Pam Bondi FORCES Facebook To CENSOR!

Summary

The Jimmy Dore Show — Episode Summary

Episode Title: Pam Bondi FORCES Facebook To CENSOR!
Episode Date: October 17, 2025
Host: Jimmy Dore
Guest/Co-host: Kurt
Special Contributions: James Lee, Dan Parker

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Episode Overview

On this episode, Jimmy Dore explores government pressure on social media platforms, focusing on a recent case where Pam Bondi, under the Trump administration, convinced Facebook to take down a group tracking ICE agents in Chicago. Dore connects this incident to a broader pattern of government censorship, regardless of which political party is in power, and draws explicit parallels between the Biden and Trump administrations’ approaches. The conversation spirals into a wide-ranging critique of U.S. censorship, foreign interventionism, the culture of secrecy around official narratives, and a deep-dive into suspicious digital footprints around the Charlie Kirk assassination. Throughout, Dore wields his signature blend of outrage, sarcasm, and skepticism towards political and media establishments.

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Key Discussion Points & Notable Segments

1. Government Censorship: Biden vs. Trump Administrations

Timestamps: 02:05 – 06:22

• Summary:
  • Dore recounts evidence that the FBI, White House, and Justice Department have pressured platforms (Twitter, Facebook, Google/YouTube) to censor posts—even those not violating the platforms’ policies.
  • He references the Twitter Files and Mark Zuckerberg's 2024 admission that both Biden and Trump administrations demanded content suppression.
  • Quote:

    "No matter who you vote for, you get John McCain. So no matter who you vote for, they're going to do censorship."
    — Jimmy Dore [03:19]

2. Pam Bondi and Facebook’s Removal of ICE Sightings Group

Timestamps: 03:57 – 06:19, 07:42 – 14:00

• Summary:

  • After a Justice Department request, Facebook removed a group with 80,000 members reporting ICE sightings in Chicago.

  • Bondi's justification: group promoted “doxxing” and endangered officers.

  • Dore and Kurt challenge the definition of “doxxing” used, noting agents' public function and lack of real harm or attacks.

  • Dore points out hypocrisy versus widespread tools for locating law enforcement (e.g., Waze).

  • Quote:

    "You don't get to have anonymous secret police in the United States out patrolling the streets."
    — Jimmy Dore [05:13]

  • Meta’s Policy Shifts — Politicization of Censorship:

    • Meta claims the group violated policies on "coordinating harm."
    • Dore notes that the Meta spokesperson, Frances Brennan—a former Trump campaign adviser—declined to specify if the DOJ's request prompted the removal.
    • Quote:

      "Meet the new boss. Just like the old boss."
      — Jimmy Dore [06:19]

3. Selective Enforcement, Migrant Labor, and Political Hypocrisy

Timestamps: 07:42 – 10:13

• Summary:
  • Dore argues that if the government truly wanted to address illegal immigration, they would prosecute employers, not workers.
  • Connects the lack of interest in prosecuting employers to the power of business interests.
  • Quote:

    "If you really want to get rid of illegal immigration, you would go and arrest the guy who's hiring them at the farms...But they're not delivering that service."
    — Jimmy Dore [07:29]

4. Censorship as a Bi-Partisan Issue & First Amendment Concerns

Timestamps: 13:59 – 19:10

• Summary:
  • The hosts criticize both Democrats and Republicans for only caring about free speech when out of power.
  • The show highlights how reporting on public ICE activity is protected speech, and that the First Amendment’s value is in protecting "gross expression" as much as agreeable speech.
  • Quote:

    "The First Amendment does not only apply to content that makes you feel good... If you don't believe in protecting gross expression, then you don't believe in the First Amendment — and they don't."
    — Jimmy Dore [18:13]

5. Foreign Policy: Venezuela, CIA Covert Operations, and Regime Change

Timestamps: 20:34 – 36:39

• Summary:

  • New revelations about the Trump administration authorizing the CIA to undertake covert operations in Venezuela.
  • Dore notes US involvement in regime change as a decades-long bipartisan policy, lampoons the mainstream media’s support for Trump when acting as an imperialist, and invokes historical precedent stretching back to the 1950s.
  • The hosts criticize the hypocrisy of US claims to promote democracy and humanitarianism.
  • Quote:

    "Let’s say [Maduro] is an authoritarian...what business is it of ours how Venezuela governs themselves? It isn’t our business and we don’t give a shit about authoritarian rulers. We’re in bed with 90% of them across the world."
    — Jimmy Dore [22:34]

• Tulsi Gabbard’s Past Opposition & Present Silence:

  • Dore shares a 2019 clip of Tulsi Gabbard denouncing US regime change policy before she joined the Trump administration, questioning whether she’ll act differently now.
  • Quote (from Tulsi, 2019):

    "...we should continue to go around...overthrowing and toppling dictators or countries who we don’t like, costing us, the American people, trillions of dollars in the process...undermining our own national security..."
    — Tulsi Gabbard [34:08 – 36:02]

6. Suspicious Patterns in the Charlie Kirk Assassination Case

Timestamps: 37:44 – 57:50

• Summary:
  • Dore presents findings from James Lee and Dan Parker, highlighting suspicious Google search patterns originating from Washington D.C. and Israel before the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
  • Individuals (or institutions) searched for the alleged assassin’s name, the hospital Kirk was taken to, its surgeons, and the medical examiner—all before the events occurred. Dore suggests this hints at “pre-event institutional knowledge.”
  • The team discusses how official narratives and investigations seem unreliable, with oddities around hospital choices and autopsy secrecy.
  • Quote:

    "Why would anyone from Israel or Washington, D.C. be doing a Google search for that regional hospital? Interesting. And it’s clustered together."
    — Jimmy Dore [45:03]

  • Quote:

    "I just think that’s… This is beyond suspicious. This is a clue. That’s what this looks like."
    — Jimmy Dore [55:40]

7. Establishment Media Silence & General Institutional Distrust

Timestamps: 60:30 – 61:04

• Summary:
  • Dore bemoans the lack of mainstream coverage, asking why prominent media figures aren't investigating obvious leads or acknowledging suspicious circumstances.
  • Quote:

    "Why is it -- why aren't they talking about this on Fox News? Why aren't they talking about this on CNN on their round tables where they talk about every stupid thing? Why doesn't Piers Morgan talk about this?"
    — Jimmy Dore [60:30]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On bipartisan censorship:
  "Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss."
  — Jimmy Dore [06:19], referencing the recurring nature of government censorship

• On ICE agent doxxing and secrecy:
  "You don't get to have anonymous secret police in the United States out patrolling the streets."
  — Jimmy Dore [05:13]

• On free speech:
  "The First Amendment does not only apply to content that makes you feel good... If you don't believe in protecting gross expression, then you don't believe in the First Amendment — and they don't."
  — Jimmy Dore [18:13]

• On US foreign regime change legacy:
  "It’s imperialism again. It’s John McCain again."
  — Jimmy Dore [23:02]

• On the odd timing of Google searches before Charlie Kirk’s assassination:
  “That is interesting. And to be clear, I’m not coming to any conclusions myself just yet, but that is how Google is interpreting its own trends data."
  — James Lee [41:09]

