Secret PAID CAMPAIGN To Smear Candace Owens Over Erika Kirk Criticism!

Summary

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The Jimmy Dore Show – Episode Summary

Episode: Secret PAID CAMPAIGN To Smear Candace Owens Over Erika Kirk Criticism!
Date: February 27, 2026
Host: Jimmy Dore
Key Guest: Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)
Other Voices: Mike McRae as Harrison Ford, Political Commentator(s)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Jimmy Dore delves deep into the recent uproar surrounding Candace Owens’s new investigative series targeting Erika Kirk, widow of the slain Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk. The episode explores the allegations of a coordinated, possibly paid, online smear campaign against Owens, the suspicious circumstances around Charlie Kirk’s assassination, financial motivations, Israel's role, and the mainstream media's complicity in stifling independent investigation.

Jimmy and his guest Baron expose what they see as a “Mockingbird Press 2.0” operation—detailing how social media influencers and right-wing personalities were issued talking points to attack Candace Owens and protect Erika Kirk. The show also draws striking parallels to broader themes of government cover-ups, neoliberal warmongering, and how both political parties in the US enable foreign policy disasters, all the while ignoring or distorting truth for power and profit.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Candace Owens’s Investigative Series & Immediate Backlash

• Jimmy Dore introduces Candace Owens’s new series that promises to “expose who Erika Kirk really is,” describing it as a hostile act against one of the GOP’s most powerful insiders (00:21).
• Owens’s promo is allegedly met with a swift, coordinated online attack branding her as “demonic” and “evil,” which Dore sees as evidence of a paid/protective operation (01:59–03:00).
• Jimmy questions: “If Candace Owens was completely crazy, or evil, why would anyone care? But the fact is she's not. And she's caught them in multiple, multiple, multiple lies. And you don't lie unless you're covering up something.” (02:17)

2. Allegations of a Paid/Coordinated Smear Campaign Against Owens

• The episode spotlights an alleged leaked memo directing prominent social media accounts to promote verbatim negative language against Owens (e.g. “Candace Owens is a demon,” “pure evil,” “satanic”), reinforcing the impression of a “Mockingbird Press” operation (03:00–06:30).
• Numerous influencers tweet nearly identical attacks, which is dissected as linguistic homogenization—clear evidence, says Jimmy, of “astroturfing and narrative manipulation” (04:10, 14:00).
• Jimmy: “You don't even know that you're saboteurs of your own side. You're doing the bidding of Israel. Keep up the bad work, everybody.” (02:45)
• Matt Wallace admits on Twitter to being offered money to smear Owens, further fueling the narrative of a manufactured campaign (12:00).

3. Dissecting the Charlie Kirk Assassination and Financial/Motivational Angles

• Jimmy and Baron link Erika Kirk's rapid rise and TPUSA’s record fundraising (“over $200 million now”) to Zionist influence, suggesting Charlie’s break with Israel may have contributed to his assassination (05:20).
• Baron: “After Charlie's assassination, the Zionist money flew in, poured in.” (06:00)
• They contend that Erika Kirk is not “off-limits” for criticism. “She wants to be in a glitter pantsuit with pyrotechnics standing in center stage. That's where she wants to be. And so that comes with scrutiny...” (15:55)

4. Media and Institutional Cover-Up

• The hosts point out that mainstream and local media have exhibited zero curiosity or investigative rigor, which they interpret as a sign of orders coming “from the very top.” (48:31–49:30)
• Baron details holes in the official narrative and overlooked witnesses, as well as suspicious police and legal behavior (e.g., evidence being destroyed, vehicles sold and steam-cleaned, witnesses ignored, crime scene paved over) (52:53).
• Baron: “This is a cover up from start to finish, is it not?” (49:30)
  Jimmy: “And it all already seems like the fix is in for sure from the corporate media and the Justice Department...” (50:18)

5. Contextualizing with Past and Ongoing US Foreign Policy Deceptions

• The episode draws parallels between the current smearing tactics and past campaigns to silence or discredit dissenters during the Iraq War, Afghanistan, and COVID era: “It’s the same stuff they told you. Don't question. Trust the experts. Trust the science. She's a grieving widow. It's the same thing.” (15:10)
• Jimmy revisits historic war propaganda (“weapons of mass destruction”), showing clips and transcripts of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Trump, highlighting the bipartisan march to war (23:35–26:40).
• Jimmy: “So now Trump is siding with the people he used to yell at. ... He's now siding with the neocons ... the people who wanted all the Iraq war ... He's now siding with those people.” (26:40–28:00)
• Both parties, he argues, ultimately support the same war machine and financial interests, and the American electorate is left powerless: “Pretending that the Democrats and Republicans are different in any substantial way makes you a chump.” (30:07)

6. MAGA, Right-Wing Dissent, and Candace Owens’s Outsider Position

• Despite being credited for Trump’s election, many MAGA-aligned figures (special mention: Candace Owens, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massie, Tucker Carlson) are being pushed out for questioning the mainstream/Israel-aligned narratives (38:35–40:51).
• Dore: “I don’t know who is honestly going along with this, who isn’t being paid or pressured... Where are the real MAGA?” (40:51)

7. The Systemic Failure of Accountability and Democratic Recourse

• The conclusion is grim: both establishment parties, big media, and the justice system are captured by powerful interests.
• Jimmy: “There's no getting out of this. Our government is completely corrupt. Your vote doesn't matter. ... Voting isn’t going to do it.” (44:00)
• The only way out, he suggests, may be through a massive, possibly painful, systemic breakdown (e.g., collapse of the dollar, mass protests).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the coordinated smear:
  “They all got the same memo today to call real Candace Owen a demon. This shit crazy.” – Jimmy Dore (02:17)
• On the financial motivations:
  “The Zionist money flew in, poured in after Charlie's assassination. Isn't that interesting?” – Baron (06:00)
• On official narratives:
  “Constantly. And so you would be derelict if you didn't question her. But this is the same stuff that they said about COVID... Trust the science. She's a grieving widow. It's the same thing.” – Jimmy Dore (15:10)
• On media complicity:
  “Nobody in the corporate news doing this. Nobody. ... This is a cover up from start to finish, is it not?” – Jimmy Dore (49:30)
• On the system’s failures:
  “Our government is completely corrupt. Your vote doesn't matter. ... It's going to have to get significantly more painful for people to actually get in the street and do something...” – Jimmy Dore (44:00)
• Mocking coordinated outrage:
  “I hope they all have to split just the one $7,000 check since none of them have the originality to change it up even one bit.” – Jimmy Dore (03:00)
• On US foreign policy continuity:
  “Pretending that the Democrats and Republicans are different in any substantial way makes you a chump.” – Jimmy Dore (30:07)
• On the Streisand effect:
  “It's not working. And what it's actually doing is making people want to watch Candace Owens even more ... It's the Streisand effect.” – Jimmy Dore (12:00)
• Candace Owens’s own pushback:
  “We won't be taking any lessons on what evil is from people who protected Jeffrey Epstein graping children and or look the other way as Bibi Netanyahu committed a genocide in broad daylight.” – Candace Owens (31:00)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Candace Owens promo and Kirk assassination background: 00:21–02:00
• Reading of the “demon” memo and celebrity tweet pile-on: 02:17–05:00
• Dissection of the email leak and Grok’s authentication: 06:35–10:30
• Technical breakdown of the coordinated Twitter/bot campaign: 14:00–18:30
• Candace Owens’s tweet response: 31:00
• Parallels with Iraq War propaganda: 23:35–31:39
• On MAGA and right-wing internal schisms: 38:35–40:51
• Cover-up details around forensics and law enforcement: 52:53–53:43
• Final reflections on the ineffectiveness of voting/systemic reform: 44:00–46:29

