Tucker DESTROYS Kevin O'Leary Over AI Data Centers & Screwing Taxpayers!

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Episode: Tucker DESTROYS Kevin O'Leary Over AI Data Centers & Screwing Taxpayers!
Date: May 18, 2026
Host: Jimmy Dore
Guests/Contributors: Kurt, Jeff Bridges (voiced by Mike McRae), (Clips from Tucker Carlson & Kevin O’Leary)

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Overview

This episode is centered on the explosive exchange between Tucker Carlson and billionaire Kevin O’Leary regarding plans for an enormous AI data center ("Stratus project") in Utah. Jimmy Dore and his co-host Kurt dissect the debate and expose the implications of mass surveillance, environmental destruction, state-subsidized corporate projects, and the broader billionaire-led drive toward an AI-driven, surveillance-heavy, labor-light dystopia. The conversation takes aim at the U.S. political and economic elite, unmasking bipartisan complicity in policies that—according to Dore—erode democracy, workers’ rights, and personal freedoms.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Utah Data Center Project: Scope and Concerns

• Project scale: Kevin O’Leary is building a data center in Utah (the "Stratus project") that would be “as big as 2,000 Walmarts,” consuming more electricity than the entire state currently generates and generating the heat equivalent of “23 atom bombs detonating every day” ([03:04], [03:27]).
• Environmental & Local Impact: The project is slated to be built on farmland, threaten wildlife, and drastically affect the local environment.
• Public Opposition: Despite O’Leary’s claims, local residents overwhelmingly oppose the project, but it was nonetheless railroaded through by three county commissioners ([20:13], [21:11]).

2. Surveillance State, AI, and Data Centers

• Link between AI, Data Centers, and Surveillance: Tucker Carlson points out that rampant surveillance collects data that is funneled through such data centers, enabling authorities—and billionaires—to track every movement and action of Americans ([04:02]–[04:34]).
• False Promises of Safety: O'Leary justifies surveillance as crime-fighting, but Carlson and Dore highlight that crime rates are not going down, undermining the justification for mass surveillance ([04:47]–[05:05]).
  • “The promise of less crime is bullshit ... what we’re left with is China, but with more street crime and slower trains.” — Jimmy Dore ([05:02])
• Free Will and Opt-Out Fallacy: O'Leary claims use is voluntary, but as Carlson notes, you can't opt out from being surveilled in public spaces ([06:16]–[06:28]).
• Danger of Shifting Definitions: Tucker cautions that what is “nefarious” is subject to political whims—e.g., Japanese-American internment ([06:34]–[06:51]).

3. The U.S.-China Competition Narrative

• China as a Pretext: O’Leary frames the project as essential for America to “beat China,” prompting Dore and Carlson to call out the hypocrisy—the billionaire class is, in Dore's view, “in bed with China,” and policies have long benefited outsourcing to China ([09:33]).
  • “If they’re really our enemy, why did the billionaire class get Congress and the president to give companies a tax break to ship jobs to China?” — Jimmy Dore ([09:34])
• Data Center Numbers: The U.S. already far outpaces China in the number of data centers (almost 4,000 vs. 361), undercutting the urgency/reality of an AI “arms race” ([09:14]–[09:34]).

4. Jobs, AI, and Economic Displacement

• Jobs Claims Debunked: O’Leary insists AI and the data center will create jobs, but Carlson and Dore highlight evidence and basic logic that most roles will be automated or filled by imported labor ([34:32]–[35:53]).
  • “How does society support millions of unemployed and displaced people? ... There is no answer to any of this.” — Quoted from Matt Walsh ([42:41])
• State Subsidies for Billionaires: O’Leary admits the public is being asked to subsidize the project via tax breaks, but taxpayers get no profit participation ([29:30]–[34:10]). Carlson calls out this “state capitalism:”
  • “If taxpayers are subsidizing the project, why don’t they get equity?” — Tucker Carlson ([30:05])

5. Corruption & The Democratic Process

• Rubber-stamp Democracy: The project was approved by three county commissioners, overriding broad public opposition ([20:13]–[21:44]).
  • “That’s how everything works in the United States. Our whole government is bribed criminals.” — Jimmy Dore ([21:56])
• Police as Enforcers for Capital: Police sided with project backers, arresting residents protesting the center ([22:14]–[23:32]).

6. Media, Manufactured Consent, and Class Division

• Pitting Left vs. Right: Both parties and much of the media are accused of stoking pointless division to distract from the bipartisan upward transfer of wealth and power ([41:58]):
  • “Your enemy is Kevin O’Leary. Your neighbor is not your enemy ... The people who aren’t going along with it are the people getting demonetized.” — Jimmy Dore
• Propaganda and Federal ‘Psyops’: Movements without explicit demands (like “No Kings” rallies) are labeled as deep state misdirection to contain and dissipate popular anger ([51:00]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Surveillance & Crime:

• “So the point is that ... the promise of less crime is bullshit because crime rates are going higher, homelessness is going higher. And so what we're left with is China, but ... with more street crime and slower trains.” — Jimmy Dore ([05:02])

• “The definition of nefarious changes, as you know ... So in 1940, it was not a crime to be Japanese. In 1941 it was.” — Tucker Carlson ([06:34])

On State Capitalism and Taxpayer Subsidies:

• “Why am I, as a taxpayer, forced to pay for your business? ... If you’re getting a tax break and they’re not, they’re making up the difference.”— Tucker Carlson ([33:27]–[34:10])

• “That’s called state capitalism, not a free market ... You take money away from workers to give to a billionaire so he can surveil you, ruin your jobs and become richer.” — Jimmy Dore ([30:25], [32:43])

On Democracy, Corruption, and Public Consent:

• “Why won't they let people talk?... This is not real information. And we sit here like it's okay.” — Jimmy Dore ([21:47])

• “The cops are always going to side with them. They're not on your side. They're there to protect capital.” — Jimmy Dore ([23:32])

On AI and Jobs:

• “Everybody thinks when television came, everybody [would] lose their job in radio. That was complete BS. And the same thing is going to happen here.” — Kevin O’Leary ([36:34])

• “How does society support millions of unemployed and displaced people? There is no answer to any of this ... The only justification anyone could give is China. It's madness.” — Matt Walsh (as quoted by Dore, [42:41])

On U.S.-China Tech Narrative:

• “If they're really our enemy, why did the billionaire class in the United States get Congress and the president to pass laws that gave a tax break for American companies to take good paying American jobs and then ship them to China and turn them into shitty jobs?” — Jimmy Dore ([09:34])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:14–03:40: Introduction to the Stratus data center, project scale
• 04:02–06:34: Tucker Carlson challenges O’Leary on surveillance and AI’s role in tracking Americans
• 06:34–07:49: Dore and Kurt on shifting definitions of criminality and U.S-China comparison
• 09:14–10:40: America’s real AI/data center dominance, "fake" competition with China
• 11:31–12:16: AI as a tool to rid billionaires of labor; mass job loss
• 17:39–18:26: Tucker worries America is “aping” China’s surveillance model
• 20:13–21:11: County commissioner approval vs. public opposition in Utah
• 29:30–36:34: Tucker and Dore dismantle the taxpayer-subsidized justification for private data centers
• 36:34–39:31: O’Leary’s non-answers on new AI jobs and Tucker’s critique
• 41:58–42:41: Dore, Kurt, and Matt Walsh on class war, political division, and the true threat of billionaire-driven technology
• 44:51–47:19: Examples of surveillance in China vs. what is being built in the U.S.
• 48:18–51:13: How “crisis” is created or allowed to push for surveillance state acceptance
• 53:46–56:56: Edward Snowden, the Patriot Act, mass surveillance origins, bipartisan corruption

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Conclusion

Jimmy Dore and guests use the Tucker–O’Leary debate to launch a spirited, wide-ranging critique of the billionaire-led American economic order and its embrace of surveillance, AI, and ever-increasing control over citizens disguised as “competition with China.” The episode excoriates the bipartisan consensus around subsidies for the rich, the hollowing of democracy, propaganda-fueled division, and the co-option of both corporate and independent media. Dore’s central message is a call for working people to see past the “left vs. right” charade, recognize their real adversaries, and demand true systemic accountability.