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:05 | Dore opens with governments pressuring social media to censor| | 03:57 | Introduction of the Pam Bondi/Facebook ICE group incident | | 05:13 | Secret police/ICE anonymity debate | | 07:42 | ICE group details, Chicago Sun-Times and enforcement critique| | 13:59 | Discussion of First Amendment and government hypocrisy | | 19:10 | Shift to Trump’s DEI-for-Jews policy and expanded censorship | | 20:34 | Announcement of CIA Venezuela covert operations | | 34:08 | Tulsi Gabbard’s anti-regime change remarks from 2019 | | 37:44 | Introduction of suspicious Google trends about Kirk shooting | | 45:03 | Revelations about Israeli/DC searches targeting hospital staff| | 55:40 | Dore: “This is beyond suspicious. This is a clue.” | | 60:30 | Dore questions mainstream media silence |

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Episode Takeaways

• Government-led social media censorship is not partisan: Both Biden and Trump administrations have pressured social media to suppress content under different pretexts, with similar techniques and justifications.
• Definitions matter: The conversation raises the question of what constitutes “doxxing,” particularly when applied to public officials acting in official capacity and the consequences for civic accountability and speech.
• Enduring imperial policy: US-backed regime change, particularly in Latin America, is exposed as a legacy problem—cheered on by media and only selectively questioned depending on political context.
• Critical skepticism of official narratives: The show invites listeners to question the official stories —from censorship justifications to high-profile assassination investigations—pointing out digital evidence and narrative inconsistencies.
• The media’s complicity and avoidance: Dore ridicules big media’s lack of curiosity and accountability, noting their silence on issues that are both newsworthy and suspicious.

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Tone & Style:
Consistently irreverent, blunt, and confrontational; laced with sarcasm and pop culture references; deeply skeptical of all government and media authority regardless of party; prioritizes transparency and First Amendment protection.

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This summary should serve as a detailed roadmap for listeners, highlighting the episode’s arguments, evidence, and rhetorical tactics.

Transcript

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We now know for a fact that the FBI not only pressured Twitter and Facebook to take down posts because Mark Zuckerberg admitted that on Joe Rogan. And Google has also admitted that they they were pressured by the White House to take down posts on YouTube even if it didn't break YouTube's terms of service. Which is why four of my videos got taken down for telling the truth about COVID 19. So we all know that. And then Trump came in and he's going to get rid of all that stuff, right? See, remember this headline? FBI and White House likely coerced social media platforms into removing posts. The appeals court ruled, and that is from September 11, 2023. So we've known this for a long time. Plus, the Matt Taibbi exposed this stuff with the Twitter files. So you thought. So you thought it was just the Biden administration. Turns. So there it is. Twitter files reveal US Government pressure on social media platforms to suppress alternative views. That's actual fascism. That's what that is. And that's what fascists do. That's what authoritarians do. And then they mandate you take an experimental medical treatment that you don't have informed consent about. That's Nazi stuff. That's one step further than fascism. That's Nazi stuff. It was done by your government under Joe Biden's administration. And people are pretending like somehow fascism is coming to America. We already lived through it. Well, guess what, Zuckerberg. So there it is. Zuckerberg says Biden administration pressured meta to censor COVID 19 content. Now it turns out the Biden administration is doing. The Trump administration's doing the same thing. No matter who you vote for, you get John McCain. So no matter who you vote for, they're going to do censorship. And this. So Facebook suspends popular Chicago ICE sightings group at Trump administration's request. So the Trump so Pam Bondi calls Facebook, says, take this group down. They do it. They did it. Boy, she really is milf tastic, though, I got to tell you.

[Kurt]

You think so?

[Jimmy Dore]

You see how she got the job? Look at all those mics. She must be into media bukkake.

[Kurt]

They all are.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here. This is from Pam Bondi. Today, following outreach from the Justice Department, Facebook removed a large group page that was being used to dox and target ICE government agents in Chicago. The wave of violence against ICE have been driven by online apps and social media campaigns designed to put ICE officers at risk. So has there been any documented cases of ICE officers being injured, kidnapped, shot, and any.

[Kurt]

They claim that chick was ramming her car into an ICE officer. I remember that. I don't know if that turned out to be true or not. I know that people who think it's true are just going to think it's true. I don't know myself. I'm curious about the doxing. Since when do we have anonymous anything doing anything here in A government.

[Jimmy Dore]

You don't get to have anonymous secret police in the United States out patrolling the streets.

[Kurt]

What is going on?

[Jimmy Dore]

The FBI director doesn't wear a mask. People who work at the FBI don't. The head of this, the head of ICE doesn't wear a mask. We all know what he looks like.

[Kurt]

Oh, because they hired a bunch of unqualified people as their first job working for.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's exactly right.

[Kurt]

And set them loose.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's why it's a lot of people. This is their first job in law enforcement that they. They were working at a TGI Fridays or a T TJ Maxx, something with a T the day before. And then they got hired and a $50,000 bonus to join ICE or they.

[Kurt]

Had school loans or, you know, there was a signing bonus.

[Jimmy Dore]

So she says the just engaging tech companies. Engaging. When what she means by engaging is pressuring them to censor. So that. So the Justice Department her is going to keep pressuring social media people to censor just like the Biden administration did. So meet the new boss. Just like the old boss.

[Kurt]

The same as after 9, 11. And they did all this shit.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt]

This has been going on for the 30 years I can remember.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here's the story from the Chicago Sun Times. My hometown. At the request of the US Department of Justice, Facebook group used by nearly 80,000 people to report sightings of federal immigration agents in the Chicago area has been taken down by the social media giant. The group called ICE Sightings Chicagoland has been increasingly used over the last five weeks of Operation Midway Blitz, President Donald Trump's intense deportation campaign to warn neighbors. By the way, if you really want to go, it'd be one thing if they were targeting criminals. It'd be one thing if they were actually targeting immigrants here who were criminals who committed crimes here, which is what everybody thought they were going to do. And if you really want to get rid of illegal immigration, you would go and you would arrest the guy who's hiring them at the farms. You were hiring them at a construction company. You'd arrest the guy hiring them in a meatpacking place. You'd arrest the guy hiring that at a hotel or at a casino. That's how you. That's how you get rid of this. But that they're not delivering that service. And Donald Trump already said he's not going to go after. You can't. Well, you don't want to upset a business and industry. So they're not going to go after the people working on farms. They're not Going to go after the people working in hotels. They're not going to go out. Isn't that interesting?

[Kurt]

Well, they didn't want to upset the child trafficking ring that Epstein ran either, if you recall.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there is business, there is no mass. And by the way, the government asked those people to come in. They were flying immigrants into the United States on airplane. We covered that. So it seems awfully horrible to do that to these people who the government asked to come in.

[Kurt]

So why don't punish the people part of bringing them in. I don't get these NGOs and shit that bust them in. There's nobody going to jail.

[Jimmy Dore]

So it's. So this thing was supposed to warn neighbors that federal agents are near schools, near grocery stores and other communities locations so they can take steps to protect themselves. So how hard is it to see these ICE agents coming, though? Am I, am I right? You have to pretty fat. You have to be asleep to not notice them. They're the fat guys dressed up like they're in Iraq and they are the furries for the military. But the Trump administration has claimed that its agents, nearly all of whom wear face coverings, don't wear badges, and at times drive vehicles without license plates. They're the ones under attack.

[Kurt]

How do they find them?

