Pfizer Exec Confronted Over Cancer & COVID Vaxx!

Summary

Podcast Title: The Jimmy Dore Show
Host: Jimmy Dore
Episode Title: Pfizer Exec Confronted Over Cancer & COVID Vaxx!
Release Date: January 27, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of The Jimmy Dore Show, host Jimmy Dore delves deep into controversial topics surrounding the COVID-19 vaccines, corporate influence in public health, and political accountability. The episode features a critical analysis of a CNBC interview with Scott Gottlieb, former FDA Commissioner and current Pfizer board member, alongside discussions with guest Kurt Weldon, a former U.S. Congressman and firefighter advocate. Dore passionately critiques the intersections of big pharma, government policies, and media narratives, presenting a perspective aimed at uncovering hidden agendas and advocating for public welfare.

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1. Critique of CNBC Interview with Scott Gottlieb

Timestamp: 06:13 - 21:48

Jimmy Dore begins by addressing a CNBC interview featuring Scott Gottlieb, highlighting perceived conflicts of interest due to Gottlieb's position on Pfizer's board post his tenure at the FDA. Dore contends that Gottlieb represents the corporate interests of Pfizer rather than unbiased public health perspectives.

• Conflict of Interest Highlighted:

  • Dore (06:57): "They refer to him as 'former FDA head,' not acknowledging his role with Pfizer. It's misleading."

• Allegations of Vaccine Side Effects:

  • Gottlieb discusses personal and familial health issues, suggesting a possible link to COVID-19 vaccinations.
  • Gottlieb (08:27): "Is everybody sick? Like the level of RSV pneumonia, all this stuff going around... maybe even the COVID vaccine."

• Dore's Counterarguments:

  • Dore dismisses the correlation between vaccines and increased illness rates, attributing spikes to natural immunity and tougher resilience in past generations.
  • Dore (09:28): "It's probably not because the boosters create, wreck your immune system... People were just tougher back then."

• Media Representation Concerns:

  • Dore criticizes CNBC for not presenting balanced viewpoints, suggesting that media outlets like CNBC favor corporate narratives over alternative expert opinions.
  • Dore (10:00): "Scott Gottlieb, corrupt criminal who used to be a corrupt criminal heading the FDA, is now a corrupt criminal at Pfizer and he's on CNBC because Pfizer pays them."

• Discussion on Regulatory Capture:

  • The conversation underscores the concept of regulatory capture, where regulatory agencies are dominated by the industries they are charged with regulating.
  • Dore (27:19): "How is someone supposed to monitor the quality of a corporation unless they are also on the payroll of that corporation?"

2. Joe Biden’s Admission of Complicity in War Crimes

Timestamp: 28:23 - 44:37

The episode transitions to Owen Jones' analysis of a T-Mobile representative's comments on Joe Biden's stance regarding Israel's actions in Gaza. Dore uses this segment to allege that President Biden is complicit in war crimes, particularly pointing to the bombing of civilian areas.

• Biden’s Alleged Complicity:

  • The T-Mobile representative claims Biden admitted complicity in actions resembling war crimes.
  • Representative (29:08): "He carpet-bombed... Killed thousands of innocent people because you had to in order to win a war."

• Historical Comparisons:

  • Comparisons are drawn between Biden's actions and the Allied bombing of Dresden during World War II.
  • Dore (31:14): "Since we committed this war crime in World War II, they are allowed to do this."

• Media Emissary Critique:

  • Dore criticizes media personalities like Wolf Blitzer for seemingly condoning or not adequately questioning such actions.
  • Dore (39:46): "They dropped a bomb on that refugee camp, but we're doing everything we can to make sure those civilians aren't dead. What are you doing?"

• International Criminal Court (ICC) Mention:

  • Owen Jones suggests that Biden's admissions could be grounds for ICC charges.
  • Owen Jones (36:30): "This clip alone would be sufficient to find him guilty of complicity."

• Dore’s Assertions:

  • Dore asserts that Biden's continued financial support for Israel implies knowledge and approval of unlawful actions.
  • Dore (37:01): "He continued to send billions in bombs to do that to these people."

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3. Discussion with Guest Kurt Weldon on Firefighter Preparedness

Timestamp: 46:54 - 57:05

In the latter part of the episode, Jimmy Dore welcomes Kurt Weldon, a former Congressman and firefighter advocate, to discuss the critical state of firefighting preparedness in the United States, particularly in California.

• Firefighter Challenges:

  • Weldon highlights systemic issues affecting firefighters, such as inadequate funding, lack of resources, and bureaucratic mismanagement.
  • Weldon (47:40): "We've not allowed the firefighters, not the bureaucrats, not the political appointees, the firefighters to make decisions and recommendations."

• Policy Critique:

  • Criticism is directed at government policies that prioritize bureaucratic control over practical firefighting needs.
  • Weldon (49:08): "We've got to stop letting politicians and politically appointed hacks determine our needs when it comes to disasters."

• Call for Support and Action:

  • Weldon advocates for a White House conference on firefighters and the establishment of presidential task forces to address their needs.
  • Weldon (55:29): "My goal is to have Donald Trump convene the first ever White House conference on firefighters and EMS and announce seven presidential task forces."

• Personal Experience and Credibility:

  • He shares personal experiences as a firefighter and his commitment to improving the firefighting infrastructure.
  • Weldon (56:58): "I've been out on fires... 50 years ago, I was a deputy chief... I wrote a book about it."

• Dore’s Agreement:

  • Dore concurs with Weldon's assessment, emphasizing that policy failures, not the firefighters themselves, are to blame for inadequate disaster response.
  • Dore (53:46): "They have no clue. If they would talk to the firefighters themselves, not the pencil-pushing bureaucrats appointed by politicians."

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Concluding Remarks

Jimmy Dore wraps up the episode by reiterating his critiques of corporate influence in public health and government mismanagement. He encourages listeners to support the show through premium memberships and continues to advocate for accountability and systemic change in both the healthcare and emergency services sectors.

• Support for the Show:

  • Dore (27:46): "Become a premium member... It's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards."

• Final Thoughts on Media and Power Structures:

  • Dore underscores the necessity of questioning established media narratives and holding powerful institutions accountable.
  • Dore (35:01): "Lawrence O'Donnell is a willing tool of empire and the establishment and the war machine and big pharma and all the rest."

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Notable Quotes

• Jimmy Dore on Regulatory Capture:

  • "How is someone supposed to monitor the quality of a corporation unless they are also on the payroll of that corporation?" [27:19]

• Kurt Weldon on Firefighter Support:

  • "Firefighters are the heart and soul of the community. They're the backbone of America." [56:58]

• Jimmy Dore on Media Bias:

  • "Scott Gottlieb, corrupt criminal... on CNBC because Pfizer pays them." [10:00]

• Owen Jones on Biden's War Crimes Complicity:

  • "This clip alone would be sufficient to find him guilty of complicity." [36:30]

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Conclusion

This episode of The Jimmy Dore Show is a fervent exploration of the perceived intertwining of corporate interests with public health policy and governmental actions. Through incisive critique and passionate discourse, Dore and his guests challenge listeners to scrutinize the narratives presented by mainstream media and advocate for greater transparency and accountability in both the healthcare sector and emergency services.

Transcript

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[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, come see us on tour in Los Angeles, Dallas, Texas, Austin, Baltimore, Atlantic City, Co Host, New York and Providence, Rhode Island. Get your tickets@jimmy dore.com that's where they're the most affordable. Hey, this is Jimmy. Who's this?

[JD Vance]

Hey, this is JD Vance.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, jd, thanks so much for calling.