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Overall Tone and Style

• Fierce, sardonic, and occasionally profane.
• Heavy skepticism of mainstream narratives.
• Willingness to name names and directly accuse major political, media, and advocacy players.
• Conspiratorial but rooted in the language of investigative skepticism (“question everything,” “follow the money,” “don’t trust the experts”).
• Blends dark humor with a sense of outrage and urgency.
• Interspersed with satire and parody (notably, Mike McRae’s Harrison Ford calls).

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Final Takeaway

Jimmy Dore and his guest argue that Candace Owens is being “smeared” through a deliberate campaign orchestrated by powerful interests to protect Erika Kirk and the institutional status quo at Turning Point USA. The episode paints this as part of a familiar cycle—those who dare to investigate or criticize powerful insiders face orchestrated takedowns, while the mainstream and alternative right melt into conformity and silence. Jimmy ends on a call for deeper skepticism, resistance to coordinated narratives, and recognition that real change must come from outside the current system.

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Transcript

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, come see me on tour in San Antonio, Albuquerque, Houston, Dallas, Salt Lake City, Las Vegas. Go to jimmy dore.com for a link for tickets. And don't go anywhere else, because if you do, they'll charge you more. Establishment media sucks. August lighting, so good luck.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly a Trump supporter or critic)]

Bullshit.

[Jimmy Dore]

We can't afford why he's fomenting this. Watch and see as his jack off the medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on. It's the chimney door. Candace Owens dropped a promo for the new series she's going to do, exposing who Erica Kirk really is. And if you've looked into anything about Erica Kirk's past, it reads like a directly from a psyop created by the CIA. So let's watch her. This is the. This is the promo she dropped. President Trump says that Kirk has died after he was shot from a nearby building after being shot at Utah Valley University.

[Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)]

The great and even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead.

[Jimmy Dore]

The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry. I didn't even get to give him a kiss goodbye. That young man, I forgive him.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

Take your time.

[Jimmy Dore]

Take your time. Erica Kirk has been named the new CEO of Turning Point usa. My husband's dead. Like, I'm not trying to be morbid, but he's dead. It's weird to say excited describes her husband's funeral as the event of the century. Merch hats. We have 50,000 plus hat orders. Nobody knows why she's out there in a glittering pantsuit in a recreated tent that her husband tragically was murdered in throwing merch out. Everyone grieves differently. So if someone's acting weird, don't read into that.

[Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)]

Zionists, the Prime Minister of Israel, all

[Jimmy Dore]

lied through their teeth about Charlie Kirk. Her operation, operation was in Constanta, the epicenter of Romania's trafficking scandal. We heard conversations to have with a 15 year old. I'm gonna touch your butt.

[Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)]

$8.6 million to their own shell company.

[Jimmy Dore]