[Jimmy Dore]

Today, following outreach from the Department of Justice, Facebook removed a large group page that was being used to dox and target ICE agents in Chicago. I don't think that was happening. They were not doxxing anybody.

[Kurt]

They were telling who they were or where they were. Oh, their location is doxing. Is that's what she's saying?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, I think that, think that's what she means. That's not what I consider what doxxing is. The wave of violence against ICE has been driven by online apps and social media campaigns designed to put ICE officers at risk just for doing their jobs. The Department of Justice will continue engaging tech companies to eliminate platforms where radicals can incite violence against federal law enforcement. Everybody from Joe Rogan to Andrew Schultz to Theo Vaughn, everybody is saying this is not what they voted for. What Trump is doing, he's exploding the, the deficit, exploding the Pentagon budget. He's bombing Iran, bombing Yemen, funding a genocide, funding the Ukraine war, and now he's trying to overthrow Venezuela. And the way they're enforcing the immigration law, nobody wants, nobody's for the way they're doing. There's, I mean, the people. I'm talking about Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn, Andrews, those types of people, they're all against the way he's doing? They're doing it.

[Kurt]

What voters wanted any of that who weren't mega Zionist donors or some other piece of shit donor?

[Jimmy Dore]

None.

[Kurt]

There's no normal people that would vote for that.

[Jimmy Dore]

The suspension came two days after far right political activists and Trump ally Laura Loomer posted on X about the group claiming ICE tracking apps and ICE tracking accounts are getting people killed. Who? Who was killed? Nobody. Absolutely nobody. Because you would know it and you'd know the ICE agent's name. You'd think other big tech executives would use this as an opportunity to be in compliance and to support President Trump's immigration policies. But they aren't, says Laura Loomer. She accused Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg of leftist subversion of Trump and his policies and suggested that he should be contacted by the Department of Justice.

[Kurt]

Why haven't you already? He's a pussy that'll knuckle under in two seconds. Why haven't they?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Its administrator posted screenshots of messages from Meta that said the group was suspended because it didn't follow our community standards. The account had not been previously restricted or flagged. Meta spokesperson Frances Brennan said the group was removed for violating our policies against coordinated harm. Brennan pointed to the social media platforms coordinating harm and promoting crime policy, which bans outing the undercover status of law enforcement, military or security personnel. If the content contains the agent's name, face or badge and any of the following the agent's law enforcement organization, the agent's law enforcement operation or explicit mentions of their undercover status wearing a bandit.

[Kurt]

Handkerchief on your face, I don't consider that undercover. I got to be honest with you, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

How dare they disgrace these ICE officers who some, some of them have been serving for over two weeks.

[Kurt]

I want to know if they're all legal status working in these new ICE positions because I will bet you anything a few of them are not here legally. How much you want to bet?

[Jimmy Dore]

How much you want to bet? Mehta updated that policy in December 2023 as the presidential campaign got underway. It previously only banned information about undercover law enforcement's operations that contains an agent's full name or other explicit identification or photos that showed agents faces and explicitly mentioned that they were undercover. Asked to confirm that, the Justice Department requested the page be taken down, Brennan declined to comment. Isn't that something? He also wouldn't say if Meta planned to go after several other Facebook groups with similar content. Brennan was a 2020 Trump campaign adviser whom Mehta hired in January after Trump's election to a second term. The feds have cited a 1,000% increase in attacks against US immigration and custom Enforcement officers, but there have been few examples provided by the federal agents being seriously hurt in the Chicago area.

[Kurt]

Who are these fallen heroes? Do we get to know their name or are they still anonymous?

[Jimmy Dore]

Just like Trump doesn't give you any evidence that the boats he's bombing off the coast of Venezuela are drug runners.

[Kurt]

Zero Evidence is really a lot of fun, isn't it?

[Jimmy Dore]

The Department of Homeland Security reported that one ICE officer was seriously injured during a traffic stop in suburban Franklin park that ended with the officer fatally shooting a 38 year old father, Silvero Villegas Gonzalez. Well, it sounds like that the cop was okay, he killed the other guy. But the Sun Times later obtained body camera footage from local police that showed the officer said his injuries were nothing major. Another immigration agent hurt his leg chasing a protester outside the west suburban Broadview immigration facility. Loomer, the far right activist, has also taken credit for prompting Apple and Google to remove two popular ICE citing apps, ICE Block and Red Dot. We are incredibly disappointed by Apple's actions, ice Block said in a statement. Capitulating to an authoritarian regime is never the right move. Apple has claimed they receive information from law enforcement and ICE Block serve to harm law enforcement officers. This is patently false. Look how long it took this group to be disappointed in Apple, by the way. The rest of us got there a long time ago simply using their products. But ICE Block is no different from crowdsourcing speed traps which every notable mapping application, including Apple's own Maps app, implements as part of its court services. So I use Waze. Waze always tells you where the cops are on the road. So does Apple. Apple's Maps Inc. App shows you where the cops are. So this is nothing new. This is protected speech under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. That's what this is. Red Dot also said also claims that its app harms law enforcement are objectively untrue. Ed Yokna, a spokesperson for the ACLU in Illinois, said it's troubling to see high ranking government officials boast of blocking social media pages that seek to instill a modicum of accountability for the actions of federal agents. Facebook and other platforms have come under attack by Trump and right wing circles in the last decade with accusations that their policies favor Democrats and left leaning politics. By moderating hate speech and misinformation, Zuckerberg has tried repairing Meta's relationship with Trump and conservatives. He wrote in a letter to the U.S. house Judiciary Committee last year that former President Biden's administration repeatedly pressured our teams for months to censor certain COVID 19 content. And my content was some of that that they've. That they censored. I believe the government pressure was wrong and I regret that we were not more outspoken about it. He said that in August of 2024. Zuckerberg said that I feel strongly that we should not compromise our content standards due to pressure from any administration in either direction. And we're ready to push back if something like this happens again. Oh, really?

[Kurt]

Oh, by the way, I looked up which ICE agents have died in the line of duty. That this. According to the US Immigration cousin enforcement themselves, the following age has been killed in the line of duty, including from work related illnesses. There's nobody since October 19, 2024. So there's been zero according to their records.

[Jimmy Dore]

According to them, zero. So Celeste, General strike says same censorship regime as the old boss done by the new boss. That's exactly what we were saying. That's damn right.

[Kurt]

By the way, I don't hate ice, but I do hate the shitty job that they're doing on every level in the new administration. It's like a. I'm not against laws being enforced. Why would you have masked men undercover? What bullshit. It's just insane.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Billy Binion retweets and he says, what an amazing admission. Republicans sued Biden and went to the Supreme Court for pressuring social media companies to censor content. This is exactly that. So many people only care about the First Amendment when they aren't in power, but when they're in power. Now Trump is doing the exact same thing. Pam Bondi is doing the exact same thing that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris did. They're suppressed. They're violating the First Amendment. So by the way, this guy is a. A reporter. Where's the reporter at? This guy is a reporter from Reason. He says ICE agents are public servants funded by the taxpayer. Posting where their raids are is perfectly legal, even if you understandably find it distasteful. The First Amendment does not only apply to content that makes you feel good. That's the point. Censoring Covid content is different than censoring where ICE raids are really what speech is good versus bad? Is this in the eye of who is what speech is Good versus bad is in the eye of who is evaluating, which is why we have the First Amendment. If you don't believe in protecting gross expression, then you don't believe in the First Amendment and they don't. So again, so just like Trump came out and got rid of DEI for gays and Hispanics, blacks and Arabs. He instituted DEI for Jews. There's a whole video up on my channel right now all about that, how he's forcing them to do DEI D legit DCI for Jews on college campuses or you don't get federal money.