[JD Vance]

Yeah, I'm Vice President now, so. Yes, the other day I got sworn in as Vice President and Donald Trump was sworn in as President. So he's president again.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, yeah, we know.

[JD Vance]

Right? Okay. Yeah, it's just real weird, but in a good way, you know?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, I would imagine so.

[JD Vance]

And then we went to all those balls and parties and things after that was. That was kind of crazy. I had my wife Usha there with me. Did you see her?

[Jimmy Dore]

I did.

[JD Vance]

She looked pretty good, I thought. You know, I always tell her, you know, Usha, whenever you actually put a little effort into your appearance, you end up mad. She never responds to me when I say that, but I guess she was listening.

[Jimmy Dore]

Did you have fun?

[JD Vance]

Oh, yeah, we had the most fun. I can't tell you how many times we got to stand there awkwardly while President Trump did his little fist pump dance for an uncomfortably long amount of time, which might actually be sort of a metaphor for my next four years.

[Jimmy Dore]

What do you mean?

[JD Vance]

Well, I don't really know what my role as Vice President is going to be. I don't really know that I will have much of a role. One thing I can tell you for sure is that President Trump and I have never even discussed it.

[Jimmy Dore]

What's your job then?

[JD Vance]

I don't know, but probably just to be his hype man, you know, go on the media and talk a bunch of shit about Trump's enemies like I have been doing. Honestly, there's a pretty low bar for being a Trump vp. As long as I can end my turn without a mob trying to lynch me, I'm going to Come out smelling like a rose.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, here's hoping.

[JD Vance]

Yeah, seriously, that would blow. But, yeah, basically, I'm probably just going to talk a bunch of shit.

[Jimmy Dore]

About whom?

[JD Vance]

Well, for example, this preacher lady we had to sit through the other day. She. She should go to jail.

[Jimmy Dore]

Why?

[JD Vance]

If you're a preacher, you're not supposed to say that stuff, especially to a president of a country.

[Jimmy Dore]

Say what stuff? Have mercy on the vulnerable.

[JD Vance]

Okay, you definitely can't say that. Shut up. Look, that is not Christianity. I don't know what it is, but it is not Christian. And I should know. I am an adult convert to Roman Catholicism, which makes me one of the weirdest types of people you can be.

[Jimmy Dore]

I bet.

[JD Vance]

Like, people should keep their eye on me. But, yeah, Episcopal is weird because they can have lady priests. Yeah, there shouldn't be a lady priest in the first place, let alone one that says all this woke stuff. Our administration may have to address that problem.

[Jimmy Dore]

What problem?

[JD Vance]

Lady priest saying woke stuff.

[Jimmy Dore]

Address it how?

[JD Vance]

Make it against the law? Send them to jail?

[Jimmy Dore]

If the president can't do things like that. It's called separation of church and state. And you can't make laws regulating religion. It's in the Constitution, Mr. Vice President.

[JD Vance]

Okay, but if he does an executive order, then it doesn't count. Like an executive order is more higher than the Constitution. It ranks higher.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, it doesn't.

[JD Vance]

I'm pretty sure you're wrong about this.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm pretty sure I'm not.

[JD Vance]

Oh, okay.

[Jimmy Dore]

And I.

[JD Vance]

And I guess that's the reason why some of his executive orders that he signed so far are being challenged by the courts.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, that's exactly why.

[JD Vance]

Oh, shit. For real?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[JD Vance]

Well. Well, whatever. We don't care. We really don't. I mean, I think that's what the next four years are going to be like. The president trying to do a bunch of stuff he's not really allowed to do, and then me going on TV saying that he can do that actually sounds kind of fun.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. It's going to be a ride.

[JD Vance]

Jimmy, what does it mean when a woman spends a lot of time looking out the window and not saying anything, even when people try to talk to her?

[Jimmy Dore]

That could mean a lot of things. It sounds like the woman's depressed.

[JD Vance]

Well, that can't possibly be. She's Indian, and I was promised that Indian women don't have those types of problems. Maybe there's just something really interesting on the lawn that she's looking at, like, you know, like a cat does. I'm gonna make a Note to look later, see if there's something really neat out there. Anyway, I don't like to think about things very much. Never really gets anyone anywhere. In my opinion that's gonna be my guiding light for the next few don't think about things. Well, hey, I don't remember why I called you or who you are, but I look forward to doing this again and keeping you up to date. And I hope your wife found finds something cool in your yard to look at too.

[Jimmy Dore]

Bye now. Goodbye, Mr. Vice President. Thanks for calling Establishment media sucks. August Light and so good luck. Bullshit we can't afford. Watch and see as his jack off the medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on. It's the Jimmy Door show. The COVID vaccine. The CDC is now saying there has been enough cases of people who have had the vaccine, received the vaccine and then suffered a stroke.

[T-Mobile Representative]

The agency will now be investigating any.

[Jimmy Dore]

Potential links between the shots and strokes in some of those patients. Ok, no big deal. We don't know what it is. So Chief Nerd caught this. So the CNBC guy, this guy. So they bring on, he has a lot of questions about why people are being sick now, why cancer on the rise. And he has a suspicion that it might have something to do with the COVID 19 vaccine, which is crazy. So and so who does he bring on to ask about this? The former head of the fda, Scott Gottlieb. And guess where Scott Gottlieb works now. He's on the board of Pfizer. Of course. Again, this is the exact thing RFK Jr. Is trying to fight against. And that's why they have to call him crazy and cuckoo and cnbc, they bring on the guy fright from Pfizer who used to be the head of the fda, by the way, when the news papers talk about Scott Lee, when the news organization they refer to him as former FDA director, they don't go guy who just went from the FDA directly to millions of dollars at the Pfizer board.

[Kurt]

Current Pfizer spokesman. They don't say that.

[Jimmy Dore]

They don't say current Pfizer. They say former FDA head. It's amazing. But anyway, so he's going to ask him. So watch this.

[Scott Gottlieb]

On a serious note, I tweeted this out a friend of mine and if you're watching, I love you diagnosed stage three rescue.

[Jimmy Dore]

And I just want to let you.

[Scott Gottlieb]

Know, on a serious note, I tweeted.

[Jimmy Dore]

So the difference between what this guy does and what I do is his set. That's the difference. He has this big, beautiful set. And I don't. I have a tiny little room in my house. Okay, here we go.

[Kurt]

So he gets great interviews with the great.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, he gets the Great Scott. He gets the Great Scott. Gottlieb on Scott.

[Kurt]

Scottlib this out.

[Scott Gottlieb]

A friend of mine, and if you're watching, I love you. Diagnosed stage three breast cancer yesterday. Close family members of mine have had it. Another buddy of mine just had a stroke. He's non verbal now. Buddy of mine was in a hospital for 3 days. Just got out yesterday or 2 days ago. RSV pneumonia. I know I'm getting older. I know we're all getting older. Is it just me or is everybody sick? Like the level of RSV pneumonia, all this stuff going around, strokes, breast cancer. New York Times did a story on breast cancer spiking. Doctor, can you give us an answer as to why? Because you know where I'm going with this. A lot of people point to Covid and maybe even the COVID vaccine because they Maybe even.

[Jimmy Dore]

Maybe even. Maybe even the COVID vaccine. Well, I think you have your tinfoil hat on a little too tight because. No, there's nothing different from before. Little kids have always just grabbed their chest with a heart attack in classrooms, that's all. We were just tougher. We were just tougher back then, Kurt. And we didn't talk about it, that's all.

[Kurt]

Well, climate change.