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Additional Resources

• Full video segment referenced: [Tucker Carlson confronts Kevin O’Leary on taxpayer subsidies, jobs, and data center surveillance]
• Coverage of local opposition meetings and public protests against the Utah data center
• Research on the environmental impact of data centers (energy, water, wildlife)

(Note: All quotes are verbatim from the speakers, timestamps in MM:SS denote position within the core episode content, skipping ad spots, intros, and outros.)

Transcript

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[Kurt]

Establishment media sucks all that slight and

[Jimmy Dore]

so good luck bullsh we can't afford why he's fomenting this watch and see as his jack off the medium speeds and jumps the medium and hit some head on it's the chimy tour show Tucker Carlson completely destroys in several different ways the the o Larry the Mr. Wonderful what's his first name? Kevin O', Lary, the billionaire who was doing this. He's building a massive data center In Utah it's called the Stratus project. And it will be as big as, get this, not 100 Walmarts, not 500 Walmarts, not a thousand Walmarts, 2,000 Walmarts.

[Kurt]

It'll be that savings, Jimmy. That's a lot of savings.

[Jimmy Dore]

Think about and how are they going to pay for that? By answer, Strictly volume. It's going to need 9 gigawatts of electricity to run it and will generate the heat of. By the way, that's more electricity than the entire fricking state generates right now.

[Kurt]

That's like eight. Back to the futures.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt]

1.21 gigawatts.

[Jimmy Dore]

And it's going to generate the heat equivalent to 23 atom bombs detonating every single day.

[Jeff Bridges]

Right.

[Kurt]

Well, the solar array is not killing the birds fast enough is the problem. We got to step it up.

[Jimmy Dore]

And the, the expected impact on wildlife is a catastrophe. So I'm going to just show you. Here's a little clip. I was watching Candace last night and she got this clip of Tucker Carlson exposing Kevin o', Leary, the billionaire who's doing this. And this is just one way. He got exposed. This is just one way. Let's watch.

[Tucker Carlson]

I mean it seems like AI will make it possible to know what every American is doing at all times. Correct me if I'm wrong, I would

[Kevin O'Leary]

say that's not AI that's going to do that. I would say now with the amount of high resolution video and surveillance that is built into every street corner.

[Jimmy Dore]

By the way, where do you think all those high resolution images are going to be processed? Through data centers. So they're going to be inside the data centers. Ok. Just to let you know.

[Kurt]

Okay, so the data centers are. God.

[Jimmy Dore]

So. Right. So he's saying. He's saying. No, it's already. We got cameras everywhere. We got flock cameras everywhere. We got arrows. You're already living in China. Basically what he's saying. And he doesn't realize he's saying this. Let's listen.

[Kevin O'Leary]

That's how they solve a lot of crimes.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's how they solve crime.

[Tucker Carlson]

Do they solve a lot of crimes? Has the closure rate for murders in our big cities. Like what percentage of murders are in New York City or Chicago or Detroit or.

[Kevin O'Leary]

Saul. I don't, I don't. I don't track.

[Jimmy Dore]

Pretty low.

[Tucker Carlson]

Actually it's lower in this country than.

[Jimmy Dore]

So the point is that. Your point is bullshit. That the flock cameras and cameras on every corner in America to surveil us at high tech and high resolution and put it through a data center that you want to own and build and take all the energy and kill the wildlife. And it's being built on farmland. The point is that the promise of less crime is bullshit because crime rates are going higher, homelessness is going higher. And so what we're left with is China, but without. With more street crime and slower trains. So that's what happened. And so Tucker didn't let him get away with that. Really. Crime is going down. Cuz that's not. And he's like, well, I don't know about that. Oh, you mean you don't know about your point? The whole thing you're hinging your point on. Okay, here we go.

[Kevin O'Leary]

Surveillance is a great issue, but the enhancement of surveillance with AI tools is how you now walk through the Dubai airport and you also walk through some airports here in the US Facial recognition technology has finally got to the resolution using AI's tools.

[Tucker Carlson]

It's going to run through your data center. There'll be pictures of all of us in your data center every.

[Kevin O'Leary]

Every day.

[Tucker Carlson]

Right too. You don't have free.

[Kevin O'Leary]

You don't have to opt into that program. By the way, I do it for convenience.

[Jimmy Dore]

You can't opt out.

[Tucker Carlson]

Well, it's on street corners, as you said. So it's. Anytime you're in public, your face is being surveillance.

[Kevin O'Leary]

It is. But I, I'm not doing nefarious things. I'm not a criminal and I'm not stealing any money from anybody.

[Tucker Carlson]

So the definition of nefarious changes, as you know, I mean, hundreds of thousands of American citizens were sent to concentration camps by Franklin Roosevelt because they were Japanese.

[Jeff Bridges]

Correct.

[Tucker Carlson]

So in 1940, it was not a crime to be Japanese. In 1941 it was. So it, the definition does change.

[Jimmy Dore]

And by the way, if you want to bring this Chinese surveillance to the United States or run it to your data centers, the people in would have you in jail because they jail their billionaires because they're mostly criminals. So just so you know that. So you would be a criminal if we actually did adopt the Chinese system, which is what you're advocating for. So this idea that I'm not. What do you got to hide if you're not bringing. Well, Tucker just showed you that the idea of who a criminal is changes at a dime. In 1940, it wasn't illegal to be Japanese. In 1941 it was. And they took away your house, they took away your living, and they put you in a concentration camp. The government of the United States did that. And he said, what do you got to worry about so that the. So the cost of liberty is eternal vigilance. And of course a billionaire doesn't know anything about that because he thinks he's above it. What? Go ahead, Kurt.

[Kurt]

China would not allow a Canadian billionaire to come in and have access to data like that.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Kurt]

He wouldn't let a foreign Canadian billionaire have that kind of access that we give to China here. They don't do that there.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. Okay, here. And here we go. It keep gets getting worse as you know. It's true.

[Kevin O'Leary]

So you, you could have those concerns. But I asked you again, Tucker,

[Jimmy Dore]

you could have those concerns. You could. And Tucker laughs in his face. Laughs at his face. Yeah, I do have those concerns. That's why I just brought it up, you frickin billionaire moron. And how, let's remember how you become a billionaire by helping people.

[Kevin O'Leary]

I know you do, but I asked you again and you haven't answered my question. Do you want the insurance policy or not? Would you, with all of the nefarious concerns about AI, which outcome do you prefer as an American for your family? Would you prefer all of us that are developing these data centers put down our shovels and stop while the Chinese accelerate theirs? Would you like that?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. Yes, I would like that. Guess what? Because this. So this whole thing, that boogeyman is China. Well, the boogeyman is in China because people like him and the tech bros are in bed with China up to their necks.

[Kurt]

Didn't he go with Trump to China? Is he not included?

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm pretty sure he's there. Trump is now going to China begging them to help us with their hand. Right? So that, this idea that China is our enemy is the biggest again, it's a scam. It's a scam to get you to go along with this stuff. It's a scam.

[Kurt]

Shark tank.

[Jimmy Dore]

Just like shark tank was a scam.

[Jeff Bridges]

It's.