[Kurt]

Finally.

[Jimmy Dore]

And now they're censoring people in a violation of the First Amendment, and they're pressuring social media to go along with it. Just like they screamed about when they weren't in power when Joe Biden was doing it. So meet the new boss, same as the old boss. No matter who you vote for, you get John McCain. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week, and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy dork.com, clicking on join premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business, and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support.

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Guess what? New development in the Venezuela Trump administration authorizes covert CIA action in Venezuela. So now the c. The CIA, you know, they're the good guys, always. So he's doing what every president has done. He's overthrowing countries so we could steal their natural resources and install a puppet. He's doing what they all do. Donald Trump, the peace president, already bombed Yemen, already bombed Iran, already still funding Ukraine, still funding a genocide in. In Israel. Gaza. Turns. Turns. Turns the other way. Every time Israel commits war crimes. This development comes as the US Military is drawing up options for President Trump to consider including possible strikes inside Venezuela. So that's the CIA. You know what they do they go in, they find a group of people, they arm them, they give them money, and they tell them, go overthrow the government. That's what CIA does that, you know.

[Kurt]

Like, yeah, all the groups here, all the stupid groups here. You don't think the CIA was behind almost all of them.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Kurt]

Or if they weren't, they infiltrated them and took them over because they did. Remember Patty Hearst and the liberation?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. And as if this hasn't already been happening. Right. I mean, nothing ruins a secret operation like officially authorizing it. The Trump administration has secretly authorized the CIA to conduct covert action in Venezuela. The authority. The authorization is the latest step in the Trump administration's. And by the way, let's say it says here, stepping up his campaign against Nicolas Maduro, the country's authoritarian leader. Well, let's say he is an authoritarian. Let's just say for the sake of argument, what business is it of ours how Venezuela governs themselves? It isn't our business. And we don't give a shit about authoritarian rulers. We're in bed with 90% of them across the world. We're in bed with Saudi Arabia, for f sake.

[Kurt]

We're friends with the uk.

[Jimmy Dore]

We're friends with the uk. Or locking up people for social media posts.

[Kurt]

Authoritarian. We forced an experimental gene therapy on people.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. We forced an American. That's right.

[Kurt]

What a fucking joke.

[Jimmy Dore]

American officials have been clear privately that the end goal is to drive Maduro from power. That's what this is all about. The new authority would allow the CIA to carry out lethal operations in Venezuela and conduct a range of operations in the Caribbean. So it's imperialism again. It's John McCain again. The agency would be able to take covert action against Maduro or his government, either unilaterally or in conjunction with the larger military operation. I think it's funny that they have to pretend that Trump has to authorize this as if they haven't already been doing exactly this.

[Kurt]

Yeah. What, like.

[Jimmy Dore]

So this authorization will finally allow the CIA to do what they've already been doing for years.

[Kurt]

It just means they can pin it on Trump. You know, here's what presidential authorization's worth. Your name is the one that if it goes wrong, I guess it could fall on you.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt]

Because they just are going to do what they're going to do.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. It is not known, Kurt, whether the CIA is planning any operations in Venezuela or whether or if the authorities are meant as a contingency. No, they're already doing it.

[Kurt]

Before you even had this Article. I knew they were going to do that. They've been doing it for how long now?

[Jimmy Dore]

For 20 years.

[Kurt]

They've been doing job guys, by the way.

[Jimmy Dore]

They've been doing it for 25 years at least that I know of.

[Kurt]

It works so well that Maduro keeps getting reelected.

[Jimmy Dore]

But this development comes as the US military is planning its own possible escalation, drawing up options for President Trump to consider, including strikes inside Venezuela. So we're just going to go and attack another country that's not attacking us, that poses no threat to us. We're just going to go and do it and install a puppet and steal their natural resources, by the way, impoverishing their whole country.

[Kurt]

Well, it's the only way we could win because we haven't won a war in 80 years, as you know. But sometimes the CIA can hop on the bandwagon of dissatisfied citizens and push like.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. So There are currently 10,000 US troops there, most of them at bases in Puerto Rico, but also a contingent of marines on amphibious assault ships.

[Kurt]

Oh, I would never play Saudi Arabia because they're bad. I would never do Riyadh comedy Festival because they have blood money. But here in America where I live, I can continue to do shows. Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

In all the navy has eight surface warships and a submarine in the Caribbean. The new authorities, known in intelligence jargon as a presidential finding, were described by multiple U.S. officials who spoke on the contingency of anonymity and blah, blah, blah. Who gives a. Mr. Trump ordered an end to diplomatic talks with the Maduro government this month as he grew frustrated with the Venezuelans leader's failure to accede to US demands to give up power. Volunteer. So those, those aren't negotiate. Hey, you guys, you. You either give up your country over to us or we're going to kill you. I'm giving first my negotiation. I'll give you. I'll give you my offer now, Senator. Nothing.

[Kurt]

You're not even doing what I said. I'm frustrated. Quit your job as the duly elected president of people who probably like you even more because of my shitty plans that don't work out. They probably are more on your side than they would have been. And I'm frustrated.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm frustrated. The CIA has long had authority to work with governments in Latin America on security matters and intelligence sharing. That has allowed the agency to work with Mexican officials to target drug cartels. But those, I mean the ones that they're running, that the CIA are running those drug cartels but they're authorized to.

[Kurt]

Run their own drug cartels.

[Jimmy Dore]

But those authorizations do not allow the agency to carry out direct lethal operations. The Trump administration strategy on Venezuela, developed by Secretary of State Narco Rubio, with help from John Radcliffe, the CIA director, aims to oust Mr. Maduro from power. Mr. Ratcliffe has said little about what his agency is doing in Venezuela, but he has promised that the CIA under his leadership would become more aggressive.

[Kurt]

Oh, that was their big problem, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

And it's about time. It's about time the CIA got aggressive. We don't need no secret agents. We need in your face operations like frat boys on a Saturday night, throwing haymakers when they aren't throwing up.

[Kurt]

Hey, let's start doing MK Ultra again, openly instead of secretly.

[Jimmy Dore]

During the confirmation hearing, Mr. Radcliffe, the head of the CIA, said he would make the CIA less adverse to risk and more willing to conduct covert action when ordered by the President. Going places no one else can go and doing things no one else can.

[Kurt]

Do because they're illegal.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. The United states has offered 50 million for information leading to Maduro's arrest and conviction on US Drug trafficking charges. Don't they already have the infer? So you guys don't have any evidence. You need more. And you're going to overthrow his government anyway without any of the. You don't have any evidence or information, but you're going to overthrow his government and murder and slaughter fishing boats?

[Kurt]

Well, alleged drug dealers, yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Mr. Rubio, who also serves as Trump's national security Advisor, is called Mr. Maduro. Illegitimate, is he? And the Trump administration describes him as a narco terrorist. Mr. Maduro blocked the government that was democratically elected last year from taking power. This is the. This is the New York Times, by the way. They're on board with what Trump is doing. Do you see that? They're on board. So when Trump is doing imperialism and overthrowing other countries for bullshit reasons, the mainstream press is all for him. Just like they said when Trump finally bombed Syria. They said, oh, Trump became president tonight on cnn.

