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Ukraine DESPERATELY Regretting Not Signing 2022 Peace Deal! w/ The Duran
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In 2022, shortly after Russian troops rolled across the border into the Donbas region of Ukraine, negotiators for both sides met and hammered out an agreement to end the fighting — a deal that would have maintained the Donbas as a semi-autonomous...
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Jimmy Dore
Come see us on tour. We're going to be in Baltimore, Hartford, Connecticut, Syracuse, Atlantic City, Levittown, New York, Cohos, New York, and Providence, Rhode Island. Go to Jimmy Dore.com for a link for tickets. Hey, this is Jimmy. Who is this?
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Elon Musk
Hello, Jimmy. This is Elon Musk.
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Jimmy Dore
Oh, hello, Elon Musk. Thanks for calling again. How are you?
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Elon Musk
Doge?
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Jimmy Dore
Okay. Is that a greeting now?
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Elon Musk
Doge is many things. Doge is life.
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Jimmy Dore
I thought it was the Department of Government Efficiency.
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Elon Musk
That is but one of the manifestations of Doge. DOGE also stands for Directive Order for Gnostic Existence. But that will have to be a conversation slated for a subsequent time.
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Jimmy Dore
All right, fair enough. What do you want to talk about then, Jimmy?
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Elon Musk
I'm glad you asked. I wish to discuss plans for the future. Government efficiency and beyond. Very far beyond. Thousands and thousands of miles beyond, as a matter of fact.
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Jimmy Dore
What do you mean? And please don't say Doge again.
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Elon Musk
Mars.
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Jimmy Dore
Oh, what about Mars?
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Elon Musk
Jimmy, as you know, the red planet has long been a preoccupation of mine, as is the prospect of colonizing it. It is humanity's next logical step. Humanity must expand throughout the galaxy or die.
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Jimmy Dore
Why? Why Mars? Why are we skipping over the moon?
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Elon Musk
Because it's always nighttime on the moon. And seasonal affective disorder, which it would be very depressing Me. It must be Mars.
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Jimmy Dore
I don't understand this reasoning. Why don't. Why don't we fix our problems here on Earth before we take on the solar system?
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Elon Musk
Jimmy, you. No offense, but you lack perspective. You see, you are not a billionaire like I am. I'm not personally. I'm personally not affected by any of these so called problems that you speak of. Therefore, I'm free to entertain any and all sorts of impractical fanciful notions. Sitting upon titanic wealth has made my perspective clearer than that of most people.
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Jimmy Dore
Well, how nice for you. But most of us have to deal with problems occasionally. We are affected by these Earth problems.
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Elon Musk
Yes, I am aware and I have great sympathy for your circumstances, or at least a vague simulacrum of Sympathy. And this is an obstacle that SpaceX must overcome. Using, of course, Doge.
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Jimmy Dore
What do you mean exactly?
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Elon Musk
Doge must take my personal obsession with space travel and make it a tangible necessity for humanity.
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Jimmy Dore
By doing what?
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Elon Musk
By making life on Earth intolerable for the majority of the population and thereby making generational space flight seem an attractive option by comparison.
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Jimmy Dore
Good. Good. Good God.
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Elon Musk
Good Doge. This is the end goal of the DOGE Initiative. By dismantling the federal government, unfettering the rapacious elements of capitalism, and removing the tools with which one might repair anything or fix any problem, we can lay humanity prostrate before planetary disaster and give them no choice but to flee Earth.
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Jimmy Dore
You know, there's a lot of people saying, that is what you're doing. Why are you doing this?
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Elon Musk
There is a song by Black Sabbath called Into the Void. The lyrics of that song are basically this. This exact thing happening. Humanity having to flee Earth into the void.
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Jimmy Dore
And.
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Elon Musk
It'S a cool song. I like it.
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Jimmy Dore
Okay. You're trying to destroy Earth because of a 70s heavy metal song.
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Elon Musk
Music has always inspired genius. Jimmy. Jimmy. I want you to come to Mars.
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Jimmy Dore
Forget. No way I'm a human being. We evolved to live here on Earth. No other planets.
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Elon Musk
We will meet people like you, entertainers and truth tellers for the long journey to the stars, as well as poets to describe the green hills and blue skies of Earth to the generations who will be born, live and die on a spacecraft. Do you know any poets?
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Jimmy Dore
No, I don't know any poets. This is madness. Madness. This is what Russ and Keaton say you are doing. People don't want this. What?
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Elon Musk
How? Oppressions of them.
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Jimmy Dore
Yes, people don't want this. Humanity did not ask for this.
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Elon Musk
This is of no importance to us.
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Jimmy Dore
What do I have to do to talk you out of this? Maybe you could listen to a song about how nice our planet is.
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Elon Musk
Oh, do such songs exist? I only know three songs. Into the Void by Black Sabbath being one of them. Groove is in the Heart by Delight being the second, and the third is a secret.
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Jimmy Dore
Yes, there are many songs about how nature is lovely and worth preserving.
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Elon Musk
Hmm, interesting. Can you make me a Spotify playlist? My mind is easily changed because it is the mind of a toddler, essentially. This gambit of yours may just save the world.
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Jimmy Dore
Yeah, as soon as I finish my show, I'm at it.
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Elon Musk
Oh, all right. Well, hurry. I will not be ceasing my path of destruction until your playlist changes my mind. There is wonder in this world. I suppose the fate of the planet lying in the hands of a near trillionaire who is mentally unstable and unchecked is in itself somewhat of a miracle. I hate to leave behind a world that is possible. Ah, the irony. I must go. I'm having my blood fully replaced by the genetically reconstituted plasma of Genghis Khan and then off to look at space plans and then a comedy show. Goodbye and doge to you and yours.
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Jimmy Dore
Oh God, establishment media sucks all gas lighting so good luck. Bullshit we can't afford why he's commenting.