[Jimmy Dore]

And it's probably. Probably. Yeah, here we go. Oh, no.

[Scott Gottlieb]

What is it?

[CNBC Contributor]

Yeah, look, we don't know is the answer. We don't cancel.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, we don't know.

[Kurt]

We don't.

[Jimmy Dore]

We don't know.

[Kurt]

Can we speculate?

[Jimmy Dore]

So Scott Gottlieb, corrupt criminal who used to be a corrupt criminal heading the fda, is now a corrupt criminal at Pfizer and he's on cnbc. Why? Because Pfizer gives truckloads of money to CNBC so he can come on and bullshit people. And the truckloads of money are there so they don't bring on someone like me or Dr. Robert Malone or Dr. Pierre Corey to go and to debunk him. So that's why there's no one there to push back on him when he says, we don't know. Let's just watch this again. This is beautiful.

[Scott Gottlieb]

On a serious note, I tweeted a friend of mine and everybody's watching. I love you. Diagnosed stage three breast cancer yesterday. Okay. Close family members, mine have had it. Another buddy of mine just had a stroke. He's non verbal now. Buddy of mine was in a hospital for 3 days. Just got out yesterday or 2 days ago. RSV pneumonia. I know I'm getting older. I know we're all getting older. Is it just me, or is everybody sick? Like the level of RSV pneumonia, all this stuff going around, strokes, breast cancer. New York Times did a story on breast cancer spiking. Doctor, can you give us an answer as to why? Because you know where I'm going with this. A lot of people point to Covid and maybe even the COVID vaccine. Maybe even they don't know. What is it?

[CNBC Contributor]

Yeah, look, we don't know is it.

[Jimmy Dore]

We don't know.

[CNBC Contributor]

Some cancers are going up. You're right. Colon cancer, in particular, the incidence has been going up, particularly just under 30.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yep.

[CNBC Contributor]

Right. So we don't understand that some people believe it's related to changes in the US Diet.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, some people, like what the people who make vaccines think that some people.

[CNBC Contributor]

As far as the infectious disease that's going around, we have had a difficult season with flu with COVID With rsv, those rates look like they're coming down across most of the.

[Jimmy Dore]

See, look how they refer to him. They don't go, scott Gottlieb, corporate whore, working for Pfizer, spokesman. They refer to him as a CNBC contributor. So part of his, I guess, part. I guess he must get a check from cnbc, which. Why? Because that money comes right from Pfizer.

[Kurt]

Oh, does he pay CNBC to make him to pretend he's a good doctor?

[Jimmy Dore]

I guess so.

[Kurt]

He's contributing.

[Jimmy Dore]

Dr. Scott Gottlieb, when was the last time you treated a patient? That'd be my first question.

[Kurt]

Yeah, well, Dr. Jill Biden. When was last time she treated a patient?

[Jimmy Dore]

Here we go.

[CNBC Contributor]

Country right now, with the exception of norovirus, which is still going up, the strain of norovirus that's circulating right now is a new strain. So a lot of people probably don't have baseline immunity to it, and that's why you're seeing so many people getting it and so many people getting sick. That's about the incidence of whatever you think.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's definitely not because the boosters create, wreck your immune system and make you more susceptible to catching viruses. That's not what it is. Just if that's what you're thinking, that's. That's definitely not. Even though the Cleveland Clinic did a study that showed the more boosters you took, the more likely you were to contract the virus, the more likely you were to get sick. That, that, that, that, that, that, that. That's been buried we don't talk about that anymore. That's not real. And it's definitely not the fact that the two people who were in charge, the 30 year long employees of the FDA in charge of the vaccine department at the FDA resigned over the booster program. It's definite. And then they got replaced by who? A couple of, couple of schlubs like him. Couple of corrupt liars like him. They got rid of the. So if you, if you're anybody who stands up and says something like, hey, I don't think the boosters are good and this is bad, you resign. They just replace you with a tool, a willing tool. So that's what happened there. But it's definitely not because of the boosters. It's definitely not because they make your, they wreck your immune system. Like Dr. Robert Malone said they had a good chance of doing on our show in the 2021 when no one else was pushing back against the COVID narrative. He said, he said just because one vaccine is good doesn't mean two is better and three is best. They could wreak havoc on your, they could have deleterious effects on your immune system. It's definitely not that though. I'm just letting you know there's some people out here thinking is it because the boosters are screwing up people's immune system and making, you know. Remember when Mika told Joe Scarborough that wait, after you got your booster, you got Covid, you were sick for months. Remember that? It's got nothing to do with that. That's all just anecdotal evidence. That is, you know, that if you, if you piled it up it would, it would reach the moon. But that's just, and it doesn't matter.

[Kurt]

I hope Scarborough took the, kept taking boosters. I hope he did.

[Jimmy Dore]

He did. I hope. Me too.

[CNBC Contributor]

Coronavirus right now is probably 2x what it was in the last 5 years in prior season. So there is more of that going around right now.

[Scott Gottlieb]

Let me ask a difficult question. Did we hurt ourselves in some ways by avoiding stuff for so long that now these super bugs have been created? Otherwise I'm just not sure what, you.

[Jimmy Dore]

Know, those superbugs are created in a lab in Wuhan, lots of them. Also in Ukraine. I don't know. That's why the pardons go back to 2014. That's when we overthrew the government of Ukraine and then Joe Biden got appointed ahead of Ukraine policy for the United States. And that's when Hunter Biden got his job, his no show job on the energy board. That's when Joe Biden made sure that the government had to fire the investigator investigating Burisma where Hunter Biden worked. You know, all that stuff.

[Kurt]

Remember that Hunter took his dick to an Asian wet market. So to speak.

[Jimmy Dore]

So this guy who I appreciate he at least asked the question. I like his Pat Zajak haircut. Yeah. The guy and I, and I, I'm jealous that, you know, he. His hair dye looks fantastic. I'm jealous of guys who are brunettes anyway.

[Kurt]

Really?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. Anyway, he, he, at least he brings it up. But of course you. He works for a corrupt organization that's corrupted by big pharma money. And he's asking a guy who's on the board of big Pharma Pfizer and they pretend he's not because they say he's a CNBC. They call him Dr. And he's a contributor. They don't go, oh by he's the guy from the, the vaccine maker. They don't say that.

[Kurt]

I wonder who his loved one is that he's asking these tepid, not quite probing questions that quickly are not go nowhere on behalf of.

[Jimmy Dore]

And now. And then he tries, then he tries to find another. Is it because we, you know, we locked down and that created the superbugs or, or could it be that we're actually.

[Kurt]

Family's dead. Do you think there's a connection? I mean, there's not. There's not.

[Jimmy Dore]

Could it be that we're actually creating superbugs in, in laboratories all around the world right now? Could that be it? Or is it that we just. We lock down? I bet it's that we lock down. He doesn't even bring up the fact that we're literally create. The former head of the CDC said that the only way this bird flu is going to be able to jump is if they do gain a function research on it. Remember when he. Remember we played that video of him saying that?

[Kurt]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

And they're doing that research right now.

[Kurt]

You can't go by what they said.

[Jimmy Dore]

And by the way, I hate that they call it research. It's. It's not research. They're doing science fuckery.

[Kurt]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's not research. Nobody wants crimes. Nobody wants anybody doing gain of function research. Barack Obama stopped it and then Fauci went around him. Nobody wants it. So kudos to this guy.

[Kurt]

I'm sure Obama was cool with it though. Yeah, I'm sure. It's not like Obama was like, hey, did you keep doing it going on.

