
According to authorities, the recent New Year’s attacks in New Orleans and Las Vegas are likely the work of ISIS and Al Qaeda, who are determined to initiate attacks on the U.S. homeland and terrorize the American populace. According to...
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Russell Dobular
Establishment media.
Keaton Weiss
Sucks August Light and so good luck.
Russell Dobular
Bullshit we can't afford why he's fomenting.
Whitney Webb
This Watch and see as his jack.
Keaton Weiss
Golf the medium speeds and jumps the.
Russell Dobular
Medium and hits some head off.
Keaton Weiss
Let's look at some of how they get people believing all of this. And you've been speaking about this a lot since the attacks on New Year's Eve. We've seen a lot of things that look like transparent narrative management. They literally sent a reporter into the apartment of an alleged terrorist with chemicals sitting on the table and open Qurans. It was just. It was about as convincing as the CNN video in where she sniffs the.
Whitney Webb
Backpack with sarin gas. Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking of.
Keaton Weiss
Yeah, it was. It was so stage managed, it was absurd it was almost insulting. It felt like they're just not even trying anymore. So now, now, not long before this, you have Sean Ryan, who's former Navy seal, former CIA contractor. Now he's out there in the independent media and he went on Rogan, this is back in September, and he pitched that the open borders, Al Qaeda is coming over the borders. And then he suggests that the Democrats are just doing it because they want the voters, which Joe, to his credit, saw something a little more sinister. So we're just going to look at the end of this clip.
Russell Dobular
I think it's by design, you know, from, from the government, but I don't. I think that they're. Look, I think that the government is, is, is more incompetent than it's ever been before. And I think they have one common goal and that. I think the goal is voting. You know, they want them to vote, but I don't think that they, I don't think they're competent enough to realize the, the death and destruction and the, the other repercussions that we're going to face by keeping that border open, you know, because, because they don't have anybody, you know, that they don't have anybody with any experience. That's, that's, that they don't have any solid intelligence stuff going on. That's, that's telling them like, hey, this is what's going to happen. It's all agenda driven.
Jimmy Dore
Jesus Christ.
Russell Dobular
Does that make sense? Yeah, it does make sense. It does make sense that all they care about is voting is get the.
Keaton Weiss
People in, don't worry about the consequences. But the more insidious conspiracy would be.
Russell Dobular
That they want unrest because it gives.
Keaton Weiss
Them an opportunity to clamp down on rights.
Russell Dobular
I mean, shit, though.
Keaton Weiss
I mean, unrest, I mean, pushes right back on that.
Russell Dobular
They got really good at unrest, you know what I mean? The. In 2020. Right. All through or even before 2020, up to that election. So I don't think they need to import terrorism. Yeah, but it's a different kind of unrest. The kind of unrest that you get.
Keaton Weiss
From people blowing up Target is very different than the kind of unrest you.
Russell Dobular
Get from a legitimate terror attack. Yeah.
Keaton Weiss
All right, so Joe's almost there, which he doesn't seem to like. He really does not want to go in that direction. So you responded to this clip. You said, please remember the history of the last 25 years and recognize this for what it is. Repackaged neocon slop brought to you by former spooks to get you to surrender your remaining Freedoms in the name of fighting the war on domestic terror with consent manufactured via an American Gladio style op using the same fucking CIA boogeyman as 2001-2003. All right? And lo and behold, Ryan winds up being the person who is the recipient of the Tesla Bombers manifesto. And then he does this whole theatrical thing. I'm disappearing for a few days with my family because I don't know what's gonna happen to me after I release this. So. But this person, yeah, he's presenting himself as this independent truth teller. He's on the premier platform, the codes that way, right? As the independent media fighting back against the establishment. Do we actually have an independent media? How much of it is. I assume you believe he's working for the intelligence agency Sean Ryan, as do I. How much of the independent media space do you see as really being part of that op?
Whitney Webb
So, I don't know. I mean, it's hard to say. Obviously, there's people that are arguably the biggest names. I think it's. It's quite obvious that a lot of those people get sought out and bought out or willingly collaborate or have people that, once they get big enough, handle their production and their shows, their guest management, and then, you know, the. Get the person that books the guest could be the spook, you know, and then line them up with all these people that feed them stuff. I mean, it's really hard to know because, you know, I don't have any insight to those people, including Sean Ryan, to know exactly what category he would fit in. But obviously the history of being a former CIA contractor and having active intelligence people on and just taking whatever they say as if it's absolute reality without asking for evidence or documents or anything, sort of treating all of these, you know, currently on the payroll people, you know, as whistleblowers without any sort of whistle, you know, leaks or actual documentation, you know, I think it's, you know, that. I don't think that's necessarily the right way to do that kind of reporting. Personally, obviously I'm being very nice, but I think the clip you showed is different from the one I was commenting on, the one I was commenting on. As we're in that same Rogan interview, he parrots this narrative that a guest on his show gave him named Sarah Adams, who's a former CIA targeting officer. Hard to know if it's really form or though with some of these people. And she was basically echoing this narrative that because of the poorest southern border, which again is not exclusive to the Biden administration. It's not like Trump hermetically sealed the border when he was in office. And you have several decades of this happening, whether it's Republican or Democrat. But, you know, the porous border has allowed Al Qaeda operatives to enter the US and establish sleeper cells because they hate us for our freedom. Guys remember that and how real that was. Yeah. So, you know, that's very frustrating to me because anyone who has really done their research about the national security state or foreign wars should know that Al Qaeda is 100, a creation of intelligence services, particularly the U.S. but I would argue also with the involvement of Israel and probably the United Kingdom as well, the great triumvirate of intelligence. So, you know, I think that particular narrative that's being talked about very much right now, you know, how convenient is that? Because I have been writing for a very long time about the efforts to implement, you know, after the war on terror, going back to the Bush era neocons, the plans on the books were also for a war on domestic terror. And every administration, Trump included, have expanded that infrastructure significantly. Every single administration since 9 11. Okay. And it's very troubling. So if you look at the Biden administration's expansion of it and how they define domestic terrorists, it includes people who oppose government overreach, people who are opposed to any form of capitalism. Right. So it could be crony capitalism, it could be stakeholder capitalism. I mean, it could be any kind of, you know, whatever they choose to define as capitalism. You don't like the current economic system, you can be considered a domestic terrorist, or you don't like a government policy you deem to be overreach. You know, I mean, it's very vaguely defined what gets you on the naughty list. And during the previous Trump administration, basically the infrastructure for this was expanded to include what really ultimately comes down to pre crime, but what they like to call predictive policing. And William Barr, when he was Attorney General, made this official policy of the U.S. government and this was not reversed by Bart Biden. And there's no indication that the incoming Trump administration plans to revert this, even though apparently they hate Bill Barr now. But he's a career CIA mop up man, so I really doubt that he kind of helped clean up the Epstein mess for people Dennity. So, you know, the war on domestic terror, to manufacture consent for that you have to have, huh, Domestic terror, just like the war on foreign terrorists necessitated, you know, some sort of attack to get us to go abroad. You know, that was the push from that. So if you have A variety of domestic attacks, which is why I say a Gladio style thing. You know, I, you know, Operation Gladio. And I'm not an expert on it, so I'm going to give just a very brief overview.