[Kurt]

Remember that Freed Zakaria Wilmore show with him?

[Jimmy Dore]

The administration has asserted. But the Trump administration's accusations that he's profited from narcotics trade and his country is a major producer of drugs for the United States has been debated. You know why? Because it's not true. The administration has asserted in legal filings that Mr. Maduro controls a criminal gang trend, but an assessment by US intelligence agencies contradicts him.

[Kurt]

Hey, those are. That's our gang we made.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. While the US Military operations like the strikes against boats purportedly carrying drugs from Venezuela territory are generally made public. CIA covert actions are typically kept secret. Some, however, like the CIA operation in which Navy SEALS killed Osama bin Laden in 2011, are quickly made public.

[Kurt]

Hey, what a lie.

[Jimmy Dore]

What number SEAL team are we up to now? It's hard to keep track.

[Kurt]

666.

[Jimmy Dore]

The agency has been stepping up its work on counter narcotics for years.

[Kurt]

Don't like the competition. And that's why the problem is being solved so well. Because of how they've stepped up their work.

[Jimmy Dore]

Because how they stopped. Yeah. Gina Haspel, Mr. Trump's second CIA director during his first administration, devoted more resources to drug hunting in Mexico and Latin America. Oh, really? Under William J. Burns, the Biden administration's director of the CIA, began flying drones over Mexico hunting for fentanyl labs. The COVID finding is in some ways a natural evolution of those anti drug. If you think the CIA is fighting drugs, I've got a vaccine I'd like to sell you.

[Kurt]

Everyone's been under mass surveillance for how many years now?

[Jimmy Dore]

Mass surveillance at least since 9, 11.

[Kurt]

But somehow this fentanyl, this darn fentanyl.

[Jimmy Dore]

Just keeps getting in.

[Kurt]

We got all these drones and satellites and stuff and they've spot. And by the way, the guy has to live in Russia now because. And they've gone back to spying on everybody a thousand times over. But somehow this all got through because the CIA wasn't taking enough risks.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. So. But the CIA. But here's what the New York Times says. The CIA's history of COVID action in the Latin America and the Caribbean is mixed at best. Oh, really? It's mixed?

[Kurt]

There's some wins, but also some not so good things. Jimmy. Oh my God.

[Jimmy Dore]

In 1954, the agency orchestrated a coup that overthrew President Jacobo Arbanez of Guatemala, ushering in decades of instability with which is exactly what the CIA wants. The CIA backed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba in 1961 ended in a disaster, and the Agency repeatedly tried to assassinate Fidel Castro like 160 times. That same year, however, the CIA supplied weapons to dissidents who assassinated Rafael Leonidas Trulio Molina, the authoritarian leader of the Dominican Republic.

[Kurt]

Wait, don't. Authoritarian? I don't know what the hell that's supposed to mean.

[Jimmy Dore]

What is that supposed to mean? When you're, when you're assassinating government leaders, what do you call that?

[Kurt]

I mean, when you keep calling about the post World War II rules based order, that sounds very authoritarian.

[Jimmy Dore]

The Agency also had its hands in the 64 coup in Brazil, the death of Che Guevara and other machinations In Bolivia, a 1973 coup in Chile and the Contra fight against the leftist Sandinista government of Nicaragua in the 1980s. And the real reason they killed Che Guevara is to go for the real money by taking over the extremely lucrative Che Guevara T shirt business.

[Kurt]

Do you know what authoritarianism means, by the way?

[Jimmy Dore]

What does it mean?

[Kurt]

Use a strong central power to preserve the political status.

[Jimmy Dore]

Ah. And so I just want to show you. This map shows the US Sponsored regime changes and military invasions in Latin America since World War II. It's everywhere.

[Kurt]

It's mixed at best.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's everywhere. Grenada, Venezuela, Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay, Argentina, Chile, Bolivia, Peru, Panama, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala, Cuba, Haiti, Dominican Republic.

[Kurt]

And all the problems now they're complaining about, I just would like to point out, happened after this delightful map of results.

[Jimmy Dore]

This is the good results. So every place except 1, 2, 3, 4 places in Latin and South America.

[Kurt]

And by the way, I bet we did them too.

[Jimmy Dore]

I bet we did the whole map.

[Kurt]

If intervention was so good, why does it suck now?

[Jimmy Dore]

Let's remember what Tulsi Gabbard said. Tulsi Gabbard said the United States needs to stay out of Venezuela, let the Venezuelan people determine their future. We don't want other countries to choose our leaders, so we have to stop trying to choose theirs. She said that in 2019. That was before she was working for Trump.

[Kurt]

I can't wait for the kicker of. Well, that's.

[Jimmy Dore]

But now she's all on board for it. Now she's all on. She was always against regime change, wars. She was against Trump doing this when in his first term. And now she's part of his cabinet now. She's all for it.

[Kurt]

Yeah. What a bunch of heroes all going along with the program.

[Jimmy Dore]

Here's Tulsi. Here's Tulsi Gabbard from 2019. You want to hear? This is from 2019.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

I am a soldier in the Army National Guard. I've served now for nearly 15 years, served on two Middle east deployments. And I know personally firsthand the cost of war in Congress now for over the last six years, I've served on the Foreign Affairs Committee as well as the Armed Services Committee. And I have seen how self serving, powerful politicians from both parties have continued this foreign policy, regime change, war view where they think that we, the United States, should be acting as the policemen of the world and that we should continue to go around and overthrowing and toppling dictators or countries who are. We don't like, costing us, the American people, trillions of dollars in the process causing more suffering in the countries where we go and wage these wars. And, oh, by the way, undermining our own national security as we are seeing playing out before our eyes in countries like North Korea.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

Where Kim Jong Un has clearly stated that he is holding on to these nuclear weapons as his only deterrent against the United States coming in and waging a regime change war in North Korea. So while, you know, I'm deeply concerned about the fact that this summit yesterday ended without an agreement because we need to see denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, it's not surprising because of this policy, this regime change war policy that again, leaders in both parties in the foreign policy establishment here in Washington have perpetuated over and over and over again.

[James Lee]

What's so interesting is that that worldview, the regime change worldview, I mean, if it worked, at one time I thought it sounded like it made sense, but we've had almost 20 years of it and it demonstrably hasn't worked. And there's really kind of no debate about how badly it's gone. Why would people still support that?

[Tulsi Gabbard]

That's a great question. You know, it's. If you look at the military industry industrial complex that benefits off of these continued regime change wars, you look at those in Washington who invested their entire careers built on continuing to wage these wars, and the most unfortunate thing is they sell them into the guise of humanitarianism to the American people who want to be able to do good things.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, hopefully she's still saying those things inside the administration, inside the White House. I would love to think so.

[Kurt]

I mean, she's not saying them out loud now, is she?

[Jimmy Dore]

So hopefully she's working behind the scenes to stop this garbage. But I don't. It doesn't look like it, and it doesn't look. It looks like she's gonna, she's gonna go along with this administration doing this stuff, even after she said that in 2019.