[CNBC Contributor]

Yeah, well, with the flu season RSV and Covid this year, the levels of infection weren't out of proportion to what we've seen from the historical norm going back maybe 10 years. There was a rebound after Covid because people were sequestered and a lot of these pathogens didn't circulate. I think we've worked through that and we're getting back to more of a norm.

[T-Mobile Representative]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Remember how flu just disappeared during COVID Remember that? Yeah.

[Kurt]

And then it existed again.

[Jimmy Dore]

And then it existed again. The flu lockdown. Isn't that funny?

[Kurt]

Yeah. It transitioned again. It changed its identity to flu again.

[Jimmy Dore]

Anna Benani says Gottlieb was FDA commissioner until April 2019. He left to join the board of directors at Pfizer. Pfizer expects to make $100 billion this year. Borla made 24.3 million last year. Pfizer will lose 20 billion in patents by 2026. Vaccines as service equals illness as product. That's what Anna Bonney says.

[Kurt]

Anna bianni only made 24 million. That seems like he must get.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, that's. I think. Plus I'm sure he has stock. And the Biden administration dished out $590 million hours before he left office. And where did it go? It went to Moderna. $590 million. You know what? He gave the fire victim? 700 bucks. How does Moderna secures $500 million funding from US government for bird flu? Jab who? The former FDA director said they were doing gain of function to make it be able to jump to humans.

[Kurt]

Oh, by the way, couldn't you fix it?

[Jimmy Dore]

It's like you create a problem and then you sell the solution. Isn't that interesting? And you get funded to do both of them. Yeah, you get American taxpayer funds to do both of them.

[Kurt]

Jimmy, there was no eggs at the store yesterday at the supermarket over here.

[Jimmy Dore]

Really?

[Kurt]

Which has to be some. Some shortage because the bird flu, you know, this bird flu shit, it's a great racket, man, because you have all aspects. You can just corner people into going where you want.

[Jimmy Dore]

Here is Pfizer board members got. Gottlieb says he has a deep concern about RFK Jr. Leading HHS.

[Kurt]

Yeah, I hope he does.

[Jimmy Dore]

Donald Trump has made all of his picks for the health related team. And joining us right now to talk about all of this and what it means to the sector is Dr. Scott Gottlie. He is the former FDA commissioner. The guy looks like a goomba from the fucking mafia.

[Kurt]

He does. He does.

[Jimmy Dore]

I mean the export. Import. Export business. Mr. Senator.

[Kurt]

I have my deep Concern?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, my respect. My. I have impeccable respect in my own country.

[Kurt]

His reputation is impeccable in his own country.

[Jimmy Dore]

Impeccable. My reputation is impeccable.

[Kurt]

Just here to see his brother. He only speaks Italian.

[Jimmy Dore]

He only speaks Italian. There are buffers. Buffers? Yeah, buffers. I sell olive oil. I'm a retired businessman living on a pension. I don't know why you're coming at me like this.

[Kurt]

I have deep concerns. I hope the deep concerns make his.

[Jimmy Dore]

Dick not work under the last Trump administration. He's also a CNBC contributor. And, Scott, you're still a board member of Pfizer as well.

[CNBC Contributor]

That's right.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. And a board member at Pfizer. Let's jump into this. I like how she kind of says that at the end under her breath. And you're still a board member of isa, right? Correct. Okay.

[Kurt]

So that's the closest thing done Scruples I've seen on this channel ever.

[Jimmy Dore]

At least she mentioned it. Yeah, yeah.

[Kurt]

Like she meant. She goes, okay, I got to mention it. But it's not important.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, it's like.

[Kurt]

But you just dwell on it for a minute, not go buy that.

[Jimmy Dore]

The most important thing you've ever. The most. The biggest money grab you've ever had in your life. You're still doing that. Okay, Just want to make sure. The biggest money grab you ever did.

[Kurt]

I think it gives you a reason to lie right now in this thing we're talking about. You still work for them, right?

[Jimmy Dore]

You still work for them.

[Kurt]

Who wouldn't tell you if there was a problem?

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, why don't we start with the incoming administration's choices? Because there's been a lot of consternation, a lot of people who have said, wait a second. With RFK Jr heading things up. What do you say? Why don't they have a guy, right, From Pfizer headed up? Oh, you know, like you. How you were the head of the fda. Shouldn't we have someone like you headed up? The RFK has never worked for Pfizer. Isn't that weird?

[Kurt]

How would he be qualified?

[Jimmy Dore]

How would he know what to do if he hasn't worked for Pfizer as somebody who served in the last Trump administration?

[CNBC Contributor]

Yeah, look, well, I have deep concerns about Kennedy's stated intentions to roll back core public health protections, particularly as it relates to childhood vaccines. He's brought in a very experienced team, a lot of lawyers from the Children's Defense Fund, which is his anti vax organization.

[Jimmy Dore]

These guys, you don't want to roll back Children vaccines. You don't want to roll back children vaccines. You know how the first vaccine kids get is the hepatitis V vaccine? You know how you get hepatitis beat? You get it from intravenous drug use or unsafe sex. Why would you give that? Why would that be the first one they give to a baby?

[Kurt]

Nobody good answers when I, when I.

[Jimmy Dore]

Tell that to People at Hollywood parties are like, what? That's crazy. Yeah, I know. That's why. But they're never told that by criminals like this. That guy. Unbelievable. Looked like he just walked out of Goodfellas, this guy.

[Kurt]

Well, I like that I'm supposed to hate the children's defense.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt]

A team of lawyers. He's like. Because he brought in these experts for the Children's Defense League, like, boo. Children's defense.

[CNBC Contributor]

They're capable. I think they're deadly serious. They've been very clear about their intentions. And I think sometimes you have to take people at their word. I'm not so sure that people really understand how Kennedy's intentions are going to translate into policy and how serious he is. There was an article recently where one of his.

[Jimmy Dore]

There was an article recently that we funded, by the way, over at fisa. You know, anyway, we paid for this article to be written recently.

[CNBC Contributor]

Confidante Del Bigtree, who's going to be probably brought into hhs, said he didn't get inside the castle to forego his long held beliefs. They're going to follow through on these.

[Kurt]

Are you urging Republican senators to not confirm him?

[CNBC Contributor]

Look, I think that there's skepticism in the Republican caucus more than I think the press is reporting right now. There's going to be ag state senators that are concerned about his impact on food prices. There's going to be principled pro lifers who are concerned about his positions on abortion. There's going to be a number of public health minded senators.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's the new thing now.

[Kurt]

What did you say?

[Jimmy Dore]

That's the new thing now. So now they're pretending. So now they're trying to get right wingers to oppose RFK Jr.

[Kurt]

Principled pro lifers.

[Jimmy Dore]

Because he's not against abortion. That's what they're doing.

[Kurt]

This is really unbelievable. They actually put a little principle because pro lifer is automatically bad in the world.

[Jimmy Dore]

Automatically bad.

[Kurt]

So now there's a new pokemon called a principled pro lifer.

[Jimmy Dore]

A principled pro lifer.

[Kurt]

And that means you're against abortion, but you're for 72 vaccinations.

[CNBC Contributor]

Who have deep concerns about his position on vaccines.

[Kurt]

If you Were talking to a Republican senator. Would you say that the appointment of RFK could cost lives in this country?

[Jimmy Dore]

Could cost lives.

[CNBC Contributor]

I think if RFK follows through on his intentions, and I believe he will, and I believe he can, it will cost lives in this country. I think some in Congress right now who are deeply skeptical think that they can manage this through things like appropriations providers. That's not going to be successful because like I said, RFK can go in there with a stroke of a pen, disband a sip, reconstitute it with like minded people, issue a whole new bunch of recommendations. He can frustrate the ability to take the money from the Vaccine for Children's fund.

