Trump CALLED Candace Owens To Stop Her Brigitte Macron Reporting!

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Jimmy Dore Show – "Trump CALLED Candace Owens To Stop Her Brigitte Macron Reporting!"

Release Date: July 7, 2025

Introduction

In this episode of The Jimmy Dore Show, host Jimmy Dore engages in a series of provocative discussions surrounding political maneuvers, media influence, vaccine safety, and controversial reports involving international figures. The episode features contributions from notable guests J.D. Vance, Mary Holland, and Candace Owens, delving deep into themes that challenge mainstream narratives.

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1. Conversation with J.D. Vance [00:21 – 06:28]

Overview:
Jimmy Dore opens the episode with a satirical phone call featuring Vice President J.D. Vance. The conversation humorously critiques Trumpism, healthcare policies, and immigration enforcement.

Key Points:

• Trumpism and Legislative Triumphs:

  • J.D. Vance [00:37]: "Passing the big, beautiful bill in the Senate really was electrifying. I'm not gonna lie, dude. I kind of got a boner."
  • Jimmy Dore [00:49]: Criticizes Medicaid cuts, suggesting they may backfire in midterm elections.

• ICE Enforcement:

  • J.D. Vance [01:14]: "Triumph of ICE as this unstoppable force that can just sweep people off the street and make them disappear forever."
  • Jimmy Dore [03:04]: Expresses skepticism about the unprecedented nature of ICE's actions.

• Satirical Take on Political Dynamics:

  • J.D. Vance [02:23]: Discusses the manipulation of senators and political control, likening them to being subdued.

• Trump’s Ceasefire in Gaza:

  • J.D. Vance [03:21]: Highlights Trump’s unexpected announcement of a 60-day ceasefire in Gaza, positioning it as a surprising diplomatic move.

• Social Media and Trolling:

  • J.D. Vance [04:09]: Talks about trolling on Blue Sky Social, mocking the site's liberal user base by posting controversial statements about transgender issues.

Notable Quotes:

• J.D. Vance [02:23]: "We're playing 3D chess over here, Jimmy."
• Jimmy Dore [05:58]: "If you love what you do, Jimmy, you never work a day in your life."

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2. Trump’s Call to Candace Owens Regarding Brigitte Macron [06:28 – 17:21]

Overview:
The episode transitions to a mock interview segment featuring Mary Holland and Candace Owens discussing a supposed phone call from President Trump. The conversation revolves around an alleged request to Candace Owens to cease her reporting on Brigitte Macron’s gender, introducing sensational and controversial claims.

Key Points:

• Alleged Phone Call Content:

  • Mary Holland [07:05]: Describes a discussion with Trump about Emmanuel Macron requesting she stops speaking about his wife.
  • Mary Holland [09:50]: Claims Trump confronted her about Brigitte Macron's penis, leading to an uncomfortable dialogue.

• Analysis and Satirical Commentary:

  • Jimmy Dore [10:21]: Questions the relevance of Macron’s wife’s genitalia to the Ukrainian peace process.
  • Candace Owens [11:40]: Ironically nominates Brigitte Macron for "dong finder general" due to her alleged actions.

• Critique of Media and Disinformation:

  • The segment mocks traditional media narratives and government influence, blending satire with conspiratorial elements.

Notable Quotes:

• Mary Holland [09:50]: "Respectfully, Mr. President, it's not my fault that he married someone with a penis."
• Candace Owens [12:02]: "She's swinging the biggest dick in this conversation."

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3. Vaccine Safety Debate with Mary Holland and Candace Owens [17:21 – 48:40]

Overview:
Mary Holland, CEO of Children's Health Defense, and Candace Owens join Jimmy Dore to discuss vaccine safety, specifically focusing on the removal of mercury preservatives from flu vaccines and the alleged links between vaccines and autism.

Key Points:

• Thimerosal in Vaccines:

  • Mary Holland [18:17]: Explains thimerosal's role as an antimicrobial in vaccines and its potential health risks.
  • Candace Owens [21:02]: Highlights the CDC panel's decision to remove mercury from most flu vaccines, criticizing ongoing use in a minority of vaccines.

• Autism Rates and Vaccine Correlation:

  • Jimmy Dore [23:40]: Cites a conversation between Joe Scarborough and RFK Jr. linking increased autism rates to thimerosal in vaccines.
  • Candace Owens [24:30]: Emphasizes the rise in autism diagnoses and criticizes the CDC's handling of vaccine data.

• COVID-19 Vaccines and Myocarditis Risks:

  • Mary Holland [38:17]: Discusses studies indicating significant risks of myocarditis in young men following mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.
  • Candace Owens [40:38]: Argues that COVID-19 vaccines cause permanent heart damage and criticizes ongoing mandates.

• FDA and CDC Actions:

  • Jimmy Dore [27:59]: References changes in vaccine labeling and the CDC's recommendations for pregnant women and children.
  • Candace Owens [34:41]: Praises Lynn Redwood for her role in advocating against thimerosal and vaccine safety concerns.

Notable Quotes:

• Mary Holland [24:32]: "The increase in autism is 350% since 2000."
• Candace Owens [21:02]: "Mercury should never have been in vaccination. It’s an incredibly toxic substance."
• Mary Holland [38:17]: "The risk of myocarditis is approximately one in 5,000."

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4. ICE Block App and Media Prosecution Discussion [48:40 – 57:05]

Overview:
The conversation shifts to the introduction of the ICE Block app, designed to alert users about the presence of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents. The segment includes a critique of CNN's promotion of the app and discusses President Trump's threat to prosecute the network.

Key Points:

• ICE Block App Functionality:

  • Mary Holland [49:16]: Describes the app's purpose to notify users when ICE agents are nearby.
  • Jimmy Dore [49:40]: Demonstrates the app's limitations, highlighting its ineffectiveness.

• Trump's Threat to Prosecute CNN:

  • Candace Owens [53:20]: Announces plans to collaborate with the Department of Justice to prosecute CNN for promoting the ICE Block app.
  • Jimmy Dore [54:13]: Criticizes the app's functionality and mocks Trump's rationale for prosecution.

• Media and Government Conflict:

  • The segment satirizes the tension between political factions and media outlets, portraying a scenario where media actions are criminalized.

Notable Quotes:

• Mary Holland [51:31]: "Watch out when Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are spotted within a 5-mile radius."
• Candace Owens [53:20]: "We're going to actually go after them and prosecute them with the partnership of Pam if we can."

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5. Conclusion and Final Remarks [57:05 – End]

Overview:
Jimmy Dore wraps up the episode by reinforcing the discussed topics, encouraging premium memberships, and delivering closing thoughts that emphasize resistance against perceived governmental and media overreach.

Key Points:

• Support for the Show:

  • Jimmy Dore [60:02]: Promotes premium membership for additional content and support.

• Final Thoughts on Immigration and Media:

  • Jimmy Dore [59:57]: Critiques current immigration enforcement practices, advocating for targeting employers rather than workers.
  • Discusses the broader implications of corporate influence on government policies.

Notable Quotes:

• Jimmy Dore [60:53]: "You deserve it."
• Mary Holland [61:42]: "I'm not kidding. Do not freak out."

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Conclusion

This episode of The Jimmy Dore Show presents a blend of satire, conspiracy theories, and critical discussions on current political and social issues. Through engaging dialogue with guests like J.D. Vance, Mary Holland, and Candace Owens, the show challenges mainstream perspectives on healthcare, media influence, and governmental policies, urging listeners to question established narratives and seek alternative viewpoints.

