Melania BLINDSIDES White House With Epstein Press Conference!

Summary

The Jimmy Dore Show — April 13, 2026
Episode: “Melania BLINDSIDES White House With Epstein Press Conference!”
Host: Jimmy Dore
Guest: Max Blumenthal
Featured Contributors: Kurt, unnamed commentators/fans
Special Focus: Shocking Melania Trump press conference, Epstein-White House connections, aftermath and political intrigue

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Episode Overview

This explosive episode centers on a surprise press conference given by Melania Trump addressing rumors of her connections to Jeffrey Epstein. Jimmy and his team react in real-time, unpacking both the content of Melania’s statement and the surrounding political chaos. The episode rapidly unravels theories of blackmail, media dynamics, internal White House turmoil, and the ongoing war with Iran, while also featuring analysis from journalist Max Blumenthal. The result is a fast-paced, irreverent, and cynical deep-dive into scandal, political maneuvering, and broader critique of the bipartisan US establishment, delivered with Jimmy Dore’s signature satirical edge.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Melania Trump’s Epstein Press Conference

([03:12]–[06:19])

• Melania Trump unexpectedly calls a press conference to categorically deny any relationship or significant connection to Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell.
• She details her first encounters, clarifies her own timeline, and insists:

  “To be clear, I never had a relationship with Epstein. Or he, his accomplice, Maxwell. …I am not Epstein’s victim. Epstein did not introduce me to Donald Trump.” – Melania Trump ([03:12])

• Melania calls on Congress to hold public hearings for Epstein’s survivors, an unprecedented step:

  “…Give these victims their opportunity to testify under oath in front of Congress with the power of sworn testimony…” – Melania Trump ([05:04])

2. Reactions and Theories on Melania’s Motives

([06:19]–[15:08])

• Universal surprise at the press conference; even Fox News and the West Wing reportedly blindsided ([12:43]).
• Jimmy and commentators speculate Melania’s motive is crisis PR:

  “…She’s being threatened with some stuff coming out, right? So she’s trying to get out ahead of it.” – Jimmy Dore ([04:40])

• Cites Glenn Greenwald’s reaction:

  “This is gobsmacking. Not only did Melania Trump suddenly decide to give a televised address about Jeffrey Epstein, she’s calling on Congress to act because Epstein was not alone. She just threw a giant stick of political dynamite into the issue her husband despises.” – (paraphrased from Glenn Greenwald via Jimmy Dore, [08:17])

• Theorizes possible Israeli blackmail (Mossad), internecine White House struggles, and a link to ongoing Iran tensions.

  “…the blackmail Mossad has on Trump is Melania and Epstein… This statement… because she knows the dirt’s coming out to force Trump back into the war. And Israel first they have been controlling Trump with this material. It’s obvious now.” – Jimmy Dore ([13:57])

3. Contradictory Evidence and Leaked Documents

([09:30]–[14:46])

• Read out of friendly emails from Melania to Ghislaine Maxwell calls into question her “no relationship” assertion ([09:30]).
• FBI documentation and Epstein’s assistant’s statements appear to contradict Melania’s public timeline:

  “…an assistant to Epstein told the FBI… that Epstein had indeed introduced Trump to Melania.” – Jimmy Dore ([10:28])

• Redacted documents fuel further suspicion among hosts and audience ([10:53]).

4. Deportation Drama and Model Agency Origins

([15:08]–[23:15])

• Deep dive into the role of modeling agent Paolo Zampolli in Melania’s entry into the US and her possible links to Epstein ([15:09], [18:33]).
• Amanda Ungaro, an alleged Epstein victim and mother of Zampolli’s child, threatened to “spill secrets” after being deported in a custody dispute.
• Amanda’s threatening social media posts are read:

  “I will tear down the entire system. Be careful with me, biatch.” – Amanda Ungaro ([21:32])
  “Shut your mouth when speaking about me, because I will expose everything I know.” – Amanda Ungaro ([19:00])

• Jimmy and company see Melania’s press conference as preemptive damage control for anticipated revelations from Ungaro.

5. Wider Political Fallout and Media Reaction

([23:29]–[32:56])

• Speculation that the press conference is being used or timed to distract from or influence the Iran war, peace negotiations, or to manipulate Trump ([13:57], [23:31]).
• Analysis of Trump’s scattered reaction on Truth Social, lashing out at media figures and further exposing his frustration:

  “…He’s getting to a certain type of dementia. …I think that Sunday tweet he did on Easter where he said he’s going to wipe out their civilization. I think that this is all proof of that.” – Jimmy Dore ([28:00])

• Tucker Carlson’s letter (read by Candace Owens): discusses Israeli blackmail of US leaders, referencing historic precedent and speculating about current events with Trump ([33:17]–[35:20]).

6. Max Blumenthal: The Democrats, Neocons, and The War

([35:39]–[52:23])

• Max Blumenthal joins to argue that Democrats, just like Republicans, are run by neoconservatives devoted to Israel.
• He highlights the partisan cynicism: Democrats attack Trump both for starting and for ending wars, with no focus on principle or peace ([38:08], [40:05]).

  “As Russiagate demonstrated, the Democrats are most comfortable opposing Trump from the neocon right.” – Max Blumenthal ([40:05])

• Recaps how Democratic leaders (Chris Murphy, Chuck Schumer) are driven by pro-Israel lobbying and ignore their antiwar base ([45:22], [46:42]).
• The party, says Blumenthal, is “competing for the same right wing voting base” and is full of CIA/Deep State figures ([49:51], [51:50]).
• Curtailing of progressive voices and power of Zionist donors in both parties ([61:42]).

  “All of it. Every single penny that went into the construction of the DNC’s offices was provided by Haim Saban. And who is Haim Saban? He is an Israeli American billionaire who has said, ‘I’m a one issue guy and my issue is Israel.’” – Max Blumenthal ([62:20])

7. Broader Disillusionment and Critique of Political System

([52:23]–[63:09])

• Jimmy and panel rail against the “uniparty,” how both Democrats and Republicans are essentially the same on Israel/war/establishment issues.
• Eviscerate the outrage machine and false dichotomies in media “debates.”
• End on a dark, satirical note about the lack of hope for meaningful change within the current duopoly.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Melania Trump’s Unprecedented Appeal:

  “I call on Congress to provide the women who have been victimized by Epstein with a public hearing specifically centered around the survivors…” ([05:04])

• On White House Chaos:

  “Chaos in the White House. An expert for Fox News correspondent confirms the West Wing had absolutely no idea what Melania Trump was going to say.” – Jimmy Dore ([12:26])

• On Theories and Blackmail:

  “…she knows the dirt’s coming out to force Trump back into the war. And Israel first they have been controlling Trump with this material. It’s obvious now.” – Jimmy Dore ([13:57])

• Amanda Ungaro’s Threats:

  “I will tear down your corrupt system, even if it’s the last thing I do in my life. I will go all the way. I’m not afraid. Maybe you should be afraid.” – Amanda Ungaro ([22:04])

• Blumenthal on Democrats:

  “…the Democrats are most comfortable opposing Trump from the neocon right.” ([40:05])