[Jimmy Dore]

If you think that the tech bros are against China, then why did they get. Why did the billionaire class in the United States get Congress and the president to pass laws that gave a tax break for American companies to take good paying American jobs and then ship them to China and turn them into shitty jobs? Why do you think they. So if they're really our enemy, why do you think? Well, here, let me. By the way. And this, this idea that we're at war with China, we can't lose this battle of data centers to China. Here it is, USA's 3007. We already have almost 4,000 data centers. You know how many China has? I don't even. China361. I think we're winning the war. How many goddamn data centers do you want? It's about competing with China. This is about enslaving you and putting you in a, and putting you in a surveillance state. And what, what has been the billionaire dream that the people, the business owners dream forever to get rid of labor. They want to get rid of labor. And what gets rid of labor more than anything what gets rid of bit of is AI data centers. And that's why people like graduation ceremonies are booing speakers who talk about AI as if it's a good thing that because they know their entry level jobs are disappearing. So this is the billionaire WEF class, their wet dream. They get to have complete surveillance over you. They get to turn off your car when they feel like it. They get to keep you imprisoned in a 15 minute city. They get to construct turned off your, your, your, your bank accounts with these if you step out of line. And they get to surveil you 100% and the bonuses, they get to take your job away and give you a ubi. So then you're dependent like a slave on the government. You can't go out and earn a living because they took your jobs away. So look at that. So that's all what you know China

[Kurt]

did it with, with AI. So those chips in Taiwan that you know that's the big thing of they get Taiwan, they get those microchips and we make those. And nobody else can have China find a way around that. So they worked smarter, not harder with their AI. That's why it's much better. That scumbag from Shark Tank and the other guy that looks like a mannequin and the other guy that looks like a mannequin, they are scam artists that are robbing. Just look at it this way, the way an aircraft carrier got beat by Iran with paper airplanes. That's how outclassed we are by China already. They're already way ahead with that. So he's full of shit. And they do it better and cheaper and with easier to use parts. They did some smarter programming thing. I think Elon Musk accused them of just stealing other programming bits. But that's nonsense.

[Jimmy Dore]

And just to drive home that point about the people this, this fake war with China. There is no war with China. They're in bed with China and they use a psyop that we're at war with China to bring in surveillance states and all other kind of Stuff to do wars to build up their military industrial complex. To do wars that nobody wants. And to fund your schools, to fund your jobs to all that stuff. Right? So Chernovich makes a great point. Sometimes he's on it. And this is one of those times he's on it. He says Apple makes its iPhones in China. Huh. But they're our enemy. Zuckerberg censored you for claiming Covid was created in a laboratory in China. Huh. Huh. But they're our enemy. Nvidia wants to sell chips to China. Really? Huh. Of course. Big Tech lobbies for infinite studies student visas for Chinese kids. So big. So we're getting flooded by China. Was it 600,000 Chinese students TRUMP is letting in come in on visas to be. I thought they were our enemy. I thought they were all spies. So this is also, don't fall for it. Also who's at war with China? Not Big Tech. They're on China's side. And here's what Chernowitz has to said, which is, hey. Which is very good.

[Unidentified Commentator]

Right now, this very video is being analyzed. Photographed. How does the skin look? Are his pupils dilated? Fed into an algorithm to psychologically profile me. The square footage of the room is being calculated. It's cradle to grave surveillance. That's why Big Tech wants the data center. Now I know as a public person there's no way around it for me. So I don't try to do anything particularly cool to throw off the algo or the ia. I'm. I am what I am. I'm spied on. It's just a nature of the beast. But Big Tech, Mark Zuckerberg, vaccine mandate funded the destruction of America. Funded Black Lives Matter Funded illegal immigrants. They hire Infinite H1BS and now they're telling you that if we don't beat China, then the bad guys trying to win. But Big Tech are the bad guys who. You know, who is this? We. We were censored. We couldn't share the link to 100 by the laptop. We were told, take the vaccine or you're gonna lose your job and your livelihood. Vaccine, passports, dude, that's a dream. Under these data centers, they will do cradle to the grave surveillance. They will suck up every picture, video you take of your kids. It will be harvested. Every movement you make will all be stored. Digital currency will be stored. This is dystopian level stuff. And that's why. Because nothing I've said can be refuted. That's why Big Tech and Kevin o', Leary, you know, he went on Tucker and people are mad at Tucker. I don't really care about that. They're saying, well, this is a China talking point. I'm China, dude. I'm China. Or Big Tech, which was funded by China. Big Tech, which promotes social credit scores and censorship. Big Tech, which wouldn't let us talk about COVID which originated in China. We're, we are, we're trying to Now. No way. Don't fall for this stuff, man. They're using populist messaging. They're using nationalist messaging because they want a shot collar on you. They want the mark of the beast in, in the, in the literal sense to control everything you do. And that's why they need these data centers. And that's why they're trying to ape our language, our populist nationalist message. Oh, we got to be China. We. Okay, where are the checks in big guy, where's the money? If it's us, us. And it's not just more profiteering by big tech, where are the checks?

[Jimmy Dore]

Big boys?

[Unidentified Commentator]

Oh, all amongst each other.

[Jimmy Dore]

We.

[Unidentified Commentator]

You're not part of the we. Don't be a slave.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well said.

[Kurt]

You could see on Kevin o' Leary's face the way he's a player and you're a game piece and you see, oh, do you want China? He knows China's not a problem for him. That's why he's on a plane with Trump there

[Jimmy Dore]

100%. He knows China's not a problem for him. He knows that that's the boogeyman he uses to usher in surveillance state and get rid of workers so he could. So they could make more money and funnel money upwards, which is all they do. They raid the treasury, they print money for themselves and you get left behind treading water, paying $6 a gallon for gas, going up to nine or ten dollars, it's going up there. You're going to be paying twice for food because there's no fertilizer that they don't have. These guys. And, and, and if, and if AI and these data centers are going to improve our lives, why don't they tell us how they're going to improve our lives? They have no way of telling you how it's going to improve your life.

[Kurt]

They go, oh, class will watch you and your children.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. Oh, they're going to give you. We're going to create jobs, you know, many jobs it's going to create. There's what, 50 jobs for a data center? And most of that's going to be security because people are going to want to blow them up.

[Kurt]

We're gonna need human child catchers though.

[Jimmy Dore]

So you watch, people are going to start blowing up data centers. They're gonna make their own drones and do it. And you think I'm lying? I'm gonna show you in another segment that they already know this is going to happen. Larry Fink already knows that people are going to blow up and want to blow up these data centers and build drones to do it. They already know that, right?

[Kurt]

So they're counting on it.

[Jimmy Dore]

They're counting on it. So let's get a. So here's another example of Tucker Carlson ripping and exposing the billionaire Kevin o' Leary for the sham charlatan enemy of the worker that he is.

[Tucker Carlson]

I would think since you disagree with the Chinese way of life, which is pretty civilized in a lot of ways, but the one way in which it's barbaric is that it grants its citizens no real rights. And so I would think that you would be very worried about aping their system which we are now doing. They have total surveillance. It's Panopticon in China. We should create our own. Let's take 40,000 acres in Utah and make it possible for the government to know where you are at all times and what you're thinking listening to you on your phone. Like we have that you have to

[Kevin O'Leary]

choose the less of two evils in your scenario. And I'm telling you what you should do is say I want Kevin o' Leary to succeed. I want him to beat the Chinese and compute power. Then use the laws of the United States to make sure that you keep that compute power in check to not have it available to put down my shovel. I don't think people want me to do that. Even the people in Box Elder, the majority of them want me to hold my shovel and start digging.

[Jimmy Dore]

So. Did you hear that? So again he's using the phony straw man of China. And then we could use the laws of America to protect our civil liberties. We already don't have it ass wipe. They got rid of it with the Patriot act which is why Edward Snowden has to live in Russia. Cuz he exposed how our government is not following the Constitution and you have no rights, you fucking pond scum. You're treated like a dog cuz that's how they see you. They already collect every email you make, every phone call you make and every text you make. They already have it. They have backdoors to listen to you through your television. Which is what Vault 6 was about. Which is why they tried to kill Julian Assange when he exposed CIA's ability to listen to you through your television and watch you. That's what this is all about. They already have it. And we ain't getting our rights back, you lying billionaire piece of shit. And so, and so Tucker's got. And Tucker called him out, right? Hey, what do you mean? What do you want to say?

[Kurt]

Did you, did you hear how he put it to him, though? He goes, well, what choice do you have? He didn't go, we.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right.

[Kurt]

He specifically didn't say we because it's not his problem. It's your problem.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Kurt]

You have to take the lesser two evils. It's five star champagne days for him every day, though.

[Jimmy Dore]

So in. And here's, here's how Tucker comes back.