Transcript

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, come see us on tour. Gonna be in Toronto, Red Bank, New Jersey, Northampton, Massachusetts, Concord, New Hampshire, Oxnard, California, Rutherford, New Jersey, New York, New York, Edmonton, Calgary, and vancouver. Go to jimmy dore.com for a link for tickets. Hey, this is Jimmy. Who's this?

[J.D. Vance]

Hey, man, it's J.D. vance again. Boom.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, hello, Mr. Boom. Vice President. How are you.

[J.D. Vance]

Man? I'm doing. I'm doing great, dude. I got to do one of my favorite vice president things yesterday.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[J.D. Vance]

Which is cast a deciding vote in the Senate.

[Jimmy Dore]

You know this.

[J.D. Vance]

I've done it a few times now, but passing the big, beautiful bill in the Senate really was electrifying. I'm not gonna lie, dude. I kind of got a boner.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, wait. Wait till you get your ass handed to you in the Midtown midterms, because all the people you kicked off of Medicare. I mean, Medicaid, actually vote for Trump, so that's not a good thing.

[J.D. Vance]

But anyway, all right, I'll still have a boner. Thank you for that, though. But it was a triumphant moment for Trumpism.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. No.

[J.D. Vance]

Triumph of ICE as this unstoppable force.

[Jimmy Dore]

No.

[J.D. Vance]

That can just sweep people off the street and make them disappear forever, which is, like, totally unprecedented in history.

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm not sure about that.

[J.D. Vance]

Well, no, we looked into it on Wikipedia and, you know, just slashing entitlements like Jason Voorhees, you know, and the rich benefit from it, and we're not even hiding it, dude.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, Jason Voorhees is Friday the 13th. That's his name. I didn't know that's his last name. I didn't know he.

[J.D. Vance]

Well, yeah, he's a person with a full name, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

I didn't know that. Yeah, Everything sounds pretty amazing.

[J.D. Vance]

Thank you. And I was doing my part saying inflammatory shit to defend the bill. All this money we're giving to ICE will save money in the long run because these Mexicans won't get entitlements anymore.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[J.D. Vance]

The regular people getting kicked off of Medicaid is, like I said, minutia.

[Jimmy Dore]

I don't think it's minutia. If people are losing their health coverage by the millions.

[J.D. Vance]

Well, we do not care about them.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, no kidding.

[J.D. Vance]

Just say it now.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[J.D. Vance]

Second term.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yep.

[J.D. Vance]

Yeah. I can call human misery minutia because it's heartless, and that's awesome. And it's especially brilliant because if it does backfire, I can always say I was addressing my wife, Usha, as in all of this other stuff is mine, Usha. And then I just never finished My thought.

[Jimmy Dore]

Very clever.

[J.D. Vance]

Yeah, we're playing 3D chess over here, Jimmy. And the other thing that's good about this whole deal is it shows just how much some of these senators have absolutely become our bitch.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yep.

[J.D. Vance]

They just put the ball gag in themselves and bent over.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. No. All right.

[J.D. Vance]

Lisa Murkowski is our favorite. He's the most hated politician in America right now because she voted for it, but she knew she had no choice and she's mad at the people questioning her. Did you see her get all snarly like a cornered cat?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, I did.

[J.D. Vance]

Just a beautiful thing to behold. And then Trump turns around and announces a 60 day ceasefire in Gaza. You're welcome, leftists. Oh, that thing that Biden wouldn't even do. Well, Donald Trump just did it. You're welcome.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, honestly, I don't care about the motivation. Credit to anyone who can stop the killing over there.

[J.D. Vance]

I know, I know. It's a beautiful thing because Trump can also make his enemies mad by doing good things, inarguably positive things that will piss these people off.

[Jimmy Dore]

Pretty much.

[J.D. Vance]

And at the end of the day, that's what it's really about, just pissing people off. Dude, I don't know if you saw, but a couple of weeks ago, I did some epic trolling. It was. It was insane, man.

[Jimmy Dore]

What happened?

[J.D. Vance]

Okay, so there's this other site like Twitter called Blue Sky Social. Have you heard of it?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, I have. All my ass, all the libs who.

[J.D. Vance]

Got mad at Twitter because Elon Musk or far right accounts or whatever, I just couldn't stand it anymore.

[Jimmy Dore]

I know.

[J.D. Vance]

Left Twitter and went to Blue Sky. Can you imagine, basically the most emotionally fragile people in the world online and said, hey, let's create the pussiest website known to mankind?

[Jimmy Dore]

Essentially, yes.

[J.D. Vance]

So I create an account just to fuck around. Okay? So literally, I show up on Blue sky and I become the most blocked account on there, and I hadn't even posted anything yet.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wow.

[J.D. Vance]

Yeah. Like I said, pussy Central. But then I started posting and of course the first thing I post about was the Supreme Court case the trans lobby lost about child sex changes in Tennessee. Obviously, people go crazy. They have this little weakling paradise for liberals and leftists, and then boom, J.D. vance shows up and starts talking shit about trans.

[Jimmy Dore]

I bet they did not care for that over there.

[J.D. Vance]

No, dude, they did not. They were freaking out, man. Blocking me, yelling at me. Some people were unconsolable. They had to create little support groups, break out the smelling salts. A bad person said bad thing on Blue Sky. Oh, no.

[Jimmy Dore]

Sounds like you're having fun over there, Jimmy.

[J.D. Vance]

I was like a pig in shit. My vice presidential mandate to make people mad dominated an entire website for a day or two. If you love what you do, Jimmy, you never work a day in your life.

[Jimmy Dore]

Amen to that, brother.

[J.D. Vance]

Amen, brother. Well, since you're the only person I don't make mad, I should probably cut this call short and get back to work. I've been meaning to check out threads, see what the giant pussy situation is over there. Maybe I can rile up some lefties. Anyway, Usha sends her love. Have a great summer. Keep it clever, Trevor. Boom.

[Candace Owens]

Establishment media sucks.

[August Lightin]

August Lightin.

[Jimmy Dore]

So good luck. Bullshit. We can for why he's fomenting this. Watch and see as his jack off the medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on. It's the chimney door show. Candace Owens said Trump gave her a call over her coverage of McCrone's wife's. Here we go. Ready?

[Mary Holland]

And I get another message that's like, hey, keep your phone on. And anyways, this phone call is coming from Florida. Pick up the phone and lo and.

[Jimmy Dore]

Behold.

[Mary Holland]

You know, so here's what happened. I, I, I'm negotiating this thing. I'm negotiating Ukraine and Russia, and you wouldn't believe how many, how many parts are part. It is President Donald J. Trump. He is calling me. And in true President Trump fashion, he jumps right into the narrative.

[Jimmy Dore]

The yeah, you wouldn't believe how many moving parts there are in this piece. Process. A lot of parts. Lot of ends, a lot of outs, lot of dangly bits to trim. Any way you slice it.

[August Lightin]

She says that later.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, here we go now.

[Mary Holland]

Hey, how you do just like jumps right into the narrative of exactly how this went down. I am literally, I. It is hard to catch my breath to comprehend that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, so let's, let's unstrap this. I mean, unpack.

[Mary Holland]

Ago I'm ending a series about Brigitte Macron. And for. And now I'm speaking to the President. And the topic of conversation, no matter which way you want to slice it, is about Macron's wife.

[Jimmy Dore]

Any way you want to slice it. Come on. It's a matter of penis.

