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Jimmy Dore
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Kyle Anlone
Establishment media sucks.
Misty Winston
August Light and so good luck Bullshit
Kyle Anlone
we can't afford why he's fomenting this. Watch and see as his jack off the medium speeds and jumps the medium
Misty Winston
and hits him head on.
Kyle Anlone
It's the chimney door.
Misty Winston
Thank you for tuning in to the Jimmy Door Show. I am not Jimmy Dore. I am Misty Winston. I am joined by Kyle Anlone, my pal. He has agreed to join me today. We're going to talk a little bit about the cascading support for the state of Israel in the United States, which Kyle and I have talked about for a long time. I think is in specific since October 7th. And you and I have spoken about this and I think it's really important to continue to bring up, especially given if you missed the segment earlier. We talked about the social media and all of that stuff and how and I really think that the advent of social media has really been unbelievably influential in this situation. Because what we have now, what we have seen since October 7th is that, I mean, prior to this, Israel controlled a lot of the narrative in the west, especially in the United States, because basically our media was just stenographers to power, as they always are. But in particular with Israel, they just would print whatever Israel wanted them to say. And now we have a situation where because of social media, we have people on the ground in Gaza and in the west bank who are able to live stream and report on the ground what is actually happening. And I think that you and I have spoken about this. I've seen numerous people make videos about it, about how they felt one. Oh, sorry, they felt one way about Israel. And since October 7th, they've seen these videos and they've seen the way that it's being covered and they've completely changed their mind. They feel like they were lied to. And I think that that has been extremely instrumental. I think the social media coverage and the way that they can't control the narrative anymore has been unbelievably damaging to Israeli PR in a huge way. But we're really starting to see that take shape in a way that I really. This is. This is hu. So this is from David J. Riley. For the first time in about a decade, the Idaho GOP rejected a resolution supporting Israel. The Israel lobby has lost control of the Idaho Republican Party. And I'm absolutely Ecstatic. And this is. I mean, it's kind of wild.
Brian Lenny
Something absolutely incredible has happened here at the Idaho GOP State convention, and that is that for the first time in about a decade, the Idaho GOP has rejected a resolution supporting Israel. I am speechless. I am beside myself because I never thought that this would happen. 80% of the room voted to reject the resolution supporting Israel, condemning Hamas and all that. And of course, it's not because anybody supports Hamas. It's not because people here are anti Semitic. It's because Idaho and Israel have, frankly, nothing to do with each other. Israel is 5,000 miles away, and there is nothing that our state legislators, our lawmakers, our county commissioners, and our state Republican Party can frankly do about. About foreign policy. There's nothing that we can do to affect anything 5,000 miles away. We should be laser focused on doing things at home. And so what happened was in the meeting, Brian Lenny, State Senator Brian Lenny made a motion to strike the resolution supporting Israel. That was seconded by a young gentleman. And they made passionate arguments about why this has nothing to do and is not germane, frankly, to the business of the Idaho Republican Party. And so, yeah, was overwhelmingly rejected, which is just absolutely an incredible turn of events here. We did an interview. I did an interview with Brian Lenny a little bit ago, but unfortunately my microphone wasn't working, so I had to re record this video. But yeah, man, unbelievable. Nobody saw that coming. I thought it was a foregone conclusion that we would be seeing yet another pro Israel resolution, and it hasn't. And so this is what happens when you work together. You don't burn your bridges and you're persistent. You've got to be persistent at this. We've been trying, at least I have, for the past six years, to get this stuff out of the Idaho Republican resolutions, the platform, and all of that. And so a lot of hard work has finally paid off, thanks to Senator Brian Lenny and all of the young delegates here in Meridian, Idaho. So the session is not over yet. We still have to vote on party leadership, which the delegates will be picking up after lunch. But this is a real revolution, I think, because even six months ago, the. The idea that the Idaho GOP would not pass a resolution supporting Israel, this is just unheard of. So the Israel lobby has been blown out. They are no longer in charge of the Idaho Republican Party. And so let's see what happens going forward. You know, this could really piss off the Israel lobby.
Misty Winston
Well, yes, yes, it's gonna piss off the Daily Lobby. I would say that is A foregone conclusion, my guy. Yes, but what do you make of that, Kyle? I mean that's a pretty significant shift.
Kyle Anlone
Yeah, no, I think it's absolutely huge. And just to add to your initial point there about the role that social media played, especially exposing Israel's crimes in Gaza back in 2012, in the very early days of Twitter, I was on there and I saw the Palestinian so called rocket attacks on Israel. Looked like the same science fair projects I was doing with my dad. You know the, the little rockets that you go shoot, they parachute down. These things are so small and Israel is dropping 5001000 pound bombs destroying apartment, entire apartment buildings. And you realize that the Palestinians don't actually present that much of a threat to the Israelis, that it's not about stopping the Palestinian threat. Just like the Israelis sitting on the hill kind of proved that right. Like if the reason you gotta kill all the Palestinians is they're just so dangerous, you probably wouldn't be sitting in direct line of sight of all of them who are actively fighting a war or what you say, fighting a war against Israelis, it, it obviously doesn't make any sense. So the other interesting part of this is, you know, he's talking about this wouldn't have happened six months ago. So really I think the shift among Republicans wasn't the moral atrocities in Gaza, which is kind of disappointing.
Misty Winston
Yeah.
Kyle Anlone
But at least they have finally woken up to the fact that Israel is not our friend, that Israel's goals are not America's goals, that whatever benefits Israel doesn't necessarily benefit the United States of America. And are now interested in drawing a clear dividing barrier between the United States of America and Israel. And in a way I like that more because it is just America first. It's about carrying what happens most in your country. I don't necessarily think it's, you know, the goal of the American government or American civilians at that, to go around the world and try to find every atrocity and human rights violation going on and put an end to it. But we absolutely should be opposed to our government aiding any kind of atrocity or human rights violation. But if we're at least going to stop that, supporting that same government over that government's getting us into wars that don't benefit us. You know, we're moving in the right direction on this for a change.
