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Jimmy Dore
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Roger Waters
Establishment media sucks. August Light and so good luck.
Commentator or Guest (possibly Mike McRae's character)
Bullshit.
Andrew Colvett
We can't afford fomenting this.
Roger Waters
Watch and see as his jack off
Andrew Colvett
the medium speeds and jumps the medium
Kurt
and hits some head down.
Andrew Colvett
It's the Jimmy Door Show.
Jimmy Dore
We've got special guests with us. It's Roger Waters. Everybody knows the legendary founding member of Pink Floyd, a vocal supporter of Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. In July of 2025, he publicly endorsed the band group Palestine Action, an act of defiance against the UK anti terrorism laws that exposed him to. To potential criminal prosecution and up to 14 years in prison. He's currently fundraising for a UK Supreme Court case challenging the refusal of the British government to allow a new investigation into September 11th attacks. Welcome to the show. Roger Waters. Good to see you.
Roger Waters
Good to see you, brother.
Jimmy Dore
Okay, so you've been. Are you actually. Are you afraid that they might put you in jail for endorsing Palestine Action?
Roger Waters
A little bit, yeah. I mean, afraid enough that when I flew in here, which I did like a few days ago, I. I just carried a burner. I didn't bring my phone with me. I didn't bring a laptop, just in case the Old Bill were at the airport, you know, to say, excuse me, sir, would you mind stepping into this room for two or three days so that we can look through all your stuff? So I was that concerned, but they didn't. They couldn't be more polite. And so who knows whether they'll get round to me.
Jimmy Dore
Well, yeah, good luck. They banned a few people I know. Cenk Uygur from Tyt, Hasan, Piker from Twitch. So there's been a lot of not good things and there's a lot of censorship happening in the uk. What are you in.
Kurt
What.
Jimmy Dore
What do you attribute the government's, you know, subservience to the Zionist program?
Roger Waters
Well, isn't that the $60,000 question? You know, it's the question that we've all been asking, scratching our heads for years and years and years. Does it have something to do with usury? I saw an interesting thing on Instagram the other day about the history of the Rothschilds here. Oh, there he goes again. And, you know, because that's one of the things that they're so deadly against Iran is that in Iran, it's illegal to charge interest if you lend anybody any money, it's against the law.
Jimmy Dore
Didn't know that.
Roger Waters
Yeah, well, there you go. You learn something every day and it's what makes the world go round. You know, the Rothschilds backed both the Duke of Wellington and Napoleon at the Battle of Waterloo, so.
Jimmy Dore
So you're telling me that the bankers play both sides in every war?
Roger Waters
Exactly, that's exactly what I'm saying to you. That's exactly what I'm saying. And they make a lot of money. It doesn't matter to them who wins or loses. The main thing is to keep spending the money. The main thing is to keep lending the government's money. I think that's what he particularly, I'm told, figured out. And don't forget, it was the Rothschild that Lord Balfour wrote the letter to back in 1917 where they said, you know, this government looks favorably on the creation of a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine, and so on and so forth. Of course, what they forget to say is that his next sentence was save that it in no way should impact on the civil or religious or any other rights of the. The indigenous people already living there. They seem to have forgotten that a little bit. Now, I don't mean to sound cavalier about it or to joke about it because clearly it's not funny.
Jimmy Dore
Well, you know, what I have been saying at this show is that I knew that Israel was mowing down Palestinians whenever they felt like it, but I didn't realize the whole history, which you just kind of pointed out, because the story was always that Israel was created as a safe haven for Jews after the Holocaust. But of course, the Balfour Declaration, which kind of set up Israel, which kind of gave Palestine in cahoots with the Rothschilds, that happened way before the Holocaust, so. And Zionism has been a project since the least the mid-1800s. And so now I'm coming to realize all this, and I think it's the worst thing for Israel, is that people actually find out how it was founded, why it was founded. I didn't even know about the Nakba. I didn't know any of this stuff until they started slaughtering people after October 7th. Have you known about this all along?
Roger Waters
No, I came to my realization in 2006, in fact, in this, this new song. Maybe that's why we're on your show, is that Mona Miyari, who's a young Palestinian singer, and I have made a. A reimagining of a song of mine from the Wall called Comfortably Numb. And. And so that's why we're doing a lot of publicity at the moment. But in that song, in that song, some of the new lyrics that I've written to Comfortably Numb saying, I never knew or we never knew about the Nakba, I was only 5 years old in 48 going, so you can do the math. I'm 82 years old, so I didn't know that any of that was going on. We were sold the propaganda that Israel was a bunch of healthy socialists with their sleeves rolled up, turning the desert into, you know, arable land and looking after one another and being all kind of democratic about things, when, of course, that had nothing to do with the reality. The reality was that from, as you say, the middle of the 19th century on, there was an absolute determination to steal the land and get rid of all the indigenous people. And they're still trying to do it now. So thank goodness people like you and me and others are standing up and saying, this is wrong. It's only wrong, though, if you believe in human rights.
Kurt
Jimmy.
Roger Waters
They don't, obviously.
Jimmy Dore
Obviously, they don't really consider the Palestinians human. They're even lower than goyim. But, you know, my brother Miles is a huge fan, and he wanted me to ask you this question. Most people say the albums where you were the primary lyric contributor, like the Wall, Final Cut, even Dark side of the Moon, were largely about you working through your childhood war traumas. You were much more of an existential, metaphysical thinker, and you were very prescient about the path the world is taking. Songs like Two Suns and the Sunset and Goodbye Blue sky, both are about humanity destroying itself. What is your view of world events along that line, and how do you think that ties into 911 being an intentional demolition and our Middle east involvement ever since?
Roger Waters
Wow. All right. There's the other big question, isn't it? The 911 question. I mean, since, you know, a few weeks after 911 happened, anybody with an IQ above room temperature started saying, hang on a minute, there's something about this that looks fishy. And there was, and there still is. But I'm prepared to admit that I said almost nothing for years because I understood that I would never be taken seriously about anything. If I started saying, you know, all these physicists and architects who telling us that these were controlled demolitions and have nothing to do with airplanes flying into them or burning jet fuel or any of the rest of the story that we told, we would have been laughed off the face of the earth. But now we have an opportunity in England, which is, I think, that's the reason why we're talking tonight. A friend of mine, Matt Campbell, whose brother Jeff was unlucky enough to be in Building one when the Twin Towers came down. I nearly said fell down. They didn't fall down, were demolished that morning. And he is trying to open an inquest to find out who killed his brother and how. And this is the only legal operation to investigate it. There's no question nobody will ever allow one in the United States, as we know. So England looks like the only chance. So we'll see how we get on that. The hearing is in October and we're fighting all the way to make sure that that happens.