[August Lightin]

It just writes. They write themselves penis.

[Mary Holland]

I mean, there's no other way to say it, right? Anyway, it's about Macron's wife's penis. I mean, there's no other way to say it, right? Anyways, I have Macron. I like Macron. We're speaking at the White House, and I'm Walking him to his car, and, you know, he says to me, Mr. President, can I speak to you for a second? I say, of course. You can speak to me about anything.

[Candace Owens]

What's going on?

[Mary Holland]

Moron wants to have a little sidebar. And then Macron says to him, Mr. President, do you know Candace Owens? And I say, yes, yes, of course I know Candace Owens. What's going on? And he continues his narrative, and he tells me that Emmanuel Macron is requesting, to his face, that I stop speaking about his wife. And one of the things Trump said is, like, you know, he tells me, you know, she's old, and this is really, really impacting her. And then he said, you know, I saw her, you know. Cause I saw her up close, and she looks like a woman to me. She looks like a woman to me. I. I had dinner with her at the top of the Eiffel Tower. And I explained to him that she has had this amazing doctor who specializes in transgenderism, surgeries, or feminization procedures. I'm talking to the President about this, guys. This is crazy.

[Candace Owens]

This is wacky.

[Mary Holland]

And I said to Trump, and I will be honest, that at that moment, I realized that one day this is going to go into my autobiography. And so I got to say something funny. And I just said. I said to him, you know, respectfully, Mr. President, it's not my fault that he married someone with a penis.

[Jimmy Dore]

Really.

[Mary Holland]

Close to getting this thing done. And he throws in the art of the deal type stuff. He starts complimenting me. He said, melania loves you. She says, you're so beautiful. You're so beautiful. I said, thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. You know, compliments will get you everywhere in life, is my mentality here. And then I say to him, what I've agreed to already in the back of my head, I say, look, I. I'm happy to do this for the short. Obviously, I don't want to have on my conscience that less Christian men could have died in the east if I just shut up. That's a weird thing to say, but I'm very clear.

[Jimmy Dore]

This is. This might be a stupid question, but how on earth would Macron's wife's dick figure into the Ukrainian peace process? Is it that big?

[August Lightin]

Say that to Macron's wife's dick's face, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

I mean, okay, I don't. I don't. I'll be honest. I don't give a shit about the Ukraine war anymore. I just want to see where this.

[Candace Owens]

Goes to him, that this is.

[Mary Holland]

This is going to be short term. And that I expect, fully expect that in a few months I will be able to speak about this. He was about to commit to that, but then it felt to me like someone in the background was like, no, we need this conversation to stop altogether. And he doesn't say no or yes, but he just says, you know, that he really needs to work with Macron long term. And they have this long working relationship. And I was very clear, this is not long term for me. Like, you're, if you're close to this deal, ink it, let's get it done. And then he sort of offers at the end. He says, hey, maybe I can come on your podcast one day. I'm great for ratings. They're so Trumpy. And to give yourself a compliment. So I give him the Trump right back. And I say, respectfully, Mr. President, I'm apparently good for ratings, too, because you've got, you've got a leader of a country, the president of the country, asking you to ask me to do a favor.

[August Lightin]

So great, great point. That's a great point. Don't know what it has to do with Ukraine. So Ukraine, they can't have peace because of something with that guy's wife's dick, which we know is real because that call Trump just made.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, well. And you know, the big deal here is that Candace has the biggest balls. That's what it comes down to. There's the irony. She's got, she's, she's swinging the biggest dick in this conversation.

[August Lightin]

Jimmy. I nominate, I said Trump should nominate her for the dong finder general because when she senses there's a dong out there, a secret dong, she don't stop till she clenches on and don't let go for dear life.

[Jimmy Dore]

So some people are, some people are trying to say this is bad for her. Even if it's true, she's just tanked her career. She's on YouTube. She doesn't need anybody for a career. She's got her.

[August Lightin]

David, I have to tell you.

[Jimmy Dore]

What's that?

[August Lightin]

I don't trust David. 1-429-7963 yeah, this sounds like an operative saying something because no real person doesn't want to know about that.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. If the president asked you for something in confidence, that is good. First of all, Trump had to know she was going to say something. No, Trump. I'm sure Trump didn't say hey, off the record, because if he did say off the record, then she wouldn't be saying this because she would have to agree if Someone says to you, and I'm sure she considers herself a journalist, if someone says to you, hey, I'll tell you something off the record, you have to agree to that, that that means that you can't say what they're about to tell you. So apparently Trump didn't say off the record.

[August Lightin]

He asked for a favor.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he asked for a favor. And maybe, maybe Trump doesn't actually like Macron and he wanted her to say this shit.

[August Lightin]

Jimmy, I think you're onto something. Because if you recall, when he took those secret documents that the FBI made a fake thing out of when they raided Mar A Lago, and I thought this was maybe, like, silly, but now I'm gonna reexamine it because they said part of those secret documents about Macron's wife's dick, I swear to God, that was a thing at the time and I thought nothing of it. But now you don't think there might be something to that, now that we know it affects peace in Ukraine.

[Jimmy Dore]

So, yeah, I don't believe that this is a real person. David. 1-429-7963. I don't believe that's a real person. Why would you bother to put all those numbers behind your name if it.

[August Lightin]

But why would you say that? Dude, David, you. You don't even have the dick of a Macron's wife is what I'm taking from this.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[August Lightin]

Oh, if you revealed it, you're done. By the way, everyone who works in government, please snitch. Please betray the vile blood oath you took to these evil people and snitch. All good in the world has come from snitches. Nothing. All the good we know about what evil our government does because someone had the courage to snitch. You know, Eric Snowden had to run to Russia. Julian Assange, who told us a lot of stuff we need to know. That guy took a lot of heat. You know, that's a hero. The snitch.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's Edward Snowden. What did I say, Eric? Oh, so either way, let me read the rest of this tweet, because it's funny. Even if it's true, she just tanked her career. If the President asked you for something in confidence that is good for the country and the world, and you revealed it, you're done. I've already unfollowed her and I will not give her another view or nothing. She just proved to all of us that she thinks her career and her success matters more than everyone else. She just betrayed our president for traction.

[August Lightin]

Fake it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Got 2000 likes, which I'm sure most of those are fake. I'm sure there's idiots.

[August Lightin]

I liked it. But that. That sentiment is not a real human sentiment. That's a. An op.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes.

[August Lightin]

And we know Obama deployed 10,000 troops to Twitter when they signed the Smith Munt Modernization Act.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here, America first at USA Always Wins says, why would one world leader go to another world leader and tell them to start talking about their wife? You could just say she's lying. And yet she's a crazy podcaster. But McCrone specifically asked Trump to talk to her. This tells me that Candace is onto something, something she doesn't want to get out.

[August Lightin]

Of course we know it's true now because of this. That's the most insane historical presidential story since Trump saying the F word at that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[August Lightin]

Outside the helicopter.

[Jimmy Dore]

And, and, and, and now everybody knows that she was in her 40s and he was like 14 when they got 15. She was 15 when they got together. That's.

[August Lightin]

It's a terrible story without the dick.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's. That's already considered is that. That's a. You're a pederast when you do that.

[August Lightin]

If it's a man. If Brigitte's a man, which I think.

[Jimmy Dore]

Brigitte is a man. So. Yeah, that. So just, just the tr. Just the part that everybody agrees to on the story is already horrible, which I didn't even know until Candace Owen started talking about it. So the part that's actually that Macron agrees to is horrible.