What is going on? We had nothing to hide. My aunt used to tell me, never do something that you don't want on the front page of a newspaper. Bam. So that was supposed to drop today, that first episode. And then the mockingbird press came out for her. So there was obviously an order that went out. And by the way, if Candace Owens was completely crazy, as they say, or evil, and she was lying, why would anyone care? Why would anyone care? But the fact is she's not. And she's caught them in multiple, multiple, multiple lies. And you don't lie unless you're covering up something. Why would you lie if you're not covering? So they're covering up the assassination. It looks to go directly towards Israel because of Charlie turning on the Israel project his whole life. The whole TPUSA thing was a Zionist project. And as soon as he turned from that Zionist project, he was dead. And so this is what this is about. They can't have this. And so here they. They all got the same memo. The Hodge twins tweet out. They all got the same memo today to call real Candace Owen a demon. This shit crazy. So here, I'll show you it. Here. I'm convinced. Candace Owens is a demon. Candace is a demon. I'm not sure if Candace Owens is mere a demon. What Candace Owens is doing is the most wicked and satanic thing that has ever come from the online. Right. Just so you know, Candace Owen is pure evil. Candace Owens is a demon from the pit of hell. Candace Owens is a genuine demon. What you are what you are a Candace fan or not. This is evil. Well, I hope they all have to Split just the one $7,000 check since none of them have the originality to change it up even one bit. You don't even know that you're saboteurs of your own side. You're the saboteur. You're doing the bidding of Israel. Keep up the bad work, everybody. Keep up the bad work. Here's another one. This is demonic. This demonic lying skank. This gutless piece of trash. I think she's. No, she's talking about Candace, not Erica dares to keep vomiting her poisonous soul rotting lies all over Eric. Why would you care? So a crazy person online is vomiting Lie. Who? So what? People do it all the time. Russiagate was one long lie. Who cares? The Afghanistan war, one long lie. Why do you care that a podcaster is. Is looking into the CEO of a half a billion dollar corporation? Because that's what it is. She's not a private person. She's a very, very, very public person. Did you not see her walk out in the glittered pantsuit with the pyrotechnics days after her husband was killed? Did you not see that? She's not a private person. She's a public person. She did a book tour immediately. She's out there bragging about how much money they're making, bragging about how many people attended his funeral. It was the event of the century. We made 50,000 hat sales. We made 200 grand in merch. She's not a private person. She's a very public Person who's lied constantly about everything, about her past, her present, and what she did around Charlie Kirk's assassination. Constantly. And so you would be derelict if you didn't question her. But this is the same stuff that they said about COVID This is the same stuff they told you. Don't question. I heard Candace say, oh, she's a grieving widow. That's the new. Trust the experts. Trust the science. Trust the science. She's a grieving widow. It's the same thing. Don't do your own research. Trust the government, you know, to actual demons. Good people read as demons. That's the. That's the thing. Because the actual demons don't have a single original thought. They don't. They don't even know that they're stealing most of most of their ideas most of the time. And that's why it comes out looking like this. That's why it comes out looking like this. Whatever it was that Dan Bonjino did yesterday, it had nothing to do with Christianity. You cannot watch that and think any other thing than demonic language breaking. Dan Bongino threatened to physically torture Candace Owens. In a shocking new video, Bongino went on to describe torments of hell on every inch of Owen's body. All right, fantastic. Nice work. He's doing great work. Dan Bongino. He wants to torture a woman. Well, how is really of him, huh? Here's Bobby Starbuck. This is wildly disturbing and inappropriate. What Candace is doing is indefensible and deeply dishonors Charlie's memory. Erica was the love of his life and the mother of his children. He's not here to defend her the way he'd want to. He would have gone to war over this. Yeah, I don't think so. They already had to have a priest come to his house to pray over their marriage the day before he was killed. I don't think so. I think he was on to her. I think he was on to the people surrounding him at TP usa. He was certainly on to Benjamin Netanyahu and the Zionists. Yeah, I don't think so. Matt Wallace tweeted out full disclosure. I was offered money today to say bad things about Candace Owens and turned it down. So this is making. So this is an email that got leaked that is giving directions on how The Mockingbird Press 2.0 is supposed to do their job smearing Candace Owens. Subject urgent. Shut down. Candace. Latest smear action needed tonight. Then it says, this isn't journalism. It's pure evil demonic slave. So it sounds like Everything you've heard, right? We've seen her pattern before, but this time it's personal, it's vicious, and it has. It has to stop. Why? Why does it have to stop, Candace? Erica already said it doesn't bother her what people say. It just rolls around. She already said that. She said that to Nicki Minaj on stage at AM Fest. She goes, oh, it doesn't matter. They say everything they can. Everybody says to me, I don't. That rolls off my back. She said that. So why would you care? Why do you care that somebody who you call a crazy person and a demon is saying mean things about you? Doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense. You know, there's a. Oh, so if you call. What. How does it go? So if you call up someone who's a. Who's not a moron, if you call them a moron, they don't care. If you call someone a moron, who is. It drives them crazy. And that's what this is. So she's over the target with Erica and tpusa and the military and Israel and the assassination of Charlie Kirk is nothing like the FBI says it is. And she's onto it and they know, so they got to do everything they can to discredit her. And this idea that somehow Erica Kirk is off bounds. She's not off. She's not out of bounds to criticize at all. She's the head of a giant, most power, one of the most powerful political organizations in the world. She's now ahead of it, credited with getting Donald Trump elected, now having money come in by the hundreds of millions. She now stepped up to be the head of that. She's not a private person, and she doesn't want to be a private person. She wants to be in a glitter pantsuit with pyrotechnics standing in center stage. That's where she wants to be. And so that comes with scrutiny, that comes with scrutiny, that comes with criticism and trying to stop somebody from scrutinizing that are the same. The same thing people did. When you can't question Dr. Foushee, you can't question Big Pharma, you can't question CNN, you can't question Pfizer. Well, you can and you should. And if you didn't that, you. You were derelict. And you're supposed to question powerful people who are lying. And that is Erica Kirk. And these are the directions on how to do it. Say talking points, use these verbatim or close variations. Candace Owens is evil, pure evil. This is demonic, straight up satanic level, attack out of window and her kids. Candace is a demon obsessed with destroying Charlie Kirk. How can any real Christian stay silent while she attacks Erica Kirk like this? She's not asking questions, she's conducting a witch hunt. Do this now before it trends further. Quote a reply to this key post exposing the trailer and call it out using the language above. And there's a link to the tweet. Sharon quote, Graham Allen strong stand. He's leading the charge. His video declaring he's coming for everyone responsible. Boost this hard. Post your own version if you have reach. Flood the replies. The coordinated push worked against her before. It can bury this trailer before episode one even drops. Uh huh. Okay. And it's from the CU team. You're saying, well, Jimmy, that's probably made up. That's probably fake. And that's what I thought when I saw it. I'm like, that's probably fake. I mean, would they really be that stupid? I mean, yes, they would. They've been really stupid. The people trying to cover up the assassination of Charlie Kirk have been really stupid all along and they've outed themselves lying over and over and over. So yes, they could be that stupid. But is this like a trap to make anybody who reports on this, Is it a trap since they go, aha, we caught you reporting something false? Is that what this is? Well, Grok waited on, hey, is this real? What is this? So this is what Grok says? Yes, this is an authentic leaked internal memo from the CU team. That's what Grok says. A pro Erica Kirk supporter group tied to TP USA circles. It directs coordinated replies using screen scripted demonic satanic evil talking points to counter Candace Owens new series on Charlie Kirk's legacy in Widow, including specific action items like quote, quote, tweeting, target posts and flooding threads. The language matches the public tweet collage exactly. That's according to Grok. That's what Grok is saying. Jimmy, I just wanted to, you know when you were talking about Erica Kirk as, you know, as a CEO, Right. So five months ago, according to this, it says that Turning points raked in 85 million a year. Yeah, but now it's way above that. Right. And then she that they have 18 million in net assets and that's why she gets to be held accountable. That's why. Well, yeah, they have over $200 million now. The Zionist money flew in, poured in after Charlie's assassination. Isn't that interesting? Grok has more to say. The CU team is an internal Coordination group of pro Erica Charlie Kirk legacy supporters tied to Turning Point CU appears to be shorthand for something like Charlie United. The memo isn't signed by named people. It's just attributed to the group as a forward only blast and scripted talking points to counter Candace Owens trailer. Multiple identical versions leaked today matching the coordinated replies. We're seeing no public denial or source claim yet, so I don't know if that's a re if this, if this is real, but it might as well be real because every tweet sounds exactly alike and it's obviously coordinated and they obviously got their talking points from somewhere. Did they get it from this specific email? I don't know, but this is definitely a coordinated. So here's another thing. Watch this. So this guy, let's theorize, he says, what if I told you I can effectively prove what many of us already know, that the social media attacks on Candace Owens are not organic, but rather a coordinated smear campaign bearing all the hallmarks you would expect to find. Let's take a walk and see. So the executive summary. This report examines a coordinated online campaign on Twitter targeting Candace Owens in response to her announcement of the investigative series Bride of Charlie, which scrutinizes Erica Kirk, widow of the assassinated conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Based on an exhaustive search of Twitter posts using advanced keyword and semantic queries, we identified over 50 individual accounts posting content that mirrors the exemplar provided a post by Robbie Starbuck criticizing Owens for dishonoring Charlie's memory and defending Erica Kirk. These posts exhibit clear hallmarks of textbook smear and propaganda operation, including linguistic homogenization, temporal clustering, astroturfing via bot like amplified accounts and narrative framing designed to delegitimize Owens while sanctifying Kirk. The problem is this has stopped working. This isn't working. And when. When these kind of smears, these coordinated smears, which by the way, what country does these kind of smears? What demonic country calls everybody else demonic? Oh, that would be a certain Middle Eastern country, isn't it? And this reads just like their script. Call the people telling the truth demonic, call them demons. That's exactly what that Middle Eastern country called Israel does. He goes on. Section 1. Linguistic homogenization echoed phrases as propaganda markers. A cortel, a core tell of coordinated propaganda is the repetition of specific phrases creating an illusion of organic consensus. Here post recycled near identical language suggesting scripted messaging or copy paste amplification. Pure evil or demonic? This is deeply disturbing. Pure evil. What the f is wrong with you? You are demonic. This is straight evil also disturbing or inappropriate? It is really sick and disturbing to watch. What she's doing to Erica is deeply inappropriate. Dishonors Charlie's memory or variants in eight posts Most of Charlie Kirk's friends are mighty quiet about Candace Owens new Erica Kirk series. So this is what they're doing. And they're so lazy they won't take a writing course so they could figure out how to put it in their own words. Here it is Temporal clustering Rapid synchronized response so synchronized response propaganda campaigns often deploy in bursts to overwhelm discourse. It occurred within 24 hours of Owens trailer release on February 23, peaking on February 24. Timeline breakdown so before the trailer February 18 of 22, there were only five posts, mostly low engagement previews. Candace Owens orders witch hunt over new disturbing Erica Kerr. But after she dropped the trailer February 23rd boom. 57 posts with spikes around high profile shares Dom Luker's post garnered 18,000 likes in hours. Jack Posobiek at 1556 GMT clustering around influencer posts 22 replies or quotes stem from threads like Owen's announcement from Laura Loomer calling it depraved just total harassment. The swarm effects indicates coordination as organic outage typically outrage typically spreads more gradually. The the timeline aligns with defensive PR tactics. So there you go. More okay, and here's section four Narrative Framing and Motivational Bias Propaganda frames issues to evoke emotion over facts. Here posts invert Owens expose questioning Charlie Kirk's death into an attack on a grieving widow, ignoring her evidence claims like for instance the leaked audio emotional appeals 70% invoke grief or legacy resiliency and strength of Erica Kirk turning a murdered man's widow into true crime fan fiction ad hominem attacks 32 posts label Owens as deranged, obsessed, demonic without engaging in the content. The Candace Owens vendetta against Erica Kirk never stops, but they never engage with what specifically Candace Owens is saying. It's all ad hominem counter narrative. Some defend by counter accusing Owens she's fixing to fully expose Erica Kirk. But this is Hang on, but this is outlier support for Owens. This framing protects institutional interests, for example tpusa stability under Erica while smearing Owens as a conspiracy pedalist. So here's here's Candace Owens response. She says PSA we won't be taking any lessons on what evil is from people who protected Jeffrey Epstein graping children and or look the other way as Bibi Netanyahu committed a genocide in broad daylight got 63,000 likes I don't think their campaign is going to work. I don't think it's going to work. And now you know who the fakes and phonies are. Who? None of those people want a real investigation into Charlie Kirk's assassination. No. The answer is no, because they're paid not to. And any, any clear headed person knows that the FBI is completely lying. If they looked into it for a second, they would know that everybody, including Erica and T.P. uSA and the FBI are completely lying about the official narrative about what happened. And so the people who don't want someone to look into this are complicit in the COVID up. And they are 100%. If you don't want Candace Owens or anybody else to look into this, they're not going, hey, let's not have, I hate Candace Owens because she's a demon. But let's get this other person who is a nonpartisan who could look into this. Let's have, let's do that. They're not doing that. They're not offering anybody to do an investigation, an actual investigation into this. They don't want anybody looking into it because if they did, it would expose Israel, it would end TP USA because they're all complicit and in on it. And TP USA is a money laundering organization. That's what they are. And they don't have to pay taxes on it. And Erica Kirk is a tool. She's one of them. And Charlie Kirk was onto it, which is why he had to call a priest into his house the night before he was killed to have the priest pray over him and Erica's marriage. And then he sleeps in another room. And then he didn't sleep in it with her. He was sleeping in another room in the house. Okay. So way to go mockingbird. Press 2.0. It's not, not hard to see through you. It's not hard to sniff you out. And it's not working. It's not working. And what it's actually doing is making people want to watch Candace Owens even more exact course it is. It's the Streisand effect. And here we are. I can't wait to go watch Candace Owens show tonight. I'm gonna. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy dork.com clicking on join Premium it's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. Remember when George Bush said this, Facing