[Tucker Carlson]

There was a referendum among citizens.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's trying to say that the citizens of Utah, this 40,000 acre, 2,000 Walmart, big data center which is taking all the power away from the people and all the water and creating heat like nobody's business, the equivalent of atomic bombs blowing off every day. He's trying to tell you that the people of Utah want this. He's trying to tell you this. Well, let's listen. Let's listen to how he justifies that the people of that want this.

[Kevin O'Leary]

Even the people in Box Elder, the majority of them want me to hold my shovel and start digging.

[Tucker Carlson]

There was a referendum among citizens, three to zero.

[Kevin O'Leary]

The commissioners of the county said we want.

[Tucker Carlson]

So three people voted. The people of the county, elected officials.

[Kevin O'Leary]

That's how you do it.

[Tucker Carlson]

How hard is it for Kevin o' Leary and Amazon and Microsoft and Google to subvert three county commissioners in rural Utah?

[Kevin O'Leary]

They wanted. They asked us to come. They asked us to bring $50 billion.

[Jimmy Dore]

There's no Amazon, Google.

[Tucker Carlson]

And Kevin O' Leary got three county commissioners in rural Utah on their side. Good work.

[Kurt]

Yeah, I mean, you know why you're so dumb if you don't like, like the blacks or the other races or because they look at you like you're Africa. That's how Kevin Leary looks at you. So if you're Oasis, that's how the billionaires look at you. Like you're a separate race from them, Almost an animal.

[Jimmy Dore]

You want to see how much the people at Kevin o' Larry just said how much those people actually want it? Well, here's. They had a town hall meeting about it. Everybody showed up and they're all against it. So Kevin Oleary's massive data center was approved by a county commission in Utah. Last night. So that's the three to nothing vote. 40,000 acres. It would be two and a half times the size of Manhattan. Holy f. The commission approved the proposal despite this. Despite this kind of opposition. False.

[Kurt]

All of this is false.

[Jimmy Dore]

Then why won't they let people talk?

[Kurt]

Why won't they let us out quick?

[Jimmy Dore]

This is not real information. And we sit here like it's okay.

[Tucker Carlson]

It's a charade.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's a charade. It's false. So those are the people who Kevin o' Leary said invited them in and wanted it. And what they're doing there is the county commissioners are 100% bribed and corrupted. They're criminals. And that's how the. That's how everything works in the United States. Our whole government is bribed criminals. And that's why you still go bankrupt when you get sick. You're buried under mountains of debt just to get a college education so you can get a job. And now they're bringing data centers in to take your jobs away when you graduate with mountains of debt. So this is. And they're. So that's Kevin o' Leary trying to say they want it. Okay? That those people don't want it. By the way, that guy. The cops arrested him, okay? And just so you know, the cops arrested that guy because don't forget, the cops always side with the business owners. The cops are not your friends. They always side with the capitalists. They always side with the oligarchs. The cops are always going to side with them. They're not on your side. They. The cops work. They're not there to keep you safe. They're there to protect capital.

[Kurt]

You know what helps? Because to prevent revolutions. You remember how Lenin got. He had the cops on his side in the military.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Kurt]

So that's why you want to have a good event, to clear them out and not bring it back at the same pay rate, like a defund. The police. And then all those cops leave and you got new cops that are going to be there for you to mold. For the new oligarchs, I think it's

[Jimmy Dore]

important to identify the commissioners that approve this. And it's Lee Perry, Tyler Vincent and Boyd Bingham. Those are the three people that were responsible for destroying this community. So here, show this. What's their name? Lee Perry, Tyler Vincent and Boyd Bingham. And official stances. Commissioner Lee Perry argued the vote was about upholding personal property rights, while Tyler Vincent noted that the landowners should be able to do what they want with their property. So he told those People who were protesting to grow up. Let's see if I have a video of it. Those are criminals, for hell sakes. Grow up. That's what criminals look like. He told them to grow up.

[Kurt]

Wait, before he said for. Do you say it sound like he said for hell's sakes.

[Jimmy Dore]

For hell sakes, grow up. For hell's sake. Take it. You pay me. How much money did he get? Take it. What the says that I want to know how much money that guy got paid off to do this. I want to know how much this guy got paid off to do this. I want to know why all these people aren't in jail. Because those are the criminals who hate America and hate their voting public. And who do they work for? The wef billionaire globalists like Kevin o'. Leary. Those people hate you. These people are criminals. And if we have a revolution, these are the first people who are going to be hung up like that. The Hague and put in prison. Because that's what they are. Criminals. And. And they deserve to be in prison. And I hope and pray to God that people can rise up through their worker workers. If workers shut down, if the. If the workers for the railroad didn't show up for work for a few days, if the workers for the ports didn't show up for work for a few days, if the grocery store workers didn't show up, if the truckers didn't show up for work for a few days, that the whole people they work for, the whole system would grind to a halt and they would have to have a demand. And that demand is we want elections that are publicly funded. No money from billionaires and no money from corporations. We want to take our government back. That's the demand. When the workers rise up and do that, that's the only thing that's going to save this country. Nothing else. Voting is not going to save you. You get people like this who are immediately corrupted. So that's what you need to have. That's the only thing that's going to save this country. And we're going to. And pretty soon we're going to have nine, $10 gasoline and food prices are going to triple if you can even get the food. Because of Trump's war, at the behest of the military industrial complex and Israel, the Zionist occupied government and our media are doing that. And it's going to. And Trump already admitted, I showed you the video yesterday, he doesn't even care one bit about Americans struggling financially. Not one bit. All he cares about is Israel. That's all he cares about is the military industrial complex and he wants to spend 1500 billion more dollars on the military while you guys wallow without food and enough money to pay your gas bill and your kids can't buy a house and you can't afford your student loan debt and you go bankrupt when you get sick. The only way we're gonna solve this is if you shut down capital. Which is why they went truckers so hard when they did it in in Canada and they got every asshole democrat I know in Hollywood to go hate those truckers who are actually vaccinated at a higher rate than the general public. They weren't protesting medicine, they were protesting bullshit authoritarianism. But the democrat asshole motherfuckers in Hollywood that I know love it because they're empty headed idiots and they want to go along and they don't want to risk their job, their next job in Hollywood. And they say things like this. I don't want any trouble. That's who they are.

[Kurt]

That's except to beg to get smart. Yo, Boyd Bingham. I was gonna say try to guess who's who of those guys. So you can't. Boyd Bingham is the guy who said for hell's sake. That became a meme. That's a Freudian slip. That's a Freudian slip. He did not mean to say that. It's been used against him many times. I was looking up because I've never heard anyone say that. I thought maybe it's an expression like in Utah. No, it's not. That guy made a Freudian slip. So that's what you're dealing with right there. Them guys.

[Jimmy Dore]

So you're saying for hell's sake, so we can bring in hell upon you, so we can create a hell in your state. Shut up.

[Kurt]

His subconscious made that blurted that out of him.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's 100%.

[Kurt]

There's no saying called for hell's sake unless you were like a cartoon satanist on a thing like that on a TV show.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy dork.com, clicking on join Premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing Out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. So here is Tucker going to completely dismantle Kevin o' Leary over the fact that these guys are doing it against our will and our own government is so corrupt that they're paying them to screw us and create a surveillance state and make sure we don't have jobs? This is really happening. And Tucker completely, easily, effortlessly exposes this garbage person, Kevin o', Leary, who is your enemy. He is not your friend. He. And. And if we ever do rise up, he's the first guy they're gonna put in jail.

[Tucker Carlson]

Let me ask, though, about why taxpayers should have to pay for this. If it's a private business and your tenants are some of the richest companies in the world, why would taxpayers be required, as they now are, to subsidize this?

[Kevin O'Leary]

They don't. They don't necessarily have to do that. They just won't win any contracts. It's. It's a. It's a competition.

[Tucker Carlson]

But why are you getting tax breaks is my question?

[Kevin O'Leary]

Everybody, you go back and you say, what incentives can you give us to invest in $15 billion in the first 1.5 gigs? That's what it takes. I have to go raise $15 billion.

[Tucker Carlson]

But anyone who starts a business, why should taxpayers have to pony up for that? They don't, but of course they do. If you. I mean, if you're getting a tax break and they're not, they're making up the difference. There's a state budget.