Keaton Weiss
Yeah, just explain that briefly for anyone who doesn't know what that was.
Whitney Webb
Yeah, so this was basically the CIA going to Europe and being like, we don't want the Europe to European governments or the Europeans to elect governments that we deem as sympathetic to the communists, I. E. Russia or whatever. And so we're going to stage terror attacks that we blame on leftist groups or the, you know, groups adjacent to the political parties we don't want to win. And, you know, essentially use that to push Europeans to the right and basically have them be, you know, European governments be democratically elected but manipulated into electing one certain party or one certain side of the political spectrum through terror, essentially, which is obviously very bad. And the intelligence services in Europe actually use these terror attacks as justification for something they never actually did, but they wanted to bring Operation Condor, then ongoing in South America, basically planned and run by the CIA and then executed, of course, by, you know, the governments, the military dictatorships in South America under their control. They wanted to import that to Europe as a way to stop the terror attacks that these intelligence services were themselves creating. Right.
Russell Dobular
So basically saying people are being manipulated into essentially voting for fascism.
Whitney Webb
Right, well, that's what, that's, you know, that was essentially what Operation Gladia was. And it wasn't just the CIA, it was organized crime. It was also the Vatican. And you had these different groups coming together and in contributing to that in specific ways. And you also had the involvement of the, the P2 Lodge in Italy, which is a very interesting rabbit hole for those interested and going that. So basically a weird Freemason shadow government.
Russell Dobular
Yeah, this is, this is.
Keaton Weiss
All right. While we're down the rabbit hole, last time we were here we had Tom O'Neill on who wrote Chaos. And in Chaos, one of his revelations is he was doing research at the UCLA library and he found the MK Ultra files from Gottlieb. From Jolly. Yeah, from Jolly West. And one of the things he found was in their correspondence, I think this was west saying that we have successfully learned how to erase memories. These experiments have been a success. Now the story we always hear about MK Ultra is it was a crazy attempt to create Manchurian candidates that failed. But O'Neill's research strongly suggests it actually succeeded. And they just kept that very quiet that they actually figured out how to do These things. When you look going back to Oswald, Timothy McVeigh, and now this most recently, where you have both of these alleged attackers from the same army base. Do you think there's an MK Ultra element in these attacks?
Whitney Webb
Well, you know, it's hard to say, but I think it's absolutely a certainty that if the CIA said, oh, we ended that program, yeah, that's, that's not true. If it's something that helps entrench, you know, their power and their dominance. And by the CIA, you know, I don't necessarily just mean the agency. I mean, like, where they come from. The CIA is a product really of, of Wall street and, and the corporations that are related. You know, I mean, it was Wall street lawyers.
Keaton Weiss
Yeah, yeah, it was Wall street lawyers and bankers who started the CIA.
Whitney Webb
Yeah. So, I mean, there's a huge overlap between CIA and the private sector. And now arguably the CIA has move the private sector, specifically with the advent of, of Silicon Valley. If you look into how many of those companies were started either like as CIA projects or by people with CIA ties or any, you know, in QTEL or anything like that, you know, it's all pretty telling. But ultimately, what I'm trying to get, you know, as far as, you know, the MK Ultra thing, it's very possible. The, the whole idea that they were trying to use torture and trauma to induce people into certain behaviors seems very likely that that continues. And what better place to do that at, you know, something like a military base, especially one that's known for egregious sexual assaults and I believe even murder of, of, you know, female soldiers and stuff like that that were unsolved. I mean, obviously there's violence happening there and would that be directed. I mean, obviously, if it, if it happened in the past, you know, there's sort of this, what I would call a misconception that the naughty things the CIA did in the 50s and 60s and 70s and then that were outed during the church committee. The idea that, like, oh, that stopped anything. Even though there was no accountability, Congress was totally stonewalled by the CIA. Actually by William Barr, who was a lawyer for the CIA at the time. That was his main job at the time. Funny how these people come pop up time and again and, you know, it doesn't mean they stopped. There's no proof they stopped. Congress just stopped investigating. And obviously it makes sense that there was a lot of pressure applied to our political system to stop that. And, you know, but again, unfortunately, we have to be in the, in the realm of, of Speculation here because it's not like any sort of evidence that would ultimately lead us to conclusively know that will ever be released to the public. So we're sort of stuck speculating. But we know that the lack of accountability of the CIA and the fact that they continue to do terrible things like they did decades ago, that all of this persists and that the CIA definitely does regularly engage in torture, you know, of, of people without due process and whatever. Would they use that to try and control people, you know, and would they do it on our own soldiers? They experiment on US soldiers all the time. People should look into these military, you know, installations in the US that are part of this Defense Innovation Unit and all this, the sort of merging again of Silicon Valley and the military trying to make these transhumanist soldiers and put chips and soldiers brains so they can control drone swarms with their minds. And like all the weird genetic engineering stuff, I mean they're doing all of this to soldiers right now. So why wouldn't they? And that's like admitted. It's not like the mainstream media like reports on it, but if you look for it, it's there, you know, so why wouldn't they, you know, try mind control by different means or even use those same means that allow them to control drone swarms with their brains, use that to manipulate soldiers in a different direction. I mean they're about to be commercialized, the brain chip. So I wouldn't, you know, they covertly use them on people. So now we don't know.