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait

[Jimmy Dore]

for the final proof, the smoking gun

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

that could come in the form of

[Jimmy Dore]

a mushroom cloud facing. Now he was just making all that up. And here is Dick Cheney doing the same thing. Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use them against our friends, against our allies and against us. And there is no doubt that his aggressive regional ambitions will lead him into future confrontations with his neighbors. Confrontations that will involve both the weapons that he has today and the ones he will continue to develop with his oil wealth. Simply state. So have we learned anything from these two guys? I mean, what is it going to be? Is it bad when any politician says stuff like this, or was it never really about what they were saying? Right. Because. Well, here, let me show you one more here. There is no question whatsoever that Saddam is seeking and is working and is advancing towards the development of nuclear weapons. No question whatsoever. The nuclear arms. Saddam will place the security of our entire world at risk. And make no mistake about it, if and once Saddam has nuclear weapons, the terror network will have nuclear weapons. Oh, so Donald Trump used to say stuff like this. The United states has spent $8 trillion fighting and policing the Middle East. Thousands of our great soldiers have died or been badly wounded. Millions of people have died on the other side. Going into the Middle east is the worst decision ever made. He used to say that as recent as 2019. He said that as recent as 2019. And you remember what, remember what got him elected the first time was when he said this to Jeb Bush at a debate. Remember that?

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly a Trump supporter or critic)]

Of mass destruction. There were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass. Okay, obviously the war in Iraq was a big fat mistake.