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Alex
This watch and see as his jack.
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Jimmy Dore
Off the medium speeds and jumps the medium and hit some head on. It's the chimney door show. I'm here with the gentleman from the Duran and there's a couple of contradictory things Trump has said recently about Russia and the first one he started off by US Refuses to blame Russia for Ukraine war splitting with their European allies in the UN Votes. In a dramatic shift in transatlantic relations under President Donald Trump, the United States split with its European allies by refusing to blame Russia for its invasion of Ukraine and votes on three UN Resolutions Monday seeking an end to the three year war. The growing divide follows Trump's decision to open direct negotiations with Russia on ending the war, dismaying Ukraine and its European supporters by excluding them from the preliminary talks. Last week in a UN General assembly, the US Joined Russia in voting against a European backed Ukrainian resolution that calls out Moscow's aggression and demands an immediate withdrawal of Russian troops. The US Then abstained from voting on its own competing resolution after Europeans, led by France succeeded in amending it to make clear Russia was the aggressor. The voting was taking place on the third anniversary of Russia's invasion and as Trump was hosting French President Emmanuel Macron in Washington and his wife or father, I who knows, who knows who that is, really? I don't know who that is, but I, I get just to. That's a, that's an amazing thing. I mean, what, what a shift in administration from Biden administration to the Trump administration. And what do you make of Europe still trying to prolong this? What is in it for Europe to try to still make enemies with Russia? Wouldn't it be better for Europe all the way around if they fixed the Nord Stream pipeline and made friends with the Russia wouldn't. I don't get it.
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Alex
You are absolutely right. You're applying logic to what Europe should do. European leaders, not European people. European people. The public in Europe is becoming increasingly disenchanted with this whole thing, but European leaders are deeply committed to the war and the reason they're deeply committed to the war is because they associate it with the United States States presence in Europe. They want to preserve the U.S. presence in Europe. They want to preserve NATO. They want to preserve all the structures that originate and have been created around NATO. Because of course, if those go, then of course they have no place, because other political forces will then step in and replace them. So that, that is why the European leaders are taking this extraordinary stance of basically attaching themselves to Zelensky, who's, you know, not waving but drowning, as that poem says. They're attaching themselves, they're pulling themselves down, they're creating a deep and deepening crisis in Europe, but they don't seem to be able to change direction or change course.
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Jimmy Dore
It seems like a suicide mission for Europe, right, Alex? Yeah, it is.
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Unnamed Speaker
But, you know, for the European people, for the European elite, like Alexander says, for them, the most important thing is to keep the United States in Europe. It's not even so much about the Ukraine war anymore. For the European elite, the globalist political class. For them, the Ukraine war is the mechanism that keeps the United States invested in Europe. It keeps NATO funded, it keeps NATO going, it keeps the weapons moving, it keeps the United States bogged down and investing and sending money to Europe, which is effectively the money that goes to all of the European institutions and all the European elite. So that's why Ukraine is so important for them. Because if Ukraine goes, then they see it as America goes. And if America goes, well, then there goes all of the money and all of the power as well. Because, you know, countries like Estonia, like Latvia, even like the uk, they love to go around the world and to bully other countries and say, you better do as we tell you to do. Not because we're this big powerful country, but because we got the United States in back of us. And if you don't do what we tell you to do, well, then the United States is going to come along and they're going to sanction you or they're going to punish you. So, so, so it's the money, it's the power. They don't want to see that go. And the mechanism to keep the United States invested is Ukraine.
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Jimmy Dore
So, you know, so when they blew up the Nord Stream pipeline, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't Germany, which is the economic engine of Europe, aren't they paying like two or three or four times as much for energy now as they were before that? And hasn't that had a ripple effect across every economy in Europe?
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Alex
Absolutely. The whole of the European Union is in deep crisis. Germany has had three years of contraction. Nobody calls it recession, by the way, even though that is what it is. But we avoid calling it a recession. We just call it now an economic contraction. So that's now the new language that's being used. But everywhere, right across Europe, you have economic recession, you have stagnation, you have falling wages, you have growing problems. And that's why you see all these political movements, some of which I have sympathies for, some of which I don't, by the way, coming up to the fore, because they're at least trying or at least expressing some of the frustrations that the European public has with the European elite, which exactly, as Alex said, is completely tied up with the whole concept of the West. The west, and which makes them feel important, which gives them status in the world, which gives them status in their own countries, and which, ultimately, it's important to remember is the world they know. I mean, they've lived inside it. It's very frightening, very disturbing for them that it might change. So that's the reality, you know, Nord Stream, far less important, much more important. Keep the Americans in, keep them committed to Ukraine. And if, you know somebody blew up Nordstream, well, don't talk about it very much. Engage in investigations which go nowhere. Talk about the Russians all the time. Say it was the Russians who switched off the gas supply, which European leaders are doing, by the way, all the time. Olaf Scholz is doing it. Hussyll von der Leyen is doing it. Keir Starmer in Britain has recently taken to doing it. So talk in that way rather than face realities or really face the problems of the people of Europe.
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Jimmy Dore
So here, here's the. So now we just showed you that Trump's UN Ambassador would refuse to vote with Europe to say that Russia was at fault for the invasion of Ukraine in three different votes, three different ways. But here's the thing that seems a little puzzling to me. Trump extends Russia sanctions ahead of meeting with Zelensky is. I don't. I didn't. I mean, in the early 1960s, this would have been called diplomacy, but in these dumbed down, reactionary times, they refer to it now as playing both sides because, you know, you can't sell weapons unless you have a side. Is that about him wanting to just put money in the pocket of the military industrial complex as he winds down the war?