[Kurt]

Why is there any behind the scenes? If we have a democracy, by the way, why is it. You gotta hope that when they go again, when they go 180 degrees of the thing they just said a year or two ago, you gotta hope that. Well, they gotta play the game and just try it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Really?

[Kurt]

Is that a real country I live in? That's your best case scenario? What a. I mean, this is worthless, dude. This country's worthless.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm just Gonna go back to Tulsi. The United States, they stay out of, should stay out of Venezuela. We don't want other countries choosing our leaders. We. We shouldn't be choosing theirs. I wanted to show people this. This might freak you out. Somebody figured out how to do these Google searches, like, so you can, you can do some kind of search and you can see what people are searching for via Google searches, right? And so, like, if you put in something like Jimmy Dore, it'll show you all the places in the world people are googling. Jimmy Dore, right?

[Kurt]

I remember after the election, Jimmy, everyone was searching. Painless slip and slide methods. Do I need to get a lawyer? Yeah, remember, because we thought Trump was going to do something.

[Jimmy Dore]

So. So I found this. And I was getting ready to put it on the show, and then I saw James Lee also found this. And I like the way he breaks it down. So let's listen to what James Lee, friend of the show, guest host, has to say about these Google searches that are super sus. Watch this.

[James Lee]

Let me ask you a question. When was the first time you heard the name Tyler Robinson?

[Jimmy Dore]

Or by the way, it's always three names, right? Tyler James Robinson. Tyler James Robinson. Lee Lee Harvey Oswald. Why is it always three names? Anyway, let's go. Let's keep going.

[Kurt]

In case there's another guy with that name. So you can disambiguate.

[Jimmy Dore]

Is that it?

[Kurt]

I. I would just guess if I had to guess why, but who knows?

[Jimmy Dore]

I don't know. Luigi Magione was just two names, right? Yeah, there's other syllables. There's only one Luigi, man.

[Kurt]

There's only one.

[Jimmy Dore]

And then you have Jack Ruby. What about the guy who killed rfk? What was his name? Remember, he lives in Pasadena. Three Sir Hands, that's like Sirhan Sirhan. That's like if Chris Christie was named Christy Christie. All right, here we go.

[James Lee]

Or the LOSI Center.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let's, let's start it again.

[James Lee]

Let me ask you a question. When was the first time you heard the name Tyler Robinson or the losi Center? A Mauser.98. For me, and I assume many of you, it was in the days and weeks after Charlie Kirk's tragic assassination on September 10th. And you better believe I've been doing some Googling since then, right? Who is Tyler? What are the access points to the Low C Center rooftop? What kind of damage can a.30 06 caliber bullet do? But what if I told you somebody, maybe multiple somebodies, were searching those terms before September 10th? What do you think about that before.

[Dan Parker]

The shooting. Well, there's Washington D.C. at 11:00am the day before the Charlie Kirk shooting.

[Jimmy Dore]

So this guy figured out the day before he went back and saw from Washington D.C. someone had. Somebody had. Google searched the guy they're claiming did the shooting. But it was the day before the shooting. Why would somebody in Washington D.C. google search a guy, Tyler Robinson, nobody ever heard of, from Washington D.C. wait, just.

[Kurt]

One person or a lot of searches?

[Jimmy Dore]

No, no, just one search.

[Kurt]

Okay.

[Dan Parker]

And you'll see here where the news finally broke that it was in fact Tyler James Robinson. But notice that. That's weird. That's weird.

[James Lee]

That is weird. I gotta say, somebody. Why would anybody be searching the name Tyler James Robinson one day before he allegedly assassinated Charlie Kirk? The data point is just a tiny blip, but it's there. Tyler James Robinson.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[James Lee]

A name that nobody knew of prior to September 12, two days after the shooting when the media told us who Tyler James Robinson was.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[James Lee]

A supposed 22 year old leftist who hated Charlie Kirk. So what does that little Google trend blip mean? Well, I did some research using Google Gemini and they say Google Trends. What it does is normalize search interest to the region you select. The formula is search interest equals total searches in the region and time divided by total searches for the term. So when you look at things from a nationwide context, the total number of searches is enormous. The small handful of searches for Tyler James Robinson on September 9th is so tiny a fraction of all the US searches that it gets rounded down to zero. But then when you zoom in in a DC context, if you filter for the District of Columbia, the total search volume is much, much smaller. So if a few searches for Tyler James Robinson on September 9th originated in the D.C. area, then this handful of searches becomes a significant enough proportion of all DC searches on that day to register a value out of a hundred. Then it says, and this part is critical, quote, the fact that the searches are localized to dc, a city synonymous with the federal government, intelligence, national media and political organizations, strongly shifts the interpretation away from random noise or perpetrator checking his own name from an ambiguous anomaly into a strong potential signal of pre event institutional knowledge or activity. Hmm, that is interesting. And to be clear, I'm not coming to any conclusions myself just yet, but that is how Google is interpreting its own trends data. But hold up for a second, strap in, buckle up, whatever you need to do. Because there is actually so much more weirdness.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there is so much more. Check this out. So this is the. This is the guy who. Who Cracked this originally. This guy, Dan Parker. I don't think. I don't know if his name. Oh, it looks like Baron Coleman. Maybe that's it. Oh, Baron Coleman. Oh, yeah, I think so. And isn't it weird that this is the only Baron we've ever heard of, except for Trump's kid and Baron Von Richten fund from World War I. Anyway, so here's it. Here's another bombshell. Watch this. Turn up the. Turn up the volume on this one. So Israeli and Washington D.C. iP addresses conducted unique Google searches of Timpanagos Regional Hospital. So they took Charlie Kirk not to the closest hospital with the trauma center. They took him to this farther away hospital with a regional. A regional hospital without the trauma stuff that they had at the place that was closer. Isn't that interesting? And so this guy does he finds out people were doing Google searches on that regional hospital before the assassination from Israel and from Washington, D.C. let's watch.

[Dan Parker]

I wonder if anybody googled the hospital where they took Charlie Kirk. Wonder if anybody googled the hospital where they took Charlie Kirk. They took him to Tamponalgos Regional Hospital. That's there in the District. I mean, that's there in Utah. They have, I think, a campus in Orem, Utah, District of Columbia. Here is where again, on September 10th, 11th. Right there you see the searches for Tifonoga's regional hospital. People looking for where they took Charlie Kirk. But you'll see this spike of interest in Timpanoga's regional hospital out of D.C. and then no interest for two solid months before the shooting. But again, keep in mind that July 20th anchor date. Here we have a July 16th, 2025. And then we have a July 3rd, and we have a June 28th. And if you go out 12 months, you'll notice you even had one back then. And then this all kind of goes out. So something's going on here at the Tempanogos Regional Hospital. Search. And then.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right. Why would. Why would anybody from Israel or Washington, D.C. be doing a Google search for that regional hospital? Interesting. But it's. And it's clustered together. Okay, here we go.

[Dan Parker]

The day before the shooting, the day before, somebody in the District of Columbia says, we should really make sure we know what the Tampanogos Regional Hospital is. We really should make sure we know the day before he gets shot. So you had that July 20th anchor date. The time around there, you had a time away back. That could be anything. And then the day before, somebody zeros in, says, we need to. We need to look up Tamponoga's region Hospital, maybe looking up address, maybe they're looking up.

[Jeff Bridges]

Who knows?