• Kurt on Political Hopelessness:

  "You can’t have people whose careers were in the CIA...taking on these positions. It’s a coup." ([51:50])

• Blumenthal on Zionist Control:

  “All of it...Every single penny that went into the construction of the DNC’s offices was provided by Haim Saban. ...‘I’m a one issue guy and my issue is Israel.’” ([62:20])

• Jimmy Dore on Mass Disillusionment:

  “It does drive me crazy when I see people say, oh, they’re so stupid, the Trump voters, that they voted for Trump, but what the hell were they supposed to vote for? ...Here’s Kamala Harris doing the exact same thing.” ([55:19])

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Notable Timestamps

• 02:30 — Segment opens on Trump’s prior evasions about Epstein
• 03:12–05:04 — Melania Trump delivers denial, call for congressional hearings
• 08:02–09:30 — Glenn Greenwald and Michael Tracy’s “gobsmacked” reactions
• 12:46–13:43 — Fox News correspondent details White House surprise
• 15:08–19:31 — Zampolli and Amanda Ungaro backstory, threats, and motive
• 33:17–35:20 — Candace Owens reads Tucker Carlson’s letter on Israeli blackmail
• 36:02 — Max Blumenthal joins, launches critique on both parties
• 38:08–40:05 — Blumenthal on the Democrats’ Iran stance and neoconservatism
• 45:22–49:10 — Discussion of polling, party base versus leadership on Israel
• 51:50 — Kurt on CIA Democrats and shadow power
• 62:20 — Blumenthal on donor power and DNC (Haim Saban)
• 63:09 — Show closes

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Tone & Style

Irreverent, darkly comedic, and cynical, Jimmy Dore and his panel pull no punches, blending sharp analysis with relentless mockery and a conspiratorial edge. Rage, humor, camaraderie, and exasperation run throughout, cementing the show’s anti-establishment, populist left identity.

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Summary Takeaways

Listeners are left with an impression of a political class rife with self-dealing, hidden agendas, and unwillingness to confront the dark realities behind public scandals. Melania’s press conference, far from dispelling rumor, becomes a symbol of elite panic and dysfunction. Both major parties are excoriated for pro-war, pro-Israel stances, with sincere concern for Epstein’s victims and the broader global fallout buried beneath layers of spin and self-preservation.

Transcript

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[Kurt]

Establishment media sucks all gas lighting so good luck Bullshit we can't afford why fomenting this watch and see as is J the medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on. It's the chimmy door show.

[Jimmy Dore]

Remember when Donald Trump Was saying this.

[Kurt]

Kurt, are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? I mean, I can't believe you're asking

[Jimmy Dore]

a question on Epstein.

[Kurt]

That is unbelievable.

[Jimmy Dore]

Now, why do I. Why do I play that for you? I don't know. Well, because Melania came out and said this yesterday. She. She called a press conference in the east wing. I think it's the east wing. And. And they didn't tell anybody what the content was going to be. That's what. That's the reporting, anyway. It was like, complete blindside. Here's what she said. She came out and said this.

[Melania Trump]

To be clear, I never had a relationship with Epstein.

[Jimmy Dore]

Boom.

[Melania Trump]

Or he, his accomplice, Maxwell. My email reply to Maxwell cannot be categorized as anything more than casual correspondence. My polite reply to her email doesn't amount to anything more than a tribal note. I am not Epstein's victim. Epstein did not introduce me to Donald Trump. I met my husband by chance at the New York city party in 1998. This initial encounter with my husband is documented in detail in my book Melania. The first time I crossed paths with Epstein was in the year 2000 at an event Donald and I attended together. At the time, I had never met Epstein and had no knowledge of his criminal undertakings.

[Jimmy Dore]

So. Yeah.

[Commentator/Fan]

Why? Okay, so I knew about her going to the Epstein finishing school for fancy wives, for important oligarchs. Because Whitney Webb talked about it. Why is she even addressing it?

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, well, Kurt, sit back. We're gonna get into it. So then she tries. So what's happening is that she's being threatened with some stuff coming out, right? So she's trying to get out ahead of it. And here's.

[Commentator/Fan]

Don't do that.

[Jimmy Dore]

And here's the part where she tries to. Super. Get out ahead of it.

[Melania Trump]

Now is the time for Congress to act. Epstein was not al. Several prominent male executives resigned from their powerful positions after this matter became widely politicized. Of course, this doesn't amount to guilt, but we still must work openly and transparently to uncover the truth. I call on Congress to provide the women who have been victimized by Epstein with a public hearing specifically centered around the survivors. Give these victims their opportunity to testify under oath in front of Congress with the power of sworn testimony. Each and every woman should have her day to tell her story in public if she wishes. And then her testimony should be permanently entered into the Congressional record. Then, and only then, we will have the truth. Thank you.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's kind of. I don't know if you remember, I played this at the beginning Are you

[Kurt]

still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question. Epstein. That is unbelievable.

[Commentator/Fan]

Hey, someone should tell the truth about that. Milani is right, Jimmy.

[Kurt]

Interesting.

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[Kurt]

apac, which is interesting.

[Commentator/Fan]

Hey, Melody's got a real point. Someone,

[Kurt]

which is just interesting. Listen, it's interesting you say that, which is just interesting.

[Jimmy Dore]

What's interesting about it?

[Melania Trump]

That.

[Kurt]

It's just interesting.

[National Debt Relief Spokesperson]

As you bring up.

[Commentator/Fan]

Why would that law. They passed.

[Kurt]

Jeffrey Epstein,

[Commentator/Fan]

We stand with you.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here we go.

[Kurt]

We stand for you.

[Commentator/Fan]

Okay, but I can't hear it.

[Jimmy Dore]

I know, I know. I. I've offered another feed. Okay.

[Commentator/Fan]

We stand with you.

[Jimmy Dore]

We stand for you. So that's weird that he would say that and then his wife would come out and say, we needed a congressional hearing on this.

[Commentator/Fan]

Well, clearly something happened. Seems like shit. We heard from Whitney Whitey Webb herself a long time ago, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

The East Wing and the West Wing don't seem to be talking to each other very well.

[Commentator/Fan]

Ooh, is it like. So is it like the Obama household?

[Jimmy Dore]

I mean, she seems.

[Commentator/Fan]

Mike and him don't talk, and everything

[Jimmy Dore]

she said seems totally natural. I mean, how many times have people hooked up and made out with someone they are in no ways friends with? What's even memorable about a guy who owns his own island? She must have known hundreds of those guys.

[Commentator/Fan]

I had. No. Yeah, I had. He had an egg penis, and it was gross. So.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here is Glenn Greenwald. He responds the sudden. And it. By the way, Michael Tracy tweeted this out. So now I wonder how he's taken this.

[Commentator/Fan]

He's been gobsmacked, I bet. Hey, maybe it is.

[Jimmy Dore]

He says this. He says this is gobsmacked. He said it right there, Kurt. This is gobsmacking. Not only did Melania Trump suddenly decide to give a televised address about Jeffrey Epstein, she's calling on Congress to act because Epstein was not alone. She just threw a giant stick of political dynamite into the issue her husband despises. Well, so maybe there's something there. There. I don't know. Maybe he's.