Keaton Weiss
You've spoken a lot about how many people have reversed themselves on civil liberties, on their beliefs about the FBI. I think you've seen that really, really in sharp relief since the election. I did a whole segment about Marc Andreessen doing this whole round of calling.
Whitney Webb
He's Dr. Robotnik without the mustache.
Keaton Weiss
He's talking about everything that restrains him is woke. So you saw this. I actually, I went to the dissident dialogues which was like this idw.com conference in May and it was very eye opening for me because it was basically pairing the anti woke stuff, you know, di and trans with and you know, Uyghur labor might be in your supply chain. So it was this very Jake Sullivan State Department kind of foreign policy paired with ginning up outrage about cultural issues. And we saw this deployed immediately after New Year's Eve. You have end wokeness immediately. This big account in that space, New York City, just a few hours after A jihadist killed 15 in New Orleans. Now this, this rally had been planned in advance, had nothing to do with ISIS or anything like that. But immediately they, they frame it as if this was to celebrate this attack in New Orleans.
Whitney Webb
I mean after 911 they took an old film of Palestinians being handed candy by some like NGO and said that was Palestinian celebrating 9 11. You know this is an old trope.
Keaton Weiss
Right, right. But that, well, what's new about that? Although I guess this isn't really new. You know, Nixon and Agnew presented themselves as fighting against the establishment in some way. So you, so you wrote this, which I think sums it up pretty well and I'd like you to elaborate on it. Some of the same prominent people who rightly have been pointing out that the FBI and CIA are deeply corrupt, which they obviously are, are now saying we should believe those agencies about the motives and identities of those behind the recent attacks and also believe FBI, CIA people that the US is now infiltrated and invested with Al Qaeda operatives poised to bring chaos to the US in 2025. Even more odd, some of these people used to rant for hours about how Al Qaeda and ISIS were creations of the US government, either directly or indirectly. Funny how narrative management works. Al Qaeda is definitely a US creation and fear over current and or future attacks will be used to market a complete techno tyranny takeover. You'll be told the digital id, digital surveillance money and Palantir big data pre crime algos are the only ways to stop the terror attacks. And it will be disturbing to see how many fall for the ruse. Don't give in to the fear and don't consent digital ID and many of these technologies will only stick if you voluntarily comply and adopt them. So that's a pretty terrifying future that you're describing. You're giving, you're giving some prescription for how to avoid it.
Whitney Webb
But yes, I'm not trying to be terrifying, I'm trying to be realistic of the problems that can arise when you give your brain bag over to intelligence linked billionaires and CIA frontmen and where they plan overtly to take us. So you know, arguably there is this effort and we saw it during COVID for all of these quote unquote solutions to be rolled out that had nothing to do with viral infections like you know, and arguably, you know, things like vaccine passports had nothing to do with whether you were, you know, it wasn't really based on public health policy. It was arguably a trial run for digital ID infrastructure which is meant to be applied to health among other things, and then things like the pre crime algorithms of palantir have been in testing for a long time. Predictive policing, specifically mainly in minority dominant communities in New Orleans and Los Angeles. Very biased, very messed up algorithms. But they were also used to distribute, you know, vaccines during the COVID era and decided which communities need the most and then push those vaccines to the same minorities that they have targeted previously through predictive policing and ICE and things like that. Digital IDs, you know, are advancing rapidly, including from people that claim to be against vaccine passports and all this stuff during COVID like Ron DeSantis, for example, you know, Florida is advancing very quickly to the digital driver's license world, the Florida smart ID card and all of this. And so arguably really the only difference is the sales pitch at this point. So, you know, I've argued for, you know, well over a year now that they saw resistance to it the way it was being pitched during the COVID era. And so because ultimately we are governed and ruled by a public private partnership, they move it out of the public sector and more into the private sector, you know, left to right. It's the same type of ping pong. And so ultimately, you know, now the sales pitch is going to be meant to appeal to the demographic that complained the most about that, right leaning Americans, you know, give them a sales pitch that they're more likely to swallow. So that would be, this is the solution to crime, rampant crime. This is the solution to illegal immigration. And what better way to push that even further on over than arguing, you know, having this sort of milieu of all these isis, al Qaeda terror attacks, blame that on the border, and be like, well, we need to, you know, we need to know who everyone is that's coming in or out, which is already a policy Trump campaigned on this cycle. The very precise biometric entry exit tracking system, he called it. And that's, you know, essentially a recipe for digital id, not just for the border, but all ports of entry. And TSA has been moving in this direction for some time and that clear private sector equivalent, you know, in airport security has been there to sort of normalize the whole biometric stuff. And it's really ultimately part of this global plan that's part of Interpol, that every country in the world has basically agreed to the implementation of what Interpol calls the global policing goals, which a lot of people, I would recommend you should read about those. They're rather interesting. And, you know, if they keep pushing this narrative enough about Al Qaeda, for example, we need to go after terror financing. Well, now we need visibility into every dollar spent everywhere in the country. And you can then sell, you know, a digital, cashless, available, programmable, even society. And you know, with pre crime, the ultimate goal of total information awareness, the DARPA program that Palantir repackaged as a private sector thing, the goal of that was to stop terror attacks before it happened. But then they also wanted to apply that to stop pandemics before they happen. There was this multi, multi tier goal, you could argue, and the anthrax attacks right after 9, 11 were all part of this. Actually it was intended with the anthrax attacks to have multiple bio terror events happen after that. But lo and behold, the anthrax was traced back to a US military before they could convince everyone that had actually come from Iraq. And so that operation kind of got folded. But you can see that that was ultimately the plan. And so if this narrative is sort of about Al Qaeda sleeper cells being activated or whatever, is sort of predictive programming for some sort of American gladio thing, which I certainly hope it is not. But if it is, you know, the goal is to have people so scared and so freaked out and feel so insecure that they'll be willing to trade their remaining liberties and freedom for that. And ultimately a lot of these things, particularly digital id, are really the linchpin and leading us into this digital transformation era that has a lot of names that some of them turn people off, like the Great Reset and whatever. But ultimately the goal is to lead people into this fourth industrial revolution which is basically sort of this post human future where AI basically runs everything and the tech overlords rule over us. And they're trying to convince a lot of people right now that they will be benevolent overlords and they're so cool and they're anti woke like you pointed out earlier. It's kind of funny, like Elon Musk basically like pisses off a huge amount of what he has cultivated as his base, you know, Trump's base basically. And then is like, well, I'll just come back and make memes and talk about how I'm going to reach level 80 in the path of Exile video game. And you know, maybe tomorrow I'll tweet about how Disney turned a beloved character into a different race and then they'll be back in my corner again. I mean it's very easy for these people to play play you. And they've been doing it for years, but they have. Yeah.