[Dan Parker]

Who knows? But again, I just reporting the facts. I'm just reporting the facts. I'm not drawing conclusions tonight. I could give you possible conclusions you could draw, and you could draw your own conclusions, or you could just sit back and look and learn like I did. Because after Tamponalcos Regional Hospital, I thought, I wonder who the. I wonder who the medical examiner is in Utah. I wonder who the medical examiner is in Utah. Because it appears, it appears to me, based on everything I've looked at, that Charlie Kirk may not have had an autopsy, which I find shocking. Shocking, because an autopsy could give you a lot of things, such as what angle did the bullet come in? Where did the bullet go? What type of bullet was it, what damages were done to the organs? Were there any other injuries? And this is going to come up in a minute. Were there any other injuries anywhere else in the body?

[Jimmy Dore]

And, and by the way, so there's speculation that there wasn't an autopsy. Now, I know by law there has to be one. And of course they don't have to release it to the public, but they do give it to the family. So why wouldn't they want people to know about it? Why, why would people be concealing what the autopsy report says if it's going to. So, so people won't be running around having conspiracy theories about what actually happened. Why wouldn't they release that? That's very weird.

[Kurt]

Even JFK didn't. Dr. Baden. Where. That's where we got Dr. Baden from. From the JFK thing.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Well, if it's important to have the same basic corner that stands by the official JFK narrative, one bullet from a worn out 50 year old rifle is what they're saying. Here we go. Let's keep going.

[Dan Parker]

And so I wondered who the medical examiner was there in Utah. And I looked her up. She's a woman named Deidre Amaro. And she was looked up at this time, not in the District of Columbia, but in Israel, which I thought was very strange. June 30th of 2025.

[Jimmy Dore]

So around that same time, when someone from Israel and Washington D.C. were Googling that regional hospital that they took Charlie Kirk to, they were also googling the medical examiner. What? From Israel. What? Okay, here we go.

[Dan Parker]

In Israel.

[Jimmy Dore]

And we know for, we know already know for a fact this is a, this is not a lone gunman because that guy Zinn immediately dropped his pants and said, I killed him. Don't shoot me. So he was there as a distraction. So that guy's got. That guy's got a shady past of being involved in psyops all over the place. And here he was definitely planted as a distraction in the crowd. Immediately he hears a shot, he drops his pants, starts saying, I did it. Don't shoot me. And then they find child pr.

[Kurt]

He didn't find it. They said he had it. No confirmation if they found it. No, yeah, he had it.

[Jimmy Dore]

He said he had it. So now nobody can interview him. And child videos, if you know what I mean. So. So we know it wasn't a lone government. We know it's an actual conspiracy of many people. Conspiracy is just two people. So it's at least two people. Of course it's many more.

[Kurt]

Many of them probably on his security team.

[Jimmy Dore]

And it's probably his security team.

[Kurt]

And so I blame.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's who I blame. So let's watch this.

[Dan Parker]

2025, an IP address originating in Israel. Again, we talked last week about the ways IP addresses coming up somewhere, but Deirdre Amaro, the medical examiner there in Utah, somebody with an IP address originating in Israel decided they were very interested in Deidre Amaro. Unless you think I didn't check the reason I'm not showing you others. Go to the District of Colony, for example, out there. You can even go to Utah and see not there. So if it's not in the District of Columbia and it's not in Utah, this is not a very common search is what I'm pointing out here.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Dan Parker]

Not a very common search at all, but there it was in Israel. So I thought that's weird. That's weird. So I press on. All right, this one gets a little deep. This one. If you have a five point safety harness in your seat, you might want to go ahead and fast it you will have full access to your entire seat. You will only need the front edge for this.

[Jimmy Dore]

Buckle up.

[Dan Parker]

This one took a little research. I was very curious when the Talking Points USA spokesperson came out and said they had spoken to the surgeon but didn't give the surgeon's name. So I thought, who's the surgeon?

[Jimmy Dore]

Who's the surgeon?

[Dan Parker]

This is the surgeon who looked, according to the Talking Points USA spokesperson, who seems like a nice guy, not knocking.

[Jimmy Dore]

Him at all, the guy. The spokesperson for Talking Point USA said it was a miracle bullet and Charlie's bone was like Superman, made of steel. And that's how it stopped that bullet. That's what he said. The. The surgeon said. Didn't name the surgeon. So he's going to find out who that surgeon is.

[Dan Parker]

Only relaying. Do his job. Relaying the message that he was given from the surgeon. Just let the world know about it. Fine with it. This is the guy who said, hey, Charlie's made of steel. This bullet would have normally gone through almost anybody. But Charlie, not. Charlie's made a steel, but not. Get the surgeon's name. And again, remember Deidre Mora. They didn't do an autopsy, I don't think. At least that's the news on the street. They didn't do an autopsy. So I go and I get a list of all the surgeons I can find at the Orem branch of Tifanagos Regional Hospital. And I think, could anyone have looked up into these people? The first aid surgeon I could find was a guy named Stephen Nealman. Stephen Nealman. Remember that date? July 20th. This is July 18th.

[Jimmy Dore]

Same day.

[Dan Parker]

This is July 18th. Stephen Nealman.

[Jimmy Dore]

What?

[Dan Parker]

July 18th, 2025. This was out of our friends on the other side of the planet over there. Very curious about the surgeons in Utah. You'll find out.

[Jimmy Dore]

Isn't that weird?

[Dan Parker]

I go to the next one I could find. Robert Patterson. I found a lot, so I added an MD to it. Robert Patterson, MD July 23 and 24.

[Jimmy Dore]

What may have been the only one.

[Dan Parker]

That was searched twice two days in a row. 7-23-24. Robert Patterson, MD Again, I just find online a list of surgeons at Tempanogos. I eliminate people like the breast reconstruction surgeons, because I didn't think that was necessary to look up. Actually, I might have looked up one of them.

[Jimmy Dore]

So these are all surgeons at this regional hospital that nobody ever heard of. That's the one they inexplicably took Charlie Kirk to. Instead of taking him to the closer place with a trauma center, they take them to this regional hospital. And it turns out people are Google searching this regional hospital from Israel and Washington dc. They're Google searching the medical examiner from Washington DC and Israel. And now we find out they're gonna. They're Google searching the surgeons at that regional hospital from Israel, and they're all on this around the same time cluster.

[Dan Parker]

Okay, Found the general surgeons, the emergency surgeons, all the people who. Who minor surgery. I look them all up. I go to the next one. Lee Trotter. Has anyone looked up Lee Trotter? Again, notice the date. Notice the date. This is right in that July 20th area, that July 20th timeline. Someone with an IP address originating in Israel. Looking up surgeon Lee Trotter near about that same July 20th time period. What, are there other surgeons in the area? Yeah, as a matter of fact, there is. There's a guy, Lee Patterson. So I look up Lee Patterson, notice the date. July 19th.

[Jimmy Dore]

Whoa.