[Commentator/Fan]

Did Iran hack Israel again? Because remember when Iran hacked Cash Patel?

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, that's right.

[Commentator/Fan]

Hacked Israel and got Israel's file in cash.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, is that what happened?

[Commentator/Fan]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here's what Glenn says. The sudden and inexplicable speech by Melania denying she was Epstein's victim, that he introduced her to Trump, that she had a relationship with him, and urging more investigation and disclosure is one of the most Bizarre events, especially at this point in the war.

[Commentator/Fan]

I mean, that's how you bring it up to your husband.

[Jimmy Dore]

Maybe she doesn't consider herself a victim because it worked out pretty well for her. So here's.

[Commentator/Fan]

I want to make it clear I am in no way of it.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here's the email. Dear G, how are you? Nice story about Jeffrey Epson in New York Magazine. You look great on the picture. I know you are very busy flying all over the world. How was Palm Beach? I cannot wait to go down. Give me a call when you are back in New York. Have a great time. And that's from Love, Melania. And that was from 2002.

[Commentator/Fan]

Boy, she really pours it on for people she has no relationship with.

[Jimmy Dore]

Whoa. Well,

[Commentator/Fan]

how could you?

[Jimmy Dore]

This comes as a terrible shock because in no way does she outwardly appear to be a woman capable of lying about anything.

[Commentator/Fan]

No, she's too hot.

[Jimmy Dore]

She has that natural Pollyanna innocent beauty that you would see somewhere on a dairy farm in Nebraska if it was owned by Jeffrey Epstein.

[Commentator/Fan]

Jeffrey Epstein has to breed that in an underground sperm lab in New Mexico.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here. So here is some contradictory stuff. Today, Melania Trump said the Epstein did not introduce her to Donald Trump. For the record, an assistant Epstein, an assistant to Epstein, told the FBI, effectively under penalty of perjury, that Epstein had indeed introduced Trump to Melania.

[Commentator/Fan]

Do you have Ghislaine do it? Is that what this technicality is? I'll bet you.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there it is. This is Epstein assistant told feds he introduced Melania to Trump. By the way, that's what you get for using a secondhand handler, because. Well, let's watch. So if you go to this redacted paragraph, this isn't exactly releasing the files when you redact this heavily, but at the bottom it says Zampoli was trying to buy elite models with Epstein. Epstein introduced Melania Trump to Donald Trump. That's from 2019.

[Commentator/Fan]

Hey, let's unredact the thing and we can all get all this out in the open. The redactions mean they're all guilty of every single thing they're saying they're not guilty of. That's how I take these black bars on the floor.

[Jimmy Dore]

This guy Zampoli. So Epstein was visiting Zampoli at the agency when there. When they. There were casting auditions for models. Epstein was looking through portfolios and saw blank photograph of her wearing only swim bottoms. And Zampoli were at a nightclub with Epstein, who was there with a woman believed was blank, blank, blank, took blank phone. So they did.

[Commentator/Fan]

But he said, I'm gonna put a gigantic baby in that woman.

[Jimmy Dore]

We got this place.

[Commentator/Fan]

I'm gonna put a seven foot traveling boy inside her. Too. They grow big.

[Jimmy Dore]

You can't have some. That's what you get for using a secondhand handler. Because she is not the idea of a person. She's just the messenger. Right? Anyway, Absolute chaos. Chaos in the White House. An expert for Fox News correspondent confirms the West Wing had absolutely no idea what Melania Trump was going to say. Let's listen. Come on. So.

[Chris Murphy]

So, Peter, we don't know why it

[Kurt]

looks like the White House was blindsided by this, right?

[Fox News Correspondent]

I don't think blindsided, but it seems really.

[Jimmy Dore]

Because he's. He doesn't think blindsided. He's going to right now describe exactly that he was blindsided. Okay,

[Fox News Correspondent]

blindsided. But it seems like there was not a big plan for the message to change from a wartime message and peace talks in Pakistan to this. And yesterday, all morning, we were getting calls from the afternoon shows that this statement was gonna air during. What's the topic? What's it gonna be about? And I was asking in the West Wing and they said, we don't know. We're not sure. And so it was obviously well planned by the people in the East Wing, but it was a surprise to all of us.

[Jimmy Dore]

So in other words, blindsided surprise.

[Commentator/Fan]

Well, more of a surprise. Jimmy, Jenny just texted me. Melania says she isn't Jeffrey Epstein's victim. She's the Apprentice.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here we're going to get into where this is probably coming from. Okay, so one day after the ceasefire, Melania suddenly cares about the rumors of her Epstein at the same time about the rumors of her Epstein at the same time. Trump has a falling out with Bibi Major. Falling out over losing to Iran and crashing the global economy. The blackmail Mossad has on Trump is Melania and Epstein. She was trafficked from Ukraine to Epstein modeling companies and then sold to Trump after Epstein had her. She makes this statement out of nowhere because she knows the dirt's coming out to force Trump back into the war. And Israel first they have been controlling Trump with this material. It's obvious now. So that's not my theory. I'm just showing you this is one theory.

[Commentator/Fan]

If that's all it is, that still doesn't make sense. Why Trump would cover all this shit up? Because we can't know that he bought her freedom from Epstein. This is nonsense. Like Trump did something bad. There's something real bad that's in there. It's coming out.

[Jimmy Dore]

So launch a war against Iran to cover up Epstein files and then relaunch the Epstein files to cover up the strategic defeat to Iran. It's another theory.

[Commentator/Fan]

Well, whatever Tim Pool talks about, I

[Jimmy Dore]

guess for those still behind Melania's Epstein presser yesterday, I was not a participant. Was almost certainly driven by someone named Amanda Ngaro, an Epstein victim who had a child with that guy Zamboli, who I just showed you in that other email. He's the one. Okay, so this guy Zampoli. Zampoli was trying to buy elite model with Epstein. Epstein introduced Melania Trump to Donald Trump. Okay, so that's who Zampoli is who brought. Who brought Melania. So Epstein's victim who had a child with Zampoli. This is the Amanda Ungaro who brought Melania to the United States. Zampoli just got Ungaro deported, and now she's vowing revenge. So the Zampoli guy, who according to that document, introduced Trump. Who says that. Who's in that document where it reveals that Trump was introduced to Melania by Epstein? Well, he had a baby with this Amanda Ungaro. Now they're going through a divorce, and he had her deported. And so now I don't want to acrimonious. I don't want to get too hot. So back in the 90s, Zampoli, a friend of Trump and Epstein, created ID models, that's a company. And brought the young Slovenian Melania Kraus to the United States. She hooked up with Epstein, then Zampoli introduced her to Trump. So now your first lady. So now your first lady, and it seems she's worried about this past. So that's the story. So that Zampoli, a friend of Trump and Epstein, created this modeling company, brought Melania to the United States. She then hooked up with Epstein, then Zampoli introduced her to Trump. And this is what they're trying to cover up. And this is coming. And so this is the. In 94 to 96, Sam Poly founded ID Models and Meet Slovenia model Melania Krause in Milan on a casting call. That's his story. In 96, Melania Kraus enters or not Krause Knauss. I don't know how you say her last name, her maiden name, Knaus, or maybe it's Nous without the K, is silent like knife. Enters the US and works possibly illegally with Sampoli as her agent. Zampoli says he got her an H1B visa. So between 96 and 97, Epstein claims he hooked up With Melania after a party thrown by Metropolitan Models. That's his story. In 97, Trump separates from his second wife, Marla Maples. In 98, Zampoli throws Melania a strange, lavish press conference in Paris with Slovenian media flown in, Zampoli says he then days later, introduces her to Trump. But they may have met earlier. In 98, Trump starts his own modeling agency run by Tommaso Booty. In a few months, they sign Melania. So now you see where the story's going.