Keaton Weiss
I don't know how much you've been online the last couple days, but no sooner did they start to lose the love of the peasants. They started really asking questions about these New Year's Eve attacks and how weird a lot of the surrounding incidents, like the reporter walking through the apartment were. And all of a sudden this. And I'm not saying the story is not true, but anyone who really looks into these kinds of things knows about these grooming gangs in England. This is.
Russell Dobular
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Keaton Weiss
There's not a new story.
Russell Dobular
Right.
Keaton Weiss
All of a sudden in the last 24 hours. Oh, my God, this is what we need to be obsessed with right now.
Russell Dobular
I may as well do that. Yeah, right. Nobody's gonna give me for that. Right. That's something. Who's gonna come at me for that?
Whitney Webb
What about the pedo grooming gang that was run by Israel in the U.S. yeah.
Keaton Weiss
You know, they're not mentioning that.
Whitney Webb
No, no, but I mean, so it.
Russell Dobular
Sounds like the upshot here is that they're basically 10 steps ahead of the public and the public has no idea whatsoever. Right. Because the other thing, and this is what always. I mean, I am, I, you know, I mean, you're a wealth of knowledge on this. I'm obviously not, but intuitively, I just could not help but recoil when people said in the run up to the presidential vote, and I didn't vote for any, for either of the major candidates, so I'm not here to advocate for one or the other or really compare them, but the idea that we had to elect Trump to save the country just seemed absurd on its face. Just. It seemed absolutely absurd because of this. Because now you have, you know, intuitively, you could just sense the merger of not only capital with the state, but tech capital with the state. I mean, and you. To go back to what we talked to at the beginning of the interview, you know, a streamlined government, not only is it not necessarily a smaller government, it can very easily become a larger.
Whitney Webb
Government and less efficient if the algorithms don't work.
Russell Dobular
Well, that too, but. But also, like, once that, once that infrastructure is there, let's say the pendulum swings. And someone who wants to greatly expand government power, who says that outright, the tools are all there for them to.
Whitney Webb
To do there. Indeed, indeed.
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Balance on required finance agreement as deal bill credits and if you pay off devices early all right, folks, welcome to the Jimmy Door Show. Keaton Weiss and Russell Dobular filling in for Jimmy the this week. Big news today, the big news of the day. Of course, the world lost a great one today. Justin Trudeau, Canada's prime minister.
Keaton Weiss
Justin, we hardly knew you exactly.
Russell Dobular
It's been only nine years. He announces his resignation from office.
Jimmy Dore
The holidays. I've also had a chance to reflect and have had long talks with my family about our future. Throughout the course of my career, any success I have personally achieved has been because of their support and with their encouragement. So last night over dinner, I told my kids about the decision that I'm sharing with you today, also that my.
Keaton Weiss
Dad is not my dad.
Jimmy Dore
I intend to resign as party leader as prime minister after the party selects its next leader through a robust nationwide competitive process. Last night, I asked the president of the Liberal Party to begin that process. This country deserves a real choice in the next election. And it has become clear to me that if I'm having to fight internal battles, I cannot be the best option in that election.
Russell Dobular
Well, you know, I'll give him. He went away easier than Joe Biden got to give him that, right? That's saying something.
Keaton Weiss
Still mentally intact.
Russell Dobular
Yeah, and he's still mentally intact. Canada's Justin Trudeau says he will resign as party leader. That's right. And Prime Minister NPR reports Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced plans to resign on Monday after loud calls from within his own party to step down, ending weeks of speculation. Trudeau said he will no longer lead his Liberal Party, but will remain in office until a successor is selected. Momentum for a Trudeau exit has built steadily since his deputy Prime Minister Christie of Freeland a close ally who also served as finance minister, resigned in stunning fashion on December 16th. Yes, that foreshadowed this by a few weeks. But Trudeau has been prime minister for nearly a decade after winning office at just 43 years old. But his popularity has plummeted with Canadians who blame Trudeau for higher cost of living and other problems. His tenure has also been hit by a string of crises and missteps, and increasingly his political allies have criticized his policies. Taking a handful of questions from reporter, Trudeau defended his achievements in office, particularly his economic policies, saying he has worked to help Canada's middle class and to ease poverty. He repeatedly cited internal battles as the reason for his resignation, saying Parliament has been paralyzed for months. So Rachel Blevins says another friend of Zelensky points out yes. Who supported escalation of NATO's war against Russia and leaves behind a legacy of increasingly authoritarian policies. No lies detected there. Deep Barrett says resignation of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau should be of no surprise and inconsequential heading into upcoming Canadian parliamentary elections. Already had record low support and approval rating. Poor economy made it worse. Conservative polar very likely. New pm. That's right, Pierre leading in the polls there. Margaret Kimberly points out Justin Trudeau, Canada's blackface prime minister, resigns. He also invited a Nazi to speak to Canada's Parliament. That's right. That's right. Maybe the reason, says Benjamin Rubenstein, disgraced Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is set to resign in shame is because he spent his time talking to genocidal freaks about things that aren't happening instead of doing his job and helping Canadians. There you go. Highlighting that article there from just a couple weeks ago. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks with President of Israel Isaac Herzog. So we'll take a trip down memory lane to pay tribute to Justin Trudeau. Flat out truth says never forget what dictator Trudeau did to the truckers because they were unvaccinated and free. Here's this piece of video.
Jimmy Dore
Are faced with citizens anxiety, we have a choice to make. Do we exploit that anxiety or do we allay it? Because a fair and successful world is a peaceful one, we believe we should confront anxiety with a clear plan to deal with its root causes.