Misty Winston
Yeah, listen, at this point I don't care what it takes. I don't care if it's because people don't want to pay for it. I don't care. I don't care what it is. I just want it to stop. Like, I just want it to stop. So I welcome this with open arms. And he's right though. This is going to piss off the Israeli lobby. But I think that this is gonna, we're gonna see this cascading across the country. This has been kind of a thing that we've seen it like it's been happening over the course of the past several years. We've seen it building, we've seen the momentum building. We've seen the way that support, I mean if you just look at the polling, which, listen, polling you got to take with a grain of salt and all of those things. But I mean, I think that we have all recognized there's been a significant shift in not just the support but the actual awareness. I think that so many people prior to October 7th just believed whatever the, the preconceived stories that they were told about Israel. They oh, Israel is an ally. Like that's our ally. And that we never, I think most people like general population, the gen pop United States, I don't think anybody ever really gave it a second thought. Nobody really found that there was reason to. And I think that now people have really. When, when a genocide is being live streamed to your device every day and you have to watch that on a daily basis and you see the videos and the pictures, it becomes impossible to ignore. And I think that that's people. Once you start, once you start questioning, once that first question is asked, it becomes like a waterfall and you just start picking away. And I think that that's really what we've seen, is that people have just continually been asking more and more questions and educating themselves about what actually is happening there. So this is another piece of it. Scholars John Mearsheimer and Trita Parsi argue that US Iran deal marks a rare rupture between Washington and the IS lobby. One Trump advance could turn into broad public support. Now, I'm going to preface this by saying I'm incredibly skeptical of this whole supposed shift that Trump and Vance are taking on Israel. I feel like it is politically opportunistic. I don't, I don't know that I buy it at all. However, again, I'll take it if we can use it to turn support away from Israel. So let's just take a listen to this real quick. And what they have to say, very
John Mearsheimer
important point that we want to keep in mind has to do with the difference between the Israel lobbies and Israel's effect on the public discourse in the United States and the effect of the lobby at the level of policy. And I think, as we've talked about on this show before, there's no question that Israel and the lobby have really lost the game when it comes to the public discourse. Criticism of Israel inside of the United States is widespread. It's been at the policy level where the lobby and Israel itself is, have continued to be so successful. So what you see happening here is a huge crack at the policy level. It's the first time we've seen that. But what that tells you is that if Trump and Vance are smart and they appeal in a sophisticated way to the public, they will be able to generate significant public support for the policies that they're pursuing that the Israelis and the lobby don't like. It's not like Trump and Vance will be putting forth a policy or a strategy for dealing with Israel. That's not going to resonate with the public at large. All sorts of people in the public are going to understand exactly what's going on here. And again, if Trump and Vance are smart, they will generate, I think, significant public support inside the United States for what they're doing.
Interviewer
Are you both underestimating the power of the US Congress now on this program? Just a few days ago, I spoke with Professor Farid Azadi. He's from the University of Tehran. And he reminded our listeners of a quote from pat Buchanan in 1990, that quote, Congress is Israeli occupied territory now. The administration, you know, you might be right about Trump and Vance. They might be going to great lengths to change things when it comes to America's relationship with Israel. They might be willing to unfreeze Iranian assets. But Trita, to what extent will Congress play a role here in styming the administration? I mean, Congress may ultimately frustrate any lasting settlement when it comes to sanctions relief, correct? Trita?
Trita Parsi
Yes and no. I think it's important to remember the vast majority of primary sanctions that are imposed on Iran by the United States are done so through executive orders, which means that the president can actually lift them with a stroke of the pen. He does not need to go through Congress. A very large set of secondary sanctions are passed by Congress, those he can only waive or he would have to ask them to lift them. And that's going to be a Herculean task. But you should also remember he did manage to lift the Caesar act, the sanctions on Syria, through Congress. And it was actually quite an achievement, I have to say, because Congress usually never lifts sanctions. Obama didn't even try to lift the Embargo on Cuba. He just lifted some of the executive orders. The embargo was untouched because he didn't want to take the fight in Congress on that issue. So I think there's a significant distance the President can go without involving Congress. Moreover, a lot of these secondary sanctions are going to become hollow without the foundation of primary sanctions underneath them. So many of them may actually become meaningless even if they're on the books. Then there is the question of Inara, which is an act that requires that any nuclear deal needs to go through Congress for approval as well. Now, the question is, if you notice the President, and no one on his team has talked about this as a nuclear deal. It seems like they're going to be talking about this as a US Iran deal that goes far beyond the nuclear deal. And that may be because they're looking at circumventing Congress on that issue as well and never having to take the fight to Congress. And in Naira, because it's not a nuclear deal, arrangement or agreement that is being passed here. I think ultimately Congress is going to have to have some say in all of this, but it's not necessarily as straightforward as people have thought. Another thing I think is important, I just want to add to what John said. John is absolutely right. I think this is actually going to be very good for J.D. vance. This is what is going to boost his chances for 2028 if he manages to get this through. He's on stage, he's looking presidential. He's actually speaking very reasonably about all of these different issues. Of course, if it goes down, he will probably go down with it. But this was his best bet at this point. It is much better to deal with this issue than to deal with Greenland and ice issues in Minnesota. So I think this is actually quite a responsibility that he's been given. Usually vice President don't get to do things like this oftentimes. But here's where Congress and the Democrats come in because John is absolutely right, this will actually work very well with the American public that is sick and tired of how pro Israeli interests have pushed the United States in all kinds of direction, particularly towards war. But now you have a lot of bad faith criticisms of this deal from Democrats as well, senior Democrats. Many of them have actually been playing a very good role in all of this earlier on, but are now coming with all kinds of different attacks because they just want to make sure that this is as costly as possible for administration. And, you know, they're pointing out things that are correct, that obviously this is not A strategic victory for the United States. But at the same time, we do not know what the final deal is. We don't know the nuclear concessions the Iranians are going to give in the final deal, because none of that has been specified. The MoU is just a framework. It is just setting the parameters of the talks. It's not setting the details. And you can't judge this ultimately without the details. And some of their criticism, by the way, are just flat out wrong, such as claiming intellectually dishonest.
Interviewer
That's what you're saying.
Trita Parsi
They're intellectually dishonest, behaving exactly like the Republicans did in 2015 when they were, you know, including Trump himself, all kinds of dishonest attacks against this deal. What I worried about that is that they're going to try to essentially that the net effect of this will be that it will make it less attractive to the American public, but also they may actually create such resistance within Washington that the deal fails. Well, guess what? If the deal fails, we're likely going to go back towards some sort of a military confrontation. And that war will not just be Trump's war, it will also be the Democrats war because they helped make sure that the exit from that deal was destroyed.
Misty Winston
So there you have it. What do you think about this, Kyle? Like, what do you think about this seeming shift, but we're seeing in particular from J.D. vance, but also from Trump. But I think that J.D. vance is being very shrewd here as a politician, and he recognizes that public perception has definitely changed on this issue and that if he wants any chance at all in 2028, he's gonna have to play the game here a little bit. So do you think it's a legitimate shift on their position or is this just politics as usual?
Kyle Anlone
I really can't tell. It seems just as likely to me that this is just another US And Israeli ploy to get Iran to let their defenses down before they just ramp up and attack again. I mean, the current deal on the table seems far worse than the United States, than what Iran was offering in February, and that wasn't apparently good enough or in June of last year before Israel attacked for the first time. They're talking about Iran's letting IAEA inspectors in. I mean, they were in the country a year ago. They're saying, oh, Iran will let traffic go through the Strait of Four moves, but Iran is saying that's now their body of water and they're going to charge a toll for it. And Iran has the ability to bomb Israel in a defense of Lebanon now. So it's hard to imagine that Trump could take a deal with Iran because it's such a loser. At the same time, there's no winning here either. So the best thing they could do is accept the least bad defeat possible, which is the one on table in front of them right now. That being said, I think Israel is in a position where, and I, I was predicting this after Trump won the election in 2024, that Israel was going to force a war with Iran because they would see that public opinion in the United States had changed. However, the people who are actually in charge in Washington had not. And so while the American people, particularly the Democrats, are overwhelmingly done with the support for Israel, Chud Schumer and a lot of the Democratic leadership are the same about Zionists that they've been the entire time. And so I think we're going to see a real push in Congress from Democrats and the Republicans to do everything they can to undermine Donald Trump here. And if this is, you know, more Donald Trump just kind of acting on a whim that the war isn't going the way he wants, he doesn't see any good options for ending it. And so he's using the diplomatic route right now. But when that is coming up all against, all these challenges, not only with the Iranians, who may trying to be overplaying a good hand a little bit. Right. Like, they, they have a lot of room to negotiate, and I think they have the moral high ground. They were attacked and they're defending themselves in this war. I mean, they, they've killed civilians in other countries. That's horrible. But comparatively here, I do think they had the high ground in negotiations, both on the strategic and moral end. That being said, the US Is a world empire and Israel has nuclear weapons. And so it's important to engage in these negotiations with a good dose of reality and understanding that you're dealing with two absolute lunatics here. And it's better to accept a pretty good deal than to try too hard and end up with no deal at all and end up in a place where Donald Trump is saying, well, I rather fight, you know, the Iranians rather than negotiate with the Iranians, the Democrats, the Republicans, and Netanyahu, which I think is the way this could all go.
Misty Winston
Yeah, and it definitely feels like this is like some strategic political maneuvering here, of course, obviously. But I just, I, I, I hesitate because we're seeing right now on social media, everybody is praising JD Vance for taking this bold position against isra. Just don't buy it. I don't trust him. I don't think anybody should. I think that this is nothing more than political posturing. And so people just need to be mindful of that. Like the idea. It just, it frustrates me to watch this cycle play out where politician is awful, holds awful positions, makes a slight shift because he sees a change in public opinion and everybody starts praising that politician and it's just political posturing. And I wish people would stop these, Listen, they're all scumbags. They are all out for themselves, out for their donors. It's never, never, they're never going to be good people. It's just the reality of it. But I mean, just in talking about the, the stark decrease in support, Glenn Greenwald tweeted the, tweeted these out. If someone had told me even just five years ago that there'd be a collapse of support among Americans for Israel, this radical, I wouldn't have believed it. And I'm with him. I wouldn't have believed it either. Drastic, rapid changes in public perception like this are possible only with Internet freedom and independent media. And yes, we talked about this earlier. The, the use of social media in this, this situation since October 7th has been unbelievably important in exposing people to the reality of the situation, to the truth, to what's actually happening on the ground in Gaza, to what they have been dealing with in the West Bank. All of those things, like most people in the United States have never been exposed to anything even resembling the truth on this issue. And so now with social media, when we have people on the ground, we have these courageous, unbelievably courageous journalists on the ground in Gaza, many of them who have been targeted and murdered, many of them who have had their families targeted and murdered by Israel. But they are getting the truth out there. And it has been huge in turning and shifting public opinion. So we see, I mean, you can look at the, the shift, a negative view of Israel. Look at that shift. That is crazy across all, both left and the right. I hate saying left and the right because that's such a ridiculous paradigm, but young Democrats and young Republicans, so the youth especially, I think because they are so social media savvy, they're on social media all the time. It is the way that they interact with the world, generally speaking. And I think that that is, they have been exposed to so much. And I think that many of the videos that I've seen where people have said, you know, I didn't really. And a lot of them have come from young Jewish people actually that I've seen where people, you know, I've been lied to. I've been told all these things about Israel. I've been told that it's my birthright. I've been told all of these things and, and they've been exposed to social media now and seen the reality of what is actually taking place there. And so many of them have change their minds and change their views. And that is because we have a free and open Internet, sort of, and we have a free and open independent media sort of. Again, not entirely, but we do have some semblance of that and that has been incredibly beneficial on the subject. So that's worth fighting for is what I'm trying to say. This is a very long winded way of saying free speech and press freedom are huge. They are unbelievably important. They must be fought for. This is a great example of why,
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Misty Winston
But let's talk about Laura Loomer, guys. She's so funny. So funny. And if you haven't been paying attention to the back and forth between her and Candace Owens, it's highly entertaining. Candace Owens is calling her Saw Face, which I don't. It's just very amusing. But Laura Loomer is now calling for censorship on X because exposing APAC is now considered incitement of violence. Kyle Loomer says anyone who reposts track apac. If you guys aren't familiar, Track APAC is the account that looks into political figures, politicians, really anybody. And if you take money from aipac, then they expose you and expose how much money you have taken from aipac. She is now saying that anybody who reposts a track a pack account should be permanently banned. Twitter should ban this account and people who repost it. Here her own words, lies and propaganda that is spread by people who retweet this insane account that really should be banned for incitement of violence. Twitter should literally ban this account and ban people who repost this APAC tracker account. Her own words there. Her own words. Guys, this is why this is funny to me, okay? This is why this is funny to me. Laura Loomer, alt right commentator, chains herself to Twitter HQ after being banned, but then she gave up after two hours. This is so funny to me. She is currently demanding that anybody that reposts track Apex. Who? All they do is post pictures. I should have pulled one up. I'm sure you guys have seen it. They're all red and it's just like the picture of the politician. And then on the left or the right hand side of the little image, it shows how much money that they've taken from apac. That's it. That's what they post. She is claiming that that is incitement to violence, Kyle. And saying that anybody who reposts that should be banned from Twitter. Which is highly amusing given this article. So Laura Loomer, a far right conspiracy theorist and activist, handcuffed herself, by the way, this was 2018. Okay. Of Twitter's headquarters in New York City on Thursday after she was banned from the platform for hate speech. But the protest ended just over two hours later with little fanfare when Ms. Loomer had to ask police officers to help free her from her cuffs. This is such an embarrassing display. The 25 year old was permanently banned. And I can't believe in 2018 she was only 25. So what is that? That's eight years ago. So she's what, 33? I can't believe she's only 33. Okay, that's neither here nor there. Was permanently banned from the social media platform on 21 November after she posted a tweet attacking Ilhan Omar, an incoming congresswoman who is Muslim. Ms. Loomer's tweet, which accused the politician of being anti Jewish and supporting SRI a lot, at least she's consistent, I guess. Was deemed by Twitter to have violated the company's rules against Hapel conduct. Facebook soon followed suit and has also banned the conspiracy theorists. In response, Ms. Loomer spent her short protest dressed in a sweater which had hashtag Stop the bias written on the back. The 25 year old also wore a yellow star similar to those that Jewish people in Europe were forced to wear in Nazi Germany. Jesus. Ms. Loomer spent part of her time on Thursday shouting at Twitter employees, telling them that they worked for an evil company, having only attached herself. This is the best part. Having only attached herself to one of the Two doors. The activist did not fully obstruct the interest and the company's employees seemed largely unconcerned by the protest as they walked past her. They don't want you guys to know the truth, she told other passersby. The conspiracy theorists alleged that she had been silenced for being a Jewish conservative journalist and that Twitter was upholding Sharia law through the act of banning her quote. We have notified the relevant authorities who are responding, a spokesperson for Twitter said in a statement released during the protest. The account holder was suspended for violating our policies. We applied the Twitter rules impartially and not based on ideology. Despite Ms. Loomer's apparent anger, her protest, which began at around 3:45 local time, ended at 6 6pm at that point, Ms. Slimmer asked police officers who were present to free her by cutting through her handcuffs. The 25 year old previously made headlines after she disrupted Twitter CEOs Jack Dorsey's appearance before Congress in September. As Mr. Dorsey prepared to speak, she launched into a tirade against the tech billionaire. She was drowned out, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. These are direct quotes from Laura Loomer on censorship, by the way. Quote, censorship is unamerican and it's egregious that any journalist would advocate for others to be banned for political speech, end quote. And also, quote, tech giants use hate speech as a term and a reason to ban individuals who they disagree with. But in reality there is no such thing as hate speech, end quote. So this is. As a free speech activist, this is the bane of my existence because nobody actually has consistent principles when it comes to this issue. She wants free speech for her and she wants to shut everybody that she disagrees with up. And that is pretty par for the course. It's very rare to find people that that does not apply to. But this made me giggle. Laura Loomer is a joke, Kyle. This is ridiculous, right?
Kyle Anlone
Yeah. I mean, she's a deeply, deeply unwell person.
Misty Winston
Yes.
Kyle Anlone
And we really should all just ignore her. Like you do this screaming person on, you know, in Times Square talking about Jesus is coming back and it's time to repent that. That should be everybody's opinion of Laura Loomer, but she has all this influence in the current administration. She's actually getting people deported, getting. I think it was probably Laura Loomer that helped to get the State Department at least to start to look into Trita Parsi, the executive Vice President of Responsible Statecraft and probably the most knowledgeable and just well reasoned and balanced commentator on the Iran issue. In this entire country, you know, and get him kicked out of the country. So this woman's an absolute lunatic. I remember after she got kicked off of Twitter, there's an interview with her, with Alex Jones where she's having a full on meltdown, like because she's addicted to ads and it's been deprived from her and she's explaining how, you know, the dopamine she hit, she gets from notifications on ads, has replaced the dopamine she used to get from being a cocaine addict. Right? And so like this woman, you know, needs to be in an institution somewhere where, you know, they, they chime a nice bell every 30 seconds and give her like a sweet tart or something, you know, to make her like happy because I don't know what else society is going to do with her. She's just, she's a maniac. And yet she has the ear of the President of the United States because she's just gonna be so complimentary and flattery towards him. I don't think she has any consistent principles. I don't even know how much she really likes fights the state of Israel. I think she sees being Jewish as something she could use to like promote herself and you know, claim anytime anybody's attacking her that she's some kind of victim of this horrible anti Semitism. But in reality she, she's really just insane.
Misty Winston
She is absolutely off her rocker and she has 1.9 million followers on Twitter. And that's why like, as Kyle said, we really should just be ignoring her. Like she is about as relevant and as worthwhile to listen to as the bum on the corner of the street who's like rambling about who knows what and you know, not wearing shoes. Like, and I don't mean that in a disparaging way towards homeless people. I'm just saying that like, we should be treating her as like her opinions and her views in the same manner that I mean, we just. You just keep walking like you just keep. But unfortunately, she does have a tremendous amount of influence and she does have a tremendous, a huge platform and as you just said, the ear of the freaking President. Which as you it, all she does is if you just compliment him, if you just tell him he's great and he's awesome and he's the best thing that's ever happened, then he's all like, that's all it takes. That's all it takes with Donald Trump is you just gotta flatter the guy. And that's what she does. And now she has the ear of the president. And she's hugely influential in conservative spaces. And she is, is insane. And it's wild to me that, you know, anybody takes her seriously. But that's kind of why I wanted to do this story, because she's nuts. And this just proves it. I mean, this is somebody to go to Twitter HQ because you're mad and throw a temper tantrum because you got banned. And listen, I don't think she should have been banned. I am very much a free speech absolutist. I don't think you should be banned off of Twitter for some that you said at all. I defended Alex Jones, I defended Donald Trump. I, I'll defend anybody on that issue. But to go and throw a temper tantrum and lock yourself or handcuff yourself to one door, which does nothing. This is the most spineless, ridiculous, useless, most ineffective protest I have ever seen in my life. And to only manage to last for two hours, it's, and again, I really don't even think it was about the protest. I think it was, it's attention. She just wants attention, and that's really what it amounts to. And yeah, she's nuts. And I really wish that people would just stop talking about her and to her and paying attention to things that she says. I remember a long time ago, people used to say that about Sarah Palin. Like, we should just stop talking about her and she'll go away. Guess what? People stopped talking about her and she went away. Like, when's the last time you heard about Sarah Palin? Like, you, you just have to shut that off and stop talking about her and stop feeding her the energy and the attention that she wants, because that's really what it's about. However, I will say that watching her go back and forth with Candace Owens has been prime entertainment.
Kyle Anlone
Candace is a really good opponent for Laura Loomer because a lot of people, when they deal with somebody like Laura, take it too seriously. And when you do that, you actually give. Right. Like, you know, if you got somebody on the street corner yelling about how the United States is about to be split in half. I, I, I spent some time working community mental health. I've heard the, the ramblings of people with schizophrenia. You know, it's actually a real honor when somebody with schizophrenia tells you, like, warns you about the end of the earth because they seriously believe it's going to happen.
Misty Winston
Yeah.
Kyle Anlone
But at the same time, if you're like, oh my gosh, really? Like, are you trying to, like, debunk what they're telling you? It actually feeds more into their delusion. The best thing to do is just kind of redirect the conversation and try to talk about something else. And so with Loomer, when you buy into it and you get into like the weeds and the muck of what she's saying, you're. You're giving her more validation than she actually deserves. When you just dismiss her as saw face it, it just draws a nice punch and the rest of us could get a good chuckle out of it.
Patrick Henningson
Yeah.
Misty Winston
And listen, I don't always agree with Candace Owens, but I can tell you this. I don't ever want to piss her off because she is vicious. She will come at you, your mom, your grandma, like your dead uncle. She doesn't care. She will come at everybody that you know and love. And she's great at it. I love watching it. Like, her takedowns are pretty fantastic. Highly entertaining. 10 out of 10 definitely recommend. If you haven't been paying attention to that, just go read through some of Candace's responses because they are highly entertaining. Again, this is really depressing. I apologize, but this is some relatively breaking news. Study reveals more than 680,000 Palestinians dead are missing in Gaza, Palestine from September 2025. While the Gaza Health Ministry only counts verified bodies, their capacity has collapsed after three years of relentless bombing and genocide, which I think all of us are unsurprised by. So here is first video 10.
Narrator/Reporter
This is the number of days of absolute horror that the people in Gaza have endured. 65,000 is the number of Palestinians a certain killed, including over of which 75% are women and children. In fact, we shall start thinking of 680,000 because this is the number that some scholars and scientists claim being the real death toll in Gaza. And it would be hard to be able to prove or disprove this number, especially if investigators and others remained banned from entering the occupied Palestinian territory and particularly the Gaza Strip. But if this number is confirmed, 380,000 are of the. These are infants under five.
Misty Winston
That's staggering, dude. Like, I can't even listen to that.
John Mearsheimer
It's.
Misty Winston
I mean, just like in my head, I'm. I can't help but like, imagine it and like, visualize it in my head, which I wish I didn't have the capacity to do. But that is a staggering number. And here's another video also from that same academic study.
Patrick Henningson
This was released with Western and I believe even Israeli academics involved in the compilation of data saying dead or missing 680,000 Palestinians Indians. And Francesca Albanese has Also cited this as well. At what point is the, are the numbers too high for the American political Congress, the Senate, the mainstream in America? What does it need to be officially a million? Is that not enough? I was asking this question right after October 7th. What's the, what's the magic number when we all say stop, what do we get Instead? We get U.S. officials saying, oh, those death counts are fake. Oh, it's the Hamas Gaza Ministry of Health.
Narrator/Reporter
Health.
Patrick Henningson
It's the Hamas department of this, the Hamas that just by labeling everything Hamas, they don't have administrative infrastructure anymore in order to count the amount of people who have been killed, categorize them, much less the search and rescue and first responder capability to dig them out of the rubble. We're talking about, you know, maybe over hundreds of thousands of children or under the age of five. That's in the new report. I mean this is a real emergency for humanity. They're so blase in Washington about it.
Misty Winston
It's horrifying. Like it's horrifying. And shout out to Patrick Henningson. He was my co worker at TNT Radio. He still works over at 21st Century Wire. Great guy, really nice guy.
Kyle Anlone
Occupational guest on the Kyle Anne's Loan show as well.
Misty Winston
Yeah, I love Patrick.
Kyle Anlone
That's really important to talk about, Misty, because when we do talk about the Gaza death toll, we are, as they explained, talking about the Gaza Health Ministry numbers which are designed to be minimal counts. Right. They're counting the bodies they receive. They get the body, they identify it, they process it. I think even if they don't identify the body they counted. Sometimes the body are identified later, sometimes they're not. But of course this means that you have 73,000, I think now people who have died since the start of the war that they could count. But we've seen all these videos of, of Palestinians walking down the road and just piles of rubble everywhere and they're completely blown off the face of the earth by a drone. Did anybody count them? Or videos of Israeli snipers shooting people who cross the so called no zone goes the kill zones into Gaza and then Israel comes by and just buries their body in a shallow grave with a bulldozer. That's probably never counted. There's a recent story, I think it was in the Guardian where they interviewed an Israeli soldier who talked about they had what they called dog lines in Gaza. So they set a line if a Palestinian cross. Of course there was no actual line on the ground. Just the Israelis said that this is a line if a Palestinian enters. It doesn't matter if they have a gun, if it's a woman, if it's a child, they kill that person. They called them the dog lines because the bodies were dropped there and they just left them. The stray dogs came and ate the remains. Right. Are any of those people ever counted? No. And so the number of violent deaths from the conflict is certainly tens of thousands of higher than the 73,000 now. In all modern wars, the number of people killed by the war, by actual combat, is always four to five times lower than the number of people who are actually killed in the war because they're killed by starvation. You know, knocking childhood medication, a lot of waterborne illnesses, which means, you know, they particularly talk about the children under the age of five, which, you know, they get cholera or something else that either makes them throw up or have diarrhea until they dehydrate themselves to death. And that's how they die. We hear stories now about, you know, these Palestinians. A lot of them have been living in the same canvas tents for two and a half years. And so they're eaten through by rats, and the rats are eating and biting the children as they sleep at night. There's. There's fleas everywhere because they're living in the sand. It's. It's an absolute nightmare. The worst possible scenario. Hell, I once read an article from Israeli doctors, and they weren't at all concerned about the lives of Palestinians, but they were saying that this is such a biohazard nightmare that we're creating in Gaza, we could create a plague for our own soldiers. Yeah, because they're interacting with these Palestinians who are being bitten by rats and. And spreading all these diseases all the time.
Misty Winston
Yeah. And something else we need to mention, too, because they do this very often when they want to discount or discredit these numbers. And Patrick mentioned it. Oh, it's Hamas. These are Hamas numbers. Well, the Hamas Health Ministry. Those numbers have been good enough. Israel uses them, historically speaking. Those are the numbers that are used. They are valid. And as you said, probably. Well, we know for sure. Wildly undercounted. Wildly, wildly undercounted. And it is important to distinguish between people that are killed by actual violent combat, whether it's drones, bombs, whatever, whatever, snipers, whatever. But, I mean, we are. I think people are missing the whole extra piece of this where people are dying from disease, they are dying from malnutrition, they are dying from all of these other things that are entirely preventable. If Israel were to allow aid to get through the blockades, all of that stuff. Not entirely, but largely preventable. We could prevent many of those deaths, and there's just no interest or desire whatsoever to do that. And it's very frustrating to watch this. And again, the idea that 680,000 people have just been wiped off the face of the planet is mind blowing to me. And the idea that. I mean, I think it was Patrick who said, when is it enough, Kyle? Like, when is it enough? How many people is it. Is it then finally enough? Because I don't know what that looks like. And it is astonishing to me that. And maybe this is just because it's not widely reported in the. In the West. I don't. I haven't really seen much talk of the 680,000. And even when it is, as Patrick said, it is discounted and discredited because it's Hamas numbers. But it's just. It's. It's wild to me that this is not something. I mean, I, as a human, like, maybe I'm crazy, but, like, I. And maybe it's. I'm a mom. I don't know. But, like, I can't get it out of my head, and I wish I didn't have this kind of brain, but I can't stop thinking about, like, the. Like the infants and toddlers who were just buried under rubble and still alive and then just left there in the dark, crying, confused, scared, starving, to just die in, like, darkness underneath the rubble. Like, that's devastating to me. Like, it's. And the idea that this is not bothersome to people and that people can just brush it off and be so blase about these deaths is just. It. It's repugnant. Like, I just. I don't understand. I don't understand humanity. I don't understand how this is a thing that we can do and people just. Just brush it off like it's no big deal. And it seems like that's where we're at. 680,000 is a massive ass number, and people just don't seem to care, and it's really depressing.
Kyle Anlone
Yeah, I think it's because a lot of people, particularly, I mean, if you look at the numbers that Glenn Greenwald was pointing out, tens of thousands of Palestinians dead was actually enough for a lot of Americans to say, we can't stomach this anymore. Unfortunately, we don't have real humans on Capitol Hill. Right. And unfortunately for people like Tom Cotton and Ted Cruz and Randy Fine, you know, Mike Huckabee, of course, is the U.S. ambassador to Israel. I think the number is 2 million, the number of Palestinians in Gaza, that Israel could kill them all and they frankly would not care because they are either not humans themselves or don't see the Palestinians as human.
Misty Winston
That's what it is right there. You just nailed it. That's what it is. They don't, don't see them as human. They. It's, it is a. It's fine. Like it's. What did Madeline Albright say? That it was worth it. What was it? The 500,000?
Kyle Anlone
Yeah, the 500,000. It was worth it for the Israelis. There's always been, and this is something that's really made me aware of the Israel, Palestinian situation for a long time and just how unacceptable the Israeli position is, is they don't grant any, any leniency to children.
Misty Winston
No.
Kyle Anlone
For, for decades you've hear rhetoric from Israeli officials saying that when Palestinian mothers give birth, they're giving birth to terrorist snakes.
Misty Winston
Yeah, dude, do you remember the, the shirts that they had made that the IDF had made where it was a picture of a pregnant woman and in Hebrew on the back it said two kills. Two kills, one bullet. Or something like that?
Kyle Anlone
Right.
Misty Winston
I mean, just repugnant. But yes, that's how the story, that's how they think.
Kyle Anlone
Said it was unsafe for a Jewish Israeli woman to give birth in the same maternity ward as a Palestinian woman. And how their children could ever be midst and receive the same care is disgusting to them. Because you know, even when a Palestinian is a one day old infant, from the point of view of a lot of these Israelis, particularly the ones in position of power, they are an evil terrorist just waiting to be old enough to carry a gun and to kill Jews.
Misty Winston
Yeah, that's exactly what it is. That's really depressing. But that is exactly what it is. Okay, so there you go. That is the new estimate. 680,000 dead based on the data collected. And 380,000 of them are infants under five. That is depressing. So there you have it. Israel, there's big news happening today. I'm sure many of you have already seen it happen earlier today. Keir Starmer has actually resigned, which is kind of crazy considering the insane amount of leaders that they have gone through over the course of the past, I don't know, decade or so. So let's jump into this. So it says Britain's Prime Minister Keir Starmer says he will resign with a new leader to be in place by the time Parliament returns in September, paving the way for Britain to have its seventh leader in 10 years. That is wild behavior. So we are going to take a listen. It is sped up because it is kind of a longer speech. But he did give a speech about his resignation resignation today. So we're going to take a listen to that real quick.
Keir Starmer
Party is asking now. The question my party is asking now is whether I am best placed to lead us into the next general election. I have heard the answer of my parliamentary party to that question, and I accept that answer with good grace. Every decision I've taken has been about putting the country I love first. That is why I will resign as leader of the Labour Party.
Misty Winston
So there you have it. Keir Starmer has resigned. This is, I mean, it's kind of not surprising. He has been under a significant amount of pressure. So we're going to read this from the Associated Press. British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Monday he will resign, forced out by his own party after missteps and mistakes soured voters goodwill following a landslide election victory two years ago. Two years ago on a promise of steady leadership and economic growth, which he did not do any of that. Starmer says he will remain caretaker prime minister until his labor party chooses a new leader, with expectations growing that it will be former Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham. It was Burnham's victory in a special parliamentary election last week that triggered Starmer's decision to resign as labor lawmakers flocked to the charismatic fort former mayor in the hope he can revive the party's fortunes after nearly a decade as mayor of the northwestern city. Burnham returned Monday to Parliament, where he took the oath of office in the House of Commons. Only members of Parliament are eligible for the party leadership. Starmer is the sixth prime minister in a decade to stand outside number 10 Downing street and announce a departure. His statement came the day before Britain marks the 10th anniversary of its vote to leave the European Union, a decision that still royals the country's economy and politics. POLITICS after weeks of insisting he would fight to keep his job, Starmer conceded to growing pressure to hand over hand over to a new leader who can try to revive the government's flagging fortunes. He led labor to a landslide victory in July of 2024, but since then his popularity and that of the party have plummeted. Starmer has struggled to deliver promised economic growth, repair tattered public services and ease the cost of living. He has been hamstrung by repeated missteps, including his decision to appoint Peter Mandelson, never a good idea, a scandal tarnished friend of Jeff Epstein, of all people, as UK Ambassador to the United States labor is losing liberal voters to the growing Green party and facing a rising reform uk the Nigel Farage Farage led anti immigrant immigration party that consistently leads a nation leads a nationwide opinion polls can't talk. Today US President Donald Trump weighed in even before an announcement linking Starmer's exit to two of the Republican leaders recurring grievances. Immigration and renewable energy. And in true Donald Trump fashion, his tweets are so. I don't know, it's like a toddler. I don't. It's crazy. Keir Starmer will resign as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. He failed badly on two very important subjects, immigration and energy. Open North Sea oil. I wish him well, President DJT he just has such an interesting style of tweeting. Starmer's initially warm relationship with Trump has soured in recent months over issues including the Iran war, which the UK didn't join. Good for them. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen Prai Starmer's legacy quote, it can take many leaders years to grow into the statesman you became in just two years. She said on X. European and Ukrainian security is stronger because of you. Thank you dear Kier. And then of course here is from Adam Medium Media, Keir Starmer set to resign finally. I think a lot of people have that sort of reaction to this. It's shocking that it took this long to be honest with you. So let's recap his two years of selling out. According to Adam, he won the largest labor majority in a generation. A historic mandate, the country in his hands. He then appointed Peter Mandelson, Epstein's man in Britain, as his first major hire. Cracked down on Palestinian protests and civil liberties, backed every war back to genocide, raised taxes, historic unemployment, did absolutely nothing about the cost of living except make it worse. Caved like a corrupt coward on abolishing lease hood, rolled out digital id, force ID for all new accounts, banned social media for young people and increased anti Semitism education in schools. It continues. The result. Lost nearly 1500 council seats in a single local election. Net approval rating of -66. The most unpopular prime minister since records began. That is quite the title to have there. And here's what should terrify the labor establishment. Only 5% of labor voters who left went to Reform, 32% went to Greens and Lib Dems. They didn't lose to the right, they lost to the left that they abandoned. And I think that we're seeing this, we see that we're seeing this here. Right? The Democrats are having the exact same issue. They're they're not losing. They're not. They're losing their own base is essentially what is happening here. They're moving to the right and losing the left, which is very similar to what's happening in the uk. Kirstar was never there to represent you. He was there to neutralize the left and hand the establishment to terms of safe, managed decline. Mission accomplished. Sort of sound familiar? I mean, that is exactly what is happening here. He.
John Mearsheimer
The.
Narrator/Reporter
The.
Misty Winston
The Democratic Party is not here to represent you. They are simply here to neutralize the left. And that, I mean, we can. It mirrors us so dramatically. Giannis Varoufakis. I always say his name wrong and I apologize. This is a really well written tweet. It's very long, but it is a very well written tweet, he says. Keir Starmer was not merely a disappointment. He is a mendacious figure of ethical decrepitude. A man who won the Labor Party leadership based on promises that he jettisoned five seconds after winning. Winning. A Labor leader who dared banish from the Labor Party not only his predecessor, but also remarkable human beings like director Ken Loach, the gentleman who has taken the historic Labor Party and transformed it into a vessel for the very oligarchy he was elected to restrain. Consider the litany of Starmer's moral and logical failures. He promised a different Britain, yet his actions were a masterclass in Tory light politics, using the same maxed out credit card analogies that once served the Austerity Brigades AIDS to justify his own failure of vision. He promised a human rights lawyers approach, but he embraced a racist light version of farage on Europe. Starmer promised the Brexiteers that Brexit is Brexit, yet stood before those who yearn to rejoin the European Union winked at them to make them feel that Britain would gradually reconnect, even rejoin with the eu, while offering nothing of substance. This is not leadership. It is a fraud. And then there's the manner in which Starmer and his government rushed to offer Israel unequivocal support in pursuing its genocide in Gaza, sacrificing precious political and civil liberties in the UK by imprisoning grandmothers, priests and peaceful activists who dared support Palestine Action, an organization that Starmer and his minions prescribed as terrorists for practicing the usual activist tactics of trespassing to spray paint military planes that had demonstrably aided in the genocide. To add insult to injury, Starmer performed the diplomatic pantomime of recognizing a Palestinian's state in a manner that ensured it would never happen. And I'm sure everybody is familiar with the Palestine action saga that has been going on. They prescribe them as terrorists. They're really just. They're just activists, everyday activists. I am an activist. We worked on the street on for Julian Assange. They're trying to label anybody who is an activist who cares at all about any issue whatsoever as a terrorist. They're doing that in this country as well. They're doing it over there with Palestine Action. Literally, if you just held up a sign, sign at a protest that says I stand with Palestine Action or I support Palestine action, you would get arrested. They were literally arresting grandmothers, grandfathers, pregnant women, you name it, simply for holding a sign in support of Palestine Action. It's insanity. His tweet continues. But above all else, this is a government that has learned nothing from the post 2008 era. Starmer and his chancellor are playing the same tired austerity game while enabling and empowering the finance curse perpetuated by the City of London. Throwing in for good measure, cuts in international aid to fund a military spinning trickle under the guise of a strategic defense review. It's the same old doctrine. Austerity for the masses, socialism for the financiers and the arms dealer again. Does that sound familiar? History will remember Mr. Starmer as a man without conviction, a Prime Minister who offers not a shred of honesty, but merely the cruel illusion of change. He is ethically decrepit because he has chosen, he had chosen consciously to abandon principle for power. And for that, history will indict him. Him. Good riddance, I say. And I'm hearing a lot of people in the UK are just really grateful to see him gone. He is a terrible individual. So this is. There's a couple things that I'm going to play here just to give you an idea of who this turd is. So he says we have to make the case for freedom of movement. As Kier heads to the European Commission for a meeting with Ursula von on rebuilding relations with the European UN, European Union. Here's a throwback to 2020 and let me find the right video first.
Patrick Henningson
Welcome.
Keir Starmer
We welcome migrants. We don't scapegoat them. Low wages, poor housing, poor public services are not the fault of migrants. And people who've come here, they're political failure. Political failure. So we have to make the case for the benefit of migration, the benefits of free movement.
Misty Winston
And this is something that he, I mean, as you're going to see, he 100% backed off of pretty instantaneously after saying these things. He has been really anti immigrant ever since then. So Keir Starmer resigns from the UK Prime Minister. He made a statement saying mass invasion of the UK was done by design and all the Western leaders were in on it. Starmer is responsible for the rape and murder of countless UK citizens. So here is where he kind of backs.
Keir Starmer
Because a failure on this scale isn't just bad luck. It isn't a global trend or taking your eye off the ball. No, this is a different order of failure. This happened by design, not accident. Policies were reformed deliberately to liberalize immigration. Brexit was used for that purpose to turn Britain into a one nation experiment in open borders global Britain.
Misty Winston
And then this is, this is what I remember most. And I'm glad that somebody brought this up and posted about it because this is exactly how I remember Keir Starmer. I remember seeing this video and just being absolutely gobsmacked that this is something that he would say out loud. It is par for the course I think right now for Western leaders, the sort of despicable things that they are willing to say out loud when it comes to things like Gaza. But this I thought was really pretty disgusting. So let's take a listen to this.
Keir Starmer
Israel must have. I'm very clear. Israel must have, that does have that right to defend herself and Hamas bears responsibility.
Kyle Anlone
A siege is appropriate. Cutting off power, cutting off water.
Keir Starmer
I think that Israel does have that right. It is an ongoing situation. Obviously everything should be done within international law. But I don't want to step away from the sort of core principles that Israel has a right to defend herself and Hamas bears responsibility for these terrorist acts. And I would call on all responsible states, particularly Middle east responsible states, to call this out for what it is and to stand with the world in condemning, utterly condemning these actions by Hamas.
Misty Winston
I mean, yes, let's call it what it is. It's a genocide, my guy. And Israel doesn't have a right to defend itself. It's not defending itself. It has never been defending itself. It is committing a genocide side for the Greater Israel Project. Everybody knows that. We all know that. But the idea that he can sit, sit there in front of that man and the man is asking him, do you think that Israel should be allowed to turn off electricity, to deny them water? All of those things that are very clearly war crimes. And he says, yeah, Israel's a right to defend itself. And that is absurd on every level. It is crazy to me that that is even a consideration and that a Western leader can sit on a national television show, show and proclaim that that is something that should be allowed is wild to me. But I mean, we're going to talk about it a little later in the show. The, the support for Israel certainly waning. And I think that that's a little piece of why we're seeing Keir Starmer have to resign. I mean, among other things. Listen, this guy was a epic failure. I mean, he did nothing that he. And this is really no surprise. I wish we had this sort of opportunity in the United States to remove leaders like, like this in the midst of a term because all of them would be fired immediately. None of them hold up to their end of the bargain. He is really no different. But the idea that the UK is now, I mean, having to go through this whole, this whole thing again and they have to go through finding another prime minister again and it, I mean, what did they say it is. This is, this is it the seventh. What did it say? I think it's the seventh in like 10 years or something. Crazy. That is. I mean, that's wild that they have so much. I don't know if, like unrest is just really just distrust in the government and the. But the idea that they're holding him accountable and that he was able to be forced out, I think is really. That's nice. That's nice that they have that opportunity that they can sort of force him out on his, his rear end. It'll be interesting to see how the next person plays out, though. I'm not really sure that they have. I mean, I know it's this guy from Manchester, he's a really popular mayor and things like that, but I mean, at this point it seems as if it's just a conveyor belt of failure and I'm not really sure that, that there's anything brighter ahead, but Kier Starmer is out. Good for the uk I think. In my opinion, he was a giant douche canoe and was definitely no friend to Gaza, as we just saw in that last video. There he was, was a horrible individual who was more than willing to let Israel commit all kinds of atrocities against the people of Gaza.
Jimmy Dore
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Kyle Anlone
Don't freak out,
Misty Winston
Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out.
Narrator/Reporter
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Jimmy Dore
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Misty Winston
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John Mearsheimer
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Kyle Anlone
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Jimmy Dore
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Misty Winston
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Jimmy Dore
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The Jimmy Dore Show – Episode Summary
Episode Title: Republicans' Support For Israel Is CRATERING! w/ Kyle Anzalone
Date: June 24, 2026
Host: Misty Winston (guest hosting for Jimmy Dore)
Main Guest: Kyle Anzalone
Notable Contributors: John Mearsheimer, Trita Parsi, Patrick Henningson
This episode of The Jimmy Dore Show delves into the rapidly decreasing support for Israel within the American public and, more notably, among Republican officials. Misty Winston, filling in as host, and Kyle Anzalone analyze key moments such as the Idaho GOP’s unexpected rejection of a pro-Israel resolution and the broader implications of shifting U.S. policies towards Israel, including recent Republican rhetoric and public polling. The conversation broadens to media coverage, social media’s role, internal political maneuvering, leadership changes in the UK, and the humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza.
Idaho GOP Rejects Pro-Israel Resolution
"80% of the room voted to reject the resolution supporting Israel, condemning Hamas and all that. ... It's because Idaho and Israel have, frankly, nothing to do with each other. ... We should be laser focused on doing things at home."
Shift Driven by Social Media Exposure
"Prior to this, Israel controlled a lot of the narrative in the West, especially in the United States, because our media was just stenographers to power... But now, we have people on the ground...able to live stream and report on what is actually happening."
"It's absolutely huge...at least they have finally woken up to the fact that Israel is not our friend, that Israel's goals are not America's goals...Now interested in drawing a clear dividing barrier between the United States and Israel."
"When a genocide is being live streamed...it becomes impossible to ignore. Once you start questioning, once that first question is asked, it becomes like a waterfall."
Scholars John Mearsheimer and Trita Parsi analyze whether Trump/Vance's semi-critical stance on Israel is genuine or opportunistic.
"Israel and the lobby have really lost the game when it comes to public discourse...What you see happening here is a huge crack at the policy level."
Trita Parsi points out the political complexity and possible Congressional obstruction.
"A very large set of secondary sanctions are passed by Congress...But a significant distance the President can go without involving Congress."
"It's nothing more than political posturing. ... They are all out for themselves, out for their donors."
"She's a deeply, deeply unwell person. ... This woman needs to be in an institution somewhere. ... And yet she has the ear of the President of the United States."
Coverage of new academic estimates that the real death toll in Gaza may be as high as 680,000, vastly exceeding official counts.
"Dead or missing: 680,000 Palestinians. ... What does it need to be officially—a million? Is that not enough?"
"In all modern wars, the number of people killed by the war, by actual combat, is always four to five times lower than the number of people who are actually killed...because they're killed by starvation...disease."
On dehumanization of Palestinians:
Misty: "I don't understand humanity. ... 680,000 is a massive ass number, and people just don't seem to care."
Kyle: "For people like Tom Cotton, Ted Cruz...Israel could kill them all and they frankly would not care because they either are not humans themselves or don't see the Palestinians as human."
Britain’s PM Keir Starmer resigns amid plummeting support and repeated policy failures, including support for Israel’s war, economic woes, and suppressing pro-Palestinian activism.
"I have heard the answer of my parliamentary party...I will resign as leader of the Labour Party."
Starmer Interview (56:24):
"Israel must have...that right to defend herself and Hamas bears responsibility."
He explicitly endorses policies widely considered war crimes, showing Western complicity in the Gaza catastrophe.
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Highlight | |-----------|----------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:42 | Brian Lenny | "80% of the room voted to reject the resolution supporting Israel...Idaho and Israel have, frankly, nothing to do with each other." | | 06:36 | Kyle Anzalone | "It's absolutely huge...they have finally woken up to the fact that Israel is not our friend, that Israel's goals are not America's goals." | | 07:35 | Misty Winston | "When a genocide is being live streamed...it becomes impossible to ignore." | | 09:47 | John Mearsheimer | "Israel and the lobby have really lost the game when it comes to public discourse...here is a huge crack at the policy level." | | 18:00 | Misty Winston | "It's nothing more than political posturing. ... They are all out for themselves, out for their donors." | | 26:52 | Kyle Anzalone | "She's a deeply, deeply unwell person. ... And yet she has the ear of the President of the United States." | | 34:52 | Patrick Henningson | "Dead or missing: 680,000 Palestinians...What does it need to be officially—a million? Is that not enough?" | | 36:19 | Kyle Anzalone | "In all modern wars, the number of people killed by the war...is always four to five times lower than the number of people who are actually killed..." | | 43:06 | Misty/Kyle | "They don't see them as human...for decades you've heard rhetoric from Israeli officials saying that when Palestinian mothers give birth, they're giving birth to terrorist snakes." | | 45:07 | Keir Starmer | "I have heard the answer of my parliamentary party...I will resign as leader of the Labour Party." | | 56:24 | Keir Starmer | "Israel must have...that right to defend herself and Hamas bears responsibility." |
The conversation is direct, passionate, and frequently profane, consistent with Jimmy Dore’s style. The hosts and guests employ sharp criticism for both political figures and the media, highlighting hypocrisy (“scumbags”, “giant douche canoe”, “insane”), and urging listeners to remain skeptical of establishment narratives from both sides of the aisle.