narrative that turned out to be wrong?

[Candace Owens]

No.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

I appreciate the question because one thing that I really want to make clear is that I was speaking on behalf of the President. That is the job of, of the White House press Secretary. I'm not speaking for Karine Jean Pierre. I was speaking for Joe Biden. That's.

[Chris Keane]

She was just speaking on behalf of the President. That's all. You know, she, she wasn't committing a genocide. She was just, you know, defending the people that were lying for the people that were not that bad.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

She's a good, good lady White House press Secretary. That is their job.

[Eamonn]

Well, you said now you speak for yourself. So.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

Hold on, hold on, wait, let me finish.

[Eamonn]

No, no, no, I just want it because we're almost out of time. Just want to go ahead.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

I'm going to get to it. Obviously what's happening is heartbreaking.

[Candace Owens]

Heartbreaking.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

And to not say that and not to be clear about the devastation and the killings that we're seeing of families is just heartbreaking. And my I would say is that is not the way I believe. People wanted it to turn out, but I didn't make policy. The President is going to write his book, he will speak to his followers.

[Chris Keane]

So she's not going to condemn it. But it's heartbreaking. I feel sad. Don't get me wrong, I'm sad. But eh, it is what it is. You know, we did our best. It's heartbreaking.

[Jimmy Dore]

I had to be the mouthpiece for that mouth breaking for that heartbreaking bs. I had to be the mouthpiece for it. And I propped it up and I didn't criticize it and I defended it. But it is heartbreaking.

[Chris Keane]

We're all heartbroken.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

See, I'm gonna let his foreign policy team speak to that. But it is heartbreaking and I'm hoping that the ceasefire holds. We need to get to a peaceful situation in the Middle east, to its peace agreement. And I know that's going to take.

[Jimmy Dore]

A lot of hard work.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

But of course that's not what I want to see. Of course that's heartbreaking. I don't want to see. You should have a heartbreaking families, children, journalists being killed. Of course not.

[Chris Keane]

Of course I don't want to See, that. That's why I lied to cover it up and fed it to you for years.

[Jimmy Dore]

And I used my identity as a black lesbian woman to shield any accurate criticism of that heartbreaking policy. Because you know what is even more heartbreaking than a genocide in Gaza is if I lost my paycheck, that would actually be. That'd be heartbreaking and one wallet breaking.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

And, you know, I hope that we get to a place where we can get to a peace. Peace agreement in the Middle east. And I know that's going to be important. Incredibly tough to make it happen.

[Eamonn]

Now that you are speaking for yourself, Karine, do you have any regrets at all for anything that you said while you were speaking on behalf of this administration?

[Unknown Commentator 3]

I'm.

[Jimmy Dore]

Look.

[Eamonn]

It'S a simple yes or no.

[Jimmy Dore]

You don't even know.

[Candace Owens]

No, no, no.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

Because you're asking for a yes or no question. I want to put some context to it, too.

[Unknown Commentator 3]

I woke up every day.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

I woke up every day very proud to be the White House press Secretary. I woke up every day as a. As a.

[Jimmy Dore]

As a genocide defender.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

Who is queer.

[Chris Keane]

As a black woman who's queer.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there's. There you go. She's using that to. As a shield for her to be able to defend her a. An administration she's working for and a mouthpiece for committing a genocide. And look, I'm a black woman who's queer. Come on, you. You can't. You can't come at me. I'm black and I'm queer. Okay.

[Chris Keane]

Amazing.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

Who had never. No one had ever seen someone like me at that podium, standing behind that lectern. It was an honor and a privilege to have that job.

[Chris Keane]

The genocide is so much better when a black queer woman does it. You know, I have a joke about this in my standup act, which is, you know, the people of Gaza won't even feel those bombs when they're dropped by a strong black woman. It's. I mean, I don't understand this.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

And I did it to the best of my abilities, and I spoke for the President of the United States States, a person that I believe was a decent person. We did not get everything right.

[Chris Keane]

Decent people.

[Jimmy Dore]

What is this? That Joe Biden. What is this idea that Joe Biden was a decent person? When. When did that start? Oh, that started when he. They couldn't defend his policies, so now he's a decent person. Joe Biden is not a decent person. He's a war criminal. Half the prison population is there because of him. They locked him up for the Exact things that his kid did. And he wants, he wants grace and he wants sympathy for his kid when he's a drug addict. But if it's your kid they want, he wants them put in prison forever. So the expl. He. And he brags about it. He brags about writing the crime bill that expl exploded the prison population which filled it with black and brown people over, over police those neighborhoods, over prosecuted them. We have more people in prison than China in the United States. So anyway, there she is and she's using the identity politics to do this. And identity politics is just completely based on self righteous narcissism. And because issues don't matter unless it reminds them of themselves. Then, then, then they matter. And how, how can you go on camera and saying that you once. Let's watch the rest.