Jimmy Dore
So we're definitely going to get more into that court case. I wanted to play you a video. I don't know if you've ever seen this. It's a couple of minutes long. It was put together by James Corbett and it kind of highlights the absurdities you have to swallow to accept the official story about how those Twin towers and Building 7 came down and the whole 911 story, including the Pentagon. Let's listen to a little bit of this.
James Corbett (voice in video)
On the morning of September 11, 2001, 19 men armed with box cutters, directed by a man on dialysis in a cave fortress halfway around the world, using a satellite phone and a laptop, directed sophisticated penetration of the most heavily defended airspace in the world, overpowering the passengers and the military combat trained pilots on four commercial aircraft before flying those planes wildly off course for over an hour without being molested by a single fighter interceptor. These 19 hijackers, devout religious fundamentalists who like to drink alcohol, snort cocaine and live with pink haired strippers, managed to knock down three buildings with two planes in New York. While in Washington, a pilot who couldn't handle a single engine Cessna was able to fly a 757 in an 8,000 foot descending 270 degree corkscrew turn to come exactly level with the ground hitting the Pentagon in the budget analyst office where DoD staffers were working on the mystery of the $2.3 trillion that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had announced missing from the Pentagon's coffers in a press conference the day before on September 10, 2001. Luckily, the news anchors knew who did it within minutes.
Kurt
Osama bin Laden.
James Corbett (voice in video)
The pundits knew within hours.
Kurt
Osama bin Laden.
James Corbett (voice in video)
The administration knew within the day terrorists
Roger Waters
who committed these acts and those who harbor them.
James Corbett (voice in video)
And the evidence literally fell into the FBI's lap that a hijacker's passport was found blocks from the World Trade center
Witness or Analyst (possibly a legal or investigative figure)
crash site, if you can believe that.
James Corbett (voice in video)
But for some reason a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists demanded an investigation into the greatest attack on American soil in history. That investigation was delayed, underfunded, set up to fail, a conflict of interest and a cover up from start to finish. It was based on testimony extracted through torture, the records of which were destroyed. It failed to mention the existence of WTC 7, Able Danger, P Tech, Sibel, Edmonds, OBL and the CIA. And the drills of hijacked aircraft flown into buildings that were being simulated at the precise same time that those events were actually happening. It was lied to by the Pentagon, the CIA, the Bush administration. And as for Bush and Cheney, well no one knows what they told it because they testified in secret, off the record, not under oath and behind closed doors. It didn't bother to look at who funded the attacks because that question is ultimately of little practical significance. Still, the 911 Commission did brilliantly answering all of the questions the public had except most of the victims family members questions and and pinned blame on all the people responsible. Although no one so much as lost their job determining the attacks were failure of imagination. Because nobody in our government at least,
Jimmy Dore
and I don't think the prior government
Kurt
could envision flying airplanes into buildings except
James Corbett (voice in video)
the Pentagon, FEMA, NORAD and the NRO. The DIA destroyed 2.5 terabytes of data on Able Danger. But that's okay because it probably wasn't important. The SEC destroyed their records on the investigation into the insider trading before the attacks. But that's okay, because destroying the records of the largest investigation in SEC history is just part of routine record keeping. NIST has classified the data that they used for their model of WTC 7's collapse. But that's okay, because knowing how they made their model of the collapse would jeopardize public safety. The FBI has argued that all material related to their investigation of 911 should be kept secret from the public. But that's okay, because the FBI probably has nothing to hide. This man never existed nor is anything he had to say worthy of your attention. And and if you say otherwise, you are a paranoid conspiracy theorist and deserve to be shunned by all of humanity. Likewise him. Him, him and her and her and her and him. If you have any questions about this story, you are a batshit paranoid tinfoil dog abusing baby hater and will be reviled by everyone. If you love your country and or freedom, happiness, rainbows, rock n roll, puppy dogs, apple pie and your grandma, you will never ever express doubts about any part of this story to anyone ever. This has been a public service announcement by the friends of the FBI, CIA, NSA, DIA, SEC, MSM, White House, NIST and the 911 Commission. Because ignorance is strength.
Jimmy Dore
Okay, that was by James Corbett. Great job. Have you ever seen that before?
Roger Waters
Yeah, of course.
Jimmy Dore
Oh yeah, I have.
Roger Waters
I love it.
Jimmy Dore
Fantastic. So the big reason why you're here is because this is the gentleman you were talking about. He is trying to get justice and to get the Britain to open up an investigation into actually what happened on 9 11. And he's got a little video I want to play from him right now.
Matt Campbell
At 8:46 that morning, Jeff's tower was hit about 15 stories below. So he was above the impact point. And as we know, no one above the impact point. The North Tower survived because my brother essentially died an unnatural and violent death by law in the uk, if they were killed abroad and the remains were repatriated by law, they have to have what's called an inquest, essentially investigation into who, where, when and essentially how did that person come about there? Their death? I think no more than two or three minutes was spent on my brother's life and death. There was no investigation whatsoever into what killed my brother and certainly no real attempt, I think, to establish the cause of death for any of the other victims either. But I hadn't really considered the nature of the collapse of the Twin Towers, let alone Building seven. I think that only really came onto my radar probably 2006, 2007. And I think what really caught my attention was the nist, that's the National Institute of Standards and Technologies admission, because I've basically forced to admit it by a high school physics teacher called David Chandler, who challenged them at a draft meeting of their final report. Challenge them that, you know, the building fell at free fall acceleration for at least two and a quarter seconds. And that frankly is just. It's impossible. And I started thinking, okay, I know there's a mechanism to try and get my brother's inquest reopened. And you essentially have to petition the Attorney General for England and Wales showing, for example, insufficiency of inquiry, but also if there's any new evidence. And so we sat and waited for a response from the Attorney General. Typically they normally get back to you in sort of four to six months. They took 22 months eventually before they actually got back to us with initial denial, started the process for judicial review. We applied to the courts. I'd say 50% of their arguments were basically around this peculiar privilege that the Attorney General has which is Almost regal in nature, which is they're immune to judicial review, thankfully, towards the end of last year. So in 2025, the Supreme Court granted our appeal hearing that's now been scheduled for October 14th and 15th of 2026, where we're hoping that the Supreme Court will look at this unresolved issue really, of, you know, should the Attorney General be above the law? I think it's important to investigate all aspects of 911 because of where it's led us and said. And I guess ultimately learn from him. You know, I guess that's. That's the whole point, isn't it?