[Jimmy Dore]

He could get them to take, you know, like stuff like aluminum out of vaccines. Come on, we need aluminum in vaccines.

[Kurt]

Hey, take people at their word. He said the Children's Defense Fund is coming and we should. So I should take them at their word that they're defending children is what you just said to me.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt]

You didn't tell me why it's bad. Like I'm supposed to already think they're bad?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[Kurt]

Okay. Like, you know, I know the Patriot act is bad, but it's because someone told me why when I first heard of it. It sounded good. So you got to tell me why this is like the Patriot act and not about being a patriot. You know, he hasn't done that. I'm supposed to know.

[CNBC Contributor]

Which would impede a state's abilities to vaccinate children. There's a lot of things that they could do day one very easily, administratively. And I don't think there's a thing Congress can do.

[Kurt]

I hope he's right.

[Jimmy Dore]

A key component of the corporate capture of public health institutions that Kennedy also vows to slam shut is the revolving door. So he wants to end stuff. So this guy is completely corrupt. And he went right from the FDA to the people he was supposedly regulating. That's called cat. Regularly regulatory capture, meaning that he actually works for the people. He's trying. He's supposed to be regulating on behalf of people. So that guy's just. He. What he looks like is he looks like the mafia criminal. Because that's what he is. He's a mafia criminal. And the mafia is big pharma. And he's. And he's their foot soldier. He's, he's, he's the boss of his own family. He's got his own family. Yeah.

[Kurt]

The news, all of that unit party, the Republicans who are concerned you might not shoot kids full of aluminum and shit. That's all the same mafia like the five Families.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Kurt]

They all get joined together.

[Jimmy Dore]

How is someone supposed to monitor the quality of a corporation unless they are also on the payroll of that corporation? Yeah, we're just not thinking.

[Kurt]

You get what you pay for, you know. So that's why you want me to do good jobs, you gotta pay them.

[Jimmy Dore]

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[Jimmy Dore]

CT mobile.com so this guy, Owen Jones saw an interview with Joe Biden and he's convinced that Joe Biden will go down in history as a monster. And Joe Biden kind of admits here that he's complicit in war crimes. Watch this.

[Owen Jones]

Joe Biden has admitted that Israel has committed grave war crimes. Not an exaggeration. This clip I'm going to show you should be treated for what it is. It is a confession, a confession of complicity in genocide. Take a listen.

[T-Mobile Representative]

When I went to Israel immediately after their attack by Hamas eight days later, whatever it was, and I told him we were going to help, I said, but Bibi, I said, you can't be carpet bombing these communities. And he said to me, well, you did it, you carpet bomb. Not as exact words, but you carpet bomb. Berlin, you drafted nuclear weapons. You killed thousands of innocent people because you had to in order to win a war. I said, that's why we came up with the UN New Deals by which, what would we do relative to civilians and military?

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's also when we came up with the Geneva Conventions, so we didn't do that stuff. So I've had people who are proud genociding and slaughtering women and children in Gaza, because I've had people say that. They say that to me. Well, look what we did to Dresden. Look, we dropped a nuclear bomb to end that war they use. Yeah. And then, you know, we then did the Geneva Convention after that. So we don't do shit like that anymore.

[Kurt]

Yeah, Kid Rock, you know, you met Kid Rock is what you're saying.

[Jimmy Dore]

I didn't know he said that.

[Kurt]

Nagasaki, Hiroshima. That's what he blathered on. Rogan, remember that? The Dresden thing?

[Jimmy Dore]

The Dresden thing. Immediately, immediately after October 7th, they were saying Dresden to me, and I'm like, what? So a talking point went out. It went out, and the people who are Zionists, and they just started repeating. So it's okay just to literally put a bullet in the head of a baby, because they've been doing that.

[Kurt]

Well, guess what? Biden's not mentioning that the Geneva Convention could go fuck itself because we passed a rule, a law that a terrorist is not a legal combatant, so you could do whatever you want to them.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Kurt]

So we got rid of the very idea that before they even did. Like, I bet Bibi said that too, but he's not mentioning it, so.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here he's got more to say. So there's Joe Biden admitting that he's complicit. He knows that what they're doing is illegal. He knows that what they're doing is a war crime. He's. That's what he just admitted to. Hey, you can't be carpet bombing women and children. And then he uses. They bring up Dresden and he goes, yeah, but we. We all decided we ain't going to do that after World War II anymore. And to compare Hamas to the fighting power of the Nazi regime in Germany that had invaded country after country and took them over. To compare Hamas to that, it's just. To that fighting machine is just, you know, a joke. It's laughable.

[Kurt]

Wait, and also, was America secretly funding the Nazis the whole time?

[Jimmy Dore]

Exactly.

[Kurt]

I'm sorry, they were. I forgot.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, that's right.

[Kurt]

Rockefeller and the Bushes were doing that pretty much the same thing.

[Kurt Weldon]

So he was comparing 21st century war.

[T-Mobile Representative]

Tactics, battle tactics, with World War II. Well, what he was really doing is he was going after me for saying, you can't indiscriminately bomb civilian areas. Even if the bad guys are there, Even if the bad guy's there. You can't take out 2, 10, 12, 1500 people, innocent people, in order to get the one bad guy.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. So Joe Biden knows what they're doing is wrong. He's telling you right now you can't do that. That even so there's one bad guy, you can't go slaughter 2000 innocent people to get the one bad guy. You can't bomb a neighborhood. Just like that's why bank robbers take hostages. They just don't blow up the bank. That's the whole point of this. And he's telling you right now, even as demented as he is, he knows that's wrong. Even with under the rules of war, he knows that's wrong.

[T-Mobile Representative]

And he made a legitimate argument. His perspective said, look, these are the guys that kill my people. These are the guys that are all over in these tunnels. Nobody had any idea that miles of tunnels are down there. It's amazing what they built. And they're sometimes 200ft under the ground. One way to get to them is take out the places where they were.

[Jimmy Dore]

Or maybe stop funding them, because that's what Benjamin Netanyahu and the Likud Party and the Israeli government was doing.

[Kurt]

Is it amazing that you gave them money to make tunnels? Which they then did.

[Jimmy Dore]

Which they then did.

[Kurt]

Isn't that amazing?

[T-Mobile Representative]

Under which they got to the tunnels. And so that's the first time I had. First time I had the discussion about bombing civilian areas was when I went over after the 9, 11, after the massacre, October 7th. So on that first trip, 10, 11.

[Kurt Weldon]

Days after October 7th, you already raised.

[T-Mobile Representative]

The issues of how to get to a ceasefire. Well, not a ceasefire. How to prevent innocent death.

[Kurt Weldon]

Yes.

[T-Mobile Representative]

And then I pushed really, really hard for more humanitarian aid to go in.

[Owen Jones]

When I studied history at university, they taught us how to approach source material like this from a particular time. And when you read back at the interventions of a political leader, whether it's a speech, an interview, something they wrote publicly or privately, what you're supposed to do is contextualize it. And that is not to simply take their words at face value, but to understand the purpose of your meaning in this case. Why is Joe Biden, the 46th president of the United States, on the very eve of his presidency, ending publicly Declaring that he had told the leader of a foreign state he has armed to the teeth for 15 months to stop carpet bombing civilians at the beginning of what was and has been an incessant genocidal onslaught. And the answer is, Biden thinks this will help his place in history. He knows history is set to return a damning indictment.