Russell Dobular
You know, it never occurred to me until watching video with his voice and voiceover. He really does sound like an audiobook. He really sounds like a book on tape. Like just listen to his voice. It sounds like a guy who gets paid to record audiobooks.
Jimmy Dore
And we believe we should bring people together around shared purposes because what is the alternative.
Russell Dobular
But the Germans were not being beckoned to Versailles to negotiate, but rather to have their fates determined for them. We will continue this in our next chapter. That's what it sounds like. It sounds like an audiobook. Sounds like a book on tape.
Keaton Weiss
Yeah. He doesn't seem like somebody with the skills to have not lost power seven years ago. Like, it's amazing that he's been in power this long.
Russell Dobular
Well, this is the other thing, man. You know, I remember back in like the, you know, mid 2010s, when he first burst onto the scene, he was a big heartthrob. Like, yeah, yeah. The ladies loved him, the girls loved.
Keaton Weiss
Him, and Obama and these homoerotic tableaus.
Russell Dobular
Yeah. Which, you know, look, I mean, I'll say this, he seems like a fairly handsome guy, but the minute he opens his mouth, I mean, I'm sorry, like, I don't see how, how it goes any further than that.
Jimmy Dore
To exploit anxiety.
Keaton Weiss
I mean, a one night stand, to.
Jimmy Dore
Turn it into fear and blame, to reject others because they look or speak or pray differently than we do every single day. We need to choose hope over fear. Diversity over division.
Russell Dobular
Wow. Diversity over division. In Canada. In Canada, mind you. So, yes, that is quite the juxtaposition there. Rhetoric versus that imagery of the trucker crackdown. CNN contributor Scott Jennings says, God bless those truckers. So as news broke of this, he thought of that very example that we just showed you right there. So let's play this. This is a fairly brief. Thank you.
Keaton Weiss
I think you want to talk about Justin Trudeau.
Russell Dobular
I wanted to talk about Canada.
Keaton Weiss
That's what I'm saying. Well, there's a direct line from those.
Russell Dobular
Truckers to what's happening today. Good riddance.
Whitney Webb
I'm sleeping.
Russell Dobular
It's only Monday. It's my first day back.
Keaton Weiss
This is hard on me, Sarah. Please take it.
Russell Dobular
I'm going to take it from here because guess what I'm going to do?
Whitney Webb
Talk about Canada.
Russell Dobular
Yes, ma'am.
Whitney Webb
We've got some breaking news.
Russell Dobular
Real professional newsroom they got going over there. Glenn Greenwald. Yes. One of my favorite stories of 2024, maybe my favorite, was when Zelensky visited Trudeau and they went to the Canadian Parliament to give a standing ovation to a 98 year old Ukrainian hero, quote unquote, who it turned out was a voluntary Nazi fighter for the Waffen SS in World War II. Yeah. Who could forget this? A standing ovation for Ukrainian veteran of the Second World War, who fought the.
Jimmy Dore
Ukrainian independence against the Russians and continues to support the troops. Today, even at his age of 98.
Russell Dobular
Invited by house Speaker Anthony Roda to witness Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's address to Parliament. Yaroslav Hunka is one of his constituents.
Jimmy Dore
He's a Ukrainian hero, a Canadian hero, and we thank him for all his service.
Russell Dobular
That was the jubilant scene Friday. Now new details have emerged about that war service. MPS applauded. Hunka served in the 1st Galician Division, a voluntary unit commanded by the Nazis. The unit is complicit in the Holocaust. This Jewish human rights campaigner says, there's no defending former soldiers like you swore allegiance to Hitler and you were involved with the massacre of civilians. So it doesn't matter if you try and claim that you were defending against communism, you were still involved with the Nazi war machine. The division's history is murky. Its volunteers united by a desire to take on the Soviet Union, says this academic. For them, the ultimate evil was Moscow occupation. Right. Communism, the ultimate evil, not Nazism. It's common. Common list of priorities, I should say. Common ranking of priorities amongst the Liberals. What did they say? Liberals will choose fascism over socialism every time.
Keaton Weiss
Yep. You want to see how badly Trudeau destroyed that country? When was the last time you heard an American say, if so and so wins the election, I'm moving to Canada? Well, yeah, they don't say that anymore.
Russell Dobular
They don't really say that anymore. That's true. You don't really hear that now. You hear Donald Trump saying he wants to make Canada the 51st state.
Keaton Weiss
Yeah. Now they're like, I wanna. I'll move to Greece, I'll move to Thailand. They don't say, I'll move to Canada.
Russell Dobular
That's true. You don't hear that as an example anymore. And then who could forget? Obviously, Justin Trudeau blames Russian propaganda for Canadian Parliament honoring a Nazi. Yes, yes. Trying to. Trying to spin the excuse machine here.
Jimmy Dore
Obviously, it's extremely upsetting that this happened. The speaker has acknowledged his mistake and has apologized. But this is something that is deeply embarrassing to the Parliament of Canada and by extension, to all Canadians. I think particularly of Jewish MPs and all members of the Jewish community across the country who are celebrating Yom or commemorating Yom Kippur today. I think it's going to be really important that all of us push back against Russian propaganda, Russian disinformation, and continue our steadfast and unequivocal support for Ukraine, as we did last week with announcing further measures to stand with Ukraine in Russia's illegal war against it.
Russell Dobular
You brought a great, great character example there too, as well. So Ryan Knight, who runs the Power to the People account, proud socialist to me, has it exactly right. Justin Trudeau announces he is resigning as Prime Minister of Canada. Liberalism is failing all over the world as the material conditions of the working class decline and reactionary forces on the right gain power. Yes, that's what you're seeing all over the world. And this was something that would have happened here had it not been for the pandemic, which I will say was very convenient. I will just, I will say that it came along at a very convenient.
Keaton Weiss
Time for the unknown origin.