Jimmy Dore
So he actually has a. Because he has to raise a lot of money to do this. And so they have agreed to, you know, hear his protest against the Attorney General turning it down. And let me see, here it is. Here's his Crowdfunder. It's Crowdfunder.co.uk P9,11 and so if you want. And so do you know how much he needs to raise?
Roger Waters
I know how much. How much he needs to raise. 150 grand. Immediately.
Matt Campbell
Wow.
Roger Waters
Immediately. Listen, I'm going to come clean. I've given him 100 grand because. I know. Because we need to know what happened. We need this not just for Jeff, who I never knew. I met Matt three days ago. You know, we sat down and we talked for quite some time. And he's very, very, as you can see from listening to him talk, he's very together, he's very, very organized. They have a very, very, very. Asking a question on behalf of the whole human race, because these are going to kill us all if we don't demand what we were promised with the 51 articles of the United nations, you know, on the 25th of June in San Francisco in 1945, where we said we could have a world where we won't have any more wars because we will have law and we will abide by it. We'll have the Geneva Conventions and so on. But unfortunately, the ruling class had their fingers crossed behind their back. They never believed a word of it from the start. I know I'm ranting a bit.
Jimmy Dore
No, go ahead.
Roger Waters
I can't help it. I feel so passionately about this because we, the ordinary people all over the world, all of us want that world with no war, where we can bring up our children and where it is a natural human right to have a roof over our heads and not to be murdered by our governments or by somebody else's government. I mean, Matt's brother was murdered probably by the government of the United States. There, I've said it. I mean, you know, when you, you say, well, how did the buildings get demolished? Who put the explosives in them that made them free fall for two seconds, killing his brother and 3,000 other innocent people who were in the towers? And why were there no fighter jets in the sky that day? Why had they all been sent to Canada by Dick Cheney? That's. I mean, I'm only telling you stories that I've heard because I've done a little bit of research. It's hard to do research because this is something that you can't talk about because the crime is so heinous. It's what Wesley Clark discovered when he went into the Pentagon and spoke to Paul Wolfowitz that day. And the guy who showed him the papers saying, we're going to destroy seven countries in the next five years, well, there's only Lebanon and Iran left. The other five are gone. I know it took them 25 years, not five years, but nevertheless. And we, the people, we want this planet to survive, and it won't unless we call these people, under the law, under international law, to account. Somebody has to account for Jeff's death, Jeff Campbell's death. And I applaud his brother for taking. And I have helped him. And I want more people to join this crowdfunder. Come on, guys, just dip into your back pocket a little bit. Let's. Sorry.
Jimmy Dore
No, no. This is the greatest opportunity to get an actual inquiry into what happened because as that video pointed out, the official inquiry, the 911 report was, was a charade. It was. It was again, underfunded. It was set up to fail. Everybody who's written and was a part of it has denounced it. They were lied to by the CIA. They were lied to by the Pentagon. Everybody lied to them. And Dick Cheney and George Bush wouldn't even go on oath to testify about it. So. And they did. Like I said, they did it behind closed doors and they had to be together to do it. They wouldn't even do it individually. So. And you know what I've learned in the short time doing the show that I'm doing is that whenever the establishment makes it toxic for you to ask a question about something important, that they're covering up stuff, whether it be 9 11, whether it be Seth Rich, whether it be Covid, whatever it is, if you're not allowed to ask a question about it, that means that they're covering something up. And would you agree with that?
Roger Waters
Absolutely, 100%. And because they control the mainstream media Entirely through Murdoch and this and now through Meta. You know, the world is run for the benefit of and by Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos and those billion zillionaire, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, all of those zillionaires, right, they now control. They've bought the government. Everybody knows that. It's not just aipac, it's not just the Rothschilds who bought Congress and are allowing the genocide to go on in Palestine and who obviously allow. Have allowed the 911 to remain a mystery for everybody who might care about it, including Matt Campbell. You know, so we know all of this. It's all. But so how can we make our voice, the voice of the choir, loud enough that. That we can get our side heard? All we want is the truth, nothing else. I know I'm sounding a bit John Lennon now, but give peace a chance. Let's hear some truth. Let's hear truth about 9 11. Let's absolutely demand that there is an investigation into what actually happened and who killed Jeff Campbell and the other 3,000 people. And all those firemen, all those brave, heroic people who went in there to help, and they were all killed as well. And all the people who've come out of the woodworks in, like, the fire chief from Brooklyn, I can't remember his name now, a few years, somehow they get. Whoa, we don't want to hear about it. Yeah, we know it was. We know. We know they needed a Pearl harbor and that was it. So 3,000 people died. They couldn't care less. 3,000 lives, who cares? They want to go on controlling the world, and the way they do it is by insisting on a state of perpetual war. And it's a war between the rich and the poor. You know, it just is. So, yeah, we need to. We need to amplify Matt's voice, please. And thank you, Jimmy, for having him on and having me on as well, too.
Jimmy Dore
My. My pleasure. And, you know, you brought up General Wesley Clark's admission that when he went into the Pentagon after 9 11, they had already showed him they had plans to go into Libya, to go into Syria, to go into Iraq, to go into Lebanon, to go into Iran, Somalia. They did all those, except right now, the last two were Iran and Lebanon, which they're trying to do right now. But even bigger, what they first had to get Christians or people in the west to believe that their mortal enemies were Muslims. And, you know, recently Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly have come out and apologize because they bought that propaganda and they now realize that they Were, you know, that's basically Zionist propaganda. The Zionists got Christians to fight their wars against Muslims and for them, for the Zionists. And that's what it looks like to me because that's exactly. You know, they knew they were never going to give Palestine a state, and so they need to. They needed to dismember and overthrow every Arab country around them so they couldn't come to the defense of Palestine. And that's what it seems like to me. Does it seem like that to you? Did this go back to Israel?