[Jimmy Dore]

So why is Biden saying all this garbage now? Well, as he points out, it's because he knows history is not going to look kindly on him. And so he's trying to get out in front of that. And he's got more to say.

[Owen Jones]

This is good of his time in the White House. One poll for PBS News finds that over a third of Americans believe he will go down in the history books as one of the worst presidents ever, compared to 5% who say one of the best. That places him right down at the bottom of the league of US Presidents, just above Richard Nixon and below George W. Bush.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's what's happening here. And Lawrence O'Donnell is a willing tool of empire and the establishment and the war machine and big pharma and all the rest. He's a fake tough guy, and he's just a tool of the oligarchy. That's what, that's why he's got that job at msnbc. If he actually told you the truth about the Ukraine war or the Gaza war or Joe Biden or Covid or the. He would be fired immediately. Like they fired Mehdi Hassan because he, he told all the other lies, but he wouldn't tell the lie about Gaza.

[Kurt]

Why do you call him fake tough guy? Like, was he tough?

[Jimmy Dore]

Because he did a thing where he, he, he, he challenged Donald Trump to a fight. He's like, he goes. He put his chin out. I'm right here. Come on, take a shot at me. Yeah.

[Owen Jones]

He thinks this clip will lead historians to believe that he actually did remonstrate with Benjamin Netanyahu. He did implore him to stop unleashing barbaric, indiscriminate identity against the innocent people of Gaza. Well, this clip is damning. It is, in actual fact, a confession. If Joe Biden ever ends up, or if he did end up at the International Criminal Court, this clip alone would be sufficient to find him guilty of complicity.

[Kurt]

Right.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he thinks that this is his way to smooth over all the crimes he's complicit in. But as Owen Jones points out, no, this is actually proof that he's complicit because he knew from the start what they were doing was against the Geneva Conventions, against the rules of war, all that there were war crimes.

[Kurt]

Why are we pretending like we can't control Israel when we're giving them the money to do this? That's right. There's nothing I could do. He could stop giving him money.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's pointing out that at the beginning, Joe Biden knew that and then continued to fund them. He continued to send billions and billions and billions and billions, in fact $18 billion worth of bombs to do that to these people. And even so, is there any more of this?

[Owen Jones]

I want to war crimes? Because it proves what should be obvious, that Joe Biden knew exactly what the Israeli state was doing from the very beginning. Now, Israel has been the biggest recipient of military aid of any foreign state in the post war era. But since 7 October 2023, that surged to nearly $18 billion worth. Since then, which is obviously a vast sum of money. The US sent thousands, for example, of 2,000 pound bombs to Israel since October 7, despite knowing full well that they were slaughtering civilians en masse. The New York Times, which has had dire, a dire record of reporting this Horror, made clear December 2023 that Israel was dropping 2,000 pound bombs on areas that Israel told civilians to flee to on October.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Israel tells civilians, you better go over here to this refugee camp because we're going to bomb your neighborhood. And then they bomb the refugee camp. And even Wolf Blitzer, who is an APAC tool, I mean, I think he literally worked for aipac, even he was, was shocked to find out that they were doing this, that they would tell people to leave their homes, go to a refugee camp, because we're going to bomb your home. And then they would bomb the refugee camp. Watch it. Here's, here's Wolf Blitzer talking about it. Yes, I can. So that these are pictures of a refugee camp where they drop one of those 2,000 pound bombs. And Wolf Blitzer's like, wait a minute, you knew that you were dropping a bomb on women and children in a refugee camp and you did it anyway? To get one guy. Watch this. We went, we were focused on our.

[Kurt Weldon]

Target, a senior senior commander, Wolf.

[Jimmy Dore]

And we'll be updating you with more data as the hour moves ahead.

[Kurt]

But even if that Hamas commander was.

[Jimmy Dore]

There amidst all those Palestinian refugees who are in that Jabalya refugee camp, Israel still went ahead and dropped a bomb.

[Kurt]

There, attempting to kill this Hamas commander.

[Jimmy Dore]

Knowing that a lot of innocent civilians.

[Kurt]

Men, women and children, presumably would be killed. Is that what I'm hearing?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, yes, that's not what you're hearing, Wolf.

[Kurt Weldon]

We again were focused on this commander again.

[Jimmy Dore]

Who? You'll get more data. Who?

[Kurt Weldon]

This man was killed many, many Israelis. We're doing everything we can.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's a very complicated battle space. There could be infrastructure there, there could.

[Kurt Weldon]

Be tunnels there we're still looking into. And we'll give you more data as the hour moves ahead.

[Kurt]

But you know that there are a.

[Jimmy Dore]

Lot of refugees, a lot of innocent.

[Kurt]

Civilians, men, women and children in that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Refugee camp as well, right? This is the tragedy of war. It's a tragedy of war.

[Kurt Weldon]

As you know, we've been seeing for days.

[Jimmy Dore]

Move south.

[Kurt Weldon]

Civilians are not involved with Hamas. Please move south.

[Kurt]

I'm just trying to get a little bit more information.

[Jimmy Dore]

You knew there were civilians there, you.

[Kurt]

Knew there were refugees, all sorts of.

[Jimmy Dore]

Refugees, but you decided to still drop.

[Kurt]

A bomb on that refugee camp, attempting to kill the Samas commander.

[Jimmy Dore]

By the way, was he killed?

[Kurt Weldon]

No, I can't confirm yet.

[Jimmy Dore]

We know that he was killed.

[Kurt Weldon]

About the civilians there, we're doing everything.

[Jimmy Dore]

We can to minimize. I'll say it again, sadly, they are.

[Kurt Weldon]

Hiding themselves within civilian population.

[Jimmy Dore]

They're doing everything. Yeah, we dropped a 2,000 pound bomb on a refugee camp, but we're doing everything we can to make sure that those civilians aren't dead. Well, what are you doing? Nothing. We're dropping bombs on them. That seems like the opposite of doing everything you can. Yeah, it is. Even Wolf Blitzer, he can't like, wait a minute. So you're just dropping bombs on refugee camps? Yeah, that's what we're doing. Even though, you know there's women and children and refugees there. And you told them to go. Yep, that's. That's how we're doing this one.

[Kurt]

Yeah, I showed it on Rogan. And my favorite part, he goes, well, did you get the guy? I can't confirm that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Can't confirm that.

[Kurt]

We don't know if we got the.

[Jimmy Dore]

We don't know if they got the guy. But did you? Did you. But this is what they did. They. That's. They dropped a bomb there. That's what they did. And so. And here they are. Here's Michael, this guy. One of the craziest developments of this war is that a talking point clearly went out for Israeli officials to bring up the allied firebombing of Dresden. 100% deliberate incineration of civilians populations for no military purpose as a precedent for Israelis tactics in Gaza. So since we committed this war crime In World War II, they are allowed to do this. Now they're allowed to incinerate civilians and drop 2,000 pound bombs on them. And that's Joe Biden admitting that he knew they were doing this and continued to fund it. Which that, as Owen Jones points out, that enough right there would be enough to get him convicted at the icj.

[Kurt]

Jimmy, he has to fund it. He's being blackmailed again. Why didn't he. Why didn't he stop funding it? Because he can't. Anthony Blinken. Because he can't. None of them can. Like this is a simple fix. It's not complicated. You stop giving them money and then they can't do this. That's all you got to do. I'm not going to give you all this money used for this if you don't cut that shit out. It couldn't be more simple. But what's making it complicated? Because they have stuff on these people.

[Jimmy Dore]

Because they have. Because they have blackmail on them.