Russell Dobular
Right. Yeah, it came about, it came about at a very convenient time for the liberal class to sort of regain a foothold that they had lost and were going to lose again in a landslide here in the United States had it not been for the pandemic. The Liberals got a second lifeline of sorts with the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and that kind of saved the Democrats ass in the midterms in 2022. But now that we're four years out from COVID and you see, a common, a common trend is that governments in power during those pandemic into post pandemic years are having a hard time maintaining power. Now, parties who presided over that period of time are paying a political price because of how all of that was handled, not just from a public health standpoint, since every country kind of varied in that way. But economically, the shock to the system was just too great for these political parties to withstand. And now they're playing there. They are paying a very heavy price for it. Now, Trudeau's reign was, as we just saw, I mean, a, a tragic comedy of errors and of ridiculousness. But it's the same ridiculousness as the liberal class here, as the Obama years into the Biden years worldwide. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. This, this is a real sea change of a year all over the world. And unfortunately, in my opinion, as someone with left politics, the, the, the populist left has not been able to gain that foothold. It's easier for populist right wing parties to do that because populist right wing parties, as we just went over in very thorough detail with Whitney Webb, do not challenge the consolidation of capital.
Keaton Weiss
No.
Russell Dobular
And they don't face. Right. So they don't face the same resistance. Because Palantir can work with Donald Trump. Right, right.
Keaton Weiss
That can work better with Donald Trump.
Russell Dobular
They can work better with Donald Trump if they strip all the pretense of democracy and.
Keaton Weiss
Right.
Russell Dobular
They don't have to pretend ability and equity and all that shit. Right? They don't have to keep the mask on anymore. And so it's a lot more easily integrated with capitalist power structures than any populist left movement. But as, as Ryan points out here, liberalism just couldn't hold. And this is something, you know, I feel vindicated about. I'm not happy about it, but I do feel vindicated. This is what we have been saying for now, just about a decade since Trudeau took power. I mean, in 2015, we were saying, you are not going to be able to gloss over the cruelties of capitalism with a sort of, I will say benign neoliberalism. Because you can have neoliberalism of the Reagan variety or the Obama right. You're not going to be able to smooth that over for much longer. This is going to implode. Liberalism will implode. And now it has imploded and now we're here. We would have been here four years ago. There's not a doubt in my mind, absent Covid, we would have been here four years ago. That gave them a lifeline. They were not able to seize control of power for long because they are ultimately uninterested in improving the material conditions of working class people. They are just totally uninterested in that there. And now they're paying a price all over the world.
Keaton Weiss
Right. Well, there's no rationale for a Wall street owned left party. And that's been the problem with neoliberalism around the world. In America you have a particularly extreme and blatant version of it, but it's been the same everywhere. Neoliberalism is basically selling out the state to capital. And you do and covering up that process by appealing to culture war issues, keeping people distracted with these increasingly bizarre and arcane debates where you've just, you've completely left the normal range of human concerns when you're talking about whether children should be at drag shows. But that's what they want. They want you fighting over these just absolutely pointless ideas that don't really affect 99.99% of people. Anything to avoid discussion about economics for the right wing who don't give a about these people either because their whole philosophy, because their whole ethos is bootstraps and pull yourself up and make your own way. They don't really have to offer anything. They just have to sell this mythos. Yeah, no, look, you get rid of the immigrants and you close the borders and you crack down on the criminals and hey, it's Gonna be jobs for everybody.
Russell Dobular
Right?
Keaton Weiss
Don't you wanna be self sufficient? Um, and hey, you know, in America, things got bad enough that finally the women said, you know, what, if I need an abortion, I'll take a bus.
Russell Dobular
Right.
Keaton Weiss
I'm just not voting for this anymore. And that was it. That was it. There's no rationale for their existence. And really, as people started to find out pretty quickly, there's no real rationale for supporting these right wingers either. But there's less of an obvious ideological inconsistency. They're promising something, it seems more plausible. Whereas the liberals are just love Trump's hate, you know, it's, there's just nothing there.
Russell Dobular
Right. It's just, it's all just, it's, it's. You're basically making an appeal to emotion. That's basically what, what? Liberal politics. Yes. And you know, on the right side of that, you know, on, on the right side of things, as you talked about, they just have to package a certain mythos. Well, we just have to put things in your hands, right. As the individual. And if things are in your hands as the individual, then guess what? If it doesn't work out for you, who's fault?
Keaton Weiss
You?
Russell Dobular
Yours. Right. Because we deferred to the individual. And what Whitney Webb was talking about earlier is that it's very easy to trick people into voting for their own subjugation, especially when you package it in this way. And especially when the people who are corralling people into this worldview are people like, like Elon Musk, who really seek to consolidate power irrespective of who is actually in office, of what the state actually represents. Once tech grows to the point where it can exert the kind of influence over the society that it now does, it becomes much less important who the President is. Right. And so, and, and so that game plan fuses very nicely with this sort of libertarian worldview, with this sort of libertarian orthodoxy that defers so much to the private sector anyway.
Keaton Weiss
Right.
Russell Dobular
And here you are and this is going to happen all over the world. And you know, there's talk about, you know, Donald Trump is, he's now tweeting Canada should become the 51st state as bad as Trudeau has fucked shit up. I'd be shocked if you have popular will saying that Canadians want to join the United States. Why? Because at the end of the day, after all said and done, if Canada were to join the United States, you know what they would lose? Health care. Health care, Right, exactly. So at the end of the day, that's what you're being corralled into. Right. When you turn power over to the right wing, you're giving up your health care. Right. I mean, and, and which is going to make your life so much harder. And so it's a, it's a sad situation, but it's something that we saw coming. For a decade we've been screaming this was going to happen for a decade. Now, ignored, smeared. You're, you know, how will breaking up the banks stop racism? Hillary Clinton said, well, not breaking up the bank didn't stop racism either, did it?
Keaton Weiss
Well, well, well, no. And if you remember, they were gleeful, gleeful about getting rid of us. Remember Chuck Schumer? Oh, for every blue collar Democrat we lose, we're going to pick up two Republicans in the suburbs. I remember all these mindless libs say, we don't need you.
Russell Dobular
We don't need you people.
Keaton Weiss
We don't need you, Bernie, bro, we told them, like, you're going to see, man, you're losing a generation of voters. You're not just losing voters in this election. You're creating a structural disadvantage that in the end is going to bite you in the ass. And it did.