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Alex
Well, I think probably one of the reason that he would have given if you asked him for why he did it is because he didn't want to lift the sanctions just before Zelensky came, because that might have appeared as if he really was tilting towards Russia. And of course, if you listen to what he said in all his exchanges with Zelensky, he's trying to insist that he's taking a sort of middle position. But ultimately, again, you're absolutely right. He wants normalization of relations with Russia. It makes absolutely no sense looking at that, that you keep the sanctions. It disincentivizes the Russians to seek normalization with the Americans because the Americans are still sanctioning them. But logic and reason has been thrown out of the window for such a long time now that perhaps one shouldn't expect it just to come back at all quickly. At least we should be grateful that the Americans and the Russians are talking and not to worry perhaps about things like sanctions which the Russians themselves now understand are not going to be lifted anytime soon.
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Jimmy Dore
Well, just to let you know exactly what is happening, US President Trump signed a decree extending some of anti Russia sanctions until March 6, 2026, ahead of his meeting with Ukrainian President Voldemort Zelensky. The decree, which is set to be published in the U.S. federal Register on Friday, extends the 10 year old state of emergency over the situation in Ukraine. The sanctions were first declared on March 6, 2014 under Barack Obama in response to the Black Sea peninsula of Crimea joining Russia. The decree also extends related sanctions imposed by Obama. Trump was about to meet the Ukrainian leader for whom he said has a lot of respect after recently calling him a dictator. He has said his Friday's meeting with the Ukrainian president has in store a potential trillion dollar deal offering the US Easy access to a bonanza of rare earth minerals will be dig, dig, digging, Trump told reporters on the eve of Zelensky's visit. The American taxpayers will now effectively be reimbursed for the money and hundreds of billions of dollars poured into helping Ukraine defend itself. So, you know, we're the masters, the United States are the masters of traumatizing an area to the point where they would give you anything to make it stop. Sort of like a Guantanamo torture tactic. That's kind of what is happening here. This is at odds with the widespread assessment of current and former U.S. officials who say there's little actual evidence of great rare earth and other mineral wealth in Ukraine. They say much of what does exist will be difficult, even impossible to exploit in the eastern war torn part of the country. On February 12, Trump said negotiations to end the Ukraine war will start immediately after holding a lengthy and high productive call with Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin. And here Michael Tracy tweets out, Trump suggests he's going to get the Black Sea coastline back for Ukraine. Presumably this would require Putin agreeing to relinquish territory that he's declared an eternal part of the Russian Federation. Let's listen. Are there areas specifically of Ukraine that you're talking about in giving back, specifically Crimea?
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Unnamed Speaker
Have you gotten to those details yet?
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Well, we. You mean the areas that were taken? There are a lot of areas that were taken. We've talked about it. A lot of the sea lion has been taken and we'll be talking about that. And we're going to see if we can get it back or get a lot of it back for Ukraine, if that's possible. We'll be seeing about that.
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Jimmy Dore
Okay, thank you very much, everybody.
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Unnamed Speaker
Thank you very much.
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Jimmy Dore
So what do you think? Do you think he's going to be able to get back that territory? What is the plan there, you think, Alex?
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Unnamed Speaker
No, no, no. He's not going to be able to get back that territory. I think Russia's been very clear that, that not only, at least in the terms that they've outlined in June of, of this year, Putin outlined these terms, that it's not only about the territory that they currently hold, but they consider the entirety of the, of the region, Zaporozh and Kherson, Lukask and Donetsk, as part of the Russian Federation. That means that any Ukrainian presence that is currently in those regions would have to leave in order to get to a point where Russia's ready to negotiate. So that's Russia's opening bid. That's their minimum for negotiations and for terms. So Trump is not going to be, I mean, I don't see any way that he's going to be able to get the territory back, especially on the Black Sea. I mean, you know, the whole rare earth minerals deal, we've been talking about this in a few videos that we've made, me and Alexander. And then the whole thing seems like smoke and mirrors. I mean, there's no trillion dollar rare earth minerals in Ukraine. Most of the minerals are in the Russian part anyway. About 50%, maybe up to 70% of the rare earth minerals are in the Russian part of, of, of what they hold right now currently. So, you know, this whole trillion dollars in minerals doesn't exist. There is oil and gas in this deal, Jimmy. So the deal, which is about a two page memorandum of understanding, I don't even think you can call it a contract or a deal. It's Pretty much written on a napkin paper. I mean, that's how flimsy this agreement is. And basically, It's Zelensky giving 50% of his country, his country's resources in perpetuity to the United States. But there's nothing really holding this deal together. The money goes in some fund. The United States gets access to oil and gas and ports and minerals and whatever. And that was this big deal that was going to be signed today. And that's what Trump is talking about as he's sitting there with Keir Starmer yesterday, and he's talking about getting this contract and perhaps having some leverage over Russia as they go into negotiations. That's what I think is this is all about.
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Jimmy Dore
And this is on top of Ukraine selling off half of its farmland to blackrock, right?
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Alex
Yeah.
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Jimmy Dore
I mean, they're balkanizing selling of the country.
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Unnamed Speaker
It's the selling of their country. And the deal is. I mean, Alexander, you know, he's. He knows these things better than I do, but I've seen a lot of MOUs and a lot of memorandums of understanding and term papers, term sheets. I mean, this deal is not even that. It's two pages of nothing.
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Jimmy Dore
And. Go ahead, Alexander.
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Alex
No, it describes it exactly. I mean, I have seen deals about minerals extractions and things of that. This isn't even a point of agreement. I mean, it's just. It's something that somebody wrote out very quickly without really exploring the details. They're not even a list of assets that are going to be extracted or developed or anything of that. I think this thing began to acquire, at some level, a kind of symbolic importance. I think Zelensky came along, talked about he's got all of these minerals, which he doesn't really have to the Americans months ago, saying, you know, give me weapons, go on giving me weapons, and I will give you all of these minerals. And somehow or other, through some strange process, we got into a situation where the Americans began to take that seriously and started to demand these mineral rights and all of these other rights. And the thing to get got its own momentum somehow, and it turned into a kind of test of wills between the Trump people and Zelensky that, you know, you've got to sign this thing, and you must sign this thing. If you don't sign this thing, this will be very, very angry with you. So they've now come up with a warm words which is actually completely meaningless because there really isn't anything to trade.