[Commentator/Fan]

So they may have met earlier, and that's why she's saying she wasn't introduced to them.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. Okay, so Zampoli started a relationship with the young Epstein victim named Amanda Ungaro. They had a child with her. And then in 2025, he decided to solve his custody dispute with her by getting ICE to deport her. And then he took the child. She's now vowing to tell. To tell. All in revenge. So maybe this is what this is about.

[Commentator/Fan]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

So it's unclear why Zampoli thought that deporting a man. So here's the email, right? Hello, Melania. So this. I mean, this is the tweet. Hello, Melania. I was around you for 20 years. You knew I was inside ice and you know what hurts? After all this time, I stayed close to your family, your mother and your father, not because of you, but because of them at events and everything else. So shut your mouth when speaking about me, because I will expose everything I know.

[Commentator/Fan]

Shut your mouth when you talk about me, Jimmy. Amanda, why don't you just expose it anyway, sweetie? Why is everybody saving up all their dirty laundry for a personal advantage when you could literally save the world by exposing everything right now?

[Jimmy Dore]

Right, so here's what Capitol Hunter says. It's unclear why Zampoli thought that deporting Amando Ngaro to Brazil was the same thing as making her silent. No kidding. An account with her name just started threatening to spill secrets, immediately followed by Melania Trump's visibly nervous service press conference about Epstein.

[Commentator/Fan]

Oh, is something funny gonna happen? I hope so.

[Jimmy Dore]

The Guardian says Melania's Epstein presser was baffling. Even Fox asked if there's a story that's about to drop that she wanted to get ahead of. What's baffling is why people thought deporting a mom away from her son wouldn't have consequences.

[Commentator/Fan]

Well, we thought.

[Jimmy Dore]

I mean, the circle is tight.

[Commentator/Fan]

Kurt usually wouldn't. It's just like, a hot model and probably doesn't think she should be treated like the Filipinos that Epstein was trading.

[Jimmy Dore]

You know, the circle is tight. In March of 25, Trump made Zampoli special envoy for global partnerships. One of Zampoli's causes was getting Russian athletes back into international sports. Another helping JD Vance campaign for the pro Russian, Viktor Orban. It's a small, dirty world. I think the reason Melania is getting ahead of it is Amanda Ungaro, model Epstein, survivor and mother of a child shared with Zampoli, who was part of introducing Melania to Trump at KitKat Club, is now publicly calling her out. Zampoli also called ICE on Amanda and had her deported. So here's another tweet this. I have nothing left to lose in my life. I will tear down the entire system. Be careful with me, biatch.

[Commentator/Fan]

You know, you should have done it already, Amanda. I'm kind of annoyed that this one chick has the power to tear down the whole system, and just because she's affected now, she's going to do it. Like, fuck you. How many more of her are there?

[Jimmy Dore]

So all of them. Well, hold on. I mean, I can understand someone being afraid of powerful people, you know, coming back at her for spilling the beans.

[Commentator/Fan]

I could understand that these people are up there. All of them made. Made, like, just like, being okay with genocide. They're all made that choice where it's like, that's cool with me. Well, as long as I'm rich, that's cool.

[Jimmy Dore]

All right, well, I was. So here's another one. I will tear down your corrupt system, even if it's the last thing I do in my life. I will go all the way. I'm not afraid. Maybe you should be afraid. And what I know all of who you are and who your husband is. This is heavy duty. And here's another one. Uh, she. She said this to Pam Bondi. Are you already aware of the situation? Do you fully understand the extent of the information I possess regarding you and the individuals associated with you? I strongly advise you to consider the seriousness of these matters. Any action taken against me or attempts to escalate this situation could have significant legal consequences. I expect this to be handled with the appropriate level of responsibility and professionalism moving forward.

[Commentator/Fan]

Sounds like blackmail to me.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, well, we'll take legal action against you and your pedophile husband. I have known you for 20 years. You knew I was detained in ICE. You were present in my life every year of my son's birthday, even sending Secret Service and being the first to congratulate him back in 2016. Something was clearly wrong, but I Am not part of any evil mission involving children. So what do you do, Melania?

[Melania Trump]

You.

[Jimmy Dore]

You tried to involve me, but you failed because I have character. Says Amanda Ngaro. So what. What is the true story? We don't know.

[Commentator/Fan]

She doesn't have enough character to tell us. But.

[Jimmy Dore]

But there's something there because Melania came out and gave this press conference like that. So there's something going on.

[Commentator/Fan]

She was so upset she couldn't tell the west Wing. Just the east wing. What? This is so crazy.

[Jimmy Dore]

I wonder how Matt Taibbi's handling this news.

[Commentator/Fan]

Oh, I hope he's okay. Michael Tracy's been gobsmacked, so maybe they're gobsmacked. I hope Gob doesn't smack them.

[Jimmy Dore]

Sounds painful to be smacked with a gob kidney stone.

[Commentator/Fan]

I'm told the pain of it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. So that's interesting. That's. So there's the story and pedophile husband.

[Commentator/Fan]

Why did you hold that in until just now?

[Jimmy Dore]

No kidding.

[Commentator/Fan]

This is what I'm talking about. Like you, you've known for 20 years about her pedophile husband. You're saying this now.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, but she's probably. Again, I would be afraid of powerful people especially.

[Commentator/Fan]

Well, I just mean right now.

[Jimmy Dore]

She's probably seen what they do to people. You know, if you got nothing to

[Commentator/Fan]

lose, tell me now. Why are you. Why are you doing a blackmail thing?

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, she's doing it now because they get kicked her out of the country and she can't see her kid. That's why. That's, you know, that's what it looks like anyway. So is it. Was it. Is it BB Netanyahu? Is it Iran? Did they get into the. The. The files? Did they hack into the. To the files and they got something and would be a great bomb for

[Commentator/Fan]

Iran is to hack into those files.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Commentator/Fan]

Tell everyone in America what our leaders did. That would be the best.

[Jimmy Dore]

That would be ran. I say they would be considered heroes.

[Commentator/Fan]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Anyway, so is it. I think it's a combination of things. I think it might be both those things at once.

[Commentator/Fan]

Plus the losing war. And is Bibi mad because we have a two week cease fire that they already broke? Are they mad at us now?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. Maybe that's their. You know, that could be seen as a way to get Trump back into the war. Don't stop now.

[Commentator/Fan]

Anyway, great job Trump squandering every. Sticking with your group and what a disappointment.