Roger Waters
Yeah, well, yeah. Well, at the end of the day, it looks as if it all comes down to oil and natural resources and the old European imperial idea that the world is there for the taking. And so for 500 years, Europeans, from Magellan on and Captain Cook and the rest of it, and whoever crossed, you know, in 1642 and when they discovered the new. Funnily enough, when the Pilgrim Fathers landed in Maryland or wherever they landed, Plymouth Rock, they said, this is Zion. It was their Zion. And they came into North America and let's not scrub this under the carpet. And killed everyone. The numbers were not quite sure because nobody ever counted the heads of all the indigenous people that they murdered as they crossed the country, but they did. And so we need to look at ourselves, particularly if we call ourselves as a Christian or they people here.
Andrew Colvett
I'm not.
Roger Waters
I'm an atheist, but people call themselves Christian. Why don't you follow the teachings of Jesus Christ then? I believe he threw the money lenders out of the temple, didn't he? Wasn't that why they crucified him? Because he didn't believe in usury and he didn't believe in the Rothschilds. He didn't believe in investing in the rape and pillage of foreign countries for the benefit of the very rich, because ordinary people don't benefit from this. You try out, go out and buy a dozen eggs or a bottle of milk or anything in North America. Now you can't. Or try and buy a house if you're a young person or rent a flat or any. Nobody can afford anything. Why? Because Mark Zuckerberg's got it all and Donald Trump and the rest of them. And that's what's happened.
Jimmy Dore
And now we have. And now we have a trillionaire. Trillionaire. Elon Musk.
Roger Waters
Yeah. So a trillionaire. Brilliant.
Jimmy Dore
What do you think the. What do you feel the intention or the end game is? You know, considering your lyrics that you wrote, what do you. What do you think the end game is? That your Lyrics suggested we're on the road to destruction. What is the end game for the establishment or the WTF billionaire class the
Roger Waters
end game for them? You know, the only thing that you can see is. Or that may be there is that it's a bit like what's her name? Ivanka is buying up Albania now to build an underground shelter where she can live in luxury when the world blows up. They're now looking. I believe this is the whole Musk thing about let's get starships and all go and all go. What are you talking about? Do you know, I met him once. I met Elon Musk once, about 15, 20 years ago. Somebody invited me to a party for my sins. I was in some parts, yes. I used to go to St. Barts sometimes around Christmas, having a. Oh, you got to meet this guy. He's brilliant. And he forced me to sit down with Elon Musk. He's a complete idiot. And people go, how can he be an idiot and be a trillionaire? Well, he's the living proof that you can be a complete moron. And I mean, maybe he has. No, he doesn't have an iq. All the business. It's like Trump, all the businesses fail. He couldn't even run a casino. Donald Trump, he's failed constantly his entire life. Anyway, I've got off track a bit. We the people want to know the truth. What happened on 11 September 2001 in downtown New York City? What happened?
Jimmy Dore
Please, let me just get Final question and I'll let you go. I appreciate you taking time. I know it's late in the uk, so I really do appreciate this. And another question from my brother Miles, another brick in the wall. You say we don't need no education, we don't need no thought control. What do you think are the forms of thought control that are being used in our societies to keep us sheep from the Animals album in line? And who do you see are the dogs in our world, the ones who keep the sheep in line?
Roger Waters
Well, the dogs, I guess they're those idiot cops in New York City beating the people in Columbia University, standing up for the rights of their brothers and sisters in Palestine with clubs sent in with their mace and this and that and the other and accusing them of being anti Semites. They're not anti Semites, you morons. They're people who believe in human rights. They're protesting and for the human rights of their brothers and sisters. So they're the dogs. And what did you want to know about the others? I mean, yeah. What did I have in the thing? Yeah. Dogs. Sheep.
Jimmy Dore
What?
Roger Waters
The pigs.
Jimmy Dore
Okay.
Roger Waters
Elon Musk is a pig. Trump is a pig. Bill Gates is a pig. The rich ruling class, they're the pigs. It's exactly like in Animal Farm in George Orwell's, you know, short novel Animal Farm. The pigs, they're the ones who steal everything and rule everything, are those people.
Jimmy Dore
And the thought control, would you say, is the media. And now the billionaire owned social media, Right?
Roger Waters
Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And it's getting harder and harder and harder to combat it. And now that we see. Now that we can all see in front of it, even those. Even if the media is trying to tell us the opposite is true, we can see these data centers that are supporting Meta and the whole AI explosion of data farming and data, this thing and data. They all absolutely admit that it's completely untenable. It's using all the water and all the electricity just to make Mark Zuckerberg richer. That's what they're doing it for. And to control us all so that we never open our mouths, so that Jimmy Dore doesn't exist. Roger Waters isn't allowed to make records anymore because Daniel. Actually, nobody's allowed to make records because Daniel Ek has stolen all the music. And they can make music anyway using AI. You go to Claude or whatever it's called, and write me a song in the style of Roger Waters in the Pink Floyd golden years. And he'll do it. They'll do it. And unfortunately, they'll then tell all the people who subscribe to Spotify, by the way, stop subscribing to Spotify. How dare you? What you're doing is removing music from our lives. You're removing the creative process of writing music from all of our lives by saying, I don't care about it. I don't care what human beings think or feel. I don't care about Neil Young or John Lennon or Joni Mitchell or any of the music, any of the great music or Bach or Beethoven or anything. I'm quite happy for it to be done by a machine. All right? Because it's all blah, blah, blah. And I'm. And I've been brought up to not give a. What it is or whether it's about anything or so. So, yeah, so we live in a very, very difficult and dangerous time. And we're right on the curse, which is why we must support Matt and why we, you know, and why we have to join together and raise our voices. Because it's only from a mass. Mass mass movement when the sound of the voices in the choir drowns out all the Rupert Murdoch, Murdochs and New York Timess and Fox News is and all the rest of them. And our voice becomes loud enough and we start looking after our brothers and sisters, not just in Palestine, but all over the world, including here, including in the United States of America and in Great Britain, where the people are being royally fucked by them. So we have to fight back. That's all I'm saying.
Jimmy Dore
And this is a great way to do it. Crowdfunder.co.uk P911 it would, it would be amazing to see this happen and I'm glad you're supporting it. Thank you so much More. So much for doing that. So what is this? This is the event that you're both doing in September. Oh, and on September in New York, we're both doing turnthetide.911.org so I'll be there maybe. Hopefully we'll get a. I'll get a chance to meet you. That would be a big thrill for me. So that'll be shake hands. Yes. So that'll be this September in New York. And I really appreciate you getting behind this inquiry. And if it happens, it could be a real watershed moment for the Western world. So thanks again for doing that and thanks for staying up late and taking time for our show. I really appreciate it. See you in September, brother.