[Kevin O'Leary]

That's no problem. That's no problem. I can build it in Texas. I can build it in Jacksonville, Mississippi.

[Tucker Carlson]

But why, if it's such a good business, would you be asking taxpayers to help pay for it without giving them equity in the company? Are you giving taxpayers shares?

[Kevin O'Leary]

No, that the investors get the shares. But here's why they would do it.

[Tucker Carlson]

Why would the taxpayers have to start a business? Why. Why am I, as a taxpayer, forced to pay for your business? I don't. I don't get it.

[Kevin O'Leary]

Well, let's forget about data centers. Let's do any manufacturing.

[Jimmy Dore]

Let's say he doesn't have an answer for this.

[Kurt]

He's going to try state capitalism like China. Because it's called state capitalism. It's called having a monopoly by the state so they can control it. And there's no fucking free market. It's a lie.

[Jimmy Dore]

Very well said, Kurt.

[Kurt]

It's just so obvious. Like watching this dude, his. Every time you freeze frame on Kevin o', Leary, his face is worse. Just look at that scumbag

[Jimmy Dore]

this is your enemy telling you you have to worry about China, telling you you have to worry about Trumpers, telling you have to worry about white nationalists. You don't have to worry about any of that stuff. You have to worry about pukes like this who made their money screwing people. Because how do you become a billionaire? By helping people. Of course you screw people. You don't make $1 billion. You steal a billion dollars and screw the workers and you steal their. The government to give you tax breaks while you're screwing the people. Which is what Tucker just revealed. Well, if they're going to give you a tax break, that means that the, that the residents, the taxpayers of Utah are now an investor in your company. Why don't they get ownership of it? Why don't they get a part of the equity of your company? And he's like, because they're pigs. Because we treat them as dogs. Because we don't see them as human beings. We see them as useless eaters that need to be governed and had a shock collar on their neck. That's what. Because we're their owners. As George Carlin said, you don't have representatives, you have owners. And this is the owner. They own you and they own the land and they own the power and they're going to get rid of your jobs and they're going to surveil you like a dog, like you're a piece of shit. And that's what. They're your owners. And he's one of them. And that's how the disdain he has for you.

[Kurt]

But he would work with Sam Bankman fried again.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Kurt]

And if you don't like what he's doing, well, we could just take it to Texas and steal their money and destroy their wildlife. What? Like, what is this thing that everybody is. Everybody wants this notice. Citizens anywhere want it. If Utah doesn't pay me to do this, Texas, well, but none of the citizens want it. He'll just go to some other corrupt official who secretly worships the devil and says for hell's sake, to the citizens.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let's go, there's more to this. So here he is. He's going to try it. So Tucker has already revealed this guy to be an evil charlatan liar, pretend wanting to screw everybody in that state for his own profit. And he wants the state to pay for it. He wants the, he wants to get the corrupt. That's right. State capitalism. This is not capitalism. This is state capitalism. The thing that everybody's supposed to be afraid of which they think is communism. Just so you know. So he's really talking about communism. Taking money away from workers to give to a billionaire so he can surveil you, ruin your jobs and become richer. That's what he's talking about. And Tucker sniffed him out. And so should I get a running start or should I start from here? Running start. Let's do this.

[Tucker Carlson]

Let me ask though about why taxpayers should have to pay for this. If it's a private business and your tenants are some of the richest companies in the world, why would taxpayers be required, as they now are, to subsidize this?

[Kevin O'Leary]

They don't, they don't necessarily have to do that. They just won't win any contracts. It's, it's a, it's a competition.

[Tucker Carlson]

But why are you getting tax breaks is my question.

[Kevin O'Leary]

Everybody, you go back and you say, what incentives can you give us to invest $15 billion in the first 1.5 gigs? That's what it takes. I have to go raise $15 billion. That's just.

[Tucker Carlson]

But anyone who starts a business, why should taxpayers have to pony up for that?

[Kevin O'Leary]

They don't, but of course they do.

[Tucker Carlson]

If you, I mean, if you're getting a tax break and they're not, they're making up the difference. There's a state budget.

[Kevin O'Leary]

That's no problem. That's no problem. I can build it in Texas. I can build it in Jacksonville, Mississippi.

[Tucker Carlson]

But why, if it's such a good business, would you be asking taxpayers to help pay for it without giving them equity in the company? Are you giving taxpay shares?

[Kevin O'Leary]

No, that the investors get the shares. But here's why they would do it.

[Tucker Carlson]

Why would the taxpayers have to start a business? Why, why am I as a taxpayer forced to pay for your business? I don't, I don't get it.

[Kevin O'Leary]

Well, let's forget about data centers. Let's do any manufacturing. Let's say you're going to build an aluminum sheet manufacturing facility. You go to the government there and say, look, this is going to huge capex expect, you know, huge capex expenditure. I'm going to hire 2,000 people. I'm going to build a community center. I'm going to pay a lot of tax on the profits.

[Jimmy Dore]

2000 jobs he's promising for a 40,000 acre facility that is three times the size of Manhattan. So 2000 jobs. And I'm going to bet you that 1900 of those jobs are for security so people don't blow up that data center.

[Kurt]

And they're also from out of state.

[Jimmy Dore]

And, and they're going to. And, and the rest of them are going to be brought in on H1B visas from India. Just so you know, that's who's going to be working at these data centers. People from India brought in on H1B visas. Okay, pay in your state.

[Kevin O'Leary]

When I sell the aluminum and I'm going to hire all these people, they will also pay tax. And we will build a school because our workers need a. Need a school. And, and, and, and, and what can you give me to incentivize me versus the state right beside you, which is willing to give me an incentive package?

[Tucker Carlson]

No, no, I understand. I understand that you're. You're gaming a system in place. You didn't come up with this. But I'm just trying to understand. So the trade typically is jobs. Okay, but these projects.

[Kevin O'Leary]

No, no, it's also jobs and taxes,

[Tucker Carlson]

because you're going in taxes. Yeah, but, but then you're getting a tax break, so that doesn't really make any sense.

[Kevin O'Leary]

Only up front, you're Tucker. Welcome to America, buddy. This is how it's gone on for 200 years.

[Tucker Carlson]

I don't know. Lots of bad things go on for a while. I'm just. But I think at some point it's worth assessing. Like, why are we doing this? So you are on the job.

[Kevin O'Leary]

You're doing it because there's a competition?

[Tucker Carlson]

Well, I run a couple of businesses and we're not getting any tax breaks. I think they're. Everybody's virtuous as data centers, but I'm not availing myself of that. And no one's offered. And I wouldn't take it anyway because it's not the job of taxpayers to subsidize a private business.

[Kevin O'Leary]

It's a fair comment, but my job is to create a Data center, create 2,000 jobs for long term, 10,000 manufacturing at the beginning or construction. And, and I'm obviously looking at multiple sites, and this won't be the last one I build.

[Tucker Carlson]

I have, may I ask. 2,000 jobs. Okay. So relative to the size, the physical size of the project, which as you noted, is multiple times the size of Manhattan and the power draw at peak, this data center, your projections will consume about as much energy as New York City does. But New York city provides almost 5 million jobs. And this project, by your own description, would provide about 2,000 jobs.

[Kevin O'Leary]

I don't see the definitely that. You definitely got that calculation wrong. By building a data center that trains AI, that provides productivity to the entire nation, we create millions of jobs. High paying jobs. Jobs.

[Tucker Carlson]

AI is going to create jobs? Yeah. I thought it was going to eliminate jobs.

[Kevin O'Leary]

Just think about the new technologies we don't even know yet that are going to be built off AI. Everybody thinks when television came, everybody lose their job in radio. That was complete bs. And the same thing is going to happen here. Everybody's hysteria about losing jobs, making hamburgers or flipping them, being replaced by a robot. That's probably true. But all kinds of new technology will become available over time, including in medical science and biology and all kinds of things where the models can be used. I'm extremely optimistic. What I'm doing is creating a whole new opportunity for my children.