[August Lightin]

Yeah. Remember Mary Kay Letourneau and her student and she went to prison because she wouldn't stay away from them.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[August Lightin]

Because. And now imagine instead of her going to jail, they ruled France and it affected the Ukraine peace process. Am I in cuckoo land?

[Jimmy Dore]

Imagine instead of her going to jail, she ruled France.

[August Lightin]

What in that. What honestly, in the name of Macron's wife's is going on.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy door comedy.com clicking on join premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. So big news is that the CDC Vaccine panel voted to take the mercury preservatives out of their flu shots. So that's the. And so just to let you know what mercury is in the. Because it's in your vaccines and not good and how not good. Well, here, here, let's, let's find out.

[Mary Holland]

But the reason that it's put into the, it was actually in the MMR vaccines and some of the flu vaccines is because it's an antimicrobial. They'll kill everything. So maybe that was part of vax. It will kill everything, will kill the microbes in a petri dish. So in order to, because this is one of the realities of vaccine manufacture, which I want your audience to understand, is that vaccines, while it might look like just a clear liquid, in order to make a vaccine you have to have either a cow that you put ulcers on and scrape the pus off, or you can evolve it as it had evolved to maybe getting, you know, some tumorous cells that came out of a cocker spaniel's kidney or monkey balls or monkey kidneys. And you plate those cells out and then you inoculate it with want to grow to put in your vaccine later. But in order to keep those cells alive, you have to put animal blood on it. You have to put different nutrients on top of it. You have to put antibiotics, canamycin, you know, things like that related to the COVID here, mercury. Okay. So in the end you can kill, you can make sure when you have your final product that if you put a little bit of mercury in there that it's less likely for any of the fungus or the spores or the bacteria or the adventitious viruses that you didn't know about that were there before will be in your final product. Wonderful. So you have a product now that you can be not completely sure has any of these deadly microbes, but now has mercury, which the only places it's actually okay to have on, on the planet mercury is in vaccines, your tooth or toxic landfill. So if you were to drop a vaccine at a vaccine clinic onto the floor, the Hazmat guys would come in you and you're not allowed to just pick it up. If it's a mercury containing vaccine, hazmat people have to come and take that away. Yet we're okay to take, you know, a portion of that vial and inject it into, you know, a child, a three month old child. How does that work? It doesn't sound logical.

[Jimmy Dore]

Doesn't sound logical. So let me bring in Mary Holland, she's author speaker and CEO of the Children's Health Defense, an organization focused on legal strategies to defend children's health and obtain justice for those injured. Before joining the Children's health defense in 2019, she taught at NYU School of Law for 17 years and lectured at Columbia Law School on international human rights advocacy. Welcomed back to the show, Mary Holland. Hi, Mary.

[Candace Owens]

Great to be here.

[Jimmy Dore]

So this is a big deal, right, that they're, they're getting. So now they, they had taken the mercury out of most of the flu shots, but there was still in some of them. Why would they take it out of most but not all of them?

[Candace Owens]

Exactly. So they took it out as a preservative in 2001, except in the flu sh in multi dose vials. And as Suzanne Humphries were just explaining, you know, to kill bacteria because they'd open it and give one dose, but they'd still have two or three more doses to give. It didn't at this point it was down to 3%, but it wasn't 3% from 2001 until now. It went down gradually. The amount of mercury being taken out. And this is a 30 year battle, Jimmy, that's now been ended, which is fantastic. Mercury should never have been in vaccination. I think, as you can appreciate from what was just said, it's an incredibly toxic substance. And we were injecting it into, you know, infants, day old babies in the hepatitis B shot before they took it out.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so the mercury in the vaccines is. It's called thimerosal, correct?

[Candace Owens]

Right, it's called thimerosal. It's half ethylmercury by weight. So 50% of thimerosal is made by Lilly, was never properly tested and, and it started to be used. And literally what some of the people at the CDC acknowledged was they just never added up the cumulative amount of mercury that these kids were getting in the various shots. After 1986, when Congress gave a liability shield, the number of vaccines escalated dramatically. And a lot of them contain mercury. They also contain aluminum. There's a synergistic effect between mercury and aluminum. And a lot of neurological injuries went along with this rise of the, and the number of vaccines.

[Jimmy Dore]

And I remember a time when cable news hosts used to thank RFK Jr. For fighting this to try to get mercury out of vaccines and specifically thimerosal. In fact, here's a video. This is gonna be a little loud, so bring it down a little bit. Here is RFK Jr. Speaking with Joe Scarborough when he hosted a show called Scarborough country on MSNBC. Let's watch. My son, born in 1991, has a slight form of autism called Asperger's. But it seems. And again, when I was practicing law and also when I was in Congress, parents would constantly come to me and they'd bring me videotape to their children. And they were all around the age of my son or younger generation. Happened in 1989. Exactly the generation. What happened was the vaccine schedule was increased. We went up from receiving about 10 vaccines in our generation to these kids received 24 vaccines. And they all had this thimerosal in them, this mercury. And nobody bothered to do an analysis of what the cumulative impact of all that mercury was doing to kids. As it turns out, we are injecting our children with 400 times the amount of mercury that FDA or EPA consider safe. A child on his first day that he's born is injected with a hepatitis b shot. Under EPA guidelines, he would have to be 275 pounds to safely absorb that shot. And yet we're just constantly pumping our kids with these vaccines. What happened was that in 1988, one in every 2,500American children had autism. Today, one in every 106, 66 children have autism. And now today it's one in 31.

[Candace Owens]

31. It's one in 31. It's one in 12 and a half boys. Jimmy in California and since there was this secret meeting about what do we do about thimerosal back in 2000, we just did a retrospective on this. 25 years later, you know, the increase in autism is 350% since 2000. So the CDC has been absolutely had its head in the sand. And so interesting to see that from msnbc. See Jimmy right after. For a lot of different reasons, msnbc, you know, would now call that a conspiracy theory.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. And so he. Watch this. It even gets better. There's a little bit more to this video. Okay, get ready, Chris. And plus, one in six children have other kinds of learning disorders, other kinds of neurological disorders, speech delay, language disorders, add, hyperactivity. That all seem to be connected.

[J.D. Vance]

That are all connected.

[Jimmy Dore]

The science shows are all connected to autism. You know, Bobby, you and I could, could debate a thousand different issues, whether it's Terri Schiavo or the environment. I think would agree on the environment. But in this case, you've got the federal government coming in saying, well, there's no, really, there's no good science. And of course, in politics, science always gets diluted. Why isn't the federal government stepped up and worked more because, listen, Bobby, I can't prove it tonight. You can't prove it, but intuitively, you look at the spy, you look at what happened with the Marisol, there is no doubt in my mind. Maybe it's two years from now, maybe it's five years from now, maybe it's ten years from now. We're going to find out that the Marisol causes, in my opinion, autism. You know, what the science is. So there's Joe Scarborough saying that vaccines cause autism because his kid has a form of it called Asperger's. And it all exploded in 1989 when he would have hundreds and hundreds of parents coming with the same age. And it all started in 1989, same age kids with these autism and Asperger's. And he's saying, we're going to prove it, not today, not tomorrow, but someday, that this is caused by thimerosal, which is another way of saying it's being caused by the vaccines we're giving our children. That's what Joe Scarborough used to say. Jon Stewart used to thank RFK Jr. On behalf of the parents for doing this kind of work, like, that's all over, because that was before Big Pharma completely controlled the narrative. And now they fund Joe Scarborough to the tune of 70% of his paycheck. Take it where you want, Mary.