[Jimmy Dore]

Come see me in Salt Lake City. Las Vegas, Nevada, May 7th. It's a Thursday special show. In Burbank, California. Tickets going fast. And then we're going to be in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, Spokane and Tacoma. Go to jimmy dore.com for a link for tickets. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy dork.com clicking on join premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. Did you see Trump's meltdown? He had a meltdown on Truth Social. He went, you know, I'm not on truth social media, so I know why Tucker Carlson. Let me just read it to you this way.

[Commentator/Fan]

No character limits on Truth Social. Huh?

[Jimmy Dore]

I know why Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens and Alex Jones. First of all, now he's talking about the top 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 podcasters in conservative media. Is there anybody bigger than them? No. Have all been fighting me for years. Especially by the fact that they think it is wonderful for Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror, to have a nuclear weapon again, that doesn't that, you know, just like calling someone an anti Semite or a sexist or. It doesn't work anymore to say Iran is the number one sponsor of terror when everyone knows it's the United States and Israel.

[Commentator/Fan]

The collective west is the inventors of all terrorism around the world. The west invented it so they could take people's shit.

[Jimmy Dore]

Like, you know, you just welcome that the head, the chief head chopper to the White House and so did the UK that the head of Al Qaeda is now.

[Commentator/Fan]

You guys don't take a high IQ to see that, does it?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, because they have one thing in common, low IQs.

[Commentator/Fan]

Do they?

[Jimmy Dore]

They're stupid people. They know it, their families know it and everyone else knows it. To look at their past, look at their record, they don't like this doesn't work either anyway. Like, it's just.

[Commentator/Fan]

You're playing Howard Stern attacking podcasts.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, it's. That's. Is what this is like it's weak. They don't have what it takes and they never did. Well, of course they do. That's why they're the top podcasters.

[Commentator/Fan]

Why are you Addressing them even.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, if they don't have what it takes. It never did. They've all been thrown off television, lost their shows and aren't even invited on TV because nobody cares about them. But. So nobody cares about them. Why are you bothering? Why would you bother? Why would you bother to write a 500 word post on Truth Social about them if nobody. Of course. So this doesn't work. This is real. He's. I think that those people who are saying that Donald Trump is, is, is he's getting to certain type of dementia. I think this is proof. I think that Sunday tweet he did on Easter where he said he's going to wipe out their civilization. I think that this is all proof of that. I think that's actually happening. Anyway, they're not strange. He says they're nut jobs, troublemakers and will say anything necessary. Free and cheap publicity. Well, if there's anybody, there's anybody who would know. Now they think they, they get some clicks because they have third rate podcasts, but nobody's talking about them. Well, now everybody's talking about them.

[Commentator/Fan]

Yeah, Dan Bongino's going to talk about him on his amazing podcast which no

[Jimmy Dore]

one listens to anymore. And their views are the opposite of maga, or I wouldn't have won the presidential election in a landslide. MAGA agrees with me and just gave CNN 100% approval. Oh my God, he's doing that. Not hand flailing fools like Tucker Carlson who couldn't even finish college. He was a broken man when he got fired from Fox and he's never been the same. Perhaps he should see a good psychiatrist. Or Megyn Kelly who's nastily asked me the now famous only Rosie o' Donnell question. Or crazy Candace Owens who accuses the highly respected first lady of France of being a man when she is not. And well, everybody in France knows she is, by the way, hopefully wins lots of money in their ongoing lawsuit. Okay, this is Trump is. Wow. And at the same time, Candace Owens wants that lawsuit because that means they, they're now responsible. Actually, to me, the first lady of France is. He's going on. Is far more beautiful woman than Candace.

[Commentator/Fan]

That great cock you want to suck like Bill Clinton's.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right? It's not even. Or bankrupt. Or bankrupt. Alex Jones, who says some of the dumbest things and lost his entire fortune, as he should have for his horrendous attack on the families of the Sandy Hook shooting victims, ridiculously claiming it was a hoax. You mean like how you claimed Epstein was a hoax? And now your wife is doing. You're still talking about it. Your wife is doing press conferences about it without your knowledge. These so called pundits are losers. And they all. It's just like comedy does. It's like if I, if we had written a comedy sketch, this is what we would write.

[Commentator/Fan]

This is like a hack, like a hack Israel show wrote this.

[Jimmy Dore]

These so called pundits are losers, Kurt, and they always will be. Now fake news, cnn, the failing New York Times and all of the other radical left news organizations are hailing them and giving them positive press for the first time in their lives. They're not MAGA. They're losers just trying to latch on to MAGA.

[Commentator/Fan]

Well, Trump is MAGA, so that's where the 100% comes from.

[Jimmy Dore]

It reminds me of that Sam Kinison joke when he was pretending what Mary was saying to Jesus. Yeah, you go around with your 12 friends with no jobs, they're losers. As president, I could get them on my side anytime I wanted to. But when they call, I don't return their calls because I'm too busy on world and country affairs. And after a few times they go nasty, just like Marjorie Trader Brown. But I no longer care about that stuff. I only care about doing right for the country. MAGA is about winning and strength and not allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons. MAGA is about making America great again. And these people have no idea how to do that. But I do. Because the United States is now the hottest country anywhere. What is he talking.

[Commentator/Fan]

If I had a magic genie lamp, the only thing I would wish for, Jimmy, is that Iran had nuclear weapons, right? Now, if I could make a magical genie give Iran nuclear weapons, that would be my only wish. Not to save the. Not any other thing but that. So please, Lord, give away nuclear weapons.

[Jimmy Dore]

So who is MAGA now? So we don't get. It's not Candace Owens, it's not Megyn Kelly, it's not Tucker Carlson, it's not Alex Jones, it's not Joe Rogan, it's not Theo Vaughn, it's not Dave Smith. It's. It's not. And Andrew Schultz. It's not who? It's not Marjorie Taylor Green, it's not Thomas Massie. Who is it? Who is MAGA now? So you got Lindsey Graham, Mark Levin. That's who's MAGA now.

[Commentator/Fan]

I think missiles vote, right? And that's how Lindsey Graham stays in power.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Candace Owens did a big podcast today. It was 40 some minutes long and she was off all week. And she was supposed to be off. So she came back out of her vacation to address Trump. This post, and here's just a piece of it, here's a little bit of it.