[Kurt]

Because that great Israel hero, Jeffrey Epstein. That's right, the James Bond of Israel.

[Jimmy Dore]

You don't think the Mossad has a copy of Joe Biden's daughter's diary?

[Kurt]

Oh, they probably got video of it.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. So it doesn't.

[Kurt]

Joe Biden wanted to be a whore, remember? So he probably would gladly do some evil thing. And you videotape him doing it because he was so eager. He publicly said, I wanted to be a hoard of corporations. And they said, not till you're older, kid. That's somebody that would do anything on camera for blackmail material.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. And so this guy says that, he's like, it's okay because you guys did it. You guys did it. I won't. And here's another one. Here's the. Who is this? She's the Israeli ambassador to the United Kingdom. Here, she's going to say it. And going back to your own history, when you fight Nazi Germany, you knew that there are many, many civilians got attacked from your attacks on German cities.

[Kurt Weldon]

Dresden was a symbol. But you attacked Hamburg, you attacked other cities.

[Jimmy Dore]

And altogether it was over 600,000 civilian Germans got killed. And was it worth it in order to defeat Nazi Germany? And the answer was yes. Yes.

[Kurt]

Was it you pig?

[Jimmy Dore]

That's what she says.

[Kurt]

It was just a crime they didn't have to do. As a matter of fact, that turns out, yeah, it was terror. They said it's to demoralize. It was specifically for the purpose of terrorizing the civilians. Yes, in their own words, it was a terror attack.

[Jimmy Dore]

And the same thing with the nuclear Bombs being dropped on Japan. They were ready to, they were ready to surrender. We did that as a warning to.

[Kurt]

Russia, which worked really well because then they had those weapons within the. It worked so well. It scared them away from any ambitions.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt]

Fucking idiots.

[Jimmy Dore]

I've had people, people on panels at the Young Turks who are. They're always pro war. The Young Turks are always pro war. And that was the, that was a big disappointment to me when I was there. They're always there for bombing Libya, they're for bombing Syria, they're for Ukraine war, they're for, they're for every stupid war. They're for Afghanistan, they're for everything.

[Kurt]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

And they finally found a war they weren't for, which is Gaza. Finally woof and Betty boohoo from that other show. But I had people say that the nuclear people on panels, senior members of the Young Turk staff say that no, we had to drop the nuclear bombs on Japan because it saved lives. I'm not kidding.

[Kurt]

Ben Shapiro, even Ben Shapiro has the presence of screwed up mind to go. Well, it arguably saved millions of lives. He at least throws in. Arguably, yeah, because he knows it did not do that. That's why he's throwing that in. He's doing a propaganda argument.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, the first propaganda when they dropped the first nuclear bomb was it would save 50,000 servicemen lives. And then a couple years later they just started saying 100,000 and then they just bumped it up to a million. It's based on nothing. They just say it saved a million lives. They just say it out based on nothing.

[Kurt]

It's the same methodology as our life saving vaccines for the coronavirus.

[Jimmy Dore]

And now we know that Japan was ready to surrender. We have special guest Kurt Weldon, former American politician, congressman, educator, who served as a Republican representing Pennsylvania's 7th district of the United States House of Representatives. From 1987 to 2007, he served as vice chairman of both the Armed Services and Homeland security committees. In 2013, he published Countdown to Terror. In 2013, he published Countdown to Terror, the top secret information that could prevent the next terrorist attack on America and how the CIA has ignored it. Well, that seems like what they normally do. Please welcome to the show Kurt Weldon. Thanks for being on. How are you?

[Kurt Weldon]

I'm fine, Jimmy. It's good to be with you. I think we have something in common. If I'm not mistaken, you're. You have seven brothers, siblings.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, I've said I come from seven boys, five girls.

[Kurt Weldon]

I come from seven boys and two girls. So you beat me by three Girls.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, look at that. Okay.

[Kurt Weldon]

Wow. We both come from blue collar backgrounds, so, yeah. Pleasure to be with you.

[Jimmy Dore]

So I could see your. Were you ever a fireman?

[Kurt Weldon]

Oh, I was a firefighter, fire chief. My whole life, my whole focus on this is not as a politician, it's a firefighter. I organized and represented all the firefighters in the country. I've been to all 50 states. I've been to most of our disasters the day after. And you know, I organized the fire Caucus in the Congress. So my top priority are the firefighters. That's my life.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, well, we're going through it out here in LA right now.

[Kurt Weldon]

Now you are. I'm working with your. In fact, I just did a letter that I sent over to Susie Wiles in the White House with an invitation from the LA City chief, the county chief, the state, the California State Fire Chiefs Association, Jeff Messon, they're all friends of mine. I was the keynote speaker there in LA last year to the California Fire chiefs. There were 600 of them there. And I've been out to California on most of your disasters. So I gave them a list of the top leaders, not the politicians, because I don't want them, I want them focused on the firefighters. And, and they gave actually the list and they gave locations where Trump should visit on Friday. So hopefully that's going to take place this Friday.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, well, fantastic. You know, I live right down the street, Pasadena, for years, right from the fire, almost got my old house in Pasadena. And anyway, so I'm, I didn't know.

[Kurt Weldon]

That I was out there at Simi Valley. My first trip out there was Elton Gallagher was the former mayor of Simi Valley and a politician with me. And I came out and spent three days in Simi Valley when they had the bad forest fires. I've probably been to 10 wildland fires in California, Oregon, Montana, Colorado over the time of my career. And when I was in Congress and so for me this is all reality and this never should have happened. If they would have listened to the firefighters in your state, none of this would have occurred. None of it.

[Jimmy Dore]

What were the what. So now my critique of it was, you know, Gavin Newsom just two years ago was on video talking about the threats of climate change and, and how it's going to add to wildfires. And then his solution was to put more money into green energy, not into firefighting, which seemed completely backwards. And then of course, they, we have a Department of Water and Power chief who makes $750,000 a year, if you can believe it, drained the reservoir above Pacific palisades of 117 million gallons of water. So it was empty during fire season when they knew weeks ahead of time that this was coming. And also there was 100 fire trucks that were in the shop for repair at this time. I mean, it's just one. And then they were cutting the budget. Right. 17.

[Kurt Weldon]

I called for the mayor to resign because she cut the firefighters budget. And that was according to her own fire chief, who came out publicly a week ago and said that. And that's the problem. You know, the firefighters in America are older than the country. They were formed 40 years before the country was formed in 1736. They're the backbone of every community. There are 50,000 stations, 30,000 departments. Most of them are volunteers in your state, most of them are paid. And they're great people, they do great work, but we don't listen to them. The government puts bureaucrats in charge of managing forests and wildlands, and they don't have a clue. And so they allow vegetation to grow that we've not given them the technology. We should have had satellite use for forest fires 20 years ago when I was in Congress. And the military wouldn't allow our satellites to be used because they can detect heat just like we do rocket engines. When a rocket takes off from Iran or from Russia, that same technology is now being used for fires. But there are a ton of technologies that could help the firefighters in California that weren't used. And you point out diversion of water, the priority of these university based think tanks over the practicalities of the people who have to respond to these disasters. Now your people are seeing it. In reality, they're seeing what the result is. And I consider myself a conservationist. When I taught school, I taught environmental education for two years. That's not what we're seeing in California. We're seeing destruction caused by bad policy.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, well, so you're, you'll. It's certainly not a. It's not the fault of the firefighters. It's the fault of the policies coming from the bureaucrats.