[Candace Owens]

Yeah, I think that things drastically changed, changed after Obamacare. You know, back in the early 2000s, this was not really a partisan issue. If anything, the Democratic Party was more favorable to this than the Republican. Now there's been a complete reversal on this, and unfortunately, it really is. It's become a very partisan issue. And Bobby Kennedy is now serving in Donald Trump's administration in a Republican dominated administration and really trying to get the science done. And what Bobby Kennedy has said, he's acknowledged this one in 31. This is federal data. And he's told us in his first press conference as secretary of HHS that by September we would start to really understand, understand he would give us some information about what the science says. And what he's trying to do right now is really analyze massive amounts of data that he has access to within HHS to prove, you know, what happens after a kid gets hep B or HIV or DPT or polio or mmr. What is the, you know, if you can show that with Medicaid records, you can show that with federal data.

[Jimmy Dore]

So I just want to, I'm going to show you how this corporate news covered this, them voting to take the Mercury out of the flu vaccine. I'm gonna wait till you see how they cover it. But right before this, I'm gonna show you a 10 second clip from Dr. John Campbell. He's gonna give you a little information on the flu vaccine and how good it is. Let's listen if you want to watch.

[Mary Holland]

Large study at the Cleveland Clinic found.

[Jimmy Dore]

Out that the flu vaccine, the influenza.

[Mary Holland]

Vaccine over last winter, wasn't that effective.

[Jimmy Dore]

In fact, it had a negative efficacy of 26.9%.

[Mary Holland]

In other words, if you took this.

[Jimmy Dore]

Flu vaccine, you were 26.9% more likely.

[Mary Holland]

More likely to get influenza.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, Yippee. So that's their great flu vaccine. Which, the fact that they're allowed to use the term vaccine is mind bending, right?

[Candace Owens]

Mind bending.

[Jimmy Dore]

Mind bending. Because not only did last year's vaccine not prevent you from getting it, it made it more likely that you would.

[Candace Owens]

Get it more likely. And this was a huge study, Jimmy, of all of the employees in the Cleveland Clinic and you know, some who took the shot and some who didn't. And so this is really definitive information. And in a good year, Jimmy, these are only up to about 50% effective. And then you have all the risk of adverse events from the shots. So, you know, we just don't have this right yet. That's clear.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here's how the corporate news, here's from cnbc. Here's how they covered the vote at the CDC to take mercury out of the vaccines. A revamped government panel of vaccine advisors with newly appointed immunization skeptics has voted against a mercury containing shot ingredient that the anti vaccine movement has long targeted. The group called the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices or acip, voted Thursday to recommend annual single dose flu vaccines in Americans to Americans and against influenza shots containing thimerosal mercury even though there is no evidence of harm from that preservative. Did you just hear Joe Scarborough correct?

[Candace Owens]

Yeah. It's ridiculous. Injecting mercury. Sorry, finish.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. It was his first ACIP meeting since health. It was the first ACIP meeting since Health and Human Services Secretary RFK gutted the panel and stacked it with new members including several well known vaccine skeptics. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention still needs to sign off on the recommendation. If the agency does, it would affect roughly 4 to 5% of the US flu vaccine supply. The rest. So that sounds like. Oh, well that's, that's not a big deal, right? Well, listen to what they say. The rest of the nation's flu shots were thimerosal free during the last season of the virus. So why, why can't you make that so? Well, they are doing it. But when it comes to vaccinating an entire country, quote, small percentages matter. Dr. Sean O', Leary, an infectious disease expert with the American Academy of Pediatrics, told reporters last week. And I'm sure he's not being paid off at all by the big pharma industry. If the few, if the few thimerosal containing flu shots were removed from the market, that would inevitably lead to fewer people being vaccinated, at least in the short term, perhaps longer term, and subsequently more hospitalizations and death. I just showed you the biggest study ever showed you that the flu shot actually makes it more likely for you to get sick. The recommendation also reinso this is just a liar. And I will guarantee you that this guy's getting money somewhere. This Dr. O' Leary is getting money somewhere to lie to you about mercury in vaccines and the efficacy of the flu vaccine in general. Because the efficacy of the flu vaccine not good. The recommendation also reinforces long standing unfounded fears that the substance can lead to developmental disabilities such as. So they're saying that putting mercury into a baby is a good idea. That's what CNBC is saying. And that if you have a free fear of putting mercury in a bit, remember what the first video said that I showed you? That if you spill a mercury containing vaccine, you have to call a hazmat team to come kick it up. But you can inject it into a baby. And CNBC says you're nuts. You're nuts if you think there's a problem with sticking mercury into a baby. Kennedy's vaccine skepticism comes full circle with the panel's vote. A decade before stepping into his current role, he published a book that called for the removal of thimerosal mercury from shots and linked it to developmental disorders. A very common anti vaccine talking point is around thimerosal. So that's a very clear strategy to sow distrust in vaccines. Let me just show. So that's how the mainstream news and let me just show you one more quick video about how great this flu vaccine is. This is from almost 20 years ago now on CBS News. And of course this woman doesn't work for CBS anymore because she's about to tell you this.

[Candace Owens]

Here's what scientists have found. Over 20 years, the percentage of seniors getting flu shots increased sharply from 15% to 65%. It stands to reason that flu deaths among the elderly should have taken a dramatic dip Making an X graph like this instead. Flu deaths among the elderly continue to climb. It was hard to believe. So researchers at the National Institutes of Health set out to do a study, adjusting for all kinds of factors that could be masking the true benefits of the shots. But no matter how they crunched the numbers, they got the same disappointing result. Flu shots have not reduced deaths among the elderly.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's your great flu shot, CNBC and Dr. Liar O'. Leary. And so that's how the. So that's how they covered sticking mercury into babies. CNBC is all for it because they're completely bought and paid for by the people who profit off of sticking mercury into a baby. Take it where you want. Mary.

[Candace Owens]

Yeah, so that was Cheryl Atkinson, who has recently written a book about science and how it's manipulated. And you know, that piece from o' Leary is just straight up propaganda. It's, it's laced with lies. Anybody with common sense understands that injecting mercury into a baby is insane. It's just straight up insane. And it's, this has been a 30 year issue, Jimmy. This didn't start yesterday and it was really rewarding to see Lynn Redwood, who is the first president of Children's Health Defense, speak to the ACIP committee and get this vote that they'd be taken out. She started a group with others called safe minds about 25 years ago, 20, 30 years ago, before this meeting, when the CDC tried to hide all of this back in 2000 and Bobby Kennedy published the article in Salon and rolling stone in 2005, specifically about thimerosal deadly immunity. And that's when he became Persona non grata. Understand that. It was when he started talking about vaccines and mercury and the problems. That is when he became sort of enemy of the media, which was, you know, pharma funded before that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Bobby Kennedy was a hero of the left and the environmental movement because he successfully sued big chemical companies. He got the Hudson river cleaned up, got the PCBs out of the. And in fact, in 2008, Politico reported that Barack Obama was considering RFK Jr. For a post at the EPA, at the head of the EPA. So that's how, that's how powerful big pharma propaganda is. And their money is that they got a guy who was a hero to the left to be turned into a complete pariah. And most people don't even know why. They have no idea that they've been propagandized and they've ingested that propaganda and then they vomit it back out in their hatred for RFK Jr. When he's actually the guy sticking his chin out, telling them the truth. But that's, you know, that's a story that's as old as human race. The person who tells the truth is the person who gets their teeth kicked in. And that's what's happening. And. And people forget that there. There was a time when even celebrities would speak about it. Remember Jim Carrey would speak about?