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Jimmy Dore
Well, just to put a button on this, clandestine tweets out there's. A lot to unpack from Zelensky's debacle at the White House today. But my initial takeaway is that Trump just got the optics he needed to go scorched earth on Zelensky. Trump might not help Ukraine at all now and Russia's end of the deal probably just got sweeter. Now Trump can move, can be more lenient with Russia in negotiations and Zelensky has solidified himself as an irrelevant speed bump on the journey to peace. Zelensky just lost his most valuable asset, which was Trump's diplomacy. Now Trump might not give Ukraine anything. It looks bad for Ukraine. Like how much are the Ukraine people going to regret that they didn't sign that peace deal in March of 2022? I mean that that was the time and they had it already worked out and agreed to. And then Zelensky just holded like a house of cards when Boris Johnson went there and said don't sign the peace deal. Now I'm sure he was getting threats from the Nazis in his own country to not do that, but I mean that, that was the best. I mean it's just, it's unbelievably sad actually to see what happened to the Ukrainian people and to Ukraine because someone like Zelensky just went along with the west, isn't it?
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Alex
Absolutely. I mean the April 2022 deal was a very good deal for Ukraine. The person who negotiated it on Zelenskyy's behalf has said so. The Russians made surprising concessions at the time. And I think the mood in Ukraine increasingly is that they must have negotiations. And I think that an awful lot of people in Ukraine, those that know about this deal, you know, one doesn't know how many people do know about it because the media space there is very control. But I think quite a lot of people do they already bitterly regret that that opportunity for peace, resettlement, for a long term settlement with Russia was not, was not taken up. That that agreement in April 2022 committed Russia to supporting Ukraine's EU bit. I mean it went that far.
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Jimmy Dore
No kidding. I didn't, I didn't know that. Which, which was a big part of why we couped their government and in 2014, because we wanted Ukraine to be more aligned with the EU instead of getting a sweeter deal from Putin. That is amazing. I didn't know that. Wow.
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Alex
Absolutely. I mean the Russians said no NATO. You can't be in NATO. You can't have any military alliances. You've got to reduce the size of your armed forces. You're not required to recognize Crimea or the Donbas republics as Russian or as independent as they were then. But, you know, you can have security guarantees to the Western powers. We, too will give you a security guarantee, only they won't cover Crimea and Donbas, where we will continue to be, so not even formal recognition of those territories. And yes, if you want to join the eu, we accept. That's an economic association. It's your sovereign right, and we will back you. That was what the deal said. It was unbelievably favorable to Ukraine, and it was terrible, a disastrous mistake that they walked away.
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Jimmy Dore
And, you know, not to pat myself too hard on the back here, but we. It was an easy call when this war started in 2022, that this is exactly how it was going to end. It was going to end, as we said here, exactly how Russian want. Russia wants it to end. However Russia wants it to end. That's how it's going to end. And that is exactly how it's ending right now. And the losers, the big. And you know, all those people in the United States on Twitter, I don't go on any other social media with their stupid Ukraine flags in their profile bios. And, you know, they're just. They have no idea. The American people have no idea how propagandized they are. They were propagandized to hate Russia in the first place. You were propagandized. They think Putin was a worse thug than American presidents. Even though as we light the whole Middle east on fire and kill millions of people, you know, Putin didn't do that. We did that. And we continue to. We occupied Afghanistan for 20 years. I could go on and on. And it's just. Is the propaganda as bad in Europe as it is in the United States?
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Alex
It's worse. I mean, it really is. It's very, very bad. I mean, in the United States, there is. There is. You will find discordant voices. You'll find them or find people like yourself. You'll find them on social media. There's much more. Europe basically doesn't have its own social media. The only social media that exists in Europe is the American social media. So there isn't the same. There aren't the same platforms for people to speak, limited and difficult as they are. And the media is absolutely monolithic on this. You won't find any kind of diversity or argument about this at all. And of course, the BBC is relentless on this. In Germany, the media is as well. So the. The level of propaganda in Europe is just off the scale. I think it's worse than in America, really.
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Jimmy Dore
Wow.
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Unnamed Speaker
Keep in mind that a lot of the media in Europe, Jimmy, is, is, is or was funded by usaid.
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Jimmy Dore
Yeah. Yeah. So.
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Unnamed Speaker
So things, things might change. Going for. It'll take time, but we might see some changes. But USAID played a big role in, in the media operations in Europe.
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Jimmy Dore
Well, they certainly funded that Vox Media Ukraine, which put out hit piece after hit piece on me, trying to get me to monetize. It worked. They got Jackson Hinkle and some other people. But for whatever reason, I managed to survive that. That was my own tax dollars being paid to propagandize quick, you know, advertising people against my own company. So, yeah, I have, I have a bit of a, I have a bit of a chip on my shoulder about that. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to jimmy door comedy.com clicking on join premium. It's the most affordable premium program in the business and it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support.