[Tucker Carlson]

Tucker actually has the right idea. So he published this letter and I'm going to read it. He writes he's in a tough spot. Referring to President Donald Trump establishes media establishment. Media never reports this, but the Israeli government has a storied history of blackmailing US presidents. Perhaps the most jarring example occurred in the 90s when Israel used recordings of Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky phone sex sessions as leverage to pressure Clinton into releasing convicted spy Jonathan Pollard from prison. We are not joking. That really happened. The phone sex story is worth remembering as President Trump attempts to end the Iran war. Like many other things Israel has done, it shows that America's special ally is willing to play very dirty to achieve its goals. Dark money, campaign contributions, extortion, physical threats, and even assassination. In their anti Christian worldview, the end always justifies the means. They have no issue destroying lives. Israel's current top priority is making sure Operation Epic Fury does not stop. They know the US Fighting their war for them is the best chance at expanding their borders, and becoming a global superpower in a peace deal would foil their plot. Based on the country's past, its leaders are doubtlessly willing to push as hard and as necessary to ensure the bloodshed continues. That could mean Clinton style blackmail against Trump or something far more morbid. We do not know for sure whether that is happening, but the mere possibility is haunting enough to keep the president up at night. He is under a level of pressure that most people cannot fathom with rabid Israel Firsters viciously harassing him anytime he dares to stray even slightly from their favorite country's agenda. Their shameless pursuit is steadfast enough to make even a man like Donald Trump go mad. They are as persistent as any group in history. No matter how well the White House has treated them in the past, they are never grateful. They always want more, and they refuse to give the President even an inch of breathing room. It is an unrelenting full court press. We decided to write this after Trump published a truth social post attacking our company Megan Kelly, Candace Owens and Alex Jones, each of whom supported him for years. Rather than engaging in petty name calling, we want to give the president some grace. He is facing a level of pressure is dark enough to make him abandon his campaign promises and morph into the precise kind of politician he once vowed to destroy. He would not have let that happen unless his personal stakes were really high. We hope he overcomes.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow. So she was just reading Tucker Carlson's letter.

[Commentator/Fan]

Trump told on everybody and his stinking friends that he yelled at Marjorie Taylor Greene about, you'll hurt my friends. Your friends are scum, Trump. I mean, you're a scumbag. He did that. He did that pedo thing. 100%.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, everybody, we got a special guest with us. Let me introduce him. Like he gets introduced by Judge Napolitano. Max Bloom's an award winning journalist as well as the editor and chief and founder of independent investigation news website the Gray Zone. He is also the best selling author of several books including Goliath, the 51 day war and the Management itself. Welcome back to the. To the show, my good friend, Max Blumenthal.

[Kurt]

Yeah, it's great to see you, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

We'll do doodling Napolitanos.

[Kurt]

I lost my Napolitano. I haven't been on in like a couple weeks. I'll be on tomorrow.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay.

[Kurt]

You are a great friend of the show and we love having you here and we love you. Yeah, he's very, very. He's the warmest host to ever welcome me.

[Jimmy Dore]

He really. He really does lay it on thick. I appreciate. I wish he'd invite me on the show just so I could hear him say that to me.

[Kurt]

We can make that happen.

[Jimmy Dore]

All right, let's do it. Tell me what I got to do and I'll do it. So the point, the reason why I'm having you on, Max, is because the Democrats, just so you know, are neocons. Okay? And the Democrats wanted this war for a long time too. But here's Senator Chris Murphy now. He was out. Look what he's used the school sang on April 1st. The reason I believe the war with Iran has to stop now is because every day Trump tries to clean up one mistake with a new, more innovative mistake. Every day we get deeper into a quagmire. Let's listen to him tell Chris Hayes, fake lefty Chris Hayes.

[Chris Murphy]

My clear preference is this is for this to end tomorrow. Right. Okay.

[Jimmy Dore]

So you're on the same page.

[Chris Murphy]

Yeah. Because, listen, every day, the mismanagement and the competence gets deeper and deeper. I mean, remember, they are literally talking about an invasion of Kharg island, holding the island hostage in order to maybe convince the Iranians to stop mining the strait. You know, that is kind of like the old lady who swallowed the fly. Right, Right. It's just we're gonna get deeper and deeper in. We're gonna do stupider things. Stupider things in order to clean up our previous mistakes. And the consequences of that, a ground invasion. That's not a dozen Americans dying, right? That's hundreds if not thousands of Americans dying. So yes, this needs to stop because every single day it gets more insane and more dangerous.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there he is saying, it's got to stop, we got to stop it. And so Donald Trump says, hey, I'm going to stop it. We got, I'm accepting some of the points that Iran wants. We're going to stop it. And what does Chris Murphy say then? Chris Murphy, even as, even if Iran opens, reopens the Strait, how is that a good outcome? The region is on fire. The global economy is going to take a year or more to recover and an anti American regime is in power. And emboldened Iran still has their missiles and nuclear program. That's good. He goes on. Iran says the US has agreed to their 10 point plan, which gives them control of the strait, lets them keep their nuclear program and also their missiles and drop sanctions against Iran. If this isn't true, and let's hope it's not, it's proof that there is indeed no deal. There is an account close to the Iranian leadership. We are now seeing the shape of why Iran agreed so enthusiastically to this ceasefire. They will control and toll the strait for the first time. They keep their nuclear program. They keep them. What a disaster. So he was screaming, we got to stop it now. And now that Trump did, he's saying it's a disaster. And Max Blumenthal says the Democrats believe in nothing but partisanship. Some of them will vehemently oppose Trump's maniacal war, then attack him for making a deal that threatens to wind it down. As Russiagate demonstrated, the Democrats are most comfortable opposing Trump from the neocon right. Even Adam Johnson said something smarty pants about it. He says Murphy explicitly lobbies against the tentative ceasefire deal. Pray tell, Chris, what terms do you think Iran will accept after the US sneak attack them, killed their leaders, did an Oklahoma bombing on the girls schools and killed 4,000 or more. Some version of this is the only way it ends. What do you say, Max?

[Kurt]

Well, Schumer's out there making the same statements as the Democratic leader and, and, and some, some of what they're saying is true. Yes, the Strait of Hormuz was open before this war, so it was stupid to launch the war. But you can see that their common, their comments about, or their official Democratic Party leadership distributed talking points are shot through with imperialism. They are fulminating about Iran having maintained deterrence capacity that it is entitled to under an international law. They're allowed to have a military under international law that includes ballistic missiles, drones, and anything else conventional. They're com. Chris Murphy's complaining about that, complaining that Iran still, you know, has not had its nuclear program completely ended. And so they're. And they're continuing to use this phrase. Taco Trump always chickens out. There's actually one Democrat I've seen who actually made some sense to me. Her name is Yasemin Ansari. She's a member of Congress from Arizona who has obviously no power in the party at all. And she said, I do not appreciate any one Democrat or Republican taking this moment to make taco jokes, to say Trump chickened out. The President was threatening genocide against 90 million Iranians. I'm grateful there's a ceasefire and scores of innocent people didn't die tonight. So there's one Democrat who's focused more on principle. The principle being not slaughtering people and ending a war that was essentially a war for Israel in which no American interest was served, and declaring that what all political leadership, regardless of party, should focus on is having a durable ceasefire. And a durable ceasefire along the 10 point program that Iran introduced would mean a devastating blow to Israel and its ability to draw the US into war after war that not only have devastated this region, but. But sent the global economy spiraling into a crisis that could be far worse than the one we saw under Covid. So there's no principle at the top of the Democratic Party. They're guided entirely by partisanship. And as soon as Trump, if Trump launches a war, they're against it. If Trump does something seemingly, I mean, there won't be a ceasefire because, you know, he is a coward and a moron. Which I can talk about in more detail. I saw Colonel McGregor was explaining this as well. But, you know, the moment Trump even makes a move towards lowering the temperature, they start attacking him for that. And they're not only attacking him on Iran, Jimmy, they're attacking him on Venezuela. What he did in Venezuela was a war crime for sure. He has kidnapped the legitimate President of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, and his wife, Celia Flores, killed many people in the process. But they've kept in power the woman who was vice president to Maduro, Delsey Rodriguez. And Chris Murphy is leading the charge along with other Democrats attacking Trump for not installing a more right wing neocon fanatic like Maria Karina Machado. And they're just doing it because they think it helps them gain an advantage in Florida. And among, you know, Venezuelan and Cuban Americans, they don't care if it totally destabilizes Venezuela and causes another migration wave to install this fanatical woman and smash apart the Chavista movement. They'll do the same thing that they did to Trump on Ukraine, to impeach him, which was to impeach him for not being warlike enough, not providing offensive weapons to Ukraine. That's why Trump was impeached. But will they impeach him for threatening genocide against 90 million people, for threatening to kill a civilization? I haven't seen any moves toward that. I highly doubt Chuck Schumer will do so. And Schumer and Murphy, they have different interests. Schumer's interest is in Israel. He is ideologically dedicated to the Zionist force that is behind this war that will not allow a ceasefire to take place. That slaughtered over 250 people in Lebanon today, wounded over 1400 people, nearly killed the Belgian Foreign Minister who was in Beirut on a meeting. Chuck Schumer calls himself Shomer. That means Hebrew for protector. He says, I'm the protector of Israel, and this is the man leading the Democratic Party into a ditch.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that it's. When do you think that the. The American people will wake up to this, that the Democrats woken up? You think, oh, yeah.