[Candace Owens]

Oh, absolutely.

[Jimmy Dore]

And here's Jenny McCarthy. Yeah, and Jenny McCarthy. And here's. And here's Robert De Niro. Remember, he went on the Today show. Watch this. Go watch this again. It's the result of.

[J.D. Vance]

It's not about.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's not questioning how people, some people got autism, how the vaccines are dangerous if not given dangerous to certain people who are more susceptible. And they don't. Nobody seems to want to address that or they say they've addressed it and it's a closed issue, but it doesn't seem to be because there are many people who will come out and say, no. I saw my kid change, like overnight. I saw what happened and I should have done something, and I didn't. So there's more to this than meets the eye, believe me. Is that the experience you had, Robert? Something changed overnight. My wife says that I don't remember, but my child is autistic and every kid is different. But there is something there. There's something there that people aren't addressing. And for me to get so upset here today on the Today show, you guys, means there's something there. That's all I wanted, was the movie to be seen. People can make their own judgment, but.

[J.D. Vance]

You must see it. And other.

[Jimmy Dore]

There are other films, other things that also just document, show, you know, it's not such a simple thing. So that's when they were trying to get the movie vaxxed into the Tribeca Film Festival. And he was out there fighting for it. And then after he did this interview, he got a phone call and they pulled the movie. And he's never talked about it again because he knows his career would have been over.

[Candace Owens]

He did for a little bit, and then he stopped. Jimmy. He actually went with Bobby to D.C. long ago. But I want to tell your viewers, we have vax, vax2 and vax3 on our website. Childrenshealthdefense.org goes to CHD TV. I highly recommend, as Robert De Niro said, that people go watch that film and watch the next two because it really chronicles what's happened to over the last 15 years in public awareness and the last film really focuses on Covid. But yeah, you know, anybody in Hollywood, their career is over. If they want to talk about this, it's over.

[Jimmy Dore]

Another big happening this week at the FDA is that they've. They're now requiring different labeling on the COVID vaccine. I put it in quotes. FDA approves required updated warning and labeling of MRNA COVID 19 vaccines because of myocarditis and pericarditis. And so here is Vinny Prasad, who's the head of the vaccine over at the cdc. Is it cdc? Yeah, it doesn't matter. Fda, fda. So here's what he had to say when they started. He gave us a little background on when they. Of all the science that had been buried about the myocarditis and pericarditis, that was being signaled and that the, the government was suppressing. And some of the signals were coming from the military. They were saying, hey, these people are, we're injecting them with the COVID So let's listen to what he says.

[Mary Holland]

The rates of post vaccine myocarditis in men between the ages of 13 and 24 from 2021 have been documented in a number of publications and public documents. In August of 2021, in an FDA regulatory action, we document that based on the health insurance claims optimum data set, the rate of post vaccination myocarditis from the Pfizer Biontech vaccine was approaching 200 cases per million, or approximately one in 5,000.

[Jimmy Dore]

One in 5,000 persons or from young men who are getting the Pfizer COVID vaccine, 1 in 5,000 were experiencing myocarditis. One in 5,000, that's 200 per million. That's an unbelievable statistic, is it not, Mary? It is.

[Candace Owens]

You know, our view is that these shots really should not be on the market anymore. They are so injurious. But they were causing heart attacks, heart disease in young men, inflammation of the heart muscle and the muscles around it. And the CDC was hiding the data. We did work to uncover this. Senator Ron Johnson just held a subcommittee hearing about this. This is scandalous, really. They buried the data to keep people taking the shots without knowing that there was a real risk, especially for young men, but really for anybody.

[Jimmy Dore]

And there are colleges last year that were still mandating that young men had to take this COVID vaccine or else they couldn't go to that college. And this data was out there. It was.

[Candace Owens]

You're absolutely right. I'm very grateful. The Trump administration did issue an executive order at the beginning of this year saying they weren't going to give federal funding to higher education institutions that continue to mandate the COVID shot. So that was a small step in the right direction. But this issue isn't over by a long shot, Jimmy. This, this whole MRNA platform really has, you know, just lots and lots of problems that have not yet been adequately addressed at the governmental level.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here he's got. It gets even scarier.

[Mary Holland]

Prospective study in Hong Kong published in 2021 showed post vaccination myocarditis was approximately 1 in 3,000 for the second Pfizer dose in 1318 year old men.

[Jimmy Dore]

So in Hong Kong they did a study and it was 1 in 3,000 young men between 13 and 18 had a myocarditis event after their vaccine. 1 in 3,000. This is crazy. You know, back in. Go ahead.

[Candace Owens]

No, I was going to say you don't get to regrow your heart muscle.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Candace Owens]

These are permanent disabilities that these people are going to suffer. This, this is not something that you can recover from. It's really not. So these people may need heart transplants.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let's get. There's a little. He has more to say.

[Mary Holland]

And using the VSD vaccine safety data link data, Sharf and colleagues showed approximately 1 in 2000 risk of post second mRNA dose into 18 to 24 year old men.

[Jimmy Dore]

1 in 2000 in 18 to 24 year old men. So these studies have been out there. So there's more. He's got. This is unbelievable. One in 2000. Do you know when the swine flu came out in 1976, one in 100,000 people had an adverse event and they pulled it here. One in 2000.

[Candace Owens]

And it's still being. And it's still on the market, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

Still on the market here on the market. He's got more to say.

[Mary Holland]

There's an elegant analysis put together by the team led by Tracy Beth Hogan, others of post vaccine Mark Harditis rates reported in 2021. And basically you see across different demographic categories with the far right being men between the ages of 12 and 17, an elevated risk that in some publications.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here, here's the men between 12 and 17. Do you see? So you have to look, you can't. So what they would do is they would take Everybody, everybody from 0 to 120 years old and they would give you the stat for them. But if you give a stat for just young men, it is chilling what they were doing to those young boys. And they knew it, that they were doing it because the data was there. He's grabbing. This isn't new data.

[Candace Owens]

You're right.

[Jimmy Dore]

So hang on.

[Mary Holland]

300 per million active surveillance from Hong Kong confirmed a broadly similar risk. Men between the ages of 13 and 18 a 1 in 2700 had experienced myocarditis and were hospitalized following dose 2 of the Pfizer product and the vaccine safety data link in. A very interesting analysis by Scharf and colleagues was found to have initially missed 64% of myoin pericarditis cases. The authors note quote an Incomplete list of ICD10 codes and delays in hospital claims data were responsible for the difference between the VSB reported estimate and a careful chart review estimate. Stratification by demographic factors is key to unpacking the myocarditis risk from COVID 19 in an analysis led by Benjamin Knudsen and myself prior to joining the fda, we analyzed publications that examined the risk of vaccines and myocarditis that had zero stratifiers. In other words, looking at all the doses given in the entire population all the way to four stratifiers which include looking only at men in certain age range and only certain products and certain doses. And as you can see there is an association between looking in the right subpopulation where this is a known safety concern and the actual rate with which you'll find the safety signal.

[Jimmy Dore]

So what he's saying is that of course the establishment didn't want you to look at the population of people that this was actually happening to at the highest rates. They wanted to you to look at everybody and instead of looking at the people that it was really affecting. So here's, here's his take home. He has this. Here's his what you should here's your take home from his presentation. It was a 15 minute presentation. Here's what he says. The takeaways from it are assess the.