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Jimmy Dore
They often say that Trump, the people who vote for Trump are in a cult. I've heard a lot of people say that. People I respect say that. I know I meet a lot of Trump voters when I'm on the road and they're, they're not from. The people I meet are not in a culture. They. In fact, this proves it. I think 71% of Trump voters oppose Medicaid cuts. The H1B1 visa pushback on Trump and Elon also proved that if you're in a cult, you just take whatever your leader says at face value and you go along. That's not what they're doing. So this is 71% of Trump voters opposed Medicaid cuts. And I think we know which economic bracket the other 29% are actually in. The ones who actually support Medicaid cuts actually live in the. Well, at least I would call them 1 percenters. But the economy is doing so good. They're not. It's 29% of them. So most President Trump voters say they oppose any cuts to Medicaid as Republican lawmakers wrestle with how to reach up to 2 trillion in budget cuts through their reconciliation bill, a poll released Monday found. The poll from Hart Research conducted for the nonprofit, which advocates in opposition to cuts for the wealthy, found that 71% of voters who back Trump said cutting Medicaid would be unacceptable. Voters overall were even more opposed to it, 82% saying so. So there's still 18% of the people who don't have a need and understand. Six in 10 Trump voters also said cutting food and nutrition programs unacceptable. So you know how they, we had Steve Bannon on and he said, you know, they got a cut. It's going to be painful. He said that they got to go across the Potomac to the Pentagon. So guess what? They're not doing this budget increases, the Pentagon budget by like 100 and some billion dollars over 10 years. So they're not doing that. So right now, everyone's afraid that the Republicans are going to start cutting Medicaid. There's something like 80 million people in the country on Medicaid. Did you know that there's 330 million people in the country? 80 million of most of those are children, disabled people, elderly, also who are on Medicare also need Medicaid. Isn't that something? Medicaid has increasingly become a hot topic on Capitol Hill as the GOP seeks to advance its budget proposal to pass. The House Rules Committee voted along party lines. When I do Vancouver's, the resolution would direct the House Energy and Commerce Committee. That sounds like the Heck Committee. The heck are they doing? The Heck Committee defined at least $880 billion in budget cuts, raising concerns among Democrats and moderate Republicans that it could mean cuts to Medicaid, which provides health care coverage for more than, I'm sorry, 70 million people, most of them poor, and half of them are children. You want to be the kind of country that doesn't give health care to their kids, to their children. You want to be that kind of country. That's the kind of stuff you thought that, you know, communists did, right? That's what people think. I mean, the committee has jurisdiction over the program. And many lawmakers believe making cuts to it, along with food assistance programs is the only way to reduce spending. I have another way. I have another way. Let me think of it. Oh yeah, it would be cutting the trillion dollar Pentagon budget. That would be it. Maybe, maybe close half of our military bases around the world. What do we need them for? Are we afraid somebody's going to invade us from, from the Philippines or from Germany? You know, we still have, I was in those bases in Germany. They're beautiful. They have hospitals. They have a casino. They have a casino. I know that because the guy I went there with lost all his money. So this is forcing Republicans to take a look at issues that might not have directly affected them before. Once again pushing Republicans to the left. Great work, Democrats, great work. Here's Mike Johnson and here's what he has to say about it.
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Mike Johnson
I challenge you or anybody on your step. Do a word search for Medicaid on the, on the resolution that we passed last night. You will not find it. That is not part of this equation. Okay. We're talking about finding efficiencies in every program but not cutting benefits for people who rightly deserve that. You know, working requirements. Work requirements for Medicaid. That is a, something that is public opinion polls, almost 90%. You don't want able.
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Jimmy Dore
Okay, this is a big talking point. We don't want able bodied, bodied workers.
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Mike Johnson
On a program that is intended, for example, for single mother with two small children who.
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Jimmy Dore
So a lot of people use Medicaid. This is the irony. A lot of people go on Medicaid when they lose their job, when they get fired or laid off. And so they're, then they're, they're, sometimes they're offered cobra. I don't know if you've ever been offered cobra, but it's the biggest bill that you ever had in your life at a time when you don't have any income. So COBRA is basically a useless program. It's just there so they can say they gave something to the people. So people usually go on Medicaid when they're in between jobs. So having a work requirement, you could see how there would be a problem with that. Right, so, okay, so. And are there really able bodied people on Medicare who haven't just been laid.
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Mike Johnson
Off, really just trying to make it. That's what Medicaid is for. Not for 29 year old males sitting on their couches playing video games. We're gonna.
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Jimmy Dore
Hey, by the way, video games are a lot of work work. You can't just walk in there and steal the power crystal. You Got dragons, they're shooting blood beams at you from every angle. You inconsiderate effort.
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Mike Johnson
Find those guys and we're going to send them back to work. That's what everybody supports. That's what the Republicans are for. And by the way, we find dignity in our work. That's going to be good for everybody.
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Jimmy Dore
And that's why we're laying off veterans and everybody else in the, in the federal government anyway. So, yeah, everybody's for work, Everybody's for that. That. But I just explained to you the problem with those kind of work requirements. Here's what Steve Bannon has to say about it.
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Unnamed Speaker
The Budget Committee is trying to get to. I understand they're going to vote it out tonight. Hey, here's all I want to know. How many cuts? And the same with Steve. They're dealing with the fiscal 2026 budget. Fine, show me the trillion dollars in cuts. I don't want a 2 trillion dollar deficit. I want to see it cut in half. How'd you do it?
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Jimmy Dore
What?
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Unnamed Speaker
They're talking about the 1.5 trillion over 10 years. That's $150 billion a year. Now, I realize this may be taken differently, but it's $150 billion. It's not going to work. And to back it up, if you got the, if you got the CR on the 14th, we got to fund the government going forward. Or maybe not.
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Jimmy Dore
But the CR is the continuing resolution. It's what keeps the bud. It's what keeps money flowing through the federal government. That's what he means by a cr.
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Unnamed Speaker
We'll see him shutting down President Trump's government in his first hundred days. It's, how can we possibly have a 2 trillion dollar deficit? Where are the Doge cuts? We need them all. They've had enough time to identify at least the waste, fraud, abuse in these different organizations. It doesn't have to be perfect because they'll go through, though, a lot more refinement, even after approval. We have to know directionally where we are. And it galls me to working off Biden's number. I hope it galls the President. I think when the President's fully briefed and fully informed, it'll gall him. Big league. Think I'll say, what the hell are we doing here with Biden's numbers? It's an interesting question. I think it's generally confusion and mayhem with Capitol Hill. But hey, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe, maybe there's some lines logic here. Maybe they're making some progress on this. But until we See the math, and I mean hundreds of billions of dollars of cuts. Hundreds of billions of dollars of cuts. And stop whining about entitlements. Get into that discretionary spending, get into the Pentagon, get into Medicaid. Medicaid. You got to be careful because a lot of mag is on Medicaid.