[Kurt]

Oh, yeah. And it's gonna. The DNC is going to be a disaster. The Democratic primary is going to be a disaster because their base gets it, at least on the issue of Israel, Palestine. I mean, just look at the latest Pew polling. Over 60% of Americans have a negative view of Israel. However, most Republicans have a positive view of Israel, and it's not many, though. It's like by a narrow margin. Because Republicans under 40.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, it's just the Republicans over 50, actually. Right?

[Kurt]

The Fox Boomer class who doesn't know right from wrong and looks to Trump as a kind of moral beacon. With Trump being basically controlled by Netanyahu. They favor Israel. The rest of them, no, they're done. Republican Catholics see the way that Christians are being abused in the Holy Land, or they see the Catholic Church in the US Being threatened by Pete Hegseth, Pentagon. They're. They're just. The gulf is too wide. But among Democrats, support for Israel is in the single digits. And look who the Democrats are putting up in the primary. Rahm Emanuel, JB Pritzker from the very pro Israel Pritzker family, which was one of the two pro Israel families that actually funded the rise of Barack Obama and kept him in line on Israel. Josh Shapiro, who's really crafting himself as kind of the pro Israel candidate who was a classmate of CNN's Israel enforcer Jake Tapper and American Psycho from California, who initially called Israel an apartheid state. And then as soon as he was challenged, the moment he was challenged, he apologized and said he deeply supports Israel. So there's going to be a real crisis in the Democratic Party. But the depth. So what Chuck Schumer has done here is he's trying to avoid this crisis because it will ultimately center on him. What was the last thing Chuck Schumer did nationally was go on a book tour to promote his book on the rise of anti Semitism. Like that's what he's selling to the American public when the American public is concerned about the rise of unaffordability, the rise of inflation, kitchen table issues. And he's focused on these boutique issues that are particular to a certain class of American Jews who are Zionist. And it's paranoia. He's tried to avoid this. And his strategy with this war, as far as I can tell, is very similar to the Pied Piper strategy that was exposed by WikiLeaks during the Republican primary in 2016 when Hillary Clinton's campaign crafted this strategy, which you've talked about a million times, to elevate Donald Trump because they thought Donald Trump is going to be a clown who would actually be the weakest candidate against Hillary Clinton. And they. So right now what they're doing is they're doing everything possible to avoid getting in the way of Trump's war and getting in the way of this war for Israel because they think this war will destroy Donald Trump. And so they actually want, the leadership actually wants the war to continue. And at the same time, they don't want to defy Israel or do anything meaningful to stand in the way of what is kind of an existential war for Netanyahu, a war for Israeli hegemonic control of the region, because Schumer shares those. Even though he'll criticize and attack Netanyahu, he shares the same kind of ideological baseline worldview.

[Jimmy Dore]

And let's remember, you know, Chuck Schumer doesn't even care about appealing to Democrats. Let's remember what he said famously in 2016 about who they wanted to vote for. Democrats. You ready for this? For every blue collar Democrat we will lose in western pa, we will pick up two, three moderate Republicans in the suburbs of Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin. So again, they're all competing for the same right wing voting base that, yeah, they don't even Try to appeal to the left wing.

[Kurt]

Yeah, no, they want. It's the suburban soccer mom strategy of the New Democrats coming out of the 1990s when they sold out the unions and, you know, wanted to kind of kick Jesse Jackson out of the party and bring in all these Barack Obama type characters to replace all the civil rights stalwarts that had some radical views. And so they, you know, they turn to the suburbs and they focus on issues like abortion or gay marriage, avoid real economic populism going after elites, bring in tons of money from Wall Street. I mean, that was sort of the basis of the Clinton Obama wing and their rise to power. Chuck Schumer comes out of that milieu, and this is still his perspective. And it's why we see the Democratic Party introducing figures who really should have no place in American politics for many reasons before we actually want to be a democracy. The CIA, Democrats. Abigail Spanberger, who's the governor of Virginia, Mickey Sherrill, who was her roommate from Naval Intelligence in New Jersey, and Alyssa Slotkin from the CIA in Michigan. Spanberger was selected. She's got the charisma of a filing cabinet. Yet she was selected to deliver the Democratic response to Donald Trump. I mean, it didn't go badly. It just didn't do anything. It just shows that they are obviously trying to elevate someone who worked out of the Brussels station of the CIA and had more foreign passports then Jeffrey Epstein. Five foreign passports. Alissa Slotkin. I could easily see her. Someone who refuses to even address the issue of aipac, refuses to break with Israel, is a warmonger at heart. I could see her being the VP pick for the Democrats easily. I could easily see that happening again.

[Jimmy Dore]

Go ahead.

[Kurt]

You can't have people whose careers were in the CIA where we can't vet them. We have no idea what they were doing for years taking on these positions. It's a coup. It is a takeover of a party and of civilian positions by a shadowy intelligence bureaucracy that has a $100 billion black budget that is unaccountable to the public. We can't allow that. And that's who Chuck Schumer is pushing forward.

[Jimmy Dore]

As Caitlin Johnstone points out. Getting back to our point about the Democrats actually being neocons and always, as you pointed out, attacking Trump from the neocon right. She says the actual official 2024 Democratic Party platform accused Trump of fecklessness and weakness for failing to go to war with Iran during his first term. Even Kamala Harris labeled him the number one enemy of the United States. And in their 2024 debate, she repeatedly slammed Trump for being too soft on America's enemies and announced that she will always give Israel the ability to defend itself, in particular, as it relates to Iran and any threat that Iran and its proxies pose to Israel. That's a quote. There was no plan for avoiding this. Your people wanted this war as much as Trump and his handlers did. That's why they're doing nothing right now. And now people like Chris Murphy are trying to sabotage Trump's ceasefire, which has already been sabotaged by. By Israel. And let me just show you here. Here is. Here's Kamala Harris being asked about this very issue in Iran. Here's how she responded to it during the campaign.