Roger Waters
See you in September. Thank you very much. It's been a pleasure.
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Kurt
Welcome back to the Jimmy Dore show, everybody. Keaton and Kurt in for Jimmy. More stuff from the Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing. Phantom pain says something doesn't add up. In the official story, Lance Twigs testified he had never heard Tyler Robinson talk about Charlie Kirk. Then suddenly after the shooting, we're told Tyler left behind a trail of messages and discord. Conversations and a written note. Never discussed it. Then documented everything clearly fed slob.
Witness or Analyst (possibly a legal or investigative figure)
Let's take a look we ever talk about Charlie Kirk? I personally had never heard him talk about Charlie Kirk before specifically. Ever talked about politics? He did. More than me. I didn't really. Still don't really keep up with. With politics very much. He'd usually talk about stuff he heard on the radio on his drive to work in like their work car since it sounds like their whole crew went in the same car most of the time. But I wouldn't say super consistently because it wasn't a topic I really contributed much on. About Charlie Kirk. Did he ever talk about Charlie Kirk? I personally had never heard of him talk about Charlie Kirk before specifically.
Kurt
Oof.
Andrew Colvett
Weird.
Kurt
Definitely.
Andrew Colvett
I'm a bewildered Andrew Cole that now. Well, that's weird. I have a lot of questions about that.
Kurt
Yeah. Yeah, there you go. That's your bewildered Andrew Colvett face with your Andrew Colvett hair.
Andrew Colvett
I mean, like what? It's like they didn't even talk about Charlie. That's so strange.
Kurt
Never mentioned them at all until apparently after the fact when those text messages surfaced.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, I heard he's not even gay.
Kurt
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Lance Twig says. Candace Owens says he never heard Tyler talk about Charlie Kirk or LGBTQ issues. But we're supposed to believe he jumped one. Jumped up one day and decided to try on an assassination over those exact issues after never committing any crimes in his life. I cannot bear the Fed slope any longer. Yeah, it doesn't. Doesn't look any better, I gotta say. For the official story here.
Andrew Colvett
What does he got on his head?
Kurt
Yeah, who the hell knows? Sam Parker says. So let me get this straight. Lance Twigs's DNA was on the towel and screwdriver. Lance has the same pair of Converses as Tyler. Lance has access to the discord and Tyler's computer. Lance allegedly found the confession note which no longer exists from an 11:00pm automated scheduled text from. From Tyler. And now we also find out the Dremel that Tyler allegedly used to engrave the bullets was Lances weird. Did I hear that right? Let's take a look.
Witness or Analyst (possibly a legal or investigative figure)
Bullets. Was he engraving bullets before this? Yeah, I don't remember exactly when, but he had said he was planning to go hunting with his family and he asked me for a. If we had like a Dremel to. Because he said he wanted to create messages on bullets. And I just told him where Dremel was and told him to make sure he doesn't like set off a bullet on accident in the house. But I didn't really think about it until then and I just told him where Dremel was.
Andrew Colvett
And oh, I heard there's militant queers that are dremeling their bullets. So that's weird.
Kurt
Well, in the previous segment, you know, we heard Andrew Colvitt say he want. He was curious as to Lance Twiggs's involvement, suggesting he may have been a co conspirator. Now, Lance Twigs, if I can ask you, has been granted some kind of immunity in this case, is that correct?
Andrew Colvett
I know I don't know why. And I'd like to know why. I would like to know why.
Witness or Analyst (possibly a legal or investigative figure)
Charlie Kirk, I personally had never heard him talk about Charlie Kirk before. Specifically bullets before this.
Andrew Colvett
You know what else is weird? Me and like three other TPUSA people met with the Tyler, the guy like just for the alleged shooting. Is that weird?
Kurt
That seems weird to me.
Andrew Colvett
I don't know why. I'd like to know.
Kurt
You'd like to know why? You'd like to know why?
Andrew Colvett
Yeah.
Kurt
Lance Twigs. Candace Owens has wants us to believe that the biggest assassination since JFK happened in his backyard. He received a mysterious note under his keyboard plus a stunning full fledged confession. But he chose not to follow the case much and didn't see the released FBI images until later. He has also shown the staircase images and says it looks like Tyler Robinson in terms of his shoes and jeans. Stuff he would wear. Wow, what an amazingly solid means of identification. Definitely his shoes and he liked wearing jeans. I cannot wait until this obvious fed asset is allowed to be cross examined from the defense. Do you think that's going to happen? Do you think that's like. And when would that happen? Would that happen at a preliminary hearing or would that happen at the trial?
Andrew Colvett
Trial, it's just the preliminary.
Kurt
Yeah, this is just a preliminary hearing.
Andrew Colvett
I have so many questions. I mean I hope there's a trial because I have so many questions from just the preliminary hearing.
Kurt
Well, I guess there's, I mean there is a trial until. Unless he enters some kind of plea. That's how it would get out of trial, right? Is if you take some kind of deal. But they're not going to offer that.
Andrew Colvett
And why did Mikey McCoy call Erica right after the shooting? That's so weird. I was like, Mikey, why'd you do that? And he was like, I know, right? It's so weird.
Kurt
The patriotic blonde says forensic analysis concluded that the major bullet fragment retrieved from Charlie Kirk's body could not be conclusively matched to the rifle allegedly used in the shooting of Charlie Kirk. This is a bombshell, says the patriotic blonde. This was tweeted out Yesterday, four o'.
Witness or Analyst (possibly a legal or investigative figure)
Clock. Number six. What was. What is Exhibit six?
Legal Expert or Court Reporter
Exhibit six is the bullet fragment, or, sorry, the bullet jacket fragment, as well as some other fragments that were recovered from Mr. Kirk at the time of autopsy.
Witness or Analyst (possibly a legal or investigative figure)
Thank you. Going Back to page two, will you read the first full paragraph graph there, beginning with exhibit six.
Legal Expert or Court Reporter
Yes. Exhibit six consists of one.30 caliber class deformed damage bullet jacket fragment and four lead fragments.
Witness or Analyst (possibly a legal or investigative figure)
Will you read the next paragraph as well?