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Jimmy Dore
I don't know if you heard what he said under his breath. Medicaid. You got to be careful. You got to be careful. Why? Because there's a lot of Trump voters on Medicaid. A lot of them, in fact, 71% of them are opposed to cutting Medicaid.
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Unnamed Speaker
I'm telling you, if you don't think so, you are dead wrong. Medicaid is going to be a complicated one. Just can't take a meat X to it. Although I would love to.
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Jimmy Dore
Why? He'd love to. Why? Why would he love to. Yeah, I don't think he believes in. Maybe he doesn't believe in government funding health care. Maybe that's. There's a lot of people ideologically opposed to that. I'm not one of those people. I think we should have a single payer system and get rid of the parasites and the vampires called the health insurance company while they're really health parasites because they don't provide a service, they just skim a third of the money you're paying for health care off the top. They just skim it. That's how they make their profits. Then the way they even pad their profits even more is they deny you health care when you need it. When your doctor says you need it, they just say nope, because that money goes right in our pocket. They have a financial incentive to deny you treatment. So now if it's a government paying that, the government worker doesn't have a financial incentive to keep you from getting health care. So we all have to pay for health care. I say we all pay into the same pool. It would cost half as much. You know, the rest of the world pays half as much as we do for health care. We pay 100% more for our health care than the rest of the western world and we have worse results. Okay, so that's Steve Bannon and he's saying you got to take, you got to cut, you got to go to the Pentagon, you got to go to entitlements. Hey, if they can find ways for fraud and abuse. Yeah, let's. You know how you can get rid of the, A lot of the fraud in Medicare is you let Medicare negotiate drug prices. Right now they act. That's how Corrupt our government is Big pharma got the government, the federal government to pass a law making it illegal for Medicare to negotiate drugs prices with big Pharma. That's, that's called fascism. When the corporation and the state merge to conspire against the citizen. That's called fat. That's what that is. So that would be. I. But I don't hear anybody saying that. Why? Because they're bought by big pharma. That's why. That's why you got vaccines mandated. Because they're all bought by. That's why. Because they're all bought by big pharma. So that would be a great. That'd be a real easy way. Right? That's where I would start. And then I, But I would really start at the Pentagon. Isn't it weird that they didn't start at the Pentagon? Isn't that weird? Even though Donald Trump gave lift service to cutting the military budget by 50%. Is anybody even talking about closing one some of our 800 mil? By the way, there's more than 800. That's just the ones they tell you about. So there's probably a thousand military bases around the world. Is anybody talking about cutting those? That's how, you know, the people who scream the loudest about climate change are full of it too. Because the first, first place they should start is it the, the 800 military bases we have around that. The number one emitter of carbon, if you believe in carbon causing climate change, is the US Military. They never do that. That's how I know those people are full of it. So that's where I would go. You want to do. I would start with the negotiating drug prices and then I would go to the Pentagon. If they started at the Pentagon and they cut a couple of hundred billion dollars closed, I don't know a couple of hundred military bases around the world, I think people would be more willing to welcome painful cuts in other places. But if you're not. If they're. This goddamn budget increases the military, it increases the pay. The money we're spending on the mills increases. We don't. Do you know how astronomical the amount of money is that we spend on the military compared to every other country, including China and Russia? Before the Ukraine war, China was spending $60 billion a year. We're spending close to a trillion to defend us from what to, from what? There's no, Nobody's gonna attack us. We have nuclear bombs. No one's gonna attack us. That's just the corruption that's in your government do you understand that? That's how corrupt your government is. And I corrupt a little bit. And it's both parties, Republicans and Democrats, they keep. When Trump was president, they increased the military budget $132 billion while Trump was president the first time. That's not just one year. That's every year. So over 10 years, that's over a trillion dollars. How about we just go back to the 2016 military budget? How about we just do that? Because that would save us over a trillion dollars in 10 years. How about that? This isn't that hard. So it doesn't seem to be that they're serious about cutting the Pentagon military funding. If they were serious about that, I think people would be more willing to take cuts in other places. But where do they go first? They're going after Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security. Is that where they're going first, really? And what are they. What are they doing? So. And how much? I want to know how much, how much money have they actually cut from USAID and the Ned. And where's that money going? Just like when, when Biden pulled us out of Afghanistan, everybody was patting him on the back. I'm like, wait, what's he going to do with that money that we've been spending? Oh, they got another war in the chamber, Ukraine war. That's why they, that's why the deep state allowed Biden to end the war in Afghanistan, because they had another war. They wanted to do even more. That's why. Here's how it went on Fox News when they tried to talk about this.
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Unnamed Speaker
Think is a positive sign for Democrats, though, is there seems to be a bit of coalescing around a message that is resonating. So Hakeem Jeffries gave a press conference today. He had up two signs, and one of them says Elon Musk is making $8 million a day in government contracts. The average Medicaid recipient gets $65 a day. And we know in the new spending bill that Speaker Johnson has put forward and that narrowly passed the House that you're going to. Why are you. This actually matters.
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Jimmy Dore
This was this great new message, and I got bored.
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Unnamed Speaker
You got bored the second I opened my House. It does matter to say that somebody who is running the government in a serious capacity is and supposed to be rooting out waste, fraud and abuse is making $8 million a day, and they want to cut your Medicaid. And you know how serious the threat is because Josh Hawley of all people is saying that he will not allow that spending bill to go through the senate. He says 21% of the people who live in his state are on Medicaid. All right, Greg.