[Kurt]

Which foreign country do you consider to be honorable?

[Jimmy Dore]

Which country do you consider to be our number one foe?

[Kamala Harris]

Well, there are different reasons that we should be thoughtful about each. Most recently, I think there's an obvious one in mind, which is Iran. And. And look, I mean, Iran has American blood on their hands, okay? And what we saw in terms of just this attack on Israel, 200 ballistic missiles, what we need to do to ensure that Iran never achieves the ability to be a nuclear power.

[Jimmy Dore]

So you get this a lot. People saying, you know. And I'll say, you know, MAGA is abandoning Trump and they feel betrayed. I go out on tour and I talked to a lot of MAGA people. I would say half my audience were former Trump voters. Former. They're disaffected Republicans and disaffected Democrats. And when I tell people that these former Republicans, they feel betrayed, they go, well, how stupid could you be? You're gonna trust a con man? Well, who the hell were they supposed to vote for? Here's Kamala Harris and the Democrats doing the exact same goddamn thing. And they're just as in bed with Israel, as you pointed out, with Chuck Schumer at the tippy top of the party. And now they're going to run a bunch of Zionists who are also in the pocket, including Gavin Newsom, by the way, who came out and strongly in support of Zionism.

[Kurt]

Denounced himself.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, yeah, he denounced himself. So it does drive me crazy when I see people say, oh, they're so stupid, the Trump voters, that they voted for Trump, but what the hell were they supposed to vote for? Here's Kamala Harris doing the exact same thing. At least Trump was saying the opposite when he was campaigning. So it's just like when, you know, was. I don't know if you remember when Mondale was running against Reagan, and they had a debate, and Mondale said, we're both going to raise your taxes. I'm going to tell you, he's going to lie to you about it. Well, I'm going to vote for the guy who says he's not. That's exactly the same thing that played out here. You know, the Democrats were in the middle of doing a genocide in Gaza, and they had started a proxy war with the nuclear power or Russia, and Trump was saying, we don't need to do that stuff. So what? Like, it's not like we had a choice. Right. And so I just. It drives me nuts to hear people try to insult and criticize people who voted for Trump in that way. Like, they're so stupid. What did you think was going to happen? Well, what the fuck did you think was going to happen? What, do you take it wherever you want, Max?

[Kurt]

Yeah, I don't have any hope for the Republican base right now. It's still overrun with Christian Zionism. I think we underestimate how deeply embedded it is in the base, along with just sheer racism towards Muslims, Arabs, the brown folks. Like, there's still that contingent that's dominant in the Republican base that makes it very difficult for the America first element to really break through and start changing Republican messaging and policy on. Specifically on Israel. The Democrats, their base is already just ready to fully sanction Israel. They're ready to enthusiastically support sanctions on Israel, and the Democratic Party is not Democratic. So I know I didn't support Trump. I didn't vote for Trump. I'm not surprised about anything Trump did based on the level of Israeli control that was apparent on his campaign in 2024 and during his first term. But I thought that Kamala Harris had to be punished, the Democrats had to be punished. Joe Biden had to be punished for the genocide in Gaza and for Tony Blinken's actions. They had every opportunity to end the genocide. They also could have prevented the genocide as well. And they did everything possible to give Netanyahu all the space he needed to not only perpetrate the holocaust of our time in Gaza, but to extend it into Iran, starting with the assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, at the inauguration of Iran's reformist president, Masoud Pezeshkian, which was designed to draw Iran into the conflict. That's the dynamic that the Democrats needed to be punished for. And they need to see that they cannot get away with that again, that an element in their own base will turn their backs on the Democrats every time until they declare that Israel is a red line, Israel must be sanctioned. There cannot be peace as long as there is Israeli apartheid. Now I would obviously be a lot more activist if I were a Democratic candidate in my proposed policy towards Israel. I would turn around the uss, the us, USS Gerald Ford and whatever's left of it, and the George W. Bush and the B52 bombers that were sent to Iran from British airfields and I'd redirect them from Iran to Israel. And I would stage a military intervention to liberate the Palestinian people from the death camps that they've been subjected to in Gaza. And I would subject Israel to the most punishing sanctions regime in history until it implemented UN Resolution 194 to allow for the right of return of the Palestinian people as well as the end of apartheid. And anyone who wants to live in a state with equal rights for all can stay there. But I would end it all. I would end this apartheid system on day one. I'm not expecting a Democratic candidate to do that. Okay? But the least they can do is call for sanctions on Israel. End the arms shipments, stop the railways to Auschwitz. That's what this is. These are the modern railways to Auschwitz. The genocide in Gaza is ongoing. People are stuck in tents that are being infested with rats. Israel murdered a very prominent Al Jazeera journalist today. Targeted him in his car. Israel attacked over 100 sites in Lebanon, all across Lebanon, murdering over two hundred and fifty people. They bombed a funeral in a cemetery with a 500 pound bomb. All right, as long as this cancerous ethnosuppremacist state is there and the Democratic base is with me here, there will not be peace in the region. And they will continue to drag down one candidate after another. One president after another. They destroyed Kamala Harris, they destroyed Joe Biden. They've destroyed, they've effectively destroyed Donald Trump because no one has the balls to stand up to them. And that's what we need right now. We don't even need someone. It would be great to have a candidate who can articulate the dangerous and devious logic of Zionism to the American public, but we don't even need that. The Democratic base is already there. They need someone with the balls. They to just simply stand up to Israeli leadership and say no more. You're not getting another dime or another penny or another Shekel from us. And they will be rewarded. And they will also face a vicious assault from the Democratic Party leadership, the losercrats of Chuck Schumer and everyone else who has been responsible for this catastrophe. So the people are there, the public is there, but the leadership is nowhere.

[Jimmy Dore]

I mean, I was there in Chicago at the DNC and they wouldn't even allow a Palestinian to speak on the stage.

[Kurt]

And had they done that and the Palestinian had said what I said, if they'd just called for the full liberation of Palestine, they would have been greeted with uproarious cheers, gales of, of applause, and it would have freaked out the donor class behind the curtain. The Zionist billionaires like Haim Saban and Casey Wasserman, the grandson of Lou Wasserman, who is Hollywood's sort of contact to the mafia, who is a major Zionist donor. There's so many of them that still pull the strings of Democratic party leadership in the DNC. The DNC's office in Arlington, Virginia, Jimmy, was built by Chaim Saban. All of it. Every single penny that went into the construction of the DNC's offices was provided by Chaim Saban. And who is Chaim Saban? He is an Israeli American billionaire who has said, I'm a one issue guy and my issue is Israel. So. And we're talking about the Democrats. Israeli control over the Republican party and over Trump is more comprehensive and more substantial because there is so much less resistance there and because Trump is completely craven and cynical and just was willing to take the money and make this, this Faustian bargain, this deal with the devil, the devil being the Adelson family.

[Jimmy Dore]

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