[Dan Parker]

Somebody with an IP address originating in Israel in the week of July 20th. That week on either side of July 20was very interested in all the people who practice surgery at Tippanogos Regional Hospital in Orem, Utah. There was a lot of interest from an IP address originating there. Now, let's just. You know, we talked about the different. Let's say someone's using a, A, a VPN at this point, if I'm the FBI or I'm the Utah State Police, I think this is still a Utah State Police matter. By the way, this didn't cross jurisdictional wise. I don't think. If I'm the Utah State Police, I'm calling Google and saying I need to know the IP addresses that hit this. I need to know if this belongs to VPN is long. This is it the same IP address. They looked up all the different surgeons in my county. Because there's more. By the way, there's a guy named Brian Gill, probably a very talented surgeon. July 22. IP address originating in Israel. What about Richard Rasmussen? I'm sure he's a fine surgeon, a nice guy, probably a pillar of the community. Also searched, July 14. IP address originating in Israel. Richard Rasmussen. Again, if I'm the state police, if I'm the FBI, I have real concerns that my surgeons are being searched within a very narrow time window, like seven to 10 days of each other. And I want to know, is it the same IP address looking at all of them? Because I want to know who the hell is so curious about my surgeons in my local hospital? If I'm the FBI, I might ask, is this related to an assassination where they rushed the body there and there was a surgeon that declared Charlie Kirk a superman and claims he found the bullet and then signed the death certificate. And there was no autopsy and people may have been searching the surgeon.

[Jimmy Dore]

So I. One thing is abundantly clear here, Kurt, is that researching things is anti Semitic.

[Kurt]

Yeah, I thought we're putting into that. When is Larry Ellison's family take over everything we see in here?

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Kurt]

If it's any consolation, Charlie was clearly dead before they took it. He didn't live on a little bit. And if the story is true about a 30 odd six that his magical neck stopped, which it's not, he wouldn't survive for an hour after that or whatever.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, he. No, you watch Him.

[Kurt]

I saw that guy's soul go out of his body on that video.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt]

And I didn't want to see it. It popped up in my algorithm whether I want to see it or not.

[Jimmy Dore]

And they did it publicly because they wanted you to see it, and they wanted everybody to see it. They wanted to send a message. And this is. This is beyond weird and coincidental. And so we know it was more than one person involved, for sure. We know that the FBI and Cash Patel are lying about this, for sure. We know the governor of Utah is lying about this, for sure. Nobody believes. Oh, wait a minute. I'm a 4.0 student. I'm one of the smartest guys around. I just. I just did a public assassination. Let me text my lover and give the step by step account of everything I did, because there's no way the FBI could get these text messages, Right. Of course that didn't happen. Of course that didn't happen. Of course that was manufactured, just like.

[Kurt]

Anyone what looked into the other shooters we've had in the last that are mysterious, such as the guy who shot Trump's ear. Have we done the same search with Ryan Routh? Because I'll bet you you'd probably get real interesting results.

[Jimmy Dore]

I bet you would. Oh, wow. I bet you would. And who. Whatever that guy's name was from Butler, Pennsylvania, that.

[Kurt]

Well, yeah. I can't remember his dumb name. The kid with the hair lip from the BlackRock commercial.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt]

Because we've never heard about anything about him ever again. I guess we just. That chapter is closed in our lives.

[Jimmy Dore]

I just think that's. This is beyond suspicious. This is a clue. That's what this looks like. Now. I'm. I'm not a. I'm not a Cash Patel, head of the FBI. I don't have an FBI jacket that goes when I walk up to the podium. But. But I do have a good BS detector, which has served me very well on this show, which is why I was able to debunk that the Russia tapped into the Democrat DNC server. I knew that was a lie before everybody else. I knew Russiagate was a lie before everybody else. I knew the Syrian gas attacks was a psyop before everybody else. I knew Covid was not before everybody else, but before most other people. So it just takes a good BS detector. And so we know that the FBI is lying. And why don't they know stuff like this? Why aren't they talking about. Why isn't. Why isn't there a newspaper article about this newspaper? I sound Like Bill Maher. It's in the papers. Gotta get the papers. Get the papers. So there you go some more. I wonder if Candace Owen knows about this.

[Kurt]

Owens, Somebody else looks up those other shooters.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, what's that, Kurt?

[Kurt]

I said I hope somebody I don't be watching know. I don't know how to do that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Search, but I don't know how to do that stuff.

[Kurt]

Look up them other shooters and see. Maybe James Lee will see this.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, somebody look up those other shooters. I don't know how. How you do this kind of a search. James Lee knows. James Lee knows how to do it. That's freaky. I don't know where I came across this video. Must have been on Twitter maybe or something. And I can't believe other people aren't talking about it. Well, James Lee is. This is wild.

[Kurt]

It would be such a last minute job that they're like, you're going to find the dirty surgeon to go along with your dumb story on the day before. That's really. They must have really thrown this job together.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, really must. It was really slapped together. It seems like a last minute.

[Kurt]

A lot of these ones seem like they're slapped together, but I don't know.

[Jimmy Dore]

If it was last minute because they were in July. They're looking up the names of the regional hospital and the names of the surgeons, so.

[Kurt]

Oh, maybe there's crossing the I's and dotting the T's.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, so. So he had. And so Candace Owens pointed out how it was weird that they would have two different events in Utah and they weren't scheduled back to back. Like he had to go to one, go somewhere else, then come back. She goes, that's weird. So I'm guessing if they couldn't pull it off here, they were going to do it at another one. Who knows? But this is definitely a planned hit job by an organization.

[Kurt]

Well, all we know for sure right now is his security team is utterly worthless and they should be investigated like forever.

[Jimmy Dore]

And there's definitely something with his microphone. There's no reason why his T shirt would blow up as if there was an explosion underneath his T shirt. It goes like this. His whole T shirt goes like that.

[Kurt]

I mean, we do know.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so somebody put out a video claiming that I said it was a bullet in his microphone. I never said that. So that guy who said that is full of. I didn't say that. I said something happened with this microphone thing. Candace Owens also said it was weird every time she ever did a college thing with Charlie Kirk. They Put their microphones on backstage before they go out. They waited till he went out that day and put it on. So again, another first. Another brand new thing. Just like the FBI head of Utah was fired and there was a brand new FBI director in Utah. There is a brand new judge that's hearing this case. It's a brand new coroner. Everything's brand new. That's what Candace Owens is saying. Too many news.

[Kurt]

Even if it wasn't, it's Utah. What do you think Utah is. Is the most CIA'd up, like, corrupt piece of state there is? Because Mormons are great for fed work. You know that, right?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, I know that.

[Kurt]

Well, they follow orders and they don't do drugs, supposedly, except if you want them to. And the CIA, then they will. They'll smuggle them. They'll do all kinds of evil.

[Jimmy Dore]

And wasn't there. Wasn't there like a CIA program at the college that. That kid who they claimed, Tyler Robinson wasn't the college he did go to in Utah, that there was a CIA program there? Right. I'm not making that up, am I?

[Kurt]

Yeah, they're. They're balls deep in CIA Utah and real corrupt. The Miller that you had on that cop that ended up in California that tried to stitch him up, that's where he comes from, the great state of Utah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Ah. And so why is it. Why aren't they talking about this on Fox News? Why aren't they talking about this on CNN on their round tables where they talk about every stupid thing? Why doesn't Piers Morgan talk about this? This says right up his alley, this. This kind of stuff.

[Kurt]

Well, as the great Ben Shapiro once said, conspiracy theories used to be for the left and not the right. And it's really a real shame that the right is falling prey. So that's why. Because. Time to get back in your pens, everybody.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt]

I'm on the right and I'm on the left and I'm loyal to my guy.

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