[Mary Holland]

Benefit risk balance take home points. The FDA concludes that the 2023-2024 MRNA vaccines have an unadjusted crude risk of myocarditis of 27 per million in young men. This risk has persisted across all the doses of the product that we've examined. Vaccine induced myocarditis, when leading to hospitalization is associated with baseline and persistent late gadolinium enhancement in the majority of patients in our funded study. LGE is a known poor prognostic marker generally, though the full implication of it is unknown in the specific setting. Because of these factors, an SLC was issued. FDA's SLC was initiated by career FDA staff. It represents the latest action.

[Jimmy Dore]

So can you remind Me. What does SLC stand for? Do you know what that stands for, Mary?

[Candace Owens]

I'm not sure what slc.

[Jimmy Dore]

I looked it up three times today. I wrote it down and I don't have it in front of me. But it's basically, it just means that they're changing the warning label on the.

[Candace Owens]

COVID So, you know, which is, which is good news. It's a step in the right direction. It doesn't get us to where we need to go. Especially because these shots actually, again, much like what you were showing in the flu shot, there's very strong evidence showing that the more the COVID shots you get, the more likely you are to get Covid. They don't stop transmission. So this is so crazy that we're still even offering things that don't work to people for whom it can cause permanent heart damage.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's what sl, SLC stands for. Safety, labeling changes. Changes. That's what the SLC stuff. So they, they're doing, they're changing the label, the warning label on the COVID vaccines because of this, which is great.

[Candace Owens]

And you know, they, they also, the CDC also changed the recommendation for pregnant women and for children for the COVID shots. Finally, it's now shared decision making. But again, they're still on the market. And really we haven't had the reckoning that we have to have about what.

[Jimmy Dore]

Went down during COVID and we never will. But Nicholas Holscher says the FDA, he's from the McCullough Institute, he says the FDA still ignores that COVID 19 vaccine induced myocarditis can be fatal. Refuses to issue a Class 1 recall or even add a black box warning. Our peer reviewed autopsy study proved a causal link between COVID 19 vaccines and death from myocarditis. So then he, he links that study.

[Candace Owens]

He'S an epidemiologist and he's doing some really terrific work. Yeah, this is really troubling, Jimmy. You know, the cat is out of the bag. These shots are incredibly dangerous and they don't work. But they're still slow walking this. And you know, I regret to say that, frankly.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, I have to correct you, Mary, that the vaccine is, it does work. It is safe and effective according to YouTube scientists, even though now the FDA and the CDC are saying certainly different things, but I have to inform everybody, or else I'll have my channel yanked, that the COVID vaccine is safe and effective. And no, you're right, it doesn't stop transmission or contraction like they said it did, but it will slow transmission and contraction. Whatever that means. And it'll keep you from being seriously ill, hospitalized or death. So there, I think I've met my obligation.

[Candace Owens]

Good for you.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there you go. And, and no, I'm not winking as I say this. Well, listen, I really appreciate you making time. I think this is, you know, everybody, is everybody I know everybody in Maha, everybody who was excited about RFK getting the position there. We're, we're anxious for quicker change. Right. And it's coming slowly, but it's coming. So this is the first time in my life that the fda, the CDC and the HHS is going in the right direction. So these are huge. I think, again, yeah, we, a lot of people want to see things happen faster, just like right here, Nicholas Hutchinson. And a lot of people want to see them just yank a lot of these products off the market. But we're going in the right direction. We're actually, they actually are starting to rebuild trust. And so I have to give kudos. It's the one bright spot for me in the Trump administration right now.

[Candace Owens]

They certainly are working in the right direction and Bobby Kennedy's heart is in the right place on these issues. And I think the interview that he just gave on Monday with Tucker Carlson was very revealing. He really knows a lot about the, this stuff and he's absolutely working to make make people healthier, make America healthier again.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, Mary Holland from the Children's Defense, Children's Health Defense. I really appreciate you taking time. Everybody should check out your website. Go watch vax 1, 2 and 3 over there and it'll blow your mind. So thanks for sticking your chin out. Thanks for making time for us and we'll talk to you again soon.

[Candace Owens]

Thanks, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

In case you don't know, someone has made an I, an app that will track ice. So if you want to stay away from ice, you can. Here, I'll show you. Here, here, here. Cnn. So that's it. That's it right there. There's the app you could get. It's called ice block and it's got a four star rating with only 27 people. I hear it doesn't work. But let's, here's what, here's what the CNN says about it. When I saw what was happening in this country, I wanted to do something to fight back.

[Candace Owens]

Joshua Aaron developed Ice Block.

[Mary Holland]

It's a free crowdsourced app that and.

[Jimmy Dore]

Just a spoiler alert. I'm going to show you a video where Trump says he's going to prosecute CNN for, for airing this report.

[Mary Holland]

Watch Good alerts users when Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are spotted within a 5 mile radius of their location.

[Candace Owens]

Will you just sort of explain what ICE Block is and how it works?

[Jimmy Dore]

Sure. So imagine if you're walking down the street and a notification comes up on your device that says ICE has been spotted four blocks ahead. Instead of continuing down that path, you can turn left or turn around and avoid the situation altogether.

[Mary Holland]

Aaron grew up Jewish and has a.

[Candace Owens]

Background in tech, music and activism.

[Mary Holland]

He says he sees parallels between the Trump administration's immigration crackdown and Nazi Germany.

[Jimmy Dore]

We're literally watching history repeat itself. And so I thought, what if there was an early warning system and that's what became ICE Block? I'm looking at LA now, I'm seeing.

[Mary Holland]

One in East Hollywood and then as.

[Candace Owens]

I zoom out, it's showing me a few others.

[Jimmy Dore]

One of the core principles of the design of this app is 100% anonymity.

[J.D. Vance]

For our user base.

[Jimmy Dore]

As of Today, we have 20,000 users. We're hoping to grow that 10 or 100 times, of course, but there is no signup process, there is no user data collected, there is no user data even captured by our app. Yeah, but doesn't Apple do that? Doesn't Apple capture all that stuff? I could be wrong.

[August Lightin]

He's Jewish and sees similarities to the Nazis in ice. Enforcing the law. Why isn't he working on something with Palestine? That's my question. Because it's fake. It's, I mean, good trap. I'm not for illegals here. I don't understand why the law and people are saying dumb shit like, well, as long as the illegal aliens aren't committing crimes. No, the crime was your illegal motherfucker. Punish the people that hire them.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's what I would do, the right thing. I would go after the people that hire them. But they're not doing that anyway. They're going after low hanging fruit, it looks like. But anyway, they're going like to. So let's, let's listen to have a.

[Candace Owens]

Way of verifying the accuracy of the.

[Mary Holland]

Reports that people are making on the platform.

[Jimmy Dore]

We don't. But what we've done is put some safeguards in place so that people can't, for lack of a better word, spam the database. Every reported sighting is deleted in 4 hours time as you can only report within a 5 mile radius of your own location. Beyond that we have a five minute limit. So when you report a sighting, you can't report another one for five minutes. CNN reached out to ICE for comment.

[Mary Holland]

About the app and Aaron's characterization of its enforcement actions. The agency did not respond.

[Jimmy Dore]

We have also seen the way that.

[Candace Owens]

Many big tech leaders have supported Trump.