Legal Expert or Court Reporter
The Exhibit 6, a bubble jacket fragment cannot be identified or excluded as having been fired from the Exhibit 1 rifle based on an agreement of all discernible class characteristics and neither sufficient agreement nor sufficient disagreement of individual characteristics. The results of the comparison was inconclusive.
Andrew Colvett
What?
Kurt
Inconclusive. Oh, wow.
Andrew Colvett
That's a bombshell, dude.
Kurt
Yeah, yeah. Maybe look into that. You know, with. When on the day he was shot. The first thing that made me think something was weird is. Is when we found out George Zinn didn't do it. Like if there's a guy standing up screaming, shoot me, shoot me, shoot me. And about an hour, as I remember transpired, between the time when it seemed like he was the killer and. And the time that they said, actually, no, he isn't. I mean, right then and there I said, oh boy, something. Something must be up here.
Andrew Colvett
You know what else they said? That somebody hit the time display on the screen on his phone. It can't just turn it sideways.
Kurt
Yeah, well, this is what this says right here. How absolutely unfortunate that the damage to Lance Twigs his phone screen is nearly perfect. Circle exactly over the time display. Totally freak accident, I'm sure. How would one even go about trying to reproduce damage?
Andrew Colvett
Yeah, or turn the phone this way and you can get the time on.
Kurt
That's true. You could get the time on the other side if anybody tell them that.
Andrew Colvett
That's so weird.
Kurt
That is. That is true. You know, I didn't even think of that, Kurt.
Andrew Colvett
Well, these are questions I have.
Kurt
Yeah, well, you should ask these questions. You're on top of things. I didn't even think of that. You could. You could change the orientation of the phone.
Andrew Colvett
Why did Erica take over TPUSA after saying all that trash? That's the thing. I wonder over TP USA why it's so weird.
Kurt
All these organizations are very trad organizations, you know, none of these organizations are full of people who don't live the lifestyles that they advertise, you know?
Andrew Colvett
You know, we used to have an orgy after tpusa. Every tpusa.
Kurt
Well, it's just like Hollywood you know, the cast of Little House on the Prairie, that's how they lived in real life. They lived out at the other orgy. Yeah. They made butter. They made milk. Yeah.
Andrew Colvett
They had Judeo Christian values.
Kurt
Well, yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah. Little House on the Prairie, those Judeo Christian values on the.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah.
Kurt
On the Prairie. Yes. Candace Owens says
Andrew Colvett
Christian Values on the Prairie is my favorite show.
Kurt
Yeah, that should be. They should remake that show. Judeo Christian Values on the Prairie. Yes. There are so many devastating points to the Tyler Robinson narrative, but chief among them is Lance Twiggs is testifying that Tyler wasn't political, didn't ever speak to him about LBGTQ issues or gender identity issues. And also alluding to the fact that he is not trans. He goes by Luna, but he says it is not a female identity. I mean, I don't. I can't. How am I going to argue with that? What the hell do I know?
Andrew Colvett
Sauna, bro.
Witness or Analyst (possibly a legal or investigative figure)
I know.
Andrew Colvett
Is that weird, though, or Persona?
Kurt
He goes by Luna, but it's not a female identity. So he's a.
Andrew Colvett
It means moon.
Kurt
That's a they them. But it's more specific than a they them. Right. There's a subsection of the they. Then that's a Luna. All right, all right. For months, the Satanists have been trying to convince you that Tyler was so motivated by politics and trans ideology that he decided to murder Charlie Kirk for trans viewpoints that Tyler held so dearly, he never even expressed them to his boyfriend until a stunning text message confession after the murder, shown to us via a picture on Lance's phone, which just happened to be smashed in the very corner that would allow us to verify what time these photos were taken. This is all very dangerous. The government is playing a very dangerous game here with this trial. The illusion of democracy and a social contract is being completely evaporated. Well, that's been. That's. That ship has sailed, I think, quite some time ago, but all right.
Andrew Colvett
Oh, another weird thing is we had a meeting with Bill Ackman, tpusa, and he, like, ate a baby. At the time, I didn't think a lot of it, but, like, now I'm like, that's weird.
Kurt
That was Judeo Christian values. At.
Andrew Colvett
He goes, judeo Christian values. I was like, is that what that means? That's so weird.
Kurt
Judeo Christian values on Montauk. That's it.
Andrew Colvett
I didn't want to ask because it's, like, not cool, you know, because Erica, she's a widow.
Kurt
We are not supposed to know that our government is capable of this level of violence and psychological delusion. Well, I mean, it is and it always has been. And this is what's coming to light in more ways, more examples than just this trial. I think this is like one of these things that you're seeing now just kind of all across the board. I think the genocide in Gaza was a huge part.
Andrew Colvett
Kind of a massive one.
Kurt
Yeah, kind of a massive one. Kind of a massive one.
Andrew Colvett
Me, not the. Not Kurt Kohlvet from tpusa, but me, Kirb Mebsker. I'm prejudice against Arabs naturally, and Muslim prejudice against them. Do you understand? See how bad Israel cocked up that I am now fully on the side of the Arabs. You know how bad you messed up? That's not my fault. That's Israel's fault. You lost a prejudice guy. How do you do that unless you suck ass?
Kurt
Yeah, yeah.
Andrew Colvett
Maybe more pushy. Maybe try that.
Kurt
Yeah, right, exactly. I mean, when you look back at the other segment that we did about Andrew Clovet saying now he has questions about other people's involvement in this, perhaps even Lance Twigs involvement in this, I think that could be a way of admitting that this speculation is valid without acquitting Tyler Robinson. Like that kind of gives you the best of both worlds from a PR standpoint, which was always my suspicion. My suspicion was never, and I don't know. And just like I said, full disclosure, I have not followed this case as closely as Jimmy has here on the show. But my suspicion was not so much that Tyler Robinson had absolutely nothing to do with it, but that he is a part of a conspiracy or a patsy or a fall guy or somebody you plant on the roof. Just like in Butler, Pennsylvania. You know that kid that they had there up on the roof there. I forget his name, which right away, that shows you something's weird, that you forget the name of the. Yeah. Thomas Crooks.
Andrew Colvett
Hey. What his parents did for a living. Do you.
Kurt
No, I don't know what his parents
Andrew Colvett
did for a living. Well, they are. We don't know where they are. We don't have heard from them. But behavioral modification therapists. So here's what that means, translated MK Ultra automatically. That's what that means. Behavioral modification. That's the B.F. skinner torture box.