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Jimmy Dore
Okay, all right, that's enough. Whoa, that's enough. Enough of that. Enough of those facts. We don't want to hear that. We don't want to hear the reality. We want to pretend. Come on. Fraud. What makes this country great? Am I wrong? We don't just have fraudsters. We have fraudsters with a high tech, semi robotic army to defend their bullshit. So House Republican leaders are downplaying the potential cuts to Medicaid benefits, saying changes to the program would consist of work requirements and reducing fraud, not changes like lowering the federal match for states that have expanded Medicaid. Look, Medicaid has never been on the chopping block. That's what Mike Johnson says. If you eliminate fraud, waste and abuse in Medicaid, you've got a huge amount of money. Okay, well, how much? What? What? So let's see. Trump vowed not to touch, not to touch Medicaid as part of the cuts, but has included a caveat for finding waste or abuse within the program. Okay, I guess we're gonna see. I guess we're gonna see. Remember, just on February 22, Pam Bondi said that she's gonna reveal Jeffrey Epstein's client list is sitting on my desk to review. That's what she said. That was on February 22, 2025. Just. Just. Just a couple of days ago. By the way, they. They call it a client list. Is it really fair to call it a client list when there's only one client and that client is named Israel? Huh? You mean the blackmail list Epstein had on behalf of his client? His client being Israel? You mean that's on Pam's desk? Is that what you mean? That's. And that's Pam Bondi before she had the special talk, if you know what I'm talking about. And then here we are. February 27th, Jeffrey Epstein, Contact List AG, Pam Bondi releases highly anticipated Department of Justice documents. It was just, it seems like it was just February 27th when all of them stood out front and said they were going to reveal everything to us. But of course, hey, It's Hasbro Class 25. Anyway, breaking. Instead of releasing all the Epstein files to the public at once, the Trump White House selectively handed phase one to a curated group of right wing friendly influencers. Libs of TikTok, Colin Rug, DC Drano Chernovich, and Jack Prosobic. Really? Really. Okay, and here we go. Let's watch this. There they are. Okay, first of all, you're holding up a list of people who have destroyed countless children's lives. That's not where the smile goes when a comedian tells you that you should listen. Hey, look at a terrible idea that the Trump administration should be mocked for relentlessly to hand out redacted files to a couple of. Hand. A handful of. What they should have done was made the Epstein whatever they were releasing, make it available at the Department of Justice website as a PDF so everybody can download it. That's what they should have done. But of course, the. The reason why they're doing well. You want to see what they really. This is a complete clown show. It is. So you want to see what they really let. What they released. This is what they released. Here it is. Oh, that's helpful. This is what they released. That's what they released. This is the. This is what they released it. Didn't the Hardy Boys have some kind of kid detective trick where they would rub lemon juice all over it and the original writing would shine through? Have you thought of trying that?
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Alex
See what time is it?
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Jimmy Dore
Okay, talk time with this new order. That's what they released. Do you see what they released? Nothing. So it's not just follow the money, it's follow the magic marker. So that's what they released. Which is actually less than what was already publicly available. What they handed those right wing influencers was actually less than what's already publicly available. Yeah, I. I'm not so can't make this up. The GOP House Judiciary Committee this. Watch this. Led by Jim Jordan just Rickrolled their voters by posting a link to the alleged Epstein files with the URL that led to. Rick Astley's never going to give you up. They got Rick rolled. You think I'm kidding? Watch this. So if you click on that, where does it redirect to? There it is. Never gonna give you up. Never gonna. The Justice Department released a new batch of Jeffrey Epstein files after eternal Attorney General Pam Bondi said she was reviewing classified documents in the case. But it's not the client list. Again, there's only one client. What? The one client was Israel. And maybe you could say the one client was Jeffrey Epstein and he invited everybody to the parties. They weren't. They didn't pay money. It was free. It was a blackmail session. It was to get Kompromat on them. So the Department of Justice is following through on President Trump's commitment to transparency and lifting the veil of the disgusting actions of Jeffrey epsting and his C.O. inconspirators. Attorney General Pambami. So, no, you're not. And why are we never going to actually find out anything important? Because of Israel. Because it would all. Why? We're never going to see the JFK files. We're never going to see the RFK file. And we're never going to because it all points back to Israel and who controls our government. Apec. The Israel lobby. We. This is only news to children. Wow. Okay, we'll keep going. Many of the documents were already released during Jiz Lane Maxwell's federal criminal trial, which landed her in prison for decades. They include flight logs, an evidence list, a contact book, and a redacted masseuse list believed to refer to Epstein's victims. So they were. This is already out there. Many people named in the documents have never been accused of Epstein related wrongdoing. However, some have, like Maxwell Prince Andrew, who has denied allegations of wrongdoing, and Jean Luc Renell, a French modeling agent, who, like Epstein, died in jail awaiting trial. Oh, chagrin. Darn the luck. Darn the luck. Liz Wheeler, who is. Who was seen leaving the White House, went live on Twitter later in the day. Describe the binder and flip through its content. She said that while people are looking for new information related to the Epstein case, that's not what's in the folder. Yeah, most of the paces that Wheeler showed were on Epstein's address book, which has long been public with addresses redacted. So you're being yanked right now by the Pam Bondi and the Trump administration. You're being yanked. Hey. Epstein files AG Pambandi sends letter to Kash Patel accusing the FBI of withhold holding docs. That's from February 27th of this year. That's just the other day. Wow. What a shameful, embarrassing embarrassment to the Trump administration. I hope someone's getting fired. Can you believe this? Is it an exciting time to be alive when we finally learn something that we've already known for years? Dave Smith says. I'm starting to think that handing the Mossad pedophiles to a bunch of Zionists might not be the best way to get the truth to the public. Yeah, okay. What a mystery. Jeffrey Epstein was an Israeli intelligence asset. The evidence. Epstein. He was a Mossad. No shit. His last name is Epstein. What a mystery. I wonder who the Zionist human trafficker who hangs out with the daughter of a Zionist scumbag works for. Probably Iran. My guest. So here's this guy, Adam. Media did a great. Here's the proof. Former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben Manashi said Epstein ran a Mossad honeypot operation after being recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell. Ghislaine Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, was a Mossad spy. Maxwell's business partner was Charles Bronfman, a co founder of the Mega Group. The Mega Group is an exclusive club of Jewish billionaires funding pro Israeli causes. Maria Farmer, the first victim to report Epstein said his entire network was run by Jewish supremacists who racially abused her and that the operation was led by the Mega Group. One of its co founders, Victoria's Secret owner Les Wexner, gave Epstein his $77 million Manhattan townhouse used as the hub of his blackmail ring. Epstein got his job at Bear Stearns in 1970 through Alan Greenberg, a Mega Group member, despite having no background beyond teaching. Okay, you're starting to catch on. Mega Group member Ronald Lauder is president of the World Jewish Congress and a major donor to Netanyahu's Likud Party. Epstein's lawyer and longtime friend, Alan Dershowitz is a staunch Zionist, author of the Case for Israel, and was even considered to represent Israel and the International Court of Justice. Epstein had multiple meetings with former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak in his New York apartment. Epstein and Barack were business partners in a tech company staffed entirely by ex Israeli intelligence operatives. Barack says he was first introduced to Epstein by ex Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres, who also gave the eulogy at Robert Maxwell's funeral. Wexner's foundation paid Barack $2 million in 2004 with for undisclosed research. The pattern is undeniable. Epstein's blackmail operation was an Israeli intelligence asset backed by powerful Zionist figures with deep ties to the Israeli government. Alan Dershowitz says Jeffrey Epstein did not work for the CIA, Mossad, or any other covert organization. He also claims to have no knowledge of how he made his fortune. I mean, how Epstein made his fortune. You want to see it? There it is.
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Unnamed Speaker
No, he was not a member of any intelligence agencies. I'm quite sure of that. And he was not a hedge fund guy. In fact, once. This is a. You never want to tell humorous stories about Jeffrey Epstein, but he once said to me he wanted to sue a newspaper for defamation. And I said, why? Did they call you a pedophile? He said, no, they called me a hedge fund guy. He was very upset at being called a hedge fund guy. I don't know what his financial business was, but I can be relatively certain he was not an asset for the most.
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Jimmy Dore
How many billionaires do you know? You don't know how they made their billion dollars. Can I just ask why you're so certain about this?
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Alex
Because it does seem to be an.
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Jimmy Dore
Intelligence gathering operation of some kind or.
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Alex
Compromat situation or blackmail situation, something like that.
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Unnamed Speaker
Surely it's possible, but I never saw any evidence of that. He was a guy from Brooklyn. Brooklyn? Coney Island. He was very curious. He wasn't as smart as he thought he was. He didn't know as much about science as he thought he did. But I can tell you that people like Steven Pinker and people like Steven Gould and people like the president of Harvard thought he asked good questions during the seminars that we all attended. Those seminars. I never attended a seminar after I represented him. My relationship did terminate. I continued to take his phone calls after that. Look, I don't know who Jeffrey Epstein is. He was very, very. I didn't even want to meet him initially. Look, I want everything out. I want all the theories out there, all the documents. Let the public decide. There are people who don't want things. They have things to hide. But people like me, who have nothing to hide or not in any way.
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Jimmy Dore
People like me who have nothing to hide. How. How do you say you have something to hide without directly saying you have something to hide? Nor. Anyway, so here we. I played this for you. Here's another Mossad agent talking to Tim Dillon. They had an operation that was based on entrapping, blackmailing, gaining leverage over very powerful politicians. So do you think there was an intelligence connection to all of this? It was absolutely a massage. Do you think I'm wrong about anything I've said? Well, I'm uncomfortable with the intelligent connection.
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Unnamed Speaker
You know why?
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Jimmy Dore
There's a book about Ghislaine's father called Israel Super Spy.
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Alex
Yeah.
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Jimmy Dore
So the father is definitely Shane. Okay, so the father. No, I don't know about the massage thing. You don't know about that? The question is, what is the depth of the connection? Well, it's, it's.
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Alex
There's book.
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Jimmy Dore
There's a book about it. I mean, it's, it. I have a lot of books about a lot of stuff. Well, but, so that is. I, I, I, I can't believe I used a video that has the music on it. But that guy is sh. To say the least. And he comes from mit, right? Didn't he teach at MIT or something? He has an MIT connection which is infiltrated by the CIA. So that guy's an asset. There's no doubt in my mind that that guy's an asset. Allegedly. Allegedly. Okay, so There you go. Everybody was waiting for the big reveal. And you're getting, you're getting less information that was than that was already. If they wanted to reveal it, they would just put it up on the Department of Justice website. That's what, that's how you do it. And they're not going to do it because of Israel, because Israel controls them. There isn't a person in that administration who hasn't bent the knee to Benjamin Netanyahu and sucked his. There isn't a person. Okay? So, wah wah. They're not being transparent like you thought they were gonna. So now we know that all politicians lie, including Pam Bondi, including Donald Trump, J.D. vance. We know they're lying. They're not gonna reveal that stuff. But they say they're gonna reveal something tomorrow. Did you hear that? Is it gonna be the magic marker that you use to black out all that stuff? What? Are you gonna reveal all that stuff anyway? Okay. Sorry. Hey. Become a premium member. Go to jimmy door comedy.com sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. All the voices performed today are by the one and only, the inimitable Mike McRae. He can be found at mikemcrae.com that's it for this week. You be the best you can be and I'll keep being me. Out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Not freak out. I'm not kidding. Do not do that. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
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Elon Musk
I'm not.
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Jimmy Dore
I'm not.
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Alex
I'm not.
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Jimmy Dore
Freak out. Don't freak out. Do not freak out, freak out, freak out, freak out.