[Tucker Carlson]

What kinds of jobs? Well, I mean, again, I'm. Some of this of course is unknowable and I want to be as fair as I can be because I'm grateful that you're willing to talk about it so openly. But you just said this will create AI, will create millions of new jobs. You're part of the basis of AI. You can have AI without data centers, at least right now. So what are those millions of jobs? Because we can go through the list that the creators, the people who actually are making AI right now, developing it, we can go through a list of jobs they say is going to eliminate, which would be like lawyers and financial planners and like the basis of upper middle class America that's going away. They've said this. What will it be replaced by?

[Kevin O'Leary]

It'll be replaced by new science opportunities, new exploration into space, new manufacturing for robotics, for defense as well. Wars in the future probably aren't going to be fought with people getting shot in the flesh. It'll be one set of robots against another. I think the drone technology will advance the manufacturing of surveillance, all that stuff against our enemies, which notably is basically China. So if you think about how, you know, you debate the data center, I think it's fair to do that, what you're doing. But I would be very concerned if I were living in Taiwan that one day my electricity just goes out and I get invaded by basically robotics and high precision ordinance. And that's what China wants and they want to get there first. Now if we don't get there first, if we don't develop something better than their AI and our ability to be predictive on where these conflicts are going to happen, I think we'll be in a bad place in 20 years.

[Tucker Carlson]

And so, okay, I think it's very revealing. I asked you about jobs in the United States and you went immediately to defending Taiwan.

[Kevin O'Leary]

We manufacture the equipment here, Tucker. That's where it's made.

[Tucker Carlson]

But I'm okay. Well, actually, a lot of this has been in China as. As I know. You know, so that's my whole point.

[Kevin O'Leary]

I don't want to do that anymore. I want to start making it here. I want to do advanced.

[Tucker Carlson]

I totally agree, but the promise of AI and robotics is that the robots will make the products of the future. So how exactly does that result in

[Kevin O'Leary]

American jobs replaced by a machine? I don't buy that. I just don't agree with you because it's never.

[Tucker Carlson]

I'm not saying I don't want that to happen, trust me. I'm really worried about it. Almost panicked. But I'm trying to feel better. Okay, then please make me feel better. Where are these millions of new jobs? What specifically are you talking about?

[Kevin O'Leary]

Well, you know, every time technology advances, it creates new opportunities that were not foreseen prior because you don't know the direction of new tech. You know, think about if you and I, because we were actually around in the late 80s, contemplating what new jobs would be created by the Internet. And look at what's happened. It's created millions of jobs and advanced all kinds of technologies and changed the way we live to the better. And I would say to you, the same angst we had, the same narrative that was going on in 1992 about how the Internet is going to wipe out the economy and it's a bad thing and it's dangerous. Of course people loathe change. That's the nature of how it works.

[Tucker Carlson]

I think that the United States is a happier country than it was in 1992 too.

[Jeff Bridges]

What?

[Kevin O'Leary]

Define happy. What does that mean?

[Tucker Carlson]

How about the suicide rate or the addiction rate or the life expectancy? Those are all.

[Kevin O'Leary]

There's. There's lots of social issues and there always has been. I would remind you though, but they've

[Tucker Carlson]

gotten worse at ex at exactly the period in history that the Internet was formed and then seem to infuse every part of our lives. So if you were worried about the effect of the Internet in 1992 on America, looking back from the vantage of 2026, you could say, yeah, I had good reason to be worried, couldn't you?

[Jimmy Dore]

Tucker is just killing it. And again, Shark Tank. Again, the mindless, empty dweeb heads who know nothing about anything. The people I'm surrounded by in Hollywood who think they're a good boy because they vote for someone who's funding a genocide and forcing experimental medical treatments on people you can't go to work and crushed a union, a railroad union strike and didn't give you a public option and didn't raise the. The people who do that. I'm surrounded by those people who still. And by the way, who you voted for, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, you are the moral superior of no one. Those people think somehow Tucker's still the bad guy even though he's the only one in media who has a big platform like this, who is challenging these pukes. And guess what? They're all the Democrats in California are getting ready to vote for Tom Steyer. Another one of these billionaires, the guys who voted for Bernie Sanders are now getting ready to vote for a billionaire, Tom Steyer. And the irony is not lost on me, but it's lost on them. So the people who vote Democrat are empty headed morons, just like the people who think voting Republican is going to fix something. You're a moron and an idiot. And the point of Democrats and Republicans is to keep you divided so that they you'll come together and oppose people like Kevin o'. Leary. We have more in common. That divides us. Your neighbor is not your enemy. Your enemy is Kevin o'. Leary. And the person in media who's fighting that fight right now is Tucker Carlson. And the people in comedy that I know in Hollywood are all brainwashed into thinking somehow Tucker Carlson's a bad guy. Even though whenever somebody sits down for five minutes and listens to him, they go, hey, why do I find myself agreeing with Tucker Carlson all the time? Well, because you've been brainwashed just like Zach Galifianakis and Conan o' Brien and Jimmy Fallon and Seth and everybody else. Jon Stewart will, he knows better. But he'll never tell you the truth. He'll never tell you why he hung a medal on a Nazi. He'll never tell you why he won't tell the truth about the Ukraine war. He'll never tell you any of that shit. But the people, I swear to God, it drives me effing crazy. And they go, it's horseshoe theory. Yes, you're supposed to join with your neighbor. And that's how they use the term horseshoe theory to keep you hating your neighbor, you fucking moron.

[Kurt]

All those terms are given to you by oligarchs. That's who funds the education on purpose to create the very framework in which you live. The Overton Window. As Bill Marshall famous, yeah, he if this was Shark Tank and, and Kevin o' Leary was giving those answers to Kevin o'. Leary. Kevin o' Leary would say I just asked you a specific question and you're not telling me anything.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Kurt]

Who would invest in this?

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Kurt]

That's what Kevin o' Leary would say. So he thinks you. By the way, if you go on Shark Tank, you're an idiot out of the gate because it's a. They steal your. You must be an idiot to be on that Anyway. But anyway, that, that, that it's outrageous how much they think they're like they display how little you mean to them. We know about the Epstein files. Why would your class of people be in charge like that after that?

[Jimmy Dore]

So Matt Walsh, who makes good movies, but he's wrong about a lot. He's right about this. He says big tech company, which I was shocked to see him come on the right down on the right side of this because he's been on the wrong side of everything. Laza Blade. He believes the Fed slop around the Charlie Kirk works murder, which just serves to divide people against each other, which is that get. If you go along with that, you're a tool of the billionaire Epstein class against workers. You're there to keep us divided and hating our neighbor. And that's the kind of shit Matt Walsh has been pushing lately. But I some out of the nowhere he gets this one right. And let me show you. He says big tech companies are spinning forward, building data centers as fast as they can, sometimes using eminent domain to seize the land by force, making their AI more and more powerful, expanding the technology at lightning speed with no guardrails of any kind. Yet none of these tech gurus or any of their apologists have even attempted to explain what exactly all of the millions of people who lose their jobs and the increasing number who lose their homes, all sacrificed on the AI altar, are supposed to do. How does society support millions of unemployed and displaced people? What becomes of a society where algorithms and machines do everything and a few people become trillionaires while millions more lose everything? There is no answer to any of this. They aren't even attempting to answer it. Instead, we're simply told that China exists and we have to beat them in some unspecified way in order to achieve some unspecified goal. We're going to obliterate entire industries, entire categories of jobs all at once. And the only justification anyone, anyone could give is China. It's madness. Well said, Matt Walsh. Good to see you. Get your head out of your ass and come Daily Wire out of business or something. Well, I think Daily Wire is going out of business. So now he's allowed to tell the truth again, which is nice because he's. When he tells the truth, there's nobody better. But he's been telling a lot of fed slop lately. But thank God for this. I want to give him props while join with anyone to do right and nobody to do wrong. And so I'll join with Matt Walsh on this. Anything you want to say, Kurt?