Russell Dobular
That materialized too. I mean, look at who the core constituent, the core constituencies of the Bernie campaigns were. Latinos and young men. And where did Trump make the biggest inroads this time? Latinos, young men. Boom. That tells the story. Welcome to the Jimmy Dore show, everybody. Keaton Weiss and Russell Dobuler here filling in for Jimmy this week. Want to catch you up on some of the recent Israel news here with a few recent headlines. This one from January 3rd, far right, Israeli lawmakers demand complete cleansing of Northern Gaza. Mask coming off. Look at this headline. Gaza didn't get enough winter shelters. Now babies are dying out in the cold. And what is the third headline? What's the development? What is the United States response? White House to approve massive weapons sale to Israel by Kyle Anzalone of thegreatantiwar.com Sources speaking about the $8 billion arms deal said the Biden administration informally informed Congress. Man, he is really going down that checklist on the way out the door.
Keaton Weiss
Oh, yeah.
Russell Dobular
Fourteen more days, two weeks from today is the changing of the guards. Before President Joe Biden leaves office, he will approve one more massive arms sale to Israel. The 8 billion dollar sale of missiles and artillery shells comes as human rights groups have labeled Israel's war in Gaza as a genocide. Axios reported on Friday the State Department has notified Congress informally of an $8 billion proposed arms deal with Israel that will include munitions for fighter jets and attack helicopters, as well as artillery shells. Author Barack Ravid did not define what it means to informally notify Congress of the sale or if it fulfills the White House's requirement to notify Congress of arms deals. The massive arms sale to Tel Aviv comes after Amnesty International declared Israel's onslaught in Gaza a genocide. Amnesty International's research has found sufficient basis to conclude that Israel has committed and is continuing to commit genocide against Palestinians in the occupied Gaza Strip, the organization said in a landmark new report published today. The report, released in early December, explained The sale includes AIM120C8AMRAAM air to air missiles, Hellfire AGM114 missiles, 155mm artillery rounds, small diameter bombs, JDAM kits and 500 pound bombs. Many of these munitions have been used by Israel during its campaign of extermination in Gaza, including attacks on civilian targets. In June, CNN reported that Israel used US small diameter bombs in an attack on a school that killed 40 civilians. So the same weapons that they have been caught and documented using against civilian targets are apparently coming to them one more time on Biden's way out the door to the tune of $8 billion. In October, the Washington Post noted the Biden administration has received nearly 500 reports alleging Israel used US supplied weapons for attacks that caused unnecessary harm to civilians in the Gaza Strip. 5. Think of that number, you know, you think 500. The war is what, how many days old is this war now? Just a little over 500 days. That's one per day. That's about one instance per day, right? Amnesty International is calling on the U S and other states that provide Israel with arms to cut off the flow of weapons to stop the genocide. States that continue to transfer arms to Israel at this time must know they are violating their obligation to prevent genocide and are at risk of becoming complicit in genocide, said Agnes Calamard, the Secretary General of the organization. You're starting to see on a good note, we'll get to the rest of this in a moment. You're starting to see multiple countries now threaten IDF soldiers with prosecution for war crimes if they set foot in their right in their, on their land.
Keaton Weiss
Well.
Russell Dobular
Being advised, hey, don't, don't travel, don't go on vacation, you know, to a country like Brazil because they can arrest you. Not because you're Jewish, not even because you're Israeli, because you're your idf. And the IDF has now been, they are now wanted for war crimes by the icc. So any state party to the Rome Statute has grounds to arrest any IDF soldier that sets foot on their state. And good on them for doing that.
Keaton Weiss
Yeah, we saw that recently in Australia where they stopped some IDF soldiers from entering. They were coming to visit their grandmother and they wouldn't allow them in the country. They were putting them through an extensive screening process. The sick comedian I just showed in the other segment, Yohei Sponder, he got his concerts canceled in Australia. That wasn't by the government. That was by the venue. And Netanyahu wasn't able to go to Poland. He wanted to go for the Auschwitz anniversary. That's right. They made it clear he'd be arrested if he entered the country.
Russell Dobular
Yep.
Keaton Weiss
So this is phase two. And unfortunately, I think that the best we're going to be able to get is to attempt to destroy this sick, genocidal country through economic boycott and sanction. Right. And isolate it around the world. But saving the Palestinians, it doesn't. It's not looking very good.
Russell Dobular
So Max Blumenthal, quote, tweets this article. He says, so here's the deal. Biden soaks American taxpayers for another mega shipment of munitions to the Israeli holocaust machine. And in exchange, they get pictures of shredded children every day in their Twitter timelines. Professor Zenkis says, just days after Israel's disappearance of Dr. Abu Safiyyah, don't forget they've been raiding the last functioning hospitals in northern Gaza. These past couple of weeks, the Biden Harris administration approved another $8 billion in weapons to Israel. They could have used their leverage to demand his release, but didn't. Democrats are partners in this genocide. Don't vote for them again. You know, that's a good point. That's a good point. There is a doctor that was recently abducted. He was accused without evidence, with no evidence whatsoever. You know, there's no evidence when the AP reports that there's no evidence that he was a Hamas combatant. And you would think, yeah, if they wanted to send them some money, they could say, hey, you have to let this doctor go. We need a proof of life on this guy. But nope, no such thing. No such thing.
Keaton Weiss
No conditions.
Russell Dobular
No conditions. All those State Department hearings where Matthew Miller and Fat Sager were up there saying, well, our Israeli partners are investigating X, Y or Z instance, and we expect to hear from them soon. Well, here you are now, 14 days left until they leave and income the new bosses. Any follow ups from any of these instances? We haven't even had a follow up. We covered because Biden Gave a Presidential Medal of Freedom to Jose Andres, who's the head of the World Central Kitchen. Yeah, we hadn't even. We don't even have a follow up on that. That happened in April. There was supposed to be an investigation. We're going to get to the bottom of. Did they fire kitchen cars on purpose? There's. They are. They're looking into it. They'll get to the bottom of it. That was nine months ago. Have we gotten that? No. And that's when the white Europeans got killed. The media was very upset about that. Media was very upset about that. And we don't have any answers for that. So. Yeah, there will be no leveraging of anything. No asking for this in exchange for that. Nope. No strings attached. Ever. How many times says ACEs has Biden bypassed Congress to send Israel weapons and money over the last year? Osama Makdisi. For the record, the US has supplied Israel with $22 billion of military weapons and aid since October 7, 2023, to enable Israel's genocide in Gaza. And 8 billion more now out the door with just a couple of weeks left. It's just unconscionable. It's just unconscionable. I mean, that's the really the only word for it. And any pretense that the west has any sort of claim to morality, to decency, to lawfulness, to order, to rules, has just really been trampled and spat upon by the Western leaders themselves over this past year. To think how you can be continuing this at this point is just. It's on it. It is unconscionable. It's the only word that comes to mind. I hate to repeat myself.