[Kurt Weldon]

And that's part of what I've been doing. I put together a platform. I briefed Joe Biden's White House staff two years ago. They ignored me. I briefed it to Trump's people in August. I'm calling for the first ever White House conference on firefighters in EMS to be held in the first quarter of this year. And I want the President to announce seven presidential task forces that will deal with the prime issues that firefighters have in all 50 states. And the fire service is behind all of this and those task forces will allow us to finally give the fire service the ability to handle disasters that we ask them to respond to every day. And I'm not some person sitting in office. I've been out on fires. 50 years ago this week I was a deputy chief of the largest fire in America. Two ships collided in my hometown and killed 28 people. I wrote a book about it called the Quintos disaster. And I testify before Congress on maritime fire safety. So I'm not somebody doing this for politics. It's a part of who I am. But your firefighters, especially in California, have been leaders for our country. And here they are handicapped, bootstrapped, going to hydrants that are empty, water supply systems that aren't there. Those people should be fired, should be held accountable for that. All those homes that were lost never should have occurred. We would have allowed the firefighters, not the bureaucrats, not the political appointees, the firefighters to make decisions and the recommendations. None of this would have happened.

[Jimmy Dore]

I agree with you. It's, you know, they're trying people in the, in the media, the apologies for the Democratic party because California is a one party state or a super majority Democrat with a Democratic governor. And so people are just, I mean from late night talk show host to the, to the local news to the newspaper, they're all making excuses like oh no, it's just normal that the fire hydrants don't have water in them. It's normal that the fire hydrants are broken. You know people, they have no clue.

[Kurt Weldon]

They've never been on the end of an inch and a half or two and a half inch nozzle. They don't want, it's like to go into a burning building that they're, they have no clue about what really happens. If they would talk to the firefighters themselves, not the pencil pushing bureaucrats appointed by politicians. And look, I'm equally critical of both parties. My best friends in Congress, a lot of them were Democrats when I came out to your state, I was with your Democrats when I toured the state for your disasters. But we've not allowed them to take the lead. I'll give you an example, Jimmy. My first term in Congress, I'm in the Longworth building across the street from the Capitol in Washington, seven stories high, the Speaker's office caught on fire. I'm a Republican, he's a Democrat. I went up, I got down on my hands and he's crawled in to make sure all the staff were out. With 7:00 at night, there were a call for my Staffer to bring me the portable fire extinguishers. He brought five. Three of them weren't charged. I said, give me the inch and a half pre connect. He said, there is no hose in the hose station. I came out and people running through the hallways and the cops, the Capitol Hill police officers were yelling, fire, get out. I said to him, where's the alarm system? And the Capitol Hill police officer said to me, congressman, there is no alarm system in the building. Now, this is the capital of the United States. 6 Office buildings housing 535 members of Congress from both parties working in buildings that were fire traps. Fire traps. That's the problem in America. We've got to stop letting politicians and politically appointed hacks determine what our needs are when it comes to disasters. And those people are the men and women risking their lives. And in your case, some of your firefighters lost their homes. Their homes were burning while they're out risking lives and saving other properties. That's outrageous.

[Jimmy Dore]

You would just. You would think that the people. The Pacific Palisades, a very wealthy area, you would think those people would have a lot of political influence and that fire safety would be cheap on their mind. Especially the people in Malibu, Bel Air, Brentwood, you know, by the Getty Center. Those are all they've had fires in the last couple decades. And I know people have moved out of there because they're. So you think those people would be able to have some political muscle and get the city to actually have a plan to fight a fire? And they didn't. Isn't that weird?

[Kurt Weldon]

Jimmy, it's not politically correct to support firefighters. Firefighters aren't the social activists going out in the streets and sipping the champagne and doing the routine with the politicians. Firefighters are in every town. There are 50,000 stations in America, 30,000 departments. They don't just. They don't just fight the fires. You got a car accident, they're going to come and rescue you. They don't ask you first whether you're gay or lesbian or African American or immigrant. They're going to save their ruin, risk their life to save yours. We've not given them the support they need. And you know what? They're not the people that go out and raise the signs up and demand the nonprofits, we've taken them for granted. And the wealthiest people in America, they're the ones that should feel the worst about this. And I'll debate any one of them on national TV about the fire service. I know it. I've been there. I was one. I am one And I know the good people of your state, they're some of the best in the country.

[Jimmy Dore]

So you think we can fix our, our fire preparedness here in, in California?

[Kurt Weldon]

We can, we can fix it nationwide. It's not just in California. We saw it in North Carolina where they had the hurricanes. FEMA was out asking if they had, if they had Trump signs. Don't service that home. I mean that is absolutely outrageous. New York, 9 11. They covered up some of the intelligence that I witnessed as the vice chairman of the Defense Committee to protect the reputations of the deep state that didn't want it known to the American people that they had screwed up. I know it and I'll take a polygraph on what I know they don't want me to tell the story, but I'm going to tell the story. In every major incident in America, the firefighters do their jobs, they risk their lives and they do it because that's a part of who they are. They're not driven by power nor money. The problem is we in America have taken them for granted. We take them for granted except when they go out with the bucket to ask for a donation or when they ask for our help. They're not the people that do the protest. And it's about time. And that was my book. My, my one book was called Awakening and Sleeping Giant. Political Empowerment of America's Heroes. You know, Jimmy, in every poll in our country, firefighters are at 98%. 98% support them. When I gave the keynote speech in L. A last year at your California chiefs conference at the convention center, I told the chiefs, I said, stop sucking up. The politicians. Their popularity in both parties around 40, 45%. The police are around 50 to 55%. Some people want to defund the police. I'm not a part of that group. The military is slightly higher. Firefighters and EMS in every poll, in every state are 98%. You demand what you need and the politicians need to respond. So with that I put together a seven part agenda that I call Fire EM, Fire EMS290 and I gave it to the Trump administration. My goal is to have Donald Trump convene the first ever in history White House conference on firefighters and EMS and at that conference announced seven presidential task forces. I can go through those with you if you want. But they're designed to give a new support basis for the men, men and women who protect America.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Donald Trump will be in Los Angeles on Friday.

[Kurt Weldon]

He will be in Los Angeles on Friday. Your chiefs, your California chiefs. The executive director is a Friend of mine gave me a list of who should be invited. They're all fire leaders. I gave it to the White House and they gave me locations of where Donald Trump should go. They're going to tell Donald Trump what I'm telling you because I know them and they know me. The message is clear. The problem is our politicians don't listen. We take for granted these men and women who serve in our communities every day. They don't get the support they need, and it's in both parties. And my goal when I organized the fire caucus 37 years ago was to get members of Congress to pay attention to these people and be. And we did some good things. We created a grant program that provides grants for fire departments. We created a program called SAFER that provides for departments that can't get drivers to help them. We're helping our volunteers create a new generation of firefighters among our young people, because the bulk of the firefighters in America are volunteers. We have 2 million firefighters in America, 85% of them are volunteers. They don't get paid like me, like I was and my brothers were my father. And we need to support that because they're not just people that fight fires. They're the heart and soul of the community. They're the backbone of America. And so the goal is to give them the support. Donald Trump, I've never met the man, but he's the guy that can make this happen. He's the guy that can turn it around. And the first way to do that is, is to have a White House conference, the first ever, not on some social engineering issue, not on some social, but on the men and women who, for 290 years, 290 years, 40 years older than America, that are protecting our towns. And hopefully he's going to do that in the first quarter of this year. Hopefully he'll announce it in LA this Friday.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, become a premium member. Go to jimmy door comedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be and I'll keep being me.

[Kurt]

Freak out.

[Jimmy Dore]

Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Do not freak out.

[Kurt]

I'm not in it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Do not do nothing. Do not freak out.

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