[Chris Keane]

Okay.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

No one is saying we got everything right. No one is saying we got everything.

[Jimmy Dore]

You, you really is the question on everyone mind is anyone saying you got everything right? Is. No one's. No one's there. No one's saying that. Go ahead. I don't know why she brought that up.

[Candace Owens]

Right.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

No one is saying that. But we did it to our best of our abilities and I worked very hard to do that job. And so I want to put it into context. And as you know at the podium, you don't do yes or no quiz answers.

[Candace Owens]

No.

[Eamonn]

We were hoping you were. So you would now that you are speaking for yourself and you're not at the podium.

[Karine Jean-Pierre]

Very proud. I don't very proud. I was very proud of everything that I did. So the, you know, I don't take anything back. I was really proud of it.

[Chris Keane]

So it's heartbreaking. But she's proud of it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Chris Keane]

And I hear that decent thing all the time. What happened to decency in the White House? When, when was there decency?

[Jimmy Dore]

When was there ever decency in the White House?

[Chris Keane]

Yes.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Barack Obama had a kill list.

[Chris Keane]

Exactly. People say that about George W. Bush.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. That he was decent. The guy ordered a torture program. Right. And led us into a war where we killed a million innocent civilians. What? Yeah.

[Chris Keane]

Ok. All right. Amon M. Asks former White House press secretary Jean Pierre if she regrets defending Biden's Gaza policy. Blind support and for Israel's genocide. She first tries to explain away by saying that she spoke on behalf of the President, not herself. When Eamonn points out that she now speaks for herself, Jean Pierre refuses to give a clear yes or no answer, but instead says she needs to add context. What is that context?

[Jimmy Dore]

First of All, I love the fact that the MSNBC guy even can't take her bullshit. Yeah, even MSNBC can't take Jean Pierce bullshit. He's like, yeah, but now you are talking for yourself. So yes or no, we were hoping you would actually give a yes or no answer to these questions now that you don't have to spin for a administration that's funding a genocide. We were just. We were hoping. Okay, what's the context?

[Chris Keane]

She plays the identity card saying she woke up every morning being proud of being the first black and queer spokesperson for the White House. And then she adds, I was very proud of everything I did. I don't take anything back. So she uses the identity card to make genocide apologism permissible. Just as those in Europe who divide the world between democracies and authoritarians and then argue that Israel's apartheid, genocide and war crimes are all permissible because Israel is a democracy. Laws, rules and ethical standards are not objective and do not apply equally to all. Rather, your identity and your political makeup determine whether laws and ethical standards apply to you. In Jean Pierre's world, her identity gives her license to support genocide without regret.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Chris Keane]

Here we have Ibrahim Zabad. She is very honest. She said it with a straight face. She is proud of serving as the spokesperson of genocide Joe. And she has no regrets in defending the livestream genocide and marketing it as self defense. Here's the exchange. Do you have any regrets about defending Biden's genocide? I was only ever speaking on behalf of the President. But you're speaking for yourself now. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But do you regret it? Oh, I'm black and queer, so it's okay. It's all right. And this is what the Democrats do.

[Jimmy Dore]

She's doing a memorial to herself.

[Chris Keane]

Here we go, folks. That's the story there.

[Jimmy Dore]

Don't worry. But. Don't worry. Go back. Don't worry. All those bombs, they were manufactured in America by union workers.

[Chris Keane]

There you go.

[Jimmy Dore]

Isn't that nice?

[Chris Keane]

The only thing we make anymore. Jean Pierre is making the media rounds as she promotes her new book. Make sure to get that everyone independent. A look inside. A broken White House outside the party lot. A broken White House. You were part of the broken White House. What do you. In which she.

[Jimmy Dore]

You were the mouthpiece for that broken White House. Yes.

[Chris Keane]

And you said you're proud of it.

[Jimmy Dore]

And you're proud of it every day.

[Chris Keane]

What is this book? She explains her decision to exit the Democratic Party. Why is she exiting if she was proud of what she did as the Washington Post book critic Becca Rothfeld noted in a scathing review. Jean Pierre did not cite the Biden administration's steadfast support for Israel's decimation of Gaza among the reasons she ditched her former party. That wasn't one of the. I'd love to know what the reasons were if that wasn't on the list. Jean Pierre's central complaint boils down to more or less a vague sense of personal grievance. The Democrats were mean to Biden, her boss. They were mean to her personally. John Pierre sums up her complaints when she writes that she's exacerbated with. With shady. With the shady way Democrats do business. I guess that doesn't include the genocide that they. Part of. That's not the shady way.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's them being mean to her behind closed doors.