[Jimmy Dore]

All right?

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly a Trump supporter or critic)]

Now you can take it any way you want. And it took. It took Jeb Bush, if you remember, at the beginning of his announcement, when he announced the president. Took him five days. He went back. It was a mistake. It wasn't a mistake. Took him five days before his people told him what to say. And he ultimately said it was a mistake. The war in Iraq, we spent $2 trillion, thousands of lives we don't even have it. Iran is taking over Iraq with the second largest oil reserves in the world. Obviously, it was a mistake. So George Bush made a mistake. We can make mistakes, but that one was a beauty. We should have never been in Iraq. We have destabilized the Middle East.

[Jimmy Dore]

But so, so, I mean, so you still think he should be in pa

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly a Trump supporter or critic)]

Gets my turn and you do whatever you want. You call it whatever you want. I want to tell you they lied, okay? They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass.

[Jimmy Dore]

Ok. All right. So now, so now Trump is now siding with the people he used to yell at. He's now siding with the Jeb Bushes. He's now siding with the neocons. He's now siding with the Zionists, the people who wanted all the Iraq war, the people who wanted the Libyan war, the people who wanted the Afghanistan war for 20 years, the people who wanted the Syrian war, the people who wanted to bomb Yemen, Somalia, the Sudan. He's now siding with those people. He's now, that's all. Glenn went on to point out that he's listening to all the people that were advising George Bush, Dick Cheney and Jeb Bush. Now those are the people he's listening to because here he was at the, at the State of the Union last night, and he's talking about going to war with Iran. And the Democrats, even the Democrats are cheering the Democrats. This is the only thing they stood up for all night. Let's watch.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly a Trump supporter or critic)]

They've already developed missiles that can threaten Europe and our bases overseas. And they're working to build missiles that will soon reach the United States of America. After Midnight Hammer. They were warned to make no future attempts to rebuild their weapons program, in particular nuclear weapons. Yet they continue starting it all over. We wiped it out and they want to start all over again.

[Jimmy Dore]

So it's the same thing. They're not even changing the script that they're, they're developing weapons. There's this country in the Middle east that never threatened us, never going to threaten us, never did anything, never invaded. They're, but, but they're somehow, they're do. They're, they're going to have weapons and then it's all over for us. Iran's going to take over the world. It's the same script. They didn't even bother to come up with a new one. I think that's the most insulting thing.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly a Trump supporter or critic)]

And at this moment, again, pursuing their sinister ambitions, we are in negotiations with Them, they want to make a deal. But we haven't heard those secret words. We will never have a nuclear weapon. My preference,

[Jimmy Dore]

That's both my preferences to

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly a Trump supporter or critic)]

solve this problem through diplomacy. But one thing is certain. I will never allow the world's number one sponsor of terror, which they are

[Jimmy Dore]

by far the world's number one terrorist by far, and nobody even comes close, is the United States by far. We've set the Middle east on fire. We did Iraq twice, we did Syria, turned it over to the Al Qaeda, we did Afghanistan for 20 years, spent a trillion dollars, turned it over to the Taliban, we did Libya, turned it over to terrorists and open slave trade. We, we, we're doing, we're, we're funding the genocide right now in Gaza, we're funding what's happening in Ukraine. We're the world's biggest terrorists by far. Look what we just did to Venezuela. We're starving Cuba. So this idea that Iran is the, that just, that's just their definition of terrorism. That's it. Anybody who fights back against the United States imperialism or Israel's is a terrorist.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly a Trump supporter or critic)]

Ok, you have a nuclear weapon. Can't let that happen.

[Jimmy Dore]

Can't let them have a nuclear weapon. Can't do it. We can't let them have a nuclear weapon. And the entire chamber stands up, Democrats included. That's, and that's what Max Blumenthal says. Trump recycles George W. Bush's Iraq War WMD propaganda warning that Iran is planning to strike Europe and the US with nuclear weapons. Many Democrats stood and applauded after staying seated all night. So there you go, they again. Pretending that the Democrats and Republicans are different in any substantial way makes you a chump. They're not different in any way. Donald Trump said he was getting rid of censorship. He brought in all new types of censorship. Donald Trump said he was going to end the wars, invest that money back here. He's already bombed Iran, he's already bombed Yemen at the behest of Israel. He's already welcomed the head chopper from Al Qaeda from Syria to the White House as we still have people in Guantanamo. He's still funding the Ukraine war, he's overthrown Venezuela, he wants to go bomb Mexico and he's doing siege warfare on Cuba, which is a war crime. And now he wants to go back into Iran, he wants to finish the job. He wants to go back into Iran, do the Iran war. Whatever. Whatever happened to this guy? Whatever happened to. Whatever happened to where is he?

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly a Trump supporter or critic)]