Keaton Weiss
Yeah. It's like Joe, Joe Biden got his checklist from Asmodeus on the way out, right? Yeah, yeah. Free. Free. Criminal judges that made profits from locking up children, teenagers, drove them to suicide. Yeah. Now we gotta get those guys out of jail, right?
Russell Dobular
Yeah.
Keaton Weiss
Gotta make sure to send that last of that money to Israel. Everyone's talking about HB1 visas. This story kind of flew under the radar. Biden increased the number of visas by tens of thousands that would be available, including in the trucking industry where the truckers are already devastated.
Russell Dobular
Right.
Keaton Weiss
So, yeah, no, it's just like the evil wish list on the way out the door, he's just checking every box. That's a man who doesn't care about going to hell. He said he was Catholic. Now I don't believe him.
Russell Dobular
Yeah. And I don't even believe that anymore. Yeah, I think that's bullshit, too? Yep. Add that to the very long list of Biden lies. Not even a real Catholic. He's not even a real Catholic. You know, he says he's a Catholic. He doesn't even care about going to hell if he.
Keaton Weiss
He'll be lucky if he lives out the year and he's sending another $8 billion to Israel. He doesn't believe in hell.
Russell Dobular
He doesn't believe in hell. Come on. We know that.
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Episode Title: Recent Terror Attacks Have CIA Fingerprints All Over Them! w/ Whitney Webb
Host: Jimmy Dore
Guests: Whitney Webb, Keaton Weiss, Russell Dobular
Release Date: January 8, 2025
In this episode of The Jimmy Dore Show, host Jimmy Dore is joined by guests Whitney Webb, Keaton Weiss, and Russell Dobular to discuss the unsettling theory that recent terror attacks may have ties to the CIA. The conversation delves deep into historical government manipulations, the potential resurgence of covert operations, and the broader implications for domestic and international politics.
The discussion begins with Whitney Webb highlighting the orchestrated nature of recent terror incidents. She points out inconsistencies in media coverage, such as a reporter being staged into an alleged terrorist's apartment with conspicuous evidence like chemicals and open Qurans.
Keaton Weiss echoes these sentiments, emphasizing the almost theatrical staging of these events, which he finds both absurd and insulting.
The conversation shifts to historical government operations, specifically Operation Gladio—a covert NATO initiative during the Cold War aimed at countering Soviet influence in Europe through the manipulation of political landscapes and the orchestration of terror attacks.
Russell Dobular adds that such operations not only manipulated electoral outcomes but also aimed to instill fear, thereby justifying increased governmental control.
The guests delve into the notorious MK Ultra program, suggesting that advanced mind control techniques may still be in play. Keaton Weiss references Tom O'Neill’s research, which indicates that memory erasure experiments might have succeeded rather than failed as popularly believed.
Whitney Webb connects these theories to the manipulation of soldiers and the integration of advanced technologies aimed at controlling human behavior.
The panel critiques the current administration's handling of terrorism, suggesting that the narrative is being manipulated to consolidate power and implement restrictive policies under the guise of national security.
Whitney Webb elaborates on how definitions of domestic terrorism have been expanded to include political dissent, thereby criminalizing opposition to government overreach.
A significant portion of the episode focuses on the resignation of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. The guests discuss Trudeau's declining popularity, attributing his resignation to a series of missteps and crises that eroded public trust.
Keaton Weiss criticizes Trudeau's policies and his inability to maintain support, linking his resignation to broader failures of neoliberalism.
The latter part of the episode addresses the controversial $8 billion arms sale from the Biden administration to Israel, despite accusations from organizations like Amnesty International labeling Israel's actions in Gaza as genocide.
Whitney Webb criticizes the lack of accountability and the unexamined continuation of arms sales, highlighting the moral implications of such deals.
The guests collectively argue that liberalism, influenced heavily by neoliberal policies, has failed to address the needs of the working class, leading to its decline and the rise of populist right-wing movements.
Keaton Weiss adds that neoliberalism distracts the populace with cultural wars while ignoring economic inequalities.
The episode wraps up with a strong condemnation of current political trajectories, emphasizing the dangers of unchecked governmental and corporate power. The guests urge listeners to remain vigilant and resist narratives that aim to consolidate control through fear and misinformation.
Russell Dobular [49:23]: "It's very easy to trick people into voting for their own subjugation, especially when packaged in this way."
Whitney Webb [17:47]: "There is this effort... where they plan overtly to take us."
Whitney Webb [02:05]: "It was about as convincing as the CNN video where she sniffs the backpack with sarin gas."
Whitney Webb [11:01]: "Operation Gladio was basically the CIA going to Europe and staging terror attacks to push European governments to the right."
Russell Dobular [31:07]: "Justin Trudeau announces he is resigning as Prime Minister of Canada. Liberalism is failing all over the world as the material conditions of the working class decline."
Whitney Webb [58:13]: "The US has supplied Israel with $22 billion of military weapons and aid since October 7, 2023, to enable Israel's genocide in Gaza."
Russell Dobular [44:42]: "Palantir can work with Donald Trump... populist right-wing parties don't challenge the consolidation of capital."
This episode of The Jimmy Dore Show presents a critical examination of recent political developments, historical covert operations, and the potential manipulation of terror narratives by powerful agencies. The guests provide a perspective that challenges mainstream narratives, urging listeners to question and seek deeper truths behind significant geopolitical events.
For those interested in alternative media viewpoints and detailed political analysis, this episode offers a comprehensive discussion on the intertwined nature of government actions, corporate influence, and societal control mechanisms.