[Kurt]

For hell's sake. Grow up, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

For hell's sake. For hell's sake. Fox News crew, they got there in China and they parked illegally. And in two minutes, they got a parking ticket. And during President Trump's 2019 summit with Xi Jinping, Fox News anchor Brett Baer reported live from Beijing on the city's massive surveillance system, which issued an immediate, immediate fine for their driver for a brief parking violation. He highlighted the 1500 new cameras added that year alone, noting how they prevent jaywalk. Well, let's watch. Let's watch. His

[Fox News Reporter Brett Baer]

big brother is watching. There are literally cameras everywhere in Beijing. We are outside the Ha Dian station and I can count at least 20. In fact, in Beijing, they've added 1500 cameras just this year alone. They see everything. There's nobody jaywalking here because they could get a ticket right away. In fact, our driver parked illegally for two minutes and he got a message on his phone that he got a ticket for about 40 bucks US because they saw it on the camera. Now, there are real questions. What the CCP's goal is is about citizen tracking and social scoring. They say it's to make everybody feel safe. These cameras are watching every minute. They're everywhere. And while they're watching us here in China, we hope you continue to watch Special report from Beijing.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Fox News, Kurt, what they did was they magically traveled three years into the future and landed in any town, usa.

[Kurt]

Right?

[Jimmy Dore]

This is what the elites have in store for us, using China as the test bed. And isn't it, isn't it exciting to be in an episode of Star Trek where robot cops protect you from your own human foibles? Because that's what that. That thing that he was decrying in 29. It's here. We have flock cameras everywhere. And the. The joke is that they say it's to fight crime. Crime has gone up. So now what we have is we have. And now there's data centers everywhere, which is being not used to help you. It's used to take your jobs away, make you paupers and dependent on the state for UBI income and also to surveil you and so now we've got the flock cameras, we've got the data centers, and now guess what? We've become China. Except we have more street crime and slower trains.

[Kurt]

Yeah. So China, when I went there in 2015, my whole joke about it was it was like going to the future because it was very. It was like higher pollution, very high tech. And some people always wore masks because of the old bird flu. And even though, remember the old bird flu thing in China, some people forever wear masks there. And that's the first time I ever saw that. And, and, and it became the future here. The reason they have that, though, is because they don't. Their cops aren't armed like our cops.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. They don't have guns.

[Kurt]

So they. They got billions of people.

[Jimmy Dore]

Our.

[Kurt]

Our leader solution here is to wipe out most of the population to make them more controllable. They came up with this system because there was rampant corruption, because the cops, they're not armed. Nobody respects them. People do corrupt. You know, there was sewer oil. They were cooking street noodles in it. I was warned not to get that. And so after a lot of people asked, wanted this there. So that's the whole. The whole trick is what they admire. How did they get it? So all the Chinese are, hey, this is great. You know, how did they get it like that?

[Jimmy Dore]

And so the. And so the way they get it, it to where the people of America want this kind of surveillance system and flock cameras and security, the way they do it is they flood the country with homeless people. They flood the country with immigrants. They have street crime rampant. They have drug addicts spewing intense all over everywhere. So it makes you feel like you're going from a war zone from your car to inside of a 711 where you get accosted three times by drug addicts. So that's how they do it. That's why it's not being cleaned up. Because the people who run the country, which is not Donald Trump and the Chuck Schumer and the people in con, those are not the people who run the country. Get that out of your head. The people who run the country are in Davos. The people who run the country are the military industrial complex. It's Bill Gates, it's Jeff Bezos, it's Soros, it's the international WEF billionaire class. Those are the people who run the country. And when they have a session of congress, that's for show. That's them. They're not there doing the bidding of workers or students or the elderly. Or people who need infrastructure. They're there doing the bidding of the international WF Davos class to screw you. Which is why they put in the big beautiful bill that made it illegal for states to regulate AI, which means data centers. So now they can do whatever you want. Fuck you, pay me. It doesn't matter. Hey, the people don't want it. Fuck you, pay me. Hey, the people are rising up against this. Fuck you, pay me. And it doesn't matter who you vote for. It's going to keep going this way until people rise up, shut down the economy like the truckers did. And that's why they freaked out so much about the truckers in Canada, because they were setting the example for how just a group of truckers could shut down an entire economy. And what we need is for railroad workers, port workers, truck drivers, if all the grocery workers decided to stay home for a week, it would shut down America. And that's exactly what we need. And we need union leaders willing to go to prison because they're going to make those, those union strikes illegal. So you have to be willing to go to prison and then you have to have a demand. You have to have a demand when you have. And so when you have a no Kings rally, you know that's a psyop engineered by the Deep State. How? Because there's no demand. You get hundreds of thousands, millions of people in the street with no demand. That's how you know it's a psyop. That's how you know the woman's march after Trump got elected the first time was a psyop. That's how you know every no Kings. And that's why I have to explain this to our good friend Jeffrey Sachs when he comes back on because he likes the no Kings. I have to explain to him there's no demand. That's how you know it's a psyop.

[Kurt]

It's just catharsis.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. It's to take the revolutionary energy in the United States and funnel it back into the two party duopoly which they both work for the same wef international globalists.

[Kurt]

The same principle, Jimmy, as when they kill the President and they harvest that energy to alter now. Everything's different now because of that. Things were never the same after 9 11. Yeah, that's literally what it means when they harness energy. Our energy just means potential to do work.

[Jimmy Dore]

So, and here's the chuds, the people who are working for the Deep State to keep us divided. And it's a guy like Eric Doherty. I don't know if you've ever seen this guy but he is a mental middle age budget. Who's taking. I'm almost 100% sure. 100. Almost 110,000% sure that he is on the payroll of the deep state or some billionaire somewhere to divide Americans against each other because he says the dumbest shit ever. And if he's not being paid then he's the biggest chump in the history of the world.

[Kurt]

So he's auditioning to be paid.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, he's auditioning to be paid. So here is the dumbest shit you've ever heard. The Chinese communists have just ticketed the Fox News crew using their abundance of surveillance cameras placed around Beijing. Brett Baer. There are literally cameras everywhere. They see everything. Our driver parked illegally for two minutes and got a ticket for $40 because they saw it on camera. This is communism. It's what the Democrats want. You fucking tool. It's exactly what the people who are paying you or you want to pay you. They're the ones doing it. And it's not Republican, it's not Democrat. It's not left or right. And I think this moron knows it and that's why he's trying to keep us divided. It's us against. It's not left against right. Flock cameras. I have everybody and it's not. They're in every state that data centers are being pushed by the billionaire class. Donald Trump put it into the big beautiful bill that states cannot regulate data centers. AI. That's the Republicans doing that. So this idea. So they do Charlie Kirk's assassin assassination, this, the Iran war, everything that people fuck faces like this, try to use it to divide Americans so we don't catch on to the game that's being played against us, see that our neighbor is not our enemy and come together with our enemy and oppose those motherfuckers. That's exactly the only thing that's going to save this country. And then maybe we could put people like this in prison for treason because that's where this guy belongs, in prison for treason. Because this is treason against America. America.

[Kurt]

Edward Snowden, by the way, Jimmy is hiding in another country because he revealed that our government was doing the thing that he's calling communism.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's. That's right.

[Kurt]

And so like how, okay, old people are watching this, this plastic surgery nightmare, okay, old people are watching him. How do they not remember that? I remember that. How do you not remember that? And also. Or what communism is if it's mass surveillance, we've been communist since 9 1100%.