There is this guy of mass destruction. There were none. And they Knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, what happened to that guy? The exact opposite. He is now one of them. He is now Jeb Bush, he is now Dick Cheney, he is now George W. Bush. He's that guy. And he's going into Iran. They're going to do a false flag, they're going to blame it on Iran and they're going to, they're doing this. Why? Because Benjamin Netanyahu wants them to do this. And anything Benjamin Netanyahu wants, they do. Now Trump will tell you he does this at the behest of, at the behest of Mariam Adelson. But I think he wants you to think that's why he's doing it. I think he's doing it because Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu have him by the balls. So there's a reason why they're not releasing those extra 3 million files of the Epstein. And you know, a lot of people said that when that postcard, that birthday card that Trump sent to Jeffrey Epstein got released through the New York Times, that that was the doing of Israel, that was the doing of Benjamin Netanyahu to pressure Donald Trump to bomb Iran. That's what a lot of, that's the speculation. So obviously he's doing the bidding of Israel. He wants you to think it's because of Miriam Adelson's $200 million she gave him. But I think it's really because he doesn't want to admit that he's, if it was known, he's, he's got a lot of, lot of blackmail on him, is being held by the Mossad. That's what I think. So let's go back to how people reacted. Two and a half minutes of straight up Israel first war propaganda. That's what that was. Weapons of mass destruction, vastly over reported protester deaths, hysteria over nuclear weapons programs that doesn't even exist. Just like Saddam Hussein. Same thing is the same playbook. Non threat as a dire threat. Iran's not a threat to the United States. They don't even have missiles that could reach here. They're using every old trick in the book. I would, I would feel better if they came up with new tricks here and the Democrats on board. So again, it's, it's like if your parents got divorced, but they all still, the Democrats and Republicans, they're like divorced, but like your parents are divorced and they still agree on all the most horrible stuff. They all agree on the war in Ukraine, they all agree on funding a genocide in Gaza and they all agree on a war in Iran and Venezuela, by the way. They agree on that, too. They all agree on all the war stuff. So they didn't even. Here, I like this. They didn't even get creative with the war propaganda anymore. Everything is just 2002, 2003 era neocon rebranded. Hey, you're telling me the American government can't cook up a better psychological operation than this? Maybe the old masters are retired. Even the dog shit before was better than whatever this is. Michael DeWitt says you could have asked for them to stand if Israel was blackmailing them and the same group would have stood up. Also ask Blink if you're in the Epstein files. And so Mohammed Nader is doing a lot of tweeting about this. He says MAGA isn't a movement, it's a clown reflex. Every circus needs noise. MAGA provides it. No policy, no plan, just costumes and yelling. Same hats, same chants, different clowns. So I think that most of MAGA that are legit in championing Trump's campaign agenda have left Trump people like Thomas Massie, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Candace Owens. We've showed you myriad Trump voters who now have regret and remorse and feel betrayed because they are being betrayed. And so the people left, you know, the Gunther, whatever his name is, the cat turds, the Gunther Eagleman's, the Dan Bonginos. That's who he's talking about here. The people. Just a clown reflex. They just go back on everything they've said for the last 10 years, and now they become the people that they claimed to be fighting and hating. And so now they're Dan Bongino and Cash Patel. Instead of exposing the Epstein files, they're covering up there. As Dan Bongino said, they're. They're having custody over information. That's what we sent him to Washington for, was to have custody over information. No, we sent you there to expose it. So. So Candace Owens said, you know, that the MAGA was ended the day he called his own supporters clowns and idiots for wanting to release of the Epstein files. So that's when she said it was over. I think it was over when he bombed Iran. But here's another one. A country of 350, that's the United States, obeys a prime minister of a state smaller than New Jersey. Think about that. That's who's really controlling the United States right now. Our foreign policy is a country smaller than New Jersey. Meanwhile, Gaza is 141 square miles. They've been under siege for 20 years, and they never kneeled. To Israel. But the US officials can't even refuse a wall kissing order. Not even once. A tiny strip stands tall. A superpower kneels. So the Gazans, the Palestinians, they stand up to Israel. But a superpower, the United States, we kneel immediately. That's what this is about. A superpower kneels. Explain that, Maria Madison. She's the original Erica Kirk, by the way. She's the. She's the queen alien laying honeypot eggs on a conveyor belt. Somebody put this together. I don't know who. Maybe it's up here. Forbidden Clothes at Forbidden Clothes. This is. Hey, you just got drafted to fight in Iran. That's what this video is. But Mom, I don't want to go fight Iranians for Israel. Joey, don't you dare be anti Semitic. I want to go home, sir. You some kind of anti Semite, Joey? I just.

[Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)]

I don't even know why we were there.

[Jimmy Dore]

Let's focus on why that thought is anti Semitic. Joey. Get a job, loser. Israel needs our taxes. But I'm not even dead. That's anti Semitic, son. Well done. That's very nicely done. Forbidden clothes. It's coming. And let's just remember all the times that Donald Trump tweeted against a war with Iran. In 2011, he said, in order to get elected, Obama will start a war with Iran. In 2012, he said Barack Obama will attack Iran in order to get reelected in 2013, he said, I predict that President Obama will at some point attack Iran in order to save face. And then in 2013, he said, remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly. Properly, not skilled. So anybody who calls themselves MAGA who's cheering Donald Trump's drumbeat to war with Iran is never believed in anything that the MAGA was stood for in the first place. So you're just fakes and phonies and sycophants and actually you're betraying the United States just like Donald Trump is. He's doing this at the behest of Israel. It's not in our interest to do this at all. It's the exact opposite, as Donald Trump used to say. Donald Trump says there was no weapons of mass destruction and they knew it and they lied. Donald Trump said it was the biggest mistake we ever made. Here it is. Going into the Middle east is the worst decision ever made. And now he's doing the same thing. And there's a small group of people who call themselves MAGA that are going along with it. Marjorie Taylor Greene's not going along with it. Thomas Massie doesn't go along with it. Tucker Carlson doesn't go along with it. The number one conservative newsman in the country, Candace Owens, doesn't go along with it. I don't go along with it. I don't know who is, who in. Is honestly going along with this, who isn't being paid or pressured to go along with this. But where's this guy? Where are the evidence of mass destruction?

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly a Trump supporter or critic)]

There were none and they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass. Okay, obviously the war in Iraq was a big fat mistake.

[Jimmy Dore]