[Jimmy Dore]

Donated to him, showed up at the inauguration.

[Mary Holland]

But what you're doing is challenging the policies of the Trump administration. And I wonder what you would say.

[Candace Owens]

To the other leaders and your colleagues in this industry.

[Jimmy Dore]

I think I would say grow a backbone. You can't just be about the money. I understand that you have shareholders to report to. I understand that you have employees that need their paychecks. But at what point do you say enough is enough? Where was this guy when the cops were busting legal pot shops a few years ago anyway? 5. So here's what Trump said about it and the damn secretary. CNN yesterday pushed an app that lets you track where ICE agents are.

[Mary Holland]

Tom Homan was saying that perhaps CNN.

[Jimmy Dore]

Should be prosecuted for that instruction of law enforcement.

[Mary Holland]

Your response? Yeah, we're working with the Department of.

[Candace Owens]

Justice to see if we can prosecute them for that because what they're doing is actively encouraging people to avoid law enforcement activities, operations. And we're going to actually go after them and prosecute them with the partnership of Pam if we can, because what they're doing, we believe is illegal.

[Jimmy Dore]

And they may be prosecuted also for having given false reports on the attack in Iran. They were given totally false reports. It was totally obliterated. And our people have to be celebrated, not come home and say, what do you mean we didn't hit the targets? We hit the targets.

[Mary Holland]

Prison.

[Jimmy Dore]

You know, the pilots came home, they said we hit the target. So they may be very well prosecuted for that. What they did there we think is totally illegal. Okay, let's go. So Trump is. So Trump wants to a prosecute CNN over that report, doing a report about the ISA app, which sounds crazy, but he's also said you should trust him that the Iranian nuclear facility was obliterated. The pilot saw it go boom. That's good enough for me. That is a vaccine user level of critical thinking.

[August Lightin]

Yeah, well, what do you expect?

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's Trump announcing that he's looking into prosecuting CNN for just covering a story to me. But he's saying they're promoting interfering with lawful activity of a police action. They're, they're covering a thing. By the, by the way, is it, is it illegal to do that? I. That that app, first of all. And then the app. Here's somebody who says the app doesn't work. This is the ICE block app that CNN promoted. So they're saying they promoted it instead of reporting instead of just reported. I don't know. Did they?

[August Lightin]

Clearly they're promoting it. I mean, obviously it's such a fake thing. It's probably a trap.

[Jimmy Dore]

You cannot scroll around the map. And it does not save reported sightings. What does this say? Let me look. It's crap. Lol. In other words, it's crap and it doesn't work. So here they give you a little. Here's how it works. So it's setting. So you log in and then it's setting your location. And then where are the reported sightings? So this person goes in to type in a reported sighting. Where this person is going to type in somewhere near where they're at. So Armitage Avenue in 5595 Armitas Avenue. So that's what they typed in. And the note is ice, ice, baby. Lots of lots and lots of ice. And so hey God, Hey God, let's, let's, let's let this play out. And then they go back to it and I guess nothing shows up.

[August Lightin]

It's not to be used for the purpose.

[Jimmy Dore]

And nothing shows up. So they just typed it in and it didn't show up. So this guy underneath also says if you can read it, Zane says, lol. Yeah, I've downloaded it and it's totally worthless. Been messing with it a lot. Never works. Haha. Anyway, that's not the point. I just thought that was interesting. But the point is that Trump wants to. Now he's threatening to process him and Homan. And that's Kristi Noem, right? That's who that is. Yeah. Plastic lady threatening to prosecute CNN for. They say they're promoting that app and he wants to prosecute him for. He says they're lying about the Iran thing.

[August Lightin]

Okay, what are they saying about Iran?

[Jimmy Dore]

He, he said that the, the CNN said that they didn't take out the nuclear facility.

[August Lightin]

Oh, that is very funny. Yeah, they didn't because we know they.

[Jimmy Dore]

Didn'T because they didn't. So I guess, I guess he'll be prosecute. He'll be prosecuting you and me for that too, Kurt. Hopefully. Fingers crossed.

[August Lightin]

People don't understand that the Deep state has factions and Trump is one faction. CNN and them people are the other. So Joshua Aaron, the Jew who's so concerned because this is like the hall, whatever the hell nonsense he just said, those. That wing is just trying to thwart whatever Trump does that he was supposed to do. They're just trying to thwart it.

[Jimmy Dore]

You know, I'm certainly against the way they're doing the ice. Yeah, I'm certainly, I don't think cops should be wearing masks in the street. I think that's ridiculous. I don't think they should be ripping people off the street. I think they know where they are. But that Trump already announced, I'm not going to go after the people working on farms or working in meatpacking or working on construction sites or you know what? They, if you really, if they really were serious about it, they would go in and arrest a few of the people who hired those people. And that would stop immediately. And that would stop immediately. But they're not going to do that. Because why? Because business, which donates to the Republican and Democratic Party and actually runs the country, wants those cheap illegal immigrants here for cheap labor. They want them here so they can exploit them more. So. And it also keeps people fighting against each other. It keeps workers fighting against even more desperate workers. So people say, oh, an illegal alien stole my job or took my job. No, they didn't. What happened was a billionaire corporation or a capitalist billionaire took your job and gave it to a person that was in a more desperate situation for you than you are. So they'll work for even less. And they don't have rights. So they can't organize a union. They're not. And so they can always be under the threat of being deported. So they're easily easier for them to manipulate and control than a natural American citizen. That. So if you're, if you're angry about that, you should be angry at the person above you who's hiring them, who runs the corporation and who also runs the government. So Donald Trump is not going to go after those illegal immigrants. They're not. They're picking the low hanging fruit people outside of a Home Depot looking for day labor, shit like that. That's who they're going after. So I'm against illegal immigration 100%. I'm not saying that I wouldn't be an illegal immigrant myself if I was in a bad situation. If the United States came and overthrew my government and put sanctions on my country economically and made my life miserable, I would try to sneak into the United States and make a better life for myself for sure. I'm not saying that's not the point. But the point is you, you have to have, as Dennis Kucinich said when he came on our show, there's no bigger lefty than Dennis Kucinich. And he says you got to, if you don't have borders, you don't have a country. And if you can't enforce immigration law, you have to enforce immigration laws. I'm all for all that stuff, but at this, at the same time, the way they're doing it is the worst way possible that they could possibly do it.

[August Lightin]

They're faking it.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's fake and it's fake. That's right. It's all show. It's fake.

[August Lightin]

So I'm upset that he's not doing the real thing. And the reason he's not is if he goes after the companies and the employers.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[August Lightin]

It'll hurt the economy. And he can't afford that because he's a lame duck president.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right, Right.

[August Lightin]

We have. Instead we get nonsense. And I'm wondering why people would be satisfied with that. There were real problems he was supposed to solve day one. They all say day one, don't they? They all say they don't do what they promised. What does every cow brain in this country do? Well, obviously they can't do the thing they said they would do. How long are you gonna put up with that, everybody? Forever. You're gonna be grateful that you can say no, no words again and leave it at that. Hey, now we can say women don't have dicks. You're gonna be settled for that. Just basic reality. You should have been had, got. And you're not going to bring up the real things that he's failing you on. You deserve it. You deserve it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Cattle. Hey. Become a premium member. Go to jimmy dorcomedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be and I'll keep being me. Don't. Do not freak out.

[Mary Holland]

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[Jimmy Dore]

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[Mary Holland]

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[Candace Owens]

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[Jimmy Dore]

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