[Jimmy Dore]

As Edward Snowden revealed, we've been communist since 9 11, which is why he has to live in Russia and that's through Donald Trump's two administrations. So there is no Republican coming to save you from mass surveillance. They have already since 911 by the way. They had the Patriot act which gave them the right to spy on you without a warrant. Warrant. And they had that bill written before 911 you stupid chud. Tell that to this fuckface Eric Doherty. They already had that written before 9 11. And who implemented it? The Republicans, George Bush and Dick Cheney. So this idea that it's communist that Democrats are bringing it, it's a. We have a one party rule. And I'm sick and tired of people who pretend that we have a two party rule or we even have a semblance of democracy. I'm sick of those people. And you see those people with big platforms, those people are being paid. Those people are being paid directly to say the dumbest shit in the world, to attack Candace Owens, to go along with the FBI Fed slop around Charlie Kirk, the one guy standing up against it and they killed him. Anybody who's going along with the FBI narrative is 100% being paid. And that's why they don't invite me on their shows, because they know I know they're being paid. They're being paid that they're doing Chatham House Rules. They're being paid by Israel or a Jewish donor somewhere or a billionaire at WF Davos. Why else would they, why else would they do the exact opposite of what they've been saying for the last 15 effing years? And they're the ones now dividing the country. Those people are, they're treasonous. They're your enemy. Your neighbor is not your enemy. Your enemy is people like this people telling you that the FBI Fed slop around Charlie K. Kirk, who when he finally stood up to the WEF globalists, rejected the Jewish money, they immediately killed him. When he stood up against their military industrial complex wars in Iran, they immediately killed him. And anybody telling you that it happened the way that the Fed slop is telling you that Cash Patel is telling you the truth, anybody telling you that is your enemy and they should be imprisoned as soon as we have a revolution because they're being paid to lie to you. And it's the oldest trick in the book. Of course we know that the deep state, the banks, the military industrial complex, big pharma and the CIA, they have complete control of our corporate media, which is why we have independent media. Well, what makes you think they wouldn't also take over independent media? Look around. They've got it. They've got them by the balls. And the people who aren't going along with it are the people getting demonetized. The people getting their videos taken down, getting community noted, community violation strikes like this show. That's what's happening. Like the gray zone. The guy got arrested.

[Kurt]

Commie shit, you know? Commie shit.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, commie shit. That's the commie shit. Donald Trump.

[Kurt]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

Donald Trump didn't bring in free speech. He instituted more censorship, you fucking ass wipes. Of course he did. He instituted. He didn't get rid of dei. He brought a new DEI for Zionists on college campuses. He imprisoned, just like Joe Biden imprisoned students speaking out against the control of Zionism of our government, just like that. So this idea that Donald Trump is somehow a friend to the working man or anybody except the billionaires that are paying you pieces of shit to divide our country is a joke.

[Kurt]

Well, also, there's no communism in China. I went there and I couldn't believe how not communist China is. I don't know what the hell they're talking about. They should abandon just calling it communists. That hasn't been communist forever. It's exactly state capitalists like what we. They're exactly what we are. The difference is because China didn't allow mass immigration. See, they already are pretty. They don't have any religions. They're already. The state's already become the religion there a long time ago. That's what Mao did. So that experiment's more successful than us because here they're going to need to break down all the things that are like your cultural identity to have one. China went through this thousands. You know, when they made the whole empire of China, that. That's what they did. They're like, we got to break down all the individual cultures, cultures into one mass culture. So China, they didn't have to take mass immigration because they've already implemented the things that people that want to run the world. Like, that's why Ellison and all these people, they all love China. It's crazy that Brett Bear has something bad to say about it.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's amazing.

[Kurt]

All of them love China.

[Jimmy Dore]

They all love it. Hey, this is Jimmy. Who's this? This?

[Jeff Bridges]

Hey, man, it's Jeff Bridges.

[Jimmy Dore]

Ah, friend of the show. Bridges, Jeff Bridges. How are you, Jeff?

[Jeff Bridges]

Yeah, I'm doing pretty far out, man. How about yourself?

[Jimmy Dore]

Doing great, Jeff. What's on your mind?

[Jeff Bridges]

Now? I'll Tell you what's on my mind. What's with this fucking boat, man?

[Jimmy Dore]

What? What boat?

[Jeff Bridges]

The boat where everyone has this rat disease that kills people. Hanta. Why are they. How can they. Why don't they just blow it the fuck up, you know, just to be safe?

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, Jeff, that would probably be a giant overreaction.

[Jeff Bridges]

Well, I don't want that shit. That rat shit. Keep the rat virus at sea, man, until the whole thing, you know, blows over.

[Jimmy Dore]

So you just keep people afloat on an ocean indefinitely?

[Jeff Bridges]

I mean, they're on a cruise, man. It's not like they're in a dinghy. They have shows and buffets with crab legs.

[Jimmy Dore]

All the people on the boat were quarantined in their rooms that there wasn't any buffet service or entertainment.

[Jeff Bridges]

Oh. Oh, that sucks, man. Those rooms are tiny. Yeah, but I don't want another pandemic. I can't go through that again, man. Man, the lockdown. And then I got cancer and had to go through, you know, placebo treatment. I'm not doing that shit again, man. Keep that shit at sea until it blows over.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, hey, wasn't the pandemic and you getting cancer unrelated?

[Jeff Bridges]

Well, yeah, but I still don't want the rat virus.

[Jimmy Dore]

Apparently Hunta is contagious, but it's not like coronavirus. There's not worried about another pandemic type situation.

[Jeff Bridges]

Look, I don't give a.

[Kevin O'Leary]

Man.

[Jeff Bridges]

It's a rat virus from a animal, man. Anytime a virus comes from an animal, it's a doomsday disease. Bird flu. It's from birds, Covid. It was from a wet market.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, no, it was from a lab in Wuhan.

[Jeff Bridges]

Oh, is that. Is that not racist to say anymore?

[Jimmy Dore]

No, that's that thing we can say now. It used to be racist to say that, but now it's not racist.

[Jeff Bridges]

Well, how can that fucking be?

[Jimmy Dore]

No one knows, Jeff. It's a mystery.

[Jeff Bridges]

Huh? Far out, man. Whatever. Somehow Covid came from an animal. This is from rats, man, which are the dirtiest of all, so this disease will be dirtier. Hey, man, the fucking bubonic plague was from rats. Haven't we learned shit, man, from the Middle Ages? Keep that shit at sea until the whole thing blows over.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, hunter can't come from any road. Actually, Hunt virus can come from any rodent. Actually, the cruise was in South America. Capybaras live in South America. They are rodents. Technically, they're the world's largest rodent.

[Jeff Bridges]

Oh, yeah, capybaras. Those guys are cool, man.

[Jimmy Dore]

They are.

[Jeff Bridges]

They just Sort of hang out, you know, just chill in the water over there. I dig it, man. I dig their whole vibe. I wouldn't mind getting sick from capybaras.

[Jimmy Dore]

You wouldn't?

[Jeff Bridges]

Yeah. How bad could it be? Like I said, I dig their vibes, but man.

[Jimmy Dore]

So you're, you're feeling a little better about the boat then?

[Jeff Bridges]

I don't know, man. How about you? You worried?

[Jimmy Dore]

I wouldn't say I'm worried, but I don't trust the so called authorities to handle outbreaks anymore.

[Jeff Bridges]

Yeah, man, fuck it. I still think they should have waited till the whole thing blew over, but it's too late now. Fuck it, dude.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right?

[Jeff Bridges]

What about the guy who ran onto the tarmac in Denver and got hit by a 747?

[Jimmy Dore]

What about him?

[Jeff Bridges]

Well, did he have a hantavirus? Did it make him fucking crazy?

[Jimmy Dore]

I don't think that had anything to do with the hantavirus.

[Jeff Bridges]

So those two stories aren't related?

[Jimmy Dore]

Not that I know of.

[Jeff Bridges]

Is he okay?

[Jimmy Dore]

No, he died.

[Jeff Bridges]

Oh, no.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hey, look, Jeff, we need to get on with the show. Some of these things you could just google. You don't need to call me and ask basic questions about local news stories.

[Jeff Bridges]

Far out, man. I hear you. I hope you don't catch the Captain Bar flu or whatever. In case it is decidedly unchill. I'm gonna stay inside for a year just to be safe. I better not get cancer again, man. Have a good show, Jimmy. You give him what for. You tell him Jeff Bridges says it, man. Nothing's gonna last. Might as well do a J.

[Jimmy Dore]

I don't do J's anymore, Jeff. But I, I, I, I get your sentiment. You enjoyed the J. Yeah.

[Jeff Bridges]

No, I didn't mean you. I meant me.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, okay, Jeff. Take care, pal.

[Jeff Bridges]

Yeah, bye.

[Jimmy Dore]

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