And that's why people voted for him the first time. That's why a lot of people voted for him the second time. He now has. Now he's turned into the thing he used to rail against. He's that guy. He surrounded himself with all the same people, all the same Zionists, all the same neocons, and they're going to do it. And really the point, the reason I really wanted to do this, because I didn't want to cover his speech last night at all. I watched it, most of it, and it was, you know, it's just stomach churning. It's just, just as much as Joe Biden's was stomach churning. It's not, this isn't partisan, but Donald Trump promised to not go into these wars. He promised to end these wars in 24 hours. He promised that you could do, instead of bombing, you could do a phone call like he said he would do with Yemen. And then he went and bombed Yemen. He's still funding Ukraine. He's still funding the genocide in Gaza. He's bombed Iran already. He's already welcomed the head chopper from Al Qaeda to the White House from Syria. This is all at the behest of Israel. And so the, the reason I wanted to cover this, because it's not newsworthy. What? And nothing he said last night was newsworthy except the fact that the. You gotta. What got revealed was that the Democrats agree with Donald Trump on all the worst things he wants to do. You want it. You want to triple the budget for the Pentagon, go do it. You want to, you want to go invade Iran, go do it. You want to overthrow Venezuela, go do it. You want to keep funding a war with Russia, go do it. They're all for it. They're all for all the worst things he wants to do. You want to keep Americans from actual having health care, go do it. And they'll do it. You want to keep people from having a raise in the minimum wage. Go do it. And that's what they're. So that's. This is what the Democrats and the, and the Republicans. This is all theater. And it doesn't matter who you vote for. You get John McCain and you get an exploding deficit. The Democrats are for the exploding deficits. The Republicans are for the exploding deficits. They're for the devaluation of the dollar. The Democrats are for the devaluation of the dollar. They're for foreign wars. The Democrats are for foreign wars. All the billionaires that actually run things, they all like each other and work together behind the scenes, and they're the ones who really run things. Donald Trump is not the boss. He has a handler. He has a boss. One of those bosses is Benjamin Netanyahu. And I don't know how we get out of this without some kind of real revolution, something big, you know, like the truckers did in Canada when they shut down Canada. We need something like that to take our country back. But it's not going to happen until the, until the rest of the world stops using the United States dollar as the reserve currency, which is coming. I predict it will probably come within 10 years. I'm not good at predictions. But that is what. When people lose their life savings, when they lose their retirement, when everything is. When we go into a deflation spiral or an inflation spiral, that's what will make people finally wake up, get in the streets. Like, wait, I go to work all day. When I come home, I'm more in debt than when I left for work. That's what will make people get in the streets. But until then, even though 50% of the country can't afford a $400 emergency, 70 to 80% of workers work paycheck to paycheck. People still go bankrupt on the regular. People are spending $40,000 a year just for health insurance for a couple. So it's bad, but it's going to have to get significantly more painful for people to actually get in the street and do something and take our country back, because voting isn't going to do it. People thought that voting for Donald Trump was going to have a massive change. I thought there would be a change. And that's again, me hoping. I didn't have, I had hope that there would be. I didn't have faith. I had hope. But no, he's, you know, he's. It was all a head fake. Pointing. Tulsi Gabbard was a head fake. The, all of it, you know, RFK Jr. Now they're, they're putting out executive orders so they can poison us with glyphosate and all of our food. They're giving $35 billion to Big Pharma so they can poison us with Ozempic instead of giving us healthy food and gym memberships. They're giving $35 billion to Ozempic manufacturers instead of giving us healthy food at gym members. So again, there's no getting out of this. We're. Our government is completely corrupt. Your vote doesn't matter. It does not matter. Don't be a chump and think that it matters. It might matter locally. It might matter locally. It certainly doesn't matter on a national level. And the Democrats go right along. So now Candace has talked about the Egyptians using Camrys, Toyota Camrys, and there's actually a police call talking about a Camry. Let's play it. Three West Sand White Lane, be on the north right of the Terra. There's a Toyota Camry that's parked on the side with the tazzards on, but no one's inside. 28 Hotel at 829 Charlie Hotel. Been there for about an hour.

[Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)]

Okay, so I will read you what she said, because admittedly we had to listen to it at least 75 times to. To figure out what she said. Sam White Lane was what she said initially. Sam White Lane.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here is Sam White Lane.

[Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)]

Here is Sam White Lane. And now I will read what she said. Now that we have Sam White Lane up Sam White Lane. That's this road right here. Yes, it Sam White Lane be on the north side of Doterra. That is the word that triggered in my mind, hey, wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Maybe this, maybe this Camry is connected.

[Jimmy Dore]

So why. So what is it about it being on Sam White Lane, an empty Camry with its hazards on for over an hour, and Doterra. Tell, tell me how you connect all those.

[Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)]

Yeah, so I made a mistake last night. And that's one of the great things about doing a live show. Sometimes you make a mistake. I thought that the Doterra was owned by the guy, Derek Maxfield, who had that plane that took off shortly after the Charlie Kirk event and killed the transponder. After I said that apparent, a bunch of people in the audience went and looked it up like we're not. We don't think he owns it. And so I went back and checked and. And he didn't. So in the show description, I actually made a correction there. And later on in the, in the. When I was doing some comments at the end of the show. I made a correction as well. But the, the, the reality is there is a Camry there. It's on the side of the road. It's got its hazards on. It looks like it's an abandoned vehicle. There were also Camrys that we spotted at the airport next to the Egyptian plane that was parked outside in front of Duncan Aviation. So you have this, you have the, you're starting to find corroboration of Candace's story, potentially that these Egyptians came in from out of town, rented Camrys, and somehow use those Camrys in the commission of an organized effort relative to Charlie Kirk, the, the, the owner of the Doterra. I got wrong. So I'm fully willing to admit that I'm, I'm a grown man and commit when I get something wrong.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, and so you were able to do this on your own. Like, this is just one show or maybe two shows. I got this, these clips from. I mean, you're, this, you're, you're uncovering things that are fascinating that are just, you know, it's like a Colombo episode or. I don't, I'm, you know, I'm so old now, I can't even think of a, a current show, but, you know, Colombo. And it's, it's like, you're like, oh, my God. It's really, it's like an Agatha Christie mystery. It's unfolding right in front of us. And you're the one doing the investigation, and so is Candace. And there's nobody in the corporate news doing this. Nobody. Nobody from local press. You would think somebody in the, in that area in Utah would do so. Like they would be. No, no, nothing. Not contacting you. They didn't contact the person who saw the shooter that talked to Ken. They didn't contact anybody. Nobody. This is a cover up from start to finish, is it not?

[Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)]

It is. And the key giveaway are the things like the Zechariah Qureshi where, you know, the police come, they interrogate this guy or detain him, and then they cut him loose. And you have all these radio transmission, all these police dispatches that are public. I mean, I went and got them. Why could the local press not go get him and say, why did they detain this guy? Oh, wait a minute. He was going hospital to hospital looking for people. They don't do it. They haven't asked me these. I'm a small show. It's me and one researcher. Candace is a small show. It's her and a couple of researchers and a couple of producers, you know, and, and if Fox News or MSNBC or CNN or Washington Post or New York Times can't uncover this stuff or don't want to uncover this stuff, it tells me the fixes in from the very top. Because these are legitimate questions that absolutely must be resolved before Tyler Robinson goes to trial, in my opinion.

[Jimmy Dore]

And it all already seems like the fix is in for sure from the corporate media and the Justice Department because now Cash Patel is trying to wash his hands of it and say it's a local issue, which it shouldn't be. A local. An assassination of a political figure, that's a local issue. You're going to leave it up to the podunk cops that in, in Utah somewhere? It doesn't make any sense, does it?

[Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)]

No, it doesn't make sense. I mean, I, I've heard the argument that the FBI or the feds should have taken over. They certainly should be potentially providing support. But it is a, it is a local issue in the sense that it's a Utah resident who never left the state of Utah to commit the crime and he was killed in Utah. So in that sense, the local government does have jurisdiction. But I would think when Vice President Vance flew in and Vice President Vance moved his body to Arizona and, and had this giant show and he gets all these military honors, he was a civilian. You would think that the, the federal government would take some sort of jurisdiction over this and provide some additional support other than what they have. But I think they can sense it falling apart and want to get the hell out of there.

[Jimmy Dore]

Now I'm sure the judge is compromised, the prosecutor, and I also think that the defense is compromised. Do you feel the same way?

[Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)]

I gotta be as a lawyer. I gotta be very careful making claims like that because I've, I've tried cases where you don't disclose much before you go to trial. You know, you're doing everything behind the scenes because there are strategic reasons for that. And I don't want to say that they're compromised until I start to see evidence that and public evidence that they're compromised. But it wouldn't surprise. I mean, it's possible.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, I mean, the fact that they haven't reached out to you, they haven't reached out to Candace, they haven't reached out to the guy who is a gun expert who teaches people how to shoot firearms. He saw the guy, it said the guy never took the shot, they never contacted him. It seems to be that the COVID up is on even with his own defense team. And I don't think we'll ever gonna get justice. I think they're gonna railroad this kid and they're gonna. And that's it. And because the news media is not making this an issue. And of course, if you control the news media, you control the narrative and you control the conversation. And no matter how much we scream on social media, I don't think it will get us to a fair trial. Well, what do you think?

[Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)]

I'm a little surprised they haven't reached out to Candace or me or some of these other people doing some original research and saying, where are you getting this? Who are you talking to? Put us in touch with that person. Well, how am I surprised?

[Jimmy Dore]

How did they. How did they. I think that's an understatement. But how did they allow them to pave over the crime scene?

[Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)]

That is absolutely. We haven't even talked about that, Jimmy. That is nuts. That is absolutely insane.

[Jimmy Dore]

And. And get rid of the vehicle. And they go, oh, by the way, the vehicle. They immediately steam clean the vehicle and then they sell it.

[Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)]

Right.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's immediately. That is a. That should be sequestered for evidence. Yeah, and it wasn't. And they got rid of it as soon as they cleaned it up and got rid of it as soon. It's exactly a cover up. So I gotta let you go. I really appreciate your time, Baron. You're doing great job. Everybody should check out Baron's show on YouTube. It's a. It's fascinating. I love watching it. It's. The stuff you uncover is. It's amazing. It's like watching a true crime series happen in front of my eyes. It's amazing. You're doing a great work.

[Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)]

Thank you for having me, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, Baron, thank you very much. Talk to you again soon. Hey, this is Jimmy. Who's this?

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

Hey, man.

[Jimmy Dore]

This is Harrison Ford, friend of the show. Harrison Ford. Thanks for calling, Harrison. We haven't heard from you in quite a while.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

You know damn well I called you on Christmas.

[Jimmy Dore]

I mean, a standalone phone call.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

All right, well, in that case you have a point. You know, sometimes you get old and you forget to reach out to friends like you used to. Much like my little wife, Calistra Flockhart sometimes forgets to eat.

[Jimmy Dore]

I see.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

But I decided to call you Jimmy today.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. Why is that?

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

Because I got high out of my mind, man. Blazed all the way to Alpha Centauri. When I'm that high, sometimes I think about just how much I hate Jimmy Dore and it trips me the out.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, I'm sorry to Hear that?

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

Don't be mad. It's awesome. It's truly amazing. But also, sometimes I get philosophical, and I need to hammer out my thoughts with someone. Someone who is also thoughtful and a thinker.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, that's flattering, I gotta admit that.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

But yours is the only phone number I could remember. Zing.

[Jimmy Dore]

Ah. Okay. Okay.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

Robert Duvall died.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, I saw. I'm sorry. Were you too close?

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

Not really. Not really? I'm not close with anyone but that generation. I respected the hell out of them. Destabilizing to see them go one by one. I worked with Gene Hackman early on in the conversation, and his death last year affected me greatly.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm sorry.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

You don't even know what an emotion is. So, on one end, I see these older than I am cats go to the great beyond, and then on the other, I see younger colleagues lose their weight completely. Like Shia LaBeouf.

[Jimmy Dore]

Excuse me?

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

Shia LaBeouf, young actor, huh? He was the hot new thing there for a while. Yeah, he played my son, Mutt in Indiana Jones in the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. There was somewhat of a father figure to him in real life.

[Jimmy Dore]

Really?

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

And he just fell off the wagon and got arrested at Mardi Gras New Orleans the other day.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

Drunk out of his fucking mind.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

Shirtless. Started a fight, got his ass kicked, and then got sent to jail. Pics and video of all over it, all over the Internet.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Humiliating beyond.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

Tweeted out free me like he's some political prisoner and not a drunk maniac. He was the worst thing about that Indiana Jones movie, too.

[Jimmy Dore]

Re. Really?

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

Oh, God. Yeah. And we made that fifth and final Indiana Jones movie. Everyone was in agreement that he would not return, so instead of just saying he was out of town or something, they made it so his character had been killed in Vietnam, and with the timeline of those movies, he would have had to have been, like, 30. You realize how much writers have to hate a character and the motherfucker who plays him? To kill him off at age 30 and Nam for no reason,

[Jimmy Dore]

That's pretty bad. Brutal.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

Between you and me, I think a little bit of Shia LaBeouf himself died in Nam that day. Figuratively speaking, of course.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm sorry, Mr. Ford, but why are you telling me this?

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

I don't know. I'm high and I have your phone number. And I feel untethered from reality. The elders are dying. The youngers are spiritually dying. I remain in psycho spiritual stasis, floating motionless, yet always in motion. Jimmy, are you familiar with the works Of Carl Jung.

[Jimmy Dore]

Carl Gustav Young. Yes, I am actually quite familiar.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

No, Carl McWhirter. Young guy I went to high school with in California. Real stoner. He's where we got most of our shit. He had a lot of little sayings. One of them was, the world can't get me if I ain't nowhere to be got. That always stuck with me. I don't think he ever wrote these things down. I don't know why I asked you if you knew his work.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, look, we need to go.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

Actually, you don't need to do anything. That's the whole point.

[Jimmy Dore]

Jimmy, I. I get what you're saying. On a spiritual. But on this material plane, we actually do have to move on with our show.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

Don't do it, Jimmy. You'll end up just like Shia, don't you see? Shirtless on Bourbon street, yelling at the cops, tilting at windmills. Listen to me. Get into a fetal position inside of a Snuggie and rebirth yourself. It's the only way. Have Steph or Misha help you if need be. Jimmy, who am I talking to? Who am I?

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey. Become a premium member. Go to jimmy door comedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be, and I'll keep being me. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Do not freak out.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

I'm not in it.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly a Trump supporter or critic)]

Do not.

[Jimmy Dore]

Do not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

[Harrison Ford (Friend of the show, voice actor Mike McRae)]

I'm not.

[Political Commentator / Guest (possibly a Trump supporter or critic)]

I'm not.

[Jimmy Dore]

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[Baron (Legal Expert / Investigator)]

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[Jimmy Dore]

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