[Chris Keane]

Yeah, that's what she's upset about. Part of that business under the Biden administration was providing material and diplomatic support to Israel as it waged all out war on the Gaz Strip following the deadly Hamas led attack of October 7th. As chief spokesperson for the Biden White House, Jean Pierre stood before the press and the global community and defended the administration's support for Israel's assault while criticizing international efforts to pursue accountability for Israeli leaders as well as efforts by U.S. lawmakers to halt the flow of weaponry used to massacre Palestinians indiscriminately.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's weird she left that part out.

[Chris Keane]

Yes.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Chris Keane]

We strongly oppose this resolution. Jean Pierre said last November when asked about a Bernie Sanders led push to block US bomb sales to Israel. We are very committed to Israel's security. That has been ironclad. So I guess the moral of the story is genocide's good as long as the good guys do it. As long as you're black and queer and you're on the right team.

[Jimmy Dore]

I like that. What she's saying is she had. She had a problem with the way they were committing genocide and not the fact that they were committing genocide. Wow, talk about a finicky eater. Am I right? Excuse me, waiter, could you cut off the stems of the baby spinach on my organic bullshit salad? I'm just looking forward to seeing her on the View. Yeah, I'm sure she's been. Oh, that's her big audition.

[Chris Keane]

Oh, God.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Well, her whole career was an audition to be on the View. Her whole career was an audition to go out and sell books and give public speech. That's what that's all about. I mean, the guy who hosts ABC's morning show, George Nuffalupagus, he was Bill Clinton's press secretary. And now he's been a TV celebrity for the last 25 years.

[Chris Keane]

It's wild to me that people who work in our government end up working in the press.

[Jimmy Dore]

In the press.

[Chris Keane]

And then people are like, why don't you trust the press? Well, I mean. Are you not seeing this?

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, this is Jimmy. Who's this?

[Cash Patel]

What's up, dude? It's Cash fucking Patel.

[Jimmy Dore]

FBI Director Patel. What a pleasure. How are you?

[Cash Patel]

Oh, you know me, son. Catching crooks and dating exclusively for looks.

[Jimmy Dore]

I see. Good. Good to know. There. There have been a lot of articles lately about your erratic and unpredictable manner at helming the FBI.

[Cash Patel]

Yeah, it's been a fucking ride, dude. A fucking ride. That's how life is sometimes, dude. Like, who knows what the next day may bring? So just grab onto something and hold the fuck on. Sometimes it feels like I'm just trying to not fall off the earth, you know?

[Jimmy Dore]

Sounds like you're describing a weekend bender in college.

[Cash Patel]

Yeah. If you went to a college where they have a giant room with every drug known to man and you are personally in charge of that room. Yeah, I guess so.

[Jimmy Dore]

Does this explain why you recently broke a promise to the head of MI5, one of our closest intelligence allies?

[Cash Patel]

That's just part of the journey, Brohim not proud of. It definitely was not advisable, but I've ascended to a spiritual plane thanks to microdosing ayahuasca, where I absolutely do not give a fuck.

[Jimmy Dore]

I see. I see.

[Cash Patel]

And it is for this very same spiritual training that is preparing me for my greatest challenge yet. Flying to China for FBI shed.

[Jimmy Dore]

Why such a challenge?

[Cash Patel]

Okay, well, first of all, surviving a private jet flight of that duration with all of the substances that I plan on having on board would be a challenge to the fortitude and constitution of a racehorse, let alone a human being and his various. We're going to get Man o War drunk. Do you understand? We're going to be doing seabiscuit rails at 30,000ft with porn on the big screen. Do you see this picture I'm painting for you right now?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, very clearly, in fact.

[Cash Patel]

Okay, good. But that's just the prelude. Then we actually get to China. And why are we going to China? Ostensibly, to talk to our Chinese counterparts about stopping the flow of fentanyl in the US which they are amenable to. But the real reason we're going, the reason behind the reason, it is to do fucking fentanyl.

[Jimmy Dore]

You're joking.

[Cash Patel]

Joking? Dude, I haven't Even blinked in five minutes. Yes. Fentanyl. It's the final boss of drugs, dude. None of us have done it before and we wanted to do it right. Go to the source, get the proper dosage. You know as well as I do, you can't just start consuming with the good shit. You need to know what you're doing and how much to take. You need a Sherpa, you need a sober standby. And I trust these Chinese fuckers more than anyone with this shit. I don't want whatever is gacking out these zombies on the streets of San Francisco. The compromised bullshit delivered by amateurs. But I do want to get that gacked out. And I will be this time tomorrow.

[Jimmy Dore]

And tax dollars are paying for this?

[Cash Patel]

For this China deal that will stem overdoses in the U.S. absolutely. This completely mind blowing, life changing, dick hardening experience I'm about to have is simply my finders fee. You're welcome, America. Keep the fucking change.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, I guess. Thank you for your service.

[Cash Patel]

Thank you for your tax dollars, bitch. And speaking of dollars rolling in, my girlfriend is suing like everybody for millions. So after the Trump administration we can blow this peanut stand and kick it in Aruba in death. We got the idea after doing a bunch of rails in a P. F Chang's bathroom.

[Jimmy Dore]

Your girlfriend, the Mossad agent honeypot.

[Cash Patel]

You want to get sued too, motherfucker? Bring it on, dude. Satire. Laws won't protect you. Not in cash. Patel's America. We'll edit this whole fucking video.

[Jimmy Dore]

Whoa, whoa, easy. Go ahead and set the record straight.

[Cash Patel]

My girlfriend Alexa isn't Israeli. She was born here and she's not even Jewish. She's a devout Christian country singer. Not that I'm bashing that. I dated an Israeli chick before and it was. It was perfectly lovely. I loved having my date complain about my choice of restaurants, then send her order back to the kitchen like three times and then demand I only tip a doll and make a public scene if I didn't. Lovely people, lovely ancient traditions.

[Jimmy Dore]

Shit, I see.

[Cash Patel]

But Alexa is my partner. She's perfect for me. She's beautiful, she's talented, but most importantly, she's five foot even. And I get so pissed when people say this about her. These are fucking lies, dude.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, a matter of fact, we're having Elijah Schaefer on the show today. One of the many people you guys are suing for $5 million.

[Cash Patel]

What?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, we wanted to get his side of the story.

[Cash Patel]

I'll tell you what this side of the story is that tweeted out that Alexa's a honeypot and she's not. She has a honey pot, that's for God damn sure, son. But she isn't one in the way that he meant.

[Jimmy Dore]

He didn't say that. Technically, all he did was tweet a picture of you two, but it was.

[Cash Patel]

With a retweet, dude, a quote. Tweet, retweet, tweet, tweet, tweet. Says the little fuck bird. The intention was clear, dude. Crystal.

[Jimmy Dore]

Are you $5 million levels sure of that?

[Cash Patel]

Jimmy, my girlfriend and I are at any given moment, Ray Liotta at the end of Goodfellas level, fucked up on drugs. We're not sure if it's day or night, but who cares? We are suing these bitches to kingdom come and no one can stop us.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, technically, judges could dismiss these judges.

[Cash Patel]

Yeah, judges are not a problem for me in Trump's America. My boss would swiftly take care of that problem. And after this China trip, trust me, he will owe me favors forever.

[Jimmy Dore]

Why?

[Cash Patel]

Okay, look, just between you and me, Viagra, Cialis, all the conventional weapons have stopped working for him. His impotence is like an immovable object. But apparently in China, there's like this jungle root that has never been defeated, and he wants me to bring him back some.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow, really?

[Cash Patel]

Yeah, dude. My connection over there is like Chinese women least horny in worlds. So why a billion people? The answer, constant bonus. So, yeah, dude, gonna make a little extra cash selling what's left over because what does a player do? Make money. Money make money make.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, well, great to hear from you as always, and good luck with your endeavors at the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

[Cash Patel]

The fucking what? Oh, FBI. Right, right, right. Thanks, coaches. I'm so.

[Jimmy Dore]

Ah. Come see us in Australia. Second show's added in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. We'll see you in Burbank, California, the day after Thanksgiving. It's a Friday. And then Pottstown, Pennsylvania, December 6th plus January 11th, we're gonna be in Waikiki at the Blue Note. Tickets not available yet for them, but go to jimmy dore.com for a link. For all the other t. Hey, become a premium member. Go to jimmy door comedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be and. And I'll keep being me.

[Candace Owens]

Out.

[Chris Keane]

Don't freak out.

[Jimmy Dore]

Don't freak out. Don't freak out.

[Chris Keane]

Don't freak out.

[Jimmy Dore]

Don't freak out. Do not freak out.

[Candace Owens]

I'm not kidding. Do that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Do not freak out. Freak out. Freak out. Freak out, Freak out.