Commentator or Guest (possibly Mike McRae's character)
Right.
Andrew Colvett
All the stuff they learned From World War I on is what they use for that kind of mind control. And that's what they do to make assassins and Manchurian candidates. And anytime you hear that, that's the most suspicious thing you've. That and having a therapist who was in the CIA or like a personal trainer who was in the CIA. In the case of Kanye, who can. Who has power of attorney over him? But nobody questions that. That's not weird to anybody.
Kurt
What was something like that? Like, you could plant a shooter on a roof, and then if someone else fires the shot, Secret Service fires back at the patsy. And there you go. You have your dead body.
Andrew Colvett
You know what else is weird? Who knows?
Kurt
If this guy wasn't supposed to be that it could have been something like that that went wrong because he got away.
Andrew Colvett
He was supposed to die in the shootout with the cops. And that's what I think by not going in. But. But you couldn't fire the gun. We still haven't heard the answer of how the hell you would actually bolt the gun with that scope on top of it. That prevents you from. Because the picture of the gun from the crime that the FBI has. You couldn't have fired the gun physically. So that's a little weird.
Kurt
Yeah, I don't know.
Andrew Colvett
I just have questions about it, you
Kurt
know, a lot of questions. Well, there you go. Yeah. I hope Jimmy is back in time for the trial because he is better suited to address these. Address your address, your question than I am, sir. Yeah.
Andrew Colvett
Answers to questions. And I would love to ask some questions blaming me and Erica Kirk with crazy talk, but I would love to know Lance Twigs. Is that even a real name? Sounds weird.
Kurt
Lance Twigs.
Andrew Colvett
Yeah.
Kurt
Sees Luna, right?
Andrew Colvett
Luna the Bear. Lone wolf. That's some furry Persona.
Kurt
Yeah.
Andrew Colvett
You have to be completely checked out of everything to believe this story. Or a liar like Tim Pool. Or a deliberate scumbag liar like Tim Pool. I mean, it's such a tragedy a guy with such a great band is so bad with his politics, isn't it? Yeah, you just make great music that everybody loves. But he's got to do these weird lies for our greatest ally.
Kurt
It's like Kiss. Like Gene Simmons, you know.
Andrew Colvett
Oh, just real quality.
Kurt
Yeah, real quality. Real quality. Artists with bad.
Andrew Colvett
You can see why he's better than 6,000 women. Like a Nephilim.
Kurt
Exactly. Exactly. All right, well, hold on to your questions, sir. We'll try and get them answered as soon as we can. Welcome to the Jimmy Door show, everybody. Keaton and Kurt here while Jimmy is away. This is a quick one, but I think it's an important one. Israel exposed tweets out. It took a little longer than expected, but we have created a website for people to view the footage collected from. From Gaza in one place. You no longer have to Download the entire archives to see them. It includes 64,000 plus videos, 17,000 plus photos, the ability to download individual videos, a searchable index, exhaustive sources, list of over 300 journalists, geolocation data, live map with minute to minute updates and a victim list. It can be accessed here at Archive Genocide. Now, we're not going to show you any of the footage here. I don't know that we can on YouTube. I wouldn't show it to you even if I could. I think it's up to you to pick what you would like to expose yourself to or not expose yourself to. It's obviously extraordinarily upsetting and disturbing and they even blurred out the images for the tweet. But essentially this was created in response to the censorship and suppression of the evidence of the genocide in Gaza. And this is, this is a necessary thing to do in response to social media censorship because, you know, as much as we like to call ourselves independent media, here, we are operating on platforms that have rules and those rules are often enforced arbitrarily. And so in order to preserve this evidence, you have to go outside social media. And they created a website so they continue on. Please share and quote tweet to help this post break out of the Twitter algorithm. Prison. We will keep adding the rest of the archives to the site. Be patient, it is difficult work. Continue to send the torrents provided as that is the best way to ensure the footage remains stored in decentralized way. God bless all those who sacrifice their lives to get this footage out and everyone involved in collecting and archiving it. And there's links to their Telegram and their social media accounts. At the time I screenshotted this, this had over 17 million views. So it is getting out there on social media, but it is a website archive, genocide.com and it is open sourced. So apparently a lot of the material is available for download so that in case they run into a problem with their server or whoever, it can be preserved. But once again, this is done in response to a lot of social media suppression, especially on the Zuckerberg platforms. Here. Leaked data reveals massive Israeli campaign to remove pro Palestine posts on Facebook and Instagram. This just came out a couple weeks ago. Israel asked Facebook to censor Iran war content. Internal documents show company records reviewed by the Intercept show Israel urged Facebook and Instagram to take down posts supportive of Iran. Twitter is suffocating us. A call for solidarity from the Palestine Chronicle. So there is suppression and censorship on X as well. And of course, censorship of the most brutal kind. Global investigative Journalism Network posts how Israel's unprecedented killing of Palestinian journalists in Gaza makes accountability reporting almost impossible. Hundreds of journalists killed. More journalists killed in Gaza than in the first two world wars combined. And here's Jewish Democrats. Jake Ochen Kloss calls for censorship on social media to fight against anti Semitism. So the censorship will continue on these platforms.
Commentator or Guest (possibly Mike McRae's character)
As we know, the mushrooming of anti Semitism within the Democratic Party, which is a problem. I reject it within the Republican Party, where it is a problem. You saw Tom Massey run ads with Star of David behind his opponent. You see Brandon Herrera in Texas wallowing in Nazi iconography.
Kurt
You can't make the Star of David the flag of your state and then complain when people portray it in a negative light in response to a genocide. Star of Jeffrey antisemitism. That's a depiction of the Israeli flag. Okay? I mean, it's just amazing how they go out of their way to equate Judaism and Zionism. And then this is the trick that they always pull. If they make their flag the Star of David, then you can't make a statement against them without attacking all Jews.
Commentator or Guest (possibly Mike McRae's character)
I reject the mushroom ring of anti Semitism within the Democratic Party, which is a problem. I reject it within the Republican Party, where it is a problem. You saw Tom Massie run ads with Star of David behind his opponent. You see Brandon Herrera in Texas wallowing in Nazi iconography. It's a huge issue on both sides. We have to condemn it on both sides. And I've done that clearly and unequivocally for the last five years. We also have to look at the fundamental drivers of anti Semitism, which I believe is social media in general. Scapegoat. Scapegoating of Jews happens in failed societies. It happens when the pathologies of the moment are turned against the other. And right now we're seeing anti Semitism mushroom on social media because it's a failed society. There's no norms, there's toxicity. And we have to hold Meta and TikTok and Insta and Snap and the rest of them accountable for the corrosion that they are platforming.
Kurt
Yeah, I mean, that is just from. From outer space. The, the criticisms are of the Israeli state. There's no scapegoating Jews for anything. The kind of censorship that he's talking about is, is censorship of content related to the genocide in Gaza, the incursions, the genocidal incursions into Lebanon and of course, the war in Iran. And now he's saying that we have to hold social media companies accountable. I mean, we already saw so much of this during the Biden years where the, the government leaned directly on these social media companies to censor certain content. And so you know, this is, this is not a Democrat or Republican thing. Both of these, these parties are, are extremely censor happy when they're in power. Oddly enough, you know, everybody's for, for free speech when they're out of power because they use speech to gain power. And then when they gain power they're not, not so much for free speech anymore.
Andrew Colvett
Well, I forgot about that and I've moved on to the next thing. I'm not black pilled and I'm being positive and Israel and something is real. Communism is our greatest enemy.
Jimmy Dore
That's right.
Commentator or Guest (possibly Mike McRae's character)
We're seeing anti Semitism mushroom on social media because it's a failed society. There's no norms, there's toxicity and we have to hold Meta and Tick Tock and Insta and Snap and the rest of them accountable for the corrosion that they are platforming.
Witness or Analyst (possibly a legal or investigative figure)
Yeah.
Kurt
So you know.
Andrew Colvett
Oh, but that's the woke. The woke white is doing that. Not the, not the. That's a really amazing thing to say. Woke. Right from far right. Ashkenazi. That's just like my favorite. Oh my God, I did Israeli go for 10 years and I'll never forget because you know, I knew more about the Bible than she did. She didn't. It was just a ethnic thing with her family. They didn't bother teaching any of it, but they were virulently racist at a deep core level that you could mistake for religion had October 7th not happen. But now looking back, I realize it's actually total racism is what it is. It's actually quite amazing.
Kurt
Of course. Absolutely.
Andrew Colvett
It rivals Great Britain.
Kurt
Racism. Yeah. Oh, 100%. 100%. No question about it. You know, X is the number one news app in, in the country and news breaks fastest there. And so people get into the habit of just scrolling your Twitter feed to get news. But it is important to diversify where you get news from. And so they created this old fashioned thing called a website to try and censor proof this evidence of these grotesque crimes. So if you would like to go and check it out, do be cautioned. It is extremely upsetting, obviously. But that is, that is a worthwhile project that they started. And so I thought we should, we should shout it out here and let everybody know about it.
Jimmy Dore
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Commentator or Guest (possibly Mike McRae's character)
Don't freak out.
Jimmy Dore
Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Do not freak out.
James Corbett (voice in video)
I'm not kidding.
Commentator or Guest (possibly Mike McRae's character)
Do not.
Legal Expert or Court Reporter
Do not.
James Corbett (voice in video)
I'm not.
Jimmy Dore
I'm not. I'm not.
Commentator or Guest (possibly Mike McRae's character)
I'm not.
Jimmy Dore
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Andrew Colvett
I'm not.
Legal Expert or Court Reporter
Freak out.
Jimmy Dore
Don't freak out. Do not freak out.
Podcast Summary: The Jimmy Dore Show – "Roger Waters' BRILLIANT PLAN to Force 911 Inquiry!"
Date: July 13, 2026
This episode features an in-depth discussion between host Jimmy Dore and guest Roger Waters (co-founder of Pink Floyd and activist) about Waters’ campaign to force a new UK investigation into the September 11th attacks. The conversation covers censorship, historical context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the mainstream media’s role in shaping narratives, and the global implications of official stories left unexamined. The episode also spotlights a UK Supreme Court case—sparked by the efforts of Matt Campbell, whose brother died on 9/11—as a unique and critical opportunity for real accountability.
Later portions of the show tackle the Tyler Robinson/Charlie Kirk case, the effectiveness and integrity of the official narrative, broader media censorship (especially around Gaza), and the political climate around free speech and establishment power.
Tone: Outspoken, skeptical, passionate, irreverent, and activist-minded.
Waters delves into the roots of Israeli statehood, the implications of Zionism, and the role of wealth, power, and the financial elite (notably, the Rothschilds). He connects this history to the present conflict and global subservience to wealthy interests.
Jimmy Dore reflects on how more Americans are slowly waking up to the true, often-suppressed, history and ongoing reality of Israeli policies.
Both speakers denounce the consolidation of media and information flow under a handful of billionaires (Zuckerberg, Bezos, Musk, Gates), arguing that this enables mass thought control and suppresses meaningful dissent.
Waters explores how music, creative arts, and even protest are being commodified or co-opted, thus losing power as vehicles for change.
A video by James Corbett satirizes the official 9/11 narrative, emphasizing its improbabilities and the suppression of dissenting experts.
Matt Campbell segment [14:09–17:11]: Details on his brother’s death, challenges to the UK’s minimal inquest, the legal battle for a judicial review, and the significance of the October 2026 Supreme Court hearing.
Dore probes the themes of Waters’ music and worldview—existential, skeptical, concerned with humanity’s self-destructive impulses.
Waters reflects on the “dogs,” “sheep,” and “pigs” from his Animals album:
The endgame for the billionaire class, according to Waters, is escape (luxury bunkers, leaving Earth), while the masses are left to self-destruct.
Roger Waters on Controlled Narratives and Suppression
Jimmy Dore on Official Silence
Roger Waters on the Wealthy Elite:
James Corbett, satirizing the 9/11 official story
On Social Media & Censorship
The centerpiece of the episode is a rallying cry for greater public involvement and scrutiny of official narratives, with the UK’s pending decision on a new 9/11 inquiry framed as a rare and vital opportunity for genuine accountability. Waters and Dore repeatedly urge audiences to support Matt Campbell’s crowdfunding effort (Crowdfunder.co.uk/P911) and to amplify alternative voices.
The show ends with continued skepticism of both state and media, calls for civil society to challenge narratives controlled by the wealthy, and reminders that only a mass movement demanding truth can overcome entrenched power.
Final thought:
“We have to fight back. That’s all I’m saying.” – Roger Waters [34:00]
